Re: [CTRL] CTRL Digest - 2 Apr 1999 to 3 Apr 1999 - Special issue (#1999-167)
-Caveat Lector- bob i would also like to have the JESUS eXC. FILE SENT TO ME ALSO [EMAIL PROTECTED] DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: 04.14.99 RMNews Beaver Update & Art Bell Versus the NWO
= ==RUMOR MILL NEWS AGENCY== = Dateline: 04.14.99 BEAVER UPDATE AND ART BELL VERSUS THE NWO Plus more informative and exciting information resources Cherry Tree Beaver Update For the last four days I have been receiving 30 second to one minute calls from my beaver Source. He said all lines of communication are compromised. Therefore he is unable to give me the full details of what happened when the Virginia Unorganized Beaver Militia assaulted Washington D.C. He was able to tell me that the Clinton Commandos were laying in wait as the beavers hit the water of the tidal pool. The Commandos used a laser weapon, not guns. The laser is almost silent. It blinded the beavers and disoriented them. The Navy SEALS and my beaver Source accompanied the beavers. They wore protective glasses. But the beavers weren't that lucky. No one makes laser shields for beavers. (If you are not familiar with laser weaponry, I have an article from the European Parliament that describes them and other high tech weaponry) The SEALS quickly herded the Virginia Beavers into the Washington DC sewers. My Source said that once they were inside the sewer system, they realized that they have access to every building in Washington D.C., and some they didn't even know existed. My Source told me to watch for unusual happenings in Washington. The Cherry Tree Beavers are sacrificing themselves to remind Americans that this country was founded on truth and justice. We must do what we can to help the Cherry Tree Beavers. Tell their story to anyone who will listen. Send their stories to your friends and family. The Cherry Tree Beavers are standing up for the principle for which the Cherry Trees were planted in Washington: TRUTH IN GOVERNMENT Tell your politician the Beavers are right! Lying is wrong! The American people deserve honest leaders. Support your local beaver and elect honest politicians! RUSH LIMBAUGH FLASH This morning on the Rush Limbaugh show, Rush talked about an unusual incident which occurred at the White House yesterday. The lights went out. They were out only a few seconds, but over 8 fire trucks were called, as well as ambulances. The official white House Liar, I mean spokesman, said that it wasn't a real problem. There was a small fire in a transformer box, nothing serious. If it wasn't serious, then why were 8 fire trucks and an ambulance dispatched? My Beaver Source told me during one of his abbreviated conversations that the press isn't printing a tenth of what they know, and the White House isn't telling them anything. Nancy Moses, a spokeswoman for Potomac Electric Power Co., said a small fire occurred in a bundle of wires at a transformer in a manhole on the White House grounds at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. Rush talked about this incident for a very long time. Does he know something that the rest of us haven't yet been told? From his comments, a listener would believe that this transformer fire is just the beginning of a long Tom Clancy novel. The Cherry Tree Beavers are in the Washington sewers. Could this transformer fire have been their doing? And if so, what else can we expect in the near future? Someone must ask Rush what he really knows about this strange so-called fire. It was evident by his comments on his show today that he knows more about this than he is telling. ART BELL VERSUS THE NEW WORLD ORDER Last night Art Bell had Jeffrey Nyquist as a guest. But even before Jeffrey came on the program, Art was lambasting the New World Order and NATO for the war in Kosovo. When Jeffrey came on, they continued informing people about the deadly consequences of our actions in Kosovo. They talked about Russia and China becoming enemies once more and pointing their nuclear weapons at us. It was very clear that Art was telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about the New World Order and what is going to happen to America if they are successful in implementing their One World Government. The more I listened to Art, the more afraid I became for him. I know from a personal level what the New World Order does to whistle blowers. The first thing they do is find out everything you have ever done in your life. If they find a criminal record, nor matter how minor, they magnify the story, purposely take it out of context, and make the whistle blower look like the most evil person on the planet. If the person has no criminal record, then they manufacture criminal or perverse acts. They usually find one of their paid stooges to give a press conference and declare that they were raped, robbed or beaten by the whistle blower. If there is an exwife, they always seek her out to talk about the strange sexual preferences of the whistle blower. If this doesn't work, then they sic the IRS on the individual. Even if all the tax records are in per
[CTRL] Fwd: Russia/NATO/Azerbaijan
__ Stratfor's FREE Kosovo Crisis Center - http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/ The most comprehensive coverage of the Kosovo Crisis anywhere on the Internet __ STRATFOR's Global Intelligence Update April 15, 1999 NATO Presses Russia on Another Front Summary: NATO's campaign in Yugoslavia, waged against the fervent objections of Moscow, has once again driven Russia and NATO into opposing camps. NATO has also been pursuing relationships in the Caucasus and Central Asia, and surprisingly is continuing to actively do so even as it is attempting to stabilize relations with Russia over Kosovo. Analysis: Russia's Interfax news agency has cited Azerbaijani presidential administration sources as saying that Azerbaijani President Haidar Aliyev received personal messages on April 14 from U.S. President Bill Clinton and U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright. According to Interfax, the message from Clinton "contains a proposal on settling the Karabakh conflict," while Albright invited Aliyev to attend NATO's anniversary celebration later in April. Azerbaijan has been eagerly pursuing a relationship with -- if not membership in -- NATO, a campaign matched by the growing strategic alliance between Russia and Armenia. But while this strategic positioning is well underway, it is surprising that Clinton and Albright would personally fuel this standoff just now. Relations between NATO and Russia have been shattered by the Kosovo crisis, and efforts to mend those relations and find a solution to the crisis can only be hurt by increasing tension in the Caucasus. We have thoroughly reported and analyzed the collapse of Russia's relations with NATO over the conflict in Kosovo on our Kosovo in Crisis web site (http://www.stratfor.com/kosovo/crisis/). Russia was not only infuriated when NATO ignored its objections prior to launching air strikes on Yugoslavia, but has come to view NATO's actions as a direct challenge to Russian national interests and security. The Russian journal Segodnya on April 10 described NATO as destroying the last outpost of Russian influence in Europe. But NATO's campaign against Russia does not stop in Yugoslavia, Segodnya argued, "Georgia and Azerbaijan do not want a Russian military presence anymore and are the most "advanced" countries in this respect, as far as the United States is concerned." Azerbaijani officials had already announced on April 7 Aliyev's intention to attend NATO's 50th anniversary ceremonies. The officials told the newspaper Bilik Dunyasi that Aliyev was also expected while in the United States to hold talks with U.S. leaders on expanding bilateral cooperation. Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze has also announced his intention to attend NATO's anniversary ceremonies. Azerbaijan and Georgia, along with Uzbekistan, opted out of the Commonwealth of Independent States (CIS) Collective Security Treaty earlier this month. Additionally, both Azerbaijan and Georgia refused to sign a CIS statement condemning NATO air strikes in Yugoslavia. In fact, Azerbaijani political parties, both in the opposition and the ruling coalition, have come out publicly in favor of NATO air strikes. Azerbaijan has even announced its intention to send 50 soldiers as part of a Turkish unit to participate in NATO peacekeeping operations in Bosnia, or perhaps in Kosovo once a settlement is reached. Whether proactive or reactive, Azerbaijan has appealed for closer relations with NATO to counterbalance Russian relations with Armenia. Azerbaijan and Armenia are currently in shaky truce over the predominantly Armenian enclave of Nagorno Karabakh in Azerbaijan. While Russia has denied it is supplying arms directly to Armenia -- since arming combatants in an intra-CIS feud is forbidden -- it has deployed advanced S-300 surface to air missiles and MiG-29 fighters to Russian units in Armenia. Speaking in Armenia on April 13, Russian air force commander Colonel General Anatoly Kornukov announced that Armenia's air defense system and Russia's air force are "ready to embark on joint combat duty." For its part, Georgia has requested the departure of Russian army units guaranteeing a truce between Georgia and the breakaway region of Abkhazia. Georgia accuses Russia of siding with the Abkhaz separatists. On March 19, Azerbaijan detained a Russian cargo plane carrying MiG fighters Baku claimed were bound for Yugoslavia. The Russian newspaper Nezavisimaya Gazeta interpreted this as little more than a show of loyalty to NATO. On March 20, Aliyev questioned Russian President Boris Yeltsin about Russian missile and jet shipments to Armenia. On March 23, a U.S. delegation led by Air Force Major General Charles Wax reportedly visited Azerbaijan, where they held talks with Azerbaijani Defense and Foreign Ministry officials and toured the Nasosnaya Air Base, which Azerbaijan has offered to the U.S., Turkey, and NATO. Ne
Re: [CTRL] The Aliens of Texas [Folly: Unusual Skull and Skeleton]
-Caveat Lector- > On 10 Apr 1999 17:22:39 -0400, "Jabriol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > (CNI) Two separate skeletal > >finds have come to light in Texas recently, raising questions of possible > >"alien" origin. In one case, a couple came into possession of a pair of > >skulls, one clearly human, the other "markedly divergent from the human > >norm." In the second case, a nearly complete skeleton appearing to be a > >"little person" with numerous unusual anatomical features has been reported. > >http://www.pufori.org/articles/aliens_cni_unusual_skull_and_skeleton.htm > > There are alot of alien skeletons found in Texas, mostly in > the summer and cold parts of the winter within about 100 > miles of the Rio grand. Those little holes come from being > gnawed on by wild animals, repeated gnawing by indigeoneous > species causes deformation. > > I can tell you a little bit about those aliens also, being > somewhat related and from Texas. > > Get this, they were here before the europeans arrived in > 1500's. Even stranger, they had darker skin than 'real' > people. > Want to know something else, they grew a special kind a > grain, Maize, and all kinds of spicey vegetables we call > peppers. They also ate these roots, they were called papas, > but you may know them now as McDonalds fries. All in all > these aliens have brought to 'real' peoples all kinds of > fruits vegetables and many other things. They also grow a > special called the bean, when cooked, smashed, cooked again > with pig fat, and eaten has been know to result in lethal > gas and very strange noises. Be careful not to eat to many > of this concoction and ride in filled elevators. > One other thing, we had a war with these aliens roughly > ending about 1900's before which we took most of their land > and killed most of their food animals. > But the aliens had a sinister plan to return. They > convinced us to create all kind of sophisticated technology > and equipment and thus we used them to increase CO2 in the > atmosphere and we became placidly dependent on Air > Conditioning, Most people don't know this but an Alien > showed where spindletop was just to get the Global Warming > pattern off on a fast start. Thus we are now unable to work > in the Texas summer heat. The smaller darkskinned aliens > were more heat tolerant, so they have been returning in > droves ever since and basically repopulation the land they > were once driven from. Occasionally this plan backfires and > during very hot periods during July and August you can find > these aliens in their broken down 'space' vehicles (railway > boxcars and tractor-trailors) along the Texas Mexico border. > Whereby we have to post signs in their homeworld warning > them not to come for a few weeks. > Get this, some actually believe that in 50 years the > aliens will have gained control of much of the southern > United States, and everyone will be forced to eat rice, > beans, tacos and quacamole once a day, thereby eventually > killing the lack of taste in the european diet. > Where was it said 'Build it and they shall come', here we > say try to build it, and they shall come and linger around > your pickup for 20 minutes, try to empty your pocket of > spare cash (which happens now to be better than mine) and > then if your lucky, build it. Then they will come asking to > clean it or work in it, or on occasion marry your sister and > the groups will commadeer back yards as secret meeting > grounds for testing of our defensive weaponry. By the way, > if you ever face one of these aliens remember, they are > quickly subdued by a thin plastic holder filled with several > rounds of Miller Lite (exhibit defensive weaponry). The > commanders are more difficult and for these you'll need some > Corona or Tecate with Lime or Tequila Shots. > There is also a rumor that the alien women get pregnant if > well-off men looks at them, so be careful not to stare at > the women if you just got paid. Never stop at a corner, > whistle loudly at them and yell _Mamasota_ (otherwise they > may force entry into your vehicle and take pleasure with > you), it is best to keep the windows up at bus stops as the > site of these women freqeuntly results in the alien men > making such noise and you wouldn't want them to mistake your > car for a alien ship. If you are attacked by the females it > is possible that a few brothers or cousins might tap you on > the shoulder for a 'physical' examination in their > spaceship, secretly called a 'chevy' with well placed double > barreled scatter projectile weapons, again remember the > weapon of neccesity in this instance you'll need cases of > beer, and you may have to take them on an expedition of > catching fish or hunting, since rendering wild animals into > a desication chamber (i.e. barbeque pit) is a means of > socializing as well as gaining info on Texas wildlife
Re: [CTRL] DNA
-Caveat Lector- > >Darwin said we come from the monkies...yet we still have monkies.. >if DNA is a history to our past, what is the DNA of a monkey. Do we >have monkey DNA? The human race has approx 97% monkey DNA, but as no-one can now put their hand on their heart and say Darwin we love you - considering the recent find of a very evolved corpse in South Africa destroyed a lot of careers [again] In germany, they excavated and found neanderthals living in close proximity to Cro Magnon at the same time - which kinda causes a problem for those who talk about long slow processes and genes gradually evolving etc etc ... The Elohim saw the daughters of man and thought they were fair !!! those girls had to be really hairy:) and those spacemen had to be a bit randy ;) >Here I sit at 4:12 a.m. wondering if I have monkey DNA. Please help >this lost confused soul...am I the end result of a monkey or what. Yes you have monkey DNA, but I suspect that the Star Gods who came here, did naughty things, were arrested and left to it till the return of the Others in 2013 etc etc practised Inbreeding a lot -ie. incest. to while away the generations till the return in 2013 ad etc Incest can be found in Egyptian and Celtic mythologies where all the 'Bluebloods' inbred to keep the best possible genes together and not get them further contaminated by the lowly human monkey stock. [Arthur/Mordred, Isis/Set] So . I think the Missing Link is the Genetic material provided by the Elohim .. further blasphemy comes when it is revealed that the best things about the human brain are derived from Reptilian DNA ! ie. the third eye or pineal gland, seat of spirit, and the brain stem ... [incest ref. Gods of the New Millenium by alan alford, and Book of Enoch] >And if that be so, was the dog and cat maxine the pitbull is a mammal, but all birds are actually evolved from Reptiles where the scales have adapted to become feathers ... There is also a compilation of darwin refutations by Richard Milton called the facts of Life - and this comprises a serious academic debate, where research scientists occasionally find refutations of Darwins theories in their results. The merovingian dynasty - the blue blooded dynasty - was said to have come from the marriage of princess Mero to a Fish-man. The daughter of King Lot, an ancient 'King of Edinburgh' was also said to have married a merman and was persecuted and thrown into a river at ladyburn near North berwick, south of Edinburgh. Newtons best works were probably on astrology and magic, but a group of scientific 'Fellows' came calling at his house the day he died and burned every notebook they could find that was not 'materialistic'. Andrew Hennessey DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Journalist *ucked with. From Ian Goddard.
-Caveat Lector- April 13, 1999 After a jury in Michigan did what it could do to ensure pain and suffering for the terminally ill by convicting Dr. Jack Kevorkian, another jury in New York just did what it could do to send the message to journalists that efforts to break the Flight 800 cover-up and provide America with a second opinion (other than the government's) about evidence in that case will not be tolerated. James Sanders and his wife were just convicted for James having accepted patches of seat cushion taken from the wreckage so that independent tests could be conducted so as to give the world a second opinion. The message is clear: one nation, one investigation. Some argue: "But if someone has evidence proving it was a missile hit, why don't they bring it forward?" Right, I mean who wouldn't want to end up in jail? Info On The Federal War on James and Elizabeth Sanders: http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/sanderscase.html The Residue Sanders Tested Was NOT Glue, as FBI/Media Claim: http://www.accessone.com/~rivero/CRASH/TWA/BASS/bassett.html http://www.multipull.com/twacasefile/residues.html http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/2639/no_res.html ==Associated Press Report == 2 Convicted in TWA Evidence TheftBy Pat MiltonAssociated Press Writer Tuesday, April 13, 1999; 6:07 p.m. EDT UNIONDALE, N.Y. (AP) -- A self-styled investigative reporter and his wife were convicted Tuesday of stealing scraps of upholstery from the wreckage of TWA Flight 800 in an effort to prove his theory that the airliner was shot down by a Navy missile. A federal jury took two hours to convict James Sanders, 53, and his wife Elizabeth, 52, a former TWA training supervisor, of conspiracy and aiding and abetting thethefts. The couple from Williamsburg, Va., could get up to 10 years in prison when sentenced July 9. ``I'm shocked,'' Sanders said in a telephone interview after the verdict. ``I'm confident we will prevail. I'm more shocked for my wife, Liz.'' Sanders said he ``wouldn't have started down this road if I wasn't prepared to go to jail. It sends an incredible strong message to journalists.'' All 230 people aboard Flight 800 were killed when the Boeing 747 exploded over the Atlantic on July 17, 1996, just minutes after leaving New York's Kennedy Airport on a flight to Paris. The government has said the plane was destroyed by a fuel tank fire of as-yet unknown origin but has rejected sabotage, terrorism or ``friendly fire'' from the Navy. In newspaper articles and a 1997 book, ``The Downing of TWA Flight 800,'' Sanders claimed stains on seat upholstery taken from the plane were formed by missile fuel, bolstering his theory. The FBI said the stainswere glue. The government's case relied heavily on the testimony of Terrell Stacey, a former TWA pilot who admitted helping Sanders by stealing crash-related documents and scraps of the seat covering from the hangar where investigators had reassembled the plane's wreckage. Stacey, who had flown the plane the day before the crash and was assigned by TWA to assist in the investigation, testified against the Sanderses in exchange for being allowed to plead guilty to amisdemeanor theft charge. Sanders' attorney, Bruce Maffeo, said he will appeal. He said Sanders was ``a journalist trying to get the truth out'' and made no attempt to hide the fact that the evidence was passed to him. END OF AP REPORT Two miscarriages of justice, one day! Shame on US! Bill DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Bloodlined Breeder Women Betrayed
-Caveat Lector- Apparently Judith has taken her writing to a venue where it is more appreciated and her little ground here on CTRL is now empty and barren. God how I miss her! Those were the heydays of conspiracy theory at its zenith! -JY DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Free Trade Is Not Free
-Caveat Lector- Carl Amedio wrote: Free Trade Is Not Free by Patrick J. Buchanan Two Sides to NAFTA on Display at ... MJ: NAFTA is NOT Free Trade, though is touted as such which is perhaps the problem, but typical in today's confusion. Regard$, --MJ A totalitarian state thrives on propaganda, and there is no more effective way to limit thought than to control the language itself. By changing definitions of words through continual association, any serious discussion involving the concepts that the words represents becomes hopelessly muddled. The words "democracy," "hate" and "racism" immediately comes to mind. -- Thomas Sowell DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Another view of Kosovo.
-Caveat Lector- Bombin' Bill going mano a mano against Sadistic Slobo: we like that By Barbara Ehrenreich Thursday April 8, 1999 A round of applause, please, for the Serbian people. No matter how often they're pounded with bombs and told their leader is 'Hitler' incarnate, none of them seems to be launching impeachment proceedings. Instead, they mock us on CNN by holding up placards saying: 'Sorry, we didn't know it [the downed US plane] was invisible.' Or they gather in Belgrade for patriotic rock concerts featuring some of the very same performers who, only three years ago, were busily rocking against Milosevic. In an instructive contrast to Nato, which fights only when the weather is agreeable and preferably after all anti-aircraft installations have been demolished - the Serb civilians even don bulls-eyes and form human chains over vulnerable bridges. Confronted with this extraordinary surge of Serbian solidarity, Nato spokesman Jamie Shea opined that they'll get over it soon enough. A follow-up question, if you don't mind, Mr Shea: if the Serbs are still smarting from their defeat at the battle of Kosovo more than 600 years ago, what makes you think they're going to forget the bombings of Belgrade, Novi Sad and Aleksinac in a couple of weeks? The historical analogies are far from encouraging. When the Luftwaffe bombed London, you may recall that the English failed to rise up against Winston Churchill. Similarly, the obsessive bombing of Iraq by the United States has yet to produce a mighty pro-democracy, anti-Saddam, movement on the ground. In fact, persecution - real or perceived - is the very seedbed of nationalist enthusiasm. Observe how the Australians still get misty-eyed over the battle of Gallipoli, at which they were soundly whipped. You don't have to read Serbo-Croatian to understand what the Serb rockers and demonstrators are trying to tell us: namely, that there's more than one person in Serbia. But the Nato assault has so far been conducted against a single individual, just as the US likes to imagine that Iraq contains only one occupant, Saddam Hussein. It's the one-man theory of the nation state, and its effect is to transform war into an S&M psychodrama: now that we've degraded 'his' infrastructure and knocked out 'his' supply lines, will he finally break? Will he cry uncle? No one in Nato seems to have realised that when Milosevic looks out of his window, he doesn't just see mangled bridges and smashed ministries, he sees the same militant crowds that we do. Imagine the warm feeling it must give him to know that this time the crowds aren't calling for him to be ousted, they're hailing him as the saviour of his country. The one-man theory of the nation state undoubtedly has its charms. For one thing, it eliminates the psychological imponderable that is nationalism, which can be ignored while we concentrate on the individual psychopathology of a Slobodan or a Saddam. It furthermore eases any guilt occasioned by civilian casualties, since those civilians never fully existed in the first place. Finally, it restores the lost glories of the days of individual combat, when brave men rode out on horseback to joust with the other side's warrior heroes, while the foot soldiers fell back in awe. Which would you rather watch on TV: Nato vs the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, or Bombin' Bill going mano a mano against the Sadistic Slobo? The alternative, multi-person, theory of the state is not only conceptually more challenging, it would require an entirely different approach to conflict. You'd start, not with bombs, but with an information blitz, aimed at an entire population. If, for example, the Serb people think the Kosovans are fleeing Nato bombs, not Serbian forces, why not deluge them with faxes and e-mails? Maybe an information war wouldn't work, but with a literate, PC-possessing population, there's no excuse for not giving it a try. Next, you'd bend over backwards not to injure a single Serbian civilian, even if this means passing on a tempting downtown target or two. If peace is the aim, then the peacekeeper's rule should be the same as the medical professional's: first, do no harm. If all this sounds disgustingly wimpy, bear in mind that the current Nato strategy seems designed to turn the children in Belgrade bomb shelters into tomorrow's international terrorist menace. In the end, of course, we bomb because bombing is what we know how to do. But here another historical analogy may apply: in the Hundred Years war, the French knights tried to battle English longbowmen by charging them, on horseback, in the usual knightly fashion. Again and again - at Crecy and through Agincourt - the French knights charged very nicely indeed, and were duly slaughtered by English arrows. So yes, Nato does a commendable job of bombing. Now let's see it try to accomplish something useful. Barbara Ehrenreich is the author of Blood Rites: Origins And History Of The Passion Of War, publ
[CTRL] Social Democracy Betrayed.
-Caveat Lector- LE MONDE DIPLOMATIQUE - April 1999 Social democracy betrayed by IGNACIO RAMONET For the first time since it was established in 1949, the North Atlantic Treaty Organisation is engaged in a war against a country that has not committed any act of aggression outside its own frontiers. And for the first time since 1945, European forces are bombing a sovereign European state. The decision to go to war, announced on 23 March 1999, was described by NATO Secretary-General Javier Solana, one-time leader of the Spanish Socialist Workers' Party, as a "moral duty". Mr Solana is supported in this decision principally by the French, German, Italian and UK heads of government, Lionel Jospin, Gerhard Schröder, Massimo d'Alema and Tony Blair - all four of them eminent proponents of social democracy in Europe. They all agreed to the military solution proposed by Washington as the "only way" to break the deadlock in the Kosovo peace negotiations, even though it is common knowledge - confirmed by US experience in Iraq since 1991 - that crises of this kind cannot be settled by air strikes and any attempt to send in land forces to occupy Kosovo would be extremely costly in terms of human life and might extend the conflict to the whole Balkan peninsula. The crisis is largely the result of Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic's refusal to grant Kosovo a broad measure of political autonomy. But he has widespread support for this stand among the Serbian population who believe Kosovo should remain within Serbia for cultural reasons and feel a sense of solidarity with the Serb minority there. So this is not, as NATO propaganda would have us believe, a clash between an isolated President Milosevic on one side and the allied forces and the Serbian people, ripe for "liberation", on the other. The situation is more complicated. Mr Solana justified the decision on the ground that we must prevent an authoritarian regime from continuing to oppress its own people in Europe (1). Does this mean that we must resort to force to oblige Turkey, also a European country and a member of NATO, to grant autonomy to Kurdistan and end an oppression that has already caused thousands of deaths among Kurdish civilians? Is there by any chance a double standard here? How could the social democrat leaders, heirs to Jean Jaurès and a long tradition of respect for international law, yield to pressure from Washington and embark on a military escapade that has not a shred of international legitimacy? There is no UN Resolution expressly authorising the use of force in the region and the UN Security Council, the supreme arbiter on international conflicts, was not consulted before the first strikes were launched and has not agreed to the use of armed force against Serbia. And finally, it did not occur to any of these leaders to explain themselves to their national parliaments before going to war, let alone ask their permission to commit their armed forces to the conflict. Thus socialism, one of the great unifying myths of mankind, has once again been betrayed by the social democrat leaders of Europe. The resignation of German Finance Minister Oskar Lafontaine on 12 March 1999 had already afforded spectacular proof of the bankruptcy of social democracy and its inability to provide an alternative to the ruling neo-liberal orthodoxy that now finds even the Keynesian approach that enabled President Roosevelt to bring the US through the economic crisis of the 1930s too left-wing. Oskar Lafontaine stood accused by his fellow-socialists of five cardinal sins: wanting to re-launch Europe, advocating a fairer tax system, criticising the European Central Bank, calling for reform of the international monetary system and, earlier, asking the Bundesbank to lower interest rates in order to reduce the cost of borrowing, stimulate consumption and combat unemployment. It is impossible not to see his departure as yet another sign of the ideological collapse of social democracy. The movement has completely lost its bearings. It is steering a course as best it can, obsessed with the next crisis looming up and devoid of any sound theoretical basis - unless you count those catalogues of renunciation and reneging, The Third Way by Blair's adviser, Anthony Giddens, and The Right Choice by Schröder's mentor, Bodo Hombach. For social democracy, which holds undisputed sway in all the major countries of Europe, politics means economics, economics means finance, and finance means the markets. That is why it is keen to encourage privatisation, the dismantling of the public sector, and concentrations and mergers of giant corporations. It is willing to renounce the social compact and has abandoned all idea of full employment or eradicating poverty, of seeking to alleviate the plight of the EU's 18 million unemployed and 50 million poor. Social democracy won the intellectual battle after the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989. The conservatives lost and are preparing to
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] War Between Image and Word]
-Caveat Lector- Kris Millegan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/14/99 1:23:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >the original purpose of letters > > recording the changes of the moon. MHO > > Om > K > Quite possibly... Either that or some sort of star chart. The stone circles and other megalithic monuments seem to have been mnemonic tools to help worshippers "encourage" the stars to follow their proper paths and change the seasons on schedule. (Such tools as the zodiac would have originally served a similar purpose.) There is also some evidence that as far back as the Paleolithic people were recording moon phases; given the physiological effects of groups of women living together, such records probably started when a woman recognized the relationship between menstruation and the moon's phases. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hungary/Yugoslavia]
-Caveat Lector- Teo One Thousand <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -Caveat Lector- > > In a message dated 4/14/99 3:10:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > << These people are monsters; and this began when our government permitted > over 100 Nazi scientists nd doctors to enter this country with von > Braun.and the link to Spandau was evident. > > Bye there > > Colleen > > Your stuff is keeping me awake all night. Twice, I have tried to turn > this off, but find it imossible > >> > > Sorry about the keeping you awake part, but you are correct on the Nazi > influence angle. But it did not BEGIN there just got a good leg up. If you > look at our past you will see the US at the forefront of Eugenics research, > as well as human experimentation much earlier than the Nazi's and one could > even argue that the racial philosophy of the Nazi's and all those who came > later, while firmly rooted in the idea of "racial purity" and, as such, > inherent to all "racial" groups to one extent or another, was firmly built > upon the foundation that was laid by the USA. We "made" the Nazi's and > merely accepted our "children" into the family after the war was over. > Teo1000 > PS Keep reading and commenting I like to get feedback from my posts to let me > know that SOMEONE reads them :) > Thanks > It wasn't just the Germans brought in by Operation Paperclip, either. We "acquired the services" of a large number of Japanese scientists and medical personnel who had been conducting their own experiments on human subjects--not, of course, in the Home Islands, but in occupied Korea (Chosen) and Manchuria (Manchukuo). With regard to the US influence on the Nazis, our particular contribution was in the area of legal codes. The first of the notorious Nuremberg Laws, the one which authorized the sterilization of "racial inferiors" and "congenital defectives", was patterned directly after the Model Eugenics Code published by the American Eugenics Association...which had been adopted by 47 out of the 48 states. (The exception was Pennsylvania, and that was only because Governor Gifford Pinchot didn't like the particular version of the sterilization law that the legislature passed. He supported the eugenics movement quite happily otherwise.) Hitler was quite vocal in his admiration of American eugenicists like Madison Grant and Lothrop Stoddard. Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Bloodlined Breeder Women Betrayed
-Caveat Lector- BLOODLINED BREEDER WOMEN BETRAYED = (CNNS, 04/14/99) -- An article by "Judith ABR" discloses the strong possibility that "breeder women" are being exploited by criminal syndicates. [1] According to the author, she has been routinely targeted by unscrupulous persons who inseminate her, then steal her recently conceived fetus, and next implant her developing fetus into less fertile women. The claim has the ring of truth. More honest persons have been widely reported to be paying tall, high-IQ women as much as $50,000 for use of their ova. A black market in such greatly coveted ova, given economic laws of supply and demand, would be normally expected. For the less honest, just as they purchase auto parts from "chop shops," so too they'd have no qualms about ova piracy. The author says that she has learned "that my fetuses may have been 'transferred into' other women by specialized crime syndicates who could make a great deal of money farming out my ovum, utilizing advanced technologies and drugs." "With sterility rates skyrocketing... harvesting women is a very lucrative business," writes the author. There may also be a "master race," eugenics angle: "Some women appear to be 'marked' as bloodlined breeders by particular eugenics rings." For whatever reason, as in the case of pedigreed dogs, a whole group of women may be "the chosen" of amateur "master race" eugenicists. ---<< Notes >>--- [1] "Breeder-Bloodline Cults," by Judith ABR. Paranoia magazine, Spring 1999, issue 20. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Israeliana: 04-14-99
-Caveat Lector- >From ArabicNews.CoM Sharon, Netanyahu deny Russian mediation with Syria Syria, Politics, 4/14/99 Israeli Foreign Minister Ariel Sharon has denied news published by the Israeli daily Haaretz on Tuesday that he asked the Russian leadership to convey a verbal message to Syria including a proposal to resume negotiations between Syria and Israel. At the meantime, the office of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu also denied such news. Israel Radio quoted Sharon as saying in a special interview that this news is null, adding that such an issue was not debated in his talks with officials in Moscow. Sharon added during the interview that he opposes withdrawal from the Golan in the context of a settlement with Syria and opposes withdrawal from or in the Golan. Sharon added that he supports Israeli withdrawal from Lebanon without being linked to a settlement with Syria. He added that his talks with the Russians dealt with how to urge Syria to stop its aid to the Hizbullah party. On Tuesday, the Israeli daily Haaretz said that Sharon asked Russia to convey a verbal message from Israel to Syria including a proposal to resume negotiations between the two sides according to two stages. The first stage is based on withdrawal from south Lebanon. Such a withdrawal starts and ends before and after the Israeli elections and it is preferable that Russia will carry out the mediation, while during the second stage discussions will deal with Israel's withdrawal from the Golan and determining the security and peace agreements between Israel and Syria. This stage would start after the reelection of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. The Israeli paper said Sharon's proposal did not indicate the volume of the area from which Israel will withdraw or the response to the Syrian demands to return back to the 1967 border. Estimates note that Syria will reject these proposals. Haaretz added that the question of the Russian mediation between Israel and Syria was on top of topics tackled by Sharon in Moscow. The paper, on the other hand, said Syria finds that Russia cannot carry out such a mediation without an active role played by Washington, saying, "Damascus understands that without U.S. involvement in the process, there would be neither a carrot nor a stick in Russian hands to force Israel to complete the second stage of the deal." The reasons for President al-Assad's postponed visit to Russia Syria, Reporter's View, 4/14/99 The visit of Syrian President Hafez al-Assad to Moscow was important in its timing and then in postponing this visit so current international developments would not make the visit lose its significance. News of the visit was aired by Moscow before Damascus, who kept silent until the Russian ambassador in Damascus volunteered to reveal some of the secret in a press conference in which he tackled the issue of the sale of Russian armaments to Syria. The Russian ambassador then said that nobody has the right to oppose this arms deal and that Russia had sent a note of protest to Washington in this regard, referring to the US plan to sanction Russian companies involved in the transaction. Only then Damascus did break its silence on the eve of the declared date of the visit, saying it was necessitated by the need to rebalance contradicted international relations and to reactivate the Russian role in the Middle East peace process. Al-Assad's decision to postpone the visit was wise indeed (is in light of) the Russians have been deeply involved in the Yugoslav issue, the intensified pressures on President Yeltsin and Sharon's visit to Moscow. But most possibly the direct reason behind the postponement was the persistence of the Russian side to receive Israeli Foreign Minister Ariel Sharon whose visit was coincided with President al-Assad's set visit to Moscow, especially as Sharon put on top of agenda of his talks with Russian officials the issue of resuming military cooperation between Syria and Russia. What is also more possible is that Russia preferred to listen to Sharon instead of signing a large arms deal with President al-Assad in subjugation to US and Israeli pressures not to resume military cooperation between Moscow and Damascus. Israel waiting for final plans to minimize troops in south Lebanon Lebanon, Politics, 4/14/99 Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Arens is now waiting for the final army plans to minimize down to one thousand soldiers the number of Israeli troops in occupied south Lebanon, sources said Tuesday. The sources added that the Monday attack in the Beaufort Castle where an Israeli soldier was killed in a mine blast planted by Hizbullah has not changed the Israeli decision to bring down the number of soldiers serving in south Lebanon. Arens told the Israeli Knesset defense and foreign affairs committee on Monday that he has not received any criticism from within the army of his plan to minimize the Israeli military presence in south Lebanon. The m
Re: [CTRL] The World's Wickedest Women - Elizabeth Bathory
-Caveat Lector- Dear kris wasnt there a roger corman movie in the 60s made about Bathory? also-wasnt there a male equivalent called Gilles de Rais or something like that? (tho i believe he lived in an earlier time) ? liz DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] The World's Wickedest Women - La Voisin
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: The World's Wickedest Women Margaret Nichols Octopus Books Limited©1984 59 Grosvenor Street, London W1 Berkely Books, New York ISBN 0-425-10983-6 - La Voisin Queen of all the witches in France during the reign of the Sun King, Louis XIV, was a woman called Catherine Deshayes Voisin, better known simply as La Voisin. Some of the most famous and dazzling women of the day, Madame de Montespan, the King's mistress, among them, were known to have sought her help through the black arts. She thought herself invincible as she dabbled in wickedness. "Nothing is impossible to me," she told one of her clients. "Only another god can understand my power." Only when the miasma of her dark deeds threatened to touch the King himself was she brought to justice in a great purge which swept up half the witches in Paris and aired a great many scandals at high level. La Voisin was a short, plump woman, not unattractive apart from her eyes which were piercing, like those of a bird of prey. She was said to have inherited her powers from her mother who practiced as a sorceress and was so famous that even the Emperor of Austria and the King of England had asked her advice. She lived in a neat, secluded villa in the Paris suburb of St. Denis and claimed that her occupation was most innocent. I am a practitioner of chiromancy, a student of physiognomy," she would boast. She was indeed an uncanny fortune teller, skilled at crystal gazing, reading the Tarot cards, reading palms and reading faces. "The lines on a face are far easier to read than the lines of the hand," she would say. "Passion and anxiety are difficult to conceal." She made up love potions and happiness powders and sold them in silk and taffeta pouches, prescribed herbs for unwanted pregnancies and supplied aphrodisiacs for lagging lovers or husbands. When challenged with far worse things she had the gall to say, I rendered an account of my arts to the Vicars General of Paris and to several doctors at the Sorbonne, to whom I had been sent for questioning, and they found nothing to criticize." She had indeed been to the Sorbonne to discuss astrology with some of the professors and had paid a social call on the rector of the University of Paris. She even attended early mass at her parish church. How she must had laughed for she was queen of the most powerful coven of witches in Paris and dedicated to evil. Only her enemy, La Bosse, could be compared with her. At first she had sought her clients among the common people but as her fame as a sorceress spread so did her ambition. She was brought in[t]o contact with high society and the court. Moral restraints, she found, did not matter greatly to the very rich. Men and Women of great eminence would pay anything to get rid of an unwanted partner, to eliminate a rival or ensure the continuance of their power. Poison was her specialty. She had secured the services of two women who were capable of genius when it came to making up prescriptions. They provided La Voisin with 57 different poisons from which she could improvise in hundreds of ways. By varying the fatal doses she gave to clients she was sure that the symptoms would be different. This meant that no one could establish a pattern of death and trace the poison back to her. Curiously enough, she had made several attempts to finish off her own husband, a bankrupt jewel merchant, as she had taken as her lover an infamous criminal character calling himself Le Sage, but each time she failed. He had an ally and protector in La Voisin's maid, Margot. The poisoned dishes were usually served up to him at the family table. Once Margot saved him by jogging his elbow just as he raised a lethal bowl of soup to his lips. Another time she gave him a counter poison which worked well enough but left him with incurable hiccups and a bleeding nose. It was a great joke in La Voisin's circle of intimates. "Bon-jour Madame," they would greet her. "How is your husband? Not dead yet?" The most shocking and repulsive aspect of what went on in the demure villa at St. Denis was in the saying of Black Mass for which she provided priest, altar, vestments and sacrifice. For these ceremonies and seances; she wore a dramatic Vestment specially designed and woven for her which included a vast cloak of crimson velvet elaborately embroidered with the double head and wingspread of golden eagles. The same motif was stitched in pure gold thread on her slippers. She admitted at her trial that she had a furnace in the garden where she had disposed of the tiny corpses of hundreds of infants or embryos, aborted, premature, still-born and newborn, that had been used in the Black Mass. She scattered their ashes on her garden. It was in 1679 that Louvois, the King's Minister of War sent him a secret message saying that the woman called La Voisin had started to talk too much. She had said openly that Madame De Vivonne and Madame de la Mothe had come to her for someth
[CTRL] The World's Wickedest Women - Elizabeth Bathory
-Caveat Lector- An excerpt from: The World's Wickedest Women Margaret Nichols Octopus Books Limited©1984 59 Grosvenor Street, London W1 Berkely Books, New York ISBN 0-425-10983-6 - Elizabeth Bathory The Countess Elizabeth Bathory who lived in the Carpathian mountains in the 16th century was one of the original vampires who inspired Bram Stoker's legend of Dracula. She was Hungarian by birth. Records give her entry into the world as 1561. As a girl she was beautiful with long hair and an exquisite complexion. She was married off to an aristocratic soldier when she was fifteen and became Mistress of the Castle of Csejthe in the Carpathians. Life in the dark, gloomy Csejthe Castle, while her husband was away on his various military campaigns, became very boring indeed. She was determined to liven things up. First she gathered round her a sinister band of witches, sorcerers and alchemists who taught her the black arts. Then, armed with her special flesh-tearing silver pincers, a manual of tortures her husband had used when fighting the Turks and a taste for flagellation learned from her aunt, she set out to indulge herself and while away the lonely hours. When her husband died in 1604 she had reached the difficult age of 43. She longed for a new lover to replace him but her reflection in the mirror showed her that time and indulgence had not improved her looks. One day she slapped the face of a servant girl and drew blood with her nails. She was convinced that that part of her body where the girl's blood had dripped was much fresher and younger than before. It only needed the alchemists to add their opinion and she was convinced that drinking and bathing in the blood of young virgins would preserve her beauty forever. So, at the dead of night, the Countess and her cronies would tear about the countryside hunting for girls. They would be taken back to the castle, hung in chains and their blood used for the countess' bath, the finest saved for her to drink. The terrible woman carried on like this for five years until she began to realize the blood of peasant girls had not been terribly effective. In 1609 she turned to the daughters of her own class. Offering to take in 25 girls at a time to teach them social graces, she soon had a flourishing academy. Helped as usual by her peasant procuress, Dorotta Szentes, known as Dorka, she treated the "pupils" with the same inhuman cruelty as she had treated the others. But this time she became too careless. The bodies of four girls were thrown over the castle walls. Before she realized her mistake villagers collected them and took them away to be identified. Her secret was out. News of her reign of terror finally reached the ears of the Hungarian Emperor, Matthias II. He ordered that the Countess be brought to trial. But as an aristocrat she could not be arrested, so Parliament passed a new Act so that she would not be able to slip through their hands. At her hearing in 1610 it was said she had murdered 600 girls. Dorka and her witches were burnt at the stake. The Countess escaped execution because of her noble birth. But she was condemned to a living deathwalled up in a tiny room of her castle and kept alive by scraps of food pushed through the bars. She died four years later without a word of remorse. pps. 152-154 - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: FL800 Journalist Convicted!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/14/99 3:14:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << This is a real tragedy. Teo1000 >> You're right Teo, it is. Apparently no American citizen can make an independent investigation of any matter our Government decides is private. Life in the United States is getting more and more like life in Russia under Uncle Joe. Just consider this decision as another nail in Freedom's coffin. Prudy >> Indeed. The ultimate expression, we thought then, of the power of the government to quash independent investigation and tamper with evidence was at the Federal Building in OKC. Here we have it again. What the Federal Government says is the law, any questions? If so, get in line for federal penitentiary. No questions? That's good, nice sheeple. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Do you really think the US cares about Albanians?
http://www.alertnet.org/ERPub.nsf/PostedPub/1eefee9554cbe051852566ec00267010?OpenDocument RTRS-Kosovo refugees spurn U.S. rations as inedible By Matt Spetalnick KUKES, Albania, April 11 (Reuters) - Kosovo refugees are throwing away U.S.-donated humanitarian rations by the thousands and have even burned some to keep warm, complaining that the food is inedible and has made people sick. Piles of unopened packages -- each labelled "A Food Gift from the People of the United States of America" -- litter the grounds of makeshift camps housing many of the 150,000 ethnic Albanians who have poured across the border in recent weeks. "We know the Americans want to help, but the food is just no good," said18-year-old Arolelina Ajazi. A U.S. Defence Department spokesman had trumpeted the meatless, 2,200-calorie meals as enough to feed one refugee for a full day and "suitable for all faiths". Desperate refugees fought each other for the packages, officially known as Humanitarian Daily Rations, when they were first distributed off the backs of trucks several days ago. But some later said the meals -- which include items such as three-bean casserole, legume stew and vegetarian goulash which are foreign to their normal diet -- made their children vomit. "We don't eat it because the children get a fever and throw up and are going to be poisoned," said Selvie Gashi, 27. Many of the packages were discarded in fetid trenches and streams filled with garbage and excrement. Several families were seen huddling around campfires using boxes of rations to help fuel the flames. The refugees, who were expelled from Yugoslavia in a Serb crackdown following the launching of a NATO bombing campaign, are used to a diet based on potatoes, rice and beans. Medical experts said similar problems were reported during a humanitarian mission in Somalia, where U.S. military rations were too rich for the local population. Officials of the World Food Programme, which has handed out 80,000 of the U.S. rations, were unaware of any complaints but acknowledged that the food might have caused stomach problems. "Actually, I have heard that refugees prefer the French humanitarian rations," said Gemmo Lodesani, head of the World Food Programme mission in Kukes. He contended, however, that even the parts of the rations such as cookies and crackers which the refugees appeared to have accepted had provided enough nutrition to save lives. U.S. officials say the rations, a civilian version of military ready-to-eat meals, are suitable for all religions. Most of the refugees are Moslems.
Re: [CTRL] War Between Image and Word
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/14/99 1:23:45 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >the original purpose of letters recording the changes of the moon. MHO Om K DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Free Trade Is Not Free
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/14/99 10:52:16 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Free Trade Is Not Free >> DUHH Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Hungary/Yugoslavia
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/14/99 3:10:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << These people are monsters; and this began when our government permitted over 100 Nazi scientists nd doctors to enter this country with von Braun.and the link to Spandau was evident. Bye there Colleen Your stuff is keeping me awake all night. Twice, I have tried to turn this off, but find it imossible >> Sorry about the keeping you awake part, but you are correct on the Nazi influence angle. But it did not BEGIN there just got a good leg up. If you look at our past you will see the US at the forefront of Eugenics research, as well as human experimentation much earlier than the Nazi's and one could even argue that the racial philosophy of the Nazi's and all those who came later, while firmly rooted in the idea of "racial purity" and, as such, inherent to all "racial" groups to one extent or another, was firmly built upon the foundation that was laid by the USA. We "made" the Nazi's and merely accepted our "children" into the family after the war was over. Teo1000 PS Keep reading and commenting I like to get feedback from my posts to let me know that SOMEONE reads them :) Thanks DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] War Between Image and Word
-Caveat Lector- Alamaine Ratliff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>Literacy, Shlain is convinced, is the force that dethroned the goddess, demoted women, and set the course for 5,000 years of patriarchal oppression,intolerance, and misogyny. How is this possible? Because, Shlain believes, there was "something in the way people acquired this new skill that changed the brain's actual structure."<< The *invention* of the alphabet surely preceded the "masculinist revolution" by many centuries. The original purpose of letters was magical: by creating a verbal snapshot of an event or an entity, you could control that entity. (This still works--only today we call it "diagnostics" or "cladistics" or "taxonomy".) At this point, the Goddess and her hierarchs could still control the very potent tool represented by the alphabet. The true revolution occurred when someone (probably a man) realized that you could also use letters to write down everything from poems to law codes, thereby making what had been limited to privileged initiates available to anyone who made the effort to learn to read. This happened at different times in different places; it seems to have taken place first in Sumeria, where the first bureaucracy was also created. (This was not a coincidence. Bureaucracy requires forms, and forms require writing.) In Greece, the change happened about the time of Homer--Mary Renault, in *The Praise Singer*, has her protagonist complain that these kids today, with their new-fangled literacy, can't memorize worth a damn. Shortly thereafter, the Athenians voted to disenfranchise their women... Bob = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serb militia atrocity: Mass rape in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 99-04-14 17:08:34 EDT, you write: << I don't call 911; I call 1911. >> I like that nessie! Good one! Someone should make a bumpersticker of that one! Ms.CountryLady DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serb militia atrocity: Mass rape in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: >the Internet will be exploited There's not much we can do about it. TPTB built the internet TO exploit. What we CAN do something about is our own exploitation. There is no reason we should allow ourselves to be exploited. The real war is not being fought in the Balkans. It's not being fought on TV. It's being fought between our ears. You're dead right about both sides. Deception, exploitation, in fact the whole propoganda syndrom, is not a characteristic of sides but of war itself. Be it aggressive war or defensive war, war is war. It cannot be won without lies. I'd like to point out that this is no pacifist speaking here. I'm armed and dangerous, and proud of it. I don't call 911; I call 1911. But I see a clear and distinct line between aggression and self defence. It's a moral line. These are moral issues we are discussing. It is wrong to aggress, even if the reason is right, which is most assuredly not the case in the Balkans. NATO is engaged in an act of naked imperialist aggression, nothing more, nothing less. It is right to defend yourself. Serbs have fought a purely defensive war from day one. They have also been losing since day one. All this talk about Serb expansion is NATO propaganda. It is NATO that is expanding. Serb held territory has been steadily contracting since Day One. Aside from the moral issues here there are purely pragmatic issues as well. This is an unwinnable war. While NATO is fighting a tactical war, FRY is fighting a strategic war. We are not safe at home on the couch watching Serbs die on TV. We too are targets, and if we let our leaders push this insanity far enough, we too will be victims. They don't need an air force to bomb us. They have Serbs on the ground right here in America. They also have an excellent, highly sophisticated secret service, some of whom are also on the ground right here in America. Do they have any of those suitcase nukes that Lebed reported missing? Who knows? Do they need them to strike us here in our homes? Not hardly. One Serb, one Bic and one tank car of propane equals one hell of a bang, literally for a buck. FAE: look it up. Then there's the bathtub anthrax. The list goes on. If we corner these guys they'll run right up our leg. In a very real sense, I can't blame them. Corner me, see what happens. Better still, don't. A peaceful solution can always be found if both sides want one. Serbs, Serbians, in fact all of FRY were living in peace and minding their own buisiness until NATO, specifically Germany, started this war by backing the fascist successionists in Croatia. For a sense of the historical process involved, study up on the Ustashi, Bishop Hudal and the Ratline. Then there's the matter of refugees. The current refugee crisis was CREATED by NATO. There are many, many more Serb refugees than there are ethnic Albanian refugees. Many have been essentially homeless since they were driven from their ancestors' land in western Slovonia and later from the Krijina in the first ethnic cleansing of the war. An ethnic Albanian life or a Croat life or a Bosniak life is worth not one iota more than a Serb life. A life is a life is a life. If NATO was in the Balkans to help refugees they would have sided with FRY when Tudjman declared independance and immediately set his fascist dogs on the Serbs of Slovonia. NATO is not in the Balkans to help refugees. NATO is in the Balkans to make money. War is, above all else, a BUSINESS. Period. End of story. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] To the Victor ...
-Caveat Lector- >From Int'l Herald Tribune Paris, Wednesday, April 14, 1999 Escalation of Air War Underscores Its Flaws Low-Tech Serb Tactics Stymie NATO Plan By Joseph Fitchett International Herald Tribune PARIS - NATO's announcement of major reinforcements, confronting Serbia with a U.S.-led air armada of more than 1,000 warplanes, underscored signs Tuesday that the alliance's initial battle plan had failed to deliver the expected results and needed an urgent escalation in firepower to offer a realistic prospect of military victory in Kosovo. ''Our high technology weapons' performance would be devastating against a sophisticated adversary fighting our kind of war,'' a North Atlantic Treaty Organization commander acknowledged privately, ''but they work much less well in a politically constrained campaign against Serbians who are skillfully using nearly obsolescent weapons to fight in ways we had almost forgotten about.'' Serbian forces, for example, have resorted to firing their surface-to-air missiles using radar mounted on each battery. That method reduces the effectiveness of the missiles in comparison to modern systems integrating individual batteries with remote radars that provide more time for aiming and firing. But missile crews operating independently only turn on their radars briefly, making it harder for warplanes to home in for the kill using anti-radar missiles. Even with sharply reduced capabilities, the surviving missiles pose a potent threat to low-flying warplanes, dissuading NATO from ordering ground-attack fighters to pursue low-level attacks to kill tanks. Serbia, meanwhile, also has broken up its armored units so that tanks operate alone or in pairs, reducing their exposure as targets. Senior officials in Washington said Monday that the Pentagon planned to approve the deployment of 300 additional warplanes. The added planes, which were requested by General Wesley Clark, NATO's top military commander, would increase the number of U.S. and NATO aircraft committed to the campaign to nearly 1,000, more than double the number - 430 - that the alliance had on hand when it began the strikes on March 24. The White House spokesman said Tuesday that Defense Secretary William Cohen might ask President Bill Clinton for authority to call up some military reserve forces. The spokesman, Joe Lockhart gave no figures and did not outline what the reservists would be doing. In miscalculating the impact of air strikes and underestimating Serbian abilities to elude a knockout blow and exploit Western blind spots, the initial NATO battle plan has created an uncomfortably exposed position for the Clinton administration and European governments. The lack of visible progress in the war has triggered calls for ground forces from hawks and threatens to fuel pressure from European moderates for political accommodation over Kosovo. A fundamental mistake in the Western approach, an increasing number of experts say, was the decision by President Bill Clinton and the other NATO leaders to announce at the outset that they would not use ground forces. That assured Slobodan Milosevic, the Yugoslav leader, that he would have time for a sweeping ethnic cleansing of Kosovo - on a scale that Western capitals say they never suspected possible. ''Once Milosevic heard that he was not going to face Western troops,'' a British official said this weekend, ''it would have been natural for men with the mentality of his commanders to decide that they could take more punishment than the West was ready to dish out.'' Militarily, the decision meant that NATO lost the advantage that even the threat of a combination of air and land forces would have provided. As a French official said, ''Your armor and other forces on the ground pose a threat obliging the adversary to operate in strength, which exposes him to air attack.'' But Serbian forces remain masters of the terrain in Kosovo. General Clark said Tuesday that some units were regrouping and others were digging bunkers to conceal their tanks and artillery, apparently hoping to ride out the air war and deter any NATO ground incursion with the threat of sharp resistance. ''Militarily and psychologically, Milosevic has made some gains, and NATO may not be able to turn the tables in time unless we can start operating more smartly,'' a U.S. planner said this weekend. Sympathetic to the political leaders' view that it would have been risky to order infantry into combat from the outset, he noted that NATO could have ordered crack units into position in the Adriatic. That, he said, ''would have limited Milosevic's sense of his own impunity and room for maneuver - and meant that they were right there if and when we needed them.'' Such an approach seems to have been adopted this week as the strength of ground forces
[CTRL] Food (Un)Fitness
-Caveat Lector- << Arkansas seems to be having a few problems of late ... A<>E<>R >> >From LATimes Wednesday, April 14, 1999 21 Million Pounds of Meat, Poultry Are Declared Unfit >From Times Wire Services WASHINGTON--Federal food inspectors declared unfit for human consumption 21 million pounds of meat and poultry produced by the same Arkansas plant from which 30 million pounds of meat products were recalled three months ago. The meat, products of Thorn Apple Valley's Forrest City, Ark., plant, was being housed in warehouses and waiting to be shipped to distributors, officials with the U.S. Agriculture Department's food safety and inspection service said. "These products may contain physical, chemical and-or microbiological contaminants that render the product adulterated and not fit for human consumption," an agency release said. It did not elaborate. In January, Thorn Apple Valley recalled 30 million pounds of hot dogs and luncheon meats produced at the same Arkansas plant. That recall was because of possible contamination with the listeria bacteria. USDA officials said an investigation begun after the recall led them to halt the use of all of the remaining product. Thorn Apple Valley, based in Southfield, Mich., has about 9 million pounds of meat and poultry products on hold in warehouses across the United States. More than 12 million pounds of the products subject to recall have been exported to Russia and South Korea, and USDA officials said the appropriate international officials had been notified of the latest action. The plant has not produced hot dogs or luncheon meats since Dec. 31, when the government suspended inspection because the plant had not complied with sanitation requirements, USDA officials said. No illnesses have been reported to health officials from the recalled meat, the USDA said. The department said consumers should check their refrigerators for products bearing the codes "EST 13529" or "EST P-13529." Any such products should be returned to the place of purchase. The recall covered products produced between July and December 1998. The government's formal condemnation of the meat was praised by consumer groups as a sign that the USDA is taking tougher action against companies to protect the food supply. Copyright 1999 Los Angeles Times. All Rights Reserved >From Reuters Monday April 12 1:44 PM ET Meat, Poultry Can Now Apply For 'Organic' Label WASHINGTON (Reuters) - As the federal government nears the end of a decade of dithering over how to define organic foods, one agency said Monday it would allow some meat and poultry products to carry a national organic label. Organic fruits, vegetables, meats and other items are one of the fastest-growing segments of the U.S. food industry, appealing to aging Baby Boomers in search of healthier meals. But the U.S. Agriculture Department has been unable to come up with broad labeling regulations for what constitutes ''organically-grown'', despite a directive from Congress in 1990. In frustration, the U.S. organic industry said last month it would develop its own national guidelines to replace a jumble of conflicting state regulations. The USDA's Food Safety and Inspection Service, which has authority over just meats and poultry, said it would begin allowing labels that claim a product is ``certified organic'' by a recognized entity. Organic meat and poultry companies must submit the labels to the agency for approval, and supply documentation provided by the organic certifying entity. The agency said it will also continue to regulate labeling claims of meat products raised without added hormones or antibiotics. A separate agency within the USDA, the Agricultural Marketing Service, is expected to publish a proposed rule defining ``organic'' for all farm products later this year. A similar attempt in 1997 to establish broad rules for organic foods attracted more than a quarter-million comments from consumer groups, organic growers, food companies and others. The outpouring of opposition to the use of biotechnology in plants and animals, and to sewage sludge as fertilizer for organic foods sent the USDA back to the drawing board for another attempt at the rules. A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. -Thomas Huxley + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. DECLAR
[CTRL] Fw: Balkan Fallout From NATO Bombing
A<>E<>R The only real voyage of discovery consists not in seeking new landscapes but in having new eyes. -Marcel Proust+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Every great advance in natural knowledge has involved the absolute rejection of authority. -Thomas Huxley+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + Forwarded as information only; no endorsement to be presumed + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. section 107, this material is distributed without charge or profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving this type of information for non-profit research and educational purposes only. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 1999 3:27 PM Subject: Balkan Fallout From NATO Bombing Institute for Public Accuracy 915 National Press Building, Washington, D.C. 20045 (202) 347-0020 * http://www.accuracy.org * [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ 2 P.M. Eastern Time — Tuesday, April 13, 1999BALKAN FALLOUT FROM NATO BOMBINGVIVIAN STROMBERG, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.madre.org Executive director of MADRE (a group which has been working with multi-ethnic, democratic women's organizations in the Balkans since 1993), Stromberg said: "We must move beyond a yearning for ‘good guys' in the Yugoslav conflict and remember that behind the various political formations and armed groups are communities of people. In Kosovo, whole towns and villages are being burned out and butchered. In Serbia, people are being terrorized by NATO bombing... Both must stop; instead, the United Nations must do its job."MICHAEL SIMMONS, [EMAIL PROTECTED], http://www.afsc.org Director of European Programs for the American Friends Service Committee, which has been involved in relief efforts in the Balkans for six years, Simmons said: "NATO has been very insensitive to how disastrous the accelerated ‘ethnic cleansing' has been for already-weak Albania and Macedonia. Albania is extremely poor and has been unstable with a fragile democracy that barely has control over the entire country. Macedonia already has internal ethnic conflict between the Slavic Macedonian majority and the Albanian minority. This has the potential to do in the Balkans what the Vietnam War did to Southeast Asia. It could spill over into Albania and Macedonia. The KLA is going to be recruiting in the refugee camps. The camps will become more politicized and will be seen as legitimate targets by the Yugoslavian military... The per capita effect of the hundreds of thousands of Kosovar refugees flooding across their borders is the equivalent of something like 15 million refugees suddenly entering the United States. AFSC will continue to give aid to citizens of all of Serbia, not just the ethnic Albanians."ZOLTAN GROSSMAN, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Grossman, a geographer at the University of Wisconsin, said: "NATO claims the bombing of Yugoslavia is a ‘humanitarian intervention' to prevent the ethnic cleansing, but the bombing and the ethnic cleansing actually feed off of each other. NATO claims that it favors a multi-ethnic future for Kosovo and the rest of the Balkans -- yet a 1995 offensive by the Croatian army ethnically cleansed at least 100,000 Serbs from the Krajina region. Washington not only failed to object to that violent ethnic cleansing but actually helped facilitate it. Some of those expelled Serbs resettled in Kosovo, exacerbating the ethnic tensions that have now erupted into war. In the Dayton Accords, the U.S. continued to undermine the prospects for multi-ethnic cooperation in Bosnia. Now we are told that the NATO bombers are attacking Milosevic and ‘the Serbs.' Yet bombs have fallen on neutral Montenegro, the ethnically Hungarian northern region of Vojvodina in Yugoslavia and Serbian democratic opposition cities such as Nis. The war may yet result in the ethnic partition of what remains of Yugoslavia into two or three countries."For more information, contact at the Institute for Public Accuracy: Sam Husseini, (202) 347-0020; David Zupan, (541) 484-9167
[CTRL] [1] Crime, Big Business & Watergate
-Caveat Lector- an excerpt from: The Breaking of a President 1974 - The Nixon Connection Marvin Miller, Compiler Therapy Productions, Inc.©1975 LCCCN 7481547 --[1]-- Organized crime will put a man in the White House some dayand he won't know it untill they hand him the bill. Ralph Salerno Former New York City Police Officer CRIME, BIG BUSINESS AND WATERGATE Richard Nixon had-and still has-far more to hide than his White House tapes. For example, it is little known that the former President of our great country made his first big money by operating a little South Pacific gambling casino while he was in the Navy, and that the proceeds of this venture were invested in his first political race. The equally little-known fact that Nixon participated in a burglary of his dean's office while he was a student at Duke University Law School has also, oddly, not been commented upon in all the millions of words written about the subsequent Watergate and Ellsberg burglaries. And, most important of all, it is almost entirely unknown to the general public that Nixon has maintained contacts with people directly connected with organized crime, since his very first venture into politics. These astonishing but verifiable facts, which will be detailed in their proper place in this volume, would perhaps be of little direct importance to understanding Watergate, if crime in the United States had not developed into a powerfully organized force without the American public being aware of the changes. But since organized crime has made determined efforts to keep its true influence on events invisible, every fact, no matter how small, illuminates the hitherto hidden connections between organized crime, big business and politics. The President, of course, has been trying to confine the Watergate investigation to the bare facts of the original burglary at the offices of the Democratic National Committee. But despite all his desperate and overly-obvious attempts to limit the investigation, it is becoming very clear that the Watergate burglary was just the visible tip of an immense, submerged iceberg of government corruption. Since much is already known about the involvement of large corporations and intelligence agencies, it would be an obvious over-simplification to state that all of the Watergate scandals were "caused" by President Nixon's hidden relations to organized crime. Yet without understanding this connection, which involves tracing as best we can the even more hidden relation of organized crime to big business, we really can't understand why our government became so undemocratic, so willing to resort to violence and deceitful behavior towards its own citizens. "Crime" is much different now from what it has been in our country's history. The post-World War II multi-national corporations, and political parties intelligence apparatuses involved in Watergate are also substantially new forces which function quite differently from the corporations, parties and spies of the past. Only by understanding these differences, only by having the maximum knowledge possible of what went wrong, can the citizens of these United States transform the federal government from the loathsome spectacle it has become, to a true vehicle for the inalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. In the first two volumes of this series, The Breaking of a President, 1974, our aim has been to give the American public a day-by-day chronology of all the emerging facts about Watergate. Without such a score-card there are just too many names, too many episodes, and too many inter-relations to keep clearly in mind. But now that the story has been carried forward from the original burglary to the impeachment procedure in Congress, it is possible to begin exploring why Watergate took place, not simply what happened. CRIME TODAY Most of us think of crime either as the sensational exploits of safely dead, famous personalities like John Dillinger, Al Capone and Lucky Luciano, or in terms of our own tragic personal experiences with those individuals or small gangs who perpetrate the growing number of street crimes: the burglaries, robberies, auto thefts and larcenies (any theft not involving force, violence or unlawful entry). Many people are affected by these street crimes. The FBI, for example, estimates that in 1965 there were 1,173,201 burglaries, 762,352 larcenies of over $50, 486,568 auto thefts, and 118,916 robberies involving force or the threat of force. According to the President's Committee on Law Enforcement and Administration of Justice, the total cost to the public of all these street crimes in 1965 was 614 million dollars, a truly astronomical sum. However, the President's Commission goes on to say that illegal gambling, which we shall see is mostly controlled by organized crime, involves seven to fifty billion dollars annually, and at least one third of this almost inconceivable number of dollars goes into the pockets of
Re: [CTRL] Can Media Make a Killer?
-Caveat Lector- >Can Media Make a Killer? >by Declan McCullagh > >3:00 a.m. 13.Apr.99.PDT > >Everyone in the fly-spit town of Paducah, Kentucky, knows of Michael >Carneal, a computer geek convicted of gunning down eight of his >high-school classmates. Everyone knows the gory details of the crime: >How the 14-year-old opened fire on a prayer circle in the lobby of Heath >High School on 1 December 1997. > >What's still unclear is the nature of the demons that drove Carneal to >bring six guns to school that day. The uncertainty isn't due to lack of >details. Those became plentiful during the trial. > >Might the hours Carneal spent playing Doom have blurred the line between >fantasy and reality? How about a Leonardo DiCaprio movie with a similar >scene? Or persiankitty.com and other erotic Web sites that police say >Carneal frequented? well, i've played doom, i've played wolfenstein 3D, i've played quake, quake II, blood, blood 2, redneck rampage and most of the rest. call me a wierdo but i haven't felt the consumption to run out onto the street and gun down a prayer group, in fact the only noticeable side effect of playing quake for hours on end was that i stopped having a social life for a while. man, there must be something wrong with me >The parents of the three students who died have a ready, and angry, >answer: All of the above. well, that's simplistic. simplistic solutions to desperately complex problems are what cause death and war, simletons are responsible for the first world war, the current Kosovo crisis has been caused by excessiveness stupidity on both sides, NATO in particular. simpletons were responsible for the long suffering of russia under authritarian communism, simpletons were responsible for vietnam, and simpletons were responsible for the rise of the likes of Hitler. >On Monday, the families filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court >against a broad swath of computer companies and media firms, claiming >that the executives traded conscience for cash. > >The suit, which seeks more than US$100 million in damages, says that the >25 companies engaged in a pattern of corrupt business practices that >glorify violence and promote "disregard of authority." According to the >plaintiffs, the firms "should have known that copycat violence would be >caused by their products." it'd be nice if they did teach disregard of authority, but let's be realistic here. >Of particular concern to the families is The Basketball Diaries, a >Time-Warner movie in which the main character, played by DiCaprio, slays >his teacher and some classmates. They say the flick "is a nihilistic >glamorization of irresponsible sex, senseless and gratuitous violence, >hatred of religion" and other mendacities. They blame Time-Warner and >its partners. Carneal has told police that he remembered watching that >movie. and i remember listening to Cradle of Filth once, big deal >Videogames are another concern. Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, Redneck >Rampage, and other programs allegedly "trained Carneal how to point and >shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective >killer." And porn sites "provoked violence in Carneal" by showing him >illicit material not suitable for teens. Just to be safe, the plaintiffs >have also charged the operators of persiankitty.com, adultkey.com, and >porntech.com with racketeering. you can't learn to shoot from a computer game, i know people who can beat quake II without blinking, yet they can't shoot an air rifle for shit. >The companies being sued did not immediately respond to requests for >comment, saying that they need more time to review the allegations. "We >haven't really had a chance to look through the material well enough," >said a spokesman for Activision, which sells Wolfenstein and Mech >Warrior. > >Experts say that the suit will be thrown out of court. "This is a very >tough case to fight," said Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the >University of California at Los Angeles. "It has virtually no chance." glad to hear it. >Similar lawsuits in the past have had little success. In 1981, Hustler > published an article -- part of a series about taboo sexual practices >-- called "Orgasm of Death." It described in graphic detail the practice >of autoerotic asphyxia, in which a person masturbates while hanging >himself to cut off the blood supply to the brain. A 14-year-old boy >found a copy, tested the theory, and was found hanging by his neck in >his closet the next morning. An appeals court said Hustler couldn't be >held responsible for the youth's death. well, i wouldn't like to be responsible for someone else's stupidity. i've never heard of gun companies being sued when people get shot, quite right too. society lacks a sense of personal responsibility, they expect someone else to be responsible for everything. i heard about a mentally unstable man who killed someone and then sued his therapist, that's the height of insanity, dependency taken to it's ultimate conc
[CTRL] Fwd: Corporate Predators: New Book Announcement
*** NEW BOOK ANNOUNCEMENT *** CORPORATE PREDATORS: THE HUNT FOR MEGAPROFITS AND THE ATTACK ON DEMOCRACY by Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman Wealth disparity, megamergers and the resulting consolidation of corporate power, commercialism run amok, rampant corporate crime, death without justice, pollution, cancer and an unrelenting attack on democracy. In a compilation of compelling snapshots from two of the leading reporters on corporate power, Corporate Predators documents the price we pay for living in a corporate-dominated society. Available at local bookstores or from http://www.corporatepredators.org or from Common Courage Press, 1-800-497-3207 "The incisive and sharply focused snapshots presented here give a telling portrait of some of the most dangerous forces undermining what is decent and hopeful in American and global society. A warning that should be taken very seriously." -- Noam Chomsky "Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman are veteran trackers of the corporate beasts that pillage the globe. In Corporate Predators, they are on the tail of GM, Exxon, Philip Morris and other snakes, showing how they prey on workers, the environment and consumers." -- Jim Hightower "Mokhiber and Weissman chronicle the immense power corporations have acquired for themselves and the effect they have on our health, economy, communities, environment and democracy. This book should serve as a call to action for us to reclaim our democracy from the corporate predators." -- Lois Gibbs "Go forward readers who wish to be leaders in the advancement of justice -- what Daniel Webster once called 'the great work of men on Earth' -- and savor the writings that will motivate more and more women and men to band together in organizations that build a more just democracy." -- from the introduction by Ralph Nader To order, visit your local bookstore, or click on http://www.corporatepredators.org or call toll-free at 1-800-497-3207
Re: [CTRL] Draft dodging, War monger Liberals
-Caveat Lector- can you please stop defining a political belief by it's poltician's? i really hate it when people do this. because Clinton (who i have absolutely no respect for, incidentally) calls himself a liberal does not necessarily mean he is one, it is merely another lie. i would've thought you'd have figured out that the idea of him being a libertarian was just another one of his endless stream of lies. btw, about the british labour party, i'd hardly call the leadership and all the faithful little Blairites the 'leading lights', Tony Benn has come out very strongly against the war. When people condemn one pointless war, and encourage a different, even more pointless war which has all the makings of a large regional conflict or even a world war, this means that they are merely liars. liars should not be defined as 'libertarian' or 'conservative' or 'socialist', they should be defined as only one thing, 'liar'. although the label of politician would do equally well > Where have all the Western liberals gone? Nearly two weeks into > NATO's war against Serbia, there is barely a whimper of protest in > either Europe or North America. But then you can't expect Western > peaceniks to protest against a war they themselves are waging. > > Nearly eight years ago, the U.S. Democrats came very close to > denying the President, Mr. George Bush, the authority to wage a war > against Iraq's Mr. Saddam Hussein. But now it is a Democrat in the > White House who is pursuing an open-ended war in the Balkans. In > Britain, many leading lights of the Labour Party and the Left had > strongly protested against the Gulf War. Now a Labour Prime > Minister, Mr. Tony Blair, is among the NATO hawks on Kosovo. > > The reversal of attitudes towards war and peace among liberals is > most visible in Germany, where the ruling alliance of Social > Democrats and pacifist Greens has ordered the German bombers into > combat for the first time since the end of Second World War. > > Until recently, German public opinion refused to endorse the > participation of German armed forces even in international peace- > keeping missions, given the sensitivities arising from the Nazi > past. But now there is strong support in Germany for the war > against Serbia. > > In France, where the intelligentsia traditionally revelled in > opposing American "Cowboy imperialism", is backing the war against > Serbia. The French Government, which had been promoting the idea > of a "multipolar world" is now firmly with the United States in the > Balkan war. > > The conservative French President, Mr. Jacques Chirac, and > Socialist Prime Minister, Mr. Lionel Jospin, have set aside > political differences and the traditional suspicion of the NATO > to line up behind the bombing of Belgrade. > > Although there is some unease in Europe -- particularly among the > former Communists and in Greece -- at the unfolding war in the > Balkans, the measure of political unity that has emerged in the > Continent against Serbia is unprecedented. A war started by the > Western liberals in the Balkans has now gained strong support from > the conservatives -- of course, for entirely different reasons. > > The liberals have always recoiled at the idea of going to war in > pursuit of such crass objectives as balance of power, geopolitics, > or securing valuable natural resources such as oil. The European > liberals were particularly irked by what they saw as attempts by > the U.S. to drag their nations, through the NATO, into such wars. > > They see the war in the Balkans, however, as being driven not by > narrow national interests but by the moral imperative of preventing > "genocide", "ethnic cleansing" and the return of "barbarism" to > Europe. Although many in the world may not share this view, > there is no denying the strength of this belief in Europe, and > the absence of any sympathy for the Serb point of view. > > When the Balkan crisis began to unfold at the turn of the 1990s, > the then U.S. President, Mr. Bush, was extremely reluctant to get > involved. Despite the fact that he had successfully waged the Gulf > War in the name of a "New world Order", Mr. Bush was determined not > to repeat the adventure in the Balkans. > > Mr. Bush and other American conservative internationalists seemed > to say "we don't have dog in that fight". With no conceivable > geopolitical interest in the Balkans, the Bush Administration was > quite happy to leave it to the European powers to manage the > crisis. It was the American liberals who challenged the Republican > policy of benign neglect and kept up the demand for a U.S. military > intervention. > > In his election campaign against Mr. Bush, Mr. Clinton attacked > the American inaction in the Balkans. But when he took over as > President, Mr. Clinton was equally wary of being drawn into the > Balkan quagmire. But as the European efforts failed and the > political pressure from the liberals mounted, Mr. Clinton g
Re: [CTRL] Fw: FL800 Journalist Convicted!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/14/1999 1:05:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << << James Sanders and his wife were just convicted for James having accepted patches of seat cushion taken from the wreckage so that independent tests could be conducted so as to give the world a second opinion. >> This is a real tragedy. Teo1000 >> You're right Teo, it is. Apparently no American citizen can make an independent investigation of any matter our Government decides is private. Life in the United States is getting more and more like life in Russia under Uncle Joe. Just consider this decision as another nail in Freedom's coffin. Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] BNN: Microbe Rights Activists Stage Protests Against Antibiotics
-Caveat Lector- http://www.bogusnews.com/voafa/bnn/413c.htm Microbe Rights Activists Stage Protests Against Antibiotics - The "People for the Ethical Treatment of Micro Organisms" (PETMO) today launched a series of protests designed to raise awareness to the plight of bacteria. PETMO spokesperson, Needa Viva, told BNN, "Just because bacteria are not visible to the naked eye doesn't mean that they don't have rights. Americans are guilty of practicing bacterial genocide through the use of antibiotics. This heartless campaign of death has pushed certain bacterial strains to the brink of extinction." PETMO's protests have utilized "Urban Theater" as a means of getting their message out to the American people. One such protest occurred this morning on a subway in San Francisco. PETMO members disguised as commuters boarded the subway at the Walnut Creek station. As soon as the doors closed, 15 PETMO protesters quickly put brown paper bags over their heads. Painted on each of the bags was the word 'Bacterium'. Another protester then removed his jacket to reveal that he was wearing a bright blue t-shirt with the word 'antibiotic' painted on it in fluorescent red letters. As puzzled commuters looked on, the 'Antibiotic' proceeded to chase the 'Bacteria' around the subway car. Each time the 'Antibiotic' would touch a 'Bacterium' his victim would shriek, begin convulsing and then die. A few short seconds after the last bacterium met his fate, the PETMO members removed the bags from their heads and shouted in unison, "Stop the Genocide!" Elma Thompson, who happened to witness the protest, told BNN, "It was one of the most thought provoking protests that I have ever seen. I will certainly think twice before I take an antibiotic again." PETMO plans to stage similar protests in other metro areas around the country. Said Viva, "This is only the first battle in a long war. We are prepared to do whatever it takes to stop the violence against innocent bacteria." = Robert F. Tatman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Remove "nospam" from the address to reply. NOTICE: In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, this material is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml POSTING THIS MESSAGE TO THE INTERNET DOES NOT IMPLY PERMISSION TO SEND UNSOLICITED COMMERCIAL E-MAIL (SPAM) TO THIS OR ANY OTHER INTERNET ADDRESS. RECEIPT OF SPAM WILL RESULT IN IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE SENDER'S ISP. Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serb militia atrocity: Mass rape in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- [EMAIL PROTECTED],Internet writes: ><< A fairly solid > case could be made that war itself is an atrocity. It's not the absolute > worst thing you can have happen in your neighborhood >> > > >What is? Volcano. After a war, you can rebuild. After a volcano you have to settle down somewhere else (assuming you lived through it). Then there's plague . . . DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Fw: FL800 Journalist Convicted!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/13/99 10:26:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << James Sanders and his wife were just convicted for James having accepted patches of seat cushion taken from the wreckage so that independent tests could be conducted so as to give the world a second opinion. >> This is a real tragedy. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serb militia atrocity: Mass rape in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 4/13/99 8:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << > It is only a matter of time before the Internet starts to beat the drum of Serbian atrocities. Personally, I believe only what I see with my own eyes, and not all of that. However, as a history buff, I find it extremely difficult to imagine a war in which atrocities were not committed by both sides. A fairly solid case could be made that war itself is an atrocity. It's not the absolute worst thing you can have happen in your neighborhood, but it does make the short list with a couple slots to spare. Let's not have one here, OK? >> I agree about war being an atrocity. The only reason I mentioned the Serbian atrocity comment was to illustrate how the Internet will be exploited by the Powers That Be (or it will be attempted if not successful) to foster their own agenda and paint the Serb's as the aggressor and a real devil to boot. Both sides of course do such things, the end of W.W.II is a good case in point; the Germans were treated horrendously after their defeat (at least some were), and Vietnam as well where we used gross tactics to defeat an invisible enemy. Teo1000 DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skeptic News Final
-Caveat Lector- I shall greatly miss Skeptic News. Perhaps they only want us to think he has bee kidnapped to trick us into attempting a rescue for the purpose of creating an incident for invoking reptillian law. The humor was much appreciated during this stressful time. Amelia DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Skolnick: Kosovo Summary (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- Why did the put John Gotti in prison for the rest of his life based on the testimony of a man who had murdered 19 people, turned witness for the prosecution and was given immunity, and then put into a witness protection program. Now I have read of Gotti and now this - the people loved himhis 14 year old son was killed in what was supposed to be an accident, but Gotti was never tried or convicted of the disapperance of the man who hit him in his car. One of the oldest tricks of an enemy, is to move into a neighborhood, and go after your kids."got family, got kids"...and I have been asked that question myself. Why Gottiwho took his place, and does this man answer to Bill Clinton unawares. Did Gotti know too much about our President and his activitieswhy did the Justice Department go after him - why him in particular? The Teflon Don as compred to the Teflon Kid in the Whitehouse, why. John Gotti was denied his constitutional rights - the right to have a fair trial...he was tried three times, and on the fourth trip he was not permitted to have his attorney, who was one of the best, represent him Janet Reno, the Butcher of Waco, is primarily responsible for Gotti beng placed behind barswhere is is kept in solitary confinementwhy? Gotti knows where all the bodies are buriedand Cinton has a few bodies buried in Yugoslavia, that nobody knows about - but this is his story.people are setting themselves on fire, yet the bombs are blowing up cities and people daily. Why is John Gotti behind bars, and why is Clinton not behind Bars; why is Janet Reno not behind Bars; and why is this obnoxious woman, Madeline Albright not behind bars.but consider again, the man who put Gotti behind bars murdered 19 people, got immunity, a new name (just like in the RevelationsI will give you a new name) and is free while John Gotti is in prison. Gotti had a sonhis son was probably murderedbut John Gotti did not act as the avenger in blood. What I am saying is this, what is John Gotti doing in there, and what are they doing out there? Between Clinton and Gotti, give me Gotti; at least, he is a real man, and not a coward hiding behind the skirts of two ugly, obnoxious, excuses for women, but who are symbolic of this draft dodging coward. Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Under the Gun
-Caveat Lector- Y'all might want to check out this site... http://members.tripod.com/CodeMage/frames.htm This is the site about NATO bombing in Yugoslavia, as seen from Belgrade by me, my family and my friends. This site is here to tell as much truth as I know. This site is here to show the public what's going on and how it feels. This site is here because I am affraid. You are now with me, under the gun. DAY 20 Monday, April 12th, 1999 Get inside, get in there Evil in your eyes, baby, I don't care Get inside, get in there See the flesh falling everywhere "Electric head pt. 1 (The Agony)" White Zombie This morning I visited CNN to check out the news again and I found out an article about "mass graves" in Kosovo. Along with the article went the images of the area in question, images NATO provided using their spy satellites. Yellow markings indicate the area that "could be a mass grave". I guess it could. I also guess it could be trenches made for the army. The resolution is not good enough to determine what is the real purpose of the excavations. Of course, if Serbs dig the ground it's for the mass graves, right? Especially if NATO's spy satellites say so, the same satellites that NATO used to target a dummy radar in Belgrade suburb. They spent 30 Tomahawk missiles on that radar model before they finally realized it's not the real thing. Somehow, I'm inclined to doubt the conclusions drawn from the information provided by those satelites. In other words, it would be fishy if it wasn't already ridiculous. Another fine example of "Allied Force" targeting skills caused a real massacre today, when the cruising missiles hit the passenger train passing the bridge in Grdelica gorge. The locomotive and first wagon were out of harms way when the missiles arrived, but they hit third and fourth vagon in the bull's eye. There results were disastrous and the aftermath is still in progress. So far the teams managed to drag only 16 survivors out of the wreckage, 16 severely injured people. They also managed to pull out 7 scorched bodies, one of them being a 10 year old girl. Nobody knows yet how many people exactly died there. I've seen one of the survivors on TV. They showed only the woman's face as she spoke about the explosion and how the roof of the train fell on her, which probably saved her life, and how she jumped from a 2 meter height, out of the wreckage, through the hell of burning steel and broken glass. I will never forget that face. I could look at it, but I couldn't tell how old she was. I don't doubt that NATO knew that the train was heading for the bridge. After all, they have all that sensory and targeting equipment, which they use very well to claim the presence of mass graves in Kosovo and to strike the car factory in Kragujevac. Somebody in the Allied Force must be very proud of this. All sorts of rumors can be heard these days, but the latest is the update about Albanian forces attacking our border. It is said that Osman Bin Laden is in Albania, along with 500 of his Mujahedins. For those of you who haven't heard of Osman Bin Laden yet, he's the supreme leader of all Muslim terrorists in the world. And for those who don't know what Mujahedins are, they used to be Muslim holy wariors, equivalent of Christian crusaders: fanatic warriors who believed that dying in Alah's name during a Jihad automatically brings them a place in heaven. Today they are elite Muslim mercenaries and terrorists. Now that we're acquainted with terms, let's review the situation again: the supreme terrorist leader with 500 elite warriors, preparing to attack the border. Being mercenaries, they have to be financed by someone. NATO claims that there will be no ground troops in Kosovo. Put two and two together and draw your own conclusion. Of course, these are only the rumors, but still very intriguing. Last update on the massacre in Grdelica gorge: the train wasn't hit from cruising missiles fired from ships. One of the survivors, from the first wagon, said that after the first missiles hit other wagons he jumped out the broken window, heard the sound of the airplane, saw the smaller, grey missiles heading for the train and then another round of blasts started. There's a good reason to be proud of NATO pilots, the ones that pilot the planes I'm listening to right now. Good night, world, wherever you are. DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to r
[CTRL] No Subject
-Caveat Lector- SCAN CTRL @aol.com DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Fwd: Re: [MC] Custody Conspiracy, Insight Mag Story-David's comments
In a message dated 4/13/99 12:43:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: <> _ Despite the fact that I admittedly have a healthy suspicion and mistrust of Psychiatry (or Psychiatry) as a legitimate, objective body of "scientific" (or scientifically-derived) knowledge, still, there is considerably truth to the assertion that such a dynamic as Alienation exists, as I have seen evidenced in two marriages of my own. Inasmuch as my own field of (professed) expertise is scientific in large part, I submit that my comments may be as helpful as anyone else's in this regard: Two caviats in regard to the above: First, we should be very cautious about stating the gender-hierarchy of this or any other dynamic. By this I mean that, regardless of whether statistically this particular dynamic is more commonly seen in woman, they usually being the parents possessing custody, and thereby potentially exerting this pernicious power in relation to the disenfranchised men, (fathers) and, in so doing, causing great mischief to the child and to the relationship between child and non-custodialy parent, still, we have to be very cautious that we do not use the statistical incidence to indict one sex preferentially over the other. There is a temptation (or a tendancy) on the part of all of us--because we are human and therefore faillable--to do this. What may start out as an authentic desire to help one group as compared to another, very often becomes a passion to value one group over the other. I submit "Affirmative Action" as one grotesque example, or "Feminism" as another. These movements, even if we were inclined gratuitously to grant initial sincerity to them, desolved into a grotesque parody of themselves, eventually polarizing the sexes, or the races, and therefore harming all parties as a consequence. I am sure each of you can offer his or her pet peeve as examples. Second, be very wary of anything labeled as a "syndrome." The term does have scientific validity, but the term must be applied according to strict criteria, and not used as an arrogant means of demanding blind obesiesence as an Article of Faith. When we apply terms out of the context in which they were originally derived, and use them in a wider context, we must be able to demonstrate that the wider context (or application) has at least as much validity as did the context in which the "syndrome" or original term was first engendered. Such terms as "Social Darwinism" "Inferiority Complex" and so forth presume a deterministic--or non-volitional--aspect to their dynamic. In medical school, one of my professors used the following to demonstrate the difference: A mother goes to two doctors in search of the answer to a problem she has with her child: Why does he not drink milk? The first doctor offers a number of plausable explanations, each with a corresponding implication with regards to what to do about the situation (assuming for the moment that something should be done.) The second doctor says that the explanation is the the child is suffering from "Pediatric Non-milk-drinking Syndrome." (I leave it to you to decide which is more useful.) A "syndrome" is a combination of two or more attributes in the same individual where said combination is far greater than would be expected from chance and chance alone. Putting it another way, where any number of attributes, each thought by definition to be sufficient unto themselves, appear to aggregate in an individual, we suspect that "something" is at work as the cause. It only remains to find out what exactly that "something" is. If used inappropriately it can lead to all sorts of erroneous notions, Group Prejudice and Racism being good examples. Some terms logically imply such groupings, and must be updated as information is made available and is incorporated, thus modifying the original term. "Intelligence" is a classic example of such a progression. Where it was once thought that there was a simple thing called "Intelligence" or "IQ," thought originally to do with the ability to solve problems or to draw anologies, is now seen to be a complex of numerous dispositions, spacial, linguistic, logical, interpersonal and intrapersonal, being among the subsets now recognized. The reason that this issue is so poignant as it relates to human behavior is that we differ (at least in degree) from other entities in that we are creatures of self-conscientiousness; and in virtue of that fact, can be seen to exert some influence over the kind of choices we make, and thus, over the kind of people we are seen to become. "Knowledge is power," we are told. And the poet reminds us, "Man is Master of his fate, Captain of his soul." Chaucer in his allegory tells us "The Truth will set thee free, have no fear!" But how free? "That--is the Question," if I may borrow shamelessly from The Bard. The DSM-IV has been understand
[CTRL] The Greatest Conspiracy
-Caveat Lector- from alt.conspiracy - As always, Caveat Lector. Om K - The Greatest Conspiracy - Subject: The Greatest Conspiracy From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, Apr 13, 1999 7:55 AM Message-id: <7evpec$5gm$[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The Greatest Conspiracy I can think of consists of the endless lies from the US government concerning Iraq and its use of Chemical weapons. Jude Wanniski's memo "Propoganda Wars #2" makes it clear that there must be another agenda. The address for the memo is http://www.polyconomics.com/searchbase/04-13-99.html The text follows: Propaganda Wars #2 Memo To: Tim Weiner, NY Times Washington Bureau From: Jude Wanniski Re: Reviewing Scott Ritter's book I should not have been pleasantly surprised to read your review of Scott Ritter's Endgame in the Sunday NYTimes "Book Review." That's because I've come to value your byline as a conscientious reporter on stories most other reporters handle with the frivolity common to the journalism of the age. Because Saddam Hussein has been so demonized thoroughly by the propaganda machine of our Political Establishment, it only was natural that the Establishment press corps that does its bidding without question, would celebrate Ritter, who quit his job as an UNSCOM inspector a year ago. Ritter, after all, quit supposedly when his conscience told him the U.S. was interfering with the Good Guys who were serious about finding Weapons of Mass Destruction hidden in Saddam's secret places. I automatically assumed your book review would find his heroics invaluable and fascinating. Instead, you correctly diagnosed Ritter as a fraud. "Endgame' reads like a sputtering argument written in anger, laid out in fits and starts, and printed hastily before the author's 15 minutes expire." The 240 pages disclose Ritter's frustration in spending seven years looking under rocks and behind trees for weapons of mass destruction, and not finding any. Someone must be blamed! The propaganda surrounding our eight-year effort to starve 20 million Iraqis to death to cover up the botched job of our Political Establishment in that sorry land has been among the most effective of the century. More than a year ago, after several years of living with what I knew to be stacks of baloney in the news media, I arranged to meet with Nizar Hamdoon, Iraq's UN Ambassador. I told him I had come to believe our government was lying through its teeth, Democrats and Republicans, because there was nobody around with the guts to tell it to stop. The Republicans want everyone to believe they are TOUGHER than the Democrats, and the Democrats don't want anyone to believe they are weenies. So the starving goes on. Anyway, Tim, I offered to be devil's advocate to Saddam, to fill the leadership vacuum on the planet. But I had to have Hamdoon's assurance that whatever he told me could be verified as truthful. Otherwise, I would look like a dope, instead of merely a TRAITOR to those in our government who are bent on killing all Iraqis through malnutrition and disease. He said that was jake with him. He would be straight with me. So I asked him first when was the last time UNSCOM destroyed any weapons of mass destruction. He said "November 1991." That was hard to believe, Tim, and I was quite shocked. So I asked him again and he again insisted that in the previous six and a half years, no WMD had been destroyed. Not one lousy, crummy nuclear, chemical, or biological weapon, not a little bitty one. I looked him in the eye and made him tell me a third time that he was not fooling around, and he held my gaze and said, "No fooling." Then I asked him how many WMD had been found and destroyed by UNSCOM inspectors WITHOUT the help of the Iraqi government in the seven months between the end of the Gulf War in early 1991 and November 1991. He looked me in the eye and said "None." Every WMD that had been destroyed in that period was as the result of UNSCOM being taken to a WMD site and shown the stuff, either stuff that already had been destroyed, or stuff awaiting destruction. This was especially hard for me to believe, and I suspected Hamdoon was playing verbal tricks on me, like not knowing what "is" is. So I asked him in several different ways to make sure he was not playing me for a sap, the way certain political leaders played certain federal grand juries for a sap. Hamdoon hung in there. Back in Washington, I ran into Senate Majority Leader Trent Lott, and told him the story about Hamdoon's answers to my questions. He said, "No way, Jude boy, you have got to be wrong. The UNSCOM inspectors are finding WMD every day of the week, except Sundays, which they observe as a Day of Rest." (Now I may not have gotten the quote exactly right, because I didn't have a notebook with me, but as this has become a common practice among today's journalists, I made up the quote to reflect the disbelief I saw in Trent's eyes.) Next I told Jack Kemp at Empower America, who normally believes everyth
[CTRL] HEALING THE WARRIOR
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.metalab.unc.edu/warrior/ http://www.metalab.unc.edu/warrior/">Healing the Warrior, Cover - HEALING THE WARRIOR The Spiritual Journey of a Forgotten Child Soldier Writing about my childhood experience of military exploitation by the United States Department of Defense is part of a healing process. Enter at your own discretion. down to more words On the surface my story may seem hard to believe, but in time -- probably after my death -- the sifted sands will show that my claims have merit. I imagine there will be further attempts to intimidate me, to mis-characterize my emotional struggle and to discredit my integrity. I hope people will look beyond all that and seek the truth. The United States government has already admitted various instances of military abuses, medical abuses and experimentation on human beings during the cold war, and my story is rooted in such realities. I feel it is important to make clear up front that I respect the adults who have chosen to serve and who serve with honour in the Armed Forces. I am at odds with the attitudes inside the United States Department of Defense which brought rise to the military exploitation of my childhood. In a free society military service needs to be an informed choice, and the secrets kept by the government should not destroy a sense of individual identity or cultural heritage. The internal rage and chaos of a person lost from self are soon enough visited upon the society that nurtured them. Personally I am grateful to believe that nonviolence is the strongest force for constructive change in a free society, and I am thankful that I was able to find words to express my experience. = from: http://www.metalab.unc.edu/warrior/passage1.htm http://www.metalab.unc.edu/warrior/passage1.htm">Healing the Warrior, Passages One - Kenn Prevans HTW ©1999 HEALING THE WARRIOR The Journey of a Forgotten Child Soldier "Striving for peace and preparing for war are incompatible with each other, and in our time more so than ever." Albert Einstein There are mysteries in this world, things that words cannot fully describe and that logic cannot explain. And we live in a dubious time: a time when science is looked to for definitive answers and creative thinking and imagination are minimized, ridiculed, even blamed for our societal ills. But human progress always comes by way of the imagination. It comes by braving the unknown and the unconnected and then returning to solid ground with a new piece of the puzzle. Bit by bit the veil enshrouding the mystery is pushed back and what once seemed unexplainable can be put into a logical framework. I was lost in utter chaos for most of my life, overwhelmed by seemingly baseless emotions and flooded by intrusive images. There was a pervasive hollowness inside me that I believed (as my parents had always told me) was "the way that life is." My thoughts raced hyperactively as if time was short and I had to make sense of something. I saw the end of the world coming. The Book of Revelations was unfolding before my eyes and I pictured myself leading a band of post-apocalyptic survivors through the mountains to some paradise of a place where a great new society would be built. And then one day -- not long before the supposed end of the world -- something changed and a different kind of journey began. Eventually I emerged from the chaos and my life and my childhood started making sense. . . . I found my solid ground. The story of my childhood starts out sounding somewhat 'out there.' I am a survivor of organized military exploitation that was conducted by people within the United States Department of Defense. My experiences as a child included military training scenarios and what I can only describe as mind control experiments consistent with some descriptions of the CIA's MK-Ultra program. It was part of a Department of Defense violation of the United Nations 1947 Nuremberg code. As a child I could not have consented to the end-of-the-world training contingencies that took place -- in part -- on Fort Bragg Military Reservation. Beyond that, the psychological trauma experiments and Electro-convulsive shock treatments designed to split my psyche and dissociate my memories of what happened were outside the bounds of any justification. I know the disbelief and the skepticism, and I think it's a healthy and appropriate first reaction to my claims. I lived in denial, disbelief and skepticism of the messages from my subconscious for twelve years. In that time I told myself many things about my inborn nature and my childhood nurturing. Eventually, as I learned more about surviving trauma and started to listen to the messages from my subconscious mind and my s
Re: [CTRL] [MC] Beatles, Rock & Roll and Mind Control:
-Caveat Lector- What about: Mammy, Mammy - the moonshines east, the moonshines west - but we know where the moonshines best or Me and My Shadow.walking down the avenue...(that was Elliot Ness and his boys following Al Capone?_ or I Don' Want to play at your house; I don't like you anymore. now that was our falling out with Russia, I think or Yes, We Got No Bananas.now tht was when the USA gave a lot of wheat to Russia, but said no bread at home - shortage. orBehind Closed Doors..played to the tune of the Watergate flood. or Rocky Racoon.well this guy read the Gideon Bible, and was "hit". or See the pyramids along the way.well, we were at war.good spy stuff or Skylark..telling the enemy when the troops flew out of the USA and England or White Cliffs of Dover.many a bluebird left, but for sure, Glenn Miller wasn't one of them. or In the Cool, Cool Cool of the Eveningwell, the only person I knew who took a walk then, was God in the Garden of Eden or Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree With anyone Else But me..well, so much for the Illuminati.. or Flat Floot Floosie - well that ws before Monica's time and well, nuff said What aboutthe Coward of the County, I just changed that to the Coward of the Country, and I dedicate to Clinton daily. As for Madam Albright - what about Round Her Neck Lets Put a Yellow Ribbon, or should we reserve that for Clinton.add on the rings on her fingers, nd bells on her toes, and and a broachon her bosom, from whom stolen, noobody knows. Well, we got Hilary and Chelsia.I donot think they have written any songs about the Hounds from Hell, but they did in this case, put the pigs in the Whitehourse Parlours (no insult meantto the pigs - but I have a song for the Secret Service.whichshould be sung with loving careSomeone To Watch Over Me). Well so much for Say It With a Song; I am so glad people know that there has always been music in the air, some are listening, and others listen and do not know it, and as a result spend too much money at the super market, and often break a leg getting out of the place at closing time. Well, never did figure out what the Good Ship Lollipop was until they put Shirley Temple in the UN, which means - there's a sucker born every minute.. Colleen You know, little Shirley Temple - golly gee - on the Good Ship Lollipop at Last? Will nobody rid me of this medlesom creature after all these years(somewhat stolen from Shakespear) DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Can Media Make a Killer?
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/19088.html?wnpg=2 http://www.wired.com/news/news/politics/story/19088.html">Political News from Wired News - Can Media Make a Killer? by Declan McCullagh 3:00 a.m. 13.Apr.99.PDT Everyone in the fly-spit town of Paducah, Kentucky, knows of Michael Carneal, a computer geek convicted of gunning down eight of his high-school classmates. Everyone knows the gory details of the crime: How the 14-year-old opened fire on a prayer circle in the lobby of Heath High School on 1 December 1997. What's still unclear is the nature of the demons that drove Carneal to bring six guns to school that day. The uncertainty isn't due to lack of details. Those became plentiful during the trial. Might the hours Carneal spent playing Doom have blurred the line between fantasy and reality? How about a Leonardo DiCaprio movie with a similar scene? Or persiankitty.com and other erotic Web sites that police say Carneal frequented? The parents of the three students who died have a ready, and angry, answer: All of the above. On Monday, the families filed a lawsuit in Kentucky federal court against a broad swath of computer companies and media firms, claiming that the executives traded conscience for cash. The suit, which seeks more than US$100 million in damages, says that the 25 companies engaged in a pattern of corrupt business practices that glorify violence and promote "disregard of authority." According to the plaintiffs, the firms "should have known that copycat violence would be caused by their products." Of particular concern to the families is The Basketball Diaries, a Time-Warner movie in which the main character, played by DiCaprio, slays his teacher and some classmates. They say the flick "is a nihilistic glamorization of irresponsible sex, senseless and gratuitous violence, hatred of religion" and other mendacities. They blame Time-Warner and its partners. Carneal has told police that he remembered watching that movie. Videogames are another concern. Doom, Quake, Wolfenstein, Redneck Rampage, and other programs allegedly "trained Carneal how to point and shoot a gun in a fashion making him an extraordinarily effective killer." And porn sites "provoked violence in Carneal" by showing him illicit material not suitable for teens. Just to be safe, the plaintiffs have also charged the operators of persiankitty.com, adultkey.com, and porntech.com with racketeering. The companies being sued did not immediately respond to requests for comment, saying that they need more time to review the allegations. "We haven't really had a chance to look through the material well enough," said a spokesman for Activision, which sells Wolfenstein and Mech Warrior. Experts say that the suit will be thrown out of court. "This is a very tough case to fight," said Eugene Volokh, a law professor at the University of California at Los Angeles. "It has virtually no chance." Similar lawsuits in the past have had little success. In 1981, Hustler published an article -- part of a series about taboo sexual practices -- called "Orgasm of Death." It described in graphic detail the practice of autoerotic asphyxia, in which a person masturbates while hanging himself to cut off the blood supply to the brain. A 14-year-old boy found a copy, tested the theory, and was found hanging by his neck in his closet the next morning. An appeals court said Hustler couldn't be held responsible for the youth's death. Another appeals court said the same thing a few years later. The 6th US Circuit Court of Appeals ruled in 1990 that the manufacturer of the popular Dungeons & Dragons role-playing game was not responsible for a young customer's suicide. "The materials make it clear that Dungeons & Dragons is a 'let's-pretend' game, not an incitement to do anything more than exercise the imagination Tragedies such as this simply defy rational explanation, and courts should not pretend otherwise," the judges wrote. Free-speech advocates say that is the best outcome. "The case should be dismissed for lack of a proper legal claim," says Barry Steinhardt, associate director of the American Civil Liberties Union. "There is no substantial social-science evidence that shows that entertainment causes violence. The people who commit violence should be held accountable, not the entertainment industry," Steinhardt said. Carneal, a Heath High freshman at the time of the shootings, has been sentenced to life in prison without possibility of parole for at least 25 years. Copyright © 1994-99 Wired Digital Inc. All rights reserved. - Aloha, He'Ping, Om, Shalom, Salaam. Em Hotep, Peace Be, Omnia Bona Bonis, All My Relations. Adieu, Adios, Aloha. Amen. Roads End Kris DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-
[CTRL] American People Ruled Unfit To Govern
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html http://www.theonion.com/onion3514/unfit_to_govern.html">American People Ruled Unfit To Govern - ;-) Om K - WASHINGTON, DC--In a historic decision with major implications for the future of U.S. participatory democracy, the Supreme Court ruled 8-1 Monday that the American people are unfit to govern. The controversial decision, the first of its kind in the 210-year history of U.S. representative government, was, according to Justice David Souter, "a response to the clear, demonstrable incompetence and indifference of the current U.S. citizenry in matters concerning the operation of this nation's government." As a result of the ruling, the American people will no longer retain the power to choose their own federal, state and local officials or vote on matters of concern to the public. "This decision was by no means easy, but it unfortunately had to be done," said Justice Antonin Scalia, who penned the majority decision in the case. "The U.S. Constitution is very clear: In the event that the voting public becomes incapacitated or otherwise unfit to carry out its duties of self-governance, there is a danger posed to the republic, and the judicial branch is empowered to remove said public and replace it with a populace more qualified to lead." "In light of their unmitigated apathy toward issues of import to the nation's welfare and their inability to grasp even the most basic principles upon which participatory democracy is built, we found no choice but to rule the American people unfit to govern at this time," Scalia concluded. The controversial ruling, court members stressed, is not intended as a slight against the character of the American people, but merely a necessary measure for the public good. "The public's right to the best possible representation is a founding principle of our nation," Justice Sandra Day O'Connor told reporters. "If you were on a jet airliner, you wouldn't want an untrained, incompetent pilot at the controls, and this is the same thing. As federal justices, we have taken a solemn oath to uphold every citizen's constitutional rights, and if we were to permit an irresponsible, disinterested public to continue to helm the ship of state, we would be remiss in our duties and putting the entire nation at risk." The ruling brings to an end a grueling 10-month process, during which more than 100 Supreme Court hearings were held to determine the public's capacity for self-governance. Despite the fact that these hearings were aired on C-SPAN, a majority of U.S. citizens were unaware of them because coverage was largely eclipsed by the Clinton-Lewinsky scandal, the retirement of NBA legend Michael Jordan, and the release of Titanic on home video. The Supreme Court found that, though 78 percent of U.S. citizens have seen the much-anticipated Star Wars prequel trailer, only one in 200,000 were aware that the multibillion-dollar "Star Wars" missile-defense system had been approved by Congress. Additionally, while 62 percent of citizens correctly identified the cast of Suddenly Susan, only .01 percent were able to identify Attorney General Janet Reno beyond "some woman Jay Leno always says looks like a man." Further, only .0003 percent could correctly identify the ancient Greek city-state of Athens as the birthplace of the concept of an educated citizenry participating in democratic self-rule. Above: Just some of the millions of empty voting booths that can be seen across America each November. But the final straw, Supreme Court justices said, came last week when none of the 500,000 random citizens polled were aware that Russian President Boris Yeltsin had threatened global thermonuclear war in response to NATO air attacks in Yugoslavia. "I mean, come on," Justice William Rehnquist said. "Global thermonuclear war? It's just ridiculous. There was just no way we could trust such a populace to keep running things after that." Populations currently being considered to fill the leadership void until the American people can be rehabilitated and returned to self-governance include those of Switzerland, Sweden and Canada. "I'm willing to do what I can to help out in this time of crisis and make sure that my vote counts," said Stockholm resident Per Johanssen. "I've been reading up on America a bit, just to get a general idea of what needs to be done, and from what I can tell, they really need some sort of broad-based health-care reform over there right away." In a provisional test of the new system, the Canadian province of Saskatchewan will hold primaries next Tuesday to re-evaluate last fall's gubernatorial election in Minnesota. The lone dissenting vote came from Justice Anthony Kennedy, who, in his minority opinion wrote, "Although the American people are clearly unable to make respons
[CTRL] OEN 4/14/99
-Caveat Lector- from: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/ http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin Grabbe - Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia "Collateral Damage" Lights the Fires of Rage Clinton bombs the children BELGRADE - Early Tuesday morning, Dragana Krstic was recovering an operation to remove a tumor from her stomach when there was a deafening explosion outside Belgrade's largest military hospital. The blast shattered numerous windows, sending a shower of glass and metal over the 23-year-old shopkeeper, wounding her in the shoulder. Eight hours later, a shaken Miss Krstic was denouncing NATO leaders as ''fascists, imbeciles, and vandals,'' in interviews with Western journalists taken to the scene by the Yugoslav Army. Belgrade had added another civilian casualty story in the propaganda war with the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, and ordinary Serbs had been strengthened in their belief that they - not the government of President Slobodan Milosevic - are the real victims of the three-week-old bombing campaign against their country. Compared with other ''mistakes'' by NATO missiles and warplanes, including a missile attack Monday on a train in southern Serbia, the latest spate of civilian injuries was relatively minor. According to doctors at the military clinic in the Belgrade suburb of Banica, at least 16 hospital patients were wounded as a result of the bombing of a military transport depot roughly 100 yards away. Most of the wounds were caused by flying glass. The cumulative result of all this ''collateral damage,'' however, has been to fan popular anger here against the United States and other Western countries and make ordinary Serbs more determined than ever to hang on to Kosovo. In the words of a Belgrade taxi driver, ''since our country has already been destroyed, we have less to lose now and less reason to give in to NATO demands than we had three weeks ago.'' The military hospital director, General Aca Jovanovic, compared the latest bomb attacks to the ''ravages of Genghis Khan'' and speculated that his facility had been directly targeted by NATO. He said no military purpose was served in hitting the transport depot because it was empty at the time of the attack. The military hospital suffered minor damage 10 days earlier in a bomb attack on a nearby police academy, but no one was injured on that occasion. After a brief respite over the Orthodox Easter, NATO appears to be targeting the capital once more. On Monday night, some residents applauded as anti-aircraft units fired on NATO planes. People with young families tend to take refuge in the air-raid shelters. At one such shelter Monday night, on March 27 Street in the center of Belgrade, volunteers were distributing finger puppets to children who appeared to be growing ever more accustomed to the communal, underground life. For the most part, the children seemed satisfied with the simple explanations given to them by their parents for the need to seek shelter underground. ''We come here because we hear the sirens,'' said 4-year-old Milena, as she prepared to go to bed on one on of dozens of mattresses scattered across the concrete floor. Piped up Sasha, 5: ''It was frightening the first time we heard the sirens. But now I am not afraid any more. I go to the window and shout, 'Go away!''' ''I like it down here. There are lots of toys down here,'' said 4-year-old Dejan, clutching a Charlie Brown book in one hand and a pink finger puppet in the other. He went to bed wearing a T-shirt with the bull's-eye target sign that has become a symbol of Serb resistance to the bombing. Asked who was bombing them, the children replied in a chorus, ''America, Clinton.'' Dejan's mother, the ski instructor Katerina Radusinovic, said she had told her son there were some ''bad people'' in the world who wanted to drop bombs on Yugoslavia. A few days ago, Dejan asked her what a bomb was, and she showed him a newspaper photograph of an American Tomahawk missile. City officials estimate that between 20 percent and 30 percent of residents have been using the underground shelters. ''Discipline has been gradually breaking down,'' said Milan Bozic, deputy mayor of Belgrade, ''Because missiles can be fired at us from hundreds of miles away, we have very long air-raid alerts, at least 12 hours at a time. It's difficult to keep people underground for that length of time.'' International Herald Tribune, April 14, 1999 Der Fuhrer Invades Yugoslavia Escalation of Air War Shows Its Flaws I am Clinton. Hear me roar. PARIS - NATO's announcement of major reinforcements, confronting Serbia with a U.S.-led air armada of more than 1,000 warplanes, underscored signs Tuesday that the alliance's initial battle plan had failed to deliver the expected results and needed an urgent escalation in firepower to offer a realistic prospect of military victory in Kosovo. ''Our high technology weapons' performance would be devastating against a s
[CTRL] Free Trade Is Not Free
-Caveat Lector- Free Trade Is Not Free Address to the Chicago Council of Foreign Relations by Patrick J. Buchanan This is a prestigious forum and I appreciate the opportunity to address it. As my subject, I have chosen what I believe is the coming and irrepressible conflict between the claims of a new American nationalism and the commands of the Global Economy... TAC NEWSWIRE 04/14/99 - RALEIGH NEWS OBSERVER Two Sides to NAFTA on Display at Hearing - Sen. Jesse Helms turned thumbs down Tuesday on five years of the North American Free Trade Agreement, telling a top U.S. trade official that the pact has cost North Carolina and other states tens of thousands of manufacturing jobs. . . Richard Fisher, deputy U.S. trade representative, testified on the effects of NAFTA before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, which Helms chairs. Fisher was joined by Republican presidential candidate Patrick Buchanan and Vontella Dabbs, a textile mill worker from Maiden, N.C. Helms said his initial warnings about NAFTA, which eased tariffs and other trade barriers among the United States, Canada and Mexico, have been proved true since the accord took effect Jan. 1, 1994, after Congress approved it at the urging of President Clinton. . . "Now that the U.S. is five years into NAFTA, more than 200,000 jobs have been lost nationwide," Helms said. "In North Carolina, more than 20,000 jobs have been lost in the textile industry alone, and the picture is getting bleaker by the day with plants closing and moving to Mexico" . . . "Five years ago, we predicted that this agreement would mean growth, better and more jobs, rising standards of living and a higher quality of life," Fisher said. "Today, we can say that the agreement is keeping its promises" . . . Buchanan, the TV commentator who has made opposition to international trade agreements a centerpiece of his presidential campaigns, criticized Fisher for focusing only on U.S. exports to Mexico and Canada, without looking also at those countries' shipments to the United States. "It's a little bit like saying, 'The Washington Redskins scored three touchdowns Sunday,' without saying, 'The Dallas Cowboys scored six touchdowns,' " Buchanan said. . . The United States enjoyed a trade surplus with Mexico before NAFTA was implemented, Buchanan said, but now has a trade deficit of $17 billion. . . He said the devaluation of the Mexican peso has prompted a flood of Mexican goods across the border. . . . "If we continue these open-border trade policies with nations that have hard-working people who will work for 10 percent of American wages, every large industrial and manufacturing plant in this country is ultimately at risk," Buchanan said. . . .Dabbs traveled to the hearing from Catawba County, where she works for Delta Mills Marketing Co. at a plant that makes cotton yarns and woven cloth for apparel manufacturers. "I come to you today not as an expert in any field, not as a politically motivated person, but simply as an American who is deeply concerned for both my future and the future of my family and friends," Dabbs said. Dabbs blamed NAFTA for the recent decision by Burlington Industries to close nine plants in the Carolinas. One of them, a large denim weaving factory in the Iredell County town of Mooresville, is being replaced by a similar facility in Mexico, she said. . . "These treaties, laws and trade agreements have not really opened up the world to the American textile industry as was intended," Dabbs said. "Instead, they have opened our borders for foreign manufacturers to flood our country with goods produced with near slave labor and in deplorable conditions for workers." Helms said the Burlington closings would cost North Carolina 2,400 jobs. . . 04/14/99 - THE WASHINGTON POST DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] Echelon, the NSA and Princess Diana
-Caveat Lector- Forwarded from the SpyKing list... Not exactly hot off the press, but still relevant. Sorry if it's a rerun. I don't get out much these days. - Lyn --- Dr. Steven Aftergood, the intelligence expert member of FAS (Federation of Amer. Scientists) who gave CNN that recent interview claiming that the US government's secrecy policies are causing mass insanity, is featured in the below Wash. Post article (he sure is getting around lately, huh?). He says he's AMAZED that the American people are not seemingly concerned about ECHELON, and says it must be that WE BELIEVE domestic law precludes NSA from using ECHELON domestically. Well, READ THE BELOW WASH POST ARTICLE! The illegal opening and interception of U.S. citizen's mail and electronic correspondence IS prohibited domestically, HOWEVER, they get around these proscriptions by multi-lateral agreements with the intelligence agencies of other countries. It amounts to "we'll spy on your people and give you the take if you return the favor." So, Britain's GCHQ may intercept your phone call instead of NSA, and everything will be "legal," but your privacy is still violated nonetheless. NSA ADMITS TO SPYING ON PRINCESS DIANA By Vernon Loeb Washington Post Staff Writer Saturday, December 12, 1998; Page A13 The National Security Agency has disclosed that U.S. intelligence is holding 1,056 pages of classified information about the late Princess Diana, inspiring a flurry of sensational headlines this week across London's tabloids. "America's spy chiefs admitted last night they snooped on Princess Diana for years -- and learned some of her most intimate love secrets," The Mirror reported on Thursday. The Daily Record claimed that the NSA intercepts "have gone on right until she died in the Paris car crash with Dodi Fayed." The truth, while intriguing, is unlikely to be so lurid. The source of the Fleet Street speculation was a simple, two-page NSA denial of a Freedom of Information Act request. In the denial, released last month, the super-secret U.S. spy agency admitted possessing a Diana file. The document says nothing about the contents of those 1,056 secret pages, why they were gathered or how they were obtained. One U.S. intelligence official said yesterday that the references to Diana in intercepted conversations were "incidental." Diana, the official insisted, was never a "target" of the NSA's massive, worldwide electronic eavesdropping infrastructure. The NSA system sucks up millions of electronic signals from around the world every hour, but only "targeted" communications are actually analyzed and deciphered after a vast array of supercomputers sort them out on the basis of programmed search terms, such as "Saddam Hussein." The Diana controversy is not the only, or the most serious, dispute in Europe that has raised the profile of the reclusive NSA. The giant spy agency, Maryland's largest employer, has been the subject of intense controversy in Britain and across Europe since a report released in January by the European Parliament concluded that "within Europe, all e-mail, telephone and fax communications are routinely intercepted by the United States National Security Agency." The report focused on a system called Echelon through which the NSA and its spy partners in Britain, Canada, New Zealand and Australia share communications intercepted from around the world and systematically divide the huge task of analyzing the "take." "Each of the five [countries] supply 'dictionaries' to the other four of keywords, phrases, people and places to 'tag,' and the tagged intercept is forwarded straight to the requesting country," according to the report. "The end of the Cold War has not, apparently, brought an end to the [NSA's] Echelon eavesdropping system," a state-funded Russian daily, the Rossiyskaya Gazeta, complained last month. "This system has become a weapon of 'economic warfare.' " Il Mondo, an Italian weekly news magazine, called Echelon "this incredible communications vacuum cleaner." Steven Aftergood, an intelligence expert at the Federation of American Scientists, said he can't understand why the Echelon controversy has gone unnoticed in the United States. The lack of interest, he acknowledged, may stem from the fact that the NSA is prohibited by law from targeting American citizens for communications intercepts, here or abroad. "What is clear," Aftergood said, "is that the U.S. and our allies promiscuously collect electronic communications around the world. Whether the descriptions of Echelon are accurate or not, that much is definitely true." The Freedom of Information Act request seeking classified material on Diana was submitted earlier this year by an Internet news service based in New York, apbonline.com. In denying the request, the NSA disclosed existence of a 1,056-page Diana file and reported that Fort Meade, where the agency is located, had produced 39 "NSA-originated and NSA-controlled documents," totali
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Y2K & the National Guard
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/1999/y2k/natguard.htm Y2K & the National Guard >From a reader, Rob, I heard on fairly good authority this week that the National Guard callup in May for a dry run may not be a dry run, it could be the real thing. What I'm told is that there may be an incremental implementation of martial law beginning then or a "terrorist" attack such as anthrax, somewhere like LA, to justify a continued troop presence and perhaps immediate enforcement of martial law at that time. I'm also told that a truck turned over in Michigan carrying thousands of street signs for martial law. May be worth pursuing. If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Too much effort to find the stock info you want each day? StockMaster lets you enter a company name and quickly shows you a daily quote, chart, and news all on one page. Free! http://clickhere.egroups.com/click/71 eGroup home: http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist Free Web-based e-mail groups by eGroups.com
Re: [CTRL] Fw: FL800 Journalist Convicted!
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/13/1999 10:26:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << The government's case relied heavily on the testimony of Terrell Stacey, a former TWA pilot who admitted helping Sanders by stealing crash-related documents and scraps of the seat covering from the hangar where investigators had reassembled the plane's wreckage. Stacey, who had flown the plane the day before the crash and was assigned by TWA to assist in the investigation, testified against the Sanderses in exchange for being allowed to plead guilty to a misdemeanor theft charge. >> Well folks, is there anyone still out there who thinks we live in a country where the Government can't kill you for no good reason and refuse to own up to it? Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Serb militia atrocity: Mass rape in Kosovo
-Caveat Lector- In a message dated 04/13/1999 8:21:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << A fairly solid case could be made that war itself is an atrocity. It's not the absolute worst thing you can have happen in your neighborhood >> What is? Prudy DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] [MC] Beatles, Rock & Roll and Mind Control:
-Caveat Lector- On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Andrew Hennessey wrote: >>Following the Beatles, who incidentally were put together by the >>Tavistock Institute, came other "Made in England" rock groups, who, like >> the Beatles, had Theo Adorno write their cult lyrics and compose all >>the "music." I hate to use these beautiful words in the context of >>"Beatlemania"; it reminds me of how wrongly the word "lover" is used >>when referring to the filthy interaction between two homosexuals >>writhing in pigswill. To call "rock" music, is an insult, likewise the >>language used in "rock lyrics." > >I was just starting to think that the author had something - then I came >across this paragraph, >1. This guy 'Theo Adorno of the Tavistock Institute' had to have been one of >the most talented musicians in the world then >2. The rather undereducated lump-categorisation of all Rock Music is an insult >to our intelligence. Yes, and it ignores the FACT that the term 'rock' was being used to describe a music genre well before the 'era of rock'n'roll'...I remember listening to my mother's 78rpm of Benny Goodman's Orchestra with Peggy Lee singing about how she liked to "rock and roll", a recording which was made in the 1940s... Plenty of swing era music had some pretty raunchy lyrics, and quite often referred to drug use, usually cocaine and marijuana (albeit usually in veiled terms, sometimes overtly ala "I Get A Kick Out Of You") It is not hard to find music which was the 1920s equivalent of "The Top Ten" which referred to alcohol use, even tho Prohibition was in effect... I remember my parents and their peers, in reminiscing about one favorite band or another, commenting on any number of musicians who were known for their illicit drug use...obviously if the general public was so aware of it, it wasn't something that was particularly hidden... And I remembered that for all the media hype at the time about the 'sudden' and 'growing' 'drug problem' amongst America's youth...of which I WAS one at the time...especially all the hysteria over how popular music was 'encouraging' it, my parents and their friends seemed pretty accepting of the pot, cocaine, and heroin use amongst THEIR musical icons... Anyone remember Dean Martin's TV show? He probably was faking, to a point, but his whole "shtick" was one of presenting himself as a pleasantly inebriated host...indeed, Dean Martin's "drinking problem" was a classic joke... So much for role models... Movies and TV of the 40s, 50s, and early 60s always showed the mainstream, middleclass middleaged as constantly downing one alcoholic drink after another...by the late 50s and early 60s, any number of prescription sedatives were added to the mix of 'socially acceptable' drugs presented in the media as 'okay'... The Rolling Stones "Mother's Little Helper" zings in on that exact hypocrisy...that while 'adults' were bemoaning the growing drug use amongst their children, they themselves couldn't cope with even everyday stresses without downing Martinis or Scotch-on-the-Rocks, not uncommonly washing down Valiums with them... >The impact on our leisure time of exposure to technology and cultural >diversity was going to produce many new ideologies, many new art forms, >and they appear to have been directed towards a dead alley of drugs >and laissez faire. However-much the architects of conspiracy wished >to trash the minds of the young through culture - To 'trash the minds of the young through culture', one only needs look at mainstream TV... >>Without massive media hype, and without almost around the clock >>coverage, the hippie-beatnik rock, drug cult would never have gotten off >> the ground; it would have remained a localized oddity. The Beatles, >>with their twanging guitars, silly expressions, drug language and weird >> clothes, would not have amounted to a hill of beans. Instead, because >>the Beatles were given saturation coverage by the media, the United >>States has suffered one cultural shock after another. > >Did I miss Buddy Holly, James Dean, Elvis, Carl Perkins etc etc of the 50's He also ignores the fact that when the Beatles first came over here and first got the saturation coverage, their lyrics were no more radical than "I Want To Hold Your Hand"...they didn't start experimenting with drugs, and writing about it in their songs, until almost 2 years later... Also ignores the fact that it were icons of not only mainstream America, but of "law enforcement" such as the FBI and CIA that were experimenting with hallucinogenic drugs, usually without the knowledge of those being tested on... It wasn't the hippies who had a plan in the works to dump LSD into the water supply of a major American city... >Also, it is a little known or quoted fact that the Coca plant from which >cocaine comes is a scientifically proven 'miracle cure-all' plant containing >approx 14 alkaloids of which cocaine is one. Yes, and into the early years of the 20th century, the 'so
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Kosovo: IN THE NAME OF THE VICTIMS
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com If you are interested in a free subscription to The Konformist Newswire, please visit http://www.eGroups.com/list/konformist/ and sign up. Or, e-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the subject: "I NEED 2 KONFORM!!!" (Okay, you can use something else, but it's a kool catch phrase.) Visit the Klub Konformist at Yahoo!: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/klubkonformist Subj: Kosovo Yediot Date: Monday, April 12, 1999 09:09:43 PM From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] What is striking about this analysis is that it appeared in Israel's widest circulation daily Yediot Ahronot. Also, a prediction. The Vatican's foul hand will soon be found behind the Kosovo War. Barry WHAT THE NEW "NATO WAR" IN EUROPE IS REALLY ALL ABOUT "US reasons for joining Germany and Nato on looting the territories of the Russian allies extend beyond the obvious military and economic control this provides over Europe. The condition was from the start that NATO gives the US a free hand in the Middle East." - Prof. Tanya Reinhart IN THE NAME OF THE VICTIMS By Professor Tanya Reinhart The public debate about Kosovo in Israel is influenced by the analogy between Kosovo and Jerusalem. Both are areas which two nations view as their historical land. Therefore, paradoxically, Sharon and the right wing are against the US-Nato attack (fearing a similar intervention against Israeli occupation of Jerusalem), while, the 'enlightened' camp supports it enthusiastically. This however is a fake debate, since both sides share the same presupposition that the war is about the rights of the Albanians in Kosovo. In fact, there is nothing further from the US and NATO than humanitarian motives. Long before the attack it could be obvious that Milosevic will respond with a massive ethnic cleansing, just as Israel would have done, had the US and NATO decided to bomb Jerusalem following, say, a request by the Islamic Jihad. (Official warnings about this scenario were issued by the head of the CIA, and others in Europe.) If concern about the hundreds of thousands of Albanian refugees was the motive for this war, one could expect US-NATO to accept with cheers Yugoslavia's proposal for a cease fire. Though distorted in the reports of the following days, the proposal as broadcasted on April 6, was to withdraw Yugoslav forces from Kosovo, to allow the refugees to return and to resume negotiations with the Albanian Leader Ibrahim Rugova. It was at least possible to give Milosevic a week or two, to check his intentions, while the US-NATO forces around him stay to make sure he is not playing tricks. But US-NATO only needed a few hours to reject this proposal. They announced, first, that they are unwilling to stop bombing until Milosevic accept also the condition of letting NATO forces in and, next, that they no longer recognize Rugova as the representative of the Kosovar Albanians, and they are willing to negotiate only with the "Kosovo Liberation Army" (KLA). Increased bombing, with civilian casualties and huge destruction in Kosovo followed directly. Some background: In 1989 Milosevic cancelled the autonomy the Albanians had in Kosovo since 1974, and brutally suppressed their political and cultural infra-structure. In opposition, a mass independence movement has grown, which declared Kosovo a republic, and elected Rugova, in 1992, as its president. The movement, which adhered to non-violent struggle [[just like the Palestinians' (hah)]], was fiercely repressed by the tyrant Milosevic, without the West even blinking an eye. In 1996, the KLA was founded. It is a foreign-funded brutal organization with no recognized leadership or program. It terrorized not only the Serb residents of Kosovo, but also the political movement, which continued to call for non-violent struggle, and which elected Rugova again as its president, in 1998. Under the pressure of US- NATO, the KLA was made partner to the Rambouillet negotiations which preceded the bombing. While the KLA supports the US-NATO bombing, and the demand to let NATO forces into Yugoslavia, Rugova issued on April 1st a joint declaration with Milosevic stating their readiness to search a peaceful solution, without NATO. US-NATO interpreters reacted to the televised declaration with rumors of all kinds: that he looked tired, that he is wounded or under house arrest, and that the declaration took place, in fact, two years ago. Now they announce that only the murderers from the KLA are their partners for negotiations. This is not how one behaves when one is worried about the Albanian tragedy, or peace in Europe. What is this war about, then? Until 1989, the Soviet block was a giant body dominating more than half of Europe. In 1949, US,
[CTRL] Fwd: Day 21, Update 2 (Apr. 13; 10:30PM EST) - A Special TiM GW Bulletin on Kosovo Crisis
FROM PHOENIX, ARIZONA The Special "Kosovo Crisis" Truth in Media Global Watch Bulletins, such as the one enclosed below, can also be accessed at our Web site: www.truthinmedia.org which is being updated throughout the day. DAY 21, Update 2 --- Apr. 13, 1999; 10:30PM EDT HEADLINES Brisbane 1. More Fake Graves? Alaska2. Russian TV Coverage Disappears from C-Span Washington3. Buchanan on Kosovo: "The Mess They've Made" Phoenix 4. Why Are the Serbs the New World Order's First Victims? Indianapolis5. Russian 19th Century Philosopher Predicted Antichrist's Arrival -- 1. More Fake Graves? BRISBANE, Apr. 13 - Two TiM readers, half a world apart - one in Brisbane, Australia, another in Minnesota - have independently concluded that the satellite photos of the alleged new graves offered as "proof" of "Serb atrocities" by Washington's "lie and deny" PR factory are - FAKES. Here was their reasoning (the photos are posted at our Web site within this story so you can check them out for yourself): "U.S. Lie Satellites! - ANOTHER PROPAGANDA CON," read the headline from a message we received from Australia. The photographs shown below came from page 10 of Brisbane's Courier Mail, the main daily in this city. They purport to show "recently dug mass graves" (marked with the [] shape, center of picture) near the Kosovo town of Pusto Selo. Although the date of 9 April is given on the picture on the right, no date is given on the picture to the left. This leaves the impression that the two photos are "before and after" shots of the area. "But the 'grave diggers' must have been busy little beavers," our correspondent writes, "as new buildings have also "shot up" while the 'graves' were being dug. (see top left corner of the right hand picture). >From which our correspondent concludes: "I am no aerial reconnaissance expert, but considering it is spring in Kosovo, and it takes about 12 weeks to erect a substantial building like the one in the photograph, the picture on the left must have been taken in winter, and of course the alleged " recently dug graves," and the many other minor landmarks not evident in the left side photograph, would have been snow covered. If this is not the case then the left side pictures must have been taken before the last winter and is so old no reasonable comparison could be made. Or perhaps they are both the same picture and the guy with the airbrush got carried away, and wiped the house out?'"! Our correspondent from Minnesota noticed some other oddities about this satellite "proof" of nothing. "I noted that the shadows of the buildings are in exactly the same position in both pictures," he wrote. " Were both of these pictures somehow taken at exactly the same time of day, on exactly the same day of the year, and from exactly the same place in the sky? Unless this is a satellite photo from a satellite that is in a coordinated orbit over Pusto Selo, there is something wrong with this skit." --- TiM Ed.: Long time TiM readers will recall, of course, that fake satellite photos are nothing new when it comes to the NOW "lie and deny" PR con-artists manufacturing the "proof" of their claims. Check out "Kosovo: Srebrenica II?" (Day 8, Update 1, Item 5, Mar. 31 - available at our Web site). --- 2. Russian TV Coverage Disappears from C-Span ALASKA, Apr. 13 - We received today the following feedback from a visitor to our site, Rev. Steven Smith, a pastor from Alaska. Here is his comment: "Thank you for you site. I am sure it has been all-consuming as a result of the recent day events over Kosovo, note not Kosova! (the Albanian term). I am praying that prominent Americans, and more of the general public at large, will dig beyond the surface and realize that there is more here than meets the eye. I am sorry that we have been cut off form Russian television in recent days that was covering news from Serbia. Russian television just vanished from the C-Span coverage. Probably the things that outrages me the most is that our government has such control of the media coverage, and that it desires to keep the American population ignorant. If that doesn't border on dictatorship I don't know what does. Praying for the truth to come to the surface before it is to late." Rev. Steven Smith --- 3. Buchanan on Kosovo: "The Mess They've Made" WASHINGTON, Apr. 13 - The Republican presidential candidate, Pat Buchanan, today lashed out once again at the Clinton administration's handling of the Kosovo crisis in a column published today by the Washington Post on page A21. But don't bother looking for it at the Post's Web site. We've tried. And came up empty-handed. Which is why we cannot give you the URL to Buchanan's article. Instead, we bring it to you here in full: "Three weeks into Bill Clinton's Balkan adventure and America risks a debacle. The human rights
[CTRL] Fwd: Konformist: Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!!
Please send as far and wide as possible. Thanks, Robert Sterling Editor, The Konformist http://www.konformist.com http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/skolnick.htm http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/040899.htm http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/040999a.htm http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/0406999b.htm http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/041299.htm Sherman Skolnick Sounds Off!!! http://www.konformist.com/skolnick/1999/030699.htm Did Monica Lewinsky get AIDS from Bill Klinton? Did our chief pecker also rape Tipper Gore? KONFORMING MINDS WANT TO KNOW!!! Sherman H. Skolnick Recorded phone message: (773) 731-1100 Office, 8 A.M. to midnight, 7 days: (773) 375-5741 9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870 04-08-1999 Deportation of Serbs in U.S.? By Sherman H. Skolnick Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides" Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts Is there a Hitler-like Gestapo group in the U.S. authorized to act by the Clinton White House? Are they being used just as if the U.S. had declared war on Serbia? Knowledgeable sources contend the White House is preparing to quickly round up and throw out of the country between 100,000 and a quarter million Serbian alien residents quietly living in the U.S. Some believe few legal formalities will be used. (In the past, a federal judge, a Latino, in California barely escaped being framed into prison by the Justice Department because he dared proclaim that the Immigration & Naturalization Service, INS, and the FBI, are the American Gestapo.) Just like the onset of World War One and World War Two? Is this the same, 1999-style? Stay tuned. Sherman H. Skolnick Recorded phone message: (773) 731-1100 Office, 8 A.M. to midnight, 7 days: (773) 375-5741 9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870 04-09-1999 The Hitler-Style Plan By Sherman H. Skolnick Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides" Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts There are an estimated one hundred thousand to a quarter million Serbians living more or less quietly in the U.S. as alien residents. With the undeclared war of the U.S. against Serbia, is there a plan regarding such Serbians? Not mentioned in what some call the monopoly press are the presidential edicts to deal with so-called "emergencies". Blunt-talking sorts call them martial law provisions. (To misdirect the public, CBS has started a series called "Martial Law".) There is a growing clamor by Serbs in the U.S. against the Clinton White House and Pentagon. In efforts to stop this, Clinton has ordered that Serbians with green cards, resident aliens, be deported as silently as possible. Apparently this original plan has been scrapped in favor of an alternative one, to send the Serbs to certain detention camps, a replay of the Hitler-era. Plans to counter this, such as by federal court lawsuits, might not even be publicized. Why? The monopoly press seems to be acting like under war-time orders. (For a sinister analogy, see the book The Captive Press in the Third Reich by Oron J. Hale.) The largest concentration of Serbs, both aliens and naturalized citizens, is in the Chicago-area. Too many federal judges, such as in the Windy City, are both tied to the banking system and are blackmailable because of ties to questionable if not criminal enterprises. So an appeal to the courts for a remedy may well be fruitless. One of the most secret detention camps is offshore Alaska, originally designed to house blacks because of racial riots. This writer had this confirmed during a radio talk show he did in Anchorage. Is that where the alien Serbs are to be sent? The Immigration and Naturalization Service, as well as the FBI, have been told they could as well grab and detain Serbian-Americans, that is, citizens, who do not quickly supply their naturalization papers. Much of this has been confirmed by sources in and out of the INS and elsewhere. A cynical historian contends the calendar stating the year as 1999 is a fraud. It is, he loudly insists, actually 1938 and we are all in a time-warp. Stay tuned. Sherman H. Skolnick Recorded phone message: (773) 731-1100 Office, 8 A.M. to midnight, 7 days: (773) 375-5741 9800 So. Oglesby Ave., Chicago IL 60617-4870 04-09-1999 SERBS TO USE MISSILES? By Sherman H. Skolnick Producer/Moderator, Public Access Cable TV Program "Broadsides" Since 1963, Founder/Chairman, Citizen's Committee to Clean Up the Courts Their former patrons, the Soviets, have apparently left the Serbians with missiles capable of reaching Washington, D.C. Most concerned about this is the small group of admirals and generals in the U.S. Military who have opposed Commander-in-Chief Bill Clinton for several years. We have reported exclusively, starting in 1995, on the small group of flag officers who felt fully justified under the Military Code, to arrest their Commander-in-Chief on accusations t
[CTRL] Fwd: SNET: The War in the Balkans is Following a Script to Create War
-> SNETNEWS Mailing List News Release from Fritz Springmeier THE WAR IN THE BALKANS IS FOLLOWING A SCRIPT TO CREATE WAR Over two weeks ago, this author was given inside information that the World Order had pulled all their key people---specialists, and so forth out of San Diego, CA. These people were given a secret high level briefing which told them to leave San Diego by April 3rd, and that the reason they were to leave was that Russia was going to drop nuclear bombs on San Diego, Seattle, NYC, coastal cities on the eastern seaboard where U.S. naval forces (such as subs) are kept, and Biloxi, Miss. These important people were then moved to Colorado, Idaho, Montana, and Utah where they could be secure underground. Two of these people had lived through Vietnam, and no longer trusted their government to care about the people, and it is through these two that this information leaked to this author. This information is important, but what is even more alarming is that many other things support this information & lead to only one conclusion, a nuclear war has been planned against the United States by Russia, & the American public is being blindly led into this war. People who are aware of Dmitri Dutiman s prophecies may not be surprised by this state of affairs, but none the less are placed into the same position everyone else is in. That position is to ask, "Will this really take place?, "What can we do to prevent this? & "What can we do to prepare to survive such an attack?" and finally, "What will be the warning signs that bombs are about to drop?" This news release will try to answer these questions. Bad weather over Yugoslavia has apparently set back the script a few days. NATO says that they are two days behind because of bad weather. Apparently, the entire script must be played scene by scene, and the bad weather gave us a little more time. I also hope that by blowing the whistle on this devious plot over radio to 1 million listeners might make the plotters think twice about their play which has chillingly gone through act 1, act 2, act 3, and act 4 all according to the script. There are many interesting things about this Kosovo crisis that the news media is mostly ignoring, What will follow is some of the collaborating evidence and related affairs which the reader may not be aware of, Yugoslavia is like Russia s little brother. Since NATO s attacks on Yugoslavia, Russian television has repeatedly referred to Russia s close relationship to Yugoslavia. Russia has a treaty to protect Yugoslavia if it is attacked. What big brother would not defend his little brother? So why has not Russia honored their commitment to Yugoslavia? Perhaps they are moving to do just that. More on this in a moment. NATO and Yugoslavia are locked into this crisis which continues to escalate. NATO continues to weaken itself as it uses up its limited supply of cruise missiles and ammunition. The United States has been sending its reserves of food and medical supplies to the Balkans. The United States is greatly overextended. In order to fight in the Balkans, air force units patrolling northern Iraq had to be shifted to the Balkans theater. The aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf went to the Adriatic and the only American aircraft carrier in the Pacific is now in the Persian Gulf. The fighting in the Balkans has no strategic importance in relationship to a conflict between Russia and the U.S. In other words, we are preoccupied with a costly war which if we get into a war with Russia has no strategic value. According to eyewitnesses who have sat in on high level meetings, the Kosovo crisis is following a script. There are numerous clues that this is true, in fact, many items of the pre-written script are being played out before our eyes. On the Bill Brumbaugh radio show, this author warned that the next step in the script was for Russia to increase tensions and "rattle her sabres". This stage just began today, as the Russian government demanded that the United States and NATO stop the bombing in a few days or else they would take action. At the same time, Russia has announced they will try to form a group of world leaders to work on diffusing the crisis. For those who are still skeptical, lets postulate for the sake of discussion that Russia wanted to nuke the U.S. If so, then how would events be scripted? The Russians would not want to announce their intentions so they will wear a smiling mask that hides their true intentions. Instead of being bellicose like Kruschev, they will put on a calm nice front, so as not to alarm their prey. Further, there would have to be some kind of pretext that would justify to the Russian people that America was aggressively a threat to them, and that their honor, patriotism and morality called for a strong reaction. NATO has been portrayed in the Russian media as having broken several international laws to interfere in the internal affairs of the nation of Yugoslavia. The U.S. has
[CTRL] Skolnick: Kosovo Summary (fwd)
-Caveat Lector- SKOLNICK: KOSOVO SUMMARY (CNNS, 04/14/99) -- Sherman H. Skolnick, of the Citizens' Committee to Clean Up the Courts, reports as follows. (Contact info: recorded message, 773-731-1100; office, 773-375-5741): - Summary of Kosovo Stories by Sherman H. Skolnick (1) Kosovo Liberation Army are the major drug-lords in Europe, trafficking in narcotics from S.W. China, "China White", high purity heroin flooding Italy, rest of Europe, Germany (where KLA reportedly originally from) and New York and Chicago. Herr Clinton, no stranger himself to druglords, is protecting KLA druglords! (2) Oil discovered offshore in Adriatic, claimed separately and/or jointly by Rockefeller family, British Petroleum Co., the Vatican, Italy, Croatia, and Serbia, among others. Rockefellers and British Pete want to delay drilling to keep this large pool of oil, bigger than under Saudi, off the market to keep up oil prices. (3) Serbia reportedly has long-range missiles, left to them by their former patrons, the Soviets,--now get this--capable of reaching Washington, D.C. Fair is fair, right? If, without a declaration of war, we can bomb Belgrade near a hospital, surely they have the "right" to missile attack the U.S. Capitol. I take no delight or satisfaction as an American knowing this. I am not the only American appalled at our slide toward the dogs of war. (4) Federal agents, acting like the Nazi Gestapo, are apparently grabbing and detaining Serbs living quietly in the U.S. as resident aliens. That is, Serbs with "green cards". So far, no witness is ready to testify how these people are disappearing. Note: federal agencies transfer "prisoners" (legal or otherwise) through the underground facilities at the airport at Oklahoma City and several other locations including Denver. Are the green card Serbs being deported? Or sent to detention camps such as the one offshore Alaska, confirmed to me when I was on an Anchorage radio talk show with some of the construction workers who were high paid to build these camps offshore Alaska. Activists with some of the Serb organizations in Chicago have confirmed to me that something like this is happening. Of course, the monopoly press is silent on such matters. (5) Herr Clinton has numerous motives to divert attention with war or war-scares. He and the First Lady are facing federal criminal charges for embezzling 47 million dollars from Madison Guaranty Savings & Loan of Little Rock, owned by Susan McDougal's ex-husband Jim who apparently was murdered in prison the night before he was to testify about related matters. (6) Clinton and the First Lady are implicated in laundering hundreds of millions of dollars of dope funds disguised as currency and soybean deals through the Chicago markets: The Chicago Board of Trade, the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, and the Chicago Board Options Exchange. Stay tuned. -- CNNS (Conspiracy Nation News Service) is an INDEPENDENT news outlet, not owned by anyone. (But of course, we would say that, wouldn't we?) BEWARE THE CFR! BEWARE THE CIA! BEWARE THE KNIGHTS! http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cn.html http://www.shout.net/~bigred/cnns.html DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
[CTRL] DNA
-Caveat Lector- These polls re like DNA.you can tell by the DNA how you are going to vote if you go into the different areas of the USA. DNA supposedly tells all. Now I have type O blood, that goes back to the cavemen...in all fairness to me, however, I have the same blood type as Queen Elizabeth.so you see, there are a lot of us left. (just kidding) Now here is my question - somewhere out there someone who is an expert, tell me this. Darwin said we come from the monkies...yet we still have monkies.. if DNA is a history to our past, what is the DNA of a monkey. Do we have monkey DNA? When they talk of family trees, do they mean there are a bunch of monkies hanging from the tree by their tailsor is the apple in the garden of eden, really the secret of illumination if it hits you in the head like it did who was that, Fig Newton, or Isaac Newto, or what was that. Here I sit at 4:12 a.m. wondering if I have monkey DNA. Please help this lost confused soul...am I the end result of a monkey or what. Colleen' And if that be so, was the dog and cat and blue birds also monkies DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
Re: [CTRL] Genocide? Ethnic cleansing? IT'S ABOUT MONEY!!!
-Caveat Lector- Clinton now appeals to the greed of the Yuppie Nation..apparently he has found thier achilles heel - money. How is munitions stock doing these daysSchlumberger and the boys. I imagine Clinton will get a Nobel Peace award for this disaster Colleen DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER == CTRL is a discussion and informational exchange list. Proselyzting propagandic screeds are not allowed. Substancenot soapboxing! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory', with its many half-truths, misdirections and outright frauds is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRL gives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credeence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. Archives Available at: http://home.ease.lsoft.com/archives/CTRL.html http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
