Re: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473]
Hi Also make sure if you are using XP, disable the firewall feature in your LAN Connection for your cable modem. I had the same problem with XP, my vpn client connects but i cannot ping or map my servers, after i disable the firewall feature it works fine. i'm using vpn client 3.5.1. fahim Don Claybrook wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Is the cable/dsl modem also doing any sort of firewalling or NAT'ting? If so, open holes for IPSec and/or turn off firewall functionality on the cable/adsl modem and/or create a static translation for the workstation on the inside. - Original Message - From: Paul To: Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 4:07 PM Subject: Cisco VPN client and NAT/PAT [7:45473] Hi I have setup a Pix 515 so that it authenticates and accepts a remote user via dial-up, allowing them full access to the corporate LAN. The only problem that I have is that the remote user cannot connect via cable modem/adsl etc the connection is initialised, the remote security gateway is contacted and the error message is Remote peer is no longer responding ... Has anyone ever come accross any issues similiar to this ??? Any help will be greatly welcomed ... Sometimes ... I can get connected via cable modem/adsl etc ... but cannot browse, ping or get access to any corporate site or applications ??? I can get several people simultaneously dialed-up and vpn'd onto the corporate LAN .. and I am using Cisco VPN Client 3.0.6 .. I have also tried with client 3.5 with the same results ... Kind regards .. Paul .. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45508t=45473 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Hello, all. Can we compile some kind of tips/tricks that people use to get the most accurate searches on the Documentation CD? I'd like to start relying more on it versus CCO since it's the only friend we have in the lab. Well, the proctor, i guess it depends on his mood :-/ Elmer - Original Message - From: Michael L. Williams To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:08 AM Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing where to find things is very helpful. Chuck, Quick question.. I realize that knowing commands and being quick at configuration a requirement in the lab. A CCIE friend of mine suggested that I learn to find virtually everything instantly on Cisco's Documentation CD. Having said that, (and I'm asking because your post implied that you had taken it before), without breaking NDA (of course), is there really time to look up anything on the CD? I realize it's impossible to memorize every single thing.. especially commands, but it seems to me that referencing the CD could take even more time even if you know where to look. Am I way off base here? Thanks for you input! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45509t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cat8510 MSR/CSR + ATM and GigabitEthernet [7:45511]
Hello 1) I need to buy clean ATM Switch with few ATM OC3 interfaces. I selected Cisco Catalyst 8510 family. And now I thinking do CSR support ATM interfaces and can switching ATM cells ? Or I need buy MSR... 2) I have one Cat8510 MSR without ARM module, and I'd like put in it few Gigabit Ethernet modules. And the questions are: - do MSR without ARM can do bridging (putting ATM PVC in Ethernet VLAN's and inversely) - do MSR without ATM cat switch Ethernet frames between Ethernet ports ? -- TMS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45511t=45511 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: MCNS and boson [7:45499]
1 -Original Message- From: Shoaib Waqar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: MCNS and boson [7:45499] Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am gonna purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can anybody help? Shoaib __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45512t=45499 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
Priscilla, I'm fairly certain that you will need to know something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches. We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout Sem II Sem III which utilises this equipment. This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the 'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ? You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within 15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900 is menu driven but you can drop out to command line mode, which I would recommend. Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the software. It may well have been lifted from the source code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to the full command just in case. Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v 802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go into any real detail. There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access Control Lists and Hands on Config experience. Phil. --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45513t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
Pricilla, I was a technical author for a new CCNA book, and they had the Cat 1900 as well. I think it does cover the Cat 1900. -- RFC 1149 Compliant. Phil Barker wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Priscilla, I'm fairly certain that you will need to know something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches. We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout Sem II Sem III which utilises this equipment. This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the 'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ? You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within 15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900 is menu driven but you can drop out to command line mode, which I would recommend. Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the software. It may well have been lifted from the source code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to the full command just in case. Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v 802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go into any real detail. There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access Control Lists and Hands on Config experience. Phil. --- Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro class before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 Certification Guide. I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have some questions, however: Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know IEEE 802.5 does officially support it. I also know that many Token Ring NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for multicast by now. Thanks! Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45514t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
I ended up taking the 607 test twice (test crashed the first time after I completed it and the score report was nothing but uninterpreted PCL code) and neither time did I have any questions which specifically related to the Cat 1900. The router simulator does allow you to use abbreviations. Just not the ones from IOS 11.x :) Something that I thought was interesting was that they even managed to make it slow. Even though I was on a PIII, when it came time to save, it still took a few seconds to build the configuration, just like you'd find on an old 2500. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45515t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]
I bought a Chatsworth Rack for my routers and switches but unfortunately I cannot screw the bolts into my wooden floor. I was thinking about using a piece of wood for the base. My question is does anyone have a setup similar to this at home and if so could they please help out with what kind of wood I would need and what kind of bolts/screws I would need to use? And what kind of drill would do the job? I am kind of stuck here with this rack so any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Khalid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45517t=45517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
No offense, but all this talk about paper certs vs. 'real deserving certs' is in my opinion foolish!!! No matter how people get certified, they are working hard for it. Of course you have to read books in order to get certified. That is what testing in ALL educational facilities is based on. I could just see professors in College saying, Don't read the math book. Just do math and take the tests, or else you will be a paper graduate. It is ridiculous!!! The fact of the matter is, there is a lot to be learned by experience. There is also a lot to be learned by reading and studying. There are things an experienced person will not know that a 'reader' will know. There are things that a 'reader' will not know that an experienced person will know. All in all, the certification is just another asset a person has to make him or herself more marketable! Even experience isn't a guarantee of knowledge. You can have tons of experience on OSPF and not know a thing about EIGRP or BGP Anyway, take it easy and good luck. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:41 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] Yeah I do think it will be paper because with the Boson, Lammle, and other vendor books along with Cisco Press suddenly every one will just get it and it will be harder to distinguish who really knows it or not. I know people will get it yes but I don't want it to be a paper cert like some people have CCNP/DPs and don't know anything about OSPF or VLANS. Just gets me sad. Part of the reason I got this cert last year was because there weren't any boson or study aides yet. It was a better test that way. Of course I was already doing security so that is besides the point. Finally I thought I could have a more unique Cisco cert without killing myself ie CCIE. I'm not the only one with it. Here in Japan, my boss was first and my current co-worker was second. Perhaps I was number 10 or something. (I was the 5th CISSP here). The problem is that one of these guys doesn't know how to do things like ACLs! I got to help him out with it and he can't configure Cisco IDS. Just makes me sad. At least I get paid more... :-) What can I say? I don't like it when people can just read a book and pass the test and they don't know conf t. You defination of a paper cert is the same as mine. No offensive taken. I just think that if you want to do CSS1 you should be using PIXs, VPNs, and IDSs just like when I got the CCNP I was on 7200/3600/2600 6509/5xxx/2948s daily. Theo Michael L. Williams Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/2002 02:03 PM Please respond to Michael L. Williams To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] I think that's a pretty pessimistic outlook for cert... wow... if a book coming out convinces you all of a sudden your cert will be paper, . wow... I can't explain it, but that comment really bums me out... I can't believe all of this talk about paper this and paper that.. geez, a book comes out for a cert and already someone (that has the damn cert) is already calling it paper... I guess I've always been under the impression that the PERSON that was shoddily certified (studied to pass a test instead of learning the material) was a paper whatever i.e. someone that passed the CCNA just by sheer memorization after barrelling thru practice exams was a paper CCNA as opposed to someone who actually learned all of the information. Seriously, it sounds to me like your concern isn't paper anything, it's that you won't be the only one with CSS1/CCIP or whatever... I have to ask Did you really think that you'd be the 'only' one with that certification forever? I guess the reason your comment bums me out is because you're implying that just because there are study materials for a book (especially one from Sybex with the Lammle name on it) that it will be so common that you can get a CSS! with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Do you really think that one book will have that much of an impact? I appreciate you feelings, and I didn't intend for this post to be an attack on you I guess I'm just stunned that your outlook for the value of a cert could be affected by just one book so much. Mike W. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled
RE: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]
3/4 in plywood makes a pretty good base.. If you use *carriage* bolts, there will not be anything sticking down from the bottom. The smooth head is underneath and the nuts would be on top. I would consider using that and then running a mount to the ceiling to help keep things from rocking back and forth too much. Another thought is to find something thats not too ugly but heavy to put on the outside edge of the plywood. I'm sure others will have some suggestions on this excerise :) MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45519t=45517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]
Dear Group I'm getting following error message on to my catalyst 2924 switch console. Can anybody explain what does this mean ?? *Mar 2 17:58:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 relearning 7 addrs per min *Mar 2 17:59:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 16 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:00:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 21 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:01:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 9 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:02:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 18 addrs per min regds Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45520t=45520 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]
On Oct 20, 5:38pm, Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote: } } Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. } Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not } planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab } probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has } Catalyst 1900 configuration questions?? Other's have mentioned the importance of this and I would just like to echo them. I see too many people that think they know ethernet when in fact they don't know much at all. An introduction to things like STP, VTP, VLANs, etc. is very important. } Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation } questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run } start instead of copy running-config startup-config)? Just to nitpick, this is still an abbrevation. The full command is copy system:running-config nvram:startup-config. } Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know This is CCNA. It still uses class based addressing... }-- End of excerpt from Priscilla Oppenheimer Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45521t=45489 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]
The following information was found by a quick search on Google for '%RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP'. Here's the URL with this information as well as other RTD errors: (watch for wrap) http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat2950/2950_wc/scg/scg_syse.htm --- RTD Messages This section contains the Runtime Diagnostic (RTD) error messages. RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP [chars] relearning [dec] addrs per min Explanation Normally, MAC addresses are learned once on a port. Occasionally, when a switched network reconfigures, due to either manual or STP reconfiguration, addresses learned on one port are relearned on a different port. However, if there is a port anywhere in the switched domain that is looped back to itself, addresses will jump back and forth between the real port and the port that is in the path to the looped back port. In this message, [chars] is the interface, and [dec] is the number of addresses being learnt. Action Determine the real path (port) to the MAC address. Use debug ethernet-controller addr to see the alternate path-port on which the address is being learned. Go to the switch attached to that port. Note that show cdp neighbors is useful in determining the next switch. Repeat this procedure until the port is found that is receiving what it is transmitting, and remove that port from the network. --- HTH, Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45522t=45520 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: failover only licence on PIX [7:45475]
Hi Richard, The FO is just a license and can be upgraded. The hardware is all the same. So is the software for that matter. Its the activation key that lets you use the software and hardware the way you want or can afford. Michael --- nettable_walker wrote: 5/30/2002 6:35pm Thursday Professionals, I have seen some deals on ebay for PIX 515's with FO license. I also do a lot of work on 2 sets of 525's Is the FO license upgradeable to a regular license ? Is the FO something in the chip set has anyone tried to modify it ? Thanks, Richard // [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45510t=45475 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261]
Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On your point one I agree with you. Especially in a market like we have today companies with positions where they need someone at a jncie level they may not need to look too far to fill their positions. On your second point where would you get a list of the jncie's with names and addresses? Juniper for sure is not going to give them out. Most of them work for Juniper and they are not going to make it any easier then it is to steal them. Juniper is probably like cisco was in the early days. The best way to get a good engineer is to steal them from Juniper. I already answered this privately to you. I'll spare the newsgroups the details, but the short answer is contacts and back-channels. For example, clearly Juniper the company will not give out such information in a formal request. But let's just say that if you know the right people, you should be able to get this information in an unofficial capacity without much problem. And anyway, if your job is recruiting, it's your job to make sure you know the right people. As far a knowing someone that has always been a factor. Peter if you are reading this, when Juniper gets ready to open up a Latin America office I'm your man :) From: nrf Reply-To: nrf To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: How do I approach the company about my CCIE [7:40261] Date: Thu, 30 May 2002 16:35:39 -0400 My point is simply that it is extremely difficult to extrapolate overall value from demand alone. I see this mistake being made time and time again, and not just with Juniper/Cisco, but also with Windows vs. UNIX, or things like that. Besides, I would also add 2 points to the equation: #1) The problem with looking just a job boards to gauge demand. The simple fact is, most jobs are not publicly advertised. Surely you've seen the studies from CNN that have shown that 90% of all available jobs are never publicly posted, and are obtained just by knowing the right people and employee referrals.Companies seem to prefer things this way because it is a better quality-check than soliciting a mass of resumes (i.e., an employee is unlikely to refer somebody that he knows to be bad because if that guy is hired and flames out, that employee would be professionally embarrassed). How this impacts something like Juniper (or UNIX or whatever) is that it seems that the high-end jobs are more likely to not be publicly posted because it seems that the more high-end and important the job (and on average, a Juniper job tends to be higher-end than the average Cisco job), the more quality-checks you need. I believe this is why you hardly ever see public postings for positions like CEO, even though I know that many companies are looking for one. #2) The warping of small numbers. This is somewhat related to point #1. What this is all about is that when the numbers of available candidates are small, it is often inefficient to publicly post a job for them, rather a company who wants one should just individually contact each available candidate, depending on how many there really are. For example, let's say your local NFL team loses its quarterback in mid-season to a season-ending injury and decides they need a replacement to make a playoff run. Are they going to advertise it on Monster? No, of course not. The head coach knows full well that there are only a handful of available guys in the world who could reasonably step in and lead their team, and the coach probably already knows them by name and how to contact them. There's no need to publicly advertise a job when you already know who the prospective candidates are. This might apply to the JNCIE. I don't know if it does, but it might. Consider this. There are only 65 of them. Within a day or two of investigating, I could probably find out all their names and contact info, because there really aren't that many of them. So would I really need to publicly advertise my job? Maybe, maybe not. I think only when the numbers get large do the benefits of publicly posting become apparent. Wes Stevens wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... nrf, you and Peter both make good points on what is advertized on the job sites may not tell the whole Juniper job story. The supply may well be low enough that there are jobs to be found. Still I would think that there would be some jobs advertized. Even a search on Dice for just Juniper did not turn up much. A few jobs for a C++ person with Juniper skills and a few low level type jobs was all. It really does not matter for most of us as there is no way to get that cert unless you work on Juniper equipment at work. Building your own Juniper lab at home is not realistic. By the way Juniper is looking like they will come in with sales in the $540m range down almost 40% from last year and
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45166] -Reply [7:45516]
Just starting. Tom Scott 05/29/02 09:10pm Neal Rauhauser 402-301-9555 wrote: I'm back to reading groupstudy after an eighteen month abscence. My CCNP/CCDP certs which I finished 12/2000 and 1/2001 are working wonders career wise, but I am doing a lot of carrier type stuff now and I've lined up projects that pretty much cover the BSCI, MCAST+QoS, and MPLS tests for CCIP - no reason not to get it done if I am going to do the reading anyway. I am curious to know the stats - how many people have completed this cert? I'm sorry to see there are no responses in this thread. Maybe that's a sign we should give up on CCIP study groups for now and wait till there's more interest in it after, say, 2005 or even 2010. :-( -- TT Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45516t=45516 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45523t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]
Unless you live in an area prone to earthquakes I see no need to fasten the rack to the floor. Obviously, put any heavy gear near the bottom. A rack-mount UPS would be ideal. Even something like a 7000 router is balanced for telco rack mount. I have used Chatsworths with roller wheels in wiring closets. We would pull them out from the wall to get behind them. HTH -Original Message- From: Khalid Nayyar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 8:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517] I bought a Chatsworth Rack for my routers and switches but unfortunately I cannot screw the bolts into my wooden floor. I was thinking about using a piece of wood for the base. My question is does anyone have a setup similar to this at home and if so could they please help out with what kind of wood I would need and what kind of bolts/screws I would need to use? And what kind of drill would do the job? I am kind of stuck here with this rack so any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated. Khalid Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45525t=45517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP Helpers for Multiple purposes? [7:45528]
Silly question. I know you can have multiple IP Helper addresses configured on an interface. But doesn't the router attempt each server in the order they're entered for all broadcasts that it's configured to forward? My question is, let's say I have a DHCP server in one TCP/IP subnet and I have something else in another subnet (let's say a custom application) that needs to receive broadcasts for some reason (this is a totally hypothetical situation). Is it possible to tell the router to forward all broadcasts on port 67 to a specific IP/subnet and also forward all broadcasts on (say) port 2000 to a different IP/subnet? Just curious I could see where this would be handy.. Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45528t=45528 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
If you think a Lammle book is so great that it will make it easy to anyone to get the cert that you worked so hard for, then you are giving Todd Lammle more credit than he deserves. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45529t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Problem on catalyst 2924 [7:45520]
http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/c2900xl/29_35wc/sc/swgerror.htm#xtocid644512 Dave Hitesh Pathak R wrote: Dear Group I'm getting following error message on to my catalyst 2924 switch console. Can anybody explain what does this mean ?? *Mar 2 17:58:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/6 relearning 7 addrs per min *Mar 2 17:59:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 16 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:00:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 21 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:01:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 9 addrs per min *Mar 2 18:02:49: %RTD-1-ADDR_FLAP: FastEthernet0/2 relearning 18 addrs per min regds -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45530t=45520 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIP - who is doing this one? [7:45443]
Hi, Check our website, http://www.braincert.com/ We have a CCIP forums and tons of information to get you started. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45531t=45443 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Materials on Internet. [7:45426]
Hi, Check our website, http://www.braincert.com BrainCert Offers FREE online practice exams, Study guides, Router labs, Forums and resources for Cisco CCIE,CCNP,CCNA,CCDP,CCDA and CCIP certifications. Thanks Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45532t=45426 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. Have you tried a job in researching atmospheres and temperatures on Mars?!? I hear not too many people are studying that!!! The fact is, people will flock to where the opportunities are! Why would you want a certification that nobody else wants? A certification that nobody wants is obviously not in very high demand in the work place... You go ahead and get your 'CSRTDFGAE' certification that nobody else knows about... Then have fun looking for a job that requires it ;-) I will stick to Cisco, Microsoft, security, etc etc etc. Good Luck, -Original Message- From: Thomas Larus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] If you think a Lammle book is so great that it will make it easy to anyone to get the cert that you worked so hard for, then you are giving Todd Lammle more credit than he deserves. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45533t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: MCNS and boson [7:45499]
thanks for the info, but what is 'Kaeo' which u mentioned? Shoaib --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You really don't need the Boson for the MCNS. Just get the book and get Kaeo and read them until you can't read any more and then just pass the test. Oh yeah, get a PIX and configure it! Oh about a VPN concentrator 3060? Radius and TACACS+ interest you? Oh I'm having a bad day today B. :-( Sad Theo Shoaib Waqar Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/31/2002 01:50 PM Please respond to Shoaib Waqar To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:MCNS and boson [7:45499] Can anybody tell me which boson exam is the best out of 3 test exams available regarding MCNS??? I am gonna purchase any one of the 3 and i m confused, can anybody help? Shoaib __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45534t=45499 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45535t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Passed BCRAN [7:45182]
Thanks to everyone for your input, I heard it wasn't that bad compared to the other 3. If you know the material from those it shouldn't be that bad. Plus I have some SNA experience from way back in 89' - wow dating myself. I hope to read/study/do home labs and pass by mid July. Thanks again to all for input. Remember, wherever you go - there you are. John Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45536t=45182 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe you could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for that. My point? You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you won't appear as much of a GURU. Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could remain King of the Hill even if its in your own mind. Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45537t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tacacs on routers and switches [7:45538]
Morning, I am trying to deny access to our Router on the network, but allow access on the switches only. I am Tacacs, is there a way of grouping switches different from routers and assigning defferent security setting to them Cheers Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45538t=45538 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
Yes well said thomas. If I had just relied on his ccna book 2 years ago, I would have failed 640-507 (CCNA). I found so many errors and things out of order (as a baby engineer). I ended up just reading the miserable, poorly written odom book from cisco press. I threw that piece of junk away, when I got to the part on ting and ted. If people are so stupid, he has to make up bad stories to help people remember the difference between routing and routed protocol, they should not be doing this ! Certs don't mean much in companies (I make a grip with just a ccna). So if you had your CSS1 and CCIP and I asked you a question, since your so knowledgeable and you got it wrong, or beat around the bush- interview ends and your resume goes in the garbage. With CSS1/CCIP written on top. If your so insecure that you care what todd lammle is doing (who by now should have one or more ccie's if he was really any good), your a pretty scary guy. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45539t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Security CCIE lab preparation [7:45524]
What is a good lab preparation course for the Security CCIE? i am aware about the ACP4 by Global knowledge and Security prepartion from ccbootcamp. Anyone has taken them and what do you think about this? And any other lab bootcamp besides these two? _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45524t=45524 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Chatsworth Router Rack Home Installation [7:45517]
Good comments Mike! Khalid, another you might want to do is to mount your Cat5K (assuming you have one) at the bottom of the rack, with the rack kit placed on the cat5k as far forward as possible. This will make your cat5k extend pretty far back. Push the rack all the way back against a wall, with the back end of the cat5k resting against the wall. This will help stabilize your rack quite a bit. One other thing, when you put 2500s in your rack, make sure to leave some space between them as their fans are located at the bottom (this is one lesson I learned the hard way). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) Mike Sweeney wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... 3/4 in plywood makes a pretty good base.. If you use *carriage* bolts, there will not be anything sticking down from the bottom. The smooth head is underneath and the nuts would be on top. I would consider using that and then running a mount to the ceiling to help keep things from rocking back and forth too much. Another thought is to find something thats not too ugly but heavy to put on the outside edge of the plywood. I'm sure others will have some suggestions on this excerise :) MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45526t=45517 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45527t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D. :-) Let's get a good four week thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-) I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-) -Original Message- From: sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe you could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for that. My point? You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you won't appear as much of a GURU. Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could remain King of the Hill even if its in your own mind. Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45540t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials that cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you! Congrats! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535] I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45541t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
What matterials do you mean by 29.95$? Hamid Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials that cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you! Congrats! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535] I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45542t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PIX 501 [7:45544]
Team, Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at the same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco... Thanks, J Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45544t=45544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
What do you call a person that graduates at the bottom of his/her medical school class? - doctor. Kaminski, Shawn G 05/31 1:47 PM But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D. :-) Let's get a good four week thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-) I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-) -Original Message- From: sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe you could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for that. My point? You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you won't appear as much of a GURU. Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could remain King of the Hill even if its in your own mind. Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45545t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another IP Helper question [7:45546]
If you configure a router interface with multiple IP helpers that point to specific IP addresses, does the router forward the broadcast to all of the IP Helper addresses at one time? Or does it go through them sequentially somehow? I've searched Cisco and the web and can't seem to get a definite answer. TIA, Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45546t=45546 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
I am going for the CSS1, I probably could pass it in a short about of time. Instead, I am getting hands on experience with security, and getting all the theory as well. Not just for the CSS1, but for real world security stuff. Security is a journey, not a final destination. I think you need emphasize more on the real world hands on networking. And not how many people passed a test. A CSS1 is not going to be a magic pill, you have to understand how PIX, IDS and serity stuff works in a real world environment, with hands on. You also have to prove this when you get that security job. I think you got your CSS1 for all the wrong reasons. Because a book came out, that bummed you out? You should work that much harder on your security skills, instead of comparing yourself to everyone else. Those of us with true networking skills do not worry about what entry-level people are studying. And some of us even help out the newer people, kind of how other people in this newsgroup/internet probably did for you while you were going for your CSS1. How about specializing in some other newsgroup. Thank you -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:50 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45547t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
sam sneed wrote: If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Work hard is about the only credit I am willing to give someone with a Ph.D without further knowing them. I would *never* say that a PhD proves ones intellegence. When I first started college, I used to think people with PhDs were always smart people (they must be to have a PhD, right?) Wrong. Working and living in a college town (a relatively small city with 2 colleges and a University), I found there are probably less than 25% of people with PhDs that I would consider smart. The rest just worked hard, put up with a lot of political and administrative bull@#t and learned how to become a 'zombie of academia'. Most PhDs I know (which is a ton, I'd bet way more than the avereage person knows) can't even balance a checkbook or make logical decisions in everyday life... geez. Sorry I'm not going after you Sam Just had to get that off my chest =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45550t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45548t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
Hi Alex, Congratulations. I am also planning to take the CCIE written next month.I don't have any material from Boson or from anybody else. Could you please tell me which book to follow for the QoS / performance, and how much of this stuff is asked in the exam. Also is the will Boson Material help a lot? Thanks, Neil Pierre-Alex Guanel wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45543t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
Point taken, I got my BS as a computer science major at Rutgers. The major was hard and the midterm and final exams were alot harder than the certifciation exams I've taken. I've spoken with people who recieved their Masters from there and their curriclulum was even more demanding. I can't imagine how difficult the Ph. D courses would be here or an academically superior university( and I'm sure there's plenty better universities). I can guarantee you that they would have to know their s$%t. As low level as my courses were we had to know the TCP/IP very well. Some of our projects were writing client server programs which required us to come up with our own protocols. Ex. a chat server using UDP that would require us to write protocol to handle the sequencing and retranmissions to ensure reliablity over UDP. These assignments really taught more about TCP/IP than the CCNA CCNP books required. IMHO there should be an exam solely on TCP/IP to get your CCNP. Perhaps using Richard Stevens TCP/IP illustrated as the textbook. My point was that if our friend with the CSS1 is looking to accomplish something that noone else will easily achieve shoot for the Ph. D. I should have been more clear. A Ph D in a bul**t major from a bul**t college won;t get any respect from me either. But I will give a person with a Ph D. in Computer Science or any engineering from a decent university alot more respect than the average CCNP,CSS1 or whatever. Michael Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... sam sneed wrote: If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Work hard is about the only credit I am willing to give someone with a Ph.D without further knowing them. I would *never* say that a PhD proves ones intellegence. When I first started college, I used to think people with PhDs were always smart people (they must be to have a PhD, right?) Wrong. Working and living in a college town (a relatively small city with 2 colleges and a University), I found there are probably less than 25% of people with PhDs that I would consider smart. The rest just worked hard, put up with a lot of political and administrative bull@#t and learned how to become a 'zombie of academia'. Most PhDs I know (which is a ton, I'd bet way more than the avereage person knows) can't even balance a checkbook or make logical decisions in everyday life... geez. Sorry I'm not going after you Sam Just had to get that off my chest =) Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45551t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Another IP Helper question [7:45546]
Any IP helpers that you configure will be broadcast to all the addresses in your configs. - Original Message - From: Michael Williams To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:32 PM Subject: Another IP Helper question [7:45546] If you configure a router interface with multiple IP helpers that point to specific IP addresses, does the router forward the broadcast to all of the IP Helper addresses at one time? Or does it go through them sequentially somehow? I've searched Cisco and the web and can't seem to get a definite answer. TIA, Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45553t=45546 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]
JB, Honestly, I would look to ebay for any PIX 6.x manuals that someone is selling. I believe it is cheaper than ordering the full set of docs from Cisco (this of course is with the assumption that you would like to have hardcopy to go by). If you don't care what your source is... go to Cisco's website, drill down under documentation for the PIX, and start downloading all the PDFs you care to have on the subject. This will be your best bet for learning to configure from the command line your new toy. For learning security practices, you will need to look to other documentation, as this is more of a conceptual topic, and is covered very lightly in the Cisco Pix Docs... HTHs, Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of jb Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 501 [7:45544] Team, Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at the same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco... Thanks, J Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45552t=45544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Token Ring and multicasts [7:45554]
At 11:21 AM 5/31/02, FRANKD wrote: Hi Priscilla, What I did find was that in multi-cast token ring, it uses functional addressing. Search Cisco for token ring functional addressing. Try this one in particular: http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/software/ios113ed/113ed_cr/np1_c/1cmulti.htm#xtocid2250942 Good Luck, Frank Thanks for the answer Frank. Please send answers to the group, not to my individual address. (I only do multicasting! ;-) That document has to do with IP multicast. I wasn't asking about IP multicast, but the fact that IP multicast uses a functional address on Token Ring is a good hint. Rumor has it that you need to know that for some Cisco tests. ;-) Here's the issue: IEEE says that the first bit transmitted in a data-link-layer header is the Individual/Group (I/G) bit. 1 = group. 0 = individual. Group also means multicast. If all bits in the destination address are 1s, then it's a broadcast, a special case of multicast or group. In canonical Little Endian format (Ethernet), the first bit transmitted is the least significant, low-order, right-most bit. For example, CDP sends to the multicast address 01-00-0C-CC-CC-CC. Notice that the least significant bit in the first byte (01) is a 1. In non-canonical Bit Endian format (Token Ring), the first bit transmitted is the most significant, high-order, left-most bit. I'm glad to see that Wendell Odom removed the discussion of Little Endian versus Big Endian from the latest version of the CCNA book, because the previous edition had it gunked up. Now, back to the real question. I know that IEEE says that 802.5 Token Ring supports multicast, i.e. the setting of the I/G bit. In fact, the IBM TR Reference Manual supports it too. However, Token Ring NIC vendors didn't support it in the past. This caused problems for IP Multicast, DECnet, AppleTalk, and many other upper layers that use multicasting. Some Cisco classes and books teach multicast as if it's only an IP thing. That's wrong. On Token Ring, a lot of upper layers had to rely instead on Token Ring functional addresses. Token Ring says that if the first bit transmitted of the third byte is a zero, then it's a functional address. Functional addresses are used for sending to the Active Monitor, to all bridges, to LAN Manager, etc. All Token Ring NICs can handle these addresses properly, and Token Ring drivers allow software to tell the NIC which functional addresses to listen to. Because the NICs and drivers didn't support multicast, upper layers made use of these functional addresses instead. I remember that the AppleTalk developers had to go to all sorts of shenanigans to get their multicasts for zones to work right, using functional instead of multicast addresses. It appears from RFC 1469, that for IP multicast it was decided that the functional address C0-00-00-04-00-00 would be used. That's in Big Endian (non-canonical) format. Notice that it's Group/Locally administered and functional. It is not guaranteed to be uniquely used for IP multicast. Other upper layers could use it too. Anyway, that's the history. I was wondering if the problem was ever fixed. Did Token Ring NIC vendors start supporting real multicast ever, or do upper layer developers still need to use a functional address? I think that the problem was never fixed (or at least that developers don't assume that it was fixed.) The link that Frank sent, although written years ago, seems to be up-to-date and implies that IP multicast on Token Ring uses a functional address. I also found an RFC 2470 that specifies IPv6 on Token Ring. It uses functional addressees too. On the other hand, some applications may send to a multicast address that isn't also a functional address, but I haven't found any. I think to play it safe, developers assume that the Token Ring NICs understand functional addresses, but not necessarily multicast. BTW, Radia Perlman's new edition still says this too. She didn't update that discussion, probably because it's still an issue on Broken Ring. Priscilla Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45554t=45554 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: PIX 501 [7:45544]
I heard this book was ok from other group memebrs. Haven;t read it myslef yet: Managing Cisco Network Security by Mike Wenstrom jb wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Team, Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at the same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco... Thanks, J Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=4t=45544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OOB Testing [7:45556]
Group, I would like help with writting a script that dials out to all my out-of-band 56k modems connected to my terminal servers and verify connectivity. If connectivity is not working it would send out an email to the Engineer telling the name of the device not working. Any help would be appriciated. Thanks, MG Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45556t=45556 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45549t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]
I will offer up three suggestions Cisco Secure PIX firewalls / Cisco Press Cisco Security / Global Knowledge This is my second choice. I liked the layout and the information was presented pretty well. Cisco Scure Internet Security Solutions / Cisco Press This one I found the most useful with configs and line by line explanations to what was being done in the config I have not yet played with any of the Labs available. soon though :) MikeS Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45557t=45544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Friday Funnies [7:45559]
Forward to me by a coworker, from the Shark Tank at ComputerWorld: --- Shark Tank: And it's the prettiest little hub you ever saw Business is booming for this manufacturer, so the production management group decides to expand into some long-unused office space adjoining the shop. Of course, I was not made aware of this plan beforehand, grumbles a systems manager pilot fish. So when he gets a call complaining that a PC on the shop floor is down, fish checks it out and determines the trouble is in the network. I backtracked to the unused office space where the nearest network hub was located, and found it sitting on the file cabinet it had always sat on. But the hub and file cabinet are now on the other side of the room -- and the network wires are dangling uselessly from the wall. Fish doesn't know who's responsible for doing this, so he curses under his breath while he mounts the hub to the wall and hooks it up again. Things were fine for a couple of days, then I got another call from the guy on the shop floor, says fish. Same symptoms. He runs back to the unused office and discovers that the walls have been freshly spray-painted. Oddly, while the hub was no longer where I mounted it, there was a hub-shaped patch of unpainted wall there, fish says. I located the freshly painted hub, scraped and scrubbed it until I could make out the status lights, cursed under my breath again and remounted the thing to the wall. Fish still can't find the maintenance worker who won't keep his hands off the hub. But I alerted his supervisor that he needs to stop disconnecting my equipment, says fish. Less than 48 hours later, fish's phone rings again: same PC, same problem. A quick hike to the empty office confirms that the hub is gone once more. The well-intentioned but incredibly thick-headed maintenance guy had taken it out to the paint shop to clean it up with steel wool and solvents, fish says. He rescues the hub yet again, swears a blue streak at the maintenance guy and mounts the hub on the wall one more time. The maintenance worker doesn't last another week, fish says. But the hub is still mounted to the wall -- half-painted and virtually free of legible labels, but working reliably nonetheless. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45559t=45559 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
I am trying to find out the same thing so any assistance would be appreicated. Thanks. Christian Fredrickson 05/31/02 02:47PM Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45558t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a smartnet contract. It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can get for free. http://www.cisco.com/upgrade Thanks, Shawn MADMAN wrote: We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45560t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
VPN Client (CVPN-CLNT-35-K9) [7:45561]
Does anyone know any retailer carrying cisco's vpn client (CVPN-CLNT-35-K9) in stock? Key word is, in stock... quickest I see it available is 2+ weeks. Thanx, mikej ~~~ Michael Jablonski ABN AMRO Asset Management Holdings, Inc. 161 North Clark St. 9th Flr Chicago, IL 60601-2468 PH: 312.884.2996 FAX: 312.278.5550 ~~~ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45561t=45561 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498]
How true! -Original Message- From: Richard Tufaro [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: RE: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] What do you call a person that graduates at the bottom of his/her medical school class? - doctor. Kaminski, Shawn G 05/31 1:47 PM But then he'll only be a paper Ph. D. :-) Let's get a good four week thread going on this everyone, whadda ya say?! :-) I couldn't resist throwing a little humor in on this one! :-) -Original Message- From: sam sneed [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: Booo! CSS1 [7:45498] If you want to go for a challenging Cert that proves your intelligence go get a Ph. D. At least we all know you have to work hard for those. Maybe you could get one for computer science and you could design the code for the next generation of routers. I don't think your CSS1 would qualify you for that. My point? You passed a test that was not too demanding and now you're disappointed when other people pass it. You don't feel as special anymore. Maybe you won't appear as much of a GURU. Well if you don't like it set your goals higher and the possibilities of other s achieving or surpassing them will be lower and then you could remain King of the Hill even if its in your own mind. Excuse my tone but your post just hit me as arrogant. wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Man this bums me out. Lammle has a CSS1/CCIP book coming out. Soon everyone will be trying to get this cert and it will become a paper cert. All of my hard work will look like nothing. :-( Man, I need to specialize in something that people just don't want to study. For a few moments in time I had it here in Japan but once this book comes out, even more clones will appear. Soon I can get a CSS1 with my soba and Sushi down at the 7/11. Booo! Theo hmmm forensics.and I already have training scheduled and materials herehum Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45562t=45498 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
Well, if the moderators let this through, I'll probably get flamed to death because I'm always pushing CCxx Productions. Why? Because I wrote most of the materials. However, I can guarantee that they cover the exact same topics as Boson at a much better price. The difference is that you get the materials in Microsoft Word format instead of a test engine. But the advantage of that is that you can transport the materials anywhere you want. With Boson, you can only put the materials on one PC. Flame away Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Hamid [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535] What matterials do you mean by 29.95$? Hamid Kaminski, Shawn G wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You spent $80.00 on Boson tests when you could have gotten materials that cover the exact same topics for $29.95? Shame on you! Congrats! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: Pierre-Alex Guanel [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535] I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45563t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier Partner as well.. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote: I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a smartnet contract. It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can get for free. http://www.cisco.com/upgrade Thanks, Shawn MADMAN wrote: We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45564t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
Unless you've got a lot of Cisco experience, I still think that taking the individual exams is the way to go because of the amount of material you need to know. However, for the Foundations, the questions are pulled from the BSCN, BCMSN, and BCRAN question pools. So, you need to study the same books that you would use if you took the exams individually. Probably the Cisco Press books Building Scalable Cisco Networks, Cisco LAN Switching (or Building Cisco Multilayer Switched Networks), and Building Cisco Remote Access Networks would be a good place to start. And, of course, CCxx Productions study materials. :-) Shawn K. Disclaimer: I have written materials for CCxx Productions -Original Message- From: Christian Fredrickson [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548] Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45565t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
FW: Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465]
Im going to try it thanks!!! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 5:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: Question on Pix and lossing internet conectivity [7:45465] i had the same problem; it has nothing to do with 5 c classes of ip or in my case 1 IP on the outside for X number of internal users. Either something is wrong with the pix 6.2 Code, or it has very aggressive timeouts. Some of the problems you will see are short time outs on downloads, AIM dying without explanation, and people not getting patted when going to the internet. this fixed my problem... (the timeout XLATE, didnt not fix it, but its there because i was not cool with the default of 3HRS) timeout xlate 6:00:00 timeout conn 12:00:00 half-closed 0:10:00 udp 0:02:00 rpc 0:10:00 h323 0:05:00 sip 0:30:00 sip_media 0:02:00 even if you have the default 0:00 (never timeout) it still does timeout like in one minute.. also nats dont work (really patting) Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45567t=45465 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
The last hard copies that I have are also 11.2. However, about a year ago, my Cisco rep said that I could still get them in hard copy if I really wanted to. If this is still true, I'm not sure. Couldn't get a hold of him today with it being Friday and all that. :-) Maybe Monday! Shawn K. -Original Message- From: MADMAN [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck -- David Madland Sr. Network Engineer CCIE# 2016 Qwest Communications Int. Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 612-664-3367 Emotion should reflect reason not guide it Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45566t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Any documentation can be ordered with a smartnet contract. Take your contract number and visit http://www.cisco.com/upgrade ... CCO login required. It will give you a list of all documentation that can be ordered. I even ordered the Internetworking Terms and Acronyms book. :) Thanks, Shawn Jeff Harris wrote: Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier Partner as well.. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45568t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
I would be curious how you ordered them as well. The last set I have is for 11.3. I just got off the phone with Cisco and they were clueless about what I was talking about.. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier Partner as well.. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote: I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a smartnet contract. It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can get for free. http://www.cisco.com/upgrade Thanks, Shawn MADMAN wrote: We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45569t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
Let me start out saying that I have not taken the Foundation exam - I took the routing, switching and remote access one by one. The Foundation exam is the three exams (routing, switching and remote access) in one. It has more questions and cost more than one of the other three. It's kind of a gamble. If you are not prepared for all three exams when you take the Foundation, you will get nothing out of it. On the other hand, if you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in remote access, Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer wrong on remote access questions, will be a third the percentage compared to if you took it by it self. Anyway(s), to prepare for the Foundation, you need to read the same books, etc., as you would if you prepared for each of the other three. To see what I did, visit my RouterChief site. Hth, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~ Need a Job? http://www.OleDrews.com/job ~ -Original Message- From: Christian Fredrickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548] Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45570t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
It's been a long time since I took this exam. It's doable if you have hands-on experience. If not then read all three books and know your weaks spots. It's longer than the CCIE R/S written but not harder. If I remember correctly I used boson to gauge myself. -Eric - Original Message - From: Ole Drews Jensen To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 2:58 PM Subject: RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548] Let me start out saying that I have not taken the Foundation exam - I took the routing, switching and remote access one by one. The Foundation exam is the three exams (routing, switching and remote access) in one. It has more questions and cost more than one of the other three. It's kind of a gamble. If you are not prepared for all three exams when you take the Foundation, you will get nothing out of it. On the other hand, if you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in remote access, Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer wrong on remote access questions, will be a third the percentage compared to if you took it by it self. Anyway(s), to prepare for the Foundation, you need to read the same books, etc., as you would if you prepared for each of the other three. To see what I did, visit my RouterChief site. Hth, Ole ~ Ole Drews Jensen Systems Network Manager CCNP, MCSE, MCP+I RWR Enterprises, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ http://www.RouterChief.com ~ Need a Job? http://www.OleDrews.com/job ~ -Original Message- From: Christian Fredrickson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 12:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548] Has anyone on the list taken the Foundations 640-509 exam and if so, what books did you use to study for the exam? Any suggestions or comments on this exam and studying for this exam would be greatly appreciated. Thank you all in advance, Chris Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45571t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Foundations 640-509 [7:45548]
I totally disagree with this statement. In the foundation exam you get three scores, one for each of the sections. You have to pass in all sections to pass the foundation exam. So if you are strong in two areas but not the third you are likely to fail the whole exam because of this one area. If you are weak in any area then Foundation is not the exam to take. Peter Walker --On Friday, May 31, 2002 5:58 PM -0400 Ole Drews Jensen wrote: On the other hand, if you are perfect in routing and switching, but not so good in remote access, Foundation might be better, as the percentage you answer wrong on remote access questions, will be a third the percentage compared to if you took it by it self. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45572t=45548 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
In answer to your question, I myself have never had time to use the CD in the Lab, but that's because of the many other dumb mistakes I made that cut me short. IMHO, there is adequate time to complete all required tasks in the Lab if: 1) you don't have to spend any time pondering configuration choices 2) you don't do dumb things like misread requirements and place things into the wrong vlans or subnets 3) you don't do dumb things like misconfigure or misplace access lists so that you end up filtering or not filtering the wrong things 4) etc etc etc Many people have stated here and elsewhere that they have had all their layer two and layer three done before lunch, and have had plenty of time to work on the real off the wall stuff in the afternoon. Many have said that they have consulted the CD for particular problems, and that knowing where on the CD to find things is of great importance. the CD search engine is the pits. You have to be able to quickly drill through the various menus to get to where you need to be. some things are in the IOS command and configuration guides. Some things are found under the various product line documentation. No you will not have time to use the CD as a crutch, as a substitute for internalizing. Yes, given that you know the basics and don't make too many mistakes, you will have time to look up an occasional thing here or there. HTH Chuck Michael L. Williams wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Chuck wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing where to find things is very helpful. Chuck, Quick question.. I realize that knowing commands and being quick at configuration a requirement in the lab. A CCIE friend of mine suggested that I learn to find virtually everything instantly on Cisco's Documentation CD. Having said that, (and I'm asking because your post implied that you had taken it before), without breaking NDA (of course), is there really time to look up anything on the CD? I realize it's impossible to memorize every single thing.. especially commands, but it seems to me that referencing the CD could take even more time even if you know where to look. Am I way off base here? Thanks for you input! Mike W. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45574t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: IPX Network Configs [7:45477]
Jenny, you are correct, it is 12.1(8)T. As for the fix, here goes. We were receiving an error message later in the evening that said that the limit of 200 IPX network address had been exceeded . There were only 107 IPX networks configured on the router, so we were a bit perplexed. Here is the good part: The router will only accept 200 IPX nets configured, but the catch is that the router sees each network that IPX RIP is config'd for as a seperate network. Being that IPX RIP is config'd by default, we were already up to 214 IPX networks. On top of that, IPX EIGRP was config'd for all the networks as well, bringing the total to 321 nets. I first removed RIP, but still wasn't able to add the IPX network or type-20-prop command . Once I removed RIP AND EIGRP I was able to add the network . At that point, I put RIP and EIGRP back into the config and all is now well. Thank you very much for your interest and input! Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45576t=45477 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
These are rather hard to find- the full set of IOS books weighs around 75 or 80 pounds (paperbacks) and retails for around $1000 USD The Cisco product #'s for 12.0 12.1 are on this page below. http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/iaabu/csvpnc/csvpnsg/icp re.htm All the best !!! Phil -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roberts, Larry Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] I would be curious how you ordered them as well. The last set I have is for 11.3. I just got off the phone with Cisco and they were clueless about what I was talking about.. Thanks Larry -Original Message- From: Jeff Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 4:03 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] Is this set for all products or just the products that you have a contract on? Just wondering as we don't have any manuals at all (besides the little getting started booklets that come with WIC's and whatnot). We're a Premier Partner as well.. -- Jeff Harris - Cisco/Unix Engineer CCNA, CCNP Routing, Remote Access Passed On Fri, May 31, 2002 at 04:14:10PM -0400, Shawn Heisey wrote: I have a set of 12.2 IOS documentation at home ordered for free with a smartnet contract. It would be worth ordering a smartnet contract on your smallest piece of Cisco hardware just for the documentation you can get for free. http://www.cisco.com/upgrade Thanks, Shawn MADMAN wrote: We have a very large smartnet contract and used to get the hard copies as they came out. The last hardcopies I seen were 11.2. I don't even know if they print them anymore. Dave Brad Ellis wrote: John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45575t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Just ordered the complete copy of manuals for 12.2 IOS Documentation Set :-) THANKS for that info...I knew there was a reason for being on groupstudy... -Eric - Original Message - From: Brad Ellis To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45573t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: PIX 501 [7:45544]
I ran into the same problem. So I put this together to document what I found through trail and error and the few books on the subject. Look it over and tell me what you think. The link is www.chipps.com/Firewall.ppt This is a PowerPoint file. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of jb Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 1:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: PIX 501 [7:45544] Team, Any good book that will help me to configure my new toy (pix 501) and at the same time be able to learn more about security with Cisco... Thanks, J Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45577t=45544 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
The IOS documentation has a section on QoS. Check CC0 Regarless of your method of preparation you need to take some test to check your understanding. Boson was a great help in that matter. Good luck on your exam. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45578t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486]
Eric, Could you please run us through the links that you used or what you did to order these? Thanks, Shawn -Original Message- From: Eric Rogers [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] Just ordered the complete copy of manuals for 12.2 IOS Documentation Set :-) THANKS for that info...I knew there was a reason for being on groupstudy... -Eric - Original Message - From: Brad Ellis To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 10:38 AM Subject: Re: CCIE Lab Reading [7:45486] John, I believe if you have a smartnet contract, you can get the IOS manuals free from Cisco (at least you could a couple years ago). thanks, -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (RS / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.optsys.net (Cisco hardware) [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth) wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... On Oct 20, 7:01pm, Chuck wrote: } } Someone who passed the lab recently advised me ( as have other folks who } have posted their success here and elsewhere ) that it remains CRITICAL that } you spend as much time as possible reading the command references as found } on CCO. Print as much out as you can. Study them. Knowing the knobs, knowing } where to find things is very helpful. eBay seller [EMAIL PROTECTED] often has complete sets of printed 12.2 manuals. The price seems to range from $100 to $200 (of course, shipping is a killer). I bought a set and they are quite nice to use for reference; although, they do take up four feet of shelf space (I need more book shelves). They are organised just like the doc CD, and you quickly learn what is where, since you can't just type a command name into a search box (I suppose you could cheat and look it up in the master index, but I haven't cracked that one open yet). }-- End of excerpt from Chuck Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45579t=45486 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535]
Congratulations!!! Excellent work!!! --- Dennis - Original Message - From: Pierre-Alex Guanel To: Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: CCIE Written passed - Boson [7:45535] I took the CCIE written yesterday afternoon and passed (80%) I was expecting more, but I flunked the performance/QoS section of the exam, which I neglected somewhat during preparation. I used both Boson #1 and Boson #3. Those 2 tests are complementary and are NOT substitute for each other. Boson #3 focuses on SNA issues where as Boson #1 focuses on the other networking topics. If you can, you should purchase both tests. For preparation I did a pre-test on Boson #3 and discovered how little SNA and ATM I knew. For 3 weeks, I studied SNA and ATM using CCO + hands-on until the whole thing felt natural. Then, on the 4th week of preparation I repeated the same strategy with Boson #1. I dicovered 3 areas of networking where I had some weaknesses. I only had time to work on 2 of them thoroughly before the test. Thank you to Bernard and Dennis for excellent test materials and to all those who gracefully took the time to answer my questions. I particularly want to thank Priscilla and Leigh Anne who both put me back on track several times during the last two years and Daniel Cotts for squeezing some time out of his busy schedule to spend some time discussing Cisco with me. Pierre-Alex Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7i=45580t=45535 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]