Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Lewis Bergman]

I would love to hear the story behind how you realized the founder had
taken it as far as she could; how you found the person that could take it
farther; and how you convinced the founder that you could take her baby and
do a better job raising it.

I understand you likely don't want to discuss that in a public forum but I
am still curious. Really good job and I wish you the best.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017, 6:37 PM Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> OMG that's awesome!!!
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I read that average family size in Utah is 3.14.
>
>
>
> Nice round number.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 4:08 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
>
>
> Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>
>
>
> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
> has really only been that little time?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
> business to that size in that little time.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:
>
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Chuck McCown]

A move should not take longer to select than it takes to watch.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:23 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

I click through the 500 channel wasteland and most of the time can’t find even 
one thing to watch/record, much less 16.  I think that’s one reason for the 
popularity of streaming, there’s nothing left on broadcast.  Although honestly 
I go through the “new releases” on Netflix and can’t find anything I really 
want to watch either.

 

I had hoped that after the election and inauguration, it would be safe to watch 
the TV news again, but I was misinformed.  They should just change the name 
from “News” to “Donald’s Tweets”.  Seriously, there is no news to report other 
than what the Orange One tweeted today?  I heard Mary Tyler Moore died.  I 
assume DJT must have tweeted about it, or it wouldn’t have made the news.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 5:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

16 tuners, 2 tuners, where do you get all this time?  16 tuners, figure 40 
min/hour of actual content, every hour you're generating 10.6 hours of things 
to watch?

On 1/27/2017 4:54 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

  We must be somewhat pedestrian. I think 2 tuners is more than enough.

   

bp On 1/27/2017 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

We got a couple Android boxes direct from China that have an ATSC tuner 
built in. One went tits up for no apparent reason. And I think the tuner died 
on the other one. Nice concept, but garbage hardware.

But really, one tuner isn't enough, especially for DVRing. I couldn't 
possibly live without the 16 sat tuners in my Hopper3 at home. I love that 
thing.

On 1/27/2017 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

  I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is the 
Tivo.

   

  Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add 
Directv Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.  

   

  From: Eric Muehleisen 

  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM

  To: af@afmug.com 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

   

  Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one 
single box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF remote also 
do IR to control TV volume?

   

  On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

That is what I use and I love it.  

 

From: Craig Schmaderer 

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for 
OTA DVR function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its 
$400 but still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a 
Tivo.  I have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer 
built unit is not for everyone.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. 
Works but there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is 
killing me. Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

  SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that 
was part way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise 
but I was hoping.  

  I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.  

 

   

 

   

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Josh Luthman]

OMG that's awesome!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:19 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I read that average family size in Utah is 3.14.
>
>
>
> Nice round number.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 4:08 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
>
>
> Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>
>
>
> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
> has really only been that little time?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
> business to that size in that little time.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:
>
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Jay Weekley]

We use Employment Screening Services. es2.com

Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / 
she will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a 
background check.


Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the 
background check? Any additional feedback on this process?


Thanks,

Brandon

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Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Bill Prince]

I feel the same way. I scan for stuff ad nausium, and have a hard time 
finding anything at all to watch. That's why we still have Netflix DVD 
service. Tons of good movies if you're willing to open an envelope.


I think Mary passed away in reaction to the orange lipped fuhrer.


bp


On 1/27/2017 3:23 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I click through the 500 channel wasteland and most of the time can’t 
find even one thing to watch/record, much less 16.  I think that’s one 
reason for the popularity of streaming, there’s nothing left on 
broadcast.  Although honestly I go through the “new releases” on 
Netflix and can’t find anything I really want to watch either.


I had hoped that after the election and inauguration, it would be safe 
to watch the TV news again, but I was misinformed. They should just 
change the name from “News” to “Donald’s Tweets”.  Seriously, there is 
no news to report other than what the Orange One tweeted today?  I 
heard Mary Tyler Moore died.  I assume DJT must have tweeted about it, 
or it wouldn’t have made the news.

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Ken Hohhof]

I click through the 500 channel wasteland and most of the time can’t find even 
one thing to watch/record, much less 16.  I think that’s one reason for the 
popularity of streaming, there’s nothing left on broadcast.  Although honestly 
I go through the “new releases” on Netflix and can’t find anything I really 
want to watch either.

 

I had hoped that after the election and inauguration, it would be safe to watch 
the TV news again, but I was misinformed.  They should just change the name 
from “News” to “Donald’s Tweets”.  Seriously, there is no news to report other 
than what the Orange One tweeted today?  I heard Mary Tyler Moore died.  I 
assume DJT must have tweeted about it, or it wouldn’t have made the news.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 5:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

16 tuners, 2 tuners, where do you get all this time?  16 tuners, figure 40 
min/hour of actual content, every hour you're generating 10.6 hours of things 
to watch?

On 1/27/2017 4:54 PM, Bill Prince wrote:

We must be somewhat pedestrian. I think 2 tuners is more than enough.

 

bp

 

On 1/27/2017 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:

We got a couple Android boxes direct from China that have an ATSC tuner built 
in. One went tits up for no apparent reason. And I think the tuner died on the 
other one. Nice concept, but garbage hardware.

But really, one tuner isn't enough, especially for DVRing. I couldn't possibly 
live without the 16 sat tuners in my Hopper3 at home. I love that thing.

On 1/27/2017 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com   wrote:

I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is the Tivo.

 

Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add Directv 
Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.  

 

From: Eric Muehleisen 

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one single 
box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF remote also do IR 
to control TV volume?

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  > 
wrote:

That is what I use and I love it.  

 

From: Craig Schmaderer 

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM

To: af@afmug.com   

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for OTA DVR 
function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its $400 but 
still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I 
have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer built unit 
is not for everyone.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  > 
wrote:

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.  

I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let PlaystationVUE 
expire.  

 

 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

[Dave]

I am working on this for a campus that takes care of abandon and abused 
children. They have house parents who are looking to foster or adopt in 
these house cottages.
 We have Epmp for outdoor infrastructure and Mikrotik for all Indoor 
currently. Capsman is great for this.
We are setting up radius with a portal to allow the parents to disable 
service on a schedule or manually if needed. So far a great challenge 
but I am about to pull what hair I have left out trying to figure out 
these certs and getting the server to pass authentication to Capsman.




On 01/26/2017 05:31 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:


I think the point is that anything that gets changed on a daily basis, 
the customer will have to do themselves.  We’re not going to be the 
homework police for $5/month.  (Also, any 14 year old knows how to 
spoof a MAC address.)


*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
*Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:26 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

Calix can do that and they have an app for your phone so you can 
change those settings on the fly even if you're away from home.


-Sean

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 4:09 PM Ken Hohhof > wrote:


Customer called wanting to be able to call us each day and have us
disable Internet to each kid’s computer until they did their
homework, then call as each one finished their homework and have
us turn it back on.

Seriously?

What happened to sticking your head in the room and yelling “get
off the damn Internet and do your homework”?  Are parents too lazy
now to get up off the sofa and check on the kids?  When I was a
kid, a parent could yell from 50 paces and make you soil your
underwear.



--

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Nate Burke]

16 tuners, 2 tuners, where do you get all this time?  16 tuners, figure 
40 min/hour of actual content, every hour you're generating 10.6 hours 
of things to watch?


On 1/27/2017 4:54 PM, Bill Prince wrote:


We must be somewhat pedestrian. I think 2 tuners is more than enough.


bp


On 1/27/2017 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
We got a couple Android boxes direct from China that have an ATSC 
tuner built in. One went tits up for no apparent reason. And I think 
the tuner died on the other one. Nice concept, but garbage hardware.


But really, one tuner isn't enough, especially for DVRing. I couldn't 
possibly live without the 16 sat tuners in my Hopper3 at home. I love 
that thing.


On 1/27/2017 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is 
the Tivo.
Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add 
Directv Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.

*From:* Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV
Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in 
one single box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo 
RF remote also do IR to control TV volume?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

That is what I use and I love it.
*From:* Craig Schmaderer
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail
 This looks really
promising for OTA DVR function.  4 tuners, and supports
multiroom for tivo mini, I know its $400 but still for free ota,
I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I have
heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer
built unit is not for everyone.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric
Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE
app. Works but there is much to be desired with the interface.
Having no guide is killing me. Also, how are you getting local
content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a
movie that was part way over and it didn’t go back and get
the beginning, no big surprise but I was hoping.

I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons. I
let PlaystationVUE expire.

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Bill Prince]

We must be somewhat pedestrian. I think 2 tuners is more than enough.


bp


On 1/27/2017 2:48 PM, George Skorup wrote:
We got a couple Android boxes direct from China that have an ATSC 
tuner built in. One went tits up for no apparent reason. And I think 
the tuner died on the other one. Nice concept, but garbage hardware.


But really, one tuner isn't enough, especially for DVRing. I couldn't 
possibly live without the 16 sat tuners in my Hopper3 at home. I love 
that thing.


On 1/27/2017 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is 
the Tivo.
Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add 
Directv Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.

*From:* Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV
Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one 
single box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF 
remote also do IR to control TV volume?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

That is what I use and I love it.
*From:* Craig Schmaderer
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail
 This looks really
promising for OTA DVR function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom
for tivo mini, I know its $400 but still for free ota, I don’t
think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I have heard the
ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer built unit
is not for everyone.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric
Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE
app. Works but there is much to be desired with the interface.
Having no guide is killing me. Also, how are you getting local
content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a
movie that was part way over and it didn’t go back and get
the beginning, no big surprise but I was hoping.

I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I
let PlaystationVUE expire.

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[George Skorup]

We got a couple Android boxes direct from China that have an ATSC tuner 
built in. One went tits up for no apparent reason. And I think the tuner 
died on the other one. Nice concept, but garbage hardware.


But really, one tuner isn't enough, especially for DVRing. I couldn't 
possibly live without the 16 sat tuners in my Hopper3 at home. I love 
that thing.


On 1/27/2017 2:40 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is the 
Tivo.
Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add 
Directv Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.

*From:* Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV
Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one 
single box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF 
remote also do IR to control TV volume?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

That is what I use and I love it.
*From:* Craig Schmaderer
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail
 This looks really promising
for OTA DVR function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo
mini, I know its $400 but still for free ota, I don’t think anyone
makes anything better than a Tivo.  I have heard the ChannelMaster
sucks, and putting together a customer built unit is not for everyone.

*From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
*Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app.
Works but there is much to be desired with the interface. Having
no guide is killing me. Also, how are you getting local content?
OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie
that was part way over and it didn’t go back and get the
beginning, no big surprise but I was hoping.

I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I
let PlaystationVUE expire.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Mathew Howard]

Well, 120 was close... just slightly off.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> I read that average family size in Utah is 3.14.
>
>
>
> Nice round number.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 4:08 PM
> *To:* af 
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
>
>
> Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
> That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>
>
>
> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
> has really only been that little time?
>
>
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> Cool.
>
> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
> business to that size in that little time.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:
>
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[chuck]

We like pie.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

I read that average family size in Utah is 3.14.

 

Nice round number.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:08 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

 

Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman  
wrote:

  120 employees is just one family of Utah.

   

  I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago, 
has really only been that little time?




   

  Josh Luthman
  Office: 937-552-2340
  Direct: 937-552-2343
  1100 Wayne St
  Suite 1337
  Troy, OH 45373

   

  On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

Cool.

120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a 
business to that size in that little time.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth 
it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis




   

 

   

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Ken Hohhof]

I read that average family size in Utah is 3.14.

 

Nice round number.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 4:08 PM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

 

Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard  > wrote:

That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:

120 employees is just one family of Utah.

 

I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago, has 
really only been that little time?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340  
Direct: 937-552-2343  
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Cool.

120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a 
business to that size in that little time.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis




 

 

 

 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[chuck]

The original MLM (multi level marriage)

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:04 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

Are you assuming husband + 10 wives + 10 children per wife?  Despite what 
“reality TV” would have you believe, I don’t think that’s a mainstream LDS 
thing.  Blame it on those Nevada renegades.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

 

120 employees is just one family of Utah.

 

I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago, has 
really only been that little time?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

  Cool.

  120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a 
business to that size in that little time.


  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

  We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

  http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

  Travis




 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, but the other three are much smaller...

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:03 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard 
> wrote:
>
>> That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman <
>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>>>
>>> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
>>> has really only been that little time?
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>>
 Cool.

 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
 business to that size in that little time.


 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

 We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth
 it:

 http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

 Travis




>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Josh Luthman]

My payroll company (using a third party) did a background check.  It was
like $50 or $100.  It's stupid to try and save a buck without seeing how
much risk you could be entering.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> Drug test, background check, and driving record check should be standard
> for all employees.
>
> On 1/27/2017 1:31 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / she
> will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a
> background check.
>
> Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the
> background check? Any additional feedback on this process?
>
> �
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
> �
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Ken Hohhof]

Are you assuming husband + 10 wives + 10 children per wife?  Despite what 
“reality TV” would have you believe, I don’t think that’s a mainstream LDS 
thing.  Blame it on those Nevada renegades.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:54 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

 

120 employees is just one family of Utah.

 

I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago, has 
really only been that little time?




 

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Cool.

120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a 
business to that size in that little time.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis




 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Josh Luthman]

Dude there are 4 families in Utah.  This is common knowledge.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:57 PM, Mathew Howard  wrote:

> That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman  > wrote:
>
>> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>>
>> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
>> has really only been that little time?
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>>
>>> Cool.
>>>
>>> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
>>> business to that size in that little time.
>>>
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>>>
>>> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth
>>> it:
>>>
>>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Eric Kuhnke]

If you have commercial vehicle insurance and are not currently doing
pre-employment drug tests and drivers record checks, I think you will find
that the fine print of your insurance contract states that your coverage is
null/void without pre qualification of every driver. Not a thing you want
to discover when somebody crashes a 3/4 ton van and causes $45,000 of
damage plus liability for third parties' medical bills.


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:58 PM, Keefe John  wrote:

> Drug test, background check, and driving record check should be standard
> for all employees.
>
> On 1/27/2017 1:31 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:
>
> We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / she
> will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a
> background check.
>
> Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the
> background check? Any additional feedback on this process?
>
> �
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
> �
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Keefe John]

Drug test, background check, and driving record check should be standard 
for all employees.



On 1/27/2017 1:31 PM, Brandon Yuchasz wrote:


We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / 
she will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a 
background check.


Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the 
background check? Any additional feedback on this process?


Thanks,

Brandon

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Mathew Howard]

That doesn't mean it isn't half the population :P

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 3:54 PM, Josh Luthman 
wrote:

> 120 employees is just one family of Utah.
>
> I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
> has really only been that little time?
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
>> Cool.
>>
>> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
>> business to that size in that little time.
>>
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>>
>> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth
>> it:
>>
>> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>>
>> Travis
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Josh Luthman]

120 employees is just one family of Utah.

I feel like you started talking to EcoFlower way more than 6 months ago,
has really only been that little time?


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 4:29 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Cool.
>
> 120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a
> business to that size in that little time.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
>
> We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:
>
> http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm
>
> Travis
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[chuck]

One of the roku channels says 4k.  No idea what that means.  

From: CBB - Jay Fuller 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 2:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV


Can it do 4ktv?

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] SlingTV
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 2:24 PM

Rokus
Local is OTA on my tivo.  

From: Eric Muehleisen 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

  SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.  
  I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.  

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[CBB - Jay Fuller]

Can it do 4ktv?

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: 
Subject: [AFMUG] SlingTV
Date: Fri, Jan 27, 2017 2:24 PM

Rokus
Local is OTA on my tivo.  




From: Eric 
Muehleisen 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV


What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. 
Works but there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is 
killing me. Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:




SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie 
that was part way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big 
surprise but I was hoping.  
I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Ken Hohhof]

Cool.

120 employees.  Half the population of Utah?  I can't imagine growing a 
business to that size in that little time.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Travis Johnson
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 3:15 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Travis Johnson]

The Shark Tank guys were never in. The actual deal paperwork we got 
wasn't even close to the deal they proposed on the TV show. It's called 
reality TV.


Almost every single deal now comes with royalties, commissions, and no 
real money up front... they just want an option for 5 years to purchase 
at the same equity level. It's actually quite a scam, but we got some 
publicity out of it and have moved on. :)


Travis


On 1/27/2017 2:21 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

So the shark tank guys are totally out?

-Original Message- From: Travis Johnson Sent: Friday, January 
27, 2017 2:15 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower
We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very 
worth it:


http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[chuck]

So the shark tank guys are totally out?

-Original Message- 
From: Travis Johnson 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 2:15 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower 


We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis

[AFMUG] OT: EcoFlower

[Travis Johnson]

We finally got it done... it's taken six months, but will be very worth it:

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2017/01/prweb14018586.htm

Travis

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[chuck]

I think it does.  One of the remotes does volume and I think it is the Tivo.

Yes, they already have Netflix and other apps in the Tivo.  Just add Directv 
Now or Sling and it would be a killer appliance.  

From: Eric Muehleisen 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one single 
box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF remote also do IR 
to control TV volume?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

  That is what I use and I love it.  

  From: Craig Schmaderer 
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

  https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for OTA DVR 
function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its $400 but 
still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I 
have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer built unit 
is not for everyone.



  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
  Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV



  What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?



  On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was 
part way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but 
I was hoping.  

I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.  

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Eric Muehleisen]

Now if that Tivo box could just do Sling or VUE along with OTA in one
single box and interface, I would be all over it. Does that Tivo RF remote
also do IR to control TV volume?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 2:25 PM,  wrote:

> That is what I use and I love it.
>
> *From:* Craig Schmaderer
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV
>
>
> https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for OTA
> DVR function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its
> $400 but still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better
> than a Tivo.  I have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a
> customer built unit is not for everyone.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Muehleisen
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV
>
>
>
> What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works
> but there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is
> killing me. Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:
>
> SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was
> part way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise
> but I was hoping.
>
> I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let
> PlaystationVUE expire.
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[chuck]

That is what I use and I love it.  

From: Craig Schmaderer 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:56 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for OTA DVR 
function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its $400 but 
still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I 
have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer built unit 
is not for everyone.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

 

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

 

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

  SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.  

  I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.  

 

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[chuck]

Rokus
Local is OTA on my tivo.  

From: Eric Muehleisen 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 12:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

  SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.  
  I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let 
PlaystationVUE expire.  

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

background checks are becoming targeted as discriminatory. This is one
issue you should go through a real attorney to ensure whatever you do is
defensible in the future. The "ive been doing it for years" people will
tell you it doesnt matter, thats free advice, and worth ever penny.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:56 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:

> Just one minor piece of advice – see if you can specify what information
> you do and do not want to see.  It’s hard to unsee it once you’ve seen it.
>
>
>
> There’s a lot of data they can easily include like credit score,
> bankruptcies, convictions, etc.  Some of this information may be relevant –
> you may not want an employee with burglary or drug convictions going into
> customer houses unsupervised (or driving your vehicles or handling your
> expensive equipment).  Or you may not want to see some of this
> information.  If they include it in the report, you may have a hard time
> arguing in the future that you didn’t look at it.  I would argue if you’re
> not going to use it in hiring decisions, maybe you don’t want to see it.
> On the other hand, if it would look bad in some future lawsuit trying to
> explain why you hired this guy despite XYZ, then maybe you did want to see
> XYZ.
>
>
>
> Some places go out of their way to hire ex cons, like Felony Franks, home
> of the Misdemeanor Weiner:
>
> https://felonyfranks.com/
>
>
>
> Jon Oliver has done some shows on the difficulties facing released
> prisoners trying to re-enter society and hold a job.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Brandon Yuchasz
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 1:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees
>
>
>
> We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / she
> will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a
> background check.
>
> Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the
> background check? Any additional feedback on this process?
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brandon
>
>
>



-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Ken Hohhof]

U nd moar V.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:51 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

You just need more Valium.


bp


On 1/27/2017 7:34 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text 
> and Instant message, he does it everywhere. It's like nails on a 
> chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really 
> bothers me.

Re: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Ken Hohhof]

Just one minor piece of advice - see if you can specify what information you
do and do not want to see.  It's hard to unsee it once you've seen it.

 

There's a lot of data they can easily include like credit score,
bankruptcies, convictions, etc.  Some of this information may be relevant -
you may not want an employee with burglary or drug convictions going into
customer houses unsupervised (or driving your vehicles or handling your
expensive equipment).  Or you may not want to see some of this information.
If they include it in the report, you may have a hard time arguing in the
future that you didn't look at it.  I would argue if you're not going to use
it in hiring decisions, maybe you don't want to see it.  On the other hand,
if it would look bad in some future lawsuit trying to explain why you hired
this guy despite XYZ, then maybe you did want to see XYZ.

 

Some places go out of their way to hire ex cons, like Felony Franks, home of
the Misdemeanor Weiner:

https://felonyfranks.com/

 

Jon Oliver has done some shows on the difficulties facing released prisoners
trying to re-enter society and hold a job.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Brandon Yuchasz
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:32 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

 

We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / she
will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a
background check. 

Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the background
check? Any additional feedback on this process?

 

Thanks,

Brandon

 

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Craig Schmaderer]

https://www.tivo.com/shop/ota-detail  This looks really promising for OTA DVR 
function.  4 tuners, and supports multiroom for tivo mini, I know its $400 but 
still for free ota, I don’t think anyone makes anything better than a Tivo.  I 
have heard the ChannelMaster sucks, and putting together a customer built unit 
is not for everyone.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Eric Muehleisen
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 1:08 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works but 
there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is killing me. 
Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM, > 
wrote:
SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.
I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let PlaystationVUE 
expire.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Bill Prince]

You just need more Valium.


bp


On 1/27/2017 7:34 AM, Nate Burke wrote:
The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text 
and Instant message, he does it everywhere. It's like nails on a 
chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really 
bothers me.

[AFMUG] background checks for potential employees

[Brandon Yuchasz]

We are looking to hire a new installer. It was recommended since he / she
will be going into customer homes we should require them to pass a
background check. 

Those of you that have done this what service did you use for the background
check? Any additional feedback on this process?

 

Thanks,

Brandon

 

Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101

[Sean Heskett]

SAF integra


On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 5:29 PM Eric Kuhnke  wrote:

> Anyone recently get a great deal for an 18 or 23 GHz (single polarity)
> licensed link? Looking at various options for something full ODU, single
> polarity, 1024QAM.
>
> Would also consider an older tech 256QAM radio set if the pricing is
> amazingly good.
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101

[Eric Kuhnke]

Define low cost...  Something like the 256QAM Lumina, yes, or the Exalt
ExtremeAir G2 some of their resellers were running a promo on. Something
suitable for 250-300Mbps FDD links.

Not used or refurb equipment, just something basic and single polarity that
costs more than an AF11 or B11 (because we need 18 or 23 here, 11 GHz will
be hard to coordinate), and for shorter distances.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 1:12 AM, Stefan Englhardt  wrote:

> I would ask SAF for the older Lumina Series.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Von:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *Im Auftrag von *Gino Villarini
> *Gesendet:* Freitag, 27. Januar 2017 10:08
> *An:* af@afmug.com
> *Betreff:* Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101
>
>
>
> Define low cost
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of "eric.kuh...@gmail.com" <
> eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Date: *Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 8:29 PM
> *To: *"af@afmug.com" 
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101
>
>
>
> Anyone recently get a great deal for an 18 or 23 GHz (single polarity)
> licensed link? Looking at various options for something full ODU, single
> polarity, 1024QAM.
>
> Would also consider an older tech 256QAM radio set if the pricing is
> amazingly good.
>
>
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
>
> President
>
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[That One Guy /sarcasm]

our SAF link are on the same vertical a couplfe feet apart. jesus never
came up to cry about it

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:24 AM, Mathew Howard 
wrote:

> Yeah, the B11 is in MiMo mode, so this is assuming that we'll be able to
> get sufficient frequency separation. I was mostly wanting to know if I need
> to be concerned about the dishes being too close together because of the
> B11 using both sub bands - If I keep the dishes where they currently are,
> there's only about a foot between the two (the new link will be replacing
> an existing 3.65ghz dish). I can probably lower the new dish some if I need
> to, but I'd have to get up the tower and make sure I'm not going to be
> getting too close to any trees if I go lower.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Hardy, Tim  wrote:
>
>> If you are operating the B11 in MiMo mode, you will need to have
>> sufficient frequency separation between the B11 frequencies and the AF11’s
>> since the B11 will be transmitting in the same half band (high/low) that
>> your AF11 will be receiving in at the same location.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
>> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 11:36 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>>
>>
>>
>> I am not an expert.. but I believe that answer is going to be None !
>>
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Faisal Imtiaz
>> Snappy Internet & Telecom
>> 7266 SW 48 Street
>> Miami, FL 33155
>> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>>
>> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
>> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
>> *To: *"af" 
>> *Sent: *Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53:55 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>>
>> I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one
>> 11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX),
>> how much vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two
>> dishes?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team as
part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.

Re: [AFMUG] SlingTV

[Eric Muehleisen]

What device are you using Sling on? I've been using Roku3/VUE app. Works
but there is much to be desired with the interface. Having no guide is
killing me. Also, how are you getting local content? OTA antenna?

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:46 AM,  wrote:

> SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was
> part way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise
> but I was hoping.
> I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let
> PlaystationVUE expire.
>

[AFMUG] Connecting an RV park

[Ray Savich]

Many folks are connecting RV Parks. What is the best advice that you can give 
to a service provider looking to connect an RV park for the first time? 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Enterprise-E500-E400-Hotspot/Connecting-an-RV-Park/m-p/67789#U67789


Join the Conversation
Cambium Networks Community Forum

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Ben Royer]

But... All your base are belong to us, haxor l33t?

My only issue is when I have to spend time deciphering what you meant.  I'm 
ok with the U's, I'm not ok with the sentences condensed down to text speak, 
and I never got the memo... 'IYKWIM'? What? hold on, let me get out my 
text-speak dictionary oh, 3 minutes later, I do know what you mean, good 
point, why didn't you just type that.


Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net


-Original Message- 
From: Nate Burke

Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:34 AM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and
Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard
whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really
bothers me. 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jaime Solorza]

Fastest way to say  F U!!!

On Jan 27, 2017 9:00 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of typing
> on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a keyboard I
> just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English words.
>
> On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:
>
>> ROFL
>>
>> Ken Hohhof wrote:
>>
>>> U shouldn't be so sensitive.
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
>>> To: Animal Farm 
>>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
>>>
>>> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and
>>> Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard
>>> whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really
>>> bothers me.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
>>> No virus found in this message.
>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>>> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date:
>>> 01/27/17
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

[Ben Royer]

I’ve looked around a bit does this one count?



Thank you,
Ben Royer, Operations Manager
Royell Communications, Inc.
217-965-3699 www.royell.net

From: Ray Savich 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:06 AM
To: mailto:af@afmug.com 
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

This week’s Friday Fun topic is screen shots of your system uptime. 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Friday-Fun/bd-p/Friday_Fun 

 

Ray

 

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum

 

[AFMUG] FS: Miscellaneous

[Jason McKemie]

Just cleaned out the office, and I have the following available:

9x Cyclone Rotopol 5700 (unused)
7x Motorola 600ss (unused)
4x Motorola 2400sm (used, believed to be working)
1x Motorola 5700sm (used, believed to be working)
2x WBH 2.4GHz stinger (unused)
1x WBH 5.7GHz 450 stinger (unused)
1x WBH RCL-1 (unused)
2x Motorola 5GHz Lens (1 used, 1 unused)
2x Ubiquiti Rocket M5 (unused)
1x Ubiquiti AM 5G19 Sector (used)
1x Cambium 320 Sector (Laird I believe, I do not think it has been deployed
- Model number is 85010107001 - 3.3-3.8GHz, 65Deg, 17dBi)
1x Cisco 2611XM w/2x WIC 1DSU T1
1x Cisco Expansion Card w/2x WIC 1DSU T1 and 2x Ethernet
1x Mikrotik CRS212-1G-10S-1S+ IN (used for a few months in climate
controlled enclosure)
2x Occam 2342 ONT (unused)

Make an offer.

Thanks.

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

[chuck]

Or call a friend and brag about it.

From: Ken Hohhof 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:29 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

Seek immediate medical attention for uptimes exceeding 4 hours.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:07 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

 

This week’s Friday Fun topic is screen shots of your system uptime. 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Friday-Fun/bd-p/Friday_Fun 

 

Ray

 

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum

 

Re: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

[Ken Hohhof]

Seek immediate medical attention for uptimes exceeding 4 hours.

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ray Savich
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:07 AM
To: 'af@afmug.com' 
Subject: [AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

 

This week's Friday Fun topic is screen shots of your system uptime.
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Friday-Fun/bd-p/Friday_Fun 

 

Ray

 

 

Join the Conversation

Cambium Networks Community Forum  

 

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Mathew Howard]

Yeah, the B11 is in MiMo mode, so this is assuming that we'll be able to
get sufficient frequency separation. I was mostly wanting to know if I need
to be concerned about the dishes being too close together because of the
B11 using both sub bands - If I keep the dishes where they currently are,
there's only about a foot between the two (the new link will be replacing
an existing 3.65ghz dish). I can probably lower the new dish some if I need
to, but I'd have to get up the tower and make sure I'm not going to be
getting too close to any trees if I go lower.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:45 AM, Hardy, Tim  wrote:

> If you are operating the B11 in MiMo mode, you will need to have
> sufficient frequency separation between the B11 frequencies and the AF11’s
> since the B11 will be transmitting in the same half band (high/low) that
> your AF11 will be receiving in at the same location.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Faisal Imtiaz
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 11:36 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>
>
>
> I am not an expert.. but I believe that answer is going to be None !
>
>
>
> Regards
>
>
>
> Faisal Imtiaz
> Snappy Internet & Telecom
> 7266 SW 48 Street
> Miami, FL 33155
> Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 <(305)%20663-5518>
>
> Help-desk: (305)663-5518 <(305)%20663-5518> Option 2 or Email:
> supp...@snappytelecom.net
>
>
> --
>
> *From: *"Mathew Howard" 
> *To: *"af" 
> *Sent: *Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53:55 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>
> I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one
> 11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX),
> how much vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two
> dishes?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[chuck]

OK, multiply my previous answer by the cosine of the angular difference.  

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:16 AM
To: af 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

ha... they're roughly 45 degrees off, I bet I could get it down to about half 
of the dish diameter! :P



On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

  Ah, but not if they're on different azimuths. Vertical separation could 
approach zero then.


  -- Original Message --
  From: ch...@wbmfg.com
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: 1/27/2017 12:04:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

Dish centerline to dish centerline has to be at least one dish diameter 
apart (ducking)

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:53 AM
To: af 
Subject: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one 
11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX), how 
much vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Mathew Howard]

ha... they're roughly 45 degrees off, I bet I could get it down to about
half of the dish diameter! :P


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 11:07 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:

> Ah, but not if they're on different azimuths. Vertical separation could
> approach zero then.
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: ch...@wbmfg.com
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 1/27/2017 12:04:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>
> Dish centerline to dish centerline has to be at least one dish diameter
> apart (ducking)
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard
> *Sent:* Friday, January 27, 2017 8:53 AM
> *To:* af
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
>
> I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one
> 11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX),
> how much vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two
> dishes?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[chuck]

Dish centerline to dish centerline has to be at least one dish diameter 
apart (ducking)

From: Mathew Howard 
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:53 AM
To: af 
Subject: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one 11ghz 
link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX), how much 
vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Adam Moffett]

Ah, but not if they're on different azimuths. Vertical separation could 
approach zero then.



-- Original Message --
From: ch...@wbmfg.com
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: 1/27/2017 12:04:16 PM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

Dish centerline to dish centerline has to be at least one dish diameter 
apart (ducking)


From:Mathew Howard
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 8:53 AM
To:af
Subject: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have 
one 11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an 
AF-11FX), how much vertical separation am I going to want to have 
between the two dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Josh Luthman]

I'm so very disappointed you didn't do the Valentine's episode.  Letters
like u and r can mean words like you and are!!!


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Nate Burke  wrote:

> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and
> Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard
> whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really
> bothers me.
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Travis Johnson]

My 18 year old son can type crazy fast on his iPhone with two fingers... 
but he is crazy slow on a regular keyboard. LOL


Compare that with my 24 and 22 year old daughters, who are both crazy 
fast on a regular keyboard AND crazy fast on their iPhones. I can still 
beat them on a keyboard (just barely), but it's fun when we race. :)


Travis


On 1/27/2017 9:14 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
I thought so too until I saw a kid in the office hunt and peck with 2 
fingers on each hand.  LOL must be easier for him than "That sure was 
funny." I don't know why typing wasn't mandatory in his school 
(frickin Harvard!).  At some point this kid hunt-and-pecked his way 
through a master's thesis.


(You know who you are.  If you read this email just know that I still 
value your hard work even as you type it wrongly.)



-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" >
To: "af" >
Sent: 1/27/2017 11:00:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of 
typing on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a 
keyboard I just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English 
words.


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley 
> wrote:


ROFL

Ken Hohhof wrote:

U shouldn't be so sensitive.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com
] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Animal Farm >
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you',
Email, text and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's
like nails on a chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that
language is evolving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
 but this one
just really bothers me.




-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release
Date: 01/27/17

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Ken Hohhof]

Maybe assume he is abbreviating "Usted" which is the more polite or honorific 
form of "you" in Spanish.

In which case, you deserve at least a 20% raise.  Or he could go back to "you" 
which is short for "hey, you" and keep your pay the same.  It's up to him, but 
if you're an Usted, you  deserve to be paid accordingly.  It's a small price 
for all the typing he's avoiding, not to mention the prestige of having an 
Usted on the payroll.


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:34 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

Ju gt issues with Tat ?

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:34:53 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text 
> and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a 
> chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really 
> bothers me.

[AFMUG] SlingTV

[chuck]

SlingTV added DVR.  Still figuring it out.  I recorded a movie that was part 
way over and it didn’t go back and get the beginning, no big surprise but I was 
hoping.  
I still like DirecTV now better for a variety of reasons.  I let PlaystationVUE 
expire.  

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Hardy, Tim]

If you are operating the B11 in MiMo mode, you will need to have sufficient 
frequency separation between the B11 frequencies and the AF11’s since the B11 
will be transmitting in the same half band (high/low) that your AF11 will be 
receiving in at the same location.

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Faisal Imtiaz
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 11:36 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

I am not an expert.. but I believe that answer is going to be None !

Regards

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: 
supp...@snappytelecom.net


From: "Mathew Howard" >
To: "af" >
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53:55 AM
Subject: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation
I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one 11ghz 
link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX), how much 
vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jesse DuPont]

  
  
Okay, show of hands, how many of you also have high blood pressure..


  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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On 1/27/17 8:34 AM, Nate Burke wrote:

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of
  'you', Email, text and Instant message, he does it everywhere. 
  It's like nails on a chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that
  language is evolving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
  but this one just really bothers me.
  


  

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Ken Hohhof]

We do get useful new phrases from places like the Twitterverse.

Thanks to Lindsey Graham for "Mucho sad".


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Larry Smith
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:24 AM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

Back in the days of morse code and other limited bandwidth mediums 
abbreviations were an important and useful tool.

In todays environment, where my iphone prompts with the complete (correct 
mostly) word, they (such abbreviations) are mostly just plain laziness.  People 
no longer know how to write, much less spell and sometimes even speak correctly.

--
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Fri January 27 2017 10:14, Adam Moffett wrote:
> I thought so too until I saw a kid in the office hunt and peck with 2 
> fingers on each hand.  LOL must be easier for him than "That sure was 
> funny."  I don't know why typing wasn't mandatory in his school 
> (frickin Harvard!).  At some point this kid hunt-and-pecked his way 
> through a master's thesis.
>
> (You know who you are.  If you read this email just know that I still 
> value your hard work even as you type it wrongly.)
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mathew Howard" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: 1/27/2017 11:00:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
>
> >I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of 
> >typing on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a 
> >keyboard I just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English 
> >words.
> >
> >On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley
> >
> > wrote:
> >>ROFL
> >>
> >>Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>>U shouldn't be so sensitive.
> >>>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> >>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
> >>>To: Animal Farm 
> >>>Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
> >>>
> >>>The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, 
> >>>text and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails 
> >>>on a chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is 
> >>>evolving https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
> >>> but this one just 
> >>>really bothers me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-
> >>>No virus found in this message.
> >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>>Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date:
> >>>01/27/17

Re: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Faisal Imtiaz]

I am not an expert.. but I believe that answer is going to be None ! 

Regards 

Faisal Imtiaz 
Snappy Internet & Telecom 
7266 SW 48 Street 
Miami, FL 33155 
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net 

> From: "Mathew Howard" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:53:55 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

> I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one 11ghz
> link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX), how much
> vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Faisal Imtiaz]

Ju gt issues with Tat ?

Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

- Original Message -
> From: "Nate Burke" 
> To: "Animal Farm" 
> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 10:34:53 AM
> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and
> Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard
> whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really
> bothers me.

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Larry Smith]

Back in the days of morse code and other limited bandwidth
mediums abbreviations were an important and useful tool.

In todays environment, where my iphone prompts with the 
complete (correct mostly) word, they (such abbreviations)
are mostly just plain laziness.  People no longer know how
to write, much less spell and sometimes even speak correctly.

-- 
Larry Smith
lesm...@ecsis.net

On Fri January 27 2017 10:14, Adam Moffett wrote:
> I thought so too until I saw a kid in the office hunt and peck with 2
> fingers on each hand.  LOL must be easier for him than "That sure was
> funny."  I don't know why typing wasn't mandatory in his school (frickin
> Harvard!).  At some point this kid hunt-and-pecked his way through a
> master's thesis.
>
> (You know who you are.  If you read this email just know that I still
> value your hard work even as you type it wrongly.)
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mathew Howard" 
> To: "af" 
> Sent: 1/27/2017 11:00:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
>
> >I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of
> >typing on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a
> >keyboard I just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English
> >words.
> >
> >On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley
> >
> > wrote:
> >>ROFL
> >>
> >>Ken Hohhof wrote:
> >>>U shouldn't be so sensitive.
> >>>
> >>>-Original Message-
> >>>From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
> >>>Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
> >>>To: Animal Farm 
> >>>Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
> >>>
> >>>The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text
> >>>and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a
> >>>chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
> >>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY
> >>> but this one just
> >>>really bothers me.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>-
> >>>No virus found in this message.
> >>>Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
> >>>Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date:
> >>>01/27/17

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Adam Moffett]

I thought so too until I saw a kid in the office hunt and peck with 2 
fingers on each hand.  LOL must be easier for him than "That sure was 
funny."  I don't know why typing wasn't mandatory in his school (frickin 
Harvard!).  At some point this kid hunt-and-pecked his way through a 
master's thesis.


(You know who you are.  If you read this email just know that I still 
value your hard work even as you type it wrongly.)



-- Original Message --
From: "Mathew Howard" 
To: "af" 
Sent: 1/27/2017 11:00:16 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of 
typing on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a 
keyboard I just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English 
words.


On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley 
 wrote:

ROFL

Ken Hohhof wrote:

U shouldn't be so sensitive.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text 
and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a 
chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY 
 but this one just 
really bothers me.





-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date: 
01/27/17

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Mathew Howard]

I think it's perfectly normal to be bothered by it. In the days of typing
on flip phones, it was understandable... but when I'm using a keyboard I
just don't see how it's easier than typing actual English words.

On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 9:46 AM, Jay Weekley 
wrote:

> ROFL
>
> Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
>> U shouldn't be so sensitive.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
>> Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
>> To: Animal Farm 
>> Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?
>>
>> The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and
>> Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard
>> whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really
>> bothers me.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> No virus found in this message.
>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date: 01/27/17
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] 11ghz vertical separation

[Mathew Howard]

I'm planning on adding an 11ghz link to a tower that we already have one
11ghz link on (existing link is B11, current plan is to add an AF-11FX),
how much vertical separation am I going to want to have between the two
dishes?

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jay Weekley]

ROFL

Ken Hohhof wrote:

U shouldn't be so sensitive.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and 
Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard 
whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really bothers me.




-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date: 01/27/17

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Ken Hohhof]

U shouldn't be so sensitive.

-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Nate Burke
Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:35 AM
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and 
Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard 
whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really bothers me.

Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

[Ken Hohhof]

I’m with you, but this is the way the world is going.  Things and devices.  No 
com-poo-ters.

 

People even complain about needing a router.  They don’t even want a wire, I 
thought this was wireless!  A lot of my customers think “WiFi” means 
“Internet”, and a “satellite” is that grey thing on their roof.  Robots and the 
Internet are making us stupid.  In a few years, the average IQ will be around 
20.  The movie Idiocracy was a documentary, except that the future was only 10 
years away not 500.  Welcome to Costco, I love you.

 

 

From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Darin Steffl
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 10:22 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

 

I understand there's many more mobile devices but I don't understand how a 
household doesn't at least have one computer. A cheap $200 chromebook even 
would make life so much easier.

 

Sometimes you just need a keyboard and larger screen instead of a tablet or 
smartphone. I love having a laptop and prefer it if I'm going to be on my phone 
for more than 5 or 10 minutes.

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM Ken Hohhof  > wrote:

Since I was asking for the impossible (a computer for troubleshooting), she put 
it off until Saturday when her parents will be visiting with one of those rare 
pieces of equipment.  Where we go next, who knows?


-Original Message-
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] On Behalf 
Of Jay Weekley
Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2017 7:30 PM
To: af@afmug.com  
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness

What did you do with the customer with the TPlink that could stream netflix but 
not surf?

Ken Hohhof wrote:
>
> Customer has a leased Mikrotik.  I don’t think they will be able to
> handle managing a Mikrotik, and I don’t want us making changes
> multiple times each day so their kids do their homework.  I told
> customer to shop for a router that can do what they want, and we would
> take back the leased router.
>
> I still think sticking their head in the room has some value.
>
> *From:*Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com  ] *On 
> Behalf Of *Jason Wilson
> *Sent:* Thursday, January 26, 2017 5:32 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com  
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] managed router craziness
>
> Look at router limits. They have a few options to do exactly what you
> are looking for.
>
> J
>
> On Jan 26, 2017 3:10 PM, "Ken Hohhof"   
>  >> wrote:
>
> Customer called wanting to be able to call us each day and have us
> disable Internet to each kid’s computer until they did their
> homework, then call as each one finished their homework and have
> us turn it back on.
>
> Seriously?
>
> What happened to sticking your head in the room and yelling “get
> off the damn Internet and do your homework”?  Are parents too lazy
> now to get up off the sofa and check on the kids?  When I was a
> kid, a parent could yell from 50 paces and make you soil your
> underwear.
>
> No virus found in this message.
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com   
> 
> Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13840 - Release Date:
> 01/26/17
>




-- 

Darin Steffl

Minnesota WiFi

www.mnwifi.com  

507-634-WiFi

   Like us on Facebook 
 

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Jay Weekley]

You're old like me.  I can almost understand some abbreviation in text 
but when I see things like ur in emails or other more formal 
communications I cringe as well.   Even worse for me is when people 
actually verbally say things like LOL or that just TMI.


Nate Burke wrote:
The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text 
and Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a 
chalkboard whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really 
bothers me.



-
No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2016.0.7998 / Virus Database: 4749/13848 - Release Date: 
01/27/17

[AFMUG] OT: Why does txt spk bother me so?

[Nate Burke]

The boss has gone to always typing 'u' instead of 'you', Email, text and 
Instant message, he does it everywhere.  It's like nails on a chalkboard 
whenever I see it.  I realize that language is evolving 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPV64Y2JfZY but this one just really 
bothers me.

[AFMUG] PMP 450m Performance Data

[Ray Savich]

Check out the description of PMP 450m data analysis showing spatial 
multiplexing gain details 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-Stories/Analysis-of-PMP450m-traffic-showing-spatial-multiplexing-gain/m-p/67462

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[AFMUG] OT Funny

[Travis Johnson]

Travis

[AFMUG] Friday Fun - show me your uptime

[Ray Savich]

This week's Friday Fun topic is screen shots of your system uptime. 
http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/Friday-Fun/bd-p/Friday_Fun

Ray


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Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101

[Stefan Englhardt]

I would ask SAF for the older Lumina Series.





Von: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] Im Auftrag von Gino Villarini
Gesendet: Freitag, 27. Januar 2017 10:08
An: af@afmug.com
Betreff: Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101



Define low cost



From: Af  > on behalf of 
"eric.kuh...@gmail.com  "  >
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Date: Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 8:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com  "  >
Subject: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101



Anyone recently get a great deal for an 18 or 23 GHz (single polarity) licensed 
link? Looking at various options for something full ODU, single polarity, 
1024QAM.

Would also consider an older tech 256QAM radio set if the pricing is amazingly 
good.






Gino Villarini


President


Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

Re: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101

[Gino Villarini]

Define low cost

From: Af > on behalf of 
"eric.kuh...@gmail.com" 
>
Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
>
Date: Thursday, January 26, 2017 at 8:29 PM
To: "af@afmug.com" >
Subject: [AFMUG] Low cost single pol 18 and 23 GHz part101

Anyone recently get a great deal for an 18 or 23 GHz (single polarity) licensed 
link? Looking at various options for something full ODU, single polarity, 
1024QAM.

Would also consider an older tech 256QAM radio set if the pricing is amazingly 
good.




Gino Villarini


President
Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968

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