RE: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]

2001-08-08 Thread Glenn Johnson

conduit permit icmp any any

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]


I have spent the all day on the problem below and I still can't see what I
did wrong.

Can you help?

The PC can ping the inside ip address of the firewall
The Firewall can ping the default-gateway and anything on the Internet
But I cannot get the PC to ping the outside IP address of the firewall
(208.136.247.214)
or anything outside like (206.26.90.8).


|PC|(1)--(2)|PIX|(3)-(4)--DSL MODEM

PC (1): ip address 10.1.1.12
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
  default gateway: 10.1.1.10

PIX (2): ip adddress 10.1.1.10
   subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

PIX (3i ip address 208.136.247.214
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

DSL MODEM (4): ip address 208.136.247.1
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0



PIX Version 4.0.7
enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
passwd kIQggKv8.UiICW/r encrypted
hostname pixfirewall
failover
names
syslog output 20.3
no syslog console
interface ethernet outside 10baset
interface ethernet inside 10baset
ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
ip address outside 208.136.247.214 255.255.255.0
arp timeout 14400
global 1 208.136.247.214-208.136.247.214
nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
age 10
no rip outside passive
no rip outside default
no rip inside passive
no rip inside default
route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 208.136.247.1 1
route inside  0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.12
timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
no snmp-server location
no snmp-server contact
mtu outside 1500
mtu inside 1500
: end
[OK]




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Re: DNS, DHCP, UNIX, FTP help [7:15164]

2001-08-08 Thread Rob Bains

For best materials on any of these topics or any other UNIX related topics,
I would
suggest checking out Oreilly's (www.ora.com).  They are absolutely
outstanding!! And I
don't work for them or get paid to say any of this.

RSB (SCSA, SCNA, CCNA)

Brian wrote:

 hmm, a broad question.

 for unix stuff, i'd go with this.
 http://www1.fatbrain.com/asp/bookinfo/bookinfo.asp?theisbn=0130206016vm=c

 It will give you a lot of dirt on the other items also, as anyone into unix
 should get how that stuff works.

 Brian

 - Original Message -
 From: mike rose
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 2:47 PM
 Subject: DNS, DHCP, UNIX, FTP help [7:15164]

  Any one know any good books for the folliowing topics
 
  DHCP, DNS, UNIX and FTP
 
  Any input will be greatly appreciated.
 
  Thanks
 
  Mike

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I need help [7:15226]

2001-08-08 Thread Irfan Shahab

Hi Guys

I just installed Boson 3.88, but after installation my computer is behaving 
in a bizarre way. Since this is the only software i installed since this 
funky behaviour, i doubt that this could be the problem, if anyone of u 
including boson guys have 3.84, kindly email me.

Thanks



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Excuse me [7:15227]

2001-08-08 Thread Irfan Shahab

Hi Guys

I am only looking for Boson router tests, no cisco specializations etc.

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Re: OT: Multichannel Port Adapters [7:15159]

2001-08-08 Thread Erick B.

John,

I haven't seen many issues with them yet. I'm in a
support role so work with them now and then and
haven't had to RMA one yet. Good solution if you're
looking to get rid of CSU/DSU but you mentioned the
cons if it goes bad without a spare. 

The only problem I've seen with router CSU/DSU boards
(Not cisco here but probably qualifys) is if theres a
lightning/power storm and the telco line takes a hit
and the lines not plugged into a surge protector
device before the router interface then you may get a
hosed module that needs RMA'ing. 


--- John Neiberger 
wrote:
 For those of you who have Multichannel T1 port
 adapters, I'm wondering
 how those are working out for you and if you like
 that setup more than
 having an external CSU/DSU.
 
 As far as I'm concerned, I would like to eliminate
 our CSU/DSUs and
 migrate to internal CSU/DSUs on the port adapter. 
 This would allow me
 to remotely see exactly what's happening on the line
 and it would also
 allow me to do my own bit error rate testing.
 
 Then again, if a single interface goes bad I have to
 replace the entire
 port adapter and we would only have one on hand.  It
 wouldn't be
 feasible to have a spare lying around.  Of course it
 would be under
 maintenance, but it still takes time to replace
 them.  As for CSU/DSUs,
 we always have a few spare lying around.  
 
 What has your experience been with these bad boys? 
 Favorable? 
 Unfavorable?  Ambivalent?
 
 I'm considering recommending one of these for a
 project but I don't
 know if the pros outweigh the cons.
 
 Thanks,
 John


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cisco secure questions [7:15231]

2001-08-08 Thread olubunmi

All,

i have a little problem here, my cisco secure v2.3 running
on NT4 will no more keep all the log files. I had a feeling
it might be a service , i checked all the CS*** services
and found out that CSLOG will not start, displays  can not
start cslog  ..error 0002 file not found  I don't want
to reinstall the software ..please what should i do . 
btw any materials or url on cisco secure will help too.

Leggii

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how many points can 4006 support? [7:15232]

2001-08-08 Thread Leo Shen

a compus network,there are about 1800-2000 points,generally,the core switch
should be 6500 or 6000,but it is too expensive,can a 4006 be the core
switch?
how many points can 4006 maxly deal with?




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frame leaking question [7:15234]

2001-08-08 Thread Cisco Troubleshooter

which one is the ans?? and why pls help


An Ethernet media trunk link is configured and is
operating between two Cisco switches. Each switch has
identical modules, software revisions and VLAN
configuration information. Spanning tree protocol is
disabled on all VLANs. Problems have been identified
regarding frames leaking between two VLANs.  What is
the most likely cause of this problem?

a.  The duplex mode is different at each switch.
b.  The link is using IEEE 802.1Q protocol in point to
point mode.
c.  The link is using 802.10 trunk protocol, with the
SAID parameters incorrectly set.
d.  The link is using ISL protocol and the native VLAN
information is different at each end of the link.
e.  The link is using I 802.1Q protocol and the
native VLAN information is different at the each end
of the link


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ISDN Problems [7:15236]

2001-08-08 Thread Albert Lu

Hello group,

I'm having a little trouble with my ISDN config.

Now, this is what I'm getting after a single ping. It looks like it's
telling me Mandatory IE missing.

Could someone please take a look.

Thanks

Albert

!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name RouterB broadcast 
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
no ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
!

RouterA#ping
Protocol [ip]: ip
Target IP address: 196.1.1.2
Repeat count [5]: 1
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 1, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 196.1.1.2, timeout is 2 seconds:

21:05:10: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x83
21:05:10: Called Party Number i = 0x80, ''
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x8A
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   DISCONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: .
Success rate is 0 percent (0/1)
RouterA#Cause i = 0x80E034 - Mandatory IE missing
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX -  RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x4C
21:05:10: Cause i = 0x8090 - Normal call clearing


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MCSE need help [7:15235]

2001-08-08 Thread parky chan

Dear all
My office applicate is Easy Clear but when i use this
function to print out
document ,
it prompt
OLE error code 0x80040154  class not registered OLE object is being
ignored Record
number :4 

then prompt fatal error  Error number is 1925 
How to solve this problem 




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Re: MCSE need help [7:15235]

2001-08-08 Thread Oliver Nadalin

What the..???!!


parky chan  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Dear all
 My office applicate is Easy Clear but when i use this
 function to print out
 document ,
 it prompt
 OLE error code 0x80040154  class not registered OLE object is being
 ignored Record
 number :4 

 then prompt fatal error  Error number is 1925 
 How to solve this problem 




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MCNS Exam vs. CSPFA Exam [7:15238]

2001-08-08 Thread cheekin

Does anyone know the difference between these two exams.  The exam topics
look
very similar.
What reading material would you recommend for these exams?

Thanks.

cheekin




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Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]

2001-08-08 Thread Patrick Donlon

I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
cable or mis-configuration.
How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

cheers Pat




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Fw: DE bits [7:15210]

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Mandulak

- Original Message -
From: Mike Mandulak 
To: Chuck Larrieu 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: DE bits [7:15210]


 That's what I thought, when I confronted them on it they basically said
that
 since I have a full T1 all traffic will go through. But my Q is if it has
DE
 set through to their CO, does the DE bit stay set as it traverses the
 internet and thru other providers? Even if it get transformed into say ATM
 frames or whatever on it's way? I think they are feeding me a line...

 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Larrieu 
 To: Mike Mandulak ; 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:04 AM
 Subject: RE: DE bits [7:15210]


  nope. with a 0 CIR anything greater than 0 is DE.
 
  your telco is not guaranteeing that they will ever pass any of your
 traffic.
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Mike Mandulak
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: DE bits [7:15210]
 
 
  Do discard Eligible bits (DE) get set on lines that are full T1's? The
  circuit I'm looking at is a full T1 to one of my internet providers and
 when
  looking at the frame stats (using cisco LMI) I see that that the cir is
 set
  to zero which would mean that all frames leave my site with the DE bit
 set.
  Am I misunderstanding this?
 
  MikeM




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Re: MCSE need help [7:15235]

2001-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Uh...hook it up to a Cisco Router? and send us your configs!

:)

I think you may have posted this question to the wrong list...


   

parky
chan
  
cc:
Sent by: Subject: MCSE need help
[7:15235]
   
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08/08/2001
06:54
AM
   
Please
respond
to
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Dear all
My office applicate is Easy Clear but when i use this
function to print out
document ,
it prompt
OLE error code 0x80040154  class not registered OLE object is being
ignored Record
number :4 

then prompt fatal error  Error number is 1925 
How to solve this problem 




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what is the difference between NSE and NPE on 7200 serier [7:15240]

2001-08-08 Thread frank

When do we have to choose NSE-1?
It's slower than NPE-400 but is more expensive.


Thanks

frank




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Frame-relay between routers [7:15244]

2001-08-08 Thread Vik

I have set up a lab in my office with a 2926 switch, 4000
-m router and a 2610 router. I have the 2610 set up as a DCE device, clock
rate, bandwidth and frame-relay encapsulation. The 4000 is set up as DTE.

I know a hundred books explain how to do this, but I do not have access to
mine right now and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, but here's the
problem: when I check the serial interfaces, they show that the line
protocol is down. I can't figure out why I can't simulate frame between the
two routers.

Can someone please send me a bullet point check list to make sure I have
everything setup. If any other info is needed, just let me know.

Thanks
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Fw: DE bits [7:15210]

2001-08-08 Thread Mike Mandulak

- Original Message -
From: Mike Mandulak 
To: Tony Medeiros 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:42 AM
Subject: Re: DE bits [7:15210]


 Sort of... That's the way that I understood it to work. The LMI type is
set
 to Cisco and when I issue the show frame-relay pvc command, the IOS report
 the cir as being set to 0. On of my other Internet connections through a
 different provider (also non-channelized T1) the cir is reported as being
 768 which is what I would expect.

 - Original Message -
 From: Tony Medeiros 
 To: 
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:14 AM
 Subject: Re: DE bits [7:15210]


  A Cisco router will never set the DE bits unless specifically told to do
 so
  with a frame relay DE list.  The frame cloud sets the DE bit on your
 traffic
  if you exceed the CIR or burst committed data rate for your PVC.  This
 means
  that if the cloud experiences congestion,  the frames with the DE bits
are
  the first into the bit bucket.
 
  Theoretically this is the way it's supposed to work.  More times than
not
  the frame cloud will mark your frames DE even if you not exceed you SLA.
  Then it's time to call the provider.
 
  Generally, DE bits have nothing to do with port speed.  Port speed is
just
  the speed of the link you have to the frame switch.  Traffic shaping has
  more effect on the rate you send to each PVC.  It's a little
complicated.
 
  An easy way to show what the provider is giving you is to set up the
 traffic
  shaping to correspond to the SLA for the PVC.  Then do a sho frame PVC
 to
  see the stats.  DE marked frames and BECN's and FECN's, MAY be an
 indicator
  that you are not getting the SLA you should.  These parameters are
 CRITICAL
  in voice over data applications.
 
  Does this help at all ??
 
  Tony M.
  #6172
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Mike Mandulak
  To:
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:16 PM
  Subject: DE bits [7:15210]
 
 
   Do discard Eligible bits (DE) get set on lines that are full T1's? The
   circuit I'm looking at is a full T1 to one of my internet providers
and
  when
   looking at the frame stats (using cisco LMI) I see that that the cir
is
  set
   to zero which would mean that all frames leave my site with the DE bit
  set.
   Am I misunderstanding this?
  
   MikeM




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Re: ISDN Problems [7:15236]

2001-08-08 Thread Paul

Check your switch type is right. It might also be an IOS problem might be
worth upgrading your IOS.

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/129/isdn_disc_code.html

Cheers, Paul
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  From: Albert Lu
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:59 AM
  Subject: ISDN Problems [7:15236]


  Hello group,

  I'm having a little trouble with my ISDN config.

  Now, this is what I'm getting after a single ping. It looks like it's
  telling me Mandatory IE missing.

  Could someone please take a look.

  Thanks

  Albert

  !
  interface BRI0
   ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
   no ip directed-broadcast
   encapsulation ppp
   no ip route-cache
   no ip mroute-cache
   dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name RouterB broadcast 
   dialer-group 1
   isdn switch-type basic-ni
   ppp authentication chap
   ppp multilink
  !
  no ip classless
  !
  dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
  !
  !

  RouterA#ping
  Protocol [ip]: ip
  Target IP address: 196.1.1.2
  Repeat count [5]: 1
  Datagram size [100]:
  Timeout in seconds [2]:
  Extended commands [n]:
  Sweep range of sizes [n]:
  Type escape sequence to abort.
  Sending 1, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 196.1.1.2, timeout is 2 seconds:

  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
  21:05:10: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
  21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x83
  21:05:10: Called Party Number i = 0x80, ''
  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
  21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x8A
  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   DISCONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x65
  21:05:10: .
  Success rate is 0 percent (0/1)
  RouterA#Cause i = 0x80E034 - Mandatory IE missing
  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
  21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX -  RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x4C
  21:05:10: Cause i = 0x8090 - Normal call clearing


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What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread Albert Lu

Hello group,

A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's
default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way of
doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while.

Thanks

Albert


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Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam Books [7:15246]

2001-08-08 Thread Kanthimathi R

hi,

Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam Books  model test
sources

Thanks,


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R: R: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]

2001-08-08 Thread Picciani Francesco Saverio

I would say that if, for any reason, some V-LAN have spanning tree problem,
during the convergence time of the spanning tree algorithm related to that
V-LAN, other V-LANs continue to work even if they share the same trunk.

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Inviato: martedl 7 agosto 2001 20.02
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]


At 02:53 PM 8/7/01, Picciani Francesco Saverio wrote:
I thing that the main benefit of having per-VLAN spanning tree is that a
problem on a VLAN does not impact the other VLANs also if they lay on the
same ISL trunk.

If the VLANs share a trunk, then they do affect each other. For example, if 
one VLAN is experiencing a broadcast storm or some other problem related to 
excessive traffic, that problem could affect other VLANs on the same trunk. 
The trunk is shared bandwidth.

But with per-VLAN spanning tree, you could have two trunks and divide up 
which VLANs travel each trunk as first priority.

Without per-VLAN spanning tree, if you had two trunks between two switches, 
one of the trunks would be in the blocking state (or you would have a 
loop). With standard spanning tree, there's no load sharing across 
redundant links.

Maybe that's what you were saying, but I just wanted to add on a bit.

Priscilla


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Da: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Inviato: lunedl 6 agosto 2001 20.05
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]


At 02:13 PM 8/5/01, Cisco Troubleshooter wrote:
 can any body tell,
 
 why we need spanning tree protocol per vlan

If you have a large, switched network, all the switches are in the same
spanning tree. Converging the spanning tree can take a long time. In
addition, traffic flow may not be optimized. The selection of the root
bridge and which interfaces are blocking might not be optimized for all the
applications and devices in the large, switched network.

With per-VLAN spanning tree, each VLAN becomes a single spanning tree with
its own root bridge and own set of blocked ports. This way you can optimize
traffic flow and reduce the amount of work to converge to a spanning tree.
It's somewhat analogous to dividing a routed network into areas or
autonomous systems.

Also, at least with Catalyst 1900 switches, if you allow all VLANs to
travel across both trunks, you will have a loop. If you don't configure
per-VLAN spanning tree, you will have a broken network. You would think
spanning tree would just work around this problem, but it doesn't seem to
when VLANs are configured.


 and vtp why it is needed what purpose it serves

VTP is a management protocol that allows switches to share information
about VLAN names and IDs. It reduces configuration because you can
configure VLAN names and IDs on just one or two server switches. The rest
of the switches act as clients and pick up the info when they boot.

By default, the switches do not keep track of which switches have which
VLANs configured, however. I disagree with the other responder who said VTP
reduces bandwidth usage on links and switches. It's VTP pruning that does
that.

If you configure VTP pruning, then an added VTP message gets sent. The
added message includes VLAN membership information. With VTP pruning, the
switches become a bit smarter and do not forward traffic for a VLAN across
a link or to a switch that has no ports in that VLAN. This must be
configured. Without pruning, VTP just shares info about VLAN names and IDs.

Priscilla


 thnx in advance
 
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RE: CID test question [7:15131]

2001-08-08 Thread Andrew Larkins

I would go for all of them..ABCD

-Original Message-
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Sent: 07 August 2001 21:53
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CID test question [7:15131]


Which test and question ID i would like to look it up. I think I have two
old CID tests on my laptop.



- Original Message -
From: Priscilla Oppenheimer 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:58 AM
Subject: Re: CID test question [7:15131]


 At 02:25 PM 8/7/01, Jin Jung wrote:
 I have to go with ABC, or to be honest ABCD,
 but A and D are saying just about samething, so if I have to pick it will
be
 A because it covers all aspact of resources (bandwidth, CPU, type of
 router...)..

  From a test-taking perspective, I think this logic would get you in
 trouble. For a question with multiple right answers, you should be
thinking
 if A is right, then D is also right.

 If there were just one right answer and you were expected to pick the
 single BEST answer, then perhaps A is better than D. (But if this were a
 question with a single right answer, it would be a very bad question.)

 So, I vote for A,B,C and D.

 Priscilla

 B is definitly YES, If you compare DV protocol and LS routing protocol,
 support of VLSM is big plus for LS routing protocol..
 
 Just my 2 cents..
 - Original Message -
 From: Stephen Skinner
 To:
 Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 1:41 PM
 Subject: CID test question [7:15131]
 
 
   howdy...
  
   do you chaps agree or disagreei personally think it should be ABD
  
   indetify the considerations for routing protocol selection
   A) resource utilization
   b) address Flexibilty
   c) convergence time
   d) bandwidth utilization
  
   it says A,B,C i say A,C,D.your thought please
  
   steve
  
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RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]

2001-08-08 Thread Wilson, Bradley

I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?


-Original Message-
From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]


I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
cable or mis-configuration.
How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

cheers Pat




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Re: Frame-relay between routers [7:15244]

2001-08-08 Thread Debbie Westall

Vik,

Here you go

DCE Device

frame-relay switching
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 56000
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
 description Frame Relay switch to Router 2
 ip address 192.168.2.5 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100   
!


DTE Device
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
! 
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
 description PVC to host router R1
 ip address 192.168.2.6 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100   


Also don't forget you can always search the groupstudy
archives for info like this.

Debbie

--- Vik  wrote:
 I have set up a lab in my office with a 2926 switch,
 4000
 -m router and a 2610 router. I have the 2610 set up
 as a DCE device, clock
 rate, bandwidth and frame-relay encapsulation. The
 4000 is set up as DTE.
 
 I know a hundred books explain how to do this, but I
 do not have access to
 mine right now and I can't figure out what I'm doing
 wrong, but here's the
 problem: when I check the serial interfaces, they
 show that the line
 protocol is down. I can't figure out why I can't
 simulate frame between the
 two routers.
 
 Can someone please send me a bullet point check list
 to make sure I have
 everything setup. If any other info is needed, just
 let me know.
 
 Thanks
 --
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Re: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15253]

2001-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

lighten up

Andrew Lennon wrote:

 @!#$ OFF

 This has sod all to do with passing the CCIE exam!

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of
 Kenny Sallee
 Sent: 08 August 2001 00:03
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Dedicated T1 to Japan

 Does anyone here know the approximate cost of a dedicated T1 from the
 west
 coast to Japan.  Doesn't need to be exact I just need rough numbers.  I
 apologize for being off subject.
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Re: Frame-relay between routers [7:15244]

2001-08-08 Thread Debbie Westall

Vik,

Here you go

DCE Device

frame-relay switching
!
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 clockrate 56000
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
 frame-relay intf-type dce
!
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
 description Frame Relay switch to Router 2
 ip address 192.168.2.5 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100   
!


DTE Device
interface Serial0
 no ip address
 encapsulation frame-relay
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
! 
interface Serial0.1 point-to-point
 description PVC to host router R1
 ip address 192.168.2.6 255.255.255.252
 frame-relay interface-dlci 100   


Also don't forget you can always search the groupstudy
archives for info like this.

Debbie

--- Vik  wrote:
 I have set up a lab in my office with a 2926 switch,
 4000
 -m router and a 2610 router. I have the 2610 set up
 as a DCE device, clock
 rate, bandwidth and frame-relay encapsulation. The
 4000 is set up as DTE.
 
 I know a hundred books explain how to do this, but I
 do not have access to
 mine right now and I can't figure out what I'm doing
 wrong, but here's the
 problem: when I check the serial interfaces, they
 show that the line
 protocol is down. I can't figure out why I can't
 simulate frame between the
 two routers.
 
 Can someone please send me a bullet point check list
 to make sure I have
 everything setup. If any other info is needed, just
 let me know.
 
 Thanks
 --
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cell: (602) 677-8214
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Re: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]

2001-08-08 Thread Patrick Donlon

It's a server in the port, and the messages are occurring fairly frequently
in succession. I can see other devices joining and leaving occasionally, I
thought this interface may be flapping,

cheers


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 I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
 switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?


 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]


 I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

 06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

 06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

 From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
 cable or mis-configuration.
 How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

 cheers Pat




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RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]

2001-08-08 Thread Thompson, Robert D

I would say that its some one joining or leaving...Look on your console and
test it...

Rob

 -Original Message-
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 Sent: 08 August 2001 13:25
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]
 
 I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
 switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]
 
 
 I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:
 
 06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48
 
 06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.
 
 From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
 cable or mis-configuration.
 How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?
 
 cheers Pat




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RE: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15256]

2001-08-08 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Agreed.  I have no problem with questions like this.  Being a good engineer
has a lot to do with things which are *not* on the CCIE Lab checklist, and
it never hurts to color outside the lines now and then.


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Subject: Re: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15253]


lighten up

Andrew Lennon wrote:

 @!#$ OFF

 This has sod all to do with passing the CCIE exam!

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 Kenny Sallee
 Sent: 08 August 2001 00:03
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: Dedicated T1 to Japan

 Does anyone here know the approximate cost of a dedicated T1 from the
 west
 coast to Japan.  Doesn't need to be exact I just need rough numbers.  I
 apologize for being off subject.
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Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)!!!!! [7:15117]

2001-08-08 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Lance those little bluey thingies are called links.
You got to click on them with your mouse.

- Original Message -
From: Lance 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:23 PM
Subject: Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)! [7:15117]


 Are you trying to tell me that the 750 Page second edition book that is
for
 sale is the same as the 22 Page Pdf file that is on the Cisco site that
you
 directed me to.

 www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm

 Uhh...I don't think so ;-)



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Re: R: R: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]

2001-08-08 Thread Lionel Gourvitch

Cisco now prefer to implement MVPST. It allows a single spanning tree 
instance to run for multiple VLAN. So you reduce the CPU charge caused by a 
large number of VLAN created on your network but you still have a 
security issue by having different ST instance running for each group of 
VLAN. This runs of 802.1Q links only

Hope it helps

At 08:07 AM 8/8/2001 -0400, Picciani Francesco Saverio wrote:
I would say that if, for any reason, some V-LAN have spanning tree problem,
during the convergence time of the spanning tree algorithm related to that
V-LAN, other V-LANs continue to work even if they share the same trunk.

-Messaggio originale-
Da: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Inviato: martedl 7 agosto 2001 20.02
A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Oggetto: Re: R: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]


At 02:53 PM 8/7/01, Picciani Francesco Saverio wrote:
 I thing that the main benefit of having per-VLAN spanning tree is that a
 problem on a VLAN does not impact the other VLANs also if they lay on the
 same ISL trunk.

If the VLANs share a trunk, then they do affect each other. For example, if
one VLAN is experiencing a broadcast storm or some other problem related to
excessive traffic, that problem could affect other VLANs on the same trunk.
The trunk is shared bandwidth.

But with per-VLAN spanning tree, you could have two trunks and divide up
which VLANs travel each trunk as first priority.

Without per-VLAN spanning tree, if you had two trunks between two switches,
one of the trunks would be in the blocking state (or you would have a
loop). With standard spanning tree, there's no load sharing across
redundant links.

Maybe that's what you were saying, but I just wanted to add on a bit.

Priscilla


 -Messaggio originale-
 Da: Priscilla Oppenheimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Inviato: lunedl 6 agosto 2001 20.05
 A: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Oggetto: Re: vtp, spanning tree [7:14961]
 
 
 At 02:13 PM 8/5/01, Cisco Troubleshooter wrote:
  can any body tell,
  
  why we need spanning tree protocol per vlan
 
 If you have a large, switched network, all the switches are in the same
 spanning tree. Converging the spanning tree can take a long time. In
 addition, traffic flow may not be optimized. The selection of the root
 bridge and which interfaces are blocking might not be optimized for all
the
 applications and devices in the large, switched network.
 
 With per-VLAN spanning tree, each VLAN becomes a single spanning tree with
 its own root bridge and own set of blocked ports. This way you can
optimize
 traffic flow and reduce the amount of work to converge to a spanning tree.
 It's somewhat analogous to dividing a routed network into areas or
 autonomous systems.
 
 Also, at least with Catalyst 1900 switches, if you allow all VLANs to
 travel across both trunks, you will have a loop. If you don't configure
 per-VLAN spanning tree, you will have a broken network. You would think
 spanning tree would just work around this problem, but it doesn't seem to
 when VLANs are configured.
 
 
  and vtp why it is needed what purpose it serves
 
 VTP is a management protocol that allows switches to share information
 about VLAN names and IDs. It reduces configuration because you can
 configure VLAN names and IDs on just one or two server switches. The rest
 of the switches act as clients and pick up the info when they boot.
 
 By default, the switches do not keep track of which switches have which
 VLANs configured, however. I disagree with the other responder who said
VTP
 reduces bandwidth usage on links and switches. It's VTP pruning that does
 that.
 
 If you configure VTP pruning, then an added VTP message gets sent. The
 added message includes VLAN membership information. With VTP pruning, the
 switches become a bit smarter and do not forward traffic for a VLAN across
 a link or to a switch that has no ports in that VLAN. This must be
 configured. Without pruning, VTP just shares info about VLAN names and
IDs.
 
 Priscilla
 
 
  thnx in advance
  
  jd
  
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RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread Harrison, Michael

I cannot test this yet (I will tonight) but I would try the following:

Enter setup mode; escape from setup; save config.  That should completely
overwrite the current config without reloading.  


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]


Hello group,

A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's
default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way of
doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while.

Thanks

Albert


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Re: TCP/IP [7:15213]

2001-08-08 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Why - It is called software because it is.

Explain - Cause you can't carry it in a bag like a piece of hardware.
Think of how light your carry-on at the airport would be, if all you had in
there was TCP/IP.



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Subject: TCP/IP [7:15213]


 Dear all
 Pls tell me
 Why TCP/IP is call software and explain

 Thanks




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How to block Code Red Info [7:15258]

2001-08-08 Thread Patrick Ramsey

Good stuff!

-Patrick




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Re: ISDN Problems [7:15236]

2001-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Albert,
This is an excerpt from the CCO on ISDN troubleshooting issues.  It is 
apparently n issue with your provider's ISDN switch.
HTH,
Rob H.  CCNP, CCDP, CCIE Written, MCSE, CCA

Because the router includes the Channel ID Information Element (DE) in the 
ALERTING and the CONNECT messages, the Siemens NI1 switch sends the STATUS 
message in accordance with section 6.3.5.2 of the Bellcore SR-NWT-001953
ISDN
Terminal Equipment on Basic Access Interfaces. It is recommended but not 
required that the terminal equipment (such as the Cisco router) not include 
the Channel ID IE after the CALL_PROC. If the router does include this IE, 
the switch is supposed to ignore it and send a STATUS message. 

  Previously, if you received an unsolicated STATUS message from the switch, 
you would perform a call state comparison and if the call states were not
the
same you would release the call. When the call is still in the progressing 
call states, the progressing call states will not be equal. How to handle
the
STATUS message under certain cause conditions such as invalid IE or
mandatory
IE missing is an implementation option. 

  Workaround: If the switch sends a complaining STATUS message about 
including optional IEs, allow them to be included and to determine if they 
wish to terminate the call. This option is implemented only for call 
progressing states four through nine.



Hello group,

I'm having a little trouble with my ISDN config.

Now, this is what I'm getting after a single ping. It looks like it's
telling me Mandatory IE missing.

Could someone please take a look.

Thanks

Albert

!
interface BRI0
 ip address 196.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation ppp
 no ip route-cache
 no ip mroute-cache
 dialer map ip 196.1.1.2 name RouterB broadcast 
 dialer-group 1
 isdn switch-type basic-ni
 ppp authentication chap
 ppp multilink
!
no ip classless
!
dialer-list 1 protocol ip permit
!
!

RouterA#ping
Protocol [ip]: ip
Target IP address: 196.1.1.2
Repeat count [5]: 1
Datagram size [100]:
Timeout in seconds [2]:
Extended commands [n]:
Sweep range of sizes [n]:
Type escape sequence to abort.
Sending 1, 100-byte ICMP Echos to 196.1.1.2, timeout is 2 seconds:

21:05:10: ISDN BR0: TX -  SETUP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: Bearer Capability i = 0x8890
21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x83
21:05:10: Called Party Number i = 0x80, ''
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   CONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
21:05:10: Channel ID i = 0x8A
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   DISCONNECT pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: .
Success rate is 0 percent (0/1)
RouterA#Cause i = 0x80E034 - Mandatory IE missing
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x65
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX   RELEASE pd = 8  callref = 0xCC
21:05:10: ISDN BR0: RX -  RELEASE_COMP pd = 8  callref = 0x4C
21:05:10: Cause i = 0x8090 - Normal call clearing




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Re: I need help [7:15226]

2001-08-08 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I think I'm running 3.67 but here is an e-mail anyway.




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To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:18 AM
Subject: I need help [7:15226]


 Hi Guys

 I just installed Boson 3.88, but after installation my computer is
behaving
 in a bizarre way. Since this is the only software i installed since this
 funky behaviour, i doubt that this could be the problem, if anyone of u
 including boson guys have 3.84, kindly email me.

 Thanks



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Re: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

write erase




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Re: improve lan speed ? [7:15225]

2001-08-08 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

thanks Elvis, I was wondering why the price of model rockets has quadrupled
over the last two years. It must be because everyone is migrating from 10 to
100 Mbps, hence the shortage of balsa wood.
But you know all engineers have a special affinity for balsa so we will pay
anything.
Don



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From: Elvis Costello 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 11:36 PM
Subject: re: improve lan speed ? [7:15225]


 [demime could not interpret encoding binary - treating as plain text]
 This is tricky but try the following:

 Go to your local store and buy some super glue.
 Apply a generous amount of superglue to NIC A and affix it to NIC B.
 This (1/2)+(1/2) methodology will yield one full duplex combo card (please
 do not get greedy and try this with more than two NICs as your KITTY 5
wire
 may begin to melt).

 But wait, there's more --

 The 10 to 100 transition is even easier, just look on the side of your NIC
 for the Spoiler upgrade slot.  While I am far too addle-minded to
 understand the complex aerodynamic issues involved, I have been told by my
 good friend H. Simpson that the spoiler upgrade allows the card to
transfer
 data at a far faster rate without subjecting your server to the risk of
 becoming unstable and possibly flipping over right in the middle of your
 datacenter.  This is what the old people used to call an abend (and it
it
 most frightening for all but the most grizzled NOC vets).  Using some of
the
 glue leftover from step 1, obtain and apply a Spoiler (preferably made out
 of balsa wood) to the new and improved nic combo card and then place it
back
 in the machine.

 You will soon be well on your way to packet nirvana.



 ..
 how to change from half duplex to full duplex,
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(Issue Resolved!) Need some advice on a Frame Relay Latency [7:15264]

2001-08-08 Thread Raul De La Garza

Thank you everyone for your generous responses.  They were are very useful.  
We (MCI and myself) finally eradicated the problem.  There were two issues 
which needed clearing.  First, after monitoring one of our two T1 circuits 
supporting FR, MCI noted that one of the two 'main' lines (DATA 1) was 
taking errors.  Prior to finding this information I had already begun 
modifying our router's configs in an effort to improve performance.  As I 
have stated in my previous post, I had tried queueing and traffic shaping.  
Once I had enabled traffic shaping I monitored the latency and found no 
distinguishable difference with regards to previous latency reports so I 
left it active.  One exception, I removed the map class statement from the 
subinterface that pointed to the ClrWtr_Frame router.  Of course, once the 
line errors were fixed by the carrier, latency did not improve so we 
determined that the problem must now reside somewhere else.  The sniffer on 
the local loop helped point us in the right direction in at least looking to 
how the remote router was configured.  But, seeing as the remote router's 
config was fairly basic, we decided it must've been a hardware issue.  I was 
about to send the remote site a spare router to replace the current one 
until I decided to have a final look at the central site's config before 
shipping.  I noticed something very strange, or at least strange to me.  
Although I had removed the map class statement from the subinterface to 
ClrWtr_Frame, after executing a 'show frame-realy pvc 22' I received output 
that confirmed that traffic shaping was still active on the subinterface.  
Therefore I had to remove traffic shaping from the physical interface.  Once 
that was done, latency improve greatly and became very consistent with ICMP 
response times between 50 and 60 ms on the average.  Of course, removing the 
frame-relay traffic-shape command from the physical interface removes it 
from ALL subinterfaces.  From this I conclude that

1) traffic shaping is a hinderance on FR hub-and-spoke point-to-point 
subinterface configurations

2) One must remove traffic shaping on the physical interface in order to 
disable it on the router and not simply remove the map class statement from 
the subinterface for default values will be used

3) physical line problems are not easy to identify unless your carrier steps 
up to the proverbial 'plate'

4) once again, I am humbled by my lack of knowledge in data communications

Humbly,

Raul De La Garza III
CCDP NNCSS MCSE CNE

Original Message Follows
From: John Neiberger 
To: 
CC: 
Subject: Re: Need some advice on a Frame Relay Latency issue [7:15146]
Date: Tue, 07 Aug 2001 14:02:54 -0600

If you are seeing inconsistent and unusually long ping response times
between two routers connected to a frame relay network--especially if
you're not seeing physical errors--it's probably the frame relay
provider.  This exact situation has happened at least three times in the
last year with Qwest.  Sometimes it takes quite a bit of prodding to get
them to search out the offending equipment, but don't let them continue
to say it's your equipment just because they're lazy and don't want to
do some troubleshooting.  :-)

Regards,
John

  Raul De La Garza  8/7/01 1:12:48 PM
 
Hello everyone.

I have a peculiar problem with one of my company's FR circuits.  We
have
been trying to troubleshoot this issue ever since we purchased FR to
replace
point-to-point HDLC.  This circuit has a 256K CIR and 512K port speed.

Bandwidth utilization is low and never approaches the CIR.  The remote

router's CPU and memory utilization are also very low.  At present,
only
weighted fair queueing is enabled.  We have tried priority queueing and

traffic shaping to no avail.  User response times are extremely high
ranging
anywhere between 80ms to over 2000ms!

Also, we are routing IP (no ip routing protocol, I have set a default
route
back to corporate as this remote office is one of a few spokes in our
hub-and-spoke topology) and we are routing IPX using EIGRP.

The central site FR router is a 3640 with two T1 WICs with integrated
DSUs.
The remote site router is a 2501 connected to an ADC Kentrox DataSMART
658
T1 DSU.

Our FR vendor claims that his tests running from DCE to DCE receive a
consistent response time of 70ms.  However, the vendor has noted that
when
ICMP messages are sent to the remote router some are responded to very

quickly but most do take an unusually great amount of time in
responding.
This the vendor found when placing a sniffer on the local loop.

So it seems that there may be a config issue or a hardware issue at our

remote site.  Any words of wisdom you can provide would be greatly
appreciated.

Following are the configs for the remote router and the central
router.

REMOTE

Clrwtr_Frame#sh run
Building configuration...

Current configuration:
!
! Last configuration change at 14:09:24 UTC Tue Aug 7 2001
! NVRAM 

fifth one today [7:15269]

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Subject: BE A MILLIONAIRE LIKE OTHERS WITHIN A YEAR! [7:15233]


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Re: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]

2001-08-08 Thread cheekin

I think you will need to give a different range of IP address for the global
statement.  The global statement and the outside interface are using the
same ip address.

I also think that the route inside statement is not necessary in this case.
You can use sh route to display the routing table.

PIX gurus, correct me if I am wrong.


cheekin

- Original Message -
From: Pierre-Alex 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:34
Subject: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]


 I have spent the all day on the problem below and I still can't see what I
 did wrong.

 Can you help?

 The PC can ping the inside ip address of the firewall
 The Firewall can ping the default-gateway and anything on the Internet
 But I cannot get the PC to ping the outside IP address of the firewall
 (208.136.247.214)
 or anything outside like (206.26.90.8).


 |PC|(1)--(2)|PIX|(3)-(4)--DSL MODEM

 PC (1): ip address 10.1.1.12
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
   default gateway: 10.1.1.10

 PIX (2): ip adddress 10.1.1.10
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

 PIX (3i ip address 208.136.247.214
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

 DSL MODEM (4): ip address 208.136.247.1
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0



 PIX Version 4.0.7
 enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
 passwd kIQggKv8.UiICW/r encrypted
 hostname pixfirewall
 failover
 names
 syslog output 20.3
 no syslog console
 interface ethernet outside 10baset
 interface ethernet inside 10baset
 ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
 ip address outside 208.136.247.214 255.255.255.0
 arp timeout 14400
 global 1 208.136.247.214-208.136.247.214
 nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
 age 10
 no rip outside passive
 no rip outside default
 no rip inside passive
 no rip inside default
 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 208.136.247.1 1
 route inside  0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.12
 timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
 no snmp-server location
 no snmp-server contact
 mtu outside 1500
 mtu inside 1500
 : end
 [OK]




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RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15257]

2001-08-08 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Okay, I see where you're coming from.  Are the switch port and server NIC
hard-coded at a certain speed and duplex?


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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:35 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]


It's a server in the port, and the messages are occurring fairly frequently
in succession. I can see other devices joining and leaving occasionally, I
thought this interface may be flapping,

cheers


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 I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
 switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?


 -Original Message-
 From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]


 I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

 06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

 06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

 From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
 cable or mis-configuration.
 How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

 cheers Pat




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Frame-Relay Compression [7:15270]

2001-08-08 Thread Pierrek

I would like to know if it is efficient to use frame-relay payload compress
on subinterface while using traffic shaping with CIR




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High CPU Utilization [7:15272]

2001-08-08 Thread Nabil Fares

Greetings,

Any tips on improving high cpu utilization on a Cisco 7500? 

4 T1s
1 HSSI
1 TokenRing Port
2 FastEthernet (Bundled, FEC)

Its running around 54%, any segmentations would be great.

Thanks,

Nabil




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Network Monitoring [7:15271]

2001-08-08 Thread Tom Snow

Can anyone recommend a good free network monitoring software.  Thanks.

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RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I don't have anything to try on right now, but it occurs to me that this
might work:

erase start
copy start run

in theory, at least.

Chuck

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Albert Lu
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 5:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]


Hello group,

A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's
default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way of
doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while.

Thanks

Albert


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RE: Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam [7:15246]

2001-08-08 Thread Munzir Khan

Get this book

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Get Boson exam test1  test2 go thru all links what boson suggests

take a look at these link

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/76/9.html
http://www.cramsession.com
http://cramsession.brainbuzz.com/cramsession/cisco/bcran/guide.asp

are more then enough to pass with flying colors.

Cheers


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Re: what is the difference between NSE and NPE on 7200 serier [7:15277]

2001-08-08 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

If there is much high-touch e.g. CoS/QoS, Long ACLs etc then the NSE-1 is
good option due to its use of PXF, if not go for the NPE-400.

Even the NPE-400 needs 12.1(6)E IOS

H.T.H.
Dom Stocqueler




   

   
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When do we have to choose NSE-1?
It's slower than NPE-400 but is more expensive.


Thanks

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Passed CIT now CCNP [7:15279]

2001-08-08 Thread Bolton, Travis

Team,

I just passed my last exam for CCNP status.  I would like to thank everybody
for their help and encouragement.  Now I'm off to studying for the CCIE
written.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Travis




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RE: DE bits [7:15210]

2001-08-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

The DE bit is significant only on the frame cloud.

yes, this can be transferred from carrier to carrier. for example, if you
have a frame circuit between Portland OR and San Diego, CA you are crossing
LATA boundaries, and a RBOC boundary, so must use at least two carriers. In
that case, your CIR is significant end to end across the frame clouds of two
carriers.

in the case of an internet connection, one would hope that the ISP pop is in
the same town, and that they use a different carrier onto the internet
backbone, so there would be no transfer of the DE bit onto any internet
backbone.

I should clarify by saying that the CIR is significant only to your end to
end circuit. The termination of that circuit into another router ends the
layer two framing. Even if the data were forwarded by that router onto
another frame circuit from the same carrier, a new layer two frame would
still be built, and no DE bit would have been set.

Zero CIR is not necessarily a bad thing. Lot's of companies do things like
that to minimize their costs.  OTOH, I thought most carriers these days were
not selling zero CIR, for that same reason.

Yes, your router will try to pump out a T1 worth of data if it has it. In
general, though, chances are good that you are not attempting to fully
utilize the line. It is only when your carrier frame cloud is seeing more
traffic than it can handle that frames with the DE bit are dropped.

HTH

Chuck

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Mike Mandulak
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 4:33 AM
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Subject: Fw: DE bits [7:15210]


- Original Message -
From: Mike Mandulak
To: Chuck Larrieu
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: DE bits [7:15210]


 That's what I thought, when I confronted them on it they basically said
that
 since I have a full T1 all traffic will go through. But my Q is if it has
DE
 set through to their CO, does the DE bit stay set as it traverses the
 internet and thru other providers? Even if it get transformed into say ATM
 frames or whatever on it's way? I think they are feeding me a line...

 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Larrieu
 To: Mike Mandulak ;
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:04 AM
 Subject: RE: DE bits [7:15210]


  nope. with a 0 CIR anything greater than 0 is DE.
 
  your telco is not guaranteeing that they will ever pass any of your
 traffic.
 
  Chuck
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Mike Mandulak
  Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:17 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: DE bits [7:15210]
 
 
  Do discard Eligible bits (DE) get set on lines that are full T1's? The
  circuit I'm looking at is a full T1 to one of my internet providers and
 when
  looking at the frame stats (using cisco LMI) I see that that the cir is
 set
  to zero which would mean that all frames leave my site with the DE bit
 set.
  Am I misunderstanding this?
 
  MikeM




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RE: cisco secure questions [7:15231]

2001-08-08 Thread Munzir Khan

A very good information on CSV log on cisco site you need to have CCO access
to view this page

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_soft/csacs4nt/csnt23/csnt23ug/logging.htm

Regards


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RE: how many points can 4006 support? [7:15232]

2001-08-08 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I presume by points you mean ethernet ports? 240 ( 5x48 port blade )

perhaps you should visit the Cisco public configuration tool found at

http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/newConfig/config_root.pl

and take a look at what kind of blades are available for the 4xxx series.

something your could do is put a couple of 4006's in your core, and run
fiber or fast ethernet to your closets, and put a bunch of 3534's or 3548's
there for the end users.

it all depends on your needs and your data flows

Chuck

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Subject: how many points can 4006 support? [7:15232]


a compus network,there are about 1800-2000 points,generally,the core switch
should be 6500 or 6000,but it is too expensive,can a 4006 be the core
switch?
how many points can 4006 maxly deal with?




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Re: DE bits [7:15210]

2001-08-08 Thread Brian

I doubt the cir is set to zero, it almost certainly is set to a value below
the 1.5 meg value, I'd suspect 768k perhaps.  Whomever is the circuit owner
can call the telco to find out.

Brian

- Original Message -
From: Mike Mandulak 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 9:16 PM
Subject: DE bits [7:15210]


 Do discard Eligible bits (DE) get set on lines that are full T1's? The
 circuit I'm looking at is a full T1 to one of my internet providers and
when
 looking at the frame stats (using cisco LMI) I see that that the cir is
set
 to zero which would mean that all frames leave my site with the DE bit
set.
 Am I misunderstanding this?

 MikeM




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CCNA exam [7:15284]

2001-08-08 Thread Artashes Kalantarian

Hi All
I am new to this newsgroup
I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month.
Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge?
Thanks




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Re: Cisco Syslog [7:15211]

2001-08-08 Thread Munzir Khan

Try this link for configuring syslog on UNIX

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_4/config/logging.htm


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Re: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15257]

2001-08-08 Thread Patrick Donlon

The switch port set to auto, I don't know about the server. Having looked at
the counters in the past 3 hours they haven't incremented any further, there
were a number of collisions when I first checked. I'm thinking the server
has been restarted a few times as it's not occurring now, looks likely that
will be the problem

thanks



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Okay, I see where you're coming from.  Are the switch port and server NIC
 hard-coded at a certain speed and duplex?


 -Original Message-
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:35 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]


 It's a server in the port, and the messages are occurring fairly
frequently
 in succession. I can see other devices joining and leaving occasionally, I
 thought this interface may be flapping,

 cheers


 Wilson, Bradley  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
  switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]
 
 
  I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:
 
  06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48
 
  06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.
 
  From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
  cable or mis-configuration.
  How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?
 
  cheers Pat




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Re: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]

2001-08-08 Thread Patrick Ramsey

You can use the same ip address on the outside as yoru global statement...
But unless you are allowing icmp on the inside and the outside interface, a
ping will not go through...

A statement like this would be in order.

access-list inside permit icmp any any
access-list outside permit icmp any any
(this is bad juju and not recommended)

remember you also have to have an access group for each interface you want
to ACL.

So something along these lines would work

access-group inside in interface inside
access-group outside in interface outside

-Patrick

 cheekin  08/08/01 09:27AM 
I think you will need to give a different range of IP address for the global
statement.  The global statement and the outside interface are using the
same ip address.

I also think that the route inside statement is not necessary in this case.
You can use sh route to display the routing table.

PIX gurus, correct me if I am wrong.


cheekin

- Original Message -
From: Pierre-Alex 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:34
Subject: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]


 I have spent the all day on the problem below and I still can't see what I
 did wrong.

 Can you help?

 The PC can ping the inside ip address of the firewall
 The Firewall can ping the default-gateway and anything on the Internet
 But I cannot get the PC to ping the outside IP address of the firewall
 (208.136.247.214)
 or anything outside like (206.26.90.8).


 |PC|(1)--(2)|PIX|(3)-(4)--DSL MODEM

 PC (1): ip address 10.1.1.12
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
   default gateway: 10.1.1.10

 PIX (2): ip adddress 10.1.1.10
subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

 PIX (3i ip address 208.136.247.214
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0

 DSL MODEM (4): ip address 208.136.247.1
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0



 PIX Version 4.0.7
 enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
 passwd kIQggKv8.UiICW/r encrypted
 hostname pixfirewall
 failover
 names
 syslog output 20.3
 no syslog console
 interface ethernet outside 10baset
 interface ethernet inside 10baset
 ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
 ip address outside 208.136.247.214 255.255.255.0
 arp timeout 14400
 global 1 208.136.247.214-208.136.247.214
 nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
 age 10
 no rip outside passive
 no rip outside default
 no rip inside passive
 no rip inside default
 route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 208.136.247.1 1
 route inside  0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.12
 timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
 timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
 no snmp-server location
 no snmp-server contact
 mtu outside 1500
 mtu inside 1500
 : end
 [OK]




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code red [7:15286]

2001-08-08 Thread Dale Frohman

I wanted to share this with the group:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/nbar_acl_codered.shtml




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Re: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]

2001-08-08 Thread Allen May

Looks ok to me but I tend to agree with cheekin.  Try subnetting to a .128
to divide your IP range in 2 so you have half for the global range and half
for the equipment on the LAN.  If nothing else, just to see if that
eliminates your problem for troubleshooting purposes.


- Original Message -
From: cheekin 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]


 I think you will need to give a different range of IP address for the
global
 statement.  The global statement and the outside interface are using the
 same ip address.

 I also think that the route inside statement is not necessary in this
case.
 You can use sh route to display the routing table.

 PIX gurus, correct me if I am wrong.


 cheekin

 - Original Message -
 From: Pierre-Alex
 To:
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:34
 Subject: Can't ping outside of PIX [7:15205]


  I have spent the all day on the problem below and I still can't see what
I
  did wrong.
 
  Can you help?
 
  The PC can ping the inside ip address of the firewall
  The Firewall can ping the default-gateway and anything on the Internet
  But I cannot get the PC to ping the outside IP address of the firewall
  (208.136.247.214)
  or anything outside like (206.26.90.8).
 
 
  |PC|(1)--(2)|PIX|(3)-(4)--DSL MODEM
 
  PC (1): ip address 10.1.1.12
  subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
default gateway: 10.1.1.10
 
  PIX (2): ip adddress 10.1.1.10
 subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
 
  PIX (3i ip address 208.136.247.214
  subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
 
  DSL MODEM (4): ip address 208.136.247.1
  subnet mask: 255.255.255.0
 
 
 
  PIX Version 4.0.7
  enable password 8Ry2YjIyt7RRXU24 encrypted
  passwd kIQggKv8.UiICW/r encrypted
  hostname pixfirewall
  failover
  names
  syslog output 20.3
  no syslog console
  interface ethernet outside 10baset
  interface ethernet inside 10baset
  ip address inside 10.1.1.10 255.255.255.0
  ip address outside 208.136.247.214 255.255.255.0
  arp timeout 14400
  global 1 208.136.247.214-208.136.247.214
  nat 1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0
  age 10
  no rip outside passive
  no rip outside default
  no rip inside passive
  no rip inside default
  route outside 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 208.136.247.1 1
  route inside  0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 10.1.1.12
  timeout xlate 24:00:00 conn 12:00:00 udp 0:02:00
  timeout rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 uauth 0:05:00
  no snmp-server location
  no snmp-server contact
  mtu outside 1500
  mtu inside 1500
  : end
  [OK]




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RE: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15256]

2001-08-08 Thread Marshal Schoener

My company is paying for a 64k frame-relay to Malaysia.
Cost = $5000 USD a month :-)

Japan is not nearly as far, and probably has a lot more options, but expect
to pay a good 
amount of money for 1.5mb to Japan :-)

   Good Luck!

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Subject: RE: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15256]


Agreed.  I have no problem with questions like this.  Being a good engineer
has a lot to do with things which are *not* on the CCIE Lab checklist, and
it never hurts to color outside the lines now and then.


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Subject: Re: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15253]


lighten up

Andrew Lennon wrote:

 @!#$ OFF

 This has sod all to do with passing the CCIE exam!

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 Kenny Sallee
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 Subject: Dedicated T1 to Japan

 Does anyone here know the approximate cost of a dedicated T1 from the
 west
 coast to Japan.  Doesn't need to be exact I just need rough numbers.  I
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RE: Passed CIT now CCNP [7:15279]

2001-08-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Congratulations Travis,

Any good advise for the CIT without breaking the agreement?

Thanks,

Ole

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:16 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Passed CIT now CCNP [7:15279]


Team,

I just passed my last exam for CCNP status.  I would like to thank everybody
for their help and encouragement.  Now I'm off to studying for the CCIE
written.  Any suggestions would be appreciated.


Travis




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RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]

2001-08-08 Thread Murphy, Brian J SITI-ISET-31

Patrick,
This just means that the port lost a connection to the end device, it's
possible that its cause by a pc being rebooted, unlikely a duplex mismatch,
or config, could be NIC or cable.
Best thing is to set it to auto and see what happens, remember if you have
one side auto and the other hard coded then the auto will ALWAYS be
half-duplex.

Brian

 -Original Message-
From:   Patrick Donlon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:33 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]

I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
cable or mis-configuration.
How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

cheers Pat




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RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]

2001-08-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Yes,

http://www.boson.com has downloadable tests with a small amount of free
questions. To get the full version(s), you will only have to pay $29.95 per
test.

These tests are usually harder than the real Cisco test, so if you do good
here, you shouldn't have any problems at the exam.

Hth,

Ole

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From: Artashes Kalantarian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 9:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284]


Hi All
I am new to this newsgroup
I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month.
Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge?
Thanks




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Re: High CPU Utilization [7:15272]

2001-08-08 Thread John Neiberger

Good grief!  What the heck do you have running on that??  We have six
FastEthernet interfaces, seven T-1 interfaces running frame relay with a
total of about 150 PVCs, four ethernet interfaces, a VIP with an ATM
Port Adapter, huge access-lists, eigrp with lots of neighbors, two T1
point-to-point interfaces, policy routing, a CIP acting as a tn3270
server with hundreds of connections, ip accounting, etc. and if our
router hits even 10% we freak out!

My suggestions:  

1.  If you have long access lists, turn on netflow switching on those
interfaces and also use Turbo ACLs (compiled access lists)

2.  Use CEF and DCEF where you can, fast switching everywhere else.

3.  Send us a copy of show proc cpu when the processor is really busy
so we can get a better idea of the cause.

4.  Is this device being managed by some other device using SNMP? 
Sometimes this can cause high CPU usage, but I haven't seen it happen on
an RSP before.  What RSP are you using?

5.  Use passive-interface statements to stop unnecessary routing
protocol traffic.

6.  Check to see if someone turned on debugging and forgot to turn it
off.

Okay, that's all I can think off this early in the morning.

Good luck!

John

 Nabil Fares  8/8/01 7:54:55 AM 
Greetings,

Any tips on improving high cpu utilization on a Cisco 7500? 

4 T1s
1 HSSI
1 TokenRing Port
2 FastEthernet (Bundled, FEC)

Its running around 54%, any segmentations would be great.

Thanks,

Nabil




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RE: Network Monitoring [7:15271]

2001-08-08 Thread Phillips, Doyle

I don't know about Free but would cheap do?


What's up gold

www.ipswitch.com


Doyle M Phillips
System Monitoring Engineer


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Subject: Network Monitoring [7:15271]

Can anyone recommend a good free network monitoring software.  Thanks.

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Re: CCNA exam [7:15284]

2001-08-08 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the
NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do.
I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in your
budget


- Original Message -
From: Artashes Kalantarian 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM
Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284]


 Hi All
 I am new to this newsgroup
 I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this month.
 Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge?
 Thanks




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RE: High CPU Utilization [7:15272]

2001-08-08 Thread Lopez, Robert

Nabil,

We recently had the same issue on several 7500's and the High CPU
(80-100%)was attributed to code red.  However,  at the onset of our
problems,  we did enable CEF and netflow switching on a few interfaces, via
recommendations from TAC.  That brought the CPU utilization down to 40-50%
instantly.  After cleaning up the code red issues, CPU utilization tapered
down to 25-35%. I love my job!!!

Robert

-Original Message-
From: John Neiberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:42 AM
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Subject: Re: High CPU Utilization [7:15272]


Good grief!  What the heck do you have running on that??  We have six
FastEthernet interfaces, seven T-1 interfaces running frame relay with a
total of about 150 PVCs, four ethernet interfaces, a VIP with an ATM
Port Adapter, huge access-lists, eigrp with lots of neighbors, two T1
point-to-point interfaces, policy routing, a CIP acting as a tn3270
server with hundreds of connections, ip accounting, etc. and if our
router hits even 10% we freak out!

My suggestions:  

1.  If you have long access lists, turn on netflow switching on those
interfaces and also use Turbo ACLs (compiled access lists)

2.  Use CEF and DCEF where you can, fast switching everywhere else.

3.  Send us a copy of show proc cpu when the processor is really busy
so we can get a better idea of the cause.

4.  Is this device being managed by some other device using SNMP? 
Sometimes this can cause high CPU usage, but I haven't seen it happen on
an RSP before.  What RSP are you using?

5.  Use passive-interface statements to stop unnecessary routing
protocol traffic.

6.  Check to see if someone turned on debugging and forgot to turn it
off.

Okay, that's all I can think off this early in the morning.

Good luck!

John

 Nabil Fares  8/8/01 7:54:55 AM 
Greetings,

Any tips on improving high cpu utilization on a Cisco 7500? 

4 T1s
1 HSSI
1 TokenRing Port
2 FastEthernet (Bundled, FEC)

Its running around 54%, any segmentations would be great.

Thanks,

Nabil




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RE: Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam [7:15246]

2001-08-08 Thread Kanthimathi R

Thanks for the info

R.Kanthimathi
Software Engineer
 Infosys - COMMUNICATION   PRODUCT  SERVICES 
 
 Powered by intellect. Driven by values.   
 


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Subject: RE: Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam [7:15246]


Get this book

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02-8099590-2020967

Get Boson exam test1  test2 go thru all links what boson suggests

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RE: syslog server intergration.. with cisco [7:15222]

2001-08-08 Thread Munzir Khan

on your router type

logging buffered  debug
logging  (syslog server ip address)
logging history debugging
logging trap information
logging facility local07 (depanding on critics)


you could go to # mode and use logging ? and see what kind of logging you
want.

Syslog server can be found on BOSON website
try KIWI SYSLOG can be located on www.download.com 

hope this would help you.


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RE: Network Monitoring [7:15271]

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Dixon

This question gets asked often.

The answer?

MRTG.
Get it from Tobias for free at:

http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/

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I don't know about Free but would cheap do?


What's up gold

www.ipswitch.com


Doyle M Phillips
System Monitoring Engineer


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RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]

2001-08-08 Thread Brown, Ricky

Anytime a node connected to that port is shutdown or rebooted you will get
this. If you are having problems with a node that is not doing this. Check
cisco's web site certain type of nic cards dont work with the 10/100
modules. We had the problem and just changed out the node's nic and
everything was fine. You could also just manually put both the port and nic
card speed and duplex mode in manually and see if that works.

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From: Wilson, Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
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Subject: RE: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15250]


I thought these messages appeared whenever a station joins or leaves the
switch - are you sure someone isn't just rebooting their PC?


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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:33 AM
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Subject: Cat 6.5K error messages [7:15241]


I have a cat' that is giving me these messages on the console:

06:02:18 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTFROMSTP:Port 8/48 left bridge port 8/48

06:02:35 MET +02:00 %PAGP-5-PORTTOSTP:Port 8/48 joined bridge port 8/48.

From the CCO I've read that it could be a duplex mis-match, faulty NIC,
cable or mis-configuration.
How can I find out from the switch stat's which is most likely?

cheers Pat




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Re[2]: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)!!!!! [7:15117]

2001-08-08 Thread Perry

Hello Donald,

Wednesday, August 08, 2001, 5:58:48 AM, you wrote:

DBJj Lance those little bluey thingies are called links.
DBJj You got to click on them with your mouse.

DBJj - Original Message -
DBJj From: Lance 
DBJj To: 
DBJj Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 5:23 PM
DBJj Subject: Re: Cisco Books for sale! (Cheap)! [7:15117]


 Are you trying to tell me that the 750 Page second edition book that is
DBJj for
 sale is the same as the 22 Page Pdf file that is on the Cisco site that
DBJj you
 directed me to.

 www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/cisintwk/ito_doc/index.htm

 Uhh...I don't think so ;-)



 Lance

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Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]

2001-08-08 Thread Ken

This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread Jim Newton

How about erase start, then copy start run? Don't know for sure, but it
would make sense.

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Harrison, Michael
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:55 AM
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Subject: RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

I cannot test this yet (I will tonight) but I would try the following:

Enter setup mode; escape from setup; save config.  That should completely
overwrite the current config without reloading.


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Subject: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]


Hello group,

A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's
default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way of
doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while.

Thanks

Albert


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RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

2001-08-08 Thread John Neiberger

These suggestions will not work.  copy start run works just like if
you were in config mode and typed the commands yourself.  If you go to
config mode and type nothing and hit enter, it won't replace your
current config with nothing, it will just do nothing.  

Entering and exiting setup without doing anything will not erase the
running config either, for the same reason.  Setup simply creates a
basic config and then pastes it into the running config.  

The only good way to erase the running config is to erase the startup
config and reload.  If anyone else knows of a way to do it besides
typing or pasting a negative config (no this, no that) please let us
know, I'd love to know the trick.

Regards,
John

 Jim Newton  8/8/01 7:07:30 AM 
How about erase start, then copy start run? Don't know for sure, but
it
would make sense.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:55 AM
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Subject: RE: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]

I cannot test this yet (I will tonight) but I would try the following:

Enter setup mode; escape from setup; save config.  That should
completely
overwrite the current config without reloading.


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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 8:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Subject: What is the quickest way to reload a router? [7:15247]


Hello group,

A quick question. What is the quickest way to reload a router to it's
default config. I use erase nvram and then reload. Is there a way
of
doing this without doing the reload which can take a long while.

Thanks

Albert


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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15308]

2001-08-08 Thread Wright, Jeremy

You use the binary method to actually understand what is going on in the
background. I like it because now after all of the hand written binary
conversions I've done, I can subnet, summarize routes, and write access
lists that permit/block a range all in my head in no time at all. I myself
would not want to get caught in a meeting where the head boss asks what
mask would give me x amount of host and subnets or what would summarize all
of these routes and respond with  I have to go get my computer to do
that. I think he would be much more impressed with a response calculated in
my head or on paper right there with a clear explanation why this is the way
it is. You learn that from binary. Use the subnet calculator as a quick fix
or check. No offense, this is just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From:   Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to
Subnet [7:15306]

This is a study group so I have a question for which I need
some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The
question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared
to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise
is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each
device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing
this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the
arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the
least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to
provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free.
Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to
common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between
binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15311]

2001-08-08 Thread Mark Monica Baker

You may not always have a tool available to calculate for you. I've been 
in several customer meetings where I was required to come up with network 
diagrams, including subnet masks, ad hoc. If I had needed to have them wait 
til I could power up my laptop, then use a program to do the work, it would 
have looked unprofessional and reflected badly upon myself as an engineer 
and my company. The ability to calculate, in your head or on paper, subnet 
masks impresses clients, co-workers and bosses and keeps you sharp 
mentally.

Mark Baker
CCNP looking for a job (but not because I can't calculate subnets in my 
head!)

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From:   Ken [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]

This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using 
a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the 
network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source 
of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: Dedicated T1 to Japan [7:15309]

2001-08-08 Thread R. Scott King

That was COMPLETELY uncalled for.  Yes, it's OT but your response was crass
and did little to promote the purpose of this group.  Find another forum to
prove your lack of intelligence.

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Andrew Lennon
Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2001 6:54 PM
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Subject: RE: Dedicated T1 to Japan


@!#$ OFF

This has sod all to do with passing the CCIE exam!

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Subject: Dedicated T1 to Japan

Does anyone here know the approximate cost of a dedicated T1 from the
west
coast to Japan.  Doesn't need to be exact I just need rough numbers.  I
apologize for being off subject.
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RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]

2001-08-08 Thread Steve Smith

14...bragging rights. Seems like another  If I get a cert everyone will
hire me  mentality.

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If my memory serves me correctly, you must be 18 years of age or its not
valid.

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Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the
NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do.
I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in
your
budget


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To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM
Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284]


 Hi All
 I am new to this newsgroup
 I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this
month.
 Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge?
 Thanks




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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15312]

2001-08-08 Thread Hyde, Lori

Based on your reasoning, I guess you also don't see the point of learning to
do math in your head if you can use a calculator. My kids would love you.
Just my opinion, but learning how to do this in your head forces you to
really learn how it works.  

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From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]


This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15314]

2001-08-08 Thread Wilson, Bradley

Are you allowed to take a subnet calculator into *any* certification test?
If your network is crashing and (for some reason) you need to do some quick
binary math to solve the problem, do you really have time to wait to run
back to your desk and launch (or perhaps even download first) a subnet
calculator program?  Will subnet calculators know enough to ask the
questions that you don't know to ask regarding a given situation?

In my opinion, the only calculator one should depend on for everyday binary
math problems in networking should be the one located between one's ears.
With a little bit of practice, it's dependable, reliable, and takes an
amazingly short time to boot up. ;-)

BJ



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Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]


This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15313]

2001-08-08 Thread Guy Russell

Ive been working with NT for years, and TCP/IP just as long... Developing
sites and deployments...

I personally learned subnetting through binary, and have gotten to the point
that I can calculate quickly in my head...

now this to me is even quicker than opening some program, typing in a few
figures, and getting the answer...

Most people probobly use the calcs etc, but the idea is to make sure you
have an understanding. When going to a client site, and looking at the way
their subnets are set up, I think it is essential to be able to glance at
the environment, and have a good idea if there are any mis configurations of
subnetting. this could quickly rule out something we might not catch right
away... Especially using VLSM...

some may never get to that point, and thats ok too, but you can probobly add
1+1 faster than you can type it in on a calc..



- Original Message -
From: Ken 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:29 AM
Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]


 This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some
education.
 I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is
of
 what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using
a
 program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
 plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the
network
 or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
 It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
 destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source
of
 error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way
to
 calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
 calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
 mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and
decimal
 numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: High CPU Utilization (Sh process cpu) [7:15272]

2001-08-08 Thread Nabil Fares

Hello John,

Here's the sh process cpu output, hope you guys see something am missing.

Thanks.Nabil

sh process cpu
CPU utilization for five seconds: 54%/51%; one minute: 61%; five minutes:
60%
 PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
   1   22284668636 33   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Load Meter
   2  500372   3701300135   0.08%  0.01%  0.00%   0 OSPF Hello
   3 4834472465863  10377   0.00%  0.09%  0.10%   0 Check heaps
   4   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Pool Manager
   5   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Timers
   6  4027   1481   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Serial Backgroun
   74848 5 969600   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 OIR Handler
   8   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC Zone Manager
   9   29096   3340799  8   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC Periodic Tim
  10   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC Seat Manager
  11 2664724   1403918   1898   0.24%  0.10%  0.08%   0 ARP Input
  12   58956682326 86   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 HC Counter Timer
  13   0 3  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 DDR Timers
  14   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Entity MIB API
  15   4 1   4000   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SERIAL A'detect
  16486445 108088   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Microcode Loader
  17   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IP Crashinfo Inp
  18   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 DSX3MIB ll handl
  19  24   3340798 33   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 RSP Background
  202284 55687 41   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Slave Time
  21   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Slave IPC OIR
 --More--
PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  22 720   115   6260   0.00%  0.12%  0.06%   2 Virtual Exec
  23   37400946486 39   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Chassis Daemon
  244372 55688 78   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 RSP Chassis Back
  25   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 MIP Mailbox
  26   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 CT3 Mailbox
  28   33076   3340800  9   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 TRIP Background
  2910446076   9973434   1047   0.40%  0.34%  0.28%   0 IP Input
  30  378200675047560   0.08%  0.01%  0.00%   0 CDP Protocol
  31   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 PPP IP Add Route
  32 404  5546 72   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 MOP Protocols
  33   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 X.25 Encaps Mana
  34   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SSCOP Input
  35   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SSCOP Output
  369148 55689164   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SSCOP Timer
  37  206084 60429   3410   0.00%  0.01%  0.00%   0 IP Background
  38   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ILMI Input
  39   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SNMP Timers
  40   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ILMI Request
  41   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ILMI Response
  42   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ILMI Timer Proce
  43   8 2   4000   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ATM PVC Discover
  44   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ATMSIG DRIVERAPI
 --More-- 
PID  Runtime(ms)  Invoked  uSecs5Sec   1Min   5Min TTY Process
  45 424  3662115   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 TCP Timer
  46 396   231   1714   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 TCP Protocols
  47   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Probe Input

  48   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 RARP Input
  49  332896103557   3214   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 BOOTP Server
  50  172736 55687   3101   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IP Cache Ager
  51   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 PAD InCall
  52   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 X.25 Background
  53   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Socket Timers
  545728 55688102   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 TCP Intercept Ti
  55   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 SPX Input
  56  256944 62858   4087   0.00%  0.01%  0.00%   0 Adj Manager
  57 8823612   4394985   2007   0.32%  0.38%  0.37%   0 CEF process
  58  195320  16689848 11   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 MDFS RP process
  59   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 TC-ATM Proc
  60   0 2  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 Tag Input
  61   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 ISDN Timer
  62   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  0.00%   0 IPC CBus process
  63   0 1  0   0.00%  0.00%  

RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15317]

2001-08-08 Thread Daniel Cotts

So I'm hearing two questions. To rephrase:
a) Why use binary vs decimal when calculating subnets?
b) Why do it manually when programs exist to do the work?

A) Binary makes it easier to view the pattern. A great tutorial is:
http://www.3com.com/solutions/en_US/ncs/501302.html
Also check the GroupStudy archives for comments by Howard Berkowitz who has
taught ip subnetting to many students.

B) Short answer is because the Cisco certification tests require that it be
done manually. Long answer is that practice gives us the ability to move
beyond rote repetition to a deeper understanding. This is true of all phases
of our studies. Watch the postings of the CCIE candidates. They are beyond
configs 'r' us and are exploring the nuances.


 -Original Message-
 From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:30 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15306]
 
 
 This is a study group so I have a question for which I need 
 some education.
 I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The 
 question I have is of
 what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared 
 to just using a
 program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is 
 to produce a
 plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device 
 on the network
 or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing 
 this manually?
 It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the 
 arrival at the
 destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the 
 least source of
 error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to 
 provide a way to
 calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. 
 Doing such
 calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
 mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between 
 binary and decimal
 numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]

2001-08-08 Thread Bolton, Travis

Team,

If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to
Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which would you
do if you had to choose one?  I'll have to try to convince the boss (wife)
one or the other to purchase :-)  Thanks.

Regards,

Travis Bolton
Network Engineer II
CCNP




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Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15319]

2001-08-08 Thread John Neiberger

I disagree wholeheartedly with one of those statements.  In this
business you never really arrive in the first place, so the journey
itself is as important or more important than the destination.  You
learn binary subnetting techniques for the same reason students learn
math without calculators. It's important that you really understand what
is occurring if you want to be a good engineer.

Liken this situation to cars.  If you just want to use the tools
without understanding, then you are a driver only.  If you want to be a
mechanic and know what's happening under the hood, then you have to
learn the stuff the hard way.

Back to reality for a bit.  As far as subnetting is concerned, it's
very difficult to understand what's happening without learning it in
binary.  Once you've learned it, though, it's not really necessary to do
it in binary because you'll have plenty of shortcuts in your head that
bypass--yet still rely on--the binary math you learned previously.

Just my $.02...

John

 Ken  8/8/01 10:29:45 AM 
This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some
education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have
is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just
using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to
produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the
network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this
manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at
the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least
source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a
way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing
such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and
decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]

2001-08-08 Thread Harrison, Michael

It seems like a much better use of time to me than playing PS2 or posting on
the NSync fan board.

If I had time warped into a 14 year old I may do the same thing.  Being a
CCIE at 18-20 would not be a very bad way to start a working career.
Bragging rights or not ambition and goals are not something that should be
discouraged in a young person, especially here.

Quoted from the Cisco Career Certifications Agreement V.7
2.3 Minors.  in the event that the Certification Candidate is a minor, he
or she may not submit this Agreement electronically, but must manually sign
and date the Agreement, have the Agreement manually signed and dated by his
or her legal guardian, and send a signed original copy to Cisco via first
class mail.  In the event Certification Candidate misrepresents their age
all Cisco certifications shall be immediately revoked.

Artashes, use the Boson, good luck, and let us know how you do.


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14...bragging rights. Seems like another  If I get a cert everyone will
hire me  mentality.

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Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 10:45 AM
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Subject: RE: CCNA exam [7:15284]


If my memory serves me correctly, you must be 18 years of age or its not
valid.

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Donald B Johnson jr
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Subject: Re: CCNA exam [7:15284]


Why would a 14 year old take an exam. I don't think you can agree to the
NDA. But good luck, let us know how you do.
I would recommend the Boson tests #1 that should do you fine and fit in
your
budget


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To:
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 7:23 AM
Subject: CCNA exam [7:15284]


 Hi All
 I am new to this newsgroup
 I am 14 and I am going to take the CCNA exam on the middle of this
month.
 Can anybody suggest me tests that I can use for checking my knowledge?
 Thanks
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Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]

2001-08-08 Thread John Neiberger

That's yet another thing I forgot to mention.  I got the one-year
subscription to CertificationZone.  But since I haven't used the Boson
tests I can't compare them.  The CertificationZone subscription turned
out to be very helpful and the practice tests are more difficult than
the real written exam.

HTH,
John

 Bolton, Travis  8/8/01 11:17:14 AM

Team,

If you had a choice between getting a 6 month subscription to
Certificationzone.com or buying all three of the Boson Exams which
would you
do if you had to choose one?  I'll have to try to convince the boss
(wife)
one or the other to purchase :-)  Thanks.

Regards,

Travis Bolton
Network Engineer II
CCNP




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RE: Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam Books [7:15324]

2001-08-08 Thread Albert Y. Pak

I passed BCRAN 2 hours ago with 887. I used BCRAN book from Cisco Press.
Make sure you know all the router models in differences, ie. 2500 series is
a fixed configuration and you can't upgrade. Also, make sure you know most
of the dialer commands and how to debug. 62 questions in my exam and there
is about 20 questions on the command line, 25 questions on ISDN + Frame
Relay and remaining are T1, UTRS references point, aaa, tacaus+ and X.25.
Good luck!
Albert


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[7:15246]


hi,

Can NE 1 recommend me @ CCNP - Remote Access Exam Books  model test
sources

Thanks,


R.Kanthimathi
Software Engineer
 Infosys - COMMUNICATION   PRODUCT  SERVICES
 
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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15322]

2001-08-08 Thread Puckett, Larry (TIFPC)

Also, the question is structured to assume that we are only configuring a
router. As techs, we spend a lot of time troubleshooting with time
pressures. Knowing this stuff as well as Jeremy describes not only helps you
keep your focus instead of stopping to use the calculator but increases
accuracy and saves time as well.  

Larry. 

 -Original Message-
From:   Wright, Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet
[7:15308]

You use the binary method to actually understand what is going on in the
background. I like it because now after all of the hand written binary
conversions I've done, I can subnet, summarize routes, and write access
lists that permit/block a range all in my head in no time at all. I myself
would not want to get caught in a meeting where the head boss asks what
mask would give me x amount of host and subnets or what would summarize all
of these routes and respond with  I have to go get my computer to do
that. I think he would be much more impressed with a response calculated in
my head or on paper right there with a clear explanation why this is the way
it is. You learn that from binary. Use the subnet calculator as a quick fix
or check. No offense, this is just my opinion.

-Original Message-
From:   Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to
Subnet [7:15306]

This is a study group so I have a question for which I need
some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The
question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared
to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise
is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each
device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing
this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the
arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the
least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to
provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free.
Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to
common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between
binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15325]

2001-08-08 Thread Phil Barker

Why learn how to spell when we can look words up in a
dictionary ?
Why learn mental arithmetic when we can use a
calculator ?

Why learn about '1' and '0', its just the fundamental
basis of modern computing ?

Therefore why learn sunetting via the binary method ?

What happens on that really big job your doing for
$200/hr and your subnet calculator breaks but you
still need to come up with the goods ?

Answer : I get your job.

Phil.






 --- Ken  wrote:  This is a study
group so I have a question for which
 I need some education.
 I am not looking for a flame war, just education.
 The question I have is of
 what use is the binary math method of subnetting as
 compared to just using a
 program that does subnetting? If the point to the
 exercise is to produce a
 plan for subnetting that can then be entered into
 each device on the network
 or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved
 by doing this manually?
 It seems to me that the point is not the journey,
 but the arrival at the
 destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible,
 with the least source of
 error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool
 is to provide a way to
 calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and
 error free. Doing such
 calculations manually is time consuming and
 susceptible to common
 mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions
 between binary and decimal
 numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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Re: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15326]

2001-08-08 Thread Peter Van Oene

Sometimes when I make bank deposits I forget my calculator.  In actual fact
I don't own a calculator and bringing my laptop to the ATM to add up the
money sees odd to me.  It is in cases like this that I use my brain.   I've
also had to quickly rebuild routed networks to avoid downtime and in the
process calculate numerous subnets.  Stopping to load up some application
instead of using my brain sees equally odd.  To properly understand data
networking, you need to know binary.

I suppose if the goal is how can to pass exams without actually learning
anything I'd say you've got the right attitude for it.

Please note its 40+ Celsius here in toronto and a show proc aggravation
displays a scary number.



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On 8/8/2001 at 12:29 PM Ken wrote:

This is a study group so I have a question for which I need some
education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared to just using
a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each device on the
network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the least source
of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free. Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?




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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15329]

2001-08-08 Thread Wright, Jeremy

I think mine may take a little longer to boot up, especially on Mondays

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From:   Wilson, Bradley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent:   Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:10 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be
Used to Subnet [7:15314]

Are you allowed to take a subnet calculator into *any*
certification test?
If your network is crashing and (for some reason) you need
to do some quick
binary math to solve the problem, do you really have time to
wait to run
back to your desk and launch (or perhaps even download
first) a subnet
calculator program?  Will subnet calculators know enough to
ask the
questions that you don't know to ask regarding a given
situation?

In my opinion, the only calculator one should depend on for
everyday binary
math problems in networking should be the one located
between one's ears.
With a little bit of practice, it's dependable, reliable,
and takes an
amazingly short time to boot up. ;-)

BJ



-Original Message-
From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet
[7:15306]


This is a study group so I have a question for which I need
some education.
I am not looking for a flame war, just education. The
question I have is of
what use is the binary math method of subnetting as compared
to just using a
program that does subnetting? If the point to the exercise
is to produce a
plan for subnetting that can then be entered into each
device on the network
or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved by doing
this manually?
It seems to me that the point is not the journey, but the
arrival at the
destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible, with the
least source of
error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool is to
provide a way to
calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and error free.
Doing such
calculations manually is time consuming and susceptible to
common
mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions between
binary and decimal
numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]

2001-08-08 Thread Sean C.

Hi Travis,

Without trying to get flamed, I have to ask what you really want to do -
learn the stuff or just get a passing on the CCIE written?  If you want to
learn, CZone is great (how can you go wrong with experts like Howard giving
the explanations).  But if you just want to get that passing grade on the
written - go with Boson.  I bought Boson tests 1 and 2, took the CCIE
written and had 44 questions out of the 100 that were on the CCIE that were
also on the 2 Boson exams (even down to the same diagrams and wrong
answers).  So basically, I started out with a 44 before even starting on the
CCIE (unless the Boson test was wrong).  In the long run - I would go with
CZone.  I use CZone everyday for my lab studies - haven't touched Boson once
since passing the CCIE written.

HTH,
Sean C.

CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
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BGP: IBGP usage/clarification [7:15333]

2001-08-08 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

This might sound like a stupid question, but I have now read and practised a
lot of BGP stuff, but there's one thing I am not 100% sure I understand;
None of the books have been able to put the last brick in place in the
puzzle for me.

In what situations will end-user companies use IBGP and not just an IGP as
OSPF or EIGRP?

I believe that most ISP's use IBGP with a full mess where there are more
than one EBGP connection - right?

And a question to those of you who do a lot of BGP setup's for customers,
how often do you typically use BGP at end-user companies and how often
will IBGP be used there with or without an IGR running on their network(s)?

Thanks for any comments on this,

Ole

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RE: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used to Subnet [7:15332]

2001-08-08 Thread Phil Barker

SNIP
With a little bit of practice, it's dependable,
reliable, and takes an
amazingly short time to boot up. ;-)
END SNIP

I've been known to take upto 12 hours to boot up when
I've got too much blood in the alcohol stream.

Phil.

--- Wilson, Bradley  wrote:  Are
you allowed to take a subnet calculator into
 *any* certification test?
 If your network is crashing and (for some reason)
 you need to do some quick
 binary math to solve the problem, do you really have
 time to wait to run
 back to your desk and launch (or perhaps even
 download first) a subnet
 calculator program?  Will subnet calculators know
 enough to ask the
 questions that you don't know to ask regarding a
 given situation?
 
 In my opinion, the only calculator one should depend
 on for everyday binary
 math problems in networking should be the one
 located between one's ears.
 With a little bit of practice, it's dependable,
 reliable, and takes an
 amazingly short time to boot up. ;-)
 
 BJ
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ken [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 12:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Why Should the Binary Math Method Be Used
 to Subnet [7:15306]
 
 
 This is a study group so I have a question for which
 I need some education.
 I am not looking for a flame war, just education.
 The question I have is of
 what use is the binary math method of subnetting as
 compared to just using a
 program that does subnetting? If the point to the
 exercise is to produce a
 plan for subnetting that can then be entered into
 each device on the network
 or into a DHCP server setup, what else is achieved
 by doing this manually?
 It seems to me that the point is not the journey,
 but the arrival at the
 destination. Indeed arrival as quickly as possible,
 with the least source of
 error. As Cisco even says; The purpose of this tool
 is to provide a way to
 calculate IP subnetting which is fast, easy, and
 error free. Doing such
 calculations manually is time consuming and
 susceptible to common
 mathematical mistakes, especially in conversions
 between binary and decimal
 numbers. So what is it I am not understanding?
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Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]

2001-08-08 Thread Guy Russell

What is CZONE???

What is the internet address???


- Original Message -
From: Sean C. 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2001 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: What to buy for CCIE written Poll [7:15318]


 Hi Travis,

 Without trying to get flamed, I have to ask what you really want to do -
 learn the stuff or just get a passing on the CCIE written?  If you want to
 learn, CZone is great (how can you go wrong with experts like Howard
giving
 the explanations).  But if you just want to get that passing grade on the
 written - go with Boson.  I bought Boson tests 1 and 2, took the CCIE
 written and had 44 questions out of the 100 that were on the CCIE that
were
 also on the 2 Boson exams (even down to the same diagrams and wrong
 answers).  So basically, I started out with a 44 before even starting on
the
 CCIE (unless the Boson test was wrong).  In the long run - I would go with
 CZone.  I use CZone everyday for my lab studies - haven't touched Boson
once
 since passing the CCIE written.

 HTH,
 Sean C.

 CCNP, CCDP, MCSE
 Email:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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