[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on Holy Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10). not bad about a 75, lees arcade was never operated by j pallotto, he leased across the arcade in the stores north of the paramount exit , not vetranos dart stand, morty silver leased lees he was a shill or bag man for ray kramer, that is why joey gave out sodas and free games to drive him out of business, which he did, til the peanut man whispering marv burned him out,loved those old pac man games when the fish puts one in the challenge is on, peace be with you, and all trying to make this city great again. --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time
Ed Johnson made a post on the other Asbury board stating that the C-8 date is not final. Hmmm sounds a bit funny to me. Maybe Metro is now worried about this lawsuit?dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, "Fred" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan, hire Jimmy AAron and maybe you could win. Yes, I hear the judges and him were all brought in by the same person. But I wouldn't have him if he paid me. Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. SPONSORED LINKS Asbury park home Asbury park nj Asbury park hotel Asbury park foreclosure Asbury park real estate Asbury park YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Allan Peterson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ed Johnson is just playing it safe. It's costing Metro Homes alot of money in interest, I doubt very much they are scared of a lawsuit, they have millions of dollars already invested. I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and fireworks. Ed Johnson made a post on the other Asbury board stating that the C-8 date is not final. Hmmm sounds a bit funny to me. Maybe Metro is now worried about this lawsuit? dfsavgny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: Dan, hire Jimmy AAron and maybe you could win. Yes, I hear the judges and him were all brought in by the same person. But I wouldn't have him if he paid me. - YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group AsburyPark on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. - - Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] The Fast Lane
Hi All, I'm a quiet lurker here, but the Fast Lane brings back a lot of memories for me. In the early 80's, Asbury Park was already down on her luck but the clubs were a draw. I was at Georgian Court College through most of that time (all women's Catholic colleges are not a hotbed of activity on the weekends especially when the nearest mens' school is a Yeshiva). Asbury was our usual destination. I went to one of my first concerts at the Fast Lane. I saw Jorma Koukenan (former guitarist for Jefferson Airplane and I'm sure I botched the spelling of his name). I was 17 and borrowed an older friend's ID. The drinking age back then was still 19. Didn't the Fast Lane have padded floors to sit on when there were concerts? There were not seats. I remember that. I don't think the draw was Jorma. He was already a trivia question by then. I think the draw was something to do, someplace to go here at the shore. It wasn't a huge train ride to NYC or worse driving down Route 70 through miles of Pine Barrens to Philly. It was here. We also used to go to other clubs like Mrs. Jay's all through college. I remember the painting on the wall of an old lady in a rocking chair. I think it said "Mrs. Jay's: We were here when you were born". I came back to work in a nonprofit in Asbury Park in 1994. Nothing was there anymore not even the places from before I was born. When I gave directions to my clients I was always saying "do you remember where x used to be?" It was very sad. The landmarks were gone. People used to tease me because I believed in Asbury coming back. I still do, but people aren't teasing anymore.Now they want to know what's going on. I don't think places like the Fast Lane or the Baronet are dumps. I know that they don't build things like the Baronet anymore. Don't people go to the Count Basie? I think if you restore it that people will come. There still isn't a whole lot to do here at the shore. Well unless you enjoy shopping in department stores. I know if there were theatres like the Baronet that I would go. I know my friends now wait to hear about the new restaurants I've tried. I know a lot of my friends who used to go into the city for dinner now say they're going to Asbury Park. I know that people came to Asbury Park in the pre-first redevelopment era to go to clubs like the Fast Lane Mrs Jay's. Most of my old friends are now going to NY or Red Bank for theatre and dinner. I don't see why they wouldn't come to Asbury again. I think they just have to know it's there and they will. Jennifer YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "AsburyPark" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the rest. Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the name Johnny Cag. Could be a different guy though. T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son. RIP. Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli. Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his younger brother Micheal. Butch B = Butch from the Pony? The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by 7 years. The rest of your friends I might remember with more info. As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about 5 or 6 when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you mean 7th ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every year through my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the time. As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention hall. Jimmy Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had high score on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in pin ball to this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was owned by Joe Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on Holy Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10). What year did you graduate APHS? On what street did you grow up? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty lighty@ wrote: Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet. hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10 more years , it was the first and only theatre in the area to show woodstock, the movie bb or should it be bs because none of us oldtimers remember you or yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here partied here, dont remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades etc., later attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in the 80s , 90s, etc. dont remember you , you are a living legend in your mind only, you have been present and vocal since you got your job, god bless you, west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the true definition fron the 60s 70s oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late great comedian andy devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY, peace to all but do not bull shit someone whos been here longer than all of you, you insult people like myself, and others such as chico ducky joey p. johnny cag, t rozza, nicky al, the weathwerman, fat tommy , butch b. , lenny, frank n.stein, the filiosas, the late d. lewis,spike musto, d. klinger i could go on for ever, get real guys do not talk about the past unless you truly lived it which you did not stop wanting to be wannabes like i said that was the past,i was fortunate enough to lived thru it, (thank god for h. bolger) lets go to the future and work together for a better city, drop the false represntations the egos get real or continue buying postcards, your choice. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is
[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and fireworks. What is there to be parading about?? The public was promised certain performence, that if the existing frame had to come down the site would be limited to the design controls of the Plan. No higher than 8 stories The public was lied to, The Council played a three-card-monte with the PLANs no one seems to care. The press is playing this up to be a great event, that the huge eyesore is going away. That point may hold water, however... Do they mention that the New building will be twice as big, topping out at 16 an 12 stories compared to the single 10 floor tower being demolished. Do they mention hat the City received nothing in return for the increased building size. Condo, Condos, everywhere as far as the eye can see... That is hardly the restoration or rebirth of Asbury Park. The City is being badly remodeled by leaders who have lost control, or never really had control of redevelopment. Even the recent praise for committing to restoration of the beachfront buildings is rediculous. It should have been well under way by years already. What a sad place this is where the vast majority have no clue as to the realities of this redevelopment and then praise any action taken however contrary to the public good and due process. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, wernerapnj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: Stop crying Werner, didn't you say you wanted more height? You anti re-developement guys can have a party too. Do you have a permit for those bricks your storing in your back yard from 4th. Ave? How many did you take so far 1000, 2000? ... I know they have a contact with the demo company for the 29th.The city should throw a big party with a parade and fireworks. What is there to be parading about?? The public was promised certain performence, that if the existing frame had to come down the site would be limited to the design controls of the Plan. No higher than 8 stories The public was lied to, The Council played a three-card-monte with the PLANs no one seems to care. The press is playing this up to be a great event, that the huge eyesore is going away. That point may hold water, however... Do they mention that the New building will be twice as big, topping out at 16 an 12 stories compared to the single 10 floor tower being demolished. Do they mention hat the City received nothing in return for the increased building size. Condo, Condos, everywhere as far as the eye can see... That is hardly the restoration or rebirth of Asbury Park. The City is being badly remodeled by leaders who have lost control, or never really had control of redevelopment. Even the recent praise for committing to restoration of the beachfront buildings is rediculous. It should have been well under way by years already. What a sad place this is where the vast majority have no clue as to the realities of this redevelopment and then praise any action taken however contrary to the public good and due process. Werner Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Lawsuit time
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stop crying Werner, didn't you say you wanted more height? You anti re-developement guys can have a party too. Do you have a permit for those bricks your storing in your back yard from 4th. Ave? How many did you take so far 1000, 2000? How ingorant of you to assert that I or anyone else is 'anti- redvelopment How do you make that conclusion? What I have been asking for is to remove the residential density from the core area of the oceanfront (between 1st Ave, 5th Ave, Kingsley, Ocean). And relocate that density (#of units) to north of the BC Hotel. That would free up the core of the oceanfront for rezoning back to traditional tourism, entertainment, etc, uses. That would create the critical mass of similar uses needed to assure the success of ConHall, Pavs, Casino, etc. Kindly explain how advocating for better land use and City Planning is anti-redevelopment. Werner (Mind your own bricks, they were taken with permission and will become my driveway.) Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D. You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you would have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20-30- 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and Teachers not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the rest. Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the name Johnny Cag. Could be a different guy though. T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son. RIP. Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli. Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his younger brother Micheal. Butch B = Butch from the Pony? The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by 7 years. The rest of your friends I might remember with more info. As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about 5 or 6 when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you mean 7th ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every year through my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the time. As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention hall. Jimmy Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had high score on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in pin ball to this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was owned by Joe Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on Holy Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10). What year did you graduate APHS? On what street did you grow up? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty lighty@ wrote: Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet. hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10 more years , it was the first and only theatre in the area to show woodstock, the movie bb or should it be bs because none of us oldtimers remember you or yourclaim to fame, mr asbury park,we grew up here partied here, dont remember you,from the pool, the bdwalk the arcades etc., later attended many council meetings, bd. meetings in the 80s , 90s, etc. dont remember you , you are a living legend in your mind only, you have been present and vocal since you got your job, god bless you, west side,drummond ave. wow thats stretching the true definition fron the 60s 70s oakdorf your sarcasim reminds me of that late great comedian andy devine, twang your magic twanger FROGGY,
[AsburyPark] Board of Education Election
Hello All April 18th is the Asbury Park Board of Education election. There are 4 seats open this year - 3 Three year terms and 1 two year term. This has been a quiet election so far, but soon you'll see the lawn signs popping up all over almost as a right of spring. Even though this is a quiet election year, it is very important that the voters of Asbury Park do not become complacent and feel that it doesn't matter whether you vote or not. Each vote is extremely important in this town and one vote can make a difference. We've seen it before. Also, if you are not going to be in town on April 18th, PLEASE send for an absentee ballot. Please feel free to e-mail me personally with any questions at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you, Robert DiSanto Candidate # 5 Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. wow,i thouhgt bb had a ego you may top his, but my sources confirm what you said, the bd. of ed. turned down an insurance proposal from a very reliable company, it fit all the criteria equal to or better than, it was much better than they have, at a 600 thousand savings, since frank d. will not respond since he considers it to fall under the sunshine law , which is bs, where are all the past critics be it the homeowners ass., etc. why do they not attack this bd. the way they attacked famularo et.al.? where is the consistency? oh there is none these boys are their friends! poor excuse, cmon guys and gals once you set double standards you lose all crediabilty, maybe it wont catch up to you today but it will in the long run. look yourself in the mirror tomorrow and say i was fair and equal to all, you can not, that is ashame, because you are deep down good people, wake up smell the coffee, be consistent. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the rest. Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the name Johnny Cag. Could be a different guy though. T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son. RIP. Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli. Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his younger brother Micheal. Butch B = Butch from the Pony? The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by 7 years. The rest of your friends I might remember with more info. As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about 5 or 6 when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you mean 7th ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every year through my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the time. As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention hall. Jimmy Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had high score on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in pin ball to this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was owned by Joe Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on Holy Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10). What year did you graduate APHS? On what street did you grow up? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Lighty lighty@ wrote: Hotel California get real Bruce Lee at the Baronet. hey fred get real you puppy, bruce lee, go back 10 more years , it was the first and only theatre in the area to show woodstock, the movie bb or
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D. You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you would have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20-30- 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and Teachers not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D. You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you would have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20- 30- 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and Teachers not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed.
[AsburyPark] Pinball.
BB, you're on): YOu guys forgot Dino (operator now of Dino's in Ursula Plaza, ducky's son). Zak and Nick of Nicks Arcade, where I spent man winters getting to be the first to play the new pins. Howard and Eddie of the Flame Pit and Waffe House. Eddie taught me how to make sure you don't get ripped off. Howie, the women and how to make an egg cream. Ollie and Family, who I am still friends with. Don't forget Stevie Res. And Dave Bryant, who packed up in the middle of the night and headed bakc to Olkahoma (1st Ave arcade) and Mrs Jamison, who finally packed up. Lee's arcade 0 Joker Poker. BB, if I get star trac fixed in my basement, you can come over and play... HOw about any of the baseball games pop,pop,pop. King of Diamonds at lees. I almost bought that at a yard sale. Off to Wildwood we go. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D. can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis? Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have destroyed that contract. Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D. You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you would have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20- 30- 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and Teachers not the Administators. You should get some good ideas from this group, God knows we know evrything about everything. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote:
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
most importantly, I forogt, the Kohr's and Criterion Girls.): I'd love to bring them all back, today. One big party. Summer love lasted until November. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
Obviously you missed the entire point. The first year was a come on. The second year, no matter what company, was going to be higher. As for the five year contract, once again, the source was wrong. It is 4 years, 1 left on the prior year and 3 more. And how would have Russ gotten rid of a contract. Maybe you could teach me how to that. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D. can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis? Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have destroyed that contract. Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D. You know it could have saved the city 600,000 dollars and you would have had the same coverage. How many layoffs are you facing? 20- 30- 40? You know they're going to go after the support staff and Teachers not the
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Tobacco Shop, The Beach Boys, Gina's Pizza, World Galleries,The Afican Bazarr. Kit Morris, Tamies, Chippy French Fries, Kohrs Orangeade, Nicks Arcade, Martells, Bubbleland. Memories are coming back. most importantly, I forogt, the Kohr's and Criterion Girls.): I'd love to bring them all back, today. One big party. Summer love lasted until November. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
Apoojo, You claim to adhere to the importance of anonymity for yourself, yet you are quick to divulge the identity of others. It seems to me if you really thought anonymity was important, you would respect it for others. Will you be so kind as to favor us with your name? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. wow,i thouhgt bb had a ego you may top his, but my sources confirm what you said, the bd. of ed. turned down an insurance proposal from a very reliable company, it fit all the criteria equal to or better than, it was much better than they have, at a 600 thousand savings, since frank d. will not respond since he considers it to fall under the sunshine law , which is bs, where are all the past critics be it the homeowners ass., etc. why do they not attack this bd. the way they attacked famularo et.al.? where is the consistency? oh there is none these boys are their friends! poor excuse, cmon guys and gals once you set double standards you lose all crediabilty, maybe it wont catch up to you today but it will in the long run. look yourself in the mirror tomorrow and say i was fair and equal to all, you can not, that is ashame, because you are deep down good people, wake up smell the coffee, be consistent. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the rest. Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the name Johnny Cag. Could be a different guy though. T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son. RIP. Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli. Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his younger brother Micheal. Butch B = Butch from the Pony? The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by 7 years. The rest of your friends I might remember with more info. As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about 5 or 6 when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you mean 7th ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every year through my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the time. As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention hall. Jimmy Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had high score on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in pin ball to this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was owned by Joe Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter years). Or in Werner and Frank D'Alessandro's new book on Holy Spirit (I saw a picture of me in there when I was 10). What year did you graduate APHS? On what street did you grow up? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com,
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
Beach Boy - Cheese Steaks! That and pin ball and my tip money from the lockers was gone each day. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: The Tobacco Shop, The Beach Boys, Gina's Pizza, World Galleries,The Afican Bazarr. Kit Morris, Tamies, Chippy French Fries, Kohrs Orangeade, Nicks Arcade, Martells, Bubbleland. Memories are coming back. most importantly, I forogt, the Kohr's and Criterion Girls.): I'd love to bring them all back, today. One big party. Summer love lasted until November. Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
umbrellas empress bayonne kohrs girls drinking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher? If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. Every monday morning he played a tape of the previous night's 60 minutes. Talk about a liberal! He made no bones about it that he was a socialist. How much of that was bait to get me going I don't know, but I spent a whole year debating with him. He'd probably get in trouble with Sean Hannity for doing that in class today, but I recollect that he wasn't preachy about it - he got us talking. Very inspiring to make us defend our point of view. He ran a great class. Good guy. Is he sill around? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D. can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis? Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have destroyed that contract. Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. So tell us why did the BOE not change Health Ins. companies? Some people(me) are saying it was the union that stopped it via Frank D.
[AsburyPark] Re: THE ELEMENT OF TIMING
I agree with you 100%--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apoojo, You claim to adhere to the importance of anonymity for yourself, yet you are quick to divulge the identity of others. It seems to me if you really thought anonymity was important, you would respect it for others. Will you be so kind as to favor us with your name? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apoojo apoojo@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and listens to your union. We should be honored to have the President of the teachers union in this group. Just for the record I'm the only one who really knows what's going on. Who am I? Let's just say a family member is in your union. wow,i thouhgt bb had a ego you may top his, but my sources confirm what you said, the bd. of ed. turned down an insurance proposal from a very reliable company, it fit all the criteria equal to or better than, it was much better than they have, at a 600 thousand savings, since frank d. will not respond since he considers it to fall under the sunshine law , which is bs, where are all the past critics be it the homeowners ass., etc. why do they not attack this bd. the way they attacked famularo et.al.? where is the consistency? oh there is none these boys are their friends! poor excuse, cmon guys and gals once you set double standards you lose all crediabilty, maybe it wont catch up to you today but it will in the long run. look yourself in the mirror tomorrow and say i was fair and equal to all, you can not, that is ashame, because you are deep down good people, wake up smell the coffee, be consistent. Well, you got me. Who are you? I thought I could sit by and learn a few things that my brother didn't let me know.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Hey Johnny boy. I'm getting a real good Asbury Park Education here. It's a good thing I know most of these names.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Well apoojo you seem to have the advantage of knowing who I am without me knowing who you are. The reason you don't remember me, based upon the names you brought up below, is that you are clearly a half generation older than I am. My guess is 7 to 10 years older. Just to prove to you I know a little something about your generation in AP, let's see if I can identify some of the people you are refering to below. Chico = I knew a guy they called Chee Chee from third ave. who I think was there the night Artie Dello was killed. Is that who you mean? Or do you mean Mr. C, but Mr. C is a bit older than you. Other than that I don't know. Ducky = Fornicola. Johnny Cag = I remember the name but I can't remember the rest. Caggiano? I'm recalling something about a store and the name Johnny Cag. Could be a different guy though. T Rozza = Tommy Rozza, Neil's brother and Blade's son. RIP. Nicky Al = Nicky Aldarelli. Fat Tommy = Tommy Aldarelli, RIP. I hung out with his younger brother Micheal. Butch B = Butch from the Pony? The Filosos = Friends with my oldest sister; she has me by 7 years. The rest of your friends I might remember with more info. As for the pool, if you mean the Monte Carlo, I was about 5 or 6 when they tore it out so I doubt you saw me there. If you mean 7th ave., my family shared a locker with JAP's family every year through my teens. Jimmy Condos (of JIMI) was a lifeguard at the time. As for Arcades, I hung out at Lee's inside convention hall. Jimmy Bruno worked there giving out change at the time. I had high score on Sinbad and Joker Poker and I'll gladly take you on in pin ball to this day to prove to you who I am. ;-) Later on it was owned by Joe Pallato, who would give you 2 for one on quarters. So how did I do? Are you about 50? I'm 42. You can check me out in APHS Driftwood Yearbook class of '82 (the five percenter
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
Yeah, same guy, and I think he is still around, in Brick. He was one hell of a Union President. The best for that time. It's a different ballgame today with Administration.--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher? If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. Every monday morning he played a tape of the previous night's 60 minutes. Talk about a liberal! He made no bones about it that he was a socialist. How much of that was bait to get me going I don't know, but I spent a whole year debating with him. He'd probably get in trouble with Sean Hannity for doing that in class today, but I recollect that he wasn't preachy about it - he got us talking. Very inspiring to make us defend our point of view. He ran a great class. Good guy. Is he sill around? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D. can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis? Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have destroyed that contract. Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
Pro Wrestling at CH (Bruno Sammartino, Crazy Luke, etc.). Boat Show. Jog on the boardwalk with bare feet (splinter fest!). Walk along sand to Allenhurst and sneak in the rich people's pool club. Blowing away Englishtown corvettes on the Cicuit with my '78 Buick Apollo, 350 with a four barrel, air shocks in the back, 60 tires and creager rims all around. Party under Convention Hall. Marine Grille site with your date in your car at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: umbrellas empress bayonne kohrs girls drinking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rainbow Girls umbrellas empress bayonne kohrs girls drinking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Same guy he was working for the NJEA Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher? If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. Every monday morning he played a tape of the previous night's 60 minutes. Talk about a liberal! He made no bones about it that he was a socialist. How much of that was bait to get me going I don't know, but I spent a whole year debating with him. He'd probably get in trouble with Sean Hannity for doing that in class today, but I recollect that he wasn't preachy about it - he got us talking. Very inspiring to make us defend our point of view. He ran a great class. Good guy. Is he sill around? --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: Are you saying that the State Insurance isn't going and Corzine is lying? Insurance companyies don't give out 3 year plans anymore nor should you get locked in for 3 years that's why you shop around and get the best deal. It would have been a $600,000 saving after the commission. You have to have a broker. I know your new at this game but check and double check what the Board says. You KNOW Lewis and it seems like the Board falls in line to what he says. I'm sure Frank D. can get 5 votes if he really wants to, do the math. By the way why didn't the UNION publicly blast the 5 years contract giving to Lewis? Unless you agree with it. Bring back Russ Leidy he would have destroyed that contract. Well, one thing is for sure, I didn't try to hide my identity. However, you did a good job. You must know who my brother is based on all of the names you provided last night. As for the insurance issue, let me set the record straight, as I came from that field before becoming a teacher. First and foremost, this insurance issue has popped up once before. Our prior BA, EK, proposed this change to get out of the SHBP, while Karl Crudup was President. This change to BCBS came with the fact that now a broker, Grinspec, would handle the benefits. You are definitely right. This would have saved the BOE approximately 12% the first year. Not bad, and I would have definitely been in favor. However, year 2, 3 and so on steadily would have gone up drastically to the point that the savings were now a major loss to the BOE. To try to get back to the SHBP and get rid of a broker was and still is impossible. The state will not allow. Once you are out, you're out. Then you are forced to use this broker at a 10% fee. Yes, 10% to the broker, or at that time, roughly $700,000. There is your 600K in savings minus 100K. Second, this issue is rising to the top once more. I really don't need to go in to it again, but the fact remains that it is history, only two years old, repeating itself again. And I must also point out the fact that EK, the ex BA is under indictment in another school distrcit as we speak. I wonder who was getting a kickback with the 700K in commission? Now I don't know where you get your information, but I think they left out some major details. I would have no problem switching insurance companies to get a better deal for the members if the coverage was better. However, at the cost to the taxpayer, and a rising insurance cost higher than the SHBP, it would not only cost you, the taxpayer more than SHBP, but it would also make my negotiations harder. This would be due to the fact that cost of insurance under this so called savings, would be impossible to keep up with and the BOE would be forced to look again. Third and final point, Frank D. had nothing to do with the insurance being stopped, nor did the Association. It was economically the correct thing to do. Frank D., as you know, is only one vote and I really don't think he has that kind of power. However, I think he should be flattered by the fact that so many people think he does. I hope this answers your questions. I think the source should give you a bit more detailed information. And if you want, you can reach out to me any time and we can discuss it in person. I am easily accessible, as you know who I am. Johnny Boy --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, Fred asburydogma@ wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, apeaexec1 apeaexec1@ wrote: It wasn't to hard to figure out APEAexec1. Did Frank D tell you to join? We know he's a union guy and
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Cove Pro Wrestling at CH (Bruno Sammartino, Crazy Luke, etc.). Boat Show. Jog on the boardwalk with bare feet (splinter fest!). Walk along sand to Allenhurst and sneak in the rich people's pool club. Blowing away Englishtown corvettes on the Cicuit with my '78 Buick Apollo, 350 with a four barrel, air shocks in the back, 60 tires and creager rims all around. Party under Convention Hall. Marine Grille site with your date in your car at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: umbrellas empress bayonne kohrs girls drinking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher? If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. First, BB, I want to thank you publicly (or at least semi-publicly as in this group) for stepping up to the plate and delivering a top of the line printer-fax-copier to the kids in the 5th grade apogee program at the Bradley Elementary School. Having seen some of their writings, I can say we have some really talented scribes among those young people. You'd think that with a huge budget like the one we have, the kids in that class would have had a decent printer to go along with the computers. Now, thanks to you (and I know you had attended that school for a time back when), the students can get a hard copy of what they compose. And thanks for the ink cartridges as well. We may disagree on lots of issues, especially red state-blue state stuff, but in this case we're on the same page, literally, I think. And perhaps you can assist us in a project the board has said is a priority: the creation of an Ed Foundation. In the years ahead, when the State steps further away from our district, such a foundation will be more important than ever. If you have any ideas on the subject, perhaps you can contact the folks in Central office and even (gasp!) the much maligned union. Anyone who doubts that the Bradley School has not come a long way and turned a significant corner lately should visit the place. The school administration and staff work together in an atmosphere that might put many suburban schools to shame. By the way, the same can be said for the other two Elementary Schools in Asbury: Thurgood Marshall and Bangs Avenue. There is an atmosphere of caring, calm, and best of all, learning, going on in those places, too. Frank (I'm not running for anything but the Crosstown bus) D'Alessandro Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: Pinball.
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moula womens, wrestling Migets, Andre the Giant and the main man Billy Dello Pro Wrestling at CH (Bruno Sammartino, Crazy Luke, etc.). Boat Show. Jog on the boardwalk with bare feet (splinter fest!). Walk along sand to Allenhurst and sneak in the rich people's pool club. Blowing away Englishtown corvettes on the Cicuit with my '78 Buick Apollo, 350 with a four barrel, air shocks in the back, 60 tires and creager rims all around. Party under Convention Hall. Marine Grille site with your date in your car at night. --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, oakdorf oakdorf@ wrote: umbrellas empress bayonne kohrs girls drinking Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[AsburyPark] Re: APBOE Insurance
--- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, asburycheech [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In AsburyPark@yahoogroups.com, bluebishop82 bluebishop82@ wrote: Russ Leidy!!! The social studies teacher? If that's the same guy, I had a blast in his class. PS Russ Leidy was one of my heros as a union guy, along with the great Marie Panos, John Molloy, and Diane Swaim of Middletown (happily still a wonderful friend). Being an old Wobbly, I always admired the long defunct IWW, too. Hell, at my age, I'm practically a contemporary of Samuel Gompers. That probably explains a lot. Frank D' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/AsburyPark/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
