the 642 exams and CCNA re-cert [7:74892]

2003-09-05 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>From what I have read, any exam with a 642 prefix renews your CCNA.Can
anyone validate that?
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CCNA two step--exam reviews [7:74465]

2003-08-29 Thread Andy Barkl
Are you preparing to take the new CCNA exams 640-821 (INTRO) and
640-811(ICND)? I offer my exam reviews to help you along the way.

http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=79
http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=80

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Re: Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review [7:73950]

2003-08-14 Thread Simon Watson
Good Review

However one correction, you've mentioned that EIGRP is a link state routing
protocol, when it is a "hybrid" distance vector protocol.

Take Care

Simon.
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>
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RE: Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review [7:73950]

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Barkl
A correction will be made to the article.

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well.. I glanced over it and I noticed that you say that EIGRP is a
link
state routing protocol...

CCO says that EIGRP is "an enhanced distance vector protocol"

I hope potential students learn the "Cisco" definition for the exam!

Kevin Wigle

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> Here is my Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review;
> http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=77
>
> I hope it helps you with your studies.
> Good luck!




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RE: Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review [7:73950]

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Barkl
I guess I'm not perfect in every way. :)

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To: Andy Barkl; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Good Review

However one correction, you've mentioned that EIGRP is a link state
routing
protocol, when it is a "hybrid" distance vector protocol.

Take Care

Simon.
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> Here is my Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review;
> http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=77
>
> I hope it helps you with your studies.
> Good luck!




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Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review [7:73950]

2003-08-14 Thread Andy Barkl
Here is my Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review;
http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=77

I hope it helps you with your studies.
Good luck!




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Re: Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review [7:73950]

2003-08-14 Thread Kevin Wigle
well.. I glanced over it and I noticed that you say that EIGRP is a link
state routing protocol...

CCO says that EIGRP is "an enhanced distance vector protocol"

I hope potential students learn the "Cisco" definition for the exam!

Kevin Wigle

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> Here is my Cisco CCNA 640-801 exam review;
> http://www.tcpmag.com/Exams/article.asp?EditorialsID=77
>
> I hope it helps you with your studies.
> Good luck!
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(Cisco's Answer)RE: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-14 Thread grant franklin
Hi, Kevin Wigle and Mwalie W

Thanks for your answer, you are very kindly and helpful and your answer is
all correct. To get CCNP certification, a valid (not expired) CCNA
certification is required. So it means that I need to spend another US$125
to take the CCNA exam, although the exam itself is easy.  I plan to take the
CCNA exam this Friday, and then I am a VALID CCNP. :-) After finish that, I
can do my best to prepare the CCIE written exam.

I think we are "net friends", I'm glad to help you when you need.

Best Regards,

Grant

The following is the answer from Cisco.

Cisco's Answer--
Dear Qing:

Yes, you will need to take the CCNA exam. To achieve the Cisco Certified
Network Professional (CCNP) certification you have a valid CCNA certification.

On June 24, 2003 Cisco Systems, Inc. announced three enhancements to the
CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Associate) program. The enhancements include a
new two-step exam path for new candidates entering the networking field,
revisions to the existing CCNA exam and the option for candidates to
recertify their CCNA certification by passing the ICND 640-811 exam.

Candidates have two options to obtain their CCNA certification:
1. Passing the CCNA 640-607 (Last day to register September 30, 2003) or
CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003)
2. Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821) and ICND
640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003)

Cisco has developed several recommended courses that are only available
through a Cisco Certified Learning Partner. Use the Learning Locator to
locate the next available course in your area. Contact the Learning Partner
directly for course availability, registration information and cost.

For additional information about the CCNA certification please visit
http://www.cisco.com/go/ccna.

If you have any further questions, click on the hyperlink above to update,
review or generate a support request.

Be sure to bookmark the www.cisco.com/go/certsupport site for all of your
future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquiries.

Best regards,

Certifications & Training Team

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> 
> Hi,all
> 
> I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take
> recertification exam yet. If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do
> I need to recertificate my CCNA in order to get the CCNP
> certification?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Grant




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(Cisco's Answer)RE: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-14 Thread grant franklin
Thanks for the answer of Kevin Wigle and Mwalie W, they are all correct. To
get CCNP certification, a valid (not expired) CCNA certification is
required. So it means that I need cost another $125 to take the CCNA exam,
although the exam itself is easy. :-)

The following is the answer from Cisco, it may be useful you.

Thanks all, let's make this forum better.

Grant

Cisco's Answer--
Dear Qing:

Yes, you will need to take the CCNA exam. To achieve the Cisco Certified
Network Professional (CCNP) certification you have a valid CCNA certification.

On June 24, 2003 Cisco Systems, Inc. announced three enhancements to the
CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Associate) program. The enhancements include a
new two-step exam path for new candidates entering the networking field,
revisions to the existing CCNA exam and the option for candidates to
recertify their CCNA certification by passing the ICND 640-811 exam.

Candidates have two options to obtain their CCNA certification:
1. Passing the CCNA 640-607 (Last day to register September 30, 2003) or
CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003)
2. Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821) and ICND
640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003)

Cisco has developed several recommended courses that are only available
through a Cisco Certified Learning Partner. Use the Learning Locator to
locate the next available course in your area. Contact the Learning Partner
directly for course availability, registration information and cost.

For additional information about the CCNA certification please visit
http://www.cisco.com/go/ccna.

If you have any further questions, click on the hyperlink above to update,
review or generate a support request.

Be sure to bookmark the www.cisco.com/go/certsupport site for all of your
future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquiries.

Best regards,

Certifications & Training Team

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grant franklin wrote:
> 
> Hi,all
> 
> I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take
> recertification exam yet. If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do
> I need to recertificate my CCNA in order to get the CCNP
> certification?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Grant




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(Cisco's Answer)RE: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-14 Thread grant franklin
Thanks for the answer of Kevin Wigle and Mwalie W, they are all correct. To
get CCNP certification, a valid (not expired) CCNA certification is
required. So it means that I need cost another $125 to take the CCNA exam,
although the exam itself is easy. :-)

The following is the answer from Cisco, it may be useful you.

Thanks all, let's make this forum better.

Grant

Cisco's Answer--
Dear Qing:

Yes, you will need to take the CCNA exam. To achieve the Cisco Certified
Network Professional (CCNP) certification you have a valid CCNA certification.

On June 24, 2003 Cisco Systems, Inc. announced three enhancements to the
CCNA (Cisco Certified Network Associate) program. The enhancements include a
new two-step exam path for new candidates entering the networking field,
revisions to the existing CCNA exam and the option for candidates to
recertify their CCNA certification by passing the ICND 640-811 exam.

Candidates have two options to obtain their CCNA certification:
1. Passing the CCNA 640-607 (Last day to register September 30, 2003) or
CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003)
2. Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821) and ICND
640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003)

Cisco has developed several recommended courses that are only available
through a Cisco Certified Learning Partner. Use the Learning Locator to
locate the next available course in your area. Contact the Learning Partner
directly for course availability, registration information and cost.

For additional information about the CCNA certification please visit
http://www.cisco.com/go/ccna.

If you have any further questions, click on the hyperlink above to update,
review or generate a support request.

Be sure to bookmark the www.cisco.com/go/certsupport site for all of your
future Cisco Training and Career Certification inquiries.

Best regards,

Certifications & Training Team

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grant franklin wrote:
> 
> Hi,all
> 
> I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take
> recertification exam yet. If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do
> I need to recertificate my CCNA in order to get the CCNP
> certification?
> 
> Thanks in advance!
> 
> Grant




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Re: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-11 Thread Mwalie W
Grant,

Correct, you will need to do the CCNA exam againthis should not be
difficult considering the rate at which you have been doing your CCNP :-)

Good Luck...you are not a CCNP despite finishing the 4 courses.

Very strange rule indeed. It must be meant to suit Cisco's Certification
Information System logic.

Mwalie


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Re: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-10 Thread Kevin Wigle
There is no recert for CCNA - that would make your CCNA inactive and
therefore yes you will have to do the CCNA again.

Kevin Wigle

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Subject: CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]


> Hi,all
>
> I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take recertification exam
yet.
> If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do I need to recertificate my CCNA in
> order to get the CCNP certification?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Grant




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CCNP and CCNA recertification [7:72138]

2003-07-10 Thread grant franklin
Hi,all

I got CCNA certification 4 years ago and not take recertification exam yet.
If I pass all the four CCNP exams, do I need to recertificate my CCNA in
order to get the CCNP certification?

Thanks in advance!

Grant


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Re: CCNA Exam ??? [7:71614]

2003-06-30 Thread tommy yin
yes. the new exam will add more routing protocols question and labs.

tommy yin
""Reza Arvandian""  P4HkSJ Hi All,
>
> Is it right that CCNA 640-607 exam will be expire soon(on Sep.) ?
> if yes give more info. about the new exam and the changes...
>
> Regards
> Reza




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CCNA Exam ??? [7:71614]

2003-06-29 Thread Reza Arvandian
Hi All,

Is it right that CCNA 640-607 exam will be expire soon(on Sep.) ?
if yes give more info. about the new exam and the changes...

Regards
Reza




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New CCNA Exam [7:71510]

2003-06-27 Thread Guruprasad Sanjeevi
HI group,'
 
I planned to take the new ccna 640-801. I am really not sure if my
preparation which I have made 607sufficient to take the new exam.
 
Any suggestions
 
TIA
Guru




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Re: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]

2003-06-24 Thread Charles Cthulhu Riley
Go, Cisco,  milk that cash cow!  Hope it doesn't kick you in theoh, look
a bird!

""annlee""  wrote in message
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> Here's the actual announcement:
>
>
>
>   CISCO INTRODUCES CCNA PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS
>   CCNA Offers New Exams for Those Entering Networking Field
>
>Today, Cisco Systems, Inc. . announces three enhancements to
the
> CCNA. (Cisco Certified Network Associate) Program which are based on
> customer feedback, the need for an accessible entry path into the
> certifications, and upgrades to the exam for addressing emerging
networking
> technologies. As the entry-level certification of the Cisco Career
> Certifications Program, CCNA represents a strong foundation and
> understanding of IP networking and troubleshooting. The enhancements
include
> a new two-step exam path for new candidates entering the networking field,
> revisions to the existing CCNA exam and the option for candidates to apply
> one of the new exams for CCNA recertification.
>
>   A Two-Step Approach:
>The two-step approach introduced in the CCNA program offers
> candidates the ability to certify at their own pace and skill levels. The
> two step approach does not replace the existing one exam option, but
allows
> candidates to achieve the certification in two stages by passing a new
> Introduction to Cisco Networking Technologies (INTRO) exam and a new
> Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices (ICND) exam to achieve CCNA
> certification.
>
>"Given the popularity and success of the CCNA program, we
> continue to enhance CCNA to meet our customers needs through skills
> assessment aimed at today's job requirements," said Don Field, senior
> manager, Internet Learning Solutions Group, Cisco Systems, Inc. "The
> two-step approach offers those new to the networking field the option to
> test their networking knowledge in stages."
>
> The two-certification paths for CCNA include:
>
> a.. Passing the CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003); or
> b.. Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam
641-821)
> and ICND 640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003).
>   Revisions to the CCNA content:
>The revised CCNA 640-801 exam replaces existing CCNA 640-607
exam
> and is designed to better assess the networking skills of entry level
> candidates. The CCNA curriculum includes understanding the functions and
> operations of local area networks (LAN), Cisco IOS fundamentals, wide area
> networks (WAN), virtual private networks (VPN), and Storage Area Networks
> (SAN). Other topics covered in the CCNA curriculum are IP Addressing,
Cisco
> Command Line Interface (CLI), Routing and Switching technologies and
> protocols. The CCNA certification content, technology and testing remains
> focused on real-world skills assessment with labs and exam simulations
being
> key components of CCNA courses and exams.
>
>   Recertification:
>    The new ICND exam now qualifies CCNA holders for
recertification.
> The CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify,
candidates
> can also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any
exam
> at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix
> 642. The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003.
CCNA:
> www.cisco.com/go/ccna
>
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> delivery method and go to the "Click Here to List Offerings" links to
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Re: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]

2003-06-24 Thread annlee
Here's the actual announcement:



  CISCO INTRODUCES CCNA PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS
  CCNA Offers New Exams for Those Entering Networking Field

   Today, Cisco Systems, Inc. . announces three enhancements to the
CCNA. (Cisco Certified Network Associate) Program which are based on
customer feedback, the need for an accessible entry path into the
certifications, and upgrades to the exam for addressing emerging networking
technologies. As the entry-level certification of the Cisco Career
Certifications Program, CCNA represents a strong foundation and
understanding of IP networking and troubleshooting. The enhancements include
a new two-step exam path for new candidates entering the networking field,
revisions to the existing CCNA exam and the option for candidates to apply
one of the new exams for CCNA recertification.

  A Two-Step Approach:
   The two-step approach introduced in the CCNA program offers
candidates the ability to certify at their own pace and skill levels. The
two step approach does not replace the existing one exam option, but allows
candidates to achieve the certification in two stages by passing a new
Introduction to Cisco Networking Technologies (INTRO) exam and a new
Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices (ICND) exam to achieve CCNA
certification.

   "Given the popularity and success of the CCNA program, we
continue to enhance CCNA to meet our customers needs through skills
assessment aimed at today's job requirements," said Don Field, senior
manager, Internet Learning Solutions Group, Cisco Systems, Inc. "The
two-step approach offers those new to the networking field the option to
test their networking knowledge in stages."

The two-certification paths for CCNA include:

a.. Passing the CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003); or
b.. Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821)
and ICND 640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003).
  Revisions to the CCNA content:
   The revised CCNA 640-801 exam replaces existing CCNA 640-607 exam
and is designed to better assess the networking skills of entry level
candidates. The CCNA curriculum includes understanding the functions and
operations of local area networks (LAN), Cisco IOS fundamentals, wide area
networks (WAN), virtual private networks (VPN), and Storage Area Networks
(SAN). Other topics covered in the CCNA curriculum are IP Addressing, Cisco
Command Line Interface (CLI), Routing and Switching technologies and
protocols. The CCNA certification content, technology and testing remains
focused on real-world skills assessment with labs and exam simulations being
key components of CCNA courses and exams.

  Recertification:
   The new ICND exam now qualifies CCNA holders for recertification.
The CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, candidates
can also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any exam
at the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix
642. The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003. CCNA:
www.cisco.com/go/ccna


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RE: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]

2003-06-24 Thread Leigh Anne Chisholm
CISCO INTRODUCES CCNA PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS
CCNA Offers New Exams for Those Entering Networking Field

 Today, Cisco Systems, Inc. . announces three enhancements to the CCNA.
(Cisco Certified Network Associate) Program which are based on customer
feedback, the need for an accessible entry path into the certifications, and
upgrades to the exam for addressing emerging networking technologies. As the
entry-level certification of the Cisco Career Certifications Program, CCNA
represents a strong foundation and understanding of IP networking and
troubleshooting. The enhancements include a new two-step exam path for new
candidates entering the networking field, revisions to the existing CCNA
exam and the option for candidates to apply one of the new exams for CCNA
recertification.

A Two-Step Approach:
 The two-step approach introduced in the CCNA program offers candidates
the ability to certify at their own pace and skill levels. The two step
approach does not replace the existing one exam option, but allows
candidates to achieve the certification in two stages by passing a new
Introduction to Cisco Networking Technologies (INTRO) exam and a new
Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices (ICND) exam to achieve CCNA
certification.

 "Given the popularity and success of the CCNA program, we continue to
enhance CCNA to meet our customers needs through skills assessment aimed at
today's job requirements," said Don Field, senior manager, Internet Learning
Solutions Group, Cisco Systems, Inc. "The two-step approach offers those new
to the networking field the option to test their networking knowledge in
stages."

The two-certification paths for CCNA include:

Passing the CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003); or
Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821) and ICND
640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003).
Revisions to the CCNA content:

 The revised CCNA 640-801 exam replaces existing CCNA 640-607 exam and
is designed to better assess the networking skills of entry level
candidates. The CCNA curriculum includes understanding the functions and
operations of local area networks (LAN), Cisco IOS fundamentals, wide area
networks (WAN), virtual private networks (VPN), and Storage Area Networks
(SAN). Other topics covered in the CCNA curriculum are IP Addressing, Cisco
Command Line Interface (CLI), Routing and Switching technologies and
protocols. The CCNA certification content, technology and testing remains
focused on real-world skills assessment with labs and exam simulations being
key components of CCNA courses and exams.

Recertification:
 The new ICND exam now qualifies CCNA holders for recertification. The
CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, candidates can
also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any exam at
the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642.
The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003. CCNA:
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Subject: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]


I haven't seen anything about this before, so I thought I'd share an article
from CertMag


Cisco_PolishesCisco Polishes CCNA Certification
Cisco Systems will announce several enhancements to the Cisco Certified
Network Associate (CCNA) program tomorrow, June 24th. CCNA, Cisco's most
popular certification, was introduced in April 1998 and is the entry-level
certification for the Cisco Career Certification Program. It requires
base-level knowledge of IP networking and troubleshooting. Enhancements to
the CCNA program include a new two-step exam path, revisions to content and
a new recertification option.

Candidates will now have two paths to approach CCNA certifi

RE: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]

2003-06-24 Thread Daniel Cotts
Here's the Cisco announcement:
 
CISCO INTRODUCES CCNA PROGRAM ENHANCEMENTS
CCNA Offers New Exams for Those Entering Networking Field

 Today, Cisco Systems, Inc. . announces three enhancements to the CCNA.
(Cisco Certified Network Associate) Program which are based on customer
feedback, the need for an accessible entry path into the certifications, and
upgrades to the exam for addressing emerging networking technologies. As the
entry-level certification of the Cisco Career Certifications Program, CCNA
represents a strong foundation and understanding of IP networking and
troubleshooting. The enhancements include a new two-step exam path for new
candidates entering the networking field, revisions to the existing CCNA
exam and the option for candidates to apply one of the new exams for CCNA
recertification.

A Two-Step Approach:
 The two-step approach introduced in the CCNA program offers candidates
the ability to certify at their own pace and skill levels. The two step
approach does not replace the existing one exam option, but allows
candidates to achieve the certification in two stages by passing a new
Introduction to Cisco Networking Technologies (INTRO) exam and a new
Interconnecting Cisco Network Devices (ICND) exam to achieve CCNA
certification. 

 "Given the popularity and success of the CCNA program, we continue to
enhance CCNA to meet our customers needs through skills assessment aimed at
today's job requirements," said Don Field, senior manager, Internet Learning
Solutions Group, Cisco Systems, Inc. "The two-step approach offers those new
to the networking field the option to test their networking knowledge in
stages."

The two-certification paths for CCNA include:

Passing the CCNA 640-801 exam (available on June 30, 2003); or 
Passing the INTRO 640-821 exam (currently as beta exam 641-821) and ICND
640-811 exam (available on June 30, 2003). 
Revisions to the CCNA content:
 The revised CCNA 640-801 exam replaces existing CCNA 640-607 exam and
is designed to better assess the networking skills of entry level
candidates. The CCNA curriculum includes understanding the functions and
operations of local area networks (LAN), Cisco IOS fundamentals, wide area
networks (WAN), virtual private networks (VPN), and Storage Area Networks
(SAN). Other topics covered in the CCNA curriculum are IP Addressing, Cisco
Command Line Interface (CLI), Routing and Switching technologies and
protocols. The CCNA certification content, technology and testing remains
focused on real-world skills assessment with labs and exam simulations being
key components of CCNA courses and exams.

Recertification:
 The new ICND exam now qualifies CCNA holders for recertification. The
CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, candidates can
also pass the new ICND 640-811 exam, the current CCNA exam, or any exam at
the Professional or Cisco Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642.
The existing CCNA 640-607 exam will retire on September 30, 2003. CCNA:
www.cisco.com/go/ccna





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delivery method and go to the "Click Here to List Offerings" links to
register for a scheduled course today. 

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> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:33 AM
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> Subject: New CCNA tracks [7:71256]
> 
> 
> I haven't seen anything about this before, so I thought I'd 
> share an article
> from CertMag
>  
>  
> Cisco_PolishesCisco Polishes CCNA Certification
> Cisco Systems will announce several enhancements to the Cisco 
> Certified
> Network Associate (CCNA) program tomorrow, June 24th. CCNA, 
> Cisco's most
> popular certification, was introduced in April 1998 and is 
> the entry-level
> certification for the Cisco Career Certification Program. It requires
> base-level knowledge of IP networking and troubleshooting. 
> Enhancements to
> the CCNA program include a ne

New CCNA tracks [7:71256]

2003-06-24 Thread Dennis Laganiere
I haven't seen anything about this before, so I thought I'd share an article
from CertMag
 
 
Cisco_PolishesCisco Polishes CCNA Certification
Cisco Systems will announce several enhancements to the Cisco Certified
Network Associate (CCNA) program tomorrow, June 24th. CCNA, Cisco's most
popular certification, was introduced in April 1998 and is the entry-level
certification for the Cisco Career Certification Program. It requires
base-level knowledge of IP networking and troubleshooting. Enhancements to
the CCNA program include a new two-step exam path, revisions to content and
a new recertification option.

Candidates will now have two paths to approach CCNA certification: a
single-exam path that includes exam #640-801 (which will be available June
30th) or a two-exam path that includes exam #640-821 (Introduction to Cisco
Networking Technologies, or INTRO) and exam #640-811 (Interconnecting Cisco
Network Devices, or ICND). 
 
 
http://www.certmag.com/articles/templates/cmag_nl_extra_content.asp?articlei
d=298
 &zoneid=37
 
(watch the wrap)...
 
--- Dennis




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RE: Recert CCNA [7:70459]

2003-06-10 Thread Jack Nalbandian
You can pass one test, only the BSCI or BCRAN test, and retain you CCNA
status (for another 3 years) until you can test for the rest.

You don't need to retest for the CCNA at all.

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Few months is enough time to get your CCNP, depending where you stand with
understanding the technology and hands on.
Don't waste your time with CCNA.

Just my 2 cents.
Jim




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Hey Gang has anyone taken the 607 test? If so what are the best books to
study with? My CCNA runs out in a few months so it's back to the books.



Thanks,

Steve




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RE: Recert CCNA [7:70459]

2003-06-10 Thread Walker, James, IS
Few months is enough time to get your CCNP, depending where you stand with
understanding the technology and hands on.
Don't waste your time with CCNA.

Just my 2 cents.
Jim




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Hey Gang has anyone taken the 607 test? If so what are the best books to
study with? My CCNA runs out in a few months so it's back to the books.



Thanks,

Steve




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Recert CCNA [7:70459]

2003-06-10 Thread Steve Smith
Hey Gang has anyone taken the 607 test? If so what are the best books to
study with? My CCNA runs out in a few months so it's back to the books.



Thanks,

Steve




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RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]

2003-06-09 Thread Jack Nalbandian
I think that you only need to pass one CCNP test in order to extend your
CCNA status.

Below is a quote from www.cisco.com

"CCNA certifications are valid for three years. To recertify, pass the
current certification exam or any new exam at the Professional or Cisco
Qualified Specialist level bearing the prefix 642."

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To All,

I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire.  He has three tests
completed out of the four toward his CCNP.  If his CCNA certification
expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA.  What
is Cisco's policy concerning this?

Mike




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RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]

2003-06-09 Thread Peri Sophos
He can still take the CCNP , however if the CCNA expired when he writes
the final CCNP exam , he will then NOT be a CCNP , he will have to re do
his CCNA exam, pass it , and then he will be recognized as a CCNP.

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Subject: CCNA certification [7:70400]


To All,

I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire.  He has three
tests
completed out of the four toward his CCNP.  If his CCNA certification
expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA.
What
is Cisco's policy concerning this?

Mike
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RE: CCNA certification [7:70400]

2003-06-09 Thread Steve Wilson
To be a CCNP you must have a valid and current CCNA. The CCNP then validates
your new status. I found this out when my friend passed all the four exams
for CCDP but because he didn't have the CCDA he cannot call himself CCDP
until he does. The same applies to CCNP without a CCNA. To get my CCDP I
require passing both CCDA and the design exam, not just the design alone.

Steve Wilson CCNP CCDA
Network Engineer

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To All,

I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire.  He has three tests
completed out of the four toward his CCNP.  If his CCNA certification
expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA.  What
is Cisco's policy concerning this?

Mike




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CCNA certification [7:70400]

2003-06-09 Thread Mike Momb
To All,

I have a friend who has a CCNA and its about to expire.  He has three tests
completed out of the four toward his CCNP.  If his CCNA certification
expires, can he take the final test and be a CCNP with a expired CCNA.  What
is Cisco's policy concerning this?

Mike




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RE: Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-06-02 Thread Peri Sophos
Cisco Certified Network Associate Exam (CCNA 640-607)*  

 


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Associated Certifications: CCNA 
Duration: 90 minutes (55-65 questions) 
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  Exam Description 
 
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required to achieve a CCNA Routing and Switching certification. 

  Exam Topics 
 
 The following topics are general guidelines for the content likely to
be included on the CCNA exam. However, other related topics may also
appear on any specific delivery of the exam.


Bridging/Switching
 Distinguish between cut-through and store-and-forward LAN switching  
 Describe the operation of the Spanning Tree Protocol and its benefits 
 Verify the operation of the Spanning Tree Protocol on the switch 
 Describe the operation and benefits of VLANs 
 Configure VLANs on a switch 
 Configure VTP and trunking on switches 
 Compare and contrast switches and bridges 
 Identify anomolies in VLAN, trunking, and VTP operation 
 Configure a switch for basic operations 


OSI Reference Model & Layered Communication
 Describe data link and network addresses and identify key differences
between them 
 Identify at least three reasons why the industry uses a layered model 
 Define and explain the conversion steps of data encapsulation and
de-encapsulation 
 Describe connection-oriented network service and connectionless network
service, and identify their key differences 
 Describe the functions of each the seven layers of the OSI model and
their corresponding applications 
 Compare the OSI model with the TCP/IP stack 
 Match networking devices to their OSI layer(s) 
 Use the OSI model as a conceptual strategy to identify network problems



Routed Protocols
 Describe the different classes of IP addresses including subnetting and
private addresses 
 Configure IP addresses 
 Troubleshoot IP address schemes 
 Develop an IP addressing scheme to meet requirements 
 Identify the fundamental uses of various TCP/IP application layer
protocols 
 Convert between decimal, hexadecimal, and binary 
 Define flow control and describe the three basic methods used in
networking 
 Explain the functions of the TCP/IP network and transport layer
protocols 


Routing Protocols
 Configure a router for inter-VLAN communication 
 Verify IP routing with show and debug commands 
 Compare and contrast the key operations that distinguish
distance-vector, link-state, and hybrid protocols 
 Identify exterior and interior routing protocols 
 Configure static and default routes on a router 
 Enable RIP and IGRP on a router 
 Identify routing metrics used by IGRP and RIP 


WAN Protocols
 Explain key Frame Relay terms and features 
 Configure Frame Relay LMIs, maps, and subinterfaces 
 Identify ISDN protocols, function groups, reference points, and
channels 
 Differentiate between the following WAN services: LAPB, Frame Relay,
ISDN/LAPD, HDLC, PPP, and DDR 
 Identify PPP operations to encapsulate WAN data on Cisco routers 
 Use show commands to display network operational parameters so that
anomalies are detected 
 Configure ISDN BRI and legacy dial-on-demand routing (DDR) 
 Configure a serial connection with PPP encapsulation 


Network Management
 Monitor and verify selected access list operations on the router 
 Configure authentification types (CHAP/PAP) on PPP links 
 Manage configuration files from the privilege EXEC mode 
 Manage IOS images and device configuration files 
 Load Cisco IOS software from: Flash memory, a TFTP server, or ROM 
 Perform backup, upgrade, and loading of Cisco IOS software and
configuration files 
 Configure access lists to meet specified operational requirements 
 Use CDP to identify a network topology 
 Use ICMP to verify network connectivity and locate network problems 


LAN Technologies
 Determine the appropriate uses for full- and half-duplex Ethernet
operation. 
 Describe the causes and effects of network congestion in Ethernet
networks 
 Describe the benefits of network segmentation with various networking
devices 
 Identify the cause(s) of LAN connectivity problem 
 Describe the function, operation, and primary components on a LAN 


Cisco Basics, IOS & Network Basics
 Describe router elements (RAM, ROM, Flash, NVRAM, config register) 
 Configure router passwords, identification, and banner 
 Use the context-sensitive help facility 
 Use the command history and editing features 
 Perform the initial router configuration (including using the setup
mode). 
 Use show commands to display basic network operational parameters 
 Describe router start-up sequence 
 Establish connectivity fro

Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-06-02 Thread Guruprasad Sanjeevi
Group,
 
I am going to take ccna 3.0  as my ccna 1.0 has expired. Can anyone
please tell me the topics that I need to focus on? . I'm working on
routers for past 3 years
 
TIA
guru




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Re: Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-05-30 Thread Tom Martin
The URL was stripped from the earlier post:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/
certprog/testing/current_exams/640-607.html


Tom Martin wrote:
>(Watch for word wrap)
> 
> Guruprasad Sanjeevi wrote:
> 
>>Group,
>> 
>>I am going to take ccna 3.0  as my ccna 1.0 has expired. Can anyone
>>please tell me the topics that I need to focus on? . I'm working on
>>routers for past 3 years
>> 
>>TIA
>>guru




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RE: Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-05-30 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G
Look at the CCNA blueprint on the Cisco website for the most accurate
description of topics that will be covered. See the following link (watch
for wrap):

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-607.html

Shawn K.

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Group,
 
I am going to take ccna 3.0  as my ccna 1.0 has expired. Can anyone
please tell me the topics that I need to focus on? . I'm working on
routers for past 3 years
 
TIA
guru




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Re: Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-05-30 Thread Tom Martin
   (Watch for word wrap)

Guruprasad Sanjeevi wrote:
> Group,
>  
> I am going to take ccna 3.0  as my ccna 1.0 has expired. Can anyone
> please tell me the topics that I need to focus on? . I'm working on
> routers for past 3 years
>  
> TIA
> guru




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RE: Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-05-30 Thread David Ristau
description fo the 640-607 exam.


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Need help for CCNA 3.0 [7:69772]

2003-05-30 Thread Guruprasad Sanjeevi
Group,
 
I am going to take ccna 3.0  as my ccna 1.0 has expired. Can anyone
please tell me the topics that I need to focus on? . I'm working on
routers for past 3 years
 
TIA
guru




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RE: Books for CCNA and CCNP [7:66340]

2003-03-28 Thread Vikram JeetSingh
Dear Arif,

For CCNA the best book around is Cisco Press Wendell Odem book, for CCNP
track all Cisco Press books are fine, specially Clare Gaugh for Routing, and
also. for CIT exam Pris's Troubleshooting Campus Networks is considered the
best. 

Regards,
Vikram
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Hi,
 
I need to know which are the good recommended books for CCNA and CCNP
preparation. Thanks in advance for providing the info.
 
Thanks,
 
Ijaz Arif, CCIE#4542
Solutions Engineer, AES 
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Books for CCNA and CCNP [7:66340]

2003-03-27 Thread Arif, Ijaz
Hi,
 
I need to know which are the good recommended books for CCNA and CCNP
preparation. Thanks in advance for providing the info.
 
Thanks,
 
Ijaz Arif, CCIE#4542
Solutions Engineer, AES 
AT&T Canada
Business:  (905) 361-6148
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RE: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-20 Thread Donald Smith
Robert
   The Cisco Academy program does a very good job of preparing instructors
(and students) for CCNA.  I had 15 years in data comm and networking before
going for CCAI/CCNA, and had to study quite a bit to get the Cisco view of
the world.  Of course IOS commands are key (and becoming more important with
sims) but many of the questions require students to compare/contrast
multiple technologies or concepts.
   If nothing else, look for a local Cisco academy program (at a junior
college probably) and sign up for a class.  Once signed up, you have access
to *ALL* of the material (all four semesters).  The books are excellent
references, but the "e-sims" are limited.  Invest in either routers or a
full RouterSim.   If you plan to teach, you'll need a stack of routers
anyway (bill them to your company).  Build and troubleshoot the "Semester 2
lab" (five routers, plus hubs and switches), and you'll be ready to go.
    Good Luck.  I took the CCNA after teaching 3 semesters (out of 4) plus
studied the rest, and got 975 (out of 1000) on the CCNA exam.
   
Good Luck,  Don


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Re: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-19 Thread Tom Lisa
Or the super-normal way is to have a Cisco Certified Academy Instructor
(CCAI) from an authorized Cisco Networking Academy with both on-line
curriculum and textbooks with a plethora of routers, switches, hubs,
modems, isdn/pots/t1 simulators, test equipment and numerous lab
experiments.  :)

Prof. Tom Lisa, CCAI
Community College of Southern Nevada
Cisco ATC/Regional Networking Academy
"Cunctando restituit rem"

Jens Neelsen wrote:

  Hi,

  the normal way is to have an experienced certified instructor
  from a Cisco Learning Partner with the original coursebook from
  Cisco and the necessary lab.

  Jens

  --- Robert Raver  wrote:
  > Hey,
  >
  > I have been given the duty to teach a CCNA class.  Have any of
  > you done this
  > before?  I was wondering what did and didn't work for you?
  > What tips you
  > might have.  What the best way of approaching this would be.
  > We will be
  > using
  > the Cisco Press book for the class and each student will have
  > three routers
  > and a switch.
  >
  > Thanks,
  > Robert Raver
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Re: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-19 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Go to www.course.com and search for curriculum material.  Is the curriculum
already developed or do you need to create one. You may use the material as
reference material and modify your curriculum accordingly.  Register on
course.com as an Instructor or Educator to receive updates and text books to
assist with your preparation.

6. Course ILT: Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA)
ISBN: 0619175036 ) Sep. 2002
Description: Designed for up to five days of instructor-led training, This
Course ILT manual will prepare individuals to pass the Cisco CCNA Exam.

7. Course ILT: Cisco Certified Network Associate (CCNA): Instructor's
Edition
ISBN: 0619175044 ) Sep. 2002  [student downloads]
Description: Designed for up to five days of instructor-led training, This
Course ILT manual will prepare individuals to pass the Cisco CCNA Exam.

8. CCNA Lab Manual for Cisco Networking, Second Edition
Authors: Kelly Cannon
ISBN: 0619034785 ) Aug. 2002
Description: This lab manual, when used with CCNA Guide to Cisco Networking,
Second Edition, provides you with the hands-on exercises and analysis you
need to pass the CCNA Exam #640-607 and to become a successful Cisco network
administrator.

9. CCNA Guide to Cisco Networking, Second Edition
Authors: Kurt Hudson, Kelly Caudle, Kelly Cannon
ISBN: 0619034777 ) Aug. 2002
Description: Provides comprehensive coverage of Cisco networking and
routing, and prepares the user for Cisco's CCNA Exam #640-607.

- Original Message -
From: "Jens Neelsen" 
To: 
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:09 AM
Subject: Re: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]


> Hi,
>
> the normal way is to have an experienced certified instructor
> from a Cisco Learning Partner with the original coursebook from
> Cisco and the necessary lab.
>
> Jens
>
> --- Robert Raver  wrote:
> > Hey,
> >
> > I have been given the duty to teach a CCNA class.  Have any of
> > you done this
> > before?  I was wondering what did and didn't work for you?
> > What tips you
> > might have.  What the best way of approaching this would be.
> > We will be
> > using
> > the Cisco Press book for the class and each student will have
> > three routers
> > and a switch.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Robert Raver
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]




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RE: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-19 Thread Logan, Harold
The most important thing to remember is that the CCNA is roughly 70%
concepts and 30% commands. It's very easy to get wrapped up in commands, but
it doesn't do students any good if they've memorized the commands to
configure frame relay but they don't know what frame is or when it is used.

You may want to post a message on the CCNA list. I believe there are several
other Network Academy instructors there who will have some input too.

Hal Logan CCAI, CCNDP, CCNP: Voice
Network Specialist / Adjunct Faculty
Computing & Engineering Technology
Manatee Community College


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> From: Robert Raver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 9:22 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]
> 
> 
> Hey,
> 
> I have been given the duty to teach a CCNA class.  Have any 
> of you done this
> before?  I was wondering what did and didn't work for you?  
> What tips you
> might have.  What the best way of approaching this would be.  
> We will be
> using
> the Cisco Press book for the class and each student will have 
> three routers
> and a switch.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert Raver




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Re: Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-19 Thread Jens Neelsen
Hi,

the normal way is to have an experienced certified instructor
from a Cisco Learning Partner with the original coursebook from
Cisco and the necessary lab.

Jens

--- Robert Raver  wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> I have been given the duty to teach a CCNA class.  Have any of
> you done this
> before?  I was wondering what did and didn't work for you? 
> What tips you
> might have.  What the best way of approaching this would be. 
> We will be
> using
> the Cisco Press book for the class and each student will have
> three routers
> and a switch.
> 
> Thanks,
> Robert Raver
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Cisco Instructor - CCNA Class [7:65742]

2003-03-19 Thread Robert Raver
Hey,

I have been given the duty to teach a CCNA class.  Have any of you done this
before?  I was wondering what did and didn't work for you?  What tips you
might have.  What the best way of approaching this would be.  We will be
using
the Cisco Press book for the class and each student will have three routers
and a switch.

Thanks,
Robert Raver




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Re: CCNA Exam - number of subnet question [7:65234]

2003-03-12 Thread aletoledo
I think it depends on the question. I've found that most exams will give a
little hint, either the answer doesn't support both choices or the question
will have some comment of suitability of subnets.

if I had to choose though, I'd choose 2^6-2, since it wasn't till 12.0 that
the ip-subnet zero was made default and the tests were written prior to
that.

scott

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> Hello,
>
> When you are asked for the number of subnets in the exam CCNA 640-607:
>
> ie. 150.10.10.10 255.255.255.252.0
>
> -> subnet bits = 6
>
> -> supported subnets: 2^6 or 2^6-2 ??
>
> In other words: if noting is mentioned in the question, do I have to
> count zero-subnet and broadcast subnet as valid ? or invalid ?
> when nothing is mentioned.
>
>
> Geert




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CCNA Exam - number of subnet question [7:65234]

2003-03-12 Thread Geert Nijs
Hello,

When you are asked for the number of subnets in the exam CCNA 640-607:

ie. 150.10.10.10 255.255.255.252.0

-> subnet bits = 6

-> supported subnets: 2^6 or 2^6-2 ??

In other words: if noting is mentioned in the question, do I have to
count zero-subnet and broadcast subnet as valid ? or invalid ?
when nothing is mentioned.


Geert




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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-04 Thread Larry Letterman
Craig,

Very well put...

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
Cisco Systems


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From: "Craig Columbus"

To: 
Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2003 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]


> For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to
late 1990s, these
> last few years have been eye opening.
> Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could
easily land a
> job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning
power was an
> anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically,
jobs that paid
> significantly more than average (engineering, medicine,
law, etc.) required
> a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.
When it got to
> the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could
pass certain
> certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps,
two things happened:
> 1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded
demand.  As
> anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell
you, excess supply
> leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary)
required to
> obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
> 2) Companies realized that certifications were no
predictor of ability or
> performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline
indicator that the person
> has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.
>
> Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of
qualified IT
> labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those
with the better
> qualifications (experience, education, and
certifications), those who are
> willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what
they could expect to
> earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The
only places touting
> the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those
training centers
> that base their very existence on luring people to very
expensive classes
> with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying
job in hand.
>
> The bottom line is that there's no substitution for
education and hard work
> when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are
certifications still
> important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many
companies use them as a
> basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and
whose gets
> passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good
job?  Absolutely
> not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is
approaching when
> IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as
other career
> fields.  You're going to need an education along with the
certification if
> you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.
>
> Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary
in IT.  The way
> you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a
highly dynamic
> field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to
the unemployment
> line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the
learning NEVER
> stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every
day, you're
> going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can
be frustrating
> and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how
the IT guys are
> often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the
CEO's car is at the
> golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office
working on an
> upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges
that come with
> it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the
field long enough
> to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you
love technology,
> and you love your work, you'll find that over the years,
your skills and
> knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.
>
>
>
> At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
> >Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york.
What I want to know is
> >that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna
salary's start at 60k
> >but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out
that a ccna
> >certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone
please elaborate on
> >this and if possible tell me which combination of it
certifications  are
> >necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.
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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-04 Thread J.D. Chaiken
As an employee of one of those training centers, I would like to warn anyone
considering one of them to beware of schools that list salaries in their
advertisments.  The last I checked Institutions that are accredited by the
US Department of Education are not permitted to make promises with regard to
future salary.  They are not even allowed to allude to it.  So if you are
thinking about enrolling in a school which advertises "That if you take our
xxx course, you can earn $"  you should be suspect.  Also beware of
schools that offer Placement guarntees, as it is impossible to guarantee
that you will get a job unless the school has an internship program which
they consider a placement.


J



""Craig Columbus""  wrote in message
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> For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to late 1990s,
these
> last few years have been eye opening.
> Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could easily land a
> job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning power was an
> anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically, jobs that paid
> significantly more than average (engineering, medicine, law, etc.)
required
> a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.  When it got to
> the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could pass certain
> certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps, two things
happened:
> 1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded demand.  As
> anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell you, excess supply
> leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary) required to
> obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
> 2) Companies realized that certifications were no predictor of ability or
> performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline indicator that the
person
> has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.
>
> Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of qualified IT
> labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those with the better
> qualifications (experience, education, and certifications), those who are
> willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what they could expect
to
> earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The only places touting
> the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those training centers
> that base their very existence on luring people to very expensive classes
> with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying job in hand.
>
> The bottom line is that there's no substitution for education and hard
work
> when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are certifications still
> important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many companies use them as a
> basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and whose gets
> passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good job?  Absolutely
> not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is approaching
when
> IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as other career
> fields.  You're going to need an education along with the certification if
> you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.
>
> Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary in IT.  The way
> you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a highly dynamic
> field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to the unemployment
> line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the learning NEVER
> stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every day, you're
> going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can be frustrating
> and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how the IT guys are
> often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the CEO's car is at
the
> golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office working on an
> upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges that come with
> it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the field long enough
> to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you love technology,
> and you love your work, you'll find that over the years, your skills and
> knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.
>
>
>
> At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
> >Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york. What I want to know
is
> >that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna salary's start at
60k
> >but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out that a ccna
> >certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone please elaborate on
> >this and if possible tell me which combination of it certifications  are
> >necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.




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Re: myth about ccna salary??? [7:5925]

2003-02-02 Thread Craig Columbus
For those who came into the IT industry during the mid to late 1990s, these 
last few years have been eye opening.
Let's face it...if you could spell MCSE in 1997, you could easily land a 
job earning $70k or more per year.  This amazing earning power was an 
anomaly that burst with the dotcom bubble.  Historically, jobs that paid 
significantly more than average (engineering, medicine, law, etc.) required 
a great deal of study and knowledge in the chosen field.  When it got to 
the point that just about anyone with a heartbeat could pass certain 
certification tests by rote memorization of braindumps, two things happened:
1) Certified people became a commodity and supply exceeded demand.  As 
anyone who took even an intro economics course can tell you, excess supply 
leads to falling prices.  In this case, the price (salary) required to 
obtain the commodity (certified persons) took a nose dive.
2) Companies realized that certifications were no predictor of ability or 
performance.  Rather, they are at best a baseline indicator that the person 
has been exposed to certain ideas and concepts.

Today, we're dealing with a slow economy and an excess of qualified IT 
labor.  Those who get jobs in today's market are those with the better 
qualifications (experience, education, and certifications), those who are 
willing to work for a salary greatly reduced from what they could expect to 
earn even two years ago, and those who are lucky.  The only places touting 
the ability of new CCNAs to earn $60k per year are those training centers 
that base their very existence on luring people to very expensive classes 
with the illusory promise of graduating with a high-paying job in hand.

The bottom line is that there's no substitution for education and hard work 
when trying to get a job in today's IT world.  Are certifications still 
important?  Yes.  If for no other reason that many companies use them as a 
basic screening tool to decide whose resume gets read and whose gets 
passed.  Are certifications enough to guarantee a good job?  Absolutely 
not.  Many people don't like to hear this, but the time is approaching when 
IT workers are going to be held to the same standards as other career 
fields.  You're going to need an education along with the certification if 
you're going to get your foot in the door in the future.

Finally, you want to know how to earn a six figure salary in IT.  The way 
you do this is to love your work.  You're dealing with a highly dynamic 
field where today's hot skill can be tomorrow's ticket to the unemployment 
line (ask the COBOL programmers).  This means that the learning NEVER 
stops.  If you're not studying the latest technology every day, you're 
going to find yourself useless very quickly.  The work can be frustrating 
and the hours can be very long. Have you ever noticed how the IT guys are 
often the first in and the last to leave?  And when the CEO's car is at the 
golf course on Saturday, the IT guy's car is at the office working on an 
upgrade?  If you don't love technology, and the challenges that come with 
it, you're going to have a very hard time staying in the field long enough 
to reach the six figure mark.  On the other hand, if you love technology, 
and you love your work, you'll find that over the years, your skills and 
knowledge will increase, and the salary will come.



At 04:39 AM 2/2/2003 +, you wrote:
>Hello, I'm recently taking a ccna course in new york. What I want to know is
>that I've read in salary reports which state that ccna salary's start at 60k
>but in message boards such as this one, I'm finding out that a ccna
>certification alone will get you nothing. Can someone please elaborate on
>this and if possible tell me which combination of it certifications  are
>necessary for the 6- figure salary range. Thank you.




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Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]

2003-01-10 Thread Marc Thach Xuan Ky
I've found that it's useful to have a variety of kit, and as many
routers as possible.  Cisco prices on eBay have fallen through the
floor.  A 4000 series with NP-4Ts is a good frame switch. 2500 are good
workhorses, best to get one with an ISDN BRI (I didn't and regretted
it).  Once you have a couple of ethernet-based routers, don't discount
token-ring 2500s if they are cheap or any 3000 series router.  3000s are
ludicrously cheap at the moment and can run 2500 IOS 12.0 images.  Don't
buy multiple 2600s unless you're rich. Two 12-port switches allows
better practise that one 24-port.
rgds
Marc

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> 
> Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab
> setup for my CCNA/CCNP training?  Any advice would be appreciated.




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Re: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]

2003-01-09 Thread Wayne Jang
I would get three 2500 and a switch.  Unless you are going to upgrade to a
CCIE lab, I would say that 2600s might be a little $$$
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> Hi there,
> I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600
> has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought!
:)
> There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out
with.
> Good luck with your lab set-up.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Kenan




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RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]

2003-01-09 Thread Kenan Ahmed Siddiqi
Hi there,
I suggest get 3 2600 series routers. Even though 2500 would also do, 2600
has some value added services which the 2500 don't offer. Just a thought! :)
There are other things needed which I am sure others will help you out with.
Good luck with your lab set-up.

Cheers,

Kenan


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RE: CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]

2003-01-09 Thread Larry Letterman
do you plan on doing lab practice on
ATM
Frame Relay
ISDN
Modem Dial

If so then you need 2 or 3 routers and atleast one switch. The routers need
capability for all the above since those topics are covered in the various
CCNP test. Its not necessary to do labs for the CCNP, but it helps.

Larry Letterman
Network Engineer
San Jose Transport
Cisco Systems Inc.



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>
>
> Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab
> setup for my CCNA/CCNP training?  Any advice would be appreciated.




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CCNA/CCNP home Lab setup [7:60727]

2003-01-09 Thread McManus, Robert BGI SDC
Could someone give me advice on what I would need (models) for a home lab
setup for my CCNA/CCNP training?  Any advice would be appreciated.




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RE: Is there anyone just passed new CCNA exam ? [7:59636]

2002-12-23 Thread James Gosnold
IPX is still there

Passing score is still 849


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Is there anyone just passed new CCNA exam ? [7:59636]

2002-12-20 Thread Hoang Duc Phuong
Dear all !!

Some of my friends will take the CCNA exam in next few week. I've gave them
outline of CCNA from cisco.com. But they still need more information
Is there newest experience in CCNA exam, like they have removed IPX Nowell,
passing score still stay at 849 ??? .

Thank you in advance

Hoang Duc Phuong, CCNP




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Re: CCNA and CCNP exam reviews [7:55930]

2002-10-23 Thread Shawn Sacauskas
I was wondering, I have the older version of the CCNA Certification Kit
(640-507).  Will this still be good enough since they're now at 640-607.
Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Shawn

""Andy Barkl""  wrote in message
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> If you are preparing for the new CCNA or CCNP exams, I have written exam
> review articles which I believe you will find helpful.
>
> Good luck!
>
> CCNA exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=152
>
> CCNP Routing exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=209
>
> CCNP Support exam: www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=202




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CCNA,CCNP,CCIE stuffs for Sale [7:55934]

2002-10-19 Thread banerjee sandip
Hello everybody, 

I have the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer,CCNA Ebook,CCNP,CCIE,CCDA,cisco
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I am very flexible and willing to trade if you need any of those items. Good
luck to everyone.Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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CCNA,CCNP,CCIE stuffs for sale [7:55628]

2002-10-15 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello everybody, 

I have the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer,CCNA Ebook,CCNP,CCIE,CCDA,cisco
press EBook,& Cisco Etrainer PPTs,lots more.It retails but
I am very flexible and willing to trade if you need any of those items. Good
luck to everyone.Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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CCNP 



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CCNA,CCNP & CCNP EBOOK & Other Stuff for sale [7:55182]

2002-10-09 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello everybody, 

I have the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer,CCNA Ebook,CCNP,CCIE,CCDA,cisco
press EBook,& Cisco Etrainer PPTs,lots more.It retails but
I am very flexible and willing to trade if you need any of those items. Good
luck to everyone.Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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CCNP 



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CCNA,CCNP,CCIE stuffs for sale [7:54859]

2002-10-04 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello everybody, 

I have the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer,CCNA Ebook,CCNP,CCIE,CCDA,cisco
press EBook,& Cisco Etrainer PPTs,lots more.It retails but
I am very flexible and willing to trade if you need any of those items. Good
luck to everyone.Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sandip Banerjee 
CCNP 



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CCNA,CCNP & CCIE stuff for trade [7:54858]

2002-10-04 Thread banerjee sandip

Hello everybody,

I have the Sybex CCNA Virtual Lab e-trainer,CCNA Ebook,CCNP,CCIE,CCDA,cisco
press EBook,& Cisco Etrainer PPT,lots more.It retails but
I am very flexible and willing to trade if you need any of those items. Good
luck to everyone.

Sandip Banerjee
CCNP




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Re: CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]

2002-09-04 Thread Nderitu Kiarie

If no one has yet told you its 849.
Cheers
Nderitu

Ernesto Diaz wrote:

>Does Anybody know the 640-607 passing score?
>
> 
>
>Regards,
>
> 
>
>Ernesto J. Diaz L.
>
>Information Technology
>
>Halliburton Venezuela
>
>Master Vzla: 58.291.652
>
>Office Vzla: 58.291.6502014
>
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>
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>
>Use Track-IT! for all IT Requirements
>
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RE: CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]

2002-09-03 Thread Heffner Christopher

The current required score is an 849 out of possible 1000 points.

Of course they give you the first 300 points for just showing up for the
test.

Best of Luck on the test.  It has gotten harder with the new simulations now
added to the test.  Get some practice on a router or two before attempting
the actual test.

Christopher M. Heffner
Strategic Network Solutions, Inc.
CCSI, CCIE, MCT, MCSE, MCNI, MCNE, CLI, PCLP, FCSE, CTT, ASE, A+



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RE: CCNA Exam Passing Score [7:52602]

2002-09-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

According to the Cisco website, they don't publish passing scores anymore.
They state:
"Cisco does not publish exam passing scores because exam questions and
passing scores are subject to change without notice."
So, even if someone gave you their passing score, yours may not be the same.
See the following link for more information:

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/about_exams.
html

Shawn K.

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> Subject:  CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]
> 
> Does Anybody know the 640-607 passing score?
> 
>  
> 
> Regards,
> 
>  
> 
> Ernesto J. Diaz L.
> 
> Information Technology
> 
> Halliburton Venezuela
> 
> Master Vzla: 58.291.652
> 
> Office Vzla: 58.291.6502014
> 
> Mobile Vzla: 58.416.6912573
> 
>  
> 
> Use Track-IT! for all IT Requirements
> 
>  http://trackit/ 
> 
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CCNA Exam Pasing Score [7:52602]

2002-09-03 Thread Ernesto Diaz

Does Anybody know the 640-607 passing score?

 

Regards,

 

Ernesto J. Diaz L.

Information Technology

Halliburton Venezuela

Master Vzla: 58.291.652

Office Vzla: 58.291.6502014

Mobile Vzla: 58.416.6912573

 

Use Track-IT! for all IT Requirements

 http://trackit/ 

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Re: Become a ccna teacher [7:51740]

2002-08-20 Thread News bluewin

thank you very much. It's the first time I use a group news. I think or I
hope it's gonna be very usefull.
See you once
""Phil Barker""  a icrit dans le message de
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> Take the instructors course at your local or regional
> academy. Pass each of the 4 Semesters with 80%+ and
> take your CCNA cert. Hey presto your a CCAI.
>
> Phil CCNP, CCAI.
>
>
>  --- News bluewin  wrote:
> > Hello
> > Is anyone knows the way I could get some help to get
> > infomation on the Cisco
> > Certified Academy Instructor (CCAI).
> > Thank you very much anyway.
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> __
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> Everything you'll ever need on one web page
> from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts
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Re: Become a ccna teacher [7:51740]

2002-08-20 Thread Phil Barker

Take the instructors course at your local or regional
academy. Pass each of the 4 Semesters with 80%+ and
take your CCNA cert. Hey presto your a CCAI.

Phil CCNP, CCAI.


 --- News bluewin  wrote:
> Hello
> Is anyone knows the way I could get some help to get
> infomation on the Cisco
> Certified Academy Instructor (CCAI).
> Thank you very much anyway.
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Become a ccna teacher [7:51740]

2002-08-20 Thread News bluewin

Hello
Is anyone knows the way I could get some help to get infomation on the Cisco
Certified Academy Instructor (CCAI).
Thank you very much anyway.




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RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread sunil sunilindia

No,


CCNA is very easy compared CCNP except the CCNP(switching), remaining are
not harder than CCNA, requires indepth study ,,,


Sunil


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CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread Robert Cluett

All,

I passed the CCNA, and found it varied as far as what types of questions the
asked.  Is the Routing exam the same.  So far the study material seems very
focused on OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP.  Any coments?

Rob Cluett, CCNA


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RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Yes, it is focused on EIGRP, OSPF, and BGP. I just took it a couple of weeks
ago for a client commitment and it didn't stray from those topics (at least
on my exam).

Shawn K.

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> From: Robert Cluett [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 5:34 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]
> 
> All,
> 
> I passed the CCNA, and found it varied as far as what types of questions
> the
> asked.  Is the Routing exam the same.  So far the study material seems
> very
> focused on OSPF, EIGRP, and BGP.  Any coments?
> 
> Rob Cluett, CCNA




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RE: CCNA Exam vs. BSCN Exam? [7:49829]

2002-07-26 Thread Robert Cluett

was it easier in you opinion?


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RE: Help me on my CCNA Design Project [7:48715]

2002-07-15 Thread Chris Charlebois

First of all, if you feel you need routing at gigabit-speeds, you probably
need layer 3 switching.  A Cat 4000 or 6500 with an RSM would do nicely.  Of
course, if this is anything but on paper, you've probably priced yourself
out of the market.

As for the GBIC question... Are you talking about the 2 connectors on a
fiber GBIC?  If so, you need both for one connection.  One is transmit and
the over is receive and they need to cross; Tx to Rx, Rx to Tx.


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RE: Help me on my CCNA Design Project [7:48715]

2002-07-15 Thread Fathalla A. Fathalla

Can you please past the part number of your GBIC module?


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Subject: Re: Help me on my CCNA Design Project [7:48715]


On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:13:02AM +, Ross Wood wrote:

> At the moment I am doing a design project for my CCNA classes. But I am
> having some problems. I have chosen the 3550-48 & 3550-24 switches and was
> wondering what kind of router I should choose. Most of the routers only
have
> 10/100 Ethernet ports but I would like a router with at least two gigabit
> ports that will fit directly into the 3550-48 switch GBIC. Also with the
> switches they both have two fibre ports which a GBIC card fits directly
into
> one of them which then gives you two ports on the GBIC. Does this then
give
> you 1Gbps per port on the GBIC?
>
> Hope someone can help me.

Well what is your uplink to your ISP ?
if your uplink is only ISDN 64 Kbps, it is useless to use a router that
supports gigabit interface.




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Re: Help me on my CCNA Design Project [7:48715]

2002-07-14 Thread Irwan Hadi

On Sat, Jul 13, 2002 at 08:13:02AM +, Ross Wood wrote:

> At the moment I am doing a design project for my CCNA classes. But I am
> having some problems. I have chosen the 3550-48 & 3550-24 switches and was
> wondering what kind of router I should choose. Most of the routers only
have
> 10/100 Ethernet ports but I would like a router with at least two gigabit
> ports that will fit directly into the 3550-48 switch GBIC. Also with the
> switches they both have two fibre ports which a GBIC card fits directly
into
> one of them which then gives you two ports on the GBIC. Does this then give
> you 1Gbps per port on the GBIC?
> 
> Hope someone can help me.

Well what is your uplink to your ISP ?
if your uplink is only ISDN 64 Kbps, it is useless to use a router that
supports gigabit interface.




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Help me on my CCNA Design Project [7:48715]

2002-07-13 Thread Ross Wood

At the moment I am doing a design project for my CCNA classes. But I am
having some problems. I have chosen the 3550-48 & 3550-24 switches and was
wondering what kind of router I should choose. Most of the routers only have
10/100 Ethernet ports but I would like a router with at least two gigabit
ports that will fit directly into the 3550-48 switch GBIC. Also with the
switches they both have two fibre ports which a GBIC card fits directly into
one of them which then gives you two ports on the GBIC. Does this then give
you 1Gbps per port on the GBIC?

Hope someone can help me.

Cheers
Ross


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RE: CCNA Exam [7:47923]

2002-07-04 Thread Ismail Al-Shelh

i think this site is good one 
http://www.net130.com 
but please do not tell anybody cause the cbts over there is free 
lol


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Hi all

Im going to sit for CCNA soon ,
would you give me the address of some usefull sites




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Re: CCNA Exam [7:47925]

2002-07-02 Thread John Kelley

muhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha


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Re: CCNA Exam [7:47925]

2002-07-02 Thread Johnny Routin

www.HowToPostOnlyOnce.com





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>
> Im going to sit for CCNA soon ,
> would you give me the address of some usefull sites




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CCNA Exam [7:47924]

2002-07-02 Thread Joupin

Hi all

Im going to sit for CCNA soon ,
would you give me the address of some usefull sites




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CCNA Exam [7:47923]

2002-07-02 Thread Joupin

Hi all

Im going to sit for CCNA soon ,
would you give me the address of some usefull sites




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CCNA Exam [7:47925]

2002-07-02 Thread Joupin

Hi all

Im going to sit for CCNA soon ,
would you give me the address of some usefull sites




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RE: ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]

2002-06-21 Thread Paul Borghese

Try the Atlanta Cisco users group.  They have study sessions for CCNA
candidates that meet at a local training center.

Go to:
http://www.internetworkexperts.net/acsg.htm

Good luck!

Paul Borghese

juan lenoir wrote:
> 
> hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda
> study group, is
> there anyone that can push me in the right
> direction..juan
> 
> 




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ccna/ccda study group [7:47168]

2002-06-21 Thread juan lenoir

hello.. ...i live in atlanta and am looking for a ccna/ccda study group, is
there anyone that can push me in the right direction..juan




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RE: CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]

2002-06-11 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Cisco no longer publishes this information because it changes so frequently.
You won't know until you actually sit for the exam.

Shawn K.

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> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:  CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]
> 
> Easy one! Does anyone know what the pass mark is for the new CCNA 640-607?
> I'm sure that I'll pass, but would feel better to know what I'm aiming
> for!
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Simon King




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Re: CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]

2002-06-11 Thread nospamplease

You should aim for 1000.  Why not do the best you can and not worry about
the scoring?

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> Easy one! Does anyone know what the pass mark is for the new CCNA 640-607?
> I'm sure that I'll pass, but would feel better to know what I'm aiming
for!
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Simon King




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CCNA Pass Mark? [7:46271]

2002-06-11 Thread Simon King

Easy one! Does anyone know what the pass mark is for the new CCNA 640-607?
I'm sure that I'll pass, but would feel better to know what I'm aiming for!


Thanks

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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-06-04 Thread Kris Keen

Multicasts in TR, hell yes.
Switch in 607? unsure, i got 1 question in the old 507 exam.
cop r st, definately not. I did Cisco's online sim tool and it marked me
wrong (wanted to see how they tested it!) so I'd say definately recommend
the full command.


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RE: Aspiring CCNA ( 640-507 ) [7:45654]

2002-06-03 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

www.examnotes.net  might be useful.







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Go to www.packetattack.com where you will find a free 60-question CCNA
640-607 practice exam.

Shawn K.

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> Hello to all,
>
> Can you help me, i am new I this field.
> I want to give CCNA ( 640-507 ) exam
>
> Can you just help me to locate the resources
> for CCNA on the web, I search a lot but most of the
> website are paid web site.
>
> I will be very greatful to you.
> Thanks you
>
>
> Regards-
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RE: Aspiring CCNA ( 640-507 ) [7:45654]

2002-06-03 Thread Kaminski, Shawn G

Go to www.packetattack.com where you will find a free 60-question CCNA
640-607 practice exam.

Shawn K.

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> Hello to all,
> 
> Can you help me, i am new I this field.
> I want to give CCNA ( 640-507 ) exam
> 
> Can you just help me to locate the resources
> for CCNA on the web, I search a lot but most of the
> website are paid web site.
> 
> I will be very greatful to you.
> Thanks you
> 
> 
> Regards-
> Rahul S. Salve
> 
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RE: Aspiring CCNA ( 640-507 ) [7:45654]

2002-06-03 Thread Ole Drews Jensen

FYI, they have a new 640-607 out.

Try these (watch for wordwrap):

http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/10/wwtraining/certprog/testing/current_exam
s/640-607.html

http://studyguides.cramsession.com/cramsession/cisco/default.asp?ID=1#

For what I did, click here:

http://www.routerchief.com/My-CCNA2.htm

Hth,

Ole

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Hello to all,

Can you help me, i am new I this field.
I want to give CCNA ( 640-507 ) exam

Can you just help me to locate the resources
for CCNA on the web, I search a lot but most of the
website are paid web site.

I will be very greatful to you.
Thanks you


Regards-
Rahul S. Salve



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Gulmohar Cross Road No.9 6400957 (R)
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Aspiring CCNA ( 640-507 ) [7:45654]

2002-06-03 Thread Rahul Salve

Hello to all,

Can you help me, i am new I this field.
I want to give CCNA ( 640-507 ) exam

Can you just help me to locate the resources
for CCNA on the web, I search a lot but most of the
website are paid web site.

I will be very greatful to you.
Thanks you


Regards-
Rahul S. Salve



National Centre For Software Tech.,   Tel:  6201606 Ext 348 (O)
Gulmohar Cross Road No.9 6400957 (R)
Juhu , Mumbai -400050






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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-06-01 Thread Kevin Cullimore

Back in 1999, most vendor certs were pretty intolerant regarding the use of
abbreviations in answers to "fill-in-the-blank" syntax questions. I suspect
that had more to do with limitations of the testing software and the
overwhelming desire to not compensate people for the effort required to
rectify the situation rather than an insistence that people type thousands
of more characters than they need to in order to do their job.

- Original Message -
From: "Priscilla Oppenheimer" 
To: 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: teaching CCNA [7:45489]


> I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro
class
> before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's "Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607
> Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have
some
> questions, however:
>
> Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail.
> Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not
> planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab
> probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has
> Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
>
> Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation
> questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run
> start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?
>
> Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know
> IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know that many Token Ring
> NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would
> have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for
> multicast by now.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Priscilla
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Nemeth)

On Oct 20,  5:38pm, "Priscilla Oppenheimer" wrote:
}
} Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. 
} Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not 
} planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab 
} probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has 
} Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??

 Other's have mentioned the importance of this and I would just
like to echo them.  I see too many people that think they know ethernet
when in fact they don't know much at all.  An introduction to things
like STP, VTP, VLANs, etc. is very important.

} Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation 
} questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run 
} start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?

 Just to nitpick, this is still an abbrevation.  The full command
is "copy system:running-config nvram:startup-config".

} Token Ring doesn't support multicast???? (He says this many times.) I know 

 This is CCNA.  It still uses class based addressing...

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RE: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Robert Kulagowski

I ended up taking the 607 test twice (test crashed the first time after I
completed it and the score report was nothing but uninterpreted PCL code)
and neither time did I have any questions which specifically related to the
Cat 1900.

The router simulator does allow you to use abbreviations.  Just not the ones
from IOS 11.x :)

Something that I thought was interesting was that they even managed to make
it "slow".  Even though I was on a PIII, when it came time to save, it still
took a few seconds to "build the configuration", just like you'd find on an
old 2500.





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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Steven A. Ridder

Pricilla,

I was a technical author for a new CCNA book, and they had the Cat 1900 as
well.  I think it does cover the Cat 1900.

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> Priscilla,
>  I'm fairly certain that you will need to know
> something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been
> teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and
> we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco
> consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches.
>
> We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout
> Sem II & Sem III which utilises this equipment.
>
> This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the
> 'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical
> question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ?
> You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within
> 15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to
> get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900
> is menu driven but you can drop out to command line
> mode, which I would recommend.
>
> Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably
> wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the
> software. It may well have been lifted from the source
> code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to
> the full command just in case.
>
> Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just
> mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v
> 802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go
> into any real detail.
>
> There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI
> model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access
> Control Lists and Hands on Config experience.
>
>
> Phil.
>
>  --- Priscilla Oppenheimer
> wrote: > I will be teaching a CCNA class next week.
> I've
> > never taught an intro class
> > before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's
> > "Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607
> > Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm
> > fine with it. I have some
> > questions, however:
> >
> > Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite
> > a bit of detail.
> > Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include
> > this, so I'm not
> > planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a
> > switch in the lab
> > probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the
> > 640-607 test has
> > Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
> >
> > Does anyone know if the test (which now includes
> > router simulation
> > questions) allows one to use abbreviations for
> > commands? (such as cop run
> > start instead of copy running-config
> > startup-config)?
> >
> > Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says
> > this many times.) I know
> > IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know
> > that many Token Ring
> > NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't
> > they fix that??? I would
> > have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have
> > added support for
> > multicast by now.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > Priscilla
> >
> > 
> >
> > Priscilla Oppenheimer
> > http://www.priscilla.com
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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-31 Thread Phil Barker

Priscilla,
 I'm fairly certain that you will need to know
something about the Cat 1900 switch. I've been
teaching CCNA as a CCAI for a couple of months now and
we have a rack of equipment purchased from Cisco
consisting of 5 x Cisco 2500's and 2 x 1900 switches.

We have a Lab Topology setup that is used throughout
Sem II & Sem III which utilises this equipment.

This lab Setup is the very same that appears in the
'diagram' questions on the #640-607. A typical
question would be 'Host A cannot see Host E' Why ?
You then have to diagnose the diagram/network within
15 minutes using Cisco IOS or clicking on the PC to
get its config or clicking on the switch etc. The 1900
is menu driven but you can drop out to command line
mode, which I would recommend.

Not sure if you can use abbreviations. Probably
wouldn't risk it bacause of possible typo bugs in the
software. It may well have been lifted from the source
code of the IOS and cross-compiled, but I'd stick to
the full command just in case.

Token Ring hasn't been covered in any detail. Just
mention it in comparison to Ethernet i.e 802.5 v
802.3, deterministic v non-deterministic but don't go
into any real detail.

There still looking for the core knowledge being OSI
model compared to TCP/IP (Yuk), subnetting, Access
Control Lists and Hands on Config experience.


Phil.

 --- Priscilla Oppenheimer 
wrote: > I will be teaching a CCNA class next week.
I've
> never taught an intro class 
> before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's
> "Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607 
> Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm
> fine with it. I have some 
> questions, however:
> 
> Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite
> a bit of detail. 
> Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include
> this, so I'm not 
> planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a
> switch in the lab 
> probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the
> 640-607 test has 
> Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
> 
> Does anyone know if the test (which now includes
> router simulation 
> questions) allows one to use abbreviations for
> commands? (such as cop run 
> start instead of copy running-config
> startup-config)?
> 
> Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says
> this many times.) I know 
> IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know
> that many Token Ring 
> NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't
> they fix that??? I would 
> have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have
> added support for 
> multicast by now.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Priscilla
> 
> 
> 
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com
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RE: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-30 Thread Andy Barkl

I have been teaching the CCNA classes for 3 years and I have always used
the Sybex book which has a corresponding Router Simulator product.
I also took the new 607 exam when it was released and provided an
article on my findings. :)
http://www.tcpmag.com/column.asp?id=EXAM&cid=152

Good luck.


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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro
class 
before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's "Cisco CCNA Exam
#640-607 
Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have
some 
questions, however:

Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail. 
Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not 
planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab 
probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has 
Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??

Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation 
questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop
run 
start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?

Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I
know 
IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know that many Token
Ring 
NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I
would 
have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for 
multicast by now.

Thanks!

Priscilla



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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-30 Thread Chuck

""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro
class
> before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's "Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607
> Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have
some
> questions, however:
>
> Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail.
> Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not
> planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab
> probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has
> Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
>
> Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation
> questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run
> start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?
>
> Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know
> IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know that many Token Ring
> NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would
> have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for
> multicast by now.


CL: what token ring vendors? ;->



>
> Thanks!
>
> Priscilla
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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Re: teaching CCNA [7:45489]

2002-05-30 Thread Dain Deutschman

Hi Priscilla,

I used that book amoung others for the exam that I took recently. I did not
run into any switch configuration command questions on the test...only
switching theory..but that does not mean someone else might not get a
question like that. I guess it's my opinion that studying switch configs on
paper is sufficient for the CCNA exam. Although Odom goes into more detail
on many topics than is necessary for the exam...I'm glad I studied the
topics because it is helping me see the bigger picture as I study for the
BSCN exam.

In regards to the router sim...it does allow abbr. I used copy run start,
Ctrl+Z and en. However, the simulation is rather buggy. I had trouble
"telnetting" to the routers in the simulation. After trying various things
for about 15 minutes it finally worked. Also...it did not save my
configuration completely so I had to re-enter and do a copy run start a
couple of times.

I'm not sure about the Token Ring thing. Hope that helps.

Dain Deutschman
CNA, MCP, CCNA
Data Communications Manager
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""Priscilla Oppenheimer""  wrote in message
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> I will be teaching a CCNA class next week. I've never taught an intro
class
> before. ;-) The textbook will be Wendell Odom's "Cisco CCNA Exam #640-607
> Certification Guide." I didn't choose it, but I'm fine with it. I have
some
> questions, however:
>
> Wendell covers Catalyst 1900 configuration in quite a bit of detail.
> Cisco's list of topics for 640-607 doesn't include this, so I'm not
> planning to teach it, and in fact, we won't have a switch in the lab
> probably. Will this be OK? Does anyone know if the 640-607 test has
> Catalyst 1900 configuration questions??
>
> Does anyone know if the test (which now includes router simulation
> questions) allows one to use abbreviations for commands? (such as cop run
> start instead of copy running-config startup-config)?
>
> Token Ring doesn't support multicast (He says this many times.) I know
> IEEE 802.5 does "officially" support it. I also know that many Token Ring
> NICs didn't support it in the early 1990s. Didn't they fix that??? I would
> have thought that Token Ring NIC vendors would have added support for
> multicast by now.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Priscilla
>
> 
>
> Priscilla Oppenheimer
> http://www.priscilla.com




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