Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Can I buy those as a lot ? I will pay $0.10 on the dollar. ? 

:) 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

> From: "Ben Moore" 
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> Cc: "" 
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 11:40:55 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

> Wow! What is that?

> Thanks,
> Ben

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz < pkr...@unwiredltd.com > wrote:

> > So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has
> > really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..
> 

> > 
> 

> > Peter Kranz
> 
> > www.UnwiredLtd.com
> 
> > Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> 
> > Mobile: 510-207-
> 
> > pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> 

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> 
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Re: [AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Jason McKemie]

Burn-in testing?

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Ben Moore  wrote:

> Wow!  What is that?
>
> Thanks,
> Ben
>
> On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz  > wrote:
>
> So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has
> really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..
>
>
>
> 
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
> 
>
>
>
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> 
> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Ben Moore]

Wow!  What is that?

Thanks,
Ben

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:
> 
> So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has 
> really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..
>  
> 
>  
> Peter Kranz
> www.UnwiredLtd.com
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>  
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> ubnt_us...@wispa.org
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Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Brian Webster]

My suggestion would be to just wait it out. Let them build it and lose money. 
Eventually they will realize that they have no idea how to be an ISP, the 
customers will not deal with slow government response times to complaints, and 
the government will hate dealing with title II issues and open internet 
regulations. They will throw their hands up and offer it via bid or something 
else to a private company to manage/own/run. You might be able to pick it up 
for far less than it would have cost you to build. I certainly would not try to 
overbuild them before they get going. The average consumer has already heard 
about their promised prices, you will be fighting that even though they have 
not even started building yet.

 

Do a search for the UC2B project in Illinois, it was a municipal/university 
system built with stimulus funds. They did what they needed to meet grant 
obligations, then they all argued among the partners about who and how they 
would run things and failed at that. They finally let a private company take 
over and expand the system.

 

Thank You,

Brian Webster

www.wirelessmapping.com

www.Broadband-Mapping.com

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Carl Peterson
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:45 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

 


Assuming you didn't have to recoup build costs, I don't see how it would be 
hard to run the network at $50 per sub.  Bandwidth is dirt cheep at scale and 
there isn't much to go wrong with a fiber plant. 


On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray  wrote:

About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that is 
only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from 
town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote 
in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with 
property tax.

 

I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 
years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can 
actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of 
only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, 
though.




 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Where is the funding coming from?

I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over 
built.  

 

From: Christopher Gray   

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

 

Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into 
municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above 
ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 
for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns 
they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service.  

 

Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any 
area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before 
their system is lit?

 

Thanks - Chris

 

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[Ty Featherling]

Crap, how about you include the link, Ty...  Dumbass...

http://forum.netonix.com/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=237

-Ty
 On Jul 6, 2015 8:39 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:

> Check here Josh. If you can't get it worked out I will help further.
>
> -Ty
> On Jul 6, 2015 7:50 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:
>
>> We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our
>> easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our
>> router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around.
>>
>> Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the
>> right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>>
>>> why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them
>>> all back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig?
>>> On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, "Ty Featherling" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the
 VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums
 under the unofficial guide.

 -Ty
 On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs
> (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN
> on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports 
> that
> have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
> The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
> port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just 
> bypassing
> a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
> setup? Any help here would be appreciated.
>
> Josh
>

Re: [AFMUG] CableOne

[Josh Luthman]

In town where the cable is already ran and you just need DOCSIS 3... Why
not?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 6, 2015 9:50 PM, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps.
> So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year...
> then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this
> package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price.
>
> Travis
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CableOne

[Josh Luthman]

In town where the cable is already ran and you just need DOCSIS 3... Why
not?!

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 6, 2015 9:50 PM, "Travis Johnson"  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps.
> So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year...
> then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this
> package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price.
>
> Travis
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] CableOne

[Jason McKemie]

That's "up to" pricing? Will be interesting to see what speeds people are
actually getting once they get loaded down.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:50 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Hey,
>
> So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps.
> So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st year...
> then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of anyone with this
> package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price.
>
> Travis
>
>

[AFMUG] CableOne

[Travis Johnson]

Hey,

So the cable provider in my area just increased their speeds to 100Mbps. 
So now you can get 100Mbps cable internet for $33/month for the 1st 
year... then it goes up to $59/month for year two. I don't know of 
anyone with this package yet, but that's pretty impressive for the price.


Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[Ty Featherling]

Check here Josh. If you can't get it worked out I will help further.

-Ty
On Jul 6, 2015 7:50 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:

> We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our
> easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our
> router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around.
>
> Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the
> right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout  wrote:
>
>> why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all
>> back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig?
>> On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>>
>>> I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the
>>> VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums
>>> under the unofficial guide.
>>>
>>> -Ty
>>> On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:
>>>
 Hi all,

 Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs
 (at all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN
 on our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
 have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
 The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
 port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
 a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
 setup? Any help here would be appreciated.

 Josh

>>>

Re: [AFMUG] PTP800 software issue

[David Milholen]

Easy enough to go to Cambiumnetworks.com/support and setup an account 
and login to get what you need.



On 7/6/2015 6:57 PM, Gilbert Gutierrez wrote:
I have a radio set that I inherited through a company purchase that 
has a software issue (Rel. 800-06-01) that does not allow it to ping 
from outside networks. I was wondering if anyone out there has Rel. 
800-06-02 software (release notes show that it resolves that ICMP 
issue) that they would be willing to share.


This is an annoying issue but not enough of one to buy a new support 
contract so I can download it directly from Cambium's web site. I 
would put an older load on the radio that I had from my other PTP800 
units, but for 2 reasons: 1. I am not sure how the radios handle a 
software downgrade, and 2. (more important reason) My PC with archived 
software releases on it had a hard drive failure without a backup 3 
months ago.


Thank you,
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.


--

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[George Skorup]

When I was at Cambium HQ a month or two ago, Tom pulled out the 
Altair's. Here, this is the size of your PC, but it's wireless!


On 7/6/2015 8:06 PM, Tushar Patel wrote:
I did visit that museum, it is or was good one. Good history on radio, 
two way and how cell phone came about.


Tushar


On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Ken Hohhof > wrote:



Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum.
(Motorola had a museum.  Not sure what happened to it as Motorola 
split into a thousand pieces.)

*From:* George Skorup 
*Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com 
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 
5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 
5.4GHz though. Still really old. You should take pictures.


On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff
So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like
100, 450, etc.?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Sean Heskett"

*To: *javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

0A:00:3E is canopy hardware
On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the
IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address.


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at
the moment.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Mike Hammett" 
*To: *javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to
2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Mike Hammett" 
*To: *"Animal Farm" 
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but
not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1
and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to
169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Tushar Patel]

I did visit that museum, it is or was good one. Good history on radio, two way 
and how cell phone came about.

Tushar


> On Jul 6, 2015, at 7:39 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
> 
> Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum.
> (Motorola had a museum.  Not sure what happened to it as Motorola split into 
> a thousand pieces.)
>  
> From: George Skorup
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>  
> The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 
> and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still 
> really old. You should take pictures.
> 
>> On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:
>> Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff
>>  
>> So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear
>> 
>>> On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>> Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, 
>>> etc.?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>> 
>>> From: "Sean Heskett" 
>>> To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
>>> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>> 
>>> 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware
>>>  
 On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
 Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI 
 list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
 
 
 [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
 Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
   BRIDGE   
 MAC-ADDRESS   ON-INTERFACE 
  AGE 
 L Local
 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local   
  0s  
 L Local
 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3   
  0s  
   Local
 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local   
  0s  
   Local
 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3   
  20s 
   Local
 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3   
  1m6s
 
 
 
 Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: "Mike Hammett" 
 To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
 Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
 
 Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond 
 yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
 
 From: "Mike Hammett" 
 To: "Animal Farm" 
 Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
 Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
 
 Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not 
 responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. 
 These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three 
 radios on atower doing that.
 
 
 
 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com
> 

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[Josh Corson]

We have an abundance of ports ATM, so using a simple VLAN seems to be our
easiest bet, and helps us if we hit over a gig through the APs or BHs. Our
router is the RB1100 as well, so many ports to go around.

Ty, I couldn't find the unofficial guide section, can you point me in the
right direction, taking screenshots would work as well, thanks.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 7:18 PM TJ Trout  wrote:

> why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all
> back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig?
> On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:
>
>> I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the
>> VLAN config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums
>> under the unofficial guide.
>>
>> -Ty
>> On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at
>>> all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on
>>> our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
>>> have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
>>> The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
>>> port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
>>> a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
>>> setup? Any help here would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> Josh
>>>
>>

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Carl Peterson]

Assuming you didn't have to recoup build costs, I don't see how it would be 
hard to run the network at $50 per sub.  Bandwidth is dirt cheep at scale and 
there isn't much to go wrong with a fiber plant. 

> On Jul 6, 2015, at 3:10 PM, Christopher Gray  
> wrote:
> 
> About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that is 
> only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from 
> town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote 
> in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with 
> property tax.
> 
> I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 
> years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can 
> actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service 
> of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining 
> competitive, though.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>> Where is the funding coming from?
>> I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over 
>> built. 
>>  
>> From: Christopher Gray
>> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
>>  
>> Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into 
>> municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above 
>> ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and 
>> $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the 
>> towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any 
>> service. 
>>  
>> Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore 
>> any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold 
>> before their system is lit?
>>  
>> Thanks - Chris
> 

[AFMUG] FS: NIB 50 Powerbeams

[Peter Kranz]

PS. We did reject the shipment, another is on the way..

 

*  So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT
has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..

Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe that's the plan.  Like all the gift cards that are never redeemed.


-Original Message- 
From: George Skorup

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

You know you could just not do licensing. Just sayin.

I was able to find the entitlement ID I was looking for and everything
worked fine on the new portal thingamajig. Moving things in-house is
good. I just want to be able to pop a new entitlement into the portal
when we buy it from a reseller, even if a seat hasn't been activated
yet. I let the emails sit in my inbox and I forget they're there, mostly
because there's 50 new messages on top. :(

On 7/6/2015 6:12 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, 
and have moved this.  As usual, it could have been communicated better, so 
I apologize.


It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble 
finding your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or 
email support (supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted 
out.


(Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not 
forgotten the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.)


Matt

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still 
trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. 
Damnit!


On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Hm, I see what you're talking about.

entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by
support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work
differently.  I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or
not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone.


-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing.
None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to
20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.

And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my
account before any activations take place? That is stupid.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe Cambium will buy them back for the Cambium museum.
(Motorola had a museum.  Not sure what happened to it as Motorola split into a 
thousand pieces.)

From: George Skorup 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 6:42 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 5.7. 03 
and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz though. Still 
really old. You should take pictures.


On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

  Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff 

  So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear

  On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, 
etc.?




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





From: "Sean Heskett" 
To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings


0A:00:3E is canopy hardware

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

  Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI 
list, so it's not a real, hardware address.


  [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
  Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE   
MAC-ADDRESS   ON-INTERFACE  
 AGE 
  L Local
00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local
 0s  
  L Local
00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3
 0s  
Local
00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local
 0s  
Local
0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3
 20s 
Local
0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3
 1m6s



  Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','af@afmug.com');
  Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings


  Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond 
yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com



--

  From: "Mike Hammett" 
  To: "Animal Farm" 
  Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
  Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings


  Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not 
responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These 
are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a 
tower doing that.




  -
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[TJ Trout]

why use as a mid span and waste so many ports when you can trunk them all
back to a single port right? is this because your exceeding 1gig?
On Jul 6, 2015 4:14 PM, "Ty Featherling"  wrote:

> I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN
> config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums
> under the unofficial guide.
>
> -Ty
> On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at
>> all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on
>> our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
>> have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
>> The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
>> port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
>> a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
>> setup? Any help here would be appreciated.
>>
>> Josh
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] [Ubnt_users] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Bruce Robertson]

I would have suggested rejecting the shipment..

On 07/06/2015 05:12 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

I hope you got insurance on it...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Peter Kranz > wrote:


So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say,
UBNT has really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..

*Peter Kranz
*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 
Mobile: 510-207- 
pkr...@unwiredltd.com 


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Re: [AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Josh Luthman]

I hope you got insurance on it...


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:11 PM, Peter Kranz  wrote:

> So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has
> really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Peter Kranz*www.UnwiredLtd.com 
> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
> Mobile: 510-207-
> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>
>
>

[AFMUG] Check out the new powerbeam packaging..

[Peter Kranz]

So I got this shipment of 50 powerbeams today, and I have to say, UBNT has
really been working on their carbon neutral packaging..

 



 

Peter Kranz
www.UnwiredLtd.com  
Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
Mobile: 510-207-
pkr...@unwiredltd.com  

 

[AFMUG] PTP800 software issue

[Gilbert Gutierrez]

I have a radio set that I inherited through a company purchase that has 
a software issue (Rel. 800-06-01) that does not allow it to ping from 
outside networks. I was wondering if anyone out there has Rel. 800-06-02 
software (release notes show that it resolves that ICMP issue) that they 
would be willing to share.


This is an annoying issue but not enough of one to buy a new support 
contract so I can download it directly from Cambium's web site. I would 
put an older load on the radio that I had from my other PTP800 units, 
but for 2 reasons: 1. I am not sure how the radios handle a software 
downgrade, and 2. (more important reason) My PC with archived software 
releases on it had a hard drive failure without a backup 3 months ago.


Thank you,
Gilbert T. Gutierrez, Jr.

Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[George Skorup]

You know you could just not do licensing. Just sayin.

I was able to find the entitlement ID I was looking for and everything 
worked fine on the new portal thingamajig. Moving things in-house is 
good. I just want to be able to pop a new entitlement into the portal 
when we buy it from a reseller, even if a seat hasn't been activated 
yet. I let the emails sit in my inbox and I forget they're there, mostly 
because there's 50 new messages on top. :(


On 7/6/2015 6:12 PM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:

Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, and 
have moved this.  As usual, it could have been communicated better, so I 
apologize.

It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble finding 
your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or email support 
(supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted out.

(Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not forgotten 
the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.)

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still 
trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit!

On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Hm, I see what you're talking about.

entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by
support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work
differently.  I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or
not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone.


-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing.
None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to
20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.

And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my
account before any activations take place? That is stupid.

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[George Skorup]

The earliest FSK stuff I have is 0a-00-3e-f0's and f1's. Those are P9 
5.7. 03 and 04, maybe P8's? Possibly even P7's. Could be 5.2 or 5.4GHz 
though. Still really old. You should take pictures.


On 7/6/2015 3:12 PM, Sean Heskett wrote:

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff

So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett > wrote:


Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like
100, 450, etc.?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Sean Heskett" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

0A:00:3E is canopy hardware

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett > wrote:

Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the
IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address.


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the
moment.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Mike Hammett" >
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to
2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Mike Hammett" >
*To: *"Animal Farm" >
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but
not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and
192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the migration to
169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing that.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[Ty Featherling]

I've done just what you are saying with mine and I can screenshot the VLAN
config for you if you like. Also you can find an example in the forums
under the unofficial guide.

-Ty
On Jul 6, 2015 4:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at
> all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on
> our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
> have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
> The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
> port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
> a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
> setup? Any help here would be appreciated.
>
> Josh
>

Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[Matt Mangriotis]

Sorry about this guys... we were using third party tools for licensing, and 
have moved this.  As usual, it could have been communicated better, so I 
apologize.

It should work nearly exactly the same, and if you're having trouble finding 
your entitlements, send me an email (m...@cambiumnetworks.com) or email support 
(supp...@cambiumnetworks.com) , and we'll get you sorted out.

(Note: we are still working to do keys in a better way... we have not forgotten 
the pain and suffering everyone endures on this front.)

Matt

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm still 
trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations left. Damnit!

On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
> Hm, I see what you're talking about.
>
> entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by 
> support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work 
> differently.  I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or 
> not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: George Skorup
> Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements
>
> OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing.
> None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 
> 20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.
>
> And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my 
> account before any activations take place? That is stupid.
>

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Ken Hohhof]

Who are you buying the AIM plugs from?  I find the price on 32-2298UL varies 
and it pays to shop around.


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:33 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their
personal preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm
just looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson Ends,
(32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both
Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since
I last ordered them.  I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't
really impressed with them.  Are they worth looking at again?  Anything
else to look at?

Nate 

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

[Matt Mangriotis]

No.  This is not in R13.4.

What I meant was that Alignment Tone was completely broken (on PMP 450) in 
R13.3, and it is now fixed (for PMP 450 AP to PMP 450 SM).

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Clarify this Matt…

Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.  
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots 
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).

Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it.  That was 
likely an oversight on our part.  We use that server to allow multiple folks to 
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control, 
collaboration, etc.).  We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the 
finish line this week before the holiday.

Alignment tone is there and working!

Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a 
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product.  Enjoy.

Happy 4th of July to all!

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on 
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.
On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now.   I have not seen any 
major issues with it.

The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.

The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when 
upgraded to build 11.   I have not read the release notes to see if the release 
version addresses that problem.

Mark


On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on 
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.

How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430 
firmware on a 430 (anything)?


bp




On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the 
long weekend!

They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it 
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe 
it messed up the 430 too?

Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a 
separate package.
On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone 
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100 
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past?  I don’t 
remember .zip files with the release notes inside.  Also when I opened the 
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my 
email address etc. with all other reviewers.  WTF?  Did I just hit some hotkey 
accidentally?

Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.  
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3?  To be fixed in 13.4?  Or is my brain 
just not working today.  I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to 
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.

Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.


From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and 
let us know how it goes :P

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[George Skorup]

I don't buy the ESD wire gimmick. Terminate the foil correctly and it 
will work fine.


As much as I hate Primus cable, their shielded ends have been good to 
me. Large enough wire channels for the Best-Tronics/Belden 7919A stuff. 
The Shireen stuff seems to fit well in them too. I think the last 100 we 
ordered were from Baltic. The number on the bag I have is CN1-011-8C5SH. 
Says shielded, 3 prong for solid and stranded.


The guys do still use the UBNT ends for installs. Had enough of those 
where the pins fall out and over crimp so they end up on an angle and 
the mating sucked enough that we got CRC/FCS errors. No more of that on 
towers.


On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly 
identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:


I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their
personal preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends,
and I'm just looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson
Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as
AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone
up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them.  I had some very
early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them.  Are
they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[TJ Trout]

Have you been buried under a rock for 5 years?

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Vlad Sedov  wrote:

>  Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a
> few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun..
>
>
> Vlad
>
>
>
> On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly
> identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal
>> preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just
>> looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL,
>> looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and
>> Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered
>> them.  I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed
>> with them.  Are they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?
>>
>> Nate
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Josh Luthman]

Many years ago, yes.  You're talking about the "green cable".  It was quite
possibly the single most laughable joke of all time.

I've used the carrier cable for ages, it's much better.  I also really like
the boxes for unspooling, too.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:42 PM, Vlad Sedov  wrote:

>  Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a
> few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun..
>
>
> Vlad
>
>
> On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>
> I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly
> identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.
>
>
>  Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:
>
>> I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal
>> preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just
>> looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL,
>> looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and
>> Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered
>> them.  I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed
>> with them.  Are they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?
>>
>> Nate
>>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Vlad Sedov]

Did they fix the UV resistance issue with toughcable? We tried a spool a 
few years back, and the jacket turned into dust pretty quick under the sun..



Vlad


On 7/6/2015 5:36 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly 
identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke > wrote:


I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their
personal preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends,
and I'm just looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson
Ends, (32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as
AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone
up about $0.10/end since I last ordered them.  I had some very
early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed with them.  Are
they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?

Nate

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Christopher Gray]

It may not be the best area to go into... but it is the area I'm already
in. I'm really debating about whether to do further expansion. I suppose I
can just be conservative and only expand where I can get sufficient return
in the 3 year window.

Does anyone have any examples of successful low-cost rural fiber
deployments?


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 5:58 PM, Wireless Admin  wrote:

>   Remember, this is government.  Government is the only thing that can
> fail miserably and still exist.  For them payday still happens on Friday
> even after such a failure.  Retirement with a pension is a given……
>
>
>
> Steve B.
>
>
>  --
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Christopher Gray
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 3:10 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
>
>
>
> About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that
> is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming
> from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and
> will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would
> be paid with property tax.
>
>
>
> I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3
> years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can
> actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base
> service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining
> competitive, though.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
> Where is the funding coming from?
>
> I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over
> built.
>
>
>
> *From:* Christopher Gray 
>
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
>
> *To:* af@afmug.com
>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
>
>
>
> Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into
> municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all
> above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps,
> and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of
> the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing
> any service.
>
>
>
> Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore
> any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold
> before their system is lit?
>
>
>
> Thanks - Chris
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Josh Luthman]

I've used ARC and Ubnt ToughCable RJ45 for a while.  They're nearly
identical.  I've had great luck with both for the last couple of years.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their personal
> preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm just
> looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson Ends, (32-2098UL,
> looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both Sheided and
> Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since I last ordered
> them.  I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't really impressed
> with them.  Are they worth looking at again?  Anything else to look at?
>
> Nate
>

[AFMUG] RJ 45 Ends

[Nate Burke]

I know this might open a can of worms with everyone having their 
personal preference.  I'm running low on my stock of RJ 45 ends, and I'm 
just looking to see what's out there.  I was using Emerson Ends, 
(32-2098UL, looks like they are now branded as AIM-Cambridge) both 
Sheided and Unsheilded, but the price has gone up about $0.10/end since 
I last ordered them.  I had some very early Toughcable ends, but wasn't 
really impressed with them.  Are they worth looking at again?  Anything 
else to look at?


Nate

Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[George Skorup]

I suspect you will be fine if you still have the entitlement ID. I'm 
still trying to find the last one I had that I know has activations 
left. Damnit!


On 7/6/2015 5:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Hm, I see what you're talking about.

entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by 
support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work 
differently.  I don't remember if I still had entitlements left or 
not, I hope not because it seems they would be gone.



-Original Message- From: George Skorup
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing.
None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to
20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.

And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my
account before any activations take place? That is stupid.

Re: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[Ken Hohhof]

Hm, I see what you're talking about.

entitlements.cambiumnetworks.com seems gone, replaced by 
support.cambiumnetworks.com/entitlements which seems to work differently.  I 
don't remember if I still had entitlements left or not, I hope not because 
it seems they would be gone.



-Original Message- 
From: George Skorup

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 5:01 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] cambium entitlements

OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing.
None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to
20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.

And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my
account before any activations take place? That is stupid. 

[AFMUG] cambium entitlements

[George Skorup]

OK, WTF. Where did the old Cambium licensing site go? The poetic thing. 
None of my stuff transferred over. So now I have to go find the 10 to 
20Mb entitlement that had a few activations remaining.


And why the hell can I not just put purchased entitlements into my 
account before any activations take place? That is stupid.

Re: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question

[Gilbert Gutierrez]

Erich,
With the little bit of info you are providing, it is hard to help. You 
spoke of both inbound routes and outbound routes. Which direction are 
you having issues with? Is the client using a Public or Private AS 
number? Do your outbound filters only allow your network to be 
advertised, or do they allow your router to propagate routes from one 
peer to the next? Do your inbound filters filter out routes that include 
your network? What are your filters allowing and blocking? Can you share 
with the group your filters? I am assuming that your BGP peers are 
showing established with the appropriate uptime. I would also ask if you 
contacted your peers and asked them what they are seeing?


Gilbert


On 7/6/2015 6:36 AM, Erich Kaiser wrote:

I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network.

I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into 
a situation like this.


When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything 
works fine.  When we run both peers then there is a route propagation 
issue with some of the upstreams peers.  The routes seem to come and 
go (Some sites have no problem others load sporadically).  This client 
has their own IP Blocks.  We have looked at multiple looking glass 
routers and do not see any issue.


Internal network is OSPF .  Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2.

All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct.  
Anyone else seen an issue like this before?



Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com 
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Wireless Admin]

Remember, this is government.  Government is the only thing that can fail
miserably and still exist.  For them payday still happens on Friday even
after such a failure.  Retirement with a pension is a given..

 

Steve B.

 

  _  

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

 

About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that is
only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from
town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will
vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid
with property tax.

 

I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3
years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can
actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service
of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining
competitive, though.




 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Where is the funding coming from?

I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over
built.  

 

From: Christopher Gray   

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

 

Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into
municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above
ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and
$109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the
towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any
service.  

 

Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore
any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold
before their system is lit?

 

Thanks - Chris

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig

[Jaime Solorza]

Hey wait a minute.   No Kool Kat would like me would allow that,...I'd
knife them ese!

Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   I dunno, you get abducted and probed once, most probably don’t want to
> repeat that too many times...
>
>  *From:* Jaime Solorza 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 3:33 PM
> *To:* Animal Farm 
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig
>
>  While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with
> all kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually.  but on
> side of car it said UFO Investigators,
> Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to
> travel US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator,   Has all
> kinds of equipment including SA and scanner.
> I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope.
> They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado.   Taking
> a week rest and then to Malibu.
> Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!!   I would do that when I
> retire.
>
>
>  Jaime Solorza
> Wireless Systems Architect
> 915-861-1390
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig

[Chuck McCown]

I dunno, you get abducted and probed once, most probably don’t want to repeat 
that too many times...

From: Jaime Solorza 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 3:33 PM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig

While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with all 
kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually.  but on side of 
car it said UFO Investigators, 
Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to travel 
US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator,   Has all kinds of 
equipment including SA and scanner.   
I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope.
They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado.   Taking a 
week rest and then to Malibu.
Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!!   I would do that when I retire.


Jaime Solorza 
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[David]

They all WANT fiber but really dont need it amyways LOL


On 07/06/2015 04:26 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:


Those customers don't need service anyway.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Jul 6, 2015 5:09 PM, "Mike Hammett" > wrote:


Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a
backhaul radio and radioed to the ground to have them swap from
UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link light was flashing when the previous
radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left the site because the
city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to sort it
out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why
radios were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to
close up the site before I tracked down the original problem. For
another day...



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Sean Heskett" mailto:af...@zirkel.us>>
*To: *af@afmug.com 
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff

So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:

Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy
like 100, 450, etc.?



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com


*From: *"Sean Heskett" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

0A:00:3E is canopy hardware

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett
 wrote:

Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in
the IEEE OUI list, so it's not a real, hardware address.


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host
print
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at
the moment.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



*From: *"Mike Hammett" 
*To: *af@afmug.com
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded
to 2.1 or beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com



*From: *"Mike Hammett" 
*To: *"Animal Farm" 
*Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
*Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings

Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up,
but not responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1,
192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer than the
migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a
tower doing that.



-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

Re: [AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[TJ Trout]

You can probably do better and just do a trunk or a lacp trunk so you don't
need to waste ports. I'm a newb also but that seems like a huge waste of
ports on the switch and your router.
On Jul 6, 2015 2:21 PM, "Josh Corson"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at
> all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on
> our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
> have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
> The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
> port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
> a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
> setup? Any help here would be appreciated.
>
> Josh
>

[AFMUG] OT...Cool Gig

[Jaime Solorza]

While filling up at San Felipe gas station,I saw a police style car with
all kinds of antennas with a long ass nameinitials actually.  but on
side of car it said UFO Investigators,
Talked a bit to this guy who is PAID by a rich dude from Albuquerque to
travel US investigating UFO sightings with another investigator,   Has all
kinds of equipment including SA and scanner.
I lost his card somewhere ...maybe in truck...I hope.
They were coming back from a two week investigation in Colorado.   Taking a
week rest and then to Malibu.
Hell...getting paid to investigate UFO's!!!   I would do that when I retire.


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Network diversity is your friend. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 4:26:11 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Those customers don't need service anyway. 
Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 
On Jul 6, 2015 5:09 PM, "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul radio 
and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link 
light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left 
the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to 
sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why radios 
were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to close up the site 
before I tracked down the original problem. For another day... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Sean Heskett" < af...@zirkel.us > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff 


So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear 

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Sean Heskett" < af...@zirkel.us > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


0A:00:3E is canopy hardware 


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so 
it's not a real, hardware address. 


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s 
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s 
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s 
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s 



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 




Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Josh Luthman]

Those customers don't need service anyway.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Jul 6, 2015 5:09 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul
> radio and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE.
> The link light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet
> issue. Left the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back
> today to try to sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site
> figuring out why radios were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City
> came to close up the site before I tracked down the original problem. For
> another day...
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff
>
> So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear
>
> On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450,
>> etc.?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>
>> 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI
>>> list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
>>>
>>>
>>> [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
>>> Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
>>>   BRIDGE
>>> MAC-ADDRESS
>>> ON-INTERFACE
>>> AGE
>>> L Local
>>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 -
>>> Local
>>> 0s
>>> L Local
>>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:72
>>> ether3
>>> 0s
>>>   Local
>>> 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 -
>>> Local
>>> 0s
>>>   Local
>>> 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96
>>> ether3
>>> 20s
>>>   Local
>>> 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A
>>> ether3
>>> 1m6s
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>>
>>> Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or
>>> beyond yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>> --
>>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
>>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>>
>>> Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not
>>> responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
>>> These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three
>>> radios on a tower doing that.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> Mike Hammett
>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] Netonix VLAN

[Josh Corson]

Hi all,

Maybe a dumb question but we have not had much experience with VLANs (at
all) and are reaching out to get some pointers on how to set up a VLAN on
our WS-24 for Mimosa BH's. We planned on using the first four ports that
have 48VH to power backhauls, but do not want them switched necessarily.
The goal is to pair ports (I.e. Port 1 for POE to backhaul and a latter
port like 12 for the LAN to plug up to our router. Basically just bypassing
a power brick and using the Netonix for Poe. Anything special about this
setup? Any help here would be appreciated.

Josh

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Frak, must still have an old Cyclone up there. I swapped out a backhaul radio 
and radioed to the ground to have them swap from UBNT to Cambium PoE. The link 
light was flashing when the previous radio didn't have an Ethernet issue. Left 
the site because the city was there to close it up. Went back today to try to 
sort it out. Spent most of the time I was at the site figuring out why radios 
were plugged into wrong PoEs across the board. City came to close up the site 
before I tracked down the original problem. For another day... 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 3:12:52 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff 


So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear 

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Sean Heskett" < af...@zirkel.us > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


0A:00:3E is canopy hardware 


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so 
it's not a real, hardware address. 


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s 
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s 
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s 
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s 



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 




Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

[Joshua Heide]

Can 13.4 connect to older firmware? Do we need to upgrade sm’s first before an 
AP?

Thanks,

Josh Heide
Network Engineer
Velociter Wireless, Inc.
(209)838-1221 x108

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Tyson Burris @ Internet 
Communications Inc
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 1:21 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Clarify this Matt…

Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?

Tyson Burris, President
Internet Communications Inc.
739 Commerce Dr.
Franklin, IN 46131

317-738-0320 Daytime #
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct #
Online: www.surfici.net

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Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure.

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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.  
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots 
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).

Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it.  That was 
likely an oversight on our part.  We use that server to allow multiple folks to 
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control, 
collaboration, etc.).  We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the 
finish line this week before the holiday.

Alignment tone is there and working!

Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a 
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product.  Enjoy.

Happy 4th of July to all!

Matt

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on 
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.
On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:
We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now.   I have not seen any 
major issues with it.

The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.

The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when 
upgraded to build 11.   I have not read the release notes to see if the release 
version addresses that problem.

Mark


On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince 
mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:

There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on 
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.

How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430 
firmware on a 430 (anything)?


bp




On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the 
long weekend!

They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it 
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe 
it messed up the 430 too?

Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a 
separate package.
On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:
Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone 
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100 
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware.

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof 
mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past?  I don’t 
remember .zip files with the release notes inside.  Also when I opened the 
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my 
email address etc. with all other reviewers.  WTF?  Did I just hit some hotkey 
accidentally?

Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.  
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3?  To be fixed in 13.4?  Or is my brain 
just not working today.  I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to 
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.

Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.


From: Ryan Ray
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and 
let us know how it goes :P

Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

[Tyson Burris @ Internet Communications Inc]

Clarify this Matt…

 

Alignment tone 430 SM to 450 AP now?

 

Tyson Burris, President 
Internet Communications Inc. 
739 Commerce Dr. 
Franklin, IN 46131 
  
317-738-0320 Daytime # 
317-412-1540 Cell/Direct # 
Online: www.surfici.net 

 



What can ICI do for you? 


Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - WiMax - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP 
Security - Fiber - Tower - Infrastructure. 
  
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From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt Mangriotis
Sent: Friday, July 3, 2015 12:02 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

We spent a LOT of time on those George… we nailed many of them cold in 13.4.  
Please let us know if you’re still seeing them (“watchdog reset” can mean lots 
of things, there were a couple of cases that we couldn’t reproduce).

 

Regarding the “Adobe connecting to review server” thing… ignore it.  That was 
likely an oversight on our part.  We use that server to allow multiple folks to 
review and comment on the release notes (you know, for version control, 
collaboration, etc.).  We were rushing a bit to get the documentation over the 
finish line this week before the holiday.

 

Alignment tone is there and working!

 

Let us know if you guys find anything else we should know about, this one was a 
long time coming… but we’re proud of the finished product.  Enjoy.

 

Happy 4th of July to all!

 

Matt

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 9:33 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Hopefully the watchdog resets on 450 APs goes away. That is getting stupid on 
13.2.1. Just had another one about 10 minutes ago.

On 7/2/2015 7:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote:

We have been running 13.4 build 11 for some time now.   I have not seen any 
major issues with it.   

 

The 450 build works fine on the 430 AP’s.

 

The only thing that I know was a problem was P8 FSK radios bricking when 
upgraded to build 11.   I have not read the release notes to see if the release 
version addresses that problem.

 

Mark

 

 

On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:10 PM, Bill Prince mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote:

 

There is an announcement on the 430 page that the 450 load should be used on 
430s needing to connect to a 450 AP.

How is this supposed to be managed? Is there a reason to actually load the 430 
firmware on a 430 (anything)?




bp

 

On 7/2/2015 3:02 PM, George Skorup wrote:

I'm just about to look through the release notes. And then GTFO here for the 
long weekend!

They said the alignment tone issue required a new FPGA build. Guess they got it 
done for 13.4. AFAIK, this was only on the 450, PMP100 wasn't affected. Maybe 
it messed up the 430 too?

Combined firmware? You mean for 430 and 450? I guess so. But FSK is still a 
separate package.

On 7/2/2015 4:53 PM, Ryan Ray wrote:

Definitely different than before. There are mentions of the alignment tone 
being fixed in the release notes but I'm not sure if it's for PMP450 or PMP100 
or what. Now that it's all combined firmware. 

 

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:35 PM, Ken Hohhof mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote:

Is it just me, or was this distributed differently than in the past?  I don’t 
remember .zip files with the release notes inside.  Also when I opened the 
release notes, Adobe Reader wanted to connect to a “review server” and share my 
email address etc. with all other reviewers.  WTF?  Did I just hit some hotkey 
accidentally?

 

Also, I don’t see anything in the release notes about SM alignment tone.  
Didn’t this break from 13.2.1 to 13.3?  To be fixed in 13.4?  Or is my brain 
just not working today.  I thought it was 13.3 and all its progeny were dead to 
me because I can’t live without oxygen, water, and alignment tone.

 

Lots of cool stuff in 13.4, like sector wide SA, but I need my alignment tone.

 

 

From: Ryan Ray   

Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 4:11 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: [AFMUG] Software 13.4

 

Who's gonna be the first guinea pig? Make sure to do a 1000 unit upgrade and 
let us know how it goes :P 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Sean Heskett]

Anything cambium except epmp at the orthagon PTP stuff

So either FSK, 430 & 450 gear

On Monday, July 6, 2015, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450,
> etc.?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett"  >
> *To: *af@afmug.com 
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  > wrote:
>
>> Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI
>> list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
>>
>>
>> [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
>> Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
>>   BRIDGE
>> MAC-ADDRESS
>> ON-INTERFACE
>> AGE
>> L Local
>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 -
>> Local
>> 0s
>> L Local
>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:72
>> ether3
>> 0s
>>   Local
>> 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 -
>> Local
>> 0s
>>   Local
>> 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96
>> ether3
>> 20s
>>   Local
>> 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A
>> ether3
>> 1m6s
>>
>>
>>
>> Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" > >
>> *To: *af@afmug.com 
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>
>> Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond
>> yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" > >
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" > >
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>
>> Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not
>> responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
>> These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three
>> radios on a tower doing that.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Josh Luthman]

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Other-PMP-Solutions/Canopy-SM-Mac-Address-Changes-With-Settings/m-p/31770#M27166

2010 post so probably fsk pmp100


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450,
> etc.?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> 0A:00:3E is canopy hardware
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>
>> Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI
>> list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
>>
>>
>> [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
>> Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
>>   BRIDGE
>> MAC-ADDRESS
>> ON-INTERFACE
>> AGE
>> L Local
>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 -
>> Local
>> 0s
>> L Local
>> 00:0C:42:75:D7:72
>> ether3
>> 0s
>>   Local
>> 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 -
>> Local
>> 0s
>>   Local
>> 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96
>> ether3
>> 20s
>>   Local
>> 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A
>> ether3
>> 1m6s
>>
>>
>>
>> Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>
>> Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond
>> yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
>> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
>> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>>
>> Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not
>> responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
>> These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three
>> radios on a tower doing that.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Like anything Cambium or are you meaning old school Canopy like 100, 450, etc.? 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Sean Heskett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:46:41 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


0A:00:3E is canopy hardware 


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so 
it's not a real, hardware address. 


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s 
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s 
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s 
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s 



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 




Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Yeah, my laptop on Ether1 is, but it's not one of the ones on Ether3 that I'm 
asking about. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:40:45 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


You've got the same Dell! 






Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett < af...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so 
it's not a real, hardware address. 


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s 
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s 
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s 
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s 



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 




Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



From: "Mike Hammett" < af...@ics-il.net > 
To: "Animal Farm" < af@afmug.com > 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Sean Heskett]

0A:00:3E is canopy hardware

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI
> list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
>
>
> [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
> Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
>   BRIDGE
> MAC-ADDRESS
> ON-INTERFACE
> AGE
> L Local
> 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 -
> Local
> 0s
> L Local
> 00:0C:42:75:D7:72
> ether3
> 0s
>   Local
> 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 -
> Local
> 0s
>   Local
> 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96
> ether3
> 20s
>   Local
> 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A
> ether3
> 1m6s
>
>
>
> Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond
> yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not
> responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
> These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three
> radios on a tower doing that.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Jason McKemie]

I wouldn't go into that area unless you can deploy so that you will not be
completely dependent on the locations served by the fiber network (i.e. be
able to serve rural areas as well). As Rory stated, the planned network is
likely not sustainable - but it could put a strain on your customer count
for a while.

-Jason

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 2:10 PM, Christopher Gray  wrote:

> About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that
> is only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming
> from town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and
> will vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would
> be paid with property tax.
>
> I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3
> years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can
> actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base
> service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining
> competitive, though.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>>   Where is the funding coming from?
>> I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get
>> over built.
>>
>>  *From:* Christopher Gray 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
>>
>>  Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into
>> municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all
>> above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps,
>> and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of
>> the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing
>> any service.
>>
>> Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I
>> ignore any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a
>> foothold before their system is lit?
>>
>> Thanks - Chris
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Josh Luthman]

You've got the same Dell!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Mike Hammett  wrote:

> Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI
> list, so it's not a real, hardware address.
>
>
> [admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print
> Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb
>   BRIDGE
> MAC-ADDRESS
> ON-INTERFACE
> AGE
> L Local
> 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 -
> Local
> 0s
> L Local
> 00:0C:42:75:D7:72
> ether3
> 0s
>   Local
> 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 -
> Local
> 0s
>   Local
> 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96
> ether3
> 20s
>   Local
> 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A
> ether3
> 1m6s
>
>
>
> Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond
> yet (2.0) and had the old GUI and IP.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
> --
> *From: *"Mike Hammett" 
> *To: *"Animal Farm" 
> *Sent: *Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] ePMP no pings
>
> Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not
> responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2.
> These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three
> radios on a tower doing that.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions
> http://www.ics-il.com
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Anyone recognize these MACs on ether3? That OUI isn't in the IEEE OUI list, so 
it's not a real, hardware address. 


[admin@Yorkville Grande Reserve] > /interface bridge host print 
Flags: L - local, E - external-fdb 
BRIDGE MAC-ADDRESS ON-INTERFACE AGE 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:70 ether1 - Local 0s 
L Local 00:0C:42:75:D7:72 ether3 0s 
Local 00:26:B9:D6:61:02 ether1 - Local 0s 
Local 0A:00:3E:03:5B:96 ether3 20s 
Local 0A:00:3E:04:6B:5A ether3 1m6s 



Production isn't bridged, just sitting here for testing at the moment. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 2:16:33 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

[AFMUG] For sale: 4x 2400SM

[Josh Luthman]

I have four radios that I just want gone.  Can I get a reasonable offer and
I'll ship them?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Rory Conaway]

They can’t.  That’s the problem.  After it becomes a budget drain for a while, 
it either gets sold, shut down, or the price goes up which costs more 
customers.  Then there is the assumption they can actually build it out for the 
price they claim.  Most of those projects have financial issues with 
contractors and don’t meet the numbers which delay them further.  Go after them.

Rory

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Gray
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:10 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that is 
only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from 
town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will vote 
in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be paid with 
property tax.

I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3 
years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can 
actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base service of 
only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining competitive, 
though.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown 
mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
Where is the funding coming from?
I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over 
built.

From: Christopher Gray
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into 
municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above 
ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 
for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns 
they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service.

Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any 
area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before 
their system is lit?

Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Down to just one. One of them apparently wasn't upgraded to 2.1 or beyond yet 
(2.0) and had the old GUI and IP. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Mike Hammett"  
To: "Animal Farm"  
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:13:14 PM 
Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 


Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Christopher Gray]

About $40M is grant funding from the state for "last mile" services that is
only available to municipalities. The balance of the funding is coming from
town borrowing. My town will receive about $1.2M from the grant and will
vote in September whether to authorize $2.3M of borrowing that would be
paid with property tax.

I'm 95% sure this will go through, and the network would be lit in about 3
years, but I can't get their numbers to work out. I cannot see how they can
actually provide service and maintain their network and offer a base
service of only $50 / month. If that jumps to $100, I could see remaining
competitive, though.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   Where is the funding coming from?
> I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over
> built.
>
>  *From:* Christopher Gray 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?
>
>  Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into
> municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all
> above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps,
> and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of
> the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing
> any service.
>
> Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore
> any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold
> before their system is lit?
>
> Thanks - Chris
>

[AFMUG] WTB: 25 to 50 units of 9000SMC P10

[Paul McCall]

Anybody have a box full of these they want to sell cheap?   9000SMC P10

Reply OFFLIST please.

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

The DHCP server is bound to only the Ether1 interface. These radios are on 
other interfaces. It also happens direct into my laptop. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

- Original Message -

From: "Nate Burke"  
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 1:15:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings 

Do you have a DHCP Server? I've seen them get a DHCP Address instead of 
sticking at the default IP. 



On 7/6/2015 1:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: 



Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Nate Burke]

Do you have a DHCP Server?  I've seen them get a DHCP Address instead of 
sticking at the default IP.



On 7/6/2015 1:13 PM, Mike Hammett wrote:
Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not 
responding to pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. 
These are all newer than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have 
three radios on a tower doing that.




-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com

[AFMUG] ePMP no pings

[Mike Hammett]

Any of you had any issues with Cambium radios coming up, but not responding to 
pings? I tried 169.254.1.1, 192.168.0.1 and 192.168.0.2. These are all newer 
than the migration to 169.254. I seem to have three radios on a tower doing 
that. 




- 
Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 

Re: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Chuck McCown]

Where is the funding coming from?
I would not be comfortable building in an area where I am sure to get over 
built.  

From: Christopher Gray 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 11:56 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into 
municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all above 
ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps, and $109 
for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of the towns 
they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing any service.  

Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore any 
area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold before 
their system is lit?

Thanks - Chris

[AFMUG] Plan to Compete with Municipal Fiber?

[Christopher Gray]

Several of the rural towns in my planned coverage area are looking into
municipal fiber (average density about 10 premises per fiber mile, all
above ground). They're claiming $50 for 25 Mbps service, $79 for 100 Mbps,
and $109 for 1 Gbps. They already have funding authorized in about half of
the towns they are targeting... but they'd be about 3 years from providing
any service.

Is it reasonable or possible to compete with such a thing? Should I ignore
any area that plans to fund this, or might it be worth getting a foothold
before their system is lit?

Thanks - Chris

Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

[Shayne Lebrun]

On Mikrotik, if you put vlan 40, say, on interface 1, 2, 3, 4 and 5, but don’t 
actually bridge any of them together, or trunk them on layer 2, they’ll never 
see each other.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:20 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

 

On a MT? 

AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another port. In 
other words, each VLAN is like a new port.

You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so inclined.




bp

 

On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on multiple 
ports 

 

This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns out I 
need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion vlan 
IDs as well as a billion /30s

 

The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID

 

I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so


 

-- 

If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as 
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

 

Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Technically, you can get away with this... 

However in terms of best practices, it is not advisable 
(in many cases, these vlans are going to get connected to other non-mikrotik 
devices, and as such they may or may not be able to distinguish between them..) 

If you are going to do this, at the very least document the vlan id's to 
include the port #. 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

- Original Message -

> From: "That One Guy /sarcasm" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 12:28:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

> yes MT

> For the most part I couldnt see a time I would want to bridge the ports.

> Just something simple like saying VLAN ID 255 is reserved on the network for
> the router to router OSPF communications. the third octet of the VLAN IDs is
> always 255 so it would keep it uniform for remembering. The 4th octet is our
> site ID, I could use a combination of site IDs to each link, but then you
> run into a monkey trying to figure out which id is first and which is
> second, then they get confused and start clicking things, then it becomes a
> click orgy. next thing you know theyre at the command line with a browser
> window open googling things to type, then I end up with router herpes.

> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Bill Prince < part15...@gmail.com > wrote:

> > On a MT?
> 

> > AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another
> > port.
> > In other words, each VLAN is like a new port.
> 

> > You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so
> > inclined.
> 

> > bp
> 
> > 
> 
> > On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
> 

> > > Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on
> > > multiple
> > > ports
> > 
> 

> > > This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns
> > > out
> > > I
> > > need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion
> > > vlan
> > > IDs as well as a billion /30s
> > 
> 

> > > The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID
> > 
> 

> > > I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so
> > 
> 

> > > --
> > 
> 
> > > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> > > as
> > > part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
> > 
> 

> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
> part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

yes MT

For the most part I couldnt see a time I would want to bridge the ports.

Just something simple like saying VLAN ID 255 is reserved on the network
for the router to router OSPF communications. the third octet of the VLAN
IDs is always 255 so it would keep it uniform for remembering. The 4th
octet is our site ID, I could use a combination of site IDs to each link,
but then you run into a monkey trying to figure out which id is first and
which is second, then they get confused and start clicking things, then it
becomes a click orgy. next thing you know theyre at the command line with a
browser window open googling things to type, then I end up with router
herpes.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

>  On a MT?
>
> AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another
> port. In other words, each VLAN is like a new port.
>
> You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so
> inclined.
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on
> multiple ports
>
>  This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns
> out I need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a
> billion vlan IDs as well as a billion /30s
>
>  The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID
>
>  I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so
>
>  --
>   If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>
>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

[Bill Prince]

On a MT?

AFAIK, the VLANs on one port are not connected to the VLANs on another 
port. In other words, each VLAN is like a new port.


You could then bridge ether1-VLANxyz to ether2-VLANxyz if you were so 
inclined.


bp


On 7/6/2015 9:12 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on 
multiple ports


This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it 
turns out I need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track 
of a billion vlan IDs as well as a billion /30s


The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID

I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so

--
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your 
team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

[AFMUG] reusing vlan IDs

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

Will I break the internet of things of I reuse the same vlan ID on multiple
ports

This is solely for simplified deployment of site routers since it turns out
I need my OSPF subnets on vlans so I dont have to keep track of a billion
vlan IDs as well as a billion /30s

The ports would not be bridged, just share a VLAN ID

I assume this is a big No No, more curious on the impact of doing so

-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question

[Paul Stewart]

iBGP between the routers setup?  That’s the first thing that comes to mind :)

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Erich Kaiser
Sent: Monday, July 6, 2015 9:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com; memb...@wispa.org
Subject: [AFMUG] weird BGP issue question

 

I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network.  

 

I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into a 
situation like this.

 

When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything works fine. 
 When we run both peers then there is a route propagation issue with some of 
the upstreams peers.  The routes seem to come and go (Some sites have no 
problem others load sporadically).  This client has their own IP Blocks.  We 
have looked at multiple looking glass routers and do not see any issue.

 

Internal network is OSPF .  Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2.

 

All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct.  Anyone else 
seen an issue like this before?




 

Erich Kaiser

North Central Tower

er...@northcentraltower.com  

Office: 630-621-4804

Cell: 630-777-9291

  

 

[AFMUG] Tales from the Towers : Chapter 55 Posted

[Rory Conaway]

http://www.muniwireless.com/2015/07/06/which-way-did-he-go-george/

Rory Conaway * Triad Wireless * CEO
4226 S. 37th Street * Phoenix * AZ 85040
602-426-0542
r...@triadwireless.net
www.triadwireless.net

"Nothing can bring you peace but yourself. Nothing can bring you peace but the 
triumph of principles." - Ralph Waldo Emerson

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi controller upgrade

[Bill Prince]

SB 3.2.7...

bp


On 7/6/2015 8:06 AM, Bill Prince wrote:
We're still on 3.27. Many of the upgrades I have tried on unifi have 
been adventures in frustration. Not a big fan.


bp


On 7/5/2015 1:32 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm running the unifi wireless controller v3.2.10 on CentOS 6. So I 
did the config backup in the GUI, selected the "everything" option to 
keep all of the stats. Stopped the controller. I then downloaded the 
Unifi 4.6.6 unix zip release. Started the new controller. Opened the 
GUI and restored the 3.2.10 backup. Restarted the controller. I get 
the login page. Put in my old username and password. It doesn't say 
invalid user or password, just reloads the login page. If I put in 
obviously invalid credentials, it tells me the username or password 
is invalid. So the existing user/pass seems to be validated, but it 
refuses to let me log in. I rolled back to 3.2.10 (just a symlink 
change) and everything works fine. At least v4 didn't attempt to 
upgrade and re-provision the deployed APs.


Anybody else tried this? I really don't want to rebuild everything 
from scratch. What am I missing?

Re: [AFMUG] Unifi controller upgrade

[Bill Prince]

We're still on 3.27. Many of the upgrades I have tried on unifi have 
been adventures in frustration. Not a big fan.


bp


On 7/5/2015 1:32 PM, George Skorup wrote:
I'm running the unifi wireless controller v3.2.10 on CentOS 6. So I 
did the config backup in the GUI, selected the "everything" option to 
keep all of the stats. Stopped the controller. I then downloaded the 
Unifi 4.6.6 unix zip release. Started the new controller. Opened the 
GUI and restored the 3.2.10 backup. Restarted the controller. I get 
the login page. Put in my old username and password. It doesn't say 
invalid user or password, just reloads the login page. If I put in 
obviously invalid credentials, it tells me the username or password is 
invalid. So the existing user/pass seems to be validated, but it 
refuses to let me log in. I rolled back to 3.2.10 (just a symlink 
change) and everything works fine. At least v4 didn't attempt to 
upgrade and re-provision the deployed APs.


Anybody else tried this? I really don't want to rebuild everything 
from scratch. What am I missing?

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Lewis Bergman]

In my case I had a clear view of the plate. I would suggest a 45 degree
angle off to the side maybe 15 to 20 feet away. My issue was I had not
customized the standard setting of the camera to increase the resolution so
you could not make it out. I also learned that it is better to have a
security light and not IR cameras. Everything looks grey in IR so you have
no idea what the car or other important colors like hair, eyes, etc..
Silver looks just like white. All dark colors look black. All median colors
look grey, all light colors look white, etc.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   Problem with license plates at night is that the headlights wipe out
> the video.
> If you have night vision or IR and are lucky enough to get the rear of the
> vehicle you may have a chance.
> Would like a solution to this issue.
>
>  *From:* Lewis Bergman 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:44 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>
>
> I recently had some vandalism at my shop. I reported it and pulled the
> recordings of the several cameras I had in the area. As a result, here is
> what I learned:
> 1. Place a hidden camera in very close proximity to where there is a high
> likelihood of the person staring directly into it from just a few feet
> away. (My camera was 12 feet and set on a lower resolution)
> 2. Place a camera in a location to capture a vehicle license plate. There
> is no magic face recognition software if you don't give them somewhere to
> start.
> 3. Check them regularly. Spider webs blowing in the breeze especially at
> night when the IR is on can trigger motion recordings, eat up space on the
> disk, and make it hard to find the event when required. We had an instance
> where these guys had painted the lens of the camera and then waited a few
> weeks counting on the recording being dropped by then. That would have
> worked had I not noticed it by chance.
>
>  On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, 9:30 AM Jeremy  wrote:
>
>> The DVR should work great.  I use their UniFi video software on a Windows
>> box and it works well, and has a phone app.  I like it a lot better than
>> the video surveillance that I am using at home.  I am planning to switch it
>> all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>>
>>>   Good to know.  I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some
>>> cameras that I have.
>>> I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will
>>> not allow remote access so screw it.
>>>
>>>  *From:* Jeremy 
>>> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>>>
>>>  We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy
>>> with them, for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of
>>> the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and
>>> they really only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has
>>> a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>>
  I know this topic has been discussed here before.



 What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a
 tower?  Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see
 someone approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance
 away with a zoom at the tower box.



 We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time
 that it has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.
 Took batteries, cut power cables, etc.



 Any suggestions would be appreciated.



 Paul



 Paul McCall, Pres.

 PDMNet / Florida Broadband

 658 Old Dixie Highway

 Vero Beach, FL 32962

 772-564-6800 office

 772-473-0352 cell

 www.pdmnet.com

 pa...@pdmnet.net



>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
Lewis Bergman
325-439-0533 Cell

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Chuck McCown]

Problem with license plates at night is that the headlights wipe out the video.
If you have night vision or IR and are lucky enough to get the rear of the 
vehicle you may have a chance.  
Would like a solution to this issue.  

From: Lewis Bergman 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:44 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

I recently had some vandalism at my shop. I reported it and pulled the 
recordings of the several cameras I had in the area. As a result, here is what 
I learned:
1. Place a hidden camera in very close proximity to where there is a high 
likelihood of the person staring directly into it from just a few feet away. 
(My camera was 12 feet and set on a lower resolution)
2. Place a camera in a location to capture a vehicle license plate. There is no 
magic face recognition software if you don't give them somewhere to start.
3. Check them regularly. Spider webs blowing in the breeze especially at night 
when the IR is on can trigger motion recordings, eat up space on the disk, and 
make it hard to find the event when required. We had an instance where these 
guys had painted the lens of the camera and then waited a few weeks counting on 
the recording being dropped by then. That would have worked had I not noticed 
it by chance.



On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, 9:30 AM Jeremy  wrote:

  The DVR should work great.  I use their UniFi video software on a Windows box 
and it works well, and has a phone app.  I like it a lot better than the video 
surveillance that I am using at home.  I am planning to switch it all out for 
UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR.

  On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

Good to know.  I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras 
that I have.  
I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not 
allow remote access so screw it.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with 
them, for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome 
camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really 
only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has a strange 
mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

  I know this topic has been discussed here before.



  What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a 
tower?  Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone 
approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a 
zoom at the tower box. 



  We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that 
it has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  Took 
batteries, cut power cables, etc.



  Any suggestions would be appreciated.



  Paul



  Paul McCall, Pres.

  PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

  658 Old Dixie Highway

  Vero Beach, FL 32962

  772-564-6800 office

  772-473-0352 cell

  www.pdmnet.com

  pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Lewis Bergman]

I recently had some vandalism at my shop. I reported it and pulled the
recordings of the several cameras I had in the area. As a result, here is
what I learned:
1. Place a hidden camera in very close proximity to where there is a high
likelihood of the person staring directly into it from just a few feet
away. (My camera was 12 feet and set on a lower resolution)
2. Place a camera in a location to capture a vehicle license plate. There
is no magic face recognition software if you don't give them somewhere to
start.
3. Check them regularly. Spider webs blowing in the breeze especially at
night when the IR is on can trigger motion recordings, eat up space on the
disk, and make it hard to find the event when required. We had an instance
where these guys had painted the lens of the camera and then waited a few
weeks counting on the recording being dropped by then. That would have
worked had I not noticed it by chance.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015, 9:30 AM Jeremy  wrote:

> The DVR should work great.  I use their UniFi video software on a Windows
> box and it works well, and has a phone app.  I like it a lot better than
> the video surveillance that I am using at home.  I am planning to switch it
> all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:
>
>>   Good to know.  I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some
>> cameras that I have.
>> I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not
>> allow remote access so screw it.
>>
>>  *From:* Jeremy 
>> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>>
>>  We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy
>> with them, for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of
>> the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and
>> they really only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has
>> a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>>
>>>  I know this topic has been discussed here before.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a
>>> tower?  Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see
>>> someone approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance
>>> away with a zoom at the tower box.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time
>>> that it has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.
>>> Took batteries, cut power cables, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>>
>>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>>
>>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>>
>>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>>
>>> 772-564-6800 office
>>>
>>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>>
>>> www.pdmnet.com
>>>
>>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Jeremy]

The DVR should work great.  I use their UniFi video software on a Windows
box and it works well, and has a phone app.  I like it a lot better than
the video surveillance that I am using at home.  I am planning to switch it
all out for UniFi, and use my home server as the NVR.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 8:27 AM, Chuck McCown  wrote:

>   Good to know.  I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some
> cameras that I have.
> I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not
> allow remote access so screw it.
>
>  *From:* Jeremy 
> *Sent:* Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras
>
>  We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy
> with them, for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of
> the dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and
> they really only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has
> a strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.
>
> On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:
>
>>  I know this topic has been discussed here before.
>>
>>
>>
>> What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a
>> tower?  Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see
>> someone approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance
>> away with a zoom at the tower box.
>>
>>
>>
>> We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that
>> it has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  Took
>> batteries, cut power cables, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul
>>
>>
>>
>> Paul McCall, Pres.
>>
>> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>>
>> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>>
>> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>>
>> 772-564-6800 office
>>
>> 772-473-0352 cell
>>
>> www.pdmnet.com
>>
>> pa...@pdmnet.net
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Chuck McCown]

Good to know.  I just ordered the ubnt DVR so I can play with some cameras that 
I have.  
I liked the quality of the grandstream cameras but the DVR still will not allow 
remote access so screw it.  

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Monday, July 06, 2015 8:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with them, 
for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the dome 
camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they really 
only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has a strange 
mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

  I know this topic has been discussed here before.



  What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower?  
Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone 
approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a 
zoom at the tower box. 



  We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it 
has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  Took 
batteries, cut power cables, etc.



  Any suggestions would be appreciated.



  Paul



  Paul McCall, Pres.

  PDMNet / Florida Broadband 

  658 Old Dixie Highway

  Vero Beach, FL 32962

  772-564-6800 office

  772-473-0352 cell

  www.pdmnet.com

  pa...@pdmnet.net

Re: [AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Jeremy]

We have been using the gen2 UniFi cameras and have been really happy with
them, for the price.  I am still waiting for a weatherproof version of the
dome camera though, as the angle of view isn't quite wide enough, and they
really only work for watching the road in.  Plus, the current dome has a
strange mounting systme that really only works indoors for ceiling tiles.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Paul McCall  wrote:

>  I know this topic has been discussed here before.
>
>
>
> What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a
> tower?  Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see
> someone approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance
> away with a zoom at the tower box.
>
>
>
> We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that
> it has happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  Took
> batteries, cut power cables, etc.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
> Paul McCall, Pres.
>
> PDMNet / Florida Broadband
>
> 658 Old Dixie Highway
>
> Vero Beach, FL 32962
>
> 772-564-6800 office
>
> 772-473-0352 cell
>
> www.pdmnet.com
>
> pa...@pdmnet.net
>
>
>

[AFMUG] weird BGP issue question

[Erich Kaiser]

I am working with a client right now on multi-homing their network.

I have done multi-homing several times before and have never run into a
situation like this.

When we run a single Peer (receiving default route only) everything works
fine.  When we run both peers then there is a route propagation issue with
some of the upstreams peers.  The routes seem to come and go (Some sites
have no problem others load sporadically).  This client has their own IP
Blocks.  We have looked at multiple looking glass routers and do not see
any issue.

Internal network is OSPF .  Routers are Mikrotik RB1100AHx2.

All routes are advertising fine, all filters in place are correct.  Anyone
else seen an issue like this before?


Erich Kaiser
North Central Tower
er...@northcentraltower.com
Office: 630-621-4804
Cell: 630-777-9291

[AFMUG] Tower Cameras

[Paul McCall]

I know this topic has been discussed here before.

What is the best and most cost effective camera to use mounted on a tower?  
Wondering if it is on the tower itself, how well it would see someone 
approaching.  I thought about mounting some cameras some distance away with a 
zoom at the tower box.

We had vandalism/theft at a remote tower over the weekend, 2nd time that it has 
happened.  This time in the middle of a Saturday afternoon.  Took batteries, 
cut power cables, etc.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Paul

Paul McCall, Pres.
PDMNet / Florida Broadband
658 Old Dixie Highway
Vero Beach, FL 32962
772-564-6800 office
772-473-0352 cell
www.pdmnet.com
pa...@pdmnet.net