[Cooker] Re: [Security Announce] MDKSA-2000:072 - joe update

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Linux Mandrake Security Team am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 04:55:52PM -0700:
> 
> 
> Linux-Mandrake Security Update Advisory
> 
> 
> Package name: joe
> Advisory ID:  MDKSA-2000:072
[...]
>  append its open buffers to the file DEADJOE.  This can be exploited by
>  the creation of DEADJOE symlinks in directories where root would 
>  normally use joe.  In this way, joe could be used to append garbage to

Okay, and how does the update fix this behaviour?  Does the new joe not
create DEADJOE's anymore?

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[Cooker] ghostscript drivers/cups ppds

2000-11-20 Thread Jeff Pang

I've been using Mandrake for a while, but I'm relatively new to Cooker, so 
bear with me if this sounds a bit newbiish (as it is :).

I was wondering how to go about getting a certain manufacturer's ghostscript 
driver included in the mandrake gs package (specifically Samsung's driver for 
the ml-4500 and ml-6040, which is GPL'd, and is available as a src-rpm here: 
http://www.samsungelectronics.com/support/downloads/printer/dn_5407_en.html 
-- its called gdi, yes I know that is very misleading, but that's the name 
:). I have managed to kind of kludge it into the most recent gs build in 7.2 
(just added gdevgdi.c into the makefile's list of drivers), but I don't feel 
I have to time to do it "properly" until the school semester ends and I have 
a break. And I have no idea how to generate a cups ppd file for it, so I'm 
stuck with lpr for now. I think a couple other people I talked to at 
www.linuxprinting.org had this printer also. Not that I'm in any hurry, just 
wanted to try out cups and kill lpd. :)

- Jeff




Re: [Cooker] XFree 4.0.1f

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Pedro Rosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > The new rpm fails building on some variables related to agp. Right
> > now, I can't state which ones exactly, but they seem to be
> > agp_drm_init agp_drm_uninit.
> > 
> > I'm compiling the stuff under kernel 2.4.0-0.2, gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2
> > 
> 
> which version of the kernel-headers do you have installed ?

there is a conflict between kernel-2.4 header and current XFree86
source, should be fixed when we'll be in 2.4 by default in cooker.

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Re: [Cooker] XFree 4.0.1f

2000-11-20 Thread Frederic Lepied

Pedro Rosa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> The new rpm fails building on some variables related to agp. Right
> now, I can't state which ones exactly, but they seem to be
> agp_drm_init agp_drm_uninit.
> 
> I'm compiling the stuff under kernel 2.4.0-0.2, gcc 2.96 and glibc 2.2
> 

which version of the kernel-headers do you have installed ?
-- 
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[Cooker] dependancy isssues

2000-11-20 Thread Stefan van der Eijk

The following packages depend on packages that have changed names:

eog-0.5-2mdk.src.rpm.txt:   GConf-devel >= 0.8 is needed by eog-0.5-2mdk
gnome-vfs-0.4.2-1mdk.src.rpm.txt:   GConf-devel is needed by
gnome-vfs-0.4.2-1mdk

gnome-vfs-0.4.2-1mdk.src.rpm.txt:   oaf-devel is needed by
gnome-vfs-0.4.2-1mdk
gtkhtml-0.7-2mdk.src.rpm.txt:   oaf-devel is needed by gtkhtml-0.7-2mdk

jabber-1.0.1-3mdk.src.rpm.txt:  libxode-devel is needed by
jabber-1.0.1-3mdk




[Cooker] Suggestion for Cooker

2000-11-20 Thread Chris Spencer

This is so obvious that I'm sure that there is a good reason why this isn't 
part of the distribution already, but

As experienced Mandrake users know (and also according to the official 
Mandrake User's Guide: 
file:/usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/mdkrefguide/install-free-installation.html) 
users should install new software in /usr/local.

Since /user/local/bin is included by default in a user's $PATH why isn't 
/usr/local/lib included in a user's $LD_LIBRARY_PATH by default as well?

-Chris




Re: [Cooker] Is this a bug in mandrake 72

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

this is another screen capture just e litle bit later with a cpu 100%  some 
time.
and look at the ppp0 graphic is low when cpu is high
and if cpu stay 100% no external network traffic is routed

tks 
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On Saturday 18 November 2000 23:26, you wrote:
> kmail, locate, etc it can be any application that takes cpu time.
>
> On Saturday 18 November 2000 04:52, you wrote:
> > Hello, Luis.  What applications do you run when you're connected to the
> > net?
> >
> > On Friday 17 November 2000 20:02, you wrote:
> > > i upgraded my 7.1 mandrake to 72
> > > and now when i'm connected to the net
> > > and my cpu is 100%
> > > the connection get's slower, bumpy, instable in terms of speed
> > > i have a extern modem,
> > > this didn't happen in mandrake 71 before.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a explanation to this behaviour.
> > >
> > > tkx
> > >lafa

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Re: [Cooker] Is this a bug in mandrake 72

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

this is to update my report
that when internal network is busy the same thing happens see the screen 
capture. 
no ppp0 packet are crossing is the image.
if i stop internal network activity
the wget in the konsole window continue just fine.
if i start copy a file from a linux to a windows workstation the external 
network traffic stops.

can anyone coment this

thks 
  lafa

On Saturday 18 November 2000 23:26, you wrote:
> kmail, locate, etc it can be any application that takes cpu time.
>
> On Saturday 18 November 2000 04:52, you wrote:
> > Hello, Luis.  What applications do you run when you're connected to the
> > net?
> >
> > On Friday 17 November 2000 20:02, you wrote:
> > > i upgraded my 7.1 mandrake to 72
> > > and now when i'm connected to the net
> > > and my cpu is 100%
> > > the connection get's slower, bumpy, instable in terms of speed
> > > i have a extern modem,
> > > this didn't happen in mandrake 71 before.
> > >
> > > Does anyone have a explanation to this behaviour.
> > >
> > > tkx
> > >lafa

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[Cooker] Re: [Helix Beta] GDM still messes up the permissions on my /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions files. I have installed the latest update for Mandrake 7.2.

2000-11-20 Thread Steve Fox

Mark Gordon wrote:
> 
> Miles Lane wrote:
> 
> > I reported a few days ago that the X bit was getting unset on
> > my files in /etc/X121/gdm/Sessions.  I was then told that a
> > fix was on the way.  I then installed an updated GDM2 rpm
> > from ftp.helixcode.com.  The problem persists.
> >
> > I am running Mandrake 7.2.
> 
> I've tested the fix on our end, and I'm not getting the problems you
> reported earlier.  I'm wondering whether the problem you're having and
> the problem we fixed were different problems with similar symptoms.  Has
> the problem you're having changed in any way, or is it exactly the same
> as it was previously?
> 
> -Mark Gordon

I'm still having the same problem too. The problem is that every time
you reboot the mandrake_desk package recreates all the window manager /
desktop sessions from some other files. This is done by the
/usr/sbin/fndSession program which is started in
/etc/rc.d/init.d/mandrake_everytime script. The fndSession program looks
in /etc/X11/wmsession.d for scripts named XXWM where XX is 01 to
whatever, and WM is the session name. Looking in that directory I see :

[drfickle@potato wmsession.d]$ ls -l
total 32
-rw-r--r--1 root root  117 Oct 26 10:12 01KDE
-rw-r--r--1 root root  136 Oct 30 22:04 02GNOME
-rw-r--r--1 root root  224 Oct  2 09:53 03WindowMaker
-rw-r--r--1 root root  173 Oct 25 03:03 04enlightenment
-rw-r--r--1 root root  179 Oct  3 13:42 05blackbox
-rw-r--r--1 root root  134 Oct  3 02:09 06afterstep
-rw-r--r--1 root root  143 Oct  3 12:03 07IceWM
-rw-r--r--1 root root  139 Oct 30 22:06 08failsafe

So the fndSession does something with these files, then creates the real
sessions in /etc/X11/gdm/Sessions

In that directory I have :

[drfickle@potato Sessions]$ ll
total 40
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   43 Nov 20 21:20 AfterStep*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   42 Nov 20 21:20 BlackBox*
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root5 Nov 20 21:20 Default ->
GNOME*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   47 Nov 20 21:20 Enlightenment*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   39 Nov 20 21:20 GNOME*
-rw-r--r--1 root root  325 Nov 17 16:24 Gnome
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   39 Nov 20 21:20 IceWM*
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   37 Nov 20 21:20 KDE*
-rw-r--r--1 root root   41 Oct 29 01:48 Sawfish
-rwxr-xr-x1 root root   45 Nov 20 21:20 WindowMaker*
-rw-r--r--1 root root  781 Nov 17 16:24 Xsession
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Oct 29 01:00 default ->
Default*

Looking at the GNOME file I see:

#!/bin/sh
exec /etc/X11/Xsession GNOME

Looking at the Gnome file I see:

#!/bin/bash -login

for errfile in "$HOME/.gnomerc-errors" "${TMPDIR-/tmp}/gnomerc-$USER"
"/tmp/gnomdo
if ( cp /dev/null "$errfile" 2> /dev/null )
then
chmod 600 "$errfile"
exec > "$errfile" 2>&1
break
fi
done

if [ -x "$HOME/.gnomerc" ]; then
exec "$HOME/.gnomerc"
else
exec "/etc/X11/gdm/gnomerc"
fi

and the gnomerc file mentioned in there contains:

/usr/bin/gnome-session

My thoughts: the fndSession app is creating the GNOME file which doesn't
appear to like Helix's GDM package. The Helix GDM package is creating
the Gnome file. Also notice that the Gnome file is not set executable. I
think this has something to do with why it's not showing up in the GDM
screen.

Anyways, I hope that between the Mandrake people and the Helix people
someone can figure out the difference in packaging and squash this bug.
I'm getting tired of having to select GNOME from the GDM session screen
every time I login ;0)

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Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Robert L Martin


> Yeah, you are free to feel that my response was arrogant, but it was
> obviously naive of me to assume that something billed as 'complete'
actually
> would be so.

...that's true.  Complete should mean each and everything.  See another
post
of mine.
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herein find my proposal to fix this naming thing
1 Single Edition = the Walmart thing base install cd
2 Basic or New Users Edition = what would now be called "Complete"
3 Advanced or current Power Pack Deluxe
4 Server or Enterprise Edition= that business pack thing
5 Drake Forge = beowolf package

All levels should have a webposted tree of the files included

Robert L Martin
Who also thinks a tarball of the base system would be a good thing for
wierd installs





Re: [Cooker] KDE 2 CVS Update RPMS

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

I don't know if this is the right place to report this
but anchor in html in koqueror don't jump, in this release.

On Monday 20 November 2000 14:51, you wrote:
> On Saturday 18 November 2000 18:50, Christopher Molnar wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have just placed a new set of the KDE 2.x RPMS's onto
> > ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE.
> >
> > The rpm's are at the following version #'s:
>
> Nice work, Chris.  This KDE seems faster.  Here are my test results...
>
> 1. External taskbar: superb!
> 2. "Error - Potato Guy: Fatal error: I could not load the pictures. I'll
>   quit."
> 3. KSmileTris: crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
> 4. Snake Race: much better - you can see the exit button on the titlebar
> now. 5. KDevelop and/or KDevelop Setup: crashed and caused the signal 11
> (SIGSEGV) - I only clicked the launch icon.
> 6. Konqueror: I like the colour when you type man:ls in the address bar. 
> As file manager, when I change directory (~ to ~/.kde), .kde contents show
> briefly, then ~ contents show again - it's fast but that's not good. 7. KDE
> System Control: still very weak compared to kudzu.
> 8. Configuration|Printing|QT CUPS: nothing happens when you click this
>   (probably nothing to do with KDE though).
> 9.  KIconEdit: doesn't appear on menus.
> 10. Kaiman: good to see it working (badged GQmpeg?), but it's too small on
>   the screen.
> 11. KMid: no menu item.
> 12. KMidi: not working.  "/usr/share/apps/kmidi/config/timidity.cfg: No
> such file or directory
>   Try kmidi -h for help
>   ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!"
> 13. aRts control: I like freeverb.
> 14. KMail|Settings|Configuration|Composer|Language: Only English US (C)
>   allowed!
> 15. KOffice still very much work in progress, although some improvement in
>   Office97 imports.
>
> Good job - thanks for making them available.

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Re: [Cooker] Grub doesn't handle reiserfs with another ext2fs

2000-11-20 Thread Leon Brooks

Thomas Poindessous wrote:
> I want to use grub for booting mandrake on hda and debian on hdc. But as
> grub use reiserfs_stage1.5, it can't handle ext2fs.
> I tried to install reiserfs-grub on hda and ext2fs-grub on hdc and
> chainloader from hda to hdc during the boot, but it doesn't work.

> maybe, I need to try 0.5.96 ?

Or LILO... (-:

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Re: [Cooker] Uploaded ddd-3.2.91-1mdk.src.rpm

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

thanks, but could you put a binary too.
i use ddd, but i don't want to iinstall all the things to compile it.

On Monday 20 November 2000 21:43, you wrote:
> Hi! This is my first contribution to cooker. I just uploaded
> ddd-3.2.91-1mdk.src.rpm to the /incoming directory. If I messed anything
> up, please lemme know. I already submitted the .spec diff to the DDD
> team, for inclusion in the standard distribution. The main changes
> between ddd 3.2.1 and 3.2.91 is the support for "data themes", and JDK
> 1.2, besides the usual bug fixes. Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] Upgrading from 7.1

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

may be this ins't what you want but i upgrade from 7.1 to 7.2 without a 
problem.

i had to configure the network again, because 7.2 installer mess it up.
but all the other things were working fine.



On Tuesday 21 November 2000 00:05, you wrote:
> I saw several instances of "upgrading from 7.2" on this list, but I'm
> currently using 7.1, and want to upgrade some of the packages to cooker.
> I tried to upgrade my X server, and I get these errors:
>
> $ rpm -Uvh XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm \
>   XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm
>
> error: failed dependencies:
>   rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by
> XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk
>   rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by
> XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk
>   rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by
> XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk
>   libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk
>   rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by
> XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk
>
>   Which packages do I need to upgrade? Thanks

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Re: [Cooker] Where's kde1-compat gone !!!

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

You can gte the one in mandrake 7.2 distribution i think


On Monday 20 November 2000 23:31, you wrote:
> I picked kde1-compat from the Red Hat sites.
>
> What about people like me who still have some apps. that need it ?
>
> Owen
>
> On Monday 20 November 2000  2:21 pm, you wrote:
> > OS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I thought it was about time I gave KDE 2 another go. But kde1-compat
> > > has disappeared from the cooker sites. kde1-compat-devel is there, but
> > > no signs of kde1-compat itself :-(
> >
> > AFAIK every qt1-based apps shall be removed from distro.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmmp-0.5.0-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Luis Alves

i can find any xmmp rpm
are you thinking putting it in cooker, soon?

On Monday 20 November 2000 23:01, you wrote:
> On Monday 20 November 2000 16:54, you wrote:
> > Meir Faraj wrote:
> > > could it be used to convert to the oggvorbis format ? ;-)
> > >
> > > On Monday 20 November 2000 13:15, you wrote:
> > > > [Contrib-RPM]
> > > >
> > > > --=-=-=
> > > > Name: xmmp Relocations: (not
> > > > relocateable) Version : 0.5.0 Vendor:
> > > > MandrakeSoft
> >
> > from the website :
> >
> > Features
> >  The X Multimedia Project (xmmp) is a complete suite for the playback of
> > the most common Multimedia Files under Linux X11 Environments. Control
> > is provided by a fully user
> >  configurable (skinned) Interface. The supported file formats and output
> > devices:
> >
> >  Audio:
> >   WAVE ( PCM and GSM 6.10 )
> >   MPEG 1, 2, 2.5 Layer 1/2/3
> >   All module formats supported by MikMod ( MikMod Package required )
> >
> >  Video:
> >   MPEG 1 ( smpeg library required )
> >   MPEG 2 and ac3 audio ( with included LibMPEG3 )
> >   AVI ( w32 dlls can be used ). Extremely beta... and only tested with
> > divxc32.dll. Not really usable.
> >
> >  Sound Output:
> >   OSS
> >   ALSA ( ALSA package required )
> >
> >  Graph Output:
> >   X11
> >   SDL ( SDL library required )
>
> so it support aq lot of format but not the oggvorbis;-(
> hopes Xa2 will be out fast as possible (xanim 2nd gen)
> it will advance a lot multimedia under linux
> but I'm very happy for the last year advancement in this area

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Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Monday 20 November 2000 18:29, you wrote:
> on 11/19/00 9:25 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > In your situation, I would take it back and get your $32 back.   Then
> > download or buy the REAL Mandrake 7.2
>
> Well, I certainly will try to return it, albeit the issue with returning
> opened software boxes is a tricky one... Either way, this, of course, begs
> the question:
>
> What *IS* the 'real' Mandrake 7.2?
>
> The box states 'Linux-Mandrake 7.2 complete'. It's published by MacMillan
> (MandrakeSoft's US distributor). You can't get any more 'real' than that,
> at least by appearance.
>
> Seeing as how Mandrake whines on about how they have to make money to pay
> for their salaries (a legitimate concern) I figured that $32 isn't going to
> break me, and that at least I'd be contributing a bit. I made sure that
> this was not the WalMart version, and figured I would therefore be 'safe'.
>
> After all, if I were to download Mandrake, I would spend no money, but
> neither would Mandrake earn any. Buy the 'real' Mandrake? Would the real
> Mandrake please stand up?
>
> I'm certainly not going to risk and additional $79.95 on another
> 'experiment, only to find out that this is an incomplete release version as
> well. Besides, I stopped purchasing RedHat when they jacked their prices up
> in the $79.95 range, so if I'm going to spend that kind of money, I'm going
> to buy RedHat - at least their distro works.
>
> So, what to do?
>
> > Yes, the promotion is misleading (or worse) to an experienced
> > Mandrake User
>
> Yeah, seeing as how I'm not the only one having versioning problems, I'd
> say that's about accurate. Seeing as how Mandrake's attitude appears to be
> that most users who have this problem are either stpid or lazy, I don't see
> that changing soon.
>
> > (probably none of which are to be found in Macmillan,
> > WalMart, Mandrake(?) marketing).
>
> Apparently, the one constant in the Universe are marketing people - just
> like in the US, if you prove incompetent at much else, you go to marketing.
>
> Harry
I think that if u will not have to paid anything more than your 32$ you could 
download the 2 iso from any of the mirrors (you could find them in the 
mandrake site) 
it will take you 2 hours with an adsl or 2 days with an ISDN if you've a 
faster one so it's not a problems .
I've download them and they are very complete , you could also download the 
chris upgrade for kde it have very good improvment (don't forget to exit from 
kde and run a update-menus -v  after the upgrade;-) .

I think you will see that is the best distro and forget the problem that was 
an incidence that is not the fault of Mandrake .





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] modutils-2.3.20-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Nov 20, 2000 at 02:42:10PM +0100, Christian Gennerat wrote:

> > > I have upgraded with it in my PC running mdk7.2 Odissey
> > > Then I have rebooted.
> > > I cannot access the modules any more.
> > > depmod -av replies only "\n"
> > >
> > > no modules -> no drivers -> no cd, no network
> > > I think I must re-install all.
> 
> In fact, I have a small partition (100 Mo) with a reduced Mandrake 7.0
> on the same machine, which can access to cdrom or nfs

So you can boot up when you use the new modutils?

> > Why did you install the cooker modutils?  There is an official update
> > for 7.2 that works fine...
> 
> I have tested  modutils-2.3.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm from
> ftp.tu-clausthal.demodutils-2.3.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm  
>/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/7.2/RPMS/
> and I have exactly the same:
> depmod -av
> does not output anything.
> 
> Have you tested this version?

Hmmm... let's see, on my Corporate Server 1.0 box I have
modutils-2.3.20-1.2mdk installed and it works perfect.  depmod -av
gives me lots of output.  On my Mandrake 7.2 box I have
modutils-2.3.20-1.1mdk and it also works perfectly.  So, yes, it has
been tested on both versions of Mandrake (7.1 and 7.2) and they work
fine.

> > On both 7.1 and 7.2, /sbin/depmod -a runs
> > fine and generates the new modules.* files without a problem.  I think
> > because of the different compilers used, you blew your system using a
> > cooker modutils instead of the 7.2 modutils MandrakeUpdate provides.
> 
> I have re-installed modutils-2.3.1.19.1 (downloaded from cooker on Oct 31),
> and it works fine again.

I honestly can't say what your problem is... perhaps Chmouel will have
an idea, but modutils works just fine for me here.  On my corporate
server box I am running kernel-2.2.16-9mdk and on my 7.2 box I am
running 2.2.17-21mdk.  Not sure if this makes a difference as far as
modutils is concerned, but it might.

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Re: [Cooker] KDE 2 CVS Update RPMS

2000-11-20 Thread Peter Ruskin

On Saturday 18 November 2000 18:50, Christopher Molnar wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have just placed a new set of the KDE 2.x RPMS's onto
> ftp://nebsllc.com/pub/KDE_UPDATE.
>
> The rpm's are at the following version #'s:
>
Nice work, Chris.  This KDE seems faster.  Here are my test results...

1. External taskbar: superb!
2. "Error - Potato Guy: Fatal error: I could not load the pictures. I'll 
quit."
3. KSmileTris: crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
4. Snake Race: much better - you can see the exit button on the titlebar now.
5. KDevelop and/or KDevelop Setup: crashed and caused the signal 11 (SIGSEGV) 
- I only clicked the launch icon.
6. Konqueror: I like the colour when you type man:ls in the address bar.  As 
file manager, when I change directory (~ to ~/.kde), .kde contents show 
briefly, then ~ contents show again - it's fast but that's not good.
7. KDE System Control: still very weak compared to kudzu.
8. Configuration|Printing|QT CUPS: nothing happens when you click this 
(probably nothing to do with KDE though).
9.  KIconEdit: doesn't appear on menus.
10. Kaiman: good to see it working (badged GQmpeg?), but it's too small on 
the screen.
11. KMid: no menu item.
12. KMidi: not working.  "/usr/share/apps/kmidi/config/timidity.cfg: No such 
file or directory
Try kmidi -h for help
ERROR: KUniqueApplication: DCOP communication error!"
13. aRts control: I like freeverb.
14. KMail|Settings|Configuration|Composer|Language: Only English US (C) 
allowed!
15. KOffice still very much work in progress, although some improvement in 
Office97 imports.

Good job - thanks for making them available.
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker - I want to run it - how to?

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Tuesday 21 November 2000 00:21, you wrote:
> Hello
>   I have been following cooker list for quite a while and wonder how to
> become part of the whole process.  As newbie, I need simple info:  how
> to upgrade the standard 7.2 to cooker without
> wrecking the whole thing? It must be an order in which to files are
> installed.
>   Any/all help would be most appreciated.
>
>   Thanks a lot.
>
> Eduardo
I think that you shouldn't upgrade to cooker , but better create a new 
partition for it and hace the two installed .
So for serious work the first one ands for testing the second one ;-)

I prefer to install one system only , but for newbies isn't good to install 
only the cooker as it is very instable , it's a development version..





[Cooker] Upgrading from 7.1

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Serodio

I saw several instances of "upgrading from 7.2" on this list, but I'm
currently using 7.1, and want to upgrade some of the packages to cooker.
I tried to upgrade my X server, and I get these errors:

$ rpm -Uvh XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm \
XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk.i586.rpm

error: failed dependencies:
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by
XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by
XFree86-glide-module-4.0.1-28mdk
rpmlib(PayloadFilesHavePrefix) <= 4.0-1 is needed by
XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk
libc.so.6(GLIBC_2.2) is needed by XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk
rpmlib(CompressedFileNames) <= 3.0.4-1 is needed by
XFree86-server-4.0.1-28mdk

Which packages do I need to upgrade? Thanks
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Re: [Cooker] Where's kde1-compat gone !!!

2000-11-20 Thread OS

I picked kde1-compat from the Red Hat sites.

What about people like me who still have some apps. that need it ?

Owen


On Monday 20 November 2000  2:21 pm, you wrote:
> OS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I thought it was about time I gave KDE 2 another go. But kde1-compat has
> > disappeared from the cooker sites. kde1-compat-devel is there, but no
> > signs of kde1-compat itself :-(
>
> AFAIK every qt1-based apps shall be removed from distro.




[Cooker] Uploaded ddd-3.2.91-1mdk.src.rpm

2000-11-20 Thread Daniel Serodio

Hi! This is my first contribution to cooker. I just uploaded 
ddd-3.2.91-1mdk.src.rpm to the /incoming directory. If I messed anything
up, please lemme know. I already submitted the .spec diff to the DDD
team, for inclusion in the standard distribution. The main changes
between ddd 3.2.1 and 3.2.91 is the support for "data themes", and JDK
1.2, besides the usual bug fixes. Thanks.

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Re: [Cooker] Dell Notebooks and Mandrake 7.2

2000-11-20 Thread OS

Have you tried http://www.cs.utexas.edu/users/kharker/linux-laptop/ ?

Owen

On Saturday 18 November 2000  9:27 pm, you wrote:
> I have a Dell Inspiron 7500, 750 MHz Pentium III, with Speed Step, and a
> 15+" SXGA screen.
>
> Mandrake handles sound just fine.
> Graphics under X I had some difficulty with but installing the 3.3.6
> XServer and then following the instructions at:
> http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~steveh/inspiron/
> will make it work just fine.
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2000 at 05:29:35PM +0100, Till Kamppeter wrote:
> > Someone knows whether and how these notebooks (or other recent Dells)
> > work with Mandrake 7.2 (especially graphics and sound):
> >
> >
> > http://www.euro.dell.com/countries/fr/fra/dhs/products/series_inspn_noteb
> >ooks.htm
> >
> >Till




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] modutils-2.3.20-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Vincent Danen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I honestly can't say what your problem is... perhaps Chmouel will have
> an idea, but modutils works just fine for me here.  On my corporate

what the commands :

uname -r

ls /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/

depmod -av

gives ?

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[Cooker] Cooker - I want to run it - how to?

2000-11-20 Thread Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes

Hello
I have been following cooker list for quite a while and wonder how to
become part of the whole process.  As newbie, I need simple info:  how
to upgrade the standard 7.2 to cooker without
wrecking the whole thing? It must be an order in which to files are
installed.
Any/all help would be most appreciated.

Thanks a lot.

Eduardo




Re: [Cooker] Fresh LM 7.2 install [Ugly fonts], and suggested fixes

2000-11-20 Thread Zeljko Vukman

On Monday 20 November 2000 18:25, you wrote:

> So, I applied standard procedure which I described to several people having
> problems with fonts:
> 1) copy c:/windows/fonts  *.ttf to  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts
> 2) cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts
>  run ttmkfdir -o fonts.dir
> 3) comment out all unnecessary entries which cause fonts to looks ugly, or
> select wrong encoding;
> 3b) add WinFonts entry to XFS server catalog
> # where to look for fonts
> # Some of these are commented out, i.e. the TrueType and Type1
> #
> catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts,
>   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
> # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
> # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
> # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
> # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
> # /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk,
> # /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,
> # /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled,
> # /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled,
> # /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western

Hi Vadim,

I just want to add this: If people are using FontDrake and Kde2 they must not 
use settings mentioned above. These settings in /etc/X11/fs/config will screw 
up fonts in Kde2 and you will not be able to choose any font.
After you copied your windows fonts to /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts folder and
run ttmkfdir -o fonts.dir your /etc/X11/fs/config file should look like this:

catalogue = /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/drakfont,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk

#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/pcf_drakfont:unscaled,
#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
#/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
#/usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,
#/usr/share/fonts/ttf/western,
#/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/misc:unscaled,
#/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/100dpi:unscaled,
#/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled,
#/usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/Type1

# in 12 points, decipoints
default-point-size = 120

# 100 x 100 and 75 x 75
default-resolutions = 100,100,75,75

and you will get beautiful fonts in all KDE2 applications (In Konqueror fonts 
looks exactly like in MS Explorer). In Konqeror > Settings > Browser put 
minimum font to 13 (or 14) and choose f.ex. all Arial fonts. Etc.

Regards,






Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmmp-0.5.0-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Monday 20 November 2000 16:54, you wrote:
> Meir Faraj wrote:
> > could it be used to convert to the oggvorbis format ? ;-)
> >
> > On Monday 20 November 2000 13:15, you wrote:
> > > [Contrib-RPM]
> > >
> > > --=-=-=
> > > Name: xmmp Relocations: (not
> > > relocateable) Version : 0.5.0 Vendor:
> > > MandrakeSoft
>
> from the website :
>
> Features
>  The X Multimedia Project (xmmp) is a complete suite for the playback of
> the most common Multimedia Files under Linux X11 Environments. Control
> is provided by a fully user
>  configurable (skinned) Interface. The supported file formats and output
> devices:
>
>  Audio:
>   WAVE ( PCM and GSM 6.10 )
>   MPEG 1, 2, 2.5 Layer 1/2/3
>   All module formats supported by MikMod ( MikMod Package required )
>
>  Video:
>   MPEG 1 ( smpeg library required )
>   MPEG 2 and ac3 audio ( with included LibMPEG3 )
>   AVI ( w32 dlls can be used ). Extremely beta... and only tested with
> divxc32.dll. Not really usable.
>
>  Sound Output:
>   OSS
>   ALSA ( ALSA package required )
>
>  Graph Output:
>   X11
>   SDL ( SDL library required )
so it support aq lot of format but not the oggvorbis;-(
hopes Xa2 will be out fast as possible (xanim 2nd gen)
it will advance a lot multimedia under linux
but I'm very happy for the last year advancement in this area




Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Monday 20 November 2000 18:22, you wrote:
> on 11/19/00 9:28 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > If you can't stand the responses, GET LOST!
>
> Hmmm, do you work for Mandrake?
>
> > I doubt that the marketing will even response when YOU ARE always so
> > arrogant!  That's right!  The person being arrogant in the first place is
> > *YOU*!
>
> Look, I'll be the first one to retract my words if it turns out that I was
> wrong. After Geoffery's response, I was looking for joe in the location he
> mentioned, ready to apologize to this list.
>
> Turns out that joe is INDEED nowhere to be found on the disks, validating
> my original rant/question - and Pixel was the only person who answered it
> in a knowledgeable way (thanks, Pixel).
>
> Yeah, you are free to feel that my response was arrogant, but it was
> obviously naive of me to assume that something billed as 'complete'
> actually would be so.
>
> Harry
Do you get all working ?
I think that  now we could forget the arrogance problem .
the problem need to be the center of the discution

so there was problem with the download version comercialised by macmillan ?

you need ncftp and joe ?

it is simple to download these two small rpms from mirrors (get the 7.2 
verion no 8 ;-)

if you need help I will glade to try helping you as do already pixel and 
others ;-)
thanks to pixel for doing so great works ;-)




Re: [Cooker] Nautilus Preview 2

2000-11-20 Thread Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes

Frederic Crozat wrote:
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes") writes:
> 
> > Hello
> >   Per chance, have someone got Nautilus Preview 2 running on 7.2?  How
> > about evolution?
> 
> Not on 7.2 but I think I'll upload nautilus 0.5 (PR2) this week on
> cooker..
> 
> You'll then be able to recompile it on 7.2

Thanks a lot.

Are you think of posting a guideline for compiling on standard 7.2?  

Regards

Eduardo


> 
> --
> Frédéric Crozat
> MandrakeSoft




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] GConf-0.11-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Patrick Poncet

the -devel is missing...

Frederic Crozat wrote:
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: GConfRelocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 0.11  Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Mon Nov 20 16:42:37 2000
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
> Group   : Graphical desktop/GNOME   Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 599853   License: GPL
> Packager: Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : ftp://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/unstable/sources/GConf
> Summary : GConf is a configuration database system.
> Description :
> GConf is a configuration database for the GNOME project.
> 
> --=-=-=
> 
> * Mon Nov 20 2000 Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.11-1mdk
> 
> - Release 0.11
> 
> --
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Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach mdk mailin list (Harry) am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 08:22:37AM -0800:
> on 11/19/00 9:28 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> > If you can't stand the responses, GET LOST!
> 
> Hmmm, do you work for Mandrake?

No, sorry, I do not, although I would like to...

> Look, I'll be the first one to retract my words if it turns out that I was
> wrong. After Geoffery's response, I was looking for joe in the location he
> mentioned, ready to apologize to this list.

Yes, as others already said, the reason for your action is understandable;
your words are not (at least not to me).  And...

> Yeah, you are free to feel that my response was arrogant, but it was
> obviously naive of me to assume that something billed as 'complete' actually
> would be so.

...that's true.  Complete should mean each and everything.  See another post
of mine.

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Re: [Cooker] KDE 2 CVS Update RPMS

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Christopher Molnar am Sat, Nov 18, 2000 at 05:29:08PM -0500:
> then install with: rpm -Uvh package.name

Or set MandrakeUpdate to NOT fail when a package isn't signed.

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Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Lenny am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 10:15:36AM +:
> ...second mdk package...was in contribs for more than a month.

Thanks, Lenny, but gc is already aware of that *g*

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[Cooker] Fresh LM 7.2 install [Ugly fonts], and suggested fixes

2000-11-20 Thread Vadim Plessky


Thanks to one kind man here, I received LM 7.2 and effected setup on separate 
partition.
I decided to setup it with national support (ru),  and was able finally to 
test what some people were speaking about - ugly fonts (KDE2) of almost 
unbelievable size and non-usable KDE2.
I uploaded several small screen snapshots:
http://kde2.newmail.ru/BIGFONT1.PNG
http://kde2.newmail.ru/BIGFONT2.PNG
http://kde2.newmail.ru/BIGFONT3.PNG

And, K menu (on left side) was not opening. When I press on it, it was asking 
for password, and after entering password returning back to desktop, without 
menu opened.
It was really some kind of surprise for me, as I had no problems with KDE2 
from the middle of September. (binary RPMs from Cooker, and until now was 
running KDE 2.0 release compiled from tar.gz sources) 
Hopefuly, it's possible to do Right Mouse Button click on panel, and add 
Konsole to it (for some reason, there were console/konqueeor /kwrite buttons 
on panel)
Hopefuly, it's possible to do Right Mouse Button click on panel, and add 
Konsole to it (for some reason, there were console/konqueeor /kwrite buttons 
on panel). By the way, it was even not possible to logout through this K menu 
..., only with RMB on desktop...

Here is the problem with ugly fonts( K menu bug is related to it) 
KDE2 was starting using LEDfixed (ledfixed) font for ALL kind of settings - 
menu, dialogs, etc. When I tried to change font settings in KControl, it was 
returning back to initial (ledfixed)
On top of it, Konqueror was using some incredible font substitution and not 
displaying Russian at all.
Besides, Login Manager was showing only     instead of text, in all 
fields. Hopefuly I was using KDE2 and KDM for a while, so I pressed on 
lowest option on right-side box, and got console in front of me.

So, I applied standard procedure which I described to several people having 
problems with fonts:
1) copy c:/windows/fonts  *.ttf to  /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts
2) cd /usr/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts
 run ttmkfdir -o fonts.dir
3) comment out all unnecessary entries which cause fonts to looks ugly, or 
select wrong encoding;
3b) add WinFonts entry to XFS server catalog
# where to look for fonts
# Some of these are commented out, i.e. the TrueType and Type1
#
catalogue = /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/WinFonts,
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled
#   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
#   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
#   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1,
#   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo,
#   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/mdk,
#   /usr/share/fonts/default/Type1,
#   /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled,
#   /usr/share/fonts/ISO8859-2/75dpi:unscaled,
#   /usr/share/fonts/ttf/western
VERY ANNOYING XFree86 bug: you can't start it withou "fixed" ont
So I had to leave /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled section, which just 
consumes memory on my X and space on HDD.

4) reboot, start KDE2
select all fonts to Arial/Courirer/Times New Roman, instead of ledfixed or 
any other X-based font.
5) System -> Login Manager
change "fixed" iso-8859-1 font to Arial/KOI8-R
5b) delete  in Welcome to localhost! message and replace it with English, 
as Russian keyboard is not working.

So, finaly it was fixed, but took several hours to tune it.
/the reason for such strange behavior of KDE2 is missing *right* fonts for 
Cyrillic, with necessary encodings; second - wrong font names in default KDE2 
setup; third - probably, so bug in KDE2 algorithm for font selection, but you 
always can overwrite it with axact font name/
 
And, I already had experience of fixing this. I afraid that newcomers to 
Linux or people who don't know what the FontServer and TrueType encoding is, 
will be mixed in such situation.
What's really bad that people can start thinking about KDE2 as _bad program_, 
because of this. Such attitude is really bad, and problem should be fixed, 
IMHO.
May I suggest that these issues will be fixed for LM 7.2?
You will probably not get negative input about such situation in US, but in 
Europe (and Asia) people can experience such problems. 

6) finally, about keyboard.
I had a hope that with LM 7.2 which is much newer then LM 7.0 I had, this 
problem is not fixed.
Unfortunately, not. Russian Keyboard is not working. (well, I even installed 
German/DE option to see if it is working at all. And, I was able to get 
German symbols, but no Russian)
Are there any chance to get it finaly working?
I can read mails in KMail in Russian, use Konqueorr for browsing, but can't 
write in Russian for Linux, so had to reboot every time to get Win98.

Copy/paste with Russian text in KWord/Koffice dosn't work, I get same ? 
instead of letters, but it is Koffice bug, I reported it. But missing 
national keyboard is a big disappointment; I can leave without DRI on my Rage 
Mobile, but this keyboard switching is much more easier, isn't it?
-- 

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http://kd

Re: [Cooker] POP3 server is BUGGY in 7.2!!!

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

"Alen Salamun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> > > I had problems with POP clients that tried to retrieve mail. It only
> > > worked if client was configured "Delete messages on server" if it was
> > > setup with "Leave messages on server" it just hanged on "Retrieving
> > > messages list...".
> > >
> > > This was tried with MANY email clients (Netscape, Outlook, Calypso).
> > > Machines checking mail have REAL IP's so it is not an DNS problem or
> > > something like that.
> > >
> > > When I grabbed older ipop3d everything worked again! I used version
> v7.59!
> >
> > Which package?
> Hi!
> 
> Package is: imap-4.7c2-4mdk

humm:

(chmou@matrix)[~]-% cat /etc/mandrake-release 
Linux Mandrake release 7.2 (Odyssey) for i586
(chmou@matrix)[~]-% sudo rpm -i /RPMS/imap-4.7c2-4mdk.i586.rpm 
(chmou@matrix)[~]-% telnet 192.168.1.24 pop-3
Trying 192.168.1.24...
Connected to 192.168.1.24.
Escape character is '^]'.
+OK POP3 matrix.mandrakesoft.com v7.64 server ready
QUIT 
+OK Sayonara
Connection closed by foreign host.
(chmou@matrix)[~]-% sudo rpm -e imap
(chmou@matrix)[~]-% 

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] ldconfig...

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Patrick Poncet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> > 
> > Patrick Poncet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > When installing new packages running ldconfig, I get the following
> > > error...  Running ldconfig from the command line does the same...  That
> > > after upgrading glibc.
> > >
> > > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_nis.so.1 (No such file or
> > > directory), skipping
> > > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_files.so.1 (No such file or
> > > directory), skipping
> > > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_dns.so.1 (No such file or
> > > directory), skipping
> > > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_compat.so.1 (No such file or
> > > directory), skipping
> > >
> > > Any idea???  Thanks in advance
> > 
> > you can rm -f it, (what we maybe should do  in %post of glibc), it's
> > when upgrading glibc-2.1.3 to glibc-2.2
> > 
> 
> rm -f what???

the broken link or upgrade to the last glibc-2.2 package where it's
done now automatically.

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)


> Think about this, I didn't tell you to look through the CD

Well, seeing as how I was specifically talking about the CD, that
miscommunication is understandable.

> it's still 
> available for downlaod and yes I admit the marketing is probably bad,
> and I can understand why you must be frustrated but: at leaset please
> search through the Mandrake ftp directory before you decidly try to
> flame the list for having removed joe.

yes, that's where I grabbed it from and downloaded it - unfortunately, it
appears that not all is fine in the 'complete' version.

I installed all the upgrades with MandrakeUpdate, and as a result now my
libgd.so.1 is either no longer to be foud, or incorrect, as installation of
something like ncftp fails for that reason.

So, there appear to be more problems.
 
> My point in my "arrogance" (as you call it) is because you decide to flame the
> list, at least try to be a bit polite? You know people here are all trying to
> help, and langague may differ (depending on humour and mood) I hope you
> understnad people on this list are not dummys for you to bash.

Fair enough, Geoffrey, and thanks for the reply.

Harry





Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)

on 11/19/00 9:25 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> In your situation, I would take it back and get your $32 back.   Then
> download or buy the REAL Mandrake 7.2

Well, I certainly will try to return it, albeit the issue with returning
opened software boxes is a tricky one... Either way, this, of course, begs
the question:

What *IS* the 'real' Mandrake 7.2?

The box states 'Linux-Mandrake 7.2 complete'. It's published by MacMillan
(MandrakeSoft's US distributor). You can't get any more 'real' than that, at
least by appearance.

Seeing as how Mandrake whines on about how they have to make money to pay
for their salaries (a legitimate concern) I figured that $32 isn't going to
break me, and that at least I'd be contributing a bit. I made sure that this
was not the WalMart version, and figured I would therefore be 'safe'.

After all, if I were to download Mandrake, I would spend no money, but
neither would Mandrake earn any. Buy the 'real' Mandrake? Would the real
Mandrake please stand up?

I'm certainly not going to risk and additional $79.95 on another
'experiment, only to find out that this is an incomplete release version as
well. Besides, I stopped purchasing RedHat when they jacked their prices up
in the $79.95 range, so if I'm going to spend that kind of money, I'm going
to buy RedHat - at least their distro works.

So, what to do?

> Yes, the promotion is misleading (or worse) to an experienced
> Mandrake User

Yeah, seeing as how I'm not the only one having versioning problems, I'd say
that's about accurate. Seeing as how Mandrake's attitude appears to be that
most users who have this problem are either stpid or lazy, I don't see that
changing soon.

> (probably none of which are to be found in Macmillan,
> WalMart, Mandrake(?) marketing).

Apparently, the one constant in the Universe are marketing people - just
like in the US, if you prove incompetent at much else, you go to marketing.

Harry





Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)

on 11/19/00 9:28 PM, Alexander Skwar at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> If you can't stand the responses, GET LOST!

Hmmm, do you work for Mandrake?

> I doubt that the marketing will even response when YOU ARE always so
> arrogant!  That's right!  The person being arrogant in the first place is
> *YOU*!

Look, I'll be the first one to retract my words if it turns out that I was
wrong. After Geoffery's response, I was looking for joe in the location he
mentioned, ready to apologize to this list.

Turns out that joe is INDEED nowhere to be found on the disks, validating my
original rant/question - and Pixel was the only person who answered it in a
knowledgeable way (thanks, Pixel).

Yeah, you are free to feel that my response was arrogant, but it was
obviously naive of me to assume that something billed as 'complete' actually
would be so.

Harry





Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread mdk mailin list (Harry)

on 11/19/00 9:09 PM, Ron Stodden at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Harry, how big is the partition you are installing to?

Oh, about 10 gigabytes.

> If it is too small, the installer gives you a percent representing
> all that it can install in that space.   Did you see this?

Nope, all I saw was three options, one at 300mb, one at 500mb, one at 800mb,
and the custome one, which I selected, with 'ALL' selected.
 
> Did you OK it at less than 100%?   If yes, then it is helpfully doing
> exactly what you requested it to do, ie, leave out sufficient of the
> lower-ranked packages, including joe.

Well, it turns out that contrary to Geoffrey's arrogant statement, joe can
not be found on ANY of the 4 CDs that I purchased. Neither can ncftp.
Neither can a corrective response from Geoffrey.

> Try again with a bigger partition?

Don't think that's the issue here.

Harry





Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] fan-3.0-4mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Lenny Cartier

Christian Gennerat wrote:

> > [Contrib-RPM]
> >
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: fan  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 3.0   Vendor: MandrakeSoft

> 
> URL address is obsolete. change to:
> http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/fan.html

done :)

lenny

-- 

--
Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"L'open source pour les moines, ça tombe carrement sous le sens" (c)
Vince




Re: [Cooker] POP3 server is BUGGY in 7.2!!!

2000-11-20 Thread Alen Salamun

> > I had problems with POP clients that tried to retrieve mail. It only
> > worked if client was configured "Delete messages on server" if it was
> > setup with "Leave messages on server" it just hanged on "Retrieving
> > messages list...".
> >
> > This was tried with MANY email clients (Netscape, Outlook, Calypso).
> > Machines checking mail have REAL IP's so it is not an DNS problem or
> > something like that.
> >
> > When I grabbed older ipop3d everything worked again! I used version
v7.59!
>
> Which package?
Hi!

Package is: imap-4.7c2-4mdk

Bye, Alen





[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] fan-3.0-4mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Gennerat

David BAUDENS a écrit :

> [Contrib-RPM]
>
> --=-=-=
> Name: fan  Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 3.0   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 4mdk  Build Date: Mon Nov 20 15:13:23 2000
> Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: ke.mandrakesoft.com
> Group   : System/Configuration/Hardware   Source RPM: (none)
> Size: 15944License: GPL
> Packager: Linux-Mandrake Team <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www2.prestel.co.uk/hex/toshiba.html
> Summary : Fan allows you to turn the internal fan of a Toshiba laptop on or off

URL address is obsolete. change to:
http://www.buzzard.org.uk/toshiba/fan.html





Re: [Cooker] Grub doesn't handle reiserfs with another ext2fs

2000-11-20 Thread Pixel

Thomas Poindessous <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi, I used grub from 7.2 (grub-0.5.95-7mdk).
> I have 3 reiserfs part on hda and another ext2fs on hdc.
> I want to use grub for booting mandrake on hda and debian on hdc. But as
> grub use reiserfs_stage1.5, it can't handle ext2fs.
> I tried to install reiserfs-grub on hda and ext2fs-grub on hdc and
> chainloader from hda to hdc during the boot, but it doesn't work.
> 
> maybe, I need to try 0.5.96 ?

don't know, but you should be able to use the stage2 which handle both instead
of stage1.5




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So sprach Guillaume Cottenceau am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:30:57PM +0100:
> > What does it bring?
> 
> Don't know, as I cannot seem to be able to run your version of OU - it seg
> faults immediately after starting.  See the attached strace output.

strange.

 
> Because I can't run your version, I tell you what I have with GLUI.  On the
> right hand side of the window there are some controls.  These controls allow
> you to easily zoom in/out, choose which object you want to see and where to
> see it from, and give you fast access to quite some other options.

ah ok i see now.

 
> Have a look at http://d-p.2y.net/~askwar/ou.png to see what I'm talking

Not Found

The requested URL /~askwar/ou.png was not found on this server.


> about.  It's the grey bar on the right hand side of the window.  Or have a
> look at the official screenshots of OU, like http://www.openuniverse.org/shot1.jpg

yes i saw it. i interpreted the difference by the win32 version. ;-)

 
> > I hate suse.
> 
> *g* So do I :]  I asked, because on the OU page there's a link to a SuSE
> package.




-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




[Cooker] Grub doesn't handle reiserfs with another ext2fs

2000-11-20 Thread Thomas Poindessous

Hi, I used grub from 7.2 (grub-0.5.95-7mdk).
I have 3 reiserfs part on hda and another ext2fs on hdc.
I want to use grub for booting mandrake on hda and debian on hdc. But as
grub use reiserfs_stage1.5, it can't handle ext2fs.
I tried to install reiserfs-grub on hda and ext2fs-grub on hdc and
chainloader from hda to hdc during the boot, but it doesn't work.

maybe, I need to try 0.5.96 ?

-- 
Thomas Poindessous
EpX asso GNU/Linux de l'Epita
[EMAIL PROTECTED] && http://www.epita.fr/~epx




Re: [Cooker] POP3 server is BUGGY in 7.2!!!

2000-11-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

"Alen Salamun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hi!
> 
> I had problems with POP clients that tried to retrieve mail. It only
> worked if client was configured "Delete messages on server" if it was
> setup with "Leave messages on server" it just hanged on "Retrieving
> messages list...".
> 
> This was tried with MANY email clients (Netscape, Outlook, Calypso).
> Machines checking mail have REAL IP's so it is not an DNS problem or
> something like that.
> 
> When I grabbed older ipop3d everything worked again! I used version v7.59!

Which package?



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Where's kde1-compat gone !!!

2000-11-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

OS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hello,
> 
> I thought it was about time I gave KDE 2 another go. But kde1-compat has
> disappeared from the cooker sites. kde1-compat-devel is there, but no signs of
> kde1-compat itself :-(

AFAIK every qt1-based apps shall be removed from distro.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Guillaume Cottenceau am Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:30:57PM +0100:
> What does it bring?

Don't know, as I cannot seem to be able to run your version of OU - it seg
faults immediately after starting.  See the attached strace output.

Because I can't run your version, I tell you what I have with GLUI.  On the
right hand side of the window there are some controls.  These controls allow
you to easily zoom in/out, choose which object you want to see and where to
see it from, and give you fast access to quite some other options.

Have a look at http://d-p.2y.net/~askwar/ou.png to see what I'm talking
about.  It's the grey bar on the right hand side of the window.  Or have a
look at the official screenshots of OU, like http://www.openuniverse.org/shot1.jpg

> I hate suse.

*g* So do I :]  I asked, because on the OU page there's a link to a SuSE
package.

Alexander Skwar
-- 
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ICQ:7328191 Uptime: 23 hours 39 minutes


execve("/usr/bin/openuniverse", ["openuniverse"], [/* 67 vars */]) = 0
brk(0)  = 0x81022dc
old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 
0x40017000
open("/etc/ld.so.preload", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("i686/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("i686/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/opt/adabas/lib/i686/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat64("/opt/adabas/lib/i686/mmx", 0xbfffd20c) = -1 ENOSYS (Function not implemented)
stat("/opt/adabas/lib/i686/mmx", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/opt/adabas/lib/i686/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat("/opt/adabas/lib/i686", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/opt/adabas/lib/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat("/opt/adabas/lib/mmx", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/opt/adabas/lib/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat("/opt/adabas/lib", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/i686/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such 
file or directory)
stat("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/i686/mmx", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/i686/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file 
or directory)
stat("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/i686", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/mmx", 0xbfffd14c) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat("/home/askwar/.kde/lib", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0700, st_size=35, ...}) = 0
open("/usr/lib/i686/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
stat("/usr/lib/i686/mmx", 0xbfffd14c)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/i686/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat("/usr/lib/i686", 0xbfffd14c)   = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/mmx/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
stat("/usr/lib/mmx", 0xbfffd14c)= -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62", O_RDONLY) = 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=130128, ...}) = 0
read(4, "\177ELF\1\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\3\0\1\0\0\0\260$\0"..., 4096) = 4096
old_mmap(NULL, 133136, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0x40018000
mprotect(0x40038000, 2064, PROT_NONE)   = 0
old_mmap(0x40038000, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED, 4, 0x1f000) = 
0x40038000
close(4)= 0
open("i686/mmx/libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("i686/libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("mmx/libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY)  = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/home/askwar/.kde/lib/libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or 
directory)
open("/usr/lib/libglut.so.3", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
open("/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY)  = 4
fstat(4, {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=97899, ...}) = 0
old_mmap(NULL, 97899, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 4, 0) = 0x40039000
close(4)= 0
open("/usr/X11R6/lib/libglut.so.3", 

Re: [Cooker] ldconfig...

2000-11-20 Thread Patrick Poncet

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> 
> Patrick Poncet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > When installing new packages running ldconfig, I get the following
> > error...  Running ldconfig from the command line does the same...  That
> > after upgrading glibc.
> >
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_nis.so.1 (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_files.so.1 (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_dns.so.1 (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> > ldconfig: warning: can't open /lib/libnss_compat.so.1 (No such file or
> > directory), skipping
> >
> > Any idea???  Thanks in advance
> 
> you can rm -f it, (what we maybe should do  in %post of glibc), it's
> when upgrading glibc-2.1.3 to glibc-2.2
> 

rm -f what???




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.0 - two different source?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Gennerat

Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :

> Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > What is the difference between
> > https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-2.4.0-0.3mdk.src.rpm
>
> the src of rpm.

The src used to make the binary rpm, I think

>
>
> > and:
> > https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-source-2.4.0-0.3mdk.i586.rpm
>
> --=-=-=
> The kernel-source package contains the source code files for the Linux
> kernel. These source files are needed to build most C programs, since
> they depend on the constants defined in the source code. The source
> files can also be used to build a custom kernel that is better tuned to
> your particular hardware, if you are so inclined (and you know what you're
> doing).
> --=-=-=

It looks like a source tree. But I cannot compile a kernel with it,
because include/pcmcia is missing, as I said for hackkernel.


And the kernel headers have only 2 directories, the same as the
include/asm and include/linux of the kernel source.
So I do not need kernel-headers.







Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmmp-0.5.0-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Lenny Cartier

Meir Faraj wrote:
> 
> could it be used to convert to the oggvorbis format ? ;-)
> 
> On Monday 20 November 2000 13:15, you wrote:
> > [Contrib-RPM]
> >
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: xmmp Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 0.5.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft

from the website :

Features 
 The X Multimedia Project (xmmp) is a complete suite for the playback of
the most common Multimedia Files under Linux X11 Environments. Control
is provided by a fully user
 configurable (skinned) Interface. The supported file formats and output
devices:

 Audio: 
  WAVE ( PCM and GSM 6.10 ) 
  MPEG 1, 2, 2.5 Layer 1/2/3 
  All module formats supported by MikMod ( MikMod Package required ) 

 Video: 
  MPEG 1 ( smpeg library required ) 
  MPEG 2 and ac3 audio ( with included LibMPEG3 ) 
  AVI ( w32 dlls can be used ). Extremely beta... and only tested with
divxc32.dll. Not really usable. 

 Sound Output: 
  OSS 
  ALSA ( ALSA package required ) 

 Graph Output: 
  X11 
  SDL ( SDL library required ) 
-- 

--
Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"L'open source pour les moines, ça tombe carrement sous le sens" (c)
Vince




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] modutils-2.3.20-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Gennerat

Vincent Danen a écrit :

> On Fri Nov 17, 2000 at 03:11:27PM +0100, Christian Gennerat wrote:
>
> > Chmouel Boudjnah a écrit :
> >
> > > Name: modutils Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > > Version : 2.3.20Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > > Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Thu Nov 16 16:17:24 2000
> > > Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: no.mandrakesoft.com
> > > Group   : System/Kernel and hardwareSource RPM: (none)
> > > Size: 191481   License: GPL
> > > Packager: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Summary : The kernel daemon (kerneld) and kernel module utilities.
> >
> > I have upgraded with it in my PC running mdk7.2 Odissey
> > Then I have rebooted.
> > I cannot access the modules any more.
> > depmod -av replies only "\n"
> >
> > no modules -> no drivers -> no cd, no network
> > I think I must re-install all.

In fact, I have a small partition (100 Mo) with a reduced Mandrake 7.0
on the same machine, which can access to cdrom or nfs

>
>
> Why did you install the cooker modutils?  There is an official update
> for 7.2 that works fine...

I have tested  modutils-2.3.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm from
ftp.tu-clausthal.demodutils-2.3.20-1.1mdk.i586.rpm  
/pub/linux/mandrake/updates/7.2/RPMS/
and I have exactly the same:
depmod -av
does not output anything.

Have you tested this version?

> On both 7.1 and 7.2, /sbin/depmod -a runs
> fine and generates the new modules.* files without a problem.  I think
> because of the different compilers used, you blew your system using a
> cooker modutils instead of the 7.2 modutils MandrakeUpdate provides.

I have re-installed modutils-2.3.1.19.1 (downloaded from cooker on Oct 31),
and it works fine again.






[Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] xmmp-0.5.0-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj


could it be used to convert to the oggvorbis format ? ;-)
 
On Monday 20 November 2000 13:15, you wrote:
> [Contrib-RPM]
>
> --=-=-=
> Name: xmmp Relocations: (not relocateable)
> Version : 0.5.0 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Mon Nov 20 12:00:11
> 2000 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
> bi.mandrakesoft.com Group   : Sound Source RPM:
> (none)
> Size: 587235   License: GPL
> Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> URL : http://www.frozenproductions.com/xmmp/
> Summary : Creating, playing and converting multimedia files and streams
> Description :
> The aim is to create a modular, highly extendable multimedia system for
> creating, playing and converting multimedia files and streams. As well
> as creating a Media Player for Linux.
>
> There are several applications for Linux - but all with their own
> advantages and disadvantages. Some have a monolithic structure and are
> not extendable, others support only audio formats. None  of them is
> really flexible enough for all purposes.
>
> This Project is divided into three parts:
>
> Multimedia library ( libxmm )
> Is the interface between applications ( player, file creators, ... )
> and the Input / Output Plugins.
>
> Plugins
> Dynamic libraries needed for supporting the Input Formats, Output
> Formats, Graphic and Sound Devices.
>
> Media Player
> A skinned user interface to the library. Provides a library which
> can be used by plugins to create their own skinned windows.
>
> --=-=-=
>
> * Mon Nov 20 2000 Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 0.5.0-1mdk
>
> - new in contribs




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] expat-1.1-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Daouda LO

Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> --=-=-=

[...]

> * Mon Nov 20 2000 Frederic Lepied <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.1-1mdk
> 
> - first version
^

hmmm ..
[daouda@ke daouda]$ rpm -qpi /contrib/RPMS/expat-1.1-3mdk.i586.rpm 
Name: expatRelocations: (not relocateable)
Version : 1.1   Vendor: MandrakeSoft
Release : 3mdk  Build Date: Wed Aug 30 16:40:57 2000
Install date: (not installed)   Build Host: bi.mandrakesoft.com
Group   : PublishingSource RPM: expat-1.1-3mdk.src.rpm
Size: 289568   License: GPL
Packager: Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
URL : http://www.jclark.com/xml/expat.html
Summary : XML 1.0 parser
Description :
Expat is an XML 1.0 parser written in C.  It aims to be fully conforming. It
is currently not a validating XML parser.
[daouda@ke daouda]$ 

 

> 
> -- 
> http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/cookerdevel.php3




Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Larry Marshall


This thread has become mired in vitriole that is really being
mis-directed.

> Well, as we are all discovering right now, that is because there are
> different 'versions' of 7.2, all of them clearly marked as '7.2', with no
> real way of differentiating them, and what you get when you get them.

You're absolutely correct and this is the real problem.  I'm not even
sure that the Mandrake folks understand the extent of damage they are
doing with this marketing policy.  I and others got caught up in a
thread similar to this over C++ libraries in 7.1.  From what I can see
the problem is that MacMillan doesn't just take the two iso disks and
burn them to commercial ones, they have decided to eliminate the
extended disk in their Complete packages.  The result is that some
stuff has to move from the extended disk to the main one and some
stuff has to be eliminated from the main disk to accommodate this.

The result is, as you describe - all versions of 7.2 are not created
equal, not in terms of third party extras but rather with respect to
the base disks that most people in these conferences use as a
reference.  

Matters become more confusing when they change the commercial packages
without making any change to box and they have admitted that they're
doing just that.  I bought two copies of 7.1 and they were
significantly different from one another.  The 7.2 scheme is clear. 
What's in the stores now will change after xmas.

What people here should understand is that this affects what advice
people CAN give here and elsewhere as people are coming to these
conferences with different packages, though they're calling them all
the same thing.  What Mandrake needs to understand is that these
marketing policies are driving people to download the isos and AVOID
buying their commercial products.  This, I suspect, is hardly what
Mandrake is thinking about when they decide to leave the ext disk out
of their Complete package.

> Decidedly, bsed on this experience, this is the last time I will have spent
> any sort of money on a MacMillan, and particularly a Mandrake product -
> after all, the free downloads *ARE* more complete, so why am I spending my
> money on something that only provides partially what's needed.
> 
> Too bad, truly, since I really wanted to send some money Mandrake's way.

I said pretty much the same thing in another forum.  I've installed
several copies for people and have always told them to buy the
commercial package, mostly because I felt that Mandrake needed the
support.  But once I saw that these packages were changing and that I
couldn't depend on the files I wanted being there, I've since just
used my own disks to install for these people and have warned them of
the problem.  MacMillan can talk all they want about "Complete isn't
complete" but to not include the basic two disk distribution in
anything they shrinkwrap with that version number doesn't make any
sense.

So Harry, you may have been a bit snippy with your original post. 
You've also received a whole bunch of 'snip' in return.  But the truth
of the matter is that Mandrake is shooting themselves in the foot with
this stuff and it's the messengers that are being shot by its
defenders.

Cheers --- Larry




[Cooker] blt-2.4i-13mdk doesn't build

2000-11-20 Thread Pedro Rosa

/usr/include/bits/string.h:21:3: warning: suggest hiding #error from traditional C 
with an indented #
In file included from /usr/include/string.h:361,
 from tclInt.h:49,
 from bltParse.c:22:
/usr/include/bits/string2.h:22:3: warning: suggest hiding #error from traditional C 
with an indented #
In file included from bltParse.c:23:
tclInt.h:705: warning: declaration of `index' shadows global declaration
tclInt.h:746: redefinition of `Tcl_ThreadCreateProc'
/usr/include/tcl.h:403: `Tcl_ThreadCreateProc' previously declared here
bltParse.c: In function `Blt_ParseBraces':
bltParse.c:311: warning: subscript has type `char'
bltParse.c: In function `Blt_ParseQuotes':
bltParse.c:487: warning: subscript has type `char'
make[1]: *** [bltParse.o] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/blt2.4i/src'
make: *** [all] Error 2
Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.8111 (%build)

Have the last tcl/tk on place.





[Cooker] Python 2 misses a require

2000-11-20 Thread Pedro Rosa

BLT is needed to compile Python 2. However the requires tag misses it.

Ektanoor





Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> > 
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: openuniverse Relocations: (not relocateable)
> 
> > --=-=-=
> > 
> > * Fri Nov 17 2000 Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0-0.beta3.1mdk
> > 
> > - first mdk package
> 
> ...second mdk package...was in contribs for more than a month.

Yes, sorry, I did not see it.



-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Re: [Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Guillaume Cottenceau

Alexander Skwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> So sprach Guillaume Cottenceau am Sun, Nov 19, 2000 at 10:22:58PM +0100:
> > Sorry I did not see that it was in contribs, I did it from scratch.
> 
> Hey, that's fine!  I'm *ALWAYS* grateful to get a reply :]
> 
> Just curious.  I see that this package does not require glui.  Did you
> compile it with or without glui?  If you've chosen sans glui, should I send
> you a package which contains glui?  OU really is a lot more useful with glui

What does it bring?


> IMHO.  And, did you actually really rebuild it from scratch, or did you
> "just" modify the SuSE RPM to fit to Mandrake?

I hate suse.


-- 
Guillaume Cottenceau -- Distribution Developer for MandrakeSoft
http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/




Antwort: Re: [Cooker] Amd and linux

2000-11-20 Thread Nigel . Webber




I have an AMD Athlon 1.1G, Asus A7V Motherboard, Tekram U160 SCSI controller,
IBM U160 SCSI drive with Elsa Gladiac Geforce2GTS and MDK7.2.

It all works fine far less problems than when trying to get same combination
running on W2K (which required me to
download loads of driver updates).

BIOS's on AMD motherboards / Geforce graphics cards seem to be in a state of
flux - download the updates before
installing MDK.

Oh... and AMD seem to be getting such good yields, that a 700/800 MHz
Thunderbird can easily be pushed to 1G / 1.1G using standard voltage settings
and heatsink for a 1G processor. Just get a graphite pen and short out the L2
links on the top of the processor before you plug it in (same goes for Durons,
700MHz durons run well at 1G). See www.tomshardware.com for info.

>I guess it is IBM 486SLC40, no?  It was very nice, enhanced 386SLC which at
>some time IBM decided to rename to 486SLC (as performance was comparable to
>486sx level, it had extra cahe comparing to 486sx)

My second PC!! Complete with two (2!) MB of ram and an ISA graphics card -
friends used to come around and marvel at its speed!!!

Nigel










[Cooker] new kernel-2.4 rpm

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah


https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/kernel24/

* Sun Nov 19 2000 Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 2.4.0-0.4mdk

- BuildRequires: egcs if enabling kgcc.
- Don't copy all configs file from RPM_SOURCES_DIR to configs/ copy
  one and the generated one.
- set CONFIG_BLK_DEV_OFFBOARD.
- unset CONFIG_INET_ECN.
- Don't update acpi (doen't build at the moment).
- test11(final).


-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Nautilus Preview 2

2000-11-20 Thread Frederic Crozat

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes") writes:

> Hello
>   Per chance, have someone got Nautilus Preview 2 running on 7.2?  How
> about evolution?

Not on 7.2 but I think I'll upload nautilus 0.5 (PR2) this week on
cooker..

You'll then be able to recompile it on 7.2

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] gnome-vfs dependancy

2000-11-20 Thread Frederic Crozat

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Stefan van der Eijk) writes:

> The dependancy on gnome-vfs-0.3.1-7mdk is not correct at the moment.
> While rebuilding this package I get:
> 
> gnome-vfs-0.3.1-7mdk.src.rpm.txt
> error: failed build dependencies:
> GConf-devel is needed by gnome-vfs-0.3.1-7mdk
> Installing /mirrors/SRPMS/gnome-vfs-0.3.1-7mdk.src.rpm
> 
> GConf-devel is obselete. Currently the GConf group of packages are:
> 
> GConf-0.8-3mdk
> libGConf1-devel-0.8-3mdk
> libGConf1-0.8-3mdk

We are currently upgrading bonobo/GConf/gnome-vfs to be able to upload
nautilus so be a little patient :))
> 
> Stefan
> 

-- 
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft




Re: [Cooker] **Why is joe missing from 7.2!!!???**

2000-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,

> 
> Well, as we are all discovering right now, that is because there are
> different 'versions' of 7.2, all of them clearly marked as '7.2', with no
> real way of differentiating them, and what you get when you get them.
> 
> Thus, *your* 7.2 *has* joe, and thus *my* 7.2 does *not* have joe.
> 
> Thanks to Pixel for pointing to the faq that somehow explains this, albeit
> it still lacks a list of what files are missing from the 'complete' version
> from MacMillan.
>


Think about this, I didn't tell you to look through the CD: it's still available
for downlaod and yes I admit the marketing is probably bad, and I can understand
why you must be frustrated but: at leaset please search through the Mandrake 
ftp directory before you decidly try to flame the list for having removed joe.
 
My point in my "arrogance" (as you call it) is because you decide to flame the
list, at least try to be a bit polite? You know people here are all trying to
help, and langague may differ (depending on humour and mood) I hope you understnad
people on this list are not dummys for you to bash.

Ok, let's stop at that.

-- 
Geoffrey Lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
§õªø­·

~/.signature ¤¤¤åbig5 compliant (You can't see it thanks to new glibc. :p)

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"Seven days in a honeymoon makes one whole week."




Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Please don't do the libstdc bit until sunrise Wednesday (GMT or
> thereabouts)!

ok :) i didn't plan to do it until a weeks or so.

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Leon Brooks

Chmouel Boudjnah wrote:
> i guess with
> the upload of python-2 there is only the kernel-2.4.0 to finish the
> upgrade and the switch to libstdc++-v3 (aka: we break everything again
> and again).

Please don't do the libstdc bit until sunrise Wednesday (GMT or thereabouts)!

-- 
OK, I'm weird, but I'm saving up to be eccentric.




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] perl-5.700-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Geoffrey Lee

Yo,

On Mon, Nov 20, 2000 at 01:18:31AM +0200, Meir Faraj wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> why in contrib and not in main ?


Coz he's devel stuff..


> 
> On Monday 20 November 2000 01:15, you wrote:
> > [Contrib-RPM]
> >
> > --=-=-=
> > Name: perl Relocations: (not relocateable)
> > Version : 5.700 Vendor: MandrakeSoft
> > Release : 1mdk  Build Date: Sun Nov 19 23:50:26
> > 2000 Install date: (not installed)   Build Host:
> > no.mandrakesoft.com Group   : Development/Perl  Source RPM:
> > (none)
> > Size: 4792690  License: GPL
> > Packager: Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Summary : The Perl programming language.
> > Description :
> > Perl is a high-level programming language with roots in C, sed, awk
> > and shell scripting.  Perl is good at handling processes and files,
> > and is especially good at handling text.  Perl's hallmarks are
> > practicality and efficiency.  While it is used to do a lot of
> > different things, Perl's most common applications (and what it excels
> > at) are probably system administration utilities and web programming.
> > A large proportion of the CGI scripts on the web are written in Perl.
> > You need the perl package installed on your system so that your
> > system can handle Perl scripts.
> >
> > You need perl-base to have a full perl.
> >
> > --=-=-=
> >
> > * Sun Nov 19 2000 Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 5.700-1mdk
> >
> > - new version

-- 
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Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> this will mean that in few days or week evrything will be broken again?;-)
> so ifwe wanna get an idea about the cooker we have to wait few week (about a 
> month ?)

likely..

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




[Cooker] POP3 server is BUGGY in 7.2!!!

2000-11-20 Thread Alen Salamun



Hi!
 
I had problems with POP clients that tried to 
retrieve mail. It only worked if client was configured "Delete messages on 
server" if it was setup with "Leave messages on server" it just hanged on 
"Retrieving messages list...".
 
This was tried with MANY email clients (Netscape, 
Outlook, Calypso). Machines checking mail have REAL IP's so it is not an 
DNS problem or something like that.
 
When I grabbed older ipop3d everything worked 
again! I used version v7.59!
 
Any ideas?
 
Bye, Alen


Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Monday 20 November 2000 12:05, you wrote:
> Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > About 26 hours from now, I'm planning to plug into a fat pipe and absorb
> > a copy of Cooker from the nearest (AARNet, Queensland) mirror. Are you
> > (Mandrake) guys planning on uploading anything  in the next day or so
> > which is likely to break (e.g. highly experimental KDE-2 updates)?
>
> KDE-2 is nothing again a new gcc or kernel or glibc, but i guess with
> the upload of python-2 there is only the kernel-2.4.0 to finish the
> upgrade and the switch to libstdc++-v3 (aka: we break everything again
> and again).
this will mean that in few days or week evrything will be broken again?;-)
so ifwe wanna get an idea about the cooker we have to wait few week (about a 
month ?)




Re: [Cooker] Re: [Contrib-Rpm] perl-5.700-1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Pixel

Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Pixel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > Meir Faraj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > 
> > > why in contrib and not in main ?
> > 
> > it's a devel version.
> 
> so why not hackperl ?

oups, sorry. I'll change for next version




Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Meir Faraj

On Monday 20 November 2000 11:59, you wrote:
> About 26 hours from now, I'm planning to plug into a fat pipe and absorb a
> copy of Cooker from the nearest (AARNet, Queensland) mirror. Are you
> (Mandrake) guys planning on uploading anything  in the next day or so which
> is likely to break (e.g. highly experimental KDE-2 updates)?
for it wasen't install (butI think it was a miroror problem so I'm 
downloading it now from the sunsite site ;-)
26 H is a lot of time from my experience you will have to redownload near to 
60M with rerunning fmirror or something like it ;-)

is not a problem with fmirror you will have an exact copy afterr rerunning it 
sometime.

for the unstability level I didn't know since I've never tryed it 




Re: [Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> About 26 hours from now, I'm planning to plug into a fat pipe and absorb a copy
> of Cooker from the nearest (AARNet, Queensland) mirror. Are you (Mandrake) guys
> planning on uploading anything  in the next day or so which is likely to break
> (e.g. highly experimental KDE-2 updates)?

KDE-2 is nothing again a new gcc or kernel or glibc, but i guess with
the upload of python-2 there is only the kernel-2.4.0 to finish the
upgrade and the switch to libstdc++-v3 (aka: we break everything again
and again).

-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




Re: [Cooker] kernel-2.4.0 - two different source?

2000-11-20 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah

Christian Gennerat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> What is the difference between
> https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-2.4.0-0.3mdk.src.rpm

the src of rpm.

> and:
> https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-source-2.4.0-0.3mdk.i586.rpm

--=-=-=
The kernel-source package contains the source code files for the Linux
kernel. These source files are needed to build most C programs, since
they depend on the constants defined in the source code. The source
files can also be used to build a custom kernel that is better tuned to
your particular hardware, if you are so inclined (and you know what you're
doing).
--=-=-=


-- 
MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org
  --Chmouel




[Cooker] Cooker stability question for FTP site maintainer

2000-11-20 Thread Leon Brooks

About 26 hours from now, I'm planning to plug into a fat pipe and absorb a copy
of Cooker from the nearest (AARNet, Queensland) mirror. Are you (Mandrake) guys
planning on uploading anything  in the next day or so which is likely to break
(e.g. highly experimental KDE-2 updates)?

-- 
"USENET is not a right. USENET is a right, a left, a jab, and a 
sharp uppercut to the jaw. The postman hits!  You have new mail." 
-- Ed Vielmetti & Chip Salzenberg




[Cooker] kernel-2.4.0 - two different source?

2000-11-20 Thread Christian Gennerat

What is the difference between
https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-2.4.0-0.3mdk.src.rpm
and:
https://kenobi.mandrakesoft.com/~chmou/kernel24/kernel-source-2.4.0-0.3mdk.i586.rpm

--
The falsely dramatic drives out the truly dull.






Re: [Cooker] Nautilus Preview 2

2000-11-20 Thread Yoann Vandoorselaere

Patrick Poncet <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> Hey!
> 
> Im trying to get nautilus working...  But the ./configure command fails
> on freetype2 akthough I have freetype2-2.0-1mdk and
> freetype2-devel-2.0-1mdk installed.

You need a devel version of freetype :

http://developer.eazel.com/eazel-hacking/updates/freetype2/freetype2-1.0beta8-0_eazel_1.i386.rpm
http://developer.eazel.com/eazel-hacking/updates/freetype2/freetype2-devel-1.0beta8-0_eazel_1.i386.rpm


-- 
-- Yoann http://www.mandrakesoft.com/~yoann/
In a world without walls or fences, 
what use do we have for windows or gates?




[Cooker] Re: [CHRPM] openuniverse-1.0-0.beta3.1mdk

2000-11-20 Thread Lenny Cartier

Guillaume Cottenceau wrote:
> 
> --=-=-=
> Name: openuniverse Relocations: (not relocateable)

> --=-=-=
> 
> * Fri Nov 17 2000 Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1.0-0.beta3.1mdk
> 
> - first mdk package

...second mdk package...was in contribs for more than a month.

lenny
-- 

--
Lenny Cartier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
"L'open source pour les moines, ça tombe carrement sous le sens" (c)
Vince




Re: [Cooker] Nautilus Preview 2

2000-11-20 Thread Roberto Rosselli Del Turco

"Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes" wrote:
> 
> Hello
> Per chance, have someone got Nautilus Preview 2 running on 7.2?  How
> about evolution?

Evolution works well on 7.2, no problem at all (I'm using the latest
Helix Gnome setup).
 
> Many thanks
> 
> Regards
> 
> Eduardo
 
Ciao

-- 
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Dipartimento di Scienze [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Universita' di Torino   Datta: what have we given?  (TSE)
 
  Hige sceal the heardra, heorte the cenre,
  mod sceal the mare,   the ure maegen litlath.  (Maldon 312-3)