Re: Running Java Through Cocoon
On 13.Aug.2002 -- 05:11 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey guys, I'm hoping you could help me out with a project I've been tasked with. I'm gonna ask the simple question now, and go into more detail below: How can one have a Logic Sheet helper class, that just runs a method stored in a new custom java class? And does anyone have an example of this. Look at the supplied logicsheets that come with Apache Cocoon. They do this all the time. I suggest to look at the util or request logicsheet as they are relatively simple. For a full blown, complicated example, look at the esql logicsheet. There are some bean helpers around as well, for example jpath could be of interest. Chris. Please follow up summarizing your problem and which suggested solution / information worked for you when you consider your problem solved. Add SUMMARY: to the subject line. This will make FAQ generation and searching the list easier. In addition, it makes helping you more fun. Thank you. -- C h r i s t i a n H a u l [EMAIL PROTECTED] fingerprint: 99B0 1D9D 7919 644A 4837 7D73 FEF9 6856 335A 9E08 - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
i18n:attr processing problem (ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException)
Hi, It seems that there is a bug in the i18n transformer. 1. Configuration: JDK1.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, Tomcat 4.0.4 2. Bug description: - I've pipeline like xml - i18n transformer - serializer; - XML source contains an element like input i18n:attr=value value=somekey type=reset/ Note: order of attributes is significant. - Such a pipeline crashes with the java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException : Original exception : java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException at java.lang.System.arraycopy(Native Method) at org.xml.sax.helpers.AttributesImpl.removeAttribute(AttributesImpl.java:439) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.translateAttributes(I18nTransformer.java:1146) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.startElement(I18nTransformer.java:868) . . . 3. The same problem is occured when an element with i18n:attr is created during xsl transformation, but with reversing order of attributes, for example: input type=reset value=somekey i18n:attr=value/ because after xsl transformation attributes in its result are appeared in reversed order 4. WORKAROUND: for XML (first case) - set i18n:attr as the last attribute of an element; for XSL (second case) - set i18n:attr as the first attribute of an element. Best regards, Roman - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Web-App does not work in frameset
hi all! i made a web-application with cocoon (a site for registration - name, age, phone number, ...). than you click on a submit button and the action writes down the data (for example in a database). i want to get the web-app run with ie5.5 and ie6.0 if i run the web-app in an frameset (that's what i want to do), it only works with IE 5.5. if i run it without a framset, just only the site, it works with both. does anybody had the same problem. who knows a solution. greetings, tom - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: FOP-0.20.3
This could be an issue with Batik versions. IIRC Cocoon is distributed with some 1.5 version of Batik, while FOP 0.20.3 needs an 1.1 compatible version. What about FOP-0.20.4 or later (CVS) versions? You should get a ClassNotFound or MethodNotFound exceptionin this I think you're right, Tomcat's logfile shows several ... java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/batik/dom/svg/DefaultSVGContext ... Is it possible (without in-depth knowledge) to rebuild FOP with the current batik version and then integrate it into Cocoon? I had no problem configuring/compiling FOP, nevertheless I do not really know how to put this 'puzzle' together. Kind regards, Wolf-Dieter - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Session propagating to resources
hi, is it possible to propagate a session to a ressource when the session was created in the same request and no cookies are allowed ? i got a login pipeline that creates a session (request.getSession(true)) and then calls a ressource. if the session in the resource is checked, it is null. is there any solution to this problem? thanks marc - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Session propagating to resources
my fault, it worked all the time .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, is it possible to propagate a session to a ressource when the session was created in the same request and no cookies are allowed ? i got a login pipeline that creates a session (request.getSession(true)) and then calls a ressource. if the session in the resource is checked, it is null. is there any solution to this problem? thanks marc - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
sexy open source
Hi cocooners, Now that I have your attention, I would like to discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable applications with open-source only and how far one could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some discussion going. I think many of you have reached some status quo which could be of great service to all the newcomers. Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet another everyday technology-related problems and there is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is some solution that could be achieved with open source and it waits to be discovered. It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, with professional design, able to serve without interruption even by ongoing changes and high user traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose here may be universal enough to be equally worth also for many other means. If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being concrete: 1) Operating system Proposal: Linux Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for further points. 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 3) Application framework Proposal: JBoss 3.x Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving scallability for the site. What concrete parts of JBoss are involved, is very OT here. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer similar if not same functionality. This is a point I would like to discuss further. 6) Content Persistence Proposal: stand-alone XIndice Remarks: This component should be used only for content without business logic, outside J2EE, for example for simple static content editing templates and external content syndicate subscription. Simply for everything that's too light to be served by deep application logic. Did anybody use it already? That's a question. 7) Content Framework Proposal: Cocoon, what else :) Remarks: The task of Cocoon is to separate Logic from Design, what it should be good at. I want to get more detailed here: Starting with structured XSP, xincluding or transforming (what is better?) parts of final site together, using taglib logicsheets for access to business logic that is delegated to J2EE (did anybody here got it working?), other taglib for content persistence and yet other for reused content elements. The XSP should contain as little Java as possible, all hrefs should be good organized with sitemap and XForm could be used for user inputs (are we so far?). XSP should somehow incorporate JAAS from JBoss for user authorisation to access the documents (anybody tried this?) The result of multiple transformations is then complete site as XML, that is further processed using XSLT to incorporate the design and graphics and serialized to appropriate end format. If possible, all the vector design elements should be dynamically created using SVG (anybody?), page should be somehow cacheable for better response times (???) and the final result should be optimized for several types of client (is DELI of use here?) and/or serialized to PDF (do I expect too much?). The workflow by creating the content can be following: After initial discussion between involved parties, dummy working XSP/XSL is/are created, possibly reusing already available static elements from taglibs. Then, database/J2EE developers work on filling it with propper dynamic data, content writers type in internationalized static texts and designers are parallel creating more mature XSL, icons, SVG and thin client customizations. Working adjustments are posted to versioning system without injuring established interfaces to other team members. Final version emerges and the team could proceed to other page. Seems like heaven to me, but is probably hell to achieve. Or is similar optimized team workflow available anywhere in this world? 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? 9) Suporting Tools
Strange error using JPEG/SVGSerializier under heavy load - ClassCastException
Configuration: Cocoon 2.0.3, Tomcat 3.2.3. We use the SVGSerializer with JPEG-Output to generate graphical menus (we could not get the customer to use only plain text menus). All works fine after a starting up tomcat. But after a few days (variing) without even touching the server the SVG Generantion fails with the Error below - a ClassCastException. Every following request of a JPEG generation failes with the same error. All other requests processing only HTML still work! This error is very strange, because all works until the SVG Serialization seems to hang up totally (but only the SVG Serialization). The memory utilisation is normal. There are no OutOfMemory-Erros or anything that points to a memory leak. Unfortunately it was not possible to reproduce this problem by force using a web stress tool, it only happens on the live servers and only after a few days. After a tomcat restart all works well again. Any ideas? I searched the mailing lists of Cocoon and Batik but found hints. We tried replacing the batik 1.5beta2 shipped with Cocoon 2.0.3 with the latest 1.5 beta3, same problem. Stefan FATAL_E (2002-08-14) 10:25.14:890 [core.xslt-processor] (/rstemplates/rs/rs_rubrik/0,,1767_gruene-partei~de_svg_nav1,00.jpg) Thread-9/TraxErrorHandler: Error in TraxTransformer: javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser javax.xml.transform.TransformerException: java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1226) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) - java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser at org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.SVGBuilder.endDocument(SVGBuilder.java:144) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java:190) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) - java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser at org.apache.cocoon.serialization.SVGSerializer.notify(SVGSerializer.java:272) at org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.SVGBuilder.endDocument(SVGBuilder.java:140) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java:190) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) - java.lang.ClassCastException: org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser at org.apache.batik.dom.svg.SVGDOMImplementation.createCSSEngine(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.dom.svg.ExtensibleSVGDOMImplementation.createCSSEngine(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.BridgeContext.initializeDocument(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.bridge.GVTBuilder.build(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.transcoder.SVGAbstractTranscoder.transcode(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.transcoder.image.ImageTranscoder.transcode(Unknown Source) at org.apache.batik.transcoder.XMLAbstractTranscoder.transcode(Unknown Source) at org.apache.cocoon.serialization.SVGSerializer.notify(SVGSerializer.java:268) at org.apache.cocoon.xml.dom.SVGBuilder.endDocument(SVGBuilder.java:140) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.ResultTreeHandler.endDocument(ResultTreeHandler.java:190) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.transformNode(TransformerImpl.java:1182) at org.apache.xalan.transformer.TransformerImpl.run(TransformerImpl.java:3196) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:484) - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 1.4 is better IMHO. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? I vote for PostgreSQL. 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer similar if not same functionality. This is a point I would like to discuss further. More people are familiar with Tomcat. dynamically created using SVG (anybody?) Sure ;-) 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Project Management: PHPMyProject (or other web-based solution?) No files released. Try phpcollab. I'd be happy to jusm in if this gets attention. However, if this is going to be serious, I wouldn't settle for less than two months of design/documentation/prototyping before actually starting implementations. Besides, I'm sure many people may have great ideas on this. Perhaps the common aim will be a strong customizable code base for web-based, multiuser applications. Cheers, Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho.
JspGenerator error on hello.jsp
I'm running cocoon 2.0.3 on Tomcat3.3.1 (Linux 7.2). I've been trying to run the hello.jsp example for the jsp as below;http://localhost:8080/cocoon/jsp/hello I get the following error: The org.apache.cocoon.sitemap_xmap notifies that org.apache.cocoon.ProcessinException says:ServletException in JspGenerator.generate();More preciselyorg.apache.cocoon.ProcessinException:ServletException in JspGenerator.generate();The stack trace is as follows: org.apache.cocoon.ProcessingException: ServletException in JspGenerator.generate() at org.apache.cocoon.generation.JspGenerator.generate(JspGenerator.java:133) at org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingEventPipeline.process(CachingEventPipeline.java:250) at org.apache.cocoon.components.pipeline.CachingStreamPipeline.process(CachingStreamPipeline.java:399) at org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.matchN10780(/root/jakarta-tomcat-3.3.1/work/DEFAULT/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:9298) at org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(/root/jakarta-tomcat-3.3.1/work/DEFAULT/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:3639) at org.apache.cocoon.www.sitemap_xmap.process(/root/jakarta-tomcat-3.3.1/work/DEFAULT/cocoon/cocoon-files/org/apache/cocoon/www/sitemap_xmap.java:3107) at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Handler.process(Handler.java:224) at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.Manager.invoke(Manager.java:179) at org.apache.cocoon.sitemap.SitemapManager.process(SitemapManager.java:154) at org.apache.cocoon.Cocoon.process(Cocoon.java:575) at org.apache.cocoon.servlet.CocoonServlet.service(CocoonServlet.java:999) at javax.servlet.http.HttpServlet.service(HttpServlet.java) at org.apache.tomcat.facade.ServletHandler.doService(ServletHandler.java:574) at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.invoke(Handler.java:322) at org.apache.tomcat.core.Handler.service(Handler.java:235) at org.apache.tomcat.facade.ServletHandler.service(ServletHandler.java:485) at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.internalService(ContextManager.java:917) at org.apache.tomcat.core.ContextManager.ser vice(ContextManager.java:833) at org.apache.tomcat.modules.server.Http10Interceptor.processConnection(Http10Interceptor.java:176) at org.apache.tomcat.util.net.TcpWorkerThread.runIt(PoolTcpEndpoint.java:494) at org.apache.tomcat.util.threads.ThreadPool$ControlRunnable.run(ThreadPool.java:516) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:479)Can somebody please throw some light on this.Vikram rai.
RE: sexy open source
I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. It is quite impressive. Very very advanced stuff !!! Buy some RAM and let's go :-) PS: BTW? what's the price of Oracle? :-) -Message d'origine- De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 14 août 2002 15:05 À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: Message Argyn, Err... the subject says "open source". I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho.
RE: sexy open source
Title: Message subj was "sexy open source". I don't think that there's "sexy open source" RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says "open source". I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho.
Re: sexy open source
The same here! ;) El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 1.4 is better IMHO. 1.4 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? I vote for PostgreSQL. PostgreSQL 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer similar if not same functionality. This is a point I would like to discuss further. More people are familiar with Tomcat. Tomcat dynamically created using SVG (anybody?) Sure ;-) Yes 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Not needed Project Management: PHPMyProject (or other web-based solution?) No files released. Try phpcollab. I also use jEdit (http://www.jEdit.org)a nice open source editor. I use it to edit XML. I'd be happy to jusm in if this gets attention. However, if this is going to be serious, I wouldn't settle for less than two months of design/documentation/prototyping before actually starting implementations. Besides, I'm sure many people may have great ideas on this. Perhaps the common aim will be a strong customizable code base for web-based, multiuser applications. Cheers, Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:05, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. I agree! ;) - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. The first thing business cares about is not profit or performance; it's survival. To survive in today's business environment, one needs to find a balance between cost, efficiency flexibility etc. A business must also serve the general interest of the public, as the public's opinion is essential to it's survival. Different views and contexts of course, bring different decisions. Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
How they can compare Firebird to Postgresql? PostgreSQL is superior! El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:07, ROSSEL Olivier escribió: I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. It is quite impressive. Very very advanced stuff !!! Buy some RAM and let's go :-) PS: BTW? what's the price of Oracle? :-) -Message d'origine- De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 14 août 2002 15:05 À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RES: sexy open source
Why do you think Jboss sucks ? -Mensagem original- De: Antonio Gallardo Rivera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviada em: quarta-feira, 14 de agosto de 2002 10:19 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Assunto: Re: sexy open source El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:05, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. I agree! ;) - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
I recommend you try PostgreSQL. El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:11, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: subj was sexy open source. I don't think that there's sexy open source RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message- From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says open source. I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
I am really happy with SAP-DB / Castor for RDBMS Persistence Johann - Original Message - From: Antonio Gallardo Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:22 PM Subject: Re: sexy open source I recommend you try PostgreSQL. El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:11, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: subj was sexy open source. I don't think that there's sexy open source RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message- From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says open source. I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Hey this look nice! Is this opensource? El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:43, Johann Romefort escribió: 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? 9) Suporting Tools XML editor: ??? (I use several or write the XML from scratch) XSL editor: ??? (Did not find good free one) Try sunBow plugin for Eclipse: http://radio.weblogs.com/0108489/ from the webiste: * Enhanced XML-Editor: completion proposals for tags generated from associated XML schemas, automatically insertion of closing tags, formatting the XML document dependant on adjustable parameters * Sitemap editor: directly open referenced files from the editor, Drag and Drop support with schema validation * pipeline-testing: execute HTTP requests or Apache Latka scripts from the workbench * Cocoon log-level configuration * management of sitemap fragments in the sitemap editor * breakpoints in the XSLT debugger johann - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Cocoon right now (2.0.3) has no good way to handle errors generated by J2EE business logic. can you elaborate this in a little more details? I don't quite get what you mean by that, sorry
RE: sexy open source
Title: Message One could certainly argue that DB2 is as sexy or sexier than Oracle; the fact that Oracle 8 lacks true outer joinmakes it down right ugly if you ask me... In any case, my real reason for responding is to say that I would consider jBoss "sexy" anyone that's had to do a manual EJB deploy using something other than JBoss is likely to agree... -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:11 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source subj was "sexy open source". I don't think that there's "sexy open source" RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says "open source". I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho.
RE: [Q] SunRise roles?
Sorry, previous reply was incomplete... Follow up questions: - is there an equivalent call to HTTPServletRequest.isUserInRole() against the authentication context? No (not yet). From java code you can get the content of /authentication/role and test it against your value. From a pipeline, you have to get the role using session:getxml and then test it in a stylesheet...For such tests, I always wanted to add a session:testxml... - From what I can tell, the SunRise code doesn't support the notion of multiple roles per user. It makes the SunRise Authentication support not a complete replacement for container security. Perhaps that wasn't the goal but it's something people will look for. What's the background for that? Do you think it could be overcome easily (how?)? Yes, there are several solutions, as you pointed out below: Aside: if I return a list of comma separated roles could the portal still be made to work? Yes, it should still work. The portal knows enough to tokenize the role string? - I'm not clear why the SessionContextImpl doesn't implement some of the functions like getNodeList(String path). Reason is simple: Lazy developer. Send a patch :) It's not inherent in the fact that the 'sunRise' context spans the authentication, request, response and application XML? There's no problem in your mind with returning NodeLists from across them? If not, I just might send that patch ;-) Thoughts for doing multiple roles: + comma separated list of roles inside role (yes, sounds flaky doesn't it). It's not a nice solution, but should work. And you mentioned above that the portal will accept comma delimited roles within role already (e.g. it isn't doing an equals() but some kind of tokenization? + add to the data section Yes, this is the solution others use (afaik). Really? Others have done this? Anyone posted anything? authentication IDper/ID roleunused/role data roles rolemanager/role roleibm/role roleadmin/role /roles /data /authentication But then I immediately ran into trouble trying to iterate over all the nested roles inside roles since SessionContextImpl doesn't implement some of the xpath functions. Again, this is only due to a lazy developer - you could implement them. They're already in SimpleSessionContext, I'll copy that code. Aside: what contexts (besides 'sunRise') is the SessionContextImpl used instead of SimpleSessionContext? What do you mean? Why the SessionContextImpl is used instead of the SimpleSessionContext? Well, that is the question really. But I'm also curious if I use sunshine:getxml when I'm hitting SimpleSessionContext and when I'm hitting SessionContextImpl. Per - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Hi Antonio, --- Antonio Gallardo Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: The same here! ;) I also use jEdit (http://www.jEdit.org)a nice open source editor. I use it to edit XML. I'm downloading it right now to test it out. Thank you, Antonio. Peter. PS: If this thread goes to some nice results, I will write down the summary. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: Message agree, DB2 is not bad. I meant that sexy bunch of software is not to be 100% open. why would I want open RDBMS? I've no clue in inner workings of databases, I'll never ever open the hood, I promise. in fact, Oracle, MS SQL server and DB2 are probably equally good choices. for development you may get them for free, I guess. I always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much difference. -Original Message-From: Hunsberger, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:14 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source One could certainly argue that DB2 is as sexy or sexier than Oracle; the fact that Oracle 8 lacks true outer joinmakes it down right ugly if you ask me... In any case, my real reason for responding is to say that I would consider jBoss "sexy" anyone that's had to do a manual EJB deploy using something other than JBoss is likely to agree... -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:11 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source subj was "sexy open source". I don't think that there's "sexy open source" RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message-From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says "open source". I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message-From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho.
Re: sexy open source
Vegan: Can you publish at the end of this survey the results? I think many people here want to know about that. ;) I am newbie too. I am currently ending the last course of a serie of 3 tutorials about Cocoon in the IBM website. ;) And I need to end a new application using Cocoon for Sept. 1. Nice, right? I am working 18 hours dialy to meet the date. :) Regards, Antonio. El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 08:12, Vegan Portal escribió: Hi Manos, --- Manos Batsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x 1.4 is better IMHO. Well, it should be, but I've seen several people here reporting problems already with Cocoon alone, not to mention other components. Maybe these are minor and because many people are on it, 1.4 is really way to go. Should it try it out today? What version of Cocoon to take? 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service I vote for PostgreSQL. I did not get PostgreSQL working under JBoss, probably my fault or the fault of using JBoss at all. I also like PostgreSQL more, but then: What free DB Management for Linux/Windows do you use? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service More people are familiar with Tomcat. Me too! Just that ... JBoss doesn't like it that much. Again, fault of using JBoss at all? dynamically created using SVG (anybody?) Sure ;-) You are probably ironic here regarding the complexity of SVG. But if it could spare the great deal of designers work on creating reusable vector-based graphics that are then serialized to appropriate format, depending on client capabilities. I've put some very simple SVG generation together and it is an inferno, but I dream about making it mature enough for production, although I'm afraid the results may be not worth the time put into it and designers love their Adobe/Gimp .and hate XML. 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Not needed. Is configuring Tomcat secure enough for example in case of DoS attacks? Project Management: PHPMyProject No files released. Try phpcollab. True. Thank you for suggestion. I'd be happy to jusm in if this gets attention. However, if this is going to be serious, I wouldn't settle for less than two months of design/documentation/prototyping before actually starting implementations. Besides, I'm sure many people may have great ideas on this. You mean some group of crazy people should be put together and make the ultimate environment true? I'm for it! More than I ever dreamed of before... Perhaps the common aim will be a strong customizable code base for web-based, multiuser applications. Exactly. Thank you very much for speaking out. See you, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sunrise and jdk1.4
-Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 Yes, I have the rights jar in the endorsed directory under java_home\lib\jre\endorsed. I am using Tomcat 4.1.8-LE-1.4 and cocoon from CVS. Any ideas? It should be java_home\jre\lib\endorsed. Carsten - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Strange error using JPEG/SVGSerializier under heavy load - ClassCastException
Stefan Seifert wrote: Hello Vadim. The Problem from the other thread is possibly related - but i do not use saxon nor changed the default configuration of cocoon-2.0.3 concerning XSLT processor usage (at least i'm not aware of this - i did some updates from earlier cocoon version, but always tried to get all changed configurations from the new cocoon.xconf etc.). Again, my XML streams transformed are not that big (usually 100kb), and the resulting JPEG is really small (~2-3kb). But perhaps the bug appears by either big XML input files or a long runtime (points to small errors summing up and finally resulting in the error - but why then a ClassCastException??). Unfortunately i have not found a way to reproduce the problem by force; in that case i would try to debug it. Perhaps i will try to blow up my XML input streams and see if i can produce the problem that way. You could try... But i'm not sure if it has really to do something with the other thread. May be not, but these ClassCastExceptions look very suspiciously to me. Vadim Stefan -Original Message- From: Vadim Gritsenko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 3:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Strange error using JPEG/SVGSerializier under heavy load - ClassCastException Stefan Seifert wrote: Configuration: Cocoon 2.0.3, Tomcat 3.2.3. We use the SVGSerializer with JPEG-Output to generate graphical menus (we could not get the customer to use only plain text menus). All works fine after a starting up tomcat. But after a few days (variing) without even touching the server the SVG Generantion fails with the Error below - a ClassCastException. Every following request of a JPEG generation failes with the same error. All other requests processing only HTML still work! This error is very strange, because all works until the SVG Serialization seems to hang up totally (but only the SVG Serialization). The memory utilisation is normal. There are no OutOfMemory-Erros or anything that points to a memory leak. Unfortunately it was not possible to reproduce this problem by force using a web stress tool, it only happens on the live servers and only after a few days. After a tomcat restart all works well again. Any ideas? I searched the mailing lists of Cocoon and Batik but found hints. We tried replacing the batik 1.5beta2 shipped with Cocoon 2.0.3 with the latest 1.5 beta3, same problem. I wonder is it related to this thread or not: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=10279522402r=1w=2 Vadim Stefan ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Q] SunRise roles?
Per Kreipke wrote: Aside: if I return a list of comma separated roles could the portal still be made to work? Yes, it should still work. The portal knows enough to tokenize the role string? Rethinking about this, it's a little bit difficult. The portal uses the role name to build the profile, which means a profile for the role is used in this process. So the portal needs one role to build the profile. - I'm not clear why the SessionContextImpl doesn't implement some of the functions like getNodeList(String path). Reason is simple: Lazy developer. Send a patch :) It's not inherent in the fact that the 'sunRise' context spans the authentication, request, response and application XML? There's no problem in your mind with returning NodeLists from across them? Hmm, no - the Nodes itself have to be copied before, so the application can not accidentally change the nodes. If not, I just might send that patch ;-) Great! Thoughts for doing multiple roles: + comma separated list of roles inside role (yes, sounds flaky doesn't it). It's not a nice solution, but should work. And you mentioned above that the portal will accept comma delimited roles within role already (e.g. it isn't doing an equals() but some kind of tokenization? Ok, it will not work. + add to the data section Yes, this is the solution others use (afaik). Really? Others have done this? Anyone posted anything? I know customers of us which did this. Aside: what contexts (besides 'sunRise') is the SessionContextImpl used instead of SimpleSessionContext? What do you mean? Why the SessionContextImpl is used instead of the SimpleSessionContext? Well, that is the question really. But I'm also curious if I use sunshine:getxml when I'm hitting SimpleSessionContext and when I'm hitting SessionContextImpl. In fact, you don't have to distinguish - it makes no difference when using the context. One note about multiple roles: The authentication framework was designed with the idea that a user has only one role at a time. She is either admin, user or guest - but not all at the same time. Of course a user can have different roles over time. But a login specifies exactly one role for the duration of the session. If you look at a portal for example, this makes sense. You have a portal configuration for an admin and one for a usual user. At some point of time you have to decide what portal to display for the user - you can't display both or somehow combine them. So the authentication/role information should be seen as current role - it does not cover the possible roles the user could also have. If someone has a good idea on how to combine these efforts, let's do it. Carsten - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: The same here! ;) El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Not needed Can somebody explain how to run Tomcat on port 80 under user with no root priviledges? Vadim ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sunrise and jdk1.4
-Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 Yes, I have the rights jar in the endorsed directory under java_home\lib\jre\endorsed. I am using Tomcat 4.1.8-LE-1.4 and cocoon from CVS. Any ideas? It should be java_home\jre\lib\endorsed. Sorry I mistyped it in my mail. I double checked it, but still not working :-| Johann Carsten - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Not needed Can somebody explain how to run Tomcat on port 80 under user with no root priviledges? Under Linux, you can use VERY simple iptables rules. And there are free tools to make that too. And patches so you can declare ports under 1024 to be accessible to non-root people. Open source your mind! - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
ROSSEL Olivier wrote: I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. It is quite impressive. Very very advanced stuff !!! How it compares to Tamino and Xindice? What are the cool features (in a nutshell ;)? Vadim Buy some RAM and let's go :-) PS: BTW? what's the price of Oracle? :-) -Message d'origine- De: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Date: mercredi 14 août 2002 15:05 À: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Objet: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sunrise and jdk1.4
Ok, I'm not sure but I think someone mentioned some days (weeks?) ago that you have to set a property (or configuration) for Tomcat to really use the endorsed library. Does anyone know something about this? Carsten -Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 -Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 Yes, I have the rights jar in the endorsed directory under java_home\lib\jre\endorsed. I am using Tomcat 4.1.8-LE-1.4 and cocoon from CVS. Any ideas? It should be java_home\jre\lib\endorsed. Sorry I mistyped it in my mail. I double checked it, but still not working :-| Johann Carsten - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
-Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:05 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: Artur Bialecki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Cocoon right now (2.0.3) has no good way to handle errors generated by J2EE business logic. can you elaborate this in a little more details? I don't quite get what you mean by that, sorry All I'm saying is that logicsheets which are used during generation of server pages are not the best palce to call J2EE business logic. EJBs can throw many exceptions and by the time you get to generation all you can do is transform on your errors so in the simplest form your stylesheet must be able to handle all possible errors generated on the given page. I consider an internal redirection much better approach to handling errors, e.g. On error I can redirect back to the original form. Gets even worse if you EJBs have input on which stylesheet to use, e.g. If inventory item foo (business object) has stylehseet hint then use it, otherwise use default_inventory_item.xsl. Way I can get around this is to process my XSP which uses logicsheets with calls to J2EE beans before generation starts. Artur... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. It is quite impressive. Very very advanced stuff !!! How it compares to Tamino and Xindice? What are the cool features (in a nutshell ;)? I dunno Tamino. I hope I will have the time to test Xindice. Oracle 9iR2 has a XML repository accesible vie Webdav, HTTP and FTP. It handles foldering, versionning. It has schema validation system, and (automatic or manual) schema-based XML-SQL mapping. XPath functions are accessible inside SQL queries. And queries can provide XML as output. I am currently investigating mapping SQL queries to HTTP URLs. So we can use a simple Http generator to get XML from Oracle. This is a (very) simplified overview. I have not made stretch test yet. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: Message I meant "manually" meaning "not with GUI deplpoyers". sorry, for misunderstanding. of course we use Ant, when it's possible -Original Message-From: Hunsberger, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 10:32 AMTo: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: sexy open source I always deploy EJBs "manually". jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much difference. Why on earth would you do manual deploys? ANT is sexy!
RE: sexy open source
--- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:2) Programming language Java 1.4 works fine with C 2.0.3 OK, I will give it a try right now. What about C2.1 (just that little satan inside me)? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service More people are familiar with Tomcat. Me too! Just that ... JBoss doesn't like it that much. Again, fault of using JBoss at all? JBoss works fine with Tomcat we use JBoss 2.4.4 with Tomcat 4.0.4. Start with the integrated build, copy the newer Tomcat on top of the Catalina directory. Yes, it worked also for me (with some customization because of XML parser), but I wanted to use JBoss 3.0.1 and then it was dead end to integrate Cocoon. But I'm very curious: Do you use J2EE as datasource in Cocoon to cooperate with JBoss regarding business logic? Please, please, elaborate on it! 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Not needed. Is configuring Tomcat secure enough for example in case of DoS attacks? Apache is probably reasonable for a production environment. In particular, for serving static content it would be better than Tomcat. I don't plan to have any static content, because all of the design (at least) should go through Cocoon XSL transformer. Anyway, I think it is reasonable (although not required) to have Apache as frontend sitting on HTTP and HTTPS just because it is the most stable and tested web server and also sites other than those from Cocoon could be put in separate subdomain.. Does anyone use pure Tomcat on production site with success? Thank you for your valuable responses, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
To add to this. Oracle 9i now has a native XMLType which is really a CLOB. However, it doesn't have the normal limitations of a CLOB -- you can use XPATH for selection and for indexing, a great improvement in my opinion. However, a drawback remains in that you are still unable to select individual nodes and attributes within the CLOB, so your SQL has to return the document as a whole. Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle is for 1.2, thus lacking regular expression support. Also, XML has to be updated as a whole, as Oracle still has nothing like XUpdate. Oracle is catching up to Xindice but still a ways back, in my opinion. From: ROSSEL Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2002 17:10:03 +0200 I am currently studying XML DB features of Oracle 9iR2. It is quite impressive. Very very advanced stuff !!! How it compares to Tamino and Xindice? What are the cool features (in a nutshell ;)? I dunno Tamino. I hope I will have the time to test Xindice. Oracle 9iR2 has a XML repository accesible vie Webdav, HTTP and FTP. It handles foldering, versionning. It has schema validation system, and (automatic or manual) schema-based XML-SQL mapping. XPath functions are accessible inside SQL queries. And queries can provide XML as output. I am currently investigating mapping SQL queries to HTTP URLs. So we can use a simple Http generator to get XML from Oracle. This is a (very) simplified overview. I have not made stretch test yet. I-Lin Kuo Macromedia Certified ColdFusion 5.0 Advanced Developer Sun Certified Java 2 Programmer Ann Arbor, MI _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
To add to this. Oracle 9i now has a native XMLType which is really a CLOB. However, it doesn't have the normal limitations of a CLOB -- you can use XPATH for selection and for indexing, a great improvement in my opinion. However, a drawback remains in that you are still unable to select individual nodes and attributes within the CLOB, so your SQL has to return the document as a whole. I disagree. XMLType is a abstraction of how the XML is really stored. XMLType is (by default) CLOB. And XPath are real XPath expressions applied on that CLOB. But if you use schema-based storage, you can have your XML internally stored into SQL tables. And XPath queries are rewritten (yes yes!) into corresponding SQL equivalent. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sunrise and jdk1.4
Thanks, I modified my catalina.bat to harcode the endorsed dir and now it works. Thanks Johann - Original Message - From: Carsten Ziegeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:03 PM Subject: RE: sunrise and jdk1.4 Ok, I'm not sure but I think someone mentioned some days (weeks?) ago that you have to set a property (or configuration) for Tomcat to really use the endorsed library. Does anyone know something about this? Carsten -Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 5:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 -Original Message- From: Johann Romefort [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:09 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sunrise and jdk1.4 Yes, I have the rights jar in the endorsed directory under java_home\lib\jre\endorsed. I am using Tomcat 4.1.8-LE-1.4 and cocoon from CVS. Any ideas? It should be java_home\jre\lib\endorsed. Sorry I mistyped it in my mail. I double checked it, but still not working :-| Johann Carsten - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
--- Antonio Gallardo Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Vegan: Can you publish at the end of this survey the results? Sure, I'm eager to do it ASAP. I am newbie too. I am currently ending the last course of a serie of 3 tutorials about Cocoon in the IBM website. ;) You mean the articles available after registration at https://www6.software.ibm.com/developerworks/education/x-cocoon/x-cocoon-6-1.html? need to end a new application using Cocoon for Sept. 1. Nice, right? I am working 18 hours dialy to meet the date. :) Oh yes, I have two months more but probably more complicated application. I wish you (an me) all luck! Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: sexy open source
I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 14:53 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: sexy open source Hi cocooners, Now that I have your attention, I would like to discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable applications with open-source only and how far one could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some discussion going. I think many of you have reached some status quo which could be of great service to all the newcomers. Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet another everyday technology-related problems and there is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is some solution that could be achieved with open source and it waits to be discovered. It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, with professional design, able to serve without interruption even by ongoing changes and high user traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose here may be universal enough to be equally worth also for many other means. If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being concrete: 1) Operating system Proposal: Linux Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for further points. 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 3) Application framework Proposal: JBoss 3.x Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving scallability for the site. What concrete parts of JBoss are involved, is very OT here. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer similar if not same functionality. This is a point I would like to discuss further. 6) Content Persistence Proposal: stand-alone XIndice Remarks: This component should be used only for content without business logic, outside J2EE, for example for simple static content editing templates and external content syndicate subscription. Simply for everything that's too light to be served by deep application logic. Did anybody use it already? That's a question. 7) Content Framework Proposal: Cocoon, what else :) Remarks: The task of Cocoon is to separate Logic from Design, what it should be good at. I want to get more detailed here: Starting with structured XSP, xincluding or transforming (what is better?) parts of final site together, using taglib logicsheets for access to business logic that is delegated to J2EE (did anybody here got it working?), other taglib for content persistence and yet other for reused content elements. The XSP should contain as little Java as possible, all hrefs should be good organized with sitemap and XForm could be used for user inputs (are we so far?). XSP should somehow incorporate JAAS from JBoss for user authorisation to access the documents (anybody tried this?) The result of multiple transformations is then complete site as XML, that is further processed
RE: sexy open source
Hi folks, I don't care for JBoss that much but would like to have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? Please, give us your secrets! Thanks, Peter. --- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I always deploy EJBs manually. jBoss is easier to write deployment descriptors, yes. otherwise there's not much difference. Why on earth would you do manual deploys? ANT is sexy! We do a ANT build that automatically deploys a new EAR through jBoss. In 90 seconds I can have a complete new build running with no manual intervention other than to invoke ANT. That includes over 300 Java files in the EJB source (including data classes) and another 120 or so on the application side. Having jBoss hot deploy your EJB's and your application is one of those things that makes incremental development a reality... __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: I-Lin Kuo [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle is for 1.2, thus lacking regular expression support. not an issue, ORO is no worse than Jdk 1.4's regexps
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source My BIG question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? the same way as from any other servlet container or client, I guess. I wouldn't put EJB calls inside lgicsheet itself in XSP, probably. I'd use helper classes. from regular components, such as generators, lookup JNDI and do whatever you do in your regular client EJB code.
RE: sexy open source
* XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) Did they released the beta version of Xopus2 yet? - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: sexy open source
Not yet, but they told me, that it will be out in a few weeks. I tried out the demo which worked already with Mozilla under Linux :-) -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: ROSSEL Olivier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 17:39 An: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Betreff: RE: sexy open source * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) Did they released the beta version of Xopus2 yet? - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Q] SunRise roles?
Carsten, I'm going to rush this next sentence out because I know that you're done for the day and then I won't have ideas to work on while you're away :-), then I'll reply to your previous note. I think that the restriction you describe (one role per user) means that the SunRise authentication is potentially mis-using the word 'role'. You're using it to denote a profile name, nothing more. It'll never really replace (or integrate with) roles in the Servlet or permissions sense if it's restricted to one role at a time. Now on to reply... Per - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Hi Artur, --- Artur Bialecki [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: All I'm saying is that logicsheets which are used during generation of server pages are not the best palce to call J2EE business logic. EJBs can throw many exceptions and by the time you get to generation all you can do is transform on your errors so in the simplest form your stylesheet must be able to handle all possible errors generated on the given page. I consider an internal redirection much better approach to handling errors, e.g. On error I can redirect back to the original form. Gets even worse if you EJBs have input on which stylesheet to use, e.g. If inventory item foo (business object) has stylehseet hint then use it, otherwise use default_inventory_item.xsl. Way I can get around this is to process my XSP which uses logicsheets with calls to J2EE beans before generation starts. I have to try to understand twice your advanced description, but in summary it looks like you invested much time to find the solution and yet there is something what disturbs you, right? Could you post some source code snipets to hungry wolves here? Could you elaborate more on your current and ideal solution, pros and cons? I know your time is valuable, but maybe there will be some benefits for you too. Thank you in advance, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [Q] SunRise roles?
Aside: if I return a list of comma separated roles could the portal still be made to work? Yes, it should still work. The portal knows enough to tokenize the role string? Rethinking about this, it's a little bit difficult. The portal uses the role name to build the profile, which means a profile for the role is used in this process. So the portal needs one role to build the profile. Right. Sounds like it's a 'profile selector', not a true role (e.g. not a group, or set of permissions, etc). I can also understand the need for a simplification where each user gets only one profile but couldn't one do something where the user's profile is the union of all profiles from all their roles? - I'm not clear why the SessionContextImpl doesn't implement some of the functions like getNodeList(String path). Reason is simple: Lazy developer. Send a patch :) It's not inherent in the fact that the 'sunRise' context spans the authentication, request, response and application XML? There's no problem in your mind with returning NodeLists from across them? Hmm, no - the Nodes itself have to be copied before, so the application can not accidentally change the nodes. Ah, interesting, I had actually noticed that they were 'live' and was thinking of using that fact. Clearly a no-no :-) You mean: nodes have to be cloned to be returned in the list. If not, I just might send that patch ;-) Great! Time permitting ;-) Thoughts for doing multiple roles: + comma separated list of roles inside role (yes, sounds flaky doesn't it). It's not a nice solution, but should work. And you mentioned above that the portal will accept comma delimited roles within role already (e.g. it isn't doing an equals() but some kind of tokenization? Ok, it will not work. + add to the data section Yes, this is the solution others use (afaik). Really? Others have done this? Anyone posted anything? I know customers of us which did this. Ah. Aside: what contexts (besides 'sunRise') is the SessionContextImpl used instead of SimpleSessionContext? What do you mean? Why the SessionContextImpl is used instead of the SimpleSessionContext? Well, that is the question really. But I'm also curious if I use sunshine:getxml when I'm hitting SimpleSessionContext and when I'm hitting SessionContextImpl. In fact, you don't have to distinguish - it makes no difference when using the context. Sure, I understood that, the reason I'm asking is to determine whether or not I need to do the NodeList work discussed above. E.g. if I don't need anything from context ABC and XYZ and those are the only two that use SessionContextImpl (which doesn't return NodeLists) then I may not bother doing the work discussed above. One note about multiple roles: The authentication framework was designed with the idea that a user has only one role at a time. She is either admin, user or guest - but not all at the same time. Of course a user can have different roles over time. But a login specifies exactly one role for the duration of the session. If you look at a portal for example, this makes sense. You have a portal configuration for an admin and one for a usual user. At some point of time you have to decide what portal to display for the user - you can't display both or somehow combine them. So the authentication/role information should be seen as current role - it does not cover the possible roles the user could also have. If someone has a good idea on how to combine these efforts, let's do it. I think the portal's needs are a separate question from correctly implementing roles so that SunRise is actually a complete login/authentication package. If multiple roles aren't possible, for example, I'll have to use container managed security to get multiple roles and then I won't have all the great session and config management stuff you did. I think that both needs can be met by: - extending roles to allow multiple roles (either through comma separated list of roles in current authentication schema or through a different schema [e.g. rolesrole.../role/roles]) - extending the authentication schema to identify which role determines the profile to use in the portal. E.g. authenticationprofilefoobar/profile.../authentication That should be a separate concern of just the portal code. - lastly, integrating with container managed security would be a real nice to have. Comments? Per - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: sexy open source
Greetings, Andreas, Wow, what a nice bunch of interesting links! Seems like I forgot to cover quite much of open-source project/customer/workflow management possibilities in typical (?) new age company in my listing. Some of them I knew about before, others I'm downloading now to check out, summarize and comment on. Seems like I get not to serious work today and tomorrow, but I like it! I'm definitelly going to post very long elaboration on this topic tomorrow... Thank you, Peter. --- Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: sexy open source
We will wait for . ;) Antonio El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 10:20, Vegan Portal escribió: Greetings, Andreas, Wow, what a nice bunch of interesting links! Seems like I forgot to cover quite much of open-source project/customer/workflow management possibilities in typical (?) new age company in my listing. Some of them I knew about before, others I'm downloading now to check out, summarize and comment on. Seems like I get not to serious work today and tomorrow, but I like it! I'm definitelly going to post very long elaboration on this topic tomorrow... Thank you, Peter. --- Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
I don't care for JBoss that much but would like to
have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG
question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON?
Please, give us your secrets!
Didn't I just answer this? Nothing special is required: define your EJB's
to jBoss as normal. Deploy the EJBs along with the Cocoon servlet as part of
an ear through jBoss. The Cocoon code can then see anything in the EJB jar.
We mostly use proxy code to wrap the EJB references, but you could call them
directly from your code.
We do cache our EJB references using code like:
Foo foo = (Foo)EJBUtil.getFooBLHome().create().getFoo(fData);
Where EJBUtil has code like:
public static FooBLHome getFooBLHome()
throws BackEndException {
try {
return
(FooBLHome)ResourceFactory.getFactory().lookUpHome(FooBLHome.class);
} catch (NamingException e) {
throw new BackEndException(e.getMessage());
}
}
and ResourceFactory is just a singleton that keeps a hash map of the
references. No need to jump through these hoops if you're not pounding on
the EJB references a lot...
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RE: sexy open source
--- Argyn Kuketayev [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: -Original Message- From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:35 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source My BIG question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON? the same way as from any other servlet container or client, I guess. I thought that, there is hardly any other possibility AFAIK. I wouldn't put EJB calls inside lgicsheet itself in XSP, probably. I'd use helper classes. Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! a) Explain if there is really working possibility to have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one could access it directly or is it bad idea as such? b) What are the interfaces of these classes, do you have to write them manually, what do you need to deploy them into running system (if possible), do you use xsp:logic to declare and access them from Cocoon? from regular components, such as generators, lookup JNDI and do whatever you do in your regular client EJB code. How do you configure JNDI for that? What is the whole big scenario you are using EJBs in? I hope you'll be generous with us :) Thank you in advance, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: i18n:attr processing problem (ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException)
From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] This is not a bug of i18n transformer. If you see, the problem comes from the org.xml.sax.helpers.AttributesImpl.removeAttribute(AttributesI mpl.java:439). This is known bug in Xerces and it was fixed in latest versions. So, there are two ways of solving this problem: - upgrade to a newer version of Xerces if possible (this is the best solution) - hack i18n transformer and comment out the 'removeAttribute()' call from translateAttributes() (Reminder for myself: Create a FAQ entry on this topic.) Done. See http://outerthought.net/wiki/Edit.jsp?page=FAQs KP -- Konstantin Piroumian [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: KOZLOV Roman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:10 AM To: Cocoon users mail list Subject: i18n:attr processing problem (ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException) Hi, It seems that there is a bug in the i18n transformer. 1. Configuration: JDK1.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, Tomcat 4.0.4 2. Bug description: - I've pipeline like xml - i18n transformer - serializer; - XML source contains an element like input i18n:attr=value value=somekey type=reset/ Note: order of attributes is significant. - Such a pipeline crashes with the java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException : Original exception : java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException at java.lang.System.arraycopy(Native Method) at org.xml.sax.helpers.AttributesImpl.removeAttribute(AttributesI mpl.java:439) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.translateAttr ibutes(I18nTransformer.java:1146) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.startElement( I18nTransformer.java:868) . . . 3. The same problem is occured when an element with i18n:attr is created during xsl transformation, but with reversing order of attributes, for example: input type=reset value=somekey i18n:attr=value/ because after xsl transformation attributes in its result are appeared in reversed order 4. WORKAROUND: for XML (first case) - set i18n:attr as the last attribute of an element; for XSL (second case) - set i18n:attr as the first attribute of an element. Best regards, Roman - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: i18n:attr processing problem (ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException)
From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] From: Piroumian Konstantin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] This is not a bug of i18n transformer. If you see, the problem comes from the org.xml.sax.helpers.AttributesImpl.removeAttribute(AttributesI mpl.java:439). This is known bug in Xerces and it was fixed in latest versions. So, there are two ways of solving this problem: - upgrade to a newer version of Xerces if possible (this is the best solution) - hack i18n transformer and comment out the 'removeAttribute()' call from translateAttributes() (Reminder for myself: Create a FAQ entry on this topic.) Done. See http://outerthought.net/wiki/Edit.jsp?page=FAQs Oops. The correct link is this: http://outerthought.net/wiki/Wiki.jsp?page=FAQs Sorry. KP -- Konstantin Piroumian [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: KOZLOV Roman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:10 AM To: Cocoon users mail list Subject: i18n:attr processing problem (ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException) Hi, It seems that there is a bug in the i18n transformer. 1. Configuration: JDK1.4, Cocoon 2.0.3, Tomcat 4.0.4 2. Bug description: - I've pipeline like xml - i18n transformer - serializer; - XML source contains an element like input i18n:attr=value value=somekey type=reset/ Note: order of attributes is significant. - Such a pipeline crashes with the java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException : Original exception : java.lang.ArrayIndexOutOfBoundsException at java.lang.System.arraycopy(Native Method) at org.xml.sax.helpers.AttributesImpl.removeAttribute(AttributesI mpl.java:439) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.translateAttr ibutes(I18nTransformer.java:1146) at org.apache.cocoon.transformation.I18nTransformer.startElement( I18nTransformer.java:868) . . . 3. The same problem is occured when an element with i18n:attr is created during xsl transformation, but with reversing order of attributes, for example: input type=reset value=somekey i18n:attr=value/ because after xsl transformation attributes in its result are appeared in reversed order 4. WORKAROUND: for XML (first case) - set i18n:attr as the last attribute of an element; for XSL (second case) - set i18n:attr as the first attribute of an element. Best regards, Roman - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Thank you, Peter, for this: --- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: We do not use J2EE as Cocoon datasources directly. Our application logic is invoked as Cocoon generators, Cocoon actions and in some cases as XSLT extensions. All of our code, in theory, could be ported to a framework other than Cocoon, the only issue being replacing the sitemap (most likely that would be done as explicit switch statements in a servlet) and in fact started life running from a highly modified version of the LotusXSL servlet many years ago... As a result, the application code invokes the J2EE code through proxy classes. The J2EE code then resolves any other datasources from the jBoss JNDI definitions and Cocoon is not aware of what is going on. Seems like very nice and scallable solution for me, but I still have lasting questions: a) Did you ever try to migrate to JBoss 3x? b) Do you have to write the proxies for every EJB manually or is there automatized solution? c) Are you able to use load balancing and other administration of JBoss fully with no negatives on running system? d) Do the efforts with J2EE pay off really better performance and manageability against simple Tomcat approach according your experience? e) Do you use JBoss in any custom or standarized means also for authentification and authorisation for Cocoon resources or would it be too complicated to implement? Last, but not least: f) Would you be so nice to post some (almost out of the box) working demo illustrating your application workflow? I think I'm going to owe you much :) Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
--- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
schrieb: I don't care for JBoss that much but
would like to
have J2EE for business logic scalability. My BIG
question is - HOW DO YOU ACCESS EJBs FROM COCOON?
Please, give us your secrets!
Didn't I just answer this? Nothing special is
required:
Sorry I got lasting on this, I answered before reading
your next reply.
I think this is what I needed to try it out, I promise
to get back to you with my curiosity only after I get
it roughly working for me.
define your EJB's
to jBoss as normal. Deploy the EJBs along with the
Cocoon servlet as part of
an ear through jBoss. The Cocoon code can then see
anything in the EJB jar.
We mostly use proxy code to wrap the EJB references,
but you could call them
directly from your code.
We do cache our EJB references using code like:
Foo foo =
(Foo)EJBUtil.getFooBLHome().create().getFoo(fData);
Where EJBUtil has code like:
public static FooBLHome getFooBLHome()
throws BackEndException {
try {
return
(FooBLHome)ResourceFactory.getFactory().lookUpHome(FooBLHome.class);
} catch (NamingException e) {
throw new BackEndException(e.getMessage());
}
}
and ResourceFactory is just a singleton that keeps a
hash map of the
references. No need to jump through these hoops if
you're not pounding on
the EJB references a lot...
Thank you a lot,
Peter.
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RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! a) Explain if there is really working possibility to have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one could access it directly or is it bad idea as such? if you deploy cocoon.war inside your application's .ear file you'll see everything, even EJBs, not to mention datasources. when cocoon is deployed on your appserver, you can get an InitialContext of the JNDI server even easier, if it was a standalone app. I simply don't see a problem at all. I didn't have a necessity to call EJBs from Cocoon components yet, but I don't see any technical issues here. There could be issues with exception handling, as Arthur mentioned. When XSP is compiled, it has to handle all exceptions. So, Arthur wrote that it's better to make EJB calls before rendering the page, in order to be able to dispatch the request to other pages when errors come. Otherwise, it's not a big deal to call EJB from inside Cocoon. sorry, no code attached :)
RE: sexy open source
--- Argyn Kuketayev [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! a) Explain if there is really working possibility to have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one could access it directly or is it bad idea as such? if you deploy cocoon.war inside your application's .ear file you'll see everything, even EJBs, not to mention datasources. The problem is I did not get anything working with combination of newest release versions of JBoss/Tomcat/Cocoon, but perhaps I should go back to JBoss 2.4.x and forget new features/bugs. when cocoon is deployed on your appserver, you can get an InitialContext of the JNDI server even easier, if it was a standalone app. I simply don't see a problem at all. I didn't have a necessity to call EJBs from Cocoon components yet, but I don't see any technical issues here. There could be issues with exception handling, as Arthur mentioned. When XSP is compiled, it has to handle all exceptions. So, Arthur wrote that it's better to make EJB calls before rendering the page, in order to be able to dispatch the request to other pages when errors come. Otherwise, it's not a big deal to call EJB from inside Cocoon. sorry, no code attached :) I really hope there's no problem. Because of my initial problems with even installing it and no luck finding any hints in all possible mail archives, I wondered if anybody uses the combination at all. Now that I know it is there, it's now my turn to give it a serious try and report the whole process to anybody interested. Thank you, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
From: ROSSEL Olivier [EMAIL PROTECTED] But if you use schema-based storage, you can have your XML internally stored into SQL tables. And XPath queries are rewritten (yes yes!) into corresponding SQL equivalent. That's on the feature list, but is it implemented yet? If so, where? In XSU? The only examples I can find on this are ones where the table has already been defined and you're just loading a chunk of XML. That doesn't seem like schema-based storage, as Oracle isn't even touching the DTD or XSD. It's just doing a direct mapping of an XML document into an object. Is there more to this? _ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
a) Did you ever try to migrate to JBoss 3x? JBoss 3 was still alpha when we started this release cycle. Jan./Feb. will be our first chance to consider using it. b) Do you have to write the proxies for every EJB manually or is there automatized solution? We manually write the code. 90% of the time it's just thin layer wrappers, but every once in a while there is some other encapsulation. In particular, polymorphic methods that all populate the same data class for retrieval but in different ways. There are some philosophical differences on how pure a proxy should be. Personally, I don't have a problem with a proxy interpreting my intentions with a slightly different implementation then I may be aware of. For me, that's one of the benefits of using a proxy. b) Are you able to use load balancing and other administration of JBoss fully with no negatives on running system? Pretty much so. However, currently all production deployments are still on Websphere with scheduled down time. This will change once the current release makes it to production, but so far there are no plans to build a hot fail over environment. d) Do the efforts with J2EE pay off really better performance and manageability against simple Tomcat approach according your experience? Architectures are based on business needs. (If you'd like to pay me to analyze your business requirements and determine the appropriate architecture for your needs I might be open to offers...) For our case the business requirements don't necessarily dictate a J2EE architecture and the learning curve was sufficiently long that knowing what we know now we might not have done it. However, having climbed the learning curve there is definitely no reason to go back. e) Do you use JBoss in any custom or standarized means also for authentification and authorisation for Cocoon resources or would it be too complicated to implement? We're doing custom authentication. We've looked at realm based authentication but we have a complex security model in a complex application and so far there hasn't been a good fit. f) Would you be so nice to post some (almost out of the box) working demo illustrating your application workflow? Sorry, I can't do that. The application is a) proprietary, and b) still under development. There are over 500 Java classes, over 10 generic XSLT and a highly abstracted, highly normalized schema covering some 50 tables. The architecture document is over 200 pages and would barely get down to the level of detail that you want... There is no preset workflow within the application (it's a generic application for capturing the results of Clinical Trials), - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
From: Argyn Kuketayev [EMAIL PROTECTED] Another drawback is that the Java API provided by Oracle is for 1.2, thus lacking regular expression support. not an issue, ORO is no worse than Jdk 1.4's regexps You're probably right, as I haven't tried ORO. But personally, I'd prefer Sun's version in 1.4, whenever possible. I-Lin Kuo Macromedia Certified ColdFusion 5.0 Advanced Developer Sun Certified Java 2 Programmer Ann Arbor, MI _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: How to translate?
Hi, the thread is quite old... but anyway, I've tried to make the stylesheet (please tell me if it is right, by the way how could I avoid that xmlns:i18n in each generated tag?). I don't understand some things. I create a messages.xml file which looks like (I'd prefer not to use simple keys but the original text, I don't think I can find a name for each element in the site): catalogue i18n:lang=ca message key=maybe a very very long textmaybe a very very long text/message /catalogue That's right. This is the file in the same language as the site. Then I make a couple of copies of it and name it messages_ca.xml (the original language) and messages_es.xml (because I want to translate it into spanish). I translate this file: catalogue i18n:lang=es message key=maybe a very very long texttranslation of the text/message /catalogue And now what? You said I don't need anything else but in the sitemap I need to tell only one dictionary... Do I need to merge both files into one dictionary? How do I tell through the sitemap which language to use? I suppose you only create one messages file for the hole site merging multiple messages files... and you refresh it with another stylesheet.. am I right? Well... can't think of more questions right now ;) Thanks in advance! From: Albert Cervera Areny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, I've been looking at the i18n transformer in the documentation web page, however I can't see how it works in production. I got the idea that it works let's say like gettext as you mark which parts you want to translate and generate a file with those messages if so... how can I do that easily? I've been looking throw those convert and merge xsl files but they don't seem to generate it. I was able to create a file to translate into one new language from the simple_dict.xml example but how may I create it from scratch? Seems that your are looking for my text2messages.xsl that I have on my harddrive at home ;). But I don't think that you'll have problems in creating such a stylesheet yourself if you are familiar with XSLT. You just have to generate message key=text/message elements from the all 'i18n:text' and all the attributes that are listed in 'i18n:attr' attribute. If you don't hurry then I'll send my stylesheet to you tomorrow. These two files, messages and dictionary, are the ones that make me not to understand the hole process. The process is this: - you create a content file and mark some parts of it by 'i18n:text' and 'i18n:attr' - run a stylesheet that generates you an empty dictionary file - you add your translations to that dictionary (say message_de.xml) - place it in the message catalog (say in the 'translations' directory) - enjoy Could someone clarify those aspects or point me to a better resource? I think that I'm the best resource to ask about i18n. Tell me if you have any problems with it. Konstantin Thanks in advance! -- Albert Cervera Areny Dept. Informàtica Sedifa, S.L. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Albert Cervera Areny Dept. Informàtica Sedifa, S.L. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
From:Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi Manos, Finally, someone that says hi to people. Wow, this thread got a lot of attention. Unfortunatelly I am home and I won't go over those messages via a web based interface (that's the only way to view them from home). I chast subscribed with this addy instead. I will keep our context in my reply and do an overall comment sometime tommorow. --- Manos Batsis [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x 1.4 is better IMHO. Well, it should be, but I've seen several people here reporting problems already with Cocoon alone, not to mention other components. That's because you had to build Cocoon using JDK1.4 to for some things to work, namelly database access. What version of Cocoon to take? cocoon-2.0.3-vm14-bin.zip (win32) cocoon-2.0.3-vm14-bin.tar.gz (linux) 4) Business Logic Persistence [...] I did not get PostgreSQL working under JBoss, probably my fault or the fault of using JBoss at all. Unfortunatelly, I have no experience whatsoever with JBoss. I also like PostgreSQL more, but then: What free DB Management for Linux/Windows do you use? Usually MySQL, but that's mostly because of habit and web administration via PHPMyAdmin. More people are familiar with Tomcat. Me too! Just that ... JBoss doesn't like it that much. Again, fault of using JBoss at all? Actually, there's a bundle of JBoss with a version of Tomcat at JBoss.org. No clue about setting those two up together but I know people in this list have done so; perhaps someone should do a good thing and supply with the documentation for this (item 1 ;-) dynamically created using SVG (anybody?) Sure ;-) You are probably ironic here regarding the complexity of SVG. On the contrary, I love SVG. But if it could spare the great deal of designers work on creating reusable vector-based graphics that are then serialized to appropriate format, depending on client capabilities. I've put some very simple SVG generation together and it is an inferno, but I dream about making it mature enough for production, although I'm afraid the results may be not worth the time put into it and designers love their Adobe/Gimp .and hate XML. JascWebdraw is good, but if you have a markup/web authoring background you are better with a good text editor. I don't know about open source projects on the SVG editor area. 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Not needed. Is configuring Tomcat secure enough for example in case of DoS attacks? Sorry, out of my territory. Project Management: PHPMyProject No files released. Try phpcollab. True. Thank you for suggestion. Pretty cool. Even has Gant charts. Instalation was a little hard on windows. You mean some group of crazy people should be put together and make the ultimate environment true? Hey, it's a geek fashion ;-) Seriously now, it's a big task and will require people to through in some brains, experience and hours of work. Worst of all, it will require us to be serious and eager to do the job. Kindest regards, Manos
RE: How to translate?
snip (please tell me if it is right, by the way how could I avoid that xmlns:i18n in each generated tag?). /snip ...with the exclude-result-prefixes attribute in xsl:stylesheet element ? Best regards, - Luca Morandini GIS Consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://utenti.tripod.it/lmorandini/index.html - -Original Message- From: Albert Cervera Areny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 7:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: How to translate? Hi, the thread is quite old... but anyway, I've tried to make the stylesheet (please tell me if it is right, by the way how could I avoid that xmlns:i18n in each generated tag?). I don't understand some things. I create a messages.xml file which looks like (I'd prefer not to use simple keys but the original text, I don't think I can find a name for each element in the site): catalogue i18n:lang=ca message key=maybe a very very long textmaybe a very very long text/message /catalogue That's right. This is the file in the same language as the site. Then I make a couple of copies of it and name it messages_ca.xml (the original language) and messages_es.xml (because I want to translate it into spanish). I translate this file: catalogue i18n:lang=es message key=maybe a very very long texttranslation of the text/message /catalogue And now what? You said I don't need anything else but in the sitemap I need to tell only one dictionary... Do I need to merge both files into one dictionary? How do I tell through the sitemap which language to use? I suppose you only create one messages file for the hole site merging multiple messages files... and you refresh it with another stylesheet.. am I right? Well... can't think of more questions right now ;) Thanks in advance! From: Albert Cervera Areny [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Hi, I've been looking at the i18n transformer in the documentation web page, however I can't see how it works in production. I got the idea that it works let's say like gettext as you mark which parts you want to translate and generate a file with those messages if so... how can I do that easily? I've been looking throw those convert and merge xsl files but they don't seem to generate it. I was able to create a file to translate into one new language from the simple_dict.xml example but how may I create it from scratch? Seems that your are looking for my text2messages.xsl that I have on my harddrive at home ;). But I don't think that you'll have problems in creating such a stylesheet yourself if you are familiar with XSLT. You just have to generate message key=text/message elements from the all 'i18n:text' and all the attributes that are listed in 'i18n:attr' attribute. If you don't hurry then I'll send my stylesheet to you tomorrow. These two files, messages and dictionary, are the ones that make me not to understand the hole process. The process is this: - you create a content file and mark some parts of it by 'i18n:text' and 'i18n:attr' - run a stylesheet that generates you an empty dictionary file - you add your translations to that dictionary (say message_de.xml) - place it in the message catalog (say in the 'translations' directory) - enjoy Could someone clarify those aspects or point me to a better resource? I think that I'm the best resource to ask about i18n. Tell me if you have any problems with it. Konstantin Thanks in advance! -- Albert Cervera Areny Dept. Informàtica Sedifa, S.L. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Albert Cervera Areny Dept. Informàtica Sedifa, S.L. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail:
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: sexy open source Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a database for information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data. why? if it updates really rarely, you may cach it in your appserver or anywhere else in the memory. frequency of updates itself is not a reason to go into dark forests of ldap from the shiny fields of RDBMS
Motivation and resources (was: sexy open source)
Well, I went over the messages after all :-) I was very happy to see the feedback this thread keeps getting, but I would like to realize the actual interest behind it. The first thing we may want to look up is motivation. It's very sad to see threads like this going nowhere; here we are, a bunch of clever people here; why not help eachother? Again, I strongly believe that motivation is the first element to build here and to do that, we probably have to state some aims. I'll go first ;-) My interest behind this among other things is experience. It's impossible to learn something without actually having some task at hand. My next motive is implementation of ideas; one man cannot implement and explore much while earning a living at the same time. Some men (and women of course!) can do it together though. What would draws me in this development is information management in general. It may be about documents, fragments, user data, workflow, whatever. About resources now, I see that there are people with wich I cannot compete in J2EE development. But I have solid experience with web development and authoring in general, with strenghts being client side apps and most things XML, including XSLT, Schemas and metadata. Wanting to see the possibilities here, Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Argyn Kuketayev wrote: From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a database for information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data. why? if it updates really rarely, you may cach it in your appserver or anywhere else in the memory. frequency of updates itself is not a reason to go into dark forests of ldap from the shiny fields of RDBMS Point taken but one can argue that somethings are easier to implement in LDAP than in a database application. I agree about alternative, application specific stores. However, there is no reason to discuss this further while being generic and with no use case in mind; it may be too early to talk about such a use case anyway. Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
search components in cocoon.xconf
Hello, I'm modifying the example lucene searching classes that come with cocoon and will be packaging my version up as a jar and using it. I can see that if I want to use my search components from an XSP page, I would simply need to modify the xsp:include tags in the xsp page to reference my package. My question is, what is the role of the cocoon-indexer, cocoon-searcher, cocoon-crawler, and cocoon-xml-indexer tags in the cocoon.xconf file? They only have logger attributes, and do not specify the package the demo searching packages that came with cocoon (i.e. org.apache.cocoon.components.search.*) Are they for logging, as the attribute names imply? Would I need to change anything in those tags to use my custom searching classes? Thanks. __ Do You Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search Thousands of New Jobs http://www.hotjobs.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Speaking of LDAP, Castor open-source project also provide a nice way to access such directory, by the way of DSML. Johann - Original Message - From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:39 PM Subject: Re: sexy open source Argyn Kuketayev wrote: From: Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Indeed, my little know-how says it would be stupid to use a database for information that updates rarelly, such as user authentication data. why? if it updates really rarely, you may cach it in your appserver or anywhere else in the memory. frequency of updates itself is not a reason to go into dark forests of ldap from the shiny fields of RDBMS Point taken but one can argue that somethings are easier to implement in LDAP than in a database application. I agree about alternative, application specific stores. However, there is no reason to discuss this further while being generic and with no use case in mind; it may be too early to talk about such a use case anyway. Manos - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: FOP-0.20.3
This could be an issue with Batik versions. IIRC Cocoon is distributed with some 1.5 version of Batik, while FOP 0.20.3 needs an 1.1 compatible version. What about FOP-0.20.4 or later (CVS) versions? You should get a ClassNotFound or MethodNotFound exceptionin this I think you're right, Tomcat's logfile shows several ... java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/batik/dom/svg/DefaultSVGContext ... Is it possible (without in-depth knowledge) to rebuild FOP with the current batik version and then integrate it into Cocoon? I had no problem configuring/compiling FOP, nevertheless I do not really know how to put this 'puzzle' together. Kind regards, Wolf-Dieter Virus checked by G DATA AntiVirusKit Version: AVK 11.0.330 from 07.08.2002 Virus news: www.antiviruslab.com - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: AW: FOP-0.20.3
Wolf-Dieter Grabner wrote: This could be an issue with Batik versions. IIRC Cocoon is distributed with some 1.5 version of Batik, while FOP 0.20.3 needs an 1.1 compatible version. What about FOP-0.20.4 or later (CVS) versions? 0.20.4 uses 1.5b2, which is still incompatible with 1.5b3 (or vice-versa, experiment). Current CVS is a bit difficult to judge, FOP HEAD does not work (redesign in progress) but will use the latest Batik (CVS too). The maintenance branch (upcoming 0.20.5) still uses the same as 0.20.4 I think. Is it possible (without in-depth knowledge) to rebuild FOP with the current batik version I don't think you'll like it. J.Pietschmann - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
AW: AW: FOP-0.20.3
Is it possible (without in-depth knowledge) to rebuild FOP with the current batik version I don't think you'll like it. ;-) The other way round - how can I 'downgrade' Cocoon to an older batik version (and/or use fop-020.4 instead of -0.20.3). rgrds, wd - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: search components in cocoon.xconf
icewind wrote: Hello, I'm modifying the example lucene searching classes that come with cocoon and will be packaging my version up as a jar and using it. I can see that if I want to use my search components from an XSP page, I would simply need to modify the xsp:include tags in the xsp page to reference my package. My question is, what is the role of the cocoon-indexer, cocoon-searcher, cocoon-crawler, and cocoon-xml-indexer tags in the cocoon.xconf file? They only have logger attributes, and do not specify the package the demo searching packages that came with cocoon (i.e. org.apache.cocoon.components.search.*) Are they for logging, as the attribute names imply? Would I need to change anything in those tags to use my custom searching classes? Look into cocoon.roles files (found inside cocoon.jar), search for cocoon-indexer etc, you will find all missing pieces of the puzzle here. Basically, to define component you have to know class. Class could be default (from roles file) or custom (from class attribute). Vadim Thanks. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
-Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 1:11 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source Please, see me as a newbie and give me some code! a) Explain if there is really working possibility to have J2EE datasource in cocoon's web.xml alone so one could access it directly or is it bad idea as such? if you deploy cocoon.war inside your application's .ear file you'll see everything, even EJBs, not to mention datasources. when cocoon is deployed on your appserver, you can get an InitialContext of the JNDI server even easier, if it was a standalone app. I simply don't see a problem at all. I didn't have a necessity to call EJBs from Cocoon components yet, but I don't see any technical issues here. So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and cocoon, the topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver itself, which pegs you to one front end machine and causes all of your display logic (cocoon) to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic. Is no one using EJB's on a remote (conceptually remote, even if it's on the same machine for now) server from within cocoon? Seems to me that a powerful set up is CocoonServer ... [CocoonServer ... CocoonServer ...] cluster EJBServer RDBMS Of course the EJBServer and database can be clustered too, but you'd need a pretty whopping load before that would be necessary. Geoff - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Title: RE: sexy open source -Original Message- From: Geoff Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:57 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and cocoon, the topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver itself, which pegs you to one front end machine and causes all of your display logic (cocoon) to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic. Is no one using EJB's on a remote (conceptually remote, even if it's on the same machine for now) server from within cocoon? tell me what makes cocoon different from any other client EJB app? I just don't see the difference. if you may call EJBs from remote Java clients, what would prevent you from doing it from Cocoon's components? only thing you need is the proper classpath, with all those client .jar (necessary to obtain JNDI contexts) and remote/home interfaces from the tree.
RE: sexy open source
So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and cocoon, the topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver itself, which pegs you to one front end machine and causes all of your display logic (cocoon) to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic. Is no one using EJB's on a remote (conceptually remote, even if it's on the same machine for now) server from within cocoon? Seems to me that a powerful set up is Assuming you had your JNDI service running correctly the only issue would be packaging up the data classes and the interfaces for Cocoon. That could be a bit of a pain if you had a lot of EJB's and had to manually code the build script to package up the right pieces, but if you're careful with your naming conventions you could probably automate that pretty quickly (for every class that has a Home or Bean suffix you know there's a corresponding class that doesn't have the Home suffix that is the class you want to bundle up for Cocoon). Haven't needed to do this yet, but could be doing so sometime this fall. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Score 2, informative ;-) I guess I'll have to get KDE3. Either that or I have no clue about what is going on in my machine (quite possible). Manos -Original Message- From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 8/14/2002 6:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject:AW: sexy open source I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 14:53 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: sexy open source Hi cocooners, Now that I have your attention, I would like to discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable applications with open-source only and how far one could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some discussion going. I think many of you have reached some status quo which could be of great service to all the newcomers. Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet another everyday technology-related problems and there is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is some solution that could be achieved with open source and it waits to be discovered. It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, with professional design, able to serve without interruption even by ongoing changes and high user traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose here may be universal enough to be equally worth also for many other means. If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being concrete: 1) Operating system Proposal: Linux Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for further points. 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 3) Application framework Proposal: JBoss 3.x Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving scallability for the site. What concrete parts of JBoss are involved, is very OT here. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service Remarks: I know Tomcat is more used, but Jetty is easier to be integrated into JBoss and both offer similar if not same functionality. This is a point I would like to discuss further. 6) Content Persistence Proposal: stand-alone XIndice Remarks: This component should be used only for content without business logic, outside J2EE, for example for simple static content editing templates and external content syndicate subscription. Simply for everything that's too light to be served by deep application logic. Did anybody use it already? That's a question. 7) Content Framework Proposal: Cocoon, what else :) Remarks: The task of Cocoon is to separate Logic from Design, what it should be good at. I want to get more detailed here: Starting with structured XSP, xincluding or transforming (what is better?) parts of final site together, using taglib logicsheets for access to business logic that is delegated to J2EE (did anybody here got it working?), other taglib for content persistence and yet other for reused content elements. The XSP should contain as little
RE: Configure to support virtual directories
well, it may get at cocoon, if you mean for one cocoon instance to be
serving both sites. In this case, you really need to rephrase the question
to have www.abc.com point to {COCOON_WEBAPP_DIR}/abc_cocoon and www.xyz.com
point to {COCOON_WEBAPP_DIR}/xyz_cocoon where these are sub-sitemaps.
After you have abc.com and xyz.com coming to cocoon, you'll have two options
described at
http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/faq-configure-environment.html
either have cocoon setup as the ROOT webapp, or use apache mod_rewrite or
something like it.
after that, you'd most likely use the
org.apache.cocoon.matching.WildcardHostMatcher to do something like
map:match type=host pattern=www.*.com
map:mount check-reload=yes src={1}/ uri-prefix={1}/
map:match
then, you'd have
xyz/sitemap.xmap and
abc/sitemap.xmap
to handle each site individually.
If you, on the other hand need to share many uri's between the sites (as the
project I've been working on)
then you'd need to nest some matchers. For instance, if
www.abc.com/article.html?id=3 needs to be the same as
www.xyz.com/article.html?id=3 but with a different page wrapper, you'd use
the host to determine which xsl to
apply instead of sending them off to a different sitemap.
In this case, you'll want to look into sitemap variables (input modules,
etc) if you start getting into complex
nesting and matching or are unable to reuse your pipeline logic enough.
Is that getting close to what you were looking for?
Geoff Howard
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From: Antonio Gallardo Rivera
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Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 11:02 PM
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Subject: Re: Configure to support virtual directories
Hey, this is not a Cocoon thing. This is a question about the
use of Tomcat or
what ever JSPcontainer you use.
Antonio Gallardo
El Martes, 13 de Agosto de 2002 20:10, Greg Jones escribió:
Does anyone what is required to have Cocoon work as the default
directory for a multiple site environment?
Example would be www.abc.com docBase points to ../webapps/abc_cocoon
And
www.xyz.com docBase points to ../webapps/xyz_cocoon
Will this work? Can there be two instances of cocoon
working like this?
Thanks in advance --
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Re: sexy open source
On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16:44, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: The same here! ;) El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Not needed Can somebody explain how to run Tomcat on port 80 under user with no root priviledges? Hi Vadim your question is a bit off topic but ...OK . I assume that you are taking about Tomcat running on a *nix. All ports below 1024 (correct me if I am wrong the port no.) is reserved for root only. Just run Tomcat on port 8080 and make a port map in your firewall 80-8080 (you would not run a webserver without a firewall WELL...) It is a lot safer to run the server on 8080 you can create a user with nice restricted userrights. Peter Lerche Vadim ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
--- Johann Romefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I am really happy with SAP-DB / Castor for RDBMS Persistence Sorry Johann, that I forgot to reply you before, but this way is very interesting for sure! AFAIK (without checking it out right now), SAP-DB quite new, but probably very evolved RDBMS on open source scene, coming from famous SAP company and getting real good response in the last time. It may be (regarding features) compared to PostgreSQL (with clear open source roots) or Firebird (previously Borland's Interbase, with very complicated history and even more complicated future). I'm very open to give SAP-DB a try, if the JDBC driver is easy to integrate into Cocoon or JBoss and free DB management IDE exists. Any hints from you are highly appreciated. Regarding Castor, my understanding (most probably wrong) is that it is a tool to marshall/unmarshall XML to Java and back. I'm little uncertain about its role inside Cocoon framework (perhaps to serve as DB access tier without using poorly managed ESQL from Cocoon?). Please be kind to describe us your application structure, pros and cons! I your debt, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Hi again! I found some more links at home. So here they are: * UML Modeling: ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) * Version Control System: CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) * IDE: Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) Netbeans (http://www.netbeans.org/) * Job Scheduling: Quartz (http://www.part.net/quartz.html) * Workflow Management (continued): OSWorkflow (http://www.opensymphony.com/osworkflow/) * Search Engine: Apache Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/) * Regression Testing: JUnit (http://www.junit.org/) JXUnit (http://jxunit.sourceforge.net/) JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter) * Build Framework: Ant (http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/) Krysalis Centipede (http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/) * Project Site Management: Apache Forrest (http://xml.apache.org/forrest/) If I find some more projects in my huge unmanaged link mail folder I'll let you know ;-) On Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 20:00, Manos Batsis wrote: Score 2, informative ;-) I guess I'll have to get KDE3. Either that or I have no clue about what is going on in my machine (quite possible). Manos -Original Message- From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 8/14/2002 6:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: AW: sexy open source I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 14:53 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: sexy open source Hi cocooners, Now that I have your attention, I would like to discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable applications with open-source only and how far one could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some discussion going. I think many of you have reached some status quo which could be of great service to all the newcomers. Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet another everyday technology-related problems and there is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is some solution that could be achieved with open source and it waits to be discovered. It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, with professional design, able to serve without interruption even by ongoing changes and high user traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose here may be universal enough to be equally worth also for many other means. If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being concrete: 1) Operating system Proposal: Linux Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for further points. 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 3) Application framework Proposal: JBoss 3.x Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving scallability for the site. What concrete parts of JBoss are involved, is very OT here. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? 5) Web container Proposal: Jetty as JBoss service
Re: sexy open source
Peter Lerche wrote: On Wednesday 14 August 2002 16:44, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Antonio Gallardo Rivera wrote: The same here! ;) El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:02, Manos Batsis escribió: From: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] ... 8) Web frontend Proposal: Apache Remarks: This is only for security reasons - the task of Apache is just to forward the requests. I think more of you are using it, true? Not needed. Not needed Can somebody explain how to run Tomcat on port 80 under user with no root priviledges? Hi Vadim your question is a bit off topic but ...OK . Hey, come on, today is offtopic day! See all these messages fly? None of them are Cocoon related ;-P I assume that you are taking about Tomcat running on a *nix. All ports below 1024 (correct me if I am wrong the port no.) is reserved for root only. I know that, hence the question. Apache can do change uid on its file serving childs, but that's not an option for Java app like Tomcat. Just run Tomcat on port 8080 and make a port map in your firewall 80-8080 (you would not run a webserver without a firewall WELL...) (yes, I use f/wall built into my modem) It is a lot safer to run the server on 8080 you can create a user with nice restricted userrights. That's was my point. So, the answer is: Apache + Tomcat can be replaced with firewall (linux iptables?) + Tomcat. Thanks to Rossel for the hint. Vadim Peter Lerche Vadim ... - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Since we are talking about add-on projects, I would vote for Wyona CMS project; a content management system that sits on top of Cocoon. http://www.wyona.org Andreas Hochsteger wrote: Hi again! I found some more links at home. So here they are: * UML Modeling: ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) * Version Control System: CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) * IDE: Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) Netbeans (http://www.netbeans.org/) * Job Scheduling: Quartz (http://www.part.net/quartz.html) * Workflow Management (continued): OSWorkflow (http://www.opensymphony.com/osworkflow/) * Search Engine: Apache Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/) * Regression Testing: JUnit (http://www.junit.org/) JXUnit (http://jxunit.sourceforge.net/) JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter) * Build Framework: Ant (http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/) Krysalis Centipede (http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/) * Project Site Management: Apache Forrest (http://xml.apache.org/forrest/) If I find some more projects in my huge unmanaged link mail folder I'll let you know ;-) On Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 20:00, Manos Batsis wrote: Score 2, informative ;-) I guess I'll have to get KDE3. Either that or I have no clue about what is going on in my machine (quite possible). Manos -Original Message- From: Hochsteger Andreas /INFO-MA [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wed 8/14/2002 6:32 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Cc: Subject: AW: sexy open source I don't know, if you're interested in that, but I've got some additions to your suggestions: * CRM/ERP System: Compiere (http://www.compiere.org/) * XML Editor for Content Editing: Xopus 2 (http://www.xopus.org/) * Content Management System: Wyona (http://www.wyona.org/) * SVG Editing: Kontour (KDE KOffice Application, http://www.koffice.org/kontour/) * eBusiness Integration Open3 Projects and Components (http://www.open3.org/) * Enterprise Network Management: OpenNMS (http://www.opennms.org/) * Single-Sign-On: Liberty Alliance Standard (no products yet?) * Central User Management: ? * Workflow Management: OpenFlow (http://www.openflow.it/EN/) Open Business Engine (http://www.openbusinessengine.org/) Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) * Instant Messaging: Jabber (http://www.jabber.org/) * Shop/eCommerce Open For Business (http://www.ofbiz.org/) I could imagine even more business areas, where a complete open source based integration would be like heaven. Please give comments, I'm interesting in your suggestions. -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: Vegan Portal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Gesendet: Mittwoch, 14. August 2002 14:53 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: sexy open source Hi cocooners, Now that I have your attention, I would like to discuss the ideal of non-compromised development of full-blown, stable, scallable and manageable applications with open-source only and how far one could get to fulfill this. It is probably little OT on this list, but I think a bunch of very open-minded and progressive folks is here, so I hope I could get some discussion going. I think many of you have reached some status quo which could be of great service to all the newcomers. Nevertheless, everybody is probably tired of yet another bugs, yet another unanswered questions, yet another everyday technology-related problems and there is no end to this. But I have a faith that there is some solution that could be achieved with open source and it waits to be discovered. It starts with what one wants to achieve. For me, it is secure content-centric multi-user roles web portal, with professional design, able to serve without interruption even by ongoing changes and high user traffic. But I think the framework I'd like to propose here may be universal enough to be equally worth also for many other means. If you got so far with me, I'd like to start being concrete: 1) Operating system Proposal: Linux Remarks: One could discuss the distributions or other Unix derivates here, but I think it's irrelevant for further points. 2) Programming language Proposal: pure Java 1.3.1x Remarks: I know many of you are trying 1.4 out, but it may still take some time to be able to be used for production sites. Moreover, many open source technologies were still not ported to 1.4. Correct me if I'm wrong. 3) Application framework Proposal: JBoss 3.x Remarks: This is worth discussion, as many of you use iPlanet or don't use any J2EE or related technologies at all. I think JBoss is good for achieving scallability for the site. What concrete parts of JBoss are involved, is very OT here. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service Remarks: I personally think it is most evolved open-source database now. The problem is, almost nobody uses it, the JDBC driver is beta etc. Next good candidate could be PostgreSQL - with more user support, so maybe better solution. Any ideas? 5) Web
Re: sexy open source
- Original Message - From: Vegan Portal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 11:25 PM Subject: Re: sexy open source --- Johann Romefort [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: I am really happy with SAP-DB / Castor for RDBMS Persistence Sorry Johann, that I forgot to reply you before, but this way is very interesting for sure! AFAIK (without checking it out right now), SAP-DB quite new, but probably very evolved RDBMS on open source scene, coming from famous SAP company and getting real good response in the last time. It may be (regarding features) compared to PostgreSQL (with clear open source roots) or Firebird (previously Borland's Interbase, with very complicated history and even more complicated future). Well, SAP-DB also has a quite complicated history, and was known before as ADABAS. From my personal experience it is the most professional free RDMS that I've ever used (I had more or less happy experiences with postgreSQL, Interbase and Mysql). I found that SAPDB server and tools are far more matured than its open-sources competitor. I'm very open to give SAP-DB a try, if the JDBC driver is easy to integrate into Cocoon or JBoss and free DB management IDE exists. yes, there is a pure java JDBC2 driver, and you get a Win32 Database Administration Tool, a Win32 SQL Studio tool (some interesting features includes visual SQL query composition). About Cocoon I successfully used the ESQL stylesheets with SAP. Any hints from you are highly appreciated. Regarding Castor, my understanding (most probably wrong) is that it is a tool to marshall/unmarshall XML to Java and back. Castor provides you with XML / Object mapping framework, with a JDO (not Sun JDO compatible )part which take OQL query and return Objects based on a mapping file (which can be marshalled as XML), with XMLSchema - Java Source Generator, and finally with LDAP access with the integration of the DSML standard. So I use it like a glue between all my Data Objects, my DB and my XML stuff. I'm little uncertain about its role inside Cocoon framework (perhaps to serve as DB access tier without using poorly managed ESQL from Cocoon?). Well my application is composed of mainly two parts: The first part is the Tomcat/ Cocoon2 machinery The second part is an RMI server running all the workflow of the application and for intance the RDBMS access layer. So, simplifying a bit, my Cocoon frontend lookup my RMIServer in an XSP page, then send the request to the RMI server, which in return invokes the Castor stuff which return data objects back. These objects are then marshalled as XML inside an XSP page and incorporated in the current XML stream. Then I apply the XSL stuff and render the HTML. The only thing with CastorJDO is that the community is moving quite slowly. Anyone who have some experience with other JDO frameworks (OJB, Hibernate ) ? Johann ps: (I'll be away for two days, so I'll get back to your comment on saturday) Please be kind to describe us your application structure, pros and cons! I your debt, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: sexy open source
Hello again, Peter, --- Hunsberger, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: JBoss 3 was still alpha when we started this release cycle. Jan./Feb. will be our first chance to consider using it. Fine. I think till that time is 3rd generation of JBoss mature enough to make easy migration possible. As for now (after I spent two weeks on it), integration of not already preconfigured services (like Cocoon or alien DBs) is very buggy or not documented (even in commercial support), so I beter give up on trying to get it working. b) Do you have to write the proxies for every EJB manually or is there automatized solution? We manually write the code. 90% of the time it's just thin layer wrappers, but every once in a while there is some other encapsulation. In particular, polymorphic methods that all populate the same data class for retrieval but in different ways. There are some philosophical differences on how pure a proxy should be. Personally, I don't have a problem with a proxy interpreting my intentions with a slightly different implementation then I may be aware of. For me, that's one of the benefits of using a proxy. I've awaited this and it is fine with me. Writting little Java to get rid of unfullfilled standard integration problems is a way to go in such a dynamic situation. Maybe the interface gets cleared up and broadly supported in (near) future; my taste of open source is that nobody is eager to support universal access to obsolete but established technologies if there is an innovative solution replacing them... I'm afraid previous sentences make little sense to readers, but English is far of being my mother tongue and it's going late here for me to express such an abstract observation clearly. b) Are you able to use load balancing and other administration of JBoss fully with no negatives on running system? Pretty much so. However, currently all production deployments are still on Websphere with scheduled down time. This will change once the current release makes it to production, but so far there are no plans to build a hot fail over environment. Oh yeah, good old Websphere. I wish I could get back to it with many problems solved as such or with costly support in change of not integrating the newest features, but my tight budget doesn't allow this. I hope JBoss could serve your needs after migration. d) Do the efforts with J2EE pay off really better performance and manageability against simple Tomcat approach according your experience? Architectures are based on business needs. (If you'd like to pay me to analyze your business requirements and determine the appropriate architecture for your needs I might be open to offers...) Yes, the business technology needs should be evaluted by experts. It may cost something, but prevents lame failures. That's what open source core developers are living from and that's nice. My dream of far future is to become even expert consulting for free, just for the feeling and experience to bring reusable solutions to community and move to higher level of making the world a better place to live, supported as a general movement by people who have money and share the excitement with poor developers... [Ignore this, past anarchist is getting insane heading again just minimal four hours to sleep...] OK_now_im_getting_personal_others_should_skip_this_tag Honestly, I went through stjude.org, nice idea, but if you'd decipher my nick, I'm quite uncomfortable with basic research exploiting animals with little or no actual use at all for all those unfortunate children - probably dictated by industry-driven NCI and others. I hope you work to catalogize only really valuable clinical research e.g. non-invasive statistical environment observation to help to discover most valuable prevention possibilities. Worth a quarrel between us... Moreover, I'm (fortunatelly) not the one giving money out here. Nevertheless, although miles away, you are looking like to be a suitable consultant for us with enough spare time. Wait till I discuss your possible involvement with those sitting on cash, then I'll contact you directly. Quick but informed expertise is awaited. /OK_personal_tag_is_over_though_not_well_formed Going on, For our case the business requirements don't necessarily dictate a J2EE architecture and the learning curve was sufficiently long that knowing what we know now we might not have done it. However, having climbed the learning curve there is definitely no reason to go back. You mean J2EE was too big calibre for your requirements but after you got into it, you wanted not to give up on possible features? It's probably similar situation as we are in, wanting to get one custom solution working ASAP, but looking up to more abstract framework for an unique kind of Internet-based busines for being extended and developed further on open-source basis. The balance between those two targets is needed. e) Do you
Re: sexy open source
--- Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Wow, this thread got a lot of attention. I'm more than happy about it. With my ongoing experience with open source mailing lists, I've awaited little or no response. Perhaps it was just good subject line :) Unfortunatelly I am home and I won't go over those messages via a web based interface (that's the only way to view them from home). I chast subscribed with this addy instead. I will keep our context in my reply and do an overall comment sometime tommorow. OT!!! I'm using webmail (open to all my colleagues) too, rather than flooding up my business email account because of high traffic here or on other open source maillists I've subscribed to. Till I establish my own mail server (dynamic IP) to be accessible from everywhere, I hope the capacity of my webmail will stand for the amount of posts till that time. Feel free to ask me how to establish home-based dynamic email server privately. /OT!!! 1.4 is better IMHO. Well, it should be, but I've seen several people here reporting problems already with Cocoon alone, not to mention other components. That's because you had to build Cocoon using JDK1.4 to for some things to work, namelly database access. OK, I did not get to it today, I don't expect binary to be available now for 1.4 but I see no problem with building the sources (I've made it several times in order to implement the patches that unfortunatelly did not help me with JBoss 3.0.1). Is there any customization to source needed to be successfully built in 1.4? If it is the case, point me to any valuable places discussing it, rather then writing it down again... What version of Cocoon to take? cocoon-2.0.3-vm14-bin.zip (win32) cocoon-2.0.3-vm14-bin.tar.gz (linux) OK, ignore my previous statement, I will try the binary directly. (I've put one minute to writing it and now I'm too tired to delete it :) Usually MySQL, but that's mostly because of habit and web administration via PHPMyAdmin. I would like to use MySQL/phpMyAdmin too, it rocks, but I need the transactions, constraint-driven triggers, easy log-based failure recovery and stored procedures to deal with complicated low-level business logic... More people are familiar with Tomcat. Me too! Just that ... JBoss doesn't like it that much. Again, fault of using JBoss at all? Actually, there's a bundle of JBoss with a version of Tomcat at JBoss.org. No clue about setting those two up together but I know people in this list have done so; perhaps someone should do a good thing and supply with the documentation for this (item 1 ;-) Believe me, I've tried everything possible including manipulation of sources to get JBoss301Tomcat404 accepting Cocoon - no luck. Using default Jetty, it works out ot the box, that's why I've originally proposed Jetty rather than Tomcat. Moreover, is seems that Jetty is getting more community involvement right now compared to Tomcat as little conservative reference implementation of established standars. You are probably ironic here regarding the complexity of SVG. On the contrary, I love SVG. SVG rocks, but I was disturbed by complexity of generating reusable dynamic graphic through XSL, for example if I wanted to read a collection of navigational buttons with several properties from database and then serialize them as dynamic data to SVG (later to binary images). This tasks are higly manual and including deep knowleadge of SVG alone. My designers are avoiding to learn SVG other that on WYSIWYG basis, thus there's more work for me to provide easily adjustable SVG to them. JascWebdraw is good, but if you have a markup/web authoring background you are better with a good text editor. I don't know about open source projects on the SVG editor area. Again, I have the knowledge how to write SVG, but designers hate it. Maybe I should be hard on them to go out from proprietary tools and use standards instead. Or I need another person writing SVG for them. Project Management: PHPMyProject No files released. Try phpcollab. True. Thank you for suggestion. Pretty cool. Even has Gant charts. Instalation was a little hard on windows. Pleas explain what Gant is. I have to get it working on Linux, I hope the same problems as by MS do not emerge. You mean some group of crazy people should be put together and make the ultimate environment true? Hey, it's a geek fashion ;-) Seriously now, it's a big task and will require people to through in some brains, experience and hours of work. Worst of all, it will require us to be serious and eager to do the job. I'm ready to establish website for this task if needed, e.g. enough people are willing to invest their time for it. Thank you for your time you've spent on this issuee, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten?
RE: sexy open source
--- Geoff Howard [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: So far, every time I hear someone talk about using EJB's and cocoon, the topic gets bundled with deploying cocoon in the appserver itself, which pegs you to one front end machine and causes all of your display logic (cocoon) to run on the same disks and cpus as your ejb logic. As my little newbie soul sees it, that's not such a problem, because good application server allows to get rid of really resource-intensive EJBs or other components alone by distributing it elsewhere than on the machine running Cocoon. Is no one using EJB's on a remote (conceptually remote, even if it's on the same machine for now) server from within cocoon? Seems to me that a powerful set up is That was my initial proposal - accessing remote J2EE components from Cocoon - but it seems that reality has to deal with extended exception handling of all those possible errors coming from J2EE and that's why yet another link in the chain (incrementally handling the errors) should be established in between, to redirect requests avoiding Cocoon to implement complicated logic. Of course the EJBServer and database can be clustered too, but you'd need a pretty whopping load before that would be necessary. That's exactly what I'm interested in. Taking lightweight, just Tomcat-based Cocoon with direct connection to DB has to be tested and benchmarked regarding concurrent user requests. If it fails for possible traffic on public site, then the J2EE should help out, because most bottlenecks are probably in business logic, after optimizing the technology. Are there sites or users doing these benchmarks available anywhere? Hoping to clear this issue, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
Hi Andreas, --- Andreas Hochsteger [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: * UML Modeling: ArgoUML (http://argouml.tigris.org/) * Version Control System: CVS (http://www.cvshome.org/) Subversion (http://subversion.tigris.org/) (!!!) * IDE: Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/) Netbeans (http://www.netbeans.org/) * Job Scheduling: Quartz (http://www.part.net/quartz.html) * Workflow Management (continued): OSWorkflow (http://www.opensymphony.com/osworkflow/) * Search Engine: Apache Lucene (http://jakarta.apache.org/lucene/) * Regression Testing: JUnit (http://www.junit.org/) JXUnit (http://jxunit.sourceforge.net/) JMeter (http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter) * Build Framework: Ant (http://jakarta.apache.org/ant/) Krysalis Centipede (http://www.krysalis.org/centipede/) * Project Site Management: Apache Forrest (http://xml.apache.org/forrest/) Thank you for jumping in! Almost all of your proposals I know already, some are on my (getting long) task list to download and test out. All are probably of great use to establish open source based development company. I've kept them out in my initial post, because it would be twice that long mentioning them. Some Remarks: ArgoUML seems to be dead as open source, evolving to free and/or commercial Poseidon edtions available at www.gentleware.com. Nevertheless, it is probably the most evolved (almost) freely available UML engine with some very interesting features (critiques, for example) not available elsewhere. Even in free edition, it produces XMI, that could be further processed with open source to generate DB, EJBs and documentation. That's why I've mentioned it. Getting little angry here, I just don't understand why open www.omg.org specifications don't go also open or free regarding their implementation in leading products like Together, Rational or Embarcadero, just to get more customers for consulting, the key concept behind sale of open source. That's why I recommend free yer lame Poseidon, because I think the UML-based engineering is of great use in almost every serious project. Regarding Lucene, I'm definitely eager to use it as advanced search engine in Cocoon, I hope it easy to be integrated. I had not to do any testing so far, but I'll definitelly have to look at engines proposed from you above, regarding how far are they able to benchmark various possible Cocoon configurations and placement inside oher frmeworks. If I find some more projects in my huge unmanaged link mail folder I'll let you know ;-) Well, I thought I'm quite experienced with actual open source roadmap, but I see there are many applications I was not aware of, so keep on posting your proposals, possibly with short comment on them. Eager for your next responses, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2 quick cocoon/lucene demo questions
just started looking at the lucene demo that comes with the cocoon distribution. why does boost factor (using ^) for queries not work? what is the exact location of the directory files being indexed in the demo? (placing test files in the webapps/cocoon/documentation directory and recreating the index does not seem to add them to the index). -- - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
--- Emmanuil Batsis (Manos) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: Since we are talking about add-on projects, I would vote for Wyona CMS project; a content management system that sits on top of Cocoon. http://www.wyona.org Well, there's also DBPrism as an extension to Cocoon but I want to know if anybody here is succesfully employing them for production. As my current project involves content management done by about 2000 authorized users, I'll definitely take a look at Wyona! WebMacro or WebEditor were of no use for me, so I'm eager to discover other possibilities for Cocoon-based CMS. Thank you, Peter. __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: sexy open source
My experience also shows that Postgresql is a good database. - Original Message - From: Antonio Gallardo Rivera [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: sexy open source I recommend you try PostgreSQL. El Miércoles, 14 de Agosto de 2002 07:11, Argyn Kuketayev escribió: subj was sexy open source. I don't think that there's sexy open source RDBMS comparing to Oracle, or even MS SQL Server. Ok, Apache is sexy, comparing to IIS indeed. business doesn't care about opennes as much as about performance and features. Cocoon is sexy too, btw jBoss is not. -Original Message- From: Manos Batsis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 9:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: sexy open source Argyn, Err... the subject says open source. I don't think there is a point in arguing about what sucks and what doesn't, so I just won't. Manos -Original Message- From: Argyn Kuketayev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 14, 2002 4:05 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: sexy open source RDBMS must be Oracle. no other options, imho. cost is not a problem. it's negligeable comparing to the cost of one DBA. while at the same time performance and other features of Oracle are far better than anything. 4) Business Logic Persistence Proposal: Firebird RDBMS as JBoss service jBoss sucks, imho. - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[FYI] On Vacation until August 26th
Folks, I will be on vacation from tomorrow through August 26th. -=Ivelin=- - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: 2 quick cocoon/lucene demo questions
Harry J. Foxwell wrote: just started looking at the lucene demo that comes with the cocoon distribution. why does boost factor (using ^) for queries not work? what is the exact location of the directory work-directory/index files being indexed in the demo? It does not index *files*, but URIs. By default, it indexes page http://localhost:8080/cocoon/documents/index.html and all other pages accessible from it. (placing test files in the webapps/cocoon/documentation directory and recreating the index does not seem to add them to the index). (perhaps you forgot to link to them) Vadim - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
create pdf file
Is it possible for Cocoon to do an XML+XSL - PDF transformation, but instead of serving the PDF into the browser, writing it to a file? What I would like to do is, take information entered into a form on a jsp page, turn it into an XML file, and then apply my XSL to it to produce a PDF which is then stored to disk on the server. Can this be done using Cocoon, or would it be easier to just use FOP embedded in a servlet? If it can be done, what do I have to do? Regards, Kyle Koss - Please check that your question has not already been answered in the FAQ before posting. http://xml.apache.org/cocoon/faq/index.html To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
