Re: [Cooker] [Bug 5566] [kdebase] New: use of proprietary menu location defeats the purpose of a standard Linux desktop
On Thursday 11 September 2003 23:31, Buchan Milne wrote: On Thu, 11 Sep 2003, [adilz] wrote: The menu location should be standardized and the KDE default location can be used by all Linux distributions. And what about users who use GNOME, WindowMaker, IceWM? Or, do you think it is more feasible to support 11 desktops/window managers instead of one menu standard (currently shared by Debian and Mandrake)? My second computer has Debian installed. The main difference is that Debian DOES NOT SUBSTITUTE the original KDE menu, but rather ADDS to it. If not, third party software installers will not create links in the KDE start menu. Tough. The use of menudrake is covered in the documentation in the distro. OK, so the third party installers should use menudrake in case of Mandrake, Debian menu system in case of Debian, regular KDE menu system in case of hell knows what... Why do they need all this headache, if it's possible just to use the regular KDE menu system, and let users of some non-regular distribution cope with their problems themselves? Does it install menus for the other 11 window managers avaialble in the distribution. That's the root of the problem. Freedesktop.org standards are not ready yet, but once they are, the policy should be simple - any desktop that doesn't support these standards, just doesn't get included into the distribution, or is included as unsupported. I would strongly suggest using the same location as KDE does for menus. Mandrake can add items and folders to that standard location and build the applnk-mdk menus there. And how do you propose ensuring that these menus do not get removed when the new ones are rebuilt? And how Debian does ensure? That's exactly what it does. Sorry, but the problem is upstream. All the desktops should support the standards for menus as specified int he freedesktop.org specifications. Agree completely. Until then, it is impossible to satisfy everyone completely. It is. Switch to the exact Debian way - add entries to KDE menu, don't substitute it. It's not only for third party applications, it's for installing from source too. It's not always possible to find Mandrake-specific RPM for some KDE application, especially for a fresh one. Mandrake provides easy to use solutions for both strategies, but defaults to using a single consistent menu across desktops. If you install so much software that it is such a waste of your time to create menu entries, swap to using the original menus using menudrake. @resolution=invalid -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Thanks
Hi all, I would just like to say thanks to everyone who helped me get 8.2 up and running on my old world G3. Some people at work seem to be starting to like it, so at least that's encouraging for the switch for the other newer machines. Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Le ven 25/07/2003 à 13:43, Stew Benedict a écrit : You shouldn't have had to unstuff anything. The only thing I stuffed in MacOS is the Mandrake Linux Install.Sit. Everything else was created under Linux and should be ready to use. Ah. OK, then I unstuffed the img file for nothing and shall replace it an untouched copy. I'm not sure how you have your particular machine setup, but normally there is a linux kernels folder under BootX, and that's where I put kernels and initrds. Sounds like your BootX is looking at a different folder than the one you're placing the items in. Yes, well that's where I put them. I'll try rummaging around with the Finder and see if there isn't another BootX directory somewhere. I found an 8.2 repository. Looks like I mislead you a little on where to find the items: ncftp /Mandrake-old/8.2/ppc pwd ftp://mandrake.redbox.cz/Mandrake-old/8.2/ppc/ ncftp /Mandrake-old/8.2/ppc ls misc/BootX-kernels/ initrd-2.2.19-14mdk.img vmlinuz-2.2.19-14mdk initrd-2.4.4-6.2mdk.img vmlinuz-2.4.4-6.2mdk You should have misc/BootX-kernels on your CD also. Thanks for the info. I'll have to wait until next week now to try again - it's a good job that this is the first machine I'm trying this on, since it's also the oldest. THe others are more recent, so with any luck the installation process should be a bit easier. Old World machines are the worst. The whole boot linux from MacOS concept seems to really throw a lot of people. Especially if they are new to linux, and now all of a sudden they need to deal with kernels, initrds, kernel arguments etc. Well, I've managed to recompile my kernel on my x86 box, update, modify lilo and all that other stuff that clickophiles donn't really want to do (am I still a newbie if I'm doing that ;-p), but the BootX scenario on the Mac platform really does have me thrown because I have difficulty comprehending how a Mac boots in the first place. Once I finally figure out what exactly is going on (BootX seems to shut down the Mac and then reboot), I might understand a bit more and find it easier going. Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 17:55, Stew Benedict a écrit : Still using the installer stuff. There should be system kernels and initrds in the BootX folder on the CD - no? (memeory is fading on 8.2, and I don't have a disk handy). Yep. I copied these (well I had to unstuff the img initrd file first) from the BootX folder on the CD into the folder where bootx presumably looks for them, but it didn't appear to find them. I could still only choose vmlinuz or vmlinuz2.2 from the bootx menu. I'll have to wait until next week now to try again - it's a good job that this is the first machine I'm trying this on, since it's also the oldest. THe others are more recent, so with any luck the installation process should be a bit easier. Thanks anyway for all your help. Alex.
Re: Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Le lun 21/07/2003 à 02:54, Stew Benedict a écrit : Could be. Try using drakconnect without going through harddrake. Harddrake isn't too terrible useful on PPC anyway. Hi Stew, Sorry this is taking so long, but I've only got access to the machine 1 day per week. I've just noticed that when I start draknet from a console as root, I get the following message : Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.18-4mdkBOOT/modules.dep I've also noticed this error message on boot up of the machine. It turns out that something somewhere is telling the programs look in 2.4.18-4mdkBOOT whereas this doesn't actually exist at all. My question then is this : where can I change the path to the correct modules.dep file ? Do I have to use depmod and specify the path ? If so, how do I get that to work on every boot ? Alex. -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Le jeu 24/07/2003 à 14:51, Stew Benedict a écrit : Ahh, Seems we all overlooked the obvious. This is the core of all your various issues with network, sound etc. You're booting with the installer kernel (BOOT is the clue, although INSTALL would probably be better). Get the appropriate system kernel and initrd from the BootX folder on CD1 to boot the system. There are no modules for the install kernel installed on the system. It's only intended use is for the installer. When you say get, do you mean set via the BootX config panel, or do you mean copy the kernel and initrd from the CD1 on to the hard disk ? Or do I have to set the kernel boot options from within PPC via DrakConf ? In the BootX config panel, I can only choose to boot vmlinuz or vmlinuz 2.2, and if I choose RAMDISK, I have a choice of four possibilities, none of which correspond to the 2.4.18 kernel (unless I'm missing something obvious here). Alex. -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Le dim 20/07/2003 à 13:17, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit : On 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote: Internel ethernet on beige G3s is called bmac. That's odd. When I click on the configuration tool in the Hardware section of DrakConf, this is what it displays as the module, but the configuration tool that appears is the one used for configuring a sound card. Sounds (pardon the pun) like a bug ? Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Sound not working with 8.2 and OldWorld G3
Le dim 20/07/2003 à 13:37, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit : On 18 Jul 2003, Alex Thurgood wrote: Hi all, Sound doesn't seem to working or recognized by the installation of 8.2 on my G3 OldWorld. Any pointers, hints, etc ? I get the best results with ALSA, but I don't know if the version in the kernel you use is recent enough. You should probably upgrade to 9.1 ... just do: modprobe snd-pcm-oss modprobe snd-card-awacs modprobe snd-powermac OK, thanks, I'll try this out and see what happens. I don't really want to upgrade to 9.1 though, it took me long enough to get the 8.2 CDs from MandrakeSoft in the first place. Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Ethernet Card Recognition under PPC 8.2 on OldWorld G3
Hi all, it's me again, the Mac PPC newbie :-) Well I managed to follow Stew's advice and get the root password changed, and from there get the video card to display properly, so now I have a running X environment. So far so good. Unfortunately, the installation didn't manage to recognize my Ethernet hardware. I've tried playing with the network setup via DrakConf, and tried various modules that might have been possible with my G3 Beige OldWorld Mac, but none of them seem to work, and so no network conection as yet. I was wondering how I can get this information from somewhere on the Mac side. I've looked at the system information screens under MacOS9, but they tell me nothing, other than the protocols installed and the type and size of hard disk. I haven't managed to find any reference to the type of Ethernet hardware on board. Would anyone here know where to look, or what kind of module I should be trying to load via DrakConf (pref. with parameters, if any). TIA, Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
8.2 PPC CD1 and CD2 not recognized file systems
Hi, I'm trying to install more software via GRPMI, CUPS among others, from the official 8.2 CDs. However, when asked to insert the relevant CDs, it doesn't seem to recognize them and just keeps throwing open the CD player draw with a request to insert the appropriate CD. I've noticed that from the console, an error message is given that the file system type of the CD is incorrect. What does this mean ? Is there something wrong with my fstab config, or is there something wrong with the CDs ? Any help gratefully accepted. Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sound not working with 8.2 and OldWorld G3
Hi all, Sound doesn't seem to working or recognized by the installation of 8.2 on my G3 OldWorld. Any pointers, hints, etc ? Alex
Re: Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 19:11, Stew Benedict a écrit : Yes, exactly. If you install BootX into the system folder, you can set the default to either roll into MacOS or Linux, but you'll always be a bit of the way into MacOS before that happens. Ok, finally got it to install, but I now have two problems : 1) when you create the accounts initially, the keyboard is mapped with US style mappings (I think, but would anyone care to confirm), but when you reboot, the mappings are changed to the locale you have selected - in my case French, and now I can't for the life of me get into the root account (well I will be able to eventually, once I've found out where the keys I typed initially have been moved to) - aarrgh, frustration city !! 2) THe video config parameters didn't work, so init 5 doesn't get started. Of course, you need to be root to use XConfigurator or Drakconf. BTW, what's the difference between pmac and the supplied ATI driver module ? It appears that it didn't want to play with my ATI settings. TIA, Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Hi all, I'm trying to install PPC 8.2 from the Mandrake CDs on a beige G3. I've got 1.5 Gig free space on the disk drive, and 256 Mb ram. Although I've read the readme.html file in the doc folder on the CD, nothing I've tried so far has got the machine to boot from the CD. I've tried simply pressing and holding C after turning on the switch. I've tried Command-C, Alt-C, Command-Alt-C, Command-Ctrl-Alt-C : all to no avail, the hard disk just kicks in and boots OS9.2. I tried Command-O-F and that gives me an error message on my monitor screen saying SIGNAL OUT OF BOUNDS. I even tried installing the Mandrake Linux Install.sit file, from CD, or copying to disk and then starting. In both cases, I get the error message The application Mandrake Linux Install.sit can not be opened because an error of type -39 has occurred. I all out of ideas ? Any advice ? Alex -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 15:01, Christian Walther a écrit : I even tried installing the Mandrake Linux Install.sit file, from CD, or copying to disk and then starting. In both cases, I get the error message The application Mandrake Linux Install.sit can not be opened because an error of type -39 has occurred. The beige G3 is an Old World machine, which basically means it has a big ROM chip containing half of Mac OS, and some older version of the boot code that doesn't support booting non-Mac-OS directly. You have to use BootX to start Linux out of Mac OS. BootX is contained in the Mandrake Linux Install.sit archive. Due to a misconfiguration of the Linux program that created the CD, this file is marked as being an application, although it isn't - that's why you get the error message when you doubleclick it. Just drop it on StuffIt Expander to expand it. The AppleScript applet that should automate the BootX setup has some flaws too. Try it, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work - I recommend you configuring BootX by hand. I don't know the necessary options offhand, but if you have problems just ask and I'll look it up. Christian, Thanks for the advice, as I'm not a Mac expert, I wouldn't have known about the Stuffit problem. I'd already read the tutorial on the Mandrake site and guessed that I had an old world non CD-bootable system, but then that's where I got stuck with the sit file. Here I go... Alex
Re: Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 15:01, Christian Walther a écrit : The AppleScript applet that should automate the BootX setup has some flaws too. Try it, but don't be surprised if it doesn't work - I recommend you configuring BootX by hand. I don't know the necessary options offhand, but if you have problems just ask and I'll look it up. You were right about the install scripts, they didn't work. I started BootX and chose all.gz as the ramdisk, and set the value to 34000. The installation starts, asks for the install media, chose CDROM. THen the program starts to load from memory (as with the other MDK installs on other platforms), but when the graphical interface comes up for the install, the screen is corrupted : monochrome, huge text, buttons displaced, impossible to select anything. Is there a way around this other than via a text install ? Alex. -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 15:35, Alex Thurgood a écrit : You were right about the install scripts, they didn't work. I started BootX and chose all.gz as the ramdisk, and set the value to 34000. The installation starts, asks for the install media, chose CDROM. THen the program starts to load from memory (as with the other MDK installs on other platforms), but when the graphical interface comes up for the install, the screen is corrupted : monochrome, huge text, buttons displaced, impossible to select anything. Is there a way around this other than via a text install ? I'll reply to myself because I found out how, by ticking the don't use video driver box in BootX. I chose the Recommende option and well, the install went rather smoothly, but at the end, the installer told me that I couldn't use yaboot and that I'd have to use BootX instead. This is all very well, but where is BootX installed ? On my MacHFS partition or somewhere else ? When I try and start the Mac now, it just stops at the little smiling monitor. I don't get a choice of boot. I think my system's hosed. Advice, admonishments, etc, gratefully taken... Alex. -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Install PPC 8.2 on beige G3
Le ven 11/07/2003 à 17:28, Stew Benedict a écrit : Yes, BootX does all it's work from the MacOS side. kernels and initrd's for the installed system are provided. Did you delete your MacOS partition or something? Ah that would explain a lot. The obvious answer is that I did of course when I resized the partitions with the Drake utility (doh !!). Does this mean that I always have to boot into MacOS9 first before booting Linux ? I'm sorry if I appear a bit dim but I really haven't quite got the hang of this yet. I consequently reinstalled MacOS9 onto its own little partition and left the rest free with the Mac disk utility tool and am going to try again. Alex. -- Alex Thurgood [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Cooker] kernel versions
Steffen Barszus wrote: Maybe mm has highmem integrated ? Don't know. I think it would be worth to have the highmem patch in normal kernel, as it is not utopic to have 1 Gig of ram in a desktop with current prices. Seconded - my main box has 1Gb in it at the moment and the 9.1 UP kernel won't boot it properly. -- Alexander Hulse *-* Bespoke Web Development Systems Administration - www . amch . net - - [EMAIL PROTECTED] -
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality
- Original Message - From: Keld Jørn Simonsen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality Hi!I have just been to a MS marketing seesion for their Windows Server 2003and one of the few key selling points there is the volume shadowing feature. This is a way to find deleted files, or older versions offiles (eg if you accidentially deleted some of the contents.)I would like to see that kind of functionality also in mdk 9.2.It seems nice to have. What I think one could do is to reserve some space for backups.Then one cron job could be run to make backups every day, or everyhour or so. Backups should not be taken of system files that are notchanged. Backups should be compressed and could be diffs. When space is being tight some older versions should be deleted,but maybe the original should be kept. Some excludsion list should beavailable.There should then be a utility and gui to find older versions of a file, given a specific file path. Users should be able to restoreonly their own files. That is, the gui should be the normal filebrowsing gui, whatever that be.Is there such a system for Linux and is it already in MDK?Best regardskeld
Re: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality
oops, I accidentally sent a blank message. anyway, I think the file shadow idea is a really good idea, It could be integrated into drakbackup,, and set to run automatically. - Alex Please ignore the MSN email address, i'm a Linux user, I swear -- i have to mount partitions, build kernels, and fight through version dependancies just like everyone else! :) - Original Message - From: Keld Jørn Simonsen To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:15 AM Subject: [Cooker] wish for mdk 9.2: file shadow functionality Hi!I have just been to a MS marketing seesion for their Windows Server 2003and one of the few key selling points there is the volume shadowing feature. This is a way to find deleted files, or older versions offiles (eg if you accidentially deleted some of the contents.)I would like to see that kind of functionality also in mdk 9.2.It seems nice to have. What I think one could do is to reserve some space for backups.Then one cron job could be run to make backups every day, or everyhour or so. Backups should not be taken of system files that are notchanged. Backups should be compressed and could be diffs. When space is being tight some older versions should be deleted,but maybe the original should be kept. Some excludsion list should beavailable.There should then be a utility and gui to find older versions of a file, given a specific file path. Users should be able to restoreonly their own files. That is, the gui should be the normal filebrowsing gui, whatever that be.Is there such a system for Linux and is it already in MDK?Best regardskeld
Setting the clock
Silly question, but how do I set the clock on the computer. I have tried hwclock, but I get an error saying "unable to open /dev/adb read/write : : No such file or directory" Also, ntpd doesn't seem to work. I have servers configured, but the time never changes. Also, it there a way to display the time ? My battery is dead so the clock defaults to 1956, which is obviously wrong. I just need the computer to get the correct time when it boots and maybe sync it every once in a while. Thanks, AH
Re: Setting the clock
OK, fist, no X on this machine, it is strictly a router with CLI. Second, got ntpdate to work, so I now have the correct time. I think I can do it this way, if someone can help me on how to program it. use ntpdate to set the clock BEFORE loading ntpd, otherwise ntpdate will fail saying that the ntp socket is already in use. Question is, where should i put the command for ntpdate so it gets executed (preferably right after the internet stuff is loaded) before ntpd ? Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Quentin Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 6:53 PM Subject: Re: Setting the clock Hi, Remember that ntp does not like changing the clock by very much -- it is designed to correct a small difference in frequencies, not huge jumps. If it crashes and the time is wrong by more than ~5mins it will NOT sort you out. In KDE a right-click on the time will give you an option [for root] to change the time. I believe that date can be used to set the time, but I have to look up the syntax every time. I thought that ntp would correct a jump during the boot sequence, if not then try /usr/sbin/ntpdate server; OR rdate -s server followed by hwclock --systohc to do the trick. Once you have ntp setup it is worth checking the quality of your time with /usr/sbin/ntptrace. Quentin. If you have always on internet, you could consider installing a ntp client. Installing the rpm should either create, or set permissions for the clock so that you can access it at a later point, or have it execute on connect to your ppp account. - Original Message - From: Alex Horvath To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 4:42 PM Subject: Setting the clock Silly question, but how do I set the clock on the computer. I have tried hwclock, but I get an error saying unable to open /dev/adb read/write : : No such file or directory Also, ntpd doesn't seem to work. I have servers configured, but the time never changes. Also, it there a way to display the time ? My battery is dead so the clock defaults to 1956, which is obviously wrong. I just need the computer to get the correct time when it boots and maybe sync it every once in a while. Thanks, AH
DHCP questions
hi all, first, PPC 8500 w/ 2 nic, eth0 net, eth1 loc. not quite at routing yet, still trying to set up dhcp. First thing, I have dhclient working, and it can get an address from my current router192.168.0.1 (it grabs 192.168.0.238). If I disconnect it (i.e. halt the machine, disconnect the cable) then plug in the cable from my cable modem, Ican't get an address. dhclient works,it sends outDHCPDISCOVER, and it gets a DHCPOFFER back fromthe isp, but ittimes out andsays that no offers were recieved. Any ideas on that one ? Also, I havedhcpd installed, andam trying to get thecomputer to be a dhcp server on eth1 (internal). I set up the dhcpd.conf file, and it says that it is listening, but when I try torequest an address from another computer, it times out.The client is running win2k and I am using ipconfig /renew. This client can renew from another linux box on another network. Again, any ideas? Thanks, AH
Install parameters
Stew, RC1, trying to do an FTP install. PowerComputing Powercentre 120, 112MB RAM, 2GB HD, onboard net. First, I can't even get the installer to work properly unless I specify root=/dev/ram3 second, if I do that, I get corrupted video. Third, if I put install-text before or after the root command, the installer won't work properly (it complains about the FS being read only) Any ideas ?
Re: Keeping up to date
Bob, thanks, I have a couple of questions: First, how far back can you update from ? I have 8.2 would it be advisable to update to cooker ? Also, how do I do a local synchronize ? I have an FTP server, and would like to keep a current version if possible. Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Bob Sloots [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 6:28 PM Subject: RE: Keeping up to date Alex, You can add a mirror as source for urpmi-updates, you could use following mirror: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/os/Linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/ppc/Mand rake/RPMS with ../base as hdlist-location. After defining a new source (using rpmdrake or urpmi.addsource) you can update your local urpmi-database with: urpmi.update source-name (for instance: urpmi.update Cooker) and after that: urpmi --auto-select and everything installed on your machine is updated. Unfortunately the mirrors are not 100% consistent, so some missing packages you have to download from Stew's webspace (http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~sbenedict/cooker-ppc) and install manually (using rpm -Uvh ... (maybe also using --nodeps)) Personally I synchronize nightly to my own (local) ftp-server, and update the day after (after creating new hdlist-file). Bob (not Stew) -Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Alex Horvath Verzonden: woensdag 12 maart 2003 23:51 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Keeping up to date Stew, I installed Cooker Beta 2, and would like to know how to keep it current (I assume that there are incremental builds between ISOs). Can you give me a play-by-play on how to keep the system up to date ? I have seem URPMI on the lists, along with some talk of mirrors, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with them. Also, could you post the recommended system requirements for 9 ? I'm trying to use it on older machines (604s with 64 or 96MB ram). Thanks, AH
Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige
Stew, how difficult would it be to add hfs or FAT32 support to the installer so you could install off a hard disk in the machine ? I currently use FTP install, but it would be a lot faster to d/l the ISO, mount it, copy the files to the local drive and install from there. Just a though. BTW, thanks for the info on URPMI - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: cooker-ppc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2003 8:49 AM Subject: Re: Nightmare installation on G3 beige Stew Benedict ha scritto: On Sun, 16 Mar 2003, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is no seperate installer for Old World machines. don't use the kernel, nor all.gz in the .sit file, use the ones in /boot. I had not yet updated the .sit file in RC1 (notice everything reference 8.2?). Ok. Lost time, so :-( - No other kernel in the disk can recognize my cd drive (only the old kernel) - no other kernel recognize the hfs partition to install directly from HD after a copy of the distribution Never has been able to install from hfs, afaik. Yes, you're right: this option was possible with YDL kernel I was able to CD install on a 7600, after loading mesh. Loading? Uh, oh, have you loaded something? During the process install, the only loaded thing is: INSMOD FAILED, retry? Oh yeah, retry, retry... None modules can be loaded with the default kernel and his ramdisk :-( Anyway, my Cd drive is IDE... Ok, thanks for your answer, Stew.
Keeping up to date
Stew, I installed Cooker Beta 2, and would like to know how to keep it current (I assume that there are incremental builds between ISOs). Can you give me a play-by-play on how to keep the system up to date ? I have seem URPMI on the lists, along with some talk of mirrors, but I don't know what I'm supposed to do with them. Also, could you post the recommended system requirements for 9 ? I'm trying to use it on older machines (604s with 64 or 96MB ram). Thanks, AH
Re: Crash on install
Stew, Added another 32MB ram an it seems fixed. New problem now, not major, but something to look into. The Powercomputing has an onboard ATI card, and the graphical install runs, but the screen is shifted 50% to the left, so the left side of the monitor shows the middle of the picture, and it wrpas around to the right side. Installer still works, just a little goofy lookin'. Again, any ideas ? AH - Original Message - From: Alex Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2003 8:40 PM Subject: Crash on install Hi All, Trying to install mdk-ppc 9.1b2 on my PowerComputing Powercenter 150. Config as follows: PPC 604/150 64MB RAM 2GB SCSI HDD, 100MB HFS, 1.8GB Root, 128MB Swap Onboard video Onboard LAN (mace) Onboard SCSI (mesh I think) I'm doing an FTP install from another machine, and am using bootx with vmlinux and all.gz from the cooker boot folder, with a ramdisk size of 36000. I can boot the installer fine, install the mace driver, get dhcp, connect to the FTP, download the second stage install, but then it crashes. here is the message that is displayed: in second stage install Oops: kernel access of bad area, sig: 11 Then a bunch of numbers that I don't feel like typing (but I will if it will help 8-) install exited abnormally :-( -- received signal 11 Any ideas ? Also, I have the two ISOs mounted as two separate drive letters, how do I get the installer to find the second CD ? Thanks, AH
[Cooker] No documentation in /usr/share/doc
I dont know if this is directly related to cooker, so i thought i'd ask anyway. I just installed mandrake_doc-en-9.1-0.4mdk, and after it finished installing, i went to click o nthe new entry in kdemenudocumentation. konqueror says that the file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/index.html doesn't exist. When i browse to that directory, there are no files, just folders. I also discovered that this is the same for EVERY folder under /usr/share/doc. Also, there is no help entries for any KDE app, KHelpCenter just says 'The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation.' .ALLLSOOO, there are NO man entries for ANYTHING on here. I imagine i'll have to reinstall, I just want to make sure thats the case before I go do anything big. Any ideas? I'm running all the latest cooker rpms as of Feb 25. kdebase 3.1-50 libqt3 3.1.1-12 -- __ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with e-mail forwarding for only US$5.95/yr Powered by Outblaze
[Cooker] No documentation in /usr/share/doc
I dont know if this is directly related to cooker, so i thought i'd ask anyway. I just installed mandrake_doc-en-9.1-0.4mdk, and after it finished installing, i went to click o nthe new entry in kdemenudocumentation. konqueror says that the file /usr/share/doc/mandrake/en/index.html doesn't exist. When i browse to that directory, there are no files, just folders. I also discovered that this is the same for EVERY folder under /usr/share/doc. Also, there is no help entries for any KDE app, KHelpCenter just says 'The requested help file could not be found. Check that you have installed the documentation.' .ALLLSOOO, there are NO man entries for ANYTHING on here. I imagine i'll have to reinstall, I just want to make sure thats the case before I go do anything big. Any ideas? I'm running all the latest cooker rpms as of Feb 25. kdebase 3.1-50 libqt3 3.1.1-12 -- __ http://www.linuxmail.org/ Now with e-mail forwarding for only US$5.95/yr Powered by Outblaze
Install 8.2 PPC on a 3400C
Hi everyone, I've finally managed to get my copy of 8.2 PPC sent to me after 4 months wait, you can tell things are bad at Mandrakesoft eh ? Now I need to try and install it, but the only problem is, I don't have a CDROM drive (and can't get one). I presume it must be possible to install it some other way on my 3400C Mac ? FTP, Boot diskette then FTP ? Although I've installed various flavours of Mandrake on x86 architectures, I have absolutely no experience with Macs whatsoever, so please don't flame me for asking any dumb questions that might seem obvious. I see from the current discussions that people are experimenting with the latest 9.1 cooker, but I'd like to try my hand at 8.2 first. Any hints ? BTW, the MAC only has 48 MB RAM and 1.9 Gb disk space free. Will that be sufficient to install a workstation and network client access, a graphical desktop or two etc, etc ? TIA, Alex THurgood
Re: Alive?
Le ven 03/01/2003 à 21:38, Rick Thomas a écrit : I signed up for Mandrake Club Silver membership and my credit card was charged (almost immediately) on December 22nd. It's been well over a week and I've heard nothing from Mandrake about a nickname or password. Has anybody else had this experience? Are Mandrake so short of cash that they can't even process new memberships? Rick I might add that I preordered my copy of MDK 9.0 and a discount 8.2PPC from Mandrake via it's web site prior to the European release date. I've still as yet to receive anything from Mandrakesoft, despite a telephone conversation with the French Finance Director and e-mail assurances that my order would be dealt with promptly, and that I would be entitled to 6 months free membership. Needless to say, when I received their e-mail asking for cash to support development or to upgrade my membership status I responded with a not too friendly e-mail. I have always been a fond supporter and buyer of Mandrake products, but I must say that this was the last straw as far as I am concerned. A company that can not keep its promises to paying customers does not deserve my continued custom. It's a shame as I wanted to try out the PPC on my firm's Macs, essentially to effect the transition from MSOffice to OpenOffice.org. Never mind, looks like it's going to be YellowDog or something similar. Alex
Re: X Font error
Stew, I had this configuration working before. Could you please list what I should have for bootx and in linux ? I currently have the following setup: bootx root=/dev/sdb7 ramdisk size 4096 ramdisk macos/system folder/linux kernels/initrd... How do I build an initrd that will work ? - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 13:29 Subject: Re: X Font error On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All. installed mdk-ppc 8.2 from ISOs, and I have a couple of problems. 1st, major, sice i can't do much now: When I try to start X, I get the following error: Fatal server error Could not open default font 'fixed' sound like xfs is not running XIO fatal IO error 104 (connection reser by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 processed) with 0 events remaining. -- X worked fine, but it crashed and when I rebooted I got this error. Also, I am tring to boot off a 2940UW, and I get a no init found if I use it. if I plug the drives in to the onboard scsi, they boot no problem. The kernels in the boot folder have the same names as those on the CD, are they different with the same names, or the same. If they are different, I think copying the CD one over will fix the problem. Not the kernel, initrd. You need one with the proper modules for that controller in it. Are you booting from BootX? If so, you need to build an initrd on the Linux side and get it over to MacOS. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
Re: X Font error
Stew, It was the X Font Server. I disabled it by accident in linuxconf. X Works fine now. Next problem, I installed the Mandrake Internet Connection Sharing server, and it works. i need to know a couple of things though: is there a firewall installed by default ? where would I find the script for it if there is one, and if not, how would you recommend adding one (I have a cople of scripts that I can use, I just don't know where to add them) Also, I need port forwarding for a couple of ports (vnc and FTP first of all), how do i add this functionality ? Is there a graphical tool for this ? Thanks, and merry Christmas! AH - Original Message - From: Alex Horvath [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2002 17:10 Subject: Re: X Font error Stew, I had this configuration working before. Could you please list what I should have for bootx and in linux ? I currently have the following setup: bootx root=/dev/sdb7 ramdisk size 4096 ramdisk macos/system folder/linux kernels/initrd... How do I build an initrd that will work ? - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2002 13:29 Subject: Re: X Font error On Wed, 25 Dec 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All. installed mdk-ppc 8.2 from ISOs, and I have a couple of problems. 1st, major, sice i can't do much now: When I try to start X, I get the following error: Fatal server error Could not open default font 'fixed' sound like xfs is not running XIO fatal IO error 104 (connection reser by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 processed) with 0 events remaining. -- X worked fine, but it crashed and when I rebooted I got this error. Also, I am tring to boot off a 2940UW, and I get a no init found if I use it. if I plug the drives in to the onboard scsi, they boot no problem. The kernels in the boot folder have the same names as those on the CD, are they different with the same names, or the same. If they are different, I think copying the CD one over will fix the problem. Not the kernel, initrd. You need one with the proper modules for that controller in it. Are you booting from BootX? If so, you need to build an initrd on the Linux side and get it over to MacOS. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
X Font error
Hi All. installed mdk-ppc 8.2 from ISOs, and I have a couple of problems. 1st, major, sice i can't do much now: When I try to start X, I get the following error: Fatal server error Could not open default font 'fixed' XIO fatal IO error 104 (connection reser by peer) on X server :0.0 after 0 requests (0 processed) with 0 events remaining. -- X worked fine, but it crashed and when I rebooted I got this error. Also, I am tring to boot off a 2940UW, and I get a no init found if I use it. if I plug the drives in to the onboard scsi, they boot no problem. The kernels in the boot folder have the same names as those on the CD, are they different with the same names, or the same. If they are different, I think copying the CD one over will fix the problem. Thanks, AH
Re: [Cooker] MDK vs. Knoppix Auto Detection/Configuration
On Sunday 08 December 2002 12:38, James Sparenberg wrote: On Sun, 2002-12-08 at 01:37, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: I agree completely. What lacks sorely in XFree86, IMHO, is the fallback mechanism - if this driver doesn't work, use another driver, and if nothing works, use some worst case default ( 640x480 generic VGA driver or VESA FB driver for videocard, autoprobe for mice). As in (cough) Windows. Anyway, it is pretty hard these days to find EGA card or (cough) CGA card. This is also a position that could help when say replacing a blown video card. Many is the time that once I got something working, and could then adjust from there, to get a nice product. For ex-windytes (windows users) the ability to limp into a visible mode and then properly adjust with MCC would be a really big help when changing hardware etc. Yes, and not only that. My wet dream for successful Linux desktop is XFree86 not needing configuration file at all - i.e it should use one if it finds it, but if it finds nothing, then it should be as follows : - Video card is autoprobed, if the suitable driver found, it is used, or generic VESA, or generic VGA. - Mice are autoprobed, all mice found are used. And about mice : Why should one re-run XFdrake anew or manually change XF86Config-4 if all he does is just replace some PS/2 mouse with some new USB mouse? IMHO, mice should be autoprobed. OTOH, if XF86Config-4 contains mouse definition, it should be used, but if it is incorrect, it should be considered omitted, warning should be issued, and mice should be autoprobed. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] Recent XFree86 and antialiased fonts - works once yes, once no.
I've recently updated my system to the newest XFree86 and now the freshly updated RENDER extension works once yes, once no - the same KDE application may start with aliased fonts and may start with antialiased fonts. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] Non-standard connections - is that ever going to be handled byMandrake configuration tools and couple of other problems
Half a year ago I've switched from ADSL to cable Internet connection ( the telephone company proclaimed that it was still impossible to provide ADSL to our new neighborhood). The Internet provider has decided to go for some mixed connection scheme - not only DHCP, but DHCP and then VPN, login and such. To my big surprise, there were BIG problems with Linux to connect such a way. * As the connection is DHCP based, DHCPed interface takes ( and rightfully) the default route, and then there are two problems : - PPPD refuses to replace the default route and has to be forced - In case the default route via PPP is forced, the network is dead, as the route to PPTP server goes via the PPP device. So one has to define manually some dedicated route to PPTP server ( and its IP address changed several times in my case, but its name remained the same, go do some tricks defining such a route), and then force the default route to go via PPP device. Windows client does all that automatically. I don't imagine telling some Windows literate Linux newbie over the phone how to configure such connection in Linux. I can easily imagine telling somebody Windows-literate how to configure such connection in Windows. It has taken me about a couple of minutes to reconfigure my connection from ADSL one to mixed cable one in Windows - DHCP instead of static here, PPTP server name, username and password there. Finished. * There is NO WAY to define such 'PPTP over DHCP' connection in DrakConnect. It's either PPTP-ADSL ( i.e PPTP to hardcodedly 10.0.0.138, instead of JUST ASKING the server name/IP), or standard DHCP cable. NO WAY IN HELL to define some VPN connection graphically. Why? For me, there is no problem to define such connection manually - after I discovered the routing problem described above. It has taken several days till I succeeded to connect - and I've played a lot in the past with routing and such, both in Linux and in Windows ( oh, this route command in NT 4...). Compare a couple of minutes to several days. Compare filling several fields in dialog window ( the same dialog window for ANY VPN connection, ADSL, cable, some other, don't know what) to editing /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/ip-up.local ( for the routing problem). Linux conquering the desktop? Mandrake REALLY easy to use? NO and ONCE MORE NO until ALL SUCH LITTLE PROBLEMS ARE WORKED OUT. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Propositions for rpmdrake
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 05:17, daniel beck wrote: rpmdrake and urpmi is really a nice add value. Its allmost the main raison, why I use mandrake . There are a few things, I thing, that could be nice to implement - the pop pups from rpmdrake are after all not *so* bad, and they are in fact easy to understand. but, then downloading softare from plf, there are allways lots of poppups, and I must stay in front of the monitor, and allway click : yes, I want to install (I know, its because I didn't downloaded the key...). But would be nice to have a : yes for all button. Just rpmdrake --no-verify-rpm. rpmdrake --help should give you the options. But when, o when, will they finally learn? Why not put some Not verify RPMs button INTO THE GUI? Why not back EACH command line option ( there are not many ) with some GUI configuration dialog? - then I update software from cooker, and one package failed, I have to start all again. Ok, its nice that the package are stored in /var/cache, but it would be even nicer if, then i download 2 softare A and B, and the download from software A fails, Software B has nothing to do with A (no dependencies), that urpmi installs Software A Completely right here. And more : - urpmi supports --force and --allow-force options, which do just what you requested - ignore non-existing packages, and ignore dependencies. When will this be supported in rpmdrake? Both in command line options and in GUI? - if the download failed because of, say, overloaded FTP mirror and user decides not to continue, all the packages are erased and the selection list is reset. Go click all the packages anew. - FTP access denied. Continue without or cancel? What the hell? And why not Retry some more times or Retry infinitely too? - Package downloading progress is shown in some nice graphical progress window, why the source update progress is still shown in the console, its failures and all that? When will they learn that in case of GUI, output to the console is an EXCEPTION rather than a rule? And what if the user runs rpmdrake from the menu and not from a terminal? There would be no immediately visible console in that case. When will they understand that GUI is to EASE work, not to harden it? And why do I personally recently prefer pure urpmi ? Because of such underdeveloped GUIs. - I want to be able to acces with urpmi mirrors, which are protected with username/passwort (or does that already work?) ook, bye ! daniel __ Gesendet von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Möchten Sie mit einem Gruß antworten? http://grusskarten.yahoo.de -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: 8.2-cooker
Stew, where do you get the files to update ? I see you reference a file://, do I donwload files from somewhere using MacOS and put them in a directory that can be read by linux ? or do i download them in linux ? Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 07:16 Subject: 8.2-cooker In the process of trying to debug why the new 9.0 based installer is stalling out at loading stage2 on the resurrected 7600 machine, I decided to do a clean 8.2 install and urpmi it to cooker. Although 1 pass of --auto-select failed, I was able to do it in just a few steps, and now it's running cooker. urpmi.addmedia cooker file://mnt/disk/Mandrake/RPMS urpmi.removemedia CD 1 Cooker (cdrom1) urpmi.removemedia CD 2 Cooker (cdrom2) urpmi glibc urpmi perl-base urpmi perl-base rpmdrake grpmi urpmi kdebase urpmi kernel (Since this is an OldWorld machine, I had to ftp the kernel and initrd to another machine to get it on the MacOS side for booting. Also, since mesh and mac53c94 are integrated in recent kernels, I had to remove the references to them in /etc/modules.conf so mkinitrd would run without error) urpmi --auto-select (I was asked to make one choice of libgnomeprint2-2_0-2.1.1-1mdk.ppc.rpm vs libgnomeprint2.0_0-1.116.0-2mdk.ppc.rpm. I chose the 2nd, as the first pass of auto-select I tried I had picked the first and it failed. In reality only one of these should be available, my repository needs some cleaning. This auto-select too some time, over 300 packages, and the makedev process took quite a long time, so you need to be patient here.) urpmi --auto-select (This 2nd pass was just for good measure and ended up loading the first of the 2 libgnomeprint packages listed above). urpmi openssh-server (So I could log in and write this, after setting up my new kernel and initrd in BootX). [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.19-19mdk ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.2 (Mandrake Linux 9.1 3.2-3mdk)) #1 Mon Nov 11 18:19:54 EST 2002 [root@pm7600 root]# cat /proc/cpuinfo cpu : 604 clock : 132MHz revision: 3.5 (pvr 0004 0305) bogomips: 263.78 machine : Power Macintosh motherboard : AAPL,7500 MacRISC detected as : 16 (PowerMac 7500) pmac flags : L2 cache: 256K unified memory : 160MB pmac-generation : OldWorld KDE3 is not exactly a pleasure to run on this machine, but it does come up. The frozen adb mouse in kdm we had in 8.2 is also gone. In all cooker-ppc is quite usable at the moment, if anyone wants to give it a whirl. The safest thing, of course, if you need your machine for work etc., would be to do a 2nd 8.2 install and upgrade that one to cooker, so you could fall back on the original 8.2 install should you need to. HTH, Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
[Cooker] New cooker package of koffice - where are the /usr/lib/menu/* files?
Now koffice apps just refuse to run - their desktop files are invalid. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] New cooker package of koffice - where are the/usr/lib/menu/* files?
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 21:07, Tibor Pittich wrote: On 19. nov 2002 20:57, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: Now koffice apps just refuse to run - their desktop files are invalid. these menu file are missing. only kchart is present in /usr/lib/menu I know that they are missing, the question is rather why are these files missing? :-) Sorry for not expressing myself so well. $ rpm -ql koffice-1.2-9mdk | grep menu /usr/lib/menu/koffice-kchart -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] New cooker package of koffice - where are the/usr/lib/menu/* files?
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 23:57, Tibor Pittich wrote: On 19. nov 2002 21:41, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Tuesday 19 November 2002 21:07, Tibor Pittich wrote: On 19. nov 2002 20:57, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: Now koffice apps just refuse to run - their desktop files are invalid. these menu file are missing. only kchart is present in /usr/lib/menu I know that they are missing, the question is rather why are these files missing? :-) Sorry for not expressing myself so well. maybe, only first kdedesktop2mdkmenu.pl script create properly menu file, and, this is coincidence koffice-kchart. It's never late to learn. I didn't even know that this script exists :-) .. and, you can, as you know, run any koffice application through command line;) apps isn't refuse to run :-) They refuse to run from command line, that's a point : [alex@linux SPECS]$kchart [1] 12609 [alex@linux SPECS]$ kio (KTrader): KServiceTypeProfile::offers( KOfficePart, ) kio (KTrader): Returning 2 offers kchart: Constructor started! kchart: InitDOC That's for kchart. And now for kword : [alex@linux SPECS]$ kword [1] 12624 [alex@linux SPECS]$ koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: .hidden/kword.desktop: no X-KDE-NativeMimeType entry! koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's desktop file. Check your installation ! [1]+ Exit 1 kword P.S I tried to create the /usr/lib/menu entry for this beast, and kword runs. Thanks. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker-PPC] Installing Java
How do i install java on Mandrake-ppc ? I got the .bin file, but reading the installation readme says that it has only been tested on i586 systems. Any suggestions ? Thanks, AH
[Cooker-PPC] FORCING numlock on ALL THE TIME!
How does one do this, if possible ? AH
Re: [Cooker] Me Too: Lost AA Outright broken postscript generationre Hebrew
On Friday 15 November 2002 04:50, R. Scott Chevalley wrote: yes, libqt3 is not linked to any of the libXft.so versions. I'm using the xft2 patched b2.4 and it's working okay. I don't have the patience to recompile the new rpms with the patch.. I'm just hoping it's fixed soon... :) The QT configure script just isn't able to detect neither the include files for Xft nor the Xft2 library. Several changes here and there, and it works. The Postscript generation for Hebrew fonts is OUTRIGHT BROKEN, too. The fonts are just not embedded correctly, and ghostscript just shows squares instead of characters, whether font embedding is turned on or off. When font embedding is on, only Verdana font gets embedded instead of all the fonts used in the document, and Hebrew glyphs are just NOT EMBEDDED at all. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker-PPC] Mounting an HFS partition at boot
No, I want it RW - Original Message - From: Bob Sloots [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 4:27 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Mounting an HFS partition at boot On Sunday 10 November 2002 17:42, you wrote: Hi All. Funny thing. I have a MacOS partition that I want to mount, /dev/sdb6. I have a directory in /mnt , and if I type mount -t hfs /dev/sdb6 /mnt/mac-100 it works. I have the following in my fstab and it fails: /dev/sdb6 /mnt/mac-100 hfs r 0 0 do you mean option RO (read-only) instead of the R? Bob.
Re: [Cooker] Printing Hebrew text - regression
On Saturday 09 November 2002 12:23, Eyal Ben-David wrote: Hi, I think latest changes in printer-drivers broke Hebrew text printing. I see squares instead of hebrew characters. Can someone check and confirm? The same here. The problem is either in Ghostscript or in QT embedding of PostScript fonts Thanks Eyal. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] [not urgent] - controls centers reflexion
On Saturday 09 November 2002 21:40, Florent BERANGER wrote: KDE control center have more and more fonctionnalities each days (X configuration with kxconfig, lilo configuration, camera configuration, keyboard layout, power control, hardware infos, network config,...). A day, we'll have 2 control centers in KDE environment, not 100% interoperables/compatibles (they will not configure thinks as same). kxconfig doesn't configure display as drakXres for exemple. It's a little bad for usability to have 2 controls center (confusions,...) It's not bad to have even 4 control centers, as long as they are fully interoperable - i.e all of them use the same files to keep configuration in etc. The problem is that they aren't interoperable. What can be do (now or in future) : - lets things as this, it works mostly, it's not top for usability but it's not bad / 2 or more control centers, that's greet, the user will choose he's prefered one in his prefered environment. - delete tools as kxconfig in KDEcontrolcenter- KDE control center configure only KDE things. MCC control center will configure all others things. Is keyboard layout editor KDE specific thing or not? And KDM configuration module? - modify tools for entire compatibility/interoperability (if they don't)- good luck ;). It's the right way, IMHO. - replace tools as kxconfig, lilo config in kde control center by Mdk's one - Mdk's tools integration in KDE control center. MCC'll be keept (if user is in another environment or if he want to use it because he prefer it)- the configuration center icon in launch bar launch KDE control center in kde (kdecontrol center will be the default control center in kde), MCC in another desktop environment. It's my prefered issue (I like MCC but it could be better for usability- all configuration in the same control center in KDE, the top for usability and it's always the same tools who are used in each environments (Mdk's ones)). MDK has explicitly declared that drak* are GUI-agnostic and are not supposed to integrate neither into KDE Control Center nor into Gnome Control Center nor into any other environment-specific control center. IMHO, it's a very big mistake and they should integrate. Thanks to have read all ;) Florent -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] kxkb configuration - has anybody got it working it KDE 3.1 rc2?
Keyboard layout editor just disappeared from KDE control center, and 'Configure' of kxkb just plainly doesn't work - nothing appears. What happens? -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker-PPC] What other mouse types, not IMPS/2
Title: Re: Mouse Problems what other protocols are available, other than IMPS/2 ? Thanks, AH
Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode
Stew, I wiped out my 2+3 button mappings. Could you give me the config lines and the file they are from so I can get them back ? Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:37 AM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Could it have something to do with my mouse ? If I try to change it from inside X, using the control centre, the display blanks, then when it comes back, it gives me an error about IMPS2 not being a correct mode. Any other ideas ? IMPS2 should be valid, although in the XConfig it's written IMPS/2. Here's a snippet of mine, altered by using mousedrake: Section InputDevice Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option Protocol IMPS/2 Option Device /dev/usbmouse Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 EndSection I'm using both the Powerbook trackpad and a wheeled Logitech USB mouse. You should be aware that mousedrake isn't PPC savvy, and will wipe out your 2nd, 3rd button emulations for you :(. Even a bad mouseconfig shouldn't be giving you signal 11. That's a fairly severe error: SIGSEGV 11 CoreInvalid memory reference You can readily eliminate the mouse from your troubleshooting by using: startx -- -allowMouseOpenFail Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode
Stew, the error I get from Mandrake Control Center is: (EE)Mouse1: Unknown protocol imps2 (EE) Preinit failed for input device Mouse1 Also, of I use /dev/usbmouse, the mouse stops working. I'm currently using /dev/input/mice. If I add a modeline from the site, it gives me a Signal 11, if I comment it out, x starts fine. Funny thing is, the modeline I add is for 1024x768, and the default resolution is 800x600, so it shouldn't even look at it until I try to change the res with xfdrake. I'll keep working at it. - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17 Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! Hi Alan, I saw this earlier. It's odd that trying different resolutions would cause a signal 11. Normally X would just exit saying it couldn't do that resolution or fall back to a lower one. The server certainly is capable of it, I run 1024x768 on all my machines. Sometimes if your horizontal or vertical frequency range limit is too narrow, the X server may think it can't achieve the desired resolution, but still it shouldn't generate a signal 11. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
Stefan Mintier
Stefan, in the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, in the InputDevice Mouse1 section, change dev/usbmouse to dev'input/mice See Stew's previous email for the key mapping code for 2nd and 3rd buttons. Thanks Stew!!! AH - Original Message - From: Stefan Mintier [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 2:12 PM Subject: Alex Horvath Alex I too have a UMAX s900 and have had trouble with configuring my adb mouse among other things. I was wondering if I could correspond with you about configuring my machine? my E-mail address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you very much for your time Stefan --
Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode
Stew, This is interesting. Found out by studying the log file that 4MB isn't enough to do 1024x768 @ 24bit colour. Fine, changed the default colour to 16. I can do 1024x768 @ millions of colours (24bit) on the MacOS. I had added a few 1024x768 modelines. X started, but it flickered on and off, like it couldn't sync. So I REM'd all but one of the 1024x768 modelines. X wouldn't start. UnREM'd another one, it started. It seems X needs at least 2 modelines for each resolution, even if the two are the same. Fine. I tried a bunch of different modelines with different refresh rates, and each one gave me the same result: a screen that jitters because it can't sync to the card. It works perfectly in the MacOS. I noticed that some of the Mac modes have +- hsync and vsync, so I tried playing with those, but it didn't help. The logfile confirms that X is using the modeline I specified, so I know it's not just picking a mode form thin air. Is there something I'm missing ? I can't figure this out. Also, even in the 800x600 mode, it will start to flicker after about 10 minutes. If i switch to text mode and back, it clears itself for another 10 minutes. I don't know what to do anymore. Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Stew, the error I get from Mandrake Control Center is: (EE)Mouse1: Unknown protocol imps2 (EE) Preinit failed for input device Mouse1 Also, of I use /dev/usbmouse, the mouse stops working. I'm currently using /dev/input/mice. The default install should look like this for usb or adb mice: [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls -l /dev/mouse lr-xr-xr-x1 root root8 Oct 26 08:25 /dev/mouse - usbmouse [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls -l /dev/usbmouse lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 10 Oct 26 08:25 /dev/usbmouse - input/mice If I add a modeline from the site, it gives me a Signal 11, if I comment it out, x starts fine. Funny thing is, the modeline I add is for 1024x768, and the default resolution is 800x600, so it shouldn't even look at it until I try to change the res with xfdrake. Sounds like the modeline isn't valid then. There are already several 1024x768 modelines in the file ( I count 4 here), plus the X server in in many case capable of working this out itself, you just add a resolution entry: Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection I'll keep working at it. - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17 Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! Hi Alan, I saw this earlier. It's odd that trying different resolutions would cause a signal 11. Normally X would just exit saying it couldn't do that resolution or fall back to a lower one. The server certainly is capable of it, I run 1024x768 on all my machines. Sometimes if your horizontal or vertical frequency range limit is too narrow, the X server may think it can't achieve the desired resolution, but still it shouldn't generate a signal 11. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2 Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
[Cooker-PPC] ATI XClaim VR Modelines
If anyone is using an xclaim vr at 1024x768@75Hz, could you please send your modeline for it ? Thanks, AH - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 8:07 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Tue, 5 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Stew, the error I get from Mandrake Control Center is: (EE)Mouse1: Unknown protocol imps2 (EE) Preinit failed for input device Mouse1 Also, of I use /dev/usbmouse, the mouse stops working. I'm currently using /dev/input/mice. The default install should look like this for usb or adb mice: [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls -l /dev/mouse lr-xr-xr-x1 root root8 Oct 26 08:25 /dev/mouse - usbmouse [stew@powerbook stew]$ ls -l /dev/usbmouse lr-xr-xr-x1 root root 10 Oct 26 08:25 /dev/usbmouse - input/mice If I add a modeline from the site, it gives me a Signal 11, if I comment it out, x starts fine. Funny thing is, the modeline I add is for 1024x768, and the default resolution is 800x600, so it shouldn't even look at it until I try to change the res with xfdrake. Sounds like the modeline isn't valid then. There are already several 1024x768 modelines in the file ( I count 4 here), plus the X server in in many case capable of working this out itself, you just add a resolution entry: Subsection Display Depth 24 Modes 1024x768 800x600 640x480 ViewPort 0 0 EndSubsection I'll keep working at it. - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17 Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! Hi Alan, I saw this earlier. It's odd that trying different resolutions would cause a signal 11. Normally X would just exit saying it couldn't do that resolution or fall back to a lower one. The server certainly is capable of it, I run 1024x768 on all my machines. Sometimes if your horizontal or vertical frequency range limit is too narrow, the X server may think it can't achieve the desired resolution, but still it shouldn't generate a signal 11. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2 Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
[Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode
Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17" Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! AH tm.
Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode
Could it have something to do with my mouse ? If I try to change it from inside X, using the control centre, the display blanks, then when it comes back, it gives me an error about IMPS2 not being a correct mode. Any other ideas ? AH - Original Message - From: Stew Benedict [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 7:39 PM Subject: Re: [Cooker-PPC] Changing display mode On Mon, 4 Nov 2002, Alex Horvath wrote: Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17 Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! Hi Alan, I saw this earlier. It's odd that trying different resolutions would cause a signal 11. Normally X would just exit saying it couldn't do that resolution or fall back to a lower one. The server certainly is capable of it, I run 1024x768 on all my machines. Sometimes if your horizontal or vertical frequency range limit is too narrow, the X server may think it can't achieve the desired resolution, but still it shouldn't generate a signal 11. Stew Benedict -- MandrakeSoft PPC FAQ: http://www.linux-mandrake.com/en/ppcFAQ.php3 IRC: irc.openproject.net #cooker-ppc Archives: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=mandrake-cooker-ppcr=1w=2
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Saturday 02 November 2002 23:42, Gary Greene wrote: On Saturday 02 November 2002 04:33 pm, Alex Chudnovsky wrote: On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote: Works for me. Only exception is when using over remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote. Tried a kill -15 on it? That should stop it (hopefully.) No, that doesn't help. It's impossible to kill a process in uninterruptible sleep state. The process is waiting for some I/O that just never finishes. And I would give much to know which I/O it is waiting for and whether there is some way to remove this process altogether by some other means than 'kill''. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 03:06, Leon Brooks wrote: On Sunday 03 November 2002 04:47 am, David Walser wrote: Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when trying to load Netscape plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' state, probably blocking some system resources, and the worst is that there is no way to remove such process but by rebooting the system. Anybody with the same problem? Probably locking on sound. Try killing your sound daemon (probably artsd) and see what happens. When Konqueror is already locked, there is no help to kill artsd. After I try to kill it, even 'ps' just stalls there, and there is even no possibility to reboot - the system just stalls waiting for some process to finish. Keyboard reacts and all that, but no advancement. But, when I stop artsd before I try to load the site, the plugins work. I'll try to play with artsd options - let's see what the reason may be. As I guess, artsd tries to lock /dev/dsp, and then nspluginviewer just stalls while waiting for /dev/dsp to be freed. But why the hell artsd should behave like this in case of SB Live!? There is no reason to lock /dev/dsp as there are 32 channels. There is almost no reason for artsd even to exist in this case - as the sound channel mixing is done in HARDWARE. Cheers; Leon -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 12:37, Leon Brooks wrote: When Konqueror is already locked, there is no help to kill artsd. After I try to kill it, even 'ps' just stalls there, and there is even no possibility to reboot - the system just stalls waiting for some process to finish. Bleah. I've never seen anything that bad from a plugin. I wonder what else is wrong? A lot. For example, when I log in in the text console, the system takes a lot of time to reboot or just stalls UNTIL I EXIT THE TEXT CONSOLE SESSION. I suspect that somewhere there are a lot of some .rpmnew's and that some old versions of initscripts just don't play good anymore with the recent version of the system - it has been continuously upgraded since Mandrake 6.0, including several hardware upgrades and transfers to newer discs. But, when I stop artsd before I try to load the site, the plugins work. I'll try to play with artsd options - let's see what the reason may be. As I guess, artsd tries to lock /dev/dsp, and then nspluginviewer just stalls while waiting for /dev/dsp to be freed. But why the hell artsd should behave like this in case of SB Live!? There is no reason to lock /dev/dsp as there are 32 channels. There is almost no reason for artsd even to exist in this case - as the sound channel mixing is done in HARDWARE. Using OSS? Tried ALSA? Using ALSA. Cheers; Leon -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Sunday 03 November 2002 13:54, Luca Olivetti wrote: Leon Brooks wrote: Using OSS? Tried ALSA? Maybe it's unrelated, but ALSA may not be the best option: with the stock kernel in 9.0, each time I started an application using full duplex, the machine would lock hard. I've had several times XMMS locking hard - and it's not full duplex. OTOH, artsd does use full duplex. I see absolutely no reason to run XMMS via artsd with artsdsp, for I've got SB Live! meaning 32 PCM channels mixed in hardware. And that is perfectly supported by ALSA. But who knows, it may be some interaction of XMMS and artsd with ALSA that does the lockup. Switched to OSS and it's working fine (this application at least). MIDI? ALSA does support MIDI, OSS doesn't support it yet. Bye -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] Changing display mode
Hi All I have a Supermac j900 running Mandrake 8.2PPC. I've got an ATI Xclaim VR (Rage II) and an Apple 17" Monitor. The current display mode is 800x600 (i think the refresh is 75). I'd like to change the display mode to 1024x768 @75 or 85, but I can't seem to do it. I figured out that X is using the /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 file for the configs, but if I add 1024x768 to the Screen section, X errors out with a signal 11. I know that the monitor and card can do 1024x768@75 because I use this on the MacOS. I've tried the default 1024x768 settings, plus my own that I generated at http://xtiming.sourceforge.net Thanks in advance!!! AH tm.
[Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
The recent Konqueror ( 3.1 rc1 ) just hangs when trying to load Netscape plugins. The nspluginviewer process is in the 'D' state, probably blocking some system resources, and the worst is that there is no way to remove such process but by rebooting the system. Anybody with the same problem? -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Recent Konqueror and NS plugins
On Saturday 02 November 2002 22:47, David Walser wrote: Works for me. Only exception is when using over remote X and flash is called, then it hangs. If I killall nspluginviewer I'm back in business. I can't kill it, that's a problem. And the X is local, not remote. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] New Cooker Konqueror and www.mandrakeforum.org
I've encountered some strange behavior of the recent Konqueror regarding www.mandrakeforum.org - as I try to enter some article page containing comments, the page just constantly refreshes and never stops. Is there anybody with the same problem? -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] New Cooker Konqueror and www.mandrakeforum.org
On Friday 01 November 2002 19:58, David Walser wrote: What are your cookie settings? The same thing happens to me in Mozilla on Yahoo! Mail with JavaScript playing with Cookies disabled. Enabled and accepted by default from any server. I've tried many various settings and the result is always the same. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Newest kernel RPM
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 17:50, David Walser wrote: Also, I just tried to boot it, and the kernel takes forever to start up, then when init starts, it freezes trying to start devfsd. Did somebody try to run NVIDIA proprietary drivers with 2.4.19-18mdk? Somehow with these drivers X works very slowly and finally hangs. Booting with acpi=off everything works. What info do you want from me? --- David Walser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Installing it it did change the symlinks for initrd.img and vmlinuz in /boot, but if failed to change the symlinks for config and System.map __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Newest kernel RPM
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 18:05, David Walser wrote: --- Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did somebody try to run NVIDIA proprietary drivers with 2.4.19-18mdk? Somehow with these drivers X works very slowly and finally hangs. Independent of Mandrake's kernels, I've seen that in different places with the latest versions of NVidia's module. Try going back a few versions. No, with 2.4.19-16mdk these drivers DO WORK. They also do work with 2.4.19-17mdk/18mdk when booting with acpi=off. With ACPI on, they are somehow slowed to crawl, even mouse is jumpy. I believe the problem is in ACPI. __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
[Cooker] newest printer-drivers and suddenly no X11 devices in ghostscript -anybody with the same experience?
As the subject says, I've installed the newest printer-drivers, and suddenly x11 devices disappeared from ghostscript. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] Newest kernel RPM
On Wednesday 30 October 2002 18:13, David Walser wrote: --- Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 30 October 2002 18:05, David Walser wrote: --- Alex Chudnovsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did somebody try to run NVIDIA proprietary drivers with 2.4.19-18mdk? Somehow with these drivers X works very slowly and finally hangs. Independent of Mandrake's kernels, I've seen that in different places with the latest versions of NVidia's module. Try going back a few versions. No, with 2.4.19-16mdk these drivers DO WORK. They also do work with 2.4.19-17mdk/18mdk when booting with acpi=off. With ACPI on, they are somehow slowed to crawl, even mouse is jumpy. I believe the problem is in ACPI. I wouldn't doubt it. Try turning ACPI off. Let us know if it works. I've already written it DOES WORK. If so, if Juan ever comes back and says what info he wants from me, you can provide it for your situation also. __ Do you Yahoo!? HotJobs - Search new jobs daily now http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/ -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] latest gnome-terminal is segfaulting
Brian J. Murrell said: I updated Cooker today and afterwards I have had gnome-terminal crash twice. The second time brought up bug-buddy but the stack trace was useless so I didn't bother sending it in. What makes gnome-terminal even uglier than xterm when it crashes is that it takes down all of the terminal windows under a session on a machine because subsequent invocations of gnome-terminal just cause the active gnome-terminal to spawn a new window. Check you have the latest libzvt installed. This was tripping me as well but its just a library clash. Shouldn't the RPM dependacies of caught this when the latest gnome-terminal was installed? I thought minor version number changes indicated ABI compatibilty and these breakages shouldn't occur? On a side note may I suggest that the cooker version of bug budy be modified to report directly to Mandrake to avoid filling up Gnomes Bugzilla with Cooker specific problems. Alex www.bennee.com/~alex/
[Cooker] Mailing list options
A few questions about this (and other Mandrake lists): Is there an option to have a daily digest instead of individual mails? Is there an easy to search archive? Have MandrakeSoft considered using something like mailman? Alex www.bennee.com/~alex/
Re: [Cooker] new rpmdrake (i know, i know... but please read)
bah! why the huge update for rpmdrake anyway? i mean, its nicer and easier for new users, but what about everyone else? i guess i have to live with this, but i want my advanced interface back! oh, btw. how do i read the updates for a certain day made for that rpm release? - Original Message - From: Jason Marsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 21:50:22 -0800 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] new rpmdrake (i know, i know... but please read) On Friday 02 August 2002 1:14 pm, Alex Perry wrote: i used the old rpmdrake to update from the cooker all the time. i'd update the list, and select everything with that icon beside it. now, with the new rpmdrake, what do i do? how do i install all the updated packages off the cooker ftp? heres what to do now: from the console, type urmpi.update ftp.sunet.se (or whatever your source is called) then start rpmdrake. rightclick on the package list window, and select 'by presence' click on 'upgradeable' and voila.. Do remember that if the installation fails, the RPMS will not be saved in /var/cache/urpmi/rpms. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
[Cooker] building qtella 0.5.3
compiling everything went fine, but when i went to run it, i get the error qtella: relocation error: qtella: undefined symbol: __ti7QDialog any ideas what this is/how to fix it? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
[Cooker] new rpmdrake (i know, i know... but please read)
i used the old rpmdrake to update from the cooker all the time. i'd update the list, and select everything with that icon beside it. now, with the new rpmdrake, what do i do? how do i install all the updated packages off the cooker ftp? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
[Cooker] two things (ksirc and rpmdrake)
one: when you start kde, and it loads ksirc from the previous session, the screen goes black with a dialog popping up asking for input. esc. bypasses this and displays the desktop correctly. two: more of a suggestion, but in software mamager, i'd like to be able to horizontally scroll in the details tab to read the update description. just an idea. -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
Re: [Cooker] SDL apps wont run - seg fault
ya, i downloaded the rpms for the nvidia drivers posted on the nvidia drivers wont work (or something along those lines) a few days back... are they unstable? - Original Message - From: Guillaume Cottenceau [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 29 Jul 2002 10:25:14 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Cooker] SDL apps wont run - seg fault Alex Perry [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i've tried running several different games using SDL, and they all segfault. i tried chromium, frozen-bubble, and barrel patrol 3d. It works for me.. are you using nvidia drivers? -- Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/ -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
Re: [Cooker] Cheers
Good Stuff! Congrats Mandrake! - Original Message - From: Philippe Coulonges [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 19:31:25 +0200 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Cooker] Cheers -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Just look in there, guys. http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS3153607016.html CU CPHIL - -- Prof: So the American government went to IBM to come up with a data encryption standard and they came up with ... Student: EBCDIC! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9RCpuYJwqltj/jHgRAlZVAJ0YgHGNEvH6IOu1O8rPCGY+2BoZnQCcClLx Lgpj2sws+zPiQLEyBn/5lHk= =ApRN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
[Cooker] SDL apps wont run - seg fault
i've tried running several different games using SDL, and they all segfault. i tried chromium, frozen-bubble, and barrel patrol 3d. these are the last few lines of bp3d loading: loaded object_barrel : 18400 bytes loaded object_missile_1 : 4332 bytes loaded object_tank_1 : 19592 bytes Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) is this becaues of the version of sdllibs in the cooker? -- Get your free email from www.linuxmail.org Powered by Outblaze
Re: [Cooker] whats wrong after install 2
Am Fre, 2002-07-12 um 23.31 schrieb aleX Kiausch: Hi I did a fresh install a few minutes ago, using hd.img The USB Keyboard is still not recognized in XDrake (I switched to PS/2 when I had to) the IDE Burner is not 'ide-scsi'ed Mozilla is not working because of a few not installed pakets-I installed libjs, mozilla js debugger, mozilla-dom-inspector then it worked (maybe someone has to check dependencies in deplists??) no german installation dialogs in XDrake no automatic german in KDE (i-18n-de) still the KDE firsttime wizard but allthetime ... :-) guess I send the report.bug.gz to pixel (this time for real to him only) I keep you informed ... I forgot to mention that a few rpm-packages didn't install: gnome-guile, emusic, openuniverse
[Cooker] whats wrong after install 2
Hi I did a fresh install a few minutes ago, using hd.img The USB Keyboard is still not recognized in XDrake (I switched to PS/2 when I had to) the IDE Burner is not 'ide-scsi'ed Mozilla is not working because of a few not installed pakets-I installed libjs, mozilla js debugger, mozilla-dom-inspector then it worked (maybe someone has to check dependencies in deplists??) no german installation dialogs in XDrake no automatic german in KDE (i-18n-de) still the KDE firsttime wizard but allthetime ... :-) guess I send the report.bug.gz to pixel (this time for real to him only) I keep you informed ...
Re: [Cooker] What's wrong after install
Am Die, 2002-07-09 um 11.07 schrieb Pixel: aleX Kiausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a fresh install from my fresh mirrored cooker yesterday. Still the my USB-Keyboard doesn't work during the installation process. CD-Burners are not recogniezed automatically can you mail me (and not cooker, it's big!) /root/drakx/report.bug.gz ? Here it is ... please keep me informed what goes one, maybe I can help report.bug.gz Description: GNU Zip compressed data
[Cooker] What's wrong after install
I did a fresh install from my fresh mirrored cooker yesterday. Still the my USB-Keyboard doesn't work during the installation process. CD-Burners are not recogniezed automatically (but when I tell XDrake to install GnomeToaster they will be rcognized). I had to rebuild Mozilla, after installation Mozilla won't work. My machine: Asus A7V 333 Athlon XP 1600+ Geforce 3 Ti 200 512 MB DDR RAM 133 Hauppauge PCI TV-Card Soundblaster Live! DAWI Control PCI 2974 SCSI Host Adapter some Realtek Ethernet Card I test on Greetings to Mandrake Team Alexander Kiausch
[Cooker] Gnome and Mozilla / Galeon
I updated my Cooker tis morning (all the new kde 3.0.2 Stuff) and now all of a sudden when I start Mozilla or Galeon in Gnome the panel disapears and the frames of all open windows ... anybody here knows what I'm talking about? Is this a Gnome or a Sawfish issue? Any ideas? Thanx AleXander
[Cooker] wmfishtime
On all mirrors are two versions of wmfishtime, why ? I always get 'duplicate version' errors of mkcd ... Is there a reason for that? aleXander p.s. Did anyone manage to compile cdrdao with cooker?
Re: [Cooker] Long Standing Bugs
Am Mit, 2002-06-26 um 14.21 schrieb Austin Acton: Okay kids, you asked for it... I installed the cooker iso posted recently and then updated to the current cooker, and I found a few bugs that have been around since before 8.2 came out. Can we work on them? 1. During install, screen says probing serial ports. If my Wacom USB tablet mouse is plugged in, the installation halts due to unidentified device. Not only is this stupid, a newbie would likely not know to unplug the mouse and try again. What if he had no other mouse? The partition segment of install cannot be used with keyboard alone. I tried. 2. On my laptop, Compaq Armada 3500, XFree 4 runs for 5 minutes then hangs the system so hard I have to rip out the battery to reboot. XFree 3 runs fine. (It's a CT96000 card, 2MB) Users will soon DEMAND anti-aliasing, so this is a problem. Any ideas? I'm here to answer questions... Austin Hello I have to add one: I have USB Keyboard, it works when installprocess is starting but when I guess it's XDrak (the GUI instalation tool) comes up I have to change it to the PS/2 connector, but USB Mouse works flawlessly. It's like that since 8.2 on some Betas of 8.2 (I think it was Beta 2; but don't nail me) it worked with the USB Keyb.
Re: [Cooker] depslist mismatch
Am Son, 2002-06-23 um 17.00 schrieb Robert Fox: On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 21:05, aleX Kiausch wrote: Am Sam, 2002-06-22 um 20.17 schrieb Robert Fox: On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 19:56, aleX Kiausch wrote: Hi everybody When I try to make a fresh install from the rsynced cooker i get the following errormessage: depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files What's up? Am I wrong or the mirror I get it from? please help Check the following link for details - you need to run gendistrib: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1577lang=en Hope this helps. R.Fox I did this: gendistrib --distrib cooker/cooker/i586 and it gives me this: bad rpm cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gnome-vfs-extras-0.99.0-2mdk.i586.rpm ... something seems to be wrong Delete that file - it presently has 0 bytes on the mirrors. After you delete it - run gendistrib again and all should be fine! Cheers, R.Fox I have another problem, after I found out that the cooker files on ftp servers are more complete I changed back to wget ... but now I get lot's of duplicates of the newer rpms ... is there a way to avoid this? Maybe the delete after option?
[Cooker] depslist mismatch
Hi everybody When I try to make a fresh install from the rsynced cooker i get the following errormessage: depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files What's up? Am I wrong or the mirror I get it from? please help
Re: [Cooker] depslist mismatch
Am Sam, 2002-06-22 um 20.17 schrieb Robert Fox: On Sat, 2002-06-22 at 19:56, aleX Kiausch wrote: Hi everybody When I try to make a fresh install from the rsynced cooker i get the following errormessage: depslist.ordered mismatch against hdlist files What's up? Am I wrong or the mirror I get it from? please help Check the following link for details - you need to run gendistrib: http://www.mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1577lang=en Hope this helps. R.Fox I did this: gendistrib --distrib cooker/cooker/i586 and it gives me this: bad rpm cooker/cooker/i586/Mandrake/RPMS/gnome-vfs-extras-0.99.0-2mdk.i586.rpm ... something seems to be wrong
Re: [Cooker] depslist mismatch
Am Sam, 2002-06-22 um 20.36 schrieb Wesley J Landaker: Unless he's syncing from the same place as me (sunet.se) then there is something wrong, because I get the same error here on a fresh install (as of about 5 minutes ago gnome-vfs-extras-0.99.0-2mdk.i586.rpm has 0 Byte Is that correct ?! I don't think so...
Re: [Cooker] Newbie try's to cook...
Am Mon, 2002-06-10 um 09.40 schrieb Warly: aleX Kiausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'd like to get involved in evaluing MandrakeLinux. So I mirrored cooker ( I think I got it all now; I used wget ...) but when I try to make Iso-Images by using MakeCd in the /misc/ - Dir the first CD refuses to be build. There's an errormessage stating that there's no isolinux.bin - but there is ... and it states: SELECTED REJECTED kdeadmin-3.0.1-4mdk.i586 Can anybody here give me a hint how I can install Cooker on a spare Partition or maybe tell me where I can find hint's Have you a /isolinux at the root of your cooker mirror? And a /images? What command did you use? -- Warly After i mirrored with wget -rm ftp://ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker I used this:[alex@localhost alex]$ /home/alex/cooker/ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586/misc/MakeCD -t /home/alex/tmp/ -a -c 1 -s /home/alex/cooker/ftp.join.uni-muenster.de/pub/linux/distributions/mandrake-devel/cooker/i586 to make cd cd's. Ididn't recon that there is a link to i586 in cooker also named cooker (isn't that really a little bit confusing?) I hope this info helps you ... alex
Re: [Cooker] Newbie try's to cook...
Am Die, 2002-06-11 um 02.58 schrieb Murray J. Root: Please quote correctly - answers go at the end. Thanks. On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 10:28:46 +0200 Simone Riccio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, i got the same problem! i checked the log file and managet to get round to it by running mkisofs for CD1 manually, removing the boot section.. no way to make it work, i tried to provide the absolute path to isolinux.bin but no way again... the only way is to create the iso without boot... Murray J. Root wrote: On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 09:40:23 +0200 Warly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aleX Kiausch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi, I'd like to get involved in evaluing MandrakeLinux. So I mirrored cooker ( I think I got it all now; I used wget ...) but when I try to make Iso-Images by using MakeCd in the /misc/ - Dir the first CD refuses to be build. There's an errormessage stating that there's no isolinux.bin - but there is ... and it states: SELECTED REJECTED kdeadmin-3.0.1-4mdk.i586 Can anybody here give me a hint how I can install Cooker on a spare Partition or maybe tell me where I can find hint's Have you a /isolinux at the root of your cooker mirror? And a /images? What command did you use? Looks like the same error from a few months back - mkisofs Just checked again today - all you need to do is get the current mkisofs. Mandrake Linux Cooker-i586 20020610 22:33 -rw-r--r--1 root root 731414528 Jun 10 19:53 1-Cooker.iso -rw-r--r--1 root root 733347840 Jun 10 19:55 2-Cooker.iso -rw-r--r--1 root root 732004352 Jun 10 19:56 3-Cooker.iso -rw-r--r--1 root root 608239616 Jun 10 19:58 4-Cooker.iso -- Murray J. Root DISCLAIMER: http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/ Mandrake on irc.openprojects.net: #mandrake #mandrake-linux = help for newbies #mandrakeguru = advanced discussions #mdk-cooker = Mandrake Cooker -- where do i get it? mkisofs 1.15a20 (i586-mandrake-linux-gnu) this is the one I have on rpmfind there is only the cooker version or this one or even older ... but will the cooker files work? aren't they gcc 3.1?
[Cooker] Newbie try's to cook 2 ...
Hi ... meanwhile i got the snapshot iso images. When i try to install them drakX shows up and everything works fine until gnome-doc.rpm(shortly before the installation of rpm's should be finished) got installed then nothing happens anymore and the installation stops with no erreors or anything, same thing when i try to install from my mirrored files on hd. What is the big mistake i make do you have any suggestions? aleXander
[Cooker] Newbie try's to cook...
Hi, I'd like to get involved in evaluing MandrakeLinux. So I mirrored cooker ( I think I got it all now; I used wget ...) but when I try to make Iso-Images by using MakeCd in the /misc/ - Dir the first CD refuses to be build. There's an errormessage stating that there's no isolinux.bin - but there is ... and it states: SELECTED REJECTED kdeadmin-3.0.1-4mdk.i586 Can anybody here give me a hint how I can install Cooker on a spare Partition or maybe tell me where I can find hint's Thanx in advance AleXander Kiausch
[Cooker-firewall] A tc htb/iptables rate control script for ADSL
Hi,
Firstly I appologise for the cross-posting but as I got help from all
over the place I thought I had better feed back the results now I have
this working.
The Problem:
I run a Speedtouch ADSL modem on my router and host a number of services
behind my link (web server mainly) so people can access my files.
Unfortunately some of the files on my web-server are quite big 100Mb
and while I'm happy for people to download them it kinda kills
interactivity when I am at home surfing.
The Solution:
Line rate control! I was going through various cookbook approaches (e.g.
the wondershapper) but decided to role my own because:
a) I've just grokked iptables and I didn't want to learn yet another
packet matching syntax
b) cbq solutions looked to hard to understand
c) its the only way to learn
What this script does is mark upstream packets using a bunch of iptables
matches. The marks correspond to the priority I want to assign my
traffic (remember I can only do this for outgoing packets, shaping
incoming data on my LAN wouldn't achieve much).
The script then create a bunch of htb shapers, one for each traffic type
giving a controlled rate of output. The filters are then setup to direct
packets to each traffic class based on the iptables matches done
earlier.
For more info read the script
Caveats:
This works for me, YMMV. I've done limited testing and for me I can
surf at my normal high speeds while large downloads happen from my
server. I expect it can be tuned further with experimentation and
would welcome any feedback on the script. I have a moderate number of
services on my link, I expect most people can simplify the priorities
to traffic originated by me and incomming connections. The script is
part of a larger firewall script that can be found on my websites CVS
pages (under software) but its not fully integrated yet.
Enjoy,
Alex.
function setup_shaping ()
{
# Setup POSTROUTING marking on dsl output
# needed for QoS type hacks
# 1 - outgoing interactive (ssh)
# 2 - outgoing file stuff (www)
# 3 - incomming interactive (ssh)
# 4 - incomming personal use (https, http-tunnel)
# 5 - incomming web
# 6 - incomming mail
# 7 - everything else
# create the to-dsl table (we can only shape outgoing traffic)
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -N to-dsl
# For outgoing packets we need to mark stuff
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --dport 22 -j MARK
--set-mark 1
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --dport 80 -j MARK
--set-mark 2
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --sport 24 -j MARK
--set-mark 3
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --sport 443 -j MARK
--set-mark 4
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --sport 8890 -j MARK
--set-mark 4
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --sport 80 -j MARK
--set-mark 5
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A to-dsl -p tcp --sport 25 -j MARK
--set-mark 6
# enable the marking on all outgoing packets
/sbin/iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j to-dsl
# and the qdisc's
# Base htb class
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 root handle 1: htb default 60
# add a rate limiting class underneath - this ensure we don't send
# packets to the dsl modem faster than its going to send them
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1: classid 1:1 htb rate 250kbit
burst 6k
#sub classes for each traffic type
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:10 htb rate 250kbit
burst 15k
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:20 htb rate 250kbit
burst 15k
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:30 htb rate 250kbit
burst 15k
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:40 htb rate 250kbit
burst 15k
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:50 htb rate 128kbit
burst 50k
/sbin/tc class add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 classid 1:60 htb rate 100kbit
burst 15k
#note to self: to show class stats
#tc -s -d class show dev ppp0 parent 1:
# don't use prio anymore
#tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:1 handle 2: prio bands 6 priomap 0 1
2 3 4 5
# create sfq's under each traffic class to share it all out
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:10 handle 10: sfq
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:20 handle 20: sfq
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:30 handle 30: sfq
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:40 handle 40: sfq
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:50 handle 50: sfq
/sbin/tc qdisc add dev ppp0 parent 1:60 handle 60: sfq
# note to self: delete with
# tc qdisc del dev ppp0 parent 1:0 handle 10:
# are flowid and classid interchangable?
# create filters from the root to sort the traffic
/sbin/tc filter add dev ppp0 parent 1: protocol ip prio 1 handle 1
fw classid 1:10
/sbin/tc filter add dev ppp0 parent 1: protocol ip prio 2 handle 2
fw classid 1:20
/sbin/tc filter add dev
[Cooker-firewall] Cookfire homepage
It could just be me but when I search for cookfire stuff on the Mandrake site all I come across is this mailing list. I have a few quick questions if you could indulge.. 1. If I rsync cookfire can I create ISO's ala the normal cooker method 2. Does cookfire mirror cooker (same lib dependancies?) 3. Do you use cooker to build packages for cookfire (same as Q2 I guess)? I'm currently updateing our RPM's for the user-mode speedtouch driver (speedtouch.sf.net) so I'll be testing them on cookfire once I get it installed. Alex www.bennee.com/~alex/
Re: [Cooker-firewall] Cookfire homepage
Florin said: Hi there, ... and welcome to this mailing list :o) but let's get back to those sheep ... - cookfire is the iso (branch) of the old snf firewall based on 7.2. - the new firewall is not an iso anymore but a bunch rpm packages within cooker, the snf-language packages to be more accurate. So if I want to re-build my Mandrake Firewall router should I do a minimal install of Cooker and then add the snf- packages? Are there any iso's of the beta firewall available? And finally are you intending to support the speedtouch frog with the latest version of the firewall (whenever that may be). Regards, Alex www.bennee.com/~alex/
[Cooker] kdebase-2.2.2-30mdk kdelibs-2.2.2-28mdk - konqueror crashes whentrying to load linuxtoday.com
Hi, I've tried recently to upgrade my kdebase kdelibs to the newest cooker ones - and for several recent versions, konqueror crashes when trying to view linuxtoday.com. Is that just me or is there some bug in konqueror? Thanks. -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
Re: [Cooker] kdebase-2.2.2-30mdk kdelibs-2.2.2-28mdk - konquerorcrashes when trying to load linuxtoday.com
On Friday 25 January 2002 16:33, you wrote: On Fri, 25 Jan 2002, Borsenkow Andrej wrote: Hi, I've tried recently to upgrade my kdebase kdelibs to the newest cooker ones - and for several recent versions, konqueror crashes when trying to view linuxtoday.com. Is that just me or is there some bug in konqueror? Try www.soundblaster.com with Java enabled and SUN Java 1.3 installed from RPM. You get 100% CPU and hung Konqueror (at least with KDE3). The same works just fine with Galeon. -andrej AFAIK Sun's Java 1.3 has bugs that prevent it from working with Konqueror, please see http://www.konqueror.org/konq-java.html Java disabled, Javascript disabled, and it's Konqueror 2.2.2, not konqueror 3 - still crashes. The window simply disappears. And this didn't happen in the first builds of kdebase-2.2.2 / kdelibs-2.2.2. And that's in linuxtoday.com - Linux-oriented site not working with Linux-oriented browser? Bad :-( -- Regards, Alex Chudnovsky e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ : 35559910
