Clearing show buffer counters

2001-02-08 Thread Bulent Sahin

Hi,=20
I want to clear "show buffer" counters, but i couldn't find a command. =
The command "clear counters" doesn't effect "show buffer" output.
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Re: CISCO Router MIB files-2610

2001-02-08 Thread Dost

I downloaded couple weeks ago, they are .MIB files.
I will send u link from work.

Inamul

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Re: Clearing show buffer counters

2001-02-08 Thread Richard Gallagher

There is no command to clear the buffer counters, and I do not think there i
will ever be one.

The only way to do it is to reload the box.

Rich

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deleting of my loopback interface

2001-02-08 Thread suaveguru

Sorry anyone knows how to delete a loopback interface
if it is incorrectly created?


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Re: deleting of my loopback interface

2001-02-08 Thread Richard Gallagher

Nice an easy!

router# conf t
router# no interface loopback x

Rich


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Re: E&M TYPE 5

2001-02-08 Thread pinoal

Hi ,

I seen this many times , works different on other models, try changing the
IOS , I got E&M type 5,4 Wire working on 3662 with IOS 12.1T.

You may want to try this version .





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> Cards.
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> If I replace 3662 with 1750-4V with 2 E&M Cards all works well
> If I replace 3662 with 2621 with NM-2V with 2 E&M cards performs like
3662.
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> time and require E&M to be hung up for 5 Seconds before another call
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real time interface Load commands in IOS

2001-02-08 Thread Stephen Skinner

Hello,

 THIS IS A STUPID QUESTION ALERT

does anyone know if there is a command in the ios that will tell me the load 
on a serial interface in real time

I will be a remote logging in (so CS,HP-OV) out of question
At the moment i have to keep typing

SH INT S0/1 it reports "Txload" Rxload"

this is V.good but i have to keep typing it AND yes i know i should really 
be using CiscoWorks or something like that but i just wan`t to watch an 
interface when remote to see what level it is running at .

regards

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Sniffer Program

2001-02-08 Thread AABAN34


   Can someone recommend  a good WindowsME sniffer? 

   Brian

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ISDN testing question

2001-02-08 Thread Hans Stout

Hello colleagues,

I have a question regarding how to test an ISDN connection for a dialer 
interface that is mapped to a loopback interface. I am used to dialer map 
statements where I can ping the IP address that the dialer is mapped to, and 
that brings up the ISDN link. The interface I want to test now does not have 
dialer map statements, but looks like this:

interface Dialer102
description > IDSN Callback ID - Cologne, Germany
ip unnumbered Loopback1
encapsulation ppp
no ip route-cache
ip ospf cost 1500
no ip mroute-cache
dialer pool 1
dialer remote-name Router-Cologne
dialer idle-timeout 300
dialer string 0031302341498
dialer string 0031302882561
dialer string 0031302893245
dialer string 0031302883823
dialer caller 31302883823 callback
dialer caller 31302893245 callback
dialer caller 31302882561 callback
dialer caller 31302341498 callback
dialer load-threshold 64 either
dialer-group 1
no fair-queue
pulse-time 0
no cdp enable
ppp authentication chap callin
ppp chap hostname HUB-ROUTER
ppp multilink

Is there a way to test if the ISDN works without bringing down the serial 
line ?
Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards,

Hans


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HSRP on my WKS subnet

2001-02-08 Thread Stephen Skinner

Guys,

i have a slight problem ... i have 2 6509`s running HSRP on my comms vlan 4
these 65`s do all routing between Vlan`s

i have sniffer pro on my local workstation , vlan 5

i am seeing multicast traffic from 224.0.0.2 which has HSRP packet headers 
(that are hello`s)every 3 seconds
Should i be seeing these  i don`t think i should
i think the only Vlan that these should be seen on is the comms vlan 4
? answers please..

also if i am right how can i stop the HSRP hello bieng sent to all the other 
vlan`s

many thanks in advance

steve
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Dialout with ACS Server - Controlling outgoing phone number

2001-02-08 Thread Christophe_Bianco

Hello,

I want to know if it is possible to control the outgoing phone number the
user enter into the dialout utility. (For example if the user call a free
internet provider and due to my policy he is not autorized).


regards,
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RE: Dialout with ACS Server - Controlling outgoing phone number

2001-02-08 Thread Piatnitchi Cristian

Hi 

Unfortunately I am somwere behind of you on this track.
So I can't help you. :-(
Please could you tell me the configuration for 
a dialup connection and what software do u use for
that. Are u using just ACS Server ?
Hou did u set up the router ?
Is there an kind of DDR ?
THanks in advance

Cristian

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Hello,

I want to know if it is possible to control the outgoing phone number the
user enter into the dialout utility. (For example if the user call a free
internet provider and due to my policy he is not autorized).


regards,
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NAT and FTP

2001-02-08 Thread George Kadeishvili

Hi all!
We came across a strange problem. We'we been doing NAT from ethernet to
serial,
all the things seem to be working, except FTP. Problem got resolved
after turning off tcp header compression on serial. I couldn't find any
notion of it on CCO. Is it a bug, or I'm missing somethings obvious?
Regards
George

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River Delta Networks

2001-02-08 Thread Bradley J. Wilson

Anyone ever heard of River Delta Networks?  Any experiences, horror stories,
opinions?  I was just offered a perm job with them...I'm a contractor and
don't really want to go back to perm, but I'm just trying to get more info
since I've never heard of this company before.

Thanks,

BJ




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4000M+ for sale

2001-02-08 Thread Croyle, James

Excellent condition, 4000M+ router for sale from my lab.  $850.00

2 RJ 45 ethernet, 2 AUI ethernet
2 token ring
2 serial ports module # NS/34881/P/603659 (is this ISDN?)

16384K/4096K DRAM
8MB Flash

Selling so I can buy 2509/2511, will certainly trade for one.

Thanks!

Jim Croyle

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RE: Sniffer Program

2001-02-08 Thread Fowler, Robert J.

You might try the program K9-2001. It's one of the best sniffers out there.
It's uses the DUAL (Dogs Use A Light ) algorithm to search out any
unsuspecting "hosts" that are hidden, even on the darkest of nights. Not
only that but it then checks the Packet carried by any such "host" for any
goodies such as the Rubber Protocol Chewy Toy (Patent Pending) or the
Segment Biscuit. It also checks the CRC "Bytes"(Cats Reward Cats) on any
such toys/food to make sure they have not been contaminated. As always
though be careful because the K9-2001 sniffer is no compatible with all
hardware such as the PC(Prissy Cats) but runs nicely on the MAC(Mice Against
Cats). 

If Only I had paid more attention to my tagline...

Joey Fowler

...Tis better to be thought a fool, then to open your mouth and remove all
doubt. 
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RE: NAT and FTP

2001-02-08 Thread Buri, Heather H

Hi George,

I came across the following information regarding FTP and NAT from the Cisco
website.  It sounds like this could be what was going on:

CSCdk03906

When running NAT and encryption, FTP fails, but Telnet and ping work. The
TCP checksum is not calculated correctly. Removing NAT or encryption
resolves the problem.

For performance reasons, decryption is not done until the packets are
switched to the output interface. This caused the problem with IOS NAT,
because NAT may need to do the payload translation for certain protocols.
The affected protocols include FTP and NetBios, for example.

Here is the complete URL for the article:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/relnote/3600
ser/rn3600xk.htm

Heather Buri

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Hi all!
We came across a strange problem. We'we been doing NAT from ethernet to
serial,
all the things seem to be working, except FTP. Problem got resolved
after turning off tcp header compression on serial. I couldn't find any
notion of it on CCO. Is it a bug, or I'm missing somethings obvious?
Regards
George

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RE: Adding a Catalyst 6009 to existing network

2001-02-08 Thread Carlton L. Frye, Jr.

set vtp mode client

Carlton

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  Could someone tell me the procedure for adding a Catalsyt 6009 to my
existing network.  I understand that the connections must be trunked..I
have no problem there.  But when I connect the two trunks from my core
Catalsyt 6500 to the access switch Catalsyt 6009, will the 6009 start
receiving vlan information automatically?  I do not want it to be a server
of my current vtp domain.  How do ensure that this will not happen??

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Re: River Delta Networks

2001-02-08 Thread Luke

http://www.rockymountainjobs.com/profile.asp?cno=1096

http://www.findarticles.com/m0EIN/2000_Nov_7/66658144/p1/article.jhtml

Home Page
http://www.riverdelta.com/


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RE: HSRP on my WKS subnet

2001-02-08 Thread Brant Stevens

Yes, you should be seeing them...  That is proper multicast behavior, and
these packets would be seen for any VLAN that is running HSRP...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
New York, NY. 10017
646-562-6540

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Guys,

i have a slight problem ... i have 2 6509`s running HSRP on my comms vlan 4
these 65`s do all routing between Vlan`s

i have sniffer pro on my local workstation , vlan 5

i am seeing multicast traffic from 224.0.0.2 which has HSRP packet headers
(that are hello`s)every 3 seconds
Should i be seeing these  i don`t think i should
i think the only Vlan that these should be seen on is the comms vlan 4
? answers please..

also if i am right how can i stop the HSRP hello bieng sent to all the other
vlan`s

many thanks in advance

steve
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RE: Token Ring

2001-02-08 Thread Brant Stevens

Swap cables 1&2 with cables 4&5...  This also works for a T-1 cross-over...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
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New York, NY. 10017
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Hi Jason,

I don't think so given what was written in the previous posts.

However after the talk over the mysterious RFC 2549 or 1149 I don't quite
know what to think.

Maybe its time to do some more reading on token ring and figure it by
ourselves. :)

Regards,

Pierre-Alex

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without the use of an MAU, is it possible to make a token ring RJ45 to RJ45
crossover cable or it
the same as ethernet ?


Regards,

Jason Baker
Network Engineer
MCSE, CCNA


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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Brant Stevens

The question is if Router B and Router C are routing, or if they are
bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B would re-transmit a packet.
If bridging is happening, then Host A would retransmit...

Hope this helps...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
New York, NY. 10017
646-562-6540

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I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear...

Host A is sending to Host D...

A line error occurs on the serial link between Router-B and Router-C while
passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B

Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER CHOST D
Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1) (C2) (D1)

What device would rebroadcast?

I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an error had occured, and
would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but I've been through all my
books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my conclusion...

Any thoughts?

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Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread Hal White

Several people have asked me where I got the Token Ring white paper that I 
used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper from 
www.certificationzone.com when it was free for download a few months ago.  
Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you have a membership you 
should definitely read this white paper.  If you are not a member then go to 
their site and decide if it is worth spending the money.  I was not a 
member, but others on the list have said it was a good investment.
Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters about bridging and token 
ring that are also helpful although they do not explain it as well and as 
clearly as the white paper on certification zone.

There is another document about Token Ring that is also helpful which can be 
found at http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html

I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the CCIE Written.

Hal
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7000 Router

2001-02-08 Thread Rah Sta

To All,


Does the 7000 router need a special power supply to plug into? Help.



  Raheem
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Re: NAT and FTP

2001-02-08 Thread Jack Yu

But this link only mentions 12.0(5)XK.
I am using FTP with NAT and CET, the only complain I am having right now is
the users find that small files, less than 1K, can not be transferred. No
problem so far with big files.

Jack


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>
> I came across the following information regarding FTP and NAT from the
Cisco
> website.  It sounds like this could be what was going on:
>
> CSCdk03906
>
> When running NAT and encryption, FTP fails, but Telnet and ping work. The
> TCP checksum is not calculated correctly. Removing NAT or encryption
> resolves the problem.
>
> For performance reasons, decryption is not done until the packets are
> switched to the output interface. This caused the problem with IOS NAT,
> because NAT may need to do the payload translation for certain protocols.
> The affected protocols include FTP and NetBios, for example.
>
> Here is the complete URL for the article:
>
>
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios120/relnote/3600
> ser/rn3600xk.htm
>
> Heather Buri
>
> -Original Message-
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> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: NAT and FTP
>
>
> Hi all!
> We came across a strange problem. We'we been doing NAT from ethernet to
> serial,
> all the things seem to be working, except FTP. Problem got resolved
> after turning off tcp header compression on serial. I couldn't find any
> notion of it on CCO. Is it a bug, or I'm missing somethings obvious?
> Regards
> George
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RE: 7206 VXR config

2001-02-08 Thread chuck . beck

The 2 Port FE LAN adapter for the 7206 (vip based module) is not as you
might expect. It turns out
cisco will tell you NOT to use it for regular ethernet 100 Mb traffic. Seems
that board is intended for
some sort of other application and works poorly as a regular ethernet I/O.
Has bugs. I forget what
the actual reason was (from cisco) but that cards intent is not for normal
traffic. 

-Chuck

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> 
> Has anyone ever used the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller on a 7206 to 
> actually pass traffic?
> I'm worried that because it sits on a card that has other functions that 
> I won't get the needed performance from that port.  Or that I won't be 
> able to use that port for for passing in-band traffic at all.
> 
> So my decision is wavering between getting a 2-port FE LAN adapter or a 
> 1-port FE LAN adapter and using the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Jim
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RE: HSRP on my WKS subnet

2001-02-08 Thread Stephen Skinner


is there a way of blocking them because i thought that as long as the 
clients can link to the virtual addressthen there would be no need for 
the hsrp hello (which are just for the cat`s and no-one else needs to know 
about them ) to be seen by all workstations...surely this is shoving 
un-neccasery packetsa into my Vlan...

or am i completely off the mark

many thanks

steve


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>Subject: RE: HSRP on my WKS subnet
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:02:46 -0500
>
>Yes, you should be seeing them...  That is proper multicast behavior, and
>these packets would be seen for any VLAN that is running HSRP...
>
>Brant I. Stevens
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>
>
>Guys,
>
>i have a slight problem ... i have 2 6509`s running HSRP on my comms vlan 4
>these 65`s do all routing between Vlan`s
>
>i have sniffer pro on my local workstation , vlan 5
>
>i am seeing multicast traffic from 224.0.0.2 which has HSRP packet headers
>(that are hello`s)every 3 seconds
>Should i be seeing these  i don`t think i should
>i think the only Vlan that these should be seen on is the comms vlan 4
>? answers please..
>
>also if i am right how can i stop the HSRP hello bieng sent to all the 
>other
>vlan`s
>
>many thanks in advance
>
>steve
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RE: 7000 Router

2001-02-08 Thread Pierre-Alex

This is a message that was posted earlier during the week by one of the
group members. Hope this helps. Pierre-Alex

You're OK.
I believe that the 7000 AC power supply is rated at 700 watts. volts times
amps equals power. So power divided by voltage equals amps. Assuming normal
electrical service in an US home  700/120 = 5.83 amps. The true current draw
would be determined by the number and type of cards in the router. I have
never taken a current reading of a working system. There is a large noisy
blower in the chassis. The whole is a useful space heater for cold winter
nights.

The standard US cord has a plug end that fits a regular 15 Amp receptacle. I
have run a 7000 at home.

Most electrical receptacles are rated at 15 amps. A normal electrical branch
circuit is rated at 20 amps - usable at 16 amps for continuous duty (over
three hours). So all should be well. The problem is that normal electrical
branch circuits have several (up to ten) receptacles on the circuit. The
total load cannot exceed 16 amps.


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To All,


Does the 7000 router need a special power supply to plug into? Help.



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Price on Cisco 3600

2001-02-08 Thread James . McCurry

I'm tring to setup my lab and I found several Cisco 3600's.  What I ned to
know is the value of the routers and how much I should offer for them. I
know the cheeper the better.  They have one WIC DSU/CSU and 1 ISDN module.  

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RE: Price on Cisco 3600

2001-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

I normally go to http://www.cnet.com and look.

If you search for CISCO 3620, you will see that the cheapest place is
LanBlvd.com that can sell it to you for $1,844.-

I have bought from them before (a Catalyst 3548), and they are reliable.

If you want it cheaper than that, you probably have to look on auction sites
(yahoo, amazon, ebay, etc.).

Hth,

Ole


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I'm tring to setup my lab and I found several Cisco 3600's.  What I ned to
know is the value of the routers and how much I should offer for them. I
know the cheeper the better.  They have one WIC DSU/CSU and 1 ISDN module.  

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RE: Packet Level / Sniffer Groupstudy? ?

2001-02-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

There are a bunch of groups here...

http://groups.yahoo.com/

Formerly known as egroups, they are now merged with Yahoo.

Hth,

Ole


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Hi Group,
 I have recieved so much insight and help from this groupstudy that im
hoping that there is a simular groupstudy for sniffers/packet decoding etc.
. Does anyone know of such a group, list or message board?

any replies would be appreciated!

Jerry

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Re[2]: CISCO Router MIB files-2610

2001-02-08 Thread Jeffrey J Kujath

Just rename them to the appropriate extension, they'll work fine.

Jeff

Thursday, February 08, 2001, 1:27:44 AM, you wrote:

D> I downloaded couple weeks ago, they are .MIB files.
D> I will send u link from work.

D> Inamul

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>>
>> Can anybody tell me that where can I find MIB files for CISCO Router 2610.
D> I went to CISCo's web site but what I found was all the files with extension
D> MY . I don't understand how to go with this one.
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CCIE Recertification UPDATE (Networkers not needed anymore)

2001-02-08 Thread Brad Ellis

Thanks to Mr. Zudal, CCIEs are no longered required to attend Networkers to
recert for their CCIE status.

-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796
Cisco Hardware:  www.optsys.net

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Dear CCIE,

In 1997, we introduced the CCIE recertification program. At that time
there were two requirements: attend 5 CCIE-level sessions at Networkers
and successfully complete a CCIE recertification exam every two years.

In response to your feedback, we have decided to drop the Networkers
session requirement for recertification. We will still have CCIE-level
sessions at selected Networkers, however effective February 1, 2001,
attendance will no longer be mandatory for recertification.

All CCIE recertification deadlines will remain the same. Effective
February 1, 2001, a CCIE will be required to successfully complete one
CCIE recertification exam every two years in accordance with your current
deadline.

As part of this program update, we will no longer be issuing
recertification certificates. Exam results are downloaded automatically
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FW: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question

2001-02-08 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm



-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: February 8, 2001 10:17 AM
To: Jim Dixon
Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question


Actually, what I'm saying is that John wanted to know whether or not he
should change the default Ethernet frame type from Ethernet_II to Ethernet
802.3.  My question was meant to provoke John to understand what the default
frame type is used for--which really is a pre-requisite to be able to
understand what benefits or drawbacks (if any) changing the default frame
type would bring.

Why Ethernet_II is the default frame type likely has to do with the fact
that most packets that don't have a pre-determined Ethernet frame type don't
require the functionality that's inherent within 802.3 or provided by the
inclusion of an 802.2 header.  It's a frame type that's supported by the
most antique Ethernet equipment since it's the original Ethernet
specification.

I thought it was also worthy of discussion, because how the default Ethernet
frame type is used by a router differs from IPX in that a router will route
ANY IP Ethernet frame - not just the specified frame type.  Comparing IPX
Ethernet frame types to IP frame types is, in my opinion, somewhat akin to
comparing apples and oranges.  They're both fruits, but they've got
differences that make each unique and unable to be compared.

In summary, I've found that a small chunk of my brain has been "Howard
Berkowitz-ized" -- or, in other words, the question that came to mind when
John asked if he should change the default Ethernet frame type was... "What
problem is it that you're trying to solve?"  And without understanding when
the default Ethernet frame type came into play, he couldn't assess what the
implications of his change would be.

If you don't mind, I'd like to cc this message to the Groupstudy group
(minus this paragraph of course).  I think it will help clarify in the minds
of some, exactly what it was that I was trying to get at, and why.  And I
think you bring up some interesting points for thought...


  -- Leigh Anne

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Sent: February 8, 2001 9:07 AM
To: Leigh Anne Chisholm
Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question


Now, finally it begins to make sense what you were talking about.  It was
confusing us a bit.


You are saying why go to all the trouble of having a dam DEFAULT type if
they will either ignore, drop, or just frigging encapsulate the
(@#*$(@#*&&$-ity-blank-ity packet anyway right?

So your question was not how, or what, by WHY WHY WHY!!! :)

the answer is

It Depends on whom you ask as to what the answer will be.

I suppose it had something to do with 802.3 being the MOST POPULAR with
Novell be prolific earlier on.
Then when they came out with an 802.2 support  in what
3.12 < I think > it really showed that they were too proprietary and were
coming around to the unix world's way of thinking.

So I guess since there was always a mish-mash of protocols in networks being
not-upgraded immediately but over time a decision had to be made on which
protocol to support out of the box and how to support the protocols that
were EXTRA on the network.

I think maybe they just did what they had to do instead of what needed to
happen.

So in the end, we have no answers only

I thought, you thought, and we all thinked thanked and thunk about it till
it thunked itself into the future.


Seriously though, thanks for telling us what you had in mind.

have a good day and give your brain a break, you could stop by the Nasa
homepage and watch NASA TV.  Atlantis lifted off yesterday at about 17:30
Central time (Successfully)  I was a little dissapointed because there was
only a one sentence mention on the news about it but they spent 5 minutes
talking about some wreck that just happened and killed some people.
ANyWAY that's a different argument.

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Re: LLC type 1

2001-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Anyone know if there's a LAN type out there that
>uses LLC type 1 headers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> JD
>


Pretty much everything that isn't Ethernet II.

Caveats:  some Token Ring networks may use LLC type 2.
   LLC type 3 has been used in specialized real-time applications.

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various catalyst5505 syntax question..help as much as you can!

2001-02-08 Thread Richard spalding

Hi...Dear All,

Recently, we just took over the administrator of catalyst 5505 switches, my 
boss want me give me a full report on this switches in two days time.  But I 
don't understand some of the syntax. Pls help as much as you can even you 
may only one of the question , welcome to contribute..

1) What is mean by the following, how many vlan are there?? what is mean by 
mtu 1500 said 11 ?

#vtp
set vtp domain TOTO
set vlan 1 name default type ethernet mtu 1500 said 11 state active
set vlan 2 name VLAN0002 type ethernet mtu 1500 said 12 state active
set vlan 3 name VLAN0003 type ethernet mtu 1500 said 13 state active
set vlan 1002 name fddi-default type fddi mtu 1500 said 101002 state active
set vlan 1004 name fddinet-default type fddinet mtu 1500 said 101004 state 
activ
e stp ieee
set vlan 1005 name trnet-default type trbrf mtu 1500 said 101005 state 
active st
p ibm
set vlan 1003 name token-ring-default type trcrf mtu 1500 said 101003 state 
acti
ve mode srb aremaxhop 0 stemaxhop 0 backupcrf off
!


2)Which interface is sc0 refer to? I know this represent IP of the switches, 
but any secial meaning of sc0 1 ???
set interface sc0 1 50.200.45.252/255.255.255.0 50.200.45.255

3)why vlan1,2,3 setting is different from vlan1003,1005?? what is mean by 
spantree priority 16384??  why vlan1002,1004 not specify here? not in use??

#spantree
#vlan 1
set spantree priority 16384 1
#vlan 2
set spantree priority 16384 2
#vlan 3
set spantree priority 16384 3
#vlan 1003
set spantree fwddelay 151003
set spantree maxage   201003
#vlan 1005
set spantree fwddelay 151005
set spantree maxage   201005set spantree portcost1/1  3006

4)What is the different between portcost and portvlancost? why the value 
different??

set spantree portcost1/1  3006
set spantree portcost1/2  3019
set spantree portvlancost 1/1  cost 3005
set spantree portvlancost 1/2  cost 3018

5)What is mean by portpri? cost 3004 4-8,11-15 what is mean??
#module 2 : 1-port Route Switch
set spantree portcost2/1  3005
set spantree portpri 2/1  15
set spantree portvlancost 2/1  cost 3004 4-8,11-15

6)what is mean by trunk 3/5 off negotiate???
set trunk 3/5  off negotiate 1-1005
set trunk 3/6  off negotiate 1-1005

7)Generally in what kind of situation , we should disable the MLS in the 
catalyst switch?


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LLC type 1

2001-02-08 Thread Jeremy Dumoit



   Anyone know if there's a LAN type out there that
uses LLC type 1 headers?

Thanks,

JD

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Packet Level / Sniffer Groupstudy? ?

2001-02-08 Thread Jerry Deer

Hi Group,
 I have recieved so much insight and help from this groupstudy that im
hoping that there is a simular groupstudy for sniffers/packet decoding etc.
. Does anyone know of such a group, list or message board?

any replies would be appreciated!

Jerry

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Type-1 Cable

2001-02-08 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings all,

Cisco came out with an article about connecting type-1 cable to its
switches, do you guys have a link on that?

Thanks,

Nabil

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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm

Would Router B retransmit if Frame Relay was used as the encapsulation
protocol?  If so, how would Frame Relay detect the loss of the "packet"?
What about X.25--would Router B retransmit?  How would X.25 detect the loss?
What about HDLC?  PPP?

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Sent: February 8, 2001 9:10 AM
To: Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: not quite sure...


The question is if Router B and Router C are routing, or if they are
bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B would re-transmit a packet.
If bridging is happening, then Host A would retransmit...

Hope this helps...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
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545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
New York, NY. 10017
646-562-6540

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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: not quite sure...


I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear...

Host A is sending to Host D...

A line error occurs on the serial link between Router-B and Router-C while
passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B

Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER CHOST D
Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1) (C2) (D1)

What device would rebroadcast?

I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an error had occured, and
would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but I've been through all my
books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my conclusion...

Any thoughts?

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Re: T1 Link

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:58 PM 2/7/01, Santosh Koshy wrote:
>Thanks priscilla, that helped tremendously...
>If that is the case... then what is the most common L2 Encapsulation used
>when usually setting up a T1 link...(point to point)
>Is it safe to assume HDLC as that is the default encap on the cisco routers

HDLC is common for point-to-point links, but Cisco's HDLC is non-standard, 
so if you were connecting to a non-Cisco router you would probably use PPP.

In many parts of the world, Frame Relay is the most common WAN 
encapsulation, but it sounded like you were asking about point-to-poin 
circuits, so that might not be relevant.

Priscilla


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>Subject: Re: T1 Link
>
>
> > Seeing that nobody had really addressed your question yet, I decided to
> > take a stab at it.
> >
> > T1 is a high-speed digital carrier facility developed by AT&T in the 1950s
> > to support long-haul pulse-code modulation (PCM) voice transmission. T1
> > provides digital voice circuits or "channels." There are 24 channels per
> > each T1 line or "trunk."
> >
> > AT&T describes their Digital Carrier System as a "two-point, dedicated,
> > high capacity, digital service provided on terrestrial digital facilities
> > capable of transmitting 1.544 Mbps. The interface to the customer can be
> > either a T1 carrier or a higher order multiplexed facility."
> >
> > So, what do you think? To send data on this do we need to encapsulate it?
> > You betcha, as Leo on TechTalk would say. That's why we have
>"encapsulation
> > frame-relay" and "encapsulation ppp," among others.
> >
> > Hope that helps a bit.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> >
> >
> > >On Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 06:36:34 PM, Santosh Koshy wrote:
> > >
> > > > Pardon my ignorance here
> > > > Is there such a thing as just a "T1 Link"...
> > > >
> > > > of what I understand T1 / Frac T1 resides in the physical layer
>Dont u
> > > > need something at the Data Link Layer (such as Frame Relay) before you
>can
> > > > enable IP or IPX at layer 3
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Re: LLC type 1

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

You are applying the OSI layering model upside down with this question. You 
should be asking if there is any network-layer protocol that uses the LLC 1 
service at the data-link layer. And the answer is yes. IP, Novell, 
AppleTalk, etc. use LLC 1 if they use LLC at all. (They can all use 
Ethernet V2; see the discussion on 802.3 for more info on that!)

NetBEUI uses LLC type 2. SNA uses LLC type 2.

Priscilla

At 09:17 AM 2/8/01, Jeremy Dumoit wrote:
>Anyone know if there's a LAN type out there that
>uses LLC type 1 headers?
>
> Thanks,
>
> JD
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Re: FW: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

OK, I have a dumb question. When we talk about "default" encapsulation, are 
we talking about an actual command? The "encapsulation" command can be 
entered in Ethernet interface mode, I think. (I'm not near a router now.)

The only times I ever change the encapsulation is with the ipx network 
encap command.

Thanks for the interesting conversation.

Priscilla

At 10:59 AM 2/8/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:


>-Original Message-
>From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: February 8, 2001 10:17 AM
>To: Jim Dixon
>Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question
>
>
>Actually, what I'm saying is that John wanted to know whether or not he
>should change the default Ethernet frame type from Ethernet_II to Ethernet
>802.3.  My question was meant to provoke John to understand what the default
>frame type is used for--which really is a pre-requisite to be able to
>understand what benefits or drawbacks (if any) changing the default frame
>type would bring.
>
>Why Ethernet_II is the default frame type likely has to do with the fact
>that most packets that don't have a pre-determined Ethernet frame type don't
>require the functionality that's inherent within 802.3 or provided by the
>inclusion of an 802.2 header.  It's a frame type that's supported by the
>most antique Ethernet equipment since it's the original Ethernet
>specification.
>
>I thought it was also worthy of discussion, because how the default Ethernet
>frame type is used by a router differs from IPX in that a router will route
>ANY IP Ethernet frame - not just the specified frame type.  Comparing IPX
>Ethernet frame types to IP frame types is, in my opinion, somewhat akin to
>comparing apples and oranges.  They're both fruits, but they've got
>differences that make each unique and unable to be compared.
>
>In summary, I've found that a small chunk of my brain has been "Howard
>Berkowitz-ized" -- or, in other words, the question that came to mind when
>John asked if he should change the default Ethernet frame type was... "What
>problem is it that you're trying to solve?"  And without understanding when
>the default Ethernet frame type came into play, he couldn't assess what the
>implications of his change would be.
>
>If you don't mind, I'd like to cc this message to the Groupstudy group
>(minus this paragraph of course).  I think it will help clarify in the minds
>of some, exactly what it was that I was trying to get at, and why.  And I
>think you bring up some interesting points for thought...
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: February 8, 2001 9:07 AM
>To: Leigh Anne Chisholm
>Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question
>
>
>Now, finally it begins to make sense what you were talking about.  It was
>confusing us a bit.
>
>
>You are saying why go to all the trouble of having a dam DEFAULT type if
>they will either ignore, drop, or just frigging encapsulate the
>(@#*$(@#*&&$-ity-blank-ity packet anyway right?
>
>So your question was not how, or what, by WHY WHY WHY!!! :)
>
>the answer is
>
>It Depends on whom you ask as to what the answer will be.
>
>I suppose it had something to do with 802.3 being the MOST POPULAR with
>Novell be prolific earlier on.
>Then when they came out with an 802.2 support  in what
>3.12 < I think > it really showed that they were too proprietary and were
>coming around to the unix world's way of thinking.
>
>So I guess since there was always a mish-mash of protocols in networks being
>not-upgraded immediately but over time a decision had to be made on which
>protocol to support out of the box and how to support the protocols that
>were EXTRA on the network.
>
>I think maybe they just did what they had to do instead of what needed to
>happen.
>
>So in the end, we have no answers only
>
>I thought, you thought, and we all thinked thanked and thunk about it till
>it thunked itself into the future.
>
>
>Seriously though, thanks for telling us what you had in mind.
>
>have a good day and give your brain a break, you could stop by the Nasa
>homepage and watch NASA TV.  Atlantis lifted off yesterday at about 17:30
>Central time (Successfully)  I was a little dissapointed because there was
>only a one sentence mention on the news about it but they spent 5 minutes
>talking about some wreck that just happened and killed some people.
>ANyWAY that's a different argument.
>
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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Christopher Larson

Frame-relay will not retransmit lost packets. It is up to the end stations.
X.25 will retransmit.
Any protocol that uses lapb will retransmit (at the router) if it does not
use lapb or some other error detection/correction mechanism then the end
station will be responsible for retransmission




-Original Message-
From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:41 PM
To: Brant Stevens; Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: not quite sure...


Would Router B retransmit if Frame Relay was used as the encapsulation
protocol?  If so, how would Frame Relay detect the loss of the "packet"?
What about X.25--would Router B retransmit?  How would X.25 detect the loss?
What about HDLC?  PPP?

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Brant Stevens
Sent: February 8, 2001 9:10 AM
To: Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: not quite sure...


The question is if Router B and Router C are routing, or if they are
bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B would re-transmit a packet.
If bridging is happening, then Host A would retransmit...

Hope this helps...

Brant I. Stevens
Internetwork Solutions Engineer
Thrupoint, Inc.
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-Original Message-
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Dennis Laganiere
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: not quite sure...


I've tried to diagram this question to make it clear...

Host A is sending to Host D...

A line error occurs on the serial link between Router-B and Router-C while
passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B

Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER CHOST D
Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1) (C2) (D1)

What device would rebroadcast?

I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an error had occured, and
would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but I've been through all my
books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my conclusion...

Any thoughts?

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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Jeremy Dumoit



   I actually think it depends on what encapsulation
is running accross the serial link.  If you're using
HDLC then it's a connection oriented, reliable
protocol... meaning if a packet is lost in transit
accross the serial link, the router will knw it when
it receives a response from the destination router. 
It'll then resend the frame.  If you're using a
datagram protocol, like ppp, however, it will rely on
the upper layer protocols to detect missing data..  


--- Brant Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The question is if Router B and Router C are
> routing, or if they are
> bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B
> would re-transmit a packet.
> If bridging is happening, then Host A would
> retransmit...
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Brant I. Stevens
> Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> Thrupoint, Inc.
> 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> New York, NY. 10017
> 646-562-6540
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dennis Laganiere
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: not quite sure...
> 
> 
> I've tried to diagram this question to make it
> clear...
> 
> Host A is sending to Host D...
> 
> A line error occurs on the serial link between
> Router-B and Router-C while
> passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B
> 
> Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER
> CHOST D
> Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1)
> (C2) (D1)
> 
> What device would rebroadcast?
> 
> I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an
> error had occured, and
> would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but
> I've been through all my
> books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my
> conclusion...
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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Cisco CCNP books question

2001-02-08 Thread Hunt Lee

I passed my CCDA today.  Thanks so much for all your help and support.

Does anyone know what is the difference between the CCNP Certification
Library and CCNP Preparation Library?  Which is better to use for
studying the CCNP exams?

CCNP Certification Library:

CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide
CCNP Switching Exam Certification Guide
CCNP Remote Access Exam Certification Guide
CCNP Support Exam Certification Guide

CCNP Preparation Library:

Building Scalable Cisco Networks
Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks
Building Cisco Remote Access Networks
Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
Hunt Lee
IP Solution Anaylst
Cable and Wireless (Sydney)

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RE: various catalyst5505 syntax question..help as much as you can!

2001-02-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

Your absolute best resource is "Cisco LAN Switching" by Clark and Hamilton,
Cisco Press ISBN 1-57870-094-9 Chapter 7. Run to your local book store and
buy it.

Does your boss have pointy hair?

1) mtu is maximum transmission unit. 1500 is the default for ethernet.
SAID, Security Association Identifier. Cisco adds 100,000 to the VLAN number
to create the SAID value. VLAN 1 = 11
You have three active ethernet VLANs
The FDDI and Token Ring VLANs are defaults and most likely not used.

2) sc0 1 means that the "virtual PC" that holds the IP stack is in VLAN 1
(which is default).
sc0 vlan#, ip address, subnet mask, broadcast address

3) spantree priority default is 32768. 16384 may make this switch the root
switch (for the VLAN in question. If no VLAN is specified then VLAN 1.) Do a
"show spantree #" Where # is each VLAN. if you see "Designated Root Cost" at
0 then that switch is the root for that VLAN.

4 & 5) Don't have time to look it up. They did some tuning with the values.
You'll have to look at all the switches to figure out what was intended.
Create a drawing of the physical network. Map each VLAN individually unless
all the values on all the VLANs are the same.

6) "off negotiate" means that a trunk can never be established on this link.

7) MLS only works if you have a Supervisor III E-2 or above with NFFC (open
to correction on this one) and you have an internal routing function RSM
card or RSFC or have an external router with MLS configured. If you have it
working, someone went through the effort to create it. Don't change it until
you know what was intended and why it should be changed. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Richard spalding [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:11 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: various catalyst5505 syntax question..help as much 
> as you can! 
> 
> 
> Hi...Dear All,
> 
> Recently, we just took over the administrator of catalyst 
> 5505 switches, my 
> boss want me give me a full report on this switches in two 
> days time.  But I 
> don't understand some of the syntax. Pls help as much as you 
> can even you 
> may only one of the question , welcome to contribute..
> 
> 1) What is mean by the following, how many vlan are there?? 
> what is mean by 
> mtu 1500 said 11 ?
> 
> #vtp
> set vtp domain TOTO
> set vlan 1 name default type ethernet mtu 1500 said 11 
> state active
> set vlan 2 name VLAN0002 type ethernet mtu 1500 said 12 
> state active
> set vlan 3 name VLAN0003 type ethernet mtu 1500 said 13 
> state active
> set vlan 1002 name fddi-default type fddi mtu 1500 said 
> 101002 state active
> set vlan 1004 name fddinet-default type fddinet mtu 1500 said 
> 101004 state 
> activ
> e stp ieee
> set vlan 1005 name trnet-default type trbrf mtu 1500 said 
> 101005 state 
> active st
> p ibm
> set vlan 1003 name token-ring-default type trcrf mtu 1500 
> said 101003 state 
> acti
> ve mode srb aremaxhop 0 stemaxhop 0 backupcrf off
> !
> 
> 
> 2)Which interface is sc0 refer to? I know this represent IP 
> of the switches, 
> but any secial meaning of sc0 1 ???
> set interface sc0 1 50.200.45.252/255.255.255.0 50.200.45.255
> 
> 3)why vlan1,2,3 setting is different from vlan1003,1005?? 
> what is mean by 
> spantree priority 16384??  why vlan1002,1004 not specify 
> here? not in use??
> 
> #spantree
> #vlan 1
> set spantree priority 16384 1
> #vlan 2
> set spantree priority 16384 2
> #vlan 3
> set spantree priority 16384 3
> #vlan 1003
> set spantree fwddelay 151003
> set spantree maxage   201003
> #vlan 1005
> set spantree fwddelay 151005
> set spantree maxage   201005set spantree portcost1/1  3006
> 
> 4)What is the different between portcost and portvlancost? 
> why the value 
> different??
> 
> set spantree portcost1/1  3006
> set spantree portcost1/2  3019
> set spantree portvlancost 1/1  cost 3005
> set spantree portvlancost 1/2  cost 3018
> 
> 5)What is mean by portpri? cost 3004 4-8,11-15 what is mean??
> #module 2 : 1-port Route Switch
> set spantree portcost2/1  3005
> set spantree portpri 2/1  15
> set spantree portvlancost 2/1  cost 3004 4-8,11-15
> 
> 6)what is mean by trunk 3/5 off negotiate???
> set trunk 3/5  off negotiate 1-1005
> set trunk 3/6  off negotiate 1-1005
> 
> 7)Generally in what kind of situation , we should disable the 
> MLS in the 
> catalyst switch?
> 
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Re: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread James Haynes

Here's a link to a white paper on Token Ring. I haven't had a chance to read
it yet so I can't vouch for it's depth of knowledge.

Jim


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> Several people have asked me where I got the Token Ring white paper that I
> used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper from
> www.certificationzone.com when it was free for download a few months ago.
> Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you have a membership you
> should definitely read this white paper.  If you are not a member then go
to
> their site and decide if it is worth spending the money.  I was not a
> member, but others on the list have said it was a good investment.
> Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters about bridging and
token
> ring that are also helpful although they do not explain it as well and as
> clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
>
> There is another document about Token Ring that is also helpful which can
be
> found at http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
>
> I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the CCIE Written.
>
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Re: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread James Haynes

Helps if you add the link :-)

http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf

Jim

""James Haynes"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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> Here's a link to a white paper on Token Ring. I haven't had a chance to
read
> it yet so I can't vouch for it's depth of knowledge.
>
> Jim
>
>
> ""Hal White"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > Several people have asked me where I got the Token Ring white paper that
I
> > used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper from
> > www.certificationzone.com when it was free for download a few months
ago.
> > Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you have a membership you
> > should definitely read this white paper.  If you are not a member then
go
> to
> > their site and decide if it is worth spending the money.  I was not a
> > member, but others on the list have said it was a good investment.
> > Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters about bridging and
> token
> > ring that are also helpful although they do not explain it as well and
as
> > clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
> >
> > There is another document about Token Ring that is also helpful which
can
> be
> > found at http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> >
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RE: FW: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question

2001-02-08 Thread Sheahan, Ryan

I am sitting on a 2501 and the encap command can only be used when
configuring ipx subcommands. (running 11.3)

HTH 

Ryan


RouterC(config-if)#?
Interface configuration commands:
  access-expression   Build a bridge boolean access expression
  appletalk   Appletalk interface subcommands
  arp Set arp type (arpa, probe, snap) or timeout
  backup  Modify dial-backup parameters
  bandwidth   Set bandwidth informational parameter
  bridge-groupTransparent bridging interface parameters
  carrier-delay   Specify delay for interface transitions
  cdp CDP interface subcommands
  cmnsOSI CMNS
  custom-queue-list   Assign a custom queue list to an interface
  decnet  Interface DECnet config commands
  default Set a command to its defaults
  delay   Specify interface throughput delay
  description Interface specific description
  exitExit from interface configuration mode
  fair-queue  Enable Fair Queuing on an Interface
  helpDescription of the interactive help system
  hold-queue  Set hold queue depth
  ip  Interface Internet Protocol config commands
  ipx Novell/IPX interface subcommands
  keepalive   Enable keepalive
 --More--

-Original Message-
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: FW: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question


OK, I have a dumb question. When we talk about "default" encapsulation, are 
we talking about an actual command? The "encapsulation" command can be 
entered in Ethernet interface mode, I think. (I'm not near a router now.)

The only times I ever change the encapsulation is with the ipx network 
encap command.

Thanks for the interesting conversation.

Priscilla

At 10:59 AM 2/8/01, Leigh Anne Chisholm wrote:


>-Original Message-
>From: Leigh Anne Chisholm [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: February 8, 2001 10:17 AM
>To: Jim Dixon
>Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question
>
>
>Actually, what I'm saying is that John wanted to know whether or not he
>should change the default Ethernet frame type from Ethernet_II to Ethernet
>802.3.  My question was meant to provoke John to understand what the
default
>frame type is used for--which really is a pre-requisite to be able to
>understand what benefits or drawbacks (if any) changing the default frame
>type would bring.
>
>Why Ethernet_II is the default frame type likely has to do with the fact
>that most packets that don't have a pre-determined Ethernet frame type
don't
>require the functionality that's inherent within 802.3 or provided by the
>inclusion of an 802.2 header.  It's a frame type that's supported by the
>most antique Ethernet equipment since it's the original Ethernet
>specification.
>
>I thought it was also worthy of discussion, because how the default
Ethernet
>frame type is used by a router differs from IPX in that a router will route
>ANY IP Ethernet frame - not just the specified frame type.  Comparing IPX
>Ethernet frame types to IP frame types is, in my opinion, somewhat akin to
>comparing apples and oranges.  They're both fruits, but they've got
>differences that make each unique and unable to be compared.
>
>In summary, I've found that a small chunk of my brain has been "Howard
>Berkowitz-ized" -- or, in other words, the question that came to mind when
>John asked if he should change the default Ethernet frame type was... "What
>problem is it that you're trying to solve?"  And without understanding when
>the default Ethernet frame type came into play, he couldn't assess what the
>implications of his change would be.
>
>If you don't mind, I'd like to cc this message to the Groupstudy group
>(minus this paragraph of course).  I think it will help clarify in the
minds
>of some, exactly what it was that I was trying to get at, and why.  And I
>think you bring up some interesting points for thought...
>
>
>   -- Leigh Anne
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Jim Dixon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: February 8, 2001 9:07 AM
>To: Leigh Anne Chisholm
>Subject: RE: Another 802.3 and Ethernet Question
>
>
>Now, finally it begins to make sense what you were talking about.  It was
>confusing us a bit.
>
>
>You are saying why go to all the trouble of having a dam DEFAULT type if
>they will either ignore, drop, or just frigging encapsulate the
>(@#*$(@#*&&$-ity-blank-ity packet anyway right?
>
>So your question was not how, or what, by WHY WHY WHY!!! :)
>
>the answer is
>
>It Depends on whom you ask as to what the answer will be.
>
>I suppose it had something to do with 802.3 being the MOST POPULAR with
>Novell be prolific earlier on.
>Then when they came out with an 802.2 support  in what
>3.12 < I think > it really showed that they were too proprietary and were
>coming around to the unix world's way of th

passed the CCNP routing!

2001-02-08 Thread Fred Danson

I just passed the CCNP routing exam with a score of 908! Thank you everyone 
for the help. :)
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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Christopher Larson

HDLC will not retransmit as there is only error detection in HDLC, but no
error correction. This is the same with Frame-relay. Frame-relay, and HDLC
will detect and discard errored frames but will not retransmit those frames.
They depend on upper layers (like TCP for TCP/IP) to recognize there is a
missing packet and correct that error.  


The end station will respond by acking the next packet it recieves with the
appriopriate (lower numbered) sequence number. The originating station will
get this ack (with the lower sequence number) see that the end station is
requesting a packet out of sequence and the originating station will begin
it's next transmission with the data from that particular sequence number.





-Original Message-
From: Jeremy Dumoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:19 PM
To: Brant Stevens; Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: not quite sure...




   I actually think it depends on what encapsulation
is running accross the serial link.  If you're using
HDLC then it's a connection oriented, reliable
protocol... meaning if a packet is lost in transit
accross the serial link, the router will knw it when
it receives a response from the destination router. 
It'll then resend the frame.  If you're using a
datagram protocol, like ppp, however, it will rely on
the upper layer protocols to detect missing data..  


--- Brant Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The question is if Router B and Router C are
> routing, or if they are
> bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B
> would re-transmit a packet.
> If bridging is happening, then Host A would
> retransmit...
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Brant I. Stevens
> Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> Thrupoint, Inc.
> 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> New York, NY. 10017
> 646-562-6540
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dennis Laganiere
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: not quite sure...
> 
> 
> I've tried to diagram this question to make it
> clear...
> 
> Host A is sending to Host D...
> 
> A line error occurs on the serial link between
> Router-B and Router-C while
> passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B
> 
> Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER
> CHOST D
> Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1)
> (C2) (D1)
> 
> What device would rebroadcast?
> 
> I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an
> error had occured, and
> would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but
> I've been through all my
> books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my
> conclusion...
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Christopher Larson

HDLC will not retransmit as there is only error detection in HDLC, but no
error correction.




Original Message-
From: Jeremy Dumoit [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 2:19 PM
To: Brant Stevens; Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: not quite sure...




   I actually think it depends on what encapsulation
is running accross the serial link.  If you're using
HDLC then it's a connection oriented, reliable
protocol... meaning if a packet is lost in transit
accross the serial link, the router will knw it when
it receives a response from the destination router. 
It'll then resend the frame.  If you're using a
datagram protocol, like ppp, however, it will rely on
the upper layer protocols to detect missing data..  


--- Brant Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> The question is if Router B and Router C are
> routing, or if they are
> bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B
> would re-transmit a packet.
> If bridging is happening, then Host A would
> retransmit...
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Brant I. Stevens
> Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> Thrupoint, Inc.
> 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> New York, NY. 10017
> 646-562-6540
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dennis Laganiere
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: not quite sure...
> 
> 
> I've tried to diagram this question to make it
> clear...
> 
> Host A is sending to Host D...
> 
> A line error occurs on the serial link between
> Router-B and Router-C while
> passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B
> 
> Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER
> CHOST D
> Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1)
> (C2) (D1)
> 
> What device would rebroadcast?
> 
> I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an
> error had occured, and
> would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but
> I've been through all my
> books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my
> conclusion...
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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Re: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread Hal White

That is one the one that I used.  It has been so long since I printed it out 
that I forgot where it came from.  I am not sure if it is the same one as 
the one on certificationzone.com or not, but it is the one I used and it is 
free.  I apologize if I gave the wrong site but it has been several months 
since I printed the document and it is a pdf so there is no URL on the 
bottom.



>From: Yonkerbonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Token Ring White Paper
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:45:15 -0800 (PST)
>
>I originall found it on ccprep.com and it's still
>there. So check that out under Resources.
>
>Michael
>
>--- Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Several people have asked me where I got the Token
> > Ring white paper that I
> > used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper
> > from
> > www.certificationzone.com when it was free for
> > download a few months ago.
> > Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you
> > have a membership you
> > should definitely read this white paper.  If you are
> > not a member then go to
> > their site and decide if it is worth spending the
> > money.  I was not a
> > member, but others on the list have said it was a
> > good investment.
> > Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters
> > about bridging and token
> > ring that are also helpful although they do not
> > explain it as well and as
> > clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
> >
> > There is another document about Token Ring that is
> > also helpful which can be
> > found at
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> >
> > I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the
> > CCIE Written.
> >
> > Hal
> >
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Load Balancing Advice

2001-02-08 Thread Yonkerbonk

[MCI][Cat5K  w/RSM][UUNet]
   |
  Internal LAN


   I have a client with two Internet routers running
BGP multihomed to the ISPs, MCI and UUNET. Inbound
traffic to their AS is pretty much balanced between
MCI and UUNET. On the inside however, where MCI and
UUNET connect into a Cat5K, the MCI is the HSRP active
router and thus handles most of the outbound traffic.
The client wants to load balance outbound traffic
between the two.
   So when the client recently added an RSM to the
Cat5K, I proposed to remove HSRP totally and run OSPF
so that the RSM sees two equal-cost default routes to
the routers.
   My question is, can you run default-information
originate on two routers? And would that work in this
scenario?
   Thanks.
  
   Michael

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Re: CCIE Recertification UPDATE (Networkers not needed anymore)

2001-02-08 Thread Yonkerbonk

That means we have no more excuses to tell our
managers we need to go to New Orleans or Vegas. :)

Michael

--- Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Thanks to Mr. Zudal, CCIEs are no longered required
> to attend Networkers to
> recert for their CCIE status.
> 
> -Brad Ellis
> CCIE#5796
> Cisco Hardware:  www.optsys.net
> 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:19 PM
> To: szudal@
> Subject: CCIE Recertification Changes
> 
> 
> Dear CCIE,
> 
> In 1997, we introduced the CCIE recertification
> program. At that time
> there were two requirements: attend 5 CCIE-level
> sessions at Networkers
> and successfully complete a CCIE recertification
> exam every two years.
> 
> In response to your feedback, we have decided to
> drop the Networkers
> session requirement for recertification. We will
> still have CCIE-level
> sessions at selected Networkers, however effective
> February 1, 2001,
> attendance will no longer be mandatory for
> recertification.
> 
> All CCIE recertification deadlines will remain the
> same. Effective
> February 1, 2001, a CCIE will be required to
> successfully complete one
> CCIE recertification exam every two years in
> accordance with your current
> deadline.
> 
> As part of this program update, we will no longer be
> issuing
> recertification certificates. Exam results are
> downloaded automatically
> into the CCIE database. When the CCIE team receives
> your successful exam
> result, an email notification will be sent to you
> verifying your
> recertification status.
> 
> If you have any questions, please write to
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Good Luck
> with your CCIE recertification!
> 
> Regards,
> 
> CCIE Team
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: Cisco CCNP books question

2001-02-08 Thread Andy Barkl

Just buy them both. You'll need them.

At 06:36 AM 2/9/2001 +1100, Hunt Lee wrote:
>I passed my CCDA today.  Thanks so much for all your help and support.
>
>Does anyone know what is the difference between the CCNP Certification
>Library and CCNP Preparation Library?  Which is better to use for
>studying the CCNP exams?
>
>CCNP Certification Library:
>
>CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide
>CCNP Switching Exam Certification Guide
>CCNP Remote Access Exam Certification Guide
>CCNP Support Exam Certification Guide
>
>CCNP Preparation Library:
>
>Building Scalable Cisco Networks
>Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks
>Building Cisco Remote Access Networks
>Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting
>
>Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Regards,
>Hunt Lee
>IP Solution Anaylst
>Cable and Wireless (Sydney)
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Re: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread James Haynes

 Sorry to use this thread for this, but when I reply to the group my message
gets posted. When I try to post a new message it looks as though it was sent
but I don't see it on the board. I've tried this from work and from home a
neither seems to work. Any ideas?

Jim

""Hal White"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> That is one the one that I used.  It has been so long since I printed it
out
> that I forgot where it came from.  I am not sure if it is the same one as
> the one on certificationzone.com or not, but it is the one I used and it
is
> free.  I apologize if I gave the wrong site but it has been several months
> since I printed the document and it is a pdf so there is no URL on the
> bottom.
>
>
>
> >From: Yonkerbonk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Token Ring White Paper
> >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:45:15 -0800 (PST)
> >
> >I originall found it on ccprep.com and it's still
> >there. So check that out under Resources.
> >
> >Michael
> >
> >--- Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Several people have asked me where I got the Token
> > > Ring white paper that I
> > > used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper
> > > from
> > > www.certificationzone.com when it was free for
> > > download a few months ago.
> > > Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you
> > > have a membership you
> > > should definitely read this white paper.  If you are
> > > not a member then go to
> > > their site and decide if it is worth spending the
> > > money.  I was not a
> > > member, but others on the list have said it was a
> > > good investment.
> > > Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters
> > > about bridging and token
> > > ring that are also helpful although they do not
> > > explain it as well and as
> > > clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
> > >
> > > There is another document about Token Ring that is
> > > also helpful which can be
> > > found at
> > > http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> > >
> > > I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the
> > > CCIE Written.
> > >
> > > Hal
> > >
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Re: CCIE Recertification UPDATE (Networkers not needed anymore)

2001-02-08 Thread Charles Henson

Who said the managers would know?

Charles :)
"Yonkerbonk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> That means we have no more excuses to tell our
> managers we need to go to New Orleans or Vegas. :)
>
> Michael
>
> --- Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thanks to Mr. Zudal, CCIEs are no longered required
> > to attend Networkers to
> > recert for their CCIE status.
> >
> > -Brad Ellis
> > CCIE#5796
> > Cisco Hardware:  www.optsys.net
> >
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 12:19 PM
> > To: szudal@
> > Subject: CCIE Recertification Changes
> >
> >
> > Dear CCIE,
> >
> > In 1997, we introduced the CCIE recertification
> > program. At that time
> > there were two requirements: attend 5 CCIE-level
> > sessions at Networkers
> > and successfully complete a CCIE recertification
> > exam every two years.
> >
> > In response to your feedback, we have decided to
> > drop the Networkers
> > session requirement for recertification. We will
> > still have CCIE-level
> > sessions at selected Networkers, however effective
> > February 1, 2001,
> > attendance will no longer be mandatory for
> > recertification.
> >
> > All CCIE recertification deadlines will remain the
> > same. Effective
> > February 1, 2001, a CCIE will be required to
> > successfully complete one
> > CCIE recertification exam every two years in
> > accordance with your current
> > deadline.
> >
> > As part of this program update, we will no longer be
> > issuing
> > recertification certificates. Exam results are
> > downloaded automatically
> > into the CCIE database. When the CCIE team receives
> > your successful exam
> > result, an email notification will be sent to you
> > verifying your
> > recertification status.
> >
> > If you have any questions, please write to
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Good Luck
> > with your CCIE recertification!
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > CCIE Team
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: CID beta results

2001-02-08 Thread Michael Snyder

Any word on this?  I think I didn't pass, but I want to know for sure.


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> results this week.  Galton does not have them yet, but they should be up
by
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RE: Adding a Catalyst 6009 to existing network

2001-02-08 Thread Hornbeck, Timothy

You will have to set the VTP domain for the new switch to receive VLAN info.

set vtp domain "domain_name"

You should also set the mode : server, client, transparent

set vtp mode server
or
set vtp mode client
or
set vtp mode transparent

Make sure you set them to something other than server.  This will ensure
that the current VLAN info won't get over written by the new switch.

Good luck!

Timothy J. Hornbeck
Technical Analyst III
Infrastructure Implementation Services - Cleveland
National City Bank  

- The quality of a network is not based on complexity, but
  on its simplicity and adherence to solid fundamentals.


-Original Message-
From: Washington Rico [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 1:07 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Adding a Catalyst 6009 to existing network


  Could someone tell me the procedure for adding a Catalsyt 6009 to my 
existing network.  I understand that the connections must be trunked..I 
have no problem there.  But when I connect the two trunks from my core 
Catalsyt 6500 to the access switch Catalsyt 6009, will the 6009 start 
receiving vlan information automatically?  I do not want it to be a server 
of my current vtp domain.  How do ensure that this will not happen??

Regards,
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OT: VPN Client 2.5.2a

2001-02-08 Thread Kevin H

Has anyone found a solution to a problem regarding the vpn client not being
able to start the ipsec service.  We have a Cisco (altiga) 3015 running
2.5.2a clients.  Some clients install on 9x machines, others do not.  The
ones that fail always result in the "unable to start the ipsec service...".
Looking at ciscos website produces a solution of uninstalling rebooting,
rebooting again, and then reinstalling.  This has been attempted (per the
website instructions) and none of the machines are able to connect, all
result in the error of "unable to start ipsec service..."   Just hoping
someone else has run into this and may be able to shed some like.   Thanks
for any help!


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Re: Load Balancing Advice

2001-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>[MCI][Cat5K  w/RSM][UUNet]
>|
>   Internal LAN
>
>
>I have a client with two Internet routers running
>BGP multihomed to the ISPs, MCI and UUNET. Inbound
>traffic to their AS is pretty much balanced between
>MCI and UUNET. On the inside however, where MCI and
>UUNET connect into a Cat5K, the MCI is the HSRP active
>router and thus handles most of the outbound traffic.
>The client wants to load balance outbound traffic
>between the two.
>So when the client recently added an RSM to the
>Cat5K, I proposed to remove HSRP totally and run OSPF
>so that the RSM sees two equal-cost default routes to
>the routers.
>My question is, can you run default-information
>originate on two routers? And would that work in this
>scenario?


It's a good approach, at least for load-balancing your outgoing 
traffic. To have any chance of affecting incoming traffic, you need 
to play BGP games. Since you speak of their AS, I assume there is BGP.

Default-information originate works quite well.   If the Cat5K is the 
only layer 3 aware hop, the next caveat may not be that important, 
but if it feeds additional router hops, be sure that the default 
originated is of OSPF external type 1, not type 2, so internal 
reachability is considered in the interest of load balancing.

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CCIE Study Partner in S. E. Michigan

2001-02-08 Thread Paul M. Immo

I'm looking for study partner for CCIE written/lab in
South Eastern Michigan. (Must have CCNP/CCDP or equal,
I'm not looking for a student, I'm looking for a peer
so we can help each other)

Looking to take:

CCIE Written March 2001

CCIE LabAug 2001

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Show port results - Please identify

2001-02-08 Thread Roberts, Timothy

What does the speed of 400 represent in this example?  Is it the speed of
the route switch?  I have only seen 10 and 100.
Thanks

PortNameStatus  Vlanlevel   Duplex  Speed   Type
3/1 rsm2connected   trunk   normal  half400 route switch

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Re: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread Yonkerbonk

I originall found it on ccprep.com and it's still
there. So check that out under Resources.

Michael

--- Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Ring white paper that I 
> used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper
> from 
> www.certificationzone.com when it was free for
> download a few months ago.  
> Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you
> have a membership you 
> should definitely read this white paper.  If you are
> not a member then go to 
> their site and decide if it is worth spending the
> money.  I was not a 
> member, but others on the list have said it was a
> good investment.
> Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters
> about bridging and token 
> ring that are also helpful although they do not
> explain it as well and as 
> clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
> 
> There is another document about Token Ring that is
> also helpful which can be 
> found at
> http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> 
> I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the
> CCIE Written.
> 
> Hal
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S0/0 up up but can't ping!

2001-02-08 Thread West, Karl


Hey guys,

I have network running OSPF. I got a call from the our NOC that they are
unable to get to the site except from the directly
connected AGG router. 
I logged into the router(c2621)from the connected router and OSPF is working
ok, however, 
I am unable to ping the router from anywhere except from the directly
connected router.
>From my core router, when I do a "show ip route ospf X.X.X.X" the
router learn the route via OSPF coming from the correct edge router but I am
unable to ping it from the core.

I went into the edge and realize that I was unable to pin the S0/0 from
withen the router, even though the router's S0/0
 is UP UP and receiving OSPF routes. I cleared the OSPF process, Cleared the
redistribution, rebooted the router, etc

I am at a losswhy wouldn't I be able to ping the S0/0 if it's up up. I
can ping other int.

thanks
Karl

p.s. sorry for any spelling error...in a hurry!

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memory question

2001-02-08 Thread Jeff Walzer

Could someone please point me to a paper or web page that talks about how
memory is used on Cisco routers? Looking for an explanation on DRAM, Flash,
I/O memory, etc.

Thanks,
Jeff

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Re: Load Balancing Advice

2001-02-08 Thread Mike Fountain

Running OSPF should work fine.  That is how we do a majority of our load
balancing.

Only thing to make sure of is that if the circuit goes down your default
route goes away so you don't keep advertising it to the Cat5K.

- Original Message -
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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:43 PM
Subject: Load Balancing Advice


> [MCI][Cat5K  w/RSM][UUNet]
>|
>   Internal LAN
>
>
>I have a client with two Internet routers running
> BGP multihomed to the ISPs, MCI and UUNET. Inbound
> traffic to their AS is pretty much balanced between
> MCI and UUNET. On the inside however, where MCI and
> UUNET connect into a Cat5K, the MCI is the HSRP active
> router and thus handles most of the outbound traffic.
> The client wants to load balance outbound traffic
> between the two.
>So when the client recently added an RSM to the
> Cat5K, I proposed to remove HSRP totally and run OSPF
> so that the RSM sees two equal-cost default routes to
> the routers.
>My question is, can you run default-information
> originate on two routers? And would that work in this
> scenario?
>Thanks.
>
>Michael


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Re: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Believe me, I'm crying with you, not at you.  Somehow, perhaps in 
some old education slides, the idea that routers routinely retransmit 
has reached the level of an urban legend.  X.25 switches do transmit, 
but they are NOT routers.

Why do I get so emphatic about this?  Because as long as people leap 
into router based retransmission, they still haven't internalized 
some the fundamental design approaches of the TCP/IP protocol suite. 
 From Brian Carpenter's recent summary, RFC 2775:

>2.1 The end-to-end argument
>
>This is an argument first described in [Saltzer] and reviewed in [RFC
>1958], from which an extended quotation follows:
>
>   "The basic argument is that, as a first principle, certain
>   required end-to-end functions can only be performed correctly by
>   the end-systems themselves. A specific case is that any network,
>   however carefully designed, will be subject to failures of
>   transmission at some statistically determined rate. The best way
>   to cope with this is to accept it, and give responsibility for the
>   integrity of communication to the end systems. Another specific
>   case is end-to-end security.
>
>   "To quote from [Saltzer], 'The function in question can completely
>   and correctly be implemented only with the knowledge and help of
>   the application standing at the endpoints of the communication
>   system.  Therefore, providing that questioned function as a
>   feature of the communication system itself is not possible.
>   (Sometimes an incomplete version of the function provided by the
>   communication system may be useful as a performance enhancement.)'
>
>   "This principle has important consequences if we require
>   applications to survive partial network failures. An end-to-end
>   protocol design should not rely on the maintenance of state (i.e.
>   information about the state of the end-to-end communication)
>   inside the network. Such state should be maintained only in the
>   endpoints, in such a way that the state can only be destroyed when
>   the endpoint itself breaks (known as fate-sharing). An immediate
>   consequence of this is that datagrams are better than classical
>   virtual circuits.  The network's job is to transmit datagrams as
>   efficiently and flexibly as possible.  Everything else should be
>   done at the fringes."
>
>Thus this first aspect of end-to-endness limits what the network is
>expected to do, and clarifies what the end-system is expected to do.
>The end-to-end argument underlies the rest of this document.
>
>2.2 End-to-end performance
>
>Another aspect, in which the behaviour of the network and that of the
>end-systems interact in a complex way, is performance, in a
>generalised sense. This is not a primary focus of the present
>document, but it is mentioned briefly since it is often referred to
>when discussing end-to-end issues.
>
>Much work has been done over many years to improve and optimise the
>performance of TCP. Interestingly, this has led to comparatively
>minor changes to TCP itself; [STD 7] is still valid apart from minor
>additions [RFC 1323, RFC 2581, RFC 2018]. However a great deal of
>knowledge about good practice in TCP implementations has built up,
>and the queuing and discard mechanisms in routers have been fine-
>tuned to improve system performance in congested conditions.
>
>Unfortunately all this experience in TCP performance does not help
>with transport protocols that do not exhibit TCP-like response to
>congestion [RFC 2309]. Also, the requirement for specified quality of
>service for different applications and/or customers has led to much
>new development, especially the Integrated Services [RFC 1633, RFC
>2210] and Differentiated Services [RFC 2475] models. At the same time
>new transport-related protocols have appeared [RFC 1889, RFC 2326] or
>are in discussion in the IETF. It should also be noted that since the
>speed of light is not set by an IETF standard, our current notions of
>end-to-end performance will be largely irrelevant to interplanetary
>networking.


In other words, fundamental assumptions included:

IP is not an error-correcting service. It is, at best, error 
detecting, and most error detecting is the responsibilility of the 
data link service.
TCP was intended to be responsible for error correction.  UDP was 
intended to be error detecting only.

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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Jeremy Dumoit


Frame relay has no means for packet loss
detection, so a higher layer protocol (probably TCP)
would have to request retransmission of the data. 
This would occur between hosts rather than the router.
 X.25 and HDLC on the other hand are both reliable
protocols... they would recognize a packet loss and
retransmit from the routers.  However, PPP, like
frame, is just a datagram service... the hosts would
have to work it out at higher layers again.  


--- Leigh Anne Chisholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Would Router B retransmit if Frame Relay was used as
> the encapsulation
> protocol?  If so, how would Frame Relay detect the
> loss of the "packet"?
> What about X.25--would Router B retransmit?  How
> would X.25 detect the loss?
> What about HDLC?  PPP?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Brant Stevens
> Sent: February 8, 2001 9:10 AM
> To: Dennis Laganiere; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: not quite sure...
> 
> 
> The question is if Router B and Router C are
> routing, or if they are
> bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B
> would re-transmit a packet.
> If bridging is happening, then Host A would
> retransmit...
> 
> Hope this helps...
> 
> Brant I. Stevens
> Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> Thrupoint, Inc.
> 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> New York, NY. 10017
> 646-562-6540
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Dennis Laganiere
> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: not quite sure...
> 
> 
> I've tried to diagram this question to make it
> clear...
> 
> Host A is sending to Host D...
> 
> A line error occurs on the serial link between
> Router-B and Router-C while
> passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B
> 
> Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER
> CHOST D
> Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1)
> (C2) (D1)
> 
> What device would rebroadcast?
> 
> I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an
> error had occured, and
> would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but
> I've been through all my
> books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my
> conclusion...
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
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2620 and load balancing

2001-02-08 Thread Moahzam Durrani

If I have two T1'S from different ISP'S and connect them to my 2620, How do
I load balance the traffic.Am I thinking of implementing BGP?. At the moment
I am just using 1 ISP and keeping the other in standby.I would like to use
both together and load balance my traffic. We tried it with both TI'S
wortking to gether but packets were being loss, latency decreasing and all
sorts of other funky things such as some users could get to some sites and
others couldnt. Also will it make a differnce if one ISP requires us to use
NAT .

Mo Durrani
IS&T 
WYSE\EDS
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PIX 520 running 4.4(6)

2001-02-08 Thread Frank Kim

Hi guys,
I'm running a pix 520 with a non-stateful failover.  The image is
4.4(6).  I've been receiving a lot of ftp disconnect/failures from the
ftp-server that are sitting in the dmz, behind the pix520.  Has anyone
experienced ftp problems on pix520 running 4.4(6)?  Should I consider
upgrading to 5.1?  I have 2megs of flash and 32megs of ram.  Any input is
appreciated.

-Frank


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RE: Show port results - Please identify

2001-02-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

Cisco LAN Switching page 463
400 is the combined speed of the two DMA connections between the RSM and the
Cat5K backplane.

> -Original Message-
> From: Roberts, Timothy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:46 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Show port results - Please identify
> 
> 
> What does the speed of 400 represent in this example?  Is it 
> the speed of
> the route switch?  I have only seen 10 and 100.
> Thanks
> 
> Port  NameStatus  Vlanlevel   Duplex  Speed   Type
> 3/1   rsm2connected   trunk   normal  half400 
> route switch
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RE: passed the CCNP routing!

2001-02-08 Thread Fred Danson

Thank you Ole,

I've been taking a CCNP class at ASM Educational Center in College Park, MD 
under a CCIE instructor. The book that they gave us for the Routing segment 
wasn't too good (the Syngress one, it has tons of errors in it), but the 
instructor is awesome. And in response to the IS-IS question-- there weren't 
any question about that on the exam.




>From: Ole Drews Jensen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: 'Fred Danson' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: passed the CCNP routing!
>Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:10:23 -0600
>
>Congratulations,
>
>Any recommended reading : books, chapters?
>
>Did you have any ISIS related questions?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Ole
>
>
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>I just passed the CCNP routing exam with a score of 908! Thank you everyone
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RE: Cisco Documentation CD

2001-02-08 Thread Bolton, Travis

but maybe that's changed recently.

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You can order them direct from Cisco... or you can find them on ebay pretty
cheap.

-- Kevin


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>
> Hi All,
>
> I just wonder how I can order a Cisco documentation CD. Mine is November,
> 1999 version and does not work on win2k.
>
>
> TIA
>
> Wonkyu Lee
>
>
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RE: Cisco Lab Cables

2001-02-08 Thread Bolton, Travis

Here is the site that I found that is cheap.
http://www.symmic.com/computer/


-Original Message-
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Try contacting Robert Lowery ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

I believe his prices are:

3ft for 29$ plus 5 shipping...6ft 35 ea...8ft...37$ each

Mark

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Also www.LoDanWest.com and pacific cable. There are others.

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>
>
> www.stonewallcable.com is a good place to get them.  So far,
> I haven't found
> any place that has them cheaper.  If anyone knows of a place,
> please let us
> know.
>
> >
> >  Where is the best place to purchase cables for back to back
> configurations
> >  etc for cisco equipment? I am working on building a lab
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Re: 7206 VXR config

2001-02-08 Thread Jack Yu

Chuck is right, I remember it is for something like, ISL switching of Token
Ring, if memory servers.
It works poorly as  a pure ethernet card, but never tried it myself.

Jack


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> The 2 Port FE LAN adapter for the 7206 (vip based module) is not as you
> might expect. It turns out
> cisco will tell you NOT to use it for regular ethernet 100 Mb traffic.
Seems
> that board is intended for
> some sort of other application and works poorly as a regular ethernet I/O.
> Has bugs. I forget what
> the actual reason was (from cisco) but that cards intent is not for normal
> traffic.
>
> -Chuck
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Has anyone ever used the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller on a 7206 to
> > actually pass traffic?
> > I'm worried that because it sits on a card that has other functions that
> > I won't get the needed performance from that port.  Or that I won't be
> > able to use that port for for passing in-band traffic at all.
> >
> > So my decision is wavering between getting a 2-port FE LAN adapter or a
> > 1-port FE LAN adapter and using the RJ-45 port on the I/O controller.
> >
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RE: 2620 and load balancing

2001-02-08 Thread West, Karl

Mo,

You don't need BGP if all you want to do is load balance your 2 links. Plus
I am not sure how much memory you would need
for the 2620 or even if it can handle it.(that's if your taken full routing
table) YIKES!!

In any case all you need to do is have 2 default static route to your
providers.
example

ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 1.1.1.1(MCI)
ip route 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 2.2.2.1(Sprint)

Karl

why you were getting packet loss could be cause by something else. If you
really want to do BGP get a 3640 instead.


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 5:17 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: 2620 and load balancing


If I have two T1'S from different ISP'S and connect them to my 2620, How do
I load balance the traffic.Am I thinking of implementing BGP?. At the moment
I am just using 1 ISP and keeping the other in standby.I would like to use
both together and load balance my traffic. We tried it with both TI'S
wortking to gether but packets were being loss, latency decreasing and all
sorts of other funky things such as some users could get to some sites and
others couldnt. Also will it make a differnce if one ISP requires us to use
NAT .

Mo Durrani
IS&T 
WYSE\EDS
phone:408-473 1246
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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appropriate new terminology (was Re: T1 Link)

2001-02-08 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>At 11:58 PM 2/7/01, Santosh Koshy wrote:
>>Thanks priscilla, that helped tremendously...
>>If that is the case... then what is the most common L2 Encapsulation used
>>when usually setting up a T1 link...(point to point)
>>Is it safe to assume HDLC as that is the default encap on the cisco routers
>
>HDLC is common for point-to-point links, but Cisco's HDLC is non-standard,
>so if you were connecting to a non-Cisco router you would probably use PPP.
>
>In many parts of the world, Frame Relay is the most common WAN
encapsulation, but it sounded like you were asking about point-to-poin
  ^
My eyes first interpreted this as a point-to-pain circuit.  I then 
realized I've worked with quite a few of those.

>circuits, so that might not be relevant.


>
>Priscilla
>
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Re: 2620 and load balancing

2001-02-08 Thread John Neiberger

True load balancing in this situation is actually pretty difficult to achieve, 
especially if you're trying to balance incoming traffic.

Is this connection for incoming access to your services, or is it internet access for 
internal users?

Since you're not running BGP, and therefore not advertising your own prefix, and also 
since the other ISP connection is not active, I'm going to assume that this is for 
outgoing access.

In this case, the bulk of your traffic is incoming web response traffic.  You could 
try using equal weight static routes, one for each connection.  That would probably 
accomplish your objective without the added hassle of running BGP.

If you have internal services that you want to advertise to the rest of the world, 
then you most likely need to use BGP.  But then you need to get at least a /24 
assigned from one of your ISPs and this isn't always an easy task.  Then, you have to 
apply for your own autonomous system number.  Then you should figure out RPSL and 
register your system and prefix information in the Internet Routing Registry.

And that's just for starters!  :-)  I would seriously consider just using static 
routes, if possible.

Oh, another option is this: check out the Fatpipe Xtreme at www.fatpipeinc.com.  It's 
a piece of hardware designed to do exactly what you're thinking about doing, without 
having to make any extra router configuration.  I don't know much more than that, but 
we have one of their reps coming to meet with us next week.  If the product turns out 
to be really cool, I'll post a report of the meeting.

HTH,
John

> 
> If I have two T1'S from different ISP'S and connect them to my 2620, How do
> I load balance the traffic.Am I thinking of implementing BGP?. At the moment
> I am just using 1 ISP and keeping the other in standby.I would like to use
> both together and load balance my traffic. We tried it with both TI'S
> wortking to gether but packets were being loss, latency decreasing and all
> sorts of other funky things such as some users could get to some sites and
> others couldnt. Also will it make a differnce if one ISP requires us to use
> NAT .
> 
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RE: 2620 and load balancing

2001-02-08 Thread Moahzam Durrani

well most of the traffic is out going for internet use. We get to other
corporate sites by frame relay  on a seperate router. However we will be
shortly be introducing OUTLOOK WEB access on one of our DMZ's so users could
access their corporate mail through the internet, Pix will be doing all the
filtering and security.
Thanks.. 
Mo Durrani
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-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: 2620 and load balancing


True load balancing in this situation is actually pretty difficult to
achieve, especially if you're trying to balance incoming traffic.

Is this connection for incoming access to your services, or is it internet
access for internal users?

Since you're not running BGP, and therefore not advertising your own prefix,
and also since the other ISP connection is not active, I'm going to assume
that this is for outgoing access.

In this case, the bulk of your traffic is incoming web response traffic.
You could try using equal weight static routes, one for each connection.
That would probably accomplish your objective without the added hassle of
running BGP.

If you have internal services that you want to advertise to the rest of the
world, then you most likely need to use BGP.  But then you need to get at
least a /24 assigned from one of your ISPs and this isn't always an easy
task.  Then, you have to apply for your own autonomous system number.  Then
you should figure out RPSL and register your system and prefix information
in the Internet Routing Registry.

And that's just for starters!  :-)  I would seriously consider just using
static routes, if possible.

Oh, another option is this: check out the Fatpipe Xtreme at
www.fatpipeinc.com.  It's a piece of hardware designed to do exactly what
you're thinking about doing, without having to make any extra router
configuration.  I don't know much more than that, but we have one of their
reps coming to meet with us next week.  If the product turns out to be
really cool, I'll post a report of the meeting.

HTH,
John

> 
> If I have two T1'S from different ISP'S and connect them to my 2620, How
do
> I load balance the traffic.Am I thinking of implementing BGP?. At the
moment
> I am just using 1 ISP and keeping the other in standby.I would like to use
> both together and load balance my traffic. We tried it with both TI'S
> wortking to gether but packets were being loss, latency decreasing and all
> sorts of other funky things such as some users could get to some sites and
> others couldnt. Also will it make a differnce if one ISP requires us to
use
> NAT .
> 
> Mo Durrani
> IS&T 
> WYSE\EDS
> phone:408-473 1246
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 
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Re: T1 Link

2001-02-08 Thread Tom Lisa

Priscilla,

In the Cisco Networking Academy (Sem4) curriculum, significantly more time is spent on
PPP operation & configuration than Cisco's HDLC.  One might get the impression from 
this
that Cisco is pushing the use of PPP (with its better security features) over its own
HDLC even in an all Cisco environment.

Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy


Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

> At 11:58 PM 2/7/01, Santosh Koshy wrote:
> >Thanks priscilla, that helped tremendously...
> >If that is the case... then what is the most common L2 Encapsulation used
> >when usually setting up a T1 link...(point to point)
> >Is it safe to assume HDLC as that is the default encap on the cisco routers
>
> HDLC is common for point-to-point links, but Cisco's HDLC is non-standard,
> so if you were connecting to a non-Cisco router you would probably use PPP.
>
> In many parts of the world, Frame Relay is the most common WAN
> encapsulation, but it sounded like you were asking about point-to-poin
> circuits, so that might not be relevant.
>
> Priscilla
>
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
> >Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:50 PM
> >Subject: Re: T1 Link
> >
> >
> > > Seeing that nobody had really addressed your question yet, I decided to
> > > take a stab at it.
> > >
> > > T1 is a high-speed digital carrier facility developed by AT&T in the 1950s
> > > to support long-haul pulse-code modulation (PCM) voice transmission. T1
> > > provides digital voice circuits or "channels." There are 24 channels per
> > > each T1 line or "trunk."
> > >
> > > AT&T describes their Digital Carrier System as a "two-point, dedicated,
> > > high capacity, digital service provided on terrestrial digital facilities
> > > capable of transmitting 1.544 Mbps. The interface to the customer can be
> > > either a T1 carrier or a higher order multiplexed facility."
> > >
> > > So, what do you think? To send data on this do we need to encapsulate it?
> > > You betcha, as Leo on TechTalk would say. That's why we have
> >"encapsulation
> > > frame-relay" and "encapsulation ppp," among others.
> > >
> > > Hope that helps a bit.
> > >
> > > Priscilla
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >On Wednesday, February 07, 2001 at 06:36:34 PM, Santosh Koshy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Pardon my ignorance here
> > > > > Is there such a thing as just a "T1 Link"...
> > > > >
> > > > > of what I understand T1 / Frac T1 resides in the physical layer
> >Dont u
> > > > > need something at the Data Link Layer (such as Frame Relay) before you
> >can
> > > > > enable IP or IPX at layer 3
> > > > >
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OSPF authentication

2001-02-08 Thread Hubert Pun

I have the two statements on my routers:
 ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 cisco
 area 0 authentication message-digest
It works on routers A and B, but does not work on routers C, D.

So I wonder that anyone have known that there is some problem with some
of the software that does not support OSPF authentication.

both routers C and D are Cisco 2500 with version 11.3

Thanks
Hubert


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Re: Load Balancing Advice

2001-02-08 Thread Yonkerbonk

There is BGP running on the Internet routers and they
have their own AS.
So now that I know default-information originate is
the way to go, can it be put on two routers on the
same segment at the same time? And also, since the
command requires the router to have a default route
itself, should I put in a static route pointing
towards the ISP peer? Would this be counter-productive
since I'm taking in so many BGP routes already? I
don't want to use the 'always' parameter because what
if my link goes down. I don't want to rely on icmp
redirect to point back to the other Internet router.
Thanks for your advice.

Michael

--- "Howard C. Berkowitz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >[MCI][Cat5K  w/RSM][UUNet]
> >|
> >   Internal LAN
> >
> >
> >I have a client with two Internet routers
> running
> >BGP multihomed to the ISPs, MCI and UUNET. Inbound
> >traffic to their AS is pretty much balanced between
> >MCI and UUNET. On the inside however, where MCI and
> >UUNET connect into a Cat5K, the MCI is the HSRP
> active
> >router and thus handles most of the outbound
> traffic.
> >The client wants to load balance outbound traffic
> >between the two.
> >So when the client recently added an RSM to the
> >Cat5K, I proposed to remove HSRP totally and run
> OSPF
> >so that the RSM sees two equal-cost default routes
> to
> >the routers.
> >My question is, can you run default-information
> >originate on two routers? And would that work in
> this
> >scenario?
> 
> 
> It's a good approach, at least for load-balancing
> your outgoing 
> traffic. To have any chance of affecting incoming
> traffic, you need 
> to play BGP games. Since you speak of their AS, I
> assume there is BGP.
> 
> Default-information originate works quite well.   If
> the Cat5K is the 
> only layer 3 aware hop, the next caveat may not be
> that important, 
> but if it feeds additional router hops, be sure that
> the default 
> originated is of OSPF external type 1, not type 2,
> so internal 
> reachability is considered in the interest of load
> balancing.
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ISP Opinions needed

2001-02-08 Thread John Neiberger

We are currently multihomed to Sprint and Verio, and I'm not very happy with Verio's 
stability so far.  When their contract comes up, we're considering dropping them and 
moving to a different provider.  I've done some preliminary research on UUNet, Global 
Crossing, AT&T, and Cable & Wireless.  I've dropped UUNet from consideration because 
their T-1 prices are not competitive at all.

At this time, my preference order is C&W, GC, and then AT&T.  Do any of you have any 
experience with these companies that you'd like to share?

Stability and customer service are *BIG* issues with us, and so far Verio doesn't rank 
very high with us in either category.  I remember seeing a post a while back that said 
"Verio=downtime".  Well, we haven't too much of a problem with local downtime, but 
there have been some days where our prefix was unreachable the entire day from 
portions of Verio's network.  Needless to say, that is unacceptable performance.

Any thoughts or opinions on this topic would be greatly appreciated!

Regards,
John


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RE: HSRP on my WKS subnet

2001-02-08 Thread Yonkerbonk

Well, the 6509s will past broadcasts and multicasts
through so your hosts off each VLAN will see that.
The only thing that I can think of (and I have no idea
if it would work) is to run CGMP on the switch to
denote which ports should and should not get the
multicast traffic.

Michael

--- Stephen Skinner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> is there a way of blocking them because i
> thought that as long as the 
> clients can link to the virtual addressthen
> there would be no need for 
> the hsrp hello (which are just for the cat`s and
> no-one else needs to know 
> about them ) to be seen by all workstations...surely
> this is shoving 
> un-neccasery packetsa into my Vlan...
> 
> or am i completely off the mark
> 
> many thanks
> 
> steve
> 
> 
> >From: "Brant Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Brant Stevens" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Stephen Skinner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: RE: HSRP on my WKS subnet
> >Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:02:46 -0500
> >
> >Yes, you should be seeing them...  That is proper
> multicast behavior, and
> >these packets would be seen for any VLAN that is
> running HSRP...
> >
> >Brant I. Stevens
> >Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> >Thrupoint, Inc.
> >545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> >New York, NY. 10017
> >646-562-6540
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> >Stephen Skinner
> >Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 8:00 AM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: HSRP on my WKS subnet
> >
> >
> >Guys,
> >
> >i have a slight problem ... i have 2 6509`s running
> HSRP on my comms vlan 4
> >these 65`s do all routing between Vlan`s
> >
> >i have sniffer pro on my local workstation , vlan 5
> >
> >i am seeing multicast traffic from 224.0.0.2 which
> has HSRP packet headers
> >(that are hello`s)every 3 seconds
> >Should i be seeing these  i don`t think i
> should
> >i think the only Vlan that these should be seen on
> is the comms vlan 4
> >? answers please..
> >
> >also if i am right how can i stop the HSRP hello
> bieng sent to all the 
> >other
> >vlan`s
> >
> >many thanks in advance
> >
> >steve
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Question for isdn/telco gods...

2001-02-08 Thread Dan West

Another question for current (or former) telco switch
techs...

We are having issues again trying to issue the "isdn
service ... dsl 0 state 1" command to put all the
b-channels in a single PRI into 'maintenance' state.
Telco claims that we are sending 'ni-2' protocol
service commands. We don't even have the option of
running 'ni-2' as the switch protocol.

Is it really possible telco is seeing ni-2 statements
coming from our NAS when we don't even have that
protocol option? Our main options for the NAS (in the
US) are national, 5ess-custom or dms-100. Is telco
misinterpreting something we are sending? OR Is our
NAS sending ambiguous information to the telco LT
switch??  Thanks!

NAS = AS5800, running 12.0.5(?) s/thing like that...


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Re: LLC type 1

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:09 AM 2/8/01, Jeremy Dumoit wrote:

>Hi Priscilla,
>
>I like your book very much!!

Thanks.

>  Actually, I was
>trying to figure out if any LAN protocols use it.  For
>instance 802.3 frames include an 802.2 type 2 header

If the upper layer is NetBEUI or SNA, then 802.3 frames include an 802.2 
type 2 header. Type 2 is connection-oriented. It includes sequence numbers, 
flow control, etc. It uses a four-byte header. (The control field is two 
bytes.)

When IP, IPX, or AppleTalk run on top of 802.3, they use the connectionless 
type 1 802.2. It uses a three-byte header.

IP usually uses Ethernet V2, actually.

PPP is similar to connectionless type 1 802.2, as you say.

Priscilla

>before the data field.  I guess PPP uses this, or some
>for of type 1 LLC.
>
>Thanks!
>
>Jeremy
>--- Priscilla Oppenheimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > You are applying the OSI layering model upside down
> > with this question. You
> > should be asking if there is any network-layer
> > protocol that uses the LLC 1
> > service at the data-link layer. And the answer is
> > yes. IP, Novell,
> > AppleTalk, etc. use LLC 1 if they use LLC at all.
> > (They can all use
> > Ethernet V2; see the discussion on 802.3 for more
> > info on that!)
> >
> > NetBEUI uses LLC type 2. SNA uses LLC type 2.
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 09:17 AM 2/8/01, Jeremy Dumoit wrote:
> > >Anyone know if there's a LAN type out there
> > that
> > >uses LLC type 1 headers?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > JD
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RE: not quite sure...

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:19 AM 2/8/01, Jeremy Dumoit wrote:


>I actually think it depends on what encapsulation
>is running accross the serial link.  If you're using
>HDLC then it's a connection oriented, reliable

Cisco's HDLC is non-standard and is not connection-oriented. The router 
would not retransmit. The router also won't retransmit if it's PPP, Frame 
Relay, Ethernet, etc. etc etc. etc.

>protocol... meaning if a packet is lost in transit
>accross the serial link, the router will knw it when
>it receives a response from the destination router.
>It'll then resend the frame.  If you're using a
>datagram protocol, like ppp, however, it will rely on
>the upper layer protocols to detect missing data..
>
>
>--- Brant Stevens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > The question is if Router B and Router C are
> > routing, or if they are
> > bridging...  If they are routing, then Router B
> > would re-transmit a packet.
> > If bridging is happening, then Host A would
> > retransmit...
> >
> > Hope this helps...
> >
> > Brant I. Stevens
> > Internetwork Solutions Engineer
> > Thrupoint, Inc.
> > 545 Fifth Avenue, 14th Floor
> > New York, NY. 10017
> > 646-562-6540
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Dennis Laganiere
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2001 11:32 PM
> > To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> > Subject: not quite sure...
> >
> >
> > I've tried to diagram this question to make it
> > clear...
> >
> > Host A is sending to Host D...
> >
> > A line error occurs on the serial link between
> > Router-B and Router-C while
> > passing a packet from Host-A to Host-B
> >
> > Devices -   Host A-ROUTER B-ROUTER
> > CHOST D
> > Interfaces -  (A1)(B1)  (B2)(C1)
> > (C2) (D1)
> >
> > What device would rebroadcast?
> >
> > I think that router-B (port B2) would realize an
> > error had occured, and
> > would resend, so the answer should be port B2, but
> > I've been through all my
> > books and can't find anything to confirm or deny my
> > conclusion...
> >
> > Any thoughts?
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Re: 2620 and load balancing

2001-02-08 Thread Kenneth

if you're doing loadbalancing / redundancy for incoming traffic then you're
going to have to go with BGP.

If incoming redundancy is not important, you can use two static routes  as
Karl has mentioned.

Moahzam Durrani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
ED49D16A9BE4D41189C000104B2E399864BC1F@sj-exchange">news:ED49D16A9BE4D41189C000104B2E399864BC1F@sj-exchange...
> well most of the traffic is out going for internet use. We get to other
> corporate sites by frame relay  on a seperate router. However we will be
> shortly be introducing OUTLOOK WEB access on one of our DMZ's so users
could
> access their corporate mail through the internet, Pix will be doing all
the
> filtering and security.
> Thanks..
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> IS&T
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> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, February 08, 2001 3:00 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: 2620 and load balancing
>
>
> True load balancing in this situation is actually pretty difficult to
> achieve, especially if you're trying to balance incoming traffic.
>
> Is this connection for incoming access to your services, or is it internet
> access for internal users?
>
> Since you're not running BGP, and therefore not advertising your own
prefix,
> and also since the other ISP connection is not active, I'm going to assume
> that this is for outgoing access.
>
> In this case, the bulk of your traffic is incoming web response traffic.
> You could try using equal weight static routes, one for each connection.
> That would probably accomplish your objective without the added hassle of
> running BGP.
>
> If you have internal services that you want to advertise to the rest of
the
> world, then you most likely need to use BGP.  But then you need to get at
> least a /24 assigned from one of your ISPs and this isn't always an easy
> task.  Then, you have to apply for your own autonomous system number.
Then
> you should figure out RPSL and register your system and prefix information
> in the Internet Routing Registry.
>
> And that's just for starters!  :-)  I would seriously consider just using
> static routes, if possible.
>
> Oh, another option is this: check out the Fatpipe Xtreme at
> www.fatpipeinc.com.  It's a piece of hardware designed to do exactly what
> you're thinking about doing, without having to make any extra router
> configuration.  I don't know much more than that, but we have one of their
> reps coming to meet with us next week.  If the product turns out to be
> really cool, I'll post a report of the meeting.
>
> HTH,
> John
>
> >
> > If I have two T1'S from different ISP'S and connect them to my 2620, How
> do
> > I load balance the traffic.Am I thinking of implementing BGP?. At the
> moment
> > I am just using 1 ISP and keeping the other in standby.I would like to
use
> > both together and load balance my traffic. We tried it with both TI'S
> > wortking to gether but packets were being loss, latency decreasing and
all
> > sorts of other funky things such as some users could get to some sites
and
> > others couldnt. Also will it make a differnce if one ISP requires us to
> use
> > NAT .
> >
> > Mo Durrani
> > IS&T
> > WYSE\EDS
> > phone:408-473 1246
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Re: OSPF authentication

2001-02-08 Thread Kenneth

Posting your config would be a lot of help

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> I have the two statements on my routers:
>  ip ospf message-digest-key 1 md5 cisco
>  area 0 authentication message-digest
> It works on routers A and B, but does not work on routers C, D.
>
> So I wonder that anyone have known that there is some problem with some
> of the software that does not support OSPF authentication.
>
> both routers C and D are Cisco 2500 with version 11.3
>
> Thanks
> Hubert
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RE: Token Ring White Paper

2001-02-08 Thread SAM Meng Wai

Here is the sites.

http://www.ccprep.com/resources/news/archives/Token_Ring2.pdf

Rgds,
Sam

> -Original Message-
> From: Yonkerbonk [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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> To:   Hal White; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Re: Token Ring White Paper
> 
> I originall found it on ccprep.com and it's still
> there. So check that out under Resources.
> 
> Michael
> 
> --- Hal White <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Several people have asked me where I got the Token
> > Ring white paper that I 
> > used to study for the CCIE written.  I got the paper
> > from 
> > www.certificationzone.com when it was free for
> > download a few months ago.  
> > Unfortunately, it is not free this month.  If you
> > have a membership you 
> > should definitely read this white paper.  If you are
> > not a member then go to 
> > their site and decide if it is worth spending the
> > money.  I was not a 
> > member, but others on the list have said it was a
> > good investment.
> > Caslow's book and the exam cram both have chapters
> > about bridging and token 
> > ring that are also helpful although they do not
> > explain it as well and as 
> > clearly as the white paper on certification zone.
> > 
> > There is another document about Token Ring that is
> > also helpful which can be 
> > found at
> > http://www.groupstudy.com/notes/notepages/rif2.html
> > 
> > I hope this helps everyone who is preparing for the
> > CCIE Written.
> > 
> > Hal
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Re: T1 Link

2001-02-08 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 03:09 PM 2/8/01, Tom Lisa wrote:
>Priscilla,
>
>In the Cisco Networking Academy (Sem4) curriculum, significantly more time 
>is spent on
>PPP operation & configuration than Cisco's HDLC.

That's just because you can say something useful about PPP. It's great for 
instructors. They can show off how much they have learned about PAP and 
CHAP. &;-)

What can you say about Cisco HDLC? Not much, though here are some comments 
on Cisco HDLC, since it is being talked about so much today:

cisco's default encapsulation on synchronous serial lines uses HDLC framing,
with packet contents defined as follows:

The first ("address") octet is set to 0x0F for unicast packets and 0x8F
for broadcast packets. Broadcast just means that the higher-level protocol
thought this was a broadcast packet; cisco doesn't support multidrop
HDLC at this time.

The second ("control") octet is always 0.

The next two octets are a 16-bit protocol code, sent most-significant-first.
These codes are usually Ethernet type codes. cisco has added some codes to
support packet types that don't appear on Ethernets. The current list of codes
is as follows:

 TYPE_PUP0x0200  PUP
 TYPE_XNS0x0600  XNS
 TYPE_IP10MB 0x0800  IP
 TYPE_CHAOS  0x0804  Chaos
 TYPE_IEEE_SPANNING  0x4242  DSAP/SSAP for IEEE bridge spanning 
prot.
 TYPE_DECNET 0x6003  DECnet phase IV
 TYPE_BRIDGE 0x6558  Bridged Ethernet/802.3 packet
 TYPE_APOLLO 0x8019  Apollo domain
 TYPE_REVERSE_ARP0x8035  cisco SLARP (not real reverse ARP!)
 TYPE_DEC_SPANNING   0x8038  DEC bridge spanning tree protocol
 TYPE_ETHERTALK  0x809b  Apple EtherTalk
 TYPE_AARP   0x80f3  Appletalk ARP
 TYPE_NOVELL10x8137  Novell IPX
 TYPE_CLNS   0xFEFE  ISO CLNP/ISO ES-IS DSAP/SSAP

This list is shared between serial and Ethernet encapsulations. Not all
these codes will necessarily appear on serial lines. This list will probably
be extended as cisco adds support for more protocols.

Bytes after this are higher-level protocol data. These normally look the
same as they'd look on Ethernet. Bridging packets include Ethernet/802.3
MAC headers; no other packets do.

Packets with type 8035 (reverse ARP) don't contain reverse ARP data as
they would on an Ethernet. Instead, they carry a protocol cisco refers to
as SLARP. SLARP has two functions: dynamic IP address determination and
serial line keepalive.

The serial line model supported by SLARP assumes that each serial line is
a separate IP subnet, and that one end of the line is host number 1, while
the other end is host number 2. The SLARP address resolution protocol allows
system A to request that system B tell system A system B's IP address,
along with the IP netmask to be used on the network. It does this by sending
a SLARP address resolution request packet, to which system B responds with a
SLARP address resolution reply packet. System A then attempts to determine its
own IP address based on the address of system B. If the host portion of system
B's address is 1, system A will use 2 for the host portion of its own IP
address. Conversely, if system B's IP host number is 2, system A will use IP
host number 1. If system B replies with any IP host number other than 1 or 2,
system A assumes that system B is unable to provide it with an address via
SLARP.

For the SLARP keepalive protocol, each system sends the other a keepalive
packet at a user-configurable interval. The default interval is 10 seconds.
Both systems must use the same interval to ensure reliable operation.
Each system assigns sequence numbers to the keepalive packets it sends,
starting with zero, independent of the other system. These sequence numbers
are included in the keepalive packets sent to the other system. Also included
in each keepalive packet is the sequence number of the last keepalive packet
_received_ from the other system, as assigned by the other system. This number
is called the returned sequence number. Each system keeps track of the last
returned sequence number it has received. Immediately before sending a 
keepalive
packet, it compares the sequence number of the packet it is about to send with
the returned sequence number in the last keepalive packet it has received.
If the two differ by 3 or more, it considers the line to have failed, and
will route no further higher-level data across it until an acceptable keepalive
response is received.

There is interaction between the SLARP address resolution protocol and the
SLARP keepalive protocol. When one end of a serial line receives a SLARP
address resolution request packet, it assumes that the other end has restarted
its serial interface and reset its keepalive sequence numbers. In addition
to responding to the address resolution request, it will act as if the
other end had sent 

RE: Cisco Documentation CD

2001-02-08 Thread Kevin Welch

This has been discussed on the list before...  Any CD after August of 2000
is supposed to work fine with Win2k.  I have a December 2000 cd and it works
fine under win2k.

-- Kevin

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 Does the newer version of the CD work with win2k?  I didn't think it did
but maybe that's changed recently.

-Original Message-
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You can order them direct from Cisco... or you can find them on ebay pretty
cheap.

-- Kevin


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Subject: Cisco Documentation CD


>
> Hi All,
>
> I just wonder how I can order a Cisco documentation CD. Mine is November,
> 1999 version and does not work on win2k.
>
>
> TIA
>
> Wonkyu Lee
>
>
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Re: Cisco CCNP books question

2001-02-08 Thread James Garner

First of all CONGRATULATIONS

I'm currently studying for the CCDA.
What resources did you use to study?
I have these:
 Designing Cisco Networks - Teare
 CCDA Exam Certification Guide - Bruno
 Top-Down Network Design - Oppenheimer
 Cisco Certified Design Associate - Lammle
 A bunch of "study guides" I gathered from the net.
Which I think is to much information.

Were the case studys on the CCDA test similar to any that you had seen
before?

After the CCDA, I plan to pursue the CCNP, CCDP.
I passed the switching test using the BCMSN from the CCNP Prep Library (Very
Good)
I would recommend buying the Library (4 vol set)...
Check www.addall.com for best prices on the web:
http://www.addall.com/New/compare.cgi?dispCurr=USD&id=3600&isbn=1587050137&l
ocation=1&thetime=20010208160156&state=VA

Good luck!
Thanks
-Jay.

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> I passed my CCDA today. Thanks so much for all your help and support.
>
> Does anyone know what is the difference between the CCNP Certification
> Library and CCNP Preparation Library? Which is better to use for
> studying the CCNP exams?
>
> CCNP Certification Library:
>
> CCNP Routing Exam Certification Guide
> CCNP Switching Exam Certification Guide
> CCNP Remote Access Exam Certification Guide
> CCNP Support Exam Certification Guide
>
> CCNP Preparation Library:
>
> Building Scalable Cisco Networks
> Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks
> Building Cisco Remote Access Networks
> Cisco Internetwork Troubleshooting
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Regards,
> Hunt Lee
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Re: Cisco CCNP books question

2001-02-08 Thread James Garner

Also, Make sure that you get the 2nd edition (Oct 2000)

I was looking the other day and ecampus had the best price, but they are
currently out of stock.
Keep checking there or the www.addall.com site.

Cheers,
Jay


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passed CCIE written with a little extra stress

2001-02-08 Thread Joe Johonness

I passed the CCIE written today.  The test crashed right in the middle =
of the exam and they had to have a new one downloaded. I had to start =
all over that was just great.  I hope it does not happen to anybody =
else.  I just found a good cram for the test after I took it =
unfortunately.  Here it is hope it helps somebody.

http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/cramsession/cisco/ccie_written/

Joe Johonness

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Official BSCN couser books anyone?

2001-02-08 Thread Jeff Duchin

Looking to trade for the BCRAN.

I still have access to some cool online stuff for BSCN too.

E-mail me for more info.

Cheers,
Jeff


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Re: Subject: Sniffer Program

2001-02-08 Thread Paul Werner


>Can someone recommend  a good WindowsME 
sniffer? 

Well, I am not sure if it works on Windows ME 
boxes, but there is a protocol analyzer that will 
work on most other Winthings (95,98, NT4, etc.)  
It is fairly decent given the cost(free).  My 
understanding is that it comes from a Win32 
ported version of TCPdump.  There is only one 
downside that I am aware of.  All of the help 
files are in Italian.  If you can figure out how 
to get it all loaded, its fairly decent.

I am trying to work on the documentation side of 
things by trying to get a deal struck between my 
wife and the guy that wrote the code for the 
program as part of his doctoral thesis.  He is in 
no hurry to get everything translated into 
English.  OTOH, if I give the right type of 
gratuity to my wife :-), she might be willing to 
do it herself (I hope).  We'll see how (and if) 
it works out.

Here it is:

http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/windump/

http://netgroup-serv.polito.it/analyzer/


HTH,

Paul Werner




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