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the main reason they have given for calling the CWG song a failure is that it isn't downloaded as much as Waka Waka. What a childish and immature argument that is! truly gives a general idea of people working in the media and in politics. if only they had enough brain cells to process a simple fact that Waka Waka was done by a hugely popular artiste for the biggest sporting event in the world, they'd have learned not to compare these two songs.
[arr] MARO MARO(break the rules) CWG
Hello Arr Vibrations, MARO MARO(break the rules) from BOYS would have been perfect tune for CWG theme, i feel he should have reused the same tune, it's gr song. eveybody would have kept MUM. Srinivas B
Re: [arr] CWG song waka waka
@ Bhagavathi Mohan : i waz comming to the same one .. Herez de original version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3qYVYMj6iI Am not finding fault with Shakira now . Taking a song and improvising waz not de job dat waz given to ARR. Nd i don think ARR sir told we r going beyond waka waka !!!
[arr] classical/carnatic/hindustani/melody list- please add
Dear friends I would like to make a list of arr songs as per subject theme 1) Kaiyil Midhakum 2) sowkiyama 6) Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7) Narumugaiye 8) lukka chupi 9) Azhage Sugama 10) Nila Kaigiradhu 11) ennavale 12) jiya jale 13) margazhi poove 14) puthu vellai mazhai 15) kwajha mere kwajha 16) --- On Tue, 8/31/10, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:38 PM Great reading AJ! i tend to agree that the breathing space in songs is a little less nowadays...Also simple and catchy melody/tune is losing prominence to probably complicated song structure making it difficult to hum or remember the tunesCan anyone suggest why this is happening??...is this intended to be his signature or is Rahman just pushing himself too hard and experimenting to create a whole new dimension in global music... But I am not saying his complex tunes are not good in quality...they are absolutely marvellous in quality and making one introspect his music much more...and making us think a lot! Some of his best melodies are simple tune with minimal arrangements...Listen to the following to to understand what I am trying to say!This is a random list that came to my mind :) 1)En Mel Vizhundha 2)Athankarai Marame 3)Uyirum neeye 4)Kaiyil Midhakum 5)Rasaathi 6)Kannukku Mai Azhagu 7)Narumugaiye 8)Porale Ponnuthayi (Sad) 9)Azhage Sugama 10)Nila Kaigiradhu --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there.
[arr] IS CWG theme song been made again?
guys many internet articles have the news that A R RAHMAN have been asked to make the theme song again is it true?
[arr] Help about a Tamil song [1 Attachment]
Can anyone please let me know if the attached Tamil song is ARR's?? A friend of mine ripped it from some video and from melody/instruments he thinks it is ARR's. Anyone? If it is ARR's, which album is it from? (though I doubt as I have all his Tamil collection). If no, who is the composer and which film it is from? My friend and I don't understand Tamil therefore cannot google by lyrics. Thanks. /Jahanzeb
Re: [arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice
also u can add 11. zikr 12. mustafa 13. theeyil vizhinda thena - godfather 14. mannippaya 15. jare ur jare/naan varuven 16. --- On Tue, 8/31/10, yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com wrote: From: yeshrao81 yeshra...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] top 10 songs from arr's own voice To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 7:10 PM 3 days back I was on a train journey during a night...I had my iPOD and headphones and decided to try those songs that were sung only by ARR rahmanMan what a night it wasunforgettable tunes and great arrangements...to top it all it was the voice that was the signature of these songsGive it a try. My rankings of the top 10 songs would be: 1)New York Nagaram 2)Vellai Pookal 3)Tere Bina 4)Dil Se Re 5)Ye Jo Desh 6)Khwaja Mere 7)Humma Humma 8)Vande Mataram 9)Meherbaan 10)Rehna Tu Each song displays emotion in voice that only ARR can bring in front of the mic!
[arr] Re: MARO MARO(break the rules) CWG
Then thr wud b anodr section of guys comin out nd blamin him for reusing it Lets just njoy the song ... Everybody is entitled to his/her opinion ... so let them say wat they feel... But wats makin me angry is wat these politicians r talkin abt ... Rahul --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Vasu srinivas.bhu...@... wrote: Hello Arr Vibrations, MARO MARO(break the rules) from BOYS would have been perfect tune for CWG theme, i feel he should have reused the same tune, it's gr song. eveybody would have kept MUM. Srinivas B
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Slow poison it is... the song is really good. From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:12:20 AM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.com wrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense. So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey ! ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr]: yeh Delhi hein mere yaar for CWG
LOL, so much of opinions ! On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 1:47 PM, kiran injeti kiraninj...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Rahmaniacs, Was just wondering if CWG committee can try to use Delhi-6 title track (yeh delhi hein mere yaar) at the promotions, hotels, stadiums, etc alongwith the CWG anthem. Although it already sounds international, they can ask ARR to provide a english only version or something similar. Sure that it would sound catchy enough for visiting foreigners and is quite relevant for the locals as well. Regards, Kiran I K -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
ofcourse it is. irumbile oru idhayam is stupendous and chitti dance showcase is an instrumental masterpiece. romantic interlude in it is awesome. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jon ta.busin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. *Cool * *Jon*
Re: [arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic
I agree. I like the CWG song. It's not his best but is nice, definitely not bad at all. Not sure why people always rush to conclude that ARR song after first few listens and that too low quality video/audio. Cheers, From: vimaljk vima...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 8:41:48 AM Subject: [arr] the CWG theme is rousing, trilling, spectacular and epic very eclecticcatchydelivers the goodsall the detractors do is show how many people in India have horrible music taste!...hahaif this were made anywhere else, people would recognize its brilliance
Re: [arr] Rahman magic on the wane, say music lovers
She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music The extent they go to is unimaginable. the one thing that he was not accused of till now. Now that they couldnt find anything else, here it is. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 9:36 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: let me bookmark this article. i cant restrict to think that media is highlighting negative reviews just to make sure ARR doesnt create another vande mataram. but wait and c. their back side will burn after history is created. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, SaiRam K ram4frie...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/rahman-magic-wane-say-music-lovers-415 Hyderabad/Chennai, Aug. 28: The theme song for the Commonwealth Games Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto, composed by A.R. Rahman received mixed reviews from music lovers. “I usually like Rahman’s songs. I heard him sing the song and it was like any other song. I guess he is slowly losing his flavour. Shakira has her own sex appeal and Waka Waka was catchy. Of late, people are liking whatever he does for the brand he is rather than the music he composes,” said Raghu, an upcoming playback singer. “I had lots of expectations from his CWG composition. I just heard a bit of it and it is just average. I felt I heard similar songs before. I don’t know if he is overworked or saturated but Rahman’s touch is waning,” said a senior music composer on condition of anonymity. Music director Radhakrishna, who had not liked a couple of the songs composed by Rahman in his last Telugu film Em Maya Chesave, said, “He is singing this song and surely knows he will get a lot of publicity out of this event. The song will be downloaded and played by the media several times. Even if it is not that great, people will start liking it as television and radio stations will play it again and again. Rahman’s show in the city was a flop when he came here. It’s not that everything he composes is great.” Singer Anuj Gurwara, who heard the song online, said that it would be some time before people liked the song. “It is a typical Rahman number and will take time to grow on you. Initially people might think it is just an average composition but I will still wait for a few more weeks to see the public reaction,” he said. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman’s image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. “His songs of late are not what they were and the CWG one is no exception. I felt his song for CWG was so similar to what he did before. Comparing himself to Shakira is a joke. She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music. However, Kollywood, Rahman’s home industry, backed him up saying the music is very typical of Rahman. Ramya, popular DJ and TV anchor, said, “Most ARR compositions would be a bit unusual and difficult to understand in the beginning; only by repeated listening will we start liking them. That’s what happened even with his latest Enthiran music. Nobody liked the music on the first day of the CD release but now people are going gaga over it.” But, software professional Vikram Mohan, 28, however, said that the score did not strike a chord with him. “The tune was not catchy and seems eminently forgettable. Compared to Shakira’s Waka Waka and other sports anthems, Rahman’s composition falls flat,” he said. -- Wit beyond measure is mans greatest treasure
Re: [arr]
m curious to know too. can anyone throw some light on this please? On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 3:42 PM, || V i s h w e s h || vishws...@yahoo.comwrote: Who is Sajid Patel? * *The *search* is more important than the destination - a r rahman - -- *From:* Bergin Roy ber...@berginroy.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Tue, 31 August, 2010 7:40:12 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] hahahaha :) VERY VERY TRUE I'm sure AR will dust off these comments and be moving forward. Bergin On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://twitter.com/SarkarSaj/status/22602078214 -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ???
Actually hindi is NOT the national language of India it's the princial official language (for govt. administration etc.)India has MANY national languages actually.. this is from Wikipedia: The principal official language of the Republic of India is Standard Hindi, while English is the secondary official language.[2] The constitution of India states that The official language of the Union shall be Hindi in Devanagari script.[3] Neither the Constitution of India nor Indian law specifies a National language, a position supported by a High Court ruling.[4] However, languages listed in the Eighth Schedule of the Indian constitution are sometimes referred to, without legal standing, as the national languages of India.[5][6] --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/31/2010 10:51 AM India Time, _::: rahmanian :::_ wrote: Why CWG Theme Song was also not in English Version ?? Because India's national language is Hindi. Commonwealth of Nations includes Big members like.. Australia, Bangladesh, Canada, Ghana, Nigeria, South Africa, United Kingdom etc.. Since 2010 CWG event to be held in INDIA, the song was in our National Language.. But even the song should be in English version too.. so that it ll reach all over the world.. i know Music has No Boundary.. but Language has.. So it's better to release in English too.. otherwise there is no meaning of comparing it with 'waka waka'. I am not aware, could anyone tell me whether waka was released in other languages, or whether other theme songs in India, like Ath Swagatam shubh swagatam of asiad 84 was released in any other language? -- Rawat
Re: [arr] Govt doesn`t like CWG theme song
i bet the gentleman, whomever it is, wouldn't have heard waka waka even once. if he heard it, he wouldn't have uttered those meaningless words. both songs cater to the youth and/or current generation. one wouldnt expect their grandparents to like songs like these as their minds are tuned to 'mile sur mera tumhara' though i would argue ARRs CWG anthem is universal and would cater to everyone irrespective of age, old mundle heads will not like it . i dont blame them. problem is, instead of voicing their opinion to the committee or whatever it be, people want to blow the bubble to the blunt media for telepresence. insanity. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 4:17 PM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: hmm.. so it has reached that far. if they didn't like the song, then why did they approve ? i seriously hope that he withdraws that song and use it in his album or anywhere else that it will be suitable. it is such a great song and don't deserve to be criticized with such harsh words. i am so worried for his reputation... if this whole thing turn out to be an utter mess, AR will also get the partial blame. people will start remembering him as the person who ruined CWG theme song and will foget everything about oscar and grammy's. I can't believe these people. how difficult is it to work together at least for one event to make it a success rather than making it as a platform to blame one another! this is what I hate the most about our country. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:11 AM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: http://www.zeenews.com/video/showvideo7970.html -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
Trying too hard at what, Gomzy? And yeah, maybe I was expecting a different flavor. Like I said, I'm warming up to it slowly. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Pramod pramod...@... wrote: @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy gomtesh.upad...@... wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_raghu@ wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
I am form the cairbbean, just observing the debate. I think all the statements bbeing made are not inspired by the music at all but the politics. The song has become a political issue. It is a brilliant song. People were expecting it to some how solve the problems that india found itself into with the hosting of the commonwealth games. At the smae time opposition supporters are critisiing it for policial purposes. People wanted something like waka waka. Waka waka has its identity, this song has its own. If it was comparable to waka waka, i am sure that people would have said that it was a waka waka rip off. At this stage, you cant please everyone. At the same time, a 5.5 c pricetag for one song is alot, regardless of if the song is a hit or not. From: Pramod pramod...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 12:31:43 PM Subject: Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired? @ purevibz You have a very valid point there The Head vs Heart issue might be quite true.. @ shai listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it That is exactly the issue !!! Most critics acknowledge that the song is exceptional. but they say it isn't in perfect sync with the CWG... On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:37 AM, Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com wrote: i completely disagree. Since i like this like any good ARR song, i believe either you were expecting something else or are trying too hard. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Raghu arr_ra...@... wrote: i do not think price tag is any issue here.. 5.5 is not a thing compared to overall some 10,000k + --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, shai nbk4692@ wrote: guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun . -- www.gomzyphotography.com -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr]problems with the CWG song - did ARR feel truly inspired?
No need to take, offense buddy. I have found many of your posts in the past to be offensive too as you often take things to a personal level with other members including me. I was just speculating, not analyzing. You should know the difference. This is a place to post thoughts freely, right? Inspiration is a human state of mind and in degrees. AR is human and he will be inspired in degrees, no matter which project he works on. That's all. Nothing is happening to my analytical abilities, Rawat. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: I wonder what is happening to your analytical capabilities, AJ. You propose a theory that ARR worked hard and perhaps worked too hard, and then you base your remaining analysis on this, without knowing if it is correct on not. If you don't like it, it doesn't mean that ARR worked hard or too hard or hardly. All those critics of enthiran can also say the same, that ARR worked too hard on enthiran, without knowing whether he had or not. I wonder how could you not see that vandemataram is our national song, and people have a chord attached to it, so we were already willing to someone giving us our national song in the cacophony of other MDs who never bothered about nation. That helped in people liking it. Vandemataram was in two albums, including janganman, and there were several versions of it in them, so it was not just one composition by ARR. someone might have liked one, other one might have disliked the version the first one liked but might have liked the other one and so on, and thus album had one likeable version for each of all. Tamil theme song, gujarat theme song, 20-20 theme song, it is not the first theme song that ARR had done, so why whould he not grasp all those patriotic and other elements in this particular theme song when he got them all always in other theme songs in right proportions? You are working on theories that might not be your forte and you are be aware of facts. You should analyze the song musically as you have musical knowledge and past proven capability to do that. I personally find did ARR feel truly inspired? is very offensive and accusing. -- Rawat On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 7:15 AM, AJ purev...@... mailto:purev...@... wrote: I really think ARR worked hard on this song, but perhaps worked too hard, if you know what I mean? His best songs are created when they are from his heart more than from his head. Was he really inspired to do a theme song about sports, since I know that ARR was never a passionate sports fan and didn't follow teams much as a youngster? Maa Tujhe Salam and the entire Vande Mataram album was ARR's baby because it was about India as a country..about the 50th anniversary and the whole significance of that. ARR, as a very patriotic citizen, felt very inspired to create a whole album in honor of that. In this case, he was asked to compose this song. Yes, it's a patriotic song too, but not in the same emotional league as Vande Mataram from ARR's perspective. It's not fair to compare Maa Tujhe Salam with this song for these reasons alone IMO. I may be wrong about the above..just speculating here.
Re: [arr] Help about a Tamil song
Hi, This is not a Tamil song instead, the language is *'Malayalam'*. Here are the details of the song: *Song: Karimizhi kuruviye kandeela, nin chirimani chilaboli ketteela.* *Music Director: Vidyasagar* *Lyrics: (Late) Girish Puthenchery* ** *Singers: Prathap Chandran, Sujatha Mohan* *Movie: Meesha Madhavan (2002)* Vidyasagar is quite popular a music director here in the south. He had won the National Award for Best Music Director in 2005 for his score in a 'Telugu' movie named 'Swarabhishekam'. Read more about him in his wiki page at the followng address: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vidyasagar_(music_director) Warm regards, Pramod. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:45 PM, Jahanzeb Tippu jahanzebti...@yahoo.comwrote: [Attachment(s)https://mail.google.com/mail/html/compose/static_files/blank_quirks.html#12aca006c30bb948_TopTextfrom Jahanzeb Tippu included below] Can anyone please let me know if the attached Tamil song is ARR's?? A friend of mine ripped it from some video and from melody/instruments he thinks it is ARR's. Anyone? If it is ARR's, which album is it from? (though I doubt as I have all his Tamil collection). If no, who is the composer and which film it is from? My friend and I don't understand Tamil therefore cannot google by lyrics. Thanks. /Jahanzeb -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
There are a number of ARR's songs which tend to take time to grown on you, but this one is an exception, at least for me. I just fell in love with the song the moment I first heard it. It has a great blend of carribean, western and Indian music. The increase of tempo was done gradually and tastefully, with the highest tempo saved for the last few seconds. It was absolutely delighful to hear the number! This brings me to the two questions that was running through my mind while reading the criritcms on the song. 1) Wasn't this song inspiring and passionate? I personally felt it was the right song for Commonwealth- in fact, I even feel like participating in the games after listening to the number. It has the right tempo, the right punch, the right feel that you would want to hear from a sports theme song, doesn't it? Someone once said that ARR would have composed a better song if only he was given more time. I disagree. I always believed that ARR gives his best regardless of how long/short the time given to him. And this time too, I believe that ARR has given his best-the song is superb! 2) Comparison with Waka Waka First of all let me confess, I love waka waka but I still don't understand why anyone wants to compare waka waka with CWG theme. In fact, I don't know why the topic of comparison only arise when ARR composes a number. I don't think anyone would have compared Shakira with Anastacia's Boom or Ricky Martin's The Cup of Life -and Martin's song was a huge hit when it was released! Personally, I don't know what people were expecting? Are they genuinely looking for ARR to pull of a Waka Waka? Or even a Maa Tujhe Salam? Someone here mentioned that they were hoping for a number in the lines of Maro Maro. I'm seriously glad ARR hasn't done any of that. CWG is wonderful and fresh as it is. Then again, I also don't think waka waka was cheesy or that Shakira would be finished if ARR had pulled a better number. In fact, I felt so offended when such comments are passed on Shakira and her song. When are we going to stop putting other artists down in order to praise ARR? Doesn't ARR's work speaks for themselves? --- On Tue, 8/31/10, Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com wrote: From: Arr Fan arr...@rocketmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Tuesday, August 31, 2010, 1:34 PM Slow poison it is... the song is really good. From: Gomzy™ gomtesh.upad...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tue, August 31, 2010 6:12:20 AM Subject: Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!! Did you guys observe the sound quality ? I mean the engineering. It has been better than endhiran and puli. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 9:38 AM, Suresh Jayakumar suresh6...@yahoo.com wrote: The song has all the ingredients of a slow poison, in a good sense.So far I am liking it. Ppl are comparing this one to waka waka which was more cheesey !ARR is beyond such cheesy stuff... I like to listen ARR music in my MEElectronics M6 earphone..it's really punchy and fun.. Especially endhiran songs.. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 30, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.com wrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.gomzyphotography.com
Re: [arr] Re: ARR's theme song didn't strike me
hmmm. I'm tired reading/replying all these messages, news... i want to leave this behind now... We know what AR is capable of... there is a tamil proverb 'Thootruvor thootrattum...' Save energy to write/discuss on some good stuff well... When is Endhiren movie releasing? and when is Jhoota hi sahi releasing??? Let's move on... Cheers, Bergin On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:33 PM, diya ganguly_d...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I agree! I like the start of the song and basically all the solo ARR lines. But overall feel the magic is missing! Don't find the refrain catchy enough. Maybe ARR himself has molded my taste in such a way that I find it difficult to appreciate over simplistic tunes. His singing is superb though, it's easily the best thing about the song in my opinion. Comparisons with Maa Tujhe Salaam are inevitable, which is the reason some people are disappointed by the song. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, AJ purev...@... wrote: I gave it a few listens, but I honestly didn't find it too appealing. I did appreciate the musical creativity and the mood that AR tried to capture in this song, but I couldn't connect with it much. Perhaps this is a grower, but for now, I am not bowled over. Rahman's theme songs in recent times haven't impressed me much musically or emotionally in general, though I appreciate the effort behind them. -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM
Hi All Maniacs of RAHMAN, Its always been like this. I made it a point long time ago to not to comment anything up untill I listen to ARRji's new composition for atleast a month or more than that. Its like a SLOW POISON. I am sure the veteran RAHMANIACS would agree to this. Regards P'ARR'THA. --- On Wed, 1/9/10, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: From: Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [arr] ENDHIRAN IS A MINDBLOWING ALBUM To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday, 1 September, 2010, 2:14 AM ofcourse it is. irumbile oru idhayam is stupendous and chitti dance showcase is an instrumental masterpiece. romantic interlude in it is awesome. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Jon ta.busin...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi Guys, Iam writing this after listening to this album for a month. This is a treasure to keep. And one of ARR's best. Everytime i keep the lyrics and listen to the album it gets better and find something new to cherish. Hats off to ARR. Music has no boundries, and this album proves it. Iam thoroughly enjoying every moment of it. Cool Jon
[arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-)
oh yeah.. this is a wonderful song.. full of energy, perfectly paced.. it is melodious and innovative too..it kept growing. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: The song is brilliant. I started loving it after repeated hearing on a headphone. - magic works for me, can't stop playing it again again now!!! From: jarjar jayram...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 1:28:04 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) Takkar Song... As they say in Tamil takkar means superb song. Great beat, melody and superb mix of traditional instruments too. I am sure this is going to rock India for some time... Thanks ARR Sir... Anyone anyone.. please post the translation !! please !!! Jai Ho, Jayram
Re: [arr] Re: ARR songs that have reached the deepest since 2005
Yupp. That is quite an earful. Why were you not telling till now that you liked so many songs. They are great. I don't know about tamil ones. A R RAHMAN music my love , no matter how much critical i be , i love him to the core. Yes. That's that point of convergence for us all here. Only that, we can be as much critical of a song and an album as we wish, but generalising our dislike an album to ARR has lost is does hurt a lot of people here, so we should use a bit restraint while criticizing. Enjoy. rawat On 8/29/2010 11:50 PM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: hey AJ , Rawat , take it easy guys but here i present you the list of songs that i loved after 2005. Hindi albums khalbali a wonderful song AY hairathe ashiqui the best hindi song of A R RAHMAN in 5 years ayo re sakhi santoor blows me away shma rang me unfathomable feeling bangri marori unfathomable feeling in lamhon ke daman mein ( instrumental fast) give me absolute bliss KATA KATA PRECUSSION is deadly TAMIL Valayapaati thavile ( a life time song, the best by A R RAHMAN AFTER 2005) kelamal kayile saindhavi voice and twists in the middle MY goodness MADHURIKKE all happy song nee marlyn monroe the stylish song elay youthful energetic very rhythmic violins too good i miss you da that ever shifting technology music ah loved it marudaani typical ARR sound Sahana high n lows loved in the songs Omana penne nathaswaram superb innisai brilliant kamma kariyle (exceptional drum work) balleilakka hats off i hope you are satisfied now guys . A R RAHMAN music my love , no matter how much critical i be , i love him to the core. regards, taimur --- On *Sun, 8/29/10, AJ /purev...@yahoo.com/* wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Re: ARR songs that have reached the deepest since 2005 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sunday, August 29, 2010, 3:16 PM Rawat, You made a lot of sense here. I agree with what you said. Taimur, you are free to choose what you like and not like, but I honestly feel that if you cannot like an album like D6 or Raavan, your chances of being happy with future ARR albums will be quite low. I am glad I am not in your position. Also, I never mentioned as a rule that you only have to choose songs from my list. I only listed the songs that touched me. Why didn't you choose songs that touched you independent of my list? Why did you want to make it a point to show that you are so critical of ARR's Hindi works that you only listed one song in the last 5 years that you enjoyed? But, later, you mentioned Chan Chan and Shyam that you liked from Water. Any more that you forgot to mention? So, what is it man? --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com http://us.mc1144.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, V S Rawat vsra...@... wrote: On 8/29/2010 2:50 AM India Time, _Taimur Nadeem_ wrote: well i liked three songs from water , the best being Ayo re sakhi than sham rang and than bangari marori. the others songs just not there. I am dumbfounded that anyone can NOT like Piya Ho. ARR had put such a unique feeling in that song, so touching, so genuine that even even ARR has not used in any of his other 1000+ songs. nearest was probably Manchandre but that too sounds too farmaishi show off when compared with Piya Ho. and i choose those three from AJ's list. otherwise i liked many in tamil but very little in hindi. His list has many tamil songs also, but it seems you didn't like those particular ones and might have liked others. I wudn't be much help in discussion on tamil songs, but I think it will help u regain confidence in ARR if you put efforts to make his list of tamil songs that you liked. You mentioned total three, you could have off hand recalled 5-10 more at least that you liked. I personally felt offended for a moment that you just mentioned 3 songs that you liked. I can mention many more than three songs of Anu Malik, Nadeem Sharavan, Anand Milind, SEL, Vishal1, Vishal2, and most of the MDs that I like. I feel like saying that if you can't even like 1 song a year from ARR, you should rethink why you remain a fan of him? You should move on to other MDs that you like. It is OK. It happens that we stop clicking with someone and start clicking with other ones. We should not let our old habit stagnate us without pleasure. After all that is how, I mean by moving on from other previous MDs to ARR, we had come to become fan of ARR in the first place. Another aspect is that ARR's fan based likes, loves, adores D6, Ravan type of music
[arr] Do non-growing songs also endure?
ARR is known to give songs that one might not like in first hearings but they grow and are eventually liked for a long time, maybe forever. I am thinking about the songs that don't need to grow, meaning you liked them in the first few hearings or maybe even in the very first hearing. Do these songs also endure. Do you keep on liking it for a long time or forever. Or do only growing songs stay with you whereas such instantly likeable wither out faster? Please mention the songs that you liked it almost instantly and you still like them. Meaning, they didn't need to grow on you. For me, Sathiya would be an album that I had liked on the first hearing itself and I still like it. Who can not like Chupke Se in the first hearing. Any more? which ones for you? Rawat
Re: [arr] ♫.♫..♫...♫ Rahmanji Rocks Coimbatore ♫...♫..♫.♫
HI, Watched the video.awesome performanceapt steps..nice than original. Vinoo From: ::: rahmanian ::: krrajkuma...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, 29 August, 2010 11:15:03 AM Subject: [arr] ♫.♫..♫...♫ Rahmanji Rocks Coimbatore ♫...♫..♫.♫ Hi, i'm frm Coimbatore.. i just want to share my happy moments.. Since My Friend(Girl) participated in Inter School College Dance Competition 2010 held @ R.S.Puram Kalaiaragam, Coimbatore Yesterday (28-AUG-2010).. i went(to watch) support her.. offcourse she is also Rahmanji fan.. Her group danced for 'Kata Kata' frm 'Raavan'.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoC2uZJtJR0 The Big Surprise is, almost all the college students danced for Rahmanji songs.. Some School Students College Students performed for 'Robo Chitti Dance Showcase' frm 'Endhiran'. it was amazing to hear it in High Bass Sound. All most 90% songs were Rahmanji's.. Azeem-O-Shaan Shahenshah - Jodha Akbar Maiya Maiya - Guru (A Girl got First prize for this song in solo categ.) Chinna Chinna Aasai - Roja Konchum Nilavu - Thiruda Thiruda No Problem - Love Birds Kappaleri Poyaachu - Indian Poo Pookkum - Minsara Kanavu Taal Se Taal Mila - Taal Fanna - Aaiyutha Azhuthu Ellaappugazhum - A T M Vellai Pookkal - Kanathil Muthamital Monalisa Monalisa - Mr.Romeo Vandhe Matharam Hosanna - Vinnai Thaandi Varuvaaya Boom Boom Robo Da - Endhiran Chitti Dance Showcase - Endhiran Especially one School Group(above 10 yrs) performed for 'Tamil Semmozhi Manadu Anthem'.. Amazing performance by them.. Last but not Least.. JAI HO - 60 % participant fusion songs ends with JAI HO.. And lot more songs.. but i didn't remember bcoz of tiredness i went in morning 11 planned to return @ 1'o clock.. But Surprisingly, Rahmanji song came one after another.. so i stayed ther till 10.30pm.. i danced n shouted wth my frnds to all Rahmanji Songs.. After 11 and half hours only i felt Hungry n Tiredness.. The whole program ll be telecast in Channel One Kaavya from 06-SEP-2010 at every 10pm to 10.30pm.. ..Don't Miss it.. 00 919994188566 rahmanian rajkumar http://www.youtube.com/bobyi
[arr] Re: leave ARR
Well said... Let us not forget to include that these sample people questioned the nationality of Vishwanathan Anand. When will we begin to really respect really talented people. Jai Ho, Jayram --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Mohan Devanand sharab...@... wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this .
Re: [arr] I truly do not believe most people endorse the following statement:
Well... Where did this image come from?? His current image is only because of the terrific pathbreaking works of his past. It did not suddenly come up, one fine morning. It is not justice to say that Rahman's image made ppl like his works. Infact, the present situation is similar to that. Due to Rahman's pathbreaking accomplishments of the past, today, there are people to praise any mediocre or below average work from him (Eg: Ghajini), and bash other sincere Rahmaniacs who dislike the same. Anyway, what ARR today, is ONLY because of his hardwork and pathbreaking accomplishments. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 7:03 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: This statement is coming from that Weaka Weaka article, which to me sounded extremely biased. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. A minority may think this, but I truly do not think the majority of true music lovers out there think this is true. Yes, Rahman has an image and a brand name, but people can discern quality too and are not that dumb to just go by someone's name when it comes to appreciating good music. Because Rahman's music is often so original and unconventional, it does take time for the music to sink in, th This is scientifically proven in psychology that when a complex, unfamiliar, and unknown stimulus is encountered, the mind has to accommodate (change) rather than assimilate (easily absorb)...which is why repeated exposure is necessary for Rahman's music, which is often complex, unfamiliar, and unknown due to the high originality and innovativeness factors. Brand Rahman exists, yes, but Quality Rahman is still there and still strong according to most. How do I know? A in my family , who have been skeptical of Rahman's music in the past, are head over heels with Raavan's music. They are not the type to just like something just because it has Rahman attached to it. They are critical music lovers who are skeptical of today's music. If they like a Rahman album or song and which validates my opinion (my opinion is not dependent on anyone's by the way), I know Rahman has scored big time.
Re: [arr] leave ARR
Very soon we can hear that the songs in film didn't catch me. Endhiran was superb...[?] On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.comwrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@yahoo.comwrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com -- * * *Regards * *MANAF * 322.gif
[arr] Let's get some good postings on the group .........
It is slowly becoming irritating to read' some BABIES crying about being SAD about an album or ARR should have made songs like old ones or ARR losing touch and all such childish comments through some senseless posts. Rahman's songs are like a fine WINE. They take time to mature and become more and more good to ears as the days progress. But, this WINE and maturing stuff is anyway not for the babies right ? Let's see more postings by Gopal, Dasun, Vithur, Amith, Rawat, Pratap, Gomzy, Kaissom, AJ, Rajeeb, Wiredbeats and such soldiers who have experience of what it takes to make good music and also know the real ARR. Jai HO ! Dinesh Vaidya Pune
Re: [arr] ARR's theme song didn't strike me
I liked it AJ... as AR mentioned in the first press conference, i could visualize the song be echoed by the audience of the stadium and thundering clapping rhythm... so there's something else behind the composition, that many of us have not realized yet... It need not be like any other composition that we are used to, it has to arouse the crowd in the stadium and raise the spirit of the game. I'm sure, it has all the ingredients for that mega event. So let's wait and see. :) Cheers, Bergin On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: I actually loved this one! but I appreciate your views. loved the very moment the guitars kicked in and i was so full of energy after listening to it for a few times. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:54 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: I gave it a few listens, but I honestly didn't find it too appealing. I did appreciate the musical creativity and the mood that AR tried to capture in this song, but I couldn't connect with it much. Perhaps this is a grower, but for now, I am not bowled over. Rahman's theme songs in recent times haven't impressed me much musically or emotionally in general, though I appreciate the effort behind them. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
Really disappointed with the reviews in the media coming out in a hurry... wait until its performed in the event and then criticize.. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:07 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] CWG song is better than Waka Waka
peoples who like booty shaking more than music would sure like waka waka more. No true music lover would even try to compare typical Shakira songs with ARR! From: Aditya Pai adityaco...@yahoo.co.in To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 8:22:53 PM Subject: [arr] CWG song is better than Waka Waka Agree with me or not but i seriously didn't like waka waka it was very loud CWG theme song is much better than waka waka.
[arr] critics
dear friends, we have got so many people here who hates any song which A.R.R. does nowadays..they have some preset ideas in their mind,like i saw someone expecting a maro maro for cwg...high time they should start composing..!!even God won't be able to satisfy them...Sir if you are reading this we are with you and please do whatever you feel is good..we always want you to break things musically which you have always done and doing succesfully.LET'S GO..!!
Re: [arr] My first mail to AR Rahman Fans - reg.
Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Tata Indicom -Original Message- From: tootyfrooty_telugug...@yahoo.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 05:54:31 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: tootyfrooty_telugug...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [arr] My first mail to AR Rahman Fans - reg. Dear Natarajan, I completely agree with you.. My dear co-fans let's first try to learn basics before criticising. Jai Ho ARR. Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone from Tata Indicom -Original Message- From: natarajan bhaskaran bnataraa...@yahoo.co.in Sender: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 29 Aug 2010 06:47:28 To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Reply-To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Subject: [arr] My first mail to AR Rahman Fans - reg. Dear Rahmaniacs, This is Natarajan, working as a scientist in USA. I have been a member in AR Rahman fans at yahoo for several years. This is my first mail to my co-fans of Dr. Rahman since I have become a member. I have been reading and analyzing lot of your mails regarding Rahman ji's composition for Jingles/Movies/album etc.. and I have been noticing one thing is that, some of my co-fans were criticizing Rahman's work rather than analyzing it carefully, specially towards Rahman's work in Enthiran. As a scientist I attended a seminar related to robotics at my University, and fortunately the techno sounds the presenters used were almost matching our Endhiran. I would like to say one thing is that Music is also a Science and a scientist who tries to deliver his baby (results) after a long hard work will not be bad. AR Rahman Sir has also done the same, he tried to match all the songs with the necessity of the film. His music for endhiran will completely go with the film, especially the techno sounds he used. So, kindly don't criticize any music or science without knowing about it. JAI HO.
Re: [arr] V K Malhotra not impressed with Rahman's CWG theme song
what can u expect a leader from opposition party to say?! and, Indian media is famous for that.classic and recent example: the link below deals with the same news. but its a video! http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/129847/bjp-leader-not-impressed-by-rahmans-cwg-song.html?from=trending http://ibnlive.in.com/videos/129847/bjp-leader-not-impressed-by-rahmans-cwg-song.html?from=trendingthough the gentleman there says the song didn't excite him and he wud rather prefer something from 1980's days, look at the statement given by the so called famous news channel. waka waka was never mentioned in that video. just exaggeration and BS. *VK Malhotra, who is also the Vice President of IOA, said Rahman's song is not as inspiring as Shakira's Waka Waka.* * * *also, if u goto bollywoodhungama, there is no mention of CWG released by ARR. * * * *i bet there would be majority of Indians and infact some from our group who wouldn't fear even to pray so that ARRs score in 127 hours should go unnoticed. such lame, heartless individuals certainly exist and they try their best to curse the cause instead of atleast staying put - if not promoting.* * * *i wish ARR goes hollywood way and spends equal or more time on hollywood projects as well. * On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 1:59 PM, Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com wrote: these days, people are trying their best to write him off as a pre-oscars wonder. looking at the comments on Youtube and our own media, they are pretending to be unhappy with the song just so they can find one more reason to poke fun at the delays and bad press about CWG I don't know why but indian media doesn't like people getting famous for the right reasons. May be AR shouldn't compose for events like these.. because these things will inevitably turn into a political blame war. And AR will become the victim of badpress just because he was associated with it. No one will even recognize the hardwork went into making the music. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 2:46 PM, live for arr Live livefor...@yahoo.comwrote: *New Delhi: * A R Rahman's Commonwealth Games theme song has failed to impress the CWG Organising Committee's Executive Board member V K Malhotra, who feels the composition has fallen short of expectations. Oh yaaro, yeh India bula liya, which was launched amid much fanfare by the Oscar-winning composer yesterday has been given a thumbs down by Malhotra, who has suggested that the song be reworked. This song has fallen short of expectations. We had a expected a better anthem for the Games from a composer of Rahman's status, Malhotra, also the vice-president of the Indian Olympic Association, said. He has given some very good songs like 'Maa Tujhe Salaam' but this song is not that impressive. We hope that the song is made better because there is still some time for the Games, he added. - [image: NDTV]Share on Twitter - [image: NDTV]Share on Social http://social.ndtv.com/home.php - [image: NDTV]Gmail Buzzhttp://www.google.com/reader/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ndtv.com%2Farticle%2Fsports%2Fv-k-malhotra-not-impressed-with-rahmans-cwg-theme-song-47974title=V+K+Malhotra+not+impressed+with+Rahman%27s+CWG+theme+songsnippet=A+R+Rahman%27s+Commonwealth+Games+theme+song+has+failed+to+impress+the+CWG+Organising+Committee%27s+Executive+Board+member+V+K+Malhotra%2C+who+feels+the+composition+has+%22fallen+short+of+expectations%22.srcTitle=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ndtv.com%2Farticle%2Fsports%2Fv-k-malhotra-not-impressed-with-rahmans-cwg-theme-song-47974 - [image: NDTV]Print Rahman sang it in front of a gathering which included Delhi Chief Minister Sheila Dikshit, her Haryana counterpart Bhupinder Singh Hooda and CWG Organising Committee Chairman Suresh Kalmadi yesterday. I feel honoured to get the opportunity to compose the theme song for the mega-event. It was not an easy task. I had started composing it six months ago and finished just last night, Rahman said after the launch. The launch of the theme song had been delayed after the Group of Ministers overseeing the quadrennial sporting extravaganza asked Rahman to change it a little bit. Read more at: http://www.ndtv.com/article/sports/v-k-malhotra-not-impressed-with-rahman-s-cwg-theme-song-47974?cp -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] leave ARR
it will always happen buddy.. RDB sucks. after delhi 6 release, media said delhi 6 is doesnt compare to the class and beauty of RDB! btw, delhi 6 is a runaway musical hit!! i can a dozen more recent instances like that. recent one being sivaji and enthiran. similar analogy applies. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 2:36 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.comwrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! -- *From:* Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@yahoo.comwrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes. yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is. when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day. and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW. REGARDS, taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there.
[arr] ARR T Shirts - New Print
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Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
out of thousands of user reviews, comments and feedback, the author of this article is intelligent enough to pick two golden negative reviews and highlight it in the write-up. also, the fee is highlighted. way to go media! On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:07 AM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.comwrote: http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
Re: [arr] A Humble Request
i have heard almost 25-30 times.. the song is FRESH and AWESOME and Presentation is One of the Best from ARR... Loved the way Flavours mixed in 1 track... loved it.. peace djo From: syed smabba...@yahoo.co.in To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 3:51:38 AM Subject: [arr] A Humble Request its my humble requests for any guys trying to review the CWG theme song to stop reviewing it atleast for a week's time.. i am sure dat all u guys know dat Rahman's music grows on as u hear more.. Remember dat..be patient..who knows..u may even get addicted to it.. and for all those guys who r trying to degrade Rahman..i feel sorry 4 u ..watever u try..nothing wud tarnish his music or image.. The Legend wud continue to grow..no stoppings for the maestro..
[arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-)
yes, i liked it a lot --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: The song is brilliant. I started loving it after repeated hearing on a headphone. - magic works for me, can't stop playing it again again now!!! From: jarjar jayram...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 1:28:04 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) Takkar Song... As they say in Tamil takkar means superb song. Great beat, melody and superb mix of traditional instruments too. I am sure this is going to rock India for some time... Thanks ARR Sir... Anyone anyone.. please post the translation !! please !!! Jai Ho, Jayram
Re: [arr] leave ARR
* This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. * * * Very well said Mohan. *The above statement is very true and one needs in-depth understanding of ground reality to even accept this statement. * On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:30 AM, Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.comwrote: I think you will like it more as time passes, I am thoroughly enjoying it, but I just cannot pass judgement in a nano second with AR's music -- *From:* AJ purev...@yahoo.com *To:* arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com *Sent:* Sun, August 29, 2010 8:46:44 PM *Subject:* Re: [arr] leave ARR Ram, It's the same old pattern that gets repeated again and again. You're right, the same people now saying that this song is not as good as Jai Ho were the same ones complaining what the big deal about Jai Ho was when it came out. Same story..over and over... I appreciate the effort that AR put into CWGmaybe I'll like it more as time goes on. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Ram Motipally mramvina...@... wrote: thank god he is not a cricketer, otherwise some people would call for him to retire ! Fascinating how when AR won the oscar, some people said Jai Ho is not his best. Now some people are saying the CWG song does not have the beauty of a Jai Ho ! From: Farzad Khaleel farsad...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 5:03:20 PM Subject: Re: [arr] leave ARR Moderator would surely allow you. Keep posting at the time of new releases. Would be handy ;) On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Mohan Devanand sharab...@... wrote: PLEASE for GOD'S sake try to avoid immature,unfair criticism on ARR'S mostly brilliant repertoire till now. To keep on posting only to start a debate or just to seek a few peoples attention ,has become a habit with some so called music lovers.You are entitled to your opinion, you have all the right to express it but ,people who are sane and occupied with some useful work may not have all the time to indulge in such absurd debates. Somebody trying to degrade a splendid musical masterpiece [what ever it is] approved and celebrated by the majority including many noted critics all over the world,only expose themselves as a sick clown. ARR is not a GOD,nor a complete authority in music to turn every attempt of his into gold.Nevertheless ,he has proved time and again as an absolute genius . His work is unarguably a league apart,eminently superior than his counterparts as well as his predecessors.The biggest problem with us is,we tend to pull down a person who is successful beyond a certain extent ,for no reason.If we were to name a few extremely talented persons who have extensive international recognition,in all categories,ARR will be in the fore front.Moreover that list is absolutely short as you can find only a very few in this country.Indians who have achieved tremendously by innovating, recognized by highest forums like NOBEL committee, have been NRI's mostly.This country has little place for real achievers, be it sports or science.A SACHIN or ARR happen very rarely. If you are not satisfied with people like them,fine ,you should be a genius ,so kindly spare them and allow them to stay here and bring more laurels to this country. Please let us not allow ARR to do a PANDIT RAVISHANKER. thank you your's respectfully AN INDIAN FAN PS; hope the moderator allows this . -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
[arr] Is ARR a God or a super power human?
No. he is a normal human being like us. he has got that extra god given talent called music with which he pleases millions of people around the world. Every human being is capable of making mistakes, cannot do every time the right thing. So, I request the fans to understand that he cannot produce music which will satisy ur ears every time u hear it. there are lots of generes in music in the world. every person who hears cannot like all the generes. So, hear only what u like. ARR cannot score music for the vieweres which he/she likes. He scores the music 4 a films based on the situation which the director gives. He cannot score a Thiruda thiruda for every album. If he scores Thiruda thiruda for every album, thn what will the fan say ARR is become repetitive. The scores sounds like Thiruda thiruda only, u would have not got a Bombay, Dilse, Taal, Jodha Akabar etc. Please understand this basic thing before writing some thing.
[arr] Re: ARR's theme song didn't strike me
i found it quite good actually. though still below expectations given that theme song for this type of occasion should be fast paced and more lively. but good song anyway. /Jahanzeb --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: I actually loved this one! but I appreciate your views. loved the very moment the guitars kicked in and i was so full of energy after listening to it for a few times. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:54 PM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I gave it a few listens, but I honestly didn't find it too appealing. I did appreciate the musical creativity and the mood that AR tried to capture in this song, but I couldn't connect with it much. Perhaps this is a grower, but for now, I am not bowled over. Rahman's theme songs in recent times haven't impressed me much musically or emotionally in general, though I appreciate the effort behind them. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
[arr] CWG Theme- Mixed reactions from the industry
Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's composition A. R. Rahman's theme song for the Commonwealth Games, Khelo jeeyo, hey-o, has drawn mixed response from fans. But quite predictably, most big names in the music industry are backing the maestro's effort. Many music buffs, including BJP leader and Commonwealth Games Organising Committee executive board member V. K. Malhotra, have questioned the song's quality. The verdict is that the Oscar-winning music director has done too rushed a job to justify his hefty fee - close to ` 5.5 crore. The song has fallen short of expectations. We expected something better from a composer of his stature. He has given us good songs in the past, but this one is unimpressive. He should tweak it. There is still some time before the Games, says Malhotra. On the theme song's portal, Rahman fan Vivekananda Vemana writes: I'm sorry Rahman, I don't like it (the song). But anyway, I am happy that you tried your best. The Bollywood music frat, however, is more generous. We must keep in mind that Rahman's songs have a way of growing on people, says singer Kailash Kher. Singer Ila Arun agrees. Rahman's creations elicit mixed reactions in the beginning. Even Jai ho-his Oscar-winning number in Slumdog Millionaire-was initially panned. But the song went on to become a global rage. I think the same will happen to the CWG theme song, she says. So, is it a 'rushed job'? Kher says: We should remember that he has a packed schedule. Considering that the theme song is for such an important event, the government should have given him more time. For me, Rahman is above criticism. Others in Bollywood say Rahman's brand power will make the song a hit. He is a music director of global stature. Simply adding his name to the CWG theme song will give extra value to the event. In the long run, among other things, CWG 2010 will be remembered for the theme song, says Bollywood's in- demand composer Pritam. Agrees music director Shekhar Ravjiani of the Vishal- Shekhar duo: I don't see anyone else composing this song. He has the talent to pull off anything. How can you assign the theme song to anyone else in the world when you have an Indian composer of Rahman's stature, he asks. The song, which can be downloaded from the internet, begins with lilting strains before wild guitar riffs take over to set an eccentric mood. Penned primarily in Hindi, the number is also laced with English hip- hop lyrics for a contemporary feel. World music whiffs combine with folksy drum beats as Rahman creates a tune that aims to be universal in spirit. Not everyone is impressed, though. A fan Pradeep Krishnan writes on the song's portal: After listening to the song, I realised that something is missing… request you to have more versions of the same song… which will bring enthusiasm and sportsman spirit. The only Bollywood composer who is openly critical about the song is Aadesh Shrivastava. I can't understand the lyrics and beats. It sounds like a typical sarkari song. Plus, my point is - why only Rahman? The government could have asked five different composers to prepare numbers and then chosen the best one, he says. Singer Kunal Ganjawala, disagrees: Those who want to nitpick will always find some fault. I feel the song is a good representation of today's India as an emerging global force. While on global force, some people feel instead of paying Rahman ` 5.5 crore, the amount could have been used to hire a global icon. With that kind of money, you could have signed on Shakira or Enrique Iglesias. Australian pop star Kylie Minogue was recently paid about ` 5 crore for her item song in the film, Blue. Why couldn't they get an international star? asks a top Bollywood music video director, without wishing to be named. Playback star Shreya Ghoshal does not like that idea. Why do we need a foreigner to compose a song for our Games? We don't need to import everything. You can't doubt Rahman's status as an international star, she says. Among those who think the song will grow on people is actor Sharman Joshi. The theme song will rock the nation. Give it some time to become popular, he says. Brouhaha over the quality of the song started some time ago when Rahman presented the number before the Group of Ministers ( GoM) on the Games in the Capital. He was then asked to tweak it before the opening ceremony. When I presented the theme song, it was approved but they asked me to tweak it, the Oscar- winning composer had said then, adding that he had been given 10 days to make the song livelier. The updated number was released on Saturday. In the meantime, not many know that playback singer Shaan too had recorded a tentative theme song for the Games. The number was composed by Shamir Tandon, of the Page 3 fame. Delhi chief minister Sheila Dikshit had commissioned the song. I don't know what happened to it, says Shaan, insisting that he is happy that Rahman was
[arr] Translation of cwg theme
The song is simply awesome...No matter what others say,i am simply loving it and would definitely listen it forever...Could some1 be kind enough to post the translations?...Cos i feel i connect with a song better if i know the meaningSo can some1 do it?...Thanks in advance...
Re: [arr] Do non-growing songs also endure?
Rawat bhai, ofcourse yes. The best example for me was chinni chinni asai and kadhal rojave from Roja. I can still listen to them today and enjoy them as much. I think AJ wrote on another thread on how fresh Roja is still for him. Then came Urvasi, Ottagatta and En Vettu from gentleman. A few songs from Thiruda Thiruda. Most songs of Duet. Sathiya you mentioned, man this is leading me on a nostalgic trip Coming to recent ones, Jodha Akbar - jashne bahara and in lamhon ke daaman had similar effect. In RDB - the music when the titles roll had a similar effect. Dreams on fire from SD. Kaise mujhe tum from Ghajini. Hosana from VTV. The background score of VTV - the music when titles roll, had a tremendous impact on me on first hear and it continues to haunt me. Thok de from Raavan had similar effect. Maham maye from Komaram Puli. Kadhal Anukkal and Pudhiya Manitha from Endhiran had similar effect. Swarnim Gujarat had a very strong first impact on me. I can go on and on.maybe another email for all the songs that grew slowly. From: V S Rawat vsra...@gmail.com To: arrf arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 10:47:12 PM Subject: [arr] Do non-growing songs also endure? ARR is known to give songs that one might not like in first hearings but they grow and are eventually liked for a long time, maybe forever. I am thinking about the songs that don't need to grow, meaning you liked them in the first few hearings or maybe even in the very first hearing. Do these songs also endure. Do you keep on liking it for a long time or forever. Or do only growing songs stay with you whereas such instantly likeable wither out faster? Please mention the songs that you liked it almost instantly and you still like them. Meaning, they didn't need to grow on you. For me, Sathiya would be an album that I had liked on the first hearing itself and I still like it. Who can not like Chupke Se in the first hearing. Any more? which ones for you? Rawat Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. I was expecting this same exact response from you, Taimur. You're very predictable. What you said is only your opinion. Most people in this group and elsewhere would not agree with you about that. I like the ARR today just as much as ARR of yesterday. What I wrote were just observations of trends, not a judgment of what I like more or what ARR has lost over the years. ARR has changedand to me, that's it. What I miss from ARR today is compensated by what ARR didn't emphasize before but now is emphasizing as a more mature and seasoned composerlike symphonic refinement, greater genre diversity, and more varied global styles and textures. He has expanded his repertoire and you don't hear anyone calling him repetitive anymore, a label that stuck with him by critics back in the 1990s. I like today's ARR just as much as the ARR of yesterday. Maybe you don't, but many people here in this group and elsewhere feel that ARR has changed and grown, matured as a composer, emphasizing more global music. And the Indian ARR is very much aliveKhwaja Mere Khwaja, Man Mohanna, Maula Maula, Khili Re, Ranjha Ranjha, Tere Bina, Aye Hairathe Aashiqui, Jashne Bahaar..etc. etc. I made a compilation CD of my favorites from ARR and Mani Ratnam, putting old and new songs side by side and listening to all them together. I get the same number of goosebumps when I hear Tu Hi Re or E Ajnabi as I do when I hear Behene De or Ranjha Ranjha or Tere Bina. Which song one likes better is only a matter of opinion, not truth. For me, the feelings I get when I listen to old ARR are matched by the feelings I get when I listen to new ARR. I just go with the flow and I keep nostalgia in check. You have very little insight into how nostalgia plays a role into judging music from the past. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes.   yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music.  today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is.  when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day.  and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW.  REGARDS,  taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@... wrote: From: AJ purev...@... Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM  Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western
Re: [arr] ARR Database Interface Design
Very neat work, Rakesh! It's really incredible! I strongly hope we should follow the same pattern :-) --- On Fri, 8/27/10, rakesh kumar rak_d_ku...@yahoo.com wrote: From: rakesh kumar rak_d_ku...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] ARR Database Interface Design [1 Attachment] To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 10:54 AM [Attachment(s) from rakesh kumar included below] Dear All, I am keeping track of the ingoing discussion and work done by members about a full ARR movie and dongs database, in that regard, i have designed the front design of a movie details. Please note that some details given a not correct, as i am not very aware of the ragas, but can have an idea about how it looks. Since its sole purpose is about ARR Movies, I have made a bigger search bar where anything can be searched, with some category thrown in .. My plan is to design the following pages 1. Main Movie page - shows detail about a particular movie ( as attached) 2. Year page 3. Singer 4. Language - year wise listing of movie 5. Director 5 - Actor / Actress ( Since the db is about ARR, i think details about the actor/actresses is sufficient) Any other you guys can suggest. Suggestions are welcome ARR Rules Rakesh
[arr] cwg and waka
Cwg and Waka - both songs are good.. Waka is more like celebration of Africa, gathering and partying. Cwg is energitic and filled with 'go get it' attitude.. For a sporting event like this it make sence to have a song like arr's. The expression of this song is in perfect alignment with the idea behind this song. When waka came, people said ricky martin's was better and now arr's is here and people say shakira was better.. Just wait and see..cwg will become a rage.
[arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then why have expectations in the first place?
Re: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name
Well said bro! From: shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 21:31:24 Subject: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name I'm a fan from Bangladesh. Even though I'm not an Indian, i loved the track. After couple of hearing, i felt inspired. I knew that i may be biased,so went on giving the song to all my friends, and even family members, and honestly speaking everyone loved it. It's a truly international, stimulating anthem. Even though with ARR's talent he could have done wonders with this song, but he kept it pretty simple. And i think it's because he wanted it to reach all the masses. But for the last two days i can only see negativity coming from the media, which is very saddening.There are only pointing to those few comments that went against the song, but completely have been ignoring the thousands of positive comments and love towards the CWH theme song. When i went to the theme blog, i only saw good, sublime comments. Yes, there's definitely some people who did;t like the song. When for the first time waka waka and waving flag came out, hundreds of blogers and reviewers totally wrote these songs off. But look at them now. Different people have different perspectives, that's normal. Not everyone will love your work. But after reading the Indian newspapers and couple of senior crappy composer's comments, it seems that they were waiting for rahman's CWG song to be released, and pounded like a shameless naked cat on it and started bashing it. I read an article on this song in mailtoday i guess. The reporter(i'm sure is an owner of zero musical knowledge) was constantly dragging the fact that AR Rahman was paid 5.5 crore for it. What a cheap shot. Shame on that reporter and the editor, Shame on you ppl. He earned it. They were insisting on the fact that indian Govt' shoud have hired shakira or other international artists. I don't get it He is a double oscar winner. He himself is a global musical icon. He's achievements are far superior than any shakira or any xyz. Very sad, very disappointing. Even in this fan forum there are some ppl who are not supporting rahman, the way they should. Anyways, i loved the song and Can't wait the video to come out. Shakib A true rahmaniac
Re: [arr] critics
Very well said Gupta! Expectations is wat is ruining these people's ability to appreciate Rahman's compositions these days! Our Boss has always been sincere in every one of his efforts and has constantly worked on taking Indian Film Music to the international level! This is evident through his global popularity which he has achieved within the past 18 years which is a feat that no other MD in the Indian Film Music industry could manage to achieve. A.R.R is one of the most versatile composer of our time and every composition of his is magical. The best way to appreciate his works is to approach them with no expectations! Rather let his music sweep you of your feet! Regards Neevan From: souvik gupta aryan@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 13:17:43 Subject: [arr] critics dear friends, we have got so many people here who hates any song which A.R.R. does nowadays..they have some preset ideas in their mind,like i saw someone expecting a maro maro for cwg...high time they should start composing..!!even God won't be able to satisfy them...Sir if you are reading this we are with you and please do whatever you feel is good..we always want you to break things musically which you have always done and doing succesfully.LET'S GO..!!
[arr] Rahman magic on the wane, say music lovers
http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/rahman-magic-wane-say-music-lovers-415 Hyderabad/Chennai, Aug. 28: The theme song for the Commonwealth Games Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto, composed by A.R. Rahman received mixed reviews from music lovers. “I usually like Rahman’s songs. I heard him sing the song and it was like any other song. I guess he is slowly losing his flavour. Shakira has her own sex appeal and Waka Waka was catchy. Of late, people are liking whatever he does for the brand he is rather than the music he composes,” said Raghu, an upcoming playback singer. “I had lots of expectations from his CWG composition. I just heard a bit of it and it is just average. I felt I heard similar songs before. I don’t know if he is overworked or saturated but Rahman’s touch is waning,” said a senior music composer on condition of anonymity. Music director Radhakrishna, who had not liked a couple of the songs composed by Rahman in his last Telugu film Em Maya Chesave, said, “He is singing this song and surely knows he will get a lot of publicity out of this event. The song will be downloaded and played by the media several times. Even if it is not that great, people will start liking it as television and radio stations will play it again and again. Rahman’s show in the city was a flop when he came here. It’s not that everything he composes is great.” Singer Anuj Gurwara, who heard the song online, said that it would be some time before people liked the song. “It is a typical Rahman number and will take time to grow on you. Initially people might think it is just an average composition but I will still wait for a few more weeks to see the public reaction,” he said. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman’s image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. “His songs of late are not what they were and the CWG one is no exception. I felt his song for CWG was so similar to what he did before. Comparing himself to Shakira is a joke. She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music. However, Kollywood, Rahman’s home industry, backed him up saying the music is very typical of Rahman. Ramya, popular DJ and TV anchor, said, “Most ARR compositions would be a bit unusual and difficult to understand in the beginning; only by repeated listening will we start liking them. That’s what happened even with his latest Enthiran music. Nobody liked the music on the first day of the CD release but now people are going gaga over it.” But, software professional Vikram Mohan, 28, however, said that the score did not strike a chord with him. “The tune was not catchy and seems eminently forgettable. Compared to Shakira’s Waka Waka and other sports anthems, Rahman’s composition falls flat,” he said.
Re: [arr] Who wrote the CWG song?
Mehboob On Aug 30, 2010 6:52 PM, Aakarsh aakarsh...@yahoo.com wrote: Who wrote the song? A lot of talk is going on about the CWG song and the responses to it. But any idea who wrote the lyrics? Regards *Aakarsh * ** * http://kamal-aakarsh.blogspot.com/ *
[arr] Re: Rahman magic on the wane, say music lovers
Yeah, let's see what people say when JHS and 127 hours are released. Everyone aboard the bash ARR bandwagon! It's fashionable to bash ARR, right? You get more hits to your website...more controversy to attract viewers...that's all you media people care about. Give me a break, media! Get a head for once and think on your own! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, SaiRam K ram4frie...@... wrote: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/rahman-magic-wane-say-music-lovers-415 Hyderabad/Chennai, Aug. 28: The theme song for the Commonwealth Games Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto, composed by A.R. Rahman received mixed reviews from music lovers. I usually like Rahman's songs. I heard him sing the song and it was like any other song. I guess he is slowly losing his flavour. Shakira has her own sex appeal and Waka Waka was catchy. Of late, people are liking whatever he does for the brand he is rather than the music he composes, said Raghu, an upcoming playback singer. I had lots of expectations from his CWG composition. I just heard a bit of it and it is just average. I felt I heard similar songs before. I don't know if he is overworked or saturated but Rahman's touch is waning, said a senior music composer on condition of anonymity. Music director Radhakrishna, who had not liked a couple of the songs composed by Rahman in his last Telugu film Em Maya Chesave, said, He is singing this song and surely knows he will get a lot of publicity out of this event. The song will be downloaded and played by the media several times. Even if it is not that great, people will start liking it as television and radio stations will play it again and again. Rahman's show in the city was a flop when he came here. It's not that everything he composes is great. Singer Anuj Gurwara, who heard the song online, said that it would be some time before people liked the song. It is a typical Rahman number and will take time to grow on you. Initially people might think it is just an average composition but I will still wait for a few more weeks to see the public reaction, he said. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman's image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. His songs of late are not what they were and the CWG one is no exception. I felt his song for CWG was so similar to what he did before. Comparing himself to Shakira is a joke. She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now, said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music. However, Kollywood, Rahman's home industry, backed him up saying the music is very typical of Rahman. Ramya, popular DJ and TV anchor, said, Most ARR compositions would be a bit unusual and difficult to understand in the beginning; only by repeated listening will we start liking them. That's what happened even with his latest Enthiran music. Nobody liked the music on the first day of the CD release but now people are going gaga over it. But, software professional Vikram Mohan, 28, however, said that the score did not strike a chord with him. The tune was not catchy and seems eminently forgettable. Compared to Shakira's Waka Waka and other sports anthems, Rahman's composition falls flat, he said.
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
Friends, I have a slightly different opinion. AJ is right, but I think we are jumping to a conclusion here and it is very fair, its human nature. We all are struggling to find the answer about what is different from AR's music of the 90s and say now, so any answer that might sound reasonable at the surface, there is a danger of one accepting it, just to get rid of the bother of the question. I am myself struggling to find an answer to this question...just like many of you. Roja when it was released in 1990 was a path breaker in all aspects. Chinni Chinni had a reggae rhythm. How can it be called pure Indian ? AR's brilliance has always been in fusing indian tunes and sounds with western genres. Songs of gentleman and thiruda thiruda were equally criticized by some in the 1990s saying they are plastic music, computer music and too western. Just go back in that time period and think for yourself, werent these albums way ahead of its times in the India of the 90s ? Is nostalgia messing with our minds again ??? I would like to call this sweet pain ! And for now, listen to VTV and the same indian ness comes through. Mannipaya is pure indianness by any AR song standard. AR's repertoire has evolved and there is a distinct difference in his work of now from the 90s. It is different. I will though not say one is better than the other. Which other music director has inflicted so much pain (sweet pain) in analyzing the music and messing with our own emotions ? How can one who has suffered this sweet pain, not be an AR fan ... I plan to write something on what AR's music means to me.for those interested, stay tuned Ram From: Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com; purev...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 4:24:08 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes. yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is. when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day. and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW. REGARDS, taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used
[arr] Re: ARR's theme song didn't strike me
You're right, Bergin...it's still early...I may come to like it yet! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bergin Roy ber...@... wrote: I liked it AJ... as AR mentioned in the first press conference, i could visualize the song be echoed by the audience of the stadium and thundering clapping rhythm... so there's something else behind the composition, that many of us have not realized yet... It need not be like any other composition that we are used to, it has to arouse the crowd in the stadium and raise the spirit of the game. I'm sure, it has all the ingredients for that mega event. So let's wait and see. :) Cheers, Bergin On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 4:38 PM, Roshan c.pix...@... wrote: I actually loved this one! but I appreciate your views. loved the very moment the guitars kicked in and i was so full of energy after listening to it for a few times. On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 9:54 PM, AJ purev...@... wrote: I gave it a few listens, but I honestly didn't find it too appealing. I did appreciate the musical creativity and the mood that AR tried to capture in this song, but I couldn't connect with it much. Perhaps this is a grower, but for now, I am not bowled over. Rahman's theme songs in recent times haven't impressed me much musically or emotionally in general, though I appreciate the effort behind them. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org -- www.berginroy.com
[arr] Re: CWG Theme- Mixed reactions from the industry
Glad to see many notable bollywood personalities behind ARR. I can just hear the ARR critics and haters going ga ga over all of this stuff. They will make a lot of noise about this for sure. Keeping making noise haters and naysayers...ARR will keep making music. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bivin Chandra bivinchan...@... wrote: Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's composition A. R. Rahman's theme song for the Commonwealth Games, Khelo jeeyo, hey-o, has drawn mixed response from fans. But quite predictably, most big names in the music industry are backing the maestro's effort. Many music buffs, including BJP leader and Commonwealth Games Organising Committee executive board member V. K. Malhotra, have questioned the song's quality. The verdict is that the Oscar-winning music director has done too rushed a job to justify his hefty fee - close to ` 5.5 crore. The song has fallen short of expectations. We expected something better from a composer of his stature. He has given us good songs in the past, but this one is unimpressive. He should tweak it. There is still some time before the Games, says Malhotra. On the theme song's portal, Rahman fan Vivekananda Vemana writes: I'm sorry Rahman, I don't like it (the song). But anyway, I am happy that you tried your best. The Bollywood music frat, however, is more generous. We must keep in mind that Rahman's songs have a way of growing on people, says singer Kailash Kher. Singer Ila Arun agrees. Rahman's creations elicit mixed reactions in the beginning. Even Jai ho-his Oscar-winning number in Slumdog Millionaire-was initially panned. But the song went on to become a global rage. I think the same will happen to the CWG theme song, she says. So, is it a 'rushed job'? Kher says: We should remember that he has a packed schedule. Considering that the theme song is for such an important event, the government should have given him more time. For me, Rahman is above criticism. Others in Bollywood say Rahman's brand power will make the song a hit. He is a music director of global stature. Simply adding his name to the CWG theme song will give extra value to the event. In the long run, among other things, CWG 2010 will be remembered for the theme song, says Bollywood's in- demand composer Pritam. Agrees music director Shekhar Ravjiani of the Vishal- Shekhar duo: I don't see anyone else composing this song. He has the talent to pull off anything. How can you assign the theme song to anyone else in the world when you have an Indian composer of Rahman's stature, he asks. The song, which can be downloaded from the internet, begins with lilting strains before wild guitar riffs take over to set an eccentric mood. Penned primarily in Hindi, the number is also laced with English hip- hop lyrics for a contemporary feel. World music whiffs combine with folksy drum beats as Rahman creates a tune that aims to be universal in spirit. Not everyone is impressed, though. A fan Pradeep Krishnan writes on the song's portal: After listening to the song, I realised that something is missingââ¬Â¦ request you to have more versions of the same songââ¬Â¦ which will bring enthusiasm and sportsman spirit. The only Bollywood composer who is openly critical about the song is Aadesh Shrivastava. I can't understand the lyrics and beats. It sounds like a typical sarkari song. Plus, my point is - why only Rahman? The government could have asked five different composers to prepare numbers and then chosen the best one, he says. Singer Kunal Ganjawala, disagrees: Those who want to nitpick will always find some fault. I feel the song is a good representation of today's India as an emerging global force. While on global force, some people feel instead of paying Rahman ` 5.5 crore, the amount could have been used to hire a global icon. With that kind of money, you could have signed on Shakira or Enrique Iglesias. Australian pop star Kylie Minogue was recently paid about ` 5 crore for her item song in the film, Blue. Why couldn't they get an international star? asks a top Bollywood music video director, without wishing to be named. Playback star Shreya Ghoshal does not like that idea. Why do we need a foreigner to compose a song for our Games? We don't need to import everything. You can't doubt Rahman's status as an international star, she says. Among those who think the song will grow on people is actor Sharman Joshi. The theme song will rock the nation. Give it some time to become popular, he says. Brouhaha over the quality of the song started some time ago when Rahman presented the number before the Group of Ministers ( GoM) on the Games in the Capital. He was then asked to tweak it before the opening ceremony. When I presented the theme song, it was approved but they asked me to tweak it, the Oscar- winning composer had said
Re: [arr] cwg and waka
Raghu, brilliant, crisp and intensely intelligent response for people comparing CWG song with waka waka. I bow to thee.. From: raghu arr arr_ra...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:45:46 AM Subject: [arr] cwg and waka Cwg and Waka - both songs are good.. Waka is more like celebration of Africa, gathering and partying. Cwg is energitic and filled with 'go get it' attitude.. For a sporting event like this it make sence to have a song like arr's. The expression of this song is in perfect alignment with the idea behind this song. When waka came, people said ricky martin's was better and now arr's is here and people say shakira was better.. Just wait and see..cwg will become a rage. Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name
My opinion, I am simply tired of all the negativity around the CWG games as well as the song. It seems come what may, we will have some one with a negative opinion and this is very well fuelled by the media. AR's song might as well be used as a pawn in this entire mess. As I said, we have to start building a national pride around the CWG. Our politicians are corrupt it is a given, but we cannot disown the games, they belong to India, they belong to us. Tomorrow if there is a disaster with the hosting of the games imagine how shameful it will be for us when we meet our foreign friends and they ask us, what happened ? I remember all my chinese friends how much of nationalistic pride they took when the beijing games were being held. From: Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:42:54 AM Subject: Re: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name Well said bro! From: shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 21:31:24 Subject: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name I'm a fan from Bangladesh. Even though I'm not an Indian, i loved the track. After couple of hearing, i felt inspired. I knew that i may be biased,so went on giving the song to all my friends, and even family members, and honestly speaking everyone loved it. It's a truly international, stimulating anthem. Even though with ARR's talent he could have done wonders with this song, but he kept it pretty simple. And i think it's because he wanted it to reach all the masses. But for the last two days i can only see negativity coming from the media, which is very saddening.There are only pointing to those few comments that went against the song, but completely have been ignoring the thousands of positive comments and love towards the CWH theme song. When i went to the theme blog, i only saw good, sublime comments. Yes, there's definitely some people who did;t like the song. When for the first time waka waka and waving flag came out, hundreds of blogers and reviewers totally wrote these songs off. But look at them now. Different people have different perspectives, that's normal. Not everyone will love your work. But after reading the Indian newspapers and couple of senior crappy composer's comments, it seems that they were waiting for rahman's CWG song to be released, and pounded like a shameless naked cat on it and started bashing it. I read an article on this song in mailtoday i guess. The reporter(i'm sure is an owner of zero musical knowledge) was constantly dragging the fact that AR Rahman was paid 5.5 crore for it. What a cheap shot. Shame on that reporter and the editor, Shame on you ppl. He earned it. They were insisting on the fact that indian Govt' shoud have hired shakira or other international artists. I don't get it He is a double oscar winner. He himself is a global musical icon. He's achievements are far superior than any shakira or any xyz. Very sad, very disappointing. Even in this fan forum there are some ppl who are not supporting rahman, the way they should. Anyways, i loved the song and Can't wait the video to come out. Shakib A true rahmaniac
Re: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-)
I am just loving AR's vocals...there is something different...cant figure out what ...any one with any clues..let me know From: Nachiketha nachiketha...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 5:54:25 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) yes, i liked it a lot --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Arr Fan arr...@... wrote: The song is brilliant. I started loving it after repeated hearing on a headphone. - magic works for me, can't stop playing it again again now!!! From: jarjar jayram...@... To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 1:28:04 AM Subject: [arr] Re: CWG Theme song is just superb... :-) Takkar Song... As they say in Tamil takkar means superb song. Great beat, melody and superb mix of traditional instruments too. I am sure this is going to rock India for some time... Thanks ARR Sir... Anyone anyone.. please post the translation !! please !!! Jai Ho, Jayram Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? b Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com Admin: ad...@arrahmanfans.com To Subscribe: arrahmanfans-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.comyahoo! Groups Links
Re: [arr] Who wrote the CWG song?
Hi Vijay could we have the full credits of the CWG song? Eager to know who else have sung besides ARR! Regards Neevan From: Vijay Mohan Iyer vi...@kmmusiq.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, 30 August 2010 22:27:01 Subject: Re: [arr] Who wrote the CWG song? Mehboob On Aug 30, 2010 6:52 PM, Aakarsh aakarsh...@yahoo.com wrote: Who wrote the song? A lot of talk is going on about the CWG song and the responses to it. But any idea who wrote the lyrics? Regards Aakarsh
Re: [arr] Who wrote the CWG song?
its written by mehboob.,who wrote maa tujhe salam,jiya se jiya,bombay,rangeela. On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 6:48 PM IST Aakarsh wrote: Who wrote the song? A lot of talk is going on about the CWG song and the responses to it. But any idea who wrote the lyrics? Regards Aakarsh
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
hey,folks.. U guys always cum up with the same thread of 90's rahman and present one.. I totally agree with Aj on this.. Man that is what keeps rahman from all other MD's.,he has evolved from being a synth based composer to a composer needed/most adored by all ace filmmaker.. On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 7:23 PM IST AJ wrote: yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. I was expecting this same exact response from you, Taimur. You're very predictable. What you said is only your opinion. Most people in this group and elsewhere would not agree with you about that. I like the ARR today just as much as ARR of yesterday. What I wrote were just observations of trends, not a judgment of what I like more or what ARR has lost over the years. ARR has changedand to me, that's it. What I miss from ARR today is compensated by what ARR didn't emphasize before but now is emphasizing as a more mature and seasoned composerlike symphonic refinement, greater genre diversity, and more varied global styles and textures. He has expanded his repertoire and you don't hear anyone calling him repetitive anymore, a label that stuck with him by critics back in the 1990s. I like today's ARR just as much as the ARR of yesterday. Maybe you don't, but many people here in this group and elsewhere feel that ARR has changed and grown, matured as a composer, emphasizing more global music. And the Indian ARR is very much aliveKhwaja Mere Khwaja, Man Mohanna, Maula Maula, Khili Re, Ranjha Ranjha, Tere Bina, Aye Hairathe Aashiqui, Jashne Bahaar..etc. etc. I made a compilation CD of my favorites from ARR and Mani Ratnam, putting old and new songs side by side and listening to all them together. I get the same number of goosebumps when I hear Tu Hi Re or E Ajnabi as I do when I hear Behene De or Ranjha Ranjha or Tere Bina. Which song one likes better is only a matter of opinion, not truth. For me, the feelings I get when I listen to old ARR are matched by the feelings I get when I listen to new ARR. I just go with the flow and I keep nostalgia in check. You have very little insight into how nostalgia plays a role into judging music from the past. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes.   yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music.  today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is.  when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day.  and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW.  REGARDS,  taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@... wrote: From: AJ purev...@... Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM  Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE
[arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
[arr] CWG and sitar!!
amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!!
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
Please, this is not an Argument or Comparison thread. AJ has just penned out how ARR's Roja is fresh as of date. And yeah, who will not like he just creates an album just similar like that of Roja. Insha Allah, we hope this happens any time in future. When he just sit back and relaxingly compose some music, despite of doing it on a tight schedule. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 6:40 PM, hibath rahman rahman...@yahoo.com wrote: hey,folks.. U guys always cum up with the same thread of 90's rahman and present one.. I totally agree with Aj on this.. Man that is what keeps rahman from all other MD's.,he has evolved from being a synth based composer to a composer needed/most adored by all ace filmmaker.. On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 7:23 PM IST AJ wrote: yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. I was expecting this same exact response from you, Taimur. You're very predictable. What you said is only your opinion. Most people in this group and elsewhere would not agree with you about that. I like the ARR today just as much as ARR of yesterday. What I wrote were just observations of trends, not a judgment of what I like more or what ARR has lost over the years. ARR has changedand to me, that's it. What I miss from ARR today is compensated by what ARR didn't emphasize before but now is emphasizing as a more mature and seasoned composerlike symphonic refinement, greater genre diversity, and more varied global styles and textures. He has expanded his repertoire and you don't hear anyone calling him repetitive anymore, a label that stuck with him by critics back in the 1990s. I like today's ARR just as much as the ARR of yesterday. Maybe you don't, but many people here in this group and elsewhere feel that ARR has changed and grown, matured as a composer, emphasizing more global music. And the Indian ARR is very much aliveKhwaja Mere Khwaja, Man Mohanna, Maula Maula, Khili Re, Ranjha Ranjha, Tere Bina, Aye Hairathe Aashiqui, Jashne Bahaar..etc. etc. I made a compilation CD of my favorites from ARR and Mani Ratnam, putting old and new songs side by side and listening to all them together. I get the same number of goosebumps when I hear Tu Hi Re or E Ajnabi as I do when I hear Behene De or Ranjha Ranjha or Tere Bina. Which song one likes better is only a matter of opinion, not truth. For me, the feelings I get when I listen to old ARR are matched by the feelings I get when I listen to new ARR. I just go with the flow and I keep nostalgia in check. You have very little insight into how nostalgia plays a role into judging music from the past. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com, Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@... wrote: AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes.   yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music.  today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is.  when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day.  and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW.  REGARDS,  taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@... wrote: From: AJ purev...@... Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM  Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops
Re: [arr] CWG and sitar!!
The sitar and guitar fusion is awesome. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:23, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!!
Re: [arr] CWG and sitar!!
Ashanti Omkar mentioned the backing vocals by Dhol foundation. Hope Gops confirms, whether it is correct credits ? On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!! -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] CWG and sitar!!
Official credits will be published in a day or two. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:37, Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com wrote: Ashanti Omkar mentioned the backing vocals by Dhol foundation. Hope Gops confirms, whether it is correct credits ? On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!! -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
[arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] CWG and sitar!!
I love this song... It brings lot of energy as you listen. Sorry haters please listen again or something else is wrong. Don't blame the composition... I don't need anything more for an event like this. On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: The sitar and guitar fusion is awesome. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:23, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!!
[arr] MY IDEA TO POPULARIZE CWC MUSIC...Request to rahman....
MY IDEA TO POPULARIZE CWC MUSIC...Request to rahman 1. Release release different version of the song like airtel tones. 2. Please use Shankar mahadeven as a leading singer coz he is damn good in live concerts as a singer. 3. Let a r rahman n shankar mahadevan sing the song together in opening ceremony coz i dont think rahman is a good singer at live concerts. hope you guys like my suggestions.. pls reply
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
well captured Madhavan... there's a variation in rhythms in the last part, some south indian folkish and bhangra beats... folk's listen again... this ... slow... poison... is... getting... into... my... blood... can't stop listening to it :-) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.comwrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate! -- www.berginroy.com
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
Same here, happened this past weekend. usually my daughter (age - 2) wants to listen to the trio Sharon lois bram in car and was crying to play her fav songs. I just wanted to play something for me and played Roja. but when chinna chinna aasai (choti si asha) started, she just calmed down and started enjoying... So soothing to listen to and so fresh as AJ said... Others she lets us listen are.. * Jai ho - the biggest pacifier, we use :) * VTV songs - esp - Hosana :) Cheers, Bergin On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 10:34 PM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there. -- www.berginroy.com
[arr] Re: CWG and sitar!!
When I had heard the low quality bit I was not at all impressed and with lot of negative comments pouring in, it held me back for a while. Today morning I got a good quality audio and still was hesitant to give a try. I am very sorry for being so. At noon, I thought for a while AR is the master of themes like Tamizha Tamizha, Bombay, Ad composition like Airtel Worldspace also Jiya se Jiya. So this couldn't be bad at all. So I made up my mind to give a fresh thought and just forget all those negative comments. And the quality did not let me think anything wrong. It was great. The low quality had messed the guitar and had faded the sitar part so feel like I was a loser for 2 days. Now that I have a good quality file it is clearly the best. Gops could the best quality be uploaded as I feel one of the reason why ppl arent impressed are that they are either downloading the low quality bit or from Youtube Some place where I felt like complaining was opening of the song esp the line o yaaro, yeh India bula liya... It could have been a little poetic or a little word game. Also the portion rukhna rukhna rukhna nahin, harna harna harna nahin portion didn't impress me so much.. I think this could have been done like kahin rukhna nahin, kabhi haarna nahin with AR touching higher notes a little sharp (like the dilse re portion); its my thought only, need not be the best advise though. --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Bergin ber...@... wrote: I love this song... It brings lot of energy as you listen. Sorry haters please listen again or something else is wrong. Don't blame the composition... I don't need anything more for an event like this. On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:36 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@... wrote: The sitar and guitar fusion is awesome. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:23, Thulasi Ram karoke...@... wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!!
Re: [arr] Who wrote the CWG song?
we are working on the credits. should post it in sometime this week. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:03 PM, hibath rahman rahman...@yahoo.com wrote: its written by mehboob.,who wrote maa tujhe salam,jiya se jiya,bombay,rangeela. On Mon Aug 30th, 2010 6:48 PM IST Aakarsh wrote: Who wrote the song? A lot of talk is going on about the CWG song and the responses to it. But any idea who wrote the lyrics? Regards Aakarsh -- Thanks Vijay +91 93234 49747 www.arrahman.com www.facebook.com/arrahman www.twitter.com/arrahman
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Alphonse sir. I'm speechless at this awesome song... Nice cool, lively and peppy 'Abheri' (hope I am right about the Raga !!!) The 'Come out and play' has mixed with the song and tune so well like sugar in milk :) I just loved that flute (at around 1:41). simply loved it and when the tabla joined the proceedings (at about 1:48) it became ever so beautiful. Outstanding composition sir... excellent work. Love and regards from Pramod. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod.
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
I'm sorry, I missed one sweet thing. That lovely 'Thana na na...thadhina.' at the start after each 'come out and play'... is simply a delight :) Pramod. On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 12:08 AM, Pramod pramod...@gmail.com wrote: Alphonse sir. I'm speechless at this awesome song... Nice cool, lively and peppy 'Abheri' (hope I am right about the Raga !!!) The 'Come out and play' has mixed with the song and tune so well like sugar in milk :) I just loved that flute (at around 1:41). simply loved it and when the tabla joined the proceedings (at about 1:48) it became ever so beautiful. Outstanding composition sir... excellent work. Love and regards from Pramod. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.comwrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- Warm regards, Pramod. -- Warm regards, Pramod.
[arr] Azhage Sugama Karaoke please!
Does anyone have a karaoke track for azhage sugama? Preferably with the divine violin track? :) Please share with me. Thanks!! Diya
[arr] the thing about media
it was just impossible not to notice the kind of zeal and enthusiasm from the entire media in India to brand AR rahman as mediocre these days. the problem is, I believe it is also a reflection of the general mentality of the people in India. I might be wrong. But it seems to me that most of the Indians for some reason (it might be a cultural thing) don't like someone they love to become famous. The moment they find international stardom, indian media starts using everything in their power to give them a totally negative image. and when media starts saying stuff like that, the rest of the general public will join in. because most of the people have this if it is on TV, it has to be true thing. And, with time it has turned into if it is on internet, it has to be true thing. It's not just AR Rahman though. Amitabh bachan (constantly under the media radar and bad press), Aishwarya Rai bachan.. well the entire Bachan Khandaan. Ilaya Raja ( I remember reading about some actor claiming that the down fall of Ilayaraja was his arrogance), Vishwanathan Anand, most of the cricket players, Shashi Taroor - sorry to bring up a politician's name.. but his tweets have become quiet notorious for all the wrong reasons. it's just that media couldn't understand a thing he was saying. they took it quiet literally. This thing was inevitable. and we could all feel it coming. even members in our group had started bashing his music vigorously in the past 2 or three years. now in the next few years, Ar RAhman's music will be under constant scrutiny by the media and those who don't like him will joyously join the parade. We are going to see a lot more of bad press on AR pretty soon. even if the songs in the upcoming albums are phenomenal, they will call it mediocre. mark my word. this is how the media works. they like underdogs. because it gives them a story to write about. media loved AR when he was known only in India. they praised his songs and bashed Ilayaraja and the rest of the musicians. now it is time for AR to be in the receiving end. now we have to see how AR and his team will handle such things. I still think that taking up the CWG theme song project was probably a bad decision. but no one anticipated it. quiet sad to see such a great song being criticized and called mediocre just because the musician is famous!
Re: [arr] MY IDEA TO POPULARIZE CWC MUSIC...Request to rahman....
and give back that damned 5.5 crore if that is possible. the media seems to be making a big thing about it. (this post of mine shouldn't be taken seriously. lol. I am on crack) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 11:34 PM, haris zeenath hariszeen...@yahoo.co.inwrote: *MY IDEA TO POPULARIZE CWC MUSIC...Request to rahman 1. Release release different version of the song like airtel tones. 2. Please use Shankar mahadeven as a leading singer coz he is damn good in live concerts as a singer. 3. Let a r rahman n shankar mahadevan sing the song together in opening ceremony coz i dont think rahman is a good singer at live concerts.* *hope you guys like my suggestions.. pls reply * -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O
Apparently none of the people complaining about the CWG song even bothered to check the theme song for 2006 Commonwealth Games. Here's Delta Goodrem singing Together We Are One Each host nation has a different interpretation of what they want in the theme song for CWG. They all don't have to be fast-paced and anthem-like. It depends on what the GoI or IOC wanted ARR to showcase in the song. Judge it based on the context. I had hoped to see a larger contribution from ARR towards the music of the CWG. It really was an opportunity to do a large orchestral work were he to score the Opening Ceremony. Score fans should seek out the cd to the 2006 CWG Opening Ceremony. It contains music by Australian composer Christopher Gordon and is nothing short of fantastic. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commonwealth_Games:_Melbourne_2006_Opening_Ceremony And if you want more Gordon goodness- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF7SD-JbXwU From: Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sun, August 29, 2010 7:07:31 PM Subject: [arr] Jai Ho pulse missing from Rahman's Games Hey-O http://epaper.mailtoday.in/3082010/epaperimages/3082010/3082010-md-hr-19/124848578.jpg
Re: [arr] If expectations often lead to disappointments, then why have expectations in the first place?
Seriously i never had any expectations on any of the ARR releases !! I just know the plot of film..and think if i was the director/composer of the film what kinda music i would add to this kinda film !! and nothing else !! it's such a natural process for me ..may be that is why i am loving every ARR release to the core !! Dont know if i am the only one here ! Many says Ghajni wasnt good enough ,think about having any other songs(of your choice) in Ghajni ..it wont match with the film !! Music is for the film , Film is not for the music ! Same rule applies for whatever the reason u r giving on NOT liking one album/song !! It wasnt there for anyone to like it !! it was put there to uplift the story of the film !! if someone likes it ,that's extra !! Let's not comment about those people who got a limited music sense !! Like of Mr. Manna dey said How can u sing a patriotic song in that high note , what kinda singing is this ? ( on commenting about Vande mataram) .. In an recent interview he went on to say Nowadays we cant tell who is the singer of any songs like old days .. LOL .. seriously these kinda people also exists !! but the sad part is, even some Young people acting like these older,Wiser people !! if you think an ARR album is mediocre when everybody else is liking the album very much , then i think it's high time you should start composing an album better than that of ARR ! But ofcourse you have the right to express yourselves.But therez always a thing called misusing things !! Dont try to be over-smart by bashing ARR songs just to gain LOT of attention..U r just damaging ur own image ( if u atleast have any). Anyway loving every bit of the CWG theme !! and on the way to create a mix of some of my fav ARR BGMs and songs !! :-) ( Sorry if i went bit off-topic here , i couldnt control myself after seeing some childish behavior of some users here ) On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 7:26 PM, Neevan vyrus_...@yahoo.com wrote: -- *- Regards ~ ~ A.R.Rajib ~ ~*
[arr]problems with the CWG song
guys, honestly i love the song but ...i think the main problem and the critcizm that is going on is becoz of the '5.5 cr' price tag ...this alone have increased the expectations to other universe it selfbut i really think that 'maa tujhe salam; is worth more than 10 crore...clearly those who disappointed with the song is expecting another maa tujhe salam which i think is ridiculous...if u really want maa tujhe salam like a song then better play the song itself for the CW why create another one...?inspirational song will inspire u straight away,no need time for it to grow..if it doesnt inspire u nor gives u a spirit ,that means the song have failed for its purpose...for example the K'naan song for the world cup 'Wavin flag'..that song doesnt need time at all...[but if u listen to other K'naan's songs u wont wave ur flag] i seriously dont think shakira's waka waka is anywhere near to this song... but the english rap part in the song is soo flat..but the ending with bangra style was awesome listen to it without thinking it was made for CW..then u will feel it i pity or boss for the critisizm he is facing now shai, * smileys just for fun .
Re: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name
Well Written ! --- On Mon, 8/30/10, shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com wrote: From: shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 6:31 AM I'm a fan from Bangladesh. Even though I'm not an Indian, i loved the track. After couple of hearing, i felt inspired. I knew that i may be biased,so went on giving the song to all my friends, and even family members, and honestly speaking everyone loved it. It's a truly international, stimulating anthem. Even though with ARR's talent he could have done wonders with this song, but he kept it pretty simple. And i think it's because he wanted it to reach all the masses. But for the last two days i can only see negativity coming from the media, which is very saddening.There are only pointing to those few comments that went against the song, but completely have been ignoring the thousands of positive comments and love towards the CWH theme song. When i went to the theme blog, i only saw good, sublime comments. Yes, there's definitely some people who did;t like the song. When for the first time waka waka and waving flag came out, hundreds of blogers and reviewers totally wrote these songs off. But look at them now. Different people have different perspectives, that's normal. Not everyone will love your work. But after reading the Indian newspapers and couple of senior crappy composer's comments, it seems that they were waiting for rahman's CWG song to be released, and pounded like a shameless naked cat on it and started bashing it. I read an article on this song in mailtoday i guess. The reporter(i'm sure is an owner of zero musical knowledge) was constantly dragging the fact that AR Rahman was paid 5.5 crore for it. What a cheap shot. Shame on that reporter and the editor, Shame on you ppl. He earned it. They were insisting on the fact that indian Govt' shoud have hired shakira or other international artists. I don't get it He is a double oscar winner. He himself is a global musical icon. He's achievements are far superior than any shakira or any xyz. Very sad, very disappointing. Even in this fan forum there are some ppl who are not supporting rahman, the way they should. Anyways, i loved the song and Can't wait the video to come out. Shakib A true rahmaniac
[arr] CWG song issue .. What do ARR thinks...?
This issue might be hurted him very much... I think he didn't suffer such an unwanted criticisms , opinions etc yet in his career. Someone even said that why couldn't the CWG committee arrange an artist from abroad.. Just imagine the current condition of AR.. -- * * *Regards * *MANAF *
Re: [arr] Rahman magic on the wane, say music lovers
let me bookmark this article. i cant restrict to think that media is highlighting negative reviews just to make sure ARR doesnt create another vande mataram. but wait and c. their back side will burn after history is created. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 1:13 PM, SaiRam K ram4frie...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.deccanchronicle.com/hyderabad/rahman-magic-wane-say-music-lovers-415 Hyderabad/Chennai, Aug. 28: The theme song for the Commonwealth Games Jiyo Utho Badho Jeeto, composed by A.R. Rahman received mixed reviews from music lovers. “I usually like Rahman’s songs. I heard him sing the song and it was like any other song. I guess he is slowly losing his flavour. Shakira has her own sex appeal and Waka Waka was catchy. Of late, people are liking whatever he does for the brand he is rather than the music he composes,” said Raghu, an upcoming playback singer. “I had lots of expectations from his CWG composition. I just heard a bit of it and it is just average. I felt I heard similar songs before. I don’t know if he is overworked or saturated but Rahman’s touch is waning,” said a senior music composer on condition of anonymity. Music director Radhakrishna, who had not liked a couple of the songs composed by Rahman in his last Telugu film Em Maya Chesave, said, “He is singing this song and surely knows he will get a lot of publicity out of this event. The song will be downloaded and played by the media several times. Even if it is not that great, people will start liking it as television and radio stations will play it again and again. Rahman’s show in the city was a flop when he came here. It’s not that everything he composes is great.” Singer Anuj Gurwara, who heard the song online, said that it would be some time before people liked the song. “It is a typical Rahman number and will take time to grow on you. Initially people might think it is just an average composition but I will still wait for a few more weeks to see the public reaction,” he said. Avid music buffs too felt that it was Rahman’s image that made people like whatever he composed rather than the music. “His songs of late are not what they were and the CWG one is no exception. I felt his song for CWG was so similar to what he did before. Comparing himself to Shakira is a joke. She is a stage performer with energy and sex appeal. I guess his stardom is getting on his head now,” said Mr Srikanth N. an engineering student learning classical music. However, Kollywood, Rahman’s home industry, backed him up saying the music is very typical of Rahman. Ramya, popular DJ and TV anchor, said, “Most ARR compositions would be a bit unusual and difficult to understand in the beginning; only by repeated listening will we start liking them. That’s what happened even with his latest Enthiran music. Nobody liked the music on the first day of the CD release but now people are going gaga over it.” But, software professional Vikram Mohan, 28, however, said that the score did not strike a chord with him. “The tune was not catchy and seems eminently forgettable. Compared to Shakira’s Waka Waka and other sports anthems, Rahman’s composition falls flat,” he said.
[arr] Re: Translation of cwg theme
Yes, plz someone provide the translation, The song is just rocking..!! --- In arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com, Elanchezhian V elan_rahman_ka...@... wrote: The song is simply awesome...No matter what others say,i am simply loving it and would definitely listen it forever...Could some1 be kind enough to post the translations?...Cos i feel i connect with a song better if i know the meaningSo can some1 do it?...Thanks in advance...
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Nice song... I liked the tempo that keeps the mood intact. Cheers Bergin On Aug 30, 2010, at 1:28 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33
Re: [arr] CWG and sitar!!
Eager to know who did the guitar piece. On Aug 30, 2010, at 12:44 PM, Gopal Srinivasan catchg...@gmail.com wrote: Official credits will be published in a day or two. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 12:37, Farzad Khaleel farsad...@gmail.com wrote: Ashanti Omkar mentioned the backing vocals by Dhol foundation. Hope Gops confirms, whether it is correct credits ? On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:23 PM, Thulasi Ram karoke...@gmail.com wrote: amazing bits isnt? loving it. laagire ab laagire lagan! with sitar bits and ARRs oh oh backup.., followed by rap section.. ware wah! excellent!! -- Farzad Khaleel www.rahmaniac.com
Re: [arr] CWG - welcome song from Kerala (Music - Alphons)
Pure. Awesomeness. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 10:58 PM, Alphons Joseph alpho...@yahoo.com wrote: Just go to the link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mp_I5TyKgE Music : Alphons Lyrics : B.R Prasad Singer : Shankar Mahadevan Rap by : Geethu Give me your valuable feedbacks. Regards. ALPHONS JOSEPH MUSIC DIRECTOR 3E, INFRA HILLOCK Phase III Changampuzha Nagar South Kalamassery Cochin-33 -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] the thing about media
u r 100% correct roshan From: Roshan c.pix...@gmail.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 11:13:49 PM Subject: [arr] the thing about media it was just impossible not to notice the kind of zeal and enthusiasm from the entire media in India to brand AR rahman as mediocre these days. the problem is, I believe it is also a reflection of the general mentality of the people in India. I might be wrong. But it seems to me that most of the Indians for some reason (it might be a cultural thing) don't like someone they love to become famous. The moment they find international stardom, indian media starts using everything in their power to give them a totally negative image. and when media starts saying stuff like that, the rest of the general public will join in. because most of the people have this if it is on TV, it has to be true thing. And, with time it has turned into if it is on internet, it has to be true thing. It's not just AR Rahman though. Amitabh bachan (constantly under the media radar and bad press), Aishwarya Rai bachan.. well the entire Bachan Khandaan. Ilaya Raja ( I remember reading about some actor claiming that the down fall of Ilayaraja was his arrogance), Vishwanathan Anand, most of the cricket players, Shashi Taroor - sorry to bring up a politician's name.. but his tweets have become quiet notorious for all the wrong reasons. it's just that media couldn't understand a thing he was saying. they took it quiet literally. This thing was inevitable. and we could all feel it coming. even members in our group had started bashing his music vigorously in the past 2 or three years. now in the next few years, Ar RAhman's music will be under constant scrutiny by the media and those who don't like him will joyously join the parade. We are going to see a lot more of bad press on AR pretty soon. even if the songs in the upcoming albums are phenomenal, they will call it mediocre. mark my word. this is how the media works. they like underdogs. because it gives them a story to write about. media loved AR when he was known only in India. they praised his songs and bashed Ilayaraja and the rest of the musicians. now it is time for AR to be in the receiving end. now we have to see how AR and his team will handle such things. I still think that taking up the CWG theme song project was probably a bad decision. but no one anticipated it. quiet sad to see such a great song being criticized and called mediocre just because the musician is famous!
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
that inspires me to listen to some of his old songs as well.. starting with Roja now :) great post, AJ On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 8:04 AM, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions. Tu Hi Re is a great example of that. I hope you understand what I mean. Again, these are just observations of mine. I like his past songs equally to his current songs in general, but there are some broad differences, signifying Rahman's evolution as an artist and adding and subtracting elements of his compositional style and sound over time. I am just bowled over how NONE of his songs from the 1990s sound outdated whatsoever even today. That says volumes. One more thing..songs in those days...1990s to early 2000s in general were more Indian soundingnot just with ARR, but with other MDs too. The trend in bollywood and perhaps other industries too is to have more Western and global musical styles in film music with gradual shifting away from the ethnic Indian flavor of songs.not completely, but the trend is there. ARR too used to have more ethnic Indian sounding albums back then, even for contemporary films like Saathiya, Taal, Dil Se that were not period films. Later, the Ethnic Indian sound would be confined mostly to period film scores or situational numbers, but with some exceptions. Delhi 6, Raavan, and Jodha Akbar are the 3 most Indian sounding albums recently and look how beautifully all 3 music albums were received and raved about. I think a lot of people are missing more of the Indian Rahman. Rahman's music over time has become more international and less Indian as a general trendagain with exceptions here and there. -- --- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org
Re: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name
Dear rahmanic Thanks for your support, its really shame for those who comment negatively on ARR, he is god's gift to indian people, we should be proud of him to have in our country. BHARAT RATNA is still waiting for his pick-up,,,. guru --- On Mon, 8/30/10, shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com wrote: From: shakib9_9 shakib...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] The bleak response of midea in pursuit of bashing ARR's and CWG's name To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 7:01 PM I'm a fan from Bangladesh. Even though I'm not an Indian, i loved the track. After couple of hearing, i felt inspired. I knew that i may be biased,so went on giving the song to all my friends, and even family members, and honestly speaking everyone loved it. It's a truly international, stimulating anthem. Even though with ARR's talent he could have done wonders with this song, but he kept it pretty simple. And i think it's because he wanted it to reach all the masses. But for the last two days i can only see negativity coming from the media, which is very saddening.There are only pointing to those few comments that went against the song, but completely have been ignoring the thousands of positive comments and love towards the CWH theme song. When i went to the theme blog, i only saw good, sublime comments. Yes, there's definitely some people who did;t like the song. When for the first time waka waka and waving flag came out, hundreds of blogers and reviewers totally wrote these songs off. But look at them now. Different people have different perspectives, that's normal. Not everyone will love your work. But after reading the Indian newspapers and couple of senior crappy composer's comments, it seems that they were waiting for rahman's CWG song to be released, and pounded like a shameless naked cat on it and started bashing it. I read an article on this song in mailtoday i guess. The reporter(i'm sure is an owner of zero musical knowledge) was constantly dragging the fact that AR Rahman was paid 5.5 crore for it. What a cheap shot. Shame on that reporter and the editor, Shame on you ppl. He earned it. They were insisting on the fact that indian Govt' shoud have hired shakira or other international artists. I don't get it He is a double oscar winner. He himself is a global musical icon. He's achievements are far superior than any shakira or any xyz. Very sad, very disappointing. Even in this fan forum there are some ppl who are not supporting rahman, the way they should. Anyways, i loved the song and Can't wait the video to come out. Shakib A true rahmaniac
Re: [arr] Roja..........still sounds amazing........and my take on general trends....
You've hit the right chords Ram! How was Dil Se Re indian!? Or the music in Thiruda... or most of the 90's creation! I am not an Indian and I never used to listen to any.. I loved ARR and for the first time not because of his Indian-ness. I never fell in love with any other musician so madly because none come close of Rahman's sheer originality and unique brilliance! And over the years I have been and am fan of many international artistes (i wont go on to put examples coz it would be a very, very long listing) but never could I respect anyone more than Rahman. Will be waiting for you writ-up :) -Moin Ali From: Ram Motipally mramvina...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 8:05:44 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends Friends, I have a slightly different opinion. AJ is right, but I think we are jumping to a conclusion here and it is very fair, its human nature. We all are struggling to find the answer about what is different from AR's music of the 90s and say now, so any answer that might sound reasonable at the surface, there is a danger of one accepting it, just to get rid of the bother of the question. I am myself struggling to find an answer to this question...just like many of you. Roja when it was released in 1990 was a path breaker in all aspects. Chinni Chinni had a reggae rhythm. How can it be called pure Indian ? AR's brilliance has always been in fusing indian tunes and sounds with western genres. Songs of gentleman and thiruda thiruda were equally criticized by some in the 1990s saying they are plastic music, computer music and too western. Just go back in that time period and think for yourself, werent these albums way ahead of its times in the India of the 90s ? Is nostalgia messing with our minds again ??? I would like to call this sweet pain ! And for now, listen to VTV and the same indian ness comes through. Mannipaya is pure indianness by any AR song standard. AR's repertoire has evolved and there is a distinct difference in his work of now from the 90s. It is different. I will though not say one is better than the other. Which other music director has inflicted so much pain (sweet pain) in analyzing the music and messing with our own emotions ? How can one who has suffered this sweet pain, not be an AR fan ... I plan to write something on what AR's music means to me.for those interested, stay tuned Ram From: Taimur Nadeem taimur.nad...@yahoo.com To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com; purev...@yahoo.com Sent: Mon, August 30, 2010 4:24:08 AM Subject: Re: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends AJ you hit the bulls eye the INDIAN A R RAHMAN , the indian flavour in contemporary music no matter what genre A R RAHMAN took , thats what used to be in SIR'S music. that made him unique, just one in the world. that made him a musical wizard , combining the beauty of indian music with modern themes. yes i miss that A R RAHMAN. but the problem is raavan d6 JA didnt had the magic of that standard of music. today A R RAHMAN's muisc is mixing up with west , uniqueness lacking. take DILse , saaathiya , hum se hai muqabla, jeans ,thiruda thiruda contemporary indian music at its peak . the music of these albums is completely unique . even take lagaan meenaxi mangal panday classic these three albums are. take Maa tijhe salam wow wow , what contemporary masterpiece it is. when A R RAHMAN used to sit in small dark studio in chennai , he produced world class music, now that he has studio's in every corner of the world , he is famous in every corner of the world , he has lost universality in his music, i feel . A R RAHMAN will surely return back to his indian magic one day. and tell you first time i have affirmed your mail WOW. REGARDS, taimur --- On Mon, 8/30/10, AJ purev...@yahoo.com wrote: From: AJ purev...@yahoo.com Subject: [arr] Roja..still sounds amazingand my take on general trends To: arrahmanfans@yahoogroups.com Date: Monday, August 30, 2010, 2:34 AM Can't believe it...heard Roja today after ages and the sounds are still so clean, fresh, and breezy...not sounding that outdated at all, despite it being 18 years old. Amazing compositions for ARR's debut..melodious, sweet, earthy, straight to the heart. If there was one thing that I liked about ARR of the 90s that I don't hear much of these days is that ARR's songs back then had a lot more breathing room...there was more space in the songs and the song arrangements were not as dense as they are today. The songs just breathed easier back then it seems, if I were to make a very broad and general comparison to today's songs. ARR also used minimal loops and more spacious arrangements, so you could hear more of silence in the slower compositions
Re: [arr] CWG Song is thumping and inspiring!!
after trying various earphones, i finally narrowed down at Altec Lansing and started using it from puli. CWG song sounds exceptional. On Mon, Aug 30, 2010 at 5:29 PM, Madhavan Rajan rsamadhu2...@gmail.comwrote: Believe it or not!! I just got an opportunity to listen to the song using my Bose headphones, though I listened to the song earlier in some cheap speakers...I must say it gave me goosebumps throughout the song...The vocals are very crisp and AR has rendered it perfectly...The pallavi was accompanied by very pleasant humming...Now comes the strumming guitar with the claps and the killer beat that is just too good to set the mood of the theme song...When he sings the charanam parts, he sets the mood like go-get-it with confidence...The rap bit suits the mood well without altering the tempo of the song...Loved the Sitar and the Shakers that travels ear to ear...The ending is a perfect crowd-puller, more of a celebration with the funky drum beats; if you notice clearly, the pattern and the tempo of the beats vary throughout the ending, just perfect, and not like a regular dabbankuthu...Before criticising, Let's go and listen to it again :-) -- Cheers, Madhavan.R Be a Music Fan; not a Music Pirate!
