BCRAN Study Partner

[Danial wood]

Dear all 
  I have just started my prep for BCRAN.Anybody
wants to join in Lahore,Pakistan.

regards

Hussnain Ali Akbar
Engineer
Sysnet pakistan Pvt. Ltd.
19-Davis Road,
Al-Malik Plaza,Lahore.
Pakistan
Ph: 42-6307783,6307781

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Re: AS Number

[M Kashif Iqbal]

Knet,

I am not sure.

--
Regards,
Kashif


Kent wrote:

> Kashif,
>
> Quick question, what the access-list in the
> looking-glass mean? the access-list applied by the
> service provider of that NAP?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kent
> --- M Kashif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I think its a good site for this type of services.
> >
> > http://nitrous.digex.net/mae/sn-lg.html
> >
> > Kashif
> >
> > "Benny Leong (HTHK - Senior Engineer II - iServices
> > Development, NNSD)" wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I would like to know the AS # of an ISP.  Can
> > anyone tell me how to check it
> > > over the web ?
> > >
> > > Thanks.
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RE: Thanks for the threads!

[IST . EPNL-CT-BELAIKS]

CONGRAT AND CHEERS MY GUY!!
Any question about Vlan? Ospf & co? Wan protocols? 1900?
thanks

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I passed my CCNA 2.0 test today and just wanted to thank everyone for 
the wealth of information that is provided through this study list.  I 
thought the test was well written and provided a fair assessment of my 
knowledge.
Just apply what your trying to learn and you will pass this test. 

 

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RE: 2948G L3, route between Vlan

[Dorroh, Hunter]

Here are two good links that will be helpful.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/25.html

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/29.html


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Subject: 2948G L3, route between Vlan


Hi
i've setup two vlan in the switch.
but packet can't route from one vlan to other vlan...
how can i enable routing between vlan?

thx
BB


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Re: Configuring Catalyst 1200 ?

[Circusnuts]

If this is an older Firmware switch, this cable must be a null modem pin...

Good Luck !!!
Phil
  
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Subject: Configuring Catalyst 1200 ?


> i got a catalyst 1200 .
> it cannot be configured via the 
> db-9 to RJ45 cable.
> the documentation says that i have to use the db25 to RJ45 cable.
> but i do not have a second COM Port with an RS232 interface.
> any advice ?
> 
> 
> thanx 
> hans
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Re: PPPoE

[Circusnuts]

Check out RFC 1483...  this covers PPPOE (Point to Point over Ethernet) &
PPPOA (Point to Point over ATM)...

Good Luck !!!
Phil

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>
>   Is their a website that explains what PPPoE is? I know what it stands
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CCIE written

[John Barnes]

I took and passed the CCIE written today.  Not that
bad a test coming off the CCNP track.  Honestly, I'd
never even touched a switch before about 4 months ago.
 Wish I could say more about it, but it really is a
fair test.  Sure made me feel better about that crappy
interview I had this week.

makes 7 tests in 10 weeks... :)

Good luck!
-john

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Connect to Catalyst WS-C1900 console

[huan]

Want to connect to 1900 console from DB-9 serial port (hyper term should be
OK, it can access the other routers), use DB-9 to DB-9 null cable (cross).
But can't get connection.

Thanks
ZH


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2900/3500XL Cluster Config STP

[Adrian Chew]

Curious question - anyone knows if a clustered stack of 2900/3500s will
appear as a single STP bridge to other switches or each cluster switch
appears as a seperate bridge?  I'm guessing each switch is treated as a
seperate bridge entity for the purposes of STP.

The cause of concern would be if one stacks 16 3500s using Gigastack
connectors into a cluster, and use the remaining Gig port on the top and
bottom switches as uplinks, you'd end up with a pretty large STP diameter
caused by the stacking...  assuming the cluster is split right down the
middle with a port between switches 8 and 9 in blocking state, the maximum
diameter would be 17? (the 8 switches on either side plus the
distribution/core switch the stack connects to).  If one tunes STP
accordingly, it would lengthen the network outages during STP convergence.

Any thoughts on this - and designs with stacks of 2900s/3500s that are
stringed one to another rather than each uplinked seperately to the uplink
switch?

Regards,
Adrian


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Re: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]

[jason yee]

I believe is something to do with no service 
statement on the top of the config file , can't
remember what is the exact service to remove but this
is it



--- Roger Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dear Networkers,
> 
> Please tell me how to configure my 2611 router so
> that I don't constantly get
> the following messages:
> 
> 
> Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera.cfg ... [timed out]
> 
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Re: passing grade

[jason yee]

Passing grade for Routing 2.0 is 690 
--- "Michael H. Noble"
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Re: 2948G L3, route between Vlan

[jason yee]

You are use a router or a high end switch like 6509
with a RSM (route switch module) to do the routing for
you 
--- BB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi
> i've setup two vlan in the switch.
> but packet can't route from one vlan to other
> vlan...
> how can i enable routing between vlan?
> 
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Re: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!

[Ejay Hire]

Starting with the Front-engined models introduced in the late 1990's, all of 
them.


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Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Cthulu, CCIE Candidate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 16:29:23 -0400

/
As a prior owner of a 1967 Volkswagen Beetle,I don't know of any Volkswagen
Beetle that had a radiatior.
\



Quoting "Cthulu, CCIE Candidate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

 > There is also the possiblity that the CCIE was testing you, to see how 
you
 > would handle one of your fellow workers spouting wrong information.
 >
 > I have sometimes deliberately and incorrectly stated some wrong 
information
 > to find out exactly how much someone knew about something, and how they
 > would handle it to hear someone else give out incorrect information.
 >
 > It 's like an experienced mechanic asking a new mechanic  "How often do 
you
 > change the flush the radiator in a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle?"  as a way of
 > determing what they know.
 >
 > Just a thought!
 >
 > Charles
 >
 > P.S.  You don't:  the 1969 beetle does not have a radiator!
 >
 >
 > ""Leigh Anne Chisholm"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
 > 001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 > > John/Sam
 > >
 > > I interviewed with an organization recently and completely blew one
 > question.  I was asked what in an SMTP header will help troubleshoot 
email
 > delivery problems.  Now I immediately start thinking about framing 
formats,
 > and I don't know the frame format of an SMTP header.  I panic.  I say I
 > don't know.
 > >
 > > I get home, I realize they weren't asking what field in a frame, but
 > rather what information in the header that you can see as plain as day 
that
 > gets tacked on to an email message.  I feel very silly...
 > >
 > > I emailed the hiring manager, and asked if this is what they were
 > referring to, and provided him with a few examples of when I've used the
 > SMTP header to troubleshoot delivery problems before.
 > >
 > > If I get the job, wonderful--they like my initiative following up.  If 
I
 > don't... oh well.  I've been thinking about changing careers, because 
there
 > are very few companies in my city that I would like to work for...
 > >
 > > John--what if the CCIE was trying to find out not just what technical
 > knowledge you had, but how you handled difficult situations where two
 > people
 > who worked together thought differently about what was right.  Would you
 > defer to the CCIE just because they're a CCIE or would you take 
initiative
 > to find the correct answer?  Would you follow up?  Maybe... maybe not.
 > It's
 > hard to guess what's going on in the heads of interviewers.  I like to 
keep
 > a positive attitude and not think the worst.  I'd HATE to think a CCIE
 > wouldn't know simple network concepts.
 > >
 > > > -Original Message-
 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf 
Of
 > > > Sam Adams
 > > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:57 AM
 > > > To: 'John Barnes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > > > Subject: RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > John,
 > > >
 > > > Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you 
and
 > the
 > > > interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left
 > > > wondering
 > > > if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I
 > > > wasn't offered
 > > > a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.
 > > >
 > > > -Original Message-
 > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf 
Of
 > > > John Barnes
 > > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
 > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 > > > Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
 > > >
 > > >
 > > > I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
 > > > I'm not really sure were to go with this.
 > > >
 > > > He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
 > > > some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
 > > > the answers he wanted were wrong.  I'm going to post
 > > > the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
 > > > claimed to be correct.  If I'm wrong on these, I'd
 > > > like to know.  If I'm right, how would you deal with
 > > > this kind of thing?
 > > >
 > > > 1) What is the size of a token ring frame?
 > > > My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
 > > > His answer: 3 bytes..
 > > >
 > > > Isn't that the size of the Token frame?
 > > >
 > > > 2) What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn't this
 > > > about the same question as #1?)
 > > > My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn't
 > > > remember the exact number)
 > > > His answer: about 4470 bytes .
 > > >
 > > > Ahh... what?  He claimed I was thinking about
 > > > FDDI.g  Ah. Who's thinking about what?
 > > >
 > > > 3) What is the decision making process involved when a
 > > > packet e

Re: Configuring Catalyst 1200 ?

[Ejay Hire]

That is illogical.  The switch shouldn't care if it's a DB9 or DB25 on the 
other end of the cable.  Connect to the console port and Power cycle the 
switch.  If you see Gibberish, the Baud Rate is wrong.  9600 is the default, 
but depending on the config-register, it could be 9600,4800,2400, or 1200. 
(Other comm settings are 8,none,1)


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Reply-To: "Hans Schimek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Configuring Catalyst 1200 ?
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 22:10:40 +0200

i got a catalyst 1200 .
it cannot be configured via the
db-9 to RJ45 cable.
the documentation says that i have to use the db25 to RJ45 cable.
but i do not have a second COM Port with an RS232 interface.
any advice ?


thanx
hans

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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Ejay Hire]

I've been saying that the consulting company I work for was my pimp.  Now I 
guess everyone else is catching on.


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From: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,   
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
CC: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:03:10 -0500

Man don't you know it

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.

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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Looking for love in all the wrong places

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damien
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ dating
service.  :~)

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From: Kenny Sallee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY

OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date and
100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.

Kenny

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From: Kenny Sallee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: CCIE lab date swap

I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap dates
with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.

Thanks

Kenny
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Re: trace route question

[Charles Ryan]

In your traceroute, the router has multiple paths to the destination, that's
why you get the output that you have below. On your router, if you do a
"show ip route www.ibm.com", note the next hop address, then do a show ip
route on that next hop ip address, chances are you will have multiple paths
to that next hop address.

Chuck

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Subject: trace route question


>   Correct me if I'm wrong.  In the below trace route, the three entries in
> the first hop are the three attempts to route from hop 1 to hop2, correct?
>   It is not the case that the router cannot determine how to get to
> www.ibm.com.  I have a client that thinks the router is sending a single
> packet from s20.r8.mtcrcl to s1.r1.mrbakr to s0.r8.mtcrcl before sending
it
> to the next hop.  Comments?  Explanation?
>
> 1 s20.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.77) 4 msec
> s1.r1.mtbakr.infoave.net (216.X.X.81) 4 msec
> s0.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.69) 4 msec
>   2 sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 32 msec
> border3-serial3-3-0.Denver.cw.net (204.70.30.53) 24 msec
> sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 28 msec
>   3 sl-bb10-sea-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.109) 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec
>
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Re: Sprint wire management class

[vlan2]

I got AMP certified in cat5 and fiber and administration...It's sort of a
joke, ya do it every 2 years.  Face facts, when you are persuing Cisco
Certification, everything else looks "half assed".

Don't forget to study this weekend everybody!

vlan2




> On Feb 4,  3:16pm, "Richard A. Holland" wrote:
> }
> } So the instructor proceeds to talk a bit about networking, and refers to
> } Toke Ring as 802.4.  802.4 Is token passing using a bus topology, yet he
> } refered to 802.4 as token passing in a ring.  Anybody else take classes
from
> } "leading vendors of network equipment" and notice their instructors have
> } some crossed wires?  This kind of concerns me...
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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trexken]

Sounds like the guy is serious.  Heck if he wants the date, he must already 
know the information and configs.  Instead of flaming him maybe we should 
spend more time hitting the books or playing with the equipment.  My 2 cents

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2948G L3, route between Vlan

[BB]

Hi
i've setup two vlan in the switch.
but packet can't route from one vlan to other vlan...
how can i enable routing between vlan?

thx
BB


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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Jon]

I can see it now..  companies buying all the CCIE lab dates for $1000, and
reselling them to the highest bidder!


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Re: Swap CCIE R&S Oct 2&# lab date!

[Francisco Muniz]

I you look up a little bit (in my newsreader at least ;-) 
Kenny Sallee ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) will pay $100 for your date! Good luck
with the lab! 

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RE: line protocol down

[Traister, Blake (SBCI)]

I think turfing your mail before its delivered is a better option.  Thats my
usual fix for cowards and primadonnas.  Thanks for reminding me why I do
that.  Keep your trap shut...you are a brave little fellow.  You are also in
the wrong place.

Darth

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I do not think I owe him an apology, and I have the right to speak my mind.
Follow your own advice and ignore the message if you do not like it, and
keep your trap shut.
 
EF

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Edgar,

Don't you see everybody here is trying to help? That's what the purpose of
this group, not only people ask questions, but we all watch and learn from
them. 

I think you own an apology to Jason. You can always ignore the messages if
you do not like it and keep your mouth shut. 

 
 
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> Jason,
> 
> it is OK not to understand something , and ask questions, but you have no
> clue, and expect others who are not getting paid to do YOUR job to do it
for
> you. Why should we help you fix the problems YOU are getting paid to fix.
> Get some training, and study, help yourself. If you want my help the price
> is $100.00 per hour at a minimum.
> 
> My .02
> 
> EF 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yee, Jason [   mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2000 1:56 AM
> To: cisco@groupstudy. com (E-mail)
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> 
> 
> 
> hi , 
> 
> I have problems with my frame-relay serial link attatched is the router
> configuration
> 
> physical layer confirmed is ok as carrier is up but my serial interface
> still showing interface up line protocol down
> 
> Any inputs will be greatly appreciated
> 
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> thanks
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sheref Mohamed]

Peoples will start making money from swapping the
dates !
--- RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Looking for love in all the wrong places
>   -Original Message-
>   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> damien
>   Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
>   To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> MONEY
> 
> 
>   the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not
> a prostitution/ dating
> service.  :~)
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> MONEY
> 
> 
> OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50
> dollars for a November date
> and 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is
> complete of course.
> 
> Kenny
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Kenny Sallee
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
>   Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> 
> 
>   I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If
> anyone would like to swap
> dates with me preferrably in October/November please
> email or call me.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Kenny
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   503-205-1404
> 
> 
> 


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RE: max no of connections for vty

[Sam Adams]

Yup, he's right.

SF-Cisco1(config)#line vty ?
  <0-197>  First Line number

SF-Cisco1(config)#line vty

>From my router.



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Ok I think that settles it then.  I'm running 12.07T 3DES/FW/IDS on my
router not the Enterprise version.  So that should solve Jason's problem.
That is, if he has enough flash to run an enterprise version.

John

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Subject: Re: max no of connections for vty


> According to my CCNA Study guide by Todd Lammle, pg 194, "Routers that are
> not running the Enterprise edition of the Cisco IOS default to five VTY
> lines, 0 through 4.  However, if you have the Enterprise edition, you will
> have significantly more. The router we are using for this section has 198
> (0-197). The best way to find out how many lines you have is to use the
> question mark.
>
> Router(config-line)#line vty 0 ?
> <1-197>Last Line Number
> 
>
> 
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I tried on my 2600 at home.  Wouldnt allow it.  Have you actually done
it?
> >
> >  - Original Message -
> >  From: Thomas Peroutka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: jason yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:59 AM
> >  Subject: Re: max no of connections for vty
> >
> >
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 197
> >
> >  197 is the maximum number of telnet sessions; you can use any number
> >  in between, so for your constellation (24 students, one teacher) for
> example
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 25
> >
> >  Friday, September 15, 2000, 7:24:13 AM, you wrote:
> >
> >  jy> hi ,
> >  jy> I am a instructor currently delivering CCNA course.The
> >  jy> setup of the classroom consists of 2 routers but I
> >  jy> have got 24 students telnetting to the 2 routers . I
> >  jy> have problems for them telnetting to the routers
> >  jy> because the max no of connections for the telnet
> >  jy> sessions are 5 , my question is how can I increase the
> >  jy> no. of connections so as to accomodate all the
> >  jy> students without buying more routers.
> >
> >
> >  jy> thanks
> >
> >  jy> suaveguru
> >
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Re: Sprint wire management class

[John Nemeth]

On Feb 4,  3:16pm, "Richard A. Holland" wrote:
}
} So the instructor proceeds to talk a bit about networking, and refers to
} Toke Ring as 802.4.  802.4 Is token passing using a bus topology, yet he
} refered to 802.4 as token passing in a ring.  Anybody else take classes from
} "leading vendors of network equipment" and notice their instructors have
} some crossed wires?  This kind of concerns me...

 Since when was Sprint a vendor of network equipment, much less a
"leading vendor"?  Network services, yes; but, not equipment.

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PPPoE

[AABAN34]

  Is their a website that explains what PPPoE is? I know what it stands for. 


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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor]

Oh my god, you are SOOO right!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 2:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


No no no, you guys have it all wrong...this isn't about money...he mentioned
a decline in Morales, and he's absolutely right - Hector Morales (star of
such comedy classics as "Oh God," "Herbie Goes Bananas," and "Three Amigos")
hasn't done *any* work since 1988's "Out of the Dark"!


- Original Message -
From: Frank Wells
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Being able to buy whatever you need is what makes America great!!


>From: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Kenny Sallee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:28:36 -0700
>
>Kenny:
>
>I hope you can calm down a second, take a deep breath and re-read the
>thread.  We were defending you.
>
>I think you need to reconsider who you're posting to, or how you're
>replying
>to posts on here when you are angry.
>
>Chill the hell out and don't let this Cisco thing get to you.  It's NOT
>worth it.  Now go pass your damn lab!
>
>Signed,
>
>A Proud IT "Man" of the Evening
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:33 PM
>To: RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
>Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
>   How in the world can this be considered "a decline in morales"?  Maybe
>I'm
>naive but how does this have anything to do with my morales?  When you go
>to
>the store and purchase something, what are you doing?  Wait I'll answer YOU
>ARE PAYING FOR IT.  If there's an auction for something and you outbid
>someone, what is that?  Wait I'll answer YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  As far as
>I'm concerned you 2 don't have a clue.  Are you both self employed?  NO,
>then by that standard you are "IT whores" also.  you are providing services
>to someone else, and whether you are small minded enough to think you are
>actually being paid show's your stupidity.  If making more money helps me
>support my family, then I'll pay 100 bucks to get another shot at a
>certification
>
>As this list goes, if you don't like the subject line, ignore it.
>
>Kenny
>
>PS - I have a lab date now for Oct 2nd and 3rd...
>
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>"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:03 AM
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> > Man don't you know it
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
> > To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: RHM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
> > To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Looking for love in all the wrong places
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > damien
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> > To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/
>dating
> > service.  :~)
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> > OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date
>and
> > 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> > Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> >
> > I'm scheduled fo

Re: BSCN Test (Routing)

[michael champion]

Cisco is apparently using a logical "building-block" approach to their
certification objectives. Assume that if you are taking a CCNP-level exam
that you are already expected to know any information required for the CCNA
(review the CCNA objectives to be sure you are confident in that material).
It would be a violation of the NDA (Confidentiality Agreement) to discuss
what subjects are on the exam other than rehashing the stated objectives or
perhaps a relevant course outline.

Regards,
MLC

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> I was wondering if anyone has taken it.  If so, are there any other
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RE: CCIE Groupstudy.com List

[Kirk Bollinger]

same here.

-Kirk

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Louie Belt wrote:

> I'm in the same boat.  I've been waiting a month to be added to the list
> with no response.  Has anyone else had success?
> 
> LAB
> 
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> 
> 
>Does anyone know what is going on with the CCIE
> groupstudy.com list?  I have requested that I be added
> to it 3 time now without any response.  My practical
> is in less than 3 months and I would like to get on.
> If anyone has any insight on how to expedite this
> process, please send me an E-Mail at:
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> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
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RE: Swap CCIE R&S Oct 2&# lab date!

[Louie Belt]

Eric,
When are you wanting to swap to? (Earlier or Later - and if so, how much
later?)

My Date is Oct 30 & 31st in RTP.

Louie

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Eric Lemmons
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:40 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Swap CCIE R&S Oct 2&# lab date!


I'm looking for someone who will swap lab dates
with me. I'm scheduled for Oct. 2nd and 3rd, for
the CCIE R&S lab in San Jose.
Please, HELP!!! :)
Call me or email me.

Eric Lemmons
Phone: 512-491-5362
Work: 512-742-1384

Thanks, everyone!
Eric

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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Bradley J. Wilson]

No no no, you guys have it all wrong...this isn't about money...he mentioned
a decline in Morales, and he's absolutely right - Hector Morales (star of
such comedy classics as "Oh God," "Herbie Goes Bananas," and "Three Amigos")
hasn't done *any* work since 1988's "Out of the Dark"!


- Original Message -
From: Frank Wells
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:12 PM
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Being able to buy whatever you need is what makes America great!!


>From: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Kenny Sallee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:28:36 -0700
>
>Kenny:
>
>I hope you can calm down a second, take a deep breath and re-read the
>thread.  We were defending you.
>
>I think you need to reconsider who you're posting to, or how you're
>replying
>to posts on here when you are angry.
>
>Chill the hell out and don't let this Cisco thing get to you.  It's NOT
>worth it.  Now go pass your damn lab!
>
>Signed,
>
>A Proud IT "Man" of the Evening
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:33 PM
>To: RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
>Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
>   How in the world can this be considered "a decline in morales"?  Maybe
>I'm
>naive but how does this have anything to do with my morales?  When you go
>to
>the store and purchase something, what are you doing?  Wait I'll answer YOU
>ARE PAYING FOR IT.  If there's an auction for something and you outbid
>someone, what is that?  Wait I'll answer YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  As far as
>I'm concerned you 2 don't have a clue.  Are you both self employed?  NO,
>then by that standard you are "IT whores" also.  you are providing services
>to someone else, and whether you are small minded enough to think you are
>actually being paid show's your stupidity.  If making more money helps me
>support my family, then I'll pay 100 bucks to get another shot at a
>certification
>
>As this list goes, if you don't like the subject line, ignore it.
>
>Kenny
>
>PS - I have a lab date now for Oct 2nd and 3rd...
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:03 AM
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> > Man don't you know it
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
> > To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: RHM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
> > To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Looking for love in all the wrong places
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > damien
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> > To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/
>dating
> > service.  :~)
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> > OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date
>and
> > 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> > Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> >
> > I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap
>dates
> > with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kenny
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 503-205-1404


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Swap CCIE R&S Oct 2&# lab date!

[Eric Lemmons]

I'm looking for someone who will swap lab dates
with me. I'm scheduled for Oct. 2nd and 3rd, for
the CCIE R&S lab in San Jose.
Please, HELP!!! :)
Call me or email me.

Eric Lemmons
Phone: 512-491-5362
Work: 512-742-1384

Thanks, everyone!
Eric

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Re: Fw: All CCNA 2.0 & CCNP 2.o Beta Questions - FREE

[WKelly]

Guys

The best practice is surely to write your own questions based on the
course text. You will find in order to frame the questions, you need to
know the answers and therefore the subject. And as Frank mentioned, test
questions then become irrelevant. I've tried this on 14 Prometric exams
for a range of qualifications including Cisco.. and I have managed to
pass every one [thank God].

WKelly


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> Have you lazy bastards tried studying yet?  Why would you need the
> questions if you know the answers?
>
> Muhammad wrote:
>
>> I am also in need of a copy of the CCNP questions and material
>> regards,Muhammad
>> - Original Message -
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>> To: JJE ; CiscoKing ; [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Friday, August 25,
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>>
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>>
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sam Adams]

Ok, who took his $100.00.  You owe us some beers!  :)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:29 PM
To: Kenny Sallee; RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Kenny:

I hope you can calm down a second, take a deep breath and re-read the
thread.  We were defending you.

I think you need to reconsider who you're posting to, or how you're replying
to posts on here when you are angry.

Chill the hell out and don't let this Cisco thing get to you.  It's NOT
worth it.  Now go pass your damn lab!

Signed,

A Proud IT "Man" of the Evening


-Original Message-
From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:33 PM
To: RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


  How in the world can this be considered "a decline in morales"?  Maybe I'm
naive but how does this have anything to do with my morales?  When you go to
the store and purchase something, what are you doing?  Wait I'll answer YOU
ARE PAYING FOR IT.  If there's an auction for something and you outbid
someone, what is that?  Wait I'll answer YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  As far as
I'm concerned you 2 don't have a clue.  Are you both self employed?  NO,
then by that standard you are "IT whores" also.  you are providing services
to someone else, and whether you are small minded enough to think you are
actually being paid show's your stupidity.  If making more money helps me
support my family, then I'll pay 100 bucks to get another shot at a
certification

As this list goes, if you don't like the subject line, ignore it.

Kenny

PS - I have a lab date now for Oct 2nd and 3rd...

- Original Message -
From: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


> Man don't you know it
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
> To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RHM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
> To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> Looking for love in all the wrong places
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> damien
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ dating
> service.  :~)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
> OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date
and
> 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
>
> Kenny
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> Subject: CCIE lab date swap
>
> I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap
dates
> with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kenny
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 503-205-1404
>
>
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Frank Wells]

Being able to buy whatever you need is what makes America great!!


>From: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" 
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Kenny Sallee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>"Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:28:36 -0700
>
>Kenny:
>
>I hope you can calm down a second, take a deep breath and re-read the
>thread.  We were defending you.
>
>I think you need to reconsider who you're posting to, or how you're 
>replying
>to posts on here when you are angry.
>
>Chill the hell out and don't let this Cisco thing get to you.  It's NOT
>worth it.  Now go pass your damn lab!
>
>Signed,
>
>A Proud IT "Man" of the Evening
>
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:33 PM
>To: RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
>Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
>   How in the world can this be considered "a decline in morales"?  Maybe 
>I'm
>naive but how does this have anything to do with my morales?  When you go 
>to
>the store and purchase something, what are you doing?  Wait I'll answer YOU
>ARE PAYING FOR IT.  If there's an auction for something and you outbid
>someone, what is that?  Wait I'll answer YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  As far as
>I'm concerned you 2 don't have a clue.  Are you both self employed?  NO,
>then by that standard you are "IT whores" also.  you are providing services
>to someone else, and whether you are small minded enough to think you are
>actually being paid show's your stupidity.  If making more money helps me
>support my family, then I'll pay 100 bucks to get another shot at a
>certification
>
>As this list goes, if you don't like the subject line, ignore it.
>
>Kenny
>
>PS - I have a lab date now for Oct 2nd and 3rd...
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
>"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:03 AM
>Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> > Man don't you know it
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
> > To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: RHM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
> > To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > Looking for love in all the wrong places
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > damien
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> > To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> >
> > the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ 
>dating
> > service.  :~)
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
> >
> > OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date
>and
> > 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
> >
> > Kenny
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee 
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> > Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> >
> > I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap
>dates
> > with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Kenny
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > 503-205-1404
> >
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Re: Layer 2 Addressing

[Ed Crowe]

Neil,
How did the canonical/MAC issue arise, and why is it so confusing?

I think it was a mistake.  A mistake made because we are all guilty of using
terminology that means different things to different people.  We often do
not bother to define something because it is so "natural" that "everyone
knows it".  Making this mistake is probably how the definers-of-standards
and the manufacturers-of-hardware got us into this little mess.

I'm going to try to avoid terms like: "endian" (big and little), memory
(computer and adapter), "significance" (most and least significant) unless
essential.  Most issues of memory-addressing --- on the basis of byte,
word, integer, string, or whatever --- are only indirectly related to this
question.

So what are we left with?
1.  Sequential transmission of bits on the wire.
2.  Representation and identification of these bits, on paper, in the
standard
3.  Representation and identification of the bits-within-a-byte, on paper,
in hardware documentation of a computer.

To be more specific, the first issue is: sequential sending of a frame of
bytes, one bit at a time, so that the collection can be identically
reconstructed at the receiver.  So this first issue is not a problem as long
as whatever-we-do at the sender is reciprocated at the receiver.

The second issue is also simple.  LAN standards involve definition of
meanings of various parts of the bit-stream.  To explain what they wanted,
the definers-of-standards had to represent their concepts on paper.  To
represent the bit-sequence, they wrote down bits from left-to-right.
Left-to-right, naturally, because --- in western culture --- our
time-sequence is left-to-right for reading/writing.

As part of the standard, the beginning of the frame includes an address, and
the standard defines that the first bit (first, in time sequence, naturally)
of the address denotes whether the address is multicast.  Because of the way
they wrote it down, this "first bit" was the left-most bit.
As an example, just take a possible first byte and write it down on paper:
01000101
The first bit of this first byte has the value zero, which the standard
defines as meaning that the address is not multicast.  The
definers-of-standards decided, naturally, to number the bits in the same
left-to-right sequence.  It would have been very strange for them to have
decided otherwise.  They assumed that this "natural" numbering would be
fine.  And it is, until a hardware engineer has to implement it.

Now for the third part.  Manufacturers-of-hardware also represent bits and
bytes.  They also enumerate bits-within-a-byte to allow documentation of
their product.
HOWEVER...
Within a computer, there is no inherent time-sequence to guide the numbering
scheme.  Within a computer, each byte is transferred "in parallel".  No bit
arrives before or after any other.  There is no "natural" direction for
numbering.  Most hardware designers number the representation of their
bits-within-a-byte from RIGHT-TO-LEFT.

So put yourself in the position of the designer of the adapter.  He has to
serialize each byte.  He has a quick look at the standard and sees that the
bits on the wire are numbered in an ascending sequence.  So he builds a bit
of kit to do it.  To send the byte above, most computers then have to
transfer this byte:
10100010
(If ever he finds out, a good hardware designer knows that any complaint is
just one of many, many, many issues that whining, lazy programmers are
always dredging up, to try to get hardware engineers to do their jobs for
them.)
;-)

So, I think that is how the problem started...  Then it was made worse...

Despite the fact that LANs work perfectly well with this anomaly, the
inadequate definition in the earlier standards (802.3 and 802.4) was
addressed in the later ones.

For 802.5 and FDDI the definers-of-standards insisted on serializing from
the left-most bit of (most) computers' representations. If they had just
left it the same it probably would never have been important.
After all. how important is it to know whether the parity bit for async
serial goes first or last?

Anyway, look on the bright side, it makes various forms of mixed-media
bridging more entertaining.

Best regards,
Ed Crowe



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> I have asked this question once before and had little luck in finding the
> answers.
> I have a problem in understanding the issues concerning canonical vs.
> non-canonical addressing













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September 30 CCIE RTP Lab Date for Swap

[Richard Dollins]

Hello

I have a CCIE Lab date of September 30 in RTP, would like to swap with
someone for a RTP date in November or early December.. Email me if you
can swap..

Thanks

Rick

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CCNA exam

[Kracavetc]

could some one please tell about the new ccna test i'm taking my;n in two days
...i would like to know what r they concentrated on?

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Re: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!

[dsilva]

/
As a prior owner of a 1967 Volkswagen Beetle,I don't know of any Volkswagen 
Beetle that had a radiatior.
\



Quoting "Cthulu, CCIE Candidate" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> There is also the possiblity that the CCIE was testing you, to see how you
> would handle one of your fellow workers spouting wrong information.
> 
> I have sometimes deliberately and incorrectly stated some wrong information
> to find out exactly how much someone knew about something, and how they
> would handle it to hear someone else give out incorrect information.
> 
> It 's like an experienced mechanic asking a new mechanic  "How often do you
> change the flush the radiator in a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle?"  as a way of
> determing what they know.
> 
> Just a thought!
> 
> Charles
> 
> P.S.  You don't:  the 1969 beetle does not have a radiator!
> 
> 
> ""Leigh Anne Chisholm"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> 001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > John/Sam
> >
> > I interviewed with an organization recently and completely blew one
> question.  I was asked what in an SMTP header will help troubleshoot email
> delivery problems.  Now I immediately start thinking about framing formats,
> and I don't know the frame format of an SMTP header.  I panic.  I say I
> don't know.
> >
> > I get home, I realize they weren't asking what field in a frame, but
> rather what information in the header that you can see as plain as day that
> gets tacked on to an email message.  I feel very silly...
> >
> > I emailed the hiring manager, and asked if this is what they were
> referring to, and provided him with a few examples of when I've used the
> SMTP header to troubleshoot delivery problems before.
> >
> > If I get the job, wonderful--they like my initiative following up.  If I
> don't... oh well.  I've been thinking about changing careers, because there
> are very few companies in my city that I would like to work for...
> >
> > John--what if the CCIE was trying to find out not just what technical
> knowledge you had, but how you handled difficult situations where two
> people
> who worked together thought differently about what was right.  Would you
> defer to the CCIE just because they're a CCIE or would you take initiative
> to find the correct answer?  Would you follow up?  Maybe... maybe not. 
> It's
> hard to guess what's going on in the heads of interviewers.  I like to keep
> a positive attitude and not think the worst.  I'd HATE to think a CCIE
> wouldn't know simple network concepts.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > Sam Adams
> > > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:57 AM
> > > To: 'John Barnes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> > >
> > >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you and
> the
> > > interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left
> > > wondering
> > > if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I
> > > wasn't offered
> > > a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > > John Barnes
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> > >
> > >
> > > I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
> > > I'm not really sure were to go with this.
> > >
> > > He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
> > > some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
> > > the answers he wanted were wrong.  I'm going to post
> > > the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
> > > claimed to be correct.  If I'm wrong on these, I'd
> > > like to know.  If I'm right, how would you deal with
> > > this kind of thing?
> > >
> > > 1) What is the size of a token ring frame?
> > > My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
> > > His answer: 3 bytes..
> > >
> > > Isn't that the size of the Token frame?
> > >
> > > 2) What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn't this
> > > about the same question as #1?)
> > > My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn't
> > > remember the exact number)
> > > His answer: about 4470 bytes .
> > >
> > > Ahh... what?  He claimed I was thinking about
> > > FDDI.g  Ah. Who's thinking about what?
> > >
> > > 3) What is the decision making process involved when a
> > > packet enters a router?  What three criteria are used
> > > to make this decision?
> > >My answer:  It depends. Is this the first
> > > packet with this destination to arrive at this router?
> > >  What switching mode is the router configured for.
> > >
> > >His answer:  Forget about that stuff. how does
> > > it determine which route to use.
> > >
> > >My answer:  longest match in the routing table
> > >
> > >His answer:  What

RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor]

Kenny:

I hope you can calm down a second, take a deep breath and re-read the
thread.  We were defending you.

I think you need to reconsider who you're posting to, or how you're replying
to posts on here when you are angry.

Chill the hell out and don't let this Cisco thing get to you.  It's NOT
worth it.  Now go pass your damn lab!

Signed,

A Proud IT "Man" of the Evening


-Original Message-
From: Kenny Sallee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 1:33 PM
To: RHM; Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


  How in the world can this be considered "a decline in morales"?  Maybe I'm
naive but how does this have anything to do with my morales?  When you go to
the store and purchase something, what are you doing?  Wait I'll answer YOU
ARE PAYING FOR IT.  If there's an auction for something and you outbid
someone, what is that?  Wait I'll answer YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT.  As far as
I'm concerned you 2 don't have a clue.  Are you both self employed?  NO,
then by that standard you are "IT whores" also.  you are providing services
to someone else, and whether you are small minded enough to think you are
actually being paid show's your stupidity.  If making more money helps me
support my family, then I'll pay 100 bucks to get another shot at a
certification

As this list goes, if you don't like the subject line, ignore it.

Kenny

PS - I have a lab date now for Oct 2nd and 3rd...

- Original Message -
From: "RHM" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
"damien" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Kenny Sallee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 11:03 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


> Man don't you know it
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
> To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: RHM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
> To: damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> Looking for love in all the wrong places
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> damien
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
>
> the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ dating
> service.  :~)
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY
>
> OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date
and
> 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
>
> Kenny
>
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee 
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> Subject: CCIE lab date swap
>
> I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap
dates
> with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
>
> Thanks
>
> Kenny
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> 503-205-1404
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passing grade

[Michael H. Noble]

Does anyone know the passing grade for the CCNP tests. I took the ACRC
last year and it was 70. Do the new tests require a higher passing
grade?

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Re: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]

[Thomas Lisa]

In global config mode enter:  no service config
Then: copy run start
At next boot up it will not try and auto load configuration files from a network
server.

Complete explanation is here:
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/cs/csprtf/csprtf2/cscfgfil.htm#12622

(watch that wrap)

Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Roger Wright wrote:

> Dear Networkers,
>
> Please tell me how to configure my 2611 router so that I don't constantly get
> the following messages:
>
> Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera.cfg ... [timed out]
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Roger

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Re: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]

[Rob Fielding]

Do a show run.  Somewhere near the top, there should be a line that says
"service config".  Remove it by typing "no service config" in global config
mode.

-Rob Fielding, CCNP


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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:06 PM
Subject: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]


> Dear Networkers,
>
> Please tell me how to configure my 2611 router so that I don't constantly
get
> the following messages:
>
>
> Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera.cfg ... [timed out]
>
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Roger
>
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Configuring Catalyst 1200 ?

[Hans Schimek]

i got a catalyst 1200 .
it cannot be configured via the 
db-9 to RJ45 cable.
the documentation says that i have to use the db25 to RJ45 cable.
but i do not have a second COM Port with an RS232 interface.
any advice ?


thanx 
hans

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Re: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]

[Kristopher B. Climie]

Try, "no service config".  For some reason, the router tries to load the
files from a tftp server first, so you tell it not to with that command.

K

-
Kristopher B. Climie, CCNP, CCDP

> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Roger Wright)
> Organization: GroupStudy.com Discussion Groups
> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> Date: 15 Sep 2000 15:08:53 -0400
> Subject: How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]
> 
> Dear Networkers,
> 
> Please tell me how to configure my 2611 router so that I don't constantly get
> the following messages:
> 
> 
> Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera-confg ... [timed out]
> Loading routera.cfg ... [timed out]
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> 
> Roger
> 
> 
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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Donald B Johnson Jr]

Yeah but if he gets his date and passes you will all think he walks on
water.
This is the american way to pay for what you want.
Hope you find someone to swap.
Duck
- Original Message -
From: Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; damien <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Kenny Sallee
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


> I think this mail account should be suspended at least
> for a while, this is insulting.
>
> --- RHM <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Looking for love in all the wrong places
> >   -Original Message-
> >   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > damien
> >   Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
> >   To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> > MONEY
> >
> >
> >   the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not
> > a prostitution/ dating
> > service.  :~)
> > - Original Message -
> > From: Kenny Sallee
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> > Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> > MONEY
> >
> >
> > OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50
> > dollars for a November date
> > and 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is
> > complete of course.
> >
> > Kenny
> >   - Original Message -
> >   From: Kenny Sallee
> >   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
> >   Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> >
> >
> >   I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If
> > anyone would like to swap
> > dates with me preferrably in October/November please
> > email or call me.
> >
> >   Thanks
> >
> >   Kenny
> >   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   503-205-1404
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: max no of connections for vty

[John Kaberna]

Ok I think that settles it then.  I'm running 12.07T 3DES/FW/IDS on my
router not the Enterprise version.  So that should solve Jason's problem.
That is, if he has enough flash to run an enterprise version.

John

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 5:44 AM
Subject: Re: max no of connections for vty


> According to my CCNA Study guide by Todd Lammle, pg 194, "Routers that are
> not running the Enterprise edition of the Cisco IOS default to five VTY
> lines, 0 through 4.  However, if you have the Enterprise edition, you will
> have significantly more. The router we are using for this section has 198
> (0-197). The best way to find out how many lines you have is to use the
> question mark.
>
> Router(config-line)#line vty 0 ?
> <1-197>Last Line Number
> 
>
> 
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > I tried on my 2600 at home.  Wouldnt allow it.  Have you actually done
it?
> >
> >  - Original Message -
> >  From: Thomas Peroutka <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: jason yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:59 AM
> >  Subject: Re: max no of connections for vty
> >
> >
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 197
> >
> >  197 is the maximum number of telnet sessions; you can use any number
> >  in between, so for your constellation (24 students, one teacher) for
> example
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 25
> >
> >  Friday, September 15, 2000, 7:24:13 AM, you wrote:
> >
> >  jy> hi ,
> >  jy> I am a instructor currently delivering CCNA course.The
> >  jy> setup of the classroom consists of 2 routers but I
> >  jy> have got 24 students telnetting to the 2 routers . I
> >  jy> have problems for them telnetting to the routers
> >  jy> because the max no of connections for the telnet
> >  jy> sessions are 5 , my question is how can I increase the
> >  jy> no. of connections so as to accomodate all the
> >  jy> students without buying more routers.
> >
> >
> >  jy> thanks
> >
> >  jy> suaveguru
> >
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Re: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!

[Cthulu, CCIE Candidate]

There is also the possiblity that the CCIE was testing you, to see how you
would handle one of your fellow workers spouting wrong information.

I have sometimes deliberately and incorrectly stated some wrong information
to find out exactly how much someone knew about something, and how they
would handle it to hear someone else give out incorrect information.

It 's like an experienced mechanic asking a new mechanic  "How often do you
change the flush the radiator in a 1969 Volkswagen Beetle?"  as a way of
determing what they know.

Just a thought!

Charles

P.S.  You don't:  the 1969 beetle does not have a radiator!


""Leigh Anne Chisholm"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:001c01c01f48$07320980$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> John/Sam
>
> I interviewed with an organization recently and completely blew one
question.  I was asked what in an SMTP header will help troubleshoot email
delivery problems.  Now I immediately start thinking about framing formats,
and I don't know the frame format of an SMTP header.  I panic.  I say I
don't know.
>
> I get home, I realize they weren't asking what field in a frame, but
rather what information in the header that you can see as plain as day that
gets tacked on to an email message.  I feel very silly...
>
> I emailed the hiring manager, and asked if this is what they were
referring to, and provided him with a few examples of when I've used the
SMTP header to troubleshoot delivery problems before.
>
> If I get the job, wonderful--they like my initiative following up.  If I
don't... oh well.  I've been thinking about changing careers, because there
are very few companies in my city that I would like to work for...
>
> John--what if the CCIE was trying to find out not just what technical
knowledge you had, but how you handled difficult situations where two people
who worked together thought differently about what was right.  Would you
defer to the CCIE just because they're a CCIE or would you take initiative
to find the correct answer?  Would you follow up?  Maybe... maybe not.  It's
hard to guess what's going on in the heads of interviewers.  I like to keep
a positive attitude and not think the worst.  I'd HATE to think a CCIE
wouldn't know simple network concepts.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Sam Adams
> > Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:57 AM
> > To: 'John Barnes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> >
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you and
the
> > interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left
> > wondering
> > if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I
> > wasn't offered
> > a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > John Barnes
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> >
> >
> > I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
> > I'm not really sure were to go with this.
> >
> > He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
> > some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
> > the answers he wanted were wrong.  I'm going to post
> > the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
> > claimed to be correct.  If I'm wrong on these, I'd
> > like to know.  If I'm right, how would you deal with
> > this kind of thing?
> >
> > 1) What is the size of a token ring frame?
> > My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
> > His answer: 3 bytes..
> >
> > Isn't that the size of the Token frame?
> >
> > 2) What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn't this
> > about the same question as #1?)
> > My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn't
> > remember the exact number)
> > His answer: about 4470 bytes .
> >
> > Ahh... what?  He claimed I was thinking about
> > FDDI.g  Ah. Who's thinking about what?
> >
> > 3) What is the decision making process involved when a
> > packet enters a router?  What three criteria are used
> > to make this decision?
> >My answer:  It depends. Is this the first
> > packet with this destination to arrive at this router?
> >  What switching mode is the router configured for.
> >
> >His answer:  Forget about that stuff. how does
> > it determine which route to use.
> >
> >My answer:  longest match in the routing table
> >
> >His answer:  What if multiple routes exist in
> > the table.
> >
> >My answer:  It depends.
> >
> >Ok...I'm gonna cut to the chase. The answer he
> > wanted was longest match, Administrative distance,
> > then metric.  Ahh.. I'm pretty sure is wrong.   The
> > router looks at AD and Metrics long before the packet
> > enters the router.  The router uses AD and metric to
> > populate the routing tabl

Re: BGP question - Multihoming

[Daniel Ji]

ask your provider1 NOT to aggregate your  /23 block, instead advertise it
alone, AND put more AS # in your updates to provider2 so as to make the
route(AS_path) longer for them to reach you.

hope help.
Dan.

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> I have a tricky version for you guys:
>
> I am multihomed to two provider.  I got a /23 from Provider1.  I
> announce my /23 two Provider1 and Provider2.  Since my /23 comes from
> Provider1, he is supposed to aggregate in in is /16 CIDR.  But, I have
> to announce my /23 to my other provider.  Somebody told me that the
> longest prefix becomes something of a traffic magnet (or something like
> that).  So, all of my traffic would come from Provider2 and not
> Provider1.  How is it so, since BGP use aggregation?
>
> I don't understand!
>
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RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!

[Leigh Anne Chisholm]

John/Sam

I interviewed with an organization recently and completely blew one question.  I was 
asked what in an SMTP header will help troubleshoot email delivery problems.  Now I 
immediately start thinking about framing formats, and I don't know the frame format of 
an SMTP header.  I panic.  I say I don't know.

I get home, I realize they weren't asking what field in a frame, but rather what 
information in the header that you can see as plain as day that gets tacked on to an 
email message.  I feel very silly...

I emailed the hiring manager, and asked if this is what they were referring to, and 
provided him with a few examples of when I've used the SMTP header to troubleshoot 
delivery problems before.  

If I get the job, wonderful--they like my initiative following up.  If I don't... oh 
well.  I've been thinking about changing careers, because there are  very few 
companies in my city that I would like to work for...

John--what if the CCIE was trying to find out not just what technical knowledge you 
had, but how you handled difficult situations  where two people who worked together 
thought differently about what was right.  Would you defer to the CCIE just because 
they're a CCIE or would you take initiative to find the correct answer?  Would you 
follow up?  Maybe... maybe not.  It's hard to guess what's going on in the heads of 
interviewers.  I like to keep a positive attitude and not think the worst.  I'd HATE 
to think a CCIE wouldn't know simple network concepts.

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> Sam Adams
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:57 AM
> To: 'John Barnes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you and the
> interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left 
> wondering
> if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I 
> wasn't offered
> a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> John Barnes
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!
> 
> 
> I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
> I’m not really sure were to go with this.
> 
> He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
> some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
> the answers he wanted were wrong.  I’m going to post
> the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
> claimed to be correct.  If I’m wrong on these, I’d
> like to know.  If I’m right, how would you deal with
> this kind of thing?
> 
> 1)What is the size of a token ring frame?
> My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
> His answer: 3 bytes..
> 
> Isn’t that the size of the Token frame?
> 
> 2)What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn’t this
> about the same question as #1?)
> My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn’t
> remember the exact number)
> His answer: about 4470 bytes .
> 
> Ahh….. what?  He claimed I was thinking about
> FDDI…g  Ah… Who’s thinking about what?
> 
> 3)What is the decision making process involved when a
> packet enters a router?  What three criteria are used
> to make this decision?
>My answer:  It depends. Is this the first
> packet with this destination to arrive at this router?
>  What switching mode is the router configured for.
> 
>His answer:  Forget about that stuff… how does
> it determine which route to use.
> 
>My answer:  longest match in the routing table
> 
>His answer:  What if multiple routes exist in
> the table.
> 
>My answer:  It depends.
> 
>Ok…..I’m gonna cut to the chase… The answer he
> wanted was longest match, Administrative distance,
> then metric.  Ahh…. I’m pretty sure is wrong.   The
> router looks at AD and Metrics long before the packet
> enters the router.  The router uses AD and metric to
> populate the routing table, and then longest match
> from the routing table to make the decision once the
> packet actually enters the router.  Comparing AD and
> metric on every known route every time would place
> unnecessary burden on the CPU.  Compare it once, make
> the decision, and enter it in the RIT.  Even in the
> case of IGRP/EIGRP with variance, the next eligible
> route is determined before the packet enters the
> router.
> 
>   Maybe I should have picked up on this stuff when
> the recruiter asked me with BGP was a DV or LS based
> routing protocol.  My answer… ahh…neither, it’s path
> vector.
> 
> I’m basically sending this out to get thoughts, and
> hopefully Howard, Priscilla or someone can tell me
> wether I’m off technically or not.
> 
> 
> THANKS!
> 
> -john
> 
> 
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Re: CCIE Groupstudy.com List

[Daniel Ji]

Same problem for me. I have been waiting for more than a month.  They said
on their website they will do it once a week, but apparently they didn't.
Maybe because their service is free, they are not motivated to keep their
words. but hey! man if you can't do it, don't promise.
Anyway, I'm just gonna get my CCIE, that groupstudy CCIE list is NOT GOD.

Dan
Lab in Dec, San Jose.


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How to get rid of "Loading network-config ... [timed out]

[Roger Wright]

Dear Networkers,

Please tell me how to configure my 2611 router so that I don't constantly get
the following messages:


Loading network-confg ... [timed out]
Loading cisconet.cfg ... [timed out]
Loading routera-confg ... [timed out]
Loading routera.cfg ... [timed out]


Thanks in advance,

Roger


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RE: trace route question

[Roger Wang]

That's because there are more than one equal-cost next hops.  You see three
round-trip times because the packets with the same TTL were send out three
times.  If you look at your hop 3, you can see that it responded three
times.

HTH,

Rog

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>   Correct me if I'm wrong.  In the below trace route, the three entries in
> the first hop are the three attempts to route from hop 1 to hop2, correct?
>   It is not the case that the router cannot determine how to get to
> www.ibm.com.  I have a client that thinks the router is sending a single
> packet from s20.r8.mtcrcl to s1.r1.mrbakr to s0.r8.mtcrcl before
> sending it
> to the next hop.  Comments?  Explanation?
>
> 1 s20.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.77) 4 msec
> s1.r1.mtbakr.infoave.net (216.X.X.81) 4 msec
> s0.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.69) 4 msec
>   2 sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 32 msec
> border3-serial3-3-0.Denver.cw.net (204.70.30.53) 24 msec
> sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 28 msec
>   3 sl-bb10-sea-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.109) 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec
>
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BSCN Test (Routing)

[Stewart, Harley, M, Ii]

I've looked at all the objectives for this exam.  They say that other things
that are not listed could possibly be on the exam.
I was wondering if anyone has taken it.  If so, are there any other subjects
I ought to prepare for before testing.

Thanks,

Harley Stewart
Network Engineering
AT&T Solutions
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Obscure (?) questions

[Kristopher B. Climie]

Hello, all.  I am trying to find the answers to some questions, but have
looked all over Cisco's web site and in every book I have.  Since I am
having such a hard time finding the answers, I thought I would post them
here, and hopefully help someone else out in the process.

1)  Host A (on ring 001) and Host B (on ring 003) are separated by two Cisco
routers acting as bridges.  The virtual ring number of Router A is 19 and
the virtual ring number of Router B is 0x19.  What is the RIF for a packet
transmitted from Host A to Host B?  Or is this not even a valid config?

 _
|A|---
 /_
|B|

2)  Host A and Host B are separated by two Cisco routers configured to route
IP packets.  The two routers are separated by a serial line using HDLC
encap.  During a packet transmission from Host A to Host B, the serial line
takes a hit.  Who is responsible for retranslating the packet?

 _
|A|---
 /_
|B|

3)  In an ATM lane setup, where are IP ARP requests sent?

Thanks a bunch...
K

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Re: trace route question

[Francisco Muniz]

The three hops are three different routes to the same destination.

Cheers, 
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Thanks for the threads!

[Douglas C. Kipp]

I passed my CCNA 2.0 test today and just wanted to thank everyone for the wealth of 
information that is provided through this study list.  I thought the test was well 
written and provided a fair assessment of my knowledge.
Just apply what your trying to learn and you will pass this test. 

 

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RE: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!

[Sam Adams]

John,

Besides the technical questions, how was the chemistry between you and the
interviewer?  I know I went through a recent interview and I left wondering
if I wanted to work with the interviewer.  Needless to say, I wasn't offered
a second interview.  Guess he felt the same.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
John Barnes
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 3:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Help about a technical interview I had PLEASE!


I had technical with a CCIE interview yesterday, and
I’m not really sure were to go with this.

He asked me a lot of pretty high level questions and
some not so high level, the problem is, I feel some of
the answers he wanted were wrong.  I’m going to post
the questions, the answers I gave, and the answers he
claimed to be correct.  If I’m wrong on these, I’d
like to know.  If I’m right, how would you deal with
this kind of thing?

1)  What is the size of a token ring frame?
My answer: Token ring has a variable frame size.
His answer: 3 bytes..

Isn’t that the size of the Token frame?

2)  What the MTU of a token ring frame?  (Isn’t this
about the same question as #1?)
My answer: slightly larger that 16K (I couldn’t
remember the exact number)
His answer: about 4470 bytes .

Ahh….. what?  He claimed I was thinking about
FDDI…g  Ah… Who’s thinking about what?

3)  What is the decision making process involved when a
packet enters a router?  What three criteria are used
to make this decision?
   My answer:  It depends. Is this the first
packet with this destination to arrive at this router?
 What switching mode is the router configured for.

   His answer:  Forget about that stuff… how does
it determine which route to use.

   My answer:  longest match in the routing table

   His answer:  What if multiple routes exist in
the table.

   My answer:  It depends.

   Ok…..I’m gonna cut to the chase… The answer he
wanted was longest match, Administrative distance,
then metric.  Ahh…. I’m pretty sure is wrong.   The
router looks at AD and Metrics long before the packet
enters the router.  The router uses AD and metric to
populate the routing table, and then longest match
from the routing table to make the decision once the
packet actually enters the router.  Comparing AD and
metric on every known route every time would place
unnecessary burden on the CPU.  Compare it once, make
the decision, and enter it in the RIT.  Even in the
case of IGRP/EIGRP with variance, the next eligible
route is determined before the packet enters the
router.

  Maybe I should have picked up on this stuff when
the recruiter asked me with BGP was a DV or LS based
routing protocol.  My answer… ahh…neither, it’s path
vector.

I’m basically sending this out to get thoughts, and
hopefully Howard, Priscilla or someone can tell me
wether I’m off technically or not.


THANKS!

-john


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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RHM]

Man don't you know it

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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:43 PM
To: RHM; damien; Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.

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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Looking for love in all the wrong places

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
damien
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ dating
service.  :~)

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From: Kenny Sallee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY

OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date and
100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.

Kenny

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From: Kenny Sallee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: CCIE lab date swap

I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap dates
with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.

Thanks

Kenny
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kent]

I think this mail account should be suspended at least
for a while, this is insulting.

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> Looking for love in all the wrong places
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> damien
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>   To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> MONEY
> 
> 
>   the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not
> a prostitution/ dating
> service.  :~)
> - Original Message -
> From: Kenny Sallee
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
> Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR
> MONEY
> 
> 
> OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50
> dollars for a November date
> and 100 dollars for October!  After the swap is
> complete of course.
> 
> Kenny
>   - Original Message -
>   From: Kenny Sallee
>   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
>   Subject: CCIE lab date swap
> 
> 
>   I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If
> anyone would like to swap
> dates with me preferrably in October/November please
> email or call me.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
>   Kenny
>   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>   503-205-1404
> 
> 
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Montgomery, Robert WARCOM Contractor]

Speaks directly to our declining morals.  We are IT whores now.

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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:07 AM
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Subject: RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


Looking for love in all the wrong places

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
damien
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PM
To: Kenny Sallee; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY


the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not a prostitution/ dating
service.  :~)

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From: Kenny Sallee   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 PM
Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY

OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date and
100 dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
 
Kenny

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From: Kenny Sallee   
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 AM
Subject: CCIE lab date swap

I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap dates
with me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
 
Thanks
 
Kenny 
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Re: Passed CCDA Today

[Howla]

Congrats Mike,
 
I'm sitting the exam in a month or so and the 
material I'm reading is all the DCN course material, DCN Exam cert guide 
and theTop down network design book. Can you tell me if you used the same 
material and if so how well did it prep you for the exam.
 
TIA,
 
Howla :)

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  Passed CCDA today with an 883. Harder than any 
  other test I have ever taken. ( That includes several medical state 
  boards). thanks to everyone on the groupstudy. 
   
   
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Solutions

RE: trace route question

[Nguyen_Trang]

I read somewhere a long while ago about the internal working of traceroute.
I may be wrong, but I recall that it goes something like this:
a. Source to 1st hop.
b. Back to source to print first hop (success) and time.
c. Source to 2nd hop via 1st hop.
d. Back to source ignore time to first hop, print second hop (success) and
time.
and so on.

> -Original Message-
> From: Edward Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:32 AM
> To: Cisco List
> Subject: trace route question
> 
> 
>   Correct me if I'm wrong.  In the below trace route, the 
> three entries in
> the first hop are the three attempts to route from hop 1 to 
> hop2, correct?
>   It is not the case that the router cannot determine how to get to
> www.ibm.com.  I have a client that thinks the router is 
> sending a single
> packet from s20.r8.mtcrcl to s1.r1.mrbakr to s0.r8.mtcrcl 
> before sending it
> to the next hop.  Comments?  Explanation?
> 
> 1 s20.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.77) 4 msec
> s1.r1.mtbakr.infoave.net (216.X.X.81) 4 msec
> s0.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.69) 4 msec
>   2 sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 32 msec
> border3-serial3-3-0.Denver.cw.net (204.70.30.53) 24 msec
> sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 28 msec
>   3 sl-bb10-sea-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.109) 28 msec 28 
> msec 28 msec
> 
> Edward Watson, CCNA
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RE: Problem reading CCO Doc CD

[Nguyen_Trang]

It seems that the graphic display in the browser has been turned off.

Trang

> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 9:14 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Problem reading CCO Doc CD
> 
> 
> I have a problem reading the CCO Doc CD.  The problem is that the
> Figures in the HTML page is not displayed instead an ICON is 
> displayed.
> For example, if I want to read the "Internetwork Design Guide" at
> 
> http://127.0.0.1:8080/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2002.htm
> 
> All the figures are not displayed while the text is displayed just
> fine.  Anybody knows how to fix this problem?
> 
> I know that if I read the PDF file at the same page as below
> 
> http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/idg4/nd2002.pdf
> 
> The figures are displayed as expected.  But it hard to move back and
> forth while reading PDF file.  I really prefer to read the HTML page.
> 
> Thank you for your help in advance.
> 
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RE: BGP **** CCO QUESTION ** PA

[Stanfield Hilman B(Brad) CONT NSSG]

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-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: BGP  CCO QUESTION ** PA


What are the links to those CCO tests? BTW, I have CCO access.

Thanks a lot.


""Peter Abraham"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> All these are questions that I got from the CCO BCSN tests.
>
> 1. Which command allows Router A to advertise subnet 10.1.0.0/24 in BGP?
>
>   A. network 10.1.0.0
>   B. network 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0
>   C. network 10.1.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0
>   D. network 10.1.0.0/16
>   E. network 10.1.0.0 prefix 16
>
> I have my answer as A.  B,D, and E all have the wrong syntax. Is C right?
I
> know that the mask length for C is 16.
>
> 2. What is the function of the BGP atomic aggregate attribute?
>
>   A. To indicate that the originating router has aggregated the routes
>   B. To specify the BGP router ID and AS number of the router that
performed
> the route aggregation
>   C. To specify the AS number of the router that performed the route
> aggregation
>   D. To specify the AS number of the router that performed the route
> aggregation and the AS numbers of the non-aggregated routes
>
> Answer: A.
>
> I have searched the CISCO web site and cannot find information on BGP
atomic
> aggregate attribute.
>
> Finally, how do prefix lists have support for incremental updates? Does
> anyone have a simple explanation for this?
>
> I appreciate your assistance.
>
> Peter.
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RE: CCIE Groupstudy.com List

[Louie Belt]

I'm in the same boat.  I've been waiting a month to be added to the list
with no response.  Has anyone else had success?

LAB

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Subject: CCIE Groupstudy.com List


   Does anyone know what is going on with the CCIE
groupstudy.com list?  I have requested that I be added
to it 3 time now without any response.  My practical
is in less than 3 months and I would like to get on.
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RE: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[RHM]

Looking for love in all the wrong places

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  Friday, September 15, 2000 12:13 PMTo: Kenny Sallee; 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: 
  Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR 
  MONEY
  the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not 
  a prostitution/ dating service.  :~)
  
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 
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Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR 
MONEY

OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 
dollars for a November date and 100 dollars for October!  After the 
swap is complete of course.
 
Kenny

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  Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 
  9:39 AM
  Subject: CCIE lab date swap
  
  I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  
  If anyone would like to swap dates with me preferrably in October/November 
  please email or call me.
   
  Thanks
   
  Kenny 
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Passed CID

[Vijay Ramcharan]

Hi all, just wanted to share my elation with the rest of you.  I took CID
for the second time yesterday and barely passed with a 67% score.  The first
time I scored 60%.  As mentioned many times on this list, the CID is one of
the more difficult exams because it requires thinking a bit beyond what you
actually learn from the study guide.  Quite a few of the questions were
really puzzling and it was hard to figure out what answer to choose.  I have
nothing really to add other than the fact that the exam objectives are a
pretty accurate guide of what topics should be known.  100 questions, 65%
passing score.  I used Cisco Internetwork Design from Cisco Press and CID
Study Guide from Sybex.  Anyone planning to take this test, be forewarned.
Don't be fooled by the apparent simplicity of the material in the study
guide.  Good luck.  Now I'm on to advancing my knowledge by tackling CCIE
material and the long hard road to THE lab...


Vijay Ramcharan

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CCIE Groupstudy.com List

[Dennis Hartmann]

   Does anyone know what is going on with the CCIE
groupstudy.com list?  I have requested that I be added
to it 3 time now without any response.  My practical
is in less than 3 months and I would like to get on. 
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Re: ccie student in Tokyo area??

[S.K. Chan]

HI...do you know is there any CCIE  preparation lab class in TYO?
SK

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> I am looking for someone to work with me on the ccie
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> I already passed the ccie written exam.
>
> Can someone help me?
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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[damien]

the last time I was  here it was a Study Group not 
a prostitution/ dating service.  :~)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Kenny 
  Sallee 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 4:09 
  PM
  Subject: Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR 
  MONEY
  
  OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 
  dollars for a November date and 100 dollars for October!  After the 
  swap is complete of course.
   
  Kenny
  
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From: 
Kenny 
Sallee 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 9:39 
AM
Subject: CCIE lab date swap

I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  
If anyone would like to swap dates with me preferrably in October/November 
please email or call me.
 
Thanks
 
Kenny 
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Re: BGP **** CCO QUESTION ** PA

[Victor Jia]

What are the links to those CCO tests? BTW, I have CCO access.

Thanks a lot.


""Peter Abraham"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> All these are questions that I got from the CCO BCSN tests.
>
> 1. Which command allows Router A to advertise subnet 10.1.0.0/24 in BGP?
>
>   A. network 10.1.0.0
>   B. network 10.1.0.0 255.255.0.0
>   C. network 10.1.0.0 mask 255.255.0.0
>   D. network 10.1.0.0/16
>   E. network 10.1.0.0 prefix 16
>
> I have my answer as A.  B,D, and E all have the wrong syntax. Is C right?
I
> know that the mask length for C is 16.
>
> 2. What is the function of the BGP atomic aggregate attribute?
>
>   A. To indicate that the originating router has aggregated the routes
>   B. To specify the BGP router ID and AS number of the router that
performed
> the route aggregation
>   C. To specify the AS number of the router that performed the route
> aggregation
>   D. To specify the AS number of the router that performed the route
> aggregation and the AS numbers of the non-aggregated routes
>
> Answer: A.
>
> I have searched the CISCO web site and cannot find information on BGP
atomic
> aggregate attribute.
>
> Finally, how do prefix lists have support for incremental updates? Does
> anyone have a simple explanation for this?
>
> I appreciate your assistance.
>
> Peter.
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RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication

[Dinesh B]

Hi..

Well, I must say I am confused now...The only reason what I could think of
that setup depends on the configuration in the router. If in the router,
you want to retain the VLAN information then probably we endup with the 3
line setup. Group, clarify this doubt.

Regds


--- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Maybe I am slow this Friday morning, but I still do not see the light.
> 
> If we forget about them being three VLAN's on one switch, let's instead
> say
> they are three LAN's - one on each switch. You would now connect those
> three
> switches to the router with a cable per switch - thus using three
> cables. On
> the other side of the router we only had one VLAN, so we just forget
> about
> the VLAN and make it a LAN which then only need one switch, and thus
> only
> one cable to the router.
> 
> What we have now is four switches - each in a separate LAN, that are
> interconnected via the router.
> 
> If we say that the three LAN's are in building A and the fourth LAN are
> in
> building B, and the router we could place in the parking garage. We
> would
> now need three cables from the router to building A and one cable from
> the
> router to building B. 
> 
> So far, so good.
> 
> It would make sense to connect the first three switches to each other
> and
> separate the LAN's by making VLAN's instead (we are now getting back to
> the
> original plot). The switch in building B only has one LAN, so we would
> only
> need to make one VLAN over there.
> 
> Now, why should I suddenly have to run three cables instead of only one
> between the router and the switch in building B???
> 
> Thanks for your comments (and time) on this,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Dinesh B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:12 AM
> To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Scott Nelson'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> In the first scenario, the book explains the setup without ISL being
> configured, and hence each one of the 3 VLANs need a separate link to
> communicate to VLAN60. Only when ISL is configured , your argument holds
> good.
> 
> Hope this clears your doubt.
> 
> Regds
> 
> 
> --- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > A little bit Scott, but the first scenario shows it without trunking:
> > 
> > (this should be viewed with a fixed font)
> > 
> >  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
> >  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
> >  [vlan11]--[  ]--[  ]
> >  [vlan12]--[  ]--[  ]
> > 
> > This I believe is wrong, since it should only need one physical
> > connection
> > between the router and the second switch (to the right) - like this:
> > 
> >  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
> >  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
> >  [vlan11]--[  ]  [  ]
> >  [vlan12]--[  ]  [  ]
> > 
> > The purpose of the router is to route from one network to another, and
> > if
> > you would send data from a workstation on vlan11 to a workstation on
> > vlan20,
> > it should go via the cable connected to the port on the first switch
> > that is
> > assigned to vlan11. In the router it would be routed to vlan20 which
> > should
> > only have one connection from that switch.
> > 
> > If you (or anyone else) disagree, please let me know why.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > 
> > Ole
> > 
> > ~~
> >  Ole Drews Jensen
> >  Systems Network Manager
> >  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
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> > ~~
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 6:08 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: Re: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> > 
> > 
> > > I have just started reading about devices on different VLAN's
> > communicating
> > > with eachother via a Router.
> > >
> > > The thing I find odd (page 190/191 in Karen Webb's book) is the
> > following:
> > >
> > > Three (3) VLAN's are configured on the first switch, and one (1)
> VLAN
> > is
> > > configured on the second switch.
> > 
> > On the first switch, there are 3 VLANs that are configured to go to 3
> > interfaces on the first router and on the 2nd switch, it could be
> using
> > ISL
> > or 802.1q trunking to a second router. You don't need 3 separate
> > interfaces
> > when you are doing trunking as long as the switch and the router can
> do
> > ISL
> > or 802.1q or whatever proprietary protocol you want to use for
> trunking,
> > both have to speak the same trunking language.
> > 
> > Does that clear it up a little?
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > The first switch has three physical connections to 

BGP question - Multihoming

[Martin-Guy Richard]

I have a tricky version for you guys:

I am multihomed to two provider.  I got a /23 from Provider1.  I
announce my /23 two Provider1 and Provider2.  Since my /23 comes from
Provider1, he is supposed to aggregate in in is /16 CIDR.  But, I have
to announce my /23 to my other provider.  Somebody told me that the
longest prefix becomes something of a traffic magnet (or something like
that).  So, all of my traffic would come from Provider2 and not
Provider1.  How is it so, since BGP use aggregation?

I don't understand!

MGR

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Re: MCNS 2.0 passed

[Ben Lovegrove]

Thanks.

I used Designing Network Security by Merike Kaeo:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700434/bensbookmar/ - UK
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578700434/bensbookmarkandn/ -
USA

and the course notes from the MCNS 2.0 course (5 days)

and www.cisco.com/go/security

It's all you'll need!

Regards
Ben
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> What books did you use to study for this exam please?
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> >From: Ben Lovegrove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: Ben Lovegrove <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> >Subject: MCNS 2.0 passed
> >Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 13:45:50 +0100 (BST)
> >
> >Passed the MCNS 2.0 exam today.
> >
> >It's been said before on this list, but I'll repeat it for those who
> >missed it: know your IPsec, CBAC, ACL, PIX, and general security
> policy
> >issues.
> >
> >CCIE written next. . . .
> >
> >
> >
> >=
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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robert LaGrasse]

$100 to date a CCIE? Tempting offer but sorry, I don't swing that way :)

On Fri, 15 Sep 2000, Kenny Sallee wrote:
> 
> OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 dollars for a November date and 100 
>dollars for October!  After the swap is complete of course.
> 
> Kenny
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> 
> 
>   I'm scheduled for Jan 13th in San Jose.  If anyone would like to swap dates with 
>me preferrably in October/November please email or call me.
> 
>   Thanks
> 
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Re: MRTG and T1

[Atif Awan]

Am i missing something or the gif does say that the vertical scale is in
bytes not bits. So if you are reaching 180K bytes per second then it is
equivalent to 1440 K bits per sec which is pretty good if you ask me.

Regards
Atif Awan

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Subject: MRTG and T1


>What's up everybody I have just installed MRTG and am monitoring our
T1.
>My question is this:
>
>The max Bytes Per Second only goes up to 180k. How does this correlate to
>actual bandwidth being used up on my pipe? I have a 2600 with a built in
>CSU/DSU (bandwidth set to 1536kbps) over frame relay.
>
>(see .gif for example)
>
>I've been looking on CCO for the max kbps that it can actually route, but
no
>luck. I'm assuming that it can handle the 1536?
>
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Re: CCIE lab date swap FOR MONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kenny Sallee]

OK since there were no responses I'll pay 50 
dollars for a November date and 100 dollars for October!  After the 
swap is complete of course.
 
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Passed CCDA Today

[Mike Canfield]

Passed CCDA today with an 883. Harder than any 
other test I have ever taken. ( That includes several medical state 
boards). thanks to everyone on the groupstudy. 
 
 
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Solutions

netmeeting through firewall..?

[Stull, Cory]

Does anyone have any suggestions on how to allow netmeeting through a 2600
IOS firewall securely?
The remote users will not have same address all of the time..   I'm geussing
I will end up setting up AAA authentication to a radius type server to do it
securely because I don't want to just open up the netmeeting ports to
anyone.

Any other suggestions on cheap radius server software, or new ideas are
appreciated..   I'm not asking for assistance just ideas.  So please no
flames.

Thanks


Cory 

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Re: MCNS 2.0 passed

[Frank Wells]

Well done Ben,
What books did you use to study for this exam please?

Cheers


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>Passed the MCNS 2.0 exam today.
>
>It's been said before on this list, but I'll repeat it for those who
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>issues.
>
>CCIE written next. . . .
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RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication

[Ole Drews Jensen]

Maybe I am slow this Friday morning, but I still do not see the light.

If we forget about them being three VLAN's on one switch, let's instead say
they are three LAN's - one on each switch. You would now connect those three
switches to the router with a cable per switch - thus using three cables. On
the other side of the router we only had one VLAN, so we just forget about
the VLAN and make it a LAN which then only need one switch, and thus only
one cable to the router.

What we have now is four switches - each in a separate LAN, that are
interconnected via the router.

If we say that the three LAN's are in building A and the fourth LAN are in
building B, and the router we could place in the parking garage. We would
now need three cables from the router to building A and one cable from the
router to building B. 

So far, so good.

It would make sense to connect the first three switches to each other and
separate the LAN's by making VLAN's instead (we are now getting back to the
original plot). The switch in building B only has one LAN, so we would only
need to make one VLAN over there.

Now, why should I suddenly have to run three cables instead of only one
between the router and the switch in building B???

Thanks for your comments (and time) on this,

Ole

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-Original Message-
From: Dinesh B [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 10:12 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; 'Scott Nelson'; '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication


Hi

In the first scenario, the book explains the setup without ISL being
configured, and hence each one of the 3 VLANs need a separate link to
communicate to VLAN60. Only when ISL is configured , your argument holds
good.

Hope this clears your doubt.

Regds


--- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A little bit Scott, but the first scenario shows it without trunking:
> 
> (this should be viewed with a fixed font)
> 
>  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
>  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
>  [vlan11]--[  ]--[  ]
>  [vlan12]--[  ]--[  ]
> 
> This I believe is wrong, since it should only need one physical
> connection
> between the router and the second switch (to the right) - like this:
> 
>  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
>  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
>  [vlan11]--[  ]  [  ]
>  [vlan12]--[  ]  [  ]
> 
> The purpose of the router is to route from one network to another, and
> if
> you would send data from a workstation on vlan11 to a workstation on
> vlan20,
> it should go via the cable connected to the port on the first switch
> that is
> assigned to vlan11. In the router it would be routed to vlan20 which
> should
> only have one connection from that switch.
> 
> If you (or anyone else) disagree, please let me know why.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~
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>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 6:08 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> 
> 
> > I have just started reading about devices on different VLAN's
> communicating
> > with eachother via a Router.
> >
> > The thing I find odd (page 190/191 in Karen Webb's book) is the
> following:
> >
> > Three (3) VLAN's are configured on the first switch, and one (1) VLAN
> is
> > configured on the second switch.
> 
> On the first switch, there are 3 VLANs that are configured to go to 3
> interfaces on the first router and on the 2nd switch, it could be using
> ISL
> or 802.1q trunking to a second router. You don't need 3 separate
> interfaces
> when you are doing trunking as long as the switch and the router can do
> ISL
> or 802.1q or whatever proprietary protocol you want to use for trunking,
> both have to speak the same trunking language.
> 
> Does that clear it up a little?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> > The first switch has three physical connections to the router, which
> makes
> > sense, but the second switch has three physical connections to the
> router
> > too, which doesn't make sense (to me at least).
> >
> > The way I see it, is that a VLAN would be (in theory) similar to a
> physical
> > LAN, so if I change the three (3) VLAN's on one switch to three
> switches
> > with one VLAN each, I would have one physical connection from each
> switch
> to
> > the router, and one physical connection from the second, or in this
> case
> the
> > fourth switch to the router.
> >
> > I know that I will probably know the answer to this if I just finish
> the
> > chapter, but I hate

trace route question

[Edward Watson]

  Correct me if I'm wrong.  In the below trace route, the three entries in
the first hop are the three attempts to route from hop 1 to hop2, correct?
  It is not the case that the router cannot determine how to get to
www.ibm.com.  I have a client that thinks the router is sending a single
packet from s20.r8.mtcrcl to s1.r1.mrbakr to s0.r8.mtcrcl before sending it
to the next hop.  Comments?  Explanation?

1 s20.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.77) 4 msec
s1.r1.mtbakr.infoave.net (216.X.X.81) 4 msec
s0.r8.mtcrcl.infoave.net (216.X.X.69) 4 msec
  2 sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 32 msec
border3-serial3-3-0.Denver.cw.net (204.70.30.53) 24 msec
sl-gw10-sea-5-1-0-TS5.sprintlink.net (144.X.X.141) 28 msec
  3 sl-bb10-sea-3-0.sprintlink.net (144.232.6.109) 28 msec 28 msec 28 msec

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RE: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication

[Dinesh B]

Hi

In the first scenario, the book explains the setup without ISL being
configured, and hence each one of the 3 VLANs need a separate link to
communicate to VLAN60. Only when ISL is configured , your argument holds
good.

Hope this clears your doubt.

Regds


--- Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> A little bit Scott, but the first scenario shows it without trunking:
> 
> (this should be viewed with a fixed font)
> 
>  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
>  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
>  [vlan11]--[  ]--[  ]
>  [vlan12]--[  ]--[  ]
> 
> This I believe is wrong, since it should only need one physical
> connection
> between the router and the second switch (to the right) - like this:
> 
>  [SWITCH]  [ROUTER]  [SWITCH]
>  [vlan10]--[  ]--[vlan20]
>  [vlan11]--[  ]  [  ]
>  [vlan12]--[  ]  [  ]
> 
> The purpose of the router is to route from one network to another, and
> if
> you would send data from a workstation on vlan11 to a workstation on
> vlan20,
> it should go via the cable connected to the port on the first switch
> that is
> assigned to vlan11. In the router it would be routed to vlan20 which
> should
> only have one connection from that switch.
> 
> If you (or anyone else) disagree, please let me know why.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Ole
> 
> ~~
>  Ole Drews Jensen
>  Systems Network Manager
>  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
>  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> ~~
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Nelson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 6:08 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Re: BCMSN: Inter VLAN communication
> 
> 
> > I have just started reading about devices on different VLAN's
> communicating
> > with eachother via a Router.
> >
> > The thing I find odd (page 190/191 in Karen Webb's book) is the
> following:
> >
> > Three (3) VLAN's are configured on the first switch, and one (1) VLAN
> is
> > configured on the second switch.
> 
> On the first switch, there are 3 VLANs that are configured to go to 3
> interfaces on the first router and on the 2nd switch, it could be using
> ISL
> or 802.1q trunking to a second router. You don't need 3 separate
> interfaces
> when you are doing trunking as long as the switch and the router can do
> ISL
> or 802.1q or whatever proprietary protocol you want to use for trunking,
> both have to speak the same trunking language.
> 
> Does that clear it up a little?
> 
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> > The first switch has three physical connections to the router, which
> makes
> > sense, but the second switch has three physical connections to the
> router
> > too, which doesn't make sense (to me at least).
> >
> > The way I see it, is that a VLAN would be (in theory) similar to a
> physical
> > LAN, so if I change the three (3) VLAN's on one switch to three
> switches
> > with one VLAN each, I would have one physical connection from each
> switch
> to
> > the router, and one physical connection from the second, or in this
> case
> the
> > fourth switch to the router.
> >
> > I know that I will probably know the answer to this if I just finish
> the
> > chapter, but I hate not being sure about the information that the rest
> of
> > the information is related to.
> >
> > Can someone clarify that for me?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Ole
> >
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Re: max no of connections for vty

[william kelly]

Seems to work on a 2503 when running the enterprise
version of the IOS, as Lammle describes

Cisco-B1#show version
Cisco Internetwork Operating System Software
IOS (tm) 2500 Software (C2500-J-L), Version 11.2(18),
RELEASE SOFTWARE (fc1)
Copyright (c) 1986-1999 by cisco Systems, Inc.   

Cisco-B1(config)#line vty 0 ?
  <1-197>  Last Line number


Regards
W Kelly


--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> According to my CCNA Study guide by Todd Lammle, pg
> 194, "Routers that are 
> not running the Enterprise edition of the Cisco IOS
> default to five VTY 
> lines, 0 through 4.  However, if you have the
> Enterprise edition, you will 
> have significantly more. The router we are using for
> this section has 198 
> (0-197). The best way to find out how many lines you
> have is to use the 
> question mark.
> 
> Router(config-line)#line vty 0 ?
> <1-197>Last Line Number
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> 
> > I tried on my 2600 at home.  Wouldnt allow it. 
> Have you actually done it?
> >  
> >  - Original Message -
> >  From: Thomas Peroutka
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  To: jason yee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >  Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 12:59 AM
> >  Subject: Re: max no of connections for vty
> >  
> >  
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 197
> >  
> >  197 is the maximum number of telnet sessions; you
> can use any number
> >  in between, so for your constellation (24
> students, one teacher) for 
> example
> >  router(config)#line vty 0 25
> >  
> >  Friday, September 15, 2000, 7:24:13 AM, you
> wrote:
> >  
> >  jy> hi ,
> >  jy> I am a instructor currently delivering CCNA
> course.The
> >  jy> setup of the classroom consists of 2 routers
> but I
> >  jy> have got 24 students telnetting to the 2
> routers . I
> >  jy> have problems for them telnetting to the
> routers
> >  jy> because the max no of connections for the
> telnet
> >  jy> sessions are 5 , my question is how can I
> increase the
> >  jy> no. of connections so as to accomodate all
> the
> >  jy> students without buying more routers.
> >  
> >  
> >  jy> thanks
> >  
> >  jy> suaveguru
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Re: Free Config-Maker Download

[Nigel Taylor]

God Luck on that Interview Phil.  But then you're skilled, so luck has
no bearing here..

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> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/nemnsw/cm/index.shtml
>
> Found this, before scurrying out for a last minute interview :-)
>
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Re: AS Number

[Kent]

Kashif,

Quick question, what the access-list in the
looking-glass mean? the access-list applied by the
service provider of that NAP?

Thanks

Kent
--- M Kashif Iqbal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think its a good site for this type of services.
> 
> http://nitrous.digex.net/mae/sn-lg.html
> 
> Kashif
> 
> "Benny Leong (HTHK - Senior Engineer II - iServices
> Development, NNSD)" wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I would like to know the AS # of an ISP.  Can
> anyone tell me how to check it
> > over the web ?
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Re: IPSec example on Cisco web site doesn't seem to work

[Nigel Taylor]

I believe the command is "set t
- Original Message -
From: Oliver Steudler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2000 2:16 PM
Subject: IPSec example on Cisco web site doesn't seem to work
I was looking through this and didn't notice the command you were looking
for as shown from the link you gave.. Maybe this will work.. instead!  Here
is a Manual keying example that list the commands within a table so you know
exactly why you're doing what.

"The Joy of CCO"

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/12cgcr/secur
_r/srprt4/index.htm

Nigel..

> Hi,
>
> I've tried the IPSec Manual Keying example on Cisco's web site
> but can't see how this can work.
>
> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/manual.html
>
> The problem lies with the fact that the "set security-association"
> option does not exist in the crypto map.
>
> router2(config)#crypto map testcase 8 ipsec-manual
> router2(config-crypto-map)#set peer 11.11.11.12
> router2(config-crypto-map)#set security-association ?
> % Unrecognized command
> router2(config-crypto-map)#set ?
>   peer   Allowed Encryption/Decryption peer.
>   session-keySecurity session key parameters
>   transform-set  Specify list of transform sets in priority order
> router2(config-crypto-map)#
>
> I've tried this using 3640's and c3640-is56i-mz.120-12.bin
>
> Your assistance would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards
> Oliver
>
>
> Oliver Steudler
> Senior Systems Engineer
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Re: I'm trying to buy lab time, but it seems like they don't allow enable?

[BE]

Sean,

Hi!  You're just not allowed enable access into the reverse telnet server.
You DO have enabled access on all of the other connected routers.

ccbootcamp rent's the gear out in 24 hr intervals.

-Brad
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> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry to disturb list members with this type of question but I'm
trying
> to buy lab time, but it seems like they don't allow enable mode
> configuration?  (ccbootcamp) Is it true or is it really stupid question?
If
> it is true, how much can you benefit from non enable mode?  I thought they
> allow only one person per rack so that they can alter configurations to
> test, will I be sharing this equipments with other people at the same
time?
>
> And what are the good places to purchase lab time?  Looks like they rent
> their equipment for a day, but how do they usually define a day? 24hrs or
> 8hours.
>
> And again I'm sorry to ask this on the list, I should really ask this to
> vendors but I wanted to hear from someone I can really trust and this is
> quickest method to get an answer too so.. :-) forgive me.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
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Re: Pix Failover Question

[BE]

Rodgers,

Hi!  Thanks for your response.

The answer is YES to all of your questions.  The really strange thing is,
when I leave the single PIX 510 running for an extended period of time, it
works great, no problems.  When I add the second PIX, it just seems to grab
the DMZ connection (but leaves the other two connections alone).  My
original guess was that there is some strange bug in 4.4 somewhere that I
havent seen.

Both boxes have the same config (and are sync'd up).

-B
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> It sounds like they're both identical.  That's good.
> Do you have ALL the interfaces in an UP state? and each pair of interfaces
> are on the same hub?
>
> A down interface will be considered a failure
>
> Both configs are identical? You power cycled both boxes at the same time?
>
> Rodgers Moore
>
> ""BE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8pt9cl$t1g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8pt9cl$t1g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Hey gang!  Any Pix gurus out there?
> >
> > I've been playing with a couple of Pixs (510s) trying to get the
failover
> to
> > work.  I thought it would be a piece of cake, but it just isn't showing
me
> > any love.  Ive got (2) Pix 510s that each have 3 NICs in them (internal,
> > untrusted, DMZ) each running 4.4.  Everything seems all fine and dandy
> until
> > about 10 minutes later when the standby PIX starts stealing the DMZ
> > connections.
> >
> > Any thoughts?
> >
> > -Brad
> > bellis@opts ys.net
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Re: I'm trying to buy lab time, but it seems like they don't allow enable?

[BE]

Sean,

Hi!  You're just not allowed enable access into the reverse telnet server.
You DO have enabled access on all of the other connected routers.

ccbootcamp rent's the gear out in 24 hr intervals.

-Brad
bellis@opt sys.net
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> Hello,
>
> I'm sorry to disturb list members with this type of question but I'm
trying
> to buy lab time, but it seems like they don't allow enable mode
> configuration?  (ccbootcamp) Is it true or is it really stupid question?
If
> it is true, how much can you benefit from non enable mode?  I thought they
> allow only one person per rack so that they can alter configurations to
> test, will I be sharing this equipments with other people at the same
time?
>
> And what are the good places to purchase lab time?  Looks like they rent
> their equipment for a day, but how do they usually define a day? 24hrs or
> 8hours.
>
> And again I'm sorry to ask this on the list, I should really ask this to
> vendors but I wanted to hear from someone I can really trust and this is
> quickest method to get an answer too so.. :-) forgive me.
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
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Re: Pix Failover Question

[Rodgers Moore]

It sounds like they're both identical.  That's good.
Do you have ALL the interfaces in an UP state? and each pair of interfaces
are on the same hub?

A down interface will be considered a failure

Both configs are identical? You power cycled both boxes at the same time?

Rodgers Moore

""BE"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 8pt9cl$t1g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8pt9cl$t1g$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> Hey gang!  Any Pix gurus out there?
>
> I've been playing with a couple of Pixs (510s) trying to get the failover
to
> work.  I thought it would be a piece of cake, but it just isn't showing me
> any love.  Ive got (2) Pix 510s that each have 3 NICs in them (internal,
> untrusted, DMZ) each running 4.4.  Everything seems all fine and dandy
until
> about 10 minutes later when the standby PIX starts stealing the DMZ
> connections.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> -Brad
> bellis@opts ys.net
>
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Re: foundation 2.0

[Henrique Issamu Terada]

Yes, I got the beta version

I still don't know my score, but passed , as I can see at galton.com

Henrique Issamu Terada
CPM Comunicações - Brazil
CCNA Certified
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To: Armando Santana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2000 11:20 PM
Subject: Re: foundation 2.0


Somebody mentioned that 640-509 had gone live but Cisco's site still has it
in beta.

I haven't phoned to check it out though.  I am also interested as that exam
would kill all my upgrade birds with one stone to get to CCNP/CCDP 2.0

Kevin Wigle

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> Hi All ,
>
>
> Is there anyone here who passed at foundation 2.0  
> Any comments 
>
> best regards
>
> [[ ]]
>
>
> Armando
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Training

[CiscoDiety]

Hey everyone,

I have added some new docs to my Cisco training site.
Areas included are broken down by certification;

CCNA - CCNA Study Guides and Cheat Sheets
CCDA - CCDA Study Guides and Cheat Sheets
CCNP - CCNP Study Guides and Cheat Sheets
CCDP - CCDP Study Guides and Cheat Sheets
CCIE - CCIE Study Guides and Cheat Sheets


Feel free to use it as much as you'd like.

Also,
I would like to put up a new area for HP Openview Certifications, if you
have any documentation/cheat sheets/study guides for ManageX, Omniback II,
or Network Node Manager, please send them to me to post.


http://www.gdd.net
Then select "Free Area", then "Cisco"

Have fun!


Clayton Dukes
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Internetwork Management Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP
SunCSA, Etc.



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CCIE STUDY GEAR

[FRS]

Hi all,

I need to buy some CCIE Study Gear. Can anyone recommend a place I can get
used Routers and Switches from at decent prices so that I can build my
personal lab?
I have tried some people that have advertised on the list but they either
could not supply or were out of stock.

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RE: Unspecified Card

[Steve Smith]

I know the WIC-2T is but have not seen a 4T that will work in that router.
4T is usually 3600 and up.

Regards,
Steve

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Cheers William
I have a feeling that the card isnt even compatible with the router !

more square peg..round hole shenanigans...:((

alex



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>To: alex campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: Unspecified Card
>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 07:24:35 -0400
>
>Maybe the IOS you have doesnt support the card. Check the documentation on
>the card.
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Hello all,
> >
> > I have a cisco 2620 router...running IOS 12.0, I have also just got a 4T
> > serial card,
> > every time I power up the router...I get the message 'Unspecified Card 
>in
> > Port 1'.
> > I have tried differend versions of IOS 12 all to no avail. I get the 
>Green
> >
> > EN light on the card to illuminate once the router powers up, but then 
>it
> > turns itself off again.
> >
> > Any help much appreciated
> > Alex
> >
> >
> >
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Pix Failover Question

[BE]

Hey gang!  Any Pix gurus out there?

I've been playing with a couple of Pixs (510s) trying to get the failover to
work.  I thought it would be a piece of cake, but it just isn't showing me
any love.  Ive got (2) Pix 510s that each have 3 NICs in them (internal,
untrusted, DMZ) each running 4.4.  Everything seems all fine and dandy until
about 10 minutes later when the standby PIX starts stealing the DMZ
connections.

Any thoughts?

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Re: Bootldr/Bootflash?

[Flem]

You mean the rsp-boot on bootflash ? No , not
automatically .

bootldr is set via configuration . Nothing is done
automatically . 

flem


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> 
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Free Config-Maker Download

[Circusnuts]

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/nemnsw/cm/index.shtml

Found this, before scurrying out for a last minute interview :-)

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RE: Access-lists

[Smith, Warren]

But it still is only going to apply it once!  On every individual dial-up!

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I think it would make sense to put it on the Ethernet Interface (out) so 
that the router applies the access list only once, instead of on each 
individual dial-up port.

Is this right?


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Subject: Access-lists
Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2000 11:47:50 +0300


Hello all.

We are  using some AS5300 for our access-network. I need to deny some ports 
to the dialup users.
Where it is better to apply the access-lists? To the Asynchronous group or 
the the Ethernet port.

I bielive that it is better to apply the access-list to the asynchronous 
group but I am thinking whether this will affect the performance of the 
dialup users.

Any information will be appreciated



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