Re: ccna question [7:15958]
In the version of the BCMSN course I took Cisco state that the emerging campus network has moved away from the 80% local, 20% cross networks model to the 20% local 80% on other networks. As Chuck commented Cisco expect you to give the Cisco-approved answer. Having said that your test will be multiple choice so I wouldn't lose too much sleep on this. It is like the question asking what routing protocol is suitable for a 'medium sized' network. I think that it's absolute nonsense on its own but the principles are sound. -Jim ""Chuck Larrieu"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local > and 30 non-local? > > I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue > design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp > 26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > > Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that > Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real > world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > > Chuck > > > > -Original Message- > From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM > To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is > 70/30. ;-) > HTH > Albert > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Chuck Larrieu > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the > moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest > question and that you were entitled to an answer. > > 80/20 or 70/30 what? > > are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be > local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > > I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I > believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. > Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all > have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages > by the wayside. > > to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. > I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > > Chuck > > Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) > McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) > Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Manjunath Shivaramaiah > Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > > hi > i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in > braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this > regard... > I'm taking ccna exam shortly > > thanks > > manjunath.s [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18857&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
Well, your configuration seem to miss something. Make sure that from one router, you can ping the IP address of the serial port of the other router. This will make sure that your frame-relay setting is working. If you cannot ping the serial of the other router, make sure you put "no keepalive" on the serial interface of each router. Assign DLCI number to the serial port and map the PVC using "frame-relay map..." RIPv1 (or RIP) does not support VLSM (variable length subnet mask), which is classless address. When you put: Router RIP network 192.168.0.0 It will automatically summarize the network to be 192.168.0.0 / 24, which none of your networks belongs to. If you run latest IOS, you can use RIPv2, which allows you to turn off the Auto-Summary. To enable RIP version 2, configure both routers as follow: Router RIP version 2 network 192.168.0.0 no auto-summary Good luck! ""xie rootstock"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > sorry, my last posting is wrong, you should set network 192.168.100.0, not > network 192.168.0.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18755&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
sorry, my last posting is wrong, you should set network 192.168.100.0, not network 192.168.0.0 Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18659&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
check you rip, is there a command passive-interface is used?[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: > > RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 > RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 > setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 > RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 > setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this > number setup > wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine > and see each > other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the > other > networks...what am I doing wrong? > > thank you all > > Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18654&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
RIP is a classful protocol, and so assigns each network statement a mask based on the first octet of the statement. So 192.168.x.x is automatically a class C network since its first octet starts in the Class C range. Try putting each class C in the configuration with the network statement, 192.168.254.0, 192.168.100.0, and 192.168.50.0. The statement "network 192.168.0.0" says that only interfaces within the 192.168.0.1-254 range are participating in RIP. Hope this solves the problem. Guy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:39 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572] I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this number setup wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine and see each other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the other networks...what am I doing wrong? thank you all Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18575&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
You have to announce classfull networks in RIPv1 : for router A : router rip network 192.168.254.0 for router B : router rip network 192.168.50.0 if it doesn't work with this, try debug ip rip -- Stephane LITKOWSKI Student in a french computer science school EPITA Telecom & Network specialization CISCO Certified Network Associate EMail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] a icrit dans le message news: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: > > RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 > RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 > setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 > RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 > setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip > network 192.168.0.0 > > My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this number setup > wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine and see each > other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the other > networks...what am I doing wrong? > > thank you all Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18574&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA question with routing setup [7:18572]
I have 2 2501 routers setup as follows: RouterA eth0 with 192.168.254.1/24 RouterA serial 0 with 192.168.100/24 setup as DTE, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 RouterB eth0 with 192.168.50.1/24 RouterB serial 0 with 192.168.100.11/24 setup as DCE, clock rate 64000, no shutdown, router rip network 192.168.0.0 My problem is it won't see any of the networks...do I have this number setup wrong? when I setup a static IP ROUTE..the networks work fine and see each other its just with RIP for some reason is unable to see the other networks...what am I doing wrong? thank you all Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=18572&t=18572 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna question [7:15958]
Don't forget "Marcus of Queensbury" rules T - Original Message - From: "Chuck Larrieu" To: Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 8:53 AM Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > next generation test questions: > > when designing a network, CCNAs should pay particular attention to > > a) the 80/20 rule > b) the 70/30 rule > c) the 50/50 rule > d) rule Britannia > > at what layer of the OSI model does the 70/30 rule operate? > > a) layer 1, because it relates to what bits are where on the wire > b) layer 2, because the bits are organized into frames, which use mac > addresses > c) layer 3, because the 70/30 rule refers to network layer design > d) layer 7, because a CCNA needs to apply his/her/its study to real world > situations > > the 70/30 rule is > > a) the result of extensive study which revealed that the 80/20 rule was in > error > b) the absolute measure of good design > c) the ratio of tab to tip when dining at a fine restaurant > d) Moises Alou's eyesight metric > > hope I get my CCIE before I have to recertify for my CCNA! :-> > > Chuck > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Priscilla Oppenheimer > Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) > > There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of > traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This > really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of > Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge > amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and > remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and > Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so > far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is > non-local. > > You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a > number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what > Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is > non-local? > > Priscilla > > At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: > >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local > >and 30 non-local? > > > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue > >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp > >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > > > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that > >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real > >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > > > >Chuck > > > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM > >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is > >70/30. ;-) > >HTH > >Albert > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > >Chuck Larrieu > >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > > > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the > >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest > >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > > > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > > > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be > >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > > > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I > >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. > >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all > >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic > percentages > >by the wayside. > > > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably > stole. > >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > > > >Chuck > > > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) > >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
next generation test questions: when designing a network, CCNAs should pay particular attention to a) the 80/20 rule b) the 70/30 rule c) the 50/50 rule d) rule Britannia at what layer of the OSI model does the 70/30 rule operate? a) layer 1, because it relates to what bits are where on the wire b) layer 2, because the bits are organized into frames, which use mac addresses c) layer 3, because the 70/30 rule refers to network layer design d) layer 7, because a CCNA needs to apply his/her/its study to real world situations the 70/30 rule is a) the result of extensive study which revealed that the 80/20 rule was in error b) the absolute measure of good design c) the ratio of tab to tip when dining at a fine restaurant d) Moises Alou's eyesight metric hope I get my CCIE before I have to recertify for my CCNA! :-> Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16296&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
Probably will contain as much technobabble as that *other* Next Generation... ;-) -Original Message- From: Chuck Larrieu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 2:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] I can hardly wait to see the next generation of test questions ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16064&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
I can hardly wait to see the next generation of test questions ;-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Priscilla Oppenheimer Sent: Tuesday, August 14, 2001 9:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] 70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16060&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
70/30? Who made that one up!?! ;-) There's no exact number of course, but folk wisdom was always 80/20. 80% of traffic stays local and 20% goes to a different part of the network. This really got blown out of the water in the last 4-5 years because of Intranets with corporate servers located centrally in server farms, a huge amount of traffic heading out the door to the Internet, VPN and remote-access traffic flowing back in the other way, a lot of AppleTalk and Novell departmental servers being outlawed, etc. Some people have gone so far as to say the equation has switched. 20% is local now and 80% is non-local. You would have to check traffic flows and volume on your own network for a number you could really use. I have never seen 70/30. Is that really what Cisco expects you to learn now? And which do they say is local and which is non-local? Priscilla At 12:42 AM 8/14/01, you wrote: >is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local >and 30 non-local? > >I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue >design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp >26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture > wow! ), pages 35 and 575. > >Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that >Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real >world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. > >Chuck > > > >-Original Message- >From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM >To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is >70/30. ;-) >HTH >Albert > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Chuck Larrieu >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] > > >much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the >moderator's queue (x is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest >question and that you were entitled to an answer. > >80/20 or 70/30 what? > >are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be >local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? > >I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I >believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. >Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all >have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages >by the wayside. > >to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. >I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. > >Chuck > >Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) >McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) >Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) > >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of >Manjunath Shivaramaiah >Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: ccna question [7:15958] > > >hi >i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in >x and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this >regard... >I'm taking ccna exam shortly > >thanks > >manjunath.s Priscilla Oppenheimer http://www.priscilla.com Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=16050&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
I read that it's 80/20 with 80 percent being non local and the rest on the local. Vlans seem to a lot to do with this. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 8:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15970&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
is that 80 local 20 non-local? with Cisco revising the number to 70 local and 30 non-local? I refer to Priscilla Oppenheimer's Top Down Network Design ( don't argue design without it :-> ) pp 20-21, the CID book written by Robert Padjen, pp 26-27, and Howard Berkowitz's Designing routing and Switching Architecture wow! ), pages 35 and 575. Yes by all means learn the Cisco answer for the tests. Just remember that Cisco tests in certain respects are not particularly reflective of the real world, as at least three eminent real world experts indicate. Chuck -Original Message- From: Albert Y. Pak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 9:03 PM To: Chuck Larrieu; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is 70/30. ;-) HTH Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15969&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
The current theory is 80/20. However, to pass CCNA exam, the answer is 70/30. ;-) HTH Albert -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Chuck Larrieu Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 11:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: ccna question [7:15958] much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15968&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: ccna question [7:15958]
much as I hate to pass this one, because every response will hit the moderator's queue (braindump is a forbidden word), I thought this an honest question and that you were entitled to an answer. 80/20 or 70/30 what? are you referring to the old "80 percent of your LAN traffic should be local, and 20 percent should be non-local" rule of good design? I haven't seen the recent Cisco study materials, but from other reading, I believe that current theory is that you can't go by this rule any longer. Internet access, shared services, centralized server farms, intranets, all have kinda blown all this local traffic versus non-local traffic percentages by the wayside. to transform a phrase of Brian Eno's - the one Scott McNealy probably stole. I know I sure did - the world is now the LAN. Chuck Eno: the recording studio is my synthesizer ( circa 1980 ) McNealy: the network is the computer ( circa 1996 ) Me: the telco network is the central office ( circa 1990 ) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Manjunath Shivaramaiah Sent: Monday, August 13, 2001 7:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: ccna question [7:15958] hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15962&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ccna question [7:15958]
hi i have a doubt regarding lan design in ciscoIt is 80/20 or70/30 ..in braindumps and 604-407 books it says it is 70/30...pl help me in this regard... I'm taking ccna exam shortly thanks manjunath.s Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=15958&t=15958 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA Question [7:10756]
HI ALL: Any body have ccan past paper?? if have can you send to my e-mail thx a lot Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10756&t=10756 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA QUESTION [7:10755]
HI ALL: Have any body have ccna Question? Can you send to my e-mail address thx a lot Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=10755&t=10755 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: CCNA Question (welcome challenger) [7:637]
I'll bite, having nothing better to do tonight. 1) reload - the command is already in the config ;-> 2) each IP what? If you are intimating subnet mask, the ip header has no place for subnet mask. A routing protocol packet would carry that information. HTH Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2001 11:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: CCNA Question (welcome challenger) [7:637] Q1 You have just rebooted your router with a boot host or boot network command. What command would you type for your router to always boot like that from now on? Q2 If you are using CIDR, what must each IP carry with it ? FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=699&t=637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
CCNA Question (welcome challenger) [7:637]
Q1 You have just rebooted your router with a boot host or boot network command. What command would you type for your router to always boot like that from now on? Q2 If you are using CIDR, what must each IP carry with it ? Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=637&t=637 -- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: difficult ccna question
Well, your numbers are a little off, but the general idea is sound. With the way the question is worded, who knows exactly what the correct mask is. Other than the obvious, maybe we can assume that the questioner is adding 10 additional bits to the native classful mask of 255.255.0.0 for a class B network. This would produce a 255.255.255.192 mask. Now for the math. With 192 in the last octet, this leaves 6 bits for hosts 2^6 = 64 - 2 (don't forget this part!) = 62 usable host addresses You also now have 10 bits for subnetting (additional to the native classful mask) So, 2^10 = 1024 - 2 (don't forget this part here either!) = 1022 usable subnets Notice we can use the same simple formula ( 2^n-2) to find both the number of usable host addresses and subnets. One other thing to be aware of: each subnet ID, which is the first address in every subnet, always has an even number in the subnetted octet. In other words, the first "usable" subnet in the previously mentioned example should be 172.16.0.64. This is just a chracteristic of the process of subnettingsomething about always starting to count with a 0 instead of a 1 ;-} 172.16.0.0 - 172.16.0.63 172.16.0.64 - 172.16.0.127 172.16.0.128 - 172.16.0.191 172.16.0.192 - 172.16.0.255 etc., etc., etc you get the idea The website I think is a great resource for those just getting into TCP/IP is: http://www.learntosubnet.com/ Check it out! BTW: it is true that many legacy device/software won't recognize the first or last subnet. The first subnet, also called the "zero subnet", can be configured for use on Cisco devices with the "ip subnet-zero" command. Although not every vendor supports doing this, I would guess that a vast majority of them do. It was only a short time ago when this was not the case. I can remember when NT 4.0 would not support this. It probably does now, with service packs and all, but it didn't always. Rik "Joshua Beining" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64. > Therefore 64 is your first subnet. To get the second subnet, add 64 to the > first subnet. To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on. > Continue in this fashion until you reach 192. Remember that you cannot use > the ranges 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193 - 172.16.255.254 > (network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do > so. > > Subnet Host Range > 1 172.16.0.65 - 172.16.0.126 > 2 172.16.0.129 - 172.16.0.190 > 3 172.16.0.193 - 172.16.0.254 > 4 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.62 > 5 172.16.1.65 - 172.16.1.126 > 6 172.16.1.129 - 172.16.1.190 > 7 172.16.1.193 - 172.16.1.254 > 8 172.16.2.1 - 172.16.2.62 > 9 172.16.2.65 - 172.16.2.126 >10 172.16.2.129 - 172.16.2.190 > . > . > . > . > . > . > > 1015 172.16.253.193 - 172.16.253.254 > 1016 172.16.254.1 - 172.16.254.62 > 1017 172.16.254.65 - 172.16.254.126 > 1018 172.16.254.129 - 172.16.254.190 > 1019 172.16.254.193 - 172.16.254.254 > 1020 172.16.255.1 - 172.16.255.62 > 1021 172.16.255.65 - 172.16.255.126 > 1022 172.16.255.129 - 172.16.255.190 > > -Joshua > -Original Message- > From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: difficult ccna question > > > how do you know where the first subnet begins? > > >>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>> > Just remember the following fomulas: > > (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets > (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts > > Based on this the correct answer is A. > > -Original Message- > From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: difficult ccna question > > > if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and > how many hosts do you have? > > a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts > b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts > c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts > d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult ccna question
Can you give examples of OSs that don't support all ones? -Original Message- From: Joshua Beining [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 2:44 PM To: 'David A. Lauer' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Technically yes. But like most things you cannot get something for free. There is a price for subnetting which is that you loose the first subnet (network - all zeros) and the last subnet (broadcast - all ones). Note that with some routers you can configure them to use these subnets. But be careful, because some OS's and devices do not react well to using then. HTH. -Joshua -Original Message- From: David A. Lauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Wouldn't the first subnet be 172.16.0.0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Beining Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:43 AM To: 'Lowell Sharrah' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64. Therefore 64 is your first subnet. To get the second subnet, add 64 to the first subnet. To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on. Continue in this fashion until you reach 192. Remember that you cannot use the ranges 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193 - 172.16.255.254 (network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do so. Subnet Host Range 1 172.16.0.65 - 172.16.0.126 2 172.16.0.129 - 172.16.0.190 3 172.16.0.193 - 172.16.0.254 4 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.62 5 172.16.1.65 - 172.16.1.126 6 172.16.1.129 - 172.16.1.190 7 172.16.1.193 - 172.16.1.254 8 172.16.2.1 - 172.16.2.62 9 172.16.2.65 - 172.16.2.126 10 172.16.2.129 - 172.16.2.190 . . . . . . 1015 172.16.253.193 - 172.16.253.254 1016 172.16.254.1 - 172.16.254.62 1017 172.16.254.65 - 172.16.254.126 1018 172.16.254.129 - 172.16.254.190 1019 172.16.254.193 - 172.16.254.254 1020 172.16.255.1 - 172.16.255.62 1021 172.16.255.65 - 172.16.255.126 1022 172.16.255.129 - 172.16.255.190 -Joshua -Original Message- From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question how do you know where the first subnet begins? >>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>> Just remember the following fomulas: (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts Based on this the correct answer is A. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: difficult ccna question if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult ccna question
Technically yes. But like most things you cannot get something for free. There is a price for subnetting which is that you loose the first subnet (network - all zeros) and the last subnet (broadcast - all ones). Note that with some routers you can configure them to use these subnets. But be careful, because some OS's and devices do not react well to using then. HTH. -Joshua -Original Message- From: David A. Lauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Wouldn't the first subnet be 172.16.0.0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Beining Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:43 AM To: 'Lowell Sharrah' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64. Therefore 64 is your first subnet. To get the second subnet, add 64 to the first subnet. To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on. Continue in this fashion until you reach 192. Remember that you cannot use the ranges 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193 - 172.16.255.254 (network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do so. Subnet Host Range 1 172.16.0.65 - 172.16.0.126 2 172.16.0.129 - 172.16.0.190 3 172.16.0.193 - 172.16.0.254 4 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.62 5 172.16.1.65 - 172.16.1.126 6 172.16.1.129 - 172.16.1.190 7 172.16.1.193 - 172.16.1.254 8 172.16.2.1 - 172.16.2.62 9 172.16.2.65 - 172.16.2.126 10 172.16.2.129 - 172.16.2.190 . . . . . . 1015 172.16.253.193 - 172.16.253.254 1016 172.16.254.1 - 172.16.254.62 1017 172.16.254.65 - 172.16.254.126 1018 172.16.254.129 - 172.16.254.190 1019 172.16.254.193 - 172.16.254.254 1020 172.16.255.1 - 172.16.255.62 1021 172.16.255.65 - 172.16.255.126 1022 172.16.255.129 - 172.16.255.190 -Joshua -Original Message- From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question how do you know where the first subnet begins? >>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>> Just remember the following fomulas: (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts Based on this the correct answer is A. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: difficult ccna question if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult ccna question
Wouldn't the first subnet be 172.16.0.0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Joshua Beining Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 11:43 AM To: 'Lowell Sharrah' Cc: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: difficult ccna question Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64. Therefore 64 is your first subnet. To get the second subnet, add 64 to the first subnet. To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on. Continue in this fashion until you reach 192. Remember that you cannot use the ranges 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193 - 172.16.255.254 (network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do so. Subnet Host Range 1 172.16.0.65 - 172.16.0.126 2 172.16.0.129 - 172.16.0.190 3 172.16.0.193 - 172.16.0.254 4 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.62 5 172.16.1.65 - 172.16.1.126 6 172.16.1.129 - 172.16.1.190 7 172.16.1.193 - 172.16.1.254 8 172.16.2.1 - 172.16.2.62 9 172.16.2.65 - 172.16.2.126 10 172.16.2.129 - 172.16.2.190 . . . . . . 1015 172.16.253.193 - 172.16.253.254 1016 172.16.254.1 - 172.16.254.62 1017 172.16.254.65 - 172.16.254.126 1018 172.16.254.129 - 172.16.254.190 1019 172.16.254.193 - 172.16.254.254 1020 172.16.255.1 - 172.16.255.62 1021 172.16.255.65 - 172.16.255.126 1022 172.16.255.129 - 172.16.255.190 -Joshua -Original Message- From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question how do you know where the first subnet begins? >>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>> Just remember the following fomulas: (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts Based on this the correct answer is A. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: difficult ccna question if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult ccna question
Based on the subnet mask (255.255.192.0) subtract 256 from 192 which is 64. Therefore 64 is your first subnet. To get the second subnet, add 64 to the first subnet. To get the third add 64 to the second subnet and so on. Continue in this fashion until you reach 192. Remember that you cannot use the ranges 172.16.0.1 - 172.16.0.62 and 172.16.255.193 - 172.16.255.254 (network and broadcast respectively) unless your router is configured to do so. Subnet Host Range 1 172.16.0.65 - 172.16.0.126 2 172.16.0.129 - 172.16.0.190 3 172.16.0.193 - 172.16.0.254 4 172.16.1.1 - 172.16.1.62 5 172.16.1.65 - 172.16.1.126 6 172.16.1.129 - 172.16.1.190 7 172.16.1.193 - 172.16.1.254 8 172.16.2.1 - 172.16.2.62 9 172.16.2.65 - 172.16.2.126 10 172.16.2.129 - 172.16.2.190 . . . . . . 1015 172.16.253.193 - 172.16.253.254 1016 172.16.254.1 - 172.16.254.62 1017 172.16.254.65 - 172.16.254.126 1018 172.16.254.129 - 172.16.254.190 1019 172.16.254.193 - 172.16.254.254 1020 172.16.255.1 - 172.16.255.62 1021 172.16.255.65 - 172.16.255.126 1022 172.16.255.129 - 172.16.255.190 -Joshua -Original Message- From: Lowell Sharrah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 8:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: difficult ccna question how do you know where the first subnet begins? >>> Joshua Beining <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03/22/01 10:34AM >>> Just remember the following fomulas: (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts Based on this the correct answer is A. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: difficult ccna question if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult ccna question
Just remember the following fomulas: (2^# of masked bits) - 2 = Total # of subnets (2^# of unmasked bits - 2 = Total # of hosts Based on this the correct answer is A. -Original Message- From: George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2001 12:16 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: difficult ccna question if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: difficult CCNA question
Class be is a 255.255.0.0 with 10 subnet bit ( bits over and above the default mask) is a 255.255.255.192 that is host portions of 62 ip addresses ( 64 available IPs less broadcast and networks address) Therefore answer is A -Original Message- From: Larry Osei-Kwaku [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 22 March 2001 11:56 To: George; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: difficult ccna question George, you will find answers here http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302s.html cheers Larry --- George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet > mask, how many subnet and > how many hosts do you have? > > a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts > b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts > c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts > d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = "Wear a smile and have friends; wear a scowl and have wrinkles." - George Eliot "the greatest glory is not in never falling, but rising up each time we fall." "The greatest man is not he who does not fall but he who falls and rises again to win" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: difficult ccna question
George, you will find answers here http://www.3com.com/nsc/501302s.html cheers Larry --- George <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet > mask, how many subnet and > how many hosts do you have? > > a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts > b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts > c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts > d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > = "Wear a smile and have friends; wear a scowl and have wrinkles." - George Eliot "the greatest glory is not in never falling, but rising up each time we fall." "The greatest man is not he who does not fall but he who falls and rises again to win" __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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if you have a class B network with a 10-bit subnet mask, how many subnet and how many hosts do you have? a. 1022 subnets, 62 hosts b. 62 subnets, 8190 hosts c. 8190 subnets, 254 hosts d. 254 subnets , 126 hosts _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA question
By default IP split-horizon is disabled on a frame-relay physical IP interface, enabled on a frame-relay point-to-point IP subinterface, and enabled on a frame-relay multipoint IP subinterface. Caslow's book has a good chapter on this. Julie Stewart - Original Message - From: "Jose Rodriguez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Newsgroups: groupstudy.cisco To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 11:18 PM Subject: CCNA question > Hello, > > I wanted to ask what were the defaults for split horizon on frame relay. I > thought that split horizon was disabled on > > 1) FR interfaces without sub-ifs > 2) FR multipoint interfaces > > and enabled on > > 1) FR point to point interfaces > > -- > > Jose Rodriguez > > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hello, I wanted to ask what were the defaults for split horizon on frame relay. I thought that split horizon was disabled on 1) FR interfaces without sub-ifs 2) FR multipoint interfaces and enabled on 1) FR point to point interfaces -- Jose Rodriguez _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Does anyone knows any good liks with the CCNA practice question? _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna question
For simulation test use the following links. www.measureup.com - 10 demo questions www.techmindworks.com - 15/30 demo questions www.boson.com - 36 demo questions www.cert21.com - quite some questions www.sureshhomepage.com/tests/CCNA.htm - quite some questions www.angelfire.com/az2/examslam/index.html - good collections of qs. _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ccna question
No problem, Try http://www.gdd.net/cisco/ccna Good luck on your test! Clayton Dukes Internetwork Solutions Engineer Internetwork Management Engineer Thrupoint, Inc. CCNA, CCDA, CCDP, CCNP SunCSA, Etc. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 5:12 PM Subject: ccna question > does anyone knows where i can find some test questions to practice for my > ccna507 > > _ > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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does anyone knows where i can find some test questions to practice for my ccna507 _ FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Please folks if you have a CCNA question
or post it to the new associates list/group instead of this one :) Natasha wrote: > > Put (CCNA) in the header. > Many of use email filters based on headers. > The same for CCIE etc. > Thank you -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lauren Child, BSc. CCNP-ATM & CCDP Certified http://www.laurenchild.net/ http://www.routerfaq.net/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Put (CCNA) in the header. Many of use email filters based on headers. The same for CCIE etc. Thank you -- Natasha Flazynski http://www.ciscobot.com My Cisco information site. http://www.botbuilders.com Artificial Intelligence and Linux development A bus station is where a bus stops. A train station is where a train stops. On my desk, I have a work station... **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: CCNA Question
FWIW, I completed MCSE and CCNP without the benefit of classroom training. It depends on how you learn best and how motivated you are. For CCNP, I prepared for CCIE and took each of the tests as I felt comfortable. The only time I failed (Switching) was when I jumped the gun and took it to meet the beta deadline as opposed to when I was REALLY ready. Missed by < 1 question, darnit. I have used the Caslow and Doyle books to supplement Cisco's web site and hands on. HTH, Casey >From: "Jeff Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Jeff Martinez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: CCNA Question >Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2000 09:33:15 -0500 > >I'm planning on taking the CCNA test and later to CCNP. Although I never >took any CISCO classes, I have hands on experience. Is there perquisites? >Where do I take the exam, Sylvan? Is it all questions for both the CCNA >and >CCNP? > >Jeff >MCSE > > >**NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to >http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html >_ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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regarding perquisites, cisco used to give you a t-shirt and a leather wallet, but now, they just give you a diploma and a wallet card. good luck, igor --- Jeff Martinez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I'm planning on taking the CCNA test and later to > CCNP. Although I never > took any CISCO classes, I have hands on experience. > Is there perquisites? > Where do I take the exam, Sylvan? Is it all > questions for both the CCNA and > CCNP? > > Jeff > MCSE > > > **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more > information go to > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html > _ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: > http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: > http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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I'm planning on taking the CCNA test and later to CCNP. Although I never took any CISCO classes, I have hands on experience. Is there perquisites? Where do I take the exam, Sylvan? Is it all questions for both the CCNA and CCNP? Jeff MCSE **NOTE: New CCNA/CCDA List has been formed. For more information go to http://www.groupstudy.com/list/Associates.html _ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Hhhmmm. birds of a feather? ;->
Chuck
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Funny, My favorite has always been 2321.
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My favorites are 1149 and 2549 :->
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>Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances
>are its a protocol.
>Karen E Young>
So we're at risk of coffee pot design and selection criteria showing up on
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RE: a ccna question-help
Funny, My favorite has always been 2321. Karen E Young Network Engineer ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Chuck Larrieu" To: "Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dsl.com> cc: Sent by: Subject: RE: a ccna question-help nobody@groups tudy.com 07/28/00 04:48 PM Please respond to "Chuck Larrieu" My favorites are 1149 and 2549 :-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: a ccna question-help Karen Young writes: >Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances >are its a protocol. >Karen E Young> So we're at risk of coffee pot design and selection criteria showing up on an exam? ;-) Drew M. Mooney Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Nah! But you might see it on a Solaris exam. After all, Java is their thing... :-) Karen E Young Network Engineer ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: a ccna question-help Sent by: nobody@groupstu dy.com 07/28/00 03:17 PM Please respond to Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 Karen Young writes: >Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances >are its a protocol. >Karen E Young> So we're at risk of coffee pot design and selection criteria showing up on an exam? ;-) Drew M. Mooney Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Physical layer (was Re: a ccna question-help)
Four of the five (well, FR in some new specs for things like inverse multiplexing) deal with the physical layer. Do remember, however, that the original OSI definitions of layering came from a telephony/WAN perspective, and did not consider LANs. Their physical layer specification is, indeed, a protocol. Most physical layer specifications do not actually define the characteristics of the medium, although they do make assumptions about the medium. But specifying the pulse shapes, clocking, etc., certainly is a protocol about how to use the medium. Data link protocols, among other things, deal with the interactions of multiple devices on a shared medium. Physical protocols deal with the interactions of single devices with a medium. For example, RS-232, RS-422/423, V.35, 10BaseT, 10Base5... Medium specifications deal with the medium itself. Media are less likely to be standardized by the same bodies that generate higher-layer protocol specifications. >From: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: a ccna question-help >Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:15:49 -0500 > >It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say >ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. > >I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. > >The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says >"protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically >protocols. > >Ed > > > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > > select the connect-oriented protocols: > > 1.ATM > > 2.TOKEN RING > > 3.FDDI > > 4.Ethernet > > 5.FrameRelay > > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Smart alec! :-> I think your answers make my point - the practice test world is filled with this kind of confusion. Which goes a long way towards explaining the appreciation I for one have for the folks here who's insight is well worth reading. Chuck -Original Message- From: ElephantChild [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 29, 2000 12:05 AM To: Chuck Larrieu Cc: Dale Holmes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: a ccna question-help I don't see what problem you have with these questions. On Fri, 28 Jul 2000, Chuck Larrieu wrote: > For example, is it an OSPF database, or an OSPF table? Yes. > Is UDP layer 4 or layer 7 Yes > Is ethernet connection oriented or connectionless? Yes > Is Cisco frame relay standards based or proprietary? Yes -- Bungee jumping and skydiving are for wimps. If you want to experience true gut-wrenching terror, have children. --Dusty Rhoades. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Dale, this is the dark side of the certification frenzy. Too many places hiring too many people to write too many practice tests using too many sources with accurate and inaccurate information, not to mention inadequate understanding. The result is much confusion. For example, is it an OSPF database, or an OSPF table? Is UDP layer 4 or layer 7 ( as I have seen argued ) Is ethernet connection oriented or connectionless? Is Cisco frame relay standards based or proprietary? ( saw that question on one of the Boson tests ) All anyone can do is study the material, and if confused ask the question. Lord knows I've sure had a lot of my own confusion cleared up by following topics just like this one. Chuck -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Dale Holmes Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 1:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: a ccna question-help Wow - what a crappy question! Where did you find it? It really confuses the issue to say "connection-oriented" with respect to these specifications (except *maybe* ATM). For FDDI and Token Ring, it is better to say that they are "deterministic" (as opposed to "opportunistic" in the case of Ethernet). Consider a Token Ring. When a station wants to transmit data, it must first obtain the token. Once it does so, it can then transmit its data. The data frame traverses the ring, visiting every station on the ring. The destination station receives the data, then set the Address Recognized (AR) and Frame Copied (FC) bits, and then sends the data back out on the ring. The originating station will see it's own frame "coming back around" the ring, this time with the AR and FC bits set, and will strip the frame off the ring and release a new token. This process looks kinda "connection-oriented" - almost like a transmission (sending the data) and an acknowledgement (flipping the AR and FC bits), but it is really not the same thing (though some might argue that I am splitting hairs). At any rate, I say the question you got is poorly written at best... though sometimes the really bad questions force you down roads you otherwise would not have travelled, and you become more knowledgable as you prove the author an idiot... Who knows, I probably wrote that lousy question! >From: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: a ccna question-help >Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:15:49 -0500 > >It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say >ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. > >I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. > >The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says >"protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically >protocols. > >Ed > > > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > > select the connect-oriented protocols: > > 1.ATM > > 2.TOKEN RING > > 3.FDDI > > 4.Ethernet > > 5.FrameRelay > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
Ok I would have chosen atm frame relay anything you need to do mappings for I consider connection oriented . PQ Ed Moss wrote: > It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say > ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. > > I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. > > The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says > "protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically protocols. > > Ed > > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > > select the connect-oriented protocols: > > 1.ATM > > 2.TOKEN RING > > 3.FDDI > > 4.Ethernet > > 5.FrameRelay > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
My favorites are 1149 and 2549 :-> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mooney Drew-DMOONEY1 Sent: Friday, July 28, 2000 3:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: a ccna question-help Karen Young writes: >Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances >are its a protocol. >Karen E Young> So we're at risk of coffee pot design and selection criteria showing up on an exam? ;-) Drew M. Mooney Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Karen Young writes: >Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances >are its a protocol. >Karen E Young> So we're at risk of coffee pot design and selection criteria showing up on an exam? ;-) Drew M. Mooney Invisix -- Motorola and Cisco Together 1334-394 The Alameda // San Jose, CA 95126 408-525-0873 [office] 408-287-3188 [home] 817-937-7880 [mobile] 888-809-9678 [SkyTel Pager] +44-(0)7715-055-944 UK Mobile ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
They _are_ all protocols. ATM = Mostly Physical & Data Link but shows up in Network (encapsulation, signalling, transmission, etc) Token-Ring = LAN Physical & Data Link layer protocol (wiring, tokens) FDDI = Physical & Data LInk layer protocol (wiring, frame control & route information) Ethernet = LAN Physical & Data Link layer protocol (wiring, CSMA/CD) Frame Relay = WAN Data LInk layer protocol (think DLCI = Data Link Connection Identifier) Of course, you could look at it this way... If it has an RFC then chances are its a protocol. Karen E Young ELF Technologies, Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Desk: 206-770-4035 Pager: 206-994-4514 "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] m> cc: Sent by: Subject: Re: a ccna question-help nobody@groups tudy.com 07/28/00 12:15 PM Please respond to "Ed Moss" It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says "protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically protocols. Ed > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > select the connect-oriented protocols: > 1.ATM > 2.TOKEN RING > 3.FDDI > 4.Ethernet > 5.FrameRelay ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
Wow - what a crappy question! Where did you find it? It really confuses the issue to say "connection-oriented" with respect to these specifications (except *maybe* ATM). For FDDI and Token Ring, it is better to say that they are "deterministic" (as opposed to "opportunistic" in the case of Ethernet). Consider a Token Ring. When a station wants to transmit data, it must first obtain the token. Once it does so, it can then transmit its data. The data frame traverses the ring, visiting every station on the ring. The destination station receives the data, then set the Address Recognized (AR) and Frame Copied (FC) bits, and then sends the data back out on the ring. The originating station will see it's own frame "coming back around" the ring, this time with the AR and FC bits set, and will strip the frame off the ring and release a new token. This process looks kinda "connection-oriented" - almost like a transmission (sending the data) and an acknowledgement (flipping the AR and FC bits), but it is really not the same thing (though some might argue that I am splitting hairs). At any rate, I say the question you got is poorly written at best... though sometimes the really bad questions force you down roads you otherwise would not have travelled, and you become more knowledgable as you prove the author an idiot... Who knows, I probably wrote that lousy question! >From: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: "Ed Moss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: a ccna question-help >Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2000 14:15:49 -0500 > >It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say >ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. > >I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. > >The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says >"protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically >protocols. > >Ed > > > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > > select the connect-oriented protocols: > > 1.ATM > > 2.TOKEN RING > > 3.FDDI > > 4.Ethernet > > 5.FrameRelay > > > >___ >UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html >FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com >Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
It may be how you look at it... looking at "select the best answer" - I say ATM, Token Ring and FDDI. These require single point-to-point connections. I believe Ethernet and Frame Relay (NBMA) are multiaccess mediums. The question it self may be a bit confusing as well since it says "protocols". these are all physical mediums and not specifically protocols. Ed > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > select the connect-oriented protocols: > 1.ATM > 2.TOKEN RING > 3.FDDI > 4.Ethernet > 5.FrameRelay ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: a ccna question-help
Also: 5. Frame Relay (PVC's are connection-oriented) Roger -Original Message- From: Daniel Ma [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, July 26, 2000 11:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: a ccna question-help 1. ATM Zhang Jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Dear group, > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > select the connect-oriented protocols: > 1.ATM > 2.TOKEN RING > 3.FDDI > 4.Ethernet > 5.FrameRelay > > anyone can help me select the correct answer? > > thanks > > dean > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Connections and states (was Re: a ccna question-help)
>Dear group, > >I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: >select the connect-oriented protocols: >1.ATM >2.TOKEN RING >3.FDDI >4.Ethernet >5.FrameRelay > >anyone can help me select the correct answer? > >thanks > >dean I'll try to do as you ask, help you select the answer, rather than give you the answer. There is a subtle difference, which most exams don't observe, between connection orientation and statefulness. In connection orientation, there is a distinct setup phase, after which the receiver has awareness of the sender. Resources are committed to that connection. Stateful communications also describe a situation where the receiver has prior knowledge of the sender, but don't necessarily have an explicit setup function and don't necessarily commit resources. In other words, all connection-oriented communications are stateful, but not all stateful protocols are connection-oriented. Which of the protocols you list will work if the sender decides to send to a receiver that doesn't know about its existence? Hint: ATM was developed by the telephone industry, and Frame Relay was a specific ATM access protocol. Can you simply pick up the telephone and start talking, or must you dial first? You can just start sending on a LAN. There are a couple of subtle points that involve Token Ring and FDDI. Ethernet receivers definitely don't have prior awareness of the sender. Some people might suggest, however, that a TR or FDDI receiver marking token bits is connection-oriented, because there is a receiver action. No, I don't argue that. What I will argue is that TR and FDDI _senders_ are stateful but not connection-oriented, as they need to be aware they have sent a frame in order to remove it from the ring. They also need to maintain state about whether they have or do not have the token. Confusing things further, Logical Link Control type 2 (LLC2), which is most commonly seen over TR, definitely is connection-oriented. But "token ring" refers to the MAC and PHY protocols, not LLC. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: a ccna question-help
1. ATM Zhang Jin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > Dear group, > > I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: > select the connect-oriented protocols: > 1.ATM > 2.TOKEN RING > 3.FDDI > 4.Ethernet > 5.FrameRelay > > anyone can help me select the correct answer? > > thanks > > dean > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > --- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
a ccna question-help
Dear group, I find a confused question on an exam guide which is: select the connect-oriented protocols: 1.ATM 2.TOKEN RING 3.FDDI 4.Ethernet 5.FrameRelay anyone can help me select the correct answer? thanks dean ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam
Agreed. Mike W. "Taylor, Don" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message 67C8E1BFE53ED2118CEC0008C7A4B20706096970@USLAXEXC04">news:67C8E1BFE53ED2118CEC0008C7A4B20706096970@USLAXEXC04... > I have to disagree here. I read the original post and the follow-up and > can't consider it a flame. The questions listed are basic enough that the > test taker should be able to answer all of them, and if s/he's not able to, > more study is required. Your point is taken about English possibly being a > stumbling block concerning the NDA, and Cisco should probably address that. > > It's too bad Poor Tong didn't pass, but recommending that he study until he > can approach each of the certification objectives is hardly a flame. > > -Original Message- > From: Jean Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:07 PM > To: NoOneYouKnow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > I have not read the non-disclosure agreement and will most certainly abide > by it whenever I agree to. However, it is not in the best interest of > anyone on this list for you to flame them. Yes, you are flaming the > gentleman when you insinuate that the information required to pass this test > is not that difficult and also suggesting that he should not have taken the > exam if he does not know the answers to the questions he is referring too. > I hope that everyone who has taken the exams has gotten the maximum score. > If you personally did not, you are living in a glass house and throwing > stones. > > It appears that english is not the first language of the individual > requesting assistance. Perhaps there is a translation issue here. Is > english the only language this exam is offered in? Obviously, additional > effort should be made at the test centers to explain in more detail what the > non-disclosure agreement means. I just do not think that if Poor Tong > understood the non-disclosure agreement thoroughly, he would have violated > in this type of public forum. Appears to be a serious communication break > down somewhere. > > Poor Tong, if this is something you really want, please continue to read, > research and study. > > ms > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > > NoOneYouKnow > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:49 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > > > > Please don't take this a a flame, but I think you need to buy a book and > > read a little. These questions are so basic that I am surprised that you > > even tried the test with this level of knowledge. The CCNA isn't rocket > > science (having studied rocket science I can attest to this), but > > it should > > not be taken lightly. > > > > BTW, posting actual questions from you test is a violation of the > > non-disclosure agreement you agreed to before you took the test. > > Unlike the > > Microsoft cert folks, Cisco cert folks tend to actually take this > > agreement > > seriously. In keeping with that, it is unlikely that you will get > > answers to > > these questions, since answering any that may have been on the test would > > likely also be a violation. > > > > ---JRE--- > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "'Will'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > "'Fanglo P.M. MA'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnny Dedon'" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tia Crawford'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kevin > > Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad Ellis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > > "'Mathieu Nantel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Priscilla Oppenheimer'" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Cc: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:37 AM > > Subject: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > > > > > Hi.. Dear all, > > > > > > I took CCNA 2.0 today and failed > > > > > > and I like to ask some question, pls help if you can and tell me what is > > the > > > reason. The question and answer may not be exact > > > > > > 1)Which of the command are true. > > > > > > A) > > > Router IGRP
RE: real CCNA question that I have in exam
I have to disagree here. I read the original post and the follow-up and can't consider it a flame. The questions listed are basic enough that the test taker should be able to answer all of them, and if s/he's not able to, more study is required. Your point is taken about English possibly being a stumbling block concerning the NDA, and Cisco should probably address that. It's too bad Poor Tong didn't pass, but recommending that he study until he can approach each of the certification objectives is hardly a flame. -Original Message- From: Jean Stockton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 3:07 PM To: NoOneYouKnow; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: real CCNA question that I have in exam I have not read the non-disclosure agreement and will most certainly abide by it whenever I agree to. However, it is not in the best interest of anyone on this list for you to flame them. Yes, you are flaming the gentleman when you insinuate that the information required to pass this test is not that difficult and also suggesting that he should not have taken the exam if he does not know the answers to the questions he is referring too. I hope that everyone who has taken the exams has gotten the maximum score. If you personally did not, you are living in a glass house and throwing stones. It appears that english is not the first language of the individual requesting assistance. Perhaps there is a translation issue here. Is english the only language this exam is offered in? Obviously, additional effort should be made at the test centers to explain in more detail what the non-disclosure agreement means. I just do not think that if Poor Tong understood the non-disclosure agreement thoroughly, he would have violated in this type of public forum. Appears to be a serious communication break down somewhere. Poor Tong, if this is something you really want, please continue to read, research and study. ms > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > NoOneYouKnow > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > Please don't take this a a flame, but I think you need to buy a book and > read a little. These questions are so basic that I am surprised that you > even tried the test with this level of knowledge. The CCNA isn't rocket > science (having studied rocket science I can attest to this), but > it should > not be taken lightly. > > BTW, posting actual questions from you test is a violation of the > non-disclosure agreement you agreed to before you took the test. > Unlike the > Microsoft cert folks, Cisco cert folks tend to actually take this > agreement > seriously. In keeping with that, it is unlikely that you will get > answers to > these questions, since answering any that may have been on the test would > likely also be a violation. > > ---JRE--- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Will'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "'Fanglo P.M. MA'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnny Dedon'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tia Crawford'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kevin > Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad Ellis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "'Mathieu Nantel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Priscilla Oppenheimer'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:37 AM > Subject: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > > Hi.. Dear all, > > > > I took CCNA 2.0 today and failed > > > > and I like to ask some question, pls help if you can and tell me what is > the > > reason. The question and answer may not be exact > > > > 1)Which of the command are true. > > > > A) > > Router IGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 > > network 10.0.0.0 > > > > B) > > Router IGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 > > network 10.2.0.0 > > > > C) > > Router TGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 255.255.240.0 > > network 10.2.0.0 x.x.x.x cannot remember > > > > > > 2)ICMP is designed for all TCP/IP host? True or false? > > > > 3)Which of the following are frame switching? choose two > > 1)Full Duplex > > 2)Half Duplex > > 3)Cut thru > > 4)store and forward > > > > 4)Bridge flood broadcast? Ture of false? > > > > 5)Bridge increase collision doma
RE: real CCNA question that I have in exam
I have not read the non-disclosure agreement and will most certainly abide by it whenever I agree to. However, it is not in the best interest of anyone on this list for you to flame them. Yes, you are flaming the gentleman when you insinuate that the information required to pass this test is not that difficult and also suggesting that he should not have taken the exam if he does not know the answers to the questions he is referring too. I hope that everyone who has taken the exams has gotten the maximum score. If you personally did not, you are living in a glass house and throwing stones. It appears that english is not the first language of the individual requesting assistance. Perhaps there is a translation issue here. Is english the only language this exam is offered in? Obviously, additional effort should be made at the test centers to explain in more detail what the non-disclosure agreement means. I just do not think that if Poor Tong understood the non-disclosure agreement thoroughly, he would have violated in this type of public forum. Appears to be a serious communication break down somewhere. Poor Tong, if this is something you really want, please continue to read, research and study. ms > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > NoOneYouKnow > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2000 2:49 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > Please don't take this a a flame, but I think you need to buy a book and > read a little. These questions are so basic that I am surprised that you > even tried the test with this level of knowledge. The CCNA isn't rocket > science (having studied rocket science I can attest to this), but > it should > not be taken lightly. > > BTW, posting actual questions from you test is a violation of the > non-disclosure agreement you agreed to before you took the test. > Unlike the > Microsoft cert folks, Cisco cert folks tend to actually take this > agreement > seriously. In keeping with that, it is unlikely that you will get > answers to > these questions, since answering any that may have been on the test would > likely also be a violation. > > ---JRE--- > > > - Original Message - > From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "'Will'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "'Fanglo P.M. MA'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnny Dedon'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tia Crawford'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kevin > Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad Ellis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > "'Mathieu Nantel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Priscilla Oppenheimer'" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:37 AM > Subject: real CCNA question that I have in exam > > > > Hi.. Dear all, > > > > I took CCNA 2.0 today and failed > > > > and I like to ask some question, pls help if you can and tell me what is > the > > reason. The question and answer may not be exact > > > > 1)Which of the command are true. > > > > A) > > Router IGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 > > network 10.0.0.0 > > > > B) > > Router IGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 > > network 10.2.0.0 > > > > C) > > Router TGRP > > network 192.168.0.0 255.255.240.0 > > network 10.2.0.0 x.x.x.x cannot remember > > > > > > 2)ICMP is designed for all TCP/IP host? True or false? > > > > 3)Which of the following are frame switching? choose two > > 1)Full Duplex > > 2)Half Duplex > > 3)Cut thru > > 4)store and forward > > > > 4)Bridge flood broadcast? Ture of false? > > > > 5)Bridge increase collision domain? true or false? > > > > 6)for IP 172.37.2.56 and 12 bit subnet mask. > > > > What is the valid IP range > > A)172.37.2.48- 172.37.2.62 > > B)172.37.2.48-172.37.2.63 > > C)172.37.2.49-172.37.2.62 > > and etc > > > > 7)If router A interface s0 connected to router B interface S0 > > Router A interface 's encap is novel-ether then how about serial 0 of > > router B? > > > > 8)when you type router#show ver. > > > > it shows configuration register is 0X0101? > > where is the router booted from? > > > > Thank you very much, > > > > Poor Tong > > > > ___ > UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html > FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com > Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam
Please don't take this a a flame, but I think you need to buy a book and read a little. These questions are so basic that I am surprised that you even tried the test with this level of knowledge. The CCNA isn't rocket science (having studied rocket science I can attest to this), but it should not be taken lightly. BTW, posting actual questions from you test is a violation of the non-disclosure agreement you agreed to before you took the test. Unlike the Microsoft cert folks, Cisco cert folks tend to actually take this agreement seriously. In keeping with that, it is unlikely that you will get answers to these questions, since answering any that may have been on the test would likely also be a violation. ---JRE--- - Original Message - From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Will'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Fanglo P.M. MA'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnny Dedon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tia Crawford'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kevin Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad Ellis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mathieu Nantel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Priscilla Oppenheimer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: real CCNA question that I have in exam > Hi.. Dear all, > > I took CCNA 2.0 today and failed > > and I like to ask some question, pls help if you can and tell me what is the > reason. The question and answer may not be exact > > 1)Which of the command are true. > > A) > Router IGRP > network 192.168.0.0 > network 10.0.0.0 > > B) > Router IGRP > network 192.168.0.0 > network 10.2.0.0 > > C) > Router TGRP > network 192.168.0.0 255.255.240.0 > network 10.2.0.0 x.x.x.x cannot remember > > > 2)ICMP is designed for all TCP/IP host? True or false? > > 3)Which of the following are frame switching? choose two > 1)Full Duplex > 2)Half Duplex > 3)Cut thru > 4)store and forward > > 4)Bridge flood broadcast? Ture of false? > > 5)Bridge increase collision domain? true or false? > > 6)for IP 172.37.2.56 and 12 bit subnet mask. > > What is the valid IP range > A)172.37.2.48- 172.37.2.62 > B)172.37.2.48-172.37.2.63 > C)172.37.2.49-172.37.2.62 > and etc > > 7)If router A interface s0 connected to router B interface S0 > Router A interface 's encap is novel-ether then how about serial 0 of > router B? > > 8)when you type router#show ver. > > it shows configuration register is 0X0101? > where is the router booted from? > > Thank you very much, > > Poor Tong ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam
If we answered these we would be violating our agreement...sorry. You should watch what you write also, seeing as there are alot of cisco employee's onsite. Mark Zabludovsky ~ CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: real CCNA question that I have in exam
www.boson.com www.cisco.com research your answers - Original Message - From: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Will'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Howard C. Berkowitz'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Fanglo P.M. MA'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Johnny Dedon'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Tia Crawford'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Kevin Wigle'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Brad Ellis'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Mathieu Nantel'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Priscilla Oppenheimer'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Sim, CT (Chee Tong)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 24, 2000 4:37 AM Subject: real CCNA question that I have in exam > Hi.. Dear all, > > I took CCNA 2.0 today and failed > > and I like to ask some question, pls help if you can and tell me what is the > reason. The question and answer may not be exact > > 1)Which of the command are true. > > A) > Router IGRP > network 192.168.0.0 > network 10.0.0.0 > > B) > Router IGRP > network 192.168.0.0 > network 10.2.0.0 > > C) > Router TGRP > network 192.168.0.0 255.255.240.0 > network 10.2.0.0 x.x.x.x cannot remember > > > 2)ICMP is designed for all TCP/IP host? True or false? > > 3)Which of the following are frame switching? choose two > 1)Full Duplex > 2)Half Duplex > 3)Cut thru > 4)store and forward > > 4)Bridge flood broadcast? Ture of false? > > 5)Bridge increase collision domain? true or false? > > 6)for IP 172.37.2.56 and 12 bit subnet mask. > > What is the valid IP range > A)172.37.2.48- 172.37.2.62 > B)172.37.2.48-172.37.2.63 > C)172.37.2.49-172.37.2.62 > and etc > > 7)If router A interface s0 connected to router B interface S0 > Router A interface 's encap is novel-ether then how about serial 0 of > router B? > > 8)when you type router#show ver. > > it shows configuration register is 0X0101? > where is the router booted from? > > Thank you very much, > > Poor Tong > > > > > == > De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en > is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht > onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en > de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. > == > The information contained in this message may be confidential > and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you > receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents > herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. > > > == > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Which is the equivalent in new cisco certification to the CCNA? or tell me the exam to be CCNA now. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
> I agree. I always use ping first, BUT =P > The question doesn't describe the environment. In a worse case type senerio > you could be testing tcp/ip connectivity through a firewall or router in > which upd and icmp are blocked but tcp isn't. > Or is that crazy talk? Many firewalls do have UDP and ICMP mostly blocked for protection. And not TCP. I'm inclined to write his off as a learning experience and maybe a trick question Kevin L. Kultgen MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP Calgary, Alberta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
"Kevin L. Kultgen" wrote: > > 2)To enter the setup mode on a router with no configuration you > > must type? What command? > > setup If it *really* has no config, it will come up in setup mode :-) > > 5)Ethernet network can be considered as congested at > > ..% utilization? > > Every company has a different standard. I've commonly heard 60% > and 75%, one was Cisco's I think it was 75%. And half/full duplex have different "congestion" ratings. > > 6)Which are true about Full Duplex > > a)can be used between hubs > > b)can be used between switches > > c)can be used between a switch and a router > > d)can be used among Ethernet station > > 8)An Internal IPX number is required by what servers and protocol > > a)IPX RIP router > > b)NLSP capable device > > c)IPX server > > d)NSLP server > > e) all > > I'd guess E. Haven't done a whole bunch of IPX or NLSP IPX RIP doesn't require an internal network. > > 15) TCP/IP connectivity can be checked using ? > > a)ping > > b)trace > > c)telnet > > ping of coure, trace is usually used as a backup to ping, and telnet > tests the whole stack. ping is ICMP. trace (on cisco router) is UDP. telnet is TCP. > > 16)what command to check the periodic update of RIP>? > > Don't remember, never used rip - (show ip rip ?) sho ip protocol Jeff Kell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
I agree. I always use ping first, BUT =P The question doesn't describe the environment. In a worse case type senerio you could be testing tcp/ip connectivity through a firewall or router in which upd and icmp are blocked but tcp isn't. Or is that crazy talk? On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Tracert usually uses UDP packets (with TTL) instead of "echo request" > packets. Maybe it is a trick question. But ping does check for > connectivity at the lowest level of the TCP/IP stack. So if IP works, TCP > should. 'Cause if you ping you usually can do tracert and telnet. Unless > there is an MTU/fragment issue. > > Kevin L. Kultgen > MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW > IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP > Calgary, Alberta > - Original Message - > From: "Akuinnen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Kevin L. Kultgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:10 PM > Subject: Re: can I ask some CCNA Question.. > > > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > > > Is this a trick question? Telnet is tcp where ping and traceroute are > > icmp right? So to actually test the tcp you would need to use telnet. > > > > > > 15) TCP/IP connectivity can be checked using ? > > > > a)ping > > > > b)trace > > > > c)telnet > > > > > > ping of coure, trace is usually used as a backup to ping, and telnet > > tests > > > > the whole stack. ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
Tracert usually uses UDP packets (with TTL) instead of "echo request" packets. Maybe it is a trick question. But ping does check for connectivity at the lowest level of the TCP/IP stack. So if IP works, TCP should. 'Cause if you ping you usually can do tracert and telnet. Unless there is an MTU/fragment issue. Kevin L. Kultgen MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP Calgary, Alberta - Original Message - From: "Akuinnen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin L. Kultgen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2000 4:10 PM Subject: Re: can I ask some CCNA Question.. > On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Is this a trick question? Telnet is tcp where ping and traceroute are icmp > right? So to actually test the tcp you would need to use telnet. > > > > 15) TCP/IP connectivity can be checked using ? > > > a)ping > > > b)trace > > > c)telnet > > > > ping of coure, trace is usually used as a backup to ping, and telnet tests > > the whole stack. > ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
""Kevin L. Kultgen"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > > 9)which layer of OSI provide synchronization between address and name > > database? > > I believe Cisco defines DNS at the application layer. However I have seen > it defined at the session layer. Cisco's TCP/IP model only has 5 layers: physical, datalink, network, transport, and application (which take up OSI session, presentation and application). So, it would be at the session layer in the OSI, but the application layer in the Cisco TCP/IP model. > > 12)What command to disable CDP broadcast on a specific interface, what > > commnad ? what mode? > > conf t ; int e0 ; no cdp enable > > no cdp run is used to turn it off globally And 'no cdp enable' turns it off for individual interfaces. > > 16)what command to check the periodic update of RIP>? > > Don't remember, never used rip - (show ip rip ?) debug ip rip > > 17)What is not a valid metric for IGRP > > a)Bandwidth > > b)Delay > > c)Reliabity > > d)loading > > loading is not used. IIRC, "load" is an IGRP metric (as opposed to "loading"), but only bandwidth and delay are used by default. MTU is also one that is not on the list. ---JRE--- ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: can I ask some CCNA Question..
> 1)It Takes three Packets to start a TCP session, how many packet are used to > close it One AFAIK. With a Reset flag. > 2)To enter the setup mode on a router with no configuration you must type? > What command? setup > 3)How do you list the current IPX server in the network on a cisco router show ipx servers - to get the various sap servers. > 4)If u want to bridge a protocol out a routed interface you can use? > A IBM spanning tree > B)Intergrated routing and bridging > C)SRB > D)TB > E)SR/TLB Integrated routing and bridging. The clue is that it is a routing interface, and you want to bridge through it. > 5)Ethernet network can be considered as congested at ..% utilization? Every company has a different standard. I've commonly heard 60% and 75%, one was Cisco's I think it was 75%. > 6)Which are true about Full Duplex > a)can be used between hubs > b)can be used between switches > c)can be used between a switch and a router > d)can be used among Ethernet station can be used between switches, a switch and router, and Ethernet stations. A hub doesn't use it unless it's a "switching" hub. Kind of a misnomer. > 7)Which of the following describe frame filtering > > a)Examines info about a frame based on user defined offset > b)Uses a frame filtering table > c)High level administrative control > d)Is similar in function to packet filtering in a router dunno, I would problably say d. need more info. > 8)An Internal IPX number is required by what servers and protocol > a)IPX RIP router > b)NLSP capable device > c)IPX server > d)NSLP server > e) all I'd guess E. Haven't done a whole bunch of IPX or NLSP > 9)which layer of OSI provide synchronization between address and name > database? I believe Cisco defines DNS at the application layer. However I have seen it defined at the session layer. > 10)When subnet and addressing is applied in numerical order this is known > as? ??? huh? > 11)To enable terminal editing, what is the min privilege level? not sure, never had to turn it on (or off), try it for yourself > 12)What command to disable CDP broadcast on a specific interface, what > commnad ? what mode? conf t ; int e0 ; no cdp enable no cdp run is used to turn it off globally > 13) how many segment to setup a TCP connection>? 3 - SYN ; SYN/ACK ; ACK > 14) how many ip address can be assigned against a particular host using the > ip host command not sure, never hit the limit, usually use a DNS Server > 15) TCP/IP connectivity can be checked using ? > a)ping > b)trace > c)telnet ping of coure, trace is usually used as a backup to ping, and telnet tests the whole stack. > 16)what command to check the periodic update of RIP>? Don't remember, never used rip - (show ip rip ?) > 17)What is not a valid metric for IGRP > a)Bandwidth > b)Delay > c)Reliabity > d)loading loading is not used. Kevin L. Kultgen MCSE+I, MCDBA, CCNA, A+, Network+, i-Net+/CIW IRIS Systems Inc, MCSP Calgary, Alberta ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
can I ask some CCNA Question..
Dear Friends, I have some question wo answer, pls guide if u can, I have quite a number of question, reply me part of the question, if u don't know all 1)It Takes three Packets to start a TCP session, how many packet are used to close it 2)To enter the setup mode on a router with no configuration you must type? What command? 3)How do you list the current IPX server in the network on a cisco router 4)If u want to bridge a protocol out a routed interface you can use? A IBM spanning tree B)Intergrated routing and bridging C)SRB D)TB E)SR/TLB P/S: I dun understand the meaning of question 4, can help? 5)Ethernet network can be considered as congested at ..% utilization? 6)Which are true about Full Duplex a)can be used between hubs b)can be used between switches c)can be used between a switch and a router d)can be used among Ethernet station 7)Which of the following describe frame filtering a)Examines info about a frame based on user defined offset b)Uses a frame filtering table c)High level administrative control d)Is similar in function to packet filtering in a router 8)An Internal IPX number is required by what servers and protocol a)IPX RIP router b)NLSP capable device c)IPX server d)NSLP server e) all 9)which layer of OSI provide synchronization between address and name database? 10)When subnet and addressing is applied in numerical order this is known as? 11)To enable terminal editing, what is the min privilege level? 12)What command to disable CDP broadcast on a specific interface, what commnad ? what mode? 13) how many segment to setup a TCP connection>? 14) how many ip address can be assigned against a particular host using the ip host command 15) TCP/IP connectivity can be checked using ? a)ping b)trace c)telnet 16)what command to check the periodic update of RIP>? 17)What is not a valid metric for IGRP a)Bandwidth b)Delay c)Reliabity d)loading Sorry for the long mail, :) == De informatie opgenomen in dit bericht kan vertrouwelijk zijn en is uitsluitend bestemd voor de geadresseerde. Indien u dit bericht onterecht ontvangt wordt u verzocht de inhoud niet te gebruiken en de afzender direct te informeren door het bericht te retourneren. == The information contained in this message may be confidential and is intended to be exclusively for the addressee. Should you receive this message unintentionally, please do not use the contents herein and notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. == ___ UPDATED Posting Guidelines: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/guide.html FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
