Re: [Cooker] Mdk 8.2 release date
Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a fixed date for the Mdk8.2 release ? Monday, the 18th Can you do a checkpoint please ? Depressing-suicide-oriented high level of stress due to: - this smbfs oops - updates during install - imap pb - my washing machine makes strange noise (not directly linked to the distro) What is missing, how can we help you ? Test. Thanks, Mdk 8.2 will be the best one ! Until now. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] (resolved) Xdmcp broken
--- SI Reasoning [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This did not work for me. in /etc/hosts I put #dhcp dynamic entry marygrace 192.168.1.3 jillestial.home.network jillestial 192.168.1.6 siway.home.network siway #dhcp dynamic entry sidell - Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to solve. I use this script to force my machine's configured hostname to be associated with a dynamic dhcp IP address; if I do not do this, then my machine, which I named foo.whateveriwant.com, will think that the dhcp interface is named something like wkst0023.whateverthenetadminswant.com. So I do not know if this is what you want. Further, it is meant to handle just one entry in the hosts file. Good luck. = Eugenio Diaz, BSEE/BSCE Linux Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Sports - live college hoops coverage http://sports.yahoo.com/
Re: [Cooker] Mdk 8.2 release date
Can we download the isos this week-end to test (and where) ? Thanks for your work. From: Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mdk 8.2 release date Date: Sat, 16 Mar 2002 09:21:16 +0100 Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is there a fixed date for the Mdk8.2 release ? Monday, the 18th Can you do a checkpoint please ? Depressing-suicide-oriented high level of stress due to: - this smbfs oops - updates during install - imap pb - my washing machine makes strange noise (not directly linked to the distro) What is missing, how can we help you ? Test. Thanks, Mdk 8.2 will be the best one ! Until now. -- Warly = _ Téléchargez MSN Explorer gratuitement à l'adresse http://explorer.msn.fr/intl.asp.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 RC1 install and cooker updates
÷ óÂÔ, 16.03.2002, × 00:26, Serge Pluess ÎÁÐÉÓÁÌ: But if I reboot I can't start X unless I do a insmod NVdriver manually as root first. The line it puts into modules.conf is: alias /dev/nvidia/* NVdriver alias /dev/nvidia* NVdriver remove the slash. If it works for you send bug report to nVidia. If they get many bug reports chances are they release updated driver when 8.2 is out. I tried to change that to : alias char-major-195 NVdriver no it's not going to work with devfs. Ideally you want both lines so that both devfs and non-devfs cases work. -andrej
[Cooker] wvdial-1.42-1mdk missing a man page in 8.2 RC1
I was very happy to see wvdial included in 8.2rc1. However, the wvdial-1.42-1mdk rpm is missing the wvdial.conf.1 man page (there is a man page for wvdialconf the program, but not wvdial.conf the file format, which does come with the tar ball). Mikko
[Cooker] deps on contribs
Hi, $ cat VERSION Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020315 20:22 MISSING_DEPENDENCIES snf-en-8.2-6mdk.noarch fwlogwatch MISSING_DEPENDENCIES MySQL-bench-3.23.47-5mdk.i586 perl-GD MISSING_DEPENDENCIES snf-de-8.2-6mdk.noarch fwlogwatch MISSING_DEPENDENCIES snf-fr-8.2-6mdk.noarch fwlogwatch Why not including these two little packages (fwlogwatch and perl-GD) in the main RPMS folder? This seems wroong. If the deps are mixed between the main distrib and contrib, then why having two directories at all? Also when a problem is reported with a contrib package, it is invariably answered that these are not supported. Finally, I feel snf is going to have a lot of attention. This would be nice if a one didn't have to face missing deps after downloading the regular isos. Even if some magic would tell me the missing package is in contrib, I am not sure I'd like to start connecting to the outside to get it _before_ installing the firewall. =--= kk1
[Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Ron - keep up the good work. Mandrake folks - ditto, but either let's have a deep freeze or let's get Cooker fixed - you can't deep freeze a wildly moving target. As a quality engineer, I think Ron has a legitimate complaint about the response to his defect report - one of his drives is rendered unusable by rogue modifications to lilo.conf via an action that no reasonable user would expect to modify lilo.conf. IN THE ABSENCE of documented defect classification, life cycle and escalation/resolution policies, and in the absence of documented target-user profiles eliminating users with multiple optical drives, this does sound like a defect that could affect a potentially significant population of users. Personally, I'd be willing to bet that at least one reviewer will be bitten by this - and Mandrake really needs as smooth sailing in the review press as we can possibly get. 8.2 CAN be the best Mandrake ever - if not the best Linux ever. I've been using Mandrake since 7.1 and have NOT been happy with the intervening releases' stability on any of my systems. It's great to have the latest and greatest kernel and packages - and people will put up with a certain amount of fit and finish polishing... but to have what (to the user or reviewer) appear to be casual and obvious inconsistencies is not the way to effectively compete against Red Hat - let alone Windows. Thanks, everybody! Jeff Dickey Seven Sigma Software and Services Phone: +1 661 588 2917 Phone: +1 425 885 6280 Pager: +1 800 931 4233 Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (preferred) Email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Home page (with résumé): http://www.seven-sigma.com/ PGP key fingerprint: 6BAC 8806 2480 BC1B 0388 2521 CB5B 552F ---Original Message--- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, March 15, 2002 03:41:55 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER! Pixel wrote: - this is much too late, we're in deep freeze Judging by the rate of changes to Cooker, you most certainly are not in any deep freeze. - bug report must give more information to be helpful That is not possible, and not a way out for you. Find the problem fix it. - please choose an appropriate Subject: - this is of course not a show stopper, even if I agree it would be nicer if this kind of bug would be fixed (I tried some upgrades and my fstab was correct after upgrading) me too, over 50 of them for 8.2 so far. You see that 49 is not a sufficient number to uncover all the bugs. The simplest explain is that the partition number is occasionally corrupted (5 changed to 7 in this case) on the earliest /etc/fstab read, but not for the writeback. BTW, thanks for the package only update option. - your messages are much too agressive = i usually don't read your mails Ho hum. I an just honestly reflecting back to you what it is like out here with Cooker so far. That is a fair service. I regret your attitude, but it is field reality, is it not? -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Walser wrote: --- Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be safe, submit it to mandrakeuser.org as eratta and start the thread _before_ the official release. 8) I've reported this two or three times. Nobody even told me who the xinitrc maintainer was. You can check it up in == Software Manager == Installed == Flat List == xinitrc == changelog == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.4.4-60mdk this is the last changelog, not the maintainer. the maintainer is: % rpmmon -p xinitrc flepied
[Cooker] Open Office unpacking error
Hello That morning's cooker update for openoffice gave me that error : openoffice #error: unpacking of archive failed on file /usr/share/icons/locolor/32x32/apps/015_math_document.xpm;3c931d46: cpio: read failed - Mauvais descripteur de fichier Any idea ? +++ Stef
[Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. I quit using nautilus because it is clipping the background behind the icons and it's disturbing. And I don't like it in general. $ rpm -q gnome-core gmc gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk gmc-4.5.55-7mdk It's been reported for ever and happens on two different machines. When I start the bg applet with a right click, the preset is correct and I just have to click on apply. This is just an annoyance. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
On Fridayen den 15 March 2002 12.36, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: On 15 Mar 2002, Yves Duret wrote: AFAIK usually all the apache/php stuff are recompiled before release.. jmdault, mrnet can you see for adding the correct imap-ssl option to php-imap ? We're in Deep Freeze, so the option will not be added for the 8.2. It will, however, as soon as it's tested, be included on www.advx.org. Jean-Michel Great!. -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 02:29, Pixel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Walser wrote: --- Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be safe, submit it to mandrakeuser.org as eratta and start the thread _before_ the official release. 8) I've reported this two or three times. Nobody even told me who the xinitrc maintainer was. You can check it up in == Software Manager == Installed == Flat List == xinitrc == changelog == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.4.4-60mdk this is the last changelog, not the maintainer. the maintainer is: % rpmmon -p xinitrc flepied Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the Mandrake web? I could put a smart bookmark on Galeon, that'd be sweet. =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
On Fridayen den 15 March 2002 22.18, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
Oden Eriksson wrote:
Stefan van der Eijk writes:
/usr/share/ssl/certs/imapsd.pem does not exisit, neither does the
/usr/share/ssl/certs directory (/usr/share/ssl directory does exist).
Oops.
Is this:
- SSL stuff is in %_libdir/ssl not in %_sharedir/ssl !!
reflected in the sysv scripts (or where ever)?
??
It's one patch that's wrong:
just change SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs to SSLCERTS=/usr/lib/ssl/certs
in imap-2001a-ssl.patch.bz2
While you're at it, the build_prior_82 doesn't make sense to me at the
moment. Cooker is the RC of 8.2, shouldn't this parameter be set to 0?
and perhaps the EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \ should also be put between
a %if !%{build_prior_82}(since I think it's related to krb -- with
these parameters enabled it won't compile without krb5-devel installed).
Stefan
Aha, yes you're right. I see what I can do.
--
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
On Fridayen den 15 March 2002 12.36, Jean-Michel Dault wrote: On 15 Mar 2002, Yves Duret wrote: AFAIK usually all the apache/php stuff are recompiled before release.. jmdault, mrnet can you see for adding the correct imap-ssl option to php-imap ? We're in Deep Freeze, so the option will not be added for the 8.2. It will, however, as soon as it's tested, be included on www.advx.org. Regarding: http://www.advx.org/files/java/ This is awesome !!! Does it work ok on latest Cooker? This is far out !!! I tried to make this happen in December but it was so difficult I had to give up... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
[Cooker] bluebird name
Who's idea was bluebird ? Is it related to CIA's human behaviour program called BLUEBIRD - research of mind control techniques (brainwashing) - originated in 1950 and later known as ARTICHOKE ? Just curious ... (anyway, good work, 8.2 looks very good) -- Martin Maok http://underground.cz/ [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://Xtrmntr.org/ORBman/
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's one patch that's wrong:
just change SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs to SSLCERTS=/usr/lib/ssl/certs in
imap-2001a-ssl.patch.bz2
i am testin it on fresh clean install.
worked for me (c) (but i tested with upgrade)
While you're at it, the build_prior_82 doesn't make sense to me at the moment.
Cooker is the RC of 8.2, shouldn't this parameter be set to 0?
and perhaps the EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \ should also be put between a %if
!%{build_prior_82}(since I think it's related to krb -- with these parameters
enabled it won't compile without krb5-devel installed).
you are completly right.
--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
--- Jeff Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ron - keep up the good work.
Mandrake folks - ditto, but either let's have a deep
freeze or let's get
Cooker fixed - you can't deep freeze a wildly moving
target.
As a quality engineer, I think Ron has a legitimate
complaint about the
response to his defect report - one of his drives is
rendered unusable by
rogue modifications to lilo.conf via an action that
no reasonable user would
expect to modify lilo.conf. IN THE ABSENCE of
documented defect
classification, life cycle and escalation/resolution
policies, and in the
absence of documented target-user profiles
eliminating users with multiple
optical drives, this does sound like a defect that
could affect a
potentially significant population of users.
Personally, I'd be willing to
bet that at least one reviewer will be bitten by
this - and Mandrake really
needs as smooth sailing in the review press as we
can possibly get.
8.2 CAN be the best Mandrake ever - if not the best
Linux ever. I've been
using Mandrake since 7.1 and have NOT been happy
with the intervening
releases' stability on any of my systems. It's
great to have the latest and
greatest kernel and packages - and people will put
up with a certain amount
of fit and finish polishing... but to have what (to
the user or reviewer)
appear to be casual and obvious inconsistencies is
not the way to
effectively compete against Red Hat - let alone
Windows.
I am in complete agreement on this. I think that 8.2
is ready for beta now, not release. There are plenty
of small (and some not so small things) left that need
to be addressed. I love Mandrake, but I have yet to
have a version I can call stable. If I try to put this
out on a corporate desktop, it will create the
opposite effect that I would want, more calls from
users claiming that the system is broken. The
non-technical masses really just want something that
works properly. I feel this version is the closest to
date to getting stable, but it is still not there yet.
There are enough unresolved issues on this mailing
list to call for another release candidate. I know
that it is boring and exhausting for creative types to
get locked up in debugging, but releasing 8.2 as is
will be missing the polish that I feel is necessary
for an effective release geared towards the desktop.
The biggest issue, as I see it, is that once 8.2 is
released, most of the attention returns to cooker.
This leaves 8.2 bugs and annoyances pretty much
abandoned. If you are going to release now, then I
believe that there should be a continued updateng of
8.2 until it reaches that polished state. Then, you
could develop the reputation that your newest releases
are for home users and others with non-critical
systems that get the latest and greatest, while
Corporate users and other systems that depend on
stability and flawlessness for wide implementation
(generally to moderate to novice users). In short,
whenever a new version is close to release, then one
would know that the prior version has had all of its
bugs resolved and annoyances fixed and is safe for
wider deployment. Unfortunately, I can not say this
about any prior version. :-{
I don't mean to come off sounding so harsh. I actually
feel that this version has many major improvements in
speed and usability, and a lot of major bugs have been
squashed during beta. It seems so close (to me, at
least) to reaching what I would consider a release
candidate. I wish that Mandrake would take those extra steps...
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the creator alive.
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Re: [Cooker] Mdk 8.2 release date (washing machine)
On Saturday 16 March 2002 16:21, Warly wrote: Cosmic Flo [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can you do a checkpoint please ? Depressing-suicide-oriented high level of stress due to: Take my advice: never have children. (-: - my washing machine makes strange noise (not directly linked to the distro) I can sympathise, our washing machine started weeing on the floor a few days ago. It doesn't seem to have added mains electricity to the mix. Yet. Thanks for picking Monday for release, it means that at least some local mirrors will have ISOs by Tuesday 19:30 (GMT+08) when I have real bandwidth. Hurrah! It seems to have been a Mandrake tradition to release just *after* the 3rd Tuesday of each month... (-: Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
On Fridayen den 15 March 2002 22.18, Stefan van der Eijk wrote:
Oden Eriksson wrote:
Stefan van der Eijk writes:
/usr/share/ssl/certs/imapsd.pem does not exisit, neither does the
/usr/share/ssl/certs directory (/usr/share/ssl directory does exist).
Oops.
Is this:
- SSL stuff is in %_libdir/ssl not in %_sharedir/ssl !!
reflected in the sysv scripts (or where ever)?
??
It's one patch that's wrong:
just change SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs to SSLCERTS=/usr/lib/ssl/certs
in imap-2001a-ssl.patch.bz2
While you're at it, the build_prior_82 doesn't make sense to me at the
moment. Cooker is the RC of 8.2, shouldn't this parameter be set to 0?
and perhaps the EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \ should also be put between
a %if !%{build_prior_82}(since I think it's related to krb -- with
these parameters enabled it won't compile without krb5-devel installed).
Stefan
Yes, the gss stuff seems to be kerberos related...
[root@hugin imap-2001a]# grep gss Makefile
# gss Kerberos V
I changed the spec file so this is a conditional one too. I also changed the
SSLCERTS dir as above.
--
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Yves Duret wrote:
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's one patch that's wrong:
just change SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs to SSLCERTS=/usr/lib/ssl/certs in
imap-2001a-ssl.patch.bz2
doing that you have to change also SSLDOCS to reflect the new position
(hoping that such position isn't mentioned in printed DOCS).
But why you wanna change SSLCERTS from /usr/share/ssl/certs to
/usr/lib/ssl/certs? To me both place are bad (of course %post
script should be in sync, as now there is /usr/lib/ssl/certs in scripts).
i am testin it on fresh clean install.
worked for me (c) (but i tested with upgrade)
While you're at it, the build_prior_82 doesn't make sense to me at the moment.
Cooker is the RC of 8.2, shouldn't this parameter be set to 0?
and perhaps the EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \ should also be put between a %if
!%{build_prior_82}(since I think it's related to krb -- with these parameters
enabled it won't compile without krb5-devel installed).
yes.
you are completly right.
No, build_prior_82 should be set to 1. Or if you prefer rename
%build_prior_82 to %build_prior_83 or %build_prior_90, otherwise
package name will change to uw-imap. IMHO it's a bit too late to do
this right now (you know we are in deep freeze...).
Bye.
Giuseppe.
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Yves Duret wrote:
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
It's one patch that's wrong:
just change SSLCERTS=/usr/share/ssl/certs to SSLCERTS=/usr/lib/ssl/certs in
imap-2001a-ssl.patch.bz2
i am testin it on fresh clean install.
worked for me (c) (but i tested with upgrade)
I've tested with an upgrade, and it caused the problems I described. I
then uninstalled the package and reinstalled it, no improvement.
I hope the patch can be fixed B4 8.2 is released.
While you're at it, the build_prior_82 doesn't make sense to me at the moment.
Cooker is the RC of 8.2, shouldn't this parameter be set to 0?
and perhaps the EXTRAAUTHENTICATORS=gss \ should also be put between a %if
!%{build_prior_82}(since I think it's related to krb -- with these parameters
enabled it won't compile without krb5-devel installed).
you are completly right.
Thanks :-)
Stefan
Re: [Cooker] bluebird name
Martin Maèok [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Who's idea was bluebird ? Is it related to CIA's human behaviour program called BLUEBIRD - research of mind control techniques (brainwashing) - originated in 1950 and later known as ARTICHOKE ? Just curious ... Hum, Gael has the idea, but I think it is more related to the rocket-car that speed up to 680 mph near salt lake city. -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] Open Office unpacking error
On 16 Mar 2002, Stefan Jourdan wrote: That morning's cooker update for openoffice gave me that error : cpio: read failed - Mauvais descripteur de fichier Any idea ? Likely a corrupted RPM.
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
No, build_prior_82 should be set to 1. Or if you prefer rename %build_prior_82 to %build_prior_83 or %build_prior_90, post_82 ? otherwise package name will change to uw-imap. IMHO it's a bit too late to do this right now (you know we are in deep freeze...). OK. we don't want the package to be renamed, but we do want the krb5 functionality for 8.2, right? How about if a post_82 is defined where we put the name change in? Stefan
[Cooker] 3D acceleration failure with XFree 4.2.0-10 packages
I've been following Mandrake Cooker pretty closely for about three months now, and updating daily with the new binaries as they become available. I'd been using the XFree 4.2.0-3 binaries for some time, and finally decided to upgrade to the -10 packages. Since that upgrade, 3D acceleration with my Radeon card has vanished. This is the output from glxinfo (note the OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect): [claymore:39 cygnet ~] glxinfo name of display: :0.0 Loading required GL library /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 display: :0 screen: 0 direct rendering: No server glx vendor string: SGI server glx version string: 1.2 server glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context client glx vendor string: SGI client glx version string: 1.2 client glx extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context GLX extensions: GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_EXT_import_context OpenGL vendor string: VA Linux Systems, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect OpenGL version string: 1.2 Mesa 3.4.2 OpenGL extensions: GL_ARB_multitexture, GL_EXT_abgr, GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_minmax, GL_EXT_blend_subtract glu version: 1.3 glu extensions: GLU_EXT_nurbs_tessellator, GLU_EXT_object_space_tess visual x bf lv rg d st colorbuffer ax dp st accumbuffer ms cav id dep cl sp sz l ci b ro r g b a bf th cl r g b a ns b eat -- 0x23 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x24 16 tc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None 0x25 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 None 0x26 16 dc 0 16 0 r y . 5 6 5 0 0 16 8 16 16 16 0 0 0 None I've done my best to debug this problem on my own, and I'm coming up blank. The XFree upgrade was performed completely separate from all other packages, and 3D acceleration was working perfectly just before I upgraded and rebooted. Unfortunately, I got rid of the XFree 4.2.0-3 packages before I upgraded, and now I can't revert the changes. If someone could help me with this one, I'd be most appreciative. Thanks!
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I've tested with an upgrade, and it caused the problems I described. I then uninstalled the package and reinstalled it, no improvement. I hope the patch can be fixed B4 8.2 is released. can you test the packages in http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ thanx -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: No, build_prior_82 should be set to 1. Or if you prefer rename %build_prior_82 to %build_prior_83 or %build_prior_90, post_82 ? otherwise package name will change to uw-imap. IMHO it's a bit too late to do this right now (you know we are in deep freeze...). OK. we don't want the package to be renamed, but we do want the krb5 functionality for 8.2, right? How about if a post_82 is defined where we put the name change in? i fix this using the build_prior_82 tag in -4mdk in my people account (see me other mail) -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] Re: imap-2001a-3mdk
Yves Duret wrote: Stefan van der Eijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] I've tested with an upgrade, and it caused the problems I described. I then uninstalled the package and reinstalled it, no improvement. I hope the patch can be fixed B4 8.2 is released. can you test the packages in http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~yduret/ thanx Looks good (running the i586.rpm now, and just rebuilt the src.rpm). It's got my blessing! Stefan
Re: [Cooker] Still no X for Voodoo 3
Ron Stodden wrote: Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: Can you change XFree config file to obtain a working situation? If you can, please provide the diff between the auto configuration and this working configuration and send it to us. Good idea. I had already tried it - unsuccessfully. Now I also have Peter Allen's XF86Config-4. He has a Voodoo 3 3000, like me, but, unlike mine, it is operational. The only differences are that mine supports 15 bit colour and 1152x864. Taking these out makes no difference - startx fails the same way. If you have someone who can have a look at this, I am happy to send that person my XF86Config-4 and the full log from startx. I have sent a report to the XF86 organisation, which has been acknowledged, but no problem response yet. -- Ron. [au]
[Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020315 20:22
This references a new problem with the latest cooker tree: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020315 20:22 The installer tries to install: locales-br-2.3.1.2-8mdk.i586.rpm which it did not do in previous versions. There was an error installing this RPM because non-English RPMs have not been downloaded here. Note that br stands for Breton (not British) and the installation requested English (UK). -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] Open Office unpacking error
Le sam 16/03/2002 à 13:06, Gwenole Beauchesne a écrit : On 16 Mar 2002, Stefan Jourdan wrote: That morning's cooker update for openoffice gave me that error : cpio: read failed - Mauvais descripteur de fichier Any idea ? Likely a corrupted RPM. It was ... +++ Stef
Re: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. I quit using nautilus because it is clipping the background behind the icons and it's disturbing. And I don't like it in general. $ rpm -q gnome-core gmc gnome-core-1.4.0.6-12mdk gmc-4.5.55-7mdk It's been reported for ever and happens on two different machines. When I start the bg applet with a right click, the preset is correct and I just have to click on apply. This is just an annoyance. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. Try removing your ~/.gnome/session, bg-applet is probably not called by initiating gnome session, therefore not setting background.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
Quel Qun wrote:
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the
Mandrake web?
Use rpmfind, select the first result from Mandrake, read the page with
rpm headers, then read the maintainer's name...
Or, if you have the rpm installed, you may use something like :
rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n packagename
Re: [Cooker] mozilla ignores start option set in preferences
Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 05:03:49 +0100, Helge Hielscher a écrit : Under Preferences/Appearance you can set what to open when you start Mozilla. mozilla-0.9.8-9mdk ignores the setting and starts the browser. Thanks for your report.. I hate these kind of bugs :(( It is caused by the -splash option I added last week.. I'll see if I can put a fixed mozilla (without splash screen) in final 8.2.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020315 20:22 - still a SHOW STOPPER!
The following is now updated to reflect: Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020315 20:22 An expert update packages, no package selection, should have no possible reason to interfere with the contents of /etc/lilo.conf. Yet it does as follows: It still does. Every lilo.conf line: append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi hdc=ide-scsi is quietly changed to: append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi This is still true, except it is now: append=devfs=mount hdb=ide-scsi. Thus locking out the use of any second CD device (writer or reader). An expert update packages, no package selection should have no possible reason to interfere with the contents of /etc/fstab. Yet it does as follows: It still does. My /etc/fstab has just been quietly overwritten during an expert update packages, no package selection install by one from another partition, not even mounted! This is a nonsense, since the root partition designation will be incorrect. This problem has persisted consistently in all releases since I started with Mandrake 5.2. Imagine my total _horror_ to find it STILL there in 8.2. SHOW STOPPER! No further news. CD fstab lines have a -- parameter added which is illegal. These will not mount. Fixed, but now worse than ever! Now my two CD normal-mounting lines have been changed to a single supermount line. Supermount in its present state is useless to me. The order of the entries is changed. Still true. The columnisation of the entries is destroyed making the entries less readable. Still true. Remote devices are improperly prefixed by /dev/ as follows: Corrected. /dev/hdg13 /local/mandrake ext2 user,noauto,defaults 0 0 is changed to: /dev/hdg13 /mnt/hd ext2 user,noauto,defaults 0 0 Corrected. Note: /mnt is a symbolic name for /local, which exists to distinguish mount points for remote machines, which have the same mounting point names, because all machines on the LAN are set up identically.I only have two machines, so the other mounts on /remote. /mnt is an badly inadequate concept for networked machines. It should be /machine name. Thanks for beginning to adddress these bad situations. But it is only a beginning and still exhibits a half-hearted rogue update characteristic. Do not diddle around with things that you do not own (fstab and lilo.conf, and many others, are for sacred specification to the system of user requirements). -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:14, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. Try removing your ~/.gnome/session, bg-applet is probably not called by initiating gnome session, therefore not setting background.. Ok, I tried a few things here: I added rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session* as the first line of .xinitrc. For the sake of completness, this is followed by: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_R Multi_key' startgnome As long as I log out of gnome after closing everything, the bg is reloaded when I run startx again. However, if I logout of gnome leaving an app running, the app is not restarted and the bg is gone. There used to be a decent session management with gnome+gmc... =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Jeff Dickey wrote: Ron - keep up the good work. Mandrake folks - ditto, but either let's have a deep freeze or let's get Cooker fixed - you can't deep freeze a wildly moving target. As a quality engineer, I think Ron has a legitimate complaint about the response to his defect report - one of his drives is rendered unusable by rogue modifications to lilo.conf via an action that no reasonable user would expect to modify lilo.conf. IN THE ABSENCE of documented defect classification, life cycle and escalation/resolution policies, and in the absence of documented target-user profiles eliminating users with multiple optical drives, this does sound like a defect that could affect a potentially significant population of users. Personally, I'd be willing to bet that at least one reviewer will be bitten by this - and Mandrake really needs as smooth sailing in the review press as we can possibly get. Well, Jeff, my problem reports all refer to the newly introduced Packages update only installer option. I do not know whether they would crop up for other users of the installer. On the assumption that this feature was added to help beta testers (for which a big thank you G) it may or may not be valid to generalise to all installer users. Re wildly moving target and we are in deep freeze, cooker received 1025 new or changed RPMs in the last 24 hours. Mandrake 8.2 is plainly still in Alpha test and they are improperly co-opting us outside users to assist that process, which should be an internal function. I am looking forward to when Alpha has been completed and Beta and then Gamma testing can commence, but regretfully (and foolishly) that has not happened for any Mandrake release so far. -- Ron. [au]
Re: [Cooker] Sound ?
john == John Moen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: john Hi there ! john I am just wondering, Why is it using ac97 with emu10k1 ? john -- john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: Creative EMU10K1 PCI Audio Driver, version john 0.18, 06:21:21 Mar 5 2002 john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: PCI: Found IRQ 3 for device 02:0a.0 john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: EMU10K1 rev 7 model 0x8069 found, john IO at 0xdf80-0xdf9f, IRQ 3 john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: ac97_codec: AC97 Audio codec, id: john 0x8384:0x7608 (SigmaTel STAC9708) john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD kernel: emu10k1: SBLive! 5.1 card detected john Mar 12 16:05:14 MIDGAARD sound: Loading sound module (emu10k1) succeeded I am not an expert in sound, but I can assure you that emu10k1 requires that you load the ac97_codec module before. Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
Re: [Cooker] PCMCIA card (un)plugging hangs 8.2rc1
mikko == Mikko Huhtala [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: mikko Installed 8.2rc1 on an old Toshiba Tecra 750CDT laptop (5 years or so, mikko Pentium 233 MMX). The machine has 2 PC Card slots, whose controller, mikko Toshiba ToPIC97, is dectected correctly during install. When the mikko machine is booted after install, cardmgr comes up and seems to be mikko running, but no cards are detected. I have a network card in one slot mikko and a modem in the other. If I eject one or the other card, the system mikko hangs immediately. mikko I have been happily using a kernel and a pcmcia-cs package mikko (distributed separately, not the in-kernel thing) compiled from source mikko since 8.0 installation hanged on PCMCIA detection (I installed with mikko 'nopcmcia' passed to kernel). Seems like the pcmcia support must be mikko recompiled for 8.2 as well. Should be fixed in 2.4.18-6mdk kernel. Later, Juan. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:33, Pascal Terjan wrote:
Quel Qun wrote:
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the
Mandrake web?
Use rpmfind, select the first result from Mandrake, read the page with
rpm headers, then read the maintainer's name...
Or, if you have the rpm installed, you may use something like :
rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n packagename
$ rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n xinitrc
Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com
I assume the packager info is not available in the rpm packages, so I
won't get more info if I manage to read the output of rpm2header
=--=
kk1
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
The problem with that is, a lot of times it will just
say something like Mandrake Linux Team
mandrakeexpert.com or Mandrake Security Team.
--- Pascal Terjan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Quel Qun wrote:
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query
javascript form on the
Mandrake web?
Use rpmfind, select the first result from Mandrake,
read the page with
rpm headers, then read the maintainer's name...
Or, if you have the rpm installed, you may use
something like :
rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n packagename
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[Cooker] Kernel oops
Hello, when booting last time I got the following: Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbdevfs Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver hub Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: uhci.c: USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v1.1 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xc000, IRQ 10 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB hub found Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: 2 ports detected Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xbc00, IRQ 10 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB hub found Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: 2 ports detected Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: uhci.c: USB UHCI at I/O 0xb800, IRQ 10 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB hub found Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: 2 ports detected Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 1 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 1 deregistered Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 1 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus2/1, assigned device number 2 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x400/0x1000) is not claimed by any active driver. Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbscanner Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: null device being checked!!! Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: scanner.c: 0.4.6:USB Scanner Driver Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus2/2, assigned device number 3 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 3 (vend/prod 0x5e3/0x502) is not claimed by any active driver. Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 3 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 2 deregistered Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB disconnect on device 1 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver usbnet Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: null device being checked!!! Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: hub.c: USB new device connect on bus3/1, assigned device number 2 Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB device 2 (vend/prod 0x471/0x311) is not claimed by any active driver. Mar 16 16:13:25 localhost kernel: Unable to handle kernel paging request at virtual address 1004 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: printing eip: Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: e28ea859 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: *pde = Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Oops: 0002 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: CPU:0 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: EIP: 0010:[ppp_synctty:__insmod_ppp_synctty_O/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drive+-464807/96] Not tainted Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: EIP:0010:[e28ea859]Not tainted Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: EFLAGS: 00010087 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: eax: 1000 ebx: df5304fc ecx: df530788 edx: e28f4178 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: esi: 0003 edi: 0001 ebp: df5304e0 esp: de585fac Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Process khubd (pid: 578, stackpage=de585000) Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Stack: 0202 de585fbe de585fbc 00020100 0282 de584000 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel:e28f418c 0f00 de584000 0060 e28eaac7 de60bf10 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: c0105726 e28eaaa0 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Call Trace: [ppp_synctty:__insmod_ppp_synctty_O/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drive+-425588/96] [ppp_synctty:__insmod_ppp_synctty_O/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drive+-464185/96] [kernel_thread+38/48] [ppp_synctty:__insmod_ppp_synctty_O/lib/modules/2.4.18-6mdk/kernel/drive+-464224/96] Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Call Trace: [e28f418c] [e28eaac7] [c0105726] [e28eaaa0] Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Code: 89 50 04 89 02 89 1b 89 5b 04 8d 73 0c 89 f1 ff 4d 28 0f 88 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: 6usb.c: USB disconnect on device 2 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: usb.c: USB bus 3 deregistered Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: Linux video capture interface: v1.00 Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: pwc Philips PCA645/646 + PCVC675/680/690 + PCVC730/740/750 webcam module version 8.5 loaded. Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: pwc Also supports the Askey VC010, Logitech Quickcam 3000 Pro, Samsung MPC-C10 and MPC-C30, the Creative WebCam 5 and the SOTEC CMS-001. Mar 16 16:13:26 localhost kernel: usb.c: registered new driver Philips webcam I noticed that it also happened
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Re wildly moving target and we are in deep freeze, cooker received 1025 new or changed RPMs in the last 24 hours. AFAIK re-signing packages doesn't imply re-testing. AFAIK there has been 17 new packages in the last 24 hours, with mainly small changes. In fact, there are quite many uploads because each very small change is uploaded ASAP. Mandrake 8.2 is plainly still in Alpha test and they are improperly co-opting us outside users to assist that process, which should be an internal function. I am looking forward to when Alpha has been completed and Beta and then Gamma testing can commence, but regretfully (and foolishly) that has not happened for any Mandrake release so far. It won't happen. If you want this kind of slow release, go to Debian. No offense to Debian of course, our time to release/market are quite different (FYI, I have a chroot 'unstable' debian on my box)
[Cooker] Re: rpmmon (what javascript?)
On Saturday 16 March 2002 19:05, Quel Qun wrote:
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 02:29, Pixel wrote:
the maintainer is:
% rpmmon -p xinitrc
flepied
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the Mandrake
web?
What javascript?
rpmmon.html:
body bgcolor=#fff
h1Who maintains that RPM?/h1
form method=post action=page2.phtml
pRPM: input name=rpm type=text input type=submit/p
/form
/body
page2.phtml:
body bgcolor=#ff
?php
$rpm = ereg_replace ([^-A-Za-z0-9_+.]+, , $rpm);
if ($rpm == ) {
echo h1 . $rpm . is maintained by .
system (rpmmon.pl -m /var/cooker/ -p . $rpm) . /h1\n;
} else {
echo h1RPM name invalid or missing/h1\n;
} ?form method=post action=page2.phtml
pRPM: input name=rpm type=text input type=submit/p
/form
/body
Untested.
Change /var/cooker/ to your RPM collection, this will either need to run in
PHP-not-safe mode or have a link to rpmmon in a `safe' location. If you're
brave, you could try adapting rpmmon to run under mod_perl instead. (-:
Cheers; Leon
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
Quel Qun wrote:
$ rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n xinitrc
Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com
I assume the packager info is not available in the rpm packages, so I
won't get more info if I manage to read the output of rpm2header
Argh
Last time I looked for a maintainer this was more explicit :(
[Cooker] Samba after update
It seems in 8.2 final samba does not start by default after an update ! Just warning. -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Samba after update
Le Samedi 16 Mars 2002 16:56, vous avez écrit : It seems in 8.2 final samba does not start by default after an update ! Just warning. Samba is launch only at runlevel 4 after update DHCPD as the same problem ! -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] Samba after update
That problem has existed in all samba packages since Mandrake 7.2 On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 10:16, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Le Samedi 16 Mars 2002 16:56, vous avez écrit : It seems in 8.2 final samba does not start by default after an update ! Just warning. Samba is launch only at runlevel 4 after update DHCPD as the same problem ! -- TTFN, Lonnie Borntreger
[Cooker] avifile-0.6.0-0.20011223.2mdk.src.rpm
Hi list, could point me somebody to a location where one can download avifile-0.6.0-0.20011223.2mdk.src.rpm? I could not find it on my cooker-mirror (ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/). Regards, Uwe
Re: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:55:15 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:14, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. Try removing your ~/.gnome/session, bg-applet is probably not called by initiating gnome session, therefore not setting background.. Ok, I tried a few things here: I added rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session* as the first line of .xinitrc. For the sake of completness, this is followed by: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_R Multi_key' startgnome As long as I log out of gnome after closing everything, the bg is reloaded when I run startx again. However, if I logout of gnome leaving an app running, the app is not restarted and the bg is gone. There used to be a decent session management with gnome+gmc... You didn't undertood what I said to you : You just need to remove your ~/.gnome/session one time (you probably had a bad saved session).. If you want to save session, just go to Configuration/Gnome/Save current session and that should do the trick.. -- Frédéric Crozat MandrakeSoft
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 16:09:28 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit :
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:33, Pascal Terjan wrote:
Quel Qun wrote:
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the
Mandrake web?
Use rpmfind, select the first result from Mandrake, read the page with
rpm headers, then read the maintainer's name... Or, if you have the rpm
installed, you may use something like : rpm -q --queryformat
%{packager}\n packagename
$ rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n xinitrc Mandrake Linux Team
http://www.mandrakeexpert.com
I assume the packager info is not available in the rpm packages, so I
won't get more info if I manage to read the output of rpm2header
There is a difference between packager and maintainer :
-Maintainer is the guy who is in charge of day to day package
maintainance (bug fix, new version, ...)
-Packager is the last guy who built the package. If I rebuild package I
don't maintain (sometimes, it is needed because the maintainer is too
busy or we need to fix a lot of package at the same time), my name will
be put in the packager tag and some people might think I'm the maintainer
of the package (it happened with Mdk 8.0 for me with Samba because I
fixed menu entry for swat !!).
It wouldn't be a problem if people (very often, newbies) weren't sending
mail for tech support directly to packagers (or maintainers..)
That is why I'm (and a lot of people at MandrakeSoft) using the
MandrakeExpert tag = to redirect users to mandrakeexpert.com for tech
support. This is really needed for released version of the distro)
For cooker, the best thing is often to post on cooker mailing list.
Info is not restricted between Mdksoft guy and the guy sending
mail and it might help other people (or other people might be able to
respond to initial mail..)
Since cooker traffic is quite high, some mails might not be read by the
right MdkSoft guy (I confess, I usually don't read long OT threads or
install related threads..)..
To reduce this problem, I think people should try to split their mails by
package/topic (if in an install report, there is stuff about GNOME not starting,
chance are high it might be missed) and to put really good topics for
their messages.
Here is an example (inspired from a bug I received this week .. At first,
I thought it was already fixed but it was indeed a real bug ;)
bad topic : icons are not active on my desktop
good topic : [GNOME] desktop icons not working
or for gnome power users : [Nautilus] desktop icons not working
A good rule of thumb would be to put package name at the beginning of
topic..
--
Frédéric Crozat
MandrakeSoft
Re: [Cooker] xdm - claimed to hold bug. Very big bug ;-(
There is a big problem with latest kdm: It looking for Xaccess and other xdm files in /usr/share/config/kdm and not in /etc/X11/xdm. it don't found the and do not start X at boot time. For correct de problem I have move kdmrc in /etc/X11/xdm and make a symlink of /usr/share/config/kdm to /etc/X11/xdm. This work fine but I don't if know if it is the betters solution. I know it is later to correct the problem in 8.2 final, put it as errata quickly ! Le Samedi 16 Mars 2002 04:15, vous avez écrit : On Saturday 16 March 2002 3:51 am, Olivier Thauvin wrote: Just little question, is xdm running ? If you do not launch X at boot you must run 'xdm --daemon'. I had to leave my Cooker with 2.4.18.6, it contained to many old bugs, it was probably caused by a bad mirror, so I could not check. But I went into /usr/share/config/kdm/kdmrc and did read the readme file. It clearly stated that it was generated in some auto, and was based on the files in xdm and thus on Xaccess. So I conclude that you are probably wrong in your analysis. regard guran -- Linux pour Mac !? Enfin le moyen de transformer une pomme en véritable ordinateur. - JL. Olivier Thauvin - http://nanardon.homelinux.org/
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
Pixel wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: David Walser wrote: --- Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just to be safe, submit it to mandrakeuser.org as eratta and start the thread _before_ the official release. 8) I've reported this two or three times. Nobody even told me who the xinitrc maintainer was. You can check it up in == Software Manager == Installed == Flat List == xinitrc == changelog == [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2.4.4-60mdk this is the last changelog, not the maintainer. the maintainer is: % rpmmon -p xinitrc flepied Pixel: Thanks for the flash of light :) Irek
Re: [Cooker] avifile-0.6.0-0.20011223.2mdk.src.rpm
Uwe Reimann wrote: Hi list, could point me somebody to a location where one can download avifile-0.6.0-0.20011223.2mdk.src.rpm? I could not find it on my cooker-mirror (ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandrake-devel/cooker/SRPMS/). Regards, Uwe You can have .2mdk.i586.rpm of it from: ftp://ftp-stud.fht-esslingen.de/pub/Mirrors/Mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS2/ rek
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, the 2 previous test install I did tcl was installed, but what was the exact context of your failure? I downloaded and burnt the first two CD's of RC1, and then attempted to do a pretty much default install (minus Gnome, plus a few games and development packages). During the install the following packages failed: termcap tcsh gurpmi ncftp Each time it said the package couldn't be installed, would I like to continue? To which I answered yes. This caused it to install packages (such as TuxRacer) that depended on packages that weren't installed. I guess either my CD's or the CD images were corrupt, because I couldn't install those packages even after install, but they did go in fine after I d/led them from cooker. did you check your iso md5sums -- Warly
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
Hello, the 2 previous test install I did tcl was installed, but what was the exact context of your failure? I downloaded and burnt the first two CD's of RC1, and then attempted to do a pretty much default install (minus Gnome, plus a few games and development packages). During the install the following packages failed: termcap tcsh gurpmi ncftp Each time it said the package couldn't be installed, would I like to continue? To which I answered yes. This caused it to install packages (such as TuxRacer) that depended on packages that weren't installed. I guess either my CD's or the CD images were corrupt, because I couldn't install those packages even after install, but they did go in fine after I d/led them from cooker. Thanks, Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
On Saturdayen den 16 March 2002 16.09, Quel Qun wrote:
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:33, Pascal Terjan wrote:
Quel Qun wrote:
Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the
Mandrake web?
Use rpmfind, select the first result from Mandrake, read the page with
rpm headers, then read the maintainer's name...
Or, if you have the rpm installed, you may use something like :
rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n packagename
$ rpm -q --queryformat %{packager}\n xinitrc
Mandrake Linux Team http://www.mandrakeexpert.com
I assume the packager info is not available in the rpm packages, so I
won't get more info if I manage to read the output of rpm2header
this isn't very accurate because the listed packager isn't allways the
maintainer...
I guess this is better:
rpm -qp --changelog package.rpm | grep \@mandrake | tail -1
?
--
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] Samba after update
On Saturdayen den 16 March 2002 17.24, Lonnie Borntreger wrote:
That problem has existed in all samba packages since Mandrake 7.2
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 10:16, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
Le Samedi 16 Mars 2002 16:56, vous avez écrit :
It seems in 8.2 final samba does not start by default after an update
!
Just warning.
Samba is launch only at runlevel 4 after update
DHCPD as the same problem !
someone needs to hack the rpm macro, or add perhaps add chkconfig %{name}
on in %post
?
--
Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
On Saturdayen den 16 March 2002 19.23, Warly wrote: Timothy R. Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hello, the 2 previous test install I did tcl was installed, but what was the exact context of your failure? I downloaded and burnt the first two CD's of RC1, and then attempted to do a pretty much default install (minus Gnome, plus a few games and development packages). During the install the following packages failed: termcap tcsh gurpmi ncftp Each time it said the package couldn't be installed, would I like to continue? To which I answered yes. This caused it to install packages (such as TuxRacer) that depended on packages that weren't installed. I guess either my CD's or the CD images were corrupt, because I couldn't install those packages even after install, but they did go in fine after I d/led them from cooker. did you check your iso md5sums I suspect he forgot the gendistro stuff... -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April
Hi People who want to upgrade any of the package since they will release updat I think it stupid to say a distribution will be better that another one on the bassis that it wait until kde3 will be out. since kde3 is new it will have a lot of problems that will be fixed on later release and when it will rock it will be included on the next version 9.0 around september I think. I realy hope that Mandrake will live the current crisis it is really the best distribution never seen;-) I wanna to subscribe to the club but doesn't now how to paid since my card will only work on Israel ... Meir Faraj - Original Message - From: Liam R. E. Quin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:37 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April On Thu, 2002-03-14 at 00:50, Luc Roseberry wrote: So, will I buy SuSE? Maybe just to have a look at KDE3. Would I buy Mandrake 8.2 with a choice of KDE3 and KDE2.2 (one or the other at install time but not both)? YES (even with KDE3rc2)! I think it is the same with gnome 2, and with mozilla 0,99 -- there will always be things released just as the gold master CDs are being sent for duplication. After installing Mandrake cooker last night from an ftp mirror, I can say I think it's set for great reviews. As for installing after the fact - Software Manager generally makes this easy, if you have enough bandwidth. Let's not be to down on people who have put a lot of work into making a really good Linux distribution just because a new version of some package is released at the last minute, too late for inclusion. Liam --
Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April
it is a very good idea... but doesn't think it is an option when you are in very near release state - Original Message - From: Dave Seff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 10:51 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker] KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April Agreed, but when someone tries to install it - it doesn't play well with KDE 2. It would be nice if they co-existed well enough that a user can easily switch between them (albeit that KDE3 is not in the most stable form) Perhaps maybe an option during install . . Imagime a Do you want KDE 2 or 3 but have a disclaimer to Use at your own risk! We will not support it yet for those who choose to want 3. -Dave
Re: [Cooker] open gl slow with ati rage 128 on 8.2rc1
Le Vendredi 15 Mars 2002 19:18, vous avez écrit : Hello, this is my first post on this list. I just install the 8.2rc1 and I found that I have a problem with opengl not present in 8.2beta3 (don't have time to test in beta4). the first 5 seconds I got 680 fps with gears (this is a normal rate) and the next 5 second also, and mayby after 7 to 10 5 seconds (fps was report at each 5 second) the fps begin to decrese to 200fps I could trace a quite identical problem with some samples of nVidia TNT2 cards and not on others. Sounds as XFree latest moututes have some problems with characteristics dispersions among cards. -- Jean-Claude Webmaster Le Loft - Cyber Espace Linux Moulins http://www.leloft-online.com
Re: [Cooker] 8.2
Hi Warly, did you check your iso md5sums Why would I do a silly thing like that? I mean, if I had, I would have realized there was a problem with my isos before I burnt and installed them. That would have been waaay to easy. ;-) Seriously, sorry about that false alarm. Both of my CD's failed being run through a copy of md5sum, so I guess I had just a bit of a problem. Best, Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
[Cooker] Preorder Specials?
Will MDK be offering any kind of preorder deals like last time around? I seem to remember there were some offers like you could order just the ProSuite DVD, and get an official copy of the 3-cd download set until the ProSuite came out, and stuff like that... Thanks, Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
[Cooker] [OT ?] keeping device names constant for removeable drives
I'm not sure if this is the best place to post this but, I think it is a usability issue. I now have 3 external removable storage devices, 1 acomdata 80 gig firewire drive (dev1), 1 firewire enclosure with a 30gig drive in it (dev2), and 1 usb smartmedia card reader (dev3). I have all 3 working fine with the latest cooker + some firewire cvs drivers (so the acomdata drive gets recognized). Problem: when ever I plug a device in it become sda, and then add more they becoe sdb,c.. say I have all 3 devices plugged in, then I have sda, sdb, and sdc. problem is dev3 is fat (smartmedia card) dev1 has ext3 and fat32 partitions on it and dev2 has just one ext3 partition on it. how do I set up fstab and I guess devfs so that no mater how many devices I have plugged in, and no matter what order they were plugged in, all I have to do is type: mount /mnt/smartmedia - dev3 mounts mount /mnt/fire1 - dev1 part1 mounts mount /mnt/fire2 - dev1 part2 mounts mount /mnt/fire3 - dev2 part1 mounts
[Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Update breaks my gcc links
When I updated my system from 8.1 - 8.2 gcc didn't work anymore. I found out that the reason was in symbolic links which were not updated. /usr/bin/gcc - /etc/alternatives/gcc /etc/alternatives/gcc - /usr/bin/colorgcc-3.0.1 (same goes for g++ and gcj) The right ones would be -3.0.4.. Regards, Matias
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Update breaks my gcc links
Matias Griese [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: When I updated my system from 8.1 - 8.2 gcc didn't work anymore. I found out that the reason was in symbolic links which were not updated. /usr/bin/gcc - /etc/alternatives/gcc /etc/alternatives/gcc - /usr/bin/colorgcc-3.0.1 (same goes for g++ and gcj) The right ones would be -3.0.4.. run as root update-alternatives --auto gcc and should work -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Update breaks my gcc links
On Saturdayen den 16 March 2002 23.01, Matias Griese wrote: When I updated my system from 8.1 - 8.2 gcc didn't work anymore. I found out that the reason was in symbolic links which were not updated. /usr/bin/gcc - /etc/alternatives/gcc /etc/alternatives/gcc - /usr/bin/colorgcc-3.0.1 (same goes for g++ and gcj) The right ones would be -3.0.4.. Hmm..., how is this handled anyway? What do I do to switch back and forth between installed versions? -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
[Cooker] Kino segfaults
I installed kino and all of its deps. from cooker. When I run kino it immediately segfaults. I did some poking around and found it craps out in libdv, particularly dv.c at line 136. #if ARCH_X86 dv_use_mmx = mmx_ok(); #endif I have an Athlon K7266 I also have the nopentium option in lilo. Any ideas? -Dave
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Update breaks my gcc links
Oden Eriksson wrote: Hmm..., how is this handled anyway? What do I do to switch back and forth between installed versions? # update-alternatives --config gcc
[Cooker] How come drakxtools ...
Question: How come drakxtools requires a new version (src rpm) almost daily? BillK
Re: [Cooker] How come drakxtools ...
Bill Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question: How come drakxtools requires a new version (src rpm) almost daily? don't worry, it will calm down very soon. It is already pretty calm.
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Update breaks my gcc links
On Sundayen den 17 March 2002 00.25, Rolf Pedersen wrote: Oden Eriksson wrote: Hmm..., how is this handled anyway? What do I do to switch back and forth between installed versions? # update-alternatives --config gcc Ahh! Nice!!! Thanks a bunch! -- Regards // Oden Eriksson
Re: [Cooker] Kino segfaults
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 18:25, Dave Seff wrote: I installed kino and all of its deps. from cooker. When I run kino it immediately segfaults. I did some poking around and found it craps out in libdv, particularly dv.c at line 136. #if ARCH_X86 dv_use_mmx = mmx_ok(); #endif I have an Athlon K7266 I also have the nopentium option in lilo. Any ideas? -Dave I was messing with kino a while ago and can't remember the specifics, but if you look at the forum on kino, I believe this is a bug in libdv.. http://www.schirmacher.de/dcforum/DCForumID1/49.html I think I changed this and recompiled libdv, and things seemed to work.
[Cooker] problems with NVidia drivers in 8.2?
Has anyone noticed a problem with NVidia's drivers in 8.2? They compile and install fine on my system, but X refuses to start, says there is no such driver I also have gotten a warning about them tainting the kernel, not being GPL, when inserting the module manually.
Re: [Cooker] Kino segfaults
Dave Seff wrote: I installed kino and all of its deps. from cooker. When I run kino it immediately segfaults. I did some poking around and found it craps out in libdv, particularly dv.c at line 136. #if ARCH_X86 dv_use_mmx = mmx_ok(); #endif I have an Athlon K7266 I also have the nopentium option in lilo. Any ideas? -Dave Dave, I followed the intructions on http://www.schirmacher.de/arne/kino/kino_hwsw_e.html I did compile and install libdv-0.9.tar.gz (with fix, see below) Note: The libdv library has a bug in their mmx detection routine. To fix this, please download the libdv source code and change line 136 of dv.c from: dv_use_mmx = mmx_ok(); to dv_use_mmx = 1;. libraw1394_0.9.0.tar.gz libavc1394-0.3.1.tar.gz Now kino works here. Cheers, Dirk
Re: [Cooker] How come drakxtools ...
I'm just gonna be tickled pink when kdebase doesn't need to be updated daily. I'm getting tired of that 80MB download (or 30MB) On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 18:47, Pixel wrote: Bill Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Question: How come drakxtools requires a new version (src rpm) almost daily? don't worry, it will calm down very soon. It is already pretty calm.
[Cooker] bug : broken link in libpcre
There is a broken link in the last libpcre /usr/lib/libpcre.so should link to /usr/lib/lipcre.so.0.0.1 but this file is missing. One can find it at /lib/libpcre.so.0.0.1 cheers xh
Re: [Cooker] problems with NVidia drivers in 8.2?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Saturday 16 March 2002 19:04, you wrote: Has anyone noticed a problem with NVidia's drivers in 8.2? They compile and install fine on my system, but X refuses to start, says there is no such driver I also have gotten a warning about them tainting the kernel, not being GPL, when inserting the module manually. Make sure you add the line load glx under the modules section of your XF86Config-4 or it won't work properly. The warnings you get about tainting the kernel and the driver not being GPL are just informational. By tainting the kernel they mean you're not using 100% free software. - -- Greg A. Bur Secretary/Treasurer BlazeConnect Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.blazeconnect.net Voice: (231)597-0376 Fax:(231)597-0393 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8k+A2g65w4uPk48oRAo/HAJ9jg6/KOMSYzjll0DGA3Byfj9nRtQCglvN8 mxJuQsp7ObUSbg9tWfN3gkg= =QMHV -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [Cooker] bluebird name
On Saturday 16 March 2002 06:55 am, you wrote: Hum, Gael has the idea, but I think it is more related to the rocket-car that speed up to 680 mph near salt lake city. U errr... the car that went 622+ mph at Bonneville was the Blue Flame. There is a history of speed record cars named Bluebird, run by the Campbell family. The latest I know of is Bluebird Electric. which did close to 130mph. I think there was a Bluebird rocket car at Bonneville in the '60s., also.
[Cooker] Can't open /dev/mixer
I am running beta 4 with the security setting right below paranoid. Whenever Gnome tries to use sound, a dialog pops up saying it can't open /dev/mixer. Is /dev/mixer supposed to be a symlink to something? I guess devfs is creating it because it does exist, user kevin, group audio... but it ain't right. Krum
[Cooker] [Contrib-RPM] jasper uploaded
The following signed package is uploaded to /incoming. = Name: jasper Relocations: (not relocateable) Version : 1.500.4 Vendor: MandrakeSoft Release : 1mdk Build Date: Sun Mar 17 08:22:02 2002 Install date: (not installed) Build Host: mobile.maddog.lan Group : System/Libraries Source RPM: (none) Size: 645482 License: BSD-like Packager: Abel Cheung [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL : http://www.ece.ubc.ca/~mdadams/jasper/ Summary : A library that can manipulate JPEG 2000 format images Description : JasPer is a software-based implementation of the codec specified in the emerging JPEG-2000 Part-1 standard (i.e., ISO/IEC 15444-1). The JasPer software is written in the C programming language. This software has also been submitted to the ISO for inclusion in the JPEG-2000 Part-5 standard (as an official reference implementation). = I've put a copy of source RPM in http://deaddog.org/files/Mandrake/contrib/SRPMS/ as well. Abel
[Cooker] lm_sensors problems with i810 and sis5595
I have problems with detecting my i810 and sis5595 hardware sensors (on two machines). sensors-detect tells me that it should be an i2c-i801 bus while it is really a 810 bus, and it should rather be the i2c-i810 module that it should load. If I try to load the module i2c-i810 it barfs with the messages: /lib/modules/2.4.18-4mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i810.o.gz: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-4mdk/kernel/drivers/i2c/i2c-i810.o.gz failed /lib/modules/2.4.18-4mdk/misc/i2c-i810.o: init_module: No such device Hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters modprobe: insmod /lib/modules/2.4.18-4mdk/misc/i2c-i810.o failed modprobe: insmod i2c-i810 failed On my machine with a K7S5A motherboard sensors-detect does not find anything. Keld
[Cooker] urpmi and webfetch
Why does urpmi require webfetch? Webfetch is not even available as an rpm in the primary Cooker mirror. And it has no listing whatesoever on rpmfind.net? If this dependancy it wrong, can we have it removed, or if webfetch is in fact required, can we add it to the cooker? Thanks, David p.s. Please send replies to e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks
Re: [Cooker] urpmi and webfetch
I'm pretty sure that it's looking for webfetch, however what it REALLY wants is wget. The dependancy isn't wrong, so much as misleading. NB On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 20:02, David Grant wrote: Why does urpmi require webfetch? Webfetch is not even available as an rpm in the primary Cooker mirror. And it has no listing whatesoever on rpmfind.net? If this dependancy it wrong, can we have it removed, or if webfetch is in fact required, can we add it to the cooker? Thanks, David p.s. Please send replies to e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks
re : Re: [Cooker] Re: about X freeze on linux mandrake 8.2
yes but even when v4l module isn't loaded [cause XFdrake don't put it on my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ] the X freeze still happen :-( So for me there is no choice if i want to use XFree4.2.0 [seems than XFree4.1 works just fine for me ]. hope than i'm the only one in this case . Thx . [root@localhost /]# lspcidrake -v |grep Card Card:ATI Rage 128: ATI|Rage 128 GL AGP 1x/2x [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1002 device:5246 subv:1002 subd:0008) [root@localhost /]# rpm -qa|grep XFree86-4 XFree86-4.2.0-10mdk [root@localhost /]#
[Cooker] Odd, but good
ImageMagick now compiles without a hitch now... (all files found). I assume it's because of the last change - removed rpath in perl Magick.so library., yet I seem to recall this being an old ChangeLog entry? Oh well, it's a working now : ) Secondly, hdf5 now compiles (compile time error previously). What's odd about this is that there's been no update to the hdf5 spec (patches, sources, etc..) AFAIK. The only thing I can conclude is that I went down for a reboot this morning. Please say this isn't what fixed the build : P Also! armagetron now compiles (compile time error previously as well), and once again no update to the source or spec AFAIK. The only thing I can conclude is that I went down for a reboot this morning. Please say this isn't what fixed the build : P So, that leaves two packages on my list that won't compile: locales -- core dumps locally, I'm sure you've seen the posts, and this would be a glibc problem; and perl-DB_File -- fails test 86. That's all for now : ) Tashi Delek -- Bryan Paxton Public PGP key: http://www.deadhorse.net/bpaxton.gpg Trying, the volition devoid of action, this is idleness. Doing, the volition replete in motion, a process. Being that all things are impermanent, this process is constant. If one realizes such, the process is in all actuality, one step. A motion that can not be reversed, but may be halted. Both ways does this sway.
Re: [Cooker] policy, begging and mdk club (WAS: KDE3 in SuSe8.0 as off 22 April)
On Thursday 14 March 2002 11:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do not think this topic belongs on this list, but since you keep all going on about it, here is my 2 cents. I agree completly with mdks policy not to put KDE3.0 in main distro. BUT I fail to understand why packages like KDE3 and moz 0.9.9 are not build for members of the mandrake club. Maybe, time? Don't forget we already said that KDE 3 packages will be available for 8.0, 8.1, 8.2 and Cooker. Please just wait for a final release. This would convice many people to join the club. As you can read in the press, some people think mandrake begs for money because the club gives not enough extra's. I think I agree about the not enough extra's part. Texstars webpage offers much more to many people than mdk club and it is free. /.../ Texstar's Web page offers KDE 2 packages builded with objprelink. This is not a good idea at all if you want stability. Most of packages available on Texstar's Web page are already in Cooker or Contribs. Some packages available on Texstar's Web page are propriaritary software and require an agreement of their owners to be offered on such Web page. -- David BAUDENS MandrakeSoft - http://www.mandrakesoft.com
Re: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 08:37, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:55:15 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:14, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. Try removing your ~/.gnome/session, bg-applet is probably not called by initiating gnome session, therefore not setting background.. Ok, I tried a few things here: I added rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session* as the first line of .xinitrc. For the sake of completness, this is followed by: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_R Multi_key' startgnome As long as I log out of gnome after closing everything, the bg is reloaded when I run startx again. However, if I logout of gnome leaving an app running, the app is not restarted and the bg is gone. There used to be a decent session management with gnome+gmc... You didn't undertood what I said to you : You just need to remove your ~/.gnome/session one time (you probably had a bad saved session).. If you want to save session, just go to Configuration/Gnome/Save current session and that should do the trick.. I am sorry, but I think you don't understand what I have been saying for months. The session file may not even be the cause of the problem at all. Removed the first line of .xinitrc and just tried it again. rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session startx The bg is loaded. Menu Configuration/Gnome/Save current session. Wait few seconds. Logout with the menu function. Back to console, startx, the bg is gone. An error message in console says: capplet-common-CRITICAL **: Cannot open configuration database archive:user-archive#archiverdb:background-properties If I fire up a terminal and run background-properties-capplet --apply, the bg is applied with no error message. After a Google search with the error message, I found this thread on Ximian: http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/users/2001-December/000967.html I changed the owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix back to root:root (it was indeed changed to user:user), but it does not change the problem. Most of the time, the bg is not loaded. $ ll -A /tmp | grep ICE drwxrwxrwt2 root root0 Mar 16 18:16 .ICE-unix/ $ rpm -q gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-1.5.11-10mdk =--= kk1
Re: re : Re: [Cooker] Re: about X freeze on linux mandrake 8.2
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 20:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yes but even when v4l module isn't loaded [cause XFdrake don't put it on my /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ] the X freeze still happen :-( So for me there is no choice if i want to use XFree4.2.0 [seems than XFree4.1 works just fine for me ]. hope than i'm the only one in this case . Thx . [root@localhost /]# lspcidrake -v |grep Card Card:ATI Rage 128: ATI|Rage 128 GL AGP 1x/2x [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1002 device:5246 subv:1002 subd:0008) [root@localhost /]# rpm -qa|grep XFree86-4 XFree86-4.2.0-10mdk [root@localhost /]# You're not the only one. # Card:ATI Mach64 : ATI|3D Rage Pro AGP 1X/2X [DISPLAY_VGA] (vendor:1002 device:4742 subv:1002 subd:0084) I replaced 3 -10mdk with older -5mdk packages and it works fine.All others, some before and all others after -5mdk update don't work. Except XFree86-3 without 3D. All the others freeze and have to do a cold reboot. *** XFree86-4.2.0-5mdk *** XFree86-server-4.2.0-5mdk *** X11R6-contrib-4.2.0-5mdk # rpm -qa|grep XFree86- XFree86-75dpi-fonts-4.2.0-10mdk XFree86-libs-4.2.0-10mdk XFree86-server-common-3.3.6-26mdk XFree86-100dpi-fonts-4.2.0-10mdk XFree86-server-4.2.0-5mdk XFree86-static-libs-4.2.0-10mdk XFree86-Mach64-3.3.6-26mdk XFree86-devel-4.2.0-10mdk XFree86-4.2.0-5mdk XFree86-compat-libs-4.1.0-2mdk XFree86-xfs-4.2.0-10mdk -- J. Schaap Registered Linux user #89018 http://counter.li.org
Re: [Cooker] problems with NVidia drivers in 8.2?
wyrmzr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone noticed a problem with NVidia's drivers in 8.2? They compile and install fine on my system, but X refuses to start, says there is no such driver I also have gotten a warning about them tainting the kernel, not being GPL, when inserting the module manually. in /etc/modules put the following line: NVdriver and everything will work fine. -- Murray J. Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (404) 978-1262 x2646 - voicemail/fax __ Voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Ron Stodden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Re wildly moving target and we are in deep freeze, cooker received 1025 new or changed RPMs in the last 24 hours. Re-signing packages does not require re-testing. As for why Mandrake doesn't take you seriously, read the following as if it were directed at you - such offensiveness can only come from a child regardless of the time you spent carefully picking insults: Mandrake 8.2 is plainly still in Alpha test and they are improperly co-opting us outside users to assist that process, which should be an internal function. I am looking forward to when Alpha has been completed and Beta and then Gamma testing can commence, but regretfully (and foolishly) that has not happened for any Mandrake release so far. -- Murray J. Root [EMAIL PROTECTED] - email (404) 978-1262 x2646 - voicemail/fax __ Voicemail, email, and fax...all in one place. Sign Up Now! http://www.onebox.com
Re: [Cooker] 8.2 Bug: Installation of packet failed - crash
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 08:36:34PM +0200, Matias Griese wrote: Mandrake 8.2 (last minute test) nfs install, Finnish language, expert, update packages only Installation of ppp failed. When I pressed enter the installation crashed instantly (with signal 7). Second try: Installation of OpenOffice failed. When I tried to press Ctrl+Alt+.. the installation crashed before I touched the second key (signal 7). Third try: Installation of OpenOffice failed. Contrib was missing. :) But now everything went just fine. and don't reply to existing messages to start a new thread. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 03:05:52AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the Mandrake web? I could put a smart bookmark on Galeon, that'd be sweet. http://ben.reser.org/mandrake/rpmmon/ It only updates the maintainers file from mandrake once an hour so it's possible it could be slightly out of date. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: [Cooker] 2GB Limit - Ext2?
On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 12:10:30AM -0800, Eugenio Diaz wrote: Use ssh. You can use scp (secure copy) or sftp (secure ftp, just a nicer interface to scp). In your case, this is what you need to do: FYI sftp is an entirely different protocol than scp. For a long time only the commercial ssh application supported sftp. -- Ben Reser [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://ben.reser.org What difference does it make to the dead, the orphans, and the homeless, whether the mad destruction is wrought under the name of totalitarianism or the holy name of liberty and democracy? - Ghandi
Re: rpmmon (was Re: [Cooker] 8.2)
On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 13:21, Ben Reser wrote: On Sat, Mar 16, 2002 at 03:05:52AM -0800, Quel Qun wrote: Could someone make a simple rpmmon query javascript form on the Mandrake web? I could put a smart bookmark on Galeon, that'd be sweet. http://ben.reser.org/mandrake/rpmmon/ It only updates the maintainers file from mandrake once an hour so it's possible it could be slightly out of date. Yes, It works perfectly. In Galeon, just type Ctrl+B and add a bookmark in the Smart Bookmarks Toolbar: Name: Rpmmon URL: http://ben.reser.org/mandrake/rpmmon/rpmmon.cgi?package=%s Just fill a package name in the rpmmon toolbar form and it brings the answer. No need to have a local mirror. Cool! Thanks a lot. I think it would be nice to have something like that with a Mandrake url. =--= kk1
Re: [Cooker] Defect Handling Defects [Was: Re: [Cooker] Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020313 3:06 - SHOW STOPPER!]
Hi, Re wildly moving target and we are in deep freeze, cooker received 1025 new or changed RPMs in the last 24 hours. Mandrake 8.2 is plainly still in Alpha test and they are improperly co-opting us outside users to assist that process, which should be an internal function. I am Hmm... if it's an Alpha/unstable release, then it is only an Alpha/unstable release in the sense that Debian unstable is unstable (i.e. it isn't). I've been running Mandrake 8.2 RC1 on my laptop for a week now, and I must say I haven't had a single problem beyond a few segfaults in the control panel's FontDrake. If this is your idea of an alpha-quality program, go give Windows a try. Trust me, I've run alpha quality operating systems before, and this ain't one of them. -Tim -- Timothy R. Butler[EMAIL PROTECTED] Universal Networks http://www.uninet.info Christian Portal and Search Tool: http://www.faithtree.com Open Source Migration Guide: http://www.ofb.biz = Christian Web Services Since 1996 ==
Re: [Cooker] urpmi and webfetch
tLe dim 17/03/2002 à 02:02, David Grant a écrit : Why does urpmi require webfetch? Webfetch is not even available as an rpm in the primary Cooker mirror. And it has no listing whatesoever on rpmfind.net? If this dependancy it wrong, can we have it removed, or if webfetch is in fact required, can we add it to the cooker? look : [root@bastard tmp]# urpmf --provides webfetch wget:provides:webfetch curl:provides:webfetch next time you'd better have a better usage of urpmitools -- http://linux-wizard.tuxfamily.org/index.html - A diplomat is man who always remembers a woman's birthday but never her age. -- Robert Frost
RE: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc
You're both right! So there! I have the same problem. It is fixed by deleting ~/.gnome/session. So try just doing that, Quel. But the session save/restore is apparently buggered. Any time I check Save session when shutting down Gnome, odds are there's not going to be a background next time I start it. I could just rm .gnome/session every time, but that kind of defeats the purpose of having a session save/restore, no? Krum -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Quel Qun Sent: Saturday, March 16, 2002 9:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] no bckgrnd w/ gnome+gmc On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 08:37, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 15:55:15 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : On Sat, 2002-03-16 at 06:14, Frédéric Crozat wrote: Le Sat, 16 Mar 2002 11:52:06 +0100, Quel Qun a écrit : Hi, The desktop background is still not loaded automatically after startx using gnome and gmc. There is surely a way to specify the bg in a config file, but I cannot figure it out. Try removing your ~/.gnome/session, bg-applet is probably not called by initiating gnome session, therefore not setting background.. Ok, I tried a few things here: I added rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session* as the first line of .xinitrc. For the sake of completness, this is followed by: xmodmap -e 'keycode 116 = Super_R Multi_key' startgnome As long as I log out of gnome after closing everything, the bg is reloaded when I run startx again. However, if I logout of gnome leaving an app running, the app is not restarted and the bg is gone. There used to be a decent session management with gnome+gmc... You didn't undertood what I said to you : You just need to remove your ~/.gnome/session one time (you probably had a bad saved session).. If you want to save session, just go to Configuration/Gnome/Save current session and that should do the trick.. I am sorry, but I think you don't understand what I have been saying for months. The session file may not even be the cause of the problem at all. Removed the first line of .xinitrc and just tried it again. rm -f $HOME/.gnome/session startx The bg is loaded. Menu Configuration/Gnome/Save current session. Wait few seconds. Logout with the menu function. Back to console, startx, the bg is gone. An error message in console says: capplet-common-CRITICAL **: Cannot open configuration database archive:user-archive#archiverdb:background-properties If I fire up a terminal and run background-properties-capplet --apply, the bg is applied with no error message. After a Google search with the error message, I found this thread on Ximian: http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/users/2001-December/000967.html I changed the owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix back to root:root (it was indeed changed to user:user), but it does not change the problem. Most of the time, the bg is not loaded. $ ll -A /tmp | grep ICE drwxrwxrwt2 root root0 Mar 16 18:16 .ICE-unix/ $ rpm -q gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-1.5.11-10mdk =--= kk1
[Cooker] 8.2 bug - junkbuster
When installed, gives message that group nobody does not exist, running as root. -- Hoyt
