Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
Julia Thompson wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 05:26:12PM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Mortgage Clearing House [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root/8e8Ta4: Permission denied ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Thank you O great spirit of the list, protect us from yon spam and give us good topic upon which to subsist good spelling good grammer amen That is actually rather interesting. If Nick were feeling better, I'd ask him to check it out. It looks like someone attempted to break into his computer, perhaps using a sendmail, procmail, or mailman exploit. I guess it failed, although it could have succeeded somewhere else, and it should be checked more carefully at some point. Actually, it looks like a piece of spam that I thought I told the server to discard (Nick, sometime check the log files and tell me if I goofed in my congested and not entirely alert state) had something other than my intent happen to it. Fortunately, the server in its programming spared the rest of you the stupid pictures and html. Actually it didn't. When I opened that rejected mail, it autoexecuted to a site. I shut it down immediatly. Stupid me forgot to shut down the java script for the internet yesterday. I'm not sure if anybody else had the problem. Sonja GCU: I hate spam! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Economic Performance of Presidents Re: Plus the NY Times Re: TheWashington Post Editorial on Iraq
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 10:21:18PM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: By the way, I don't have the numbers handy, but I read today that Clinton C0., with his, quote, expert balance of spending, incrased discretionary spending at 9% a year during the 90's. Bush, on the other hand, is keeping increases in discrtionary much less than that (the 2003 figure is still being negotiated, but it looks to be around 4%.) I've often heard the term discretionary spending, enough that I have a vague idea what is meant by the context. But, is there a precise definition? Why separate out some spending and call it discretionary and imply that other spending is mandatory? When it comes down to it, isn't all spending discretionary? If you are really short of funds, you could cut about anything. So, while I do genuinely what to know if their is a precise definition of what is discretionary (please tell me one if you know), I wonder if the choice of what is discretionary is somewhat arbitrary, so when people quote numbers like you did above, I wonder if there is some bias. Given a choice between comparing total spending, why would you want to separate out some fraction of that spending in a somewhat arbitrary way and draw conclusions on that? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Jon Gabriel wrote: From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. You may not have to you might be able to copy all the floppies to their own folders on a cd and then write a bat file to allow you to install them from the cd. Borland is easy. Copy all files from your disk onto a cd-rom, it isn't really necessary to keep them in separate folders. But since CD space is cheep, you could opt to make two versions. One for the programm as a whole and the other with a directory for each disk. For install, optional just copy all the files from the CD-rom onto your harddisk and /optional run the install, it's any of the exe files on the first 'disk'. You then have to tell the install where to look for the files and where to install them to. Works like a charm. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: war and peace
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 02:04:39PM -0600, Dan Minette wrote: No hard feelings, but I think that your lack of familiarity with the concept of being called is evident here. Many people can be God's instrument. It depends on who answers the call. Ideally, many countries would answer. It appears that the world is relying on the US to be the only one that answers, and reserves the right to tell us when to answer and when not to. I'm not familiar with what you mean by being called. But it sounds disturbingly similar to some things I've heard from religious nuts like suicide bombers. In general, how is the call you are talking about to be distinguished by the person being called from the call the suicide bombers hear? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: healthy chiles
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:06:53PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: P.S. I say most because since the introduction of Western Fast Food, there are many more obese Koreans running (waddling) aound than there were 20-30 years ago. I read (and observed) that KFC is the most popular American fast food in China. I read that McDonald's is the most popular American fast food in Korea. Does that appear to be true to you? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 11:52:26PM -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: I seem to recall that she was removing the metal door, but I could be wrong. What about the metal spindle, which is quite thick and sturdy metal? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
Jon Gabriel wrote: By what I understand of your reasoning, the US should have waited until it was directly attacked by Germany before entering WWII Eh... as far as I know that is exactly what the US did, it minded it's own borders. They did some supplying to the Brittish before they entered but undoubtably made a neat profit in the process. (f.i. Sept. 3--United States trades 50 destroyers for naval base sites in British possessions) Then everything changed because the US was attacked by the German ally Japan (Nov. 25 1936 in below link). And only then it entered the war, at a very late state in Dec. 9 1941. The war had already been going a while by then. For a neat chronology of WWII check this site... http://no11-fighter-group-raf.com/chrono.htm Sonja :o) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: UK dossier on Iraq
-Original Message- From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 02:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Jon Gabriel wrote: By what I understand of your reasoning, the US should have waited until it was directly attacked by Germany before entering WWII Eh... as far as I know that is exactly what the US did, it minded it's own borders. They did some supplying to the Brittish before they entered but undoubtably made a neat profit in the process. Actually, IIRC (having recently read Rise Fall of the 3rd Reich) the program was run at a loss, financially speaking. Heh.. besides, trying to remain the image of neutrality when our leaders wanted us to get into the war must have demanded a certain quid pro quo to be apparent. For a neat chronology of WWII check this site... http://no11-fighter-group-raf.com/chrono.htm I love it when people post links -- thanks! -j- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
Dan Minette wrote: Let me get this straight. You are accusing Powell of fabricating evidence? Its all made up because the poor misunderstood Mr Hussein, who is trying so hard to lead his Republic into a bright new future is being slanded by the big bad United States? Well you must admit that subtly changing words to give it a sound that is far more grave then the original documents, copying parts of an old article and selling it as real and recent doesn't do much to improve believabillity. It could provoke a lot of questions as to the nature of the real motives for wanting a war. But the least it does is raise a lot of questions as to why such actions should be even necessary, if there is such real and unrefutable evidence the US is said to rely on. So far I'm not convinced. And I do remain very critical as to the information that is presented to me. I just know that if I had a student doing things like that in a vital presentation (s)he would be soo suspended pending further investigation. Sonja GCU: Question everything, believe nothing, check and double check where possible. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
John D. Giorgis wrote: JDG - Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love on a daily basis, Maru? Very cheap shot and rather insensitive and hurtfull. :o( Also non of your fucking business. [If you will pardon me the crudity of that pun :o)] Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
Jon Gabriel wrote: /sarcasm/ With that attitude, someone *should* invade them as soon as possible. After all, no offense or danger will be too great to make them go to war! Germany should disband their armies, sell their weaponry and leave their front doors unlocked. Oh, and they might consider bending over as much as possible. /sarcasm/ Ridiculous. This is precisely the type of quote that sounds just great as a sound-bite and reflects nothing about the real world. War is sometimes necessary. At the risk of repeating myself, one can argue logically and convincingly that the most important job a country has is maintaining and defending its borders and citizens. Schroeder sounds like he's forgotten (or is afraid to acknowledge) this basic truth. I believe Schoeders comment to Bush's '... the game is over... ' nicely depicts the sentiments between the US and Germany. Schroeder responded with '...it isn't a game, and it is far from over...'. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saw a speech by, IIRC, Schroeder recently. He mentioned (paraphrasing) that Germany is opposed against war against Iraq, because the German people, having been in the center of two world wars, realise that going to war is never the solution to a problem. Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk OK. I want to call attention to this statement. Now, Jeroen, there's a striking fact about the German people having been in the center of two world wars. Which is, of course, that they started them. Just to add some nuances to this bland and somewhat overgeneralised statement I recommend you check out: http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/origins_01.shtml as for WWII, the Versailles treatment that concluded WWI had among other factors a lot to do with it. http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/war/wwone/versailles_01.shtml ... It was the total failure of the victorious powers to work closely together after 1919 to contain German power, rather than the specific terms of the peace settlement, which was one of the contributing factors to the outbreak of a second world war 20 years later. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
Miller, Jeffrey wrote: -Original Message- From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 02:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Jon Gabriel wrote: By what I understand of your reasoning, the US should have waited until it was directly attacked by Germany before entering WWII Eh... as far as I know that is exactly what the US did, it minded it's own borders. They did some supplying to the Brittish before they entered but undoubtably made a neat profit in the process. Actually, IIRC (having recently read Rise Fall of the 3rd Reich) the program was run at a loss, financially speaking. Do you have a link on that. The financial side of the war is the only thing I'm not able to find Didn't we have a resident expert on the WWs on this list? Hey, are you out there? Heh.. besides, trying to remain the image of neutrality when our leaders wanted us to get into the war must have demanded a certain quid pro quo to be apparent. For a neat chronology of WWII check this site... http://no11-fighter-group-raf.com/chrono.htm I love it when people post links -- thanks! You're welcome. I've got the morning off so I get to mail and browse, do some internet stuff and a bit of research. I usually don't have time to spare to do any of that as thoroughly as I'd like to. Sonja GCU: Thanks to Jeroen, who is taking up my slack ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: [L3] Re: Afghanistan Success?
Gautam Mukunda wrote: --- Deborah Harrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you want to read the last 3/4 of the article that discusses the room for improvement in Afghanistan, you'll have to buy the article from The Economsit. :) I added a few links on that. Afghanistan, right now, is probably in better shape than it has been at any time in recorded history. Eh... that is not true. Afghanistan was a very nice country before all sort of occupation powers started to fight over it. It was called the nirvana of the middle east. It was wealthy and very peacefull. The fact that people usually make it through the gauntlet, the fact that things are more stable now than they have been historically - that is a tribute to the success of American power. IIRC it was the American powerplay against the Russians in the first place that turned Afghanistan into a pretty gross mess. from: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/1162108.stm ...1986 - US begins supplying mujahedin with Stinger missiles, enabling them to shoot down Soviet helicopter gunships. Babrak Karmal replaced by Najibullah as head of Soviet-backed regime Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you are one of those hundreds of thousands of people who still use Windows NT 4.0, which doesn't have USB support... Apple gave their users the same problem several years ago. We had several hundred (around 5 - 600) floppies in my office that had to be converted to cd. Took an intern days to copy them onto a hard drive, organize and package them for burning. (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) Could have cheerfully killed Apple at the time. :( But... this has happened before with 5.25 floppies, so I guess there's a precedent. This still leaves users with another problem: boot floppies. When the OS won't boot, you can still boot your computer with the OS boot floppy (or rescue disk, or whatever it's called) and try and fix the problem -- or at least backup your data before reinstalling everything. No floppy drive, no emergency boot floppies... You weren't able to get that memory stick drive working?? Yes and no. It works under Windows 2000, and if and when I'll bother to install the driver it will also work under Windows 98. However, both OS's are running on the same PC (together with NT 4), so there is little use for that memory stick. Can't use it for transferring data to other computers, either. The PC's I use at work all run NT 4. If and when I need to transfer data between my laptop and my home desktop PC, I do that over the network -- the only doable option anyway, as the desktop PC is so old that it doesn't have an USB port. Jeroen Tech Support van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
At 18:28 7-2-2003 -0500, Erik Reuter wrote: From: Mortgage Clearing House [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root/8e8Ta4: Permission denied ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Thank you O great spirit of the list, protect us from yon spam and give us good topic upon which to subsist good spelling good grammer amen That is actually rather interesting. If Nick were feeling better, I'd ask him to check it out. It looks like someone attempted to break into his computer, perhaps using a sendmail, procmail, or mailman exploit. Wasn't me! Just covering my six... Jeroen Shields up! van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Thanks, now I have a small project for tomorrow. That means I simply must putoff doing my taxes ;-) George A - Original Message - From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:55 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Jon Gabriel wrote: From: G. D. Akin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 06:19:30 +0900 The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. You may not have to you might be able to copy all the floppies to their own folders on a cd and then write a bat file to allow you to install them from the cd. Borland is easy. Copy all files from your disk onto a cd-rom, it isn't really necessary to keep them in separate folders. But since CD space is cheep, you could opt to make two versions. One for the programm as a whole and the other with a directory for each disk. For install, optional just copy all the files from the CD-rom onto your harddisk and /optional run the install, it's any of the exe files on the first 'disk'. You then have to tell the install where to look for the files and where to install them to. Works like a charm. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: healthy chiles
First, I spent 8 days in China (Beijing, Xian, Guilin, Shanghai, Hangzhou, and Suzhou) in Jun 2000. There are many McDonald's, but KFC is the most popular. This is an absolute fact verifed by one of our guides. In Korea the favorite may be McDonald's, but Pizza Hut is a close second. In Seoul, their is an upscale shopping area known as Myong Dong. In that 3 or 4 block square area there are two McDonalds, Pizza Hut, Arby's, Baskin Robins, KFC, Popeye's Chicken, Subway, and a Burger King. Around Seoul there several Tony Roma's, several Outbacks (I know, not American), TGIF, Chili's, and Bennigan's. The most prevalent is McDonalds. I should point out that there are several Starbucks as well. George A - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:12 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: healthy chiles On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 02:06:53PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: P.S. I say most because since the introduction of Western Fast Food, there are many more obese Koreans running (waddling) aound than there were 20-30 years ago. I read (and observed) that KFC is the most popular American fast food in China. I read that McDonald's is the most popular American fast food in Korea. Does that appear to be true to you? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 17:14 7-2-2003 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: But no one denies that the Hussein government employs a level of brutality and terror like only a few regimes in history Undoubtedly true. However, brutality is not the reason why the US wants to invade Iraq. The reason given for the war is Iraq has weapons of mass destruction -- even though the Bush regime has so far failed to produce much (if any) credible evidence for it. Iraq has used weapons of mass destruction in full view of the world on at least 2 occasions that I am aware of. Weapons of mass destruction and associated accoutrement were found by inspectors after the first Gulf War. But where are they now? The international community didn't want to attack Iraq because it first wanted to be sure that Iraq still had weapons of mass destruction. So, to find out if Iraq still had them, they sent an international team of inspectors to Iraq. So far, I've not seen any footage of Mr. Blix Co. standing next to some recently-discovered pile of WMD's... You appear to be suggesting that the leopard has changed his spots. My reply is that that dog dont hunt. I think the dog is hunting, but failing to find its prey. In particular, I wonder how this will influence our view of Germany. If there is any country that should be most enthusiastic for freeing people from a genocidal dictator, it is Germany. Saw a speech by, IIRC, Schroeder recently. He mentioned (paraphrasing) that Germany is opposed against war against Iraq, because the German people, having been in the center of two world wars, realise that going to war is never the solution to a problem. Considering Germanys role in both wars, an aggressor who was not successful, it comes as no surprise that they would spout such empty rhetoric. It appears to me that, after starting two wars, they finally learned that war isn't the solution -- a lesson the US still has not learned, and probably never will learn. And of course, there's now definitely no chance whatsoever that Germany will support a war against Iraq -- not after that huge diplomatic blunder by Rumsfeld yesterday, when he equated Germany with Cuba and Libya. That remark probably killed any remaining trace of good will the Germans might have towards the US. It won't surprise me if that blunder will come back to haunt the US later on. Jeroen Political Observations van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
At 01:57 PM 2/8/2003 +0900, you wrote: I have a very good CD-RW, but I don't know enough about burning install disks. Will just copy the floppies onto a single CD, each in its own folder work or one CD per floppy. At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but I think the first part was missing. I would make a directory tree ...BorlandCD/disk n/(the contents of disk n) for each disk. Then run your burner program and see if the directory would fit on one sick. While I know they packed everything they could onto the floppies, I would bet that you can come real close to fitting everything. The important part, uninstall the Borland package on a computer with a floppy, then try to install from the program from the CD. You could have two problems. One would be that the install program refuses to look for the next disk on the CDrom. Two, they sometimes put data in the root track of the floppy.(? I can't think of the name of the header track). This data would be uncopyable, so the install program would know that you didn't have the original disks, and wouldn't install. In fact, try Sonja's method first, just copy the data to your hard drive and try to install from there. If it does it okay you would have no trouble getting it from a CD. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 21:31 7-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: JDG - Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love on a daily basis, Maru? Quite a statement for someone who has never been involved in such an act (and who, given his specs for a mate, may very well never get involved in it). And why should someone enjoy getting the image of me making love on a daily basis? Please explain. And for the record, the frequency of my love-making is, quite frankly, none of your f*cking business (pun intended). Jeroen Sex Toy van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 11:53 8-2-2003 +0100, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: I believe Schoeders comment to Bush's '... the game is over... ' nicely depicts the sentiments between the US and Germany. Schroeder responded with '...it isn't a game, and it is far from over...'. Personally, I find it terrifying that the president of the most powerful nation in the world believes that international conflict is a GAME... Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 01:57 PM 2/8/2003 +0900, you wrote: I have a very good CD-RW, but I don't know enough about burning install disks. Will just copy the floppies onto a single CD, each in its own folder work or one CD per floppy. At 06:19 AM 2/8/03 +0900, you wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but I think the first part was missing. I would make a directory tree ...BorlandCD/disk n/(the contents of disk n) for each disk. Then run your burner program and see if the directory would fit on one sick. While I know they packed everything they could onto the floppies, I would bet that you can come real close to fitting everything. The important part, uninstall the Borland package on a computer with a floppy, then try to install from the program from the CD. You could have two problems. One would be that the install program refuses to look for the next disk on the CDrom. Two, they sometimes put data in the root track of the floppy.(? I can't think of the name of the header track). This data would be uncopyable, so the install program would know that you didn't have the original disks, and wouldn't install. In fact, try Sonja's method first, just copy the data to your hard drive and try to install from there. If it does it okay you would have no trouble getting it from a CD. Oh, yeah, that I forgot. Make sure you have everything copied. That means all the hidden files as well. I don't believe Borland's Pascal 7 had any though. Cannot remember the command to make them show... oh wait that was the DOS era... In windows everything should be cool, as long as you got all the 'hide files' functions unchecked in exploder. Sonja ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 02:38 PM 2/8/2003 +0100 J. van Baardwijk wrote: Personally, I find it terrifying that the president of the most powerful nation in the world believes that international conflict is a GAME... Actually, it was Hussein that thinks this international conflict is a game. JDG - Hide-and-go-Seek Maru! ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 08:51 8-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: Personally, I find it terrifying that the president of the most powerful nation in the world believes that international conflict is a GAME... Actually, it was Hussein that thinks this international conflict is a game. It was Bush who said the game is over, so obviously *he* thinks this is all a game. I don't remember Saddam Hussein ever calling it a game. Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Plus the NY Times Re: The Washington Post Editorial on Iraq
Kevin Tarr wrote: At 06:16 PM 2/7/2003 -0500, you wrote: At 03:05 PM 2/7/2003 -0800, you wrote: Tiny point: Bambi was a stag. Maybe Kevin found a stag in drag? ;) And I can almost picture Thumper in a pimp hat-and-coat... GSV Irreverence VBG I can't remember where I got that. Probably a sitcom. The swinging single guy had a date named Bambi. The married made so joke about her name and the movie, like Did you meet her friend flower? and the single guy said No, I took her back to my place and thumper. It was funny. Kevin T. - VRWC You had to be there. That bit was in the sitcom 'Unhappily married ever after'. It was mister Bunny who made the comment I know, I have a peculiar taste in sitcoms. :o) Sonja GCU: You've gotta love them reruns, again and again and. ;o) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Segway scooter hot seller online
At 03:17 PM 12/29/2002 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: The only way you'll get people in this country to take mass transit is to force them and I don't think that's likely to happen in the near future. In Washington, DC, however, our mass transit program is very successful and very well-utilized. Indeed, every time they expand mass transit service here, ridership has exceeded expectations. JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: LOONEY ALERT
Ronn! Blankenship wrote: At 01:11 PM 2/6/03 -0800, Deborah Harrell wrote: Scrambled Eggs And Brains Maru ;) It's been a long time since I've had those . . . By this admission I can only conclude that you are of the French nationality. Then again you write in English. Not something a Frenchman would voluntarily do. Sonja Totally Confused Maru. GCU cliché ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 14:36 8-2-2003 +0100, I wrote: At 21:31 7-2-2003 -0500, John Giorgis wrote: JDG - Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love on a daily basis, Maru? Quite a statement for someone who has never been involved in such an act (and who, given his specs for a mate, may very well never get involved in it). And why should someone enjoy getting the image of me making love on a daily basis? Please explain. My messages about the Iraq issue have the words Make love, not war in the sig. I just received an off-list message from JDG which indicates that he believes it has something to do with my own sex life, so he apparently hasn't got a clue as to the origins of the Make love, not war statement. Could someone please enlighten him? I don't feel like explaining it to him (and I have other, parental, things to do right now). And for the record, the frequency of my love-making is, quite frankly, none of your f*cking business (pun intended). No, JDG, despite your request I am not going to drop that particular sig simply because you it gets you thinking about my sex life. Get your own sex life! :-) Jeroen Make love, not war van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:07 AM Subject: Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House! On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:42:11PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: From: Mortgage Clearing House [EMAIL PROTECTED] /root/8e8Ta4: Permission denied Actually, it looks like a piece of spam that I thought I told the server to discard (Nick, sometime check the log files and tell me if I goofed in my congested and not entirely alert state) had something other than my intent happen to it. Why was it trying to access a file in the /root/ directory? Now that I think about it, that is somewhat surprising. Nicks server is Linux right? Does it appear that the spam was trying to access a Linux directory? There is no such file/directory system in windows, and I'm thinking the spam had to be written specificly for Linux (or Unixclones) to have evoked this response from the server. I dont know much about Linux, but I would expect this to be a very bad thing if this is the beginning of a new trend. xponent Yikes! Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
- Original Message - From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:47 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq John D. Giorgis wrote: JDG - Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love on a daily basis, Maru? Very cheap shot and rather insensitive and hurtfull. :o( Also non of your fucking business. [If you will pardon me the crudity of that pun :o)] I have to agree. John, perhaps in the future you should be careful about taking shots at Jeroen since you might also be taking a shot at Sonja unintentionally. That would be unfortunate because Sonja seems to make an effort to moderate herself, even when her views and those of others are far apart. John and Jeroen may be destined to be antagonists toward each other, but I think it is only fair that Sonja be excluded from the splatter of the food fight. xponent In All Fairness Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:07:52AM -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Fri, Feb 07, 2003 at 08:42:11PM -0600, Julia Thompson wrote: Actually, it looks like a piece of spam that I thought I told the server to discard (Nick, sometime check the log files and tell me if I goofed in my congested and not entirely alert state) had something other than my intent happen to it. Why was it trying to access a file in the /root/ directory? Now that I think about it, that is somewhat surprising. Nicks server is Linux right? Yes, although it is possible that something Julia or Nick set up was trying to do something in the /root/ directory in response to the spam. Normally, I would expect logs to be written to the /var/log/ directory. And the /root/ directory is basically the home directory of the root user (superuser), and you wouldn't normally write a file with a name like 8e8Ta4 directly into a home directory. So, while it is possible some legitimate script was writing to the /root/ directory in response to the spam, it is a strange way to do things. It is worth checking out to see if it was legitimate or not. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
At 09:22 AM 2/8/2003 -0600 Robert Seeberger wrote: JDG - Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love on a daily basis, Maru? Very cheap shot and rather insensitive and hurtfull. :o( Also non of your *beep* business. Sorry, there is a missing comma up there.. Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love*,* on a daily basis, Maru? Sorry, but I am *sick* of the *.sig file.There's no need for that in polite company. JDG ___ John D. Giorgis - [EMAIL PROTECTED] The liberty we prize is not America's gift to the world, it is God's gift to humanity. - George W. Bush 1/29/03 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: healthy chiles
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:09:59PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: In Korea the favorite may be McDonald's, but Pizza Hut is a close second. What are the favorite types (and toppings) of Pizza at Korean Pizza Huts? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 10:30:40AM -0500, John D. Giorgis wrote: Sorry, there is a missing comma up there.. Anybody enjoy getting the image of Jeroen making love*,* on a daily basis, Maru? All, you, have, to, say, for, that, travesty, is, sorry? I, am, quite, offended, by, missing, commas, John. There, is, NO, need, for, that, in, polite, company. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Attn: JDG and JVB
I'm still pretty darn cruddy, but it's nonetheless obvious that you two are baiting each other. Cool it now, please. And nobody cares who started it. Although I see no reason you can't participate in the same threads, you'll contribute a lot to peace if you'll refrain from addressing each other directly or indirectly. If you can't do that, how about if I fix each of you a nice, rare hamburger? Nick -- Nick Arnett Phone/fax: (408) 904-7198 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Re:Sick Nick
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of G. D. Akin ... Not to downplay Nick's illness, but in Oregon? I live and work in Korea, but home is Springfield, OR. No kidding? That doesn't take us far from me... my wife grew up there. We own the house she grew up in, which is on Centennial. So I get to Springfield about once a year. How old are you, if I may ask? You may know some of her family... And if you do, just keep in mind that every family, like every town, has a wide variety of individuals in it... ;-) Nick (a bit better this morning) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: patents, patents, everywhere
Ok, I'm a little fuzzy about the patent process. Does this mean a local prof who writes up a little cgi script for students to use is violating these folks' patent?? If so, how did these people manage to get this patent, since there's a ton of take tests and polls on the internet software out there already? - Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:19 AM Subject: patents, patents, everywhere http://neohio.craintech.com/cgi-bin/article.pl?articleId=2416 Looking to profit from patent 4:59 AM Feb. 03, 2003 By JEFF STACKLIN Universities do it. So does the government and employment agencies. It is online testing, and it has become part of the lives of many people required by their employer or school to pass an exam. As of last week, Test Central Inc. in Cleveland owns the U.S. patent to conduct testing via the Internet and, in essence, owns the online testing business. Its a market that exceeds $10 billion a year, according to a study the Gartner Inc. technology research and consulting firm performed for the company in 1999, said Test Central co-founder James F. Koehler. However, dont look for the four-employee company based in the Buckley Building in Playhouse Square to pursue every university and business that sells tests over the Internet for infringing upon the sweeping patent, said CEO Jim Posch. Instead, Test Central plans to sell or license the patent to a large online testing company or consulting firm. Whoever buys or licenses the patent then can go after their competitors, Mr. Posch said. Were trying to find an organization that will get the most benefit out of (the patent), Mr. Posch said. They would be able to close the door on their competitors. Although company officials say they have discussed an asking price for the patent, they would not disclose it publicly. Mr. Posch said the price and whether its an exclusive arrangement remains open for negotiation. Test Central was granted the patent, which covers making a test and posting the test online for potential test takers, last Tuesday, Jan. 28. (Read about all the patents issued to local companies recently.) Charles Stack and John Anderson, the founders of the company, applied for the patent in February 1999. Mr. Stack also founded the Cleveland-based software company Flashline Inc. Attorney John J. Del Col, of the Cleveland law firm Renner, Otto, Boisselle Sklar LLP, said the process to get the patent was routine, despite taking nearly four years. Now that Test Central has it, it is up to the companys competitors to challenge the patents validity. Under U.S. Patent law any challenger must beat the burden of clear and convincing evidence to overturn a patents validity, Mr. Del Col said. Mr. Koehler, a lawyer who manages the business practice group at Cleveland law firm Gallagher, Sharp, Fulton Norman LPA, said patent litigation is extremely expensive and Test Central can easily spend $1 million defending a single infringement claim. It makes sense to license the patent instead of trying to enforce it, Mr. Koehler said. Besides, Test Central last summer changed its focus to the sale of online testing and survey-taking software from selling tests over the Internet. Even so, Mr. Posch said the company wants to offer its software and use of its Test.com domain name as part of the deal. Along with the patent, Mr. Posch and his colleagues say they have a tremendous asset. Test Central notified 400 potential buyers in December that it was pursuing and about to receive the patent, Mr. Posch said. Since then, about 20 companies have responded, he said. He declined to identify the potential suitors. They really wanted to know how this impacts their businesses and who are these guys at Test Central, Mr. Posch said of the companies that responded to the Test Centrals initial letters. Were trying to give them the impression that we want to work with them. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: patents, patents, everywhere
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 07:11:22AM -0600, Amanda SubbaRao wrote: Ok, I'm a little fuzzy about the patent process. Does this mean a local prof who writes up a little cgi script for students to use is violating these folks' patent?? Yes. Although a prof probably would not sued, it is a big problem for small businesses. If so, how did these people manage to get this patent, since there's a ton of take tests and polls on the internet The US Patent system is severely broken and has been for some time. There are far too many patents granted, and too few staff to handle the flood of incoming patent applications. One way to reform the system would be to reduce the term of patents, either systematically (make them all less than 5 years, for example), or individually, by allowing the patent examiner to set the term based on the quality of the patent and the expenses in creating the IP of the patent. Also, it wouldn't be a bad idea to allow the patent office some judicial recourse to sue or fine submitters of frivolous patent applications. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Robert Seeberger ... Why was it trying to access a file in the /root/ directory? Parts of the system run as root and that's probably where that came from. But I don't think that little bit had anything to do with trying to run something in the /root directory. That message was flagged for moderation when it arrived, since it wasn't from a subscriber, and so it must have been mistakenly approved (Julia approved another message at the same time, so she probably didn't realize she was okaying both). There's an entry in the error log that says it contained unparseable text/html and so I suspect it replaced the unparseable part with the string that appeared in the body -- which is a Mailman bug, I suspect, so I'll look a bit harder at it and submit a bug report. I dont know much about Linux, but I would expect this to be a very bad thing if this is the beginning of a new trend. No threat to Linux. Even when you see root as operating something on *nixes, they're often run in a chrooted environment (or chroot jail) which has its own mini version of the operating system. Nothing is allowed to touch anything outside of the jail. The greater threats are buffer overflows and such, where the access is totally unintentional. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
- Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:21 AM Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq At 17:14 7-2-2003 -0600, Robert Seeberger wrote: But no one denies that the Hussein government employs a level of brutality and terror like only a few regimes in history Undoubtedly true. However, brutality is not the reason why the US wants to invade Iraq. The reason given for the war is Iraq has weapons of mass destruction -- even though the Bush regime has so far failed to produce much (if any) credible evidence for it. Iraq has used weapons of mass destruction in full view of the world on at least 2 occasions that I am aware of. Weapons of mass destruction and associated accoutrement were found by inspectors after the first Gulf War. But where are they now? The international community didn't want to attack Iraq because it first wanted to be sure that Iraq still had weapons of mass destruction. So, to find out if Iraq still had them, they sent an international team of inspectors to Iraq. So far, I've not seen any footage of Mr. Blix Co. standing next to some recently-discovered pile of WMD's... Reread Colin Powells speech. Take for granted that his numbers are inflated by a factor of 4 or even 10. It is still a frightening situation. Being an American does not automaticly make one a liar. You appear to be suggesting that the leopard has changed his spots. My reply is that that dog dont hunt. I think the dog is hunting, but failing to find its prey. I think that the prey has hidden his claws. (Good comeback dude!) In particular, I wonder how this will influence our view of Germany. If there is any country that should be most enthusiastic for freeing people from a genocidal dictator, it is Germany. Saw a speech by, IIRC, Schroeder recently. He mentioned (paraphrasing) that Germany is opposed against war against Iraq, because the German people, having been in the center of two world wars, realise that going to war is never the solution to a problem. Considering Germanys role in both wars, an aggressor who was not successful, it comes as no surprise that they would spout such empty rhetoric. It appears to me that, after starting two wars, they finally learned that war isn't the solution -- a lesson the US still has not learned, and probably never will learn. You apparently equate evil with good and cannot see the difference. This is the reason you dont get the respect you think you deserve. Moral relativism is an oxymoron. And of course, there's now definitely no chance whatsoever that Germany will support a war against Iraq -- not after that huge diplomatic blunder by Rumsfeld yesterday, when he equated Germany with Cuba and Libya. That remark probably killed any remaining trace of good will the Germans might have towards the US. Good! We can remove our bases from their part of Europe and let them pay for their own defence. You really ignore the US's goodwill that you have benefitted from for 50 years. It won't surprise me if that blunder will come back to haunt the US later on. You think Germany is relevant in today's world? xponent More Like Political Naivete Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Job Search Etiquette
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 12:28:58PM -0500, Gary L. Nunn wrote: 1. After an interview (phone or in person) is it appropriate to send a thank you - either a hand written card or an email. Since I am looking for jobs in the IT field, I tend to favor email. Some sources say the thank you is virtually mandatory and some sources say that it is more of an annoyance because they don't want to waste the time to read them. I think that if there is no substantial content to the note, it is optional and has little chance of making a difference either way, although it seems to me that it is more likely to help you (if they simply forgot about you) than hurt you (few people get upset about polite irrelevancies). But if you can think of some relevant information or detail to say about why you think hiring you would benefit the company, especially if it was based on something you learned during the interview or that was discussed during the interview, then definitely send a note. (That is partly responsible how I got my current job) As far as type of note, I would only send email if I knew that my email would be read. In my case, I had had prior communication via email, so I did use email for the note. But if you aren't certain that your email will be read (consider email filters), I think a mailed letter has a better chance of being read than an email. 2. Recently I have been contacting companies to find the name of the person that will be actually receiving my resume and addressing this to them directly. The source that gave me this idea says that this shows initiative. Any thoughts? My strategy has always been to try to contact the person who would actually be the manager or supervisor of the position I was trying to apply for. If you can telephone such a person, and discuss job openings and perhaps put in a few good words for yourself as to how your abilities fit any openings, and then ask about sending your resume and possibily arranging an interview, then, well you have drastically increased your chances over someone who sent their resume to the HR manager and hoped it got read by the right person after that. 3. This question is one that I am personally on the fence with - My supervisor at the DoD is really great about supporting people when they have opportunities to move up and advance in position, job or salary. He consistently has given glowing references for all of us. So, I put in my cover letters that my supervisor is aware that I am seeking other employment and is listed as one of my professional references. I had a recruiter tell me that this gives a negative impression - kind of like we are mutually agreeing that I should leave. I have always thought this would be a positive since they could always contact my current employer for a reference. Any thoughts on this specific issue would be appreciated. It is a little unusual (I haven't seen it stated like that on a cover letter). I guess I'm not really sure how most people would react to that. Why not play it safe and prominently list him as a reference with full contact information, but don't mention the part about him being aware. You won't be hiding his awareness, if that is a concern, since anyone who contacts him will probably find out that he is aware. But better they find out in a conversation than on a resume. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Fw: General question
- Original Message - From: Jim Battista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 1:28 PM Subject: RE: General question On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Charlie Bell wrote: As an example of this, one can consider the fact that one of the Palestinians cheering 9-11 was wearing a US sports jersey. Would that be in the archive footage that was used in reports worldwide that wasn't from then at all? I don't particularly care if some Palestinians tore their hair, wailed, didn't care, or danced in the streets after the attacks, or if there was a mix of all of these in proportions I'm also indifferent to; it's their business either way. But CNN at least has defended the provenance of their tapes and the original claimant that it was fake has recanted. There's a snopes page on it -- http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm -- James S. Coleman Battista Dept. of Political Science, Univ. of North Texas [EMAIL PROTECTED] (940)565-4960 - The five o'clock whistle's on the blink, The whistle won't blow and whaddaya think? My poppa's still in the factory, 'Cuz he doesn't know what tiiime it happens to be! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Hello from Mortgage Clearing House!
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Reuter ... Are there any files in the /root/ directory with names similar to the one it tried to access? It is quite strange for even a legitimate Linux daemon to try to right a file directly into /root/. The file had a nonsense name, like something that would normally go into /tmp/, or possibly a log file, but I have never seen a log from a standard daemon kept in /root/ That was the first thing I checked and no, nothing like that in /root. And nothing like that string in Mailman's logs. (And by the way, Mailman's scripts -- it's written in Python -- do *not* run as root.) Even if it was chroot'ed, it would be good to know which daemon actually tried to write to /root/ in that manner. It may have a bug that should be fixed. The good news is that the new version on the new server rejected that message completely when I sent it there. Nick ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
Julia Thompson wrote: You can get Season 1 on DVD, and if Season 2 isn't out on DVD yet, it will be soon. :) Are there rumors of the 2nd season release yet? Please tell! Amazon.com says it'll be released April 23rd. OK, so either Dan will order it in May, or he'll put off his amazon.com order in April until the 23rd. :) Man, I need to get these. I tired to talk Santa into bringing them, but I was thwarted. And they're cheap, relative to ST:TNG especially. Jim Speaking of ST:TNG episodes.. ST:TNG Season-DVD Collections are going for around $80 on Ebay. New, not resells. I've often wondered.. are they worth buying? I have almost the entire collection on VHS (from Columbia House) and I have no clue as to the quality of the discs. Just wondering.. any hints are appreciated. JJ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: We Want Your Online Dating Stories...
On a final note, one of my closest, highly specific and discerning friends finally went looking online last fall, and after only 10 minutes at a christian dating site she found her man (who ironically is someone I knew through work). They're getting married next month! Ticia ',:) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Which site? Enquiring minds... ;-) JJ _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
Speaking of B5, I was reminded of a story which I'd like to share with you guys... I don't know if this is common knowledge, since I'm totally disconnected from B5 I once had the pleasure and opportunity to exchange email with B5's creator, JM Straczinsky (sp?). He was a really cool guy to talk to, very candid and down-to-Earth. At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address what he referred to as a striking coincidences between _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:18:25PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Speaking of B5, I was reminded of a story which I'd like to share with you guys... I don't know if this is common knowledge, since I'm totally disconnected from B5 I once had the pleasure and opportunity to exchange email with B5's creator, JM Straczinsky (sp?). He was a really cool guy to talk to, very candid and down-to-Earth. At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address what he referred to as a striking coincidences between suspense novels and email? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
Speaking of B5, I was reminded of a story which I'd like to share with you guys... I don't know if this is common knowledge, since I'm totally disconnected from B5 after the first couple of seasons. I once had the pleasure and opportunity to exchange email with B5's creator, JM Straczinsky (sp?). He was a really cool guy to talk to, very candid and down-to-Earth. At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address the questions regarding what was referred to, at the time, as a striking similarities between B5 and DS9. According to JMS, he had the chance to pitch his story idea to the producers of Star Trek, shortly before Gene Rodenberry's death. His pitch was rejected. Months later, Paramount announced the release of DS9. According to JSM, the similarities between the two shows in question were, most likely, NOT accidental. He felt ripped off. I don't know if he chose to prosecute, or even if he had legal grounds to do so. From what I know, when submitting story ideas, you lose rights to what you pitch. A shaky argument, to say the least, but at least that's what they tell to those few and brave who pitch to Star Trek. Anyway, I just wanted to throw this into the mix. Cheers, JJ P.S. Another short brief of info regarding DS9.. I attended a Star Trek convention at the time that DS9 had just started out. Part of the guest list included Richard Arnold, Gene Rodenberry's controvertial personal assistant or gopher, as the online community referred to him. I was very happy to make his acquaintance, him being in Puerto Rico for the first time and all, and he was very gracious with his time, regaling me and my friends with legends of Gene Rodenberry and the Star Trek production crews. I remember asking him if Gene had any knowledge of DS9 before his death. The official Paramount story on this is that Berman met with him and explained him what they were doing. Upon knowing the concept of DS9, Rodenberry, who was at the time ill, managed to give Berman a thumbs-up. According to Arnold, this was a majorly fabricated lie. Gene said, (and I quote), you'll have to wait until I DIE before you do *that* Star Trek spinoff. The only reason Gene didn't fight them in court (again, this was according to Arnold) was that he was too old and sick to try anything. True or not? Well, they *did* wait until after Gene's death! ;-) P.P.S. I apologize for a possible missend. Seem to have pressed wrong button! _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Special Star Trek Request
The show is OK. It has its high points and its low points. I do know is that they are completely screwing with continuity in many ways. I like the show though; the premise makes it interesting. But it DOES suffer at times from typical Trek script writing (i.e. lots of potential, but at times bad writing). Damon. Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: Revell's Tiger Ausf. H ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Scouted: I Can't Believe I'm a Hawk
http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/08/opinion/08KELL.html Marvin Long Austin, Texas Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Poindexter Ashcroft, LLP (Formerly the USA) http://www.breakyourchains.org/john_poindexter.htm ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fw: General question
At 11:56 AM 2/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: On Sat, 8 Feb 2003, Charlie Bell wrote: As an example of this, one can consider the fact that one of the Palestinians cheering 9-11 was wearing a US sports jersey. Would that be in the archive footage that was used in reports worldwide that wasn't from then at all? I don't particularly care if some Palestinians tore their hair, wailed, didn't care, or danced in the streets after the attacks, or if there was a mix of all of these in proportions I'm also indifferent to; it's their business either way. But CNN at least has defended the provenance of their tapes and the original claimant that it was fake has recanted. There's a snopes page on it -- http://www.snopes.com/rumors/cnn.htm -- James S. Coleman Battista So, what's the question? Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Job Search Etiquette
1. Thank you notes: I wouldn't send a thank you, but only my view. I wouldn't want to be hired by a place that marked me higher because I thanked them for interviewing me. 2. Contacting persons directly: Are you talking about companies that are not advertising at the moment? This may be a good idea for those types, you'd get a call that will save them time and money actually advertising for applicants. OTOH some places have specific policies to guard against friends being hired, so they must advertise for any job. This brings up a third point: do you have any friends that work at places you'd like to get hired at? Three of my seven major jobs I got because I knew someone, I was called before the job was advertised. If it is a place that has an ad out, I'd follow their procedures. I'd rather work for a place that followed it's own rules. 3. Supervisor: I would not list that on my cover letter. If it comes up in an interview, then I would share. This is the great bugaboo about the work world. A former employer almost can't give you a bad recommendation unless you were fired for a criminal offense. A few applications I filed out stated to not put former supervisors down as references. For one job, there was a person who was my supervisor when I was hired, but not when I left. He told me I could use him for a reference, but for the job I have now he refused to recommend me, directing the call to the HR department. I don't know why you are leaving the DoD or where you live, and it may be tough to do in a recession, but I'd look for another federal or state job if you can. You can use the years already worked towards retirement. Of course if you are leaving because you want to make a lot more money, this would not be the way to go. Kevin T. - VRWC One year down, 29 to go. I love my job, I hope to never have to look for another. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index.html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on Thursday when it announced it would stop making floppy disk drives standard equipment on its higher end desktop personal computers. Austin, Texas-based Dell, the No. 2 personal computer maker, said floppy drives had been overtaken by technologies offering greater storage capacity and would become an option on its Dimension 8250 models. Other Dell models may lose the floppy by end of the year, depending on customer response, Dell spokesman Lionel Menchaca said. I am not surprised. For the last couple of years, many of my clients have bought products by Dell. I have noticed a distinct and annoying tendency in many of their models, coming from whatever brand of Floppy Drives they pack in their system, to seriously damage beyond repair after a couple of years of use. It usually starts by the drives eating the disks. Eventually, the drives stop reading disks altogether. Makes you wonder... JJ _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: gi joe
From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Brin-L [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gi joe Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 15:08:18 -0600 Yo Joe! He'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble. GI Joe is there. It's GI Joe against Qaida and Dubya Fighting to save the day. He never gives up. He's always there, Fighting for freedom over land and air Really cool show!! I miss it. It was running at the same time as the Transformers Generation One, right? ..Those were the days.. JJ _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Fw: General question
- Original Message - From: Kevin Tarr [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:27 PM Subject: Re: Fw: General question So, what's the question? ROTFLMAO. It was how many people here (besides Doug and myself) have children who are at least 16. It was a question I asked on Culture. I'm laughing at the thread creep, not you Kevin. :-) Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Segway scooter hot seller online
At 10:35 AM 2/8/2003 -0600, you wrote: At 03:17 PM 12/29/2002 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: The only way you'll get people in this country to take mass transit is to force them and I don't think that's likely to happen in the near future. In Washington, DC, however, our mass transit program is very successful and very well-utilized. Indeed, every time they expand mass transit service here, ridership has exceeded expectations. That would work well in the compact cities of the east, but out west where the cities spread out over large areas mass transit is a major hassle. I have used mass transit here in Houston. It is expensive and a bit difficult. You cant go anyplace you want in a reasonable amount of time. I have had 2 1/2 hour commutes one way that cost 4 or 5 dollars. That is quite a bit more expensive than driving yourself since most parking is free in Houston. OTOH, the Park'N'Ride bus are comfortable and nice. rob Smaller cities don't do mass transit either very well. I'd love to take the train in since the station is two blocks away, but the price is outrageous. The bus is, well it's the bus. They were not nice and not much better on the price. I tried some car pooling but the hours didn't match up. I drive myself in now and park for free. I leave and return early enough to miss the traffic, and a nice 15 minute walk each way. Now when summer comes, the hot days may be fun. Kevin T. - VRWC ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: war and peace
J. van Baardwijk wrote: Why would post-war Iraq be the first Iraqi republic? Iraq is *already* a republic. It's like the old Eastern Block countries. The more they called themselves democratic in the name of their country, the less likely it was to actually *be* a democracy. __ Steve Sloan . Huntsville, Alabama = [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brin-L list pages .. http://www.brin-l.org Chmeee's 3D Objects http://www.sloan3d.com/chmeee 3D and Drawing Galleries .. http://www.sloansteady.com Software Science Fiction, Science, and Computer Links Science fiction scans . http://www.sloan3d.com ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: According to JSM, the similarities between the two shows in question were, most likely, NOT accidental. He felt ripped off. I don't know if he chose to prosecute, or even if he had legal grounds to do so. From what I know, when submitting story ideas, you lose rights to what you pitch. A shaky argument, to say the least, but at least that's what they tell to those few and brave who pitch to Star Trek. On a similar note, from the last I heard, do NOT try to submit to Texas Monthly. Last I heard, they didn't solicit articles; if you wanted to write an article for them, they wanted an outline what sources you intended to use. An acquaintance of mine (whom I do not wish to name, but he is a published author of Texas history) did that, and got back a letter indicating that the article as suggested did not meet their needs. A few months later, he did the same with another idea. Just before *that* rejection letter arrived in the mail, the issue of Texas Monthly that came out right then had an article that pretty much followed his outline and used his sources -- written by one of their staff writers. There wasn't enough for him to feel confident in taking any sort of legal action against them. The second article idea met the same fate. He never submitted an idea to them after that. A couple of months after the initial article came out, he heard a similar story from a friend of his. So it wasn't just *him*. So, if you're contemplating submitting to Texas Monthly as a free-lancer, check their guidelines. If they still just want the outline sources, don't even bother. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: SCOUTED: Segway scooter hot seller online
John D. Giorgis wrote: At 03:17 PM 12/29/2002 -0800 Doug Pensinger wrote: The only way you'll get people in this country to take mass transit is to force them and I don't think that's likely to happen in the near future. In Washington, DC, however, our mass transit program is very successful and very well-utilized. Indeed, every time they expand mass transit service here, ridership has exceeded expectations. DC is a lot more compact than some other areas in which they're trying mass transit. Also, I get the impression that they're opening up new routes based on good solid *thinking*, not pipe dreams. DC has a reliable mass transit system. Austin's wasn't entirely reliable, last I used it. And now there isn't any route convenient for anything *I* would want to use it for, so I don't. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: gi joe
From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yo Joe! He'll fight for freedom where ever there's trouble. GI Joe is there. It's GI Joe against Qaida and Dubya Fighting to save the day. He never gives up. He's always there, Fighting for freedom over land and air Really cool show!! I miss it. It was running at the same time as the Transformers Generation One, right? Yes. ..Those were the days.. cartoon network, saturdays 12 midnight - 1 ET http://schedule.cartoonnetwork.com/servlet/ScheduleServlet?action=selectDa y ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: B5 dvd Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:21:00 -0500 On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:18:25PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Speaking of B5, I was reminded of a story which I'd like to share with you guys... I don't know if this is common knowledge, since I'm totally disconnected from B5 I once had the pleasure and opportunity to exchange email with B5's creator, JM Straczinsky (sp?). He was a really cool guy to talk to, very candid and down-to-Earth. At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address what he referred to as a striking coincidences between suspense novels and email? Good one! LOL :-) I guess he was referring to the fact that both shows, at the time, took place mostly on space stations on the hind-end of space. Etc., etc., etc., Which was one of my major nitpicks with the show. The premise of Star Trek: to boldly go... DS9 just sits there; it doesn't go anywhere. Jj _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Special Star Trek Request
From: John D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Special Star Trek Request Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:40:53 -0500 At 09:07 PM 2/8/2003 + Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Is ST:ENTERPRISE any good? Does it live up to the standards set by TOS and the first 6 Trek films? It has its moments - in both ends. I remember finding one of its episodes absolutely unwatchable.Others end up being the sort of entertaining stories we expect from Star Trek.In general, like many-a-series in only its second season, I think that it is still searching for its stride, and has the potential to become quite good. Given that it is run by the Star Trek franchise, however, it will undoubedly leave us wondering what might have been. :( You hit the nail on the head. I mean, these people need a reality check. Come on, you have the same producers and basically the same writing staff which has worked on TNG, DS9, VOYAGER and 4 movies. How creative can they be? Is the word BURNOUT in their vocabulary??? (Okay, I'll give credit to ST: FIRST CONTR..err..CONTACT. But you can't deny that Kirk's death in GENERATIONS totally sucked). :-) Amen.The Undiscovered Country is DEATH!Kirk was supposed to die to bring peace between the Federation and the Klingons! Sigh. JDG - What Might Have Been Maru If Kirk really, totally and absolutely had to die, IMHO, he should've died on the bridge of his ship. And I think they shouldn't have killed that character off. For me, his death alienated a large sector of the fans, regardless of whatever antics Shatner does off-screen. JJ _ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
On 8 Feb 2003 at 23:13, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2003/TECH/ptech/02/07/dell.floppydisks.reut/index. html Dell saying bye to floppy disk drives Excerpt: AUSTIN, Texas (Reuters) -- In what may be the wave of the future, Dell Computer said goodbye to the past on Thursday when it announced it would stop making floppy disk drives standard equipment on its higher end desktop personal computers. Austin, Texas-based Dell, the No. 2 personal computer maker, said floppy drives had been overtaken by technologies offering greater storage capacity and would become an option on its Dimension 8250 models. Other Dell models may lose the floppy by end of the year, depending on customer response, Dell spokesman Lionel Menchaca said. I am not surprised. For the last couple of years, many of my clients have bought products by Dell. I have noticed a distinct and annoying tendency in many of their models, coming from whatever brand of Floppy Drives they pack in their system, to seriously damage beyond repair after a couple of years of use. It usually starts by the drives eating the disks. Eventually, the drives stop reading disks altogether. Makes you wonder... That's just cheap drives. I still have about thirty of those in storage. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Best Dr. Who Actors
On Monday, February 3, 2003, at 01:55 PM, The Fool wrote: From: John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:31 PM, The Fool wrote: From: John Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Since we're mentioning Dr. Who Which of the actors was your favorite? I like Jon Pertwee if for nothing else the looks he threw to the Brigadier when the doctor thought the Brigadier was being particularly obtuse. Tom baker, holding a jelly baby to a lackeys throat, and telling him to stick em up... Colin Baker would have been great, if he hadn't gotten the shaft. What happened to Baker? They sabatoged him. They suspended Dr Who for 18 months. They did everything they could to get rid of him. They dumped him after the season after the 18 month hiatus. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Damn BBC! john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Chapter by Chapter summary/discussion of a different Brin book?
Cool! I vote for Earth. john On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 06:33 AM, Jon Gabriel wrote: I was thinking that perhaps I would try and pick up the slack where JDG left off and volunteer to try my hand at a chapter by chapter summary of a Brin book of the list's choosing. So, I have a couple of questions and requests before I volunteer: a) Which book would we like to review and discuss next? (I'm not interested in finishing Glory Season's review, frankly. It's the only DB book I never liked.) b) Would a summary/review of a non-Brin book be of interest to anyone? I'm probably most comfortable with DB, but am willing to give it a shot. :) c) Could someone please send me a couple of JDG's posts on GS so I can look over the format? Offlist is ok. My personal archive only goes back about 6 months or so. What do you think? My only caveat would be that y'all please have patience with me in getting them out. :) Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Candlestick Rocket Ship
Haley's Helpful Hints says to use an absorbent paper towel and an iron on low setting. Place the paper towel on the wax, and place the iron on the towel. Remove after a few seconds, and some of the wax will have transferred to the paper towel. Repeat as necessary. During a recent PBS pledge drive, Mr. Haley demonstrated this technique, live. Your mileage may vary, however. john On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 09:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I seem to recall something about ironing over a paper bag (that would absorb it), but I would wait for someone to validate that before trying it Dee *** While we're on the topic, does anyone have any helpful hints on removing spilled candle wax from carpet? Oops Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: UK dossier on Iraq
On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 06:37 AM, Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten wrote: Miller, Jeffrey wrote: -Original Message- From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 02:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Jon Gabriel wrote: By what I understand of your reasoning, the US should have waited until it was directly attacked by Germany before entering WWII Eh... as far as I know that is exactly what the US did, it minded it's own borders. They did some supplying to the Brittish before they entered but undoubtably made a neat profit in the process. Actually, IIRC (having recently read Rise Fall of the 3rd Reich) the program was run at a loss, financially speaking. Do you have a link on that. The financial side of the war is the only thing I'm not able to find Didn't we have a resident expert on the WWs on this list? Hey, are you out there? Ask and you shall receive: Lend-lease was created in March 1941 because by that time, Great Britain and the other Allies were running out of funds with which to purchase weapons and other assistance from the U.S. Nearly 51 billion US (1940's dollars) was dispensed to over 40 countries including the Soviet Union (after Hitler attacked.) That translates to over 600 billion in 1994 dollars (the date of my reference book). As for running at a loss, several countries provided the U.S. with what was called reverse lend-lease, goods, equipment, and in the case of Great Britain, naval bases. The approximate value of this was about 10 billion, which leaves a deficit of 41 billion. It is important to remember that nearly all the money involved was spent in the U.S. Still, Lend-Lease was as Churchill put it, the most unselfish act of any country in history. john ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: B5 dvd
Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address the questions regarding what was referred to, at the time, as a striking similarities between B5 and DS9. According to JMS, he had the chance to pitch his story idea to the producers of Star Trek, shortly before Gene Rodenberry's death. His pitch was rejected. Months later, Paramount announced the release of DS9. According to JSM, the similarities between the two shows in question were, most likely, NOT accidental. He felt ripped off. I don't know if he chose to prosecute, or even if he had legal grounds to do so. In the end, he decided not to prosecute. In various posts of his to the newsgroup Rec.Arts.Scifi.Tv.B5.moderated and on Genie and AOL, he as stated that he doesn't think Pillar, Berman, Taylor, or any of the other creative people involved in DS9 stole his ideas or even knew about his pitch (in fact, IIRC he is still good friends with Jeri Taylor, one of the original DS9 production and writing crew), but he thinks that the network suits kept feeding ideas to creative about the kind of show that they would support. Most of jms's postings to the places I mentioned above are collected at http://www.jmsnews.com . There's a post from June 19, 1995 with the subject heading Re: DS9 vs B5 comments where addresses his view of what happened in some detail, from a viewpoint of 3 years after both B5 and DS9 were announced. If anyone wants to read it but doesn't have the time to navigate through jmsnews.com, just let me know offlist and I'll email you a copy. (jms has given blanket permission for anyone to repost or resend any of his posts.) If you're really interested and have the time to dig through for relevant posts, the first several months of the jmsnews.com archive back from late 1991 and early 1992 have lots of more detailed info as it was happening. Reggie Bautista Interesting Stuff Maru _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Job Search Etiquette
Gary Nunn wrote: 1. After an interview (phone or in person) is it appropriate to send a thank you - either a hand written card or an email. Since I am looking for jobs in the IT field, I tend to favor email. Some sources say the thank you is virtually mandatory and some sources say that it is more of an annoyance because they don't want to waste the time to read them. I worked as a temp quite extensively before getting my current tech support job, and have acted as a secretary to folks involved in hiring in scientific, technical, and medical environments. If you send a thank you note or card or email, that makes the people involved in hiring remember you that much more over the others that they interviewed. Even those managers who told me they were annoyed by such notes seemed to remember the thank you senders in a more positive light than the other interview-ees. With only a few limitations, the more they hear or read your name, the better off you are. 2. Recently I have been contacting companies to find the name of the person that will be actually receiving my resume and addressing this to them directly. The source that gave me this idea says that this shows initiative. Any thoughts? If you are simply finding out the name, then definitely yes. Putting the correct person's name on a cover letter will make them remember you that much more. It will certainly set your cover letter and resume apart from the majority of received resumes. When you are one resume out of a couple of hundred resumes, any little thing that sets you apart as being particularly resourceful or polite or professional will make it more likely that your resume will actually get read, and not just dumped in file 13. However, I would not attempt to contact the hiring person directly via telephone or email. Some places don't mind if you call to verify they received your resume, but beyond that, don't do it. Some places, some hiring people, won't mind, but many places will be upset that you are wasting their time, and if your resume is on the bubble, that might be enough cause for it to get trashed. 3. This question is one that I am personally on the fence with - My supervisor at the DoD is really great about supporting people when they have opportunities to move up and advance in position, job or salary. He consistently has given glowing references for all of us. So, I put in my cover letters that my supervisor is aware that I am seeking other employment and is listed as one of my professional references. I had a recruiter tell me that this gives a negative impression - kind of like we are mutually agreeing that I should leave. I have always thought this would be a positive since they could always contact my current employer for a reference. Any thoughts on this specific issue would be appreciated. Putting this info on your cover letter is a gamble. If you can find out for certain that the person doing the hiring at a given company is supportive of people moving up and out of their own organization, then I would say definitely mention in your cover letter that your supervisor is aware and supportive of your job search, and include (briefly) the reasons. The average amount of time a person spends in an IT position is something like 18 months according to a few different sources I've read, and most IT hiring people will know that. That being said, if you aren't sure that the person doing the hiring is supportive of their people progressing out of their company, I'd recommend against including mention of your current supervisor in your cover letter, other than perhaps to mention your good relationship with that supervisor and that you are looking forward to making other such good relationships at your new company. Many places also require you fill out a formal job application, and will usually ask on this application if they can contact your current employer. In fact, places that require such an app also usually prefer to see your references on that application, not on the resume. Strangely enough, I've never known a manager or other hiring person who has had a problem with References Available Upon Request at the bottom of the resume instead of the actual references. But in your case, it might play to your advantage to include your references since your current employer is among them. Most hirers are savvy enough to know that government contractors (both the companies and the employees of those companies) change jobs from time to time as a matter of course, and if you are moving out of a position with a contractor, I don't think anyone would think badly of that, especially given the statistic I gave above about IT jobs lasting 18 months on average. Best of luck on your job search, and I hope this helps. Reggie Bautista Tech Support Is Much Better Than Clerical Temping Maru _ Add photos to your messages
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Sonja wrote: In windows everything should be cool, as long as you got all the 'hide files' functions unchecked in exploder. Heh :-) I've heard it called a lot of things, and I suppose exploder is as good a description as any of what happens to files all too often in Windows... Reggie Bautista _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
George A. wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but Pascal has always been my favorite language, going back to Turbo Pascal on my Apple II+. Many moons ago... many *dozens* of moons ago, when I was in high school, I took programming classes in BASIC, FORTAN, COBOL, and Pascal. Pascal was definitely the most fun and most interesting, and the one I remember most (even though I haven't used it at all in well over a dozen years). Apple II+... I remember Pascal on a TRS-80 Model 2, 5 1/4 inch floppies and all, back when the best word-processor on the market was Electric Pencil. Those were the days :-) Reggie Bautista Has it really been that long? Maru _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Everquest Economics
JGD wrote: Fantasy Economics Why economists are obsessed with online role-playing games. By Robert Shapiro Updated Tuesday, February 4, 2003, at 11:26 AM PT The most popular article in the leading economics Web archive doesn't concern tax policy, international trade, or the theory of the firm. It's about an online fantasy game. [stuff about Everquest's economy snipped] One thing that helps Everquest's economy work as well as it does is the fact that if you violate the terms of service, people will complain about you and the admins *will* take action against you if you are a repeat violator. This tends to make trade (and everything else) run a bit smoother... Interesting article. Thanks for posting it. Reggie Bautista _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). ROM upgrades require a floppy boot disk. How will we upgrade ROM? George A - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you are one of those hundreds of thousands of people who still use Windows NT 4.0, which doesn't have USB support... Apple gave their users the same problem several years ago. We had several hundred (around 5 - 600) floppies in my office that had to be converted to cd. Took an intern days to copy them onto a hard drive, organize and package them for burning. (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) Could have cheerfully killed Apple at the time. :( But... this has happened before with 5.25 floppies, so I guess there's a precedent. This still leaves users with another problem: boot floppies. When the OS won't boot, you can still boot your computer with the OS boot floppy (or rescue disk, or whatever it's called) and try and fix the problem -- or at least backup your data before reinstalling everything. No floppy drive, no emergency boot floppies... You weren't able to get that memory stick drive working?? Yes and no. It works under Windows 2000, and if and when I'll bother to install the driver it will also work under Windows 98. However, both OS's are running on the same PC (together with NT 4), so there is little use for that memory stick. Can't use it for transferring data to other computers, either. The PC's I use at work all run NT 4. If and when I need to transfer data between my laptop and my home desktop PC, I do that over the network -- the only doable option anyway, as the desktop PC is so old that it doesn't have an USB port. Jeroen Tech Support van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: All Government Agencies Lie Some of the Time....
Andy wrote: I'm in favour of dropping the bathwater (NASA) but not the baby (Space) I agree with what Andy says here, even though I don't agree with how he expanded on it in a later post. I think the current NASA program has lots of problems, and doesn't do a whole lot of science, and I wouldn't have much of a problem with many of the current NASA programs being scrapped. But I do believe it is very important that the government continue to fund a space program, particularly one that is aimed at eventually putting human colonies (eventually, self-sufficient colonies) in orbit and/or on the moon and/or other planets, if for no other reason that if something catastrophic were to happen here on Earth right now, the whole human race could be eradicated. Eventually, even if it isn't for millions of years, we will need to leave this solar system if we intend to continue to survive as a species. Given the likelihood that light speed is going to be the speed limit for the forseeable future, the sooner we start, the better. Reggie Bautista Lng Term Planning Maru _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: healthy chiles
The Supreme is popular and well as the one (I forget the name) with the same amount of meat as on a medium sized cow (meat eaters or beef lovers). Koreans like corn on pizza as well. George A P.S. Just in case you were hoping to hear dog, nope. No dog pizza. Dog is still served here but it is quite discreet in populated areas. It is much more prevalent in rural Korea and with the old generation. It is usually a soup. I've never had it (knowingly). - Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:34 AM Subject: Re: Scouted: healthy chiles On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:09:59PM +0900, G. D. Akin wrote: In Korea the favorite may be McDonald's, but Pizza Hut is a close second. What are the favorite types (and toppings) of Pizza at Korean Pizza Huts? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Marketing in Music
JDG wrote: Subject: Those pervert Brits... Another sure sign of cultural decay... Not just the showers Tatu Soars to Top of the British Pop Charts By Kevin O'Flynn [very big snip] Child protection group Kidscape called the group pathetic and said it was targeting dirty old men. This makes them different from Brittany Spears how? Reggie Bautista _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Special Star Trek Request
Jose, I've started taping episodes to send to Julia (low-quality, 6 to a tape). (A friend had requested them, but she'll probably watch 'em all in 48 hours and get the tape back to me quickly.) Perhaps when Julia's done with each tape she would be willing to forward them on to you? What do you think, Julia? Jon GSV Lending Library Another glorious chapter of Klingon history. Tell me, do they still sing songs of the Great Tribble Hunt? ~Odo~ / Deep Space Nine -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 4:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Special Star Trek Request Dear Brin-L'rs: I have an unusual request, but it comes out of major curiosity. UPN is nowhere to be found on Cable systems in Puerto Rico. It seems to be unavailable for the Caribbean as well, since DIRECTTV and USNET don't carry it. I have never seen Star Trek: Enterprise. I used to be a major fan of TOS, as well as of TNG. I'm sorry, but DS9 lost me MAJOR. VOYAGER is okay, in small doses. However, I have never seen an episode of ENTERPRISE. Is ST:ENTERPRISE any good? Does it live up to the standards set by TOS and the first 6 Trek films? (Okay, I'll give credit to ST: FIRST CONTR..err..CONTACT. But you can't deny that Kirk's death in GENERATIONS totally sucked). :-) I'm willing to cover all charges if any kind soul, out there, would tape for me, or send me, episodes of the ENTERPRISE show. We can work out a deal. Email me privately to iron out the details. Your help will be MUCH appreciated. A Mendicant TrekFan, JJ _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Special Star Trek Request
In Korea, we will be getting season 2 in April. For me, I was impressed with Enterprise, Season 1 and look forward to April. George A - Original Message - From: Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 6:07 AM Subject: Special Star Trek Request Dear Brin-L'rs: I have an unusual request, but it comes out of major curiosity. UPN is nowhere to be found on Cable systems in Puerto Rico. It seems to be unavailable for the Caribbean as well, since DIRECTTV and USNET don't carry it. I have never seen Star Trek: Enterprise. I used to be a major fan of TOS, as well as of TNG. I'm sorry, but DS9 lost me MAJOR. VOYAGER is okay, in small doses. However, I have never seen an episode of ENTERPRISE. Is ST:ENTERPRISE any good? Does it live up to the standards set by TOS and the first 6 Trek films? (Okay, I'll give credit to ST: FIRST CONTR..err..CONTACT. But you can't deny that Kirk's death in GENERATIONS totally sucked). :-) I'm willing to cover all charges if any kind soul, out there, would tape for me, or send me, episodes of the ENTERPRISE show. We can work out a deal. Email me privately to iron out the details. Your help will be MUCH appreciated. A Mendicant TrekFan, JJ _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
I've read that Delphi is really visual Pascal. Is that true? George A - Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies George A. wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but Pascal has always been my favorite language, going back to Turbo Pascal on my Apple II+. Many moons ago... many *dozens* of moons ago, when I was in high school, I took programming classes in BASIC, FORTAN, COBOL, and Pascal. Pascal was definitely the most fun and most interesting, and the one I remember most (even though I haven't used it at all in well over a dozen years). Apple II+... I remember Pascal on a TRS-80 Model 2, 5 1/4 inch floppies and all, back when the best word-processor on the market was Electric Pencil. Those were the days :-) Reggie Bautista Has it really been that long? Maru _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
On 8 Feb 2003 at 23:01, Reggie Bautista wrote: George A wrote: I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). ROM upgrades require a floppy boot disk. How will we upgrade ROM? Would a bootable CD work? Reggie Bautista Seriously, I Really Want To Know Maru As a note, you can't boot NT off a floppy anyway. And most modern motherboards have programs provided by the manufacurer which allow re-flashing. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Installed a Z-80 card in my Apple II+ so I could run CP/M as well as Apple DOS. I had PL/I compiler that ran wonderfully. I used to teach a class in PL/I at the University of Baltimore. I used my AppleII+ to develop all my class projects. It's not much compared to what we have these days, but the Apple was pretty useful in those days. 300baud modem . . . WOW! George A - Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 1:33 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies George A. wrote: The only problem (a sentimental one) with this for me is I will have to give up my Borland Pascal 7.0. I still have the original 12 or 13 720Kb 3.5 floppies and everytime I upgrade my computer, one of the first things I do is install it. I know it is old and has fallen out of use and favor, but Pascal has always been my favorite language, going back to Turbo Pascal on my Apple II+. Many moons ago... many *dozens* of moons ago, when I was in high school, I took programming classes in BASIC, FORTAN, COBOL, and Pascal. Pascal was definitely the most fun and most interesting, and the one I remember most (even though I haven't used it at all in well over a dozen years). Apple II+... I remember Pascal on a TRS-80 Model 2, 5 1/4 inch floppies and all, back when the best word-processor on the market was Electric Pencil. Those were the days :-) Reggie Bautista Has it really been that long? Maru _ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
Yeah, that's true. I really haven't had to upgrade a ROM in quite sometime. ROM upgrades by floppy may be OBE. George A - Original Message - From: Andrew Crystall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies On 8 Feb 2003 at 23:01, Reggie Bautista wrote: George A wrote: I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). ROM upgrades require a floppy boot disk. How will we upgrade ROM? Would a bootable CD work? Reggie Bautista Seriously, I Really Want To Know Maru As a note, you can't boot NT off a floppy anyway. And most modern motherboards have programs provided by the manufacurer which allow re-flashing. Andy Dawn Falcon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: B5 dvd
The shows were really quite different once you got past the obvious similarities. I used to watch them both. What made DS9 an above-average show was the in-depth character development and a willingness on the part of the writers and producers to tackle difficult topics and questions. The show became a true serial series somewhere in the fifth season, which made it stand apart (in a positive way) from the other ST shows. But the Dominion War was not a popular storyline for the writers and producers, and they took a lot of flak for taking Roddenberry's upbeat vision of a perfect universe and making it more gritty and realistic. Removing the saccharine quality that Trek had to that point was, imo, really worthwhile. Things don't wrap themselves up neatly in the real world. I wasn't personally hooked until I saw the fourth season episode The Visitor. That was the point where the series finally took off for me. B5 had a completely different universe to work with and was, for the most part, filled with good stories and decent character development. But I never really felt J. Straczinsky had a case in his complaint. I think if he had watched DS9 objectively he would have seen how different they were. Enterprise has its moments. Seeing a Trek show not rely on deus ex machina endings is a relief but I wish the writers would take more chances -- do more controversial storylines and really hook our interests. We'll see... they still have a good 5 seasons to go. Jon C.J.: The more photo-friendly of the two turkeys gets a Presidential pardon and a full life at a children's petting zoo. The other one gets eaten. Pres. Bartlet: If the Oscars were like that, I'd watch. ~The West Wing~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: B5 dvd From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: B5 dvd Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 16:21:00 -0500 On Sat, Feb 08, 2003 at 09:18:25PM +, Jose J. Ortiz-Carlo wrote: Speaking of B5, I was reminded of a story which I'd like to share with you guys... I don't know if this is common knowledge, since I'm totally disconnected from B5 I once had the pleasure and opportunity to exchange email with B5's creator, JM Straczinsky (sp?). He was a really cool guy to talk to, very candid and down-to-Earth. At the time, which was near the launch of both B5 and DS9, Straczinsky took the opportunity to address what he referred to as a striking coincidences between suspense novels and email? Good one! LOL :-) I guess he was referring to the fact that both shows, at the time, took place mostly on space stations on the hind-end of space. Etc., etc., etc., Which was one of my major nitpicks with the show. The premise of Star Trek: to boldly go... DS9 just sits there; it doesn't go anywhere. Jj _ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More on Afghanistan
I just got the numbers on what we are spending to rebuild Afganistan: http://www.msnbc.com/news/808786.asp the State Department's Andrew Natsios, administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), chats with MSNBC.com about how the United States is providing food, money, and supplies to rebuild the new Afghanistan. Andrew Natsios: We're not untouched by it but there is sufficient security. We pledged 297 million dollars in January, the United States did, at the Afghan pledging conference in Tokyo and we spent 275 million of that. Who here thinks 300 million is enough? Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Tech Support Madness
The current storyline of the online comic strip User Friendly involves a tech support guy who has gone off the deep end. Thursday's issue is at: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030206 The beginning of this storyline is at: http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20030127 For Jeroen and for anyone else who's ever done tech support, definitely check this out. Reggie Bautista The Pain, The Pain! Maru _ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Wooden Wagon Wheels [ was Re: All Government Agencies Lie Some ofthe Time....]
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 10:54 PM Subject: Re: All Government Agencies Lie Some of the Time Andy wrote: I'm in favour of dropping the bathwater (NASA) but not the baby (Space) I agree with what Andy says here, even though I don't agree with how he expanded on it in a later post. I disagree with most of what I read on the list regarding this subject actually I think the current NASA program has lots of problems, and doesn't do a whole lot of science, Thats just plain wrong Reggie. NASA doesnt do a lot of good science on the shuttle would be more accurate even though it might be debated. But you have to recognise that NASA's contributions to astronomy if nothing else. NASA has several space observatories in operation currently including Hubble, a gamma ray observatory, an x-ray observatory and a couple of others IIRC. (Ronn?) NASA also spends a lot of money on materials science, biosciences, enviromental research, physics, computer sciences A visit to http://www.nasa.com will fill you in a bit. and I wouldn't have much of a problem with many of the current NASA programs being scrapped. But I do believe it is very important that the government continue to fund a space program, particularly one that is aimed at eventually putting human colonies (eventually, self-sufficient colonies) in orbit and/or on the moon and/or other planets, if for no other reason that if something catastrophic were to happen here on Earth right now, the whole human race could be eradicated. Eventually, even if it isn't for millions of years, we will need to leave this solar system if we intend to continue to survive as a species. Given the likelihood that light speed is going to be the speed limit for the forseeable future, the sooner we start, the better. While I contend that that is pretty much exactly what NASA already does (and would do more of if it were funded properly), I agree with the necessity of moving in that direction if for different reasons. I believe in establishing a presence in spaceBecause We Want To Explore the planets?Because we want to. Colonize and exploit the solar system? Cuz we wanna! In the course of time those who do these things will become wealthy. What is holding us back is timidity, laziness, and greed. Think about it a second. We have never built a single spaceship. Landing craft. Orbital craft. A few lunar orbiters and lunar landing craft. But never a true, actual spaceship. It is as if people are waiting for roads to be built for our wooden wagon wheels. Those roads will be the equatorial space elevators, and they are still a ways off. Until then we should set off across the prairie lashed to the horses we have and the horses we can get and do the things we want to do. Its not beyond our reach. And to think so is a failure of the imagination. xponent Unpaid Editorial Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More on Afghanistan
Dan wrote: Who here thinks 300 million is enough? Of course it's enough... for a start ;-) It's gonna cost a *lot* more than that, before it's all over, if we want to insure stability to the best that we are able. Anyone want to do a quick cost/benefit analysis for the list? Reggie Bautista _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Eco-Terrorism
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/01/0130_030123_fox.html Eco-Terrorism Blamed for Tasmania Red Fox Release Elizabeth M. Tasker for National Geographic News January 30, 2003 Wildlife officers and local citizens on the Australian island state of Tasmania are fighting a desperate battle to eradicate a small number of European red foxes that were illegally released there in 2001. The fox poses a huge threat to native Australian fauna, having caused the decline and extinction of many native species on mainland Australia. Wildlife managers estimate there may be up to 30 million foxes on the mainland. The absence of the red fox in Tasmania is the main reason that the island has been something of a Noah's Ark for Australian animals. Authorities are racing against time to find and eradicate illegally introduced European red foxes before they decimate the unique fauna of Tasmania. But that may be about to change. It will be an unmitigated disaster if foxes establish in Tasmania, said Chris Dickman, an associate professor of biology at the University of Sydney. It's unbelievable that there are people around that hate the Australian environment so much that they'd intentionally introduce foxes there. Foxes Invade Tasmania Tasmania is a lush island about the size of Scotland, located off the coast of southeastern Australia. Although settled by Europeans in 1803, much of the island remains a wilderness, and national parks and reserves cover more than a third of its area. The island state is home to many native animals that occur nowhere else in the world. It is the last refuge for many species that used to be widespread, but are now extinct or endangered on the Australian mainland because of foxes, such as the Eastern Quoll and Tasmanian Bettong, said Dickman. Tasmania has lost only one species of native mammal since European colonization, the Thylacine, also known as the Tasmanian Tiger, a carnivorous marsupial which was hunted to extinction by the mid-1930s. In contrast, mainland Australia has the worst record of mammal extinctions in the world, with 17 species lost in the last 200 years, and many others critically endangered and only just hanging on. Foxes were first introduced to Australia in the 1850s by wealthy settlers who wanted to hunt them on horseback. Australia had native predators of its own, but foxes hunt in a different and more cunning way and have a broad and adaptable diet. By the 1930s they had colonized most of the continent. The conventional wisdom is that medium-sized mammals and birds are most vulnerable to foxes, and this is certainly the case, said Dickman. But it is becoming clear that foxes also take small mammals and harass larger animals like grey kangaroos, forcing them to drop their joeys [babies] in fear. Foxes also carry and transmit several diseases, eat and spread seeds from noxious weeds, and kill livestock. A Desperate Race Two foxes were shot in northern Tasmania in 2001; since then hundreds of sightings have been reported. What many had been dreading had happenedfoxes had made it onto the Ark. There is evidence indicating that several litters of fox cubs were intentionallyand illegallysmuggled on to the island, reared, and then released at several locations across the state. It's more or less eco-terrorism, said Nick Mooney, scientific advisor to the Tasmanian Fox Free Taskforce set up in 2001 in response to the emergency. Wildlife biologists estimate that there are probably 10 to 20 foxes currently in Tasmania. The taskforce has 21 full-time employees manning a telephone hotline, responding to reported sightings, conducting a statewide education campaign, and coordinating efforts to find the foxes and to prevent any further introductions. The sense of urgency is motivated by the fact that foxes mate in winter, and most cubs are born in spring. Over the summer, which is December to February in the southern hemisphere, the fox cubs become independent and establish their own territories. It's a pretty important time, because if they've bred, now is when the pups will turn up, said Mooney. If we can get through this summer and autumn without any sightings of pups, that will be great news. So far no young foxes have been seen. But as Mooney points out, foxes are very secretive and quickly learn to avoid people and risky situations. This makes eradication by shooting impractical when the population is relatively small. The taskforce made the difficult decision to use baits laced with poison in areas where the foxes have been reported. Using poison bait poses some danger to native fauna, but the alternative is much worse, said Mooney. Various safety measures, such as burying bait deeper than native species usually dig, have been put in place to minimize the threat to native carnivores. We need to have a whole community that understands how bad [having foxes in Tasmania] this is, so that it can't happen again, said
Re: More on Afghanistan
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:14 AM Subject: Re: More on Afghanistan Dan wrote: Who here thinks 300 million is enough? Of course it's enough... for a start ;-) OK, I didn't give a time frame. That was a year's spending, as far as I can tell. It's gonna cost a *lot* more than that, before it's all over, if we want to insure stability to the best that we are able. Anyone want to do a quick cost/benefit analysis for the list? Reggie Bautista _ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Wooden Wagon Wheels [ was Re: All Government Agencies Lie SomeoftheTime....]
I wrote: I think the current NASA program has lots of problems, and doesn't do a whole lot of science, Rob replied: Thats just plain wrong Reggie. NASA doesnt do a lot of good science on the shuttle would be more accurate even though it might be debated. But you have to recognise that NASA's contributions to astronomy if nothing else. NASA has several space observatories in operation currently including Hubble, a gamma ray observatory, an x-ray observatory and a couple of others IIRC. (Ronn?) I rewrote that sentence about 20 times, and in the end pushed send on a version I didn't mean to go out. I basically meant your second sentence above, NASA doesn't do a lot of good science on the shuttle or on the ISS. Certainly Hubble, the recent solar observer (can't remember the name right now), and the other astronomy-related things you mention are valid. I pretty much agree with everything else you say, except for this: In the course of time those who do these things will become wealthy. What is holding us back is timidity, laziness, and greed. I would say that greedy people who think long-term would definitely want to be involved in the future of space exploration and colonization. It's just the greedy who think only short-term who are causing all the under-funding problems. Its not beyond our reach. And to think so is a failure of the imagination. Amen. Reggie Bautista _ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More on Afghanistan
- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Re: More on Afghanistan I just got the numbers on what we are spending to rebuild Afganistan: http://www.msnbc.com/news/808786.asp the State Department's Andrew Natsios, administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), chats with MSNBC.com about how the United States is providing food, money, and supplies to rebuild the new Afghanistan. Andrew Natsios: We're not untouched by it but there is sufficient security. We pledged 297 million dollars in January, the United States did, at the Afghan pledging conference in Tokyo and we spent 275 million of that. Who here thinks 300 million is enough? I expect it will take multiple billions. xponent There Goes The Space Program Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: Wooden Wagon Wheels [ was Re: All Government Agencies LieSomeofthe Time....]
- Original Message - From: Reggie Bautista [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:22 AM Subject: Re: Wooden Wagon Wheels [ was Re: All Government Agencies Lie Someofthe Time] I wrote: I think the current NASA program has lots of problems, and doesn't do a whole lot of science, Rob replied: Thats just plain wrong Reggie. NASA doesnt do a lot of good science on the shuttle would be more accurate even though it might be debated. But you have to recognise that NASA's contributions to astronomy if nothing else. NASA has several space observatories in operation currently including Hubble, a gamma ray observatory, an x-ray observatory and a couple of others IIRC. (Ronn?) I rewrote that sentence about 20 times, and in the end pushed send on a version I didn't mean to go out. I basically meant your second sentence above, NASA doesn't do a lot of good science on the shuttle or on the ISS. Certainly Hubble, the recent solar observer (can't remember the name right now), and the other astronomy-related things you mention are valid. Cool! There is so much more to NASA than the shuttle and ISS. I pretty much agree with everything else you say, except for this: In the course of time those who do these things will become wealthy. What is holding us back is timidity, laziness, and greed. I would say that greedy people who think long-term would definitely want to be involved in the future of space exploration and colonization. It's just the greedy who think only short-term who are causing all the under-funding problems. I'm thinking mainly of those who are impediments to space exploration. Porkbarrel afficienados, those with competing programs, and those elements within the government who are obstacles to the private launch initiatives. Its not beyond our reach. And to think so is a failure of the imagination. Amen. Reggie Bautista xponent Worlds Without End Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of J. van Baardwijk Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 7:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you are one of those hundreds of thousands of people who still use Windows NT 4.0, which doesn't have USB support... Apple gave their users the same problem several years ago. We had several hundred (around 5 - 600) floppies in my office that had to be converted to cd. Took an intern days to copy them onto a hard drive, organize and package them for burning. (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) Could have cheerfully killed Apple at the time. :( But... this has happened before with 5.25 floppies, so I guess there's a precedent. This still leaves users with another problem: boot floppies. When the OS won't boot, you can still boot your computer with the OS boot floppy (or rescue disk, or whatever it's called) and try and fix the problem -- or at least backup your data before reinstalling everything. No floppy drive, no emergency boot floppies... Apple's standard solution was to treat the CD-R or CD-RW as the new floppy. Considering that the MacOS had become way too large to fit into 1.4MB's, they really had no choice. Since most, if not all modern computers have a 'boot from cd' option in the cmos, this is probably where dell will head. You weren't able to get that memory stick drive working?? Yes and no. It works under Windows 2000, and if and when I'll bother to install the driver it will also work under Windows 98. However, both OS's are running on the same PC (together with NT 4), so there is little use for that memory stick. Can't use it for transferring data to other computers, either. The PC's I use at work all run NT 4. If and when I need to transfer data between my laptop and my home desktop PC, I do that over the network -- the only doable option anyway, as the desktop PC is so old that it doesn't have an USB port. USB cards are cheap these days. It's unfortunate about the memory stick. A waste of money for you :( Jon ROU Technology Sucks Sometimes ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Possible New Columbia Clue
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/02/08/columbia/main539926.shtml One week after the space shuttle Columbia disaster, CBS News has exclusive new information on what might have damaged the spacecraft and left it vulnerable to the searing heat of re-entry. It's a potential new clue to the failure that claimed the lives of seven astronauts. CBS News space consultant William Harwood is at Johnson Space Center in Houston, and offers this exclusive information: NASA flight controllers are looking into the possibility, we've learned today, that something might have struck the shuttle about a day after launch. That's not clear yet. But sources say data from Air Force tracking radar indicates the possibility that a piece of the shuttle may have come off. They see something that appears to be separating from the orbiter about five meters per second. That's about 11 miles per hour. It's not confirmed yet, but flight controllers are going back through their data to see if there's anything in the telemetry from the shuttle that would indicate what might have happened. Obviously, if something did come off the shuttle with the velocity like that, it implies that perhaps the shuttle was struck by something, with space debris being a possibility, and that could then explain what might have weakened the wing and the thermal system of the shuttle to leave it vulnerable during re-entry. All that has yet to be confirmed. This is simply a potential clue that NASA is giving much attention to. But there could be another explanation than something hitting the shuttle. They're looking back at the telemetry to see if perhaps the shuttle was doing a water dump at that time. The shuttle periodically dumps water overboard that instantly turns to ice and streams away from the orbiter. But sources have said that it looks as if the object might have been in orbit another two days before re-entering the atmosphere, and that's not consistent with a water dump. But it's way too early to say if something in fact came off the orbiter. They're looking at various data to see if they can see if the shuttle shook a little bit. *** The video reports on this page are interesting. xponent Cosmic Debris Maru rob You are a fluke of the universe. You have no right to be here. And whether you can hear it or not, the universe is laughing behind your back. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: UK dossier on Iraq
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Miller, Jeffrey Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 5:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UK dossier on Iraq -Original Message- From: Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 02:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: UK dossier on Iraq Jon Gabriel wrote: By what I understand of your reasoning, the US should have waited until it was directly attacked by Germany before entering WWII Eh... as far as I know that is exactly what the US did, it minded it's own borders. They did some supplying to the Brittish before they entered but undoubtably made a neat profit in the process. Woah did America get attacked by Germany and I missed it? We were attacked by Japan. We were *NOT* attacked by Germany. We had no need or reason to fight the Germans even then. We could easily have fought a one-front war with the Japanese and left the Germans to annex Europe. According to Jeroen's reasoning, we should have never bothered fighting against the Germans until they attacked us directly, on our soil. We weren't in direct danger, after all. Why should we care if the Europeans get slaughtered? We followed isolationism for longer than it was prudent and we probably paid for it in American lives, men and money fighting a Germany that was made more powerful by the European lands it had invaded. I'll repeat myself: Europe's current attitude of 'we'll wait to fight until we're directly attacked' is foolhardy and shortsighted. Actually, IIRC (having recently read Rise Fall of the 3rd Reich) the program was run at a loss, financially speaking. Heh.. besides, trying to remain the image of neutrality when our leaders wanted us to get into the war must have demanded a certain quid pro quo to be apparent. Yup. We ran a tremendous loss, especially considering what we gave to our allies for free in order to help them fight. For a neat chronology of WWII check this site... http://no11-fighter-group-raf.com/chrono.htm I love it when people post links -- thanks! As do I. Thanks for the link. :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: More on Afghanistan
At 12:29 AM 2/9/2003 -0600, you wrote: - Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:05 AM Subject: Re: More on Afghanistan I just got the numbers on what we are spending to rebuild Afganistan: http://www.msnbc.com/news/808786.asp the State Department's Andrew Natsios, administrator of the United States Agency for International Development (USAID), chats with MSNBC.com about how the United States is providing food, money, and supplies to rebuild the new Afghanistan. Andrew Natsios: We're not untouched by it but there is sufficient security. We pledged 297 million dollars in January, the United States did, at the Afghan pledging conference in Tokyo and we spent 275 million of that. Who here thinks 300 million is enough? I expect it will take multiple billions. rob I was sorta waiting for this. On PBS or some other show they just talked about how they had to print all new currency and distribute it and destroy all the old. Maybe USA is going with the teach a man how to fish theory this time? As John said, this was a country with literally nothing. Other than their poppy fields, what do they have to sell? Even if the USA was able to plop down cement factories like they were Spice harvesters, do you really expect hospitals, school, and factories to spring up overnight? I see nothing but positive futures, but it cannot be forced. The people have to learn to do for themselves and have a realistic idea of what the future holds. The country is barren. It's like New Mexico without the heat. It's not going to become Florida. Kevin T. - VRWC Again, posting while drunk ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies
On the internet, usually. I've upgraded flash rom in modems and motherboards by downloading a utility from the internet before. Otherwise, the company will supply you with a cd-rom. Jon Crichton: Who's your daddy? C'mon, you know who your daddy is. Who's your daddy? D'Argo, tell him who his daddy is. D'Argo: *I'M* YOUR DADDY! ~Farscape~ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of G. D. Akin Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies I just had another thought (I know, note the date and time). ROM upgrades require a floppy boot disk. How will we upgrade ROM? George A - Original Message - From: J. van Baardwijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Scouted: Dell follows Apple: Eliminates Floppies At 16:04 7-2-2003 -0500, Jon Gabriel wrote: You insert it right into the USB port, and your computer reads it just like it would read a floppy drive. The benefit is, you've got much more capacity -- instead of just 1.44 megabytes, at the low end you have 16 megabytes. Unless of course you are one of those hundreds of thousands of people who still use Windows NT 4.0, which doesn't have USB support... Apple gave their users the same problem several years ago. We had several hundred (around 5 - 600) floppies in my office that had to be converted to cd. Took an intern days to copy them onto a hard drive, organize and package them for burning. (I still remember her ripping them apart and shredding them to bits when she was done. Ruined a shredder, too.) Could have cheerfully killed Apple at the time. :( But... this has happened before with 5.25 floppies, so I guess there's a precedent. This still leaves users with another problem: boot floppies. When the OS won't boot, you can still boot your computer with the OS boot floppy (or rescue disk, or whatever it's called) and try and fix the problem -- or at least backup your data before reinstalling everything. No floppy drive, no emergency boot floppies... You weren't able to get that memory stick drive working?? Yes and no. It works under Windows 2000, and if and when I'll bother to install the driver it will also work under Windows 98. However, both OS's are running on the same PC (together with NT 4), so there is little use for that memory stick. Can't use it for transferring data to other computers, either. The PC's I use at work all run NT 4. If and when I need to transfer data between my laptop and my home desktop PC, I do that over the network -- the only doable option anyway, as the desktop PC is so old that it doesn't have an USB port. Jeroen Tech Support van Baardwijk _ Wonderful-World-of-Brin-L Website: http://www.Brin-L.com LEGAL NOTICE: By replying to this message, you understand and accept that your replies (both on-list and off-list) may be published on-line and in any other form, and that I cannot and shall not be held responsible for any negative consequences (monetary and otherwise) this may have for you. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: Scouted: CNN's Brown played golf through shuttle story
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of John D. Giorgis Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 9:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Scouted: CNN's Brown played golf through shuttle story At 10:34 PM 2/5/2003 -0500 Jon Gabriel wrote: There are probably more examples. Why don't you think that all of this should be considered news? Because by 2pm it was all over and the need for continuous coverage was over.The story was not developing. a) There was continuous coverage for at least 2 days. The coverage didn't stop on cnn, msnbc or fox news at 2:pm. All major networks, including cnn covered the president's speech at 12:30pm and the nasa briefing at 4:00. Heck, days later we're still getting tons of coverage of the funerals and memorial services. b) There was no way to tell that the story was not developing at 9 or 10am Eastern when the event had just happened. When Mr. Brown made his decision, there was no conclusive evidence that the shuttle was truly gone (it wasn't confirmed by Nasa right away) and there was also no conclusive evidence that it wasn't sabotage or terrorism. None of that was confirmed until the President spoke to the nation. It was reconfirmed by Nasa at 4:00, during the continuous newschannel and network coverage. c) It's not Mr. Brown's call to tell his bosses what is or isn't important news. He's there to report it, not make the final decisions about what will and will not be covered. He's a Reporter, not an Executive Producer. There is a difference. d) Several items I mentioned were not uncovered until later, including negligence by NASA officials, budget problems, etc. Most news isn't, (and this story in particular wasn't) a matter of a static event. Like most news stories, this one developed over time. Plus, since Mr. Brown had a commitment to the organizers of the golf tournament, he could not return to CNN by a meaningful time in the development of the story, and given that CNN had a banner ratings day anyways - it seems to me that he made the right decision. The ends don't justify the means. It wasn't his call to make. It was inappropriate for him to decide that the story wasn't more newsworthy than a golf tournament. His obligations to that tournament were, quite frankly, trumped by his obligations to his job and employer. If you agreed to be in a basketball game for charity and a terrorist attacked a government flight somewhere over Texas, and you were called to the Pentagon, would you refuse? At 10am, there was no conclusive evidence that this hadn't happened on a slightly larger scale. As I said though, if Bush had announced at 9am that morning We begin bombing in five minutes :), that would be a different story. So... if we had gone to war this would have been newsworthy, but a possible act of war against us isn't? No one knew it wasn't when he made his decision. Jon ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
