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From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Jim, lacking parenting experience: As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. And it's probably not what he meant anyway. Actually, it was me who wrote that. And I *do* have 2 kids so I know exactly what he meant (although I am not a stay-at-home father). Also, as I've discussed it with him, I think I know what he meant better than you. Thanks though. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Jim Sharkey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Lee misattributed to me: As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. You're the only person I've ever encountered who thinks so. I don't remember who quoted this to you, but it wasn't me. None of my brothers-in-law even have kids. I understand that your bizarre hard-on for me makes you *want* me to engage you further, but I weasn't. In any case, I can be fairly accused of various shortcomings, but a lack of parenting experience is not among them. You know I was sort of expecting a comment that 1 to any power is still 1. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, in the original post, that poster misattributed something to Mr. Lee, something that was mine. Maybe he's just spreading the joy. Or maybe he misread jmh as Jim. I did? Ghah! I did. Sorry about that. It was your comment I was replying to, didn't mean to do that. - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Horn, John wrote: From: Julia Thompson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, in the original post, that poster misattributed something to Mr. Lee, something that was mine. Maybe he's just spreading the joy. Or maybe he misread jmh as Jim. I did? Ghah! I did. Sorry about that. It was your comment I was replying to, didn't mean to do that. - jmh You didn't do it -- someone else just quoted your quote of what I said. Then even misattributed *that*. :) Julia Not Your Fault Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Robert Seeberger wrote: Question: Is there anyone here who did not understand my use of the word trollery? Actually, I thought you were talking about the arcane art of shopping trolley manoeuvring. Regards, Ray. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Doug Pensinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 12:53 AM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives The bromadrosis from this particular sock is rather severe though, don't you think? Open that particular drawer and you're likely to pass out from the accumulated putrescence. Sure, and I think that's deliberate. This particular sock puppet's owner has mused on the usefulness of such techniques as a technique in understanding people. I am treating it as an experiment in how rational people respond to a nasty crackpot in their midst. If it were a real human, I'd probably get upset, but why get upset at a moldy piece of wool? Dan M. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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-Original Message- From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. Trollery is not an english word, and the use of such is an act of trollery. Nerd From Hell xponent Unmodified Baseline Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:06 PM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives -Original Message- From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. Trollery is not an english word, and the use of such is an act of trollery. I invite you to prove that it is beyond my ability to create a new and descriptive word that follows common English rules. G Question: Is there anyone here who did not understand my use of the word trollery? xponent Not A Static Language Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 05:58 PM 5/7/04, Robert Seeberger wrote: --===1639037804== - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 07, 2004 5:06 PM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives -Original Message- From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 4:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. Trollery is not an english word, and the use of such is an act of trollery. I invite you to prove that it is beyond my ability to create a new and descriptive word that follows common English rules. G Question: Is there anyone here who did not understand my use of the word trollery? Ding, Ding, Ding Goes The Trollery Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee misattributed to me: As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. You're the only person I've ever encountered who thinks so. I don't remember who quoted this to you, but it wasn't me. None of my brothers-in-law even have kids. I understand that your bizarre hard-on for me makes you *want* me to engage you further, but I weasn't. In any case, I can be fairly accused of various shortcomings, but a lack of parenting experience is not among them. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim Sharkey wrote: Mike Lee misattributed to me: As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. You're the only person I've ever encountered who thinks so. I don't remember who quoted this to you, but it wasn't me. None of my brothers-in-law even have kids. I understand that your bizarre hard-on for me makes you *want* me to engage you further, but I weasn't. In any case, I can be fairly accused of various shortcomings, but a lack of parenting experience is not among them. Actually, in the original post, that poster misattributed something to Mr. Lee, something that was mine. Maybe he's just spreading the joy. Or maybe he misread jmh as Jim. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim, lacking parenting experience: As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. That is so dumb. It does not. And it's probably not what he meant anyway. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dan wrote: I think that you may be making an error extrapolating from the specific to the general. Proper care of little humans requires significantly greater effort than proper care of little sock puppets. For example, you can roll a little sock puppet up and put it in the drawer for months, and take it out again when you want to play with it again, with no real harm. I wouldn't recommend that for little humans. The bromadrosis from this particular sock is rather severe though, don't you think? Open that particular drawer and you're likely to pass out from the accumulated putrescence. -- Doug GSV Stink Foot ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn, bemused: At 02:10 AM 5/5/04, Mike Lee wrote: And f$ck the World Court with Lynndie's strapon, by the way. Umm . . . -- Ronn! :) Yeah, I can see why you'd be left speechless and aroused by that. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. - jmh (* I'm sure that makes him doubly incompetent and pathetic in your eyes, right?) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 10:53 AM 5/6/04, Horn, John wrote: From: Mike Lee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) As my brother-in-law (a stay at home dad*) put it having one kid is a hobby, adding a second makes it a career. It definitely gets exponentially harder with the second one. - jmh (* I'm sure that makes him doubly incompetent and pathetic in your eyes, right?) Nah, 'cuz he's not a woman. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Julia, trying to prove that the exceptions justify the rule: Actually, if you've got infant twins they have an older sibling who's still pretty young, or if you have triplets or more, you could really use the help for the first year or so. Hire someone or see how much family and friends are willing to do to help. (I know one woman with quadruplets; her sister is practically living there to help out with the kids. And she had them before her first child's second birthday, so that's a lot of kids in a very short period of time.) Ok, you win, Julia. If someone has quadruplets, that's pretty hard. What percentage of incompetent mothers have quadruplets? Hell, we probably should give massive overdoses of fertility drugs to all women, because if we made them all have quadruplets, even the incompetent ones would raise the level of their game just to survive. You can quote all the weird statistical anomolies you want, but that doesn't change the fact that most women don't even have twins much less quadruplets, and most mothers are whining incompetents with one child at a time. (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) What great advice, you pampered princess! p.s. I'm wondering how many kids Mike Lee has, because it gets more interesting the more you have First, it only gets more interesting till about 3. Then the costs are marginal. Second, it's none of your damn business. I'm not basing my arguments on my own experience, but rather on my observation of the general incompetence of women to raise children (or do any other useful work). Third, well, I can't do a third, because I'd have to claim that not only is logic on my side but also experience. And I just don't want to do that. You're idiots. I can prove it. That settles it. Mike Lee Easter Bunny ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. Feeling very sorry makes him feel very sorry. That gives Ronn a warm fuzzy. And, probably, a Happy Ending. Ick, Ronn, ick! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Julia, expressing her contempt for women who work instead of breed for a living: been eaten alive by undergrads in 3 minutes flat. :P If you can't handle a relatively simple phone system when you're being sent out by a temp agency to be a receptionist, there's very little hope for you in the short run. If you can't corral your toddlers, you'll likely fail as a receptionist like you've failed as a mother. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 02:10 AM 5/5/04, Mike Lee wrote: Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. I'm am indeed very sorry, but the only thing or person I am very sorry for is any woman who has the misfortune to be in a relationship with such a misogynist, and for any child unfortunate to have such an [entirely appropriate insult elided so as not to offend other innocent parties who might read this] as a father, be it biological, adoptive, or step-. Trolls 'R' U Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee wrote: Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. Feeling very sorry makes him feel very sorry. That gives Ronn a warm fuzzy. And, probably, a Happy Ending. Ick, Ronn, ick! Ew, fuzzy and ick so close together Sounds like a fridge that needs cleaning out! Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee wrote: Julia, expressing her contempt for women who work instead of breed for a living: been eaten alive by undergrads in 3 minutes flat. :P If you can't handle a relatively simple phone system when you're being sent out by a temp agency to be a receptionist, there's very little hope for you in the short run. No, not women that work for a living -- women who agree to sign on for a particular job and then run in panic from it in less than 2 hours. I have nothing but admiration for the woman at the same company who worked 45 hours a week for not much more than minimum wage and did her job well and enthusiastically, even with having a somewhat abusive supervisor. (That same supervisor showed up after lunch somewhat drunk and got a little affectionate towards me, which was perhaps the scariest moment of my tenure there. Oh, and she was a woman, and usually not a huggy one. Usually.) Julia and toddlers can be corralled very easily for short periods of time using a product called Superyard :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 02:10 AM 5/5/04, Mike Lee wrote: Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. I'm am indeed very sorry, but the only thing or person I am very sorry for is any woman who has the misfortune to be in a relationship with such a misogynist, and for any child unfortunate to have such an [entirely appropriate insult elided so as not to offend other innocent parties who might read this] as a father, be it biological, adoptive, or step-. Trolls 'R' U Maru You know, whoever he is might be a generally nice guy who just needs to bloe off steam, or enjoys a good argument (and if it's the latter, we might not be doing as good a job of it as he'd like). I don't think he's a misogynist so much as someone who has no patience with certain classes of women, and hey, I myself have very little patience with certain classes of women (not necessarily the same classes, but there might be some overlap), but can avoid them a lot of the time. (And if I can't, well, there are worse things than setting down the drink I was waiting in line to pay for and walking out because I don't have any more time to wait for the little blonde ditz to get her act together to actually pay for her cigarettes and soda.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Wed, 05 May 2004 11:46:44 -0500, Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, whoever he is might be a generally nice guy who just needs to bloe off steam, or enjoys a good argument (and if it's the latter, we might not be doing as good a job of it as he'd like). I don't think he's a misogynist so much as someone who has no patience with certain classes of women, and hey, I myself have very little patience with certain classes of women (not necessarily the same classes, but there might be some overlap), but can avoid them a lot of the time. (And if I can't, well, there are worse things than setting down the drink I was waiting in line to pay for and walking out because I don't have any more time to wait for the little blonde ditz to get her act together to actually pay for her cigarettes and soda.) Julia I think you are a little too nice over some of his outrageous statements but I have been in a snarky mood lately. Gary ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Mike Lee wrote: Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. Feeling very sorry makes him feel very sorry. That gives Ronn a warm fuzzy. And, probably, a Happy Ending. Ick, Ronn, ick! Ew, fuzzy and ick so close together Sounds like a fridge that needs cleaning out! Or like a sick aquarium. xponent Cichlids Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:46 AM 5/5/04, Julia Thompson wrote: You know, whoever he is might be a generally nice guy who just needs to bloe off steam, At 02:10 AM 5/5/04, Mike Lee wrote: And f$ck the World Court with Lynndie's strapon, by the way. Umm . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2004 10:56 AM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Mike Lee wrote: Ronn insults my offspring: I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . Ronn is very sorry. Feeling very sorry makes him feel very sorry. That gives Ronn a warm fuzzy. And, probably, a Happy Ending. Ick, Ronn, ick! Ew, fuzzy and ick so close together Sounds like a fridge that needs cleaning out! Or like a sick aquarium. Not having had firsthand experience with an aquarium, I can't comment to that. I have a fair amount of experience with refrigerators, though. (I think the worst was when I was away from college for a couple of weeks because my father was dying, then died, and my roommate unplugged the fridge at some point without any regard for the contents.) Julia or was it the cream cheese that had been open for about 25 days when I peeked into the package? (Not my fridge) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2004 12:44 AM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives But that's neither here nor there, since my comments were not based on my own experience but on my observation of all the lazy, whining, incompetent, neurotic housewives I've observed over the years. Really, you could train a chimp to do a better job than most stay-at-home-moms. I think that you may be making an error extrapolating from the specific to the general. Proper care of little humans requires significantly greater effort than proper care of little sock puppets. For example, you can roll a little sock puppet up and put it in the drawer for months, and take it out again when you want to play with it again, with no real harm. I wouldn't recommend that for little humans. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim, declaring victory since it's the only way he ever gets one: It's been fun watching you utilize every corny, cliched Internet argument tactic ever invented in such a short time, Mike. I look forward to more entertainment in the future! Don't worry, Jim, you'll be entertained. Not enlightened, since Christ on the cross couldn't make you think a new thought, but you'll laugh, even if you still don't know why. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee wrote: Really, get a nanny if you're so damn tired, because you're not very good at being a mom, and obviously you need professional help. Actually, if you've got infant twins they have an older sibling who's still pretty young, or if you have triplets or more, you could really use the help for the first year or so. Hire someone or see how much family and friends are willing to do to help. (I know one woman with quadruplets; her sister is practically living there to help out with the kids. And she had them before her first child's second birthday, so that's a lot of kids in a very short period of time.) If it's just one kid, then after the first year or so, it's not that bad. If it's twins, that can get a little rough. I've talked to a number of mothers who had twins and then later had just one, and after you've dealt with twins, handling a single infant is a breeze by comparison. (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) Julia p.s. I'm wondering how many kids Mike Lee has, because it gets more interesting the more you have ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 04:38 PM 5/4/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Mike Lee wrote: Really, get a nanny if you're so damn tired, because you're not very good at being a mom, and obviously you need professional help. Actually, if you've got infant twins they have an older sibling who's still pretty young, or if you have triplets or more, you could really use the help for the first year or so. Hire someone or see how much family and friends are willing to do to help. (I know one woman with quadruplets; her sister is practically living there to help out with the kids. And she had them before her first child's second birthday, so that's a lot of kids in a very short period of time.) If it's just one kid, then after the first year or so, it's not that bad. If it's twins, that can get a little rough. I've talked to a number of mothers who had twins and then later had just one, and after you've dealt with twins, handling a single infant is a breeze by comparison. (And if you're working and you have twins or more, it's more cost-effective to hire a nanny than to put them all in daycare, at least for the first couple of years.) Julia p.s. I'm wondering how many kids Mike Lee has, because it gets more interesting the more you have I sincerely \*hope*\ that the answer is zero, and also that he is single, otherwise I feel very sorry for some poor unfortunate woman and some innocent children . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Gary Denton is wondering: As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Is this supposed to be satire? If I've said anything to offend you, let me apologize in advance, because I seldom apologize post facto. Welcome to the group! I hope this question was satire, and you're not going to immediately join the Dreary and Humorless Brigade that seems to think they should be in charge of everything except the Middle East. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dim Jim, happy in his role as not-so-primary-caretaker of his progeny: Not incompetent at all, Mike. Just don't want to do the job 24/7. Quite happy in my role, thanks. Why wouldn't you want to raise your kids if you could? Why do you think your wife is any happier doing what you consider shitwork than you would be if your positions were reversed? Don't let your rampant personality defects make you a hater, Mike. Don't worry. I won't. When you're around as much smugly self-satisfied liberal stupidity as I've been around lately reading this list, it is a danger, I realize. Think of me more as a pitcher, not an underwear stitcher. Mike Lee Islamic Moderate ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee wrote: Any woman who is whining about how busy she is who is a full time mother of a developmentally normal child (or children) is an incompetent and/or neurotic attention whore running a racket, hoping nobody will resent her for how easy her life is. *lol* You have never raised children, have you, Mike? It is one of the most tiring job in the world and it doesn't matter how competent you are, you still need to be 'on-the-job' 24/7. If taking care of children 24/7 doesn't tire you out, then you are not raising them properly. Or they are old enough to be out to school/in the playground for long hours at a stretch. Ritu ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Mike Lee wrote: what you consider shitwork It's been fun watching you utilize every corny, cliched Internet argument tactic ever invented in such a short time, Mike. I look forward to more entertainment in the future! Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 11:20 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? Exactly what trolls do. With a troll, you have a number of options. One of those is choosing to be amused. I'm trying to go with that one as much as possible this week. :) (Ignoring is another, getting one's panties in a wad is yet another.) And, if trolls really are Neanderthals, and Neanderthals really do live fast, die young, and leave good-looking cave paintings, then at least you can look forward to the day you will finally be rid of the troll . . . That receptionist comment is rankling a bit, though, due to the ludicrous incompetency I've heard about in a number of receptionists. (And had to deal with personally in a rather stressful situation.) Though to be fair to the other side, anyone in academia knows who really runs the department and who to go to when one has any problems or needs anything done. And any of the receptionists I'm thinking about would have been eaten alive by undergrads in 3 minutes flat. :P If you can't handle a relatively simple phone system when you're being sent out by a temp agency to be a receptionist, there's very little hope for you in the short run. Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ritu, laughing out loud: *lol* You have never raised children, have you, Mike? Well, I think I have; my poor child may have a different opinion. But that's neither here nor there, since my comments were not based on my own experience but on my observation of all the lazy, whining, incompetent, neurotic housewives I've observed over the years. Really, you could train a chimp to do a better job than most stay-at-home-moms. It is one of the most tiring job in the world No, it's not. It's really not. If taking care of children 24/7 doesn't tire you out, then you are not raising them properly. Exhaustion is the last refuge of the incompetent mother. Really, get a nanny if you're so damn tired, because you're not very good at being a mom, and obviously you need professional help. Mike Lee Feminist Moderate ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Doug Pensinger wrote: sock puppet- An account made on an internet message board, by a person who already has an account, for the purpose of posting more- or-less anonymously. I've heard them called smurfs most of the time. Does that make the original poster Gargamel? :-) Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 11:20 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? Exactly what trolls do. With a troll, you have a number of options. One of those is choosing to be amused. I'm trying to go with that one as much as possible this week. :) (Ignoring is another, getting one's panties in a wad is yet another.) And, if trolls really are Neanderthals, and Neanderthals really do live fast, die young, and leave good-looking cave paintings, then at least you can look forward to the day you will finally be rid of the troll . . . That receptionist comment is rankling a bit, though, due to the ludicrous incompetency I've heard about in a number of receptionists. (And had to deal with personally in a rather stressful situation.) Though to be fair to the other side, anyone in academia knows who really runs the department and who to go to when one has any problems or needs anything done. (Hint: it *ain't* the department chair, who is generally just another faculty member who was unlucky enough to get stuck with all those pesky extra duties, meetings, and paperwork for a term of several years. Last time I specifically needed the chair, I had to spend the better part of an hour first calling various people to find _someone_ who had some idea exactly where the meeting he was supposed to be in was being held, then going over to that building and interrupting his meeting, which left me about ten minutes before class started to do all the other things I had to do to set up for class that I had planned to do with that hour . . . ) (And, yes, I realize that in many business situations the receptionist is a different person from the secretary, with different duties and probably different skills, while in academia if you're lucky enough to have a separate person with receptionist duties, that person is probably a part-time student worker who is primarily doing that to help pay for school rather than a full-time employee . . . ) -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:57:45 -0500 As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Always. Is this supposed to be satire? Good question. Is it supposed to be? Hmmm...I'd say yes. As a side note, it most certainly IS satire. As a second side note, welcome to the list! And as a third, allow me to say that top posting is generally frowned upon here. Not that I personally care all that much, but some people will get snotty. This one time I top posted... -Travis ...hope you don't use AOL Edmunds _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:14:18 -0500 Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. Ha! Is that your own quote Ronn!? If so I'd like to quote you. If not, could you tell me who's it is? -Travis _ MSN Premium: Up to 11 personalized e-mail addresses and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 08:06 AM 4/30/04, Travis Edmunds wrote: From: Ronn!Blankenship [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 19:14:18 -0500 Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. Ha! Is that your own quote Ronn!? If so I'd like to quote you. If not, could you tell me who's it is? I've seen it in MAD Magazine, but I doubt it was original there, either. Bathroom Humor Is A Kohler Just Doesn't Have The Same Ring Maru -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Dave Land [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:50:56 -0700 his posts bespeak a hatred that goes right to the core. Funny post Dave! thumbs up But you people just don't seem to get it; using your above wording as evidence of course. The man is not consumed with a hatred that penetrates to the proverbial core. No, not at all! He is however consumed with himself (this goes beyond survival instincts) and puts great care into presenting us with the Mike Lee mask. And as for Jim taking the bait...well look around Dave. He's not the only one. In fact, you did just that (took the bait that is) with your post here. *And I'm not so sure that you're even aware of it.* You see, whenever you reply to Mike in a way that includes cliched speech full of collectively agreed upon definitions of collectively agreed upon words, which form collectively agreed upon phrases then you 'take the bait'. For that is where Mike thrives! He can superbly manipulate that type of speech, and to put icing on the cake, he makes it funny! So 'what do I do' you might ask? Well, play dirty. Don't use cliche's, don't use collectively agreed upon definitions (debate those definitions!) or collectively agreed upon words (don't recognize those words!). Mike is like Neo, and the cliched, 'witty entertainment writer' type of speech that he thrives in is the Matrix. So take it to him outside the Matrix. Just some friendly advice Dave. Hell, it worked for me. *Forgive me my arrogant, presumptuous, and slightly offensive manner.* -Travis _ Free yourself from those irritating pop-up ads with MSn Premium. Get 2months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 11:20 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? Exactly what trolls do. With a troll, you have a number of options. One of those is choosing to be amused. I'm trying to go with that one as much as possible this week. :) (Ignoring is another, getting one's panties in a wad is yet another.) That receptionist comment is rankling a bit, though, due to the ludicrous incompetency I've heard about in a number of receptionists. (And had to deal with personally in a rather stressful situation.) Julia You know, I've never understood the motavation of sock puppet trolling. Especially when one is trolling virtually the entire community one is a member of...including oneself. One thing this is apparent, however. Mike Lee is tacitly expressing admiration for American Patriot. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dan Minette wrote: You know, I've never understood the motavation of sock puppet trolling. Especially when one is trolling virtually the entire community one is a member of...including oneself. What makes you think he's a sock puppet, anyway? Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Can someone explain what exactly a sock puppet is anyway, for those of us not as net savvy? Damon. = Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] Qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum. http://www.geocities.com/garrand.geo/index.html Now Building: __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Can someone explain what exactly a sock puppet is anyway, for those of us not as net savvy? A sock puppet is a false name that is used by a poster, usually for an attack on another poster. Sock puppet attacks involve one or more false names being used to attack a fellow poster. When executed perfectly, it makes it look as though a number of people are opposed to a particular poster. Sock puppet is a descriptive compound name for this. The sock puppet is held by the real person, but it is not a person on its own, it is just a bad attempt at being one. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dan wrote: - Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Can someone explain what exactly a sock puppet is anyway, for those of us not as net savvy? A sock puppet is a false name that is used by a poster, usually for an attack on another poster. Sock puppet attacks involve one or more false names being used to attack a fellow poster. When executed perfectly, it makes it look as though a number of people are opposed to a particular poster. Sock puppet is a descriptive compound name for this. The sock puppet is held by the real person, but it is not a person on its own, it is just a bad attempt at being one. or from the jargon dictionary (http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/s/sock_puppet.html) sock puppet n. [Usenet: from the act of placing a sock over your hand and talking to it and pretending it's talking back] In Usenet parlance, a pseudo through which the puppeteer posts follow-ups to their own original message to give the appearance that a number of people support the views held in the original message. or in the urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sock+puppetf=1 sock puppet- An account made on an internet message board, by a person who already has an account, for the purpose of posting more-or-less anonymously. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Doug Pensinger wrote: Dan wrote: - Original Message - From: Damon Agretto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2004 2:58 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Can someone explain what exactly a sock puppet is anyway, for those of us not as net savvy? A sock puppet is a false name that is used by a poster, usually for an attack on another poster. Sock puppet attacks involve one or more false names being used to attack a fellow poster. When executed perfectly, it makes it look as though a number of people are opposed to a particular poster. Sock puppet is a descriptive compound name for this. The sock puppet is held by the real person, but it is not a person on its own, it is just a bad attempt at being one. or from the jargon dictionary (http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/s/sock_puppet.html) sock puppet n. [Usenet: from the act of placing a sock over your hand and talking to it and pretending it's talking back] In Usenet parlance, a pseudo through which the puppeteer posts follow-ups to their own original message to give the appearance that a number of people support the views held in the original message. or in the urban dictionary: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=sock+puppetf=1 sock puppet- An account made on an internet message board, by a person who already has an account, for the purpose of posting more-or-less anonymously. I'm on a couple of mailing lists where someone has set up a Yahoo account and posted the password to the lists. Anyone can post anonymously using that, if they want. Or, if they're in a situation where they don't have access to any other subscribed address (only subscribers can post) and they need to get a message to the list, they can use it. The only thing is, at the end of each message, there's a .sig: This is an account for cowards afraid to take personal responsibility for their actions. So anything posted with that address is automatically discounted, unless the poster using that address identifies themselves in the post (which I've seen happen twice, both due to the user not having internet access through their regular computer for whatever reason). What's really fun is when someone starts flaming posts from that address Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim, lobbying less than competently for father of the year: Gosh, Mike, how many kids have you raised? 'Cause we all know how darn easy that one is. I frankly can't imagine doing the job my wife does. I far prefer having my real job. I'm so tired of the fawning faux incompetence expressed by so many men when it comes to domestic responsibilities. If you can't imagine raising kids competently, then you shouldn't have had them. Saying things like the above is the sure sign of the sexist jackass who has no real intention of accepting full responsibility for his sperm donees. Now that you do have kids, quit pretending that it's so hard to handle the job, buckle down and learn how to do it right. None of this takes away from my earlier point that most stay-at-home moms are marginally competent at best. Part of the reason they suck so bad at their jobs is that they aren't held to real standards of performance and outcome. And how could we expect them to be held accountable by their husbands? We all know what happens to accountability when a woman is sleeping with the boss So, I may not be able to hold my wife accountable, and you may not be able to hold your wife accountable, but we can at least do a little Throw Momma From the Train service for each other by helping to kill the self-congratulatory female meme that full time moms work harder than anyone else and are doing a great job. Your average receptionist deals with more stress, interruptions and infantile behavior than the average mother of three, and she does it a lot better too. And she's probably easier to talk into bed. Mike Lee Islamic Moderate ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Is this supposed to be satire? On Thu, 29 Apr 2004 11:09:27 -0700, Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim, lobbying less than competently for father of the year: Gosh, Mike, how many kids have you raised? 'Cause we all know how darn easy that one is. I frankly can't imagine doing the job my wife does. I far prefer having my real job. I'm so tired of the fawning faux incompetence expressed by so many men when it comes to domestic responsibilities. If you can't imagine raising kids competently, then you shouldn't have had them. Saying things like the above is the sure sign of the sexist jackass who has no real intention of accepting full responsibility for his sperm donees. Now that you do have kids, quit pretending that it's so hard to handle the job, buckle down and learn how to do it right. None of this takes away from my earlier point that most stay-at-home moms are marginally competent at best. Part of the reason they suck so bad at their jobs is that they aren't held to real standards of performance and outcome. And how could we expect them to be held accountable by their husbands? We all know what happens to accountability when a woman is sleeping with the boss So, I may not be able to hold my wife accountable, and you may not be able to hold your wife accountable, but we can at least do a little Throw Momma From the Train service for each other by helping to kill the self-congratulatory female meme that full time moms work harder than anyone else and are doing a great job. Your average receptionist deals with more stress, interruptions and infantile behavior than the average mother of three, and she does it a lot better too. And she's probably easier to talk into bed. Mike Lee Islamic Moderate ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. xponent Unmodified Baseline Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. Its also worth noting Mike Lee is a sock puppet. Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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-- From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Is this supposed to be satire? --- Troll. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:18 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 6:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives - Original Message - From: Gary Denton [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 2:57 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives As a new member can I ask if he is always like this? Every single post. Is this supposed to be satire? More like trollery. Its also worth noting Mike Lee is a sock puppet. It's good to see the terminology isn't lost on everyone. xponent Like Bush Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 04:18 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Mike Lee wrote: So, I may not be able to hold my wife accountable, and you may not be able to hold your wife accountable, but we can at least do a little Throw Momma From the Train service for each other by helping to kill the self-congratulatory female meme that full time moms work harder than anyone else and are doing a great job. Your average receptionist deals with more stress, interruptions and infantile behavior than the average mother of three, and she does it a lot better too. I think the worst part of it is, there's no break. You leave the receptionist job at the end of the day, and even if you're having to deal with crap outside of the job, at least it's *different* crap. And the receptionist's job seldom involves dealing with *actual* crap . . . not to mention other less than attractive or sanitary bodily effluvia on an almost continuous basis for at least the first couple of years . . . --Ronn! :) Bathroom humor is an American-Standard. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Jim Sharkey took Mike Lee's bait, concluding with: Don't let your rampant personality defects make you a hater, Mike. I don't think there's any danger of that in our beloved Sock Puppet's case -- his posts bespeak a hatred that goes right to the core. I'm guessing that when he was a kid with a magnifier, the ants in the backyard ran for cover. Dave Amateur Psychoanalysis Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 7:34 PM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives Mike Lee wrote: So, I may not be able to hold my wife accountable, and you may not be able to hold your wife accountable, but we can at least do a little Throw Momma From the Train service for each other by helping to kill the self-congratulatory female meme that full time moms work harder than anyone else and are doing a great job. Not harder than anyone else, and I know plenty of moms that frankly *aren't* up to the job. But I know for my wife it's not all bon-bons and soap operas regardless of your prior assertion. Yo Jim! It's funny. The last guy I saw play the bon-bon card was a guy who was in court ordered counseling for beating the crap out of his wife. Speaking for myself, I see a connection. G And she's probably easier to talk into bed. Don't let your rampant personality defects make you a hater, Mike. As opposed to an obvious misogynist? xponent With Jim Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 04:18 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: Mike Lee wrote: So, I may not be able to hold my wife accountable, and you may not be able to hold your wife accountable, but we can at least do a little Throw Momma From the Train service for each other by helping to kill the self-congratulatory female meme that full time moms work harder than anyone else and are doing a great job. Your average receptionist deals with more stress, interruptions and infantile behavior than the average mother of three, and she does it a lot better too. I think the worst part of it is, there's no break. You leave the receptionist job at the end of the day, and even if you're having to deal with crap outside of the job, at least it's *different* crap. And the receptionist's job seldom involves dealing with *actual* crap . . . not to mention other less than attractive or sanitary bodily effluvia on an almost continuous basis for at least the first couple of years . . . Oh, yeah, and most receptionists are not required by their job description to clean the carpet on a regular basis. (I am *so* glad I put my foot down on not having carpeting in certain rooms Just wishing I had on a couple of others, as well, but hey, we can replace the carpet in a few years, right?) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dave Land wrote: Jim Sharkey took Mike Lee's bait, concluding with: Don't let your rampant personality defects make you a hater, Mike. I don't think there's any danger of that in our beloved Sock Puppet's case -- his posts bespeak a hatred that goes right to the core. I'm guessing that when he was a kid with a magnifier, the ants in the backyard ran for cover. Given what the ants around here do if you get too close to their home (usually on your own darn lawn, at that), I think that burning with a magnifying glass isn't harsh enough. But I'd much rather give my kid a magnifying glass than let him spread the ant poison on the any of the 150 antmounds we have on the property. (And no, I'm not really exaggerating. It's 2 acres' worth of yard.) Julia and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? Exactly what trolls do. xponent Eel Kime Maru rob ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Robert Seeberger wrote: - Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 29, 2004 10:42 PM Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives and how do you know he's not just playing with your head, anyway? Exactly what trolls do. With a troll, you have a number of options. One of those is choosing to be amused. I'm trying to go with that one as much as possible this week. :) (Ignoring is another, getting one's panties in a wad is yet another.) That receptionist comment is rankling a bit, though, due to the ludicrous incompetency I've heard about in a number of receptionists. (And had to deal with personally in a rather stressful situation.) Julia ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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At 10:42 PM 4/29/04, Julia Thompson wrote: But I'd much rather give my kid a magnifying glass than let him spread the ant poison on the any of the 150 antmounds we have on the property. If you do that (I am not making a recommendation here), just be sure it is a genuine magnifying _glass_, as many of the plastic ones I have experimented with¹ appear to not pass enough IR to get something¹ at the focal point hot enough to burn. Of course, this introduces safety issues of its own, such as what may happen if he drops it on a hard surface and it shatters . . . _ ¹FWIW, my experiments generally involved materials such as paper or dry leaves . . . -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On Tue, Apr 27, 2004 at 09:41:52PM -0700, Doug Pensinger wrote: I thought Erik hinted that he and John Doe were the same person early on, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Ambiguous grammar -- I don't know what you think is not the case. But I do know that I made no such suggestion. Quite the contrary. -- Erik Reuter http://www.erikreuter.net/ ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Tom Tom the Brin List Mom: Why is anyone even bothering to respond to this guy? It's clear to me he's just trolling, flapping his gums, saying outrageous stuff to try to provoke a response. So why give him the satisfaction of being provoked? You go right ahead and get the rest of those little cowpokes in line, lil pony! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Ronn, pulling this thumb out of his own pie, and saying what a good boy am I!: You've never been married, have you? Ooh, good shot! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Dan M, continuing his streak of stupid, pretentious questions asked me: How many oil rigs have you been on? None. Do you have a point? Or are you trying to sell your latest Girls of the Oil Rig calendar? ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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The Fool, repetitiously: You aren't very bright are you. You keep saying that to me. Maybe you're hoping I'll get it through my thick head or something. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Doug, a paragon of logic again: Geeze, Julia, raising kids wouldnt be meaningfull work now, would it? It's not all that meaningful, no. That's why it pays so well, and why most people doing it are incompetent, but don't get fired. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Doug says another thing that his mom should put up on the fridge just to help his self-esteem: As far as winning though, I would think that unless he's convinced anyone that all poor people deserve their fate or that we can solve our problems by nuking them or that women are worthless, or that corporations are inherently honest, or that Bush gets it, I think he's got a ways to go yet. You're right. I do have a ways to go. About 3 more inches. I think if I push a knitting needle about that far behind my eyeball and stir, I might someday soon after that be able to match your effortless eloquence. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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- Original Message - From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2004 6:07 AM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives How many oil rigs have you been on? None. Do you have a point? Or are you trying to sell your latest Girls of the Oil Rig calendar? I was just kinda wondering why you chose oilfield trash for your example of real hard working guys. :-) Dan M. Its _Dr._ Oilfield Trash to you Sir.: Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Julia wrote: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... And the other 38% is working, just not for a paycheck. Julia Every Mother Is A Working Mother Maru Geeze, Julia, raising kids wouldnt be meaningfull work now, would it? Just send them to a sweat shop as soon as their able to toddle their way around and they'll be OK. Damned child labor laws are way too restrictive anyway. Old enough to drool, old enough to tool, that's what I always say. That would free you up to perform some male worshiping duty which you should have been doing anyway. Sheesh. I guess some people are more like the ones they profess to hate than they would care to admit. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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On 27 Apr 2004, at 2:10 am, Ronn!Blankenship wrote: At 07:01 PM 4/26/04, William T Goodall wrote: That was a big march apparently. Was there supposed to be a link to a news story about it or something? If so, it didn't come through. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/national/AP-Womens-March.html http://www.feminist.org/ -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ Our products just aren't engineered for security. - Brian Valentine, senior vice president in charge of Microsoft's Windows development team. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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From: Alberto Monteiro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs Discussion [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: March for Women's Lives Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 00:48:58 + Is it the biggest? Just a little over 1 million? I would imagine that other moments had more than 1 megapeople gathered together. Or is it the biggest march for a political movement? I think it was the biggest march ever, in the month after March! -Travis _ MSN Premium helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?pgmarket=en-capage=byoa/premxAPID=1994DI=1034SU=http://hotmail.com/encaHL=Market_MSNIS_Taglines ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: March for Women's Lives
Julia, sharing a hoary old feminist conceit: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... And the other 38% is working, just not for a paycheck. They don't work very hard. And if they do, it's because they're neurotic or incompetent. Face it--women don't work near as hard as men, in this culture or any other culture. I'm so tired of the whining about how baking bread and eating bonbon's is just as valuable as manning an oil rig. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: March for Women's Lives
The Fool, amusing me today: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... Any other group that had a 38% unemployment rate would be considered a social disaster. So what you're saying, is 4 out of 10 women don't even have jobs, which dovetails with my point pretty well, don't you think? Of course, you don't. I'll add the point that the majority of women who do work are overpaid and underemployed because, compared to men, they're lazy, not career-minded, and refuse to do the hard jobs. But of course in Stupid Troll's world working people don't matter. And neither do women, or poor people, or anyone who isn't a rich white English speaker or a corporation. Of course, working people matter. They just don't matter *as much.* Mike Lee Islamic Moderate ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
- Original Message - From: Mike Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Killer Bs Discussion' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: RE: March for Women's Lives Julia, sharing a hoary old feminist conceit: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... And the other 38% is working, just not for a paycheck. They don't work very hard. And if they do, it's because they're neurotic or incompetent. Face it--women don't work near as hard as men, in this culture or any other culture. I'm so tired of the whining about how baking bread and eating bonbon's is just as valuable as manning an oil rig. How many oil rigs have you been on? Dan M. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
From: Stupid Troll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Z Fool, amusing me today: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... Any other group that had a 38% unemployment rate would be considered a social disaster. So what you're saying, is 4 out of 10 women don't even have jobs, which dovetails with my point pretty well, don't you think? Of course, you don't. You aren't very bright are you. Here's a Nice Graph, courtesy of Brad Delong, that shows the Employment to population ratio: http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/images2/Emp_Pop.gif I'll add the point that the majority of women who do work are overpaid and underemployed because, compared to men, they're lazy, not career-minded, and refuse to do the hard jobs. Perhaps you should read a book or a newspaper sometime. It won't help with your stupidity problem, but then perhaps you can pretend you know how to read. But of course in Stupid Troll's world working people don't matter. And neither do women, or poor people, or anyone who isn't a rich white English speaker or a corporation. Of course, working people matter. They just don't matter *as much.* You are not smart enough to become rich on your own, so you must think ~you~ just don't matter as much as those rich people you bow down to... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: March for Women's Lives
At 05:08 PM 4/27/04, Mike Lee wrote: Julia, sharing a hoary old feminist conceit: I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... And the other 38% is working, just not for a paycheck. They don't work very hard. And if they do, it's because they're neurotic or incompetent. You've never been married, have you? -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: March for Women's Lives
Mike Lee wrote: They don't work very hard. And if they do, it's because they're neurotic or incompetent. Gosh, Mike, how many kids have you raised? 'Cause we all know how darn easy that one is. I frankly can't imagine doing the job my wife does. I far prefer having my real job. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
Mike Lee wrote: They don't work very hard. And if they do, it's because they're neurotic or incompetent. Gosh, Mike, how many kids have you raised? 'Cause we all know how darn easy that one is. I frankly can't imagine doing the job my wife does. I far prefer having my real job. Why is anyone even bothering to respond to this guy? It's clear to me he's just trolling, flapping his gums, saying outrageous stuff to try to provoke a response. So why give him the satisfaction of being provoked? (Or, if he really means it, then he deserves to be ignored anyway for being an offensive, ignorant, mean-spirited butthead.) Either way, let's wrap this up, please? -- Tom Beck my LiveJournal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/tomfodw/ New York (Football) Giants: http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Go_Big_Blue/ _The Universal Baseball Association, J. Henry Waugh, Prop._ Fan Club: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/j_henry_waugh/ I always knew I'd see the first man on the Moon. I never thought I'd see the last. - Dr. Jerry Pournelle -- ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
Thomas Beck wrote: Why is anyone even bothering to respond to this guy? Well, I did because I've been generally deleting most of my e-mails due to time pressures at home and work. I was unaware of trolling because I haven't been eating the latest bowl of list Drama Flakes. :) But I'll take a better look now. Jim ___ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
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Kneem wrote: You aren't very bright are you. Actually, I'm leaning toward the caricature theory after his most recent posts. I'm very curious as to who he really is. I thought Erik hinted that he and John Doe were the same person early on, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. Whoever he is, he seems to be enjoying himself immensely. As far as winning though, I would think that unless he's convinced anyone that all poor people deserve their fate or that we can solve our problems by nuking them or that women are worthless, or that corporations are inherently honest, or that Bush gets it, I think he's got a ways to go yet. -- Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
RE: March for Women's Lives
Well, when you appeal to a constituency that doesn't do a lot of meaningful work, you can get a lot of them to show up in the middle of the day for a march. Mike Lee Islamic Moderate -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of William T Goodall Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 5:02 PM To: Brin-L Subject: March for Women's Lives That was a big march apparently. -- William T Goodall Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web : http://www.wtgab.demon.co.uk Blog : http://radio.weblogs.com/0111221/ One of the main causes of the fall of the Roman Empire was that, lacking zero, they had no way to indicate successful termination of their C programs. -- Robert Firth ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
From: Stupid Troll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, when you appeal to a constituency that doesn't do a lot of meaningful work, you can get a lot of them to show up in the middle of the day for a march. --- The Biggest March in American history. 1,150,000+ I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... But of course in Stupid Troll's world working people don't matter. And neither do women, or poor people, or anyone who isn't a rich white English speaker or a corporation. - I can't imagine that I'm going to be attacked for telling the truth. Why would I be attacked for telling the truth? Paul O'Neill, 60 Minutes ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
At 07:01 PM 4/26/04, William T Goodall wrote: That was a big march apparently. Was there supposed to be a link to a news story about it or something? If so, it didn't come through. -- Ronn! :) ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
Re: March for Women's Lives
The Fool wrote: From: Stupid Troll [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, when you appeal to a constituency that doesn't do a lot of meaningful work, you can get a lot of them to show up in the middle of the day for a march. --- The Biggest March in American history. 1,150,000+ I'd be willing to bet that they statistically match the working women's population--which is something like 62% employed... And the other 38% is working, just not for a paycheck. Julia Every Mother Is A Working Mother Maru ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
