Re: [AMRadio] Free kilowatt BC transmitter - Long Island NY
One can easily rent a trailer it will fit in It was my understanding that the transmitter was moved on site and the building was built around it, so that the transmitter could not be removed from the bulding in one piece.. Renting the trailer would be the best idea if the BC station would let you tear out a wall in their building to remove the transmitter, and not charge you for the damage. I'm not sure if the BC1-F cabinet breaks down into two pieces, or if it is unibody construction. If it can be non-destructiviely disassembled, it can just as easily be re-assembled. But in the worst case, it would be better for a ham to part it out than for the BC station to hire a bunch of goons as a wrecking crew to do the same thing, and then take it all to the landfill. I'm sure that has already happened too many times. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/
[AMRadio] cb to 10 meters
Most of the older 23 channel units used a mixing scheme which involved one set of 4 crystals, and one set of 6. The standard conversion was to shift the set of 6 crystals up by 2 mhz each. Back then, the crystals were cheap. Now, I doubt you will find them for less than $10 or more each. Of course, you could only change one or two crystals, and you would have a similar number of new frequencies (4 per crystal). Moving these crystals upward by 2 mhz placed channel 1 at 28.965, etc. As someone has already mentioned, this pattern skips right over 29.0, but does fall onto 29.005 for channel 4. The later 23 channel pll units, and every 40 channel unit that I saw from the late 70s and early 80s could be converted by moving one crystal upward by whatever amount you wanted to move the rig. I have a 1980ish Sharp 40 channel rig converted this way, using the standard 2 mhz upward move, and it works great when the band is open. I bought it from a BC engineer who did a really neat job with the conversion, and it is otherwise unmodified. My first contact with it in 1998 was with a kh6. Someday, I may ask someone to add at least one more crystal, 5 khz higher or lower than the one currently in the unit. This will give me 40 more channels, and allow operation on 29.0, 29.010, etc. I bought a new pll board for a late 90s Maxon rig, and it fell flat as a pancake. The receiver worked fine, but the transmitter wave form and audio were awful. Having already spent more money that the thing was worth in the first place, I scrapped it and bought an HTX10. It's amazing what the converted cb sets will do with the right band conditions. If you have one, drag it out, change it over, and have it ready to go when the band comes back. If nothing else, it will be a wonderful monitor complete with a good squelch circuit. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
[AMRadio] CB Conversion to 15 Meters Anyone?
In my junkbox, I have an old Johnson Messenger. This is the Messenger that was born on the citizens band, not the one originally built for 10 meters. I have encountered a few people who have converted these units, but they are limited to a crystal controled receiver along with the transmitter. What I'd really like to do with mine is convert it down to 15 meters. Has anyone ever done such a thing with any cb model? If so, I'd like to know about it. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
Re: [AMRadio] CB Conversion to 15 Meters Anyone?
That is probably more than the coils could re tune to. Raising the freq you remove turn from coil if needed but going down would require more turns per coil and that would be very hard to do. Besides moving cb to 10 is only 1+ MHZ. Easy to do and realign. - Original Message - From: Mike Duke, K5XU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:24 PM Subject: [AMRadio] CB Conversion to 15 Meters Anyone? In my junkbox, I have an old Johnson Messenger. This is the Messenger that was born on the citizens band, not the one originally built for 10 meters. I have encountered a few people who have converted these units, but they are limited to a crystal controled receiver along with the transmitter. What I'd really like to do with mine is convert it down to 15 meters. Has anyone ever done such a thing with any cb model? If so, I'd like to know about it. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
RE: [AMRadio] Use of an oscilloscope to monitor am audio
There was an article in November 2005 Electric Radio on converting a scope into a modulation monitor, might be a waste of a good Tektronix scope in this case but a good use for an old Heathkit OS2 or similar. Basically it just sniffs off the RF feed from the TX and applies it to the scope via a capacitive attenuator. 73, Roger/G3VKM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.384 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 03/04/2006
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Folks, Thanks. Great info ... just what I needed! I plan to do it to a Courier Royale. It's part of my Collins Collection cuz it has a Collins Mechanical filter in it's IF. ;-) 73, Theo K4MO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:52 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: just changing four of the xtals in the xtal synth circuit and ending up with 23 channels in the 10 meter band. In my Robyn T-123B 23-channel tube-type crystal-mixing type CB, I changed the first two A oscillator crystals to 25.325 and 25.385 MHz and ended up with channels 1 thru 8 as follows: 29.000 MHz 29.010 29.020 29.040 29.060 29.070 29.080 29.100 MHz There is good info on these rigs at CBC International's website http://www.cbcintl.com/ under Crystal Mixing Charts. For my specific rig look at http://www.cbcintl.com/XTALS/AM%2014950-23290-11275-11730.pdf Steve WD8DAS [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
[AMRadio] FS: 211s, ZM-11, URM-25D, TS-375A, Millen 90651
For Sale. All prices plus shipping. 211 VT-4C tubes, one pair, used but tested by me and found to have excellent emission. $100/pair Military ZM-11 RLC bridge, made by Clough-Brengle, with matching Clough-Brengle original manual. Whenever this bridge is out of it's case, all it's functions work fine. When I put it back in the case, the high voltage (used for cap reforming and testing), stops working. So something is loose in there. Otherwise, the eye is bright and this thing works rather well. $80 Military URM-25D signal generator with lid and a couple of the accessories in the lid. Manual copy printed out from Kees Talen's CD. Untested. I've never plugged this in. $80 Military TS-375A/U VTVM. This is the matching VTVM for the instruments above and taken together, they look like family. With probes and lid. Untested. Another one I've never plugged in. $50 Military TS-375A/U VTVM. Another one with no lid and missing one probe. $25 Military TS-375A/U VTVM. A third one with no lid and missing a probe. $25 James Millen 90651 grid dip meter with all the coils in the cute little steel coil rack. The face plate of this meter has become pitted with many pencil-point size spots of corrosion. Also, the filament toggle switch has been replaced with one that doesn't match the other one, so that looks goofy. And the grommet feed-through for the AC cord has broken, probably dried up, and is gone. Waiting for your TLC. $65 Thanks for looking. 73, Don Merz, N3RHT The information contained in this e-mail may be confidential and is intended solely for the use of the named addressee. Access, copying or re-use of the e-mail or any information contained therein by any other person is not authorized. If you are not the intended recipient please notify us immediately by returning the e-mail to the originator.(17b)
[AMRadio] Cabinet disassembly - was Free kilowatt BC transmitter
I was able to disassemble the cabinet for a Gates 1J. The RF and Modulator decks were removed and the power supply components removed. The then empty cabinet yielded to movement since there were no more internal supports. I spent a few minutes swaying the cabinet to stress the top spot welds. Virtually all of the spot welds on the top of the cabinet broke cleanly. The bottom spot welds were handled with a sawzall. The cabinet panels can now be assembled with hardware as opposed to welding Even better, the panels may be painted individually. de KA4JVY Mark --- Donald Chester [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One can easily rent a trailer it will fit in It was my understanding that the transmitter was moved on site and the building was built around it, so that the transmitter could not be removed from the bulding in one piece.. Renting the trailer would be the best idea if the BC station would let you tear out a wall in their building to remove the transmitter, and not charge you for the damage. I'm not sure if the BC1-F cabinet breaks down into two pieces, or if it is unibody construction. If it can be non-destructiviely disassembled, it can just as easily be re-assembled. But in the worst case, it would be better for a ham to part it out than for the BC station to hire a bunch of goons as a wrecking crew to do the same thing, and then take it all to the landfill. I'm sure that has already happened too many times. Don k4kyv ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
[AMRadio] FS: Radio Books List Five
For Sale: Radio Books List Five. All prices plus $2 US media mailing. Shipping cost combined on multiple books. RF Noise Bridge, Ham Radio Magazine reprint, no covers, fair. $1 Stoner and Earnshaw, The Transistor Radio Handbook, Editors and Engineers, 1963 hardback, 175 pages. This is modeled on the Orr Radio Handbook. So it has chapters that start with theory and go through building various ham receiver and transmitter projects, plus ham test gear. But everything is transistor-no hollow state. $10 John T. Frye, Radio Receiver Servicing, Sams paperback, 1st ed., 1955, 186 pages. Excellent servicing guide. $10 Joseph J. Carr, Secrets of RF Circuit Dsign, Tab, 1997. There is a ton of interesting stuff in this book and it's very clearly laid out the way all of Carr's books tend to be. 568 pages. $13 Gavin Electronic Systems, Maverick and Maverick II tuneable filter instrction sheet. Free. Hallicrafters T.O. Keyer HA-1 original green instruction book. Hole-punched. $8 Design of Modern Radio Reciving Sets, by M. B. Sleeper, 1922, Radio and Model Engineering Series, Number 1. 50 pages. With cover that says Gimbel Brothers Radio Headquarters, New York. Oustanding antique in excellent condition. Great pictures. $45 Radio Model Engineering magazine set, edited by M. B. Sleeper, all in nice condition, each magazine is about 31 pages and has a particular receiver project as it's main article, plus many other smaller articles. $60/all. Issues included in this set are Feb-March, 1922 Vol 2 #2 April, 1922 Vol 2 #3 May-June, 1922, Vol 2 #4 August, 1922 Vol II, #6 September, 1922 Vol II #7 October, 1922 Vol II #8 November 1922 Vol II #9 December 1922, Vol 2 #10 April, 1923 Vol III #3 May, 1923 Vol III #4 Radio Model Engineering magazine set, edited by M. B. Sleeper, all in nice condition, each magazine is about 31 pages and has a particular receiver project as it's main article, plus many other smaller articles. $15/all 3 issues. Issues included in this set are October, 1922 Vol II #8 November 1922 Vol II #9 December 1922, Vol 2 #10 Popular Science Third Radio Annual, Seventh printing, 1946 (originally copyright 1934), light cover wear. 137 pages. Lots of projcts and troubleshooting. Very nice. $17 Popular Radio magazine, April, 1924, 100 pages. Cover with many problems at edges and taped at spine. Other wear. $4 Quaker Electronics Surplus News, August 1975, Vol 1 #1. Newspaper format. This is a catalog of surplus manuals with large schematics for some popular surplus radios. $1 each, 2 copies available. Eldico AM-30 modulator schematic only. Free Harold S. Black, Bell Laboratories Series, Modulation Theory, D. Van Nostrand hardback with dust jacket, 1953, 350 pages. Excellent text. $28 The Radio Antenna Handbook, 2nd ed., Radio Magazine, 111 pages, paperback. Undated byut it is 1930's vintage. Covers dirty and scruffy. $7 Joseph D. Carr, The Radio Hobbyist's Handbook, Tab hardback, 375 pages, 1st ed., 1982. Excellent. $7 John Kuecken, How To Measure Anything With Electronic Instruments, Tab paperback, 1981. 336 pages. $7 John Kuecken, How To Measure Anything With Electronic Instruments, Tab HARDback, 1981. 336 pages. $10 Harry D Hooten, Amateur Radio SSB Guide, Sams paperback, 126 pages, 1968, $6. Bertram M. Freed, Point-To-Point Resistance Analysis, Radio Craft Library Number 18, Radio Craft Magazine, 1938, 61 page paperback. Well-done. $8 Harry D. Hooten, Amateur Radio Antenna Handbook, Sams paperback, 160 pages, 1st. ed., 1962. Pretty well done. $5 Z. H. Meiksin Philip C. Thackaray, Electronic Dsign With Off-The-Shelf Integrated Circuits, Parker, 1980, 360 page hardback with dust jacket, autographed by Thackaray. $20 Robert L. Goodman, How To Troubleshoot Repair Electronic Circuits, Tab hardback, 1st. ed, 1981, 350+ pages. Slightly bent from improper storage. $5 Watson, Welch, Eby, Undertsnading Radio, McGraw-Hill hardback, 1940, 600 pages. Excellent text. $10 J. Douglas Fortune, Amateur Radio, A Beginner's Guide, Thordarson Mfg., 1940, hardback. Projects and simple theory for building a complete station. Very nice. $12 Leo G. Sands, Easy Way To Service Radio Receivers, Tab hardback, 1968, 170 pages, ex-library, slight spine damage. $8 Joseph J. Carr, Antenna Data Reference Manual, Tab paperback, 1st ed., 1979. $10 Ladner C. R. Stoner, Short Wave Wireless Communication, 4th ed., John Wiley, 1942, hardback with torn just jacket, 525 pages, Extra-nice text. $12 Thomas M. Adams, Radio Circuits, Sams paperback, 1963, 160 pages. This does ananysis of currents in popular circuits, using color-coded flow to trace the currents in circuit diagrams. Actually pretty interesting. $5 Art Seidman, CQ Antenna Roundup, CQ, 1963, paperback, 155 pages. Good. $5 Rider, John, Vacuum Tube VoltMeters, Rider, 1951. 180 page hardback with dust jacket, worth it for the way-cool dust jacket alone. $10 Rider, John, Alternating Currents in Radio Receivers, 937 hardback, Rider, 91 pages. $8 Rider, John,
[AMRadio] FS: Radio Books List Six
For Sale: Radio Books List Six. All prices plus $2 US media mailing cost. Shipping combined on multiple books. Skroder and Helm, Circuit Analysis by Laboratory Methods, Prentice Hall hardback, 1946, 275 pages. Good text. $10 Lafayette 50th Anniversary Catalog, 1971. Nice. $7 Bill Orr, Beam Antenna Handbook, Radio Publications paperback, 1955, 125 pages, cover worn. $5 Alfred A. Ghirardi, Modern Radio Servicing, 1935, Radio and Technical Publishing, almost 1300 pages. This is the first edition hardback with dustjacket and beautifully-embossed cover in excellent condition. $20 Parr and Davie, The Cathode Ray Tube and Its Applications, Reinhold hardback, 3rd ed, 1959, 425 pages, with dist jacket. Excellent text. $12 Bliley Electric Company, Frequency Control With Quartz Crystals, Engineering Bulletin E-6, 1938, 28 pages, cover tearing at bottom of spine. $8 Henney and Fahnestock, Electron Tubes In Industry, McGraw-Hill hardback, 1962, 3rd ed., ex-library, 225 pages, good. $12 Austin Eastman, Fundamentals of Vacuum Tubes, 2nd. Ed., 1941, McGraw-Hill hardback, 550+ pages with teacher's answers to questions guide. The classic vacuum tube text. $20 Terman, Frederick, Radio Engineering, 2nd ed., 1937, McGraw-Hill hardback, 800 pages, essential for any early radio bookshelf. $20 2 copies available Robert C. Genn, Manual of Electronic Servicing Tests and Measurements, Parker soft cover, comb-bound, 250+ pages, 1980, very well laid-out, divided into tests for radio receiver, CB radios, power supplies, audio gear, TV, tape recorders, etc. Totally practical anduseful. $8 Lenkurt Electric Co., Inc, The Lenkurt Demodulator, hardbound collection of editions from 1955 through 1965, divided by topic: Multiplex Technology, Microwave Radio, Digital Data Transmission, General Communications and Semiconductor Devices, 700+ pages, simply written with great photos and diagrams. Nice. $10 Men and Volts at War, The Story of General Electric Company In WWII, John Anderson Miller, Whittlesey, 1947, 280 pages, nice hardback, outstanding pictures and good text. $25 John D. Lenk, How to Use Signal Generatos in The Laboratory, Rider paperback, 1967, 105 pages. Covers lots of component and circuit testing, using sweep generators for vaious measurements, and stuff you don't ordinarily think of like time-domain reflection etsts. Nice. $5 Robert G. Middleton, 101 Ways To Use Your Audio Test Equipment, Sams paperback, 1st ed., 136 pages. $4 Ethelyn M. Parkinson, Today I am A Ham, Archway paperback, 1970. $5 Signal Corps, US Army, Principles Underlying Radio Communicaton, USGPO hardback, 1921. 575 pages. A classic text. $10 each 2 copies available. Alexander Schure, Limiters and Clippers, Rider paperback, 1955, 56 pages. Good. $5 Alexander Schure, Antennas, Rider paperback, 78 pages. Good. $5 Robert G. Middleton, Sweep and Marker Generators for TV and Radio, Gernsback hardback, 1955, 222 pages. Nice. $8 Rhys Samuel, The VTVM, Gernsback hardback, 1956, 225 pages. Excellent Text. $8 each 2 copies available George Zwick, The Oscilloscope, Gernsback hardback, 1954, 194 pages. $8 Bruno Zucconi Martin Clifford, Probes, Gernsback hardback, 1955. Good text. $8 John Fasal, Simplified Electronic Measurements, Hayden paperback, 144 pages, 1971. $6 Robert G, Middleton, Know Your Signal Generator, Sams, library-bound hardback, 144 pages, 1965. $6 Louis M. Dezettel, Amateur Tests and Measurements, Editors and Engineers paperback, 1st. ed., 1978, 205 pages. Excellent. $7 Walter C. Michels, Electrical Measurements and Their Applications, D. Van Nostrand Co. hardback with dust jacket, 1967, 325 pages. Sophisticated text with math-based experiments. $12 R. Bunney, A TV Dxer's Handbook, Bernard Babani Publishing paperback in 8.5x11 format, 86 pages, 1986, excellent condition. Uncommon text. $12 J. Brandstatter, An Introduction To Waves, Rays and Radiation in Plasma Media, McGraw-Hill hardback, 1963, 690 pages. Strong calculus knowledge required. $12 Robert G. Middleton, 101 Ways To Use Your Signal Generatr, Sams paperback, 2nd ed., 1967, 142 pages. $5 Robert G. Middleton, Guide to VOMs FET VOMs, Radio Shack paperback, 1979, 94 pages. $4 MIT Electrical Engineering Department Staff, Applied Electronics, A First Course In Electrnics, Electron Tubes and Associated Circuits, John Wiley hardback, 1943, 760 pages. Links mathematical theory to practical applications. For instance, the dynamics of the space charge inside tubes is analyzed at length. Sophisticated text. $19 Slurzberg Osterheld Essentials of Radio, McGraw-Hill hardback, 1948, 800 pages. Complex and in-depth text. $12 Edward M. Noll, 73 Dipole and Long_wire Antennas, Editors and Engineers ppaerback, 1979 printing, 160 pages. Simple antenna cookbook with lots of diploe variants $5 Harry D. Hooten, Amateur Antenna Tests and Measurements, Sams paperback, 1977, 192 pages. Right up our alley. $7 Bill Orr, Beam Antenna Handbook 5th ed., Radio Publications paperback,
Re: [AMRadio] FS: 211s, ZM-11, URM-25D, TS-375A, Millen 90651
Don, I'll take the 211 VT-4C pair. I have a Western Electric 451A that I will get on the air this year. Uses 6 of the 211 tubes. 73, Larry K2LT Merz Donald S wrote: For Sale. All prices plus shipping. 211 VT-4C tubes, one pair, used but tested by me and found to have excellent emission. $100/pair
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Most activity is on 29.1 to 29.2 So you can select crystals to move up 2 Mhz so you will have channels beginning with 29.0. Some started at 28.9XX so the channels fell at 29.0,29.01,29.02,29.035,etc. If your rig has a claifier it can be set to tune between channels as they are not all on 10 khz spacing. Much of the QRp activity on 10 was on 29.060 in years past. I often monitor 29.060 but don't hear much Others monitor 29.00. Healthfully yours, DON W4BWS - Original Message - From: Theo Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 8:49 AM Subject: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies I seem to remember that about 20 years ago some folks were converting 23 channel CB rigs to use on 10 meters (by legal hams, of course). I think they were just changing four of the xtals in the xtal synth circuit and ending up with 23 channels in the 10 meter band. At the time I think there was some sort of agreed upon scheme so everyone was ending up on the same 23 frequencies. Does anyone know what these are? If not, what would be a good choice of frequencies for such a conversion? I have an old antique tube type CB rig I want to put on 10 meters. Thanks 73, Theo K4MO __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] Use of an oscilloscope to monitor am audio
That article maintains the normal operation of the scope, via a switch. 73, Ed Richards K6UUZ Simi Valley, Ca 93065 Home of the Air Force 1 pavilion On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 09:03:04 +0100 Roger Basford [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was an article in November 2005 Electric Radio on converting a scope into a modulation monitor, might be a waste of a good Tektronix scope in this case but a good use for an old Heathkit OS2 or similar. Basically it just sniffs off the RF feed from the TX and applies it to the scope via a capacitive attenuator. 73, Roger/G3VKM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.384 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 03/04/2006 __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] cb to 10 meters
Could you move them up instead by 2.035 MHz and hit 29.000 MHz OK? Is there still any AM activity cenetered around 29.100 MHz also? On 3 Apr 2006 at 22:20, Mike Duke, K5XU wrote: Most of the older 23 channel units used a mixing scheme which involved one set of 4 crystals, and one set of 6. The standard conversion was to shift the set of 6 crystals up by 2 mhz each. Back then, the crystals were cheap. Now, I doubt you will find them for less than $10 or more each. Of course, you could only change one or two crystals, and you would have a similar number of new frequencies (4 per crystal). Moving these crystals upward by 2 mhz placed channel 1 at 28.965, etc. As someone has already mentioned, this pattern skips right over 29.0, but does fall onto 29.005 for channel 4. The later 23 channel pll units, and every 40 channel unit that I saw from the late 70s and early 80s could be converted by moving one crystal upward by whatever amount you wanted to move the rig. I have a 1980ish Sharp 40 channel rig converted this way, using the standard 2 mhz upward move, and it works great when the band is open. I bought it from a BC engineer who did a really neat job with the conversion, and it is otherwise unmodified. My first contact with it in 1998 was with a kh6. Someday, I may ask someone to add at least one more crystal, 5 khz higher or lower than the one currently in the unit. This will give me 40 more channels, and allow operation on 29.0, 29.010, etc. I bought a new pll board for a late 90s Maxon rig, and it fell flat as a pancake. The receiver worked fine, but the transmitter wave form and audio were awful. Having already spent more money that the thing was worth in the first place, I scrapped it and bought an HTX10. It's amazing what the converted cb sets will do with the right band conditions. If you have one, drag it out, change it over, and have it ready to go when the band comes back. If nothing else, it will be a wonderful monitor complete with a good squelch circuit. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
Let's face the facts about this K1MAN issue... He never provided code practice to the best of my knowledge ever, only endless voice material AND... It appears he wasn't acting as a control operator at the control point AND it appears he wasn't meeting the proper ID at the proper times... and he refused to provide material requested by the Commission about the control issue ... (not to mention the apparent interfering with on-going QSO's... including a Boy Scout special events station... and others...) These are obvious violations of the rules... I am sure if I had done any of this I would take the fine and pay the thing or just go away... and I fully would expect to get fined if I ever did violate the above... I also fully understand that scofflaws think the rules are for everyone else and NOT them... In this case K1MAN earned the fine... 73 Vince ka1iic On Monday 03 April 2006 11:40 am, Mike Sanders K0AZ wrote: big snip It amazes me at how much serious talent on this page is so very narrow minded and self centered. 73 and yes I will be going now. K0AZ Mike Sanders 18169 Highway 174 MT Vernon, Missouri 65712-9171 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Personally, since the demand for the Courier Royale is high among CB collectors, I would sell that rig, Ebay or whatever. $75 to $150 is not uncommon for that rig. Take the proceeds and buy several cheap CB's that you can diddle with, steal parts, etc. or get a used Uniden HR-2510 or 2600. Pete, wa2cwa On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 08:56:48 -0400 Theo Bellamy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Folks, Thanks. Great info ... just what I needed! I plan to do it to a Courier Royale. It's part of my Collins Collection cuz it has a Collins Mechanical filter in it's IF. ;-) 73, Theo K4MO -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 10:52 PM To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: just changing four of the xtals in the xtal synth circuit and ending up with 23 channels in the 10 meter band. In my Robyn T-123B 23-channel tube-type crystal-mixing type CB, I changed the first two A oscillator crystals to 25.325 and 25.385 MHz and ended up with channels 1 thru 8 as follows: 29.000 MHz 29.010 29.020 29.040 29.060 29.070 29.080 29.100 MHz There is good info on these rigs at CBC International's website http://www.cbcintl.com/ under Crystal Mixing Charts. For my specific rig look at http://www.cbcintl.com/XTALS/AM%2014950-23290-11275-11730.pdf Steve WD8DAS [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Has anyone made this modification to an old Lafayette Comstat 25? I have a couple of those I've been wanting to convert to 10 meters. Rick/K5IZ Peter Markavage wrote: Personally, since the demand for the Courier Royale is high among CB collectors, I would sell that rig, Ebay or whatever. $75 to $150 is not uncommon for that rig. Take the proceeds and buy several cheap CB's that you can diddle with, steal parts, etc. or get a used Uniden HR-2510 or 2600. Pete, wa2cwa
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Pete, wa2cwa wrote: Personally, since the demand for the Courier Royale is high among CB collectors, I would sell that rig, Ebay or whatever. $75 to $150 is not uncommon for that rig. That is true. However, I have a sentimental attachment to the Royale. I kept myself from starving back in the early 70's by fixing CBs by the side of the interstate in Texas. I liked working on the tube sets, and the Courier line was my favorite. I also have an old Browning Eagle (R27/S23) that I plan to put on 10 meters AM as well. That should be fun CQ CQ CQ from K4MO ping!!. Actually, I will put a switch in it so it won't ping every time ... only when I want to really annoy someone. ;-) Theo K4MO
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Hmmm ... make the ping first, then audio . Jeeze you think I would remember better than that. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theo Bellamy Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:59 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies Pete, wa2cwa wrote: Personally, since the demand for the Courier Royale is high among CB collectors, I would sell that rig, Ebay or whatever. $75 to $150 is not uncommon for that rig. That is true. However, I have a sentimental attachment to the Royale. I kept myself from starving back in the early 70's by fixing CBs by the side of the interstate in Texas. I liked working on the tube sets, and the Courier line was my favorite. I also have an old Browning Eagle (R27/S23) that I plan to put on 10 meters AM as well. That should be fun CQ CQ CQ from K4MO ping!!. Actually, I will put a switch in it so it won't ping every time ... only when I want to really annoy someone. ;-) Theo K4MO __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
RE: [AMRadio] ping vs thunk!
Ha! ... many do seem to thunk, don't they? The Brownings had a capacitor that caused the receiver to mute slowly so each transmission was preceded by brief audio feedback. A popular mod was to install a DPST center off toggle so you could switch between two different caps for a long ping and a short ping, or turn it off altogether. Really skillful ops would wave the mic in front of the speaker causing the feedback to warble as it died. Hence the name Screaming Eagle. ;-) 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Keith Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:05 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio] ping vs thunk! CQ CQ CQ from K4MO ping!!. Hmm. I always thought that AM transmitters should have a Thunk sound when when you let off the XMIT switch.. CQ from KQ4BY ... THUNK! 73, Larry KQ4BY Larry Keith 231 Shenandoah Trail Warner Robins, GA 31088-6289 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 478-329-0030 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
RE: [AMRadio] ping vs thunk!
OK I am going to work now. I obviously can't post to the list and work at the same time today ;-( It shouldn't be DPST it should be SPDT. $#$^#$#$ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Theo Bellamy Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:16 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: RE: [AMRadio] ping vs thunk! Ha! ... many do seem to thunk, don't they? The Brownings had a capacitor that caused the receiver to mute slowly so each transmission was preceded by brief audio feedback. A popular mod was to install a DPST center off toggle so you could switch between two different caps for a long ping and a short ping, or turn it off altogether. Really skillful ops would wave the mic in front of the speaker causing the feedback to warble as it died. Hence the name Screaming Eagle. ;-) 73 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Larry Keith Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 12:05 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: [AMRadio] ping vs thunk! CQ CQ CQ from K4MO ping!!. Hmm. I always thought that AM transmitters should have a Thunk sound when when you let off the XMIT switch.. CQ from KQ4BY ... THUNK! 73, Larry KQ4BY Larry Keith 231 Shenandoah Trail Warner Robins, GA 31088-6289 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 478-329-0030 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
In addition if you're interested in knowing if the band is open, don't forget to tune through the beacon portion of the band approx 28200 - 28300. 73, Mark W1EOF -Original Message- From: Rev. Don Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 10:46 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies SNIP Much of the QRp activity on 10 was on 29.060 in years past. I often monitor 29.060 but don't hear much Others monitor 29.00. Healthfully yours, DON W4BWS -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/06
RE: [AMRadio] k1man fined
I don't disagree with you Vince. Or with all that has been said about K1MAN on this list. I think we all miss the bigger issue: K1MAN *WANTS* to get caught. He wants to be the center of attention and like many children he will do whatever he feels is necessary to get that attention. He was going to push issues until the FCC responded. I can, and do respect amateurs who disagree with me on issues related to radio, etc. I have no respect for K1MAN. His childish and selfish activitites makes us all look bad and should be shutdown permanently ASAP. 73, Mark W1EOF -Original Message- From: vince werber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:55 AM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Let's face the facts about this K1MAN issue... SNIP In this case K1MAN earned the fine... 73 Vince ka1iic -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/06
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
I'm somewhat intrigued with converting a CB radio to 10 meters from the pure technical perspective, but the typical 4 watts AM power leaves a LOT to be desired. Am I missing something here? I have a Radio Shack HTX-10 that does 7 watts AM but is more respectable on FM and SSB at 25 watts. I have a Pace Sidetalk 1000B that I could use but it is a well featured radio with built in SWR/power meter, clock/power off timer, noise blanking, and of course SSB. The SSB is what would be attractive for conversion but I hate to butcher a nice radio. On the other hand I have an old JC Penney 23 channel radio or a Realistic TRC-430 40 channel radio(not sure if this can be done with a 1 crystal/PLL scheme) that I could use for AM and wouldn't mind diddling with but again, to what end other than the fun of it which is ok in itself I guess? Tom K3TVC
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
I have a modern galaxy dx 99v or something like that. Its 'supposed' to be for 10 meters, does am, fm, ssb, at about 10 watts out on am. Its set up for CB on one of the 8 bands, has a freq counter built in, and the roger beep and other CB must haves. By changing a crystal, you can get it to cover cb and the higher 10 meter frequencies, but I never got the crystal as its some weird frequency. As it is, I think it goes from 25.2 to 28.8 I got it when I went down to New Orleans after the storm, it was great to do CB down south on the hiways, the north east is just a CB mess. I should sell it on Ebay, I paid over $300.00 and would be happy to get $150.00 for it. If anyone here is interested, let me know, otherwise I should see if I can undo the CB mod and find out what the frequency range is. Not much use for CB in New Jersey Brett N2DTS
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
y'all got to remember that when ten is open, 5 watts can work the world. I'm reminded of a time years ago when 4 of us here in shreveport were talking on ten meters and kept getting interrupted by others. We all turned our drive down as far as it would go. I had virtually no deflection from my wattmeter. Suddenly, a fellow in Tucson broke in and said hey I can still hear you guys LOL 4 years ago when propogation was still decent, I worked 13 european countries on ten am with a barefoot ranger. you just don't need a great deal of power to make good contacts on ten meters Ronnie - W5SUM -- Original Message --- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tue, 4 Apr 2006 13:48:12 -0400 Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies I'm somewhat intrigued with converting a CB radio to 10 meters from the pure technical perspective, but the typical 4 watts AM power leaves a LOT to be desired. Am I missing something here? I have a Radio Shack HTX-10 that does 7 watts AM but is more respectable on FM and SSB at 25 watts. I have a Pace Sidetalk 1000B that I could use but it is a well featured radio with built in SWR/power meter, clock/power off timer, noise blanking, and of course SSB. The SSB is what would be attractive for conversion but I hate to butcher a nice radio. On the other hand I have an old JC Penney 23 channel radio or a Realistic TRC-430 40 channel radio(not sure if this can be done with a 1 crystal/PLL scheme) that I could use for AM and wouldn't mind diddling with but again, to what end other than the fun of it which is ok in itself I guess? Tom K3TVC __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb --- End of Original Message ---
Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Ronnie Hull wrote: y'all got to remember that when ten is open, 5 watts can work the world. About five years ago, or so, I worked a VK on 28.4 Mhz with a QRP rig running about 7W PEP, from my mobile (running a Larson NMO-34 with 60 whip). That little rig is a portable. handie-talkie-style rig, that runs AM, FM, and SSB, and nominally operates the entire 10M band.It tunes similarly to a 2510. There is a mod to put it on CB (actually 26 - 30 Mhz), but who cares about that. It cost me $149.95 (US) and was a bargain.
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
Pete what is the FCC rule regarding Bulletins being limited to ten minutes on amateur radio, please? No Mike, I would not expect you to visit the ARRL site for any information. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands In a 24 hour period, the W1AW bulletin transmissions generally last 10 to 15 minutes or less. There are 3 Code Bulletins, 2 RTTY Bulletins, and 1 Phone Bulletin on the major HF bands. The rest of the W1AW transmissions are generally designated for Code Practice. This is in contrast to the K1MAN transmissions, which generally lasted 90 minutes or more, depending upon the accuracy of his Radio Shack timer. W1AW and K1MAN are not in the same league of information bulletin disseminators. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:29:51 -0500 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No kidding Pete?! Is it my responsibility to check the ARRgghhL web site for their transmissions? Some may visit it more than others but I do not (nor do I care). In reference to the broadcasting, this is what I said: I don't have a rule book in front of me but I thought that one-way transmissions, in and of their self was prohibited by the FCC until this issue came up. Clue: read the last part of my statement carefully. Personally, I think that the ARRgghhL should cease and desist with their one-way transmissions since they never check the frequency to see if it is in use. I hold them in the same low esteem as K1(wo)MAN. To me that is intentional QRM and is subject to the same set of rules that you cite. Their best bet would be to get permission or licensing to broadcast just outside of the ham bands and not cause any problems to anyone. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Slk said, As a non-member of the ARRgghhL, I do not get their reports or broadcasting (since it is a single transmission to the masses) schedule. Any of this information is available off the ARRL Web Site whether you're a member or not. The complete W1AW bulletin schedule and frequencies are available off the their web site. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands. See 97.111 (b)(6) 97.111 Authorized transmissions. (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; (3) Telecommand; (4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications; (5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; (6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; (7) Transmissions of telemetry. AND See 97.113 (b) 97.113 Prohibited transmissions. (a) No amateur station shall transmit: (1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this Part; (2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules; (3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest, including communications on behalf of an employer. Amateur operators may, however, notify other amateur operators of the availability for sale or trade of apparatus normally used in an amateur station, provided that such activity is not conducted on a regular basis; (4) Music using a phone emission except as specifically provided elsewhere in this Section; communications intended to facilitate a criminal act; messages in codes or ciphers intended to obscure the meaning thereof, except as otherwise provided herein; obscene or indecent words or language; or false or deceptive messages, signals or identification; (5) Communications, on a regular basis, which could reasonably be furnished alternatively through other radio services. (b) An amateur station shall not engage in any form of broadcasting, nor may an amateur station transmit one-way communications except as specifically provided in these rules; nor shall an amateur station engage in any activity related to program production or news gathering for broadcasting purposes, except that communications directly related to the immediate safety of human life or the protection of property may be provided by amateur stations to broadcasters for dissemination to the public where no other means of communication is reasonably available before or at the time of the
[AMRadio] 1F
Don, I've received nothing from Tara, I called the 472-1270 and think they answered WFUL ?? but it was a poor recording. Left a message but haven't heard anything from that as well. Tried the other number, no answer! Wonder if the Tornados could have affected them? Close to Dyersburg somewhat. Gary __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies
Boy that's the truth. A few years back I had my HTX-100 in the car. With that 25W I worked the world. Doesn't take much power at all. 73, Mark W1EOF -Original Message- From: ronnie.hull [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 2:30 PM To: Discussion of AM Radio Subject: Re: [AMRadio] 10 Meter AM Frequencies SNIP 4 years ago when propogation was still decent, I worked 13 european countries on ten am with a barefoot ranger. you just don't need a great deal of power to make good contacts on ten meters Ronnie - W5SUM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/06
[AMRadio] Sorry
Sorry I messed up! Since I don't type, I use reply a lot and didn't check. Again I appologize --- G. TAYLOR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don, I've received nothing from Tara, __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
Tell that to the fellow op who just got his QSO squashed by W1AM firing up on top of him! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Never said there was a FCC rule limiting Bulletin time. I timed them on 7290 on 4 separate occasions over the last year. If we all had to just worry about only W1AW alleged QRM, we should be very happy. They are small fish in the overall amateur band QRM problems. Pete, wa2cwa Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
I don't know of any time limit but there are clear rules regarding station ID's and having control operators on site during a broadcast... What really ended it for me was when K1MAN started sending out those so called 'felony complaint affidavites'... K1MAN has been told by a number of Federal department NOT to do that... He was even warned by Federal Attorneys outside of the Commission to stop it but he insisted on it so... That is a character issue sure but it sure makes ham radio look foolish in the eyes of the world... I will be happy to see this resolved, over and done with. It's been going on for 15 + years and just because of the amount of time involved it doesn't make it right. As Amateurs we are suppose to 'self police' to a degree... In this case anyone that dared question these actions generally end up in court... He would sue people for disagreeing with him... He generally lost but it was a real effective intimidation tool for K1MAN... Rules are rules and it's about time the FCC did show that they have enough interest in Amateur radio to keep it from becoming another CB FUBAR... And that was the way it was going before the recent crackdown... I will never defend a person that acts contrary to any hobby. service etc that I enjoy... and as for emergency communications are concerned... I have seen no evidence that K1MAN has worked in any emergency situation for over 10 years... But then he did say he was 'the most experienced in emergency communications'... Proving the is no end to a pompus windbag... If that offends folks well... what can I say... I sure won't say I'm sorry... at least not sorry for enforcement but I am very sorry it took so long But if anyone doesn't agree... it's a free country... K1MAN didn't allow disagreement tho... go figure... 73 vince On Tuesday 04 April 2006 03:29 pm, Brian Carling wrote: Pete what is the FCC rule regarding Bulletins being limited to ten minutes on amateur radio, please? No Mike, I would not expect you to visit the ARRL site for any information. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands In a 24 hour period, the W1AW bulletin transmissions generally last 10 to 15 minutes or less. There are 3 Code Bulletins, 2 RTTY Bulletins, and 1 Phone Bulletin on the major HF bands. The rest of the W1AW transmissions are generally designated for Code Practice. This is in contrast to the K1MAN transmissions, which generally lasted 90 minutes or more, depending upon the accuracy of his Radio Shack timer. W1AW and K1MAN are not in the same league of information bulletin disseminators. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:29:51 -0500 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No kidding Pete?! Is it my responsibility to check the ARRgghhL web site for their transmissions? Some may visit it more than others but I do not (nor do I care). In reference to the broadcasting, this is what I said: I don't have a rule book in front of me but I thought that one-way transmissions, in and of their self was prohibited by the FCC until this issue came up. Clue: read the last part of my statement carefully. Personally, I think that the ARRgghhL should cease and desist with their one-way transmissions since they never check the frequency to see if it is in use. I hold them in the same low esteem as K1(wo)MAN. To me that is intentional QRM and is subject to the same set of rules that you cite. Their best bet would be to get permission or licensing to broadcast just outside of the ham bands and not cause any problems to anyone. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Slk said, As a non-member of the ARRgghhL, I do not get their reports or broadcasting (since it is a single transmission to the masses) schedule. Any of this information is available off the ARRL Web Site whether you're a member or not. The complete W1AW bulletin schedule and frequencies are available off the their web site. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands. See 97.111 (b)(6) 97.111 Authorized transmissions. (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; (3) Telecommand; (4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications; (5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code;
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
Maybe you should drop Art, W1AM, a note, and ask him why it happened. Pete, cwa On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:52:46 -0400 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell that to the fellow op who just got his QSO squashed by W1AM firing up on top of him! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Never said there was a FCC rule limiting Bulletin time. I timed them on 7290 on 4 separate occasions over the last year. If we all had to just worry about only W1AW alleged QRM, we should be very happy. They are small fish in the overall amateur band QRM problems. Pete, wa2cwa
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
I never said that you said that Pete. Please read again. I just asked you, since you implied it in your statement: In a 24 hour period, the W1AW bulletin transmissions generally last 10 to 15 minutes or less. as if that somehow made it legal and made K1MAN illegal. Faulty logic if one is trying to say or imply that! This is in contrast to the K1MAN transmissions, which generally lasted 90 minutes or more, If it is not an issue according to the rules, then why even bother bringing it up? Our opinions about the length of someone's radio transmission are no more important than our opinions of the length of anything else. I am not saying I support everything K1MAN has done, but I certainly don't give blanket support to the fanatics who persecute him either. Never said there was a FCC rule limiting Bulletin time. I timed them on 7290 on 4 separate occasions over the last year. If we all had to just worry about only W1AW alleged QRM, we should be very happy. They are small fish in the overall amateur band QRM problems. Pete, wa2cwa On Tue, 04 Apr 2006 15:29:24 -0400 Brian Carling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Pete what is the FCC rule regarding Bulletins being limited to ten minutes on amateur radio, please? No Mike, I would not expect you to visit the ARRL site for any information. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands In a 24 hour period, the W1AW bulletin transmissions generally last 10 to 15 minutes or less. There are 3 Code Bulletins, 2 RTTY Bulletins, and 1 Phone Bulletin on the major HF bands. The rest of the W1AW transmissions are generally designated for Code Practice. This is in contrast to the K1MAN transmissions, which generally lasted 90 minutes or more, depending upon the accuracy of his Radio Shack timer. W1AW and K1MAN are not in the same league of information bulletin disseminators. Pete, wa2cwa On Sat, 1 Apr 2006 23:29:51 -0500 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No kidding Pete?! Is it my responsibility to check the ARRgghhL web site for their transmissions? Some may visit it more than others but I do not (nor do I care). In reference to the broadcasting, this is what I said: I don't have a rule book in front of me but I thought that one-way transmissions, in and of their self was prohibited by the FCC until this issue came up. Clue: read the last part of my statement carefully. Personally, I think that the ARRgghhL should cease and desist with their one-way transmissions since they never check the frequency to see if it is in use. I hold them in the same low esteem as K1(wo)MAN. To me that is intentional QRM and is subject to the same set of rules that you cite. Their best bet would be to get permission or licensing to broadcast just outside of the ham bands and not cause any problems to anyone. Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Saturday, April 01, 2006 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Slk said, As a non-member of the ARRgghhL, I do not get their reports or broadcasting (since it is a single transmission to the masses) schedule. Any of this information is available off the ARRL Web Site whether you're a member or not. The complete W1AW bulletin schedule and frequencies are available off the their web site. One way information bulletins are not illegal on the Amateur Bands. See 97.111 (b)(6) 97.111 Authorized transmissions. (b) In addition to one-way transmissions specifically authorized elsewhere in this Part, an amateur station may transmit the following types of one-way communications: (1) Brief transmissions necessary to make adjustments to the station; (2) Brief transmissions necessary to establishing two-way communications with other stations; (3) Telecommand; (4) Transmissions necessary to providing emergency communications; (5) Transmissions necessary to assisting persons learning, or improving proficiency in, the international Morse code; (6) Transmissions necessary to disseminate information bulletins; (7) Transmissions of telemetry. AND See 97.113 (b) 97.113 Prohibited transmissions. (a) No amateur station shall transmit: (1) Communications specifically prohibited elsewhere in this Part; (2) Communications for hire or for material compensation, direct or indirect, paid or promised, except as otherwise provided in these rules; (3) Communications in which the station licensee or control operator has a pecuniary interest,
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
On Tuesday 04 April 2006 4:18 pm, Peter Markavage wrote: Maybe you should drop Art, W1AM, a note, and ask him why it happened. Pete, cwa On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:52:46 -0400 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell that to the fellow op who just got his QSO squashed by W1AM firing up What does any of this K1MAN/W1AW stuff have to do with AM discussion? Let's get back on track here folks. I've already had two people leave the list today.
Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined
I meant W1AW. - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 5:18 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Maybe you should drop Art, W1AM, a note, and ask him why it happened. Pete, cwa On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:52:46 -0400 Mike Sawyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Tell that to the fellow op who just got his QSO squashed by W1AM firing up on top of him! Mod-U-Lator, Mike(y) W3SLK - Original Message - From: Peter Markavage [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 4:30 PM Subject: Re: [AMRadio] k1man fined Never said there was a FCC rule limiting Bulletin time. I timed them on 7290 on 4 separate occasions over the last year. If we all had to just worry about only W1AW alleged QRM, we should be very happy. They are small fish in the overall amateur band QRM problems. Pete, wa2cwa __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] back on track
Brian: As the list administrator, you can direct what topics can be discussed, but on 1/30/06 you said, Our list is primarily for discussion of AMRadio in regard to operating, equipment, tech questions, answers, scheds, news, and friendly discussion for those who enjoy our niche of the hobby. Announcements of threatening news against our part of ham radio is perfectly acceptable As Don pointed out, K1MAN has a history with the AM community. Besides what Don cited, K1MAN has broadcast his bulletin service on 3890 for years on AM and sometimes even below that frequency. W1AW has been doing their voice bulletins on the 40 meter AM calling frequency for years using the SSB mode. Truly both of their amateur activities have had an impact on the AM community for many years. I also question why someone would choose to leave the list rather than exercising the delete button on their computer, when messages not in their interest, come up. In my opinion, Amateur Radio is threatened(loosely put) with many possible changes over the next few years which directly impacts the AM community, and maybe for many, their current AM rigs on the air. General amateur radio discussions which may or may not directly impact AM operations should not be discouraged. Being aware of ARRL/W1AW activities or FCC activities is very important as we move forward in amateur radio. Pete, WA2CWA On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 16:38:30 -0500 Brian Sherrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What does any of this K1MAN/W1AW stuff have to do with AM discussion? Let's get back on track here folks. I've already had two people leave the list today.
[AMRadio] Cable
Does anyone have a good source for 8 conductor shielded cable as used to connect the BC-614 speech amplifier to the BC-610 transmitter? I'm sure the regular sources will have it, but I am curious if anyone has a more reasonably priced outlet. I am in need of about 20'. Thanks, Rick/K5IZ
Re: [AMRadio] Cable
Electrosonic in Canada 1-800-56SONIC Or you can call any of the Broadcasters who may use it in wiring thier studioes. 73 Alan Quoting Rick Brashear [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Does anyone have a good source for 8 conductor shielded cable as used to connect the BC-614 speech amplifier to the BC-610 transmitter? I'm sure the regular sources will have it, but I am curious if anyone has a more reasonably priced outlet. I am in need of about 20'. Thanks, Rick/K5IZ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, maybe not, but it's not your problem. If his audio equipment is responding to your transmissions then HIS equipment is malfunctioning, not yours. Dennis, I respectfully disagree - in a lot of cases, taking a pro-active tack can mean the difference between 'happy hamming' and bad feelings, lawsuits and neighborhood retaliation. If GuitarMan has all that gear, maybe he'd like to have someone nearby with some electronic chops would be able to help him with a little soldering, or tube test / replacement. Then, the Ham can offer to install capacitors or toroids - if TVI does occur. At any rate, one gets to be on friendly terms with one's nearby folk. Works both ways in this case, too - GuitarMan might be more inclined to watch his rehearsal levels if he thinks he's going to bother 'my electronic buddy next door' - but consider the case where it turns out like you've described - the transmitter gets into all those stompboxes, complaints are made, Ham tells GuitarMan to go pound sand, it's your equipment design, go complain to Boss and Roland and Yamaha... well, you can extrapolate the rest. Kind of speaks to The Amateur is a Gentleman... Just my 200 millidollar Cheers John KB6SCO
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
Considering the possible noise you might hear, you might want your equipment to talk to his. If it does, it would be best to explain how to rid himself of the strange voices on his guitar amps. Whatever you do, don't work on it for him. You buy troubles for ever. 73 Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up Hi gang, I have a neighbour about 150 feet away from the end of my dipole, not broadside. He is not currently active with his electric guitars, but soon will be. He has all sorts of foot pedals wired in series to a couple of amplifiers at each end of his music room. I feel it is interference waiting to happen. Does anyone have any experience with this? Am I to expect to QRM him? 73, Alan __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
I would give him a bunch of literature on the use of ferrites and maybe a sample and a list of suppliers and let him solve the problem. 73, Larry K2LT I feel it is interference waiting to happen. Does anyone have any experience with this? Am I to expect to QRM him? Alan, Maybe, maybe not, but it's not your problem. If his audio equipment is responding to your transmissions then HIS equipment is malfunctioning, not yours. Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA
Re: [AMRadio] K1MAN thread of discussion
Excellent comments Don - I learn more about all of this with these discussions. It is too easy to draw a simplistic conclusion and write everybody off in simple terms when you read bits and pieces about these conflicts between K1MAN and others, as well as other conflicts within hamdom. There DOES seem to be an element of obstinacy and ego that runs throughout a lot of it. I seem to observe many hams - often in the 40 to 60 year-old age groupo that display all of the maturity of third grade bullies on the school yard! You are right - Brian Sherrod seems to be behaving way over-protectively. MOderators need to just let some of this stuff go even if it is a little exciting for some folks. We will never LEARN or reason things through together if offenses against controversy are continually allowed to trump free speech! 73s - Brian, AF4K From: Brian Sherrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does any of this K1MAN/W1AW stuff have to do with AM discussion? Let's get back on track here folks. Actually, there is a connection with the AM community that hits some raw nerves, besides the longtime QRM to the AM window caused by his 3890 kc bulletins. Back in the 1980's during the FCC's AM power proceeding, K1MAN filed a lawsuit in federal court challenging the FCC's decision. There was supposed to have been a 7-year grandfather period under the old power rule, after which the FCC had promised to reconsider, if there is any justification to do so. During a discussion of the issue with ARRL officials, Dave Sumner mentioned that K1MAN's lawsuit had hardened the FCC's position, and he thought it would be very difficult to get them to change their minds at that point. When they went to court, Baxter totally blew the case, according to other AM'ers in attendance. He acted as his own attorney, and during the court proceedings got completely sidetracked onto some tangent about his disaster relief efforts with I.A.R.N. following the Mexico City earthquake (which had absolutely nothing to do with the AM power issue). The judge ruled in favor of the FCC, saying that the court was routinely deferring to the expertise of the regulatory agency (the FCC). Afterwards, I attended an FCC Forum at Dayton, where Johnny Johnston was presiding at the Q-A session. I posed the question, if the FCC was planning to follow up on its stated commitment to reconsider the AM power issue at the end of the grandfather period, in 1990. Johnston's reply: You took us to court, remember? When I pointed out that it was K1MAN who took the FCC to court, Johnston's replay was, As far as I'm concerned, it was the amateur community who took us to court. That's an issue that got caught up in 'circumstances'. The historic AM power limit may have very well fallen victim to a petty ego struggle between Johnston and his hinchmen at the FCC, and K1MAN. I've already had two people leave the list today. If someone left the list over something so trivial as that one thread of discussion, they must be pretty thin-skinned. I doubt if they were contributing very much anyway. We're probably better off without them. Is the delete button broken on their computer? Don K4KYV ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
I've never had any problems with my Fender 'silver face' Super reverb but then... It's an old tube amp... and I only use a 'fuzzface' and a 'Wahwah'... Most likely this would be solid state stuff... but perhaps not... What kind of amps are being used??? 73 vince ka1iic On Tuesday 04 April 2006 08:22 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi gang, I have a neighbour about 150 feet away from the end of my dipole, not broadside. He is not currently active with his electric guitars, but soon will be. He has all sorts of foot pedals wired in series to a couple of amplifiers at each end of his music room. I feel it is interference waiting to happen. Does anyone have any experience with this? Am I to expect to QRM him? 73, Alan __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] K1MAN thread of discussion
Correct as usual Don... Kudos! 73 vince ka1iic On Tuesday 04 April 2006 06:31 pm, Donald Chester wrote: From: Brian Sherrod [EMAIL PROTECTED] What does any of this K1MAN/W1AW stuff have to do with AM discussion? Let's get back on track here folks. Actually, there is a connection with the AM community that hits some raw nerves, besides the longtime QRM to the AM window caused by his 3890 kc bulletins. Back in the 1980's during the FCC's AM power proceeding, K1MAN filed a lawsuit in federal court challenging the FCC's decision. There was supposed to have been a 7-year grandfather period under the old power rule, after which the FCC had promised to reconsider, if there is any justification to do so. During a discussion of the issue with ARRL officials, Dave Sumner mentioned that K1MAN's lawsuit had hardened the FCC's position, and he thought it would be very difficult to get them to change their minds at that point. When they went to court, Baxter totally blew the case, according to other AM'ers in attendance. He acted as his own attorney, and during the court proceedings got completely sidetracked onto some tangent about his disaster relief efforts with I.A.R.N. following the Mexico City earthquake (which had absolutely nothing to do with the AM power issue). The judge ruled in favor of the FCC, saying that the court was routinely deferring to the expertise of the regulatory agency (the FCC). Afterwards, I attended an FCC Forum at Dayton, where Johnny Johnston was presiding at the Q-A session. I posed the question, if the FCC was planning to follow up on its stated commitment to reconsider the AM power issue at the end of the grandfather period, in 1990. Johnston's reply: You took us to court, remember? When I pointed out that it was K1MAN who took the FCC to court, Johnston's replay was, As far as I'm concerned, it was the amateur community who took us to court. That's an issue that got caught up in 'circumstances'. The historic AM power limit may have very well fallen victim to a petty ego struggle between Johnston and his hinchmen at the FCC, and K1MAN. I've already had two people leave the list today. If someone left the list over something so trivial as that one thread of discussion, they must be pretty thin-skinned. I doubt if they were contributing very much anyway. We're probably better off without them. Is the delete button broken on their computer? Don K4KYV ___ This message was typed using the DVORAK keyboard layout. Try it - you'll like it. http://www.mwbrooks.com/dvorak/ http://gigliwood.com/abcd/ __ AMRadio mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/amradio Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html Post: mailto:AMRadio@mailman.qth.net AMfone Website: http://www.amfone.net AM List Admin: Brian Sherrod/w5ami, Paul Courson/wa3vjb
Re: [AMRadio] K1MAN thread of discussion
IMHO I think there is a division within the various radio reflector groups. Those, like myself, who want reflectors to be used as a conduit for technical problems, part sourcing, etc. and others who want to air political issues relating to the hobby. By no means am I trivializing the political aspect but when I'm having fun reading through threads of technical topics I am quickly brought back to the real world with the insertion of message threads on operating practices and other similar topics.. Many time these start reading like yes it is, no it isn't, yes it is, no it isn't and on and on. We have enough exposure to dreary world issues without bringing more to worry about while we are in our escape frame of mind doing radio. I would like to see a Ham radio reflector created just to air those kind of topics. We then can have a choice if we want to be part of that experience. Thanks for listening, Tom K3TVC
[AMRadio] Aluminum cap cans
While conducting an archeolical dig (in my workshop) recently, (And yes, I was right, it does have a floor; I found it) I came upon some largish aluminum electrolytic caps. They have been used, but look new. Somewhere in the past I think I was told not to throw those away because some folks like to cut them open and stuff new caps inside. So, anyone want them for shipping? 73, Barrie, W7ALW
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
I definitely have to agree with Jim and Dennis on this one. Don't go looking for trouble and definitely don't work on his equipment. Make suggestions, external filters, qualified service technician, etc. Lots of info floating around the web. Back end of my property butts up against the back property of a local bar. Friday and Saturday nights, for the last 20 years or so, they generally have some local 2 or 3 piece band (generally guitar, drums, washboard, etc.) come in. My 160, 75, and 40 meter inverted vees run broadside to the bar and are roughly 75 to 80 feet from the bar. Running about 100 to 150 watts on AM and up to a 1KW on SSB, plus up to 500 watts PEP on 6 meters (7 element long boom on the tower facing them), I've never had a complaint from them. Unfortunately the drum thumping is heard throughout my house and their electronic registers, game machines, stacked high TV's radiate tons of junk back to my receivers from 160 to 2 meters most of the time Pete, wa2cwa On Tue, 4 Apr 2006 20:04:14 -0500 Jim Wilhite [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Considering the possible noise you might hear, you might want your equipment to talk to his. If it does, it would be best to explain how to rid himself of the strange voices on his guitar amps. Whatever you do, don't work on it for him. You buy troubles for ever. 73 Jim W5JO - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Discussion of AM Radio amradio@mailman.qth.net Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 7:22 PM Subject: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up Hi gang, I have a neighbour about 150 feet away from the end of my dipole, not broadside. He is not currently active with his electric guitars, but soon will be. He has all sorts of foot pedals wired in series to a couple of amplifiers at each end of his music room. I feel it is interference waiting to happen. Does anyone have any experience with this? Am I to expect to QRM him? 73, Alan
[AMRadio] Why Convert CB to 10?
To me, that question is kind of like Why run military gear? Of course, one reason is because it's fun. However, the better CB rigs, especially the older classic models, will blow the HTX10, etc right off the table when it comes to receiver and transmitter specs other than perhaps power and frequency tuning steps. Mike Duke, K5XU American Council of Blind Radio Amateurs
Re: [AMRadio] possible interference coming up
In a message dated 4/4/06 6:03:48 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 4 Apr 2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe, maybe not, but it's not your problem. If his audio equipment is responding to your transmissions then HIS equipment is malfunctioning, not yours. Dennis, I respectfully disagree - in a lot of cases, taking a pro-active tack can mean the difference between 'happy hamming' and bad feelings, lawsuits and neighborhood retaliation. John, I stand by my original statement. Now, whether or not to help the other guy out is another matter and would depend on the surrounding circumstances, most importantly the attitude of the complaining party. In the past I've usually tried the proactive approach as you call it but with little success, sorry to say. The usual response I've encountered is something along the line of ...my (expensive) stuff was working just fine until you came along, so shut your junk off now! followed by out-and-out refusals to let me anywhere close to their TV, telephone, Hi Fi, etc. I even offered several interference free telephones to one guy who refused to even give them a try (I don't want your damm phones!). If the guy's wife is your wife's best friend ya gotta play nice, of course. Ditto if he's your landlord, boss, your minister, etc., but I personally wouldn't touch anyone's expensive music and/or entertainment systems. Dennis D. W7QHO Glendale, CA
