Re: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473]

2002-05-31 Thread fahim

Hi
Also make sure if you are using XP, disable the firewall feature in your LAN
Connection for your cable modem.
I had the same problem with XP, my vpn client connects but i cannot ping or
map my servers, after i disable the firewall feature it works fine.
i'm using vpn client 3.5.1.

fahim
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 Is the cable/dsl modem also doing any sort of firewalling or NAT'ting?  If
 so, open holes for IPSec and/or turn off firewall functionality on the
 cable/adsl modem and/or create a static translation for the workstation on
 the inside.
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 From: Paul
 To:
 Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:07 PM
 Subject: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473]


  Hi 
 
  I have setup a Pix 515 so that it authenticates and accepts a remote
 user
  via dial-up, allowing them full access to the corporate LAN. The only
 problem
  that I have is that the remote user cannot connect via cable modem/adsl
 etc
    the connection is initialised, the remote security gateway is
 contacted
   and the error message is Remote peer is no longer responding
...
 Has
  anyone ever come accross any issues similiar to this ??? Any help will
be
  greatly welcomed ...
 
  Sometimes ... I can get connected via cable modem/adsl etc ... but
cannot
  browse, ping or get access to any corporate site or applications ???
 
  I can get several people simultaneously dialed-up and vpn'd onto the
  corporate
  LAN .. and I am using Cisco VPN Client 3.0.6 .. I have also tried with
 client
  3.5 with the same results ...
 
  Kind regards ..
 
  Paul ..




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread cebuano

Hello, all.
Can we compile some kind of tips/tricks that people use to get the most
accurate
searches on the Documentation CD? I'd like to start relying more on it
versus CCO
since it's the only friend we have in the lab. Well, the proctor, i guess it
depends on
his mood :-/

Elmer

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From: Michael L. Williams 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:08 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]


 Chuck  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who
  have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL
 that
  you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
found
  on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
 knowing
  where to find things is very helpful.

 Chuck,

 Quick question..  I realize that knowing commands and being quick at
 configuration a requirement in the lab.  A CCIE friend of mine
suggested
 that I learn to find virtually everything instantly on Cisco's
Documentation
 CD.  Having said that, (and I'm asking because your post implied that you
 had taken it before), without breaking NDA (of course), is there really
time
 to look up anything on the CD?  I realize it's impossible to memorize
every
 single thing.. especially commands, but it seems to me that
referencing
 the CD could take even more time even if you know where to look.  Am I
 way off base here?

 Thanks for you input!

 Mike W.




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Cat8510 MSR/CSR + ATM and GigabitEthernet [7:45511]

2002-05-31 Thread TMS

Hello

1) I need to buy clean ATM Switch with few ATM OC3 interfaces.
I selected Cisco Catalyst 8510 family. And now I thinking do CSR
support ATM interfaces and can switching ATM cells ? Or I need
buy MSR...

2) I have one Cat8510 MSR without ARM module, and I'd like put in
it few Gigabit Ethernet modules. And the questions are:
- do MSR without ARM can do bridging (putting ATM PVC in Ethernet
  VLAN's and inversely)
- do MSR without ATM cat switch Ethernet frames between
  Ethernet ports ?

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RE: MCNS and boson [7:45499]

2002-05-31 Thread Maccubbin, Duncan

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Subject: MCNS and boson [7:45499]

Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out
of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am gonna
purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can
anybody help?

Shoaib

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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Phil Barker

Priscilla,
 I'm fairly certain that you will need to know
something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been
teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and
we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco
consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches.

We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout
Sem II  Sem III which utilises this equipment.

This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the
'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical
question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ?
You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within
15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to
get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900
is menu driven but you can drop out to command line
mode, which I would recommend.

Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably
wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the
software. It may well have been lifted from the source
code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to
the full command just in case.

Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just
mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v
802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go
into any real detail.

There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI
model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access
Control Lists and Hands on Config experience.


Phil.

 --- Priscilla Oppenheimer 
wrote:  I will be teaching a CCNA class next week.
I've
 never taught an intro class 
 before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's
 Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 
 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm
 fine with it. I have some 
 questions, however:
 
 Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite
 a bit of detail. 
 Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include
 this, so I'm not 
 planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a
 switch in the lab 
 probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the
 640-607 test has 
 Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
 
 Does anyone know if the test (which now includes
 router simulation 
 questions) allows one to use abbreviations for
 commands? (such as cop run 
 start instead of copy running-config
 startup-config)?
 
 Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says
 this many times.) I know 
 IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know
 that many Token Ring 
 NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't
 they fix that??? I would 
 have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have
 added support for 
 multicast by now.
 
 Thanks!
 
 Priscilla
 
 
 
 Priscilla Oppenheimer
 http://www.priscilla.com
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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Pricilla,

I was a technical author for a new CCNA book, and they had the Cat 1900 as
well.  I think it does cover the Cat 1900.

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Phil Barker  wrote in message
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 Priscilla,
  I'm fairly certain that you will need to know
 something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been
 teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and
 we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco
 consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches.

 We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout
 Sem II  Sem III which utilises this equipment.

 This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the
 'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical
 question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ?
 You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within
 15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to
 get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900
 is menu driven but you can drop out to command line
 mode, which I would recommend.

 Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably
 wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the
 software. It may well have been lifted from the source
 code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to
 the full command just in case.

 Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just
 mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v
 802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go
 into any real detail.

 There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI
 model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access
 Control Lists and Hands on Config experience.


 Phil.

  --- Priscilla Oppenheimer
 wrote:  I will be teaching a CCNA class next week.
 I've
  never taught an intro class
  before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's
  Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607
  Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm
  fine with it. I have some
  questions, however:
 
  Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite
  a bit of detail.
  Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include
  this, so I'm not
  planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a
  switch in the lab
  probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the
  640-607 test has
  Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
 
  Does anyone know if the test (which now includes
  router simulation
  questions) allows one to use abbreviations for
  commands? (such as cop run
  start instead of copy running-config
  startup-config)?
 
  Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says
  this many times.) I know
  IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know
  that many Token Ring
  NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't
  they fix that??? I would
  have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have
  added support for
  multicast by now.
 
  Thanks!
 
  Priscilla
 
  
 
  Priscilla Oppenheimer
  http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Robert Kulagowski

I ended up taking the 607 test twice (test crashed the first time after I
completed it and the score report was nothing but uninterpreted PCL code)
and neither time did I have any questions which specifically related to the
Cat 1900.

The router simulator does allow you to use abbreviations.  Just not the ones
from IOS 11.x :)

Something that I thought was interesting was that they even managed to make
it slow.  Even though I was on a PIII, when it came time to save, it still
took a few seconds to build the configuration, just like you'd find on an
old 2500.





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Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]

2002-05-31 Thread Khalid Nayyar

I bought a Chatsworth Rack for my routers and switches but unfortunately I
cannot screw the bolts into my wooden floor. I was thinking about using a
piece of wood for the base. My question is does anyone have a setup similar
to this at home and if so could they please help out with what kind of wood
I would need and what kind of bolts/screws I would need to use? And what
kind of drill would do the job? I am kind of stuck here with this rack so
any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.

Khalid 


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RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Marshal Schoener

No offense, but all this talk about paper certs vs. 'real deserving certs'
is in my opinion foolish!!!
No matter how people get certified, they are working hard for it.

Of course you have to read books in order to get certified.  That is what
testing in ALL educational facilities is based on.  

I could just see professors in College saying, Don't read the math book.
Just do math and take the tests, or else you will be a paper graduate.
It is ridiculous!!!

The fact of the matter is, there is a lot to be learned by experience.
There is also a lot to be learned by reading and studying.
There are things an experienced person will not know that a 'reader' will
know.
There are things that a 'reader' will not know that an experienced person
will know.

All in all, the certification is just another asset a person has to make him
or herself more marketable!

Even experience isn't a guarantee of knowledge.  You can have tons of
experience on OSPF and not know a thing about EIGRP or BGP

Anyway, take it easy and good luck.


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Yeah I do think it will be paper because with the Boson, Lammle, and other 
vendor books along with Cisco Press suddenly every one will just get it 
and it will be harder to distinguish who really knows it or not.

I know people will get it yes but I don't want it to be a paper cert like 
some people have CCNP/DPs and don't know anything about OSPF or VLANS.

Just gets me sad.  Part of the reason I got this cert last year was 
because there weren't any boson or study aides yet.   It was a better test 
that way.  Of course I was already doing security so that is besides the 
point.  Finally I thought I could have a more unique Cisco cert without 
killing myself ie CCIE. 

I'm not the only one with it.  Here in Japan, my boss was first and my 
current co-worker was second.  Perhaps I was number 10 or something.  (I 
was the 5th CISSP here).  The problem is that one of these guys doesn't 
know how to do things like ACLs!  I got to help him out with it and he 
can't configure Cisco IDS.  Just makes me sad.  At least I get paid 
more... :-)

What can I say?  I don't like it when people can just read a book and pass 
the test and they don't know conf t.  You defination of a paper cert is 
the same as mine.  No offensive taken.  I just think that if you want to 
do CSS1 you should be using PIXs, VPNs, and IDSs just like when I got the 
CCNP I was on 7200/3600/2600 6509/5xxx/2948s daily. 

Theo







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I think that's a pretty pessimistic outlook for cert... wow... if a 
book
coming out convinces you all of a sudden your cert will be paper, .
wow...

I can't explain it, but that comment really bums me out... I can't
believe all of this talk about paper this and paper that.. geez, a
book comes out for a cert and already someone (that has the damn cert) is
already calling it paper...

I guess I've always been under the impression that the PERSON that was
shoddily certified (studied to pass a test instead of learning the
material) was a paper whatever i.e.  someone that passed the CCNA 
just
by sheer memorization after barrelling thru practice exams was a paper
CCNA as opposed to someone who actually learned all of the 
information.

Seriously, it sounds to me like your concern isn't paper anything, it's
that you won't be the only one with CSS1/CCIP or whatever...  I have 
to
ask Did you really think that you'd be the 'only' one with that
certification forever?

I guess the reason your comment bums me out is because you're implying 
that
just because there are study materials for a book (especially one from 
Sybex
with the Lammle name on it) that it will be so common that you can get a
CSS! with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.  Do you really think 
that
one book will have that much of an impact?

I appreciate you feelings, and I didn't intend for this post to be an
attack on you I guess I'm just stunned that your outlook for the 
value
of a cert could be affected by just one book so much.

Mike W.

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 Man this bums me out.

 Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.

 Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
 cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(

 Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
 study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
 book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1 
with
 my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.

 Booo!

 Theo

 hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled 

RE: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]

2002-05-31 Thread Mike Sweeney

3/4 in plywood makes a pretty good base.. If you use *carriage* bolts, there
will not be anything sticking down from the bottom. The smooth head is
underneath and the nuts would be on top.

I would consider using that and then running a mount to the ceiling to help
keep things from rocking back and forth too much. Another thought is to find
something thats not too ugly but heavy to put on the outside edge of the
plywood.

I'm sure others will have some suggestions on this excerise :)

MikeS



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Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]

2002-05-31 Thread Hitesh Pathak R

Dear Group
I'm getting following error message on to my catalyst 2924 switch console.
Can anybody explain what does this mean ??
 
*Mar  2 17:58:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 relearning 7 addrs per
min
*Mar  2 17:59:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 16 addrs per
min
*Mar  2 18:00:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 21 addrs per
min
*Mar  2 18:01:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 9 addrs per
min
*Mar  2 18:02:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 18 addrs per
min
 
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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Oct 20,  5:38pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
}
} Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. 
} Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not 
} planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab 
} probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has 
} Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??

 Other's have mentioned the importance of this and I would just
like to echo them.  I see too many people that think they know ethernet
when in fact they don't know much at all.  An introduction to things
like STP, VTP, VLANs, etc. is very important.

} Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation 
} questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run 
} start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?

 Just to nitpick, this is still an abbrevation.  The full command
is copy system:running-config nvram:startup-config.

} Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know 

 This is CCNA.  It still uses class based addressing...

}-- End of excerpt from Priscilla Oppenheimer




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RE: Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]

2002-05-31 Thread Michael Williams

The following information was found by a quick search on Google for
'%RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP'.  Here's the URL with this information as well as other
RTD errors: (watch for wrap)

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/scg/scg_syse.htm

---

RTD Messages
This section contains the Runtime Diagnostic (RTD) error messages.

RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP [chars] relearning [dec] addrs per min 

Explanation   Normally, MAC addresses are learned once on a port.
Occasionally, when a switched network reconfigures, due to either manual or
STP reconfiguration, addresses learned on one port are relearned on a
different port. However, if there is a port anywhere in the switched domain
that is looped back to itself, addresses will jump back and forth between
the real port and the port that is in the path to the looped back port. In
this message, [chars] is the interface, and [dec] is the number of addresses
being learnt.

Action Determine the real path (port) to the MAC address. Use debug
ethernet-controller addr to see the alternate path-port on which the address
is being learned. Go to the switch attached to that port. Note that show cdp
neighbors is useful in determining the next switch. Repeat this procedure
until the port is found that is receiving what it is transmitting, and
remove that port from the network.

---

HTH,
Mike W.


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Re: failover only licence on PIX [7:45475]

2002-05-31 Thread Yonkerbonk

Hi Richard,

The FO is just a license and can be upgraded. The
hardware is all the same. So is the software for that
matter. Its the activation key that lets you use the
software and hardware the way you want or can afford.

Michael

--- nettable_walker  wrote:
 5/30/2002   6:35pm  Thursday
 
 Professionals,
 
 I have seen some deals on ebay for PIX 515's with
 FO license.  I also do a
 lot of work on 2 sets of 525's
 Is the FO license upgradeable to a regular license ?
  Is the FO something in
 the chip set  has anyone tried to modify it ?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Richard
 
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Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]

2002-05-31 Thread nrf

Wes Stevens  wrote in message
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 On your point one I agree with you. Especially in a market like we have
 today companies with positions where they need someone at a jncie level
they
 may not need to look too far to fill their positions.

 On your second point where would you get a list of the jncie's with names
 and addresses? Juniper for sure is not going to give them out. Most of
them
 work for Juniper and they are not going to make it any easier then it is
to
 steal them.  Juniper is probably like cisco was in the early days. The
best
 way to get a good engineer is to steal them from Juniper.

I already answered this privately to you.  I'll spare the newsgroups the
details, but the short answer is contacts and back-channels.  For example,
clearly Juniper the company will not  give out such information in a formal
request.  But let's just say that if you know the right people, you should
be able to get this information in an unofficial capacity without much
problem.  And anyway, if your job is recruiting, it's your job to make sure
you know the right people.



 As far a knowing someone that has always been a factor. Peter if you are
 reading this, when Juniper gets ready to open up a Latin America office
I'm
 your man :)


 From: nrf
 Reply-To: nrf
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
 Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:39 -0400
 
 My point is simply that it is extremely difficult to extrapolate overall
 value from demand alone.   I see this mistake being made time and time
 again, and not just with Juniper/Cisco, but also with Windows vs. UNIX,
or
 things like that.
 
 Besides, I would also add 2 points to the equation:
 
 #1) The problem with looking just a job boards to gauge demand.
 
 The simple fact is, most jobs are not publicly advertised.  Surely you've
 seen the studies from CNN that have shown that 90% of all available jobs
 are
 never publicly posted, and are obtained just by knowing the right people
 and
 employee referrals.Companies seem to prefer things this way because
it
 is a better quality-check than soliciting a mass of resumes (i.e., an
 employee is unlikely to refer somebody that he knows to be bad because if
 that guy is hired and flames out, that employee would be professionally
 embarrassed).  How this impacts something like Juniper (or UNIX or
 whatever)
 is that it seems that the high-end jobs are more likely to not be
publicly
 posted because it seems that the more high-end and important the job (and
 on
 average, a Juniper job tends to be higher-end than the average Cisco
job),
 the more quality-checks you need.  I believe this is why you hardly ever
 see
 public postings for positions like CEO, even though I know that many
 companies are looking for one.
 
 #2) The warping of small numbers.  This is somewhat related to point #1.
 What this is all about is that when the numbers of available candidates
are
 small, it is often inefficient to publicly post a job for them, rather a
 company who wants one should just individually contact each available
 candidate, depending on how many there really are.  For example, let's
say
 your local NFL team loses its quarterback in mid-season to a
season-ending
 injury and decides they need a replacement to make a playoff run.  Are
they
 going to advertise it on Monster?  No, of course not.  The head coach
knows
 full well that there are only a handful of available guys in the world
who
 could reasonably step in and lead their team, and the coach probably
 already
 knows them by name and how to contact them.  There's no need to publicly
 advertise a job when you already know who the prospective candidates are.
 
 This might apply to the JNCIE.  I don't know if it does, but it might.
 Consider this.  There are only 65 of them.  Within a day or two  of
 investigating, I could probably find out all their names and contact
info,
 because there really aren't that many of them. So would I really need to
 publicly advertise my job?   Maybe, maybe not.  I think only when the
 numbers get large do the benefits of publicly posting become apparent.
 
 
 
 Wes Stevens  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   nrf, you and Peter both make good points on what is advertized on the
 job
   sites may not tell the whole Juniper job story. The supply may well be
 low
   enough that there are jobs to be found. Still I would think that there
 would
   be some jobs advertized. Even a search on Dice for just Juniper did
not
 turn
   up much. A few jobs for a C++ person with Juniper skills and a few low
 level
   type jobs was all. It really does not matter for most of us as there
is
 no
   way to get that cert unless you work on Juniper equipment at work.
 Building
   your own Juniper lab at home is not realistic.
  
   By the way Juniper is looking like they will come in with sales in the
 $540m
   range down almost 40% from last year and 

Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] -Reply [7:45516]

2002-05-31 Thread Jose A Rola

Just starting.

 Tom Scott  05/29/02 09:10pm 
Neal Rauhauser 402-301-9555 wrote:

 I'm back to reading groupstudy after an eighteen month abscence. My
 CCNP/CCDP certs which I finished 12/2000 and 1/2001 are working wonders
 career wise, but I am doing a lot of carrier type stuff now and I've
 lined up projects that pretty much cover the BSCI, MCAST+QoS, and MPLS
 tests for CCIP - no reason not to get it done if I am going to do the
 reading anyway.

   I am curious to know the stats - how many people have completed this
 cert?

I'm sorry to see there are no responses in this thread.

Maybe that's a sign we should give up on CCIP study groups for now and wait
till
there's more interest in it after, say, 2005 or even 2010. :-(

-- TT




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
} 
} Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who
} have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL
that
} you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found
} on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
knowing
} where to find things is very helpful.

 eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the
master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).

}-- End of excerpt from Chuck




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RE: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]

2002-05-31 Thread Daniel Cotts

Unless you live in an area prone to earthquakes I see no need to fasten the
rack to the floor. Obviously, put any heavy gear near the bottom. A
rack-mount UPS would be ideal. Even something like a 7000 router is balanced
for telco rack mount. I have used Chatsworths with roller wheels in wiring
closets. We would pull them out from the wall to get behind them. HTH

 -Original Message-
 From: Khalid Nayyar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]
 
 
 I bought a Chatsworth Rack for my routers and switches but 
 unfortunately I
 cannot screw the bolts into my wooden floor. I was thinking 
 about using a
 piece of wood for the base. My question is does anyone have a 
 setup similar
 to this at home and if so could they please help out with 
 what kind of wood
 I would need and what kind of bolts/screws I would need to 
 use? And what
 kind of drill would do the job? I am kind of stuck here with 
 this rack so
 any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Khalid




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IP Helpers for Multiple purposes? [7:45528]

2002-05-31 Thread Michael Williams

Silly question.  I know you can have multiple IP Helper addresses configured
on an interface.  But doesn't the router attempt each server in the order
they're entered for all broadcasts that it's configured to forward?

My question is, let's say I have a DHCP server in one TCP/IP subnet and I
have something else in another subnet (let's say a custom application) that
needs to receive broadcasts for some reason (this is a totally hypothetical
situation).

Is it possible to tell the router to forward all broadcasts on port 67 to a
specific IP/subnet and also forward all broadcasts on (say) port 2000 to a
different IP/subnet?

Just curious I could see where this would be handy..

Mike W.


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Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Thomas Larus

If you think a Lammle book is so great that it will make it easy to anyone
to get the cert that you worked so hard for, then you are giving Todd Lammle
more credit than he deserves.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Man this bums me out.

 Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.

 Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
 cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(

 Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
 study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
 book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1 with
 my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.

 Booo!

 Theo

 hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
 herehum




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Re: Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]

2002-05-31 Thread MADMAN

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35wc/sc/swgerror.htm#xtocid644512

  Dave

Hitesh Pathak R wrote:
 
 Dear Group
 I'm getting following error message on to my catalyst 2924 switch console.
 Can anybody explain what does this mean ??
 
 *Mar  2 17:58:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 relearning 7 addrs per
 min
 *Mar  2 17:59:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 16 addrs per
 min
 *Mar  2 18:00:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 21 addrs per
 min
 *Mar  2 18:01:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 9 addrs per
 min
 *Mar  2 18:02:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 18 addrs per
 min
 
 regds
-- 
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Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45443]

2002-05-31 Thread Yasin Rahim

Hi,

Check our website, http://www.braincert.com/

We have a CCIP forums and tons of information to get you started.

Thanks


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RE: Materials on Internet. [7:45426]

2002-05-31 Thread Yasin Rahim

Hi,

Check our website, http://www.braincert.com

BrainCert Offers FREE online practice exams, Study guides, Router labs,
Forums and resources for Cisco CCIE,CCNP,CCNA,CCDP,CCDA and CCIP
certifications.

Thanks


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RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Marshal Schoener

I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
study.  


Have you tried a job in researching atmospheres and temperatures on Mars?!?
I hear not too many people are studying that!!!

The fact is, people will flock to where the opportunities are!
Why would you want a certification that nobody else wants?  A certification
that nobody wants is obviously not in very high demand in the work place...

You go ahead and get your 'CSRTDFGAE' certification that nobody else knows
about... Then have fun looking for a job that requires it ;-)
I will stick to Cisco, Microsoft, security, etc etc etc.

Good Luck,




-Original Message-
From: Thomas Larus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:30 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]


If you think a Lammle book is so great that it will make it easy to anyone
to get the cert that you worked so hard for, then you are giving Todd Lammle
more credit than he deserves.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Man this bums me out.

 Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.

 Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
 cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(

 Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
 study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
 book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1 with
 my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.

 Booo!

 Theo

 hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
 herehum




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Re: MCNS and boson [7:45499]

2002-05-31 Thread Shoaib Waqar

thanks for the info, but what is 'Kaeo' which u
mentioned?

Shoaib

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 You really don't need the Boson for the MCNS.  Just
 get the book and get 
 Kaeo and read them until you can't read any more and
 then just pass the 
 test.
 
 Oh yeah, get a PIX and configure it!  Oh about a VPN
 concentrator 3060? 
 Radius and TACACS+ interest you?
 
 Oh I'm having a bad day today B. :-(
 
 Sad Theo
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Shoaib Waqar 
 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 05/31/2002 01:50 PM
 Please respond to Shoaib Waqar
 
  
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 cc: 
 Subject:MCNS and boson [7:45499]
 
 
 Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out
 of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am
 gonna
 purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can
 anybody help?
 
 Shoaib
 
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CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)
 
I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam,
which I neglected somewhat during preparation.

I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are
NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson
#1 focuses on the other networking topics.
If you can, you should purchase both tests. 

For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA
and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on
until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I
repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking
where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly
before the test.

Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all
those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly
want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several
times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out
of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.


Pierre-Alex



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RE: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]

2002-05-31 Thread John McCartney

Thanks to everyone for your input, I heard it wasn't that bad compared to
the other 3. If you know the material from those it shouldn't be that bad.
Plus I have some SNA experience from way back in 89' - wow dating myself. I
hope to read/study/do home labs and pass by mid July.

Thanks again to all for input.

Remember, wherever you go - there you are.

John


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Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread sam sneed

If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go
get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe you
could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the
next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for
that.

My point?

You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed
when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you
won't appear as much of a GURU.

Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of
other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could remain
King of the Hill even if its in your own mind.

Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant.




 wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Man this bums me out.

 Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.

 Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
 cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(

 Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
 study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
 book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1 with
 my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.

 Booo!

 Theo

 hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
 herehum




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Tacacs on routers and switches [7:45538]

2002-05-31 Thread Kerry

Morning,
  I am trying to deny access to our Router on the network, but allow access
on the switches only. I am Tacacs, is there a way of grouping switches
different from routers and assigning defferent security setting to them

Cheers




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Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Brunner Joseph

Yes well said thomas. If I had just relied on his ccna book 2 years ago, I
would have failed 640-507 (CCNA). I found so many errors and
things out of order (as a baby engineer). I ended up just reading the
miserable, poorly written odom book from cisco press. I threw that piece of
junk away, when I got to the part on ting and ted. If
people are so stupid, he has to make up bad stories to help people remember
the difference between routing and routed protocol, they should not be doing
this !

Certs don't mean much in companies (I make a grip with just a ccna).
So if you had your CSS1 and CCIP and I asked you a question, since your so
knowledgeable and you got it wrong, or beat around the bush-
interview ends and your resume goes in the garbage. With CSS1/CCIP written
on top. If your so insecure that you care what todd lammle is doing (who by
now should have one or more ccie's if he was really any good), your a pretty
scary guy.


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Security CCIE lab preparation [7:45524]

2002-05-31 Thread . .

What is a good lab preparation course for the Security CCIE?  i am aware 
about the ACP4 by Global knowledge and Security prepartion from ccbootcamp.  
Anyone has taken them and what do you think about this?  And any other lab 
bootcamp besides these two?



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Re: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]

2002-05-31 Thread Brad Ellis

Good comments Mike!

Khalid, another you might want to do is to mount your Cat5K (assuming you
have one) at the bottom of the rack, with the rack kit placed on the cat5k
as far forward as possible.  This will make your cat5k extend pretty far
back.  Push the rack all the way back against a wall, with the back end of
the cat5k resting against the wall.  This will help stabilize your rack
quite a bit.

One other thing, when you put 2500s in your rack, make sure to leave some
space between them as their fans are located at the bottom (this is one
lesson I learned the hard way).

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

Mike Sweeney  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 3/4 in plywood makes a pretty good base.. If you use *carriage* bolts,
there
 will not be anything sticking down from the bottom. The smooth head is
 underneath and the nuts would be on top.

 I would consider using that and then running a mount to the ceiling to
help
 keep things from rocking back and forth too much. Another thought is to
find
 something thats not too ugly but heavy to put on the outside edge of the
 plywood.

 I'm sure others will have some suggestions on this excerise :)

 MikeS




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Brad Ellis

John,

I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free
from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).

thanks,
-Brad Ellis
CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
Network Learning Inc
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
 }
 } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who
 } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL
 that
 } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
found
 } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
 knowing
 } where to find things is very helpful.

  eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
 12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
 shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
 for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
 need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
 you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
 name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the
 master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).

 }-- End of excerpt from Chuck




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RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D.  :-) Let's get a good four week
thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-)

I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
 
 If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go
 get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe
 you
 could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the
 next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for
 that.
 
 My point?
 
 You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed
 when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you
 won't appear as much of a GURU.
 
 Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of
 other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could
 remain
 King of the Hill even if its in your own mind.
 
 Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant.
 
 
 
 
  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Man this bums me out.
 
  Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.
 
  Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
  cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(
 
  Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
  study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
  book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1
 with
  my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.
 
  Booo!
 
  Theo
 
  hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
  herehum




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RE: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials that
cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you!

Congrats!

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  CCIE Written passed - Boson  [7:45535]
 
 I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)
  
 I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the
 exam,
 which I neglected somewhat during preparation.
 
 I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are
 NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as
 Boson
 #1 focuses on the other networking topics.
 If you can, you should purchase both tests. 
 
 For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA
 and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on
 until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I
 repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of
 networking
 where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them
 thoroughly
 before the test.
 
 Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all
 those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly
 want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track
 several
 times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time
 out
 of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.
 
 
 Pierre-Alex




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Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Hamid

What matterials do you mean by 29.95$?

Hamid
Kaminski, Shawn G  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials that
 cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you!

 Congrats!

 Shawn K.

  -Original Message-
  From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson  [7:45535]
 
  I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)
 
  I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the
  exam,
  which I neglected somewhat during preparation.
 
  I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and
are
  NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as
  Boson
  #1 focuses on the other networking topics.
  If you can, you should purchase both tests.
 
  For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little
SNA
  and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on
  until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation
I
  repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of
  networking
  where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them
  thoroughly
  before the test.
 
  Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all
  those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I
particularly
  want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track
  several
  times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time
  out
  of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.
 
 
  Pierre-Alex




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PIX 501 [7:45544]

2002-05-31 Thread jb

Team,
Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at the
same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco...
Thanks,
J




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Re: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Richard Tufaro

What do you call a person that graduates at the bottom of his/her medical
school class?


- doctor.

 Kaminski, Shawn G  05/31 1:47 PM 
But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D.  :-) Let's get a good four week
thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-)

I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-)

 -Original Message-
 From: sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Subject:  Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
 
 If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go
 get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe
 you
 could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the
 next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for
 that.
 
 My point?
 
 You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed
 when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you
 won't appear as much of a GURU.
 
 Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of
 other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could
 remain
 King of the Hill even if its in your own mind.
 
 Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant.
 
 
 
 
  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Man this bums me out.
 
  Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.
 
  Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper
  cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(
 
  Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
  study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
  book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1
 with
  my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.
 
  Booo!
 
  Theo
 
  hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
  herehum




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Another IP Helper question [7:45546]

2002-05-31 Thread Michael Williams

If you configure a router interface with multiple IP helpers that point to
specific IP addresses, does the router forward the broadcast to all of the
IP Helper addresses at one time?  Or does it go through them sequentially
somehow?

I've searched Cisco and the web and can't seem to get a definite answer.

TIA,
Mike W.


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RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Brian Zeitz

I am going for the CSS1, I probably could pass it in a short about of
time. Instead, I am getting hands on experience with security, and
getting all the theory as well. Not just for the CSS1, but for real
world security stuff. Security is a journey, not a final destination. I
think you need emphasize more on the real world hands on networking.
And not how many people passed a test. A CSS1 is not going to be a magic
pill, you have to understand how PIX, IDS and serity stuff works in a
real world environment, with hands on. You also have to prove this
when you get that security job. 

I think you got your CSS1 for all the wrong reasons. Because a book came
out, that bummed you out? You should work that much harder on your
security skills, instead of comparing yourself to everyone else. Those
of us with true networking skills do not worry about what entry-level
people are studying. And some of us even help out the newer people, kind
of how other people in this newsgroup/internet probably did for you
while you were going for your CSS1. 

How about specializing in some other newsgroup. 

Thank you

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

Man this bums me out.

Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.

Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper

cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(

Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to 
study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this 
book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1
with 
my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.

Booo! 

Theo

hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials 
herehum




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Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Michael Williams

sam sneed wrote:
 If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your
 intelligence go
 get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for
 those.

Work hard is about the only credit I am willing to give someone with a Ph.D
without further knowing them.  I would *never* say that a PhD proves ones
intellegence.  When I first started college, I used to think people with
PhDs were always smart people (they must be to have a PhD, right?)  Wrong. 
Working and living in a college town (a relatively small city with 2
colleges and a University), I found there are probably less than 25% of
people with PhDs that I would consider smart.  The rest just worked hard,
put up with a lot of political and administrative bull@#t and learned how
to become a 'zombie of academia'.  Most PhDs I know (which is a ton, I'd bet
way more than the avereage person knows) can't even balance a checkbook or
make logical decisions in everyday life... geez.

Sorry  I'm not going after you Sam  Just had to get that off my
chest =)

Mike W.


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Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Christian Fredrickson

Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what
books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this
exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all in advance,

Chris




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Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread neil K.

Hi Alex,

Congratulations.
I am also planning to take the CCIE written next month.I don't have any
material from Boson or from anybody else.
Could you please tell me which book to follow for the QoS / performance, and
how much of this stuff is asked in the exam.
Also is the will Boson Material help a lot?

Thanks,

Neil



Pierre-Alex Guanel  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)

 I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the
exam,
 which I neglected somewhat during preparation.

 I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are
 NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as
Boson
 #1 focuses on the other networking topics.
 If you can, you should purchase both tests.

 For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA
 and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on
 until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I
 repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of
networking
 where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them
thoroughly
 before the test.

 Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all
 those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly
 want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track
several
 times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time
out
 of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.


 Pierre-Alex




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Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread sam sneed

Point taken,

 I got my BS as a computer science major at Rutgers. The major was hard and
the midterm and final exams were alot harder than the certifciation exams
I've taken. I've spoken with people who recieved their Masters from there
and their curriclulum was even more demanding. I can't imagine how difficult
the Ph. D courses would be here or an academically superior university( and
I'm sure there's plenty better universities). I can guarantee you that they
would have to know their s$%t. As low level as my courses were we had to
know the TCP/IP very well. Some of our projects were writing client server
programs which required us to come up with our own protocols. Ex. a chat
server using UDP that would require us to write protocol to handle the
sequencing and retranmissions to ensure reliablity over UDP. These
assignments really taught more about TCP/IP than the CCNA CCNP books
required. IMHO there should be an exam solely on TCP/IP to get your CCNP.
Perhaps using Richard Stevens TCP/IP illustrated as the textbook.

 My point was that if our friend with the CSS1 is looking to accomplish
something that noone else will easily achieve shoot for the Ph. D.  I should
have been more clear. A Ph D in a bul**t major from a bul**t college won;t
get any respect from me either. But I will give a  person with a Ph D. in
Computer Science or any engineering  from a decent university alot more
respect than the average CCNP,CSS1 or whatever.

Michael Williams  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 sam sneed wrote:
  If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your
  intelligence go
  get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for
  those.

 Work hard is about the only credit I am willing to give someone with a
Ph.D
 without further knowing them.  I would *never* say that a PhD proves ones
 intellegence.  When I first started college, I used to think people with
 PhDs were always smart people (they must be to have a PhD, right?)  Wrong.
 Working and living in a college town (a relatively small city with 2
 colleges and a University), I found there are probably less than 25% of
 people with PhDs that I would consider smart.  The rest just worked hard,
 put up with a lot of political and administrative bull@#t and learned how
 to become a 'zombie of academia'.  Most PhDs I know (which is a ton, I'd
bet
 way more than the avereage person knows) can't even balance a checkbook or
 make logical decisions in everyday life... geez.

 Sorry  I'm not going after you Sam  Just had to get that off my
 chest =)

 Mike W.




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Re: Another IP Helper question [7:45546]

2002-05-31 Thread Steve Boer

Any IP helpers that you configure will be broadcast to all the addresses in
your configs.
- Original Message -
From: Michael Williams 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:32 PM
Subject: Another IP Helper question [7:45546]


 If you configure a router interface with multiple IP helpers that point to
 specific IP addresses, does the router forward the broadcast to all of the
 IP Helper addresses at one time?  Or does it go through them sequentially
 somehow?

 I've searched Cisco and the web and can't seem to get a definite answer.

 TIA,
 Mike W.




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RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Odette II

JB,

Honestly, I would look to ebay for any PIX 6.x manuals that someone is
selling.  I believe it is cheaper than ordering the full set of docs
from Cisco (this of course is with the assumption that you would like to
have hardcopy to go by).

If you don't care what your source is... go to Cisco's website, drill
down under documentation for the PIX, and start downloading all the PDFs
you care to have on the subject.

This will be your best bet for learning to configure from the command
line your new toy.  For learning security practices, you will need to
look to other documentation, as this is more of a conceptual topic, and
is covered very lightly in the Cisco Pix Docs... 

HTHs,
Mark

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jb
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:22 PM
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Subject: PIX 501 [7:45544]

Team,
Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at
the
same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco...
Thanks,
J




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Token Ring and multicasts [7:45554]

2002-05-31 Thread Priscilla Oppenheimer

At 11:21 AM 5/31/02, FRANKD wrote:
Hi Priscilla,

What I did find was that in multi-cast token ring, it uses functional 
addressing.  Search Cisco for token ring functional addressing.

Try this one in particular:

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/np1_c/1cmulti.htm#xtocid2250942

Good Luck,

Frank

Thanks for the answer Frank. Please send answers to the group, not to my 
individual address. (I only do multicasting! ;-)

That document has to do with IP multicast. I wasn't asking about IP 
multicast, but the fact that IP multicast uses a functional address on 
Token Ring is a good hint. Rumor has it that you need to know that for some 
Cisco tests. ;-)

Here's the issue:

IEEE says that the first bit transmitted in a data-link-layer header is the 
Individual/Group (I/G) bit. 1 = group. 0 = individual. Group also means 
multicast. If all bits in the destination address are 1s, then it's a 
broadcast, a special case of multicast or group.


In canonical Little Endian format (Ethernet), the first bit transmitted is 
the least significant, low-order, right-most bit. For example, CDP sends to 
the multicast address 01-00-0C-CC-CC-CC. Notice that the least significant 
bit in the first byte (01) is a 1.

In non-canonical Bit Endian format (Token Ring), the first bit transmitted 
is the most significant, high-order, left-most bit.

I'm glad to see that Wendell Odom removed the discussion of Little Endian 
versus Big Endian from the latest version of the CCNA book, because the 
previous edition had it gunked up.


Now, back to the real question. I know that IEEE says that 802.5 Token Ring 
supports multicast, i.e. the setting of the I/G bit. In fact, the IBM TR 
Reference Manual supports it too.

However, Token Ring NIC vendors didn't support it in the past. This caused 
problems for IP Multicast, DECnet, AppleTalk, and many other upper layers 
that use multicasting.


Some Cisco classes and books teach multicast as if it's only an IP thing. 
That's wrong.


On Token Ring, a lot of upper layers had to rely instead on Token Ring 
functional addresses. Token Ring says that if the first bit transmitted of 
the third byte is a zero, then it's a functional address. Functional 
addresses are used for sending to the Active Monitor, to all bridges, to 
LAN Manager, etc. All Token Ring NICs can handle these addresses properly, 
and Token Ring drivers allow software to tell the NIC which functional 
addresses to listen to.

Because the NICs and drivers didn't support multicast, upper layers made 
use of these functional addresses instead. I remember that the AppleTalk 
developers had to go to all sorts of shenanigans to get their multicasts 
for zones to work right, using functional instead of multicast addresses.

It appears from RFC 1469, that for IP multicast it was decided that the 
functional address C0-00-00-04-00-00 would be used. That's in Big Endian 
(non-canonical) format. Notice that it's Group/Locally administered and 
functional. It is not guaranteed to be uniquely used for IP multicast. 
Other upper layers could use it too.

Anyway, that's the history. I was wondering if the problem was ever fixed. 
Did Token Ring NIC vendors start supporting real multicast ever, or do 
upper layer developers still need to use a functional address?

I think that the problem was never fixed (or at least that developers don't 
assume that it was fixed.)

The link that Frank sent, although written years ago, seems to be 
up-to-date and implies that IP multicast on Token Ring uses a functional 
address.

I also found an RFC 2470 that specifies IPv6 on Token Ring. It uses 
functional addressees too.

On the other hand, some applications may send to a multicast address that 
isn't also a functional address, but I haven't found any. I think to play 
it safe, developers assume that the Token Ring NICs understand functional 
addresses, but not necessarily multicast.

BTW, Radia Perlman's new edition still says this too. She didn't update 
that discussion, probably because it's still an issue on Broken Ring.

Priscilla



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Re: PIX 501 [7:45544]

2002-05-31 Thread sam sneed

I heard this book was ok from other group memebrs. Haven;t read it myslef
yet:

Managing Cisco Network Security
by Mike Wenstrom


jb  wrote in message
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 Team,
 Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at
the
 same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco...
 Thanks,
 J




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OOB Testing [7:45556]

2002-05-31 Thread Mark Godfrey

Group,

I would like help with writting a script that dials out to all my
out-of-band 56k modems connected to my terminal servers and verify
connectivity. If connectivity is not working it would send out an email to
the Engineer telling the name of the device not working. Any help would be
appriciated.

Thanks,

MG




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread MADMAN

We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies
as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I don't even
know if they print them anymore.

  Dave

Brad Ellis wrote:
 
 John,
 
 I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free
 from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).
 
 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
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  On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
  }
  } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks
who
  } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL
  that
  } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
 found
  } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
  knowing
  } where to find things is very helpful.
 
   eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
  12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
  shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
  for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
  need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
  you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
  name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the
  master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).
 
  }-- End of excerpt from Chuck
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RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]

2002-05-31 Thread Mike Sweeney

I will offer up three suggestions

Cisco Secure PIX firewalls / Cisco Press

Cisco Security / Global Knowledge
This is my second choice. I liked the layout and the information was
presented pretty well.

Cisco Scure Internet Security Solutions / Cisco Press
This one I found the most useful with configs and line by line explanations
to what was being done in the config


I have not yet played with any of the Labs available. soon though :)

MikeS




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Friday Funnies [7:45559]

2002-05-31 Thread John Neiberger

Forward to me by a coworker, from the Shark Tank at ComputerWorld:

---
Shark Tank: And it's the prettiest little hub you ever saw

Business is booming for this manufacturer, so the production
management group decides to expand into some long-unused office space
adjoining the shop. Of course, I was not made aware of this plan
beforehand, grumbles a systems manager pilot fish.

So when he gets a call complaining that a PC on the shop floor is
down, fish checks it out and determines the trouble is in the network.
I backtracked to the unused office space where the nearest network
hub
was located, and found it sitting on the file cabinet it had always
sat
on.

But the hub and file cabinet are now on the other side of the room --
and the network wires are dangling uselessly from the wall.

Fish doesn't know who's responsible for doing this, so he curses under
his breath while he mounts the hub to the wall and hooks it up again.

Things were fine for a couple of days, then I got another call from
the guy on the shop floor, says fish. Same symptoms.

He runs back to the unused office and discovers that the walls have
been freshly spray-painted. Oddly, while the hub was no longer where
I
mounted it, there was a hub-shaped patch of unpainted wall there,
fish
says.

I located the freshly painted hub, scraped and scrubbed it until I
could make out the status lights, cursed under my breath again and
remounted the thing to the wall.

Fish still can't find the maintenance worker who won't keep his hands
off the hub. But I alerted his supervisor that he needs to stop
disconnecting my equipment, says fish.

Less than 48 hours later, fish's phone rings again: same PC, same
problem. A quick hike to the empty office confirms that the hub is
gone
once more.

The well-intentioned but incredibly thick-headed maintenance guy had
taken it out to the paint shop to clean it up with steel wool and
solvents, fish says.

He rescues the hub yet again, swears a blue streak at the maintenance
guy and mounts the hub on the wall one more time.

The maintenance worker doesn't last another week, fish says. But the
hub is still mounted to the wall -- half-painted and virtually free of
legible labels, but working reliably nonetheless.




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Re: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Lowell Sharrah

I am trying to find out the same thing so any assistance would be
appreicated.  Thanks.

 Christian Fredrickson  05/31/02 02:47PM

Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so,
what
books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on
this
exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all in advance,

Chris




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Shawn Heisey

I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a
smartnet contract.  It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on
your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can
get for free.

http://www.cisco.com/upgrade

Thanks,
Shawn

MADMAN wrote:
 
 We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies
 as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I don't even
 know if they print them anymore.
 
   Dave
 
 Brad Ellis wrote:
 
  John,
 
  I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals
free
  from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).




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VPN Client (CVPN-CLNT-35-K9) [7:45561]

2002-05-31 Thread Jablonski, Michael

Does anyone know any retailer carrying cisco's vpn client (CVPN-CLNT-35-K9)
in stock?  Key word is, in stock...  quickest I see it available is 2+
weeks.

Thanx,
mikej

~~~
Michael Jablonski
ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc.
161 North Clark St.
9th Flr
Chicago, IL  60601-2468
PH: 312.884.2996 
FAX: 312.278.5550
~~~




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RE: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

How true!

 -Original Message-
 From: Richard Tufaro [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:25 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
 
 What do you call a person that graduates at the bottom of his/her medical
 school class?
 
 
 - doctor.
 
  Kaminski, Shawn G  05/31 1:47 PM 
 But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D.  :-) Let's get a good four week
 thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-)
 
 I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From:   sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent:   Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Subject:Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
  
  If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence
 go
  get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe
  you
  could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the
  next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you
 for
  that.
  
  My point?
  
  You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed
  when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you
  won't appear as much of a GURU.
  
  Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of
  other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could
  remain
  King of the Hill even if its in your own mind.
  
  Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant.
  
  
  
  
   wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Man this bums me out.
  
   Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out.
  
   Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a
 paper
   cert.  All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-(
  
   Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to
   study.  For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this
   book comes out, even more clones will appear.  Soon I can get a CSS1
  with
   my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11.
  
   Booo!
  
   Theo
  
   hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials
   herehum




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RE: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Well, if the moderators let this through, I'll probably get flamed to death
because I'm always pushing CCxx Productions. Why? Because I wrote most of
the materials. However, I can guarantee that they cover the exact same
topics as Boson at a much better price. The difference is that you get the
materials in Microsoft Word format instead of a test engine. But the
advantage of that is that you can transport the materials anywhere you want.
With Boson, you can only put the materials on one PC.

Flame away

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: Hamid [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:02 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
 
 What matterials do you mean by 29.95$?
 
 Hamid
 Kaminski, Shawn G  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials
 that
  cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you!
 
  Congrats!
 
  Shawn K.
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson  [7:45535]
  
   I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)
  
   I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the
   exam,
   which I neglected somewhat during preparation.
  
   I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and
 are
   NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as
   Boson
   #1 focuses on the other networking topics.
   If you can, you should purchase both tests.
  
   For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little
 SNA
   and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO +
 hands-on
   until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of
 preparation
 I
   repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of
   networking
   where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them
   thoroughly
   before the test.
  
   Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to
 all
   those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I
 particularly
   want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track
   several
   times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some
 time
   out
   of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.
  
  
   Pierre-Alex




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Jeff Harris

Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract
on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little
getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier
Partner as well..



-- 

Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer
CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote:
 I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a
 smartnet contract.  It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on
 your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can
 get for free.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/upgrade
 
 Thanks,
 Shawn
 
 MADMAN wrote:
  
  We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies
  as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I don't even
  know if they print them anymore.
  
Dave
  
  Brad Ellis wrote:
  
   John,
  
   I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals
 free
   from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).




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RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Unless you've got a lot of Cisco experience, I still think that taking the
individual exams is the way to go because of the amount of material you need
to know. However, for the Foundations, the questions are pulled from the
BSCN, BCMSN, and BCRAN question pools. So, you need to study the same books
that you would use if you took the exams individually. Probably the Cisco
Press books Building Scalable Cisco Networks, Cisco LAN Switching (or
Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks), and Building Cisco Remote
Access Networks would be a good place to start. 

And, of course, CCxx Productions study materials. :-)

Shawn K.

Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions 

 -Original Message-
 From: Christian Fredrickson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:47 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
 
 Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what
 books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on
 this
 exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated.
 
 Thank you all in advance,
 
 Chris




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FW: Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465]

2002-05-31 Thread GEORGE

Im going to try it thanks!!!

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465]

i had the same problem; it has nothing to do with 5 c classes of ip or
in my
case 1 IP on the outside for X number of internal users. Either
something is
wrong with the pix 6.2 Code, or it has very aggressive timeouts. Some of
the
problems you will see are short time outs on downloads, AIM dying
without
explanation, and people not getting patted when going to the internet.

this fixed my problem... (the timeout XLATE, didnt not fix it, but its
there
because i was not cool with the default of 3HRS)

timeout xlate 6:00:00
timeout conn 12:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323
0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00


even if you have the default 0:00 (never timeout) it still does timeout
like
in one minute.. also nats dont work (really patting)




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RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

The last hard copies that I have are also 11.2. However, about a year ago,
my Cisco rep said that I could still get them in hard copy if I really
wanted to. If this is still true, I'm not sure. Couldn't get a hold of him
today with it being Friday and all that. :-) Maybe Monday! 

Shawn K.

 -Original Message-
 From: MADMAN [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:17 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
 
 We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies
 as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I don't even
 know if they print them anymore.
 
   Dave
 
 Brad Ellis wrote:
  
  John,
  
  I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals
 free
  from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).
  
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
  Network Learning Inc
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
  
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
   }
   } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks
 who
   } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains
 CRITICAL
   that
   } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
  found
   } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
   knowing
   } where to find things is very helpful.
  
eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
   12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
   shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
   for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
   need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
   you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
   name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in
 the
   master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).
  
   }-- End of excerpt from Chuck
 -- 
 David Madland
 Sr. Network Engineer
 CCIE# 2016
 Qwest Communications Int. Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 612-664-3367
 
 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Shawn Heisey

Any documentation can be ordered with a smartnet contract.  Take your
contract number and visit http://www.cisco.com/upgrade ... CCO login
required.  It will give you a list of all documentation that can be
ordered.

I even ordered the Internetworking Terms and Acronyms book. :)

Thanks,
Shawn

Jeff Harris wrote:
 
 Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract
 on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little
 getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier
 Partner as well..




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RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Roberts, Larry

I would be curious how you ordered them as well. The last set I have is for
11.3. I just got off the phone with Cisco and they were clueless about what
I was talking about..


Thanks

Larry 

-Original Message-
From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:03 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]


Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract
on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little
getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier
Partner as well..



-- 

Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer
CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote:
 I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a 
 smartnet contract.  It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on 
 your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you 
 can get for free.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/upgrade
 
 Thanks,
 Shawn
 
 MADMAN wrote:
  
  We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard 
  copies as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I 
  don't even know if they print them anymore.
  
Dave
  
  Brad Ellis wrote:
  
   John,
  
   I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS 
   manuals
 free
   from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).




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RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

Let me start out saying that I have not taken the Foundation exam - I took
the routing, switching and remote access one by one.

The Foundation exam is the three exams (routing, switching and remote
access) in one. It has more questions and cost more than one of the other
three.

It's kind of a gamble. If you are not prepared for all three exams when you
take the Foundation, you will get nothing out of it. On the other hand, if
you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in remote access,
Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer wrong on remote
access questions, will be a third the percentage compared to if you took it
by it self.

Anyway(s), to prepare for the Foundation, you need to read the same books,
etc., as you would if you prepared for each of the other three. To see what
I did, visit my RouterChief site.

Hth,

Ole

~
 Ole Drews Jensen
 Systems Network Manager
 CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
 RWR Enterprises, Inc.
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
~
 http://www.RouterChief.com
~
 Need a Job?
 http://www.OleDrews.com/job
~




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From: Christian Fredrickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]


Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what
books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this
exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you all in advance,

Chris




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Re: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Eric Rogers

It's been a long time since I took this exam. It's doable if you have
hands-on experience. If not then read all three books and know your weaks
spots. It's longer than the CCIE R/S written but not harder. If I remember
correctly I used boson to gauge myself.

-Eric

- Original Message -
From: Ole Drews Jensen 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:58 PM
Subject: RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]


 Let me start out saying that I have not taken the Foundation exam - I took
 the routing, switching and remote access one by one.

 The Foundation exam is the three exams (routing, switching and remote
 access) in one. It has more questions and cost more than one of the other
 three.

 It's kind of a gamble. If you are not prepared for all three exams when
you
 take the Foundation, you will get nothing out of it. On the other hand, if
 you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in remote
access,
 Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer wrong on remote
 access questions, will be a third the percentage compared to if you took
it
 by it self.

 Anyway(s), to prepare for the Foundation, you need to read the same books,
 etc., as you would if you prepared for each of the other three. To see
what
 I did, visit my RouterChief site.

 Hth,

 Ole

 ~
  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 ~
  http://www.RouterChief.com
 ~
  Need a Job?
  http://www.OleDrews.com/job
 ~




 -Original Message-
 From: Christian Fredrickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:47 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]


 Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what
 books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on
this
 exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated.

 Thank you all in advance,

 Chris




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RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]

2002-05-31 Thread Peter Walker

I totally disagree with this statement.  In the foundation exam you get 
three scores, one for each of the sections.  You have to pass in all 
sections to pass the foundation exam. So if you are strong in two areas but 
not the third you are likely to fail the whole exam because of this one 
area.

If you are weak in any area then Foundation is not the exam to take.

Peter Walker

--On Friday, May 31, 2002 5:58 PM -0400 Ole Drews Jensen 
 wrote:


 On the other
 hand, if you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in
 remote access, Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer
 wrong on remote access questions, will be a third the percentage compared
 to if you took it by it self.




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Chuck

In answer to your question, I myself have never had time to use the CD in
the Lab, but that's because of the many other dumb mistakes I made that cut
me short.

IMHO, there is adequate time to complete all required tasks in the Lab if:

1) you don't have to spend any time pondering configuration choices

2) you don't do dumb things like misread requirements and place things into
the wrong vlans or subnets

3) you don't do dumb things like misconfigure or misplace access lists so
that you end up filtering or not filtering the wrong things

4) etc etc etc

Many people have stated here and elsewhere that they have had all their
layer two and layer three done before lunch, and have had plenty of time to
work on the real off the wall stuff in the afternoon. Many have said that
they have consulted the CD for particular problems, and that knowing where
on the CD to find things is of great importance. the CD search engine is the
pits. You have to be able to quickly drill through the various menus to get
to where you need to be. some things are in the IOS command and
configuration guides. Some things are found under the various product line
documentation.

No you will not have time to use the CD as a crutch, as a substitute for
internalizing. Yes, given that you know the basics and don't make too many
mistakes, you will have time to look up an occasional thing here or there.

HTH

Chuck


Michael L. Williams  wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 Chuck  wrote in message
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who
  have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL
 that
  you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
found
  on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
 knowing
  where to find things is very helpful.

 Chuck,

 Quick question..  I realize that knowing commands and being quick at
 configuration a requirement in the lab.  A CCIE friend of mine
suggested
 that I learn to find virtually everything instantly on Cisco's
Documentation
 CD.  Having said that, (and I'm asking because your post implied that you
 had taken it before), without breaking NDA (of course), is there really
time
 to look up anything on the CD?  I realize it's impossible to memorize
every
 single thing.. especially commands, but it seems to me that
referencing
 the CD could take even more time even if you know where to look.  Am I
 way off base here?

 Thanks for you input!

 Mike W.




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Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]

2002-05-31 Thread Gene Volpe

Jenny, you are correct, it is 12.1(8)T.  

As for the fix, here goes.  We were receiving an error message later in the
evening that said that the limit of 200 IPX network address had been
exceeded .  There were only 107 IPX networks configured on the router, so we
were a bit perplexed.

Here is the good part:  The router will only accept 200 IPX nets configured,
but the catch is that the router sees each network that IPX RIP is config'd
for as a seperate network.  Being that IPX RIP is config'd by default, we
were already up to 214 IPX networks.  On top of that, IPX EIGRP was config'd
for all the networks as well, bringing the total to 321 nets.

I first removed RIP, but still wasn't able to add the IPX network or
type-20-prop command .  Once I removed RIP AND EIGRP I was able to add the
network .  At that point, I put RIP and EIGRP back into the config and all
is now well.

Thank you very much for your interest and input!



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RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Phil Lorenz

These are rather hard to find- the full set of IOS books weighs around
75 or 80 pounds (paperbacks) and retails for around $1000 USD

The Cisco product #'s for 12.0  12.1 are on this page below.

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/csvpnc/csvpnsg/icp
re.htm

All the best !!!
Phil


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Roberts, Larry
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I would be curious how you ordered them as well. The last set I have is
for
11.3. I just got off the phone with Cisco and they were clueless about
what
I was talking about..


Thanks

Larry 

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Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a
contract
on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the
little
getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a
Premier
Partner as well..



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Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer
CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed

On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote:
 I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a

 smartnet contract.  It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on 
 your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you 
 can get for free.
 
 http://www.cisco.com/upgrade
 
 Thanks,
 Shawn
 
 MADMAN wrote:
  
  We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard 
  copies as they came out.  The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2.  I 
  don't even know if they print them anymore.
  
Dave
  
  Brad Ellis wrote:
  
   John,
  
   I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS 
   manuals
 free
   from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).




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Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Eric Rogers

Just ordered the complete copy of manuals for 12.2 IOS Documentation Set :-)

THANKS for that info...I knew there was a reason for being on groupstudy...

-Eric

- Original Message -
From: Brad Ellis 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]


 John,

 I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals
free
 from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).

 thanks,
 -Brad Ellis
 CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
 Network Learning Inc
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
 message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
  }
  } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks
who
  } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains
CRITICAL
  that
  } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
 found
  } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
  knowing
  } where to find things is very helpful.
 
   eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
  12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
  shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
  for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
  need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
  you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
  name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the
  master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).
 
  }-- End of excerpt from Chuck




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RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]

2002-05-31 Thread Ken Chipps

I ran into the same problem. So I put this together to document what I
found through trail and error and the few books on the subject.

Look it over and tell me what you think.

The link is www.chipps.com/Firewall.ppt

This is a PowerPoint file.

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Team,
Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at
the
same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco...
Thanks,
J




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Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Pierre-Alex Guanel

The IOS documentation has a section on QoS. Check CC0

Regarless of your method of preparation you need to take some test

to check your understanding. Boson was a great help in that matter.

Good luck on your exam.


Pierre-Alex



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RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]

2002-05-31 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Eric,

Could you please run us through the links that you used or what you did to
order these? 

Thanks,
Shawn

 -Original Message-
 From: Eric Rogers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:00 PM
 To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
 
 Just ordered the complete copy of manuals for 12.2 IOS Documentation Set
 :-)
 
 THANKS for that info...I knew there was a reason for being on
 groupstudy...
 
 -Eric
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Brad Ellis 
 To: 
 Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:38 AM
 Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
 
 
  John,
 
  I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals
 free
  from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago).
 
  thanks,
  -Brad Ellis
  CCIE#5796 (RS / Security)
  Network Learning Inc
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware)
 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)  wrote in
  message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   On Oct 20,  7:01pm, Chuck wrote:
   }
   } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks
 who
   } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains
 CRITICAL
   that
   } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as
  found
   } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs,
   knowing
   } where to find things is very helpful.
  
eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed
   12.2 manuals.  The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course,
   shipping is a killer).  I bought a set and they are quite nice to use
   for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I
   need more book shelves).  They are organised just like the doc CD, and
   you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command
   name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in
 the
   master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet).
  
   }-- End of excerpt from Chuck




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Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]

2002-05-31 Thread Dennis Laganiere

Congratulations!!!  Excellent work!!!

--- Dennis


- Original Message -
From: Pierre-Alex Guanel 
To: 
Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:46 AM
Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]


 I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%)

 I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the
exam,
 which I neglected somewhat during preparation.

 I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are
 NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as
Boson
 #1 focuses on the other networking topics.
 If you can, you should purchase both tests.

 For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA
 and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on
 until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I
 repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of
networking
 where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them
thoroughly
 before the test.

 Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all
 those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly
 want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track
several
 times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time
out
 of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me.


 Pierre-Alex




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