Re: Communication between two flash forms

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

There is the LocalConnection class in Flash which allows communication
between movies:

http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_16243

But...I don't know if you're able to use this in CF's Flash forms as many
things are disabled.

chris


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On 4/15/05 2:12 AM, Nath Arduini [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can one flash form affect another flash form?
 
 For example... fill one flash form textfield and display the value (with
 bind, I guess) in a different flash form textfield.
 
 I guess I need to use an ActionScript path that would be something like in
 Javascript,
 a thing like window.document.form2.field2.text =
 window.document.form1.field1.text
 (But of course I know this one doesn't work)
 
 
 

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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Should have sent a link to the readme as well...

http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flash_remoting/mx2004/rea
dme_source.html

ck

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On 4/15/05 8:00 AM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So Chris...where do these source files go? ;-)
 
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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Sweet!

Yeah its just supposed to trace to the output window. To put it on the
screen, just create a dynamic textfield on the stage, give it a name of
myTextfield, and then change:

onResult = function(event)
{
trace(event.result);
}

To...

onResult = function(event)
{
myTextfield.text = event.result;
}

ck

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On 4/15/05 8:41 AM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Success!!! ;-)
 
 the output just shows in the output window and not in the movieand now
 that I look at the code, that appears to be what it's supposed to do (I
 thought it would drop Hello on the screen)??
 
 but the important thing is..IT WORKS!! ;-)
 
 Thanks again for all the help (oh for decent instructions...hehe)
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Brian,

Since you're using the AS2 classes, you no longer #include NetServices.
There is a whole new approach.


I'll send a simple example in a minute...

chris


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On 4/14/05 1:18 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 NetServices.as: File not found. is the error
 
 var server = 
 NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway;);
 Is probably the line that needs to be fixed up??
 
 I haven't touched remoting in over a yearI know this is where I had
 trouble before.
 
 I've got Flash MX 2004 Pro installed with ActionScript 2.0 Flash Remoting
 Components and the UI component set 2.
 
 I'm trying to fire up the Noteboard tutorial from MMs site.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
 

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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Simple hello world example. Create a new fla, stick this on frame 1:

import mx.remoting.*;
import mx.remoting.debug.*;
import mx.rpc.*;
import mx.services.*;

responder = new RelayResponder(this, onResult, onFault);
service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1:8100/flashservices/gateway/;, null,
helloWorld, null, responder);
service.sayHello();

onResult = function(event:ResultEvent)
{
trace(event.result);
}

onFault = function(event:FaultEvent)
{
trace(FAULT CODE:  + fault.fault.faultcode);
trace(FAULT STRING:  + fault.fault.faultstring);
trace(DESCRIPTION:  + fault.fault.description);
trace(TYPE:  + fault.fault.type);
trace(DETAIL:  + fault.fault.detail);
}

Make sure to change the gateway URL to your setup. Here's the CFC:

cfcomponent
cffunction name=sayHello access=remote returntype=string
cfreturn hello
/cffunction
/cfcomponent

chris


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On 4/14/05 1:35 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That would be great Chrisdamn MM should update their sample apps...or at
 least warn ya!! ;-)
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Brian,
 
 Since you're using the AS2 classes, you no longer #include NetServices.
 There is a whole new approach.
 
 
 I'll send a simple example in a minute...
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:18 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 NetServices.as: File not found. is the error
 
 var server =
 NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway;
 );
 Is probably the line that needs to be fixed up??
 
 I haven't touched remoting in over a yearI know this is where I had
 trouble before.
 
 I've got Flash MX 2004 Pro installed with ActionScript 2.0 Flash Remoting
 Components and the UI component set 2.
 
 I'm trying to fire up the Noteboard tutorial from MMs site.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Also, if you need the NetConnection Debugger to work, add this:

mx.remoting.debug.NetDebug.initialize();

chris


On 4/14/05 1:35 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That would be great Chrisdamn MM should update their sample apps...or at
 least warn ya!! ;-)
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Brian,
 
 Since you're using the AS2 classes, you no longer #include NetServices.
 There is a whole new approach.
 
 
 I'll send a simple example in a minute...
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:18 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 NetServices.as: File not found. is the error
 
 var server =
 NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway;
 );
 Is probably the line that needs to be fixed up??
 
 I haven't touched remoting in over a yearI know this is where I had
 trouble before.
 
 I've got Flash MX 2004 Pro installed with ActionScript 2.0 Flash Remoting
 Components and the UI component set 2.
 
 I'm trying to fire up the Noteboard tutorial from MMs site.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

My bad on those. To get rid of the errors, change the 2 methods to this:

onResult = function(event)
{
trace(event.result);
}

onFault = function(event)
{
trace(FAULT CODE:  + event.fault.faultcode);
trace(FAULT STRING:  + event.fault.faultstring);
trace(DESCRIPTION:  + event.fault.description);
trace(TYPE:  + event.fault.type);
trace(DETAIL:  + event.fault.detail);
}

As for the gateway, what URL do you preview your CF pages at?

chris



On 4/14/05 1:58 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Thanks Chrishere's the error:
 
 **Error** Scene=Scene 1, layer=Layer 1, frame=1:Line 13: The class
 'ResultEvent' could not be loaded.
  onResult = function(event:ResultEvent)
 
 **Error** Scene=Scene 1, layer=Layer 1, frame=1:Line 18: The class
 'FaultEvent' could not be loaded.
  onFault = function(event:FaultEvent)
 
 I'm just not sure what my gateway URL should be
 
 What I do know:
 1) CFMX 7 on JRun
 2) running this on localhost
 3) CFIDE etc. is in D:\web
 4) Jrun4 is in D:\Jrun4
 
 So my webroot is in D:\web
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Simple hello world example. Create a new fla, stick this on frame 1:
 
 import mx.remoting.*;
 import mx.remoting.debug.*;
 import mx.rpc.*;
 import mx.services.*;
 
 responder = new RelayResponder(this, onResult, onFault);
 service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1:8100/flashservices/gateway/;,
 null,
 helloWorld, null, responder);
 service.sayHello();
 
 onResult = function(event:ResultEvent)
 {
trace(event.result);
 }
 
 onFault = function(event:FaultEvent)
 {
trace(FAULT CODE:  + fault.fault.faultcode);
trace(FAULT STRING:  + fault.fault.faultstring);
trace(DESCRIPTION:  + fault.fault.description);
trace(TYPE:  + fault.fault.type);
trace(DETAIL:  + fault.fault.detail);
 }
 
 Make sure to change the gateway URL to your setup. Here's the CFC:
 
 cfcomponent
cffunction name=sayHello access=remote returntype=string
cfreturn hello
/cffunction
 /cfcomponent
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:35 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 That would be great Chrisdamn MM should update their sample apps...or
 at
 least warn ya!! ;-)
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Brian,
 
 Since you're using the AS2 classes, you no longer #include NetServices.
 There is a whole new approach.
 
 
 I'll send a simple example in a minute...
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:18 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 NetServices.as: File not found. is the error
 
 var server =
 NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gatewa
 y
 );
 Is probably the line that needs to be fixed up??
 
 I haven't touched remoting in over a yearI know this is where I had
 trouble before.
 
 I've got Flash MX 2004 Pro installed with ActionScript 2.0 Flash
 Remoting
 Components and the UI component set 2.
 
 I'm trying to fire up the Noteboard tutorial from MMs site.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

So you're gateway is:

http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway/

You never include the CFC info in the gateway. Since you placed helloWorld
in internal/sierra, you're service line should look like:

service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway/;, null,
internal.sierra.helloWorld, null, responder);

Be sure to put the netdebug code right after all those import statements.

chris


On 4/14/05 2:30 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 As for the gateway, what URL do you preview your CF pages at?
 
 http://127.0.0.1 gets me to the webroot
 
 Now what am I ultimately after here?? should it point to the directory with
 the helloWorld.cfc??
 
 That is in http://127.0.0.1/internal/sierra/helloWorld.cfc
 
 It runs now with no errors (can't get NetConnection Debugger working)...no
 matter what gateway URL I use ;-)
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Come on - this is a hello world example on the timeline. I don't think we
need to strictly type it :)

I'd rather see him get the example working first, then we can deal with
classes and best practices.

I could have sent him a whole bunch of strictly typed AS2 classes that
abstract the remoting calls, handle client-side data caching, etc - all of
which I consider best practices - but that would be overkill for a simple
example don't you think?

chris



On 4/14/05 2:45 PM, Kevin Aebig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Not to insult, but simply taking out the strict typing doesn't constitute a
 fix. Its very bad practice to not use data typing in AS2. Also, I believe
 you'd find it alot easier to do remoting with View classes instead of the
 old linear way...
 
 Cheers,
 
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 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:18 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 My bad on those. To get rid of the errors, change the 2 methods to this:
 
 onResult = function(event)
 {
 trace(event.result);
 }
 
 onFault = function(event)
 {
 trace(FAULT CODE:  + event.fault.faultcode);
 trace(FAULT STRING:  + event.fault.faultstring);
 trace(DESCRIPTION:  + event.fault.description);
 trace(TYPE:  + event.fault.type);
 trace(DETAIL:  + event.fault.detail);
 }
 
 As for the gateway, what URL do you preview your CF pages at?
 
 chris
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:58 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Thanks Chrishere's the error:
 
 **Error** Scene=Scene 1, layer=Layer 1, frame=1:Line 13: The class
 'ResultEvent' could not be loaded.
  onResult = function(event:ResultEvent)
 
 **Error** Scene=Scene 1, layer=Layer 1, frame=1:Line 18: The class
 'FaultEvent' could not be loaded.
  onFault = function(event:FaultEvent)
 
 I'm just not sure what my gateway URL should be
 
 What I do know:
 1) CFMX 7 on JRun
 2) running this on localhost
 3) CFIDE etc. is in D:\web
 4) Jrun4 is in D:\Jrun4
 
 So my webroot is in D:\web
 
 Any ideas?
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:40 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Simple hello world example. Create a new fla, stick this on frame 1:
 
 import mx.remoting.*;
 import mx.remoting.debug.*;
 import mx.rpc.*;
 import mx.services.*;
 
 responder = new RelayResponder(this, onResult, onFault);
 service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1:8100/flashservices/gateway/;,
 null,
 helloWorld, null, responder);
 service.sayHello();
 
 onResult = function(event:ResultEvent)
 {
trace(event.result);
 }
 
 onFault = function(event:FaultEvent)
 {
trace(FAULT CODE:  + fault.fault.faultcode);
trace(FAULT STRING:  + fault.fault.faultstring);
trace(DESCRIPTION:  + fault.fault.description);
trace(TYPE:  + fault.fault.type);
trace(DETAIL:  + fault.fault.detail);
 }
 
 Make sure to change the gateway URL to your setup. Here's the CFC:
 
 cfcomponent
cffunction name=sayHello access=remote returntype=string
cfreturn hello
/cffunction
 /cfcomponent
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:35 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 That would be great Chrisdamn MM should update their sample
 apps...or
 at
 least warn ya!! ;-)
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
 cell: 250.920.8830
 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 1:25 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Brian,
 
 Since you're using the AS2 classes, you no longer #include NetServices.
 There is a whole new approach.
 
 
 I'll send a simple example in a minute...
 
 chris
 
 
 + Chris Kief
  Mindflood, Inc.
  714.557.2488 x113
 
  www.mindflood.com
 
 
 
 On 4/14/05 1:18 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 NetServices.as: File not found. is the error
 
 var server =
 
 NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gatewa
 y
 );
 Is probably the line that needs to be fixed up??
 
 I haven't touched remoting in over a yearI know this is where I
 had
 trouble before.
 
 I've got Flash MX 2004 Pro installed with ActionScript 2.0 Flash
 Remoting
 Components and the UI component set 2.
 
 I'm trying to fire up the Noteboard tutorial from MMs site.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers

Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Yup, its definitely a pain the first time. I forgot to ask, but did you
install the source files as well as the components?

http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashremoting/mx2004/components/actionscr
ipt_2.0/flashremoting_comp_sourcecode.zip

These need to go into your Flash Install Dir/First Run/Classes directory.

Macromedia decided to make it a 2 part install...

chris


On 4/14/05 3:00 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From Chris:
 service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway/;, null,
 internal.sierra.helloWorld, null, responder);
 
 Still no love
 
 From Ben:
 Be sure to append a ?, as in
 http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway?
 
 That didn't help either.
 
 I give up for today...not demoing Flash Remoting...just going to chat about
 it.  I think the folks getting the chat will like Flash Forms better anyway.
 
 Thanks for all the help though ;-)
 
 remoting is every bit as convoluted and poorly documented as I
 remember...oh for a decent basic working example with step by step
 instructions for complete idiots ;-)
 
 I'll pick it up again when time isn't such an issue
 
 Cheers
 
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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

Yeah - isn't that just too funny. Where's the big note on the download page
that says 'by the way - you need these as well if you want to do X, Y or
Z'??

With just the components you can do some stuff, just not the the script
based example I sent you (cause there is no source code to compile into the
movie).

chris


On 4/14/05 3:14 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I didn't dload a ZIP file...but I did install Flash MX 2004 components for
 Flash Remoting
 
 the file name was: flashremoting_comp_as20-win-en.exe
 
 So it looks like I may be missing the source files? gr
 *$*^*^%%^^1112! mother *^*(%87!!!
 
 there...that felt good ;-)
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
 phone: 250.480.0642
 fax: 250.480.1264
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 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 web: www.electricedgesystems.com
 - Original Message -
 From: Chris Kief | Mindflood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk cf-talk@houseoffusion.com
 Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:08 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting
 
 
 Yup, its definitely a pain the first time. I forgot to ask, but did you
 install the source files as well as the components?
 
 http://download.macromedia.com/pub/flashremoting/mx2004/components/actionscr
 ipt_2.0/flashremoting_comp_sourcecode.zip
 
 These need to go into your Flash Install Dir/First Run/Classes directory.
 
 Macromedia decided to make it a 2 part install...
 
 chris
 
 
 On 4/14/05 3:00 PM, Bryan Stevenson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
 From Chris:
 service = new Service(http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway/;, null,
 internal.sierra.helloWorld, null, responder);
 
 Still no love
 
 From Ben:
 Be sure to append a ?, as in
 http://127.0.0.1/flashservices/gateway?
 
 That didn't help either.
 
 I give up for today...not demoing Flash Remoting...just going to chat
 about
 it.  I think the folks getting the chat will like Flash Forms better
 anyway.
 
 Thanks for all the help though ;-)
 
 remoting is every bit as convoluted and poorly documented as I
 remember...oh for a decent basic working example with step by step
 instructions for complete idiots ;-)
 
 I'll pick it up again when time isn't such an issue
 
 Cheers
 
 Bryan Stevenson B.Comm.
 VP  Director of E-Commerce Development
 Electric Edge Systems Group Inc.
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 fax: 250.480.1264
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Re: CF 7 and Flash Remoting

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

I host a bunch of sites there and didn't need them to do anything to get
remoting going (with 6.1 or 7). Worked out of the box.

HMS would never need to install the source files or components - those are
just for the Flash IDE.

chris


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 yep...it's on a Dev box in the office...when you say hms had to enable
 remoting...what do you mean? install source and components? or flick some
 switch somewhere?
 
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Re: Has anyone else applied this patch yet???

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

That did not work for me as the new version of wsconfig.jar was still used
to generate the connectors. You would actually need to:

1. Run remove_all_coonectors.bat
2. Revert back to the previous version of wsconfig.jar
3. Run IIS_connectors.bat to reconfigure IIS.

Chris



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 Sounds as if the fix is to:
 
 1. Run the cf_root\bin\connectors\Remove_ALL_connectors.bat to completely
 remove all existing IIS configurations.
 
 2. Run the cf_root\bin\connectors\IIS_connectors.bat to properly configure
 all sites (existing and new).
 
 (This will pick up the new Connector)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Has anyone else applied this patch yet???

[Chris Kief | Mindflood]

I'm seeing the same problems here. Had to remove this patch.

Chris



On 3/28/05 5:04 PM, Paul Vernon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With regards to the following patch, has anyone applied it yet...
 
 ColdFusion MX 6.1 Updater: Hot Fix to upgrade web server connectors
 http://www.macromedia.com/go/238944b1
 
 I applied it earlier today and since then I have had my database connections
 go down TWICE, and ALL my cflocation's throughout all of the sites on the
 server concerned returned a 'Document contains no data' or 'Page cannot be
 displayed' error.
 
 I just backed out the patch be renaming the wsconfig.jar and re-compiling
 the old one using the command line instructions in the technote and lo and
 behold, all the cflocations are now working again and my databases seem to
 be totally solid again.
 
 This was applied to a fully patched CFMX 6.1 install running on W2k3 IIS 6.0
 fully patched.
 
 Any info or reproductions of this would be most appreciated.
 
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Cfchart on OS-X

[Chris Kief]

Has anyone been able to get cfchart working on OS X (CF 6.1)? I¹ve tried
adding the 
-Djava.awt.graphicsenv=com.gp.java2d.ExHeadlessGraphicsEnvironment JVM
argument but that doesn¹t work for me.

Thanks...chris

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CF7 on OS X

[Chris Kief]

I've installed CF 7 on OS X but I can't seem to get the CFIDE working when I
change the document root.

In my jrun-web.xml, I've set the context-root to / and set up the following
mappings:

virtual-mapping
resource-path/WEB-INF/*/resource-path
system-path/Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx7/cfusion/WEB-INF/system-path
/virtual-mapping
virtual-mapping
resource-path/*/resource-path
system-path/Users/ckief/Sites/system-path
/virtual-mapping

Everything is working fine and CF is serving pages as expected. I then tried
adding a virtual-mapping for the CFIDE:

virtual-mapping
resource-path/CFIDE/*/resource-path
system-path/Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx7/cfusion/CFIDE/system-path
/virtual-mapping

This didn't work. Browser was giving me a 404 error and the Jrun log file
showed:

error Requested resource '/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm'
(%2fCFIDE%2fadministrator%2findex.cfm) not found

I then found this technote
(http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19400) and
tried moving the CFIDE to the new document root as it says to do. Of course
that doesn't work either - same error.

Has anyone been able to accomplish this?
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Re: CF7 on OS X

[Chris Kief]

I'll answer my own question for the archive. If you change the context root
to /, you need to remove the CFMX RDS Application (for me this was located
at /Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx7/CFIDE). Just delete that folder and the
CFIDE will work.

chris
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On 2/19/05 3:42 PM, Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've installed CF 7 on OS X but I can't seem to get the CFIDE working when I
 change the document root.
 
 In my jrun-web.xml, I've set the context-root to / and set up the following
 mappings:
 
 virtual-mapping
 resource-path/WEB-INF/*/resource-path
 system-path/Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx7/cfusion/WEB-INF/system-path
 /virtual-mapping
 virtual-mapping
 resource-path/*/resource-path
 system-path/Users/ckief/Sites/system-path
 /virtual-mapping
 
 Everything is working fine and CF is serving pages as expected. I then tried
 adding a virtual-mapping for the CFIDE:
 
 virtual-mapping
 resource-path/CFIDE/*/resource-path
 system-path/Applications/JRun4/servers/cfmx7/cfusion/CFIDE/system-path
 /virtual-mapping
 
 This didn't work. Browser was giving me a 404 error and the Jrun log file
 showed:
 
 error Requested resource '/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm'
 (%2fCFIDE%2fadministrator%2findex.cfm) not found
 
 I then found this technote
 (http://www.macromedia.com/cfusion/knowledgebase/index.cfm?id=tn_19400) and
 tried moving the CFIDE to the new document root as it says to do. Of course
 that doesn't work either - same error.
 
 Has anyone been able to accomplish this?
 __
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 Mindflood, Inc.
 www.mindflood.com
 714.557.2488 x211
 
 
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Re: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever

[Chris Kief]

Yes, it does get very confusing very quickly. For the beginner, it's tough
to tell where to begin even. For Flash MX there's the AS1 remoting
components. For MX04 there are both AS1 and AS2 versions (and if you choose
to work with the AS2 version, you have to download and install 2 different
things). And we haven't even started using the stuff yet. So I hear ya Mike!

So I see you're using MX04. I take it you're using CF 6.1 or CF 7? Which
remoting components have you installed (if any)?

chris

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On 2/18/05 7:26 AM, Eric Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Amen.
 
 
 
 From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Fri 2/18/2005 6:35 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Flash Remoting remains as elusive as ever
 
 
 
 I confess, I am still totally flumoxed by flash remoting.  I have done
 a lot of things with CFCs, and I understand the ColdFusion side of it,
 but when it comes to the flash side of things, I can never find any
 resource that can lead me to getting even the most simple of things to
 work.
 
 For example .. I went to EasyCFM tonight to follow a beginners Flash
 Remoting tutorial, having decided that I ought to put in whatever
 effort was required to get my mind around it. My heart sank when
 the first instruction related to the flash end of it went awry.  From
 the File menu, choose New from Template, and go down to web  it says.
   Nope.  Not on my FlashMX2004Professional.  No such menu item.
 
 I knew immediately that this was a tutorial written for another
 version of Flash, and yet again nothing on my flash version would
 correlate with the tutorial.
 
 And so it went on - The first thing we do is include the necessary
 links to external Actionscript files that enable Flash Remoting.
 but no clue given about including .. WHERE?
 
 This has been teh case with all the tutorials I've tried to follow in
 the past, and the three books I have, bear little relationship to the
 version I have - a fully registered FlashMX2004Professional.
 
 Does anyone know of a beginners tutorial related to THIS version of
 flash?  There are so many differences between one version and another
 - nothing seems to be in the same place twice when I look.   I've
 learned from experience that you can enter stuff into flash but unless
 you have previously clicked the right frame and the right layer within
 the frame, nothing works.   So for a tutorial to be any use to
 beginners, it has to give that information too.  Simply saying
 include the necessary links is quite useless to a beginner (well
 this beginner anyway).
 
 I once tried to get help through the flash lists, but they did the
 same thing.  They tried their hardest to be helpful, but because they
 all know what to do, they forget to include the most basic information
 that isnt obvious to people like me who havent even got the simplest
 most elementary flash things to work.
 
 Is it a vain hope that there is a really basic beginners tutorial for
 flashMX2004Professional 7.2?
 
 Is it too much to ask that tutorial writers and book authors state
 what versions of things they're writing with?
 
 --
 Cheers
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RE: Flash question - newbie

[chris kief]

At a minimum, Flash Pro with or without the studio (not sure if you need
that extra stuff) and the free developer version of CFMX (which comes with
Flash Remoting).

You could get away with the standard version of Flash but the additional
components and integrated AS editor in Pro make it worth it.

chris


From: Stephen Hait [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2004 11:03 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash question - newbie

I'm interested in learning about developing applications on CFMX 
that utilize Flash but I confess I'm confused as to what I would 
need to do this. There seem to be various products; Flash MX 
2004, Flash MX Pro 2004 and Studio MX 2004 with Flash Pro, 
etc. that might do this.

What's the minimum software requirement for developing Flash 
apps? What would be the benefits of alternatives to the minimum?

I own CF Studio 5 if that's a factor.

Sorry this sounds so lame but I've never created anything with 
Flash and am clueless.

Regards,
Stephen

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RE: flash remoting help

[chris kief]

Did you get this working? From the looks of your code, you're never calling
the function, just declaring it. You need to invoke the function to get it
to work:

stop();

// Include the Required NetService class files
#include NetServices.as

// Connect to the Flash Remoting service
// Make the Gateway connection
NetServices.setDefaultGatewayUrl(http://www.lightwillrise.com:27000/flashse
rvices/gateway);
gatewayConnnection = NetServices.createGatewayConnection();
// path relative to webroot
svc = gatewayConnnection.getService(cfc.sendmail, this);

function insertIt() {
 svc.sendMail();
}

// invoke the function
insertIt();

chris


From: Ryan Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 3:02 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: flash remoting help

Hello

I'm playing with flash remoting to a cfc for the first time, and having a
few difficulties trying to get it all working...

Its on a shared hosting server, so within the flash I'm accessing the server
as follows (the coldfusion server runs on port 27000 so I'm assuming that¹s
the port for flash remoting!)

stop();
// Include the Required NetService class files
#include NetServices.as
// Connect to the Flash Remoting service
// Make the Gateway connection
NetServices.setDefaultGatewayUrl(http://www.lightwillrise.com:27000/flashse
rvices/gateway);
gatewayConnnection = NetServices.createGatewayConnection();
// path relative to webroot
svc = gatewayConnnection.getService(cfc.sendmail, this);

function insertIt() {
    
    svc.sendMail();

}

The file sendmail.cfc im trying to access is found in a folder cfc within
the webroot... So is cfc.sendmail the right path to put in?

The sendmail.cfc file itself is very simple...

cfcomponent
    cffunction name=sendMail access=remote returntype=boolean

!--- validate and insert ---
cfmail to=[EMAIL PROTECTED] subject=blah from=[EMAIL PROTECTED]

test email

/cfmail

cfreturn true

    /cffunction

Flash *seems* to connect to the server, but it just doesn¹t seem to send the
email!! Any help gratefully received...

Ryan

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RE: OT: flash remoting help

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That is incorrect. stop() only controls the timeline - not the execution of
AS. He just wasn’t invoking his function after he declared it.

chris


From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:29 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: flash remoting help

The stop is what is stopping your remoting call... How are you calling 
your function?

Also, sometimes they way you are setting your gateway, Flash doesn't 
create the connection properly..
try this:
if(inited == null) {
    inited = true;
    var conn = 
NetServices.createGatewayConnection(http://www.lightwillrise.com:27000/flas
hservices/gateway);
    var svc = conn.getService(cfc.sendMail, this);   
}

HTH

Ryan Mitchell wrote:

 Yeah I do get a blank page...
 I want the stop there to stop my movie :O)

 On 30/12/03 2:13 pm, Clint Tredway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What happens if you go to the gateway url in a browser? You should get a
  blank page. That means the gateway is working.
 
  You also, don't need the stop()that will kill your movie's timeline.
 
  HTH,
  Clint


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RE: OT: flash remoting help

[chris kief]

Really?

So the following doesn't trace anything out for you?

stop();

trace(still executing code);

I believe you mean that any ActionScript on frames past the one where the
stop is placed will not execute. That is, of course, because the playhead
never gets to that code. But code on the frame where the stop is placed will
always execute.

chris


From: Clint Tredway [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2003 6:20 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: OT: flash remoting help

when I put in a stop it stops everything...

Clint Tredway
www.digital12studios.com

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+AD4-That is incorrect. stop() only controls the timeline - not the
execution of
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+AD4-
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+AD4-your function?
+AD4-
+AD4-Also, sometimes they way you are setting your gateway, Flash doesn't 
+AD4-create the connection properly..
+AD4-try this:
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RE: flusing the trusted cache

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Not recommended by whom?


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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2003 1:51 PM
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Subject: Re: flusing the trusted cache

Tip:  Turn Trusted Cache off!    That feature is not recommended.

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| We just turned on the trusted cache in the cf administrator (CF5.0 on
| Solaris), and now I can't seem to flush it when small changes are made.
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RE: Flash troubles?

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To display html formatted text correctly in Flash, you’ll need to make it
'Flash-safe' first. This UDF should do the trick:

http://www.cflib.org/udf.cfm?ID=467

chris


From: Kristopher Pilles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 12:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Flash troubles?

I am using a WYSIWYG editor to save text into my DB that displays in
Flash.  I have found out that only properly formed HTML displays in
flash correctly.

Is there a way to make flash display all HTML or do you know of a
WYSIWYG that will format their HTML correctly???  And html withint the 
 around their commads causes my text not to display in flash.

Any help would be apprecitated

KP

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RE: Register Trial version of CFMX...

[chris kief]

This is incorrect. The bits layed down for CFMX Enterprise / Standard /
Developer stand alone (ie. has an integrated version of JRun) are all the
same. Various features are enabled / disabled depending on the serial
number. There is no need to uninstall / reinstall to switch between the
versions, just change the serial number.

There is a difference, however, if you select to install the J2EE
configuration of the Enterprise Edition (with CFMX deployed on a full
version of JRun or as an EAR/WAR file).

chris


From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 11:26 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Register Trial version of CFMX...

Yeah..

that was on initial installation.

I re-read your question, and I'm wondering if you mean after installing
CFMX Enterprise if you are expecting it to 'de-install' itself and
revert to a CFMX Professional installation. 

The two installation types are very different. One installs Jrun 4, and
the other just installs the basic CFMX services you are accustomed to.

For me? I installed the Enterprise...decided it was bogging down my
Development server a little too much and I had no plans to proceed to
production under Enterprise, so I uninstalled and reinstalled CFMX Pro
from the same file this time with my CFMX Pro Serial number. 

(if you check the archives you'll see I had some issues, but that was my
machine apparently and not typical).

Just clarifying :-)
-Gel

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RE: CFFUNCTION - Any thoughts??

[chris kief]

I've been unable to get this bit of code working on Linux myself. I'd like
to see a solution as well.

Also, not that it helps your problem, but no #s necessary here:

CreateObject(java,javax.swing.ImageIcon).init(ARGUMENTS.FileLoc)

chris


From: Bryan Stevenson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2003 4:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFFUNCTION - Any thoughts??

Hey All,

Below is a CFFUNCTION to check an image's size:

  cffunction name=ImageSize returnType=struct access=public

    cfargument name=FileLoc type=string required=Yes
    cfset ImageInfo = StructNew()
    cfset ImageObject =
CreateObject(java,javax.swing.ImageIcon).init(#ARGUMENTS.FileLoc#)

    cfset ImageInfo.ImgWidth = ImageObject.getIconWidth()
    cfset ImageInfo.ImgHeight = ImageObject.getIconHeight()

    cfreturn ImageInfo

  /cffunction

It works fine on Windows but bails on Linux RedHat 9.0 with CFMX 6.1
Enterprise installed.  There error is below.  It appears to be having an
issue instantiating the object abovebut I'm unsure as to whyany
thoughts??

ERROR DETAILS:
  struct
  Detail An exception occurred when instantiating a java object. The
cause of this exception was that: .
  Message Object Instantiation Exception.
  RootCause struct
Cause struct
  Message [empty string]
  StackTrace java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError at
java.lang.Class.forName0(Native Method) at
java.lang.Class.forName(Class.java:141) at
java.awt.Toolkit$2.run(Toolkit.java:748) at
java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method) at
java.awt.Toolkit.getDefaultToolkit(Toolkit.java:739) at
javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(ImageIcon.java:81) at
javax.swing.ImageIcon.init(ImageIcon.java:107) at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance0(Native Method) at
sun.reflect.NativeConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(NativeConstructorAcces
sorImpl.java:39) at
sun.reflect.DelegatingConstructorAccessorImpl.newInstance(DelegatingConstruc
torAccessorImpl.java:27) at
java.lang.reflect.Constructor.newInstance(Constructor.java:274) at
coldfusion.runtime.java.JavaProxy.CreateObject(JavaProxy.java:128) at
coldfusion.runtime.java.JavaProxy.invoke(JavaProxy.java:56) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:1622) at
cfutility2ecfc1211421247$funcIMAGESIZE.runFunction(/var/www/pmcfcs/utility.c
fc:53) at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:338) at
coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ReturnTypeFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:286) at
coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod$ArgumentCollectionFilter.invoke(UDFMethod.java:
250) at
coldfusion.filter.FunctionAccessFilter.invoke(FunctionAccessFilter.java:53)
at coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.runFilterChain(UDFMethod.java:203) at
coldfusion.runtime.UDFMethod.invoke(UDFMethod.java:359) at
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:196) at
coldfusion.runtime.TemplateProxy.invoke(TemplateProxy.java:139) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._invoke(CfJspPage.java:1582) at
coldfusion.tagext.lang.InvokeTag.doEndTag(InvokeTag.java:327) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.java:1872) at
cfleg_photo_maint2ecfm1369148617.runPage(/var/www/html/secure/includes/leg_p
hoto_maint.cfm:62) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147) at
coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage._emptyTag(CfJspPage.java:1871) at
cfindex2ecfm1722994938.runPage(/var/www/html/secure/index.cfm:48) at
coldfusion.runtime.CfJspPage.invoke(CfJspPage.java:147) at
coldfusion.tagext.lang.IncludeTag.doStartTag(IncludeTag.java:357) at
coldfusion.filter.CfincludeFilter.invoke(CfincludeFilter.java:62) at
coldfusion.filter.ApplicationFilter.invoke(ApplicationFilter.java:107) at
coldfusion.filter.RequestMonitorFilter.invoke(RequestMonitorFilter.java:43)
at coldfusion.filter.PathFilter.invoke(PathFilter.java:80) at
coldfusion.filter.ExceptionFilter.invoke(ExceptionFilter.java:47) at
coldfusion.filter.BrowserDebugFilter.invoke(BrowserDebugFilter.java:52) at
coldfusion.filter.ClientScopePersistenceFilter.invoke(ClientScopePersistence
Filter.java:28) at
coldfusion.filter.BrowserFilter.invoke(BrowserFilter.java:35) at
coldfusion.filter.GlobalsFilter.invoke(GlobalsFilter.java:43) at
coldfusion.filter.DatasourceFilter.invoke(DatasourceFilter.java:22) at
coldfusion.CfmServlet.service(CfmServlet.java:105) at
coldfusion.bootstrap.BootstrapServlet.service(BootstrapServlet.java:89) at
jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91) at
jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42) at
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:252) at
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527) at
jrun.servlet.jrpp.JRunProxyService.invokeRunnable(JRunProxyService.java:192)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:451
) at jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
 

RE: SessionTracker and session expiration

[chris kief]

Sam Neff talks about the reflection technique here:

http://www.rewindlife.com/archives/69.cfm

chris

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From: Benoit Hediard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 2:01 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SessionTracker and session expiration

Hi everyone,

Looking for an article on CFMX SessionTracker.

We have put in place a session tracker to count the number of sessions on
our application.

cfset tracker = createObject(java,coldfusion.runtime.SessionTracker)
cfset sessions = tracker.getSessionCollection(MyApp)
cfset sessionsNb = structCount(sessions)

This is working fine.
But we have recently replace the last line by :

cfset sessionsNb = 0
cfloop collection=#sessions# item=ID
cfif structKeyExists(sessions[ID],member)
cfset sessionsNb = sessionsNb + 1
/cfif
/cfloop

An advice, don't do this kind of manipulation on a regular basis (for
example with a scheduled task), because it creates a huge memory leak :
sessions will never expire!
It is probably because you touch the session content, so it changes the
timestamp of all the sessions...

I'm pretty sure I've read an article concerning this issue on a CF blog
somewhere.
If I remember well, the author was showing how to use java reflection to
workaround it.
Can't find it in the archives of CF blogs or even in google.

Anyone remember this?

Benoit Hediard
www.benorama.com
www.affinitiz.com

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RE: SQL server question

[chris kief]

Open Enterprise Manager and right click the Databases folder. Choose attach
database from the all tasks menu. A new window will open which will allow
you to select the MDF file and attach the database.

chris



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From: Robyn Follen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: OT: SQL server question

Hey all,

I recently did something really dumb - I had a really small SQL server
database that I was using for a home project, and, during an upgrade fiasco
(long story), I deleted it by mistake.Now... I see that the .MDF and .LDF
files still exist in my MSSQL7/data folder, and I would like to restore this
database, but I have no idea how to do it.Any ideas?

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RE: CF MX 6.1 Migration issue

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StructDelete on the Form scope works just fine, as does setting form values:

cfdump var=#form#
cfset form.foo = hello
cfdump var=#form#
cfset StructDelete(form, foo)
cfdump var=#form#

chris


From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 1:49 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF MX 6.1 Migration issue

 cfloop list=#variables.my_table_fields# index=x

 CFSET structDelete(form,#x#)

 cfparam name=form.#x# default=#qSelProgTable[#x#]#

 /cfloop

I don't believe you can use StructDelete() on scopes. I would rewrite 
the code as follows.

cfloop list=#variables.my_table_fields# index=x
cfif StructKeyExists(form, x)
cfset form[x] = qSelProgTable[x]
/cfif
/cfloop

Although, you may not be able to set values in the form scope either as 
some scopes have become read-only.

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RE: OT: Flash Remoting Question

[Chris Kief]

Flash Remoting is installed with CFMX - you don't need to buy anything else
or even download anything else. Sounds like you have a configuration
problem. Open the IIS snap-in and look for a JRunScripts virtual directory
in the site you're having problems with...is it there?

chris



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From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 6:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: OT: Flash Remoting Question

I don't see anything about downloads for the server. Everything I have read 
says they are installed by default. Do I need a specific mapping in IIS 
enabled?

Brook

At 06:04 PM 11/3/2003, you wrote:
hi brook
u need to download some more stuff
just go to www.macromedia.com  go to flash remoting ;)



  When I try to call the flash gateway on our CFMX server, I get a 404 at
  

http://localhost/flashservices/gateway/.http://localhost/flashservices/gat
eway/. 
 Isn't flash remoting installed
  bydefault? I can't find any info on this!
 
  Brook
 
 
 

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RE: Verity on Linux

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Can you explain how you got Verity running?

Macromedia issue number 50943 states Verity cannot index documents on
RedHat Linux versions 7.3 and later.
(http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_pro
blems.html#verity)

chris


From: Johan Steenkamp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2003 1:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Verity on Linux

Yves

We have Verity, CF MX 6.1 running as normal on RedHat 9.x (with latest
patches).

Johan
www.assetnow.com

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  From: Yves Arsenault 
  To: CF-Talk 
  Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2003 4:26 AM
  Subject: Verity on Linux

  Hello,

  I've been looking at the live docs and see that the Verity engine in
  CFMX doesn't run on any recent RH system and also doesn't on Suze..

  Does anyone run MX on Linux with the Verity engine working well?

  Also, I have been looking into Lucene
  (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/docs/index.html).

  Are there any other solutions out there?

  TIA,

  Yves Arsenault
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RE: Server Hardware

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The issue with Verity on Linux is that it doesn't work on anything above
RedHat 7.2:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/releasenotes/mx/mx61_known_prob
lems.html#verity

chris


From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Server Hardware

You might want to look at Dell dimension 4200 for your box, however I
understand
there are some issues with getting verity running on a Linux system.

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Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:29 PM
Subject: OT: Server Hardware

| Hello,
|
| I'm looking into buying a new box and I was wondering if anyone has any
| comments/suggestions on the following:
|
| Price is an issue, so this is the main guts of the server I've been
| looking at...
|
| Intel Celeron 2.6GHz Processor
| 1GB PC2700 DDR Memory
| (2) 120GB ATA100 RAID Hard Drives
| ATA100 IDE RAID Controller Card
|
| This would be running on a Linux OS, probably either RedHat or Debian.
| I would also be purchasing a CFMX 6.1 license, our new project demands
| verity so I believe that eliminates BlueDragon(if I find out otherwise I
| will be looking at each as a possible option).
|
| Also, I would be using MySQL and/or PostgreSQL on this same box.
|
| Has anyone had experiencing running servers with Celeron processors?
| Would there be any difference between a Celeron processor or P4?
| (besides slight difference in processing speed)
|
| Anything at all?
|
| :-)
|
| There is another box that I've seen with a comparable price, with a P4
| 2.4GHz, slightly more expensive and with 512MB less RAM. That is
| probably my second option.
|
| TIA,
|
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RE: Confused MX 2004 v 2004 / flash pro

[Chris Kief]

You mean they should have this technote?

 

http://www.macromedia.com/support/dreamweaver/ts/documents/emerging_issues.h
tm

 

 

 

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From: Peter Tilbrook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 6:21 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Confused MX 2004 v 2004 / flash pro

 

Emerging issues with Flash MX 2004 are available at:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/ts/documents/mx_04_emerging_issues.h
tm

They need one for Dreamweaver MX 2004 in my opinion. The context sensitive
help for example (as compared to HomeSite+) behaves very strangely.

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RE: Confused MX 2004 v 2004 / flash pro

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Peter,

 

They have a performance survey up:

 

http://www.surveymonkey.com/s.asp?u=5358277649%20

 

(linked off that emerging issues technote)

 

I'd give that a go along with the usual bug form:

 

http://www.macromedia.com/support/email/wishform/

 

chris

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2003 7:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Confused MX 2004 v 2004 / flash pro

 

Does anyone know of a way to pass on any concerns we encounter? Generally I
think the products are awesome but...




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RE: CFV: comp.lang.coldfusion Usenet Newsgroup

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It's buried down in that link - must wait 6 months.  _From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2003 11:26 AMTo: CF-TalkSubject: RE: CFV: comp.lang.coldfusion Usenet Newsgroup So can you try again?-Gel-Original Message-From: Dave Hodder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] It was a vote to create a Usenet discussion forum under the comp.* hierarchy.The full results, including the list of voters and rationale are at .http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=1064642212.4544%40isc.orghttp://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=1064642212.4544%40isc.orghttp://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=1064642212.4544%40isc.org%3e .A few of us are discussing it on the news.groups newsgroup; see .http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=bl3la7010ub%40enews4.newsguy.comhttp://gro!http://groups.google.com/groups?threadm=bl3la7010ub%40enews4.newsguy.coups.google.com/groups?threadm=bl3la7010ub%40enews4.newsguy.com .Regards,Dave_[Todays 
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OT: MX04 Released

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FYI...Looks like the DevNet Pros can get em now:

http://www.markme.com/jd/archives/003246.cfm


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RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

[Chris Kief]

Although this doesn't directly address your questions, it's good to see that
Homesite is still being actively developed with the new version available as
both a stand-alone product and with Dreamweaver 04:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/

chris



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Subject: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

I've gone through all the features in the Macromedia Site and I'm still
confused.

I went to the Dreamweaver MX Vision session at last year's DevCon and one
of
the things that impressed me was the speaker's admission that they knew
they
hadn't created a DWMX that was able to be everything for the CF Coder.  He
promised that the next version (2004) was going to be the one that got it
right for CF coders.  I also went to Ben's Bird of a Feather on the same
subject and there was a lot of good stuff that came out of that forum as
well.

However, the stuff I am seeing on the Web site, CSS Support, built in
graphics editor, still seems to mostly be aimed at the designer and not the
programmer.

Could someone who was on the beta (assuming your NDA is expired) or from
MACR give us a listing of updates that will benefit CF Coders?

Can we now:
   Assign Snippets to keystrokes?
   SQL builder ala Homesite +?
   Anything else?

I'm really curious. I still haven't really switched to DWMX since I can
code
faster in Homesite+.  I've written extensions for DWMX so I don't consider
myself a neophyte or someone who hasn't tried.  I really want to like it.
I
really want to know what are the new features for coders, not designers.

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RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

[Chris Kief]

I just went off the info at that link:

Macromedia announces HomeSite 5.5. HomeSite 5.5 provides a lean, code-only
editor for web development. Advanced coding features enable you to instantly
create and modify HTML, CFML, JSP, and XHTML tags, while enhanced
productivity tools allow you to validate, reuse, navigate, and format code
more easily. Configure Macromedia HomeSite to fit your needs by extending
its functionality and customizing the interface.

Macromedia HomeSite+ is included with Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.
Macromedia HomeSite+ is an application based on Macromedia HomeSite 5.5 but
with additional functionality for application development. Learn more about
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.

Now I read that as you can buy Homesite 5.5 alone or receive Homesite+ with
Dreamweaver (+ being 5.5 with 'additional functionality'). The pricing page
gives the same impression:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/productinfo/upgrade/

Homesite 5.5 - $99

chris



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

Query - where do you see it being a stand alone product? (By that I mean
your email leads me to belief that you saw that it would be sold by
itself, but I do not see it. Obviously it's stand alone in that it is
a different .exe file.)


===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
(www.mindseye.com)
Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blog : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
Yahoo IM : morpheus

My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:29 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?


 Although this doesn't directly address your questions, it's
 good to see that Homesite is still being actively developed
 with the new version available as both a stand-alone product
 and with Dreamweaver 04:

 http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/

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RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

[Chris Kief]

Let's not forget the FAQ either:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/productinfo/faq/

How can I purchase Macromedia HomeSite 5.5? 
HomeSite 5.5 is scheduled to be available for download soon. You will be
able to purchase HomeSite 5.5 through the Macromedia Online store. 


What is the price of HomeSite 5.5? 
HomeSite 5.5 is only $99US.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

I just went off the info at that link:

Macromedia announces HomeSite 5.5. HomeSite 5.5 provides a lean, code-only
editor for web development. Advanced coding features enable you to
instantly
create and modify HTML, CFML, JSP, and XHTML tags, while enhanced
productivity tools allow you to validate, reuse, navigate, and format code
more easily. Configure Macromedia HomeSite to fit your needs by extending
its functionality and customizing the interface.

Macromedia HomeSite+ is included with Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.
Macromedia HomeSite+ is an application based on Macromedia HomeSite 5.5 but
with additional functionality for application development. Learn more about
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.

Now I read that as you can buy Homesite 5.5 alone or receive Homesite+ with
Dreamweaver (+ being 5.5 with 'additional functionality'). The pricing page
gives the same impression:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/productinfo/upgrade/

Homesite 5.5 - $99

chris



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

Query - where do you see it being a stand alone product? (By that I mean
your email leads me to belief that you saw that it would be sold by
itself, but I do not see it. Obviously it's stand alone in that it is
a different .exe file.)


===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
(www.mindseye.com)
Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blog : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
Yahoo IM : morpheus

My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:29 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?


 Although this doesn't directly address your questions, it's
 good to see that Homesite is still being actively developed
 with the new version available as both a stand-alone product
 and with Dreamweaver 04:

 http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/

 chris






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RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

[Chris Kief]

Can you point me to a feature comparison between 5.5 and +?

chris



-Original Message-
From: Sandy Clark [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

That is Homesite, not Homesite +.  Think Homesite + as CFStudio.

Homesite + will still only be available with purchase of DWMX

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 3:03 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?


Let's not forget the FAQ either:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/productinfo/faq/

How can I purchase Macromedia HomeSite 5.5?
HomeSite 5.5 is scheduled to be available for download soon. You will be
able to purchase HomeSite 5.5 through the Macromedia Online store.


What is the price of HomeSite 5.5?
HomeSite 5.5 is only $99US.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

I just went off the info at that link:

Macromedia announces HomeSite 5.5. HomeSite 5.5 provides a lean, code-
only
editor for web development. Advanced coding features enable you to
instantly
create and modify HTML, CFML, JSP, and XHTML tags, while enhanced
productivity tools allow you to validate, reuse, navigate, and format code
more easily. Configure Macromedia HomeSite to fit your needs by extending
its functionality and customizing the interface.

Macromedia HomeSite+ is included with Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.
Macromedia HomeSite+ is an application based on Macromedia HomeSite 5.5
but
with additional functionality for application development. Learn more
about
Macromedia Dreamweaver MX 2004.

Now I read that as you can buy Homesite 5.5 alone or receive Homesite+
with
Dreamweaver (+ being 5.5 with 'additional functionality'). The pricing
page
gives the same impression:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/productinfo/upgrade/

Homesite 5.5 - $99

chris



-Original Message-
From: Raymond Camden [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 11:34 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?

Query - where do you see it being a stand alone product? (By that I mean
your email leads me to belief that you saw that it would be sold by
itself, but I do not see it. Obviously it's stand alone in that it is
a different .exe file.)


===
Raymond Camden, ColdFusion Jedi Master for Mindseye, Inc
(www.mindseye.com)
Member of Team Macromedia (http://www.macromedia.com/go/teammacromedia)

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Blog : www.camdenfamily.com/morpheus/blog
Yahoo IM : morpheus

My ally is the Force, and a powerful ally it is. - Yoda

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 25, 2003 12:29 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: DWMX 2004 - Whats new for us?


 Although this doesn't directly address your questions, it's
 good to see that Homesite is still being actively developed
 with the new version available as both a stand-alone product
 and with Dreamweaver 04:

 http://www.macromedia.com/software/homesite/

 chris








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RE: DevNet Pro watermark

[Chris Kief]

Have a look at this post on Steven Erat's blog addressing this very issue:

http://63.76.26.194/index.cfm?data=20030819#1B527BFB-45A6-2844-768196FDF6530
FE9

chris



-Original Message-
From: Calvin Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:31 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: DevNet Pro watermark

Has anyone else had issues with the DevNet Pro CFMX 6.1 watermark breaking
things like javascript output based templates, xml templates, plaintext
generating templates (such as strings for older flash movies) and so forth?

I've had to revert my CFMX DevNet Pro install back to 6 because it
prevented
me from being able to continue with development. :(

- Calvin


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RE: Real-life Flash remoting examples?

[Chris Kief]

Fairly recent project I developed for X-Games superstar Dave Mirra:
http://www.davemirra.com

I'd be happy to talk more about what's going on in there, just let me
know...chris


-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 2:29 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Real-life Flash remoting examples?

I'm preparing a proposal for an entertainment industry site, and the client
is excited about flash.  Can anyone point me towards some real-life
examples
of flash remoting in action?   I tried to explain how it benefits a site
and
I think all I did was confuse rather than excite.



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





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RE: cflock - what does it do? Exactly?

[Chris Kief]

Are you using version 5? If not, try looking at the current documentation.

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/6.1/htmldocs/tags-p71.htm#wp110078
7

chris



-Original Message-
From: Alan Ford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 12:28 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: cflock - what does it do? Exactly?

 Alan, this is a source of frequent confusion.

Darned tootin!

I have to say that a lot of the confusion has been caused by Allaire / MM
themselves. The definition here

http://livedocs.macromedia.com/coldfusion/5.0/CFML_Reference/T
ags57.htm

is just downright wrong, and a lot of other sites have just copied it. It
would be nice if MM revisited these docs.

Back in the bad old days on CF 4, 4.5 and 5 I never quite got the hang of
locking and the stress that everything should be locked. And I never quite
got it at least partly because I had been misinformed about what cflock
actually did.

I can understand race conditions, and understand that if all it blocks is
other cflocks then that dictates where you need locks.

I'm grateful to you for a very clear description of what cflock does and
doesn't do.

Regards,

Alan



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RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

[Chris Kief]

The migration wizard manages the installation of the ODBC services. There
should be no need to change files like you're suggesting.

Before re-installing 6.1, try removing / re-installing the connectors to
IIS. You can find bat files to handle this in C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors.

If that fails, I would re-run the 6.1 installer and see if that clears
things up. Be sure to rename the updater backup folder from your original
CFMX installation (C:\CFusionMX\cfmx_updater\cfmx_61) so that rerunning the
installer doesn't overwrite those files.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:06 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

Glad the first issue could be resolved. The second one is probably what the
other poster mentioned, which is that the migration tool has to be run.
Load up
this url:
http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
and let it run. If you get a 500 error on the url, then it's probable that
the
update didn't finish or didn't install some needed connector. In that case,
shut
down the IIS service, the CF service and SQL service (and any unneeded
service
like FTP, print spooling, etc.). Then re-run the 6.1 updater. After this
runs
and before doing anything else, make sure the ODBC is running (as you did
before). If not, fix it. If so, then run the migration. It should all go
ok.
It's possible that the IIS running when the updater was installed prevented
the
connector or something. As I don't use IIS, I can only speculate.

 You were correct that the ODBC Services were not started and would not
start
 manually. I followed your instructions exactly and after doing this the
 services started. That was exciting. Unfortunately the 500 error
persists.
 Tried restarting CF and IIS services: 500 error, tried server reboot: 500
 error. Any other ideas?

 Thank you so much for trying to help me.

 Dustin Snell
 Unisyn Software, LLC
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 - Original Message -
 From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:35 PM
 Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!


  Go to the services and see if the 2 MX ODBC services are running. If
not,
 try to
  start them. If they fail, then go to the cfusion/db dir and do a search
 for any
  *.ini with the words merant in them. Change all references to
c:\program
  files\merant to c:\cfusionmx\db (assuming the cfusionmx is in c). Then
 start the
  ODBC services.
  If that's not the problem, we'll go on from there. What webserver?
 
 
   Okay - hearing about all the great new stability enhancements in 6.1.
I
   immediately upgraded to eliminate a problem where the cold fusion
 service
   would stop responding until reboot about once a day at random times.
Now
   immediately after upgrade, all sites on this multsite server are
 returning
   an Internal Error 500 to the browser.
  
   I am so sad about this and I can see no way to revert back to the
 orginal
   MX - with all its problems at least it worked for most of the day.
  
   Looked in the event log and I can see that a Coldfusion SQL agent is
 GPFing
   Log folows:
  
   Reporting queued error: faulting application swagent.exe, version
 1.93.0.0,
   faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.
  
   however I am not sure if the 500 problem is related because it even
 happens
   when I access non-database related pages.  I would try to change the
 driver
   but I cannot access the web server without getting the 500 error -
not
 even
   the CF Administrator!  No other interesting entries in the event log.
   Everything worked before.
  
   Environment is:
   Windows 2003 Server
   SQL Server 2000 Latest SP
   CFMX 6.1
  
   Help if you can please!!! Macromedia says they won't help me unless I
 pay
   $500
  
  
  
 


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RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

[Chris Kief]

Were you able to run the migration tool after the install? If not, then the
ODBC services aren't installed yet which is most likely causing those
errors.

What webserver are you running?

chris

-Original Message-
From: Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

Okay - hearing about all the great new stability enhancements in 6.1. I
immediately upgraded to eliminate a problem where the cold fusion service
would stop responding until reboot about once a day at random times. Now
immediately after upgrade, all sites on this multsite server are returning
an Internal Error 500 to the browser.

I am so sad about this and I can see no way to revert back to the orginal
MX - with all its problems at least it worked for most of the day.

Looked in the event log and I can see that a Coldfusion SQL agent is GPFing
Log folows:

Reporting queued error: faulting application swagent.exe, version
1.93.0.0,
faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address 0x.

however I am not sure if the 500 problem is related because it even happens
when I access non-database related pages.  I would try to change the driver
but I cannot access the web server without getting the 500 error - not even
the CF Administrator!  No other interesting entries in the event log.
Everything worked before.

Environment is:
Windows 2003 Server
SQL Server 2000 Latest SP
CFMX 6.1

Help if you can please!!! Macromedia says they won't help me unless I pay
$500



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RE: Sessions and CFCs

[Chris Kief]

Hi Michael,

I show 6,1,0,63958 on all boxes that I've upgraded. Definitely very strange
what you're seeing...

chris



-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 7:17 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Sessions and CFCs

 The cache setup and the use look OK. What about the CFC itself?
I posted it to this thread earlier (in reply to Raymond)

  Is it possible that when I upgraded to 6.1 from the last beta
  something went
  wrong? I'm seeing  6,1,0,60662  as the build.

 You should see 6,1,0,63958 as the build so it looks like your last
 upgrade didn't take.
OK, that's really strange as the build for the HoF machine is  6,1,0,0
and
that was done from scratch (cf5-cfmx -cfmx 6.1)
Are you sure about that build number?


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RE: Mach II 1.0 released

[Chris Kief]

For MachII to work properly you must have the framework in the proper
location for CFMX to find the CFCs. Basically, you need to extract the
framework and sample application under your webroot like this:

c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MachII
c:\inetpub\wwwroot\ContactManager

This is because MachII (and thus CFMX) expect to find the CFCs in a certain
place. Let's look at a line of code from mach-ii.cfm within the MachII
folder:

cfset application.appLoader = CreateObject('component',
'MachII.framework.AppLoader') /

This tells CFMX to look for the AppLoader CFC in MachII\framework\ under
your webroot. For Mike this would be:

c:\inetpub\wwwroot\MachII\framework\AppLoader.cfc

Now let's look at mach-ii.xml from ContactManager\config\:

listener name=ContactManager type=ContactManager.model.ContactManager

This tells the framework to find the ContactManager CFC in
ContactManager\model\ under your webroot. Again, for Mike this would be:

c:\inetpub\wwwroot\ContactManager\model\ContactManager.cfc

Just remember that the dot notation for CFCs is just referring to folders
within your webroot:

MachII.framework.AppLoader = {webroot}\MachII\framework\AppLoader.cfc
ContactManager.model.ContactManager =
{webroot}\ContactManager\model\ContactManager.cfc

Hope this clears things up for folks...chris





-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 10:48 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach II 1.0 released

I'm puzzled too, Tony. All I've done is open the MachII_1_0_0.zip file and
extract it to c:\inetpub\wwwroot.   It happily installed all the files into
folders under c:\inetput\wwwroot\machii.

Dave Carabetta said I also had to unpack the contactmanager app, but there
is already a contactmanager folder under the Machii folder.  Is this not
the
sample app?

After I unzipped the machii file, I navigated to http://localhost/machii
and
that's where I got the error message.   When I went to
http://localhost/machii/contactmanager  I got another message saying
something couldn't be found.

I have to say that just looking at all these files doesn't help much.
There
are now 56 files under the /machii folder, and while I haven't actually
looked at all of them, none I've found seem to do anything themselves, they
all seem to call something else.   I can't see where any data is being
stored, and what all these files do is not at all obvious to me.

I guess this machii thing is going to be beyond me until I can win lotto
and
afford to travel to a training session in the USA.

It's certainly not like fusebox, where the functionality of everything is
pretty obvious and it's easy to follow what's doing what even for
non-fusebox people.



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.




-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 3:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach II 1.0 released

I don't have a mapping in my cfadministrator?

what am I missing? is there some sort of install this this way freakin
doc somewhere?

tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 1:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach II 1.0 released


I had the same problem as Tony Weeg - with exactly the same error
message (except mine said the error was on line 14 not 11)

I looked at the mappings set up in CFadminstrator and it had set up a
/machii mapping to c:\inetpub\wwwroot\machii\contactmanager

So I manually changed the mapping to C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MachII   and
the
problem went away.

That's the good news.

The bad news is it was replaced by another error message telling me it
couldn't find something else. (specifically: The cause of this
exception
was: java.io.FileNotFoundException:
C:\Inetpub\wwwroot\MachII\config\mach-ii.xml (The system cannot find
the
path specified).

Is there a doc somewhere that sys where everything ought to be for a
default
installation?


The framework itself can't be run on its own (at least, as far as I can
tell). It has to be run as part of an example. Download the
ContactManager,
unzip it to your root, and then navigate to the index.cfm file in your
browser. It all worked easily for me.

However, my problem with it is that the perfmance of the framework isn't

very good. But that's another issue altogether.

Regards,
Dave.

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RE: CFMX 6.1 Install

[Chris Kief]

I would try restarting the box and then installing the connectors via the
batch file found in cfroot\bin\connectors.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX 6.1 Install

I am attempting to install CFMX 6.1 and the installer is giving an error
...

'You have successfully completed the first step in installing Macromedia
ColdFusion MX.   However, the web server connectors did not install
successfully.  One possible reason is that port 51010 is blocked.'

Anybody got any suggestions?  This install is on my personal workstation
and I have no idea why 51010 would be blocked.  The message includes
some instructions that include manually installing the web connectors
using the directions in the install guide.  Where is this install guide
- did I miss something in the download?

Thanks for the help.
-- Jeff


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RE: CFC for thumbnail creation

[Chris Kief]

And not only that, the thumbnails it creates just don't cut it.

I'm testing your CFC in just a few moments Massimo. Hopefully with some
better results than JAI.

Thanks for putting this together...chris



-Original Message-
From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC for thumbnail creation

 On Monday 11 Aug 2003 18:02 pm, Massimo Foti wrote:
  Now that CF 6.1 ships with JRE 1.4 I rewrote my CFC for thumbnail
  generation (it doesn't require JSP anymore).

 Any reason not to use JAI like the examples given in the MM devNet
article:
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/jai_images.html
 ?

Because it requires to install Java classes on the server, something that
is
usually not allowed by hosting companies on shared servers.

If you are interested in JAI, I would suggest to check:

http://www.macromedia.com/software/drk/productinfo/product_overview/volume4
/
coldfusionmx.html#jimg


Massimo Foti
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RE: JRun With CFMX Enterprise

[Chris Kief]

Why not just choose the middle option (6.1 with a full version of JRun)??

chris



-Original Message-
From: Stacy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:50 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: JRun With CFMX Enterprise

Take a look at the 6.1 installer. If you select the J2EE option there is
no mention of a JRun installer. ;)

Ben said with the upgrade that standalone users can now re-deploy on
J2EE for free...but you still need a J2EE server. Whether that be JRun
or Weblogic, it's a separate expense.

Stace

-Original Message-
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:40 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: JRun With CFMX Enterprise

 A) You need JRun already (purchased separately)
 B) Yup (Ben just confirmed)

I dont think this is what Ben Said.

What a confusion!

- Original Message -
From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:08 PM
Subject: RE: JRun With CFMX Enterprise


 A) You need JRun already (purchased separately)
 B) Yup (Ben just confirmed)

 Stace

 -Original Message-
 From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 2:21 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: JRun With CFMX Enterprise

 I havent installed the J2EE Version/Option of CFMX 6.1, upgraded from
 CFMX ENT 6.0 with Server Option.

 1. Do you get the Full Blown Version of JRun, when you Install CFMX
6.1
 J2EE Option?
 i.e. You get JRun JMC and CFMX Management Console?

 2. If you already have CFMX ENT 6.0, you automatically get 2 CPU
License
 for CFMX J2EE Install Option?


 Can someone Clarify?

 Thanks,
 Joe Eugene





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RE: Mach II 1.0 released

[Chris Kief]

As long as x:\tony\www\ is your webroot then you would be fine.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 11:17 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach II 1.0 released

GOT IT!

finally

kinda limiting that I have to put the files in CERTAIN places
on a machine, what if my main root isnt c:\inetpub\wwwroot\
and its x:\tony\www\

just wondrin'

tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
www.navtrak.net
office 410.548.2337
fax 410.860.2337


-Original Message-
From: Mike Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 2:11 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Mach II 1.0 released


I agree with Tony, Hal  none of the downloaded files contain any
text files saying how to install.  There's nothing on the mach-ii.com
site about that, and when you unzip the released package it doesn't
install the way you just described.

Incidentally, I just moved the 'contactmanager' folder up a level so
it's just under the c:\inetpub\wwwroot and I got another 'cant find'
message. (Could not find the ColdFusion Component
MachII.framework.RequestHandler in this case)

What mappings should be set up?  IIs mappings?  CFAdministrator
mappings?



Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.




-Original Message-
From: Tony Weeg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, 14 August 2003 3:58 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Mach II 1.0 released

so is there some sort of release notes on how to install?

tony weeg
uncertified advanced cold fusion developer
tony at navtrak dot net
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RE: CFMX 6.1 Install

[Chris Kief]

Glad to hear that got you sorted without doing a full reinstall.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 12:26 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 6.1 Install

I did this and things appear to be working ... so much for a flawless
install.

Thanks for the help.
-- Jeff


-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 2:13 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CFMX 6.1 Install


I would try restarting the box and then installing the connectors via
the
batch file found in cfroot\bin\connectors.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Jeff Chastain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX 6.1 Install

I am attempting to install CFMX 6.1 and the installer is giving an
error
...

'You have successfully completed the first step in installing
Macromedia
ColdFusion MX.   However, the web server connectors did not install
successfully.  One possible reason is that port 51010 is blocked.'

Anybody got any suggestions?  This install is on my personal
workstation
and I have no idea why 51010 would be blocked.  The message includes
some instructions that include manually installing the web connectors
using the directions in the install guide.  Where is this install guide
- did I miss something in the download?

Thanks for the help.
-- Jeff




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RE: CFC for thumbnail creation

[Chris Kief]

My bad Matt. I wasn't referring to your article in my post...should have
clarified my statement.

I was actually commenting on the Jimg custom tag / component wrapper for JAI
from DRK 4 that Massimo mentioned. The thumbnails from that just aren't good
at all.

Maybe with some tweaks JAI can produce a decent thumbnail. But from what
I've seen so far, nothing can come close to ImageCR from Efflare.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFC for thumbnail creation

I think you are judging JAI improperly based on the article I wrote.
Image manipulation is tricky to do in a way that works best for all
types of images in all situations. Some people have had good success
with the code I provided; others have not. However, the code I
presented in the article used the most common algorithm for resampling
of thumbnails, which is not always the best algorithm. Before judging
the quality of JAI, one should try other algorithms it offers for
resampling.

The algorithm I used in the article was InterpolationNearest, but one
can easily modify the code the use any one of the following:
   InterpolationBilinear
   InterpolationBicubic
   InterpolationBicubic2
   InterpolationTable

-Matt

On Monday, August 11, 2003, at 02:13 PM, Chris Kief wrote:

 And not only that, the thumbnails it creates just don't cut it.

 I'm testing your CFC in just a few moments Massimo. Hopefully with some
 better results than JAI.

 Thanks for putting this together...chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Massimo Foti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:23 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CFC for thumbnail creation

 On Monday 11 Aug 2003 18:02 pm, Massimo Foti wrote:
 Now that CF 6.1 ships with JRE 1.4 I rewrote my CFC for thumbnail
 generation (it doesn't require JSP anymore).

 Any reason not to use JAI like the examples given in the MM devNet
 article:
 http://www.macromedia.com/devnet/mx/coldfusion/articles/
 jai_images.html
 ?

 Because it requires to install Java classes on the server, something
 that
 is
 usually not allowed by hosting companies on shared servers.

 If you are interested in JAI, I would suggest to check:

 http://www.macromedia.com/software/drk/productinfo/product_overview/
 volume4
 /
 coldfusionmx.html#jimg

 
 Massimo Foti
 Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
 Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
 http://www.massimocorner.com/
 





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RE: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing

[Chris Kief]

Where is $4999 coming from? Looks like $5999 per 2 CPUs to me...

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/productinfo/product_editions/#
pricing

chris



-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 12:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing

$4999.00  (waiting for the MM site to update)

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From: Stacy Young [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:00 PM
Subject: RE: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing


| Whoa, did this just change? So are u saying that for one machine with
| dual CPU we'd be looking at $3499 US for CFMX J2EE?
|
| Stace
|
| -Original Message-
| From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:36 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Multiple instances of CFMX - licensing
|
| Licensing is per 2 CPUs. So if you're running it on a dual box, one CF
| Enterprise license is sufficient, no matter how many instances you are
| running. If you're running it on a quad box, you'd need two licenses
| (2x2=4), no matter how many instances.
|
| Phil
|
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RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

[Chris Kief]

I never ran into that one on any of the builds so thanks for pointing this
out. Definitely going to make note of it.

chris


-Original Message-
From: Matt Robertson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:30 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

Chris Kief wrote:

The migration wizard manages the installation of the ODBC services. There
should be no need to change files like you're suggesting.

This was a bug that caused a fair amount of trouble during the beta cycle.
It was reported in the bug tracker as eradicated but may not have been;
especially from the sound of things.  The bug only affected upgrade
installs as I recall.  I certainly caught some sort of jdbc/odbc-killing
bug after RC1, which I'm still running on as a result.  Crossing fingers
and hoping the next install of the final doesn't bite me.

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RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

[Chris Kief]

After removing CFMX, look in the registry for HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE / SOFTWARE
/ Macromedia / Install Data / ColdFusion MX - remove this folder and then
reinstall. I believe that should take care of it (it's been awhile since I
had to do this so no guarantees).

chris

 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:58 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Ahh - so there's the source of the problem. When you first installed CFMX,
CF 5 was tied to IIS and so CFMX wouldn't allow you to also use it with
IIS.
A registry key was set indicating this.

So now when you're trying to reinstall it, the installer is finding that
registry key and not allowing you to use IIS. You'll need to remove CF 5 if
you haven't done so already, delete that registry key, and then reinstall
CFMX.

I'll try to find that key for you in just a sec...chris



-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

It did when I did the first install.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Not sure if you mentioned this...but the box doesn't have CF 5 on it
does
it?



-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Still not working. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Tried that. Shut down the service and ran the connectors. Still went to
the 8500 port. Hopefully a reboot will work.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Did you try installing it anyways and then running the connectors in
the
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors directory?
That should do the trick.. If not, wait for Dave Watts to reply, he
always
gets the IIS/Wwin2K/Cf questions  :-)

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS


I am trying to install MX on my WIN2K server. During the install it
does
not give me the option of choosing IIS as my web server. I uninstalled
and reinstalled and followed the instructions in the Knowledge Base
that
told me how to change the jrun file. This still did not work. Can
anyone
help me out with this?

Thanks










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RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

[Chris Kief]

Ahhh - gotcha. Nice call then Michael.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

Trust me, if the files in the cfusionmx/db directory say merant in them as
mentioned in the other post then there was an error on install and the
steps I
mentioned need to be made. If not, the migration wizard will not even work.
It's
super rare, but it does happen.


 The migration wizard manages the installation of the ODBC services. There
 should be no need to change files like you're suggesting.

 Before re-installing 6.1, try removing / re-installing the connectors to
 IIS. You can find bat files to handle this in
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors.

 If that fails, I would re-run the 6.1 installer and see if that clears
 things up. Be sure to rename the updater backup folder from your original
 CFMX installation (C:\CFusionMX\cfmx_updater\cfmx_61) so that rerunning
the
 installer doesn't overwrite those files.

 chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!
 
 Glad the first issue could be resolved. The second one is probably what
the
 other poster mentioned, which is that the migration tool has to be run.
 Load up
 this url:
 http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
 and let it run. If you get a 500 error on the url, then it's probable
that
 the
 update didn't finish or didn't install some needed connector. In that
case,
 shut
 down the IIS service, the CF service and SQL service (and any unneeded
 service
 like FTP, print spooling, etc.). Then re-run the 6.1 updater. After this
 runs
 and before doing anything else, make sure the ODBC is running (as you
did
 before). If not, fix it. If so, then run the migration. It should all go
 ok.
 It's possible that the IIS running when the updater was installed
prevented
 the
 connector or something. As I don't use IIS, I can only speculate.
 
  You were correct that the ODBC Services were not started and would not
 start
  manually. I followed your instructions exactly and after doing this
the
  services started. That was exciting. Unfortunately the 500 error
 persists.
  Tried restarting CF and IIS services: 500 error, tried server reboot:
500
  error. Any other ideas?
 
  Thank you so much for trying to help me.
 
  Dustin Snell
  Unisyn Software, LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!
 
 
   Go to the services and see if the 2 MX ODBC services are running. If
 not,
  try to
   start them. If they fail, then go to the cfusion/db dir and do a
search
  for any
   *.ini with the words merant in them. Change all references to
 c:\program
   files\merant to c:\cfusionmx\db (assuming the cfusionmx is in c).
Then
  start the
   ODBC services.
   If that's not the problem, we'll go on from there. What webserver?
  
  
Okay - hearing about all the great new stability enhancements in
6.1.
 I
immediately upgraded to eliminate a problem where the cold fusion
  service
would stop responding until reboot about once a day at random
times.
 Now
immediately after upgrade, all sites on this multsite server are
  returning
an Internal Error 500 to the browser.
   
I am so sad about this and I can see no way to revert back to the
  orginal
MX - with all its problems at least it worked for most of the day.
   
Looked in the event log and I can see that a Coldfusion SQL agent
is
  GPFing
Log folows:
   
Reporting queued error: faulting application swagent.exe, version
  1.93.0.0,
faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x.
   
however I am not sure if the 500 problem is related because it
even
  happens
when I access non-database related pages.  I would try to change
the
  driver
but I cannot access the web server without getting the 500 error -
 not
  even
the CF Administrator!  No other interesting entries in the event
log.
Everything worked before.
   
Environment is:
Windows 2003 Server
SQL Server 2000 Latest SP
CFMX 6.1
   
Help if you can please!!! Macromedia says they won't help me
unless I
  pay
$500
   
   
   
  
 
 


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RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

[Chris Kief]

Glad to hear you're sorted then!

chris



-Original Message-
From: Dustin Snell [Unisyn Software, LLC] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!

Chris,

Your suggestion of re-running the IIS connector worked like a charm
(probably worked better this time because the INI files installed by
ColdFusion aren't pointing to a non-existent folder of some other product
*grr*).

Thanks to Michael also for your help. This listserve has always been there
to get my out of a tough spot. I hope I can help someone out sometime in
the
future to give back.

Now if only Macromedia could stop hurting me with their upgrades :-)

Dustin Snell
Unisyn Software, LLC
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
- Original Message -
From: Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:14 PM
Subject: RE: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!


 The migration wizard manages the installation of the ODBC services. There
 should be no need to change files like you're suggesting.

 Before re-installing 6.1, try removing / re-installing the connectors to
 IIS. You can find bat files to handle this in
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors.

 If that fails, I would re-run the 6.1 installer and see if that clears
 things up. Be sure to rename the updater backup folder from your original
 CFMX installation (C:\CFusionMX\cfmx_updater\cfmx_61) so that rerunning
the
 installer doesn't overwrite those files.

 chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 5:06 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!
 
 Glad the first issue could be resolved. The second one is probably what
the
 other poster mentioned, which is that the migration tool has to be run.
 Load up
 this url:
 http://127.0.0.1:8500/CFIDE/administrator/index.cfm
 and let it run. If you get a 500 error on the url, then it's probable
that
 the
 update didn't finish or didn't install some needed connector. In that
case,
 shut
 down the IIS service, the CF service and SQL service (and any unneeded
 service
 like FTP, print spooling, etc.). Then re-run the 6.1 updater. After this
 runs
 and before doing anything else, make sure the ODBC is running (as you
did
 before). If not, fix it. If so, then run the migration. It should all go
 ok.
 It's possible that the IIS running when the updater was installed
prevented
 the
 connector or something. As I don't use IIS, I can only speculate.
 
  You were correct that the ODBC Services were not started and would not
 start
  manually. I followed your instructions exactly and after doing this
the
  services started. That was exciting. Unfortunately the 500 error
 persists.
  Tried restarting CF and IIS services: 500 error, tried server reboot:
500
  error. Any other ideas?
 
  Thank you so much for trying to help me.
 
  Dustin Snell
  Unisyn Software, LLC
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  - Original Message -
  From: Michael Dinowitz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 4:35 PM
  Subject: Re: CF 6.1 upgrade causes sitewide 500 error!! Pain!
 
 
   Go to the services and see if the 2 MX ODBC services are running. If
 not,
  try to
   start them. If they fail, then go to the cfusion/db dir and do a
search
  for any
   *.ini with the words merant in them. Change all references to
 c:\program
   files\merant to c:\cfusionmx\db (assuming the cfusionmx is in c).
Then
  start the
   ODBC services.
   If that's not the problem, we'll go on from there. What webserver?
  
  
Okay - hearing about all the great new stability enhancements in
6.1.
 I
immediately upgraded to eliminate a problem where the cold fusion
  service
would stop responding until reboot about once a day at random
times.
 Now
immediately after upgrade, all sites on this multsite server are
  returning
an Internal Error 500 to the browser.
   
I am so sad about this and I can see no way to revert back to the
  orginal
MX - with all its problems at least it worked for most of the day.
   
Looked in the event log and I can see that a Coldfusion SQL agent
is
  GPFing
Log folows:
   
Reporting queued error: faulting application swagent.exe, version
  1.93.0.0,
faulting module unknown, version 0.0.0.0, fault address
0x.
   
however I am not sure if the 500 problem is related because it
even
  happens
when I access non-database related pages.  I would try to change
the
  driver
but I cannot access the web server without getting the 500 error -
 not
  even
the CF Administrator!  No other interesting entries in the event
log.
Everything worked before.
   
Environment is:
Windows 2003 Server
SQL Server 2000 Latest SP
CFMX 6.1
   
Help if you can please!!! Macromedia says they won't help me
unless
I
  pay
$500

RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

[Chris Kief]

Ahh - so there's the source of the problem. When you first installed CFMX,
CF 5 was tied to IIS and so CFMX wouldn't allow you to also use it with IIS.
A registry key was set indicating this.

So now when you're trying to reinstall it, the installer is finding that
registry key and not allowing you to use IIS. You'll need to remove CF 5 if
you haven't done so already, delete that registry key, and then reinstall
CFMX.

I'll try to find that key for you in just a sec...chris



-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:43 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

It did when I did the first install.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:39 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Not sure if you mentioned this...but the box doesn't have CF 5 on it
does
it?



-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Still not working. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Tried that. Shut down the service and ran the connectors. Still went to
the 8500 port. Hopefully a reboot will work.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Did you try installing it anyways and then running the connectors in
the
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors directory?
That should do the trick.. If not, wait for Dave Watts to reply, he
always
gets the IIS/Wwin2K/Cf questions  :-)

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS


I am trying to install MX on my WIN2K server. During the install it
does
not give me the option of choosing IIS as my web server. I uninstalled
and reinstalled and followed the instructions in the Knowledge Base
that
told me how to change the jrun file. This still did not work. Can
anyone
help me out with this?

Thanks









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RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

[Chris Kief]

Not sure if you mentioned this...but the box doesn't have CF 5 on it does
it?



-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Still not working. Does anyone have any other suggestions?

-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:15 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Tried that. Shut down the service and ran the connectors. Still went to
the 8500 port. Hopefully a reboot will work.

-Original Message-
From: Michael T. Tangorre [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 6:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS

Did you try installing it anyways and then running the connectors in the
C:\CFusionMX\bin\connectors directory?
That should do the trick.. If not, wait for Dave Watts to reply, he
always
gets the IIS/Wwin2K/Cf questions  :-)

Mike


-Original Message-
From: Harold Brauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 04, 2003 8:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Installing MX on WIN2K and Not Getting IIS


I am trying to install MX on my WIN2K server. During the install it does
not give me the option of choosing IIS as my web server. I uninstalled
and reinstalled and followed the instructions in the Knowledge Base that
told me how to change the jrun file. This still did not work. Can anyone
help me out with this?

Thanks







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RE: Visual Regular Expression tool

[Chris Kief]

I think he's talking about when he runs the executable. I'm receiving the
same error on Windows XP Pro.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Michael Dinowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 7:33 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Visual Regular Expression tool

No clue. here's the direct link:
http://www.cfregex.com/visualregex/kregexpeditor.zip
There's no security on the directory and nothing that can stop it from
being
downloaded.
If it was on the HoF server then I can understand there being a problem.
Since I put in some of the google stuff we've been hammered with requests.
It's bogging down the machine. I'm going to have to do something about that
really soon.


 oi Michael!!

 I  get  a windows cannot access the specified device,path or file. You
may not have the appropriate
 permissions to access the item WTF?

 Ctz




 
 Tuesday, July 15, 2003, 6:26:35 PM, you wrote:

 MD Download it now:
 MD http://www.cfregex.com
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RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

[Chris Kief]

From the preso slides (http://www.mach-ii.com/downloads/MachII-Preso.ppt):

In keeping with the language-neutral nature of the architecture,
we've adopted a new name: Mach-II

chris


-Original Message-
From: Joe Eugene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:59 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?

 Mach II == Fusebox MX.
Any reason why they renamed Fusebox MX to Mach II?

Joe Eugene


 -Original Message-
 From: Kwang Suh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 12:40 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?


 Mach II == Fusebox MX.

 - Original Message -
 From: Joe Eugene [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 9:37 PM
 Subject: RE: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?


   http://www.mach-ii.com/
 
  Interesting.. didnt know Hal Helms and group were working on another
  Framework Project.
 
   Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX).
  I havent looked deep into Fusebox MX, its still in beta. Honestly,
  didnt quite understand the whole idea of Circuits/Parsed files etc.
 
  I would rather just use a base Controller/Parser and multiple
  Controller helpers.. alot like Jakarta Struts.. Minus some of
  the Complexity in Struts.
 
  Joe Eugene
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Sean A Corfield [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 6:24 PM
   To: CF-Talk
   Subject: Re: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?
  
  
   Interesting... looks a lot like Mach II (nee Fusebox MX). See
   http://www.mach-ii.com/
  
   On Monday, Jul 14, 2003, at 15:01 US/Pacific, Joe Eugene wrote:
  
I have used alot of Concepts from Jakarta Structs as MVC for recent
application.
It worked very well, with a very high level of code management.
Begining
with
file structure
   
index.cfm is the only exposed page of the applicaiton.
application.xml for application level control/instantiation
   
system/model/data -- contains data objects
system/model/logic -- logic controls
system/model/validator -- validation controls for forms etc
   
system/controller -- controller files
system/view -- all view sub-components or pages.
   
controller.xml for flow control and method execution mappings..
similar to
whats
done in Jakarta Struts except ...*.cfc used here. All
 method mappings
are
executed
dynamically and variables in the xml mapping get the result or set
values in
variables scope. View Components do NOT touch high level scope
variables
like
client/session/application.
   
I have been quite happy with the Model.. Once the model is
written..
all you
do is
write your data layer methods and view pages.. and you are
 done.. The
controller does
the rest of the job.
   
Ease of development and organization
Heavy resistance from other CF Developers at first.. but then some
started
to realize
the benefits... Others are hung on the Fusebox 3 Case Style.
   
If you are really excited about developing some class
 applications and
tight
coding... it becomes very hard
to work with developers who arent looking to improve.. but just get
 the
project done...
   
Joe Eugene
   
- Original Message -
From: Smith, Don , CTR , WHS/PSD [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 3:50 PM
Subject: Anyone using Jakarta Struts for cfmx?
   
   
Is anyone using Jakarta Struts for CFMX and can they comment
toward
its
use?
   
I am looking for a published development framework that would be
flexible
enough for development in, plus allow our team to investigate new
technologies outside of CFMX -I like what I read of Struts'
integration of
Java technology but I haven't implemented it yet.
   
I'm working with some staff for whom integration of existing Java
libraries
would be a stretch and others who could handle it easily, but it
 would
require ramp-up time and
education.
   
I am hoping to find a framework that would allow me to point new
developers
to existing materials so I would not have to write up an
 entire code
like
I
do book.  I am also hoping that it would add something on top of
CFMX and
not merely reorganize CFMX without adding anything.
   
How was your:
Ease of development and organization
Integration with Java for non-Java programmers
Success rate in getting users to adapt
   
THANKS!
   
Don
   
   
   
  
 


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RE: unnecessary jsessionid in the url

[Chris Kief]

It was a bug that I thought was supposed to be fixed in Updater 3. Have you
updated your server?

See this post on Sean's blog for more info:

http://www.corfield.org/index.php?fuseaction=blog.archivemonth=2003_02#0002
42

chris


-Original Message-
From: Tim Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: unnecessary jsessionid in the url

Yes.. That took out the cfid and cftoken.. But the jsessionid is still
there
everytime a new browser window is launched.

-Original Message-
From: Costas Piliotis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:38 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: unnecessary jsessionid in the url


AFAIK, addtoken=no in the cflocation tag should do it...  At least in CF5
:)

-Original Message-
From: Tim Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 4:25 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: unnecessary jsessionid in the url


Hello All,

I'm trying to do a cflocation and there is a jsessionid appended to the
url... but like this LoginPage.cfm;JSESSIONID=80301173431057274626375

the semicolon is causing the page not to be displayed.. how do I get it so
it doesn't append the jsessionid?

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RE: Server is very slow

[Chris Kief]

Have you updated your install to Updater 3?

http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/special/updater/faq/

chris


-Original Message-
From: Ray Bujarski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:50 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Server is very slow

I am running the new CFMX server on a sparc9 box with 2gig of ram and 2
750MHz processors.  The CFMX server wants to hog 50% of the processor,
as well as a half a gig of memory, without anyone even making requests
to the server. Is this typical behavioral traits of MX?  Is there any
way to tame this server down a bit?
Thanks for any info anyone may have?

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RE: Recommended books for ColdFusion MX / Flash MX?

[Chris Kief]

And when you really get going with it, pick up OOP with AS by Branden Hall
and Samuel Wan (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735711836).
This is definitely a must have for advanced AS development and covers a
variety of topic including classes, inheritance, design patterns, component
development...just to name a few.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Massimo, Tiziana e Federica [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 11:40 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Recommended books for ColdFusion MX / Flash MX?

 Check out Inside Flash MX by Jody Keating (excellent book). Also
Reality
 Cold Fusion by Ben Forta is a good example based book. I would also
 recommend Actionscript, The Developers Guide from O'Reilly.

Excellent list, I would keep an eye on an upcoming title from O'Reilly:

Flash Remoting MX: The Definitive Guide
by Tom Muck
Paperback - 400 pages (August 2003)
O'Reilly
ISBN: 059600401X


Massimo Foti
Certified Dreamweaver MX Developer
Certified Advanced ColdFusion MX Developer
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RE: Java development risk? (was: log4j problem migrating J2SE app)

[Chris Kief]

Right, you were able to replace 1.3 with 1.4. But Dave is unable to do this
with log4j. If he uses 1.1.3 it breaks his code. If he uses 1.2.7 it breaks
CFMX. Only one version can be used at any one time. Sean summed it up as:

What you've got here are two Java applications running on the same JVM 
that require different versions of the same library - and the library 
itself has changed its API. If you're going to point a finger of blame 
at some component of this, you could reasonably pick the library 
(log4j) for breaking the contract (API) it had with its users.

chris



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Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 12:32 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Java development risk? (was: log4j problem migrating J2SE app)

Forgive me if I am off track here, but isn't this what the classpath
is for? For example, MX comes with Javamail 1.3, but I installed 1.4
and just edited the classpath to include the javamail jar at the
beginning and MX used 1.4...


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RE: CFC Remote Access

[Chris Kief]

This makes sense. When I do the test
http://www1.yoursite.com/flashservices/gateway I get a blank page (which
is correct) and when I try
http://www1.yoursite.com/jhg/misc/flashservices/gateway I get a 404
error (which means you don't have access). The notes say to:

That's not how the gateway works - it remains in the same location at all
times. For example, let's say you have a server hosting 2 sites: foo.com 
bar.com. Once properly configured, the gateway will be available at
http://www.foo.com/flashservices/gateway 
http://www.bar.com/flashservices/gateway.

Now let's say you're trying to invoke a cfc below the webroot of foo.com
(ie. http://www.foo.com/cfc/test.cfc). You're actionscript would look like:

NetServices.setDefaultGatewayURL(http://www.foo.com/flashservices/gateway;)
;
conn = NetServices.createGatewayConnection();
testService = conn.getService(cfc.test, this);
testService.doSomeMethod();


When I run Remove_All_connectors.bat it initializes in a cmd prompt
and says This will remove all CFMX Webserver Connectors. Press any key
to continue. When I hit any key it says: The system cannot find the
path specified. Press any key to continue. I hit another key and the
command line window closes. I don't think it completed it's mission, but
if I then try IIS_connector.bat it does a bunch of stuff and then says
This Webserver is already configured for JRUN.

This is a strange one. Are you running Updater 3? What web server? How many
sites are configured on it? (sorry if you posted this stuff already...)

chris


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RE: Is Flash really THAT good?

[Chris Kief]

CF_UsabilitySoapBox

Well, this is quibbling over minor differences and word definitions.  And I
know I'm blowing against the wind here, but the simple fact is that users
know what to do with blue, underlined text and HTML buttons.  Why deviate
from something that users know?  It only makes it harder for them and
increases the likelihood that they won't use your site--unless they have no
place else to go.  Here is the key phrase in your post:

 effective because users are familiar

That is the heart of the matter.


Ahh...the beautiful blue link...

If that's in your project requirements...Flash is definitely not holding you
back...

Quick example...with and without CSS style rollover...

http://www.riseinteractive.com/cftalk/

chris


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RE: Is Flash really THAT good?

[Chris Kief]

Guess you missed it...

http://www.riseinteractive.com/cftalk/

chris


-Original Message-
From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 12:46 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is Flash really THAT good?

I demand proof!

--
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Friday, June 20, 2003, 3:33:24 PM, you wrote:
MC I just want to make sure that everyone understands:

MC You can have blue links in Flash.

MC mike chambers

MC [EMAIL PROTECTED]

MC - Original Message -
MC From: Matthew Small [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MC To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MC Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 3:32 PM
MC Subject: RE: Is Flash really THAT good?


 Just jumping in here...

 It sure would be a dull world if nothing evolved.  If that were true, we
 would not have nice cars (they would all be horseless carriages) and
 houses would be caves.

 We use new things because the technology becomes available.  Some uses
 are good, some are bad.  There are plenty of bad sites written in HTML,
 so should we not use HTML?  Nope, the answer is to intelligently design
 our web sites.  The fact is, RIA is going to become the norm within ten
 years because it will make the user experience easier, more
 aesthetically pleasing, and more functional with fewer client errors on
 the server end.

 Sure, blue links are standard, but people like flash. (no pun intended)



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RE: Is Flash really THAT good?

[Chris Kief]

I don't think that's really a fair comparison. In an application interface,
the application developer should be in control. The developer should be
able
to guide and constrain the user of the application. We take this for
granted
with non-HTML applications. Why should we expect web applications to behave
like documents? Why should we limit web applications to what documents can
present?

Extremely good point Dave. This certainly makes the case for why Flash
should support customization of the right-click menu.

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RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

[Chris Kief]

Are you running CFMX with Updater 3 installed?

chris



-Original Message-
From: Allan Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:56 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

I downloaded the Babelfish sample application source
code from the macromedia website:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/flashremoting/consuming_ws_using_cf
mx/

Extracted the code in my CFMX wwwroot folder. Opened
the file: Babelfish.fla in Flash MX, brought up the
NetConnectionDebugger and exported the flash movie.
For those of you who have downloaded this sample
application, when I click on the 'Translate' button, I
get the following error.

DebugId: 0
EventType: Status
MovieUrl: file:///D|/CFusionMX/wwwroot/Flash And
Remoting/cfmx_flashmx_webservice/babelfish.swf
Protocol: http
Source: Client
Time: 1055776690024
Date (object #1)
.Mon Jun 16 16:18:10 GMT+0100 2003
Status (object #2)
.code: SERVER.PROCESSING
.description: Service threw an exception during
method invocation: No service named
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
is known to Flash Remoting MX.
.details:
flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException: No
service named
http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
is known to Flash Remoting MX.
at
flashgateway.filter.AdapterFilter.invoke(AdapterFilter.java:251)
at
flashgateway.filter.SecurityFilter.invoke(SecurityFilter.java:84)
at
flashgateway.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(LicenseFilter.java:58)
at
flashgateway.filter.ErrorFilter.invoke(ErrorFilter.java:44)
at
flashgateway.filter.LogFilter.invoke(LogFilter.java:43)
at
flashgateway.filter.BatchProcessFilter.invoke(BatchProcessFilter.java:63)
at
flashgateway.filter.DebugFilter.invoke(DebugFilter.java:38)
at
flashgateway.filter.SerializationFilter.invoke(SerializationFilter.java:59)
at flashgateway.Gateway.invoke(Gateway.java:194)
at
flashgateway.controller.GatewayServlet.service(GatewayServlet.java:56)
at
javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
at
jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
at
jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
at
jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:226)
at
jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
at
jrun.servlet.http.WebService.invokeRunnable(WebService.java:172)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:348)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:45
1)
at
jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:2
94)
at
jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)

.level: error
.type:
flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException

The gateway connection is : myService =
gateway_conn.getService(http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.w
sdl;,
this);

Its not just this example, any exmaple that uses a
wsdl to connect to webservice fails. I can however
connect to a webservice if I use a cfc, for ex:
googleService =
gateway_conn.getService(google_search.googleService,
this);

I read this article on the macromedia site:
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/enable_flash_webs
ervices.htm

What is says is that by default access from Macromedia
Flash to web services using the Flash Gateway is
disabled by default in ColdFusion MX Updater 3. I did
exactly what it said in there to enable access and now
I get a different error: NetConnection.Call.BadVersion
error.

I don't understand why this is disabled in the first
place. I have updater 3 installed and the webserver is
IIS on win2k

I would appreciate your help

Regards,
Allan

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RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

[Chris Kief]

With Updater 3, Macromedia disabled the use of web services through the
Flash Remoting gateway in CFMX. Remoting with CFCs works just fine
still...just web services are off. You'll need to re-enable them...see this
technote (watch for wrapping):

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/enable_flash_webse
rvices.htm

Let me know how that goes for you...chris



-Original Message-
From: Allan Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:11 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

Yes I have Updater 3 installed

--- Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Are you running CFMX with Updater 3 installed?

 chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Allan Clarke
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:56 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Remoting - Access from Flash to web
 services - BabelFish
 
 I downloaded the Babelfish sample application
 source
 code from the macromedia website:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/flashremoting/consuming_ws_using_c
f
 mx/
 
 Extracted the code in my CFMX wwwroot folder.
 Opened
 the file: Babelfish.fla in Flash MX, brought up the
 NetConnectionDebugger and exported the flash movie.
 For those of you who have downloaded this sample
 application, when I click on the 'Translate'
 button, I
 get the following error.
 
 DebugId: 0
 EventType: Status
 MovieUrl: file:///D|/CFusionMX/wwwroot/Flash And
 Remoting/cfmx_flashmx_webservice/babelfish.swf
 Protocol: http
 Source: Client
 Time: 1055776690024
 Date (object #1)
 .Mon Jun 16 16:18:10 GMT+0100 2003
 Status (object #2)
 .code: SERVER.PROCESSING
 .description: Service threw an exception
 during
 method invocation: No service named

http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
 is known to Flash Remoting MX.
 .details:
 flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException: No
 service named

http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
 is known to Flash Remoting MX.
 at

flashgateway.filter.AdapterFilter.invoke(AdapterFilter.java:251)
 at

flashgateway.filter.SecurityFilter.invoke(SecurityFilter.java:84)
 at

flashgateway.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(LicenseFilter.java:58)
 at

flashgateway.filter.ErrorFilter.invoke(ErrorFilter.java:44)
 at

flashgateway.filter.LogFilter.invoke(LogFilter.java:43)
 at

flashgateway.filter.BatchProcessFilter.invoke(BatchProcessFilter.java:63)
 at

flashgateway.filter.DebugFilter.invoke(DebugFilter.java:38)
 at

flashgateway.filter.SerializationFilter.invoke(SerializationFilter.java:59
)
 at flashgateway.Gateway.invoke(Gateway.java:194)
 at

flashgateway.controller.GatewayServlet.service(GatewayServlet.java:56)
 at

javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
 at

jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
 at

jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
 at

jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:226)
 at

jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
 at

jrun.servlet.http.WebService.invokeRunnable(WebService.java:172)
 at

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.jav
a
 :348)
 at

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:4
5
 1)
 at

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:
2
 94)
 at

jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
 
 .level: error
 .type:
 flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException
 
 The gateway connection is : myService =

gateway_conn.getService(http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.
w
 sdl;,
 this);
 
 Its not just this example, any exmaple that uses a
 wsdl to connect to webservice fails. I can however
 connect to a webservice if I use a cfc, for ex:
 googleService =

gateway_conn.getService(google_search.googleService,
 this);
 
 I read this article on the macromedia site:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/enable_flash_web
s
 ervices.htm
 
 What is says is that by default access from
 Macromedia
 Flash to web services using the Flash Gateway is
 disabled by default in ColdFusion MX Updater 3. I
 did
 exactly what it said in there to enable access and
 now
 I get a different error:
 NetConnection.Call.BadVersion
 error.
 
 I don't understand why this is disabled in the
 first
 place. I have updater 3 installed and the webserver
 is
 IIS on win2k
 
 I would appreciate your help
 
 Regards,
 Allan
 
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RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

[Chris Kief]

Whoops...sorry bout that...got to the stack trace and stopped reading :)

Not sure what that bad version error is...

chris



-Original Message-
From: Allan Clarke [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:23 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web services - BabelFish

I did that, you probably didn't read my original
thread :). I now get an error,
'NetConnection.Call.BadVersion'. This is way out of my
hands, I have tried everything to fix this, but keep
getting a error.


--- Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 With Updater 3, Macromedia disabled the use of web
 services through the
 Flash Remoting gateway in CFMX. Remoting with CFCs
 works just fine
 still...just web services are off. You'll need to
 re-enable them...see this
 technote (watch for wrapping):


http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/enable_flash_webs
e
 rvices.htm

 Let me know how that goes for you...chris



 -Original Message-
 From: Allan Clarke
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 9:11 AM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: RE: Remoting - Access from Flash to web
 services - BabelFish
 
 Yes I have Updater 3 installed
 
 --- Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Are you running CFMX with Updater 3 installed?
 
  chris
 
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Allan Clarke
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 8:56 AM
  To: CF-Talk
  Subject: Remoting - Access from Flash to web
  services - BabelFish
  
  I downloaded the Babelfish sample application
  source
  code from the macromedia website:
 

http://www.macromedia.com/support/flash/flashremoting/consuming_ws_using_
c
 f
  mx/
  
  Extracted the code in my CFMX wwwroot folder.
  Opened
  the file: Babelfish.fla in Flash MX, brought up
 the
  NetConnectionDebugger and exported the flash
 movie.
  For those of you who have downloaded this sample
  application, when I click on the 'Translate'
  button, I
  get the following error.
  
  DebugId: 0
  EventType: Status
  MovieUrl: file:///D|/CFusionMX/wwwroot/Flash
 And
  Remoting/cfmx_flashmx_webservice/babelfish.swf
  Protocol: http
  Source: Client
  Time: 1055776690024
  Date (object #1)
  .Mon Jun 16 16:18:10 GMT+0100 2003
  Status (object #2)
  .code: SERVER.PROCESSING
  .description: Service threw an exception
  during
  method invocation: No service named
 

http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
  is known to Flash Remoting MX.
  .details:
  flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException: No
  service named
 

http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService.wsdl
  is known to Flash Remoting MX.
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.AdapterFilter.invoke(AdapterFilter.java:251)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.SecurityFilter.invoke(SecurityFilter.java:84)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.LicenseFilter.invoke(LicenseFilter.java:58)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.ErrorFilter.invoke(ErrorFilter.java:44)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.LogFilter.invoke(LogFilter.java:43)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.BatchProcessFilter.invoke(BatchProcessFilter.java:63)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.DebugFilter.invoke(DebugFilter.java:38)
  at
 

flashgateway.filter.SerializationFilter.invoke(SerializationFilter.java:5
9
 )
  at flashgateway.Gateway.invoke(Gateway.java:194)
  at
 

flashgateway.controller.GatewayServlet.service(GatewayServlet.java:56)
  at
 

javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java:853)
  at
 

jrun.servlet.ServletInvoker.invoke(ServletInvoker.java:91)
  at
 

jrun.servlet.JRunInvokerChain.invokeNext(JRunInvokerChain.java:42)
  at
 

jrun.servlet.JRunRequestDispatcher.invoke(JRunRequestDispatcher.java:226)
  at
 

jrun.servlet.ServletEngineService.dispatch(ServletEngineService.java:527)
  at
 

jrun.servlet.http.WebService.invokeRunnable(WebService.java:172)
  at
 

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$DownstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.ja
v
 a
  :348)
  at
 

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$ThreadThrottle.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java:
4
 5
  1)
  at
 

jrunx.scheduler.ThreadPool$UpstreamMetrics.invokeRunnable(ThreadPool.java
:
 2
  94)
  at
 

jrunx.scheduler.WorkerThread.run(WorkerThread.java:66)
  
  .level: error
  .type:
  flashgateway.adapter.NoSuchServiceException
  
  The gateway connection is : myService =
 

gateway_conn.getService(http://www.xmethods.net/sd/2001/BabelFishService
.
 w
  sdl;,
  this);
  
  Its not just this example, any exmaple that uses
 a
  wsdl to connect to webservice fails. I can
 however
  connect to a webservice if I use a cfc, for ex:
  googleService =
 

gateway_conn.getService(google_search.googleService,
  this);
  
  I read this article on the macromedia site:
 

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/enable_flash_we
b
 s
  ervices.htm
  
  What is says is that by default access from
  Macromedia
  Flash to web services using the Flash Gateway is
  disabled by default in ColdFusion MX Updater 3.
 I
  did
  exactly what it said in there to enable access

RE: CF Compatability

[Chris Kief]

Huh? You believe they should give the fruits of their hard work to others
for free? You're kidding right??

chris



-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 12:23 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Compatability

Among others, Introducing the technology to new implementers,  provide a
pathway
for a start up to build experience and follow an upgrade path that will be
profitable.

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Subject: CF Compatability


| What's the incentive to give away CF, the test suites or the language to
New
Atalnta and others?
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RE: CF Compatability

[Chris Kief]

And there is a FREE trial download of CFMX...what's your point?

chris



-Original Message-
From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:27 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Compatability

perhaps a better choice of words should have been customers

Trial versions and free limited versions have been a part of the software
business all along, right?

This is how you introduce your product, especially if it introduces new
technology to a market that has not used it before.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:37 PM
Subject: RE: CF Compatability


| By new implementers do you mean someone who would be competing against
MM
| for server sales?
|
| Ken
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:23 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CF Compatability
|
|
| Among others, Introducing the technology to new implementers,  provide a
| pathway
| for a start up to build experience and follow an upgrade path that will
be
| profitable.
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| Subject: CF Compatability
|
|
| | What's the incentive to give away CF, the test suites or the language
to
| New
| Atalnta and others?
| |
| |
|
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RE: CF Compatability

[Chris Kief]

I've read the whole thread and sorry, I'm just not following your argument.
Can you please clarify??

Damon's original post to which you responded concerned competitors while you
seem to be addressing customers. So that leaves me slightly confused...

chris



-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 4:44 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CF Compatability

Read the whole thread, and you will have your answer.

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To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 5:37 PM
Subject: RE: CF Compatability


| And there is a FREE trial download of CFMX...what's your point?
|
| chris
|
|
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:27 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: CF Compatability
| 
| perhaps a better choice of words should have been customers
| 
| Trial versions and free limited versions have been a part of the
software
| business all along, right?
| 
| This is how you introduce your product, especially if it introduces new
| technology to a market that has not used it before.
| 
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| 
| - Original Message -
| From: Ken Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 2:37 PM
| Subject: RE: CF Compatability
| 
| 
| | By new implementers do you mean someone who would be competing
against
| MM
| | for server sales?
| |
| | Ken
| |
| |
| | -Original Message-
| | From: Doug White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 3:23 PM
| | To: CF-Talk
| | Subject: Re: CF Compatability
| |
| |
| | Among others, Introducing the technology to new implementers,  provide
a
| | pathway
| | for a start up to build experience and follow an upgrade path that
will
| be
| | profitable.
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| | - Original Message -
| | From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| | Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2003 12:41 PM
| | Subject: CF Compatability
| |
| |
| | | What's the incentive to give away CF, the test suites or the
language
| to
| | New
| | Atalnta and others?
| | |
| | |
| |
| |
| 
|

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RE: What database to use???

[Chris Kief]

Just to clear something up here...are you giving your users direct access to
the database (ie. they're writing ad-hoc SQL statements)? Or are they
working with the data via a CF application?

chris




-Original Message-
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:53 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What database to use???

Well, I have a couple of different situations going on. In the one case I
will probably keep sole access, alhough gee, I can envision cases where it
would be nice to have a volunteer doing data entry, so I would like to
idiotproof it and make this possible.

In the other case, we would be talking about the customer :) and I hope to
hand him the keys to this thing and walk away. It would be nice if it did
not break for a reasonable time thereafter.

In neither case are we talking about people who are computer literate. At
all. So I guess my next question is, would crashing any/all of these
*require* computer knowledge and, as you put it, destructive tendencies?

Dana


 The real question is, why would you give somebody you don't trust access
 to your data in the first place?

 Jochem



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RE: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home

[Chris Kief]

You need to enable trusted connections for your SQL server. Refer to this
technote for more info:

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/tn18245.htm

I would suggest not using trusted connections if that's possible in order to
take advantage of the JDBC drivers.

Hope that helps,
chris



-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home

And since the first email, I've added a password to my User account in
WinXP
and I'm running the 3 cfmx services as my logon, and it is still telling my
that the dsn is Not associated with a trusted SQL Server connection. when
i create it in the CFMX admin, and use my SQL sa account and password-

Tyler

- Original Message -
From: Dave Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


have you set your permission to share in XP home?



- Original Message -
From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:23 PM
Subject: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


 I know this should be very easy, but I need help (and quickly!
(...please)):

 I've set up CFMX on my WinXP Home laptop, and I also set up MSDE/SQL
Server and I get a User not on a trusted connection when I try to create
a
SQL datasource in CF Administrator.  I think I need to run CFMX as a user,
so that it SQL will accept the connection, but I have no idea how to do
this.

 I've searched everything (cf talk's archive, google, macromedia, etc) for
the last 30/45 minutes and I can't find squat on how to do this on WinXP
home.

 I don't have any passwords on the laptop, just on the SQL server.  I've
tried running the CFMX service as my account, but I do not have a password,
so when I leave it blank and hit Apply; it does not throw an error, it
just says that next time the service starts it will log in as the given
account...blah blah blah.  But when I restart the service, it rejects me
because of the logon.

 Any help would be greatly appreciated...this should be relatively
painless-

 Tyler





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RE: What database to use???

[Chris Kief]

So then you probably don't need to worry since you are in control of all the
SQL statements :)

chris



-Original Message-
From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:07 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: What database to use???

working with data via a cf application.

Dana


On Sat, 14 Jun 2003 13:02:20 -0700, Chris Kief [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Just to clear something up here...are you giving your users direct access
 to
 the database (ie. they're writing ad-hoc SQL statements)? Or are they
 working with the data via a CF application?

 chris




 -Original Message-
 From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 12:53 PM
 To: CF-Talk
 Subject: Re: What database to use???

 Well, I have a couple of different situations going on. In the one case
 I
 will probably keep sole access, alhough gee, I can envision cases where
 it
 would be nice to have a volunteer doing data entry, so I would like to
 idiotproof it and make this possible.

 In the other case, we would be talking about the customer :) and I hope
 to
 hand him the keys to this thing and walk away. It would be nice if it
 did
 not break for a reasonable time thereafter.

 In neither case are we talking about people who are computer literate.
 At
 all. So I guess my next question is, would crashing any/all of these
 *require* computer knowledge and, as you put it, destructive tendencies?

 Dana


 The real question is, why would you give somebody you don't trust
 access
 to your data in the first place?

 Jochem





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RE: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home

[Chris Kief]

You may want to look into switching it to mixed mode authentication:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=319930#6

chris



-Original Message-
From: Tyler Silcox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 1:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home

Hehe...yea, and WinXP's ODBC Data Source Administrator and Enterprise
Manager are hitting it fine-

Tyler

btw: I hope it does turn out to be something silly, just as long as it
turns
out soon-

- Original Message -
From: Dave Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


maybe a silly ? but is your db running?


- Original Message -
From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


 Yea...CFMX developer edition on WinXP home, served up from CF's built in
 server-

 Tyler

 - Original Message -
 From: Dave Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 4:11 PM
 Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


 sorry, wasnt thinking as usual, I was thinking xp pro  IIS
 but it still could be an issue, chris maybe right though
 but heres a link to try if his suggestions doesnt pan out


http://www.macromedia.com/support/ultradev/ts/documents/understanding_ntfs.
h
 tm



 - Original Message -
 From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:58 PM
 Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home


  Where's (and what's) that?
 
  Tyler
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Dave Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:48 PM
  Subject: Re: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home
 
 
  have you set your permission to share in XP home?
 
 
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Tyler Silcox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2003 3:23 PM
  Subject: Setting up user for CFMX for MSSQL on WinXP home
 
 
   I know this should be very easy, but I need help (and quickly!
  (...please)):
  
   I've set up CFMX on my WinXP Home laptop, and I also set up MSDE/SQL
  Server and I get a User not on a trusted connection when I try to
create
 a
  SQL datasource in CF Administrator.  I think I need to run CFMX as a
user,
  so that it SQL will accept the connection, but I have no idea how to do
  this.
  
   I've searched everything (cf talk's archive, google, macromedia, etc)
 for
  the last 30/45 minutes and I can't find squat on how to do this on
WinXP
  home.
  
   I don't have any passwords on the laptop, just on the SQL server.
I've
  tried running the CFMX service as my account, but I do not have a
 password,
  so when I leave it blank and hit Apply; it does not throw an error,
it
  just says that next time the service starts it will log in as the given
  account...blah blah blah.  But when I restart the service, it rejects
me
  because of the logon.
  
   Any help would be greatly appreciated...this should be relatively
  painless-
  
   Tyler
  
  
  
 
 




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OT: Royale Info Online

[Chris Kief]

Thanks to Mesh for posting this link to his blog...

http://www.macromedia.com/special/royale/

Royale is the internal code name for a new initiative at Macromedia that
will address the requirements of enterprise programmers who want to develop
rich client applications. Rich client applications combine the
responsiveness and richness of desktop software with the broad reach of web
applications to deliver a more effective end-user experience. Royale will
deliver a standards-based, declarative, JSP-style programming methodology
and workflow, as well as runtime services for developing and deploying the
presentation tier of rich client applications.

Cheers,
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RE: SQL Question - Could CF make this easier?

[Chris Kief]

Jillian,

Another thing you may run across is the situation where you don't know
what's going to be in that list because it's being generated by another
query. In that case, the trick is to use a sub-query like so:

SELECT DISTINCT Description
FROMVCT
WHERE   description NOT IN (SELECT something FROM SomethingElse)
ORDER BY Description

chris



-Original Message-
From: Bryan Love [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: SQL Question - Could CF make this easier?

sure, the IN and NOT IN clauses are much faster than using multiple ANDs,
but don't transfer the load to CF - allow the DB to do what it's best at...

cfquery name=qCrop datasource=common_as
SELECT DISTINCT Description
FROM   VCT
WHERE  description NOT IN ('ANISE','APPLES','ASPARAGUS','BEETS','BROCCOLI')
ORDER BY Description
/cfquery

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  Macromedia Certified Professional
  Internet Application Developer
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Let's Roll
   - Todd Beamer, Flight 93



-Original Message-
From: Jillian Carroll [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 11:37 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: SQL Question - Could CF make this easier?


I am creating a drop-down list of items, but I want to keep several items
from appearing in the drop-down.

Is there a more efficient way to accomplish this (there will be several
more
exclusions):

cfquery name=qCrop datasource=common_as
SELECT DISTINCT
   Description
FROM   VCT
ORDER BY
   Description
WHERE  description != 'ANISE'
   AND description != 'APPLES'
   AND description != 'ASPARAGUS'
   AND description != 'BEETS'
   AND description != 'BROCCOLI'
/cfquery

--
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RE: Reinstalled everything... still not working...

[Chris Kief]

Which ColdFusion installer did you use? The same one as before or did you
download the latest one from Macromedia's website?

chris



-Original Message-
From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 12:56 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Reinstalled everything... still not working...

I backed up all of my data files, deleted Cold Fusion and JRun, and
reinstalled everything from scratch.  I first installed JRun 4, then the
JRun 4 service pack 1a updater.  Then I installed Cold Fusion, then the
Cold Fusion MX Updater 3.  All of the installations seemed to work fine,
with no error messages reported in any of the installation logs.

I also backed up and removed ${JRUN_HOME}/servers/lib/jrun_axis.jar since I
know from experience that the admin server won't start with that file in
place.

Launching the Admin server is a piece of cake.  I can launch the admin
server from the command line, then browse to the JMC on my webserver to
launch the Default server.

However, when I attempt to launch the default server, I receive the errors
which I've cut and pasted below.  The browser simply reports that the pages
are unavailable with an Object not found message.  HTML documents are
served up fine, which tells me that Apache is working properly.

Starting Macromedia JRun 4 (Build 54102), default server
06/10 12:51:15 info JRun Naming Service listening on *:2908
06/10 12:51:16 info No JDBC data sources have been configured for this
server (see jrun-resources.xml)
06/10 12:51:16 info JRun Web Server listening on *:8100
06/10 12:51:17 info Deploying enterprise application JRun 4.0 Internal
J2EE Components from: file:/space/usr/jrun4/lib/jrun-comp.ear
06/10 12:51:17 info Deploying EJB JRunSQLInvoker from:
file:/space/usr/jrun4/lib/jrun-comp.ear
06/10 12:51:18 info Deploying enterprise application Flash Remoting EAR
from: file:/space/usr/jrun4/lib/flashgateway.ear
06/10 12:51:18 info Deploying web application Flash Remoting from:
file:/space/usr/jrun4/lib/flashgateway.ear
06/10 12:51:18 user JSPServlet: init
06/10 12:51:19 user FlashGatewayServlet: init
Server default ready (startup time: 9 seconds)
06/10 12:51:20 info Deploying enterprise application default-ear from:
file:/space/usr/jrun4/servers/default/default-ear/
06/10 12:51:20 info Deploying web application JRun Default Web
Application from: file:/space/usr/jrun4/servers/default/default-ear/
06/10 12:51:22 info Web Services in default-ear#default-war:
06/10 12:51:22 info AdminService
06/10 12:51:22 user JSPServlet: init
06/10 12:51:22 info Deploying web application CFMX Application from:
file:/space/usr/jrun4/servers/default/cfusion/
06/10 12:51:23 error Error thrown in operation start
[1]java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/log4j/Layout
 at
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.Log4jFactory.getInstance(Log4jFactory.java:
153)
 at
org.apache.commons.logging.impl.LogFactoryImpl.getInstance(LogFactoryImpl.j
ava:283)
 at
org.apache.commons.logging.LogFactory.getLog(LogFactory.java:409)
 at
org.apache.axis.components.logger.LogFactory.getLog(LogFactory.java:77)
 at
org.apache.axis.ConfigurationException.clinit(ConfigurationException.java
:80)
 at
org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDService.deployTypeMapping(WSDDService.j
ava:516)
 at
org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDService.initTMR(WSDDService.java:636)
 at
org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDService.init(WSDDService.java:233)
 at
org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDDeployment.init(WSDDDeployment.java:2
42)
 at
org.apache.axis.deployment.wsdd.WSDDDocument.init(WSDDDocument.java:106)
 at
org.apache.axis.configuration.FileProvider.configureEngine(FileProvider.jav
a:209)
 at org.apache.axis.AxisEngine.init(AxisEngine.java:187)
 at org.apache.axis.AxisEngine.init(AxisEngine.java:172)
 at org.apache.axis.server.Axis06/10 12:51:23 user JSPServlet: init
Server.init(AxisServer.java:125)
 at jrunx.axis.AxisService.start(AxisService.java:158)
 at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Native Method)
 at
com.sun.management.jmx.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:1628)
 at
com.sun.management.jmx.MBeanServerImpl.invoke(MBeanServerImpl.java:1523)
 at
jrunx.kernel.ServiceAdapter.invokeMethod(ServiceAdapter.java:705)
 at
jrunx.kernel.JRunServiceDeployer.invokeOnServices(JRunServiceDeployer.java:
460)
 at
jrunx.kernel.ConfigurableServicePartition.startServices(ConfigurableService
Partition.java:196)
 at
jrunx.kernel.ConfigurableServicePartition.start(ConfigurableServicePartitio
n.java:178)
 at
jrun.servlet.WebApplicationService.start(WebApplicationService.java:225)
 at
jrun.deployment.DeployerService.initModules(DeployerService.java:710)
 at
jrun.deployment.DeployerService.createWatchedDeployment(DeployerService.jav
a:242)
 at
jrun.deployment.DeployerService.deploy(DeployerService.java:430)
 

RE: Is there a good way to do this?

[Chris Kief]

Why even create the temp variable??

cfset QuerySetCell(...)

chris



-Original Message-
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2003 1:14 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Is there a good way to do this?

You weren't too far off...

cfoutput query=getreg 
  cfloop index=i list=#columnlist#
cfset temp= QuerySetCell(getreg,i,
replace(getreg[i][currentrow],',
'',all),currentrow)
  /cfloop
/cfoutput

Sorry for the wrap...

 I need to replace all single quotes with double single
 quotes in all of the
 fields of a query.  I know that I could do it in a query
 but in this case I
 am opting not to.


 I have come up with this idea of but I am having a problem
 with the i[x]
 part.  Any ideas?

 cfoutput query=getreg 
  cfset x=0 
  cfloop index=i list=#columnlist#
  cfset temp= QuerySetCell(getreg, i, replace(i[x],',
  '',all), x ) 
  cfset x=x+1 
  /cfloop
 /cfoutput



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RE: cfform and cfide mapping

[Chris Kief]

http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion/ts/documents/cfform_multihomed.
htm

watch for url wrapping...

chris



-Original Message-
From: Tim Do [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 2:51 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: cfform and cfide mapping

I've tried to find out details on this but could find it in the archives..
can anybody tell me what I need to do to get cfform working on mx?

Thanks,

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RE: Permissions

[Chris Kief]

Ahh, you're using CFMX for JRun. You'll need to download the latest
installer from macromedia.

The installer you're using is most likely the 'phase 1' installer which
doesn't play well with JRun SP1a without some tweaking.

hope that helps,
chris




-Original Message-
From: Richard Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 4:36 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Permissions

Sorry, I thought I gave that information.

CF Code: Irrelevant. I could post more CF code, but since *ALL* CF code
throws the errors that I mentioned, it doesn't seem useful.  This is a
server error, as far as I can tell, not a coding error.

Version of MX: I'm afraid that I can't track down a release number in my
documentation or on my installation media.  The release date for my copy is
August 2002, so I assume it's pre-Updater 2.

Version of JRun: 4, Service Pack 1a.

OS: Solaris 9, all patches applied.

Webserver: Apache 2.0.45.  I've tried using the internal webserver that
listens on Port 8500, but I noticed no difference in performance.





At 07:20 PM 6/9/2003 -0400, you wrote:
You are, of course, free to do as you wish, but we need more information,
per Dave Watts' post, regarding your version of MX and whether or not
you're
using the internal web server or IIS/Apache, etc. There are a lot of
variables in an MX installation, and getting a feel for your exact setup
will help to diagnose what's going on. In addition to Dave's e-mail, what
OS
are you on? Windows? *nix?


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what not to post (WAS RE: Index 55, size 33)

[Chris Kief]

Come on...take this crap elsewhere...

chris


-Original Message-
From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 2:00 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Index 55, size 33

i hope u are not whacking it at the office! haha


- Original Message -
From: Justin Hansen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2003 4:53 PM
Subject: RE: Index 55, size 33


 yup, you will have to delete the class file in your
CFusionMX\wwwroot\WEB-INF\cfclasses dir to get it to work again.
 i usually search for the name and wack it.

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RE: Get the size of an image

[Chris Kief]

cfset imgFile =
createObject(java,javax.swing.ImageIcon).init(pathToImage)
cfset imgFile.getImage()
cfset imgWidth = imgFile.getIconWidth()
cfset imgHeight = imgFile.getIconHeight()

pathToImage should be the absolute path to the image.

Credit goes to Massimo Foti on this one...

chris



-Original Message-
From: Les Mizzell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2003 8:37 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Get the size of an image

I've got a data-driven photo gallery on a site that's working pretty good,
but I'd like to be able to dynamically switch between two or three
different
layouts, dependant on the pixel width or height of an image called from the
database, which has the link (myimage.jpg) in it. What I'm trying to do:
Images up to 300 pixels wide would have text descriptions to the right or
left. Images over 300 would have the text top/bottom instead...

Does anybody have any pointers to a method to dynamically determine the
width of an image, which I can then use in a cfswitch to call the
appropriate layout?


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RE: Missing Template Handler in CFMX not working

[Chris Kief]

Cameron,

Took a few tries for me to get this working as well...but here is what I
came up with:

- Place 404.cfm in the directory where / is mapped to. On my server / is
mapped to:
/opt/coldfusionmx/wwwroot.

- In the admin, use the following path for the template:
/404.cfm

That should do it for youchris



-Original Message-
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 5:20 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Missing Template Handler in CFMX not working

CFMX Linux UP2

I defined a missing template handler in the cfadmin, using a cfmapping for
the path - IE: /mysite/404.cfm.  I then deleted all the class files and
restarted cfusion (just for good measure).  Problem is, the missing
temaplte
handler doesn't seem to be taking hold at all.  Has anyone else seen this
behavior?  anyone have the missing template handler functioning on their
CFMX server?

Seems to be a pretty basic functionality, and have seen a high number of
posts in the forums about it not working, but none seem to explain why
people are having problems with it.

-Cameron


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RE: CFMX Updater 3 strange Install Issue (was Jrun ISAPI)

[Chris Kief]

The cfclasses directory will be recreated on the first page execution.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Brook Davies [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 8:35 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: CFMX Updater 3 strange Install Issue (was Jrun ISAPI)

Wow, I think I finally found the problem. When I ran the updater it deleted
the cfclasses dir. It renamed the old one cfclasses_backup (or something
close) but it never recreated the cfclasses folder. That could explain a
lot. FYI, the updater reported a successful install.

Brook

At 01:44 PM 4/3/2003 +1000, you wrote:
tony,
do you have an alarm on your system for overheating etc - sometimes they
come with alarms  stuff.

if you email me off list with your ip address i will do a port scan to see
what ports are open if that will help

steve soars
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

- Original Message -
From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2003 1:22 PM
Subject: RE: i think im gettin hacked


| i know it...but comcast also tells me that they have a lot of protection
| before my connection gets here...not too sure i believe that one...but i
| do
| netstat, and dont see anything connected to my machine?
|
| WTF?
|
| tw
|
| -Original Message-
| From: Dave Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:20 PM
| To: CF-Talk
| Subject: Re: i think im gettin hacked
|
|
| tony,
| are you spending too much time in the half pipe? lol
| btw~ the xp firewall is well.
| microsoft;)
| not to secure
|
| dave
| - Original Message -
| From: Tony Weeg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| To: CF-Talk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
| Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:14 PM
| Subject: sot: i think im gettin hacked
|
|
|  can anyone please tell me if you have
|  ever had a strange siren sound off on your
|  machine, outta nowhere...even after a restart...i dont
|  have lockdown or anything like that running, i do have
|  xp, and i do have my xp firewall enabled...
| 
|  thanks!
| 
|  tony
| 
|  tony weeg
|  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
|  www.revolutionwebdesign.com
|  rEvOlUtIoN wEb DeSiGn
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| 
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RE: CFMX Updater 3 Released

[Chris Kief]

For those of us managing remote servers over a not so fast connection,
downloading the updater to our local workstation and then uploading to the
server becomes quite a time consuming process.

chris



-Original Message-
From: Christian Cantrell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 2:34 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: CFMX Updater 3 Released

On Thursday, March 20, 2003, at 01:12 PM, Barney Boisvert wrote:

 Not to be an ass, but if MM doesn't provide a means to get the updater
 without Flash support (which isn't an option on GUI-less *nix
 installations,
 for example), then you're pretty much limited to illicit distribution
 or not
 getting the updater.  Of those two, the former seems like a far more
 reasonable choice.

This is certainly an issue, and as I posted earlier, I have submitted
the problem to the web team and they are aware of it.  However, it
doesn't seem that difficult to work around.  I have ColdFusion running
a couple Linux servers that do not have any type of graphical interface
or browser installed, so I just downloaded the updater to my
workstation and copied the updater to my servers.

Christian


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RE: Flash Remoting SP1 Available

[Chris Kief]

After looking through the available downloads - it appears there *is not* a
server-side update for ColdFusion MX.

From the installation instructions:
This Updater is for Flash Remoting MX for .NET and Java and the Flash
Remoting Components. For updates to Flash Remoting MX within ColdFusion MX,
see the ColdFusion Support site at
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion to get the appropriate
Updater.

There is no Flash Remoting Updater on the CF support site nor any mention of
one. Just want to confirm that there are no server-side Flash Remoting
updates for CF at this time.

Maybe someone at MM could see that the relevant information is added to the
CF support side directing customers as to what they need to do.

Thanks!
chris



-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Flash Remoting SP1 Available

Just a heads up for those who use Flash Remoting in any of their apps. I
noticed that SP1 was released today (March 10th) for download.

Any Macromedia people who see this, the current link to the Install
Instructions is broken.

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashremoting/downloads/components/

Regards,
Dave.


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RE: Flash Remoting SP1 Available

[Chris Kief]

Thanks for the confirmation Debbie!

chris


-Original Message-
From: Debbie Dickerson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:54 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash Remoting SP1 Available

Correct. There are no Flashing Remoting updates for CF at this point. It
will be included in the next release of the Updater.

Deb

-Original Message-
From: Chris Kief [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 3:42 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: Flash Remoting SP1 Available


After looking through the available downloads - it appears there *is not* a
server-side update for ColdFusion MX.

From the installation instructions:
This Updater is for Flash Remoting MX for .NET and Java and the Flash
Remoting Components. For updates to Flash Remoting MX within ColdFusion MX,
see the ColdFusion Support site at
http://www.macromedia.com/support/coldfusion to get the appropriate
Updater.

There is no Flash Remoting Updater on the CF support site nor any mention
of
one. Just want to confirm that there are no server-side Flash Remoting
updates for CF at this time.

Maybe someone at MM could see that the relevant information is added to the
CF support side directing customers as to what they need to do.

Thanks!
chris



-Original Message-
From: Dave Carabetta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2003 12:16 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: SOT: Flash Remoting SP1 Available

Just a heads up for those who use Flash Remoting in any of their apps. I
noticed that SP1 was released today (March 10th) for download.

Any Macromedia people who see this, the current link to the Install
Instructions is broken.

http://www.macromedia.com/software/flashremoting/downloads/components/

Regards,
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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine .

[Chris Kief]

Also, when JRun starts, it does a reverse lookup to match against your
local host name definition and compares it to the one in DNS, therefore,
your hostname must be set to your machines actual DNS entry. Otherwise JRun
will not start, and the connector will fail.

This seems to be the problem that Mike is having - JRun can't be found on
localhost when the reverse lookup is done - thus implying a dns
configuration error.

I'm not a dns guru by any means...so maybe someone on the list could
possibly post or direct us to some documentation on checking his dns
configuration.

chris


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RE: Still can't connect to IIs anyone know why?

[Chris Kief]

Thanks for your help, James, all went well following your procedure till
I got to step 8.  I double clicked the connector.bat file, and got the
following error message:

[quote]
File C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted\
[/quote]

Just to update folks on Mike's problem - the above message wasn't an actual
error, it was just wsconfig checking to see if it had extracted
jrunwin32.dll already to the wsconfig directory. Since he had run the
connector before, the file was already there - so there was no need to
extract the file again. This is normal behavior and *did not* mean that the
.dll file was the wrong one / out-of-date.

The next issue we discovered was dual mappings in IIS. The CF5 mappings were
not removed during the uninstall - this was definitely causing a couple
headaches :)

Once we pulled those out, we again tried running wsconfig.exe. When
attempting to add a new webserver, the GUI did not display a JRun instance
to select in the JRun Server drop down box. Upon inspecting the wsconfig.log
file, we found that wsconfig could not find an instance of Jrun listening on
localhost. This kind of stumped me as CFMX was running and jrun.exe /
jrunsvc.exe were both found in the current processes list.

Not wanting to spend too much time trying to figure out why JRun couldn't be
found, I recommended he just yank CFMX out again and start fresh now that we
had cleaned things up a bit.

Hopefully things go well this time for him!

Cheers,
chris


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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

[Chris Kief]

I have installed CFMX and can operate under the CFMX web server on port
8500.   That's cool. But I can't get it to connect to IIs, and the fault
is in the package I downloaded from Macromedia's site.  Don't tell me
different because I have seen it a dozen times now.

What happens is that the install package extracts a file called
jrunwin32.dll which gets a create timestamp as at the moment it's
extracted from the install package.  Later, when you need to connect to
IIs, the following message is logged when the connect routine aborts:

[quote]
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted
[/quote]

This means that none of the following events in that routine occurs,
including creating a folder called \1\ which is supposed to contain
jrun.dll. The file jrunwin32.dll is included in the download. It is
extracted by the install routine, which promptly falls over on its own
file.  THAT is a flaw in the install routine, surely. It's nothing to do
with my machine.  Isnt that correct? Or am I reading it wrong?  Surely
this is a fault in the package I downloaded from Macromedia.


Mike - please paste the rest of the log file from:

C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\wsconfig.log

As I stated last night in my email to the list, this is *NOT* an error. When
you run wsconfig.exe for the first time, this file is extracted. On
subsequent runs, it checks to see if the file has been extracted before, if
it has, it prints out the message above and moves on to check for the
existence of JRun on localhost. From what I saw last night, your actual
error is in the log file right below what you quoted above...so let's see
the entire contents of that log file :)

You can even delete the entire wsconfig directory
(C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\) if you wish! The connector will just
create a new one for you along with jrunwin32.dll the next time it is run.

So again, the quote above is *NOT* an error. It's completely normal
behavior.


However, jrun is actually running on my system.  I don't know why
because it didn't exist before the install of CFMX.

Correct - a version of JRun is installed as part of CFMX.


We'll get this sorted yet! :)
chris


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RE: This is DEFINITELY a faulty download file and install routine.

[Chris Kief]

[quote]
# Created by JRun on 09/03 12:17:02
09/03 12:17:02 info Macromedia JRun 4 (Build 47304)
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.name: Windows 2000
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.version: 5.1
09/03 12:17:02 debug os.arch: x86
09/03 12:17:02 debug platform: intel-win
09/03 12:17:02 debug web server: IIS
09/03 12:17:02 debug File
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted

---
everything is fine up to this point
---

The following is what is killing things:

09/03 12:17:03 error Could not connect to any JRun servers on host
localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstallerException: Could not connect
to any JRun servers on host localhost.
Confirm that the JRun server is started.
   at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.findServers(CIJndi.java:343)
   at jrunx.connectorinstaller.CIJndi.init(CIJndi.java:87)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.parseArgs(ConnectorInstaller
.java:153)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.init(ConnectorInstaller.ja
va:52)
   at
jrunx.connectorinstaller.ConnectorInstaller.main(ConnectorInstaller.java
:456)
[/quote]

The connector is unable to find JRun running on localhost - *even* though it
is running - as can be seen with the fact that he can use the stand alone
web server just fine.

Anyone else run across the above error before?

chris


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RE: Still can't connect to IIs anyone know why?

[Chris Kief]

Mike,

I'm feeling bad here. Lots of stress and still no positive results for you -
that sucks.

I believe I read you're on XP...if that's the case, send me an email
off-line and we can setup a remote assistance session and I'll walk you
through setting up CFMX. It's a rather complex beast the first time you work
with it. There are quite a few things that can go wrong - most of which are
very simple to fix once you've done it once (like most everything ;).

That's the best I can do!
chris



-Original Message-
From: Michael Kear [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 9:24 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Still can't connect to IIs anyone know why?

Thanks for your help, James, all went well following your procedure till
I got to step 8.  I double clicked the connector.bat file, and got the
following error message:

[quote]
File C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\jrunwin32.dll newer than JAR file
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig.jar so not extracted\
[/quote]

Therefore nothing following could work.  There is no \wsconfig\1 folder,
and therefore no contents there.

Why does the release package have an incompatible version of
jrunwin32.dll in it?  What are we supposed to do about that then?

It means the product, as delivered from the Macromedia site doesn't work
with IIs.

Anyone have any idea what to do about that?


Cheers,
Michael Kear
Windsor, NSW, Australia
AFP Webworks.





-Original Message-
From: James Blaha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2003 7:42 AM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: Re: Installation problem with MX - HELP!!

Below is an easy step-by-step configuration approach for windows web
server configuration. Applicable for IIS, Apache and iPlanet.  Please
ignore steps that do not apply.

1) Stop your web server.
2) Please uninstall CFMX,
3) Delete any registry key for HKLM\Software\Macromedia\ColdFusion,
4) Delete the CFusionMX_installdir and rename the CFIDE and CFDOCS
from your IIS webroot.
5) Reboot your machine.
6) On reinstalling CFMX, please use the stand alone webserver that came
with CFMX.
7) Try to access the CFMX Administrator on port 8500.
8) From your CFusionMX\Bin\Connectors folder, double click on the
particular connector you wish to work with CFMX.  If you receive an
error stating that Jrun is not started, please close the DOS window and
launch C:\CFusionMX\Bin\cfstart.bat then launch the web_connector.bat
again.
9) A directory C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1, should have been
created with jrun.dll for IIS, mod_jrun.so for Apache and
jrun_nsapi35.dll inside the 1 directory.
10) Please verify from your CF documentation on what entries should have
been created/inserted to Apache and Netscape conf files.  For IIS, there
might be a need to Map .cfm to
C:\CFusionMX\runtime\lib\wsconfig\1\jrun.dll in your IIS console.  To
apply the instruction, please go to START  SETTINGS  CONTROL PANEL 
ADMINISTRATIVE TOOLS  INTERNET SERVICES MANAGER.  Double click on the
computer icon/name. Right click on the Default website, or onto the
virtual site you need to define the mapping, and select properties.
Click on the Home Directory tab and click on the Configuration button.
This is where internet documents are mapped, by their extension, and
this is where you will need to apply Step # 10.
11) If you did not delete or rename your old CFIDE and CFDOCS folders
from your webroot, please rename/delete them now and copy the CFIDE and
CFDOCS folders from CFusionMX_installdir\wwwroot to your webroot.
12) Try launching the CFMX Administrator using the port of your web
server.

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RE: The New Macromedia Website

[Chris Kief]

You made some great points, but I'd like to elaborate on the culture
shock. This isn't culture shock for new technology, as web developers,
the only technology that can give us culture shock, is _old_ technology,
or the lack of change. The shock is the complete turn of stance by MM.

Macromedia has marketed Cold Fusion as the fastest and easiest way to
create dynamic web based applications. That's been the core of CF with
the philosophy of getting applications out the door fast, at a very low
cost.

How has this really changed though?? CF is *still* the fastest way to get
web apps out the door.


What's happens now, is that MM is saying the _complete_ opposite. They
are contradicting everything they have said, which quite frankly breeds
the mistrust I see popping up rapidly in the last few months.

I don't agree with this. I don't hear MM replacing one statement with
another. Rather, the RIA initiative is an *additional* statement.


In my research an RIA as defined by MM will cost 3-4 times more than a
common cold fusion application. Additionally it will take 2-3 times
longer in development. I believe it was Kevin Towes who said at devCon
that a successful RIA needs a team of at least 12 people, a drastic
contrast to the lone CF developer ideology MM has endorsed in selling
points.

If a prerequisite to all software development was the ability to produce
said software with one developer, we would probably be in a sad state of
affairs at the moment.

That being said, you *can* still produce CF web apps with one developer. But
if you would like to tackle larger, more complex projects such as RIAs, your
associated development time and costs will have to change accordingly. If
that wasn't the case, we'd all be building Amazon.com for $200.


Now, I totally agree that RIAs are the next generation. However, I think
Macromedia is getting to bold for its own good. As a web developer, if I
launched MM.com, I would feel it was a failure. Not only does this RIA
take more time, money and people to produce but now it has to be
'tweaked' just to get it to perform at a reasonable speed. Furthermore,
I think MM is still jumping the gun with broadband. I could never
implement something like this because I serve a worldwide audience. Only
a small percentage of people in the US have broadband, in countries like
Africa and Asia, the word broadband doesn't even exist.

I think it's a little too early to label the site a failure. Come on, it's
only been 1 day. Like any project, there will be bugs and other issues to
iron out. But I'm glad to see MM taking this step and pushing the limits of
what's possible on the web. It's only going to make my job easier in the
future as they will find and address problems with the development and
deployment of RIAs.

As for the broadband issue, that is a strategic decision by MM based on, I
would guess, massive amounts of data gathered from users of their site.
Obviously they felt that the majority of their customer base could handle
the requirements of the new website and moved ahead accordingly.


Fact of the matter is that instead of slowly warming the developer
community to these ideas, MM has thrown boiling water on them. This
backlash is a predictable outcome they should have seen coming.

Unfortunately this is just another bullet in the list of curveballs MM
has thrown its developers.

To be honest. I don't trust MM at all anymore, which is very daunting
being that I have only been listening to them since they bought Allaire.

boiling water...another bullet in the list of curveballs...come
on...please...it is *just* a website after all ;)

chris



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RE: New MM.com

[Chris Kief]

Overall, bandwidth use is not excessive (at least for my standards), but
the speed is not good either. Part of that appears to be due to the high
number of requests, part of that is that some requests take long on the
server, and part of that is probably that a Duron 800 is apparently not
fast enough anymore.

Not sure if you checked out the individual files but the homepage is broken
up into multiple swf and xml documents (I show 22 swf and 9 xml). To be
complete, there are also 1 html, 2 css, 3 js, and 11 gifs for a total of 48
files and 251KB.

I was speculating with a colleague that the poor performance that some
people were seeing had to do with the number of files being downloaded as
well as the fact that the Flash player needs to load and parse the 9 xml
files (although the player's xml handling is greatly improved in the latest
versions). Speed of the client machine probably has a direct impact on the
player's ability to do this efficiently and quickly.

I'll be curious to see if this structure changes in the future. I'm also
anxious to read Sean Corfield's articles on the architectural decisions
behind the site.

I'm hoping that MM publishes something along the lines of here's what we
decided to do first and then down the line here's what we found didn't
work and here's what we did to improve things. RIAs are pretty much
uncharted territory and I'm very interested in hearing their experiences in
building and tuning the site.

chris 


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