RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit

[jenny . mcleod]

OK, the thread's a bit dead now, but for anyone who's interested, Rick and I had
a bit of an offline discussion on this one.  Thought it might be of interest to
some (possibly even the original poster...)

JMcL

>
>
> Rick Burts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 20/07/2000 15:40:25
>
>
> To:   JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA@NOTES
> cc:
> Subject:  RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit
>
>
>
> One of the requirements/assumptions of OSPF Demand Circuit is that the
> routers can bring up the circuit to form a neighbor relationship, bring
> up the circuit to transmit state change LSAs (but not Hellos or periodic
> refresh) and bring up the circuit to transmit data as needed.
>
> I think that may make it less desirable as a backup strategy, though lots
> of people keep talking about Demand Circuit as a backup strategy.  If you
> want the ISDN as strictly backup and want to really minimize how often it
> is brought up, I think floating statics and a good dialer list would be
> better.
>
> Rick
>
> On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I had missed that bit of the config.  However, in my suggested solution, it
is
> > assumed that the link will come up more or less straight away anyway when
the
> > frame relay link dies due to other traffic triggering the ISDN link.  The
link
> > is only being used as a backup to the FR, according to the original post, so
I
> > don't think you'd want it triggered every time there is a topology change -
> the
> > other router should generally know about the change via the FR link anyway.
> >
> > I haven't dealt with OSPF demand circuits much, but perhaps it would be
better
> > to not make the ISDN link a demand circuit?  If the ISDN is only a backup to
> the
> > FR, does demand circuit gain anything over a well-constructed dialer list?
> >
> > JMcL
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Burts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 20/07/2000 11:19:55
> >
> >
> > To:   JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA@NOTES
> > cc:
> > Subject:  RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit
> >
> >
> >
> > One of the requirements of OSPF Demand Circuit is that any real LSA update
> > must be able to bring up the connection and transmit the update to the
> > neighbor.  (Hellos and periodic refresh are suppressed)  In your
> > suggested solution, how will a real state change LSA bring up the link
> > when you deny ospf any any ?
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > If we go right back to the question of 'what problem are you trying to
> solve'
> > (I
> > > think this has become the official groupstudy motto :-), everything is
> working
> > > fine except that the dialup link is triggering when it's not supposed to.
> > > So, following the other useful principle of KISS (Keep It Simple, S*),
> we
> > > shouldn't need to muck around with the routing protocols themselves.
> Passive
> > > interfaces and snapshot routing protocols are both (probably) overkill.
> > >
> > > How do you specify what brings up the link?  A dialer-list statement.  The
> > > original post didn't show what dialer-list is configured, and I haven't
seen
> > any
> > > posts stating the outcome of a 'dialer debug' or 'show dialer' (show
dialer
> > when
> > > the call is up will show what triggered the call), but OSPF updates do
sound
> > > like a likely candidate for what is triggering the link.
> > >
> > > So, assuming that investigation shows that it really is OSPF that's
causing
> > the
> > > ISDN to dial, we want the solution that will cause the least side effects
-
> > > don't forget that everything else is working fine now.
> > >
> > > Making a passive interface or introducing snapshot routing will stop (or
at
> > > least change) routing across the dialup link, which could cause other
> > problems.
> > > But if the dialer-list statement excludes OSPF, it won't stop OSPF across
> the
> > > link, it'll just stop it triggering dialup.
> > >
> > > Something like the following should help.  It may need changes depending
on
> > what
> > > the existing dialer-list is.
> > >
> > > access-list 101 deny   ospf any any
> > > access-list 101 permit ip any any
> > > dialer-list 1 protocol ip list 101
> > >
> > > JMcL
> > >
> > > -- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 20/07/2000
> 08:49
> > > ---
> > >
> > >
> > > "Ruslan S Tchinyakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 19/07/2000
19:12:04
> > >
> > > Please respond to "Ruslan S Tchinyakov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >
> > > To:   "'McCallum, Robert'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   "'Ruslan S Tchinyakov'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   "'Olden Pieterse'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >   "'Evan You'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
> > > Subject:  RE: OSPF On Demand Circuit
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Shapshot Routing is for DV protocols only!!
> > > It breaks OSPF and others LS protocols.
> > >
> > > Ruslan Tchinyakov,
> > > CCNP+Security, CCDP, MCSE
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: McCallum, Robert [m

Re: Masters degrees / distance learning

[NHK]

Lauren,

I'm working on my MSc in IT Management over here in Malaysia at one of the
IT college that is backup by
the Uni of Staffordshire. This might still consider as distance learning
which tooks 2 years to complete (normally
1 year full time at Staffordshire) with 8 modules and 1 thesis. To be frank
there are nothing technical in MSc even if
you are taking the software module, they are purely into the management.
So what is this master thingy to you?

Ryan





Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 24-07-2000 09:25:41 AM

Please respond to Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:(bcc: Ryan Ngai Hon Kong/GHL Technologies/MY)
Subject:  Masters degrees / distance learning





Hiya,

Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
distance learning?

TTFN
Lauren

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]   Lauren Child, BSc.  CCNP Certified
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Re: trial copy of ciscoworks

[Oladele Ayuba]

check out ftp.cisco.com and enjoy


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Re: Passed CCDP

[Bharat Suneja]

Congragulations Tim!

Yes, once you achieve a milestone, it's not as exciting any more... :-)  The
excitement lasts all of 2 days, maybe 3 if you've scored real good. I think
the real excitement comes if you get a better job based on your
certifications, if you get better projects because of your certifications,
if you get a raise because of those certifications. Certifications in
themselves probably aren't the goal - and we always tend to say - what next
?? :-)

I just finished my CCNA. Excited for a couple of days. Now thinking - what
next ? CCDA, CCNP, CCIE Checkpoint... :-)

Bharat Suneja

""CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in
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ch.com...
> I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I
passed
> CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP.
> I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new
> job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I
> would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am
> past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the
> excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of
my
> family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished.
> Does anyone else feel similar?
>
> Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP.
> I took the CCDP 2.0 path.
> Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not
much
> help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500
> switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc.
>
> April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult.
>
> June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN,
IPX
> and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP
> TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP.
>
> June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I
thought
> it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book.
>
> July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press
CID
> book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide.
> Know specs on ATM gear.
>
> I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands
> on will be good practice for CCIE.
>
> Thanks to the group for all of your posts.
>
> Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA
> Systems Design Engineer
> SBC DataComm
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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RE: ISDN interface problem

[jenny . mcleod]

Not sure (I haven't used BRI interfaces much), but I seem to remember that if an
ISDN interface is configured as a backup interface, it will be in standby mode
and cannot be used for anything else.
Is your BRI configured as a backup interface?  If so, what happens when the main
link is brought down?
Can anyone confirm or deny my hazy memory?

JMcL
-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 24/07/2000 14:44
---


Rik Guyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 22/07/2000 00:47:48

Please respond to Rik Guyler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


To:   Hans Stout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  "Cisco Groupstudy (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
cc:(bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject:  RE: ISDN interface problem



I also seem to remember from my studies awhile back, that you have to reboot
the router when changing the ISDN switch type to make the change take
effect.  Something like you'll see the change in the config, but the router
won't recognize it until the reboot.  Have you tried that?It rather
resembles a Microsoft product in this regard!  :-}

Maybe posting a "show config" would help determine why BRI0/0 is in standby
mode.

BTW Carrier Transitions are incremented each time your "call" changes state.
For example, when an active call gets disconnected (from timeout, bad
hardware, etc.), that activity will increment the Carrier Transition count
by one.  If you have DDR/BOD setup, this is a pretty typical thing.  If not,
then you either need to make a config change or you might have bad hardware
somewhere in the line.

Rik Guyler
Principal Consultant
Cardinal Solutions Group, Inc.
513.984.6700



-Original Message-
From: Hans Stout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2000 11:45 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: ISDN interface problem


Hi Larry,

thanks for your answer.
What exactly do you mean by enabling the interface first ?
My concern is that I do not see any lit LEDs on the interface. Can you tell
me what a status of standby/down means ? How can I get the interface in
up/up (spoofing) status ? Also, what do the carrier transitions mean ?
I include the output from the sh int command:

Ener_Erkath#sh int bri0/0
BRI0/0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
  Hardware is PQUICC BRI
  Internet address is 10.90.1.70/30
  MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely 255/255, load 1/255
  Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
  Last input never, output never, output hang never
  Last clearing of "show interface" counters never
  Input queue: 0/75/0 (size/max/drops); Total output drops: 0
  Queueing strategy: weighted fair
  Output queue: 0/1000/64/0 (size/max total/threshold/drops)
 Conversations  0/0/256 (active/max active/max total)
 Reserved Conversations 0/0 (allocated/max allocated)
  5 minute input rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
  5 minute output rate 0 bits/sec, 0 packets/sec
 0 packets input, 0 bytes, 0 no buffer
 Received 0 broadcasts, 0 runts, 0 giants, 0 throttles
 0 input errors, 0 CRC, 0 frame, 0 overrun, 0 ignored, 0 abort
 21139976 packets output, 2239721261 bytes, 0 underruns
 0 output errors, 0 collisions, 3 interface resets
 0 output buffer failures, 0 output buffers swapped out
 140 carrier transitions


>From: LARRY OSEI-KWAKU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: LARRY OSEI-KWAKU <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Hans Stout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: ISDN interface problem
>Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 05:10:29 -0700 (PDT)
>
>I think you will need to enable the interface first
>before you can set the switch type.
>
>Larry Osei
>Lodnon
>Uk
>--- Hans Stout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi there colleagues,
> >
> > I have a problem with my ISDN interface on a Cisco
> > 2610 router. I just had a
> > Telekom engineer at the site verify that the line is
> > ok to the interface,
> > but he cannot see any lights burning on the
> > intreface (B1 and B2 LEDs). When
> > I do a sh isdn status, I get the following:
> >
> > Ener_Erkath#sh isdn status
> > Global ISDN Switchtype = basic-net3
> > ISDN BRI0/0 interface
> > dsl 0, interface ISDN Switchtype =
> > basic-1tr6
> > Layer 1 Status:
> > DEACTIVATED
> > Layer 2 Status:
> > Layer 2 NOT Activated
> > Layer 3 Status:
> > 0 Active Layer 3 Call(s)
> > Activated dsl 0 CCBs = 0
> > The Free Channel Mask:  0x8003
> > Total Allocated ISDN CCBs = 0
> >
> > When I change the ISDN switchtype to basic-net3, it
> > doesn't change the
> > status of the ISDN.
> > Here is the output from the sh int bri0/0:
> >
> > Ener_Erkath#sh int bri0/0
> > BRI0/0 is standby mode, line protocol is down
> >   Hardware is PQUICC BRI
> >   Internet address is 10.90.1.70/30
> >   MTU 1500 bytes, BW 64 Kbit, DLY 2 usec, rely
> > 255/255, load 1/255
> >   Encapsulation PPP, loopback not set
> >   Last input never, output never, output hang never
> >   Last clearing of "show interface" counters neve

RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[William E Gragido]

I have a friend that teaches for the Regional Cisco Academy here in the
Chicago land area.  He told me that they are expnading and planning on
teaching the CCNP courses as well as CCDP.  Thats pretty cool for those who
wish to take advantage of it.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dale Cantrell
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:53 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
>
>
> Yes indeed! Community Colleges with Cisco Networking Academies are
> expanding. This year some are starting/offering CCNP programs
> starting with
> ACRC. I'm registering tomorrow for the fall semester, at a college
> 15 miles away. Only downside is you must have completed the first four
> modules (two a semester) or have attained the CCNA certification. Ten
> routers and two switches, for three months, for $145...WOOHOOO!!!
> Four hours
> college credit also.
> ACRC...Yes I know. I beleive they said  they would work off of notes or
> something. This ought to be good!? :>)
>
> Dale CCNA
>
> Original Message Follows
> From: "William E Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: "William E Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
> Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:01:35 -0500
>
> Good question, I have never heard of it.  However I think it would work if
> the institution(i.e. School/College/University) was/is an accredited
> educational institute.  Check with the VA reps at the your local JCs and
> Universities/Colleges.  Some are Cisco Academies as well.
>
>  > -Original Message-
>  > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>  > Brian
>  > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:32 PM
>  > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  > Subject: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
>  > Cisco Training or Certifications?
>  >
>  > Brian
>  >
>  > -
>  > Brian Feeny, CCNA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: Very good web site for CCNA

[Clayton Dukes]

There is also a plethora of Cisco Cheat Sheets/Study Guides at
http://www.gdd.net/cisco



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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:13 PM
Subject: Very good web site for CCNA


> Dear all,
>
> Take a look at this site. There is a whole book of CCNA material written
by
> a CCIE,
>
> http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm
> 
>
>
>
>
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firewall

[Jim Bond]

Hello,

Can someone tell me what's the difference between IOS
firewall and PIX, besides one is software, one is
hardware?

Thanks in advance.


Jim

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Re: Masters degrees / distance learning

[whatshakin]

I'd like to interject a little if I may.  Having all cert related
credentials will certainly open the doors to decent money and better and
better opportunities in the IT related field.  All certs and no degree
however, (in most cases) is probably going to limit one's potential for
growth opportunities.  To expound on his further, having a degree and
numerous certifications in the same discipline (IT in this case) could also
hamper ones long term potential growth opportunities!  I am referring to the
possibility of moving into management positions in this case.  Here the lack
of business related skills could draw many obstacles to which overcoming
them may prove difficult.  It seems logical that a combination of both
technical and business skills/certs will provide one with the best platform
onto which you could build a solid career.  Unfortunately, with bachelor
degree's becoming almost a commodity these days, you may soon need to set
yourself above the crowd with a graduate degree and high level certs of
sorts.  I dare say the folks with a MBA and CCIE will soon find themselves
running the businesses of tomorrow.




- Original Message -
From: JohnMail <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 2:56 PM
Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning


> TTFN:
>
> Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is
prepared
> to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx.  My guess is that the vast majority of people
> with "Certs only",  plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very
> long time to come.
>
> At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing
> the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term.  And this is where a graduate degree
> will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial
positions.
> The higher levels of formal education will enable to  do much than mere
> networking stuff.  I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and
> perfect your PRESENTATION skills.
>
> So far I have completed one graduate program -  MBA.  I also have MCSE and
> CCNA.  I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP.  I do this
> because learning is fun to me.
>
>
> Go for Gold!
>
>
>
>
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM
> Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning
>
>
> >
> > Hiya,
> >
> > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
> > Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
> > masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
> > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
> > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
> > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
> > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
> > distance learning?
> >
> > TTFN
> > Lauren
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Lauren Child, BSc.  CCNP Certified
> > http://www.laurenchild.net/  http://www.routerfaq.net/
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RE: Passed CCDP

[Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1]

Congrats Timothy!

I have a question or two about the DA/DP track vice the CA/CP track.

It seems to me that CCDA is a useful, yet seemingly quick and dirty
certification to obtain. The groundwork for it - at first glance at least -
looks like a bit of a departure from that involved with the CCNA Routing &
Switching curricula.

So I was considering going after CCNA and CCDA in order to put a bit more
depth and breadth into my system/product knowledge and certifications, then
proceeding to CCNP . 

It doesn't seem though, to make much sense to go after CCDP as well, because
of the apparent overlap between the CCNP and CCDP certification paths.

Is this a reasonable set of assumptions? Does anyone see any value [other
than intellectual curiosity, etc.] in obtaining concurrent DP / NP certs?
Are the two paths, beyond a certain point of expertise or career
specialization, mutually exclusive in any way? Highly complementary? Mildly
so? 

Comments/Feedback greatly appreciated! 

Drew M. Mooney
Systems Integrator
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-Original Message-
From: CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:27 PM
To: 'Group Study'
Subject: Passed CCDP


I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I passed
CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP.
I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new
job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I
would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am
past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the
excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of my
family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished. 
Does anyone else feel similar?

Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP.
I took the CCDP 2.0 path.
Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much
help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500
switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc.

April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult.

June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX
and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP
TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP.

June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought
it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book.

July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID
book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide.
Know specs on ATM gear.

I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands
on will be good practice for CCIE.

Thanks to the group for all of your posts. 

Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA
Systems Design Engineer
SBC DataComm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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Re: IBGP and multiple hops through IGP

[JulianCharlene]

Works with the IGP.  Kewl.  Also confirmed this in Halabi's book as well.



Thanks,

Julian


""JulianCharlene"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
8lgbg9$3a1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8lgbg9$3a1$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> G-day 'groupstudy.cisco' newsgroup.  Here is a questions I hope you folks
> can answer.
>
> Here is a leg of our network in beautiful ASCII art:
>
>
> 7206(1)==7206(2)==12012
>
>
> The 12012 is running E/I-BGP and I want to peer with the 7206(1) router.
I
> do not want to run IBGP and a RR on 7206(2) until I upgrade the memory
(only
> 32 megs right now) and only have IGP's on it at the moment.
>
> Does IBGP set the TTL to 1 like EBGP?  Or does it simply use the IGP to
> route accordingly?  Since there is no 'ibgp-multihop #' command I am
hoping
> it uses the IGP to route with a higher TTL.
>
> I am setting this up now and may actually answer my own question in a
matter
> of minutes but if someone can expand on this it would be appreciated.  I
> will post what happens.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Julian
>
>
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Re: CertZone BGP White Paper

[Annlee Hines]

www. certificationzone.com

""Ronald James"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Do you have the url for CertZone?
>
>
> ""D. J. Jones"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 8lfoou$27i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8lfoou$27i$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Unfortunately, it is archived now and the only way to get it is by
> > purchasing a subscription.
> > You may wish in the future check out the whitepapers before they are
> > archived..dj
> >
> >
> > "kikpasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hello,
> > >   I intend taking my Routing exam in 4 weeks time, but I can not get
> > > hold of a copy of the BGP white paper from CertificateZone, is there
> > > someone out there who would be kind enough to send me a copy?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Kerry
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Passed CCDP

[CLAXTON, TIMOTHY A. (AIT)]

I just thought I would drop a quick note to let the group know that I passed
CID on Friday gaining me my CCDP.
I started pursuing this certification earlier this year when I took a new
job. Now that I have passed, I don't have the excitement that I thought I
would have. Don't get me wrong, I am very excited and relieved that I am
past it now. The problem is that I don't have anyone close to share the
excitement with. My wife was happy for me but she, as well as the rest of my
family, doesn't really understand what I have accomplished. 
Does anyone else feel similar?

Anywhoo, here is my path to CCDP.
I took the CCDP 2.0 path.
Jan 2000 - Passed BCMSN beta. I studied CLSC course book a little. Not much
help for this test. I did have lots of hands on including 29xx and 5500
switches. Know spanning tree, Cisco multicast, MLS, VTP, ISL etc.

April 2000 - Passed DCN test for CCDA. I studied DCN CD. Not to difficult.

June 2000 - Passed BCSN. I studied the Cisco Press ACRC book. Skip WAN, IPX
and AppleTalk stuff. Read Cisco's BGP tutorial on CCO. Just search on "BGP
TUTORIAL". Know OSPF and EIGRP.

June 2000 - Passed BCRAN. The group said this was the easiest but I thought
it was fairly difficult. I used Cisco Press BCRAN book.

July 2000 - Passed CID. This was also difficult. I used the Cisco Press CID
book. Study Cisco's ATM product guide.
Know specs on ATM gear.

I hope to take CIT in August. I may take this class just because the hands
on will be good practice for CCIE.

Thanks to the group for all of your posts. 

Tim Claxton CCDP CCNA
Systems Design Engineer
SBC DataComm
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


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RE: Masters degrees / distance learning

[John Robert]

Hi,
About distance learning...you can search through www.yahoo.com under 
education categories.  It has pretty good list of all distance learning 
colleges and universiteis.
I got information for Barrington University but not sure yet if I will start 
with them. But they have pretty good list of classes and also some friends 
reccommended me checking it out.  Here is address:  www.barrington.edu
You can e-mail them to get a free catalog.

good luck!
John

>From: Vincent Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: Vincent Ng <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Masters degrees / distance learning
>Date: Mon, 24 Jul 2000 10:24:09 +0800
>
>Hi Avran,
>
>I wonder if you could provide me links of Nova and Webster.  BTW, are these
>programs internationally recognized?  TIA
>
>Best regards,
>Vincent
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Avran [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 9:58 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Masters degrees / distance learning
>
>
>Lauren:
>
>You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer 
>Science
>and MIS as well.  They both are good programs and you can take almost all
>classes of Nova on the Internet.  Good Luck
>
>Avran
>Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> >
> > Hiya,
> >
> > Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
> > Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
> > masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
> > Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
> > degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
> > already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
> > wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
> > distance learning?
> >
> > TTFN
> > Lauren
> >
> > --
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Lauren Child, BSc.  CCNP Certified
> > http://www.laurenchild.net/  http://www.routerfaq.net/
> >
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IBGP and multiple hops through IGP

[JulianCharlene]

G-day 'groupstudy.cisco' newsgroup.  Here is a questions I hope you folks
can answer.

Here is a leg of our network in beautiful ASCII art:


7206(1)==7206(2)==12012


The 12012 is running E/I-BGP and I want to peer with the 7206(1) router.  I
do not want to run IBGP and a RR on 7206(2) until I upgrade the memory (only
32 megs right now) and only have IGP's on it at the moment.

Does IBGP set the TTL to 1 like EBGP?  Or does it simply use the IGP to
route accordingly?  Since there is no 'ibgp-multihop #' command I am hoping
it uses the IGP to route with a higher TTL.

I am setting this up now and may actually answer my own question in a matter
of minutes but if someone can expand on this it would be appreciated.  I
will post what happens.



Regards,

Julian


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Re: Masters degrees / distance learning

[JohnMail]

TTFN:

Good to see that someone believe in the process of education and is prepared
to go beyond MCSE/CNE/CCxx.  My guess is that the vast majority of people
with "Certs only",  plan to do network configuration type stuff for a very
long time to come.

At some stage my plan is to be able to effectively manage the people doing
the "GRUNT" work - pardon the term.  And this is where a graduate degree
will enable me to compete for technical (or business) managerial positions.
The higher levels of formal education will enable to  do much than mere
networking stuff.  I am sure you want to be able to WRITE effectively and
perfect your PRESENTATION skills.

So far I have completed one graduate program -  MBA.  I also have MCSE and
CCNA.  I am currently working on MCSE (2000) and CCDA/CCNP.  I do this
because learning is fun to me.


Go for Gold!





- Original Message -
From: Lauren Child <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:25 AM
Subject: Masters degrees / distance learning


>
> Hiya,
>
> Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
> Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
> masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
> Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
> degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
> already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
> wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
> distance learning?
>
> TTFN
> Lauren
>
> --
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Lauren Child, BSc.  CCNP Certified
> http://www.laurenchild.net/  http://www.routerfaq.net/
>
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Re: trial copy of ciscoworks

[swapnil]

i got it

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From: Jeffrey Humphreys <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: swapnil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: trial copy of ciscoworks


> Try http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/netmgmt/cww/cwwindows.html
>
> Jeff
>
> - Original Message -
> From: swapnil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Paul Borghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: trial copy of ciscoworks
>
>
> > I didn't find there. do you have any links
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Paul Borghese <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: Cisco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:54 AM
> > Subject: Re: trial copy of ciscoworks
> >
> >
> > > have you tried cisco.com?
> > > - Original Message -
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> > > To: "cgs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Saturday, July 22, 2000 11:28 AM
> > > Subject: trial copy of ciscoworks
> > >
> > >
> > > > from where can I get trial copy of ciscoworks for winnt.
> > > >
> > > > swapnil
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Re: CertZone BGP White Paper

[Ronald James]

Do you have the url for CertZone?


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> Unfortunately, it is archived now and the only way to get it is by
> purchasing a subscription.
> You may wish in the future check out the whitepapers before they are
> archived..dj
>
>
> "kikpasa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hello,
> >   I intend taking my Routing exam in 4 weeks time, but I can not get
> > hold of a copy of the BGP white paper from CertificateZone, is there
> > someone out there who would be kind enough to send me a copy?
> >
> > Cheers
> > Kerry
> >
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RE: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[Ade Wahyu Kurniawan]

Did you Define sub interface function in S0,


Ade,

-Original Message-
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Sent: Monday, July 24, 2000 2:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)


Ohit pings just fine.  I am just trying a little experiment.  You 
know...fix it
up, tear it down, fix it up, tear it down - ad nauseum.  Anyway - it goes 
something
like this.  I have a Linksys (I know...don't say it) Broadband 
Router/Switch that
my internal LAN accesses the internet through.  I have a laptop that is 
connected
to a 3com hub.  Also connected to that hub is the e0 interface of a 
2501.  On the
s0 interface of the 2501, it is connected through a DCE/DTE cable to the s0
interface of a 2503 (following me so far?).  The e0 interface of the 2503 
is connected
to a switch port on the Linksys Router/Switch.  I can ping the Linksys from 
the first PC
(traveling through three different networks and across the Frame-Relay link 
with no problems.
I just can't get beyond that into the WAN.  Also, I can't ping another PC 
plugged into the Linksys
switch either.  I know this is probably worded very confusingly but I just 
thought that
maybe one of my other fine associates out there had experienced something 
similar.

Thanks again guys and gals,
Roman


At 03:07 PM 7/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Roman,
> Just buy a cheap 5 port hub for this. That will work. PC to hub, and
hub
>to router. Also, you dont need a PC to check if ether will get through the
>link. Just create a ping on router A, and when it asks for the source, put
>the address for etherO. For example:
>
>RouterA#ping
> IP address: (routerB's ether, or whatever)
> Source address: (etherO's address)
>
>It goes something like that...Hope it helps,
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a
>Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
>explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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ISDN BRI simulation....

[Robert Borejszo]

Hello everybody:
Excuse my simple question, but I'm just a novice wanna be CISCO guru. I 
am in the process of building my home lab. At present time I have the 
following equipment:

2503
2514
760.
Both 2503 and 760 comes with ISDN BRI. Is it possible to connect this 
two over ISDN BRI to simulate ISDN communication?

Thanks in advance,
Robert


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CIT 4 vs Support 2

[Sonal Fernando]

Hello all,
 
I passed FRS last week. Can you help me to decide 
which exam is advisable to do (CIT 4 or Support)? Also are they differ 
much?
 
Thanks
Kalid

Re: Get your CCNA and Masters of Science in 11 months

[Avran]

Is this Univ. accredited by the regional accreditation body?
"Matt C. Lange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Ball State University has graduate program in information communication
> sciences that is also a Cisco Network Academy
>
> www.cics.bsu.edu
>
> Matt C. Lange
> CCNP CCDP MCSE CS
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dale E. Drummond
> Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2000 1:45 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: re:Cisco6509 with dead modules
>
>
> Olen,
>
>  Please send a show version and a show module from the switch.
>  You can send them directly to me or to the group.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Dale
>
>
> Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2000 13:36:37 +0200
> From: Olden Pieterse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [spam score 3.67/10.0 -pobox] Cisco6509 with dead modules
>
> [ The following text is in the "iso-8859-1" character set. ]
> [ Your display is set for the "US-ASCII" character set.  ]
> [ Some characters may be displayed incorrectly. ]
>
> Hi there
>
> Just quickly a question : I have a 6509 with a 48port ethernet card in it
> .
> On the front the status lights are orange
> If I do a show module x   , then I get a status==other , all the rest are
> ok
> .
> I have enabled the module , put the power on and the works !
>
> Is there anything else I can do to revive this module or can I safely
> assume
> its going to be good as a door stopper/paper weight ?
>
> Cheers
>
>
>   Olden Pieterse
>MCP , CCNA , BCMSN , BSCN , BCRAN
> Brainbench Certified CISCO Network Implementation Specialist
>   Technical Consultant
> Mobile : +27 82 410 8621
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BCMSN question

[Helena LOW]

Hi,

I was wondering if someone could tell me how indepth we need to know the
material in the Cisco press book of BCMSN?  When I was studying for my
CCNA, I mostly used Todd's book which was enough, but I did take a look at
the Cisco Press book for CCNA and it was really indepth..I was wondering
if this is the case for the BCMSN book?  Like would we need to know the
fields of ISL encapsulation?

Thanks
Helena

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Re: Passed CCNA 640-407

[Avran]

I took the CCNA 640-407 and passed it.  Cisco meant it when they said it is
random set of questions.  I suggest that you read the following at east
once.

* WAN (especially Frame Relay & ISDN)
* Routing Protocols
* CLI commands (Make sure you know what context you are in when entering any
commands.  E.g.. testrouterA> or testrouterA# or or testrouterA(config) etc.

You will do fine. Odom's book is excellent!  Lamelle has done a fair job
too..


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> Hi Bharat Suneja,
> congratulation to you.And could you tell me what is the question type in
CCNA
> 1.0?
> thanks
> Dean
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Bharat Suneja wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > Just passed CCNA 640-407 with a 953!
> >
> > First hand feelings : very ambiguous and confusing wordings, practice
tests
> > hlep but not much, Lammle book was great but that shouldn't be your only
> > resource. Cisco Press book (CCNA Exam Certification Guide - Wendell
Odom)
> > helped out where the Lammle book lacked - particularly in understanding
> > Switching.
> >
> > My problem was I was inundated by reading material - amassed too many
books
> > / notes, etc. and was trying to do it all at the same time... :-)
> >
> > Done in 35 minutes, but you can't go back and mark/review any questions
so
> > be very sure before clicking the NEXT button.
> >
> > Thanks to all knowledgable and helpful people on this newsgroup who
helped
> > out immensely. This is really a great resource!!
> >
> > On to CCDA & CCNP track.
> >
> > And now to a often repeated question :-)  -  Any hints on which test I
> > should tackle next for CCNP 2.0 ? What books/resources will I need for
that
> > ? What kind of a lab would I require for CCNP ? (I have 2 x 2501s with
> > Enterprise feature set).
> >
> > Bharat Suneja
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RE: Masters degrees / distance learning

[Vincent Ng]

Hi Avran,

I wonder if you could provide me links of Nova and Webster.  BTW, are these
programs internationally recognized?  TIA

Best regards,
Vincent  

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Lauren:

You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer Science
and MIS as well.  They both are good programs and you can take almost all
classes of Nova on the Internet.  Good Luck

Avran
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> Hiya,
>
> Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
> Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
> masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
> Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
> degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
> already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
> wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
> distance learning?
>
> TTFN
> Lauren
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Re: CCIE - Austin, TX

[cv . perez]

Good point but you don't judge it as well as you don't understand the french
history...

cvp




michael wedel-durrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/21/2000 06:21:36 AM

Please respond to michael wedel-durrow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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cc:(bcc: Claude-Vincent PEREZ/JP-TOKYO-HOLDING/LVMH)

Subject:  Re: CCIE - Austin, TX






dear Bill:

i was speaking from my experience and limited knowlege. the french exchange
students i have known have
been befuddled by our american racial politics.

as for the algerian situation, i don't claim to understand what's going on but
that seems to me to be
based on religious intolerance on both sides (not any better than racial
intolerance, i agree)

Still Your Friend,
mic

Bill Fenech wrote:

> Yeah, right, that's why they get along with Algerians so well
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "michael wedel-durrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Chuck Larrieu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "groupstudy"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 7:36 AM
> Subject: Re: CCIE - Austin, TX
>
> > yes, but my experience with the french is that to them race is
> insignifigant.
> >
> > Chuck Larrieu wrote:
> >
> > > I too checked the dictionary on this one. It is true the word is of
> > > Scandinavian / old English origin, and has perhaps been in the language
> for
> > > 1500 years, well before the Danes, the Norse, the Saxons and the Angles
> had
> > > any contact with  sub-Saharans.
> > >
> > > That said, the word became politically incorrect here in the US because
> of
> > > the similarity to a particular racial epithet, and has generally fallen
> out
> > > of favor as a result. Them Frenchies, on the other hand, have fewer
> hangups
> > > of these sorts. I am inclined to believe that the French in general
> > > discriminate based upon ability to speak pure Parisian. The worse your
> > > accent, the further down the food chain you are, socially speaking.
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > Deane, James
> > > Sent:   Thursday, July 20, 2000 10:31 AM
> > > To: 'michael wedel-durrow'; ElephantChild; groupstudy
> > > Subject:RE: CCIE - Austin, TX
> > >
> > > Before this gets out of hand, the following is pasted from the From the
> > > Miriam Webster web site (www.m-w.com)
> > >
> > > Main Entry: nig·gard·ly
> > > Pronunciation: -lE
> > > Function: adjective
> > > Date: 1571
> > > 1 : grudgingly mean about spending or granting : BEGRUDGING
> > > 2 : provided in meanly limited supply
> > > synonym see STINGY
> > > - nig·gard·li·ness noun
> > > - niggardly adverb
> > >
> > > I'm sure EC meant no harm in this other than to throw around a 10 dollar
> > > word.
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: michael wedel-durrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 4:07 AM
> > > To: ElephantChild; groupstudy
> > > Subject: Re: CCIE - Austin, TX
> > >
> > > EC:
> > >
> > > you used a very ugly racial epethet. please show us that you're not so
> > > stupid that you can't find a more
> > > appropriate choice of words.
> > >
> > > mic
> > >
> > > ElephantChild wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Thu, 20 Jul 2000, Raymond Thomas wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > First we had words like rabblecroot, now...persnickety?? LOL, I
> know
> > > > > what you mean though.
> > > >
> > > > Next thing you know, someone's going to complain about HR
> niggardliness.
> > > > :-)
> > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
> Of
> > > > > Chuck Larrieu
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 3:49 PM
> > > > >
> > > > > Some recruiters wonder why we techies get so persnickety.  :->
> > > > >
> > > > > -Original Message-
> > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf
> Of
> > > > > Starry Eyes
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2000 7:07 AM
> > > > >
> > > > > Why do I not have a warm fuzzy about this offer?  Maybe because I am
> not
> > > a
> > > > > certificated [sic] CCIE?
> > > >
> > > > (corpus delicti snippicated.)
> > > >
> > > > --
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 micwedel.vcf

Very good web site for CCNA

[Neelanga Udash]

Dear all,

Take a look at this site. There is a whole book of CCNA material written by
a CCIE,

http://www.rkingma.com/cisco/testhome.htm
 





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TCP/IP & Unix/Linux studygroup

[swvaroot]

Hi

Anyone know of  a good TCP/IP study group for beginners like 
this one.   How about one for Linux?  Redhat or such?  Thanks.

-edgar

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Re: Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

[bellis]

if you're taking the exam in (4) weeks and you plan on using that this late
in the game, FORGET it!  Go and buy Marc Russell's labs
(www.ccbootcamp.com).  That's what I used to pass the CCIE exam!!!

The All-in-one Lab Study Guide is great for a starting point (3-6 months
prior to the lab exam).  After that, you need some REAL labs!

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
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>   I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one
> Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it
> true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second
> hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can
> only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4
> weeks time.
>
> Cheers
> Kerry
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RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[Aaron K. Dixon]

I did some checking on the va web-site and it appears that this is feasible.

http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/FAQ_edu.htm#eleven

Follow the link to the FAQ page where you will see:

Q.  May I use VA education benefits for short-term high-cost programs, such
as Novell and Microsoft certification?

A.  Yes, if the program has been approved for VA purposes.

You need to contact the training provider or the VA to find out if it's
approved.  The number for the VA is 888-442-4551.

Unfortunately, if you read on you will see that they cover very little cost.
If you go full-time for a week they give you the full time rate for one
week.  I think the full time rate for a month is around $500 so that would
only cover about $125 for a one-week course which typically costs $2000 or
more.

Regards,
Aaron K. Dixon


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
William E Gragido
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:02 PM
To: Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill


Good question, I have never heard of it.  However I think it would work if
the institution(i.e. School/College/University) was/is an accredited
educational institute.  Check with the VA reps at the your local JCs and
Universities/Colleges.  Some are Cisco Academies as well.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brian
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
> Cisco Training or Certifications?
>
> Brian
>
> -
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Re: Masters degrees / distance learning

[Avran]

Lauren:

You may want to look at Webster or Nova as they offer Ms in Computer Science
and MIS as well.  They both are good programs and you can take almost all
classes of Nova on the Internet.  Good Luck

Avran
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>
> Hiya,
>
> Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
> Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
> masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
> Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
> degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
> already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
> wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
> distance learning?
>
> TTFN
> Lauren
>
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RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[Dale Cantrell]

Yes indeed! Community Colleges with Cisco Networking Academies are 
expanding. This year some are starting/offering CCNP programs starting with 
ACRC. I'm registering tomorrow for the fall semester, at a college
15 miles away. Only downside is you must have completed the first four 
modules (two a semester) or have attained the CCNA certification. Ten 
routers and two switches, for three months, for $145...WOOHOOO!!! Four hours 
college credit also.
ACRC...Yes I know. I beleive they said  they would work off of notes or 
something. This ought to be good!? :>)

Dale CCNA

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Reply-To: "William E Gragido" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
Date: Sun, 23 Jul 2000 20:01:35 -0500

Good question, I have never heard of it.  However I think it would work if
the institution(i.e. School/College/University) was/is an accredited
educational institute.  Check with the VA reps at the your local JCs and
Universities/Colleges.  Some are Cisco Academies as well.

 > -Original Message-
 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
 > Brian
 > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:32 PM
 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > Subject: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
 >
 >
 >
 > Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
 > Cisco Training or Certifications?
 >
 > Brian
 >
 > -
 > Brian Feeny, CCNA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > 318-222-2638 x 109   http://www.shreve.net/~signal
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RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[Brian]

Well, that's better than nothing I guess.  I guess GI Bill would be best
to use on like 4 "college courses" in advanced networking that lasted a
semestero well, always trying to make those goverment dollars
work.

Now if you were "active duty" you could probably use TA to pay for your
courses.perhaps..


On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Aaron K. Dixon wrote:

> I did some checking on the va web-site and it appears that this is feasible.
> 
> http://www.gibill.va.gov/education/FAQ_edu.htm#eleven
> 
> Follow the link to the FAQ page where you will see:
> 
> Q.  May I use VA education benefits for short-term high-cost programs, such
> as Novell and Microsoft certification?
> 
> A.  Yes, if the program has been approved for VA purposes.
> 
> You need to contact the training provider or the VA to find out if it's
> approved.  The number for the VA is 888-442-4551.
> 
> Unfortunately, if you read on you will see that they cover very little cost.
> If you go full-time for a week they give you the full time rate for one
> week.  I think the full time rate for a month is around $500 so that would
> only cover about $125 for a one-week course which typically costs $2000 or
> more.
> 
> Regards,
> Aaron K. Dixon
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> William E Gragido
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:02 PM
> To: Brian; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
> 
> 
> Good question, I have never heard of it.  However I think it would work if
> the institution(i.e. School/College/University) was/is an accredited
> educational institute.  Check with the VA reps at the your local JCs and
> Universities/Colleges.  Some are Cisco Academies as well.
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Brian
> > Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:32 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
> >
> >
> >
> > Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
> > Cisco Training or Certifications?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > -
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> > 318-222-2638 x 109  http://www.shreve.net/~signal
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Masters degrees / distance learning

[Lauren Child]

Hiya,

Ive been thinking about the Masters Degree thing - I have a BSc in
Computing (communications and Networks).  Im wondering about doing a
masters degree by distance learning.  My old university, Sheffield
Hallam in the UK does a distance learning "enterrprise networks" masters
degree thats accredited by Novell, but having spent 4 years there
already, and having had disagreements with staff members etc, I was
wondering what other degrees people might have found or taken by
distance learning?

TTFN
Lauren

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RE: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[William E Gragido]

Good question, I have never heard of it.  However I think it would work if
the institution(i.e. School/College/University) was/is an accredited
educational institute.  Check with the VA reps at the your local JCs and
Universities/Colleges.  Some are Cisco Academies as well.

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brian
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 7:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill
>
>
>
> Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
> Cisco Training or Certifications?
>
> Brian
>
> -
> Brian Feeny, CCNA   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 318-222-2638 x 109http://www.shreve.net/~signal
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Cisco and the Montgomery GI Bill

[Brian]

Has anyone ever heard of anyone being able to use the GI Bill for any
Cisco Training or Certifications?

Brian

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Cisco DHCP server question?

[derek lewinson]

I am replacing a 3com lanmodem with a 2620.  The lanmodem currently operates
as a dchp server, providing
services to windows 9x/NT clients.

I have set up a 2620 as a dhcp server, but can't seem to get the server to
assign an address
to the client, except if I choose the 'renew' option in windows' WINIPCFG
utility.

Does anyone know whether this is because :

a) the router is not 'seeing' the initial dhcprequest packet?
b) MS Windows clients require a 'bootfile' on  the dhcp server ?

Any help or redirection to an appropriate source would be helpful.

I have checked the cisco site, but can only find info on how to set up the
server,
not troubleshoot it.



Derek Lewinson, CCNA, MCSE
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Re: trial copy of ciscoworks

[Jeffrey Humphreys]

Try http://www.cisco.com/kobayashi/sw-center/netmgmt/cww/cwwindows.html

Jeff

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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:04 AM
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> I didn't find there. do you have any links
>
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> > have you tried cisco.com?
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> >
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> > > from where can I get trial copy of ciscoworks for winnt.
> > >
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Re: CertZone BGP White Paper

[D. J. Jones]

Unfortunately, it is archived now and the only way to get it is by
purchasing a subscription.
You may wish in the future check out the whitepapers before they are
archived..dj


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>   I intend taking my Routing exam in 4 weeks time, but I can not get
> hold of a copy of the BGP white paper from CertificateZone, is there
> someone out there who would be kind enough to send me a copy?
>
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640-440 / Support 2.0

[FRS]

Hi all,

Do you have any suggestions on excellent resources to prepare for the
640-440 exam?

Thanks in advance.




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Re: Master Degree?

[Jorge Rodriguez]

This replay is for the fellow with so many degrees & certs!!
Not happy ? Sounds like you picked the wrong career/business !!



> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!



--Original Message--
From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 23, 2000 8:12:40 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Master Degree?


Keep talking, I'm getting excited.

At 03:57 PM 7/23/00 -0100, you wrote:
>I asked a fiend (who is a high level CCIE), after having met the
>electrical engineer who designed my companies network, if I should "maybe"
>go back & take a few college engineering classes (maybe another
>bachelors).  He looked @ me seriously & said...  do you want to make money
>or to you want to fiddle with algorithms & pin voltages.  The engineer
>that works for my company was the 13th employee & is a millionaire many
>times over.  My friend the CCIE, started fixing copiers in 1993 & is on
>course to make $550,000 this year...
>
>Which one is more attainable :-)
>
>Phil
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Michael Fountain"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:05 PM
>Subject: Re: Master Degree?
>
> > I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I don't know if I would
> > recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost
> > about 3 times what they should.
> >
> > I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering
degree.
> > GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on
> > communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able to find
> something
> > similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits,
> > bytes, and electrical signals.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!
> > >John
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Master Degree?

[Jorge Rodriguez]

This replay is for the fellow with so many degrees & certs!!
Not happy ? Sounds like you picked the wrong career/business !!



> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!



--Original Message--
From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 23, 2000 8:12:40 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Master Degree?


Keep talking, I'm getting excited.

At 03:57 PM 7/23/00 -0100, you wrote:
>I asked a fiend (who is a high level CCIE), after having met the
>electrical engineer who designed my companies network, if I should "maybe"
>go back & take a few college engineering classes (maybe another
>bachelors).  He looked @ me seriously & said...  do you want to make money
>or to you want to fiddle with algorithms & pin voltages.  The engineer
>that works for my company was the 13th employee & is a millionaire many
>times over.  My friend the CCIE, started fixing copiers in 1993 & is on
>course to make $550,000 this year...
>
>Which one is more attainable :-)
>
>Phil
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Michael Fountain"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:05 PM
>Subject: Re: Master Degree?
>
> > I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I don't know if I would
> > recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost
> > about 3 times what they should.
> >
> > I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering
degree.
> > GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on
> > communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able to find
> something
> > similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits,
> > bytes, and electrical signals.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!
> > >John
> > >
> >
>
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Re: Master Degree?

[Jorge Rodriguez]

This replay is for the fellow with so many degrees & certs!!
Not happy ? Sounds like you picked the wrong career/business !!



> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!



--Original Message--
From: Roman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: July 23, 2000 8:12:40 PM GMT
Subject: Re: Master Degree?


Keep talking, I'm getting excited.

At 03:57 PM 7/23/00 -0100, you wrote:
>I asked a fiend (who is a high level CCIE), after having met the
>electrical engineer who designed my companies network, if I should "maybe"
>go back & take a few college engineering classes (maybe another
>bachelors).  He looked @ me seriously & said...  do you want to make money
>or to you want to fiddle with algorithms & pin voltages.  The engineer
>that works for my company was the 13th employee & is a millionaire many
>times over.  My friend the CCIE, started fixing copiers in 1993 & is on
>course to make $550,000 this year...
>
>Which one is more attainable :-)
>
>Phil
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Michael Fountain"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:05 PM
>Subject: Re: Master Degree?
>
> > I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I don't know if I would
> > recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost
> > about 3 times what they should.
> >
> > I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering
degree.
> > GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on
> > communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able to find
> something
> > similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits,
> > bytes, and electrical signals.
> >
> >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP,
but
> > >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> > >master
> > >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> > >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also
> want to
> > >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> > >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web
> sites.
> > >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I
check
> > >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are
same
> > >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I
don't
> > >know what I will be specializing in.
> > >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> > >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance!
> > >John
> > >
> >
>
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RE: cid failed twice!

[William E Gragido]

Yikes!  The brutality of truth is at times grueling!

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:55 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: cid failed twice!
>
>
> The answer is:  learn the material, THEN take the test.
>
> << first is 64%,second is 62%, there are totally different qustions in two
>  tests.
>  can any one give me some real ans ?
>  pls! >>
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CertZone BGP White Paper

[kikpasa]

Hello,
  I intend taking my Routing exam in 4 weeks time, but I can not get
hold of a copy of the BGP white paper from CertificateZone, is there
someone out there who would be kind enough to send me a copy?

Cheers
Kerry

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Cisco CCIE All-in-one Lab Study Guide

[kikpasa]

Hello,
  I have read a few suggestions about using the "Cisco CCIE All-in-one
Lab Study Guide" for the BSCN exam, for hands on lad practice, is it
true, and if that is the case, there someone out the that has a second
hand copy for sale (in good shape), the problem is that Amazon.co.uk can
only ship between 2 - 5 weeks time, and I intend sitting the exam in 4
weeks time.

Cheers
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Re: Master Degree?

[Roman]

Keep talking, I'm getting excited.

At 03:57 PM 7/23/00 -0100, you wrote:
I
asked a fiend (who is a high level CCIE), after having met the electrical
engineer who designed my companies network, if I should "maybe"
go back & take a few college engineering classes (maybe another
bachelors).  He looked @ me seriously & said...  do you
want to make money or to you want to fiddle with algorithms & pin
voltages.  The engineer that works for my company was the 13th
employee & is a millionaire many times over.  My friend the
CCIE, started fixing copiers in 1993 & is on course to make $550,000
this year...
 
Which one is
more attainable :-)
 
Phil
 
- Original Message - 
From: "Michael Fountain"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To:
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Master Degree?

> I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I
don't know if I would 
> recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic
and cost 
> about 3 times what they should.
> 
> I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering
degree.  
> GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on 
> communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able
to find something 
> similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1
bits, 
> bytes, and electrical signals.
> 
> 
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and
CCNP, but
> >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that
required 
> >master
> >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and
also want to
> >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go
for?
> >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's
web sites.
> >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for
there.  If I check
> >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses
are same
> >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed
that I don't
> >know what I will be specializing in.
> >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what
subjects)?
> >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> >
> >Thanks in advance!
> >John
> >
>
>
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Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[Roman]

The frame-relay portion is only between the two cisco routers.  The linksys
router is tied to the e0 port of one of them.  Actually, I have that linksys
router/switch functioning only as a gateway/switch.  It does no routing per se.
Just shoves everything not local out the WAN port and that's about it.  I 
was playing
a bit with a sniffer and I noticed that the ping will travel from one pc, 
through the two
cisco routers running FR, out the e0 port of the second, to the switch, and 
the too the
second PC.  That pc, replies to the echo but it never makes it back to the 
original PC.

Grrr... :)

At 04:02 PM 7/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>If your running frame relay did you remember to encapsulate the link with
>IETF. You know this is used for a Cisco router connecting to a non Cisco
>router, just a thought.
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a
>Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
>explode once a year killing everyone inside.
> ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~


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Re: IPSec priority

[Nimesh Vakharia]

to match IP ipsec traffic, access-list 100 permit esp 
or access-list 100 permit ahp 
depending on what u'r using

u can use these access-lists iwth the queueing mechanism.

Nimesh.

On Sat, 22 Jul 2000, Gert Jan wrote:

> Is it possible to prioritized IPSec packet before any other protocol? I have
> a link to the internet and running a VPN to another Office, and I want to
> hive IPSec the highest priority. Thus I want that my Cisco 3640 first handel
> those packet before any othe like http ftp etc.
> 
> Thanks in advances
> regards
> Peter
> 
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Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[NeoLink2000]

If your running frame relay did you remember to encapsulate the link with 
IETF. You know this is used for a Cisco router connecting to a non Cisco 
router, just a thought.

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
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If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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clearer titles

[Oladele Ayuba]

I think it will be easier to go through the archives if our posts were titled
properly. It definately is irritating to see the same questions being asked over
and over again but I think its unfair to blame anyone for asking if it will take
a whole day to sift thru the archive and still not find what you were looking
for even if it was there.

just helping to make the list more useful.


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Re: Master Degree?

[Circusnuts]

I asked a fiend (who 
is a high level CCIE), after having met the electrical engineer who 
designed my companies network, if I should "maybe" go back & take a few 
college engineering classes (maybe another bachelors).  He looked @ me 
seriously & said...  do you want to make money or to you want to fiddle 
with algorithms & pin voltages.  The engineer that works for my company 
was the 13th employee & is a millionaire many times over.  My friend 
the CCIE, started fixing copiers in 1993 & is on course to make 
$550,000 this year...
 
Which one is more 
attainable :-)
 
Phil
 
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From: "Michael Fountain" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: Master Degree?
> I've got a BS in Telecommunications from 
DeVry.  I don't know if I would > recommend that to anyone 
though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost > about 3 times what 
they should.> > I think my next step it to work towards an 
Electrical Engineering degree.  > GA Tech has a masters in 
Electrical Engineer concentrating on > communications.  That sounds 
about right.  You may be able to find something > similar up there 
if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits, > bytes, and 
electrical signals.> > > >> >Hi,> 
>> >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA 
and CCNP, but> >still not satisfied. I have seen different job 
postings that required > >master> >degrees and I have sort 
of desire to go for it too.> >So, my question from group is: If we are 
going toward CCIE and also want to> >get masters, what major to choose 
and which universtiy to go for?> >I am in New York City and have 
searched different universities's web sites.> >I have seen nothing 
interesting that I want to go for there.  If I check> >courses 
under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are same> 
>old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I 
don't> >know what I will be specializing in.> >Has anyone 
gone through same problem or doing masters (in what subjects)?> >Any 
suggestions that where I should look for?> >> >Thanks in 
advance!> >John> >> 
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Re: cid failed twice!

[Clayton Dukes]

Cyberhead,

Try reading Cisco's IDG (Internetwork Design Guide)
You can find it at http://www.gdd.net/cisco

Then look under the CCDA section.


Good luck on your test!



Clayton Dukes
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc
CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, CCDP


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> first is 64%,second is 62%, there are totally different qustions in two
> tests.
> can any one give me some real ans ?
> pls!
>
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Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[Roman]

Ohit pings just fine.  I am just trying a little experiment.  You 
know...fix it
up, tear it down, fix it up, tear it down - ad nauseum.  Anyway - it goes 
something
like this.  I have a Linksys (I know...don't say it) Broadband 
Router/Switch that
my internal LAN accesses the internet through.  I have a laptop that is 
connected
to a 3com hub.  Also connected to that hub is the e0 interface of a 
2501.  On the
s0 interface of the 2501, it is connected through a DCE/DTE cable to the s0
interface of a 2503 (following me so far?).  The e0 interface of the 2503 
is connected
to a switch port on the Linksys Router/Switch.  I can ping the Linksys from 
the first PC
(traveling through three different networks and across the Frame-Relay link 
with no problems.
I just can't get beyond that into the WAN.  Also, I can't ping another PC 
plugged into the Linksys
switch either.  I know this is probably worded very confusingly but I just 
thought that
maybe one of my other fine associates out there had experienced something 
similar.

Thanks again guys and gals,
Roman


At 03:07 PM 7/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Roman,
> Just buy a cheap 5 port hub for this. That will work. PC to hub, and hub
>to router. Also, you dont need a PC to check if ether will get through the
>link. Just create a ping on router A, and when it asks for the source, put
>the address for etherO. For example:
>
>RouterA#ping
> IP address: (routerB's ether, or whatever)
> Source address: (etherO's address)
>
>It goes something like that...Hope it helps,
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a
>Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
>explode once a year killing everyone inside.
> ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~
>
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Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[Roman]

Ohit pings just fine.  I am just trying a little experiment.  You 
know...fix it
up, tear it down, fix it up, tear it down - ad nauseum.  Anyway - it goes 
something
like this.  I have a Linksys (I know...don't say it) Broadband 
Router/Switch that
my internal LAN accesses the internet through.  I have a laptop that is 
connected
to a 3com hub.  Also connected to that hub is the e0 interface of a 
2501.  On the
s0 interface of the 2501, it is connected through a DCE/DTE cable to the s0
interface of a 2503 (following me so far?).  The e0 interface of the 2503 
is connected
to a switch port on the Linksys Router/Switch.  I can ping the Linksys from 
the first PC
(traveling through three different networks and across the Frame-Relay link 
with no problems.
I just can't get beyond that into the WAN.  Also, I can't ping another PC 
plugged into the Linksys
switch either.  I know this is probably worded very confusingly but I just 
thought that
maybe one of my other fine associates out there had experienced something 
similar.

Thanks again guys and gals,
Roman


At 03:07 PM 7/23/00 -0400, you wrote:
>Roman,
> Just buy a cheap 5 port hub for this. That will work. PC to hub, and hub
>to router. Also, you dont need a PC to check if ether will get through the
>link. Just create a ping on router A, and when it asks for the source, put
>the address for etherO. For example:
>
>RouterA#ping
> IP address: (routerB's ether, or whatever)
> Source address: (etherO's address)
>
>It goes something like that...Hope it helps,
>
>Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a
>Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and
>explode once a year killing everyone inside.
> ~Robert Cringely, InfoWorld~
>
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Re: Stupid question..

[Circusnuts]

You need a crossover to 
"talk" NIC to E0.  The only time you would use a patch cable, is when 
you connect the router/ PC to a switch/ hub.  I "personally" know when 
to use each cable (I even know the pinouts), but I'm not sure if I 
could clearly explain to you why this is.  I can promise you this, knowing 
the engineering of that Ethernet transceiver & it's data exchange on that 
RJ45 pinout will not change the paycheck you get this Friday :-)  

 
Good Luck 
!!!
Phil
 
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Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 5:33 PM
Subject: Stupid question..
> Can I plug a PC directly from the NIC to the 
ethernet port on a 2500 series > router?> It won't work for 
me.  Router doesn't recognize a link directly to the PC > but it 
does> when plugged into a switch.  I assume it's a straight vs. 
crossover thing > but from> what I was told, you only need a 
crossover cable when plugging like devices > together> (ie- router 
to router, switch to switch, etc.).> > Any ideas?> > 
What I am trying to do is have a pc on the e0 int of one router, feed > 
through a frame> relay connection to another router and then out of the 
e0 int on that > router to a switch.> > Thanks in advance 
for helping out.> Roman> > 
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RE: Stupid question..

[Pavel . Bulgakov]

You must use a "straight" cable if you're connecting pc/router/etc. to a
hub/switch. And you definetely must use a "crossed-over" cable to connect a
pc/router to another pc/router and hub/switch to another hub/switch. Some
hubs/switches/routers may let you change manually the role of the port
(MDI-X or MDI) so it becomes "crossed" internally and you may use a
"straight" cable where the crossed one needed. Thus, on some devices it is
possible to change the port settings and to use a straight cable to connect
hub to hub and pc/router to router.

In your case,  2500 series router's ethernet port does not support this
feature and the solution to your problem is to use a crossed-over cable.

HTH,

Pavel G. Bulgakov, MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA
Information Technology Specialist
Clifford Chance Puender CIS
+7 (501) 258-5050, ext. 5079


> -Original Message-
> From: Roman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 10:34 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Stupid question..
> 
> 
> Can I plug a PC directly from the NIC to the ethernet port on 
> a 2500 series 
> router?
> It won't work for me.  Router doesn't recognize a link 
> directly to the PC 
> but it does
> when plugged into a switch.  I assume it's a straight vs. 
> crossover thing 
> but from
> what I was told, you only need a crossover cable when 
> plugging like devices 
> together
> (ie- router to router, switch to switch, etc.).
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> What I am trying to do is have a pc on the e0 int of one router, feed 
> through a frame
> relay connection to another router and then out of the e0 int on that 
> router to a switch.
> 
> Thanks in advance for helping out.
> Roman
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RE: Stupid question..

[Ken Chipps]

Any 10BaseT type Ethernet connection between any two devices without the use
of a hub requires a crossover cable.

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Roman
Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 1:34 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Stupid question..


Can I plug a PC directly from the NIC to the ethernet port on a 2500 series
router?
It won't work for me.  Router doesn't recognize a link directly to the PC
but it does
when plugged into a switch.  I assume it's a straight vs. crossover thing
but from
what I was told, you only need a crossover cable when plugging like devices
together
(ie- router to router, switch to switch, etc.).

Any ideas?

What I am trying to do is have a pc on the e0 int of one router, feed
through a frame
relay connection to another router and then out of the e0 int on that
router to a switch.

Thanks in advance for helping out.
Roman

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cheap cisco routers (UK and Europe)

[Lauren Child]

last call - I havent had much response which surprises me a bit.  Ill
post it to groupstudy this time just in case anyone there is interested.

Lauren Child wrote:
> 
> Hiya,
> 
> I have the oppurtunity to pick up some cheap routers - if anyone is
> interested, they are the following spec -#
> 
> 2504, 1 token ring, 2 serial, 8 ram, 8 flash, Ios 11.2 running on them.
> 350 UK pounds.
> 
> 4000, 1 ethernet, 2 serial, unknown memory/ios, 450 UK pounds.
> 
> Ill have to charge VAT tax at 17.5 % as Im importing them.  I dont mind
> shipping them to far off places as long as the buyer pays the shipping
> cost.
> 
> drop me an email if you are intereted - Ill be sending off for them at
> the end of the month.
> 
> TTFN
> Lauren
> 
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Re: cid failed twice!

[NeoLink2000]

In a message dated 7/23/00 2:41:23 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< The answer is:  learn the material, THEN take the test.
 
 Here-here! Oh how true it is...

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
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If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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Re: Stupid question...(no questions are stupid friend)

[NeoLink2000]

Roman, 
Just buy a cheap 5 port hub for this. That will work. PC to hub, and hub 
to router. Also, you dont need a PC to check if ether will get through the 
link. Just create a ping on router A, and when it asks for the source, put 
the address for etherO. For example:

RouterA#ping
IP address: (routerB's ether, or whatever)
Source address: (etherO's address)

It goes something like that...Hope it helps,

Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

If the automobile had followed the same development as the computer, a 
Rolls-Royce would today cost $100, get a million miles per gallon, and 
explode once a year killing everyone inside.
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Advanced Routing

[NRS Hariharan]

Hi all,
  I haved passed my CCNA 1.0 and going to start preparing for CCNP2.0
Having gone thru the BSCN syllabus in Cisco.com and Boson.com..they have added
many new topics..One of which is Advanced Routing..
  I would like to know what this portion actually covers???
  Moreover Access Lists,Novel and Appletalk has been moved to ICND.So
should I study these or can I leave and concentrate only on the Objectives
from the Exam point of view???
   Thanks in advance,

Regards,
hari



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Stupid question..

[Roman]

Can I plug a PC directly from the NIC to the ethernet port on a 2500 series 
router?
It won't work for me.  Router doesn't recognize a link directly to the PC 
but it does
when plugged into a switch.  I assume it's a straight vs. crossover thing 
but from
what I was told, you only need a crossover cable when plugging like devices 
together
(ie- router to router, switch to switch, etc.).

Any ideas?

What I am trying to do is have a pc on the e0 int of one router, feed 
through a frame
relay connection to another router and then out of the e0 int on that 
router to a switch.

Thanks in advance for helping out.
Roman

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Re: cid failed twice!

[JLBCisco]

The answer is:  learn the material, THEN take the test.

<< first is 64%,second is 62%, there are totally different qustions in two
 tests.
 can any one give me some real ans ?
 pls! >>

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Re: off topic math question

[Jay Hennigan]

On Sun, 23 Jul 2000, Marco Rodrigues wrote:

> Each guy didn't pay $9 for each room. $25 / 3 is 8. ... + 1, is
> 9.3  multiply that by 3 then add $2. Comes out to $30 for me. Am I
> missing the riddle here people? :) heh

Each guy paid $9.  

There is no extra dollar.  The manager accepts $30, gives back $3 in change,
keeps $2 for himself, and pays the hotel $25 for the room. 3 + 2 + 25 = 30


> 3 guys go to a hotel, the manager says the room is $30. Each guy puts in $10
> then go to sleep.
> 
> The next manager decides the room is really only $25, but decides to keep $2
> for himself.
> 
> He then hands each guy back $1 each.
> 
> The Question is if each guy paid $9 for the room, and 3*9=27 +2(the manager
> took) what happens to the other dollar, since 27+2=$29?

The "$27 + $2 = $29" is the faulty logic.  The $27 is the sum of the room 
cost and the $2 skimming by the crooked manager.  The three guys each got
$1 in change which needs to ba added to this to arrive at the original $30.

I don't know if there is a name for this particular riddle.  

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cid failed twice!

[cyberhead]

first is 64%,second is 62%, there are totally different qustions in two
tests.
can any one give me some real ans ?
pls!


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Re: off topic math question

[Marco Rodrigues]

Each guy didn't pay $9 for each room. $25 / 3 is 8. ... + 1, is
9.3  multiply that by 3 then add $2. Comes out to $30 for me. Am I
missing the riddle here people? :) heh



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Does anyone know the math the name of the math puzzler that goes like this:

3 guys go to a hotel, the manager says the room is $30. Each guy puts in $10
then go to sleep.

The next manager decides the room is really only $25, but decides to keep $2
for himself.

He then hands each guy back $1 each.

The Question is if each guy paid $9 for the room, and 3*9=27 +2(the manager
took) what happens to the other dollar, since 27+2=$29?

I only ask since I belive this is a math riddle and wanted to know the name.

Nigel


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RE: Master Degree?

[William E Gragido]

DePaul University has an outstanding Computer Science, Telecommunications,
and Information Systems program.  It has been nationally rated in the top 5
for years.  I would suggest checking it out, I am not just saying that
because I go there either!

> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Michael Fountain
> Sent: Sunday, July 23, 2000 8:06 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Master Degree?
>
>
> I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I don't know if I would
> recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost
> about 3 times what they should.
>
> I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering
> degree.
> GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on
> communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able to
> find something
> similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits,
> bytes, and electrical signals.
>
>
> >
> >Hi,
> >
> >I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and
> CCNP, but
> >still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required
> >master
> >degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
> >So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and
> also want to
> >get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
> >I am in New York City and have searched different universities's
> web sites.
> >I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I check
> >courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are same
> >old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed
> that I don't
> >know what I will be specializing in.
> >Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what subjects)?
> >Any suggestions that where I should look for?
> >
> >Thanks in advance!
> >John
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Requesting information on certification.

[Castellanos, William]

  Hello,
I'am interested in becomming certified,Iam looking to
get the ccna certification i'am located in N.Y.C and i was wondering if
anyone could possibly tell me where I might possibly be better off going to
a university or a private school or if you know of any schools which you may
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Re: Master Degree?

[Michael Fountain]

I've got a BS in Telecommunications from DeVry.  I don't know if I would 
recommend that to anyone though.  The classes were pretty basic and cost 
about 3 times what they should.

I think my next step it to work towards an Electrical Engineering degree.  
GA Tech has a masters in Electrical Engineer concentrating on 
communications.  That sounds about right.  You may be able to find something 
similar up there if you are interested in getting down to layer 1 bits, 
bytes, and electrical signals.


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>Hi,
>
>I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP, but
>still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required 
>master
>degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
>So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also want to
>get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
>I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web sites.
>I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I check
>courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are same
>old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I don't
>know what I will be specializing in.
>Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what subjects)?
>Any suggestions that where I should look for?
>
>Thanks in advance!
>John
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Master Degree?

[John Robert]

Hi,

I have my B.A in Computer Information System, A+, MCSE, CCNA and CCNP, but 
still not satisfied. I have seen different job postings that required master 
degrees and I have sort of desire to go for it too.
So, my question from group is: If we are going toward CCIE and also want to 
get masters, what major to choose and which universtiy to go for?
I am in New York City and have searched different universities's web sites. 
I have seen nothing interesting that I want to go for there.  If I check 
courses under diff Computer related master degrees, some courses are same 
old that I have already finished in B.A. or they are so mixed that I don't 
know what I will be specializing in.
Has anyone gone through same problem or doing masters (in what subjects)?  
Any suggestions that where I should look for?

Thanks in advance!
John


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Re: AS question

[Mohamed Abubakkar Siddiqu]

Hi all,

www.apnic.net

U can  get autonomous and IP address. But it is not easy job (may be
for me !! )

regards
siddiqu



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9e1-569, cipt beta examin

[Sam . Ng]

  Anyone knows anything about this beta examin.. where we can get study material
for
  this examin

  Cheers
  Sam

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