RE: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium?? [7:16452]

2001-08-20 Thread Yonkerbonk

I have PPTP running fine with Win2K. I had it working
on 5.3 and am now running 6.1. I recently upgraded to
DES but haven't tried using IPSec.

Michael Le, CCIE #6811

--- Rik Guyler  wrote:
> Yes, PIX supports PPTP acording to CCO.  However, I
> became frustrated with
> PPTP as each version of Windows offers different
> options and interacts with
> the PIX in a different manner.  In other words, I
> have set this up and made
> it work most of the times I tried, but this one
> time, in band camp
> 
> Now, my experience is with the 5.x code and maybe,
> just maybe, it's better
> with the 6.x code as this now seems to be the trendy
> way to provide remote
> access.  Despite this, I really recommend purchasing
> the VPN client.  The
> 100-user license retails for around $250.
> 
> BTW - It used to be that the PPTP configs for the
> PIX on CCO were flawed.
> Maybe this is still the same, maybe not.
> 
> ---
> Rik Guyler
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium??
> [7:16452]
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to set up a VPN
> using either Windows 2000
> or Millennium to connect to a corporate PIX without
> using any Cisco client
> software?
> 
> I believe it is possible but haven't had any luck in
> getting it to work.
> 
> I have it working great using NT with the Cisco
> Secure VPN client, which
> unfortunately doesn't run on the newer versions of
> Windows. I've also been
> told this is because the newer versions of Windows
> don't need it as they
> have this capability built in.
> 
> I've done the usual setting up the VPN part on
> Windows but to my mind there
> seems to be a lot of options missing that would
> allow you to get it to work
> properly, such as ESP and AHP settings, etc.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Andy
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640-504 Examsim Question [7:16526]

2001-08-20 Thread maurice yu

Dear All, Please help and see what are the best answers for the following
question: (Q) After an acquisition, your company's IP network was
renumbered. What are two possible reasons why you don't get traps anymore
from the devices? [FORM NOT SHOWN]



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RE: Solution for loopback interfaces. [7:16527]

2001-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dear Mr Junos,

I am Dheerendra from India...

As per your query regarding loopback interfaces.I have found some suitable
info for your loopback interfaces.

The answer to your question 1 is that you can create more than 2 loopback
interfaces.Infact the the total number of loopback interfaces that can be
created is from 0-0-2147483647

The answer to your question 2 is how to create loopback interfaces is as
follows:
1.login to the reqd router
2.enter into the enable mode
3.type the following command  

The following will give you the exact idea of what exactly do you mean by
loopback interface:

You can specify a software-only interface called a loopback interface to
emulate an interface. It is supported on all platforms. A loopback interface
is a virtual interface that is always up and allows Border Gateway Protocol
(BGP) and remote source-route bridging (RSRB) sessions to stay up even if
the outbound interface is down.

You can use the loopback interface as the termination address for BGP
sessions, for RSRB connections, or to establish a Telnet session from the
device's console to its auxiliary port when all other interfaces are down.
You can also use a loopback interface to configure IPX-PPP on asynchronous
interfaces. To do so, you must associate an asynchronous interface with a
loopback interface configured to run IPX. In applications where other
routers or access servers attempt to reach this loopback interface, you
should configure a routing protocol to distribute the subnet assigned to the
loopback address.

Packets routed to the loopback interface are rerouted back to the router or
access server and processed locally. IP packets routed out the loopback
interface but not destined to the loopback interface are dropped. This means
that the loopback interface serves as the Null 0 interface also.

Dheerendra V Deshpande
Project Engineer
Global TeleSystems Ltd
Wadala,Mumbai
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Load Balancing between 2 unequal links using BGP [7:16528]

2001-08-20 Thread suaveguru

Hi all,,

wonder if anyone knows how to do load-balancing across
2 unequal links using bgp ?

regards,

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Policy routing [7:16529]

2001-08-20 Thread Rodel P Hipolito

Hey guys,

Can u help me on this?

I have a 2610, and i have 2 leased line, is there a way that i can
balance the load?

thanks




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RE: traceroute [7:16494]

2001-08-20 Thread Dheerendra Deshpande

The only solution to you problem wud be Please press the shift+ctrl+^ key
simultaneously and I am sure you can interrupt the traceroute

Thanx

regds
dheeru


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support for CAR [7:16531]

2001-08-20 Thread suaveguru

HI ALL

anyone knows what version of IOS , router platform and
minimum flash memor or DRAM able to support CAR in
cisco IOS s/w


any input will be greatly appreciated


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RE: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]

2001-08-20 Thread Chris Clark

The issue comes up when you are using NT or AD as the back-end. Then a user
comes in remotely to authenticate with ppp or vpn. If the password has just
expired, then they will not be able to login.


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Subject: Re: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]


So far the password changing issue is really the only limitation of ACS that
we found, but if you use it to intersect with the same database that your
desktops login to (ADS for example) then your password changes will be taken
care of.

>From: "Chris Clark" 
>Reply-To: "Chris Clark" 
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]
>Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:53:29 -0400
>
>Depends on what you are using it for. It can do a lot of different things.
>The main gotcha is that it can not handle password changes very well.
>
>
>""Stepp Harless""  wrote in message
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> > Does anyone have any experience good or bad with Cisco Secure Access
>Control
> > for Windows NT/2000? Are there any gottchas that I need to be aware of?
>I
>am
> > trying to get approval to purchase this product but managment wants me
>to
> > get opinions from someone else besides Cisco.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> >
> > Harles
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DS3 Question [7:16533]

2001-08-20 Thread Scarlett Tony

Hi,
I have been reading the threads in this group for several months now and
trying to pass the ccnp exams.
I now find myself stuck and would like to turn to the group for input.
My question is...what type of interface or WIC would I use to hook to a
DS3 line? eg, Wic T-1 + 2621= T1, external dsu +1005= 56k frame, ? =
DS3.
I have a 7206 and a 2621 either of which I can use to hook to the DS3 (
if they will) if I can figure out the hardware and cant seem to find any
info on the appropriate hardware for the job, if someone could point me
in the right direction I really appreciate it.
 
 
T. P. Scarlett
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Re: Real world OSPF design dilemma (Longish) [7:16341]

2001-08-20 Thread Bob Timmons

Thanks for the input.  We did the upgrade this weekend and all went well.

Bob

> I should have limited that to one big area vs one big area 0.  I'm all for
> single areas when they suit, but I agree that using a non zero area can
have
> some benefits.
>
> *** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
>
> On 8/17/2001 at 10:24 AM Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
>
> >>I'm not sure where you got the idea that one big area zero is a bad
> >thing?
> >
> >Me, as one example.
> >
> >But let me make an important distinction, borrowing from George Orwell
> >
> > Four legs good   One big area not necessarily bad
> > Two legs bad One big area zero bad
> >
> >If you have a moderate number of routers without any obvious
> >hierarchy, a single area can make perfectly good sense.  I do
> >recommend, however, numbering that area ANYTHING but 0.0.0.0.
> >
> >You don't need your first area to be 0.0.0.0.  But if later company
> >growth, mergers/acquisitions/divestitures, etc., mean that hierarchy
> >becomes appropriate, your second area MUST be 0.0.0.0, and the third,
> >etc., are nonzero.
> >If you start by numbering all the routers in the One Big Area in
> >0.0.0.0, that means that you will need to renumber the network
> >statements when you grow.  Making the One Big Area 0.0.0.1 won't hurt
> >anything and will make things much more flexible with respect to
> >future requirements.
> >
> >Incidentally, in a multivendor conversion like this, be sure to
> >specify area numbers and router IDs explicitly and in four-octet
> >format -- in other words, area 0.0.0.1, not area 1.  Not all vendors
> >interpret area numbers in the same way -- Bay RS, in some versions,
> >would convert "area 1" to "area 1.0.0.0."  3Com's default router ID,
> >on some platforms, was derived through some strange algorithm based
> >on part of an interface MAC address.
> >
> >See other comments inline.
> >
> >>
> >>In this case, I would highly recommend it.  This is a pretty small
network
> >>and I really don't see the benefit of adding hierarchy to it from a
> >>multi-area perspective.  Keep in mind that the more you segment an OSPF
> >area
> >>into sub-areas, the more link state qualities you forego.  I'd go with
> >your
> >>boss on this one.
> >>
> >>Pete
> >>
> >>
> >>*** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***
> >>
> >>On 8/17/2001 at 12:17 AM Bob Timmons wrote:
> >>
> >>>Greetings all,
> >>>
> >>>We're converting our 3Com router world to Cisco soon and I have a
> >question
> >>>regarding the OSPF design.  I'm including a link to a JPG in case
anyone
> >>>wants to add their 2 cents.  You can see it at:
> >>>
> >>>http://members.tripod.com/~bobtimmons/network-1.jpg
> >>>
> >>>This is a somewhat simplistic view of our network and the IP's aren't
> >real,
> >>>but I'm hoping it makes sense regardless.  We currently have a full T1
> >to a
> >>>frame cloud and our other 2 main buildings are off of that cloud as
well,
> >>>one is 1M, the other is the balance of the T.  Both of the remote sites
> >are
> >>>pointing to the 1 PVC at our main site.  My question is, would this
OSPF
> >>>network work?  I know the OBAZ, (One Big Area Zero - Wow! My first
> >>>acronym! - Hey Howard, feel free to use that one), is frowned upon, but
> >>>that's how my boss wants it, because that's how it is now.  Not good
> >logic,
> >>>but I have to follow orders sometimes.
> >>>
> >>>A note:  We have other sites off of the main site (Site 1) in another
> >Frame
> >>>Cloud.  It shouldn't affect what we're doing here, though.
> >>>
> >>>Also, I didn't include the IPX networks on the Ethernet ports.  That's
> >not
> >>>a
> >>>real issue right now.
> >>>
> >>>Specifically, I'm unsure about using the Loopbacks.  We're going to use
> >>>them
> >>>for our DLSW (not pictured) links.  What I'm unsure about is, can I use
> >>>these addresses, as given, with their masks, and distribute them via
OSPF
> >>>and have it work?
> >
> >
> >Yes, you can distribute loopbacks just fine.
> >
> >>  >
> >>>If I'm completely off here, please feel free to let me know.
> >>>
> >>>I'm including the proposed configs (snipped)
> >>>
> >>>Thanks!
> >>>
> >>>
> >>  >Site1 -




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ip default-network [7:16535]

2001-08-20 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing table .
For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and BGP
running
Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
 Deault network :192.181.35.0
Default network: 192.140.0.0

Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0

All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network in
the routing table.

Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given , which
one of them will be listed in the routing table as "gateway of last resort"
when one sees using the command "show ip route" . And pls tell me on what
basis the  particular network will be choosen as "gateway of last resort"

Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for meThanks.
Vijendra




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Re: support for CAR [7:16531]

2001-08-20 Thread Bob Timmons

Check out www.cisco.com/go/fn for the Feature Navigator at Cisco.

(e.g. v12.0(5)t will run on a 2500 with 4MB RAM & 8MB Flash and it runs
CAR.)

> HI ALL
>
> anyone knows what version of IOS , router platform and
> minimum flash memor or DRAM able to support CAR in
> cisco IOS s/w
>
>
> any input will be greatly appreciated
>
>
> regards,
> suaveguru
>
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SNMP Qestion. [7:16537]

2001-08-20 Thread NK Sat

Guys i am not able to get a good answer on this issue which i have posted 
last week. Can somebody PLEASE help me in the following

1) How to write to the Cisco running config via SNMP read-write access ?
2) do i need any software for it and is there a free downloadable version i 
can try ?
3)Can i modify the ACL on the running config Via SNMP>
i am able to see the config via pingpropack of ipswitch.com

I need to do this as i screwed the ACL but the router CANNOT be rebooted.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Sat


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Re: Hub to Hub through 2600 [7:16328]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

You can't do full on a hub.  Put your routers back to half and it will 
probably work.  If not, make sure your workstations didn't auto-screwup 
and go full as well.

Mike

Sammi wrote:
> I have the router interfaces on full/100, perhaps I'll move it to
> auto, same as the workstations are.
> I have moved equipment, swapped cables, haven't seen anything
> suspicous. I lose link lights on the hub and on the router, just
> doesn't come back soon's I go to the second hub. 
> I'm not at the office, but I don't believe the hub has cachine
> capability.
> 
> I will try putting the interfaces into auto tomorrow, thanks all!
> 
> On 16 Aug 2001 22:18:56 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Mark & Monica
> Baker") wrote:
> 
> 
>>Have you tried moving things around to see if the problem follows any
piece
>>of equipment? Maybe a bad cable, bad port on hub, or speed/duplex
mismatch.
>>Have you tried rebooting router after adding hub? Do you lose link lights 
>>on the hub (and if so, is it just where the router plugs in, or on the 
>>workstations?) or the router or both? Could the original hub be caching
the
>>MAC of the router port that was plugged into it and think it's still on
the
>>original port, instead of moved to another hub?
>>
>>Mark
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: Sammi [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 9:27 PM
>>To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Subject:  Hub to Hub through 2600 [7:16328]
>>
>>Hello,
>>I just received a 2616 router. I set it up through the initial boot
>>screen:
>>
>>SubA - 0/0 10.100.1.1 /16
>>SubB - 0/1 10.200.1.1 /16
>>
>>Everything works fine if both interfaces are connected, via straight
>>cable, to a 3Com 10/100 hub. Can ping either interface from either
>>subnet, all machines on each subnet can ping any machine on other
>>subnet.
>>
>>However, when I try to go with two hubs, one for each subnet, I can no
>>longer communicate. Have assured I'm not on uplink, have tried uplink,
>>am sure no problems with hub (new out of box, and working in other
>>configs).
>>
>>If I have both Subs hooked up to one hub, all link lights are green.
>>If I move one of the interfaces to the other hub, no link light.
>>
>>Am I missing something? I'm sure it's something simple but heck if I
>>know.
>>
>>Any help greatly appreciated.




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Re: Fob ??? [7:16224]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

The Key Fob version of the Secure ID stuff is a little token card that 
goes on your keychain.  The little strip of leather that's on your 
keychain?  It's a Fob.  If it's not leather, it may take the shape of a 
beer bottle opener.

-me

Art Barrera wrote:
> All,
> 
> Working with Secure ID Service and was wondering -
> 
> Does "Fob" in Key Fob stand for anything when referencing a Token?  Weird
> word/acronym (it)...
> 
> Thanks,
> Art




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Re: DS3 Question [7:16533]

2001-08-20 Thread Engelhard M. Labiro

This URL may help you :
http://www.cisco.com/pcgi-bin/front.x/newConfig/config_root.pl

HTH
- Original Message -
From: "Scarlett Tony" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:31 PM
Subject: DS3 Question [7:16533]


> Hi,
> I have been reading the threads in this group for several months now and
> trying to pass the ccnp exams.
> I now find myself stuck and would like to turn to the group for input.
> My question is...what type of interface or WIC would I use to hook to a
> DS3 line? eg, Wic T-1 + 2621= T1, external dsu +1005= 56k frame, ? =
> DS3.
> I have a 7206 and a 2621 either of which I can use to hook to the DS3 (
> if they will) if I can figure out the hardware and cant seem to find any
> info on the appropriate hardware for the job, if someone could point me
> in the right direction I really appreciate it.
>
>
> T. P. Scarlett
> CCNA




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Re: ip default-network [7:16535]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

All routes that match the default network will get tagged as default 
candidates.  As with most routing decisions, the best route wins and 
gets set as the gateway of last resort.  If that entry goes away, the 
second one takes it place, and so forth, until you are out of default 
candidates.

-me

Vijendra Jaiswal wrote:
> Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
> default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing table .
> For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and BGP
> running
> Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
>  Deault network :192.181.35.0
> Default network: 192.140.0.0
> 
> Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
> Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0
> 
> All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
> default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network in
> the routing table.
> 
> Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given ,
which
> one of them will be listed in the routing table as "gateway of last resort"
> when one sees using the command "show ip route" . And pls tell me on what
> basis the  particular network will be choosen as "gateway of last resort"
> 
> Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for meThanks.
> Vijendra




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Rapid spanning-tree 802.1w [7:16524]

2001-08-20 Thread Semion Lisyansky

Hi List,

As far as I understand UplinkFast/BackboneFast are partial
implementation of 802.1w, Does Cisco has full implementation
of rapid spanning-tree 802.1w? If yes, in which product, where
can I get some more info about those products?
Please cc me directly 'cause I'm a digest subscriber.

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help, catalyst 5500 console connectivity. [7:16523]

2001-08-20 Thread Anand Ghody

I just bought a catalyst 5505 from ebay and I am having trouble with the
console port.  I am using one of the console cables that I use with some
other cisco routers.  My hyperterminal terminal setting are
9600-8-none-1, no flow control.  the switch when booted goes through its
diagnostics and boots fine. everything looks good except I can not
connect to it to configure it.  Do the cataylst use a pinout different
than that of a router. Any one got any ideas?




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Re: ip default-network [7:16535]

2001-08-20 Thread Vijendra Jaiswal

My query is still  unanswered !!

As Michael worte " the best route wins and gets set as the gateway of last
resort"
Of the example i wrote abt how does one which route will be the gateway of
last resort .
Vijendra.


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> All routes that match the default network will get tagged as default
> candidates.  As with most routing decisions, the best route wins and
> gets set as the gateway of last resort.  If that entry goes away, the
> second one takes it place, and so forth, until you are out of default
> candidates.
>
> -me
>
> Vijendra Jaiswal wrote:
> > Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
> > default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing
table .
> > For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and
BGP
> > running
> > Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
> >  Deault network :192.181.35.0
> > Default network: 192.140.0.0
> >
> > Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
> > Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0
> >
> > All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
> > default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network
in
> > the routing table.
> >
> > Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given ,
> which
> > one of them will be listed in the routing table as "gateway of last
resort"
> > when one sees using the command "show ip route" . And pls tell me on
what
> > basis the  particular network will be choosen as "gateway of last
resort"
> >
> > Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for
meThanks.
> > Vijendra




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Re: CCIE R/S Lab lead time in Brussels [7:16491]

2001-08-20 Thread Kolesnikov Paul

Hello all,
 
 Cisco change format of CCIE Lab Exam (single extended day) and Cisco say
that "... new format will result in additional lab seat opening so
candidates will then have the opportunity to schedule an earlier lab date."
Adam Obszynski wrote:
> 
> Hello Shahir,
> 
> > Does anyone know what's the current lead time for booking the
> CCIE R/S lab
> > in Brussels?
> > TIA
> 
> Today, you may register for May 2002 8-((
> 
> -- 
> Adam Obszyqski
> 
> 




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HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]

2001-08-20 Thread kwock99

Hi All,

Anyone knows what is the benefit to use the command "standby use-bia" in HSRP
rather than the Virtual Mac Address.

Thanks.

Francis Tsui




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Re: Load Balancing between 2 unequal links using BGP [7:16528]

2001-08-20 Thread Tony Medeiros

Many ways: And it all depends on your exact setup,  dual homed with same
provider, two providers, one edge router or two, etc.

Incoming traffic:
MEDS (you control if provider excepts them)
AS-PATH stuffing for certain networks.

Outgoing traffic:
Weight.
Local preference.
Statics

All of these require a lot of analysis and thought.  You just don't turn
them on.  But it's all do-able.  Get my favorite little BGP book on these
type of setups.
"BGP4 Inter-Domain Routing in the Internet. ISBN: 0201379511
This easy to read book will give some good understanding about what has to
happen without haveing to become a BGP guru.

Tony M.
#6172


> Hi all,,
>
> wonder if anyone knows how to do load-balancing across
> 2 unequal links using bgp ?
>
> regards,
>
> suaveguru
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Re: Used Rack [7:15897]

2001-08-20 Thread Joseph Magann

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Re: Load Balancing between 2 unequal links using BGP [7:16528]

2001-08-20 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

>Hi all,,
>
>wonder if anyone knows how to do load-balancing across
>2 unequal links using bgp ?

BGP isn't designed to load-balance.  That being said, you may be able 
to get some reasonable degree of load splitting using more-specific 
addresses, communities, MEDs, etc.  It is _not_ a beginner's task and 
requires significant knowledge of global routing policy.

>
>regards,
>
>suaveguru




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Re: a little OT: appletalk [7:16430]

2001-08-20 Thread Dave Caplinger

You have 3 alternatives:

1) Change the server: Make the Win2K server talk AppleShare/IP (File 
Services for Macintosh does not do this; it only talks AppleTalk, but 
you can purchase 3rd party products to add AppleShare over IP 
functionality.)  Then, your Mac clients will have to enter the IP 
address of the server in their Chooser.

2) Change the client: Make the Macs talk NetBEUI over TCP/IP (such as by 
adding "DAVE" to each and every Mac that needs to talk to that server)

3) Change the network: tunnel AppleTalk inside of IP so it will pass 
through the PIX.  You'll have to terminate the tunnel end points on 
AppleTalk-capable routers on the internal networks off of the "inside" 
interface of each PIX (since the PIX knows nothing about AppleTalk). 
 Those endpoints will have to have static address translation through 
the PIX, the PIX will have to be configured to allow GRE traffic to 
them, and in the router configs you have to specify the *public* (i.e. 
translated) IP address of the remote endpoint

Naturally there are pros and cons to each.  If your needs are strictly 
related to file service access (and not printing!) to the Win2K box at 
the far site, option 1 is probably your best bet.  If you have a very 
small number of client Macs, then go with option 2.  If your needs are 
more complicated (for example, the Macs would like to print to the 
remote site, or access other AppleTalk services as well) then go with 
option 3, which means that you don't have to modify any of the servers 
or clients.

Without getting into a religious debate about the merits of AppleTalk, 
just keep in mind that if you do tunnel, consider what impact this will 
have on your VPN bandwidth.  (Clearly, there will be *some* impact 
regardless of whether you view that to be good or bad. :-)

Good luck!

- Dave

Jim Bond wrote:

>Hello,
>
>I have 2 offices connected each other with PIX running
>VPN. office1 has Mac users, office2 has a w2k server.
>Is there a way to have office1 Mac users access
>office2 w2k server? I already enabled File Service for
>Macintosh on the w2k server. 
>
>I was told Appletalk must be enabled for Mac users to
>access w2k server, so should I use Appletalk AND
>TCP/IP or TCP/IP only?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Jim




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Need help with Microflow Switching! [7:16549]

2001-08-20 Thread Shojayi Joe

I need help setting up Microflow switching. I have a 6506 with a sup1a-ge,
it has the MSFC and PFC in it. I can't get it to use Microflow switching.
I'm trying to set our customers to a certain bandwidth limit, but it won't
engage at all. If anyone can be of help, please let me knoow. If you have
some questions for me, please ask! Thank you.

Joe


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Re: HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]

2001-08-20 Thread Tony Medeiros

It used to be used to get around a bug in MSFC code.  Otherwise,  It depends
on clients being able to accept a gratuitious ARP which some hosts don't
understand. or might miss..

No advantage that I can think of off hand
Tony

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To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:08 AM
Subject: HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]


> Hi All,
>
> Anyone knows what is the benefit to use the command "standby use-bia" in
HSRP
> rather than the Virtual Mac Address.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Francis Tsui




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cat5500 console [7:16551]

2001-08-20 Thread Sites, Bob

The 5500 does not take the "baby blue" cisco cable at the console port. Use
your cisco connectors but with a straight thru cat-5 cable. Never did find
out why they wanted to be different on the 5500? Anyone know why Cisco did
this? 

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Re: Certificationzone OSPF paper [7:16510]

2001-08-20 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz

Sorry about that. Two different timers.


>"richard dumoulin"  wrote, Hi guys,
>
>I am not sure to have found a contradiction in the OSPF paper from
>Certificationzone.
>
>At first, Howard writes
>
> ". The BDR hears updates being sent to the DR and starts a timer. If
the
>DR does not respond before the BDR timer expires, the BDR will send out the
>update that the DR should have sent. Under these circumstances, however, the
>BDR does not take over as DR."
>
>But pages later he says
>
> "OSPF updates are actually sent to a multicast address that includes
>both the DR and BDR. When the BDR hears an update sent to the DR, it starts
>a timer. If the DR does not respond before the BDR's

dead timer

>  expires, the BDR
>will assume that the DR is dead and will promote itself to DR."
>
>Do you understand my confusion ?




>
>Cheers.




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Palm Pilot [7:16555]

2001-08-20 Thread Patrick Donlon

Anyone have any experience of using their Palm to config routers, I'd like
to know what sort of cable should be attached to the hotsync serial lead. I
was unsure whether I'll need a gender converter, modem cable,
rollover/straight through etc., just trying to save some time

thanks




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RE: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium?? [7:16452]

2001-08-20 Thread Jose Villatoro

Hi Mike,

Are there any references out there on the net on setting this up? Our PIX
IOS version is 5.0. I've been using the VPN Client v1.0.a succesfully, but
it's not Win2K compatible.

Thanks,

Jose Villatoro

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Subject: RE: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium?? [7:16452]


I have PPTP running fine with Win2K. I had it working
on 5.3 and am now running 6.1. I recently upgraded to
DES but haven't tried using IPSec.

Michael Le, CCIE #6811

--- Rik Guyler  wrote:
> Yes, PIX supports PPTP acording to CCO.  However, I
> became frustrated with
> PPTP as each version of Windows offers different
> options and interacts with
> the PIX in a different manner.  In other words, I
> have set this up and made
> it work most of the times I tried, but this one
> time, in band camp
> 
> Now, my experience is with the 5.x code and maybe,
> just maybe, it's better
> with the 6.x code as this now seems to be the trendy
> way to provide remote
> access.  Despite this, I really recommend purchasing
> the VPN client.  The
> 100-user license retails for around $250.
> 
> BTW - It used to be that the PPTP configs for the
> PIX on CCO were flawed.
> Maybe this is still the same, maybe not.
> 
> ---
> Rik Guyler
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:48 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium??
> [7:16452]
> 
> 
> Hi
> 
> Does anyone know if it is possible to set up a VPN
> using either Windows 2000
> or Millennium to connect to a corporate PIX without
> using any Cisco client
> software?
> 
> I believe it is possible but haven't had any luck in
> getting it to work.
> 
> I have it working great using NT with the Cisco
> Secure VPN client, which
> unfortunately doesn't run on the newer versions of
> Windows. I've also been
> told this is because the newer versions of Windows
> don't need it as they
> have this capability built in.
> 
> I've done the usual setting up the VPN part on
> Windows but to my mind there
> seems to be a lot of options missing that would
> allow you to get it to work
> properly, such as ESP and AHP settings, etc.
> 
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Andy
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RE: a little OT: appletalk [7:16430]

2001-08-20 Thread Tim Medley

Jim,

Depending on the version of Mac OS that the Mac's are running, you may
not need to do anything with AppleTalk. Win2k Services for Mac, allows
straight TCP/IP file serving to Mac clients without appletalk. The Mac's
need to be running Mac OS 8.6 or later. If this is the case, then you
are looking at TCP/IP traffic from office1 to office2.

hope this helps.

Also here's a great resource for Mac and Windows integration,
www.macwindows.com

tim


Tim Medley - CCNP+Voice
Network Architect
VoIP Group
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Hello,

I have 2 offices connected each other with PIX running
VPN. office1 has Mac users, office2 has a w2k server.
Is there a way to have office1 Mac users access
office2 w2k server? I already enabled File Service for
Macintosh on the w2k server. 

I was told Appletalk must be enabled for Mac users to
access w2k server, so should I use Appletalk AND
TCP/IP or TCP/IP only?

Thanks in advance.

Jim

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wccp question [7:16558]

2001-08-20 Thread KY

Hi all,

Can I run the normal web caching( for outbound traffic) and reverse proxy
caching at the same time on the same content engine?

Thanks

KY




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VPN3000 [7:16559]

2001-08-20 Thread Spencer Plantier

I have a network that has 2 subnets on the inside.
Unfortunately one subnet is a 10 network that is
hardcoded and cannot be changed. The other is
172.x.x.x network which I can see find when I VPN in.
I cannot see the 10.x.x.x network from the VPN. I have
a 2912 connected to the inside of the VPN and it sees
the 10.x.x.x network fine. I have try to the 10.x.x.x
network to the VPN box and the switch from a 2610
router where the 10.x.x.x is located but didnt seem to
help. 

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Thanks.


=
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Re: frame leaking question [7:15234]

2001-08-20 Thread Sanjay Chaudhry

Hi,

I'm making a guess with my limited knowledge, hoping that more
knowledgeable will correct me...

My answer: C.

a. Not true. If frames are getting around without 
   many errors other than leaking, duplex mode must
   be fine.
b. This, itself is not a sufficient reason for frame
   leaking. 802.1q is capable to trunking the frames
   just right.
c. This could be possibly the cause. Must be using FDDI.
   SAID field is used specifically for identifying the VLAN.
   Messing this could cause frames intended for one VLAN to
   leak into another.
d. & e. Native VLAN information can be different at
   the two ends of a trunk if the two switches are
   serving two different VLANs.

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> Subject: frame leaking question [7:15234]
> 
> which one is the ans?? and why pls help
> 
> 
>   An Ethernet media trunk link is configured and is
> operating between two Cisco switches. Each switch has
> identical modules, software revisions and VLAN
> configuration information. Spanning tree protocol is
> disabled on all VLANs. Problems have been identified
> regarding frames leaking between two VLANs.  What is
> the most likely cause of this problem?
> 
> a.The duplex mode is different at each switch.
> b.The link is using IEEE 802.1Q protocol in point to
> point mode.
> c.The link is using 802.10 trunk protocol, with the
> SAID parameters incorrectly set.
> d.The link is using ISL protocol and the native VLAN
> information is different at each end of the link.
> e.The link is using I 802.1Q protocol and the
> native VLAN information is different at the each end
> of the link
> 
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Cat5000 Upgrade Failure Recovery. [7:16563]

2001-08-20 Thread Kwame

This a catalyst 5000 with Supervisor Engine I. Image upgrade failed
resulting in the switch going into a power reset loop immediately after
completing the boot process.  Suspecting a corrupted image, I decided to go
into rommon mode and download a fresh image.  Can't use tftp because I can't
get IP to work from rommon mode. Serial download via console also doesn't
work because as soon as the DOWNLOAD SERIAL command is issued, the switch
does a warm reset.

Any ideas?




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Re: Palm Pilot [7:16555]

2001-08-20 Thread Rik Thomas

Here is what I found on google.  I use an agenda which is better suited
for it.

http://www.andyandbrian.com/BRIAN/Cisco/Palm%20Pilot%20Router%20Connection.htm

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Patrick Donlon wrote:

> Anyone have any experience of using their Palm to config routers, I'd like
> to know what sort of cable should be attached to the hotsync serial lead. I
> was unsure whether I'll need a gender converter, modem cable,
> rollover/straight through etc., just trying to save some time
>
> thanks
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voice lab [7:16561]

2001-08-20 Thread george gittins

any pointers has for what type of hardware would i need to make voice over
ip lab?




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RE: HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]

2001-08-20 Thread McCallum, Robert

it was used for decnet 

-Original Message-
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Sent: 20 August 2001 15:38
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]


It used to be used to get around a bug in MSFC code.  Otherwise,  It depends
on clients being able to accept a gratuitious ARP which some hosts don't
understand. or might miss..

No advantage that I can think of off hand
Tony

- Original Message -
From: "kwock99" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 7:08 AM
Subject: HSRP - use-bia [7:16544]


> Hi All,
>
> Anyone knows what is the benefit to use the command "standby use-bia" in
HSRP
> rather than the Virtual Mac Address.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Francis Tsui




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Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should
be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting.
Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of
narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual
doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are
supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly
respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree,
but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking for free
consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes
in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I
wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six
spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to place where
people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get
an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set
it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how
they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the
blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the
people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know
the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear,
work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


> When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my
> messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would
be
> annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's
a
> good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator
> for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very "scalable"
> idea,  though.
>
> I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions
> are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of messages
> (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent the
> real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores, etc.
>
> Thanks again for all you do for us!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
Everyone's
> >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this very e-mail is
noise
> >because it is not directly on subject.
> >
> >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise.  They are
on
> >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> >
> >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions
that
> >are asked over and over again.
> >
> >2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group.
> >
> >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group -
This
> >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial
> >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives (or
> >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it
gets
> >bounced into the moderators queue.  If the moderator (actually we will
have
> >many) agrees that the message is appropriate, the moderator will allow
the
> >message to pass.  Plus if the moderator feels that the poster will
continue
> >to send interesting and valuable e-mails, the moderator can place the
user
> >in the "automatic approval" category so future e-mails will not need to
be
> >approved.  The goal is to bounce new messages from first time posters,
but
> >allow the old-timers to post without moderation.  Thus filtering the new
> >user asking inappropriate questions and the occasional spam.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "John Neiberger"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
> >
> >
> > > Yes, Paul did do a good job cutting down that traffic.  I just noticed
> > > that in the last month or so there has been a slew of *really* basic
> > > questions that can be answered in the first two or three chapters of
any
> > > decent CCNA study guide or by a 30 second search on CCO.
> > >
> > > I certainly don't mind answering these types of questions, I was just
> > > concerned that the purpose of the two separate lists was being
> > > undermined, causing a lot of unnecessary traffic.  To me it's no
> > > different than posting jobs on the Associate or Professional lists.
It
> > > may reach some of the right people, but it's not the appropriate place
> > > to post that type of information.
> > >
> > > >>> "Tom Lisa"  8/15/01 3:19:55 PM >>>
> > > Yes, John, there is an Associate list.  We have a

RE: help, catalyst 5500 console connectivity. [7:16523]

2001-08-20 Thread Daniel Cotts

Bingo! Sup III cards use a straight ethernet patch cord. Welcome to the club
of those who have been skunked by that one.

> -Original Message-
> From: Anand Ghody [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 8:27 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: help, catalyst 5500 console connectivity. [7:16523]
> 
> 
> I just bought a catalyst 5505 from ebay and I am having 
> trouble with the
> console port.  I am using one of the console cables that I 
> use with some
> other cisco routers.  My hyperterminal terminal setting are
> 9600-8-none-1, no flow control.  the switch when booted goes 
> through its
> diagnostics and boots fine. everything looks good except I can not
> connect to it to configure it.  Do the cataylst use a pinout different
> than that of a router. Any one got any ideas?
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Any opinions on CCIP? [7:16565]

2001-08-20 Thread sam sneed

I was just browsing the certification section of the Cisco website and
noticed CCIP certification for the first time. I passed CCNA and am
currently studying for CCNP. What is the purpose of this new certification?
Also at what level is this certifcation. First off, you don't need a CCNA to
pursue it, so is it at  a lower level than CCNP? I really cannot see the
need for this new certification. It seems there is a lot of overlap with
CCNP as far as routing and remote access is concerned.   BUT I see it
focuses more on WAN and telecom than CCNP. Why don't they just require
additional electives to CCNP similiar to what Microsoft did with MCSE+I if
they want to promote competency in these areas?

I believe the more certifications a vendor offers, the more watered down and
less respected they appear. Already Cisco has CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP, CCIE
and now CCIP.(I probably missed a few they may have added while submitting
this post). Especially being that many times, the HR represenatives
reviewing resumes are not familiar with many of these certifications and
acronyms. I would rather not have to put all these crazy acronyms on my
resume (1 good cert from each vendor should be enough), it's getting
ridiculous.

Whats does everyone else think?




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Re: ip default-network [7:16507]

2001-08-20 Thread Rick Foster

How is this different from configuring two different default routes for the
same network
e.g.
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 202.33.22.11
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 203.44.33.22
ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 204.55.44.33

Regards ...


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Re: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]

2001-08-20 Thread Ola Shusi

You definitely need to go through the CCNP route proir to taking the CCIE
written. You must also be sound in networking issues and not just cisco
related.

Ola
- Original Message -
From: "James Harris" 
To: 
Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 12:03 PM
Subject: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]


> Would anyone who has taken the CCNP and the CCIE written exam
> care to advise which is the hardest? I hear the CCIE written
> exam is very basic. It certainly covers some simple topics but
> would a candidate need to know networking to CCNP level or
> higher to achieve thes pass mark? Put another way, how would you
> compare two people, one with CCNP and not CCIE written, the
> other with the CCIE written and not CCNP?




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Re: CCIE Written [7:15870]

2001-08-20 Thread Ola Shusi

Hi  Rayappa.

1. You can mark the questions and go back to review your questions.
2. The question doesn't tell you how many of the answers you have to choose.
But the general approach is that a radio button means just one answer and a
square button suggest multiple answers. Read the questions very well and in
all instances, you will be told there are multiple answers.. However, I got
one trick question about HDLC compression (no mention that it has multiple
answers) but all options were in square button. Bottom line is that you have
to know your stuff.
3. I got about 2 command questions, but you don't have to type it.

Ola

- Original Message -
From: "Rayappa Mayakunthala" 
To: "'Ola Shusi'" 
Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: CCIE Written [7:15870]


> Hi there,
>
> Just wanted to ask you couple of quick questions, not sure if these were
> answered earlier so instead of spamming the group I want to ask you:
>
> 1. Can we mark the questions and review later, i.e. can we go back in the
> written exam or is it adaptive type?
> 2. Would the questions tell you how many answers you need to choose or
they
> won't tell you how many answers are there?
> 3. Did you get any free text format questions like what is the command to
> achieve this where you would be asked to type a command?
>
> Thank you very much for your time. Good luck for your lab.
>
> Cheers,
> Rayappa.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ola Shusi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:56 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: CCIE Written [7:15870]
>
>
> Hi Alll,
>
> I passed my ccie written on saturday. Thanks for all your contribution.
>
>
> Ola Shusi
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RE: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium?? [7:16452]

2001-08-20 Thread Yonkerbonk

You need at least 5.1 to do PPTP. Look in Advanced PIX
Configurations for the commands.

Michael Le, CCIE #6811


--- Jose Villatoro  wrote:
> Hi Mike,
> 
> Are there any references out there on the net on
> setting this up? Our PIX
> IOS version is 5.0. I've been using the VPN Client
> v1.0.a succesfully, but
> it's not Win2K compatible.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Jose Villatoro
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Yonkerbonk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:34 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or
> Millennium?? [7:16452]
> 
> 
> I have PPTP running fine with Win2K. I had it
> working
> on 5.3 and am now running 6.1. I recently upgraded
> to
> DES but haven't tried using IPSec.
> 
> Michael Le, CCIE #6811
> 
> --- Rik Guyler  wrote:
> > Yes, PIX supports PPTP acording to CCO.  However,
> I
> > became frustrated with
> > PPTP as each version of Windows offers different
> > options and interacts with
> > the PIX in a different manner.  In other words, I
> > have set this up and made
> > it work most of the times I tried, but this one
> > time, in band camp
> > 
> > Now, my experience is with the 5.x code and maybe,
> > just maybe, it's better
> > with the 6.x code as this now seems to be the
> trendy
> > way to provide remote
> > access.  Despite this, I really recommend
> purchasing
> > the VPN client.  The
> > 100-user license retails for around $250.
> > 
> > BTW - It used to be that the PPTP configs for the
> > PIX on CCO were flawed.
> > Maybe this is still the same, maybe not.
> > 
> > ---
> > Rik Guyler
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Saturday, August 18, 2001 6:48 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: VPN to PIX using Win2000 or Millennium??
> > [7:16452]
> > 
> > 
> > Hi
> > 
> > Does anyone know if it is possible to set up a VPN
> > using either Windows 2000
> > or Millennium to connect to a corporate PIX
> without
> > using any Cisco client
> > software?
> > 
> > I believe it is possible but haven't had any luck
> in
> > getting it to work.
> > 
> > I have it working great using NT with the Cisco
> > Secure VPN client, which
> > unfortunately doesn't run on the newer versions of
> > Windows. I've also been
> > told this is because the newer versions of Windows
> > don't need it as they
> > have this capability built in.
> > 
> > I've done the usual setting up the VPN part on
> > Windows but to my mind there
> > seems to be a lot of options missing that would
> > allow you to get it to work
> > properly, such as ESP and AHP settings, etc.
> > 
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
> > 
> > Andy
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
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RE: Cat5000 Upgrade Failure Recovery. [7:16563]

2001-08-20 Thread Daniel Cotts

On a Sup I card there is a jumper "diag" that will put you in a more basic
OS. Have you done that?

> -Original Message-
> From: Kwame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:47 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cat5000 Upgrade Failure Recovery. [7:16563]
> 
> 
> This a catalyst 5000 with Supervisor Engine I. Image upgrade failed
> resulting in the switch going into a power reset loop 
> immediately after
> completing the boot process.  Suspecting a corrupted image, I 
> decided to go
> into rommon mode and download a fresh image.  Can't use tftp 
> because I can't
> get IP to work from rommon mode. Serial download via console 
> also doesn't
> work because as soon as the DOWNLOAD SERIAL command is 
> issued, the switch
> does a warm reset.
> 
> Any ideas?
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Re: Subject: RE: Solution for loopback interfaces. [7:16527]

2001-08-20 Thread Paul Werner

Close, but not quite right.  The maximum number of loopback 
interfaces will be limited by the maximum number of interface 
descriptor blocks (IDBs) on a given platform and IOS version.  
You may want to bookmark this web page, because it is a fairly 
good snapshot of most of the platforms out there:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/63/idb_limit.html

So you may be asking why the field value is set to such a high 
number as 2 raised to the 31st power, or 2147483647?  If you 
think about it, the upper limit may change in future versions 
of the IOS to conform with a future/need/capability.  As memory 
capabilities grow, the software is already capable of providing 
this capability.

HTH,

Paul Werner

> As per your query regarding loopback interfaces.I have found 
some
> suitable
> info for your loopback interfaces.
> 
> The answer to your question 1 is that you can create more 
than 2
> loopback
> interfaces.Infact the the total number of loopback interfaces 
that can
> be
> created is from 0-0-2147483647


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Network Address [7:16573]

2001-08-20 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

Which Protocols suites don't bind a network address to a datalink address.
NetBEUI, SNA?




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Re: ip default-network [7:16507]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

It's not dynamic.  I can't ship that router out with the same config to 
anyplace in the world.  Using a default network, you can. It will come 
up, peer, get it's routing table, and send it's default stuff towards 
"home".

Let's say for instance that you have a large core network.  You want all 
traffic that isn't in the routing table to not go to Null0, but you want 
it to flow down to this core and let the core deal with it.  You may 
want this for a number of reasons, most obviously if you default route 
to the Internet, but also if you are running multiple routing protocols 
and not redistributing between all of them.

You can then set a loopback on all the core routers on say 
'192.168.200.0' network.  Then on all your routers you deply, you set 
the ip default-network to 192.168.200.0.  Now no matter where you drop 
that router, if it's got a routing table, and that table knows at least 
one person that can get to 192.168.200.0, then you're set.  No more 
configuration.

Let's also say that edge router has an isdn dial backup.  If your 
primary goes down, and the other comes up, when the new routes flow in, 
it will take the new interface with the new next hop to the core 
automatically - no route changes.  The new routes will just get tagged 
as default candidates and away it goes.


-me




Rick Foster wrote:
> How is this different from configuring two different default routes for the
> same network
> e.g.
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 202.33.22.11
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 203.44.33.22
> ip route 10.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 204.55.44.33
> 
> Regards ...




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Re: voice lab [7:16561]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

Depends on what type of Voice over IP you want to do.  If you just want 
to do an h323 gateway, you will need to have at least a 2600 with a VIC 
module and various cards to go in it.  FXO will go towards the CO on a 
regular dialin line.  You can then write some rules to allow something 
like netmeeting to dial out on that phone line.

If you want to simulate a phone switch, you'll need an FXS.  You can 
then plug a regular phone into the FXS port, the telco into the FXO and 
setup some call routing.  Again, you could setup H323 to allow 
netmeeting to call that phone, or for that phone to call netmeeting.

If you've got a real PBX to work with, you'll need either a E&M card or 
a voice PRI card.  E&M will give you dial ports that you can configure, 
however, you won't be able to pass the call information across that you 
can with a PRI.


-me



george gittins wrote:
> any pointers has for what type of hardware would i need to make voice over
> ip lab?




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Re: a little OT: appletalk [7:16430]

2001-08-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

Win2K Services for Mac does support AFP over TCP/IP.

See these links:

http://www.microsoft.com/mac/products/win2ksfm/default.asp#sfminfo

http://www.macwindows.com/Win2000.html#SFM

Priscilla

At 10:40 AM 8/20/01, Dave Caplinger wrote:
>You have 3 alternatives:
>
>1) Change the server: Make the Win2K server talk AppleShare/IP (File
>Services for Macintosh does not do this; it only talks AppleTalk, but
>you can purchase 3rd party products to add AppleShare over IP
>functionality.)  Then, your Mac clients will have to enter the IP
>address of the server in their Chooser.
>
>2) Change the client: Make the Macs talk NetBEUI over TCP/IP (such as by
>adding "DAVE" to each and every Mac that needs to talk to that server)
>
>3) Change the network: tunnel AppleTalk inside of IP so it will pass
>through the PIX.  You'll have to terminate the tunnel end points on
>AppleTalk-capable routers on the internal networks off of the "inside"
>interface of each PIX (since the PIX knows nothing about AppleTalk).
>  Those endpoints will have to have static address translation through
>the PIX, the PIX will have to be configured to allow GRE traffic to
>them, and in the router configs you have to specify the *public* (i.e.
>translated) IP address of the remote endpoint
>
>Naturally there are pros and cons to each.  If your needs are strictly
>related to file service access (and not printing!) to the Win2K box at
>the far site, option 1 is probably your best bet.  If you have a very
>small number of client Macs, then go with option 2.  If your needs are
>more complicated (for example, the Macs would like to print to the
>remote site, or access other AppleTalk services as well) then go with
>option 3, which means that you don't have to modify any of the servers
>or clients.
>
>Without getting into a religious debate about the merits of AppleTalk,
>just keep in mind that if you do tunnel, consider what impact this will
>have on your VPN bandwidth.  (Clearly, there will be *some* impact
>regardless of whether you view that to be good or bad. :-)
>
>Good luck!
>
>- Dave
>
>Jim Bond wrote:
>
> >Hello,
> >
> >I have 2 offices connected each other with PIX running
> >VPN. office1 has Mac users, office2 has a w2k server.
> >Is there a way to have office1 Mac users access
> >office2 w2k server? I already enabled File Service for
> >Macintosh on the w2k server.
> >
> >I was told Appletalk must be enabled for Mac users to
> >access w2k server, so should I use Appletalk AND
> >TCP/IP or TCP/IP only?
> >
> >Thanks in advance.
> >
> >Jim


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Re: ip default-network [7:16535]

2001-08-20 Thread Michael R. Eckhoff

You can't answer the question with the information you gave.  You just 
say that there are three upstream providers with OSPF and BGP.  You 
don't say which routes come over which and what their weights are.

Just check your routing table.  Whatever path has the best routes to one 
of the networks you specified will become the gateway of last resort.


As for their precidence, I don't know.  As with most things cisco, it 
could either be the order that they are in the config script, top down, 
or the order of their sorted queue.  So it may go through all of the 
best 10 routes before the best 192 routes.  That's something to put into 
lab.

Usually, you only have one default network.  The only case I can think 
of that you might have more is if you want everything to flow to data 
center A if there isn't a route unless data center A gets hit by a large 
falling rock, then transfer all the default traffic to data center B. 
To have more than one increases complexity, and with complexity comes 
failure.

Mike

Vijendra Jaiswal wrote:
> My query is still  unanswered !!
> 
> As Michael worte " the best route wins and gets set as the gateway of last
> resort"
> Of the example i wrote abt how does one which route will be the gateway of
> last resort .
> Vijendra.
> 
> 
> "Michael R. Eckhoff"  wrote in message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> 
>>All routes that match the default network will get tagged as default
>>candidates.  As with most routing decisions, the best route wins and
>>gets set as the gateway of last resort.  If that entry goes away, the
>>second one takes it place, and so forth, until you are out of default
>>candidates.
>>
>>-me
>>
>>Vijendra Jaiswal wrote:
>>
>>>Can anyone pls tell me on what basis  the entry of one of the
>>>default-network given in the configuration , is made in the routing
>>>
> table .
> 
>>>For e.g : The router is having 03 upstream providers with OSPF and
>>>
> BGP
> 
>>>running
>>>Provider 1) Default network: 10.0.0.0
>>> Deault network :192.181.35.0
>>>Default network: 192.140.0.0
>>>
>>>Provider 2) Default network 204.45.56.0
>>>Provider 2) Default network 209.10.70.0
>>>
>>>All the above entries are made in the routing table using the ip
>>>default-network command. Hence the router is having 05 default network
>>>
> in
> 
>>>the routing table.
>>>
>>>Pls help me in letting me know of the above 05 default network given ,
>>>
>>which
>>
>>>one of them will be listed in the routing table as "gateway of last
>>>
> resort"
> 
>>>when one sees using the command "show ip route" . And pls tell me on
>>>
> what
> 
>>>basis the  particular network will be choosen as "gateway of last
>>>
> resort"
> 
>>>Hoping that you will help me in solving this mystry for
>>>
> meThanks.
> 
>>>Vijendra




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Re: Network Address [7:16573]

2001-08-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 12:58 PM 8/20/01, Donald B Johnson jr wrote:
>Which Protocols suites don't bind a network address to a datalink address.
>NetBEUI, SNA?

Sounds right, plus I would add DECnet. DECnet does the opposite. It causes 
the datalink address to be based on the network-layer address. This is one 
of the reasons it's tricky to use HSRP on an interface configured for 
DECnet. See the thread about HSRP standby use bia.

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Cable Based Network enquiry [7:16572]

2001-08-20 Thread NKP

Hi everyone ,
I would like to know if anyone has implemented a cable network on Cisco
7200 series .
  The main detail I am looking out for is information about the cable modem
cards that Cisco provides , how many subscribers can we provide through each
port on cable modem card .
   What are the hardware requirements for the cable solution .

thanks in advance

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RE: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]

2001-08-20 Thread Ross McCormick

Chris

This is dredging into the distant past, but I encountered a similar password
sync error with a Windows NT domain - the domain had "User must logon to
change password" selected.  Once this was changed, all was well - it also
fixed a few Outlook/Exchange e-mail issues as well.

Other than that, was using CiscoSecure/ACS with a 3640 to provide dial-in
access and it was pretty sweet...

Less problems than the previous NT RAS solution, faster connect speeds, and
ACL's and auditing meant we could tidy up a few loose ends.


RM

Chris Clark wrote:
> 
> The issue comes up when you are using NT or AD as the back-end.
> Then a user
> comes in remotely to authenticate with ppp or vpn. If the
> password has just
> expired, then they will not be able to login.
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: dan snyder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]
> 
> 
> So far the password changing issue is really the only
> limitation of ACS that
> we found, but if you use it to intersect with the same database
> that your
> desktops login to (ADS for example) then your password changes
> will be taken
> care of.
> 
> >From: "Chris Clark" 
> >Reply-To: "Chris Clark" 
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: Re: Cisco Secure ACS for NT/2000 [7:16318]
> >Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2001 22:53:29 -0400
> >
> >Depends on what you are using it for. It can do a lot of
> different things.
> >The main gotcha is that it can not handle password changes
> very well.
> >
> >
> >""Stepp Harless""  wrote in message
> >[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Does anyone have any experience good or bad with Cisco
> Secure Access
> >Control
> > > for Windows NT/2000? Are there any gottchas that I need to
> be aware of?
> >I
> >am
> > > trying to get approval to purchase this product but
> managment wants me
> >to
> > > get opinions from someone else besides Cisco.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > >
> > > Harles
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Re: Rapid spanning-tree 802.1w [7:16524]

2001-08-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

A search on Google discovered that Cisco has a patent for the technologies 
in 802.1W!? So, I'm sure Cisco is working on support for 802.1W. See this
link:

http://standards.ieee.org/db/patents/pat802.html

A search at Cisco's site found nothing, but that's partly because their 
search engine is SO AWFUL. A Cisco person yelled at me for saying this 
once, but I'm sticking to my guns. The search engine at Cisco's site found 
a bunch of pages with 802.1 in then, in some language other than English 
that seems to use "w" as a word. Interesting, but not helpful.

Someone had a link for doing a Google search on Cisco's Web site? What was 
that? Anyone still have it?

Priscilla

At 09:27 AM 8/20/01, Semion Lisyansky wrote:
>Hi List,
>
>As far as I understand UplinkFast/BackboneFast are partial
>implementation of 802.1w, Does Cisco has full implementation
>of rapid spanning-tree 802.1w? If yes, in which product, where
>can I get some more info about those products?
>Please cc me directly 'cause I'm a digest subscriber.
>
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RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Chuck Larrieu

Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many
folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )

two points:

1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning
points

2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what. The
CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well.

without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed,
there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something to
be learned that is applicable to one's studies.

Chuck

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Donald B Johnson jr
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should
be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting.
Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of
narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual
doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are
supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly
respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree,
but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking for free
consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes
in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I
wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six
spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to place where
people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get
an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set
it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how
they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the
blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the
people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know
the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear,
work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
To:
Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


> When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my
> messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would
be
> annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's
a
> good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator
> for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very "scalable"
> idea,  though.
>
> I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions
> are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of messages
> (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent the
> real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores, etc.
>
> Thanks again for all you do for us!
>
> Priscilla
>
> At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
Everyone's
> >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this very e-mail is
noise
> >because it is not directly on subject.
> >
> >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise.  They are
on
> >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> >
> >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions
that
> >are asked over and over again.
> >
> >2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group.
> >
> >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group -
This
> >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial
> >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives (or
> >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it
gets
> >bounced into the moderators queue.  If the moderator (actually we will
have
> >many) agrees that the message is appropriate, the moderator will allow
the
> >message to pass.  Plus if the moderator feels that the poster will
continue
> >to send interesting and valuable e-mails, the moderator can place the
user
> >in the "automatic approval" category so future e-mails will not need to
be
> >approved.  The goal is to bounce new messages from first time posters,
but
> >allow the old-timers to post without moderation.  Thus filtering the new
> >user asking inappropriate questions and the occasional spam.
> >
> >Take care,
> >
> >Paul
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >- Original Message -
> >From: "John Neiberger"
> >To:
> >Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 6:05 PM
> >Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
> >
> 

Re: help, catalyst 5500 console connectivity. [7:16523]

2001-08-20 Thread Anand Ghody

Thanks to everyone for their help. I finally got into the switch. 

Anand Ghody wrote:
> 
> I just bought a catalyst 5505 from ebay and I am having trouble with the
> console port.  I am using one of the console cables that I use with some
> other cisco routers.  My hyperterminal terminal setting are
> 9600-8-none-1, no flow control.  the switch when booted goes through its
> diagnostics and boots fine. everything looks good except I can not
> connect to it to configure it.  Do the cataylst use a pinout different
> than that of a router. Any one got any ideas?




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Supervisor on Cat5509 not recognized [7:16588]

2001-08-20 Thread Hans Stout

Hello colleagues,

I have installed a redundant Supervisor III in my Cat5509. The problem is 
that the switch doesn4t see the module, it says that Module 2 is empty. The 
system status LED on the module is RED, which probably means that one of the 
self tests has failed. I am not sure how to find out what the problem is. Is 
there a way to determine why the module isn4t recognized ?
Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,

Hans

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ip ospf network [7:16589]

2001-08-20 Thread Jim Coyne

I have a frame relay network setup with all point-to-point connections on
sub-interfaces. I get the same result if I use ip ospf network
point-to-point as I do when I don't use it. What is the point (no pun
intended) of this command if it gives me the same results as without it? I
also noticed that one of the the routers in my lab has version 10.3 IOS and
the ip ospf network command doesn't let you set point-to-point, only
point-to-multipoint, non-broadcast and broadcast. How would I make a version
10.x router work with the 12.x routers that have ip ospf network
point-to-point set? (and please don't say upgrade the IOS)




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Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]

2001-08-20 Thread Human Resources

Hi everybody:

I was just trying to find out and understand the way
Cisco marks our test.

They say that they scale it from 300 to 1000.  What is
that?  To me scaling from 0 is easy, but I am not able
to understand this.  Can someone please help me out
with this.

I received 822 on my CCNA and the passing score on
that test was 755.  Can someone tell what my
percentage is on this test?

Similary I received 736 on BSCN and the passing score
was 690.  Again how does it translate in percentage. 
I know that I did not get a high score on this test
compared to CCNA, but percentages really make things
easier to compare.

Any help will be appreciated.

Thanks in advance

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CCNP Question [7:16592]

2001-08-20 Thread Moises L

Im currently studying to take the CCNP exam.

I understand that there are two tracks to get certified. A two exam track 
and also a four exam track. I would like to get recommendations and/or 
experiences on both of these tracks.

Thanks!

-Moises


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Re: Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]

2001-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

1000-300 = 700

700/100 = 7

So, 7 points = 1%

755-300= 455

455/7= 65%

822-300=522

522/7= 74%

of course, this may or may not be how it's done. Probably not.

-chris

""Human Resources""  wrote in message
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> Hi everybody:
>
> I was just trying to find out and understand the way
> Cisco marks our test.
>
> They say that they scale it from 300 to 1000.  What is
> that?  To me scaling from 0 is easy, but I am not able
> to understand this.  Can someone please help me out
> with this.
>
> I received 822 on my CCNA and the passing score on
> that test was 755.  Can someone tell what my
> percentage is on this test?
>
> Similary I received 736 on BSCN and the passing score
> was 690.  Again how does it translate in percentage.
> I know that I did not get a high score on this test
> compared to CCNA, but percentages really make things
> easier to compare.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> HR
>
>
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Which Cisco router for SOHO/HOME Use ? [7:16583]

2001-08-20 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

What router would one want to purchase for mostly home use (I will want to
put together a CCNP/CCIE Lab in the future but for now, I would just like a
Cisco router for my home network   My choices for now are

1605R
1720/1750
2524
26XX ?

Is there any reason why the 1605 would not be enough ? I see a number of
2524's on EBay , are the a nice router for home ?  I would prefer to spend
as little as possible of course but am willing to spend a little more for a
better router.




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Re: Cable Based Network enquiry [7:16572]

2001-08-20 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

A lot of that has to do with return plant design, we used to look at it as a
number but now we consider nodes that feed an RPR, type of traffic, it
really becomes a noise issue, you know the old funneling effect. Miles (of
cable, not the guy by the water cooler) and condition of plant should also
be in the mix. We also early on only looked at it as a number of HPs but now
we factor in different varibles. This is also amplified by the fact that we
are running other services in the return, and will continue to add services.
This is relevant if you were talking about cable plant, if you were talking
about how many pps the memory and processor can dump out the NSI,
Nevermind.God I love DOCSIS.


- Original Message -
From: "NKP" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:53 AM
Subject: Cable Based Network enquiry [7:16572]


> Hi everyone ,
> I would like to know if anyone has implemented a cable network on
Cisco
> 7200 series .
>   The main detail I am looking out for is information about the cable
modem
> cards that Cisco provides , how many subscribers can we provide through
each
> port on cable modem card .
>What are the hardware requirements for the cable solution .
>
> thanks in advance
>
> --
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RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Daniel Cotts

I've answered a number of troubleshooting questions. I do appreciate it if
the questioner posts the final outcome to the group. Then it becomes a
learning experience. Many do not. Flames to them.
Each of us is free to reply or not to design questions.

> -Original Message-
> From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:31 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
> 
> 
> Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of 
> annoyance for many
> folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )
> 
> two points:
> 
> 1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide 
> good learning
> points
> 
> 2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no 
> matter what. The
> CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well.
> 
> without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages 
> being reviewed,
> there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there 
> is something to
> be learned that is applicable to one's studies.
> 
> Chuck
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Donald B Johnson jr
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
> 
> 
> I think that if there is a split, all these questions 
> concerning work should
> be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not 
> group consulting.
> Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a 
> growing number of
> narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and 
> this individual
> doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even 
> though they are
> supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to 
> support and highly
> respect the intellectual property of others, which I 
> whole-heartedly agree,
> but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
> personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are 
> looking for free
> consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like 
> everyone chimes
> in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs 
> gets blasted. I
> wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central 
> frame hub and six
> spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed 
> to place where
> people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in 
> it should get
> an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, 
> have cisco SE set
> it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say 
> that this is how
> they learn by posting real world questions and this is true 
> but it is the
> blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in 
> mind that the
> people answering the these so called learning experiences 
> didn't just know
> the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact 
> Cisco, buy gear,
> work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.
> 
> - Original Message -
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
> 
> 
> > When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe 
> again. Would all my
> > messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed 
> again? That would
> be
> > annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than 
> that, I think it's
> a
> > good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through 
> the moderator
> > for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a 
> very "scalable"
> > idea,  though.
> >
> > I hope you don't divide the group again. The general 
> networking questions
> > are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The 
> diversity of messages
> > (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning 
> and represent the
> > real world better than if we just got questions about 
> passing scores, etc.
> >
> > Thanks again for all you do for us!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> > >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
> Everyone's
> > >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this 
> very e-mail is
> noise
> > >because it is not directly on subject.
> > >
> > >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the 
> noise.  They are
> on
> > >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> > >
> > >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer 
> the questions
> that
> > >are asked over and over again.
> > >
> > >2. Split out the professional group from the general 
> networking group.
> > >
> > >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to 
> the group -
> This
> > >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require 
> substantial
> > >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an 
> e-mail arrives (or
> > >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been 
> approved, it
> gets
> > >bounced into the moderators queue.  If the moderator 
> (

Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Donald B Johnson jr

And I agree that this will go on. My message sprang out of what Paul said,
that he might split the general networking from the Professional group, and
I agree with Priscilla that all are better served if they stay together. I
think if anything should get split out it should be work related stuff. Then
at least we would have an appropriate place to point them.



- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: "Donald B Johnson jr" ; 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 10:41 AM
Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


> Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many
> folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )
>
> two points:
>
> 1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning
> points
>
> 2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what.
The
> CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well.
>
> without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed,
> there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something
to
> be learned that is applicable to one's studies.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Donald B Johnson jr
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
> I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work
should
> be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting.
> Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of
> narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual
> doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are
> supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly
> respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly
agree,
> but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
> personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking for
free
> consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes
> in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I
> wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six
> spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to place
where
> people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should
get
> an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE
set
> it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is
how
> they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the
> blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the
> people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know
> the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear,
> work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
> > When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all
my
> > messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would
> be
> > annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think
it's
> a
> > good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the
moderator
> > for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very "scalable"
> > idea,  though.
> >
> > I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking
questions
> > are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of
messages
> > (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent
the
> > real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores,
etc.
> >
> > Thanks again for all you do for us!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> > >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
> Everyone's
> > >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this very e-mail is
> noise
> > >because it is not directly on subject.
> > >
> > >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise.  They are
> on
> > >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> > >
> > >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions
> that
> > >are asked over and over again.
> > >
> > >2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group.
> > >
> > >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group -
> This
> > >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial
> > >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives
(or
> > >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it
> gets
> > >bounced into the moderators queue.  If the moderator (actually we will
> have
> > >many) agrees that the me

RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

I vote for keeping the real-world questions about design and 
troubleshooting in the list. The answers do not compete with the answers 
someone would get from a paid consultant. They are "off the cuff" answers 
that are useful for learning, but not very detailed.

These work-related questions are the most interesting and the best for 
learning. They are a heck of a lot better than the questions about passing 
scores, availability of brain d*mps, which of the following is the right 
answer for this question, with so many typos that one can't help think that 
the person is writing it from their Palm Pilot after leaving the test 
center and failing miserably due to utter cluelessness.

Priscilla

At 02:31 PM 8/20/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
>Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many
>folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )
>
>two points:
>
>1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning
>points
>
>2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what. The
>CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well.
>
>without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed,
>there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something to
>be learned that is applicable to one's studies.
>
>Chuck
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Donald B Johnson jr
>Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
>I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work should
>be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting.
>Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of
>narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual
>doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are
>supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly
>respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly agree,
>but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
>personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking for free
>consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes
>in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I
>wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six
>spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to place where
>people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should get
>an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE set
>it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is how
>they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the
>blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the
>people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know
>the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear,
>work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
>To:
>Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
> > When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all my
> > messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would
>be
> > annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think it's
>a
> > good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the moderator
> > for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very "scalable"
> > idea,  though.
> >
> > I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking questions
> > are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of
messages
> > (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent
the
> > real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores,
etc.
> >
> > Thanks again for all you do for us!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> > >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
>Everyone's
> > >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this very e-mail is
>noise
> > >because it is not directly on subject.
> > >
> > >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise.  They are
>on
> > >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> > >
> > >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions
>that
> > >are asked over and over again.
> > >
> > >2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group.
> > >
> > >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group -
>This
> > >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial
> > >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives
(or
> > >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster

RE: ip ospf network [7:16589]

2001-08-20 Thread Jim Brown

The network types must match so the OSPF timers will match and the routers
will form neighbor adjacencies.

There are different reasons why you would want to use each network type, but
the important thing is they all match, or more correctly the timers all
match.

If routers are not neighbors they will not exchange routing information,
breaking the routing process.

In your situation you could make them all point-to-multipoint, broadcast, or
non-broadcast.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Coyne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:32 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: ip ospf network [7:16589]


I have a frame relay network setup with all point-to-point connections on
sub-interfaces. I get the same result if I use ip ospf network
point-to-point as I do when I don't use it. What is the point (no pun
intended) of this command if it gives me the same results as without it? I
also noticed that one of the the routers in my lab has version 10.3 IOS and
the ip ospf network command doesn't let you set point-to-point, only
point-to-multipoint, non-broadcast and broadcast. How would I make a version
10.x router work with the 12.x routers that have ip ospf network
point-to-point set? (and please don't say upgrade the IOS)




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Re: Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]

2001-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Well now we know why your in HR.  Couldn't handle the entrance exam for 
Alegbra class, huh?

Rick




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Re: ip ospf network [7:16589]

2001-08-20 Thread EA Louie

most specifically, ospf hello timers must match.  In certification labs,
that's usually the point of the question - make them match without using ip
ospf network commands.

Hint 1:  show ip ospf interface on the 12.x point-to-point network router
noting timer values
Hint 2:  set ip ospf hello (Interface-level command) on the 10.3 router
Hint 3:  upgrade the IOS

(Just kidding about #3)
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Brown" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: ip ospf network [7:16589]


> The network types must match so the OSPF timers will match and the routers
> will form neighbor adjacencies.
>
> There are different reasons why you would want to use each network type,
but
> the important thing is they all match, or more correctly the timers all
> match.
>
> If routers are not neighbors they will not exchange routing information,
> breaking the routing process.
>
> In your situation you could make them all point-to-multipoint, broadcast,
or
> non-broadcast.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Coyne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 1:32 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: ip ospf network [7:16589]
>
>
> I have a frame relay network setup with all point-to-point connections on
> sub-interfaces. I get the same result if I use ip ospf network
> point-to-point as I do when I don't use it. What is the point (no pun
> intended) of this command if it gives me the same results as without it? I
> also noticed that one of the the routers in my lab has version 10.3 IOS
and
> the ip ospf network command doesn't let you set point-to-point, only
> point-to-multipoint, non-broadcast and broadcast. How would I make a
version
> 10.x router work with the 12.x routers that have ip ospf network
> point-to-point set? (and please don't say upgrade the IOS)
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ISDN Simulator [7:16600]

2001-08-20 Thread Elvis Costello

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RE: Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]

2001-08-20 Thread Baker, Jason

does it really matter what you get ? You either know it or you don't.

it's not the exam pass mark that is going to help you solve problems in the
real world.
If you pass you have a certain level of knowledge. 

The mark you get is not really comparable to the next guy because everyone
gets different questions.

So I cannot see the point in trying to work out how good your pass mark is.


> -Original Message-
> From: Human Resources [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, 21 August 2001 5:35 am
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]
> 
> Hi everybody:
> 
> I was just trying to find out and understand the way
> Cisco marks our test.
> 
> They say that they scale it from 300 to 1000.  What is
> that?  To me scaling from 0 is easy, but I am not able
> to understand this.  Can someone please help me out
> with this.
> 
> I received 822 on my CCNA and the passing score on
> that test was 755.  Can someone tell what my
> percentage is on this test?
> 
> Similary I received 736 on BSCN and the passing score
> was 690.  Again how does it translate in percentage. 
> I know that I did not get a high score on this test
> compared to CCNA, but percentages really make things
> easier to compare.
> 
> Any help will be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks in advance
> 
> HR
> 
> 
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HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread Ray Smith

Guys,

After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to 
upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with Windows-XP, 
I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a bug in 
the switch software that is incompatible with XP.

Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with 
compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there 
knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from 
literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.

The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which 
occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.  I 
understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition to 
the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -

a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with the 
router IOS as
 well?

b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?

I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks


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Frame-Relay SVC Disabled, LAPF Disabled....???? [7:16603]

2001-08-20 Thread Cisco Nuts

Hello,
I am trying to configure a Cisco router for frame-relay in the lab using a 
2501 as a FR switch. On one router, the int. shows...UP/UP but on the second 
router shows a ...UP/DOWN. When I do a # sh int s0, the intf. shows a FR SVC 
Disabled, LAPF Disabled...I don't see this on the other router..What is this 
and how can I get rid of this so I can bring the interface on a UP/UP state?
Thank you.


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Re: Load Balancing between 2 unequal links using BGP [7:16528]

2001-08-20 Thread suaveguru

thanks for your advice I will research on the areas
that I have mentioned


regards,
suaveguru
--- "Howard C. Berkowitz"  wrote:
> >Hi all,,
> >
> >wonder if anyone knows how to do load-balancing
> across
> >2 unequal links using bgp ?
> 
> BGP isn't designed to load-balance.  That being
> said, you may be able 
> to get some reasonable degree of load splitting
> using more-specific 
> addresses, communities, MEDs, etc.  It is _not_ a
> beginner's task and 
> requires significant knowledge of global routing
> policy.
> 
> >
> >regards,
> >
> >suaveguru
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Re: R/S LAB switch [7:12781]

2001-08-20 Thread td

you may want to try swapping lab using http://www.groupstudy.com  .  They
have a dedicated ng for it.
Good Luck.
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Re: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread td

Check it out.
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml
Hope this help
TD

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> Guys,
>
> After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to
> upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
Windows-XP,
> I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a bug
in
> the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
>
> Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with
> compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there
> knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from
> literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
>
> The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which
> occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.  I
> understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition
to
> the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
>
> a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with
the
> router IOS as
>  well?
>
> b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
>
> I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
>
>
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Re: support for CAR [7:16531]

2001-08-20 Thread suaveguru

thank you 
--- Bob Timmons  wrote:
> Check out www.cisco.com/go/fn for the Feature
> Navigator at Cisco.
> 
> (e.g. v12.0(5)t will run on a 2500 with 4MB RAM &
> 8MB Flash and it runs
> CAR.)
> 
> > HI ALL
> >
> > anyone knows what version of IOS , router platform
> and
> > minimum flash memor or DRAM able to support CAR in
> > cisco IOS s/w
> >
> >
> > any input will be greatly appreciated
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > suaveguru
> >
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What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-20 Thread Circusnuts

I have lent out my CCNP books & do not remember all the router models that
can
route between VLAN's.  I currently have a 4700M doing the job, but wanted to
know if a 2600 would route them.

Thanks
Phil




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Re: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]

2001-08-20 Thread Thomas N.

Thanks All for the info!!!

Thomas N.


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>
> - Original Message -
> From: Thomas N.
> To:
> Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 8:31 PM
> Subject: Re: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]
>
>
> > Sorry I cannot answer.  However I do have additional question.  Can one
> take
> > CCIE written exam, then CCIE lab exam and become CCIE without going
> through
> > CCNA and CCNP???
> >
> >
> >
> > ""James Harris""  wrote in message
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> > > Would anyone who has taken the CCNP and the CCIE written exam
> > > care to advise which is the hardest? I hear the CCIE written
> > > exam is very basic. It certainly covers some simple topics but
> > > would a candidate need to know networking to CCNP level or
> > > higher to achieve thes pass mark? Put another way, how would you
> > > compare two people, one with CCNP and not CCIE written, the
> > > other with the CCIE written and not CCNP?
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Re: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

What does this have to do with Widows XP ?  Pardon my ignorance but I don't
see anything that would affect XP in particular.


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> http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml
> Hope this help
> TD
>
> ""Ray Smith""  wrote in message
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> > Guys,
> >
> > After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to
> > upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
> Windows-XP,
> > I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a
bug
> in
> > the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
> >
> > Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with
> > compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there
> > knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from
> > literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
> >
> > The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which
> > occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.
I
> > understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition
> to
> > the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
> >
> > a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with
> the
> > router IOS as
> >  well?
> >
> > b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
> >
> > I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
> >
> >
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RE: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-20 Thread Dwayne Saunders

Yes it will I am using a 2610 to route between 4 vlans and a 2621 to route
between 15 different vlans in our test environment

D'Wayne Saunders
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I have lent out my CCNP books & do not remember all the router models that
can
route between VLAN's.  I currently have a 4700M doing the job, but wanted to
know if a 2600 would route them.

Thanks
Phil




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Re: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread Wojtek Zlobicki

Oops, this should have been a reply to TD's message.


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> What does this have to do with Widows XP ?  Pardon my ignorance but I
don't
> see anything that would affect XP in particular.
>
>
> ""td""  wrote in message
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> > Check it out.
> > http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cat5k-8021x-vuln-pub.shtml
> > Hope this help
> > TD
> >
> > ""Ray Smith""  wrote in message
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> > > Guys,
> > >
> > > After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to
> > > upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
> > Windows-XP,
> > > I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a
> bug
> > in
> > > the switch software that is incompatible with XP.
> > >
> > > Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me
with
> > > compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out
there
> > > knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from
> > > literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.
> > >
> > > The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which
> > > occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's
network.
> I
> > > understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in
addition
> > to
> > > the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -
> > >
> > > a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or
with
> > the
> > > router IOS as
> > >  well?
> > >
> > > b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?
> > >
> > > I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks
> > >
> > >
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RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread Steve Smith

We are a full XP shop and a Cisco CNP and have had no issues nor have we
seen anything to indicate such with XP.
We are 12.1 on routers.

Steve

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Subject: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]


Guys,

After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to 
upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with
Windows-XP, 
I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a
bug in 
the switch software that is incompatible with XP.

Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with 
compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there 
knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from 
literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.

The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which 
occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.
I 
understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition
to 
the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -

a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with
the 
router IOS as
 well?

b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?

I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks


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Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-20 Thread MikeN

It was my understanding that a fastethernet interface on 2620's and higher
platforms running a minimum of ip plus feature pack is required to trunk
vlans. Are you by chance routing between vlans on your 2610 with an ethernet
interface using secondary addresses? I'd be interested to know.

Thank you,
MikeN


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> between 15 different vlans in our test environment
>
> D'Wayne Saunders
> Network Admin
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Circusnuts [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:54
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]
>
>
> I have lent out my CCNP books & do not remember all the router models that
> can
> route between VLAN's.  I currently have a 4700M doing the job, but wanted
to
> know if a 2600 would route them.
>
> Thanks
> Phil




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Re: HSRP with 4 MSFC's....Best practice [7:15734]

2001-08-20 Thread Henrique Issamu terada

Tony

What do you think about convert the boxes to Native IOS ?
I personally like this mode , since the switch runs L2/L3 on same software .
Did HSRP with them , working fine until now . Besides , I think it is 
easier to customer to maintain by himself, since he doesn't need to care 
about 4 MSFCs running HSRP , 4 OSPF equal-cost paths , etc .

Regards ,

Henrique Terada
CCIE # 7460


At 10:56 12/08/2001 -0400, Tony Medeiros wrote:
>Found my answer,
>
>From:
>http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat6000/sft_6_1/configgd
>/redund.htm#43570
>
>Quote:
>"Layer 2 redundancy for the supervisor engines (one active and one in
>standby)-If the active supervisor engine fails (the MSFC installed on it
>will also fail), both Layer 2 and Layer 3 functions roll over to the
>redundant supervisor engine and MSFC combination."
>
>So the way I see it:
>For HSRP redundency for the same vlan.  The standby MSFC  Should be the the
>MSFC in the redundent supervisor.  This will utilize all the replicated MLS
>information kept in the PFC's (or CEF information on the PFC2)  This will be
>a faster, cleaner failover than having the standby HSRP router in the other
>chassis in the event of a supervisor failover.  It will also keep the Layer
>2 path optimal.  If the whole box fails then that is a different story.  The
>"listening" HSRP peers will take a little longer to come up as well as build
>out their MLS/CEF cache.
>
>Cool, and thanks to Jeff for the pointer.
>
>Tony M.
>#6172
>
>
>- Original Message -
>From: "Tony Medeiros"
>To:
>Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2001 1:34 AM
>Subject: HSRP with 4 MSFC'sBest practice [7:15734]
>
>
> > I have a question that really only experience will answer.
> >
> > I have a customer with a two 6509 core with redundant Sup's and MSFC's in
> > each
> > box ( a little over kill if you ask me)  The setup is a typical one with
> > access layer switch's uplinked to each core boxes with the typical L2
load
> > balancing going on by setting up the root bridges appropriately on the
>core
> > boxes.  The active HSRP MSFC's correspond with the root bridges.  Pretty
> > vanilla setup. A failure of a whole core box will have the layer 2 STP
and
> > layer 3 HSRP's fail over the other core box. They are running a hybrid
>setup
> > with IOS and CAT OS.   So far so good.
> >
> > The redundant MSFC's in each box are set up as the lowest priority's so
>they
> > are just in listening mode.
> >
> > My question is:  In the case of a primary Sup failure in one of the boxes
>and
> > the secondary takes over.  Will the associated primary MSFC fail as well?
>I
> > have never tested this and this is a production network so I obviously
>can't
> > test it there.  If the associated MSFC fails with the sup,  It make sense
>to
> > me to make the MSFC in the redundant sup the standby one so the layer 2
>path
> > stays optimal and doesn't have to pass over the inter core trunk to hit
>the
> > router in the other core switch.  I know this won't be optimal if the
>whole
> > box fails because it takes slightly longer for a listening HSRP peer to
> > transit to active than it does a standby peer to transit to active.  I
>could
> > speed things up be lowering the HSRP hello timers some.  If the MSFC
stays
> > alive after a sup failure then I think I'll  just leave things alone.
> >
> > Has anybody any experience in this type of setup?  I didn't build this
> > network
> > but I am tasked to fix a bunch of screwups.  I know this would be a moot
> > point
> > if they were running native IOS cus the 2 MSFC's really act as one.
> >
> > Any experience or comments are very much welcome    I haven't posted
a
> > question in quite a while, but it feels good !!  I'll be scanning CCO too
>in
> > the meantime.
> >
> > Thanks in advance
> > Tony M.
> > #6172




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RE: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]

2001-08-20 Thread Chuck Larrieu

I'm sure you've had your fair share of smart remarks by now. So I won't add
my own. I will remark that in fairness to your boss, there is probably
something he has heard or read which caused him to look for reassurance.

for example, is there a concern with VPN compatibility of operation using
Win XP VPN client software? is there a security concern based upon published
writings about the XP TCP stack?

if the question is "will Cisco routers pass traffic generated by XP
machines?" the answer is "sure. why not" after all, there is nothing in an
IP or a TCP header that indicates the type of host OS that originates the
packet. as long as the traffic is contained in valid packets, the router
will pass process them. knowing that, may I recommend you sit down with the
boss and ask what his concerns are. what has he read? what has he heard? why
would he think there is reason to be concerned? hell, he could be a victim
of MBBW ( Management By Business Week - where the president of the company
saw something in Business Week Magazine over the weekend and on Monday
morning told your boss to investigate and come back with report. ;->

( and yes, I know some bosses are "she" )

Chuck

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Ray Smith
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 5:38 PM
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Subject: HELP!! The Cisco Code & Windows XP [7:16604]


Guys,

After my boss delegated me to research all I can about what is need to
upgrade if necessary our Cisco routers and switches to work with Windows-XP,
I was only able to assert from information on the web that there is a bug in
the switch software that is incompatible with XP.

Does anyone here know of any valuable information that can help me with
compiling an educated assessment of this research?  Is anyone out there
knowledgeable of this issue either from personal experience or from
literature?  I would really appreciate some feedback.

The only problems that I have actually heard of thus far is that which
occurred during the beta test that brought down one of Xerox's network.  I
understand that there is a patch that is available as a fix, in addition to
the option of upgrading the Switch code.  My question is: -

a). Does the incompatibility only exist with the Switch software or with the
router IOS as
 well?

b). Is the patch the best way of dealing with the problem?

I appreciate any help that I can get.  Thanks


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Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Tom Lisa

I agree with Priscilla.  From an academic point of view it is a
valuable learning experience for beginning students (I always
recommend groupstudy to my new students).  It is a unique
educational resource.  It provides them with an insight into
the types of problems they might run into in the "real" world.
They also get to see some of the thinking process that goes
into arriving at a solution.

I even think the "flames" are sometimes useful.  They show
how and to what degree someone must be prepared to defend
a position.

Having owned a consulting business for 10 years, I can certainly
empathize with Don's position.  However, I don't think any working
consultants are losing revenue from the people who post "my boss
wants" type of questions.  The more egregious posts should
probably just be met with a loud, resounding silence.  The rest
can provide an opportunity to learn in areas we might not otherwise
see.

Priscilla (I think it was you), that search engine link you were looking
for is: http://www.copernic.com.  Beware though, it takes about a
dozen clicks before they finally let you download the free software.

HTH,
Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:

  I vote for keeping the real-world questions about design and
  troubleshooting in the list. The answers do not compete with the
  answers
  someone would get from a paid consultant. They are "off the cuff"
  answers
  that are useful for learning, but not very detailed.

  These work-related questions are the most interesting and the best
  for
  learning. They are a heck of a lot better than the questions about
  passing
  scores, availability of brain d*mps, which of the following is the
  right
  answer for this question, with so many typos that one can't help
  think that
  the person is writing it from their Palm Pilot after leaving the test
  center and failing miserably due to utter cluelessness.

  Priscilla

  At 02:31 PM 8/20/01, Chuck Larrieu wrote:
  >Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance
  for many
  >folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )
  >
  >two points:
  >
  >1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good
  learning
  >points
  >
  >2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter
  what. The
  >CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as
  well.
  >
  >without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being
  reviewed,
  >there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is
  something to
  >be learned that is applicable to one's studies.
  >
  >Chuck
  >
  >-Original Message-
  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf
  Of
  >Donald B Johnson jr
  >Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
  >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  >Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
  >
  >
  >I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning
  work should
  >be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group
  consulting.
  >Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing
  number of
  >narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this
  individual
  >doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they
  are
  >supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and
  highly
  >respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly
  agree,
  >but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
  >personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking
  for free
  >consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone
  chimes
  >in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets
  blasted. I
  >wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub
  and six
  >spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to
  place where
  >people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it
  should get
  >an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have
  cisco SE set
  >it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this
  is how
  >they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it
  is the
  >blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that
  the
  >people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't
  just know
  >the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy
  gear,
  >work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.
  >
  >- Original Message -
  >From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
  >To:
  >Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
  >Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
  >
  >
  > > When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again.
  Would all my
  > > messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again?
  That would
  >be
  > > annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than 

RE: Percentage on Cisco Exams [7:16590]

2001-08-20 Thread Dwayne Saunders

has the passing score for the ccna changed 
when I sat it in December last year the pass mark was 822
just wondering

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1000-300 = 700

700/100 = 7

So, 7 points = 1%

755-300= 455

455/7= 65%

822-300=522

522/7= 74%

of course, this may or may not be how it's done. Probably not.

-chris

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>
> They say that they scale it from 300 to 1000.  What is
> that?  To me scaling from 0 is easy, but I am not able
> to understand this.  Can someone please help me out
> with this.
>
> I received 822 on my CCNA and the passing score on
> that test was 755.  Can someone tell what my
> percentage is on this test?
>
> Similary I received 736 on BSCN and the passing score
> was 690.  Again how does it translate in percentage.
> I know that I did not get a high score on this test
> compared to CCNA, but percentages really make things
> easier to compare.
>
> Any help will be appreciated.
>
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Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]

2001-08-20 Thread Tony Medeiros

Let's keep the list the same,  I my opinion,  The mix of cert. posts along
with the  real world stuff make's it interesting.  Plus, it give the higher
level people a chance to help out their fellow man/women.  The CCIE list has
gotten so "test" centric it's got boring.
I like to "take" as well as to "learn"
 Sure your going to get low level questions.  Just ignore them and let the
junior guys get a "trill" out of helping another person

Tony ME.
#6172.

- Original Message -
From: "Chuck Larrieu" 
To: 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 11:31 AM
Subject: RE: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]


> Not that I disagree, Don, but this has been a source of annoyance for many
> folks for as long as I've been on the list ( around 2 years. )
>
> two points:
>
> 1) sometimes some of these work related scenarios provide good learning
> points
>
> 2) people ask these kinds of questions on all the lists, no matter what.
The
> CCIE list would get it's fair share of this kind of question as well.
>
> without having the list 100% moderated, with all messages being reviewed,
> there is no practical way to stop this. and sometimes there is something
to
> be learned that is applicable to one's studies.
>
> Chuck
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> Donald B Johnson jr
> Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 9:09 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
> I think that if there is a split, all these questions concerning work
should
> be split out. It is supposed to be about group study not group consulting.
> Over the time that I have been here there seems to be a growing number of
> narrowly worded questions to bail someone out at work, and this individual
> doesn't even seem to consult CCO most of the time, even though they are
> supporting a Cisco platform. The culture here seems to support and highly
> respect the intellectual property of others, which I whole-heartedly
agree,
> but it shows a lack of respect for those who consult for a living. I
> personally like giving "so called flames" to people who are looking for
free
> consulting work to hide there apparent laziness. Just like everyone chimes
> in when someone comes here and tries to sell certzone labs gets blasted. I
> wish that blatant " my boss wants me to set up a central frame hub and six
> spoke network what should I do" should get blasted or pointed to place
where
> people can consult for food. Paul any e-mail that has boss in it should
get
> an automated stock reply, check CCO, call cisco, buy gear, have cisco SE
set
> it up, have a nice day. Now I know people are going to say that this is
how
> they learn by posting real world questions and this is true but it is the
> blatant ones that I am talking about. Oh and keep this in mind that the
> people answering the these so called learning experiences didn't just know
> the answer, at some point they had to check CCO, contact Cisco, buy gear,
> work with Cisco SE, have a nice day.
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, August 17, 2001 7:40 PM
> Subject: Re: Associate and Professional Email Lists [7:16217]
>
>
> > When I go on vaction I unsubscribe and then subscribe again. Would all
my
> > messages go in the moderator's queue when I subscribed again? That would
> be
> > annoying for the moderator (and for me. ;-) Other than that, I think
it's
> a
> > good idea to have messages from a new subscriber go through the
moderator
> > for a while. As I'm sure you have considered, it's not a very "scalable"
> > idea,  though.
> >
> > I hope you don't divide the group again. The general networking
questions
> > are helpful to those studying for CCNP and CCDP. The diversity of
messages
> > (except for the flames, of course) are good for learning and represent
the
> > real world better than if we just got questions about passing scores,
etc.
> >
> > Thanks again for all you do for us!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > At 12:02 PM 8/17/01, Paul Borghese wrote:
> > >With an open group, you are going to have your share of noise.
> Everyone's
> > >ides of noise is different.  For example, to many this very e-mail is
> noise
> > >because it is not directly on subject.
> > >
> > >But there are some things we can do to help lessen the noise.  They are
> on
> > >my to-do list, just have been too busy.:
> > >
> > >1. Comprehensive FAQ - we need a new faq that can answer the questions
> that
> > >are asked over and over again.
> > >
> > >2. Split out the professional group from the general networking group.
> > >
> > >3. Setup a system where new users can not post directly to the group -
> This
> > >is the most difficult of the three ideas and will require substantial
> > >coding.  What I want is to have a system where when an e-mail arrives
(or
> > >from the newsfeed or website), if the poster has not been approved, it
> gets
> > >bounced into the moderators queue.  If

Re: Which Cisco router for SOHO/HOME Use ? [7:16583]

2001-08-20 Thread MikeN

The famous IT answer to this question would be "that depends". Not spending
much money is a subjective term relative to the amount of money you
make..is $500 too much or $1000 too much? How far are you going to take
your studies? Do you want to do ISL trunking at some point down the road?
Are you thinking of playing around with terminating VPN tunnels. Maybe
running CBAC on a dual interfaced router between your DSL router or cable
modem and your internal SOHO/HOME network? There are so many cool things to
play with, and the bigger the better! What is it that you would like to do?

My recommendation would be to get a 2621 router.then down the road
upgrade the flash and ram. You will be able to use this router as a frame
relay switch with the appropriate NM, terminate VPN tunnels, run CBAC, trunk
ISL, do all kinds of fun and crazy things with it. A lesser platform would
be able to some of the above but not all. If this is too expensive, then
take a look at the Cisco web site and check out the features of each of the
routers you are thinking about. I would get a 1700 series over a 1600 series
router but the 2524's aren't bad either. You won't be able run 3DES on
either the 1600 or 2500's. Take a look at www.cisco.com/go/fn to see what
features you can get on what platforms running what firmware feature
sets..a lot of what's and ifs variables.

HTH,
MikeN

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> What router would one want to purchase for mostly home use (I will want to
> put together a CCNP/CCIE Lab in the future but for now, I would just like
a
> Cisco router for my home network   My choices for now are
>
> 1605R
> 1720/1750
> 2524
> 26XX ?
>
> Is there any reason why the 1605 would not be enough ? I see a number of
> 2524's on EBay , are the a nice router for home ?  I would prefer to spend
> as little as possible of course but am willing to spend a little more for
a
> better router.




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RE: Which Cisco router for SOHO/HOME Use ? [7:16583]

2001-08-20 Thread Daniel Cotts

Generally "as little as possible" and "better router" are mutually
exclusive. Check out eBay for a 1750. It's modular. Can do voice with the
correct modules. There is a one port ethernet WIC. Also ADSL WIC. If you
have the budget then a 2620/2621 would be my first choice.

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> What router would one want to purchase for mostly home use (I 
> will want to
> put together a CCNP/CCIE Lab in the future but for now, I 
> would just like a
> Cisco router for my home network   My choices for now are
> 
> 1605R
> 1720/1750
> 2524
> 26XX ?
> 
> Is there any reason why the 1605 would not be enough ? I see 
> a number of
> 2524's on EBay , are the a nice router for home ?  I would 
> prefer to spend
> as little as possible of course but am willing to spend a 
> little more for a
> better router.
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RE: Which Cisco router for SOHO/HOME Use ? [7:16583]

2001-08-20 Thread Bill Carter

2524's are good because of the number of interfaces you get.  do the 2524
come with interface cards?? If no interface cards come with it all you get
is a 1 port Ethernet router.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/access/acs_fix/cis2500/2524/
boa/boaovr.htm

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What router would one want to purchase for mostly home use (I will want to
put together a CCNP/CCIE Lab in the future but for now, I would just like a
Cisco router for my home network   My choices for now are

1605R
1720/1750
2524
26XX ?

Is there any reason why the 1605 would not be enough ? I see a number of
2524's on EBay , are the a nice router for home ?  I would prefer to spend
as little as possible of course but am willing to spend a little more for a
better router.




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RE: Difficulty - CCIE written or CCNP [7:16504]

2001-08-20 Thread Chuck Larrieu

do not underestimate the CCIE written. the one I saw had a lot of things
that can fool the unwary, unsuspecting, and unprepared.

It was tougher than any of the CCNP tests I took. It was similar in many
respects to about half the things I saw on the CID test.

on the other hand, the CCIE written was not nearly so difficult as I had
imagined it would be. Perhaps because of the incremental approach via the
CCNP / CCDP route?

best wishes to you.

Chuck

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Would anyone who has taken the CCNP and the CCIE written exam
care to advise which is the hardest? I hear the CCIE written
exam is very basic. It certainly covers some simple topics but
would a candidate need to know networking to CCNP level or
higher to achieve thes pass mark? Put another way, how would you
compare two people, one with CCNP and not CCIE written, the
other with the CCIE written and not CCNP?




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best way to establish VPN between Australia & Europe [7:16621]

2001-08-20 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

G'Day gang,

Have a mate that has asked me the best way to create a VPN between office A
in
Geneva and office B here in Sydney. Only one server on each side needs to be
accessed by the other. Both servers are win2k.
Would it be best to create the VPN via
* Cisco routers establishing and maintaining the VPN
* Windows 2000 box's using their own VPN apps
* Other

If any one has a how to on this I would also appreciate it. Any other
comments
are welcome.

Thanks
John
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Re: best way to establish VPN between Australia & Europe [7:16624]

2001-08-20 Thread MikeN

It would be my preference to create a 3DES VPN IPSec tunnel between 2 Cisco
routers using ESP, DH group 2, and SHA. You could define interesting traffic
via ACL to allow only the two servers to be encrypted and pass through the
tunnel. Before making a final decision, I would certainly look at your
current processes cpu and if your platform supports 3DES. Encrypting can
take a toll on  router resources. Remember, they can be pretty busy doing
what they are designed to do.route/switch packets. It would be even more
preferable to terminate the tunnel on 2 Cisco PIX firewalls or 2 CheckPoint
firewalls. Being able to terminate the tunnel on you Internet access device
eliminates having to open protocol GRE on your outside interfaces for PPTP,
etc. Just a few of my thoughts on the subject.

HTH,
MikeN

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> G'Day gang,
>
> Have a mate that has asked me the best way to create a VPN between office
A
> in
> Geneva and office B here in Sydney. Only one server on each side needs to
be
> accessed by the other. Both servers are win2k.
> Would it be best to create the VPN via
> * Cisco routers establishing and maintaining the VPN
> * Windows 2000 box's using their own VPN apps
> * Other
>
> If any one has a how to on this I would also appreciate it. Any other
> comments
> are welcome.
>
> Thanks
> John
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Re: What Router for Routing Between VLANS [7:16609]

2001-08-20 Thread EA Louie

any router that supports VLAN trunking (802.1q or ISL).  The 2600 does if
equipped with a fastethernet interface.
see http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/473/50.shtml (I it got using a search
for intervlan routing)
which indicates the minimun router is the 2620

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> I have lent out my CCNP books & do not remember all the router models that
> can
> route between VLAN's.  I currently have a 4700M doing the job, but wanted
to
> know if a 2600 would route them.
>
> Thanks
> Phil
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