from:"Dale"


I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 -- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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OSPF ? [7:685]


I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 -- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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OSPF ? [7:651]


I have an as5300 that i am advertising the pool addresses via ospf.  I am
redistributing static and conected subnets.  However when i do a sh ip
route xxx.xxx.xxx.0 i am seeing two or three entries like:

U   xxx.xxx.xxx.0/24 [1/0] via xxx.xxx.xxx.99 -- 1 of the pool ips


This is causing the LSA to age out prematurely (every 14 seconds or so)  
and our routers are dropping the routes to this class c of pool ips.  
Right now as a temp fix i have a static route in our router.

Any thoughts on how to get that per-user static route to not show up?

Thanks

Dale

p.s. I am new to OSPF so go easy on me :)




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Apology [7:732]


I apoogize for the multiple posts on my ospf question.

dale




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AS5300 radius

2001-03-15 Thread Dale Frohman


Quick question for the group.  I have an AS5300 that i thought i had setup
for two radius servers, however we had a situation where the primary
radius server went down and the 5300 did not switch to use the secondary.
I had to remove the primary in order for the secondary to work.

Here is what i had configured:

radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard

Thanks



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Re: AS5300 radius

2001-03-15 Thread Dale Frohman


i have 

aaa authentication ppp default local group radius

does the local make a difference?  would any other aaa settings have an
effect on my situation? this is the complete top half of the config:

aaa new-model
aaa authentication login default group radius local
aaa authentication login console none
aaa authentication login secure group radius enable
aaa authentication login vty line none
aaa authentication login dialup-login group radius local
aaa authentication ppp default local group radius
aaa authorization exec default if-authenticated group radius local
aaa authorization network default group radius if-authenticated local
aaa accounting update newinfo
aaa accounting network default start-stop group radius

On Thu, 15 Mar 2001, Adam Hickey wrote:

 I think it is just the matter of having...
 
 aaa authentication ppp default group radius
 
 in the config. It supposedly uses the list of radius servers configured.
 
 Adam Hickey
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 Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2001 7:25 AM
 Subject: AS5300 radius
 
 
  Quick question for the group.  I have an AS5300 that i thought i had setup
  for two radius servers, however we had a situation where the primary
  radius server went down and the 5300 did not switch to use the secondary.
  I had to remove the primary in order for the secondary to work.
 
  Here is what i had configured:
 
  radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
  radius-server host x.x.x.x auth-port 1812 acct-port 1813 non-standard
 
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HEX

2001-03-06 Thread Dale Frohman


Thank you everyone for your help with hex conversions.

Dale

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RE: HEX

2001-03-02 Thread Dale Frohman


exactly.  I had a friend who told me there was some HEX conversions on the
BCMSN exam which i am scheduled to take in a couple of weeks.

On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Barronton, Ken wrote:

 Because you can't use it during an exam. Real life...OK, exam...NO.
 
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 Sent: Friday, March 02, 2001 6:27 AM
 To: 'Dale Frohman'
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 Why don't you use the calculator of windows accesories?
 
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HEX

2001-03-01 Thread Dale Frohman


Does anyone have a way/tricks in remembering how to do HEX conversions?

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flash

2001-02-26 Thread Dale Frohman


Is flash from an AS5300 interchangeable with flash from any other cisco
device?

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RE: what is the average age of people in this stuff?

2001-02-26 Thread Dale Frohman


If they think you are young, they will probably think I am still a baby
being only 19.  I have my CCNA, 1/4 CCNP and actively seeking MCSE 2k.  I
also have an AA degree and also seeking my bachelor degree in computer
science.  I plan on getting my CCIE within the next few years.  I have
worked with an internet company for more than three years now.  I have
been told that I am impatient and immature, but I am not one to just sit
around.  If anyone can help me dispel some of these notions I would be
greatly thankful.  Also if someone veterans can give some pointers/tips on
how to make it in this industry, that would also be helpful.  I hope all
this hard work pays off!

Dale


On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mel Chandler PMI wrote:

 I'm 29 and all I ever hear about is how young I am (I guess youth is
 automatically associated with inexperience)  But I've been around.  I've
 done a four year tour in the Navy in the Advanced Electronics field as a
 Sonar Technician on a Submarine.  I've worked for some fortune 500 companies
 like Airtouch, IBM, Boeing, AST, Bergen Brunswick.  I have some certs to
 back me up, but no matter what I do, it just never seems to be enough...  Oh
 well, maybe after I have a PhD and CCIE I'll get someone to listen to me.
 
 Mel L. Chandler, A+, Network+, MCNE, MCP+I, MCSE, CCNA
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 (562) 467-6627
 
 
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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: what is the average age of people in this stuff?
 
 
 LOL!
 
 I am 36, and have the same problem, thank Cisco that they put a ? in the
 IOS.
 
 Don't worry about it, most of the people I work (worked) with in the network
 business are between 20-60 with the majority being in their 40's.
 
 They say that memory is the first thing to go, I just wish would have told
 my body that!
 
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Re: where can I download free TFTP server?

2001-02-22 Thread Dale Frohman


try tucows.com and search for tftp under windows NT.  A program called
pumpkin should show up.  I use this and have had nothing but good luck
with it.  It is also free.

Dale

On Thu, 22 Feb 2001, Sim, CT (Chee Tong) wrote:

 Hi..Dear all, just a short question where can I download the free TFTP
 server and install on Windows NT or Linux? 
 
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RE: BRI interface

2001-01-24 Thread Dale Cantrell


Hi guys,
The only way to get a 2500 with a U interface is with a module card.
Something like the 2524, 2525... something or other,,I forget.
Adios,
Dale CCNA

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Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2001 15:35:24 -0600

Hubert,

This question has been asked before so you can search the archives for a
better answer but I think it was if the router had a U interface it would
say so when you did a show int or show int bri 0...   and if it didn't it
would just say bri interface..  it might also depend on the router hardware
and or software version.. can't remember

Cory



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Hi,

I have a Cisco 2503 and a Cisco 2522DC router.  They both have BRI
interface. However, how can I check out that whether they are U
interface or S/T interface?  The cisco web site just says that this is a
BRI interface without specifying what kind it is.
(Both routers are for Canada routers)

Thanks

Hubert


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CIT 2 / Support test - passing grade?

2000-11-20 Thread Dale Bewley


I'm taking this test on 11/30, but I can't find what the passing
percentage is. Is this supposed to be a secret or something?
What is it?

--
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RE: Wireless LANS

2000-10-30 Thread Dale Holmes


How about "Anyone who makes the agument today that any single technology is 
appropriate for everyone is stupid!"???

Wireless is cool, and has many applications, but not everybody needs it. 
There are many situations where it would be impractical or simply 
inappropriate.

I know it is all in good fun, but I am not sure that it benefits anybody to 
have NPA members practice justifying claims that are simply ludicrous. Why 
not investigate the top 5 most unexpected wireless success scenarios, or 
something like that, if you simply want to get people excited about learning 
new technologies?

Sorry for the overwhelming negativity, but it *is* Monday...

Dale
[=`)


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LANS
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:33:33 -0800

At 11:56 AM 10/30/00, Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NNSY wrote:
Three words...

SECURITY - SECURITY - SECURITY

Three words:

ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION ;-)

How many of us use encryption on wired LANs? Probably not many. But
everyone seems to use encryption on wireless LANs, at least 802.11
wireless, which is what I'm familiar with... So that seems like an
advantage, not a disadvantage.

The disadvantages I can think of for wireless are:

1. It's pretty slow ( 11 Mbps shared bandwidth)
2. Mobile wireless is fraught with issues. How do you get a new IP address
when you move from subnet to subnet? (Of course, that's not too
straightforward on wired either, come to think of it.)

Priscilla




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From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:32 AM
To: CiscoStudyGroup
Subject: OT: Wireless LANS


As a member of the local chapter of the NPA  (Network Professional
Association) I have been tasked with an interesting assignment. I need
to make the following argument:

Anyone who uses a wired network today is stupid! or Anyone who doesn't
use a wireless LAN is stupid! (take your pick)

This is of course all in fun. I of course want to do as good a job as
possible so my question is this.

If you had to make the argument that wireless is the only way to go for
local area networking what would you say??

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RE: Wireless LANS

2000-10-30 Thread Dale Holmes


How about "Anyone who makes the argument today that any single technology is 
appropriate for everyone is stupid!"???

Wireless is cool, and has many applications, but not everybody needs it. 
There are many situations where it would be impractical or simply 
inappropriate.

I know it is all in good fun, but I am not sure that it benefits anybody to 
have NPA members practice justifying claims that are simply ludicrous. Why 
not investigate the top 5 most unexpected wireless success scenarios, or 
something like that, if you simply want to get people excited about learning 
new technologies?

Sorry for the overwhelming negativity, but it *is* Monday...

Dale
[=`)


From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Wireless LANS
Date: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 12:33:33 -0800

At 11:56 AM 10/30/00, Stanfield Hilman B (Brad) CONT NNSY wrote:
Three words...

SECURITY - SECURITY - SECURITY

Three words:

ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION, ENCRYPTION ;-)

How many of us use encryption on wired LANs? Probably not many. But
everyone seems to use encryption on wireless LANs, at least 802.11
wireless, which is what I'm familiar with... So that seems like an
advantage, not a disadvantage.

The disadvantages I can think of for wireless are:

1. It's pretty slow ( 11 Mbps shared bandwidth)
2. Mobile wireless is fraught with issues. How do you get a new IP address
when you move from subnet to subnet? (Of course, that's not too
straightforward on wired either, come to think of it.)

Priscilla




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-Original Message-
From: Michael Linehan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, October 30, 2000 10:32 AM
To: CiscoStudyGroup
Subject: OT: Wireless LANS


As a member of the local chapter of the NPA  (Network Professional
Association) I have been tasked with an interesting assignment. I need
to make the following argument:

Anyone who uses a wired network today is stupid! or Anyone who doesn't
use a wireless LAN is stupid! (take your pick)

This is of course all in fun. I of course want to do as good a job as
possible so my question is this.

If you had to make the argument that wireless is the only way to go for
local area networking what would you say??

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Re: CiscoWorks 5.0 trail location

2000-10-27 Thread Dale Holmes


I think that the Cisco Works 5.0 trail begins somewhere in Georgia and 
extends through the mountains of Virginia and Maryland, then up through 
Pennsylvania, and continues into the mountains of Vermont... Oh wait, that's 
a different trail. Nevermind!

[=`)


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Date: Fri, 27 Oct 2000 12:06:02 -0700

Recently, someone querried about the location of a trail version of
CiscoWorks 5.0.  The very next thread entry was, "Never mind, I found it!"

The actual location, however, remained an unpublished mystery.

Who might share the authenticity and actualy location of such an offer?

Best, G.

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Re: Bruce Caslow

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes


I hear that it is a great class, as long as you don't mind working with a 
half rack (3 routers) and no token ring... Oh, and if you don't understand 
something that is presented I hope you don't expect to have it explained...

This is what I have heard from those who have actually taken the course. I 
have not done so myself - there are better ways to spend that kind of $$$ 
(IMNSHO).


From: "info" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bruce Caslow
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:58:18 -0400

I just registered to take a class with the company
that employs Bruce Caslow's teaching services;
Mentor Technologies.

I was wondering if any of you have had the opportunity
to take  his lab exam prep course. The woman I
spoke with estimated that 80% of the people
who take the course pass the lab exam on the
first try.

I am mildly skeptical of that but not enough to
not attend the class.

In any case, has anyone had experience with
this group Mentor Technologies? Is Caslow
the best instructor there? I've been told that
all the other instructors are his students. I
was told they allow you to stay in the classroom
practicing stuff as long as you wantinto the
wee hours of the night if necessary.

On a similar note: has anyone had excellent results
from a class from another vendor?


On an unrelated note: thanks so much to all who
responded to my query about bandwidth statements
on frame relay links. Definitely helped alot!


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Re: Mentor Tech was Bruce Caslow

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes

- Original Message -
From: Daniel Cotts
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2000 12:10 PM
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I believe that Mentor has created a place where really good people can
thrive. Hence they have the best instructors.

Then why is the DC - Baltimore market flooded right now with people who have 
either quit or been fired from Mentor?
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Re: Lammle Address

2000-10-26 Thread Dale Holmes



Try:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Dale
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Subject: Lammle Address
Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 10:39:57 -0700

I need to contact Todd Lammle and have lost his e-mail address.
Sure would appreciate if someone could send it to me.

TIA,

Tom Lisa, Instructor, CCNA, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco Regional Networking Academy

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RE: Possible phony CCIE

2000-10-25 Thread Dale Holmes

Gee,

Maybe a few of us should get together and meet him in the parking lot one 
night. Who wants to carry the pillowcase with the doorknobs in it???

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Subject: RE: Possible phony CCIE
Date: Mon, 23 Oct 2000 12:35:36 -0400

Raul-

   I brought down the local checkpoint firewall by pinging an large number of
hosts simultaneously. I asked him (the bogus ccie) why he thought that 
would
bring down the firewall? His reply? "The fact that I pinged more than 50
hosts rapid fire caused the NT and Solaris servers on the LAN to start
flooding the wire with excessive SMB traffic, and since the firewall saw
that much SMB traffic it thought I was an intruder and shut down the
interface I was attached to." Real reason: The old Firewall one software 
had
a bug that misallocated memory for packet queues on internal interfaces. My
excessive pinging caused the queue to overflow and the software itself
crashed. An update fixed the problem. At least that was what the data 
center
manager told me.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Raul F. Fernandez
Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 9:57 AM
To: Tim O'Brien; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco
Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE

Dear folks,

I have to agree with Tim on this one. It may have been possible that the
person at this site just did not pay enough attention to the question posed
or that he may not known the answer. I do not know thew nature of the
question. Perhaps Mark could be kind  enough to let us know what the
question was or were. Now depending on the nature and difficulty of the
question it may justify his not being able to answer it. If he is lying he
should be disciplined because he lied and because he has taken for granted
all the blood sweat and tears that goes into getting a CCIE. I think too
many folks get caught up in the CCIE and forget all the real hard work that
goes into it. Basically, if he does not know the answer to a perplexing
question he should at least be able to outline a troubleshooting plan to
find it.

Raul
-Original Message-
From: Tim O'Brien [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Cisco [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, October 23, 2000 8:51 AM
Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE

 Just because a guy can config a router it does not make him a god. Lets
face
 it guys, there is nobody out there that knows everything about 
everything,
 and if there is someone that thinks they do, I guarantee there is someone
 else out there that knows more than they do. Obviously if this guy is 
lying
 about his CCIE he should be exposed, and after reported it is up to Cisco
to
 deal with as they see fit.

 .02

 Tim

 - Original Message -
 From: "Sam LI" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: "Mark Cohen" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 6:41 AM
 Subject: Re: Possible phony CCIE

 Well, even some real one behave like this, i come across a few in the the
 past

 - Original Message -
 From: Mark Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Monday, October 23, 2000 3:55 PM
 Subject: Possible phony CCIE

  Greetings-

  I recently worked on a project with a fellow who claimed to be a CCIE. 
He
  even gave me his card with the CCIE logo on it. At least I think it is
the
  CCIE logo. It is a router symbol surrounded with laurels and has the
words
  Cisco Certified Internetwork Engineer circling it as well. After asking
 this
  person a few questions, I became suspicious of his credentials due to 
his
  apparent lack of knowledge of the fundamentals. (I never asked for his
 CCIE
  number because I attempted verification only after I left the account). 
I
  faxed a copy of the business card he gave me (homemade BTW) to someone 
in
  the CCIE program at Cisco.  She told me the card is bogus and that she
 would
  send the card to the Cisco lawyers. That was three months ago and this
  person is STILL working on site there. What do you people think I 
should
 do
  now? Send e-mail to the persons that are contracting him there? He is
  charging a very high bill rate. The people he is working don't have
enough
  knowledge to confirm his credentials. Should I let this go? Isn't part 
of
 my
  cert agreement with Cisco to protect the logo? I feel that Cisco isn't
 doing
  anything to protect us here.

  Mark Cohen
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I

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Re: Why 53-bytes for a cell?

2000-10-20 Thread Dale Holmes

Ask the French...

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Subject: Why 53-bytes for a cell?
Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2000 15:58:33 +0800

Thanks

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Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator

2000-10-20 Thread Dale Holmes


Or you could buy it brand new from me for $1749, and sell it on E-bay for 
around $1749...

$1749 is my everyday price on the TelTone Demonstrator model...

Dale
[=`)


From: "Kenneth Lorenzo" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: CCIE Lab - ISDN Simulator
Date: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 22:08:01 -0400

It might be cheaper out of the pocket but after 2 months or more , a
simulator is cheaper since you can sell it (if it's in decent shape) for
about 80% of the price you had paid for at ebay. A teltone simulator can be
bought at ebay at around $1850 and you can probably sell it back at around
$1700...

"Brian" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
 
  Personally, the simulators seem too expensive.  For example, you *might*
  be able to get one for like $1500.00.  Well to get an ISDN line at your
  house is probably only about $200.00 install and maybe $70-$80 a month.
 
  You only need 1 ISDN line.  It has 2 channels.  You just use an external
  NT1 and S/T interfaces on your routers, and you can place calls between
  the two.  Is cheaper imho.
 
  Brian
 
 
  On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, FRS wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   I am looking for recommendations for a ISDN simulator in preparation 
for
the
   CCIE Lab exam. Is there a simulator used in the lab exam and if yes,
what
   type?
   I have heard that I should get an Adtran Atlas 800 Switch with 2 BRI
   interfaces. Does anyone know the estimated cost of this unit, used not
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Re: Window field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes


Hmm, sounds like I need to dust off my old copy of Visual Studio (and my 
brain) and bang this utility out.

Maybe after I pass the lab. No, then I've got the design lab to prepare for 
(have you heard anything about that???)... Maybe someone else better do 
it...

Seriously - I agree that it would be a cool tool! I didn't know that 
EtherPeek would let you capture and view the decode at the same time - that 
is really cool! I need that now... I better take a look that EtherPeek. Does 
it run only on a Mac?

Dale
[=`)


From: Priscilla Oppenheimer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: "Window" field - TCP packet
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 14:12:05 -0700

Nice answer, Dale.

Do you think he was literally asking for a utility that would show the
window size as a station was transmitting? That would be quite useful
actually...

EtherPeek from www.WildPackets.com (used to be AG Group) lets you capture
and display packets at the same time. So you could filter on your station
and its partner and track windows that way. You could see the receive
window rather easily, since it's size is advertised on every segment. The
send window would be harder, requiring an analysis of sequence numbers and
the other side's receive window.

But I can't think of a utility that graphically shows send and receive
windows for a transmitter. That would be really cool, wouldn't it?

Priscilla


At 03:55 PM 10/17/00, Dale Holmes wrote:
Each station in a TCP conversation will advertise a window which
represents the amount of buffer space that the station has available for
this conversation. The window size of a packet is the buffer available for
the station that is sending the packet, indicating to the recipient how
much data to send.

It is called a "sliding window" because it is variable and will change
throughout the course of the conversation.

For more detail on this, I would look at Douglas Comer's "Internetworking
with TCP/IP" volume I.

I have not seen a utility that will display the window size during the
transmission of the packet. A sniffer will display all of the packet
fields, but only after you have captured the transfer and opted to display
it (but of course you knew that already)...

Dale
[=`)


From: "Billy Monroe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: "Window" field - TCP packet
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:05:12 -0700

Hello:

Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting 
a
TCP packet ?

I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
receiving station.

Thanks,

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Re: Window field - TCP packet

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Cantrell


Hi Dale, you can find a copy of Ethepeek/Tokenpeek on every CD that comes in 
the Sybex Todd Lammle books. Old CCNA 1.0, ACRC books in particular. Hope 
you get the lab on first try. :)
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Re: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes


I have seen 12.1(4) work well on a fully stocked 7513 (with FE, SMDS, TR, 
and FDDI).

Of course, YMWV. There is no way to say for sure that it won't take *your* 
backbone out... [=`)

Dale
[=`)


From: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Slightly OT: Stable IOS versions, 12.1?
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:39:56 -0700 (PDT)

We are currently running 11.2(17) on our 7513 backbone router and we're
going to be upgrading to 12 in the near future.  After examining  the bug
reports I initially picked 12.0(12) since it looked pretty stable.  
However,
12.0 does not have some nifty features that we like, especially the
"grep"-like command "include" and the ability to pipe show commands.

We are now putting 12.1(4) on our branch routers (2620s) but I was 
wondering
if anyone had any experience, good or bad, with 12.1 on a 7500 series
router.  We need error-free performance with EIGRP, DLSw+, IP, IPX, WFQ,
ATM.

I'm a little hesitant to put the latest IOS on our backbone router, but 
from
the looks of it, 12.1(4) might be a better choice than 12.0(12), but it
seems like upgrading the IOS on a Cisco router is a crap shoot; you just
pray that the bugs of that particular version don't hurt you TOO much.

Ok, I'll quit rambling and go get some more coffee.  Any input will be
gladly accepted.

-- John





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Re: OT: 5-4-3 rule

2000-10-18 Thread Dale Holmes


From a document at U Texas:
(http://wwwhost.ots.utexas.edu/ethernet/ch13-ora/ch13.html)

--Begin Quote---
The "5-4-3" Rule

An over-simplified version of the 10 Mbps Model 1 rules, called the "5-4-3" 
rule, has been circulating for some years. Various forms of the 5-4-3 rule 
have been published, and some of them include misleading terms that are 
incorrect. To quote from one widely distributed configuration guide, the 
5-4-3 rule means that there may be as many as five segments connected in 
series in a network. This guide further states that up to four repeaters may 
be used, and up to three "populated segments." A populated segment is 
defined as a segment that is "attached to PCs."

While this may sound like an easy to remember rule of thumb, the "5-4-3" 
rule is an over-simplification of the actual configuration rules described 
above. Worse, the use of the term "populated segment" is misleading. This 
definition means that a coax segment could be regarded as an "unpopulated" 
segment in a network system as long as two conditions were met. First, the 
coax segment was not used to support PCs and, second, the segment was only 
used as a link segment to connect to a repeater at each end. However, this 
is incorrect.

A link segment is specifically defined in the 802.3 standard as a segment 
based on a point-to-point full-duplex media type that connects two--and only 
two--MAUs. A full-duplex medium means that the medium provides separate 
transmit and receive data paths. This is important, since collision 
detection occurs faster on a full-duplex medium than it does on coaxial 
segments. This difference in timing is factored into the total round-trip 
timing delays that are incorporated in the Model 1 configuration guidelines. 
That's why the notion of an "unpopulated" coax segment that could be used as 
a link segment is misleading and incorrect.

To recast the 5-4-3 rule into something closer to reality, we can define it 
to mean that you can have up to five segments in series, with up to four 
repeaters, and no more than three "mixing" segments. If three mixing 
segments are used, then the remaining two segments must be link segments as 
defined in 802.3. Actually, you can have up to four mixing segments under 
some circumstances as described in the real 802.3 rules above, so even our 
corrected 5-4-3 rule is still an over-simplification.
--End Quote---

So, I hope that helps...

Dale
[=`)


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Subject: OT: 5-4-3 rule
Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 07:50:06 -0700 (PDT)

Using the 5-4-3 rule, why can only 3 segments be populated

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Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase cisco to cisco.com?


Yeah - that's a good idea!!!

Change your website to one that is a shrine to the Cisco beverage!!! I bet 
that they won't complain... Remove all of the info that pertains to Cisco 
Systems - all of it - and replace it with pictures of the Cisco drink and 
anecdotes about what you did when you drank it...

Then tell the lawyers that you refuse to give up the domain, and tell them 
to examine the new content.

I'd like to see if they just drop this witch hunt if the content does not 
include them, or if they continue...


From: "whatshakin" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 00:08:00 -0700

It is not illegal to have the Cisco name in your domain name unless you use
it for Cisco Systems content.  After all, there is a Cisco fish, drink, 
city
and kid to name just a few, and none of those are in violation of the Cisco
Systems trademark.

Tell them you'll hand it over for $10K or a free Catalyst 8500 if they want
it that badly!  :-)


- Original Message -
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Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 11:25 PM
Subject: Hand over the domain with the phrase "cisco" to cisco.com?


  Dear All Cisco GroupStudy Members,
 
  I would like to thank the Cisco GroupStudy Mailing
  List for the contribution on the Cisco Certification,
  and for the information which is very useful, with
  some have been put to my site: ciscosite.com.
 
  I have just received some messages stating that the
  ciscosite.com should be handed over to Cisco because
  of using the phrase "cisco" and because of the
  attached reasons. Does anyone of you have the problem
  like this, that the domain name should be handed over
  to Cisco? I would like to know this further because
  it's the only domain name I have ever registered right
  now, and I have promoted it even in my namecards.
 
  And concerning this, I have replied to Brobeck that I
  would better appeal this case to the GroupStudy first
  before making any further steps. So all of your
  suggestions are very expected.
 
  Thanks in advance for your comments regarding this.
 
  With Sincerity,
  Wisin
  http://www.ciscosite.com
 
  Attached message:
 
  Dear Wisin,
 
  I will respond to your questions in turn.
 
  First, while we appreciate your stated willingness to
  comply with Cisco's
  requests, we note that the changes we have requested
  have not been made to
  your site to date.  Please ensure that these changes
  are completed by
  October 17, 2000.
 
  Second, the fact that a registrar permits registration
  of a domain name has
  no bearing on whether the domain name is in violation
  of another party's
  trademark rights.  Registrars do not make independent
  determinations of the
  propriety of a domain name registration; they simply
  determine whether a
  name has been registered previously.  The fact that
  you actually registered
  ciscosite.com does not give you the right to use
  Cisco's trademark as part
  of your domain name.
 
  Finally, Cisco does not provide compensation for the
  discontinued use of a
  domain name.  Cisco will provide you with compensation
  for the actual cost
  of transferring the domain name to Cisco, and will
  permit you to use the
  domain name for a limited period of time for the sole
  purpose of informing
  users of the address of your new website.  If you
  intend to use the site
  temporarily to direct people to your new site, please
  commence this use
  immediately and ensure that the site is taken down by
  October 17, 2000.
 
  Thank you for your continued cooperation.
 
  Sincerely,
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Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule


Oh God, are we all gonna have to learn what DCE and DTE are???

NO Anything but that..

hehehe
[=`)
Dale


From: "Kevin Wigle" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: "Ben" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 09:29:40 -0400

well, a cable "modem" attaches with a Cat5 cable.

Haven't seen one but the xDSL "modem" probably does too.

I have a buddy who makes a DB9/DB25 custom plug and uses Cat5 between them
for just about everything.

Kevin Wigle
CCDP/CCNP.

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Subject: RE: cross-over roll-over : Here is THE simplest rule


  H, let me think. I never thought of that, that someday we will be
  connecting a workstation to a modem with a Cat5 cable.
  Workstation to a modem, ?  no the rule does not apply
  How about a TV to a VCR?   no, it does not apply neither.
  How about the toaster?   nooope.
 
  You are right, that is not a good rule. Don't use it.
 
  Bernard
 
 
 
 
 
  How about when you connect a workstation to a modem will this rule 
apply?
I
  think not.
  This rule will only be applicable to LAN devices but for WAN devices the
  rule  as Sebastian pointed out should be applied.
 
 
  The rule is:
  connecting devices of the same OSI layer, use cross-over cable.
  connecting devices of different layers, use straight through.
  A workstation is considered layer3.
  
  Bernard
 
 
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Re: This is a test please reply


I did not receive this message...


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Subject: This is a test please reply
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:21:43 -0400


This is a test please reply

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Re: Window field - TCP packet


Each station in a TCP conversation will advertise a window which represents 
the amount of buffer space that the station has available for this 
conversation. The window size of a packet is the buffer available for the 
station that is sending the packet, indicating to the recipient how much 
data to send.

It is called a "sliding window" because it is variable and will change 
throughout the course of the conversation.

For more detail on this, I would look at Douglas Comer's "Internetworking 
with TCP/IP" volume I.

I have not seen a utility that will display the window size during the 
transmission of the packet. A sniffer will display all of the packet fields, 
but only after you have captured the transfer and opted to display it (but 
of course you knew that already)...

Dale
[=`)


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Subject: "Window" field - TCP packet
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 12:05:12 -0700

Hello:

Is there any way to see the size of the (sliding) window when transmiting a
TCP packet ?

I saw a "Window" field using a sniffer and the number was big 28765...
Please correct me if I am wrong: I believe that is the buffer of the
receiving station.

Thanks,

Ronaldo



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Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Holmes


Except that when you are that young and also that intelligent, doing things 
like going to chucky cheese makes you want to go postal...

A recent experience I had with a similarly gifted child drove the point 
home. At a birthday party at the earlier mentioned Chucky Cheese's, I saw 
this particular young girl (my neice, who is 12 years old) crying. Not 
weeping or wailing, but just one or two tears as she looked out over the 
play area.

"What's wrong?" I asked her.

"Look at all the sad, silly little morons!" she said.

"What's wrong with them?" I asked.

She looked at me and asked "Did you ever look at someone and see their whole 
life - everything that's ever gonna happen to them - and you can't even tell 
them because they don't believe you?"

"Yes" I said, stunned...

"It's sad, that's all" she said.

"Wanna go to the bookstore?" I asked.

"YEAH!" she said, and she was out the door like greased lightning.

Smart kids need challenges and interesting diversions, not fertilizer for 
vegetation. Things that are great fun for most kids are insipid to them. 
They have an appetite for greater and greater things, and that appetite 
needs to be fed. I do the best I can as her uncle. With parts I gave her, 
she built her own Pentium PC, and installs her own software (NT 4, IE 5, 
language software, games, etc.). I am not sure what she does with the 
chemistry set I gave her, but she hasn't burned the house down yet... She 
hasn't started any Cisco certs yet, but the idea appeals to her.

Kids that do go after certs aren't comsumed by them like adults are. They 
just play it like a game, and do it in between all the other stuff they do. 
It's fun for them, and they relish the challenge.

PS - the book my neice decided on that day was a book of soccer plays and 
strategies - she's on the team this year and is really giving it her all... 
so being smart doesn't make here a "bookworm". She still gets out there and 
lives her life, she just needs a lttle something more than Pokemon and video 
games.

Dale
[=`)

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 10:41:09 -0500

If your 12 or even 18 and trying to acheive any certification, your life
must suck. What happened to having a childhood? I didn't know what I wanted
to do until I was 20something. These kids should be forced to go to
ChuckyCheese eveyday for a year.

"Kris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  I commend young kids who attempt and more importantly achieve these
  things.  Though at a young age I was actively involved in subjects 
taught
  in most first year university comp sci courses, I must say that it pales
  in comparisson to a 12 year old who is working towards CCIE.  He is
  sponsored by Global Knowledge btw.
 
  Kris,
 
   From: "McCallum, Robert" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number
  
   Here is a little poser for you all.  Who is / was the youngest CCIE 
and
  what
   was his / her age when they attained the CCIE?
  
   Robert McCallum
 
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Hypothetical BGP question

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Holmes


Take a look at the sketch here:

http://www.allnetllc.net/plans/bgp.gif

Disregard the screwy triangle connections to the Ethernets... each device 
has only a single connection to the Ethernet networks. Something weird 
happens when I save a Visio drawing as a GIF...

Routers 1A and 1B are Primary and secondary HSRP
Routers 2A and 2B are Primary and secondary HSRP

Two sites of a large Enterprise network are connected to 2 ISP's. The 
company has 2 assigned public IP address blocks. They would like to 
advertise 1 block from each site. The Internet routers at each of the sites 
are not (and cannot be) directly connected.

Traffic from the Internet that flows into the network from Router 1A (or 1B) 
must not cross the link between Router C and Router D. Traffic from the the 
Internet from Router 2A (or 2B) must not cross the link between Router C and 
Router D. Likewise, internal traffic destined for the Internet must get 
there via the local connection to the Internet, and not by crossing the link 
between Router C and D.

Here is the Question:

How many AS's are required to build this scenario (and have it work)? 
Remember that all these routers and both these address blocks are under a 
single administrative control...

Thanks!

Dale
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Re: IP Unnumbered.

2000-10-16 Thread Dale Cantrell

Thanks Ms. Jenny. I was wondering whether loopback was an option. The 
numbering of the Unumbered was getting to me. :)
Dale CCNA

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IP Unnumbered.
Date: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 11:25:13 +1100

Of course, you can always use a loopback address as the 'unnumbered' 
address,
which gets around the problems of the ethernet availability.
Obviously the loopback interface uses an address itself, but depending on
whether you're using a loopback interface anyway, and how many unnumbered
interfaces refer to it, unnumbered with a loopback can still save IP 
addresses.

JMcL

-- Forwarded by Jenny Mcleod/NSO/CSDA on 17/10/2000 
11:23 am
---

"Brian W." [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 17/10/2000 09:31:40 am

Please respond to "Brian W." [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To:   Gunjan Mathur at 9netave [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED] (bcc: JENNY MCLEOD/NSO/CSDA)
Subject:  Re: IP Unnumbered.

There is one huge disadvantage.  If the ether segment goes down in an ip
unnumbered setup, then even if everything is physically ok on the serial
link associated, that serial link will become unusable.  From a monitoring
perspective, unnumbered is a bad idea.  I suspect some people use it to
save ip space.

   Brian

On Mon, 16 Oct 2000, Gunjan Mathur at 9netave wrote:

  Hi,

  Can somebody tell me Advantages  disadvantages of IP unnumbered 
system.

  TIA

  Gm.

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Re: BCRAN info.......

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell


Well.. yes. To get a router or switch to do anything close to what you want, 
you'll use the IOS CLI(interface config and global config). Your typing 
skills will explode. :) If I understand your question right, or maybe you 
meant do they have drag and drop CLI answer options? I hear of people 
passing CCNP without using CLI, but not me.
HTH,
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Re: Virtual Labs to Recommend?

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell



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Re: Virtual Labs to Recommend?

2000-10-15 Thread Dale Cantrell


Tom, can't you see these people are busy comparing puds to see who goes to 
the dentist first
Try routeru.com or fatkid.com There is some sites maybe cheaper, and a whole 
lot of sites more exspensive. Now as for ease of use... :)
Email me buddy.
Dale CCNA


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Subject: Virtual Labs to Recommend?
Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2000 10:39:42 -0500

Assuming a switch and three routers are needed for a
fair percentage of  labs,  which online router racks are
recommended?  Price is a consideration,  as is ease of
use.


Tom Milliner,  CPA,  MCSE+I,  CNE
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Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number

2000-10-13 Thread Dale Holmes


I don't know who holds the title now, but I guess that soon it will be:

Ashish Bakshi, he should have his number by age 13 or 14...

Dale
[=`)



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To: "vr4drvr ." [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: WHIZZ KIDS WHO HAVE THE CCIE number
Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 09:06:22 -0500 (CDT)

On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, vr4drvr . wrote:

  He is a coworker of mine who no longer works at Global.  I think he is 
about
  to turn 21!

ok, my bad :)  I just did a search of the web and turned that
upperhaps even at 21 he could still be the youngest, who knows.

Brian


 
 
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  Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2000 08:33:09 -0500 (CDT)
  
  
  18, works for global data systems in louisiana
  http://www.globaldatasys.com
  
  Brian
  
  
  On Fri, 13 Oct 2000, McCallum, Robert wrote:
  
Here is a little poser for you all.  Who is / was the youngest CCIE 
and
  what
was his / her age when they attained the CCIE?
   
Robert McCallum
   
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Re: ICMP redirects

2000-10-09 Thread Dale Holmes


I beleive that plumb-ing is the act of populating the route table, as 
opposed to plumbing, which (at least in my house) is the act of causing 
water and other fluids to exit through tiny holes and connecting points in 
the pipes that would otherwise carry them to their intended destinations had 
I simply left them alone.

Dale
[=`)


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To: Paul Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED],"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" 
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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 13:00:11 -0700

At 01:59 AM 10/9/00, Paul Werner wrote:

Listed above is what the Internet Standard specifies for proper
operation.  Let's bounce that against reality as we know it:

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q243/4/27.ASP

What does it mean to plumb host routes? I couldn't decode what Microsoft is
attempting to say in this article. If you can explain it, that would be
great. (The other articles did make sense. Thanks for the URLs.)

Thanks

Priscilla


http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q195/6/86.ASP

http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q225/3/44.ASP

As a matter of practice, ICMP redirects have taken the form of
a DoS attack today (at least as implemented in Winthings).

HTH,

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Training and babies, and training babies


From: "Jim Erickson" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Babies rarely come when expected.

---JRE---

It's true! My kids weren't due until January 17th or so, but the came on 
Dec. 26th 1998... Twins! Needless to day, I was unavailable to my contract 
clients for 2 weeks or so, and this came much sooner than I had warned them 
it would.

Nevertheless, if I were a GK manager and an instructor told me that he could 
teach a course on week, but his wife was due to deliver the following week, 
I would have made the effor to ensure that a backup was available before 
signing him to that class. I am not saying the instructor should not have 
taken the class (you gotta work when you have mouths to feed), but the 
training center should have anticipated the potential for early delivery 
when they signed him and acted accordingly.

Now that my kids are here, I am wondering how soon I can start them on their 
Cisco training. Not long ago, one of my girls toddled up to me carrying my 
"Voice over IP Fundamentals" book from Cisco Press, insisting that I read it 
to her. I did. She actually stayed and listened for nearly all of chapter 1. 
She can't speak much English yet, so I can't quiz her, but I can tell she 
retained some of it 'cause she constanly approaches the phone these days, 
which she never did before...

[=`)

Dale



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Subject: Re: Question About Global Knowledge
Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 12:03:23 -0500

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  Concerning the instructor he should have never accepted the class that
week
  knowing his wife was due, And if GNK knew this they should never have 
put
  him in the class.

Babies rarely come when expected.

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Re: Attack?



It's true... AND - the encapsulation failed messages are probably the result 
of layer three - layer 2 mapping failures...

Dale
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Date: Fri, 06 Oct 2000 18:20:25 GMT

Marc,

The "win=8760" is the TCP Sliding Window size.  8760 is the default
for MS Windows.

Terry

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Network Engineer
Connecting Point
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 What exactly is the win=8760? I looked where I could on this port and 
it's
 listed as a proxy port number. And what's with the 'encapsulation failed'
 errors? Can anyone shed anymore light on this? Thanks..
 

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Re: LOOKING FOR CCIE STUDY GROUP DC/VA AREA


Steven,

Are you relsted to me? [=`)

Talk to Bruce Evry - [EMAIL PROTECTED] - about his CPAW study group.

Dale Holmes


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I'm looking for a study group in the DC/VA area!  Will help pay for rack
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Re: Question About Global Knowledge


But the key here is that management did the right thing - they offered the 
students a freebie to maek up for their loss. GK should do the same... These 
things DO happen, and it is not the instructor that should have to bear the 
burden. Unfortunately for the training centers, it is their responsibility 
to handle these situations.

It is the burden of the training centers because they have set up the 
training business to operate the way that it does (don't get me started on 
that!!!...)

Dale
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Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 11:52:30 -0400

A similar experience, but from the instructor perspective.

I don't remember, frankly, if my firm was still PSC or Geotrain
(Geotrain formed from a merger of PSC and Protocol Interface).  GK
bought Geotrain after I left.  In any case, I was to teach a CID in
Toronto, in the training center there.  Since there was nothing to
set up, I flew up on Sunday evening.

Unfortunately, the Sunday was very rushed, and I really didn't have
time for dinner.  While picking up some prescriptions at the Giant
supermarket, I grabbed a package of prepared sushi, which I ate as I
packed, and left about 6 PM.

Around 9PM, I was feeling queasy.  By 11PM, in my hotel room, I
collapsed with food poisoning, and around midnight, called for an
ambulance because I could no longer crawl to the bathroom.  Spent the
night in Toronto General's emergency room, which, incidentally, is an
excellent one if you need to be there.  Definitely was reassured when
I saw my nurse wearing a Starfleet Medical badge.

I started to call the local office around 7 AM, but everyone was in
transit.  Eventually, I reached someone, who checked to see if any of
the local CID people were available -- which they weren't, not
surprisingly since I had been asked to fly in.  There was no good
answer.  I wasn't discharged from the hospital until around noon, and
went back to the hotel and zonked.

The next day, I made it to the training center, although my voice was
in sad shape from prolonged vomiting.  I tried to compress the class,
but there was no good way to handle it. My management offered them
the option to stay or not, but, in any case, they could return free
for another session.

I really don't know the best way to handle something like that.
Especially for the more advanced classes, there aren't necessarily
backup instructors anywhere. Even for basic courses, there may not be
one in the city.

I had a very bad experience with Global Knowledge last year at their New
York Office.  I was taking the ICRC class.
The first day went very well. I dont remember the insturctor name.
However the second day he didnt turn up. Seems his wife delivered a baby
girl.
While we were all happy for him, his not showing up badly screwed up our
training class.
So we sat around doing nothing. The Global Knowledge Training class 
manager
said that they are trying to get another instructor to take the class.  He
had to fly in from Atlanta and started teaching late on the third day ( We
had already lost more than 1 and  half days of training) .
The new insturctor had to now rush through the rest of the material in the
remaining time and even left out some stuff.  We were not able to do even
half of the training labs. On the whole a very disappointing experience. 
My
company who had paid for my training, sent an letter of complaint to 
Global
Knowledge, but they conveniently chose to ignore the letter. No response
from them to this day. We sent out another letter.. still no response.

Very unprofessional of them.

After that experience, my company stopped sending students to Global
knowledge and we have made it a policy never to recommend them to any one.
I am sure many of you may have positive things to say about Global
Knowledge, but this is what happened to me.


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  Hello all,

  A few weeks back their were messages about people that were disapointed
with
  their class that they could send an e-mail to their office . Has anyone
had
  a bad experience . And if so who did they contact ...

  thanks in advance

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Re: Douglas Comer

2000-10-03 Thread Dale Holmes


The Stevens series is outstanding as well, but in a different way. If you 
are looking for a hands-on, UNIX-centric, in depth analysis of the TCP/IP 
suite, then the Stevens series is for you. If you want a full treatment of 
the protocols from a purely theoretical perspective, then you want Comer's 
Volume 1. If you want to understand how to implement these protocols in code 
(and perhaps get a perspective on how vendors do this), then you want 
Comer's Volumes 2 and 3.

I say, get all 6! I did, and it was the loneliest year of my life, but damn 
did I learn something! [=`)

Dale
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Subject: Re: Douglas Comer
Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2000 20:01:04 +0200

They are good book, but I prefer Stevens TCP/IP illustrated series.

They are the best technical book I have.

Mamo

DS I'm sure there was some discussion before in group about Douglas Comer,
DS however I was unable to relocate it.

DS Question:

DS Has anyone an opinion on his three volume series:
DS TCP/IP Vol. I

DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol II

DS Internetworking With TCP/IPVol III

DS Any knowledgeable feedback appreciated.  Thanks.

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Re: Book Review

2000-10-02 Thread Dale Holmes

See comments below...

I would greatly appreciate if someone could help me select books for CCNP
preparation.

At present I have the following books:

1. Cisco Ccnp Preparation Library by Laura A. Chappell, Daniel Farkas, Tim
Boyles
(1st Edition) ISBN: 1578702070

Good set, but you'll need CCNP 2.0 specific info as well...

2. CCIE Professional Development: Routing Tcp/Ip by Jeff Doyle ISBN:
1578700418

Step 1 in any Cisco Cert program. This book is a MUST!

3. Internet Routing Architecture by Bassam Halabi ISBN: 157870233X

Best first book on BGP! This one is another MUST!

4. BSCN by Thomas M. Thomas ISBN: 0072124776
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0072124776/ref=cm_mp_wl/104-1240568-9440706?colid=2MV52LTVCIQ11

You really should get this one. Great book, great author - and he's a
contributor to this list too!

5. Building Cisco MultiLayer Switched Networks by Karen Webb ISBN:
1578700930

6. CCIE Professional Development: Cisco LAN Switching by Kennedy Clark
ISBN: 1578700949

Would you prefer book #5 or #6 or both.

Get both! One is more exam focused, but Kennedy's book has been called the
"switching bible". You should get both, it won't be wasted money...

Dale
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Re: Switching, 640-504

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes

Flashcards and repeated drilling... that's the ticket. It's like how your 
"times tables" used to be taught in public schools...

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Subject: Switching, 640-504
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 10:04:58 -0400

This exam is sitting on my head and crushing it.  *So* many different 
switches to remember, all their cards that they do or do not support (and 
in which slots), how large their CAM tables are, how many ports, which user 
interface comes with which version of software...yadda yadda yadda.

So, instead of asking "is all of this really on the test?" like some 
wannabe paper chaser, I'll ask a slightly more creative question: has 
anyone come up with any mnemonic devices which might help one memorize all 
of these minutiae?

Thanks in advance -

Bradley Wilson
CCNA, CCDA, MCSE, NNCSS, CNX-A, MCT, CTT, and hopefully CCNP if I can 
memorize all this switching nonsense. ;-)

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RE: STP question

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes


Or it could be Lamaze? The port starts breathing deeply, and as the traffic 
approaches is starts to contract, and then... No, on second thought, that's 
probably not what he meant...

Dale
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Subject: RE: STP question
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 07:23:43 -0700

Check your spelling. I think you mean Le Mans, not lamens. The port goes
into racing mode, trying to beat the course time for creating a new tree,
without wrapping itself around one. I still like those Ferrari's the best
:-

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Subject:   RE: STP question

When you plug in your other port the port will go into listening, learning
states.  In lamens terms the port sends out a frame and if it hears it back
it will block - if it doesnt it will forward.  Please see link below:-

http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/doc/product/lan/cat5000/rel_5_2/config/s
pantree.htm

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Subject: STP question



Does STP only stop loops when the router boots?  If I am building a loop
network, and then I boot up the final router with only one interface
plugged in (so it is not yet a loop), and then plug in the other interface
after the fact, what will happen?  Will the other interface start in
blocking or forwarding mode?  The book I am using does not seem clear on
this.

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Re: My impressions of Juniper from the test lab

2000-09-29 Thread Dale Holmes

Thanks David! Nice review...

From: "David Wolsefer" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: My impressions of Juniper from the test lab
Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:31:33 -0700

The juniper M20,M40, and M160 are serious routers in the core IP routing
world because they simply outperform the 12000GSR. Although I did not test
them against the latest and greatest GSR, we ran tests with the M40 heads 
up
against a few older model GSRs. Needless to say, the Juniper is very
impressive. We took a smartbits and started loading up the links up to
OC-48. The M40 handled the load extremely well at wire speed with no packet
loss. The GSR, on the other hand, started dropping packets at about 50% of
that load. Does this mean the performance couldn't be improved on the GSR?
No, not at all. These GSRs were not tuned at all. They were straight out of
the box (so to speak). I think that the bottom line is that we, as
engineers, need to be prepared to work with both products. I like Junos and
love IOS. You will not get fired for recommending either product. I believe
that pricing is competitive for both products as well.

Regards,

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Re: CCIEBootCamp Labs


Don't waste time - buy them today! Nobody else (and I mean NOBODY) has lab 
scenarios that approach the level of complexity of the CCBOOTCAMP labs. Many 
issues don't come up until you build an internetwork that is running lots of 
protocols simultaneously. This is what you will do in the real lab exam (I 
know, I've been there...), and it is also what you will do in the CCBOOTCAMP 
labs.

Trust me, 3:00 on day one of your real lab exam is no time to realize that 
you have never run X and Y and Z together at the same time... the Cisco Doc 
CD will not be able to bail you out at that point.

Dale
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Subject: CCIEBootCamp Labs
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:42:37 -0230

Any current list members using these labs? I am considering purchasing them
and the reviews on their site look good.

Just looking for honest unbiased opinions before I spend my hard earned
dollars!

Patrick


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Re: Trace results - what does this indicate?

Ummm... looks like a loop, eh?

Dale
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Subject: Trace results - what does this indicate?
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 08:47:07 -0400

What would the following trace results indicate (the names and numbers have
been changed to protect the innocent)..?

routertraceroute 147.254.213.1
Tracing the route to 147.254.213.1

1 198.254.100.125 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
2 198.254.114.50 0 msec 0 msec 0 msec
3 198.254.31.97 4 msec 0 msec 0 msec
4 145.49.208.25 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
5 145.49.208.26 0 msec 4 msec 0 msec
6 145.49.208.25 4 msec 4 msec 4 msec
7 145.49.208.26 4 msec 4 msec 8 msec
8 145.49.208.25 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
9 145.49.208.26 8 msec 12 msec 4 msec
10 145.49.208.25 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
11 145.49.208.26 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
12 145.49.208.25 12 msec 20 msec 8 msec
13 145.49.208.26 12 msec 16 msec 12 msec
14 145.49.208.25 16 msec 20 msec 16 msec
15 145.49.208.26 12 msec 12 msec 8 msec
16 145.49.208.25 12 msec 8 msec 12 msec
17 145.49.208.26 8 msec 8 msec 8 msec
18 145.49.208.25 12 msec 12 msec 12 msec
...etc for 30 hops
router
Thanks for any insight...

Rick Watson

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Re: CCIEBootCamp Labs - difficulty


The CCBOOTCAMP labs vary in complexity and build from the first to the last, 
so the first few labs are easier than the real thing, but as you  move on 
they become more and more like the real thing... Some are worse!

Dale
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Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:51:39 -0700

One more questions about bootcamp:
And what is the difficulty level for bootcamp compare to the Lab exam?  is 
it
harder and tricker?



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Re: OT:hat is F2 cable

Several years ago, my sister-in-law had to pay an auto-mechanic a 
significant fee to replace her muffler bearings. I still haven't figured out 
that they are, but I have a theory about it! [=`)

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Subject: OT:hat is F2 cable
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:23:31 -0500

Ok.. I pretty much understand how DSL works but my recent efforts to order
it have been how can I say.. frustrating.  A order that I placed 3 months
ago was cancled because of bad F2 cable.  This is a new term to me.  Do any
of you guys with Telcom/DSL experience know exactly what this cable is and
how does it relate to DSL service?  It would be nice to know if this is a
Telco problem or if it's a service Provider problem.

Thanks,

Keith

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Re: CCIE design


The CCIE Design exam is probably the most difficult written exam that Cisco 
offers... Does that help?

Good Luck! Let us know how you do!

Dale
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Subject: CCIE design
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:16:21 +0100

Hi people,

I have became totally insane and have booked myself on the CCIE design
written exam on the 27th October. Why?  I have no idea.  Anyhow do any of
you have any ideas, tips on what to expect in this exam.  I have of course
downloaded the Cisco exam list and have read most of the books, although
still some areas which need sorting out (Voice and SNA).  Is this exam
written in the same fashion as the CID (if so I think a rope might come in
handy).  Any help / insight would be appreciated.  I am becoming
increasingly more nervous as each day passes.  The thought of the unknown
being the worst thing.

Cheers.

Robert McCallum

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Re: about the LED status

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes


Gary - DON'T tell people what the questions on the exam were... You did 
accept the Non-Disclosure Agreement, right? That means that you can't tell 
people what's on the test.

You can't say: "I just took the test and I got this question that says blah, 
blah, blah... What's the correct answer?"

You CAN say: "I have been studying blah, blah, blah, and I was wondering, 
what is the behaviour of the LED's on catalyst switches?"

Better yet, get some Catalyst switches and connect them as described and 
observe the behaviour of the LED's yourself...

Better luck on the exam next time!

Dale
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Subject: about the LED status
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:10:18 +0800

hi guys:

  i did the BCMSN test today,it is more diffcult than i think.i meet a 
question:
the catalyst 5500 connect catalyst 2924 with UTP line. the LED light will 
be on always
on both side. or catalyst 5k LED light will be off after 20 second. or 
catalyst 2924 LED light will be off after some seconds.

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Re: ethernet is up, line protocol is down

2000-09-26 Thread Dale Holmes


Hmmm... Ping, IP Address - all layer 3 stuff, right? Can't do layer 3 if 
layer 2 is down...

You can do a "no keepalive" on an ethernet interface to bring it up without 
actually pluggin it into anything. Is that what you are trying to do? Try 
that and see if you get the results you are looking for.

Dale
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Subject: ethernet is up, line protocol is down
Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:36:57 GMT

Hi guys - perhaps you can clairify something for me.

According to CIT - this means layer 1 is up, but layer 2 is down
(paraphrase) - what I need to know is the reprecussions of this -

In other words, can I ping this interface ip address from within the 
router?
  Could I do a sh ip route on this ip address and at least try to see it?
Obviously, I can't do it from another router across the interface, but I
thought I'd be able to assign an ip address, ping it internally, and have 
it
ready to go when we get something to plug into it.

Kind of hitting my head against a wall here.  Thanks.

RB
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Re: CCNA WAN Sw


www.sylvan.com

Register for the exam and take it. It's only about $100. For that you will 
get to see what the real exam is like (since it is the real exam), and who 
knows? You may even pass... If not, you will know the kinds of things to 
study and will pass on the next attempt.

All that you really need to know is in the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start book.

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Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:10:35 +0100

Anybody have a good source of Exam Questions for CCNA WAN Sw #640-410 Exam?

Karl

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Re: CCNA WAN Sw


Sorry, I didn't mean to sound like I was discouraging you... just the 
opposite - Go For it, man!!!

I have to tell you Karl, I have found that for some of these Cisco tests, 
just taking the darn thing is the best way to get the info... I took the Wan 
Sw exam when it was beta (failed it), without any preparation because I had 
no idea what sort of stuff would be on it. As it turned out, all that I 
needed to know was available free from Cisco's web site. It's also available 
in a better organized form on the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start book.

I missed the damn thing by less than 5 points, which is very frustrating, 
but I am glad that I have seen the test. Once I finish reading the Quick 
Start I will go back and retake it and I know that I will pass this time...

The same thing happened to me with the CCIE written, except that I passed 
that one! Then I had to take the lab (Oh no!)... Failed the lab last April, 
going back in January.

There's no shame in failing a Sylvan test - especially if you only took it 
as an eye opener! Nobody bothers to make practice tests for this one, 'cause 
there is such a limited market for them...

Anyway, good luck on the test whenever you decide to take it!

Dale
[=`)

From: "hal9001" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Dale Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: CCNA WAN Sw
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:57:14 +0100

Well thank you for sharing that thought Dale, I just guessed that I 
wouldn't
waste Sylvans time on failing like the miserable little twerp I am and I'd
sort of learn to walk before I could run.  'I'll just pop back under my
stone then!

Can I recommend you to a friend (if only I can find one)!

Have a better one!

Karl
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From: "Dale Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 25, 2000 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: CCNA WAN Sw


  www.sylvan.com
 
  Register for the exam and take it. It's only about $100. For that you 
will
  get to see what the real exam is like (since it is the real exam), and 
who
  knows? You may even pass... If not, you will know the kinds of things to
  study and will pass on the next attempt.
 
  All that you really need to know is in the Cisco Press WAN Quick Start
book.
 
  Dale
  [=`)
 
 
  From: "hal9001" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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  Subject: CCNA WAN Sw
  Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 18:10:35 +0100
  
  Anybody have a good source of Exam Questions for CCNA WAN Sw #640-410
Exam?
  
  Karl
  
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Re: CCDA logos, t-shirt, certification, card?


All of the above, plus an endless supply of the local currency, lifetime 
supply of your favorite beer, and infinite appeal to the opposite sex. Oh 
yeah, and a secret decoder ring!

Seriously, I think that they are out of the t-shirts. You'll get (after 
several weeks) a kit in the mail with a handsome certificate suitable for 
framing. Not included in the kit are a new found sense of pride and enhanced 
self-esteem...

Dale
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So once one passes the CCDA, what does one get? t-shirt? certificate? card?

--
Khanh

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Re: (no subject, your questions...)

1. No. Get the fixed Hyperterminal from www.hilgraeve.com or use something 
else, like TeraTerm.

2. www.cisco.com, documentation section...

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I have two questions for the Group

Does  the Hyper Term on NT 4 work, sending break signal to a router to 
recover a Pasword?
On one of the 6000 I just got I am getting the message "Power to module in 
slot 1 was powered off by admin??
how do I fix that
Write me back a this address
thank
Guys and Gals

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RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes


CCBOOTCAMP currently has 17 labs available. You can do them on your own 
equipment, or you can rent time on theirs. If you are serious about 
preparing for the lab, you MUST shell out the couple hundred bucks for these 
labs.

No BS. Don't waste time, don't whine about the money. Nobody else has labs 
that reach this level of complexity - NOBODY! Hutnick and Saterlee's book 
(All-in-one) won't get you there. Mentorlabs VLabs won't get you there. 
FatKid? C'mon...

Having seen all the labs available from all these places, and having taken 
the real thing, I can say that you gotta have the CCBOOTCAMP  labs, or you 
ain't gonna be ready.

No - I don't have any affiliation with them, I just work with a study group 
that has purchased the material. You'll need additional stuff, not just 
these labs, but if you are gonna try to get practice labs to get hands on 
skills, CCBOOTCAMP has the only labs worth a damn when it comes to the real 
thing.

As for additional stuff:

Doyle - Routing TCP/IP
Caslow - Routing  Switching for CCIE's
Halabi - Internet Routing Architectures
Cisco Press Case Studies book
Cisco Doc CD




From: Eitland Brett Contr USAFE IN/SAIC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: RE: Why people prefer ccbootcamp.com??
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 10:58:33 +0200

Does anyone know of a website that provide lab scenarios free of charge
(except FatKid.com) for those
individuals that already have all the lab equipment needed?

FatKid is an excellent resource, but I would like to find other sites that
may offer
scenarios which they do not yet provide

Thanks,

Brett


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I'm trying to sign up for lab access,

I check out 3 sites for this, nantech.com, fatkid.com, and ccbootcamp.com
It seems like ccbootcamp is most popular since they are almost fully booked
Why are they so popular?  Is there special reason why? equipment wise, do
they do more service? why?  Which one would you choose?  Given the fact 
that
I can spend about $300 per day?

Need advice from experts :)

Thanks,
Sean

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Re: Thanks--2 routers and a hub.

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes


All that trouble for a $40 hub... Ain't networking great?!?!?!?

Glad I could help!

Dale
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Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 07:11:40 GMT

Thanks to everyone for the help--I think it was the hub as I bought a new
hub and used it and everything worked immediately. I did like the
methodology suggested to find the problem (dale's was especially good)

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RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password

2000-09-21 Thread Dale Holmes

You should then immediately issue a "no ip http server" to disable the web 
interface and never use it again. It is a security vulnerability that you 
should never leave open...

From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: "'Ray Mosely'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 09:20:41 -0500

Try the following:

Switch(config)#ip http server
Switch(config)#ip http authentication enable

This tells the switch to use the enable password for web access too.

OR

Switch(config)#ip http server
Switch(config)#ip http authentication local
Switch(config)#username ray password mosely

This tells the switch to use the local user database for access, plus it
will add you to it.

As for books, I am currently reading the BCMSN book by Karen Webb which is 
a
little too technical sometimes. I also just bought the CCIE LAN Switching
book which is a heavy thing, but after having flipped some pages I think it
looks pretty good. There are many good reviews about it. Also, many people
think that the Exam Cram book is good too - but I haven't seen it.

Hth,

Ole

  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2000 8:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Catalyst 2900XL Web Management password

I've got a 2900XL that my predecessor set up.
I went through the Cisco routine for recovering
from lost passwords, and have good console and
telnet access to the CLI.

But I can't get into the Web interface.  It asks
for a username and password.

Two questions:
1.  how can I change the web interface username
   and password from the CLI?
2.  any primers or tutorials on Catalyst switches
   than anyone can recommend?  Quick and dirty,
   and on the Web, just until I can get some
   books ordered.

Thanks,
Ray Mosely, CCNA

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RE: copy config answer who is John Galt

That's correct... He is that putz from that idiotic book by the moron Ayn 
Rand...

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Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2000 11:13:20 -0700

Gee. Last I checked, John Galt was a ficticious person in Ayn Rand's "Atlas
Shrugged". Very popular with Libertarians.
http://globalfreedom.com/jg_index.html

Karen E Young
ELF Technologies, Inc
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 nobody@groups
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 09/19/2000
 06:11 AM
 Please
 respond to
 "Stull, Cory"

I'll bite..   John Galt is that guy who shot that guy?   Never mind.. He
only has two names so he can't be an assassin.  Is he a former president?

smirk

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I prefer to memorize the entire config and then type it in to the second
router from memory - but that's just me. grin

LAB

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Re: Connect two cisco with transceivers


Make sure that the cables are "straight-through" and not crossover or 
rollover cables. They should probably be at least 3 feet long, but I don't 
think that is the problem here... You did do a "no shut" on the interfaces 
right?

Dale
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Subject: Connect two cisco with transceivers
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:57:24 GMT

I am trying to connect two cisco 2501's together using rj45 cables and a 
hub
and transceivers in the AUI slots. Will this work, and if so what might I 
be
doing wrong as they certainly will not telnet or ping each other. I have 
set
ip's on both E/O interfaces and both trannsceivers show a link. Setup looks
like this

router1 E/0transceiver--cable--hub--cable--tranceiver--E/0 router2

both the cables are only 15 inches long and someone mentioned that maybe
they need to be longer. Should I be using some other kind of cable?

thanks for any help

stuart
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Re:


Off the top of my head:

1. Are the cables both straight-through?
2. Are both Ethernet interfaces on the same subnet (ie 10.10.10.1/24 and 
10.10.10.2/24)?
3. Are both Ethernet Interfaces up?
4. What does "show int e0" tell you?
5. What does "show cdp neighbor" tell you?
6. Put a PC on the hub. Make it 10.10.10.3/24. Can it ping either router? 
Both?
7. Are the AUI transceivers both good?
8. Are all the hub ports good?
9. Are the ethernet interfaces on the routers both good?

Hope this helps...
Dale
[=`)

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Subject: Re:
Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 15:26:11 GMT

I would agree if the connection was DCE/DTE cable but with a hub  and 2
transceivers it should not need clocking it is just a telnet connection or
ping etc--I have only seen serial ports use clocking and this is the E/0
port. Everything is on the same subnet though. It is not my pc which I want
to connect with rather I want a telnet from router1 to router2.

stuart


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Hi, stuart,

I think the best advice is to go and get a CCNA, book. Falling that you'll
need another router to be the DCE (which will act as your clocking 
device).

However if each router is connected to a Hub then I would assume the the
default gateway on your node PC has not been configured to reach the e0
interface of either router

Your routers themselve will not be able to communicate with each other
without a DCE Device

Good Luck

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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2000 2:57 PM
Subject: Connect two cisco with transceivers


  I am trying to connect two cisco 2501's together using rj45 cables and 
a
hub
  and transceivers in the AUI slots. Will this work, and if so what might
I be
  doing wrong as they certainly will not telnet or ping each other. I 
have
set
  ip's on both E/O interfaces and both trannsceivers show a link. Setup
looks
  like this
 
  router1 E/0transceiver--cable--hub--cable--tranceiver--E/0 router2
 
  both the cables are only 15 inches long and someone mentioned that 
maybe
  they need to be longer. Should I be using some other kind of cable?
 
  thanks for any help
 
  stuart


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RE: Interview questions


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'll bite.

#1  not sure, but I would say DLCI 1023 is reserved for LMI
#2  VTP (Virtual Trunk Protocol) is the proprietary protocol on the Cat's

See, I was thinking ISL... could be a number of answers.

#3  Framing, Line Coding, Clocking, and channels (or timeslots)


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Re: Route Print


In what way does the router pass the route to your PC. Your PC should send 
the packet to the router, then the router would in turn send to the next hop 
as defined in the static route entry. The PC should only need to know how to 
get to the router...

Have your configured the 7206 as the default gateway on the PC?


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Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2000 13:00:59 -0500


Guys,
I have a problem:
I have a 7206 with static routes and when I try to access a remote network 
the 7206 will not pass back the route the traffic should take.  But when I 
connect a 2501 with static routes, the 2501 will pass the routes back to 
the PC.  I'm lost and in of help

Rodney Jackson
817 7843072

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RE: Another interview question


I would have replied:

"Sure I can, can't you???"

Dale
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Can you priortize traffic on a Frame relay network?

Spencer Plantier
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RE: Would you back-burner your CCIE training for...

2000-09-14 Thread Dale Holmes


I work for an SBC affilliate, so I can only hope that the upper
management from SBC have finally taken the red pill.

The arrival of the spaceships has been delayed, do not eat the pudding. 
REPEAT - DO NOT EAT THE PUDDING!


My question to all is, would you back burner your CCIE training for a 
 while for a chance of the options which you'll know the value of in a 
 short amount of time, or would you rather pass because CCIE is a must, 
 ASAP?


What are you, nuts?!?! Options are TOTALLY WORTHLESS, unless you can vest in 
them fully within the first year. Internet startup??? I don't care who the 
management is or who the VC is, they are going under before you vest. If 
they are not totally gone, the stock price will certainly plummet, and there 
goes the value of your options... The stock will most likely climb rapidly 
in the first year, and that is where you will earn your money. By the time 
you vest (usually 4 or 5 years), those options won't be worth the paper that 
the offer was printed on.

Don't think so? Look at Netscape, ToySmart, and countless others...

F**k options. You want to motivate me? Pay for my CCIE cert - books, 
classes, practice labs, exams... When I pass, kick my salary in the ass... 
that's something I can count on.

Dale
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RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes

Was that YOU Sorry man...

From: Fuzz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Fuzz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: JEROME OKOLO [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: The H1-B visa program is a fraud.
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 20:32:04 -0500 (CDT)

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, JEROME OKOLO wrote:

  shortage of qualified citizens. Get over it guys and realize that what 
gets
  you a job is your intelligence and your skills, not some accident of 
birth.

Not true!  I myself was beaten half to death by a horde of
foaming-at-the-mouth Indian engineers as I was waiting patiently and
expectantly in the lobby of my future employer to begin what was to be the
most important job interview of my tender young life.  Needless to say, my
badly bruised, bloody and inappropriately unconscious body failed to
impress the discriminating tastes of the hiring manager.  However I did
wake up to discover pinned to the blood-encrusted collar of my finest
whitest interview shirt a job offer to work at their help desk.

:Fuzz

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Re: Personal Excellence Renders No Immunity To H1-B

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes


I would like to get $60 hour contract for my services.

I'd like to have supermodels feed me fruit every morning...

I'm as good as they are, but I'm not willing to live like they live. If 
they weren't here, I could ask whatever I wanted for my services.

Tough...

It is just simple Econ 101.

You said it... What do companies do when their markets get flooded? They 
change markets... What do they do when all markets get flooded? They change 
products!

Diversify... Get Mobile...

My Dad used to say when I was a kid "If you want the dollar, you gotta chase 
the dollar - it won't just come to you!"

Dale
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Re: vlans and subnets

2000-09-12 Thread Dale Holmes

Yeah, but you need on hell of a long Ethernet cable to get from LA to NY...

From: "Frank Wells" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: vlans and subnets
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 12:22:00 PDT

Vlans are touted becuase they give the network admin the ability to join
geographically dispersed hosts.  The beauty of Vlans for example, is being
able to add hostA from NY with HostB from LA and HostC from Chicago to the
same broadcast domain is it not?  Based upon this scenario alone it is very
likely that a single network would not span that distance using addressing
that falls on the same subnet, therefore it is quite likely that a vlan
could/would consist of hosts from different subnets, and a subnet would not
necessarily have its own Vlan...

From: John Neiberger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2000 07:18:32 -0700 (PDT)

Yes, sort of.  You are correct that a router would be needed to
communicate,
but your definition of the problem is incorrect.  If they are in different
subnets, you should not be placing them in the same VLAN.  By definition, 
a
VLAN is a separate subnet.  In a switched environment, each subnet will
have
its own VLAN and then a router would be used to route between 
VLAN/subnets.

   Hello everyone, a simple question:

   Assume that you have two PC's that belong to different subnets and you
   connect them to a 2924 and assign them to the same vlan.If the first 
PC
   pings the second one, because of the fact that they belong to a
   different subnet there has to be somewhere a router in order for the
   packet to go from one subnet to the other despite of the fact that 
they
   belong to the same vlan, correct?
   Thanks for your time

   alexs

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Re: Network Usage policy

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes


What you need is an Acceptable Use Policy Statement. Here is a link with 
many examples...

http://www.avana.net/~jtruitt/ferret/auplinks.html

You might also consider developing an information security policy that 
specifically states the things that are absolutely forbidden (port scanning, 
mp3's or other huge bandwidth hogs, adult material, ethnic slander, etc. 
Some of the examples at the above link have this information contained 
within the Acceptable use statement, but others have seperated them. One 
reason to do so is that the Acceptable Use policy statement usually is owned 
(and enforced) by Human Resources, while the Information Security policy is 
owned by IS. The Acceptable Use policy points to the IS policy, allowing HR 
to enforce what you put in your policy statement, but you retain full 
control over the contents of the IS policy and can amend it as you see fit.

I hope this helps (I just finished one for a client of mine).

Dale
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Subject: Network Usage policy
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 06:31:01 -0700

Hello everyone,

I need to define a network usage policy at work and need your input.

We had someone use a port scanner here a few weeks ago and the same person
just did some large FTP download and upload during the weekend. (he is
either being fire or we are locking down his user profile.)
My boss want me to have a policy spell out to all the staff to what is
acceptable.  I am just starting off and would welcome any ideas.  I will
post what I put together once it is done.

Thanks
Albert

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Re: auto-negotiate not reliable

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes


Different vendors implement auto-negotiate in different ways, and sometimes 
those ways are at odds... There is no way to tell whether the firmware in a 
given vendor's NIC is going to respond and react as Cisco expects it too in 
an autonegotiation process. As a general rule of thumb, regardless of 
vendor, when it really matters - explicitly set it... don't do 
auto-negotiation.

Dale
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Subject: auto-negotiate not reliable
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 11:54:41 -0400

Can someone explain to me why auto-negotiate on a Catalyst 5500 and a
NIC is not always reliable.

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Re: Ip helper address

2000-09-11 Thread Dale Holmes


Perhaps I should be more clear about this and say that this is the behaviour 
of MICROSOFT DHCP clients. Here is the info from the Windows NT Resource 
kit:

"Note:   The client accepts the first offer it receives, regardless of 
whether the offer came from a DHCP server on the local subnet or from a DHCP 
server on a different subnet. ... In the case where the DHCP server is 
unavailable or there is no available IP addressing information to lease to a 
client computer, the client is unable to bind to TCP/IP."

An MS DHCP client may receive many DHCPOFFER's for its DHCPDISCOVER 
broadcast. It will accept the first offer it receives (actually, the first 
response it gets), and NACK all others. If the first response it gets is 
negative, it will settle for that, and NACK anything from the other servers. 
I have seen this (and sniffer traced it) in production. MS was unwilling to 
call it a bug, and said the behaviour was by design and was RFC compliant. 
Case was closed...

This was NT 4.0 Service pack 4 with Win98 clients. I dunno if they have 
changed things since, but I doubt it.

Dale
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From: "Donald B Johnson Jr" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Dale Holmes" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Ip helper address
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2000 12:36:49 -0700

I don't understand this, wouldn't the client accept the second offer by
sending the seconds servers siaddr in the request packet. also DHCP 
standard
says that nowhere must a client accept the first offer and then stop
broadcasting. All servers will answer the clients DHCPDISCOVER broadcast
with any help it can or can not offer. The first server does not tell the
second server to shutup so as soon as the (second or 1nanosecond slower
server) receives the broadcast it will it will send a DHCPOFFER packet and
the client will reply with an DHCPREQUEST packet to the second server
(using the siaddr field) that will be ack'd by the second server with an
DHCPACK packet. This is all made quite clear in RFC 1541. So you can have
two DHCP servers on the same segment you just don't know which one will
serve the address to the client but both will try independent of each other
and the client will ot stop trying after receiving after a nack from a
server.
Duck
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Subject: Re: Ip helper address


 
  You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a 
good
  idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
  The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that 
it
  gets.
 
  If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are 
on
  one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of 
your
  clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one
  server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all
clients
  will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of
  addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start 
accepting
  those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the 
other
  DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.
 
  SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 
will
  allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet,
  HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which 
they
  receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the
  time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...
 
  You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is
  sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a
  less than efficient use of your address space.
 
  I hope that this helps...
 
  Dale
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  From: "Dennis Bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Dennis Bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Ip helper address
  Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500
  
  I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the 
clients
to
  obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip 
helper-address
  command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
  servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from 
the
  remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  
I
  have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not
seem
  to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i 
have
  to
  use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip
  helper-address
  10.10.10.0 ?
  
  
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Re: Ip helper address



You have 2 DHCP servers on the same subnet??? This is probably not a good 
idea... it does not really provide redundancy or load balancing.
The DHCP client will issue a request and accept the first response that it 
gets.

If you split your scope such that half of your available addresses are on 
one server and half are on the other, you will *NOT* see that half of your 
clients use one server while half use the other. If for some reason one 
server always replies a nanosecond earlier than the other, then all clients 
will accept the response from that server. Once that server is out of 
addresses, it will start sending nack's. The clients will start accepting 
those nack's and will not request an address again, even though the other 
DHCP server may have dozens of free addresses to offer.

SO - in answer to your question, the ip helper address of 10.10.10.0 will 
allow your client's requests to reach all DHCP servers on that subnet, 
HOWEVER they will only accept leases from the first server from which they 
receive a response. Chances are that server will be the same one all the 
time, even after it runs out of addresses to offer...

You *could* set up your DHCP servers such that the scope on EACH ONE is 
sufficient to offer leases to ALL of you clients, but that is probably a 
less than efficient use of your address space.

I hope that this helps...

Dale
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From: "Dennis Bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Dennis Bates" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Ip helper address
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 08:10:44 -0500

I am trying to put a statement on the remote router to allow the clients to
obtain an IP address accross the WAN.  I have used the ip helper-address
command successfully.  My problem is that i would like any of the DHCP
servers at the central site to be able to service DHCP requests from the
remote site.  Do I have to use mutilple ip helper-address statements ?  I
have tried  a helper address pointing to the subnet, but that does not seem
to work. EX. i have DHCP servers at 10.10.10.10 and 10.10.10.11 do i have 
to
use two seperate ip helper address statements or can i use ip 
helper-address
10.10.10.0 ?


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RE: 802.1Q or ISL


Yes, it's true, .1Q adds 4 bytes. The TPID and TCI fields look like this:

Tag Protocol Identifier (TPID) 2 bytes
 - fixed value of 0x8100 16 bits
Tag Control Information (TCI)  2 bytes
 - User Prioroty 3 bits
 - Canonical FFormat Indicator (CFI) 1 bit
 - VLAN Identifier   12 bits


An Ethernet frame of maximum size (1518 bytes) that gets tagged with .1Q 
VLAN info is now 4 bytes too big (1522 bytes). This frame is called a "baby 
giant". Switches can handle the frame correctly, but it may also generate an 
error statistic. This might not be a big deal unless you have lots of them 
and you have certain alarm thresholds set in your management system...

One other thing - ISL will only encapsulate frames that exit the switch on a 
trunk port, while .1Q tags get added to all frames (as I recall... somebody 
might want to check me on this).

Dale
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From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Tom Walstrom'" [EMAIL PROTECTED],Ole Drews Jensen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:40:46 -0500

Thanks for your reply Tom,

However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the 
frame
size by adding 4 bytes into it.

Take care,

Ole


  Ole Drews Jensen
  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL


Ole,

ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
(hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet 
frame
to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
identification information.

I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also ISL
allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely to
make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
illuminate this issue.

Regards,

Tom

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From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: 802.1Q or ISL


Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the end
of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That has
brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some feedback
on this subject.

I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
scenario.

The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
link : ISL or 802.1Q???

The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
bytes to each frame.

The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply 
encapsulates
it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.

Any comments on this?

Thanks,

Ole

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Retiring my number (was: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide)


PS - in reply to Chris Hagen - the recert process involves only a written 
exam, you don't have to take the lab again... It's true about the 
discounts... there is much motivation on the part of Cisco partners to keep 
CCIE's current and on staff.

What I wanna know is, when a CCIE retires, do they retire his number too 
(like with sports heroes)???


From: "Miller, Nathan (AZ15)" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: Dick Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:29:48 -0700

I have heard that Cisco significantly discounts the proice of support
contracts to companies with current CCIEs.  If this is true it is one 
reason
why keeping the cert current increases marketability.
Nathan Miller

-Original Message-
From: Dick Silva [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 6:21 PM
To: Chris Hagen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide


/
Another question is...Has an employer ever asked "is your CCIE current"?
\
-Original Message-
From: Chris Hagen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, September 07, 2000 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide


 Well, if it costs $1,000 to take the lab again, which involves hours and
 hours of studying, and you go to a client and say, I'm CCIE  and I 
let
 my certifications lapse, but here's what I've been doing for the past X
 number of years
 
  Do you really need those 4 letters anymore with most companies with that
 level of experience? I mean, if it is out of date, it hasn't really been
 long enough to be REALLY out of date...
 
 *plink plink*
 
 -Chris
 
 
 "andy lennon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message 
8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8p93pj$1ii$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
  Bollocks.
  By definition a CCIE is the best when it comes to real world 
experience.
 
 
  "Robert Padjen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
   Might it also mean that people are finding that the
   certification is not as important in this market and
   that the 'lower' level certifications, along with
   'real' world experience, provide a greater benefit to
   corporations and providers?
  
  
   --- "Healis, Jim" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This could be due to people not passing
re-certification exams, failing to
schedule the re-cert exam in time, death, or even
worse Breaking Cisco's
NDA!!
   
Jim Healis, CCDP, CCNP
Senior Network Administrator
Virata
   
   
 -Original Message-
From: Daniel Ji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:47 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Decreasing # of CCIE's Worlwide
   
I guess that's good news for all of us who are
trying damn hard to be a
CCIE. After all, the less # worldwide, the more
value this cert will have.
it's all just simple "supply vs demand".
   
Good luck to all!
   
Daniel
Lab in Dec
   
""andy lennon"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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 First time i've seen the number of CCIE's go
down...


   
  
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/625/ccie/ccie_program/ccie_present.html

 Andy Lennon

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RE: 802.1Q or ISL


But I think it's more like:

A: Pull a big trash bag over their head
B: Stuff a lunch bad in their shirt pocket

and then after either case, weigh them (CRC).

Again, you might want to consider how often you will do each thing. You may 
only need to pull bags over the heads of 250 people going out the front 
door, and ignore the other 750 people who are going into different rooms of 
the house - as opposed to stuffing lunch bags in the pockets of all 1000 
regardless of where they are going...

Dale
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From: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: Ole Drews Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 10:05:41 -0500

I hate martini Howard.

Anyway, I believe I mean the latency in the switch.

It's kind of, what would be the fastest thing to do:

A) Put a large overcoat on and button 30 buttons.

   or

B) Take your coat off, put a vest on with 4 buttons, and put the coat back
on - (no buttons on the coat).

Now consider a line of 1000 guests waiting for you to do A or B on them.
What method would be the fastest to get these people out the door so you
could go to bed?

Have a great weekend,

Ole

~~
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  Systems Network Manager
  CCNA, MCSE, MCP+I
  RWR Enterprises, Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Howard C. Berkowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 9:34 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL


 Thanks for your reply Tom,
 
 However, according to the book I'm reading, the 802.1Q DOES change the
frame
 size by adding 4 bytes into it.
 
 Take care,
 
 Ole

  From the horse's mouth, 802.1Q:


9.1 Overview
Tagging a frame requires:
a) The addition of a Tag Header to the frame. This header is inserted
immediately following the Desti-nation
MAC address and Source MAC address (and Routing, if present) fields
of the frame to be
transmitted;


To return to your original question, Ole, when you speak of
optimizing resource use, what do you consider the scarce resource?
Other than in the martini-soaked brain (if I may use the term) of an
overly zealous salesdroid, you can't optimize for everything at once.
Save me from "specialists in all cars, foreign and domestic."

Some optimizations could include:

 Bandwidth overhead
   Frame length
   Overhead frames (BPDU, for example)
 Latency in the switch
   Input serialization
   Processing
   Internal forwarding
   Output serialization
 Ease of use
 Interoperability

Which do you want to optimize?
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Tom Walstrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, September 08, 2000 6:30 AM
 To: Ole Drews Jensen; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: 802.1Q or ISL
 
 
 Ole,
 
 ISL encapsulates the frame adding, as you said, a 26 byte header and a 4
 byte CRC trailer.  802.1Q frame-tagging does not change the frame size
 (hence its interoperability, because it appears as a standard ethernet
frame
 to non-802.1Q devices), but does modify the existing frame with VLAN
 identification information.
 
 I would suspect that the real reason to deploy ISL is that it runs one
 spanning tree per vlan where 802.1Q runs only one spanning tree.  Also 
ISL
 allows bonding into etherchannels.  Seems like this would be more likely 
to
 make a difference on the network.  I would think you would only do 802.1Q
 where interoperability was the issue, like with a Catalyst 4000 which I
 believe only supports 802.1Q.  Maybe some switch guru could further
 illuminate this issue.
 
 Regards,
 
 Tom
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Ole Drews Jensen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2000 1:38 PM
 
 Just a thought. - Digging through another book towards the light at the 
end
 of the tunnel, I have now added VLAN Trunc Links to my knowledge. That 
has
 brought this question up in my mind, so I would like to hear some 
feedback
 on this subject.
 
 I know that much of this depends on the average frame sizes, so lets say
 that I have analyzed my network, and the average frame size is 800. Lets
 also say that we are only dealing with Cisco Catalyst switches in this
 scenario.
 
 The question is, what would be least resource-waste to use as a trunking
 link : ISL or 802.1Q???
 
 The 802.1Q has to break the frame open to modify it, but it adds only 4
 bytes to each frame.
 
 The ISL does not have to break the frame open because it simply
encapsulates
 it into a new one, but it adds 30 bytes to each frame.
 
 Any comments on this?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Ole

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Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination !!!!!!!!


Daniel - since you just started your own consulting firm, become a Cisco 
reseller. Once you get a few entry level certs (CCNA, CCDA, Sales Expert), 
you will find that Cisco will be very accomodating in terms of resources and 
practice labs, etc. They offer a lot of stuff to their partners to help them 
get certified. Right now they have a promotion where partners can take 
certification classes at $500 instead of the usual $1200 - $1800... There is 
even a special 2 for 1 deal (2 classes for $500).

Cisco has a program called ASET (Advanced System Engineer Training) which 
you can take in San Jose. It looks and feels just like the actual lab exam, 
except that there is a CCIE there to help you, and you can talk amongst the 
others there to find solutiuons to the problems you encounter...

Become a Cisco partner - it is worth the effort...

Dale
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From: "Daniel Boutet" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Daniel Boutet" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Drive, Motivation and Determination 
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 07:50:06 -0600

I totally agree with you Terrence. I do not have the opportunity to work
with Cisco Products except AccessPro cards (2).
I also just started my own consulting firm, so it is not easy to be able to
buy the right equipment to paractice on. (NO $ available right now)

I have other certs CNE (3,4,5), MCSE, A+ where I get to practice my skills
everyday.
I also have CCA but do not get to work on Citrix anymore. Not a lot of 
firms
know about this product Citrix doesn't even have a demo version for labs.
All they provide is a virtual demo room in FLA.

There is also a time factor. I dedicate my time to working and trying to
build a customer base. The time that I can spend in my lab is minimal.
When you decide to study certification like Cisco it would be nice that
Cisco would let us use their lab. After all we are supporting their
products.
Wouldn't it make sense for them to want certified people that at least saw
their products (inside and out) and have minimal hands on?

When I first started this certification I phone my local Cisco office and
asked them if they had a lab I could use. I was turned away as if I was
crazy.
How is a person suppose to get real hands on in Edmonton Alberta? After I
get more knowledge (books) I will try to give my time freely to get 
some
experience.

Just my two cents.




""Terrence Garrison"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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  lets face it. Any Certification that has no lab
  can be obtained by an average person with ENOUGH
  study. The CCIE can be passed if one has access to
  the right equipment. There is NEVER a need to take
  a class or have real experience. . .unless of course
  you actually want to be good at your job. Having said
  that, merely obtaining a cert like the CCNP or MCSE or
  CCNA is of some value depending on the depth of the
  job one needs to perform and the ability of an individual
  to translate theory into practice. Some people can do
  this better than others, but it depends on the individual
  and have much drive, motivation and determination one
  has. In the end, it is drive, motivation and determination
  that makes anyone good at whatever it is they do. . .Cert
  or not, degree or not, smart or average.
 
 
  From: "Rishard Chapoteau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Reply-To: "Rishard Chapoteau" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: Anyone achieve their CCIE through self study not from 
work!
  Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2000 16:02:35 -0400
  
  So your telling us you got your CCNP with no experience at all?  I
  seriously
  hope not.
  
  Rishard
  
  
  ""Wind"" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message
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Hiya;
   
Now I finished my CCNP.   I should go for the CCIE,
  otherwise
  my
ccnp status is just a paperwork.
I just wondering does CCIE can be earned through self study, not 
from
working with system integrator?
   
Thanks
Vincent
   
   
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Re: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!



Go here...

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/474/index.shtml

Dale
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From: Ashfaq Aslam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Switch 2901 Password Recovery - Pls help !!
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2000 00:32:26 +0100

Hi,

I have lost my password for Cisco 2901 Switch.  Can someone please tell
me how to do a password recovery for Cisco 2901 Swich?

Thanks for your help !!!

Rgds,
Ash

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