Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:23:23 -0700 Brook Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment: > On Saturday 25 October 2003 05:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > > SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you > > guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. > I think i posted a few days back this was most likely the case. lg drives > are garbage. They are maybe good for target practice but that is about > all. Well, Mdk 9.2 hit the bullseye! (uh-oh, ducking and run like hell. ) Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net
Re: [Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 18:21, Leon Brooks wrote: > On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:21, Pascal wrote: > > Le Samedi 25 Octobre 2003 15:39, Leon Brooks a écrit : > >> Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I > >> log in, the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work > >> my way back down to the download, it asks me to log in again. > > >> Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at > >> me in return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here > >> is an example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but > >> was at one stage considered "Malformed": > > >> https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GL > >>X-4496-2 .1.92mdk.i586.rpm > > >> Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about > >> malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was > >> frozen. > > > Yes I have the exactly same problem with kget integrated into > > konqueror when downloading mandrakeclub rpms ! Might be wise to open > > a bug report Leon ! > > Note that the same process works on an adjacent machine using an updated > 9.1. I'm about to do a fresh 9.2 install on a different machine, so > I'll try the same process with that one. If it breaks, I'll make a bug > report, else I'll put it down to an incompletely upgraded installation. > > Cheers; Leon Leon, I took the above url. Put it into firebird. Got the login message clicked on the link, logged in, then put exactly the same url back into the browser again, this time it saved the rpm in question to my hdd. Is it possible you aren't accepting the cookie? James > >
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
On Saturday 25 October 2003 05:03 pm, Greg Meyer wrote: > SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you > guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. I think i posted a few days back this was most likely the case. lg drives are garbage. They are maybe good for target practice but that is about all. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:39 am, Leon Brooks wrote: > Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I log in, > the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work my way back > down to the download, it asks me to log in again. > > Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at me in > return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here is an > example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but was at one > stage considered "Malformed": > > https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GLX-4496-2 >.1.92mdk.i586.rpm > > Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about > malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was frozen. > > Cheers; Leon well more or less the club has always been like this for me. I've complained about it multiple times but get no response. Oh well not that I care that much but for me if I cant get the rpm's some way besides urpmi they are worthless to me. -- -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~- Brook Humphrey Mobile PC Medic, 420 1st, Cheney, WA 99004, 509-235-9107 http://www.webmedic.net, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holiness unto the Lord -~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-~`'~-
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
On Friday 24 October 2003 08:52 am, R N dev wrote: > Can anyone help me? > > Angelo > > = > Building project readlicense_oo > = > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/html > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > - > java -classpath > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/xt.jar:/usr/src/RPM/BUILD/ >oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/parser.jar > -Dcom.jclark.xsl.sax.parser=com.sun.xml.parser.Parser > com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver readme.xrm ../readme.xsl > os1=LINUX gui1=UNX cp1=INTEL com1=GCC lang1=en-US > type=html > file=../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html > FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here > dmake: Error code 1, while making > '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > > ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.88932 > (%build) > Okay. I got same error here about an hour in to the build. -+ validating and stripping schema files mkdir -p ../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/registry/schema/org/openoffice/ java -classpath /home/greg/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/solver/645/unxlngi4.pro/bin/jaxp.jar:/home/greg/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/solver/645/unxlngi4.pro/bin/parser.jar:../../unxlngi4.pro/class/cfgimport.jar -Djavax.xml.parsers.SAXParserFactory=com.sun.xml.parser.SAXParserFactoryImpl org.openoffice.configuration.Inspector org/openoffice/Inet.xcs FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here dmake: Error code 1, while making '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/registry/schema/org/openoffice/Inet.xcs' ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making /home/greg/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/officecfg/registry/schema dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- error: Bad exit status from /home/greg/RPM/tmp/rpm-tmp.3718 (%build) -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Friday, October 24, 2003 07:52 am, R N dev wrote: > >> Can anyone help me? > >> > >> Angelo > >> > >> = > >> Building project readlicense_oo > >> = > >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo > >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/html > >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > >> - > >> java -classpath > >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/xt.jar:/usr/src/RPM/ > >>BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/parser.jar > >> -Dcom.jclark.xsl.sax.parser=com.sun.xml.parser.Parser > >> com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver readme.xrm ../readme.xsl > >> os1=LINUX gui1=UNX cp1=INTEL com1=GCC lang1=en-US > >> type=html > >> file=../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html > >> FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here > >> dmake: Error code 1, while making > >> '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html' > >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > >> > >> ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making > >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > >> dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' > >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > >> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.88932 > >> (%build) > > > > I can't help, but I'd be extremely interested in the solution. I posted > > this problem last month in Mandrake Expert (because I was building for > > 9.1 rather than cooker). The only responses were two off-list emails > > asking if I'd figured it out. > > OK, well, it ovbiously looks like it's dying in some java/gcj/gij section. > Unfortunately this stuff is a mission to work with (trust me, I rebuilt > OO.o-1.0.1 for 8.2), since it depends on the features available in gcj etc > etc and normally needs the latest features. > > Anyway, you will need to give a lot more detail on the system you are > running this on for anyone to have a chance to help you. > > What Mandrake release is it? > Do you have a jre installed? > Do you have gcc-gcj installed? (and which version for those of us who > can't remember what it was on the release you are running) > Which 'java' binary is first in the path? > Aare you compiling with any switches to rpm (ie --with )? > I had similar problems and I noticed I had a broken symlink for libgcj in my alternatives directory, so I did 'update-alternatives --auto libgcj' and OO.o is happily compiling as I type this. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
On Saturday, October 25, 2003 06:28 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> OK, well, it ovbiously looks like it's dying in some java/gcj/gij
> section. Unfortunately this stuff is a mission to work with (trust
> me, I rebuilt OO.o-1.0.1 for 8.2), since it depends on the features
> available in gcj etc etc and normally needs the latest features.
>
> Anyway, you will need to give a lot more detail on the system you are
> running this on for anyone to have a chance to help you.
>
> What Mandrake release is it?
> Do you have a jre installed?
> Do you have gcc-gcj installed? (and which version for those of us who
> can't remember what it was on the release you are running)
> Which 'java' binary is first in the path?
> Aare you compiling with any switches to rpm (ie --with )?
>
> Regards,
> Buchan
Speaking for myself (not the OP):
I'm building on 9.1 (KDE/qt, mozilla, and a few other packages rebuilt
from latest cooker SRPMs but the core system packages like rpm, gcc,
etc. are from original 9.1 CDs plus updates).
Sun's j2sdk-1.4.2-fcs installed (same results if not installed).
No package named gcc-gcj but I do have gcc-java-3.2.2-3mdk,
gcj-tools-3.2.2-3mdk,libgcj3-3.2.2-3mdk, and libgcj3-devel-3.2.2-3mdk
installed.
'which java' yields /usr/bin/java which points to
/usr/bin/gcj-java-3.2.2 through /etc/alternatives.
No switches, but spec file is modified as follows (lines 23-35) to avoid
building il8n packages:
%define languages1 "ENUS"
%define languages2 ""
%define languages3 ""
%define languages "%{languages1},%{languages2},%{languages3}"
%define helplangs1 "ENUS"
%define helplangs2 ""
%define helplangs "%{helplangs1},%{helplangs2}"
1.0x versions of OpenOffice rebuilt with no trouble at all. Something
changed in 1.1.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Arn
[Cooker] Re: LG Drives
Juan Quintela wrote: >> "marc" == Marc Guise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > marc> I read the post about Mdk 9.2 and LG on mandrakeusers.org. I have cd-rw drive, > marc> model HL-DT-ST GCE 8400b and I have Mdk 9.2rc2 running. There are no problems > marc> with my LG drive > > 21mdk just updated (vdanen should be doing the official update) fixes > that problem. Only LG plain CD-ROMS are affected. > > Later, Juan. A friend of mine asked to ask if the 2.6 kernel is affected by this.
Re: [Cooker] LG-proof kernel == -21mdk?
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 09:18, Leon Brooks wrote: > Do the updates include an LG-proof (LG == "Lame Goldstar") kernel > yet? If so, what's an exact release number so I can check that my > local mirror is up to speed? OK, Juan implies -21mdk should be happy, correct me if I'm wrong. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives - please send official statements
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 08:22, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:20 pm, Juan Quintela wrote: >>> Yep, whoeved decided at LG that reusing for UPLOAD_FIRMAWARE >>> command FLUSH_CACHE comand should be shoot. Twice. >> SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope >> you guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public >> opinion. > /. posted a really badly researched post on this (with a bad title > too), but it seems public opinion is that hardware shouldn't be > vulnerable. > It wouldn't hurt though to have an official position sent to /., I > think they should reasonably update the summary to indicate that this > is a hardware issue that would also affect other users, and hopefully > push the availability of updates and how to use them. I'd say send a release to all of the usual suspects (starting with /. LinuxToday LWN and working outwards). Might want to see if LG have anything they want to add. Like "Oops, sorry!" Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 06:01, AAW wrote: > On Friday, October 24, 2003 07:52 am, R N dev wrote: >> Can anyone help me? >> FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here >> dmake: Error code 1, while making >> '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html' >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > I can't help, but I'd be extremely interested in the solution. I > posted this problem last month in Mandrake Expert (because I was > building for 9.1 rather than cooker). The only responses were two > off-list emails asking if I'd figured it out. I cured this by installing "real" Java from Sun. The build then succeeded on a Mandrake 9.0 system (which doesn't touch the Internet, and I wanted some later software on it - OOo 1.1, FireBird and a few other bits - but didn't want to disturb the Win4Lin stuff on it). Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 23:21, Pascal wrote: > Le Samedi 25 Octobre 2003 15:39, Leon Brooks a écrit : >> Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I >> log in, the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work >> my way back down to the download, it asks me to log in again. >> Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at >> me in return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here >> is an example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but >> was at one stage considered "Malformed": >> https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GL >>X-4496-2 .1.92mdk.i586.rpm >> Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about >> malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was >> frozen. > Yes I have the exactly same problem with kget integrated into > konqueror when downloading mandrakeclub rpms ! Might be wise to open > a bug report Leon ! Note that the same process works on an adjacent machine using an updated 9.1. I'm about to do a fresh 9.2 install on a different machine, so I'll try the same process with that one. If it breaks, I'll make a bug report, else I'll put it down to an incompletely upgraded installation. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO? LG-proof kernel.
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 22:06, Warly wrote: > 2nd solution, remaster the CD. Use the config files into the misc dir > into repositories. Replace the list line with > > list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 > cooker_path/misc/download cooker_path_/misc/main rpmlist -b > update_RPMS/ > rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS/ Thanks, Warly! Do the updates include an LG-proof (LG == "Lame Goldstar") kernel yet? If so, what's an exact release number so I can check that my local mirror is up to speed? Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] Free Membership for BEST bug hunters?
> Chad this is a great idea. But bug hunting is not the problem. > The problem is fixing them. Well at the moment that certainly does not appear to be the case. With several "issues" being found with the final the CD-ROM problem etc. Also this sort of system would probably help bugs be found and confirmed earlier giving those who deal with them more time to do so. Chad
Re: [Cooker] msec fscked me over. good
On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:09 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:14 pm, illogic-al wrote: > >> up until this morning i was happily at msec 4. i changed one of the > >> default settings and now i can't su to root from anywhere. Either in X > >> or at console. Help. I don't wanna reinstall. I have 9.2 btw > > > > but once again man prevails over machine! > > or man prevails over sh ... uh crappy that is, software in this case. > > Somehow msec decided to change the suid bit on /bin/su > > Well, it didn't decide that by itself, since su does not feature in the > default permissions: well i certainly didn't tell it to. i had no bloody idea what suid bit was or how to set em till today. > > $ grep su /usr/share/msec/perm.? > /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/var/lock/subsys root.root > 755 > /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/var/lock/subsys root.root > 755 > /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/var/lock/subsys root.root > 755 > /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/var/lock/subsys root.root > 755 > /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/var/lock/subsys root.adm > 750 > /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/var/lock/subsys root.root > 700 that's exactly what mine says > > > i followed the instructions here after some judicious googling: > > http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/tru64-unix-managers/2003/0 > >5/msg00025.html and now i'm back in business. > > Lesson for the day, DO NOT allow msec to run cron jobs > > I think you're going to have to look a bit further for that lesson. *I* don't have to look a bit further. this did it for me. > All my > servers run msec 4 with some small customisations, me too. one of the small customizations is not having an hourly cron job run. ever again. > and it's just great > IMHO (with msec running from cron). > > Regards, > Buchan -- The kings of Peru were the Incas, Who were known far and wide as great drincas. They worshipped the sun And had lots of fun, But the peasants all thought they were stincas.
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:20 pm, Juan Quintela wrote: >> > "marc" == Marc Guise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> marc> I read the post about Mdk 9.2 and LG on mandrakeusers.org. I >> have cd-rw drive, marc> model HL-DT-ST GCE 8400b and I have Mdk 9.2rc2 >> running. There are no problems marc> with my LG drive >> >> 21mdk just updated (vdanen should be doing the official update) fixes >> that problem. Only LG plain CD-ROMS are affected. >> >> Later, Juan. >> >> PD. Yep, whoeved decided at LG that reusing for UPLOAD_FIRMAWARE >> command FLUSH_CACHE comand should be shoot. Twice. > > SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you > guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. /. posted a really badly researched post on this (with a bad title too), but it seems public opinion is that hardware shouldn't be vulnerable. It wouldn't hurt though to have an official position sent to /., I think they should reasonably update the summary to indicate that this is a hardware issue that would also affect other users, and hopefully push the availability of updates and how to use them. Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] Re: LG Drives
On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:20 pm, Juan Quintela wrote: > > "marc" == Marc Guise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > marc> I read the post about Mdk 9.2 and LG on mandrakeusers.org. I have > cd-rw drive, marc> model HL-DT-ST GCE 8400b and I have Mdk 9.2rc2 running. > There are no problems marc> with my LG drive > > 21mdk just updated (vdanen should be doing the official update) fixes > that problem. Only LG plain CD-ROMS are affected. > > Later, Juan. > > PD. Yep, whoeved decided at LG that reusing for UPLOAD_FIRMAWARE > command FLUSH_CACHE comand should be shoot. Twice. SO it turns out to be a firmware bug after all that. I really hope you guys don't take the heat for this in the court of public opinion. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem
On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:39 pm, Michael Scherer wrote: > On Sunday 26 October 2003 00:12, Greg Meyer wrote: > > > > This appears to be an undocumented feature. Are there any others > > that are interesting? > > a lot. > but since they are undocumented, we do not always know them. > > have you ever heard of rpm --repackage ? > or fileshareset ? No. Do I have to read the source to learn about these? (since I am not a programmer, that would be an arduous task), or is there a project page somewhere that talks about what is in development? -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
[Cooker] Duplicate packages in current cooker tree
There are some packages that have more than one version sitting on the mirrors right now: in contrib: bugzilla-2.16.3-4mdk.noarch.rpm bugzilla-2.16.3-5mdk.noarch.rpm PHP-nuke-6.0-4mdk.noarch.rpm PHP-nuke-6.9-1mdk.noarch.rpm horde-2.2.4-1mdk.noarch.rpm horde2-2.2.3-2mdk.noarch.rpm in main: draksync-9.0-3mdk.noarch.rpm draksync-9.0-4mdk.noarch.rpm terminal-server-1.5-11mdk.noarch.rpm terminal-server-1.5-12mdk.noarch.rpm __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
> On Friday, October 24, 2003 07:52 am, R N dev wrote: >> Can anyone help me? >> >> Angelo >> >> = >> Building project readlicense_oo >> = >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/html >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme >> - >> java -classpath >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/xt.jar:/usr/src/RPM/ >>BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/parser.jar >> -Dcom.jclark.xsl.sax.parser=com.sun.xml.parser.Parser >> com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver readme.xrm ../readme.xsl >> os1=LINUX gui1=UNX cp1=INTEL com1=GCC lang1=en-US >> type=html >> file=../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html >> FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here >> dmake: Error code 1, while making >> '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html' >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >> >> ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making >> /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme >> dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' >> ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- >> error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.88932 >> (%build) >> > I can't help, but I'd be extremely interested in the solution. I posted > this problem last month in Mandrake Expert (because I was building for > 9.1 rather than cooker). The only responses were two off-list emails > asking if I'd figured it out. OK, well, it ovbiously looks like it's dying in some java/gcj/gij section. Unfortunately this stuff is a mission to work with (trust me, I rebuilt OO.o-1.0.1 for 8.2), since it depends on the features available in gcj etc etc and normally needs the latest features. Anyway, you will need to give a lot more detail on the system you are running this on for anyone to have a chance to help you. What Mandrake release is it? Do you have a jre installed? Do you have gcc-gcj installed? (and which version for those of us who can't remember what it was on the release you are running) Which 'java' binary is first in the path? Aare you compiling with any switches to rpm (ie --with )? Regards, Buchan
[Cooker] Re: LG Drives
> "marc" == Marc Guise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: marc> I read the post about Mdk 9.2 and LG on mandrakeusers.org. I have cd-rw drive, marc> model HL-DT-ST GCE 8400b and I have Mdk 9.2rc2 running. There are no problems marc> with my LG drive 21mdk just updated (vdanen should be doing the official update) fixes that problem. Only LG plain CD-ROMS are affected. Later, Juan. PD. Yep, whoeved decided at LG that reusing for UPLOAD_FIRMAWARE command FLUSH_CACHE comand should be shoot. Twice. -- In theory, practice and theory are the same, but in practice they are different -- Larry McVoy
Re: [Cooker] msec fscked me over. good
> On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:14 pm, illogic-al wrote: >> up until this morning i was happily at msec 4. i changed one of the >> default settings and now i can't su to root from anywhere. Either in X >> or at console. Help. I don't wanna reinstall. I have 9.2 btw > but once again man prevails over machine! > or man prevails over sh ... uh crappy that is, software in this case. > Somehow msec decided to change the suid bit on /bin/su Well, it didn't decide that by itself, since su does not feature in the default permissions: $ grep su /usr/share/msec/perm.? /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/var/lock/subsys root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/var/lock/subsys root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/var/lock/subsys root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/var/lock/subsys root.root 755 /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/var/lock/subsys root.adm 750 /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/var/lock/subsys root.root 700 > i followed the instructions here after some judicious googling: > http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/tru64-unix-managers/2003/05/msg00025.html > and now i'm back in business. > Lesson for the day, DO NOT allow msec to run cron jobs I think you're going to have to look a bit further for that lesson. All my servers run msec 4 with some small customisations, and it's just great IMHO (with msec running from cron). Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] rpm and missing gpg key gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de
> G> it looks like that I need this key :gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de G> > So where can i find it ? > > Newer mind already found it on > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/cks/search.cgi?stype=keyid_4b&keyid_4b=22458A98 > Why wasn't this key imported the first time ? Because it's the key for security updates, and it should be imported for you by urpmi.addmedia when you setup a security update source. See: ftp://mandrake.contactel.cz/Mandrake/updates/9.2/base/pubkey The reason the keys differ is that they are fundamentally different packages. This also has the advantage that you can assign certain keys to certain urpmi media, so for instance if packages signed with the updates key appear in main, they will not be verified. This gives you an extra level of control about ensuring only the rigth packages get installed. Regards, Buchan
Re: [Cooker] msec fscked me over. good
On Saturday 25 October 2003 06:14 pm, illogic-al wrote: > up until this morning i was happily at msec 4. i changed one of the default > settings and now i can't su to root from anywhere. Either in X or at > console. Help. I don't wanna reinstall. I have 9.2 btw but once again man prevails over machine! or man prevails over sh ... uh crappy that is, software in this case. Somehow msec decided to change the suid bit on /bin/su i followed the instructions here after some judicious googling: http://www.ornl.gov/cts/archives/mailing-lists/tru64-unix-managers/2003/05/msg00025.html and now i'm back in business. Lesson for the day, DO NOT allow msec to run cron jobs -- There was a young lady who said, As her bridegroom got into the bed, "I'm tired of this stunt, That they do with one's cunt, You can get up my bottom instead."
Re[6]: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
bccz> Sometimes it is more effective to post a patch, and/or file a bug.
bccz> Sometimes not.
Well i can't post a patch since I'm not really a coder. I can find my
way around C, perl, php but nothing special.
This sometimes bothers me greatly.
bccz> But you seem to infer that only Mandrakesoft people are developers, and
bccz> exclude yourself from possibly being a developer.
Even if I could i wouldn't want to be one.
I have contributed to a couple of projects as a test/bugfinder :)))
but that's it. I had a couple of good ideas that some people
implemented and that's enough for me. I don't think that on this list
anybody considered anything that I suggested.
For example find a message with a subject:
"[Cooker] Lilo + software raid 1 +xfs + lvm curent disfuncionality and
nex release sugesstion"
or "[Cooker] Lilo Installation bug"
It's the same message just a different subject.
I haven't had the time to test this with 9.2 but i bet that this
wasn't fixed.
Haven't had a single reply. This was a significant bug.
People like me don't have the time to get involved too much,
but sometimes we have some good ideas, we find some bugs
and we want them fixed since we don't know how or don't have enough
time to do it ourselves.
bccz> I do. Do you?
Unfortunately I do. Some things i have to do myself since my
problem is unique. I have to build a firewall for my network since my
network is not ordinary. If i want a firewall for my home machine
i will use shorewall. Well probably not but you know what i mean.
bccz> The question is, would the bugs be found in 9.2, or would people think
bccz> "9.2 is just an RC, I will wait for 9.2.1", and then you end up in the
bccz> same situation?
Possible. So lets wait a month or so and build 9.2.1. Or help me build
my own updated 9.2. There are a couple of threads on this list about
this but i haven't seen a good solution.
Those who packaged 9.2 could do it easily but
bccz> %if %{with_MYSQL}
bccz> Requires: MySQL, MySQL-client
bccz> BuildRequires: MySQL, MySQL-client, MySQL-devel
bccz> %endif
I see what you mean. But this is nonsense. If postfix has a module for
mysql why should postfix depend on mysql if it doesn't affect its core
functionality. If you want to use this particular feature its obvious
that you are going to install mysql. Do you get what i mean ?
bccz> And maybe if can be done for 10.0, and we can put UW in contrib? But you
bccz> have people upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2 and lose support for the IMAP server
bccz> they were using.
Provide both. Like with postfix and sendmail they are both on the
first cd. Not enough cds ? Well maybe its time for 4th.
bccz> We are making progress, but it is slow, but it doesn't help if you
bccz> complain ...
It doesn't have to be slow. And what should I do.
Post something like this:
Hi guys, you are doing a great job, you are the greatest in the whole
universe but could you please do me a little favour and put postgre
support in cyrus-sasl ? Please don't get offended if I disturbed you
in some more important work ?
Maybe to sarcastic but you get the point.
If you don't complain and bitch about it nothing will change, or it
will change but really slowly.
Belive me I know. I live in a fucked up country. You have to stand up
and say it or everything stays the same.
bccz> So, send your patches. If Florin won't take them directly (he often
bccz> doesn't manage to look at cyrus stuff), one of the Luca's will take a look
bccz> at it, or I will.
Great if i manage to do it properly i will send it to you.
bccz> I needed LDAP support in samba-2.2.x, and since it couldn't be available
bccz> at run-time, I made it available at compile time. In samba3, xml and mysql
bccz> are optional at runtime, so I have provided the additional packages (and
bccz> hope to do the same for LDAP so the normal samba packages don't
bccz> necessarily need to depend on ldap).
Great If I knew how i would do the same for cyrus.
bccz> Things *do* happen when the people who need them contribute ...
If they know how.
bccz> http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki
Looks interesting.
bccz> Usually this happens because of lack of time. Complaining doesn't help.
bccz> Bug triaging, experimenting, patching etc do. (Of course, there are some
bccz> bugs where fixes were provided but not fixed in the package, including the
bccz> Lisa errata entry ...).
I don't have enough resources to do this. It may seem funny to you but
total bandwidth available to me is 512 kbit/s and I can't use all of
it since i have to be careful and think about my users whom are
currently bitching to me how "internet" is slow. It took me 6 days to
download 3 isos. Cooker would be too much not to mention rc-s.
Not to mention that my office workstation is my 4 year old home
computer. BTW know is 12:28 AM and I'm still at work.
bccz> Well, your post indicates you have missed a lot of similar threads ...
Probably. I haven't read cooker list in a while and honestly I have
been a bit disappointed with it so .
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:31, Francisco Alcaraz wrote: > Formated at 1743 Kb (supermount /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83 > drakfloppy: OK > But > > Trying to start Mandrake 9.2 from the floppy: > Loading initrd.img... > Loading vmlinux . ready > No setup signature found... > > The process stop. > > ¿Any clues? Same problem here with floppy formatted to 1680 KB (fdformat /dev/fdu1680), except I don't get the "No setup signature found" message. Just reboots after taking a lng time trying to read the floppy and showing: Loading initrd.img... Loading vmlinux . Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today
Re: [Cooker] kernel-source bug in 9.2
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003 11:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Trying to compile a kernel with gcc-2.96 using: > Well, this is not supported AFAIK. The default compiler is gcc-3.x, and > that is what is supported for compiling kernels. Oh, OK. There were no probs with this in 9.1 even tho those kernels were by default compiled with gcc-3.x. > > > Do I need to report this as a bug to MandrakeSoft Bugzilla? > Please don't, this isn't our bug I think ... OK, not Mandrake. Perhaps kernel.org? Or maybe just ignore it altogether? > > I need this kernel compiled with gcc-2.96 for my satellite internet > > connection card driver. > Get your hardware vendor to provide an update binary object for your > kernel module, or use an ancient kernel. According to the developer who ported the driver to linux, Telemann (hardware manufacturer) did not make a full source release of their driver and unfortunately there is a binary component (independent of kernel interface) that cannot be compiled. He has approached Telemann about getting this library recompiled or releasing the source code, but they have not yet responded. So it looks like I'll have to go back to an ancient kernel. Hopefully I can use the 9.1 kernel-source-2.4.21-0.25mdk.i586.rpm with 9.2. Thanks very much for your advice Buchan. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today
Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem
On Sunday 26 October 2003 00:12, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:32 pm, Pascal Terjan wrote: > > I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really > > nicer than the first time I did it months ago. > > > > Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) : > > > > 8:glibc > > ## > > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.27792: line 24: rm: command not found > > > > This one is easy to fix but has no impact... > > > > > > 55:rpm-helper > > ## > > /usr/share/rpm-helper/add-group: line 23: /dev/null: No such file > > or directory > > > > This one may turn something wrong but I didn't look into it more. > > This appears to be an undocumented feature. Are there any others > that are interesting? a lot. but since they are undocumented, we do not always know them. have you ever heard of rpm --repackage ? or fileshareset ? -- Michaël Scherer
[Cooker] 9.2 Errata not init floppy: not solved
Formated at 1743 Kb (supermount /dev/fd0 sect=21 cyl=83 drakfloppy: OK But Trying to start Mandrake 9.2 from the floppy: Loading initrd.img... Loading vmlinux . ready No setup signature found... The process stop. ¿Any clues? -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain)
Re: [Cooker] kernel-source bug in 9.2
> Hi > Not sure if this is the right place to ask/report ?? Is this a bug? > > Trying to compile a kernel with gcc-2.96 using: Well, this is not supported AFAIK. The default compiler is gcc-3.x, and that is what is supported for compiling kernels. > Do I need to report this as a bug to MandrakeSoft Bugzilla? Please don't, this isn't our bug I think ... > I need this kernel compiled with gcc-2.96 for my satellite internet > connection card driver. Get your hardware vendor to provide an update binary object for your kernel module, or use an ancient kernel. Regards, Buchan
[Cooker] msec fscked me over. good
up until this morning i was happily at msec 4. i changed one of the default settings and now i can't su to root from anywhere. Either in X or at console. Help. I don't wanna reinstall. I have 9.2 btw -- On his way back from work, a driver came upon a horrible wreck in which one car looked exactly like his neighbor's. Stopping hurriedly on the side of the road, he ran toward the smoldering debris. "Listen, mister," a policeman said, holding him back, "I can't let you come any closer." "But that may be my friend, Henry, in there," the anguished man explained. "OK, but it's pretty grisly," the cop cautioned. "There was a decapitation." The policeman reached into the back seat of the demolished car and pulled forth the head, holding it at arm's length. "Is this your friend?" "That's not him -- thank heavens," the man said. "Henry's much taller."
[Cooker] kernel-source bug in 9.2
Hi Not sure if this is the right place to ask/report ?? Is this a bug? Trying to compile a kernel with gcc-2.96 using: kernel-source-2.4.22-18mdk config from current install of kernel-i686-up-4GB-2.4.22.18mdk-1-1mdk Soltek SL-75KAV motherboard AMD Athlon 1GHz 1024 MB SDRAM nVidia 64MB GTS Pro graphics I get the following error: make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-18mdk/arch/i386/mm' make all_targets make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-18mdk/arch/i386/mm' gcc -D__KERNEL__ -I/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-18mdk/include -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2 -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -pipe -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -nostdinc -iwithprefix include -DKBUILD_BASENAME=init -c init.c -o init.o init.c:463: parse error before `_Bool' init.c:464: warning: function declaration isn't a prototype init.c: In function `one_highpage_init': init.c:465: `bad' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c:465: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once init.c:465: for each function it appears in.) init.c:466: `pfn' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c:467: `page' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c:471: `bad_ppro' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c: In function `free_pages_init': init.c:529: `_Bool' undeclared (first use in this function) init.c:529: parse error before `bad' init.c:530: `bad' undeclared (first use in this function) make[2]: *** [init.o] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-18mdk/arch/i386/mm' make[1]: *** [first_rule] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.22-18mdk/arch/i386/mm' make: *** [_dir_arch/i386/mm] Error 2 Do I need to report this as a bug to MandrakeSoft Bugzilla? I need this kernel compiled with gcc-2.96 for my satellite internet connection card driver. Tried the newbie list but nobody seems to know. Any help much appreciated. Sharrea -- Help Microsoft stamp out piracy - give Linux to a friend today
Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem
On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:32 pm, Pascal Terjan wrote: > I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really nicer > than the first time I did it months ago. > > Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) : > > 8:glibc ## > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.27792: line 24: rm: command not found > > This one is easy to fix but has no impact... > > > 55:rpm-helper > ## > /usr/share/rpm-helper/add-group: line 23: /dev/null: No such file or > directory > > This one may turn something wrong but I didn't look into it more. This appears to be an undocumented feature. Are there any others that are interesting? -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Error buildin Openoffice.org1.1 0.rc4.2mdk
On Friday, October 24, 2003 07:52 am, R N dev wrote: > Can anyone help me? > > Angelo > > = > Building project readlicense_oo > = > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/html > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > - > java -classpath > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/xt.jar:/usr/src/RPM/ >BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/external/common/parser.jar > -Dcom.jclark.xsl.sax.parser=com.sun.xml.parser.Parser > com.jclark.xsl.sax.Driver readme.xrm ../readme.xsl > os1=LINUX gui1=UNX cp1=INTEL com1=GCC lang1=en-US > type=html > file=../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html > FIXME: Emulate java runtime with gij here > dmake: Error code 1, while making > '../../unxlngi4.pro/misc/01/readme01.html' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > > ERROR: Error 65280 occurred while making > /usr/src/RPM/BUILD/oo_1.1rc4_src/readlicense_oo/docs/readme > dmake: Error code 1, while making 'build_all' > ---* TG_SLO.MK *--- > error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.88932 > (%build) > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search > http://shopping.yahoo.com I can't help, but I'd be extremely interested in the solution. I posted this problem last month in Mandrake Expert (because I was building for 9.1 rather than cooker). The only responses were two off-list emails asking if I'd figured it out. Arn
Re: [Cooker] urpmi basesystem
On Saturday 25 October 2003 04:32 pm, Pascal Terjan wrote: > I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really nicer > than the first time I did it months ago. > > Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) : > > 8:glibc ## > /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.27792: line 24: rm: command not found > > This one is easy to fix but has no impact... > > > 55:rpm-helper > ## > /usr/share/rpm-helper/add-group: line 23: /dev/null: No such file or > directory > > This one may turn something wrong but I didn't look into it more. I just did it and got no errors. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 10:06 am, Warly wrote: > list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 cooker_path/misc/download Is the update key pubkey2 or pubkey3 in Mandrake/base? -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
[Cooker] urpmi basesystem
I just tryied urpmi --root /tmp/mdk basesytem, it worked really nicer than the first time I did it months ago. Only got 2 errors (except for kernel but that's not a problem) : 8:glibc ## /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.27792: line 24: rm: command not found This one is easy to fix but has no impact... 55:rpm-helper ## /usr/share/rpm-helper/add-group: line 23: /dev/null: No such file or directory This one may turn something wrong but I didn't look into it more.
Re: [Cooker] TWiki Style
On Thursday 23 October 2003 09:30 am, John Keller wrote: > I would be much more interested in this kind of solution. Wiki markup > should stay simple, especially since mixing style and layout tags with > content raises the barrier for contributors. > It would probably make sense to include the body in a wiki variable so that separate screen and print versions of each page could be set up too. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 10:06 am, Warly wrote: > > 2nd solution, remaster the CD. Use the config files into the misc dir > into repositories. Replace the list line with > > list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 cooker_path/misc/download > cooker_path_/misc/main rpmlist -b update_RPMS/ > rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS/ Do you have to replace the RPMS in the Mandrake/RPMS directory with the updated ones, or does this just tell mkcd to look in both the Mandrake/RPMS and updates/RPMS directory and then takes the newer of the packages for the isos? This is what those lines look like now in the 92.conf file list -k /Mandrake/base/pubkey 1 /download \ /main rpmlist -b /RPMS -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] rpm and missing gpg key gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de
G> it looks like that I need this key :gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de G> So where can i find it ? Newer mind already found it on http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/cks/search.cgi?stype=keyid_4b&keyid_4b=22458A98 Why wasn't this key imported the first time ?
[Cooker] rpm and missing gpg key gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de
When trying to install updates i get an error that i have a missing key. I have tried different things but none seem to work. The last thing I did is I deleted all of the keys and imported RPM-GPG-KEYS from first cd of 9.2 and a key from : https://www.mandrakesecure.net/RPM-GPG-KEYS now rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* gives this output gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3969e7de it looks like that I need this key :gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de So where can i find it ?
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 14:28, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Saturday 25 October 2003 02:00 pm, Emmanuel Moll wrote: > > Look for an earlier post called "New ISO with updates". I'ver worked on > > this this week-end and should have ISOs ready by Monday (fingers crossed). > > > > > I still think that we need an official remastered iso from Mandrakesoft of at > least disk1, and I still think we need to document how to do this, so add any > info you can at > > http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/SlipStreamUpdates I agree. I also think that this could be a possible "club-only" thing, a market gap for Mandrake to take advantage of in order to bring in more Club dollars. Retail boxes could still have the old masters, and *that* would give even retail customers an incentive to join the club (so the money would go more directly to Mandrake) where they could get remastered and updated ISO's for download by bittorrent or FTP. This is another chance to add value to the club, and thus add incentive for the customer to join the club. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN*
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 13:52, Emmanuel Moll wrote: > I am quite newbie with the whole signing the packages thingy. How do I > check all the packages signature and (if failed) how do i resign the > packages with a given signature??? You don't really want to resign anything, the objective in checking the signature is to verify the integrity of the package and to insure that the packages you have are exactly identical to the packages that reside at Mandrake corporate. That's what Gpg signatures do; they verify that the download gave you a package that's identical to the source, or what the author had whenever he signed it. Authenticity. The authenticity thing would be my assurance that the CD I was buying had a set of packages exactly indistinguishable from what Mandrake has, and would therefore be an incentive to order and pay for a set of CD's. It takes people time to read HOWTO's and learn the curve necessary to build installation CD's properly, alot of people don't need to be doing this unless they are going to be doing it alot, and these days more than any other, time is money. Creation of Mandrake installation CD's with the latest update packages already integrated fills the market gap for those people who are busy. But only with assurance of authenticity. > Cheers, > > Manu > > > P.S: Good feedback. I agree with getting new distro CDs every so often > and i am willing to do it (fast net connection helps) every so often (so > expect Manudrake 9.2.2 etc...). i just need a bit of help setting it all > up (e.g. signing packages)... which packages to ad etc... > P.P.S: I am thinking of adding PLF's dvd packages, what do you think?? I think it's a good idea overall, but I would keep one version of installation cd's that were "vanilla", that is indistinguishable from Mandrake's set except of course for the integrated updated packages. Then for a few bucks more you could offer the enhanced version with maybe ALL the PLF stuff. Since you are considering that I also suggest that you include Vincent Danen's set of indisposable RPM's at rpmhelp.net. I don't know about anybody else but I absolutely have to have that stuff. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN*
Re: Re[4]: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
> bccz> Development is totally open. If you want to help, you can. There
> is no bccz> need to ask for developers, because the policy is clear.
> Volunteers are bccz> welcome and always have been.
> ???
> Don't have to ask developers ? If I want something to be changed in ML i
> will post a message to cooker list.
Sometimes it is more effective to post a patch, and/or file a bug.
Sometimes not.
> If other people want the same thing
> then it is up to the developers to make the change. After all they are
> the ones who have the control over the final product.
But you seem to infer that only Mandrakesoft people are developers, and
exclude yourself from possibly being a developer.
>
> bccz> Your point?
> My point ? If you want to do it wright you do it yourself.
I do. Do you?
> bccz> Or that bugs took longer to solve than the time available before
> they had bccz> to meet their commitments.
> bccz> bccz> Of course, Mandrake didn't go out telling people not to test
> this release ... maybe the best solution would be a kind of a fork to
> create a
> "perfect" ml 9.2 (9.2.1) apply all of the updates over the next month or
> so and post a howto for people who wont to build their own distrib.
> isos.
The question is, would the bugs be found in 9.2, or would people think
"9.2 is just an RC, I will wait for 9.2.1", and then you end up in the
same situation?
> There have been a question on cooker list concerning this but I haven't
> seen a god answer for it. I'm currently truing to do the same thing
> myself.
>
> bccz> Have you considered that maybe Mandrakesoft doesn't want postfix
> to depend bccz> on mysql by default, but *does* want to make it easy for
> someone to build bccz> the package with mysql support
>
> No. It was a mistake. The mistake got corrected a few releases later.
> Anyway postfix doesn't depend on mysql it only has a module in it
> built to support mysql.
Which depends on MySQL, and can't be packaged seperately (AFAIK).
From:
http://cvs.mandrakesoft.com/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/SPECS/postfix/postfix.spec?rev=1.63&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup
%define with_MYSQL 0
[...]
%if %{with_MYSQL}
Requires: MySQL, MySQL-client
BuildRequires: MySQL, MySQL-client, MySQL-devel
%endif
> bccz> All you need to do is:
> bccz> $ rpm --rebuild --with mysql postfix*.src.rpm
> Yeah i know how to build rpm.
>
> bccz> No, it's in contrib, along with courier and binc and dovecot.
> There was bccz> resistance to having two IMAP servers in a desktop
> distro. IMHO, we should bccz> replace UW, and have Cyrus in main
> (reclaiming the space sendmail wastes bccz> ;-)).
>
> Yeah I know it's in the contrib but we voted for it to be in the main.
And maybe if can be done for 10.0, and we can put UW in contrib? But you
have people upgrade from 9.1 to 9.2 and lose support for the IMAP server
they were using.
We are making progress, but it is slow, but it doesn't help if you
complain ...
>
> bccz> So, then why is cyrus-imapd in contrib now? Why are there people
> who are bccz> working on making it easier to set it up?
> Yes I know that it is in the contrib thanks to the votes.
> Look the main problem here is that some of us need some new features
> which are not so common. If added they would not make any difference to
> the most people. Most wouldn't even notice them but it would make a
> great difference to some of us since it would be supported by
> mandrake.
> Example cyrus-sasl doesn't have a support for mysql or postgre.
> If added this wouldn't make any difference to most of the people.
> Most of the people don't even use it.
> But it would make a great difference to me since the next time a
> security patch is released I wouldn't have to go try the same process of
> patching building and testing. I don't have enough resources to keep all
> of the old mandrake releases installed so I could build a few rpm when a
> bug is found.
So, send your patches. If Florin won't take them directly (he often
doesn't manage to look at cyrus stuff), one of the Luca's will take a look
at it, or I will.
I needed LDAP support in samba-2.2.x, and since it couldn't be available
at run-time, I made it available at compile time. In samba3, xml and mysql
are optional at runtime, so I have provided the additional packages (and
hope to do the same for LDAP so the normal samba packages don't
necessarily need to depend on ldap).
Things *do* happen when the people who need them contribute ...
> Maybe a moderated feature request list should be built for mandrake
> developers as a reference point.
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/wiki
I meant to summarise some of the authentication-related aspects already,
but haven't had time.
> New features are always welcome as long they don't affect stability.
>
> bccz> Please, post your bug numbers, otherwise there is no reason to
> give any bccz> credence to reports like this.
> Already wasted to much time writing this. Don't have the time to go try
> cooker archive.
OK, waste our time then
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 02:00 pm, Emmanuel Moll wrote: > Look for an earlier post called "New ISO with updates". I'ver worked on > this this week-end and should have ISOs ready by Monday (fingers crossed). > > I still think that we need an official remastered iso from Mandrakesoft of at least disk1, and I still think we need to document how to do this, so add any info you can at http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/SlipStreamUpdates -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
Look for an earlier post called "New ISO with updates". I'ver worked on this this week-end and should have ISOs ready by Monday (fingers crossed). Manu Leon Brooks wrote: Is there a simple HOWTO somewhere with the steps I need to walk through to produce new Download Edition ISOs but with the updated RPMs in place of the originals? Yes, I know it's slack to ask first and search afterwards but it's late here and I'm tired and would want to fetch the RPMs ASAP and get this done tomorrow. Cheers; Leon
[Cooker] Re: No Subject
Le ven 24/10/2003 à 21:12, Guillaume Cottenceau a écrit : > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > - 2.4.22-rc2q5. > [...] > * add packet cdvd support (svetoslav). > > What amazes me is that we've had it in the kernel of 9.2-RC1 and > 9.2-RC2, and it still managed to be, erhm, "featured", in the > final version. All people who say we should do more beta and RC > versions see that such a big problem passed one month of > RC-testing... Real problem would perhaps be to enlarge our > testing community? Anyway, that's not the topic for this day :). mmm > I've passed suggestions to our management as to what to do now - > I think we should act *fast* and be responsible, but I don't know > what will be decided exactly. new iso with updates kernel, that's the only solution at least for dl & club edition. For Powerpack ... new PowerPack version ... So we are going to have a 9.2.1 ? --- Deux coqs vivaient en paix ; une poule survint... Jean de La Fontaine
Re[4]: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
bccz> Development is totally open. If you want to help, you can. There is no bccz> need to ask for developers, because the policy is clear. Volunteers are bccz> welcome and always have been. ??? Don't have to ask developers ? If I want something to be changed in ML i will post a message to cooker list. If other people want the same thing then it is up to the developers to make the change. After all they are the ones who have the control over the final product. bccz> Your point? My point ? If you want to do it wright you do it yourself. bccz> Or that bugs took longer to solve than the time available before they had bccz> to meet their commitments. bccz> bccz> Of course, Mandrake didn't go out telling people not to test this release ... maybe the best solution would be a kind of a fork to create a "perfect" ml 9.2 (9.2.1) apply all of the updates over the next month or so and post a howto for people who wont to build their own distrib. isos. There have been a question on cooker list concerning this but I haven't seen a god answer for it. I'm currently truing to do the same thing myself. bccz> Have you considered that maybe Mandrakesoft doesn't want postfix to depend bccz> on mysql by default, but *does* want to make it easy for someone to build bccz> the package with mysql support No. It was a mistake. The mistake got corrected a few releases later. Anyway postfix doesn't depend on mysql it only has a module in it built to support mysql. bccz> All you need to do is: bccz> $ rpm --rebuild --with mysql postfix*.src.rpm Yeah i know how to build rpm. bccz> No, it's in contrib, along with courier and binc and dovecot. There was bccz> resistance to having two IMAP servers in a desktop distro. IMHO, we should bccz> replace UW, and have Cyrus in main (reclaiming the space sendmail wastes bccz> ;-)). Yeah I know it's in the contrib but we voted for it to be in the main. bccz> So, then why is cyrus-imapd in contrib now? Why are there people who are bccz> working on making it easier to set it up? Yes I know that it is in the contrib thanks to the votes. Look the main problem here is that some of us need some new features which are not so common. If added they would not make any difference to the most people. Most wouldn't even notice them but it would make a great difference to some of us since it would be supported by mandrake. Example cyrus-sasl doesn't have a support for mysql or postgre. If added this wouldn't make any difference to most of the people. Most of the people don't even use it. But it would make a great difference to me since the next time a security patch is released I wouldn't have to go try the same process of patching building and testing. I don't have enough resources to keep all of the old mandrake releases installed so I could build a few rpm when a bug is found. Maybe a moderated feature request list should be built for mandrake developers as a reference point. New features are always welcome as long they don't affect stability. bccz> Please, post your bug numbers, otherwise there is no reason to give any bccz> credence to reports like this. Already wasted to much time writing this. Don't have the time to go try cooker archive. bccz> Possibly in a bug report on the RC or similar. How else do you make an bccz> errata? Report issues that no-one has tested?? You didn't understand what i was trying to say. Some issues were reported and didn't get fixed. bccz> So, you have a better idea? Maybe you know how to patch CDs? bccz> Of course, you can always do the update after installation. You missed the point. When an obvious thing doesn't work it leaves a bad impression. bccz> It looks like you are new to cooker, so remember: Actually I'm not. bccz> 1)This is not a support list This should be a developers list where all users can share ideas how to make a better Mandrake . bccz> 2)Don't troll, contribute instead (that's the only way things get better). I'm trying and a have tried to contribute. I didn't write this just to get some steam out. If I wanted that I would just say @[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@#!@ well something inappropriate : I have been a long time user of mandrake and its irritating when the same mistakes are happening all over again. bccz> It also seems you are assuming the worst about everyone, instead of bccz> realising that there are constraints on many aspects (available time, bccz> number s of bad bug reports etc etc). Maybe. But according to my experience until you start complaining about something it will never get fixed. the problem here is that until a lot of people starts complaining nothing will get changed. A lot of people think like this 9.0 = test, 9.1 = a little better, 9.2 = absolutely perfect. this just to be in the old days. Now it seems that to many people are crying for bleeding edge and distributions are truing to catch up.
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
I am quite newbie with the whole signing the packages thingy. How do I check all the packages signature and (if failed) how do i resign the packages with a given signature??? Cheers, Manu P.S: Good feedback. I agree with getting new distro CDs every so often and i am willing to do it (fast net connection helps) every so often (so expect Manudrake 9.2.2 etc...). i just need a bit of help setting it all up (e.g. signing packages)... which packages to ad etc... P.P.S: I am thinking of adding PLF's dvd packages, what do you think?? Lyvim Xaphir wrote: On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 06:57, Emmanuel Moll wrote: Righto, the isos are created and I'm just about to test them. If I cannot find any problems, I'll bittorrent them on Monday under the name of Manudrake-9.2.1 (I'm fairly sure i cannot use the name Mandrake and 9.2.1 is better than 9.2SP1 (in my opinion)). Also, since I'm a bit strapped for cash this month, I'm planning to sell these on CDs in the UK for people with slower connections (kinda like cheapbytes) - probably for £5 for 4 CDs including shipping (will get back on Monday). Anyone interested??? Cheers, Manu This is a fantastic idea, I wish somebody had done this a long time ago. What would be nice is that every so often, a snapshot of the distro with the latest bug fixes be released; for use when you are installing new and you don't want to bother with a fourth download cd or you don't have an internet connection handy. In my opinion this is a real market gap and it's something I'd be willing to pay for. Right now 9.1 has a huge amount of updates that would better be integrated into a new set of installation cd's, instead of a tag-along cd as I'm doing it now. The only suggestion I have is that before you master them you do all your Gpg checks on the packages and make sure all the rpm's pass. LX
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
I am absolutely according with this; I am introducing lot of people to use Mandrake and installing it in his computers, but everythime we have to spend lot of time donwloading updates; if every time updated isos were avalaible for the last distribution we could had a great and almost perfect distributions to take people to Mandrake. To wonderfull to be true?; I hope not :-) > This is a fantastic idea, I wish somebody had done this a > long time ago. What would be nice is that every so > often, a snapshot of the distro with the latest bug fixes > be released; for use when you are installing new and you > don't want to bother with a fourth download cd or you > don't have an internet connection handy. In my opinion > this is a real market gap and it's something I'd be > willing to pay for. > > Right now 9.1 has a huge amount of updates that would > better be integrated into a new set of installation cd's, > instead of a tag-along cd as I'm doing it now. > > The only suggestion I have is that before you master them > you do all your Gpg checks on the packages and make sure > all the rpm's pass. > > LX -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Murcia, España (Spain)
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
On Saturday 25 October 2003 10:06 am, Warly wrote: > Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Is there a simple HOWTO somewhere with the steps I need to walk through > > to produce new Download Edition ISOs but with the updated RPMs in place > > of the originals? > > > > Yes, I know it's slack to ask first and search afterwards but it's late > > here and I'm tired and would want to fetch the RPMs ASAP and get this > > done tomorrow. > > Maybe you can write this howto? :) > > Basically, 2 options. > > 1st one, create a complementary update CD based uppon existing download CDs > which only contains the updated package. > > 2nd one, remaster the download edition including the updates. I'll start a wiki page for this. Hopefully as people try and work out the step by step details, you can fill in the gaps. I believe the technical term for this is slipstreaming the updates into the original install disks. http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/SlipStreamUpdates -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
[Cooker] Konqueror bug
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anybody else is seeing this ? Upon opening a bookmark from Konqueror (http://www.cnn.com/ in this case, but it happened with other addresses too), I am getting this message : "There appears to be a configuration error. You have associated Konqueror with text/html, but it can't handle this file type." When I restart Konqueror, it goes away only to appear again after some time. It is extremely annoying, to say at least :-( Jan - -- Jan Ciger VRlab EPFL Switzerland GPG public key : http://www.keyserver.net/ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/mrCsn11XseNj94gRAgh0AKDRDNWkBbDfPduLSRnF7gZIckaslQCdFRIx gGtZNRBWVQE2oXkxpjIHX4o= =duEP -END PGP SIGNATURE-
[Cooker] no more bugzilla notifications in cooker ?
I receive no more bugzilla notifications in cooker ? Is this intentionnal? -- Pascal __ Running 11:56, 1 user, load average: 1.05, 0.71, 0.58 (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-2mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.22-16mdkenterprise
[Cooker] bind-9.2.3-1mdk
Hi (Florin). For some reason this happens in a real world situation: # /etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart Stopping named: [ OK ] named: already [EMAIL PROTECTED] init.d]# # /etc/rc.d/init.d/named restart Stopping named: rndc: connect failed: connection refused [FAILED] Starting named: [ OK ] Proposed fix: --- /etc/rc.d/init.d/named 2003-10-24 21:13:10.0 +0200 +++ /etc/rc.d/init.d/named.oden 2003-10-25 18:32:33.0 +0200 @@ -54,6 +54,7 @@ echo return $RETVAL } + sleep 1 success echo return $RETVAL ???
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
On Sat, 2003-10-25 at 06:57, Emmanuel Moll wrote: > Righto, the isos are created and I'm just about to test them. If I > cannot find any problems, I'll bittorrent them on Monday under the name > of Manudrake-9.2.1 (I'm fairly sure i cannot use the name Mandrake and > 9.2.1 is better than 9.2SP1 (in my opinion)). > Also, since I'm a bit strapped for cash this month, I'm planning to sell > these on CDs in the UK for people with slower connections (kinda like > cheapbytes) - probably for £5 for 4 CDs including shipping (will get > back on Monday). Anyone interested??? > > Cheers, > > Manu This is a fantastic idea, I wish somebody had done this a long time ago. What would be nice is that every so often, a snapshot of the distro with the latest bug fixes be released; for use when you are installing new and you don't want to bother with a fourth download cd or you don't have an internet connection handy. In my opinion this is a real market gap and it's something I'd be willing to pay for. Right now 9.1 has a huge amount of updates that would better be integrated into a new set of installation cd's, instead of a tag-along cd as I'm doing it now. The only suggestion I have is that before you master them you do all your Gpg checks on the packages and make sure all the rpm's pass. LX -- °°° Linux Mandrake 9.1 Kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk *Catch Star Trek Enterprise, Wednesdays on UPN*
Re[2]: [(nowhere)] [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
JC> rpm -qa gpg-pubkey* JC> gpg-pubkey-22458a98-3969e7de JC> gpg-pubkey-9b4a4024-3874ddfb JC> gpg-pubkey-70771ff3-3c8f768f JC> The first key is the one you are missing. Beats me. I will try to delete all of the keys then add the one from isos and the other from mandrakes site. What I don't understand is how when I check signature of packages in for example RPMS dir everything is ok. But on updates something is wrong. I thought that Updates should be signed with a same key.
Re: [Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
Le Samedi 25 Octobre 2003 15:39, Leon Brooks a écrit : > Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I log in, > the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work my way back > down to the download, it asks me to log in again. > > Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at me in > return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here is an > example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but was at one > stage considered "Malformed": > > https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GLX-4496-2 >.1.92mdk.i586.rpm > > Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about > malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was frozen. > > Cheers; Leon Yes I have the exactly same problem with kget integrated into konqueror when downloading mandrakeclub rpms ! Might be wise to open a bug report Leon ! -- Pascal __ Running 10:40, 1 user, load average: 0.06, 0.09, 0.08 (gcc version 3.3.1 (Mandrake Linux 9.2 3.3.1-2mdk)) Kernel Linux version 2.4.22-16mdkenterprise
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
You know what would be really nice; A mandrake document describing the process of creating distro .ISO's. I don't mean how to run gendistrib, or packdrake, or mkcd; but what exactly is done, ie. the process. -- John Allen, mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MandrakeClub Silver Member. http://allentech.homelinux.org/
[Cooker] LG Drives
I read the post about Mdk 9.2 and LG on mandrakeusers.org. I have cd-rw drive, model HL-DT-ST GCE 8400b and I have Mdk 9.2rc2 running. There are no problems with my LG drive Marc Guise This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses.
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
I have: HL-DT-ST GCE-8320B 32x 10x 40x PC266 M810L MB / Socket A / AMD Athalon 1GHz Mandrake 9.2 No problems with reading and writing CDs __ McAfee VirusScan Online from the Netscape Network. Comprehensive protection for your entire computer. Get your free trial today! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/computing/mcafee/index.jsp?promo=393397 Get AOL Instant Messenger 5.1 free of charge. Download Now! http://aim.aol.com/aimnew/Aim/register.adp?promo=380455
Re: [Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
Leon Brooks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is there a simple HOWTO somewhere with the steps I need to walk through > to produce new Download Edition ISOs but with the updated RPMs in place > of the originals? > > Yes, I know it's slack to ask first and search afterwards but it's late > here and I'm tired and would want to fetch the RPMs ASAP and get this > done tomorrow. Maybe you can write this howto? :) Basically, 2 options. 1st one, create a complementary update CD based uppon existing download CDs which only contains the updated package. 2nd one, remaster the download edition including the updates. --- 1st solution: Mkcd config file (more or less, may need some tweeking) NOTE: you need mkcd CVS to to that, I fixed a bug yesterday for this mode. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- list 1 -k cooker_pubkey_files -k update_pubkey_files rpmlist --update -b updates_RPMS_dir rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS disc 1 650m 92UPDATE1 "Update CD 1 (x86)" "MandrakeLinux9.2-Update-1" -p Publisher_id dir rpms Mandrake/RPMS4 generic --synthesis rpms 1 installation -o 50,3,0.1 --synthesis -l fr,it,en,de,es -t WhateverName-download-i586 -i install_path -d 1/rpms -f --update --noprovide hdlist:download_hdlist1_files,Mandrake/RPMS,"Installation1" hdlist:download_hdlist2_files,Mandrake/RPMS2,"Installation2" hdlist:download_hdlist3_files,Mandrake/RPMS3,"Installation3" boot --isolinux isolinux -b isolinux/isolinux.bin --first install_path/isolinux -f install_path/images -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- 2nd solution, remaster the CD. Use the config files into the misc dir into repositories. Replace the list line with list -k cooker_key_file -k update_key_file 1 cooker_path/misc/download cooker_path_/misc/main rpmlist -b update_RPMS/ rpmlist -b 9.2_RPMS/ -- Warly
[Cooker] Anyone else having trouble fetching MandrakeClub RPMs?
Every time I go to download an RPM I get asked to log in. When I log in, the site sends me back to the welcome screen. When I work my way back down to the download, it asks me to log in again. Immediately before this, Konqueror was throwing "Malformed URL" at me in return for a perfectly happy-looking HTTPS download URL. Here is an example of a URL which is currently asking me to log in but was at one stage considered "Malformed": https://download.mandrakeclub.com/downloads/comm/9.2/i586/NVIDIA_GLX-4496-2.1.92mdk.i586.rpm Mozilla just does the login loop for me, has never complained about malformation. System is 9.2-ish made from Cooker while it was frozen. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003, Élie Charest wrote: > Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a > > > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2 > > > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final > > > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let > > > > you know. How do I find the firmware version? > > > > > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the > > > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website, > > > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that. > > > > perhaps hdparm -i gives it? > > Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm". > i assume it is not really a scsi device? if you use ide-scsi use the hd? identifier instead of the scsi device node (/dev/hdb or such). d. >
[Cooker] Remastering-with-updates HOWTO?
Is there a simple HOWTO somewhere with the steps I need to walk through to produce new Download Edition ISOs but with the updated RPMs in place of the originals? Yes, I know it's slack to ask first and search afterwards but it's late here and I'm tired and would want to fetch the RPMs ASAP and get this done tomorrow. Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] [origin found] 9.2 and fried LG cdroms - what's the solution?
On Sat, 25 Oct 2003 05:12, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Ok, here's status: Nicolas Planel found the origin of the > problem. It's the "packet writing support" for cd/dvd burners > that was introduced on 15th of August I'm astounded that anyone would ship a drive that can be fried in software. What's the solution? Is a fried drive truly fried, or can they be re-flashed or something to resuscitate it? Cheers; Leon
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
Le 25 Octobre 2003 08:15, Élie Charest a écrit : > Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > > On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a > > > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2 > > > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final > > > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let > > > > you know. How do I find the firmware version? > > > > > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the > > > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website, > > > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that. > > > > perhaps hdparm -i gives it? > > Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm". Uh, wait, it DOES work. I had to do "hdparm -i /dev/hdb" instead of "hdparm -i /dev/scd0". What an idiot... Okay, my firmware on my LG CD-RW CED-8080B is 1.06 (and it's still working fine). -- Élie Charest [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://archie.homelinux.net:8080
Re: [Cooker] Free Membership for BEST bug hunters?
Chad S Harland wrote: Here is a rather Random suggestion that might improve testing and bug reporting for the Beta's and RC's. Offer 1 years "Free membership to Mandrake Club" to the 2 or 3 people who report the most bugs that are confirmed during the Beta and RC process. Also offer a years or 6 months free membership to the person who reports the "Most Critical" bug which is Confirmed. This wouldn't really cost MandrakeSoft any thing other than a few MB of Bandwidth of club packages. Membership to Mandrake Club would be the cheapest option but others such as a "Free Copy of ProSuite" or a "DVD version MandrakeLinux" signed by the MandrakeSoft Developers might work as well. This would probably would help boost interest in Bug reporting and Beta testing among the wider Mandrake Community. This would need to be advertised quite clearly and throughly during the final testing process to work and could be linked to a clear and detailed guide or description of how to test, find bugs and report them. Chad Chad this is a great idea. But bug hunting is not the problem. The problem is fixing them.
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] [UPDATED: origin of the problem found] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
Am Freitag, 24. Oktober 2003 23:12 schrieb Guillaume Cottenceau: > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives. > > Ok, here's status: Nicolas Planel found the origin of the > problem. It's the "packet writing support" for cd/dvd burners > that was introduced on 15th of August, changelog reading: > > - 2.4.22-rc2q5. > [...] > * add packet cdvd support (svetoslav). > > What amazes me is that we've had it in the kernel of 9.2-RC1 and > 9.2-RC2, and it still managed to be, erhm, "featured", in the > final version. All people who say we should do more beta and RC I had the 9.2RC1 here too and had no problems. Alltough i don't remember if i had the CDROm built in during that time. > I've passed suggestions to our management as to what to do now - > I think we should act *fast* and be responsible, but I don't know > what will be decided exactly. > > By the way, latest list: > > fried: > COMPAQ CRD-8322B(CP1) > CRD-8400B (machine: Dell Optiplex gx1) > CRD-8400B (machine: IBM PC 300 PL) > CDR-8400B(mi) > CRD-8400C > COMPAQ CRD-8402B > LG CRD-8480C (machine: Old Dell XPS T650r) > GCR-8481B (machine: Dell Optiplex gx270; rom: 1.06; date: jun 2003) > CRD-8482B (machine: Dell Optiplex GX1) > GOLDSTAR CDR-8482B (machine: HP Vectra VL400; firmware: 1.01) > CRD-8482B (Dell Precision 220, rom: 1.05) > LG (machine: HP Vectras VL4xx) > GCC 4480B DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM (firmware 1.00 - upgrading firmware to > 1.01 workarounds problem) > > work: > LG GMA-4020B DVD-RW > LG GCC-4120B CDRW/DVD > LG CD-RW CED-8080B DVD/CD-R/RW/CDROM > LG CD-RW CED-8120B (motherboard: ASUS K7M) > HL-DT-ST GCC-4480B (machine: Shuttle SB 62 G2 - i865/ICH5; firmware > 1.01 - WARNING, firmware 1.00 is reported to have the fry problem!) > HL-DT-ST RW/DVD GCC-4480B (motherboard: ASUS A7N8X-Deluxe) > HL-DT-STDVD-ROM GDR8161B (motherboard: Soyo) > HL-DT-ST CD-RW GCE-8240B > HL-DT-ST GCE-8481B CD-CDRW (chipset: SIS 651/962) > HL-DT-ST CD-ROM GCR-8520B > HL-DT-ST GCE-8520B (motherboard: ASUS P4P800)
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
Le 25 Octobre 2003 06:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : > On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a > > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2 > > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final > > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let > > > you know. How do I find the firmware version? > > > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the > > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website, > > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that. > > perhaps hdparm -i gives it? Nah, it says "/dev/scd0 not supported by hdparm". -- Élie Charest [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://archie.homelinux.net:8080
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Hey, I had a quick look at the patch but I'm not sure how to apply it to the tree. If you have any ideas, please let me know and I'll apply it no problem. Manu Vedran Ljubovic wrote: --- Emmanuel Moll <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Righto, the isos are created and I'm just about to test them. If I cannot find any problems, I'll bittorrent them on Monday under the name of Manudrake-9.2.1 (I'm fairly sure i cannot use the name Mandrake and 9.2.1 is better than 9.2SP1 (in my opinion)). That's great! When you release I'll download at work and leave the torrent up for others. Question: is it possible also to update the installation procedure itself (re: issue no. 3 on the official errata)? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
Am Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003 13:52 schrieb Greg Meyer: > On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:42 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives. > > > > Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive > > and have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a > > kernel update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine > > tomorrow and he as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another > > drive. > > It looks to me like if you try to use the drive, whether installing > with it or using it later, you will fry it. If you don't need it, > maybe you should disconnect it until the update comes. Ok thanks. I will take this advice, maybe we wait until the new kernel is out. Since we know now the reason of it, it shouldn't take to long. I for myself doesn't have that problem anymore, i have my cash back for my fried drive and will stay away from LG from now on. Thanks Steffen
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
On Saturday 25 October 2003 07:42 am, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives. > > Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and > have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel > update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine tomorrow and he > as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another drive. > It looks to me like if you try to use the drive, whether installing with it or using it later, you will fry it. If you don't need it, maybe you should disconnect it until the update comes. -- /g "Outside of a dog, a man's best friend is a book, inside a dog it's too dark to read" -Groucho Marx
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
> On Friday 24 October 2003 07:14 am, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > > Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > For the moment, it seems it's related to LG CRD-84xx drives. > > Another Question. Is it safe to install Mdk 9.2 with another drive and have an LG on the machine afterwards ? Or should i wait till a kernel update is out ? I will install 9.2 on a friends machine tomorrow and he as an LG drive too. For install i use sure another drive. Greets Steffen
Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Well if you haven't seen it a loot of others have. > > But that doesn't help fix it. Mandrakesoft has > problems reproducing it too > (and 'just install a package' isn't a reproducible > test case), so it's > difficult for them to solve it. Hope this helps: steps to reproduce: - make a fresh install of Mandrake 9.2 final (not an update!) - choose all desktops (KDE, GNOME, Other) and all other package groups but not servers - choose KDE as your default desktop during install and in first time wizard - make some changes to the kicker i.e. add a Konqueror button to kicker - install package "kdeaddons-3.1.3-4mdk.i586.rpm" - wait Symptoms include: - K menu shows only a small subset of what it should show - the Konqueror button miraculously dissapears from Kicker - the Konqueror icon on desktop gives error something like "File 'home.desktop' not found" - logging out and back in *does not* help (except for the desktop icon) - running update-menus *does not* help - running MenuDrake and changing style to any other style than "Administrator settings" (please understand that my Mandrake is translated so this might not be accurate) *does* help. Also note that some users are reporting that Alt+F2 in these circumstances doesn't work. In this testcase it works, infact that's the only way to run menudrake. I was under impression that this problem was detected http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5957 and solved http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5511 so why is this discussion persisting? __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] New ISO with updates
Righto, the isos are created and I'm just about to test them. If I cannot find any problems, I'll bittorrent them on Monday under the name of Manudrake-9.2.1 (I'm fairly sure i cannot use the name Mandrake and 9.2.1 is better than 9.2SP1 (in my opinion)). Also, since I'm a bit strapped for cash this month, I'm planning to sell these on CDs in the UK for people with slower connections (kinda like cheapbytes) - probably for £5 for 4 CDs including shipping (will get back on Monday). Anyone interested??? Cheers, Manu
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Vedran Ljubovic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > I have here a HL-DT-ST GCE-8400B CD-RW. MB is a > > taiwanese (i think Chaintech) with VIA KT-266. RC2 > > installed fine, didn't have time to try 9.2 final > > though, I'll probably do it over the weekend and let > > you know. How do I find the firmware version? > > If unchanged, it's printed in a sticker on the upper side of the > drive, generally. If update, I don't know, visit LG website, > there's probably Windows .exe utilities to do that. perhaps hdparm -i gives it? d. > >
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
--- Élie Charest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le 24 Octobre 2003 11:04, Guillaume Cottenceau a > écrit : > > Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Mine has a 1.01 firmware > > > > Very interesting then. > > > > Listing all firmware versions needed will be long > though :/. > > Pardon my ignorance, but how does one go about > determining the firmware > version of a CD/CD-RW drive? Found it! You can determine your firmware version during boot if you enable drive autodetection in BIOS. My GCE-8400B is firmware v1.02 __ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com
Re: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, Greg Meyer wrote: > On Friday 24 October 2003 01:20 pm, Brook Humphrey wrote: > > > On this page > > > http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/advisories/advisory.php?name=MDKA-2003:0 > > >20 > > > > > > Mandrake says that all of the mandrakeclub commercial drivers are > > > available. > > > Quote: > > > "New commercial drivers for this kernel are available at Mandrake > > > Club." > > > Now my English is a bit rusty but this should mean that they are there > > > wright NOW ! > > > I don't see them here : > > > http://rpms.mandrakeclub.com/rpms/MandrakeClub/comm/9.2/i586/ByDate.html > > > > um they are. Maybe you didn't look right at the top of the page but listed > > right there are drivers for ati, nvidia, winmodems and whatnot else. > Those are the ones for the original kernel, not the updated ones that are > referred to on the security advisory page. He is right, they are not there. > And if I might add (if the maintainers of those packages are on any of the lists at all): Why are there no srpms so that one of the club contributers could have updated them? Who had this fabulous idea of not putting up srpms? Most of the inhouse made commercial rpms are full of bugs, incompatible and outdated. It is a waste of employee-time to maintain these things. Put the srpms up and let us rebuild it when needed. (no i do not put up my own versions because last time i did that with java people were complaining to me about the other rpm, it is confusing and another waste of recources to double the work) d.
Re: [Cooker] [IMPORTANT] 9.2 install potentially frying some LG cdrom drives
On 24 Oct 2003, Guillaume Cottenceau wrote: > Régis Wira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Mine has a 1.01 firmware > > Very interesting then. > > Listing all firmware versions needed will be long though :/. Régis can try downgrading firmware and try to fry his drive? d. > >
Re: [Cooker] network icon on deskop?
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003, FACORAT Fabrice wrote: > Le ven 24/10/2003 à 12:20, Jan Ciger a écrit : > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Brad Felmey wrote: > > | I will smile and politely pat you on the shoulder, understanding > > | perfectly that you obviously have zero experience migrating an > > | enterprise environment to Linux. > > > > Well, yes, you are right, but what I do not agree with is putting a link > > to "smb:/" on the desktop, unless it is made more reliable. > > > > It does not work properly for me (I am current on Cooker) - I am seeing > > some shares from our Windows server but not others, some directories > > seem to be empty even though they are not and many other strange things > > like this. > > > > Either use LinNeighborhood (which works fine for me) or nothing for now, > > because a half-broken solution is worse than none. > > filled bug reports against lisa/gnome-vfs/kio-smb yes, but not to say they are bugged. The whole design idea is wrong. IMO in doesn't make sense to abstract a filesystem at a DE level, at least not for current systems. It would be better if lisa (or whatever) asked LUFS or even plain (smb)mount to mount the fs. This is less work and has probably less bugs than the current hacks. Playing an mp3 via smb:// currently means downloading the file first before a player starts playing it. I do not want 2 minute pauses between my music (don't even try it with video). Mounting it makes it available for all apps and toolkits. Makes more sense to me. d.
Re: Re[2]: [Cooker] 9.2 Updates a total mess
> bccz> Maybe you have an old page cached, but at least all the NVidia > kernel bccz> packages have been updated. I hope the ATI and winmodem > drivers could also I know how to check for a page in cache. It wasn't > it. > > bccz> BTW, this is better than 9.1, where Mandrakesoft did not update > any of the > bccz> proprietary kernel modules, and Club contributors did > it all. > > True. > > bccz> I don't think so. I think the current problem is not enough > resources (ie > bccz> more people sending patches, maintaining packages > would help). > > Well that's mandrakesofts problem. It's your problem just as mich (if you have issues). > If they don't have enough money to > hire people they should ask for more volunteers. Development is totally open. If you want to help, you can. There is no need to ask for developers, because the policy is clear. Volunteers are welcome and always have been. > bccz> If you're going to use shorewall, get Florin's updated packages. > > Shorewall is a nice but when you have to build a firewall for network > which has 150+ users and 15+ classes of users that won't do. Your point? > bccz> I haven't seen the menu problem on my cooker box, so I don't > agree. And I > bccz> think the fact that many bugs have been fixed by > updates so fast is a good > bccz> thing. > > Well if you haven't seen it a loot of others have. But that doesn't help fix it. Mandrakesoft has problems reproducing it too (and 'just install a package' isn't a reproducible test case), so it's difficult for them to solve it. > Don't get me wrong updates are always good but they also show > that 9.2 wasn't tested enough. Or that bugs took longer to solve than the time available before they had to meet their commitments. Of course, Mandrake didn't go out telling people not to test this release ... > > bccz> Most people are just clueless, and run Redhat because everyone > else does, > bccz> Instead of dissing a distro you have significant > investment in, maybe you > bccz> could actually help to improve it? Many > of us do, and that is one reason bccz> why it *is* actually worthwhile. > > O now you really got me going. > Well let see. > I few years ago I needed postfix with mysql support. postfix in > mandrake didn't have it. I downloaded srpm and found that mysql was in > but switch in spec file wasn't activated. It took quite a while for a > new package to appear. Even one security update was released but the > switch wasn't activated. Once more i had to build it myself. Have you considered that maybe Mandrakesoft doesn't want postfix to depend on mysql by default, but *does* want to make it easy for someone to build the package with mysql support All you need to do is: $ rpm --rebuild --with mysql postfix*.src.rpm Luckily, ldap support is on by default. > What's the big deal? I had to avoid using automatic update procedure > since it would break my mail server. Yes, this needs to be solved in some way (but building postfix with mysql isn't the total solution, rather we need to deal with custom packages better). Anyway, you could just have added postfix to your /etc/urpmi/skip.list. > Next: > The same time I needed cyrus-imapd but no mandrake didn't have it. > Strange it was in 7.0/7.1. let me check. I pull from the closet my old > powerpacks and see that cyrus imapd was inside. > Ok again the same thing. I make a cyrus-imapd rpm. Test it for a few > days. everything is ok. After 2 years it's still working happily. > After some time I clean that spec file and send it cooker list. > Just wonted to help out. Nobody cares. > 2 years later cyrus-imapd still is not in standard set. No, it's in contrib, along with courier and binc and dovecot. There was resistance to having two IMAP servers in a desktop distro. IMHO, we should replace UW, and have Cyrus in main (reclaiming the space sendmail wastes ;-)). > I wasted all of my votes on it as so many others did but nobody > listens to us. So, then why is cyrus-imapd in contrib now? Why are there people who are working on making it easier to set it up? > The newest msn chat client or some other crap is > probably more important. Actually, it's not (as the gaim users will probably complain). > Next: a couple of posts concerning bugs missing functionality etc. all > passed by nobody cared. Please, post your bug numbers, otherwise there is no reason to give any credence to reports like this. > Next: mandrakeclub been a member since it was made. It wasn't worth the > money but still I'm a member. Why ? because I want to help. > It looks like nobody cares. How so? > bccz> Oh yes, of course you should always read the errata before > installing. And > bccz> maybe someone needs to add the menu issue to it > for now. > > How is errata being built. Look for yourself: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/twiki/bin/view/Main/Mandrake92, look at the older revisions of that page to see the history of the errata, and you will see a number were up before ISOs were releas
