[CTRL] religion and politics

[John Taylor]

>http://www.trincoll.edu/depts/csrpl/religame.pdf
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[CTRL] Drugs watch on web users

[John Taylor]

 http://www.telegraph.co.uk/

Electronic telegrapgh

ISSUE 1855 Friday 23 June 2000





  Drugs watch on web users
By Toby Harnden in Washington






 News and public affairs - Office of National Drug Control Policy


 What's new - Drug Enforcement Administration



  THE White House has been secretly tracking the internet activities of
people who have been surfing the net for drugs-related topics.
The Office of National Drug Control Policy has inserted a trace known as a
"cookie" into computers that have visited its anti-drugs websites while
searching for topics such as "cannabis" or "grow pot". The cookies are able
to monitor internet activities and match them with other online information
to identify the user.

Joe Lockhart, a spokesman for President Clinton, admitted that the cookies
could gather "information about consumers and their internet use". He said:
"We will take all steps necessary to halt these practices now." Richard
Smith, who discovered cookies on his computer while conducting research for
pharmaceutical companies, said: "It's really creepy and Big Brotherish."


20 June 2000: China and US may link up in drug war
23 March 2000: Drugs 'kill 44 Americans a day'









 Sausage firm boss kills inspectors

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Ritalin Raising Kids To Be Drug Addicts?

[Samantha L.]

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> > When I was in high school you bought stuff for booster club
>  > now it is soda and candy.  SUGAR and then covered up with
>  > drugs.
>
>  Good point, Piper, I forgot about this. The schools in my town do have
>  soda machines in plain view of the students. We had them when I was in
>  H.S., but they were in a hallway that was gated off until after lunch.

  When we lived in Pa., I was surprised to learn that our child's middle
school sold ice cream sandwiches and soda in the lunch line separately from
the regular fare.  Some students bought only these items for lunch (more than
one of each, too.)  There was no monitoring of this and no reason their
parents would ever know either.

Samantha

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[CTRL] Fw: UN warns slave trade growing

[J Taylor]

>
>U.N. Warns That Trafficking in Human Beings Is Growing
>By BARBARA CROSSETTE
>New York Times, 0.6.25
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> UNITED NATIONS, June 23 -- Trafficking in people is now the
> fastest-growing business of organized crime, and it is being run by
> new, barely understood networks that have sidelined traditional
> criminal syndicates, the top anti-crime official at the United
> Nations said this week.
>
> Pino Arlacchi, an Italian sociologist who worked closely on
> fighting the Mafia before becoming director general of the United
> Nations Office for Drug Control and Crime Prevention three years
> ago, said in an interview Thursday that the tragic deaths this week
> of 58 Chinese migrants trying to reach Britain was "just the tip of
> the iceberg, and one of several recent accidents that show the
> magnitude and seriousness of the problem."
>
> He said that reliable estimates indicate that 200 million people
> may now be in some way under the sway or in the hands of
> traffickers of various kinds worldwide. He said that while four
> centuries of slavery moved about 11.5 million people out of Africa,
> in the last decade more than 30 million women and children may have
> been trafficked within and from Southeast Asia for sexual purposes
> and sweatshop labor. Rates are also high in the countries of
> Eastern Europe and the former Soviet Union.
>
> "This is the fastest growing criminal market in the world because
> of the number of people who are involved, the scale of profits
> being generated for criminal organizations -- and because of its
> multifold nature," said Mr. Arlacchi, a United Nations under
> secretary general. "We don't have just sexual exploitation. We
> don't have just economic slavery, which includes two things, forced
> labor and debt enslavement. We have also a lot of exploitation of
> migrants. And we have classic slavery.
>
> "If you put all this together under the same concept, you get the
> biggest violation of human rights in the world," he said.
>
> Among the proposals he is making to governments is that
> anti-slavery laws be reintroduced where they have lapsed or been
> taken off the books. He is also considering recommending temporary
> residence to would-be immigrants who cooperate with authorities in
> identifying criminals who are trafficking in people.
>
> "This a measure that in some countries, like Italy and Austria, is
> showing very important results in understanding the nature of
> networks -- how the victims are attracted, how they are recruited
> and the way they are exploited," he said.
>
> "But first of all, we really have to understand the size of the
> phenomenon," Mr. Arlacchi said. "It is a sensitive political issue.
> No country likes to admit to having sexual exploitation and human
> trafficking. So we have to be very careful how we deal with the
> source countries." In Europe, he said, large numbers of migrants
> are arriving from Africa, the former Soviet bloc, China, Southeast
> Asia and, lately, India.
>
> Narcotics is still a bigger profit earner for organized crime than
> trafficking in people, he said. But the trade in human beings is
> growing quickly enough to demand better estimates of its value and
> links that the smuggling networks, strung along illegal migration
> routes, have with other areas of international crime, he added. In
> Europe, Mr. Arlacchi said, traffickers from Eastern Europe and Asia
> have already pushed crime gangs out of street prostitution in
> Western Europe.
>
> The sexual slave trade was never acceptable to the Sicilian Mafia,
> Mr. Arlacchi said. "They are totally out of this business and they
> are losing ground vis a vis all other international competitors
> because of that." Albanians and other Balkan criminal groups, known
> for their ferocity, dominate street trade in drugs and prostitutes.
>
> "The Albanians are particularly ferocious," he said. "In three or
> four years in the biggest Italian cities they have succeeded in
> destroying the competition of the other organizations. Albanians
> scare the Sicilian Mafia."
>
> Chinese migrants are not found often in the sex trade, Mr. Arlacchi
> said. Like the migrants who died on the way to Britain and many who
> find their way to North America, he said, most Chinese are headed
> for restaurant or sweatshop work, and disappear into neighborhoods
> and businesses run by other Asians.
>
> Compared with Italian or other European syndicates, he said,
> Chinese and other Asian networks are very closed, and therefore
> hard to penetrate.
>
> "The Chinese work very much inside closed communities," he said.
>
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[CTRL] Where's the Smoking Gun? Bill Lann Lee hasn't established "pattern and practice."

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

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Where's the Smoking Gun?

Bill Lann Lee hasn't established "pattern and practice."

By Jill Stewart


The secret of successful bluffing is that the poker player not
only be a good faker and liar, but that the bluffer give off
enough circumstantial cues that observers will be tricked. It is
with this truism in mind that I turn to the Rampart Division
scandal rocking the Los Angeles Police Department.

The big story these days is not really Rampart per se, but the
far more politically and institutionally devastating claim by the
Department of Justice that Rampart is merely one example of
corruption and criminal behavior by cops that the feds say proves
a "pattern and practice" of such wrongdoing throughout the LAPD.

This contention by Assistant Attorney General Bill Lann Lee and
his team of prosecutors is the result of a four-year
investigation by the feds into scores of troubling incidents
involving police, reams of documents that create the paper trail
on those incidents, and a detailed probe into the way the LAPD
brass do and do not react to corruption and undue force once they
discover it.

Or so Lee would like everyone to believe -- particularly the
dweebs on the Los Angeles City Council who are itching to invite
the feds to run the LAPD via a federal consent decree.

Don't get me wrong. I am not about to claim that the LAPD is
clean outside of Rampart. It could indeed have rotten cops and
violent uncontrolled cops in every division of the city, all
operating freely because of the code of silence. The department
might even have top brass who know about the rot and look the
other way, allowing all this outrageous activity to continue
unabated.

The only problem is, the evidence strongly suggests that Bill
Lann Lee hasn't found this widespread secret society of shame.
And if the feds haven't smoked out the supposed platoons of bad
officers and their acquiescing bosses after four years, it's
anybody's guess as to whether they are out there.

The evidence against Lee's claim of a "pattern and practice"
within the LAPD is reflected in the federal investigation itself.
The federal probe was launched by the Civil Rights Division of
the Justice Department in 1996 when Ray Fisher was the president
of the L.A. Police Commission and Willie Williams was the chief.
I have a very fat set of documents on my desk that show how the
work was conducted by Steven H. Rosenbaum, the special litigation
counsel in charge of the Los Angeles probe, who delved years
backward to 1991 in his search for problems.

One of the oddest things about the federal investigation is the
broad scope of the requests made by the Civil Rights Division. I
have read through the pile sitting on my desk, and it is plain to
see that, over the years, Rosenbaum's requests for potentially
damning information did not begin to get dramatically more
detailed. They did not begin to clearly zero in on certain
divisions, nor did the requests hammer away at a certain group of
officers or top brass.

One source of mine who was intimately involved in helping city
officials respond to the probe Rosenbaum conducted says the feds
did not, in fact, find a "pattern and practice" of corruption,
criminal behavior, or top brass looking the other way. "It was a
fishing expedition for four years," says my source, "and, toward
their end, the documents show the DOJ is pulling back and making
the sort of requests which you might conceive of if you were in
the mop-up stage, because you hadn't found your smoking gun."

Nobody involved in the ongoing top-secret meetings between Lee,
Mayor Richard Riordan, City Attorney James Hahn, and City Council
representatives is leaking information from the discussions, so
it is hard to know what stage the talks have entered. What is
known publicly is that Lee is pressing the city to agree to a
federal consent decree, and various cop-hating groups such as the
American Civil Liberties Union and much of the City Council are
drooling to see the city sign such a decree.

The decree would last for a decade or more and could conceivably
give the federal government the power to oversee the LAPD's
Internal Affairs Division and the power to tell Chief Bernard
Parks how to mete out discipline among the troops -- although Lee
has implied he doesn't want nearly that much power over the LAPD.

Despite the lack of serious leaks from the talks between Lee's
bunch and City Hall's bunch, certain bits of information have
surfaced. Key among them is the apparent fact that Lee has not
produced any evidence of a series of heretofore secret scandals,
or a layer of bosses gone bad that can be called a "pattern and
practice" inside the LAPD.

One of the people involved in the top-secret discussions tells
me, "We have agreed, and we all believe that there can be no
leaks and no discussion in the media as to how things are going
and what the negotiations consist of."

That is truly admirable. But I

[CTRL] Council votes 8-5 to give Democrats $4 million

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://www.dailynewslosangeles.com

Daily News (Los Angeles)
Saturday, June 24, 2000

Council votes 8-5 to give Democrats $4 million

By Rick Orlov, Staff Writer


Faced with arguments they might embarrass the city otherwise, the
Los Angeles City Council voted Friday to give $4 million to help
cover a shortfall facing organizers of the Democratic National
Convention in August.

In its 8-5 vote, with Valley Council members Hal Bernson and Alex
Padilla helping provide the bare majority needed, the council
also decided to make Mayor Richard Riordan and developer Ed Roski
Jr. pay as well by requiring the Democratic National Convention
Committee to use all the $1 million letters of credit each man
had committed for the event.

Riordan and Roski were briefed by convention officials and agreed
to the terms, even though the letters of credit originally were
designed to cover any cash shortage the organizers faced.

"It seems to me, if this city is being asked to come up with some
money, we ought to make sure they use up all they have," said
Councilwoman Jackie Goldberg, who made the proposal along with
several other conditions before she agreed to vote for the
spending.

"My initial inclination when I heard about this was to vote
against it. All my staff and all my political advisers wanted me
to vote against it. I was asked what I wanted to vote for it, and
these are my conditions."

The two other major conditions she demanded were to make Pershing
Square, across from the Regal Biltmore Hotel, the official
protest site for the convention and also to create a special ad
hoc committee to review police security plans.

Deputy Chief Maurice Moore said the Los Angeles Police Department
opposed both proposals, but the council approved them to win
Goldberg's support. The issue is expected to be raised again next
Wednesday when Police Chief Bernard C. Parks briefs the council
on security planning.

The vote represented a major victory for convention planners, who
are headin g into the final six weeks leading up to the event, to
be held Aug. 14-17 at Staples Center.

"We are pleased to have an expanded partnership with the city and
are glad we will be able to go ahead with all our work," said
Noelia Rodriguez, chief executive of the Host 2000 Committee.

The money is needed by July 1, she said, and will go primarily
for work at Staples Center, where the convention will be held.

Voting against the spending were council members Laura Chick,
Mike Feuer, Cindy Miscikowski, Joel Wachs and Rudy Svorinich.
Those voting in favor were Bernson, Padilla, Goldberg, Ruth
Galanter, Mike Hernandez, Nate Holden, Nick Pacheco and Mark
Ridley-Thomas. John Ferraro and Rita Walters were absent.

Wachs, a candidate for mayor next year, has led the opposition to
the $4 million payment, saying it's an example of why the public
has such distrust of government and secession movements are
thriving.

"People are looking to us to spend their money wisely, on
services they need and not to bail out some politically powerful
people," Wachs said. "People are looking at what we are doing and
will remember."

The other four opponents on the council argued that convention
officials should be required to live up to the original deal:
that it would completely finance the campaign through private
funds, aside from $7 million in in-kind services the city is
providing for security and traffic control.

"This is almost like a bait-and-switch," Chick said.

Feuer said it will set a precedent regarding the city's
credibility if it is willing to agree to changing the terms of an
agreement.

Holden, leading the effort to allocate the funds, blasted
opponents.

"You all are a bunch of turkeys," Holden shouted. "This is such
hypocrisy. We give thousands of dollars every year to the Academy
Awards and other events. This is an important event for the city
and we should do all we can to make it work."

Hernandez also defended the spending as an investment that will
see a $135 million return due to the influx of some 35,000
visitors including delegates, media representatives and others.

The action prompted some mixed emotions among downtown business
people.

While supporting the spending, they opposed the designation of
Pershing Square as the official protest site.

Carol Schatz of the Central City Association said the park,
located on a square block in the heart of the Central Business
District, is directly across from where delegates and national
officials will be staying and will present other security
problems since the jewelry district is just to the east of it.

Several others from the Central Business District also raised
concerns about traffic problems that would be created both on the
street level and with the Metro Rail system.

In addition, they argued that the site that had been designated
is on a large parking lot adjacent to Staples Center, where
stage, microphone and bathroom facilities will be provided.


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[CTRL] CNN: Ray hires new lawyers to wrap up Whitewater probe (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From: Ken Chafin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: CNN: Ray hires new lawyers to wrap up Whitewater probe

Clinton News Network-June 26, 2000

Ray hires new lawyers to wrap up Whitewater probe



WASHINGTON (CNN) -- With two pending investigations of the White
House left on his plate, Whitewater Independent Counsel Robert
Ray announced Monday that he has hired three new lawyers and a
new chief of investigations to complete work on the six-year
investigation of President Clinton. Kim R. Widup, the new chief
of investigations, was also the lead investigator for the
independent counsel's prosecution of former Secretary of
Agriculture Michael Espy. The three attorneys, Gordan Kromberg,
Phillip Hatfield, and D. Thomas Ferraro, also have backgrounds as
prosecutors.

The independent counsel's press release Monday said the new hires
replace other attorneys who have left the office.

Ray -- a former federal prosecutor from New York who took over
the investigation from Kenneth Starr last fall -- is charged with
writing the final report on the office's six-year investigation
of President Clinton and first lady Hillary Rodham Clinton.

He filed the first of several final reports in March, dealing
with the Clinton White House's improper acquisition of some 900
FBI files -- including those of many prominent Republicans. Ray
concluded that there was no criminal wrongdoing, and the incident
was the result of series of blunders by Craig Livingstone, a
low-level White House security officer.

Last week, Ray concluded he would not seek charges against the
first lady in the administration's 1993 dismissal of seven White
House Travel Office employees despite "substantial evidence" of
her involvement." The evidence, Ray's office said, directly
contradicted Clinton's longstanding denials that she had nothing
to do with the controversial job turnover in the office, which
handles travel arrangements for the president, White House staff
and the traveling press corps. Ray is actively exploring whether
to seek indictments against the president in connection with the
Monica Lewinsky and Paula Jones cases, including whether Clinton
urged Lewinsky to lie about their relationship in her affidavit
filed as part of the sexual misconduct lawsuit by Jones.

Ray said Sunday that a decision of whether to indict the
president will be made shortly after he leaves office in January
2001.

Ray is also continuing work on the long-running Whitewater
investigation, which is expected to wrap up by September. The
final report is expected to focus "extensively" on Mrs. Clinton's
role in the Whitewater land development phase of the
investigation -- which began in 1994 with questions about the
real estate partnership between then-Arkansas Gov. Clinton, Mrs.
Clinton and bankers Jim and Susan McDougal.


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[CTRL] FBI Database Monitors Pro-Life Groups (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

-- Forwarded message --
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 17:43:13 -0600
From: Howard Bleicher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

FBI Database Monitors Pro-Life Groups

  Washington -- It has been rumored for years, but dismissed as
nutty conspiracy theory, that the federal government has been
assembling an extensive database on pro-life organizations under
the auspices of tracking potential criminals involved with
"domestic terrorism." The Justice Department has admitted such a
federal task force exists but has denied it tracks innocent
civilians or groups.

  Then how to explain newly obtained internal Justice Department
documents that lay out justification for "intrusive investigative
activity" by the FBI, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and
Firearms, the U.S. Postal Inspection and U.S. Marshals services
and other federal law-enforcement agencies to compile dossiers on
groups as divergent as the National Conference of Catholic
Bishops, the National Rifle Association and the Women's Coalition
for Life?

  The judiciary monitoring group Judicial Watch has obtained
hundreds of pages on this secret project called VAAPCON, an
acronym for Violence Against Abortion Providers Conspiracy,
sometimes just shortened to VAAP.

  These never-before-seen records detail not just suspected
criminal activities by some factions of the pro-life movement,
but also the political activities, biographies and lobbying
efforts by some of the most well-known - and law-abiding groups -
in the country.

  Consider this VAAPCON entry called "Profiles of Pro-Life
Groups.  NOT PARTICIPATING IN DIRECT ACTION." It lists the
National Conference of Catholic Bishops, Americans United for
Life, Feminists for Life, Women's Coalition for Life, the
Christian Coalition and Concerned Women for America.

  In one of the documents dating back to 1994 or early 1995, an
entry concerns the Catholic bishops' group: "Led by [the late]
Cardinal John O' Connor, the Conference is considered by many to
be the broadest, best organized and most powerful of the pro-life
groups. The Conference is primarily engaged in education and
provides information and technical assistance to pro-life offices
in the 189 dioceses and 18,000 parishes across the United States.
They strongly condemned the shooting of [Wichita, Kan.] Dr.
[George] Tiller, saying that 'there is no room in the pro-life
movement for violence.' They oppose the Clinic Access bill now
pending in Congress." (This reference apparently was to the 1994
Freedom of Access to Clinics law.)

  Then there's this entry on the Women's Coalition for Life: They
"describe themselves as both pro-feminist and pro-life. It's an
umbrella organization of approximately 1.8 million members,
linking 15 existing grass-roots groups led by women opposed to
abortion. Founded in April 1992, the coalition counsels women in
crisis pregnancies and lobbies for antiabortion legislation. They
have formed a 'Susan B.  Anthony List' to rival Emily's List and
provide financial support to pro-life women candidates in 1994."

  The federal snoops had this to say about one of the nation's
largest women's group: "With about 600,000 members, Concerned
Women for America focuses on social issues like abortion ... but
has also attacked the Administration's health-care package and
the economic stimulus package. More recently, they attempted to
derail the nomination of Dr. Joycelyn Elders as U.S. Surgeon
General"

  Then there's this item from the secret database: "The Christian
Coalition is an evangelical advocacy group founded by the Rev.
Pat Robertson after his 1988 campaign for President. In the past,
the Coalition focused on such issues as abortion They are
presently trying to move more towards the mainstream. At their
recent annual conference, it was decided to expand their agenda
to include the economy and health-care reform. They engage almost
exclusively in lobbying and grass-roots organizing."

  Larry Klayman, general counsel of Judicial Watch, whose group
obtained the documents under a Freedom of Information Act
lawsuit, asks: "What in the world are Janet Reno, Hillary, Bill
and their VAAPCON task force doing using law-enforcement
personnel to infiltrate, collect and assemble database
information of this type? We were told by one source that some in
the FBI objected to the monitoring of these groups on legal and
ethical grounds but were overruled by upper levels at Justice."

  What is curious to even two senior federal law-enforcement
officials, one at the FBI and one at the Justice Department, is
that the database is under the auspices of the Criminal Division
and that virtually all entries are part of what's called an "FI"
tag - that is, a "full-investigation" label. "This is wrong and
it ought to be exposed for what it is, a political witch-hunt,"
said a concerned FBI agent.

  Mixed in with the bishops, for example, is information on
violent groups and astounding details on surveillance and
monitoring techniques by a variety of fed

[CTRL] [smashthestate] 4_Study of Waco-The Children

[lloyd]

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Date: Monday, June 05, 2000 3:21 PM

How much care did the FBI Hostage Rescue Team show for the numerous children that it 
knew were trapped in the Waco standoff
between it and the adult Branch Davidians?

In her report "Beyond The Voice Of Reason," criminology professor Dr. Fran Haga writes 
that:

"Hope for some time was expressed that the children might
have taken shelter in the buried school bus which had
been accessible through a trap door - at the more
northern end of the building (see trap door marked on
body recovery diagram 4). However, shortly after 6 AM
April 19, 1993, FBI Agent R.J. Craig's CEV had knocked
that end of the building from its foundation and had
buried in rubble the trapdoor leading to the buried
school bus."

This is beyond dispute; Agent Craig testified during the House Waco hearings (as Dr. 
Haga relates):

"... to destroying stairwells and to following a plan to
herd the Davidians to the center."

Thus, the FBI admitted to the use of armored vehicles against a flimsy building in 
full knowledge that many children were inside of it - all in an effort to "herd" the 
occupants to undestroyed parts of the building.

As Dr. Haga continues, the CEVs penetrated so far into the building - a building full 
of children - during this effort to
systematically destroy it in order to "herd" occupants to a part to be left standing - 
as to disappear into the building; the CEV at the front did so at least once, and it 
was intentional.

She relates:

"The audio record which once existed of taped
communications between the vehicles and their command
posts indicated that the CEV making that frontal entry
was directed to crash into the concrete block room and
knock it down. These directions were issued while the
entry runs were underway, not prior to them as part of
any over all plan."

The "concrete block room" would later gain fame as "the bunker."

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[CTRL] How Planets Kill

[Byron R Wahl]

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DATE: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:22:10
From: "BR Wahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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..SECRET: How Planets Kill...
This discussion has absolutely nothing whatever to do with astrology. It concerns 
the electrodynamics of the solar system.
The planets modulate the solar field of force.  At birth, every person is 
"imprinted" with the prevailing electrical dynamics of the solar field.  At death, a 
similar configuration is in effect.  Simultaneity is the key.
The heliocentric positions of the planets cause the mischief.  Looking outward 
from the center of the sun, there are 36 angles of separation between the nine planets.
When fourteen or more of the transiting heliocentric planetary angles of 
separation simultaneously match many natal heliocentric planetary angles of separation 
death is the usual result. If not terminal, the victim experiences unusual distress, 
debilitation, and frequently pain and injury. Major surgery and illness often 
accompany such matchings.
The simultaneous matching of the angles must be exact to within one degree of arc.
How the natal "imprinting" (a disputed concept) is carried within every person 
throughout their life is a complex problem which deserves careful study.
Anyone who studies the data will soon recognize the astounding importance of 
Mercury..This suggests that massive metallic objects closely orbiting the sun should 
be guarded against.
Interesting matchings may be seen in the impeachment of Clinton and in the timing 
of the federal attack upon David Koresh -- the final attack.
There appears to be a widespread conspiracy to keep this knowledge from the 
public. This is very unfortunate because a comprehensive understanding of the 
mechanism involved would benefit medical science enormously.
Computer calculation programs which list heliocentric planetary angles of 
separation are hard come by. Those programs which should do so simply ignore the topic 
entirely. A DOS program from circa 1991 called "Prima" does so in a user-friendly 
manner. It was published by Matrix Software.
.B.R. Wahl   < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >  26 June 2000...


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DATE: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 22:22:10
From: "BR Wahl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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..SECRET: How Planets Kill...
This discussion has absolutely nothing whatever to do with astrology. It concerns 
the electrodynamics of the solar system.
The planets modulate the solar field of force.  At birth, every person is 
"imprinted" with the prevailing electrical dynamics of the solar field.  At death, a 
similar configuration is in effect.  Simultaneity is the key.
The heliocentric positions of the planets cause the mischief.  Looking outward 
from the center of the sun, there are 36 angles of separation between the nine planets.
When fourteen or more of the transiting heliocentric planetary angles of 
separation simultaneously match many natal heliocentric planetary angles of separation 
death is the usual result. If not terminal, the victim experiences unusual distress, 
debilitation, and frequently pain and injury. Major surgery and illness often 
accompany such matchings.
The simultaneous matching of the angles must be exact to within one degree of arc.
How the natal "imprinting" (a disputed concept) is carried within every person 
throughout their life is a complex problem which deserves careful study.
Anyone who studies the data will soon recognize the astounding importance of 
Mercury..This suggests that massive metallic objects closely orbiting the sun should 
be guarded against.
Interesting matchings may be seen in the impeachment of Clinton and in the timing 
of the federal attack upon David Koresh -- the final attack.
There appears to be a widespread conspiracy to keep this knowledge from the 
public. This is very unfortunate because a comprehensive understanding of the 
mechanism involved would benefit medical science enormously.
Computer calculation programs which list heliocentric planetary angles of 
separation are hard come by. Those programs which should do so simply ignore the topic 
entirely. A DOS program from circa 1991 called "Prima" does so in a user-friendly 
manner. It was published by Matrix Software.
.B.R. Wahl   < [EMAIL PROTECTED] >  26 June 2000...


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[CTRL] The Alleged Conversing Computer on BCPOLITICS

[Franklin Wayne Poley]

Is AKC for real? I don't know. COULD it be a computer program using
various aliases? I am 99% sure it could be; and that the
17th. Machine-Learning Conference to be held in a few days will COVER IT
UP. Indeed they won't even ask the question as I have done. If Internet
discussion becomes the medium for the best minds in the citizenry of our
democracies, what happens when even better artificial minds are pitted
against them? We become slaves without even knowing it.
FWP

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But AKC, Jones-Jose-Catweasle-Barry-et-al is way ahead of us! Now what
does that do to the "body politic" of the near future when the
Constitution of Canada is written and rewritten on blank computer screens?
Who can compete in an Internet political debate with a state-of-the-art
computer?
FWP

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James Gluck
IBM

Dear Mr. Gluck:
   If the Human Genome Project can decipher 3.2 billion pieces
of code, I have to think that it is reasonable to undertake a similar
scale mega-project to decipher the English vernacular. That is what I had
called IBM about a couple of years ago when I first completed a draft of
"Machine Psychology". I think it would take a company as large as IBM to
even get the project started by declaring that it can be done and that an
estimate of the time/funding required would be ?
Sincerely-FWP

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Subject: [ML] A Challenge for ICML-2000

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> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2000 16:19:52 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kiri Wagstaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: Franklin Wayne Poley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [ML] NLP 1/2
>
> > Actually, Tom, what drives my questions is not understanding = getting it
> > but contemplating that all those experts in natural language out there
> > (educators, psychologists, linguists etc.) might already "have it". They
> > might already KNOW all the rules for first rate conversational ability (if
> > they pool their knowledge)...and frankly my opinion right now is that they
> > probably already DO 'have it'. I will hold to that opinion until I see a
> > detailed example of a situation/scenario/set of circumstances where the
> > author is saying...we can't figure out the rules here.
>
> I have been following this conversation with interest.  Frank, your
> question (as you explain it) implies the assumption that the NLP
> (Natural Language Processing, which often includes NLU and NLG)
> problem *can* be solved by a set of rules.

Yes it does. (BTW, what is NLG? I take it NLU is natural language
understanding). My training and experience tell me language is orderly,
not chaotic. I think those are the only two choices we have: orderly or
chaotic; and a probabilistic/statistical model is not chaotic as
statistics has rules too. I repeat what I posted earlier which is that I
would like to see the detailed presentation of a circumstance in which
humans use words yet the word usage has no rules, ie it is chaotic. I
would like to see it presented well enough that it would be accepted in a
peer reviewed journal (eg one of the phil/psych journals now online). I
think it would be an excellent challenge to the educators, philosophers,
psychologists and linguists who spend life long careers trying to find the
orderliness, ie rules, in word usage. Until I see such a presentation I
will assume that all word usage has rules and I will go one further and
say I assume that the global community of experts could pool its talents
now and SET OUT ALL THE RULES FOR WORD USAGE IN HUMANS.

  This is unlikely to be the
> case.  You can get pretty far with a set of rules (see the Eliza
> program for a very simple example), but it would appear that there is
> a point beyond which rules aren't going to be sufficient.  This is
> where the need for knowledge about the topic of the conversation comes
> in, but the problem goes beyond having a database to access: in order
> to have "human equivalent" language abilities, the computer needs some
> way to comprehend human common sense, emotion, and humor (among other
> things) - all of which are big cha

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Re: [CTRL] As gasoline prices skyrocket, so does value of Gore's oil stock

[Ronald L. Wilson]

Do I remember that there is currently about an 18 cent per gallon federal
tax on gas? (Is that part of the cost build up on which state taxes are
calculated?) The budget surplus is busting at the seams...And wasn't there
supposed to be an end to that last $.043 tax?? RW
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> <<  Vice President Al Gore, who is trying to link George W. Bush
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>  stock in Occidental Petroleum. >>
>
> I just remember that a few months back, I was doing some kind of research
or
> another and stumbled on some talking papers from an Independent Oil
Companies
> Consortium.  One dated in February was advising the Clinton Administration
to
> stop discussing increases in oil production with the OPEC nations, because
> the US oil companies needed there to be less production so the prices
could
> rise and they could make more  money.  At the same time there were papers
> hammering McCain, Gore, and Bradley.  Now that just leaves our friend
Shrub.
> Believe me, anything the oil companies do is for the oil companies, and
the
> Bush family has a lot of connection/influence, not to mention ownership,
with
> oil companies.  Prudy
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[CTRL] VOTE ALERT: Buchanan and Nader Shut Out of Debates

[Bard]

IMPORTANT  VOTE ALERT!
Go to:  http://www.vote.com
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Re: [CTRL] Sponsers of HR4453 Creation of Globo Cop Gestapo

[Bard]

Those Creatures you listed are all 
Communists.
Bard

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  From: 
  John 
  Perna 
  To: mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:@ndmls01.mediaone.net 
  
  Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 4:09 PM
  Subject: Sponsers of HR4453 Creation of 
  Globo Cop Gestapo
  
  H.R.4453 Sponsor: Rep 
  McGovern, James P. (introduced 5/15/2000) 
   
  http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d106:HR04453:@@@L&summ2=m&
  

  COSPONSORS(18), ALPHABETICAL [followed by 
  Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date) 
  
  
  


  Rep 
Abercrombie, Neil - 6/14/2000
  Rep 
Brown, Sherrod - 6/6/2000

  Rep 
Christensen, Donna MC - 5/25/2000
  Rep 
Clay, William (Bill) - 6/14/2000

  Rep 
Cummings, Elijah E. - 6/14/2000
  Rep 
Eshoo, Anna G. - 5/25/2000

  Rep 
Frank, Barney - 6/22/2000
  Rep 
Houghton, Amo - 6/21/2000

  Rep 
Lantos, Tom - 5/23/2000
  Rep 
Lee, Barbara - 6/12/2000

  Rep 
McKinney, Cynthia A. - 6/6/2000
  Rep 
Millender-McDonald, Juanita - 5/25/2000

  Rep 
Morella, Constance A. - 5/15/2000
  Rep 
Nadler, Jerrold - 6/6/2000

  Rep 
Norton, Eleanor Holmes - 6/6/2000
  Rep 
Porter, John Edward - 5/15/2000

  Rep 
Tierney, John F. - 5/23/2000
  Rep 
Wynn, Albert Russell - 
6/12/2000

[CTRL] =?x-unknown?q?_Eli=E1n_Gonz=E1lez_case_reaches_Supreme_Court?=

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Posted at 5:14 p.m.  EDT Monday, June 26, 2000

Elián González case reaches Supreme Court

WASHINGTON -- (AP) -- Elián González's Miami relatives asked the
Supreme Court on Monday to block the little boy's return to Cuba.
Unless the nation's highest court says otherwise, Elián and his
father may leave the United States as early as Wednesday.

A federal appeals court unanimously rejected the Miami relatives'
request for a rehearing Friday, and said emphatically it would
not take up the case again.

The appeals court said its earlier order requiring Elián's
father, Juan Miguel González, to keep the 6-year-old boy in this
country will dissolve at 4 p.m. Wednesday.

Lawyers for the Miami relatives filed a formal appeal with the
full Supreme Court, and asked Justice Anthony M.  Kennedy to keep
Elian in the United States until that formal appeal is acted on.

Kennedy handles emergency matters from Florida for the high
court.

A few weeks delay in the long legal fight over the boy "is a
minimal cost in a case with stakes of such magnitude," Kennedy
was told.

Elián was rescued off the Florida coast on Thanksgiving Day.
His mother and 10 other people drowned after their boat sank en
route from communist Cuba to the United States.

The Immigration and Naturalization Service decided the boy should
be returned to his father, but the Miami relatives who cared for
Elián after his rescue refused to relinquish him.  On April 22,
federal agents seized the boy and reunited him with his father in
the Washington area.

The formal appeal filed Monday said the case's legal issues "boil
down to a single straightforward question: Can the INS deprive an
alien child of his statutory and constitutional right to apply
for asylum without conducting any hearing of any kind -- or even
without interviewing the child himself?"

The appeal said the INS decision in Elián's case violated his
due-process rights.

Kennedy could act on the emergency request by himself but was
more likely to refer it to the full court.

The court was expected to take some action in the case by the
Wednesday deadline.

Lawyers for the Miami relatives suggested that the court require
the Clinton administration to file its response to the appeal by
July 5 -- a schedule that could yield a decision whether to grant
or deny the appeal "no later than the week of July 10."

A federal trial judge in the District of Columbia on Monday threw
out another lawsuit brought by Lázaro González.  The case before
U.S.  District Judge Henry Kennedy had sought to prevent Elián
from leaving the country unless U.S.  officials could certify
that Cuba would not violate the boy's human rights.

The Supreme Court cases are Gonzalez vs.  Reno, 99-2079 and
A-1076.




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[CTRL] "Human Research and Human Rights"

[Mr.Rodriguez]

From: Vera Hassner Sharav
President, CIRCARE:
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An essential ingredient for any oversight agency is independence. A
boost in administrative status does not necessarily confer
independence.
 We are concerned about unreported adverse incidents & widespread abuse
of the dignitary rights of individual subjects --i.e., the right to be
fully informed in writing of the known & potential risks prior to
obtaining informed consent. Those concerns will be allayed when the new
Office of Human Research Protections headed by Dr. Greg Koski
demonstrates to the American public & the research community that those
who violate ethical standards in research involving human beings--no
matter how powerful the institution may be-- will be held accountable &
will be penalized.
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Science
June 16, 2000

CLINICAL TRIALS:
Harvard's Koski to Lead Human Subjects Office

Eliot Marshall

As Congress steps up oversight of human clinical trials, the
Administration is getting a high-level manager of its own to watch
out for the interests of volunteers in U.S.-financed research. As
expected, Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) Donna Shalala
last week named anesthesiologist E. Greg Koski, 50, to run a new
HHS Office for Human Research Protections (Science, 26 May, p.
1315).

One of Koski's first jobs when he takes over in September will be
to conclude more than 170 pending investigations into alleged
infractions of regulations governing human experimentation. Koski
may also be swept into a debate on the adequacy of those regulations.
Last week a bill, H.R. 4605, was introduced by Representatives
Diana DeGette (D-CO), Henry Waxman (D-CA), and John Mica (R-FL)
that would extend HHS's authority over patients in federally funded
studies and certain private studies that are not now subject to
federal monitoring. Arguing for a "comprehensive reform," the
sponsors propose to bring all human research under a single standard,
"independent of setting and funding source." They also would like
to create a "nonprofit entity" to accredit the local Institutional
Review Boards that examine and approve clinical trials.

Koski, an M.D.-Ph.D. associate professor at Harvard Medical School
in Boston, has spent 30 years in the Harvard community, most recently
as director of human research affairs for Partners HealthCare System
Inc., which oversees the Massachusetts General Hospital in Boston
and other Harvard-affiliated hospitals. As chief U.S. protector of
research subjects, Koski will report directly to the assistant
secretary of health, Surgeon General David Satcher. An agency
reorganization that created his job at HHS also created a 12-person
advisory panel--not yet named--that will give outsiders a chance
to drive policy from the back seat.

Koski could not be reached for comment, but scientific leaders say
they welcome him to Washington. Jordan Cohen, president of the
Association of American Medical Colleges, said last week that Koski
"is highly respected within the academic medical community and
brings to the new office a strong track record in the area of human
subject protections." The administration, he added, "is to be
applauded for attracting a person of Dr. Koski's caliber." Cohen
also supports H.R. 4605.

But Vera Hassner Sharav, a leader of one of the patient advocacy
groups that has faulted the government for weak enforcement of
regulations, Citizens for Responsible Care and Research in New York
City, offers a more wary endorsement of HHS's new scheme. Sharav
says she is concerned that a boost in the status of the human
subjects office, formerly headed by Gary Ellis, does not necessarily
confer independence. "The new office," she says, "should be judged
on its actions--on how vigorously and expeditiously it investigates
allegations of research violations."

___

The Washington Post
Tuesday, June 20, 2000

Head of Watchdog Agency Faces Questions

By Rick Weiss and Deborah Nelson
Washington Post Staff Writers
Tuesday, June 20, 2000; A02

The new director of the federal government's lead watchdog agency
for human medical experiments is himself embroiled in an ongoing
investigation by that agency into a gene study that he supervised
in his previous job.

Harvard professor Greg Koski was tapped two weeks ago to lead the
Office for Human Research Protections, the agency the Clinton
administration recently renamed, revamped and relocated to a top
spot in the Department of Health and Human Services.

Until the new appointment, Koski was director of human research
affairs at Partners HealthCare System Inc. in Boston, where he
oversaw the protection of research volunteers in experiments carried
out by a consortium of Harvard-affiliated hospitals.

"Greg Koski is the right person with the right experience at the
right time to take on this challenge," Secretary of Health and
Human Services Donna E. Shalala s

[CTRL] Lee Asks Judge to Suppress Evidence

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

June 26, 2000


Lee Asks Judge to Suppress Evidence

By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS


ALBUQUERQUE, N.M.  -- A scientist charged with breaching security
at the Los Alamos nuclear weapons lab asked a judge Monday to
suppress some evidence and order prosecutors to say what, if any,
foreign nation he tried to aid.

Wen Ho Lee is charged with 59 counts, mostly alleging he
transferred restricted files from secured to unsecure computers
and to computer tapes at Los Alamos National Laboratory.

Federal prosecutor George A.  Stamboulidis told the judge
disclosing a particular foreign nation at this point might limit
the prosecution during trial.

"The defense is not entitled to the government's legal theories,"
Stamboulidis said, adding that Lee might not have decided which
foreign nation he might secure an advantage for at the time the
information was transferred.  To state a particular country now
would "prematurely lock the government into one theory" and
exclude others, he argued.

Defense attorney Mark Holscher said he wasn't asking for specific
evidence, only for the government to say one word -- "PRC (China)
or Taiwan."

"These are not countries that are friendly with each other," he
said.

The prosecution still could amend its case later if it named a
country now, he said.

Holscher said the defense would have to go to whatever country is
alleged to be the beneficiary to interview scientists.  In the
case of China, he said, that would take weeks if not months to
arrange.

"If you are going to say he intended to aid PRC, tell us.  If
it's Taiwan, tell us," Holscher said.

Lee, a 60-year-old native of Taiwan, has been a U.S.  citizen for
about 25 years.

Prosecutors do not allege he committed espionage or passed any
secrets to anybody. To convict, however, prosecutors must prove
he acted with intent to harm the United States or gain advantage
for another nation.

The defense also wants U.S.  District Judge James Parker to
suppress evidence seized with a search warrant that they contend
was too broad. Among items seized from Lee's home, they have
said, were the collected short stories of Guy de Maupassant and
the plays of Tennessee Williams.

Defense attorneys have said they also hope to raise again the
no-bail order that has kept Lee jailed.

Lee was fired last year and arrested in December.  He could spend
life in prison if convicted.  He already has spent more than six
months in jail without bail.  Trial is set Nov.  6.

The case grew out of an investigation into a suspected theft of
U.S. nuclear secrets by China, but prosecutors have said the
allegations against Lee are totally separate from the
investigation into the W-88, the United States' smallest, most
sophisticated nuclear warhead.

Since then, other security lapses have been uncovered at Los
Alamos.

As a forest fire burned toward Los Alamos last month, scientists
discovered two hard drives with secret nuclear weapons
information were missing.  The fire ultimately burned more than
200 homes and nearly 40 temporary lab buildings, forcing the town
and lab to evacuate and delaying the search for the hard drives
by weeks.  They were found June 16 behind a photocopying machine
at the lab.

Last week, two 10-year-old floppy discs were reported missing at
the lab as scientists, criticized in Congress for lax security,
mounted an intensive inventory of such hardware.  The discs were
found a day later, attached to a paper report, and lab spokesman
Jim Danneskiold said they were obsolete and virtually unusable
anyway. Lab secrecy was not compromised, he said.

Danneskiold said the lab was itemizing all classified data in
response to the uproar over the disappearance of the hard drives.

A federal grand jury has been convened in New Mexico to look into
the disappearance of the hard drives, Energy Secretary Bill
Richardson told senators.




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[CTRL] GORE GROWS RICH OFF OIL IN MASSIVE SCANDAL (fwd)

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

GORE GROWS RICH OFF OIL IN MASSIVE UNRIVALED CORRUPTION

The Washington Times
www.washtimes.com

http://asp.washtimes.com/printarticle.asp?action=print&ArticleID=default-200062622040


Sale of federal oil field boosts Gore fortune
By Bill Sammon

THE WASHINGTON TIMES

Published 6/26/00


 Vice President Al Gore's push to privatize a federal oil
field added tens of thousands of dollars to the value of oil
stock owned by the Gore family, which has been further enriched
by skyrocketing gasoline prices.

 Shares of Occidental Petroleum jumped 10 percent after the
company purchased the Elk Hills oil field in California from the
federal government in 1998. Mr. Gore, whose family owns at least
$500,000 in Occidental stock, recommended the sale as part of his
"reinventing government" reform package.

 The sale, which constituted the largest privatization of
federal land in U.S. history, transformed Occidental from a
lackluster financial performer into a dynamic, profit-spewing,
oil giant. Having instantly tripled its U.S. oil reserves, the
company began pumping out vast sums of crude at low cost.

 As the months went by, Occidental was able to sell the oil,
which ends up at gasoline retail outlets like Union 76, for more
profit. Rising oil prices have significantly improved
Occidental's bottom line, said analyst Christopher Stavros of
Paine Webber.

 This year, the company posted first quarter revenues of $2.5
billion, or 87 percent higher than a year earlier. That's a
bigger increase than at nine of 10 other oil companies listed in
a survey that Mr. Gore cited last week as evidence of price
gouging.

 The rise in Occidental oil prices, coupled with the
acquisition of the Elk Hills field, has paid handsome dividends
for the Gore family.

 The vice president recently updated his financial disclosure
form to put the value of his family's Occidental stock at between
$500,000 and $1 million. Prior to the Elk Hills sale and gasoline
price spike, Mr. Gore had listed the value of the stock at
between $250,000 and $500,000.

 Gore aides insist the vice president's push to sell Elk
Hills does not constitute a conflict of interest. They point out
the family's Occidental shares were originally owned by Mr.
Gore's father, who died in 1998, leaving the stock in an estate
for which the vice president serves as executor.

 Although Mr. Gore continues to list the stock on his
financial disclosure forms, aides said the shares are in a trust
for the vice president's mother, Pauline.

 "He doesn't own stock because he's trying to avoid conflicts
of interest," said Gore spokesman Doug Hattaway. "He's the
executor of the estate, but he's not the trustee of the trust.
It's a separate thing."

 Still, Mr. Gore's recommendation to privatize Elk Hills
ended up enriching his mother, who is expected to eventually
bequeath the stock to the vice president, her sole heir.

 Last week, Mr. Gore began a concerted effort to blame
skyrocketing gasoline prices not only on "big oil," but also on
Texas Gov. George W. Bush. Gore aides have emphasized that Mr.
Bush once ran several oil-exploration firms and has accepted more
campaign contributions from oil companies than the vice
president.

 The Texas governor has dismissed the attacks as an attempt
to divert attention away from Mr. Gore's energy and environmental
policies, which have driven up gasoline prices. Political
analysts say the spiraling gas prices could imperil Mr. Gore's
presidential bid because they are highest in the Midwest, which
he must carry in order to win the White House.

 The political and financial fortunes of the Gore family were
established largely with oil money from Occidental's founder,
Armand Hammer. Part capitalist and part Communist, Mr. Hammer
became the elder Gore's patron more than half a century ago,
showering him with riches and nurturing his political career
through the House and Senate.

 The elder Gore enthusiastically returned the favors. In the
early 1960s, Sen. Gore took to the Senate floor to defend Mr.
Hammer against FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover, who wanted to
investigate Mr. Hammer's Soviet ties.

 In 1965, the elder Gore helped Mr. Hammer obtain a visa to
Libya, where he opened oil fields that turned Occidental into a
multinational powerhouse.

 When the elder Mr. Gore lost his re-election bid in 1970,
Mr. Hammer installed him as head of an Occidental subsidiary and
gave him a $500,000 annual salary. The man who had begun his
career as a struggling schoolteacher in rural Tennessee ended it
as a millionaire oil tycoon.

 The younger Gore also benefited from Mr. Hammer's
generosity. He was paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in
annual payments of $20,000 for mineral rights to a parcel of land
near the family's homestead in Tennessee that Occidental never
bothered mining.

 When the younger Gore first ran for president in 1988, Mr.
Hammer promised former Sen. Paul Simon "any Cabine

[CTRL] More Funding for FBI Snooping

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

More Funding for FBI Snooping

By Declan McCullagh

http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,37183,00.html

3:00 a.m. Jun. 24, 2000 PDT


 WASHINGTON -- Congress is poised to give the FBI more money for
wiretapping than even its director, Louis Freeh, had hoped for.

The proposed 2001 budget approved by a House panel doles out an
unprecedented $282 million to rewire U.S. telephone networks to
make them readily snoopable, edging closer to the
half-billion-dollar estimated price tag for the project.  That's
$70 million more than the FBI and the Clinton administration had
requested. The 1994 Communications Assistance for Law Enforcement
Act requires telephone companies to modify their networks so
police can eavesdrop when necessary -- and the feds pay for the
changes.

The reason for Congress's unexpected largesse? "The
(appropriations) committee believes that implementation of CALEA
is long overdue. The committee notes that Congress expected CALEA
implementation to be achieved over two years ago," the committee
report says. "However, due to disagreements between law
enforcement and industry, that deadline was not met. As a result,
law enforcement's ability to effectively counter threats of
terrorism, drug trafficking, and other serious crimes has been
seriously eroded."

Fortunately -- at least from Congress' perspective -- industry
and law enforcement cut a deal, and there should be no further
delays.

A proposal to decrease the CALEA cash by $28 million and spend it
instead on lobster fisheries in the Long Island Sound (no,
really) was defeated in committee, 28-24.

The committee did not agree with the White House that half of
that money should be funneled through the Defense Department for
"national security" reasons, as Wired News reported in February.
All of it will go to the Justice Department instead.

The appropriations measure, part of the Commerce, Justice, and
State spending bill, is currently on the House floor.

---

More cash to fight MS: Microsoft, look out.

The Justice Department's antitrust division, busy pulling long
hours in its attempt to break up the world's largest software
company, is about to get more money.

The same spending bill hands the division $113.3 million for the
fiscal year beginning in October 2000. That's $3.3 million above
the current year appropriation, although more than $20.7 million
below the Clinton administration's request.

Microsoft has lobbied to reduce the overall antitrust division
budget.

A motion to boost the DOJ antitrust and FTC -- which shares that
responsibility -- budgets by a total of $51 million was defeated
in committee by a 26-19 vote.

The spending bill is still open to amendments on the House floor.
The 2001 fiscal year begins October 2000.


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[CTRL] NYP: MONICA LINK IN FIRST LADY'S LATEST FUND-RAISER

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

New York Post-June 26, 2000

MONICA LINK IN FIRST LADY'S LATEST FUND-RAISER

By GREGG BIRNBAUM


Hillary Rodham Clinton is set to attend a Senate campaign
fund-raiser at the home of the wealthy New Yorker who boosted
Monica Lewinsky for her internship at the White House, The Post
has learned.

In one of the more bizarre happenings on the campaign trail,
Clinton is slated to be the star attraction at the big-money
event Friday to be hosted by retired insurance tycoon Walter
Kaye.

Kaye - a megadonor to the Democratic Party and one-time frequent
guest of the Clintons - is the influential fat-cat who
recommended Monica for her White House internship in 1995.

Clinton campaign spokesman Howard Wolfson had no comment on the
turn of events.

Kaye, 80, is hosting the luncheon at his Park Avenue home to
raise money for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee.

Funds collected by the group - considered soft money because
there is no limit on the size of the donations - can be used to
help Clinton and other Democratic candidates around the country.

Kaye could not be reached for comment.

Known in philanthropic circles as a supporter of liberal and
Jewish causes, Kaye has given thousands to the Democratic Party
over the years, contributed to the Clintons' legal defense fund
and given the first family pricey gifts.

Hillary Clinton was the guest of honor at a $1,000-a-ticket
fund-raiser Kaye and his wife, Selma, held in 1997 - pre-Sexgate
- for then-mayoral candidate Ruth Messinger.

Kaye's largesse was well-rewarded with invitations to White House
huddles in Hillary Clinton's second-floor suite of offices and
exclusive birthday parties for the president and Chelsea Clinton.

But the Kayes found themselves suddenly out of favor when Kaye -
a friend of Lewinsky's mother, Marcia Lewis - was dragged into
the Sexgate scandal.

The report on the Oval Office scandal by former Independent
Counsel Ken Starr quoted Kaye as saying that Monica was an
"aggressive young lady" who asked him to get her a permanent job
at the White House.

Monica also repeatedly invoked "Uncle Walter" in her futile
search for better White House jobs and rescue from the Pentagon,
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[CTRL] A Gore scandal guide for dummies

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

salon.com
June 24, 2000

A Gore scandal guide for dummies

>From the Buddhist nuns to the "iced tea defense"

By Anthony York June 24, 2000 |


The biggest challenge for Vice President Al Gore this campaign
season will not be stepping out of Bill Clinton's shadow, but
shedding the image of scandal that surrounds the Clinton-Gore
administration.  Those efforts were hampered again this week,
when Sen.  Arlen Specter, R-Penn., revealed that top officials
within the Justice Department are urging Attorney General Janet
Reno again to appoint an independent counsel to investigate the
possibility that Gore misled DOJ officials about his fundraising
activities in 1996.

Now, the investigation would not be about the fundraising, only
about the possible coverup of his fundraising.  Gore released the
entire transcript of his April Q-and-A session with investigators
Friday, which included a denial about the infamous Buddhist
temple fundraiser in 1996.

"I sure as hell don't recall having -- I sure as hell did not
have any conversations with anyone saying this is a fundraising
event," Gore testified.

Gore was confident that the transcript would ultimately exonerate
him. "I think the truth is my friend in this," Gore told
reporters Friday. "I have full confidence in the judgment of the
American people ...  I want people to judge for themselves."

In the meantime, all eyes are on Janet Reno.  Congress allowed
the independent counsel law to expire last year, leaving the
decision to appoint squarely in Reno's lap.  So once again, in
the closing months of her tenure, it falls to the attorney
general to make a key decision that could affect the political
career of people in the White House who appointed her.

But who can keep track of all these scandals?  From the Buddhist
temple to Johnny Huang to Charlie Trie and "no controlling legal
authority," the last four years are a tangled mess of alleged
wrongdoings that hover over this administration.  What follows
below is a guideline to the scandals that have most directly
affected Gore over the last four years, a Gore scandal guide for
dummies:

*April 1996 Gore attends an event at the Hsi Lai Buddhist Temple
in Los Angeles that nets the Democratic National Committee close
to $65,000 from donors.  In September 1997, a trio of Buddhist
nuns from the temple admit in Senate testimony that the temple
illegally reimbursed guests for their donations.  Gore later
denies knowing the gathering at the temple was a fundraiser,
describing the event as "community outreach."

*March 1997 Gore is criticized for making fundraising calls from
his White House office, and passing the bill on to taxpayers.
Gore said he was advised before making the White House calls that
there was nothing wrong with making the calls and that there was
"no controlling legal authority" governing his actions.

*September 1997 DOJ announces inquiry into fundraising practices
of the Clinton-Gore reelection campaign, including charges that
Gore aides illegally diverted soft money into the Clinton-Gore
reelection effort and that Gore made illegal fundraising calls
from the White House.  This time, the focus on Gore's phone calls
centers on the fact that money raised from his office went into
hard-money accounts, which would be illegal, as opposed to
soft-money contributions to the DNC.

*November 1997 Gore is interviewed by FBI investigators about a
1995 fundraising meeting at the White House.

*December 1997 Reno declines to name an independent counsel to
investigate whether Gore knew he was raising hard money while
making the calls from the White House.

*June 1998 Gore meets with the FBI again.

*July 1998 Charles LaBella, the outgoing chief prosecutor of the
Justice Department's campaign finance task force, delivers a
report to Reno urging her to appoint an independent counsel.

*August 1998 Gore again meets with FBI investigators about the
1995 fundraising meeting.  When presented with documents that
appear to contradict his earlier assertion that he was not a part
of any fundraising discussions at that meeting, Gore offers what
comes to be known as the "iced tea defense": "The Vice President
also observed that he drank a lot of iced tea during the
meetings, which could have necessitated a restroom break," which
would have caused him to miss the discussions about fundraising,
according to the FBI report.

Meanwhile, FBI director Louis Freeh warns Reno that she faces an
"irrevocable political conflict of interest" in investigating the
administration's fundraising improprieties, and urges the
attorney general to appoint an independent counsel.  Two weeks
later Reno reopens her inquiry into possible campaign finance law
violations by the vice president to look into evidence that some
Gore aides knowingly and illegally planned to divert Democratic
Party donations -- soft money -- to the Clinton-Gore reelection
effort.

*November 1998 Reno says she would not seek a special prosecutor
to investigate Gore on charge

[CTRL] American Airlines and Frequent Fliers to Settle Decade-long Lawsuit

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Wall Street Journal
June 26, 2000

High Flyers


If you are a long-time American Airlines' frequent flier and
you've been reading the papers, you might think you've fallen
into a bit of money.  Approximately five million AAdvantage
members stand to benefit from American's decision to settle a
decade-long lawsuit that accused the company of having reduced
the value of its frequent flier miles by changing the rules of
the program.

So how much do all you poor, deceived American passengers stand
to gain here?  One hint: Not nearly as much as the trial lawyers
who cooked up the lawsuit.

Under the terms of the proposed settlement, the estimated five
million affected AAdvantage members eligible will receive
certificates entitling them to dollar discounts of $25 to $75 (or
about 1,000 to 5,000 in free miles).  Which brings us to the
perverse economics at play here.  Even a settlement in the tens
of millions doesn't amount to much for the alleged "victims" once
you divvy it up among the millions who can claim it.  But the $25
million negotiated in legal fees that will be split among just
three law firms -- Marks, Marks and Kaplan; Much, Shelist, Freed,
Denenberg, Ament & Rubenstein, P.C.; and Chimicles & Tikellis --
is more than enough incentive to explain how a lawsuit such as
this could be kept going for 12 years.

The lion's share to the lawyers also explains other lawsuits
against the airline industry in recent years.  Delta settled a
frequent flier dispute last year, again with scant benefit to
consumers.  United and US Air have successfully fought off a
number of such suits.

Clearly the system is broken when lawyers troll the high seas of
commerce like pirates searching out the next hapless ship to be
attacked and looted. For what is happening to American and the
other airlines is what is happening to any large U.S.  company
fool enough to make money.

Though no government agency keeps figures on it, a 1999
Federalist Society report based on a survey of Fortune 500
companies reckoned that the number of such suits rose by
approximately 338% in federal courts -- and by more than 1,000%
in state courts -- in the decade between 1988 and 1998.

In recent years trial lawyers have made game of industries
ranging from paint manufacturers to the makers of Pokemon cards
(the charge there: collecting the cards is equivalent to
gambling).

But if the economic incentives are all too clear here, so are the
political ones. Trial lawyers represent one of the most powerful
constituencies in today's Washington.  Unlike most industries,
however, they do not play both sides of the field.  Theirs is an
almost exclusively Democratic enterprise.  Though the total
amount of campaign money represented by the trial lawyer industry
is difficult to estimate simply because many do not list their
occupation when making contributions, the American Tort Reform
Foundation has tracked millions of dollars flowing from trial
lawyers to the Democratic party -- with plenty now going to the
Vice President.

There's a logic here as well.

In his own campaign Gov.  George Bush advocates tougher sanctions
for meritless lawsuits, curbs on forum shopping and limits to the
fees private lawyers can charge when representing governments.
They are some of the same reforms he helped put through in his
own state, and the trial lawyers who fought him every step of the
way in Texas are now fighting hard against his campaign for the
presidency.  They know that this is a prospect that just might
send the class-action cash cow to the slaughterhouse.  Thus far
Mr.  Gore has not claimed credit for inventing the class-action
lawsuit. But clearly the class-action crowd that brought us suits
like the one against American Airlines are betting they'll need a
President Gore in the White House lest they get their wings
clipped.


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[CTRL] Reno Stonewall: Third Time a Charm?

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

June 26, 2000

Reno Stonewall: Third Time a Charm?

By ROBERT L.  BARTLEY


The striking thing about the latest recommendation of an
independent investigation of Al Gore and his Buddhist Temple
hijinks is how quickly it leaked.  Capitol Hill sources report
that the attorney general -- "visibly perturbed over the
premature disclosure," as the AP described her at her weekly
briefing Friday -- is ordering an internal investigation of the
leak.

So the indomitable Ms.  Reno will strap a polygraph around Robert
J.  Conrad Jr., who brought her the same bad news the third time
around as the latest head of her own campaign finance
investigation.  The leak aside, Mr.  Conrad's recommendation was
a show of courage, given the fate of the two previous messengers.
His predecessor, Charles La Bella, was pretty much hounded out of
the department.  FBI Director Louis Freeh cannot be fired, but
has had to endure a lot of badmouthing and petty harassment.

Rather than pinpointing a culprit, Ms.  Reno is likely to learn
that the final year of an administration is when the bureaucrats
you've been sitting on start to leak.  I saw it first hand during
the Ford administration, when GOP national security officials
upset with détente blew up the Vladivostok summit agreement.
Some Ford administration insiders still blame my articles for
defeat, but out of it eventually came Ronald Reagan and a tougher
foreign policy.

Ms.  Reno has manifestly been sitting on the Justice Department
to stop the campaign finance investigation, with the sole crutch
of Lee Radek of the Public Integrity Section.  It turns out that
even Robert Litt, whom our sources had identified as a political
obstacle, came to agree with the Freeh-La Bella-Conrad
conclusion.  We will start to learn whether Ms.  Reno can
stonewall one more time when she appears before Sen.  Arlen
Specter, who said he would summon her before his Judiciary
subcommittee tomorrow.  So far she has been able to face down
congressional tormentors, relying on the immunity of femininity
and illness, at one point fainting in church.

Both she and Congress, too, were able to hide behind the
independent counsel law, which relieved them of responsibility
while setting up an investigator the president was free to attack
in the political arena. Editorially this newspaper opposed the
law, pointing out that many independent investigations -- Teapot
Dome, Watergate and even the initial Whitewater appointment of
Robert Fiske -- were chartered without it. Historically, the way
the system worked was that Congress, the press and the public
created enough of a political furor to force appointment of an
independent investigator.  These investigators were harder to
attack politically, because the president and attorney general
did have the de jure power to fire them -- but at a political
price, as Richard Nixon discovered with the Saturday Night
Massacre.

We are now back at square one and will see whether Sen.
Specter, scarcely a GOP hatchetman, and the rest step up to their
responsibility of oversight.  Their principal power is to make
sure the issue does not go away between now and November. Mr.
Gore affects Clintonesque chutzpah in complaining that the
twice-delayed investigation now comes up only four months before
an election.  Ms.  Reno laughably says she doesn't want "to
interfere with the democratic process."

That is to say, leaking the facts to voters is the bureaucracy's
ultimate defense of the rule of law.  Mr.  Gore has played a
"limited, modified hangout," releasing the transcripts of Mr.
Conrad's examination.  The vice president repeatedly asserted
that at the Buddhist Temple he was the only person in the room
who didn't understand it was a fundraiser.  He took a similar
position on presidential coffees.  The Congress can make sure he
and surrogates such as Ms.  Reno repeat this constantly for the
next four months.  The voters can decide on its credibility.

More may also happen.  Weigh the potential effect if, say, Mr.
Conrad and his team resigned in protest, à la Elliot Richardson
that Saturday night.  It's entirely conceivable that Clinton &
Gore might decide that the path between here and November would
be smoother with an independent investigation than without.

If Ms.  Reno faces down political options, Congress also has
legal ones. For starters, the Constitution provides for
impeachment not only for presidents but for "all civil Officers
of the United States." Society did not seem to enjoy its recent
education in this process, but second thoughts have started to
set in.  Also, Congressman Dan Burton, rough and ready chairman
of the Government Reform and Oversight Committee, made a point in
conjunction with his release of the Freeh and La Bella memos.
"After this election, assuming we get a new attorney general, I
think I will be sending criminal referrals."

Chairman Burton singled out the attorney general; in refusing to
appoint a counsel when the law demanded it, "she broke the law
and

[CTRL] Citing Public Nuisance, New York State to Sue Gun Makers

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

June 26, 2000


Citing Public Nuisance, New York Will Be First State to Sue Gun
Makers

By RICHARD PÉREZ-PEÑA


ALBANY, June 25 -- Attorney General Eliot L. Spitzer plans to
file suit Monday against a raft of firearms makers and
wholesalers, making New York the first state to take the industry
to court, charging that it is partly responsible for the carnage
from guns.

Mr. Spitzer's suit marks a significant escalation of the legal
campaign waged against the industry until now by 32 cities and
counties around the country, including, most recently, New York
City, which filed its own suit last week.  New York State is
taking a different legal approach than the local governments,
exploiting an advantage that it has under state law -- one that
Mr. Spitzer said might be used to force the industry to change
its practices nationwide.  The suit is to be filed under the
state's public-nuisance law, rather than as a negligence claim.

Experts say that the New York State suit is probably stronger
legally than those filed by local governments and that the state
brings to bear more resources and greater political and symbolic
weight.

The suit follows more than a year of talks aimed at getting gun
makers to adopt a code of conduct, changing the way they
manufacture and distribute weapons in the hope of reducing the
flow of them to criminals.

The talks were initiated by Mr. Spitzer and later taken over by
the federal housing secretary, Andrew M. Cuomo, each explicitly
wielding the threat of a lawsuit to coerce the gun industry to
the bargaining table.

In March, the nation's largest handgun maker, Smith & Wesson,
agreed to the code of conduct, and in return, it has been dropped
from the local government lawsuits and it will be left out of Mr.
Spitzer's suit.  But Smith & Wesson has backed away somewhat from
the agreement, has come under heavy pressure from the rest of the
industry to abrogate it entirely, and is the target of a boycott
organized by the National Rifle Association.

The rest of the industry has held fast.  In April, several of the
largest firearms companies sued New York State, Connecticut and
16 local governments over their campaign to have law enforcement
agencies buy weapons only from manufacturers that have accepted
the code of conduct -- for now, a list of one, Smith & Wesson. In
May, the industry broke off talks intended to settle the local
government suits and avert state and federal government legal
actions.

"Only at the point where it was clear that negotiation with the
remaining members of the industry was pointless did I determine
that litigation was the appropriate mechanism," Mr. Spitzer said
in an interview.  "The choice became rather clear when they sued
us."

"I am hoping that some other states will join, and I have had
discussions with some other states," he added, though he would
not name those states.

Calls today to the National Shooting Sports Foundation, the main
gun industry trade group; to its president at his home; to the
National Rifle Association; and to some individual gun makers
were not returned.

The proposed code of conduct includes investments in "smart gun"
technology that allows only the legal buyer of a gun to fire it,
the inclusion of trigger locks with guns, a ban on sales to
wholesalers that sell a disproportionate number of the guns used
in crimes, and reduced production of the guns that are most
popular with criminals, usually because they are cheap or easily
concealed.

When Mr. Cuomo took over talks with the gun industry that had
been initiated and headed by Mr. Spitzer, it led to tension
between New York's two most prominent ambitious young Democrats.
But state and federal officials agree that the talks need a jolt,
and in a sign of their solidarity, aides to Mr. Spitzer said Mr.
Cuomo, who is contemplating a bid for governor in 2002, may
attend the attorney general's announcement of the suit Monday.

Mr. Spitzer has ruled out running in the near future for any
office but the one he holds.  But his lawsuit against the
industry is likely to bolster his political standing because it
puts him among the national leaders in the campaign for gun
control, an enormously popular cause in New York.

Just last week, Republicans in the State Legislature, pressured
by Democrats and by their fellow Republican, Gov. George E.
Pataki, and by public opinion polls, agreed to the widest-ranging
package of gun control laws in the country.

Most of the local government suits -- some of which have already
been dismissed -- have claimed negligence by gun makers, which
can be difficult to establish because it requires a showing that
the defendants had a legal duty regarding the eventual use of the
guns and that they violated that duty.  Some of those suits have
also charged conspiracies among the firearms companies, which are
even harder to prove.  Unlike Mr. Spitzer's suit, many of them
are seeking monetary damages as well.

Mr. Spitzer's suit, to be filed in State Supreme Court in

[CTRL] Gore sees Bush's hand behind fund-raising leak

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

From:

http://news.excite.com/news/r/000625/15/campaign-gore

Gore sees Bush's hand behind fund-raising leak


Updated 3:29 PM ET June 25, 2000
By Alexander Ferguson

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Supporters of presidential hopeful Al Gore
hit back Sunday at allegations of illegal fund-raising that have
hurt their candidate, saying George W. Bush's campaign may have
orchestrated a damaging leak.

Appearing on television talk shows, Gore's supporters said news
that a Justice Department official had recommended a special
counsel investigate whether Gore had lied under oath in an April
18 interview was timed for maximum political damage.

"We still have yet to hear from the Bush campaign -- whether or
not they were involved in moving out this story," said the vice
president's adviser and former chief of staff Ron Klain.

"It's a serious question I think they need to answer," he told
CNN's "Late Edition" show.

Republican Sen. Arlen Specter disclosed Thursday that Robert
Conrad, who leads the Justice Department's campaign finance task
force, had recommended to U.S. Attorney Janet Reno that the
truthfulness of Gore's answers be probed by someone outside the
department.

Conrad's leaked recommendation could not have come at a worse
time for Gore, who is trailing Bush in public opinion polls and
has struggled to get his presidential campaign on track.

Many of the questions in the April interview with a Justice
Department prosecutor covered the campaign event that Gore
attended at a Buddhist temple in California four years ago. The
event raised more than $65,000 in illegal donations for the
Democratic Party, but Gore has said he did not know it was a
fund-raiser.

"I'd like them (the Bush campaign) to come forward and say that
when Senator Specter got this information, they didn't work with
him on the release of it, they didn't coordinate the timing of
it," Klain said.

Republican presidential candidate Bush last week quickly seized
on the disclosure to press one of his biggest campaign themes --
that Gore was fatally smeared by the scandals of the Clinton
administration.

In an attempt to contain the scandal, Gore released on Friday a
sworn interview he gave the Justice Department in which he denied
knowingly taking part in the illegal fund-raising event.

But supporters of Gore, the presumptive Democratic nominee for
president in the Nov. 7 election, conceded that the latest
revelation could damage their candidate.

"Clearly having this debate while the vice president is trying to
emphasize the prosperity of the country and where he wants to
take the nation is not helpful," said New Jersey Democrat Sen.
Robert Torricelli.

"NOT FAIR"

Speaking on CBS' "Face the Nation," he condemned the way the news
emerged last week, saying it was a politically motivated leak
that was "not fair to the vice president and not right in our
electoral system".

But Specter, while declining to disclose how he got the
information of Conrad's recommendation for a special counsel
probe, denied he was motivated politically in releasing it.

The Pennsylvania Republican told ABC's "This Week with Sam
Donaldson and Cokie Roberts" he may disclose how he got the
information at future hearings on the scandal at which he hoped
to have testimony from FBI Director James Freeh among others.

The scandal surrounding Gore's 1996 appearance at the Buddhist
temple has haunted him for the last four years and previous
recommendations to hold an independent investigation have been
turned down by Reno.

Charles LaBella, himself a former leader of the Justice
Department's campaign finance task force and who believed an
independent counsel was the best solution, predicted that Reno
would again turn the recommendation down.

"I don't see her analysis changing," LaBella told CNN's "Late
Edition". "I think she's going to focus on materiality, she's
going to focus on motive and make the same conclusion that she
made before."

LaBella said the leak of the information could only have come
from within the Justice Department.

"Somebody obviously in the Department of Justice at a high level
for some reason decided that this wasn't being fairly handled,"
he said.



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[CTRL] "Genomics Resources; Correction of URL's"

[Mr.Rodriguez]

The correct URL's: http://www.genomicsnews.com/public/genresou.cfm

The "Morethanconquerors" (MCF) URL's are not accessible TODAY.

Thanks.


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[CTRL] "The Human Genome Project" (Today, June 26, 2000)

[Mr.Rodriguez]

ETHICS

http://www.foxnews.com/
http://www.foxnews.com/science/062600/geneethics.sml (Should you Fear the
Genetic Revolution?) I think so...
http://www.cnn.com/
http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/06/26/human.genome.04/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2000/HEALTH/03/21/ethics.matters/

[...and...]

http://http://www.genomicsnews.com/public/genresou.cfm ("Genomics Resources")
http://genomics.phrma.org/today/index.html ("Genomics Today")
http://genomics.phrma.org/ (GENOMICS: A GLOBAL RESOURCE)
--

[NOTE: As a survivor of a nonconsensual and classified experimentation, all I
can say is that people should think about the real possibility of militarizing
this project. That simply means that if becomes a top secret issue (somehow or
even some part of it, we won't ever know about the possible atrocities
committed in the name of national security.)

The Non-Lethal Weapons's Project -( discussed at Los Alamos Lab; Hopkins-
1993) began with good intentions; sticky foams, etc. The private sector can do
almost everything away from the government and prosecution. And, the
military/intelligence communities go well above the three branches of the
government. That brings out the possibility of these sectors involved in a
dispute and run to get the patents they want [for ethical and unethical
projects] to develop further research into possible dark and darker areas
(sub-projects) most of us won't ever agree with. Please remember, you're
allowed to read what is not classified. The unclassified, is not what really
matters.

I never thought I was going to be selected for a research (terminal
experiment) that "doesn't exist." If you really want to read unclassified
patents and unbelieavable technologies, buy Dr. Nick Begich's book "Earth
Rising." (www.earthpulse.com/)

Medical and human rights ethics are not respected anymore when terrorists and
bureaucratic sectors have access of the patents and technology they can't
possibly have.But money can make almost everything happen. Let's wait some
time to get the already expected ID cards with your genes and codes showing
who you are. Nothing new if you remember who begun sponsoring "the Conference
on Race Betterment" during 1914-1917. Wasn't Hitler. They opened their doors
to the Third Reich; and the Nuremberg prosecutors couldn't believe the US
tolerated "Operation Paperclip."

The project and objective seem to be fantastic. Farewell to what remains of
democracy and human privacy. New World Order. The Fourth Reich seems to have
begun.

[If somebody is "listening" and/or watching carefully, take a look at the last
CTRL archives. Somebody doesn't allow me to open the files. Are they
"updated"?} Thank you. "Eternal vigilance is the price for freedom"...

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[CTRL] Fw: [sn-vesti 7923] Fr. Sava: A STATEMENT OF THE WEEK

[Mrs. Jela Jovanovic, Secretary General]

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>>Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 12:41:36 +0200
>>Subject: A STATEMENT OF THE WEEK
>>
>>Dr Bernard Kouchner, from the statement in EU Parliament in Brussels
>>June 24, 2000
>>
>>"I know there is organized crime in Kosovo, I know there is prostitution
>>because it is there in the entire world, but I have been living in
>>Kosovo for a year now and I haven't seen a prostitute, whereas I know
>>where they are in Paris,"
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[CTRL] Bill Maher Unbound at Democratic Fund-Raiser

[MICHAEL SPITZER]

Bill Maher Unbound at Democratic Fund-Raiser

By Steve Holland

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Democratic fund-raisers featuring
President Clinton are typically polite affairs with plenty of
criticism of Republicans but not usually below-the-belt attacks.

Then along came comedian Bill Maher of ABC's ``Politically
Incorrect'' show.

Republican George W. Bush (news - web sites), Maher said on
Saturday night, was ``drunk until he was 40.''

``This guy is not that bright. I asked him recently, 'Have you
ever had an SUV?' And he said, 'No, but it's a good idea to get
tested.'''

All this was by way of raising $75,000 for the Democratic
National Committee in one of 10 money-raising events Clinton is
attending in three days to bring in about $4 million.

The last three are on Saturday: an event bringing in $1.5 million
for the Democratic convention in Los Angeles in August, and two
to raise $550,000 to help the re-election campaign of California
Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein and other Democrats.

Maher usually dishes it out to all sides in his comedy routine,
but on Saturday night, as the headline act for a DNC reception,
he gave high praise to Clinton and blasted Republicans for
pursuing various scandals against him and his wife, Hillary.

``History will show itself to be grateful for the effort and the
fortitude and, I hope, mindful of the sacrifices that he has
made,'' Maher said.

``I know politics is rough for everybody's who's in it, but this
man has taken more crap and been more gracious about it than
anybody who has nuclear weapons should ever be asked to,'' he
said.

``I mean, we know they're jealous of him. I like him and I'm
jealous of him. But you know, you can imagine what it's like for
some pencil-necked freshman Republican geek from East Nowhere?''
Maher asked.

Clinton, he said, ``had the strength to fight the battles that
this country needed to have fought'' with one hand while he
''beat off the harpies who hated him succeeding with the other.''
The crowd roared its approval.

Actress Viveca Fox followed Maher. ``Gosh, I don't know how to
follow that one up,'' she said before giving a straightforward
introduction of Clinton.

The president, who has spent a lot of time urging Democrats to
keep the campaign positive, obviously loved it.

``I never thought I'd live to hear Bill Maher say those things,''
Clinton said. ``And he said it in front of the press, which means
he'll have to dump on me twice as hard next week. But it'll be
worth it. I love it. Thank you, Bill.''

Then it was on to a DNC fund-raising dinner at the palatial
Hollywood Hills estate of record producer and songwriter Kenneth
``Babyface'' Edmonds, featuring guests like boxing champ Evander
Holyfield, entertainer Lionel Ritchie, pro quarterback Rodney
Peete and his actress wife, Holly Robinson Peete.

With Vice President Al Gore trailing Bush in the polls, a main
message of Clinton's was to ignore the polls at this point in the
presidential race.

``We can't pay any attention to polls or anything else,'' he
said, urging loyalists to ``get up and saddle up and fight'' for
their children's future. ``If we do, we win,'' he added.




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[CTRL] Announcing: 'alt.messianic.yeshua'

[Yardbird]

: Shalom!

: I would like to announce the creation of a new newsgroup.

:alt.messianic.yeshua

: The purpose of this newsgroup is to provide a peaceful environment to
: discuss the Hebrew roots of the Messiah.  If it is not already listed on
: your server, then please request it from your ISP.

: Thank you very much, and God bless you!
: Glen

: ===

: This is the information which will allow your ISP to expedite the
: addition of the newsgroup:

: Subject: cmsg newgroup alt.messianic.yeshua
: Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 02:56:28 GMT
: Xref: news.isc.org control.newgroup:276743

: ===

: Below is the charter for the new group:

: For your newsgroups file:
: alt.messianic.yeshua   Messianic forum for believers in Yeshua

: CHARTER:

: The purpose of this newsgroup is to allow Messianic Jews, Messianic
: Hebrews, Hebrew Christians, and regular Christians to discuss Messiah
: Yeshua (Jesus Christ).  This forum is as an outgrowth of the existing
: and prolific 'alt.messianic' and is provided in order to establish a
: discussion forum for those who believe Yeshua is the Messiah, and wish
: to discuss the Messiah in a friendly and non-combative environment.

: JUSTIFICATION:

: Currently, the newsgroup 'alt.messianic' is very prolific; and is the
: nucleus of very heated and intense debate.  There are precisely two
: sides to the Messianic debate, and they are irretrievably
: irreconsilable.  Both the Orthodox Jewish community and the Messianic
: Jewish community would like to engage in peaceful discussion concerning
: the Messiah of thier faith, but such discussion is currently impossible
: as long as both communities are constrained to the single newsgroup.

: There are now heartfelt cries from both sides of the dispute that the
: other side should leave, permitting the remaining party to discuss thier
: views in peace.  It is my belief that the only way to allow both of
: these communities to discuss thier views in peace is to provide a forum
: for each of them to do so.

: Thus the proposed newsgroup 'alt.messianic.yeshua' will allow the
: Messianic Jews to discuss thier Messianic beliefs freely and openly
: without having to bear the combative stress of defending thier core
: values against those who believe that Messiah Yeshua was a decietful
: imposter bent on destroying thier faith.  This newsgroup is very
: necessary because there currently is no newsgroup anywhere on usenet
: where Messianic Jews can discuss the Messiah in a friendly environment.

: The current 'alt.messianic' newsgroup which will be the source of most
: of the initial posters to 'alt.messianic.yeshua' currently logs over 200
: messages a day.  Demand for this newsgroup is sufficient to generate
: user propigation requests amongst thier various ISP's, and the user pool
: should quickly extend outwards to such groups as
: 'alt.religion.christian' and others, due to community usage.

: INTEREST ANALYSIS:

: A DejaNews search for:
: ( messiah | messianic ) & (Yeshua | ( Jesus & ( Jew | Jewish | Judah )))

:  1 January 2000 - 14 June 2000 ~ returned 22000 matches / 6.5 months
: 14 May 2000 - 14 June 2000 ~ returned 18000 matches / 1 month
: 7 June 2000 - 14 June 2000 ~ returned 4900 matches  / 1 week
:12 June 2000 - 14 June 2000 ~ returned 253 match / 2 day

: --
:all for the glory of God,
:  b'Shem Yeshua, God bless you!
:- Rav Glen Allen Bradley ( the Ÿalmsmith in the valley of peace )
:   http://www.glen-bradley.net/

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[CTRL] L.A. taxpayers give $4million$ to communist organizers of DNC Convention

[Bard]

Saturday, June 24, 2000

Council votes 8-5 to give Democrats $4 million

By Rick Orlov, Staff Writer

Faced with arguments they might embarrass the city otherwise, the Los
Angeles City Council voted Friday to give $4 million to help cover a
shortfall facing organizers of the Democratic National Convention in August.

In its 8-5 vote, with Valley Council members Hal Bernson and Alex Padilla
helping provide the bare majority needed, the council also decided to make
Mayor Richard Riordan and developer Ed Roski Jr. pay as well by requiring
the Democratic National Convention Committee to use all the $1 million
letters of credit each man had committed for the event.

Riordan and Roski were briefed by convention officials and agreed to the
terms, even though the letters of credit originally were designed to cover
any cash shortage the organizers faced.

"It seems to me, if this city is being asked to come up with some money, we
ought to make sure they use up all they have," said Councilwoman Jackie
Goldberg, who made the proposal along with several other conditions before
she agreed to vote for the spending.

"My initial inclination when I heard about this was to vote against it. All
my staff and all my political advisers wanted me to vote against it. I was
asked what I wanted to vote for it, and these are my conditions."

The two other major conditions she demanded were to make Pershing Square,
across from the Regal Biltmore Hotel, the official protest site for the
convention and also to create a special ad hoc committee to review police
security plans.

Deputy Chief Maurice Moore said the Los Angeles Police Department opposed
both proposals, but the council approved them to win Goldberg’s support. The
issue is expected to be raised again next Wednesday when Police Chief
Bernard C. Parks briefs the council on security planning.

The vote represented a major victory for convention planners, who are
heading into the final six weeks leading up to the event, to be held Aug.
14-17 at Staples Center.

"We are pleased to have an expanded partnership with the city and are glad
we will be able to go ahead with all our work," said Noelia Rodriguez, chief
executive of the Host 2000 Committee.

The money is needed by July 1, she said, and will go primarily for work at
Staples Center, where the convention will be held.

Voting against the spending were council members Laura Chick, Mike Feuer,
Cindy Miscikowski, Joel Wachs and Rudy Svorinich. Those voting in favor were
Bernson, Padilla, Goldberg, Ruth Galanter, Mike Hernandez, Nate Holden, Nick
Pacheco and Mark Ridley-Thomas. John Ferraro and Rita Walters were absent.

Wachs, a candidate for mayor next year, has led the opposition to the $4
million payment, saying it’s an example of why the public has such distrust
of government and secession movements are thriving.

"People are looking to us to spend their money wisely, on services they need
and not to bail out some politically powerful people," Wachs said. "People
are looking at what we are doing and will remember."

The other four opponents on the council argued that convention officials
should be required to live up to the original deal: that it would completely
finance the campaign through private funds, aside from $7 million in in-kind
services the city is providing for security and traffic control.

"This is almost like a bait-and-switch," Chick said.

Feuer said it will set a precedent regarding the city’s credibility if it is
willing to agree to changing the terms of an agreement.

Holden, leading the effort to allocate the funds, blasted opponents.

"You all are a bunch of turkeys," Holden shouted. "This is such hypocrisy.
We give thousands of dollars every year to the Academy Awards and other
events. This is an important event for the city and we should do all we can
to make it work."

Hernandez also defended the spending as an investment that will see a $135
million return due to the influx of some 35,000 visitors including
delegates, media representatives and others.

The action prompted some mixed emotions among downtown business people.

While supporting the spending, they opposed the designation of Pershing
Square as the official protest site.

Carol Schatz of the Central City Association said the park, located on a
square block in the heart of the Central Business District, is directly
across from where delegates and national officials will be staying and will
present other security problems since the jewelry district is just to the
east of it.

Several others from the Central Business District also raised concerns about
traffic problems that would be created both on the street level and with the
Metro Rail system.

In addition, they argued that the site that had been designated is on a
large parking lot adjacent to Staples Center, where stage, microphone and
bathroom facilities will be provided.
http://www.dailynews.com/archives/2000/06/24/new03.asp

BARD
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Re: [CTRL] Days of oil are over, says Saudi ex-Oil Minister

[Yardbird]

:   The renewables are always predicting that they would be viable if only
: the price of oil rises by another $10 . Most of the stuff
: -photovoltaic panels etc, are made from oil and never return the
: energy invested in them , so renewable energy just gets more expensive
: and always stays $10 ahead of the price of oil ..


: Bobby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
: Hey Mo, this news should make you happy...
: http://news.excite.com/news/r/000624/19/energy-britain-yamani
: -
: Ex-Saudi Oil Minister Yamani predicts oil crash
: Updated 7:19 PM ET June 24, 2000
: LONDON, June 24 (Reuters) - Britain's Sunday Telegraph newspaper
: quoted
: former Saudi Arabian Oil Minister Ahmed Zaki Yamani as saying oil
: prices are set to crash in the next five years and the "oil age" would
: end.
: "I can tell you with a degree of confidence that after five years
: there
: will be a sharp drop in the price of oil," was quoted as saying. "The
: price will stay high for the moment because of high demand."

: Yamani, who was oil minister from 1962 to 1986 and who guided Saudi
: oil
: policy during the 1973 Arab oil embargo, said prices would fall due to
: successful oil exploration efforts and the development of technologies
: that did not use oil.

: "It is coming because oil companies who generated a huge profit from
: this price of oil are spending so much on exploration and
: developments.
: The discoveries which took place in the last three months are
: significant," Yamani was quoted as saying.

: He was quoted as saying the discovery -- as yet unannounced -- of huge
: oil fields in Kazakhstan and in the northern Caspian Sea, coupled with
: finds in Egypt, Yemen, Angola and Nigeria would also contribute to
: increasing oil supplies.

: Iraqi oil, currently languishing under sanctions, would also make a
: return, he was quoted as saying.

: Under the sanctions, imposed on Iraq over its 1990 invasion of Kuwait,
: Baghdad is allowed to sell oil only under close United Nations
: scrutiny
: to finance the purchase of food and medicine.

: "On the supply side it is easy to find oil and produce it. And on the
: demand side there are so many new technologies. The hybrid engines
: will
: cut gasoline consumption by something like 30 percent," was quoted as
: saying.

: Other technologies such as fuel cells, which use hydrogen as an energy
: source, would cut petrol consumption spectacularly by the end of the
: decade.

: The picture for oil would be even more dire in 30 years time, Yamani
: said.

: "Thirty years from now, there is no problem with oil. Oil will be left
: in the ground. The Stone Age came to an end not because we had a lack
: of stones, and the oil age will come to an end not because we have a
: lack of oil," Yamani was quoted as saying.

: --
: No voting rights for illiterates in National elections.They should
: vote
: only in Village Panchayat elections.Village leaders should vote in
: National, State elections along with those who have passed atleast
: matriculate exam. Make voting compulsory. Inititiate judicial reforms
: now! save India.


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[CTRL] WACO: Davidian Gunfire? FLIR Reflections (3)

[lloyd]

..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: WACO: Davidian Gunfire? FLIR Reflections (3)
Date: Monday, June 12, 2000 6:40 AM

FLIR Flashes Said To Be Davidian Gunfire Now On Internet

When I saw Davidian gunfire on the Waco FLIR listed in
Carlos Ghigliotti's report, I thought those flashes would
establish a benchmark for what gunshots look like. What I
found instead was a striking lesson in the geometry of solar
reflections. Flashes said to be Davidian gunfire are on bare
roof (away from but below probably broken windows) and they
always occur only when the FLIR-mounted aircraft is in one
area, exactly as it would be if the flashes are a result of
the camera passing through reflected beams of solar energy.
I believe that the examples of the consistency of flashes
to the camera's angle you will see at the following page
decisively confirm that the alleged Davidian gunshots are
solar reflections: http://www.erols.com/igoddard/flirloc9.htm



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Re: [CTRL] "Shoot-to-Kill" Palestinians Coming Home

[Yardbird]

: The real reason for the so-called former "security zone" inside Lebanon, the
: high fence and Israelis armed to the teeth is to stop Palestinian refugees from
: going home to their land.

: The daily Star, 26June00
: http://www.dailystar.com.lb/


: Israeli border troops given live-fire order
: Beirut and Amman condemn civilian shootings
: Lana Captan
: Daily Star staff

: Israeli soldiers manning the border with Lebanon reportedly received orders on
: Sunday to fire live ammunition at anyone attempting to cross the frontier.
: The shoot-to-kill order came a day after Israeli troops shot and wounded four
: Jordanians at the Fatima Gate in Kfar Kila in the worst violence since Israeli
: forces withdrew a month ago.
: “The Israeli Army reaffirms that it will prevent attempts at infiltration which
: have increased recently, and will react, after warnings, as is required in this
: type of situation,” an Israeli military spokesman said.
: In addition to the new firing instructions, the Israeli Army has also demanded
: an end to stone throwing by demonstrators on the Lebanese side of the fence,
: Israel’s Army Radio said.
: Tensions remained high at Fatima Gate on Sunday after an Israeli soldier was
: lightly injured when he was hit in the head by a stone.
: Around 1,000 Palestinian refugees were demonstrating at the gate at the time.
: The Islamic League of Palestinian students in Lebanon hoisted Palestinian flags
: at the gate and pelted Israeli Army vehicles with stones.
: “We ask for the complete return to our homeland Palestine and stand against all
: humiliating schemes and agreements,” said league president Raafat Harra.
: The four Jordanians who were shot on Saturday were members of a 150-strong
: professional trade delegation, including doctors, lawyers and architects, who
: were attending a two-day conference Beirut on reconstructing the south. They
: were wounded during a tour of the South.
: According to Taher Shakshir, head of the visiting Jordanian delegation, the
: crowd at the Fatima Gate was chanting anti-Israeli slogans.
: “The Jewish soldiers behind the barbed wire suddenly turned their rifles toward
: us and opened fire,” Shakshir said.
: The Israeli soldiers were reportedly using a mixture of live ammunition and
: rubber-coated bullets. Ali Abu Sukkar, secretary-general of the Jordanian
: Engineers’ Union, was shot in the back and Ghassan Abul-Hajj, an engineer, was
: shot in the leg. Rashed Rahman and Said Salah sustained light wounds. All four
: were taken to Marjayoun Hospital and then to a Hizbullah-run hospital in Beirut.
: They left for Amman on Sunday.
: Both the Lebanese and Jordan governments were swift to condemn the
: shooting.“Israeli aggression confirms Lebanon’s worries regarding the Israeli
: enemy in the wake of withdrawal from the occupied zone,” President Emile Lahoud
: said in a statement on Saturday.
: Lahoud received Shakshir on Sunday to ask about the health of the wounded
: Jordanians and thanked the delegation for its visit to Lebanon, which he said
: was a show of support for reconstruction in the South.
: Prime Minister Salim Hoss said that Israel “ignored international laws” and said
: the incident should be placed “in the hands of the international community.”
: Hizbullah condemned the shooting and issued a veiled warning. “We are following
: up carefully the Israeli aggression. We know their purposes and aims. We know
: how to deal with them with the necessary wisdom at the right time and under the
: right circumstances,” the party said in a statement.
: The Jordanian government said “the flagrant attack on defenseless civilians … is
: unjustified under any pretext and sows suspicion about the honesty of Israel’s
: intentions.”
: Jordanian Deputy  Prime Minister Saleh Irshaidat summoned the head of the
: Israeli diplomatic mission in Amman to request an “explanation and apology” for
: the incident.
: The Israeli Army claimed that men were seen attempting to climb the gate at the
: border fence at Fatima Gate. Warning shots were fired in the air before a few
: rounds were fired at their legs, the Israeli Army said.
: A Lebanese engineer who attended the conference on Sunday, said that it was
: unfortunate that the delegation was fired at when they were visiting the country
: to support the Lebanese after Israel’s withdrawal.
: According to a statement released by the Lebanese Order of Engineers and
: Architects on Sunday, the “aggressive actions against the Jordanian brothers who
: were in Lebanon to support us and celebrate with us after the withdrawal” should
: be taken to the United Nations.
: Since May 24, Lebanese and foreign tourists have visited the Fatima gate between
: Kfar Kila and the Israeli settlement of Metulla.
: Nine other civilians have been wounded along the border since the withdrawal in
: May. ­ with Agencies

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Re: [CTRL] Pope urges India PM to guarantee religious freedom

[Yardbird]

: Pope urges India PM to guarantee religious freedom

: By Luke Baker


: ROME, June 26 (Reuters) - Pope John Paul on Monday urged Indian Prime
: Minister Atal Behari Vajpayee, who is in Italy for a two-day state
: visit, to guarantee religious freedoms in his predominantly Hindu
: country.

: ``The Holy Father took the opportunity once again to underline the
: importance of religious freedom,'' Chief Vatican spokesman Joaquin
: Navarro-Valls said in a statement after Vajpayee's 15-minute audience
: with the Pope.

: ``The tradition of religious freedom in India has been damaged by
: recent acts of violence, of which Christians, and the Catholic Church
: in particular, have been victims,'' he added.

: Last week, vandals struck a cemetery in the southern Indian town of
: Rajahmundry, damaging crosses on 40 graves. It was the latest in a
: series of attacks on the Christian community this year.

: Over a dozen people, including a priest, have been killed and churches
: burnt in attacks, which Indian officials have accused arch-foe Pakistan
: of engineering. Pakistan denies the charges and others believe militant
: Hindu factions are to blame.

: On the eve of his visit, Vajpayee asked India's state governments to
: investigate every incident of violence against Christians and to take
: speedy action against the culprits.

: ``My government is committed to upholding the law of the land which
: guarantees equal rights to all our citizens without any discrimination,
: but no rights to anybody or any organisation... to spread ill-will and
: hatred,'' he said.

: The Pope visited India in November last year when he praised the nation
: for its religious tolerance, saying it was greater than in many
: countries.

: Christians make up less than two percent of India's one billion people,
: while Hindus account for about 85 percent.

: INDIA OFFERS ITALY HIGH TECH AID

: Vajpayee later met Italian Prime Minister Giuliano Amato for talks on
: expanding trade between the countries, particularly in the information
: technology sector.

: Italy is India's fourth biggest trading partner within the European
: Union, but the value of trade, at just over $2 billion, is still small.

: In a speech delivered to the Italian-Indian business community,
: Vajpayee said the target would be to expand two-way trade flows to $5
: billion by 2004 and $10 billion by 2009.

: It is also hoped Italian foreign direct investment in India, totalling
: less than $1.3 billion over the past decade, will accelerate sharply,
: particularly given that India's economy is growing at over six percent
: a year, Vajpayee said.

: After the speech, India's National Association of Software and Service
: Companies (NASSC) announced Italy had requested 100 software trainers
: be sent from India to help train Italian software professionals. Italy
: has a huge shortage of IT professionals.

: In return, Italy planned to smooth the way for Indian companies looking
: to set up in Italy and to provide Indian professionals with ``liberal''
: work permits.

: Vajpayee was due to leave for Portugal on Monday for an India-EU summit.


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[CTRL] Fwd: NewsMax.com: Inside Cover Story

[Aleisha Saba]

They're Back.Jessie, NAACP, Black Panthers, a return to the 60
period and all controlled by guess who - why Hill and Bill are
engineering this with their henchmen.

For you do not believe Hill and Bill are Democrats do you  - Bill tried
to make himself in to a JFK imagine and some wanted to see this image
again in the White House.   Well what they saw, was not what they got.

Instead we got Waco, Ruby Ridge, the Balkans, little Monica with her
Pizza Pie and now it is a return to the 60 period using the same old
rituals and turning loose CIA controlled Black Panthers - Graham, a
Martyer and Revenge My Death.

This is a direct threat to the life of George W. Bush, Jr.They now
will try to get this man killed - and hey, who was the guy driving that
dump truck that nearly ran down Bush Jr.all he said was, NO AMERICAN
WILL EVER WEAR UN UNIFORM SO LONG AS I AM PRESIDENT.

So if Bush gets elected he better watch who he puts in 2nd spot.make
it another Dan Quayle or a Gore type, that people would rather Keep
Clinton, than Have Gore for Presidentthe secret, to his sucess.

Jessie Jackson I have concluded is an evil man for he has triggered this
maybe in his own ignorance.so the NAAP wants to disarm White
America?   Well now is the time for White American to remember, the idea
of this country is to be on defensive, and that does not mean going to
your local K Mart and buying a sling shot.   AK's are in at Littleton
and at Black Panther Party.

Now these people will move to destroy the Republican Convention just as
they did in 1968 when an element took over the Democrat party threafter,
and it was never the same.

Remember Reaganhe left the Democrat Party and he was nearly murdered
by this same element for he took on this CFR who warned him right in the
open - lay off the Federal Reserve...and Hinckly gets weekends home
now?   Hope he doesn't watch any re-runs of Taxi with little Jodi.

They are turning wild animals loose in the streets.we saw Central
Park...we need more Guilianos and dump Hill and Bill before this country
ends up like South Africa.

A Saba 

Saturday June 24, 2000; 9:45 PM EDT
Gary Graham's Dying Wish: 'Avenge My Death'

Rev. Jesse Jackson compared Texas Governor George W. Bush to Pontius
Pilate for refusing to delay his execution. And after he was dead
Jackson and others called him a martyr.

But Gary Graham's dying words had nothing to do with Christlike
forgiveness or even remorse for the 19 victims he left in his wake.

Instead, Graham's last expressed desire on earth was for revenge.

**
"He urged his supporters to avenge his death by whatever means
possible," reported "News 2 Houston" on its Web site Friday.



And although Rev. Jackson made no mention of it in the immediate
aftermath of Graham's execution, he informed the dead man's family the
next day that his dying wish was a request to "avenge my death."

If Graham's supporters decide to heed his call, it wouldn't be the first
time.

"Shortly before a previous execution date last year, Graham called on
his supporters to come armed with AK-47's," reported the Houston
Chronicle on Thursday. In the last week members of the New Black Panther
Party have complied not once but twice.

On June 16, 15 Panthers armed with AK-47s, shotguns and assault rifles
descended on the state GOP convention as Texas first lady Laura Bush was
about to speak. Repeatedly shouting "black power!" they assaulted one
delegate, who demanded to know if their guns were loaded.  [Nice work
Hill and Billl - we know your style, we saw it at Waco and Ruby Ridge]
**

Five days later, Panther Information Minister Quanell X warned that he
would lead the same group in a march on the Huntsville, Texas death
house on the day of Graham's execution. Asked by "Fox News" if his gang
would be armed as before, Minister X said, "It wouldn't make sense to
take a butter knife to a gunfight."

Minister X also had some choice words for Governor Bush:

"I believe George Bush is a racist white man. In fact, he's the biggest
killer of black men here in Texas. George Bush has put more black men to
death than any other nation on earth."

In its Thursday report, the Chronicle also noted that earlier in the
year, "Quanell X, who planned the demonstration in Houston last week,
urged young blacks to take out their anger against whites in wealthy
neighborhoods instead of their own community if the execution is not
delayed."

As Graham's final moments approached, Minister X stood outside the
Huntsville Walls Unit death house and told a curious "Fox News"
reporter, "You're damned right we're armed."
**
Minutes later he turned to another reporter, who happened to be white,
and warned, "If I looked like you, I wouldn't be around when he dies,"
the Chronic

Re: [CTRL] giants

[Aleisha Saba]

Thanks Nessie.   This stuff gets pretty complicated and I wish I had it
30 years ago.   There were two good books I had, and they too are gone
with the wind - never lend a book and expect to get back.

Joseph Campbell wrote Masks of God; and my old friend once told me about
the OGHAM code (valley of Hamon-Gog) which is yet to be
deciphered...alleged to be a witches brew code.

There was a book I read when it was first out called Secret Societies by
Norman McKenzie and it had some interesting thingbs, but no so complex
as you mention.   But Footsteps of Orpheus too, is anothere one - one
book by Blavatsky written in 1878 as I recall spoke of the White Star
line as being "unluckey".well later someone wrote a book called
Futility then destribing a big ship called TITAN - and of course down
when the White Star Line's beautiful ship Titanic.so this was all
planned well in advance, for I do not believe in accidents of this
magnitude, without a plan.   That great ship had to be someone's dream
and on drawing board long before it actually left with all those people
returning from Upper Egypt.

Loved stuff on Valley of Hamon GogTUT-ANK-HAMON..over 20 yearws
after using that in my manuscript, it hit me when King Tut's stuff was
here, what it was all about.

The Valley of Hamon Gogand there were giants in those days.  Would I
love to listen to Barry Chamish on this stuff - he sees what I see but
he expresses it better.

Had a mini stroke and sometimes my memory goes on some of this
stuff...for once I had near total rcall but it comes back - takes time.

So little Nessie - thank you.   Much appreciated and believe me will go
after those books;  Hope at my age it will not be too much to absorb.

We have a choice - war or peace.   I really believe it is all a land
grab for control of natural resources.Remember my old MI6 friend
said what better book to use than the bible ?   For now it is used for
evil and not good.

God was a woman?   Boy I cannot believe that, for it takes a man to kick
a kid out of his mother's nest - for a woman would want her children
with her forever.   I do believe Genesis I refers to Mr. and Mrs. God,
they were space travelersand their father was the one in heaven and
kicked his kids straight to hell.

Now I left the engine running on that one...thanks Nessie.

Mother Saba

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Re: [CTRL] giants

[nessie]

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>
>where did you get that name, you

>little monster.



>From a book called The White Goddess by Robert Graves, Noonday Press, a
division of Farrar, Straus and Giroux, New York, 1948, LCCCN 48-8257, pp
237-239

No truly cogent discussion of comparative mythology can be undertaken by
someone who is unfamiliar with this book. Read it today.

Let me rephrase that. Read it this month. It's an exceptionally dense
book. Every page is is packed to overflowing. Expect to have to take
copious notes.  But it's worth it. Graves' basic thesis is that mythology
is garbled history. When, for example,  we read a myth about some god or
goddess overcoming another in combat, we are really hearing about some
late pre-literate era politics, specifically the story of how one tribe
overcame another in war. He analyzes in excruciating detail some very,
very early examples and cross references them to what archeology has
taught us about Bronze Age migration patterns.

Another good book on the subject is When God Was a Woman by Merlin Stone,
Barnes and Noble, 1976, ISBN 0-88029-533-3. This is a reissue. If you can
find a copy of the earlier Doubleday edition, but it instead. It's
illustrated, and the plates go a long way towards making the text
accessible. Even the B&N edition, though, is infinitely more accessible
than Graves' book. Graves was writing for other specialists in the field.
Stone wrote for a broader audience. Graves relies primarily on textual
evidence and on his own interpretations thereof. Stone uses more physical
evidence, the booty of numerous digs. Her use of textual and physical
evidence is much more balanced than that of Graves. They're both a good
read, though.

Which reminds me, you should also read Gods and Goddesses of Ancient
Europe by Marija Gimbutas. Sorry I cant tell you the publisher or ISBN,
but one of my so-called friends has apparently walked off with my copy. Or
maybe it's under this pile of crap and I'm too lazy to dig for it. Either
way, no matter. It's in print. You should have no trouble locating a copy.
Gimbutas leans heavily on archeological evidence. The illustrations are
exquisite.

There is no way to begin to understand the world of the Old Testament
without a solid background in what the rest of the world was up to then.
These three books will definitely get you started.

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[CTRL] ** June 26, 1990 ** Bush discarded "no new taxes" pledge

[Bard]

In 1990, President Bush discarded  his "no new taxes" campaign pledge,
saying "it is clear to me" taxes are needed as part of deficit-reduction
package.

SOURCE:  Strive.To Know Your History Daily

---
In the heat of the Campaign, wonder if his Son
will make a similar mistake?
If GeeW was smart he would vow to reverse
the rapist's outrageous tax increase of 1993.

Bard
Pro Libertate - For Freedom
BUCHANAN-Reform
http://gopatgo2000.com/default.htm

Eternal Vigilance - The Price of Freedom!

The John Birch Society/The New American
http://www.thenewamerican.com

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #2

[Ric Carter]

SkeptiNews 000626b - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/25_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* No snarks were fatally bitten during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

@ SnarkBite! http://www.snarkbite.com/sasr0300.htm
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Travis AFB Area Abduction. The Travis AFB/Vacaville (CA) area has been the
  center of much anomalous aerial activity going back some 20 years. The
  area near the Grizzly Island wetland sanctuary is a particular hot spot --
  in and around Birds Landing especially. http://www.caus.org/pc062600.htm

# Flying Saucer Wind Tunnel Testing at Wright-Patterson:
  http://www.destinationspace.net/ufo/birds.asp#tunnel
# LETTER FROM BARRY GOLDWATER ABOUT UFO & WRIGHT-PATTERSON:
  http://www.sightings.com/general2/goldw.htm

@ Symbolism - The Language of the Illuminati
  http://www.davidicke.com/icke/symbolism/menu.html
@ UFO ENIGMA: http://www.destinationspace.net/ufo/ufo.asp

# I live 60 miles from Birds Landing as the UFO flies - is that too near/far
/upscale/dry? If I move closer, can I abducted too? Have you abducted (m)any
victims/enigmas/symbols/saucers lately? Did you test those in wind-tunnels?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# SPACEVIEWS 2000.26. WATER ON MARS - MirCorp Announces 1st Space Tourist to
  Mir - House Passes NASA Budget - Proton Launches RussSat - NASA Probing
  Shuttle Engine Problem - U.S. Politicos Vent Over "Faster Better Cheaper"
  Missions - 900 Large Potentially Hazardous Asteroids - The U.S. Navy in
  the Space Age - My Mother The Car: http://www.spaceviews.com/2000/0626/

# SPIDERS FROM OUTER SPACE. A group of astronauts now training for a shuttle
  mission all have 8 legs. They're also big web users.Slated to liftoff next
  year, their work in space may play a large part in the future of aerospace
  engineering & ET colonisation.And some Earth-bound goats have an interest
  in their exploits. http://www.beyond2000.com/news/Jun_00/story_668.html

# How to reach Martian water: http://alienzoo.com/news/a/26230007.cfm
# Mars life would be primitive: http://alienzoo.com/news/a/26230005.cfm
# Water damage ... on Mars: http://www.alienzoo.com/news/a/26230004.cfm
# Pie in the Sky - better things to do with astrophysics degree than baking
  cake in zero gravity? http://www.bergen.com/previews/comic2326231.htm

: Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars? Mars?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Anti-drug policies 'ineffective' (BBC) Experts call for urgent steps
  to be taken to reduce the number of deaths among drug addicts.
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_806000/806326.stm
# Also - Drug misuse research announced - here's how to shoot-up:
  http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/newsid_746000/746186.stm
# Heroin: The full facts - *everything* you *ever* wanted to know:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/health/medical_notes/newsid_85000/85691.stm

@ Rather not face up to the task of making an indiscreet point? GentleHints
   lets the coward in you send an anonymous
  letter  and helpful gift. Now
  get a cultural scrub at http://www.memepool.com/Subject/Culture/

@ Barbara Hartwell - survivor of CIA MK ULTRA & PHOENIX Project, trained &
  utilized by CIA as a deep cover operative & professional CIA asset, under
  mind control programming, which the perpetrators believed was "guaranteed
  under National Security." http://www.ulster.net/~babs7/

: What's your favorite behavioural-modification technique? D'ya prefer drugs
/hints/rays/implants/hypnosis/culture/surgery? Have you and/or y'r behaviour
been altered lately? Are you now an effective operative/assassin/politician?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Practicing religion in public doesn't have a prayer. We begin with an
  official prayer. Let's all pray to Satan. What? You're not a Satanist?
  You're just inferior: http://insidedenver.com/kravitz/0625bobco.shtml
# Does prayer helps health? http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?10012465

# Game prayer backers decry loss of tradition - spirits won't aid players
  anymore - damn damn damn: http://www.cincypost.com/news/pray062000.html
# Remain standing for the invocation - except that there won't be one. So
  sit down now. Now. http://www.ardemgaz.com/today/edi/wopJERRYCOX26.html
# Catholics Pack Chicago Stadium - 30,000 carry grandstands off for fiery
  ritual: http://www.earthchangestv.com/breaking/June2000/0625catholics.htm

# Let us pray: And crucify 'em. Anyone who confuses the Holy Trinity
  of Father, Son and Holy Spirit with the gridiron trinity of mayhem,
  manhandling and maiming has an odd set of priorities. Surprise!
  http://www.jsonline.com/news/editorials/j

Re: [CTRL] As gasoline prices skyrocket, so does value of Gore's oil stock

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/23/2000 8:29:40 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  Vice President Al Gore, who is trying to link George W. Bush
 to soaring gasoline prices by emphasizing the Texas governor's
 ties to the oil industry, controls at least $500,000 worth of
 stock in Occidental Petroleum. >>

I just remember that a few months back, I was doing some kind of research or
another and stumbled on some talking papers from an Independent Oil Companies
Consortium.  One dated in February was advising the Clinton Administration to
stop discussing increases in oil production with the OPEC nations, because
the US oil companies needed there to be less production so the prices could
rise and they could make more  money.  At the same time there were papers
hammering McCain, Gore, and Bradley.  Now that just leaves our friend Shrub.
Believe me, anything the oil companies do is for the oil companies, and the
Bush family has a lot of connection/influence, not to mention ownership, with
oil companies.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Lazio: SEC has launched informal probe of my stock trades

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/23/2000 8:19:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
Blasting the Clinton administration, U.S. Senate candidate
 Rick Lazio said Thursday the Securities and Exchange Commission
 has launched an "informal investigation" into his stock option
 trading.

 The congressman from Long Island is running for the Senate in New
 York against Hillary Rodham Clinton. Lazio has denied any
 wrongdoing in connection with his stock dealings. >>

Someone should welcome Mr. Lazio to the fine world of politics.  He should
just be glad he didn't bother to get a haircut.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Sons of the Middle Border

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/23/2000 5:42:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  Especially troublesome to him and others was the fact that the
 Communist Party in Hollywood used intimidation and peer pressure and made
life
 difficult for those who would not comply. Reagan realized that many actors
and
 actresses belonged to these organizations out of naivete, but he was worried
 about the message and pro-communist attitudes that were being slipped into
 movies. The film colony was deeply sympathetic to the Russian version of
 communism, and films and attitudes often showed that sympathy.

 Additionally, actors and actresses who refused to go along were blacklisted
by
 the left. People such as Barbara Stanwyck and Bette Davis were hardly right-
 wing types, but they were angry at the pressure being put on them to join the
 party, so they appealed to Reagan. Unfortunately, in later years an
ungrateful
 Bette Davis made snide remarks about the man who had tried to address her
 complaints. >>

These paragraphs are almost comic when one hears about what happened to
anyone even suspected of being mildly pink a short time later.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] giants

[Aleisha Saba]

Were talking symbolism also, Nessie - where did you get that name, you
little monster.

Some call Russia into this theme - but there are many armageddons as
there are many anti Christssome on this list.

Anyone can be an anti Christ - but then some, just do not believe.

These two huge statues of Gog and MaGog still stand in Englandonce
was a secret society called Gorgomons (that may not be spelled right,
long time since I went into that stuff) and I have a picture of them in
a march ridiculing the Freemasons and having a little fun, like a Gay
Pride March or Doo Dah parade (from Camptown Races).

Looks like the one battle has been given up for there is peace, they
say, in Irelandgotta get those Irish guns first Londondeiry is
in Armagh County in Ireland.frankly I would have loved to have seen
the Irish take that battle, for it seems now Blair and Clintono have
sent their polluted AIDS blood to the purest blood in the worldthe
IRA gives up too soon.

Then there is an Armagh county in holy land, and it looks like peace in
the holy land - someone has to be kidding here

Now a Shiek has come out with we will not need arab oil within 5 years
not be that important.   Eisenhower told a Saudian Arabian King that
when he was president, that within 20 years no need for oil.well, we
could do without it, for this is the Solar Energy, etc. age.

So Gog and MaGog.tilll stand, and are a threat to England...and
maybe it is according to what bible you read and like NEBO who does the
interpreting that makes the difference?

Nessie - any relation to the Lochness monster, or are you just a
dreamer?

So Barry Chamis says there is to be a return of the giants.you
better believe it and nobody will kill this Goliath unless he is big
enough to toss the Rock of Gibralter.

Least that is what I believe and certain families believe scattered
worldwide - monarchs in waiting, and those who seek revenge.

We see these people now destroying Amrerica who would make us like South
Africa.

So let the bastards drink that oil and eat those diamonds.The
Amrican Farmer has always been my hero - and it seems they are beating
their ploughshares back into swords - and I would not want those men mad
at me.

Enough, is enough.   Gog was always my biblical hero, and King Og the
great whose land and estates were stole by those of "low estate".

Bible is being used as Master Plan for Murder and you see it happening
before you eyes, and see not.turn loose the astrologers only this
time, test them to be sure they are true.

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[CTRL] Fw: [freedomfight] Re: Fw: Weight...(couldn't resist this one...)

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- Original Message - 
From: Pat Rylance 
 Sent: Monday, June 26, 2000 9:13 AM
Subject: [freedomfight] Re: Fw: Weight...(couldn't resist this 
one...)


   Sent: Sunday, 
  June 25, 2000 7:07 PMSubject: Weight...(couldn't resist this 
  one...) 

Re: [CTRL] PALESTINE: NO FREEDOM OF SPEECH

[Yardbird]

: .while i dont neccessarily agree with the literal right of return of
: palestinians to israel...i do support anyone's right to believe in it and
: be able to express their views without being arrested.no arab or jew in
: israel would be arrested for seeking compensation/ return for arab refugees

: "Arafat adviser arrested after criticizing Palestinian
: negotiating stance.
: Palestinian police arrested one of Yasser Arafat's advisers on refugee issues
: after he criticized the Palestinian leader's stance on negotiating with Israel
: about refugees, a family member said Sunday.

: Abdel Fattah Ghaniem, 60, was summoned to police headquarters in Ramallah on
: June 21 and placed under arrest, Ghaniem's daughter Raja told The Associated
: Press. It marked the first time Arafat has ordered the arrest of someone from
: his inner circle.

: Ramallah police chief Kamal Sheik confirmed that Ghaniem was in custody. "We
: carry out orders from the higher authority and we do not know the reasons
: behind the orders," Sheik told the AP. Raja Ghaniem said her father's office in
: the Gaza Strip was searched by Force 17, Arafat's elite guards, and that
: information stored on his computer was downloaded and several documents were
: taken. A Palestinian official said Ghaniem had slandered senior Palestinian
: officials dealing with negotiations, but gave no further details. Raja Ghaniem
: said her father, while in Jordan, had given news interviews criticizing the
: handling of negotiations on the refugee issue. He urged public opposition to
: any solution that did not include the right of several million Palestinians to
: return to former homes in Israel. In recent months a number of Palestinians who
: have spoken out against Arafat and his government have been arrested. (AP) "


: © copyright 2000 Ha'aretz. All Rights Reserved

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[CTRL] Ritalin - The Feminists Answer to Active Little Boys [kiddie cocaine]

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[ "HE’S not the one with the problem.
You and the teacher are the problem." ]

ADHD - Is Ritalin Kiddie Cocaine?

Ritalin - The Feminists’ Answer to Active Little Boys
By: Mary Mostert, Analyst, Original Source (www.originalsources.com)

September 2, 1999

A study published recently by the American Journal of Public Health which
involved 30,000 children in two school districts in Virginia strongly
suggests that ADHD, the attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, “may be
overdiagnosed, and the drug used to treat the condition may be
overprescribed.”

Really now? Having raised a very active boy who quite definitely would be on
Ritalin today if his teachers had their way, I still doubt the existence of
the “disorder.” Today, nearly 6 percent of the school-age population in the
United States has been diagnosed with ADHD, a condition “characterised by
impulsive behaviour and difficulties in paying attention and keeping still.”
Approximately 90 percent of patients with ADHD take the drug Ritalin.

Ritalin, or methylphenidate, is a mild central nervous system stimulant. It
boosts the brain's ability to control impulsive behaviour and helps children
concentrate. Dr. Mary Ann Block the author of "No More Ritalin" refers to
Ritalin as "kiddie cocaine" and contends it can cause dangerous behaviour.
(see: http://www.blockcenter.com/main.htm) Among my grandchildren’s
generation, Ritalin use, in my opinion, quite definitely IS being used as
“kiddie cocaine” to “control” normal boy behavior.

Today, when a child is totally bored in school, or jumps from one subject to
another, you can bet someone at that school is going to pressure the parents
to put the kid of Ritalin. In fact, one of my granddaughters, far less
active and less rambunctious than her uncle at the same age was
teacher-diagnosed as needing Ritalin. Her mother’s answer was a firm “No!”

LeFever found the number of children medicated in school for ADHD was 17
percent for white boys, 9 percent for African-American boys, 7 percent for
white girls and 3 percent for African-American girls.

Seventeen percent of Virginia’s white boys are abnormal and require what Dr.
Block calls “... mind-altering drugs”? Block points out that Ritalin, is
“almost identical to cocaine -- goes to the same receptor site in the brain,
causes the same high when taken in the same manner," Block said. Of course,
the doctors who prescribe Ritalin claim it is “safe when taken under close
supervision and does not have long-term effects even if started at a very
young age.”

Others see a totally different picture with the same “results.” What many
teachers want to see in their students, and what Ritalin does may be the
same thing. However, is what teachers want in the way of behaviour in their
class necessarily a good thing for a bright, healthy, child with an
inquiring mind? Is the problem in the classroom with the child not paying
attention or the problem in the classroom a boring teacher?

For example, if your 10 year old son is considered ADHD in the classroom
because he won’t or “can’t” concentrate, but comes home and plays for hours
with his game-boy or Nintendo, the kid obviously CAN concentrate. In fact,
most 10 year olds today can beat the socks off their grandparents at
Nintendo because they are so GOOD at concentrating on the game.

Invariably when I get into a discussion with ADHD parents they tell me that
their child usually “performs better in school” and “relates better with
family and friends.” When I ask for specifics I find that the child is
“better able” to do boring school work. This is a plus? Parents, some of the
homework I’ve seen in recent years makes no sense. A child who can plow
through it and end up believing it makes sense is the one with the problem,
not the child who is bored with it.

In November 1998, Dr. Peter R. Breggin presented a scientific paper at the
Plenary Session of the National Institute of Health Consensus Conference on
ADHD and its Treatment. (see: http://www.breggin.com/ritalin.html) He dealt
with the common dosage of Ritalin for young children saying, in part: “There
is little doubt that stimulants can, for a time at least, subdue a child's
behaviour, making the child easier to manage and especially more willing to
perform rote, boring tasks. But we need to look beneath the surface at the
underlying effects and mechanisms of action.”

Dr. Breggin’s warnings need to be known to every parent who gives their
child Ritalin:

1. Psychostimulants (such as Ritalin) can cause irreversible brain damage
and dysfunction. This is known with high degree of scientific probability in
regard to amphetamine and methamphetamine, and with a high suspicion in
regard to methylphenidate.

2. Psychostimulants cause multiple adverse effects, including a variety of
cardiac and central nervous system effects, such as COD, depression, and
even mania. The CNS effects often confuse doctors, leading inappropriately
to further psychiatric diagnosis and medication rather th

Re: [CTRL] giants

[nessie]

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>
>Gog, was the son of Og



Gog MacOg?

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Re: [CTRL] Training For Jihad - New York Times Magazine Article

[Yardbird]

: New York Times Magazine
: 25 June, 2000

: http://www.nytimes.com/library/magazine/home/2625mag-taliban.html




: Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
: Before you buy.

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Re: [CTRL] giants

[Aleisha Saba]

 Barry Chamish is one ofo my favorites and it seems everyone I like,
someone is after - Truth is Hell.but reference the Giants, in the
old testament they speak of Giants and Og, was one of them.


King Og was alleged to be a giant of a man - and so was Sihon, I think.
Now Moses murdered both of these Kings to reach the promised land?

Strange - the Fitzgeralds desended from Gerald of Og, married a Princess
Nestaaccording to the Earl of Wycliff.   Old family name.
Fitzgerald, is son of Geraldif hyphenated, to Fitz-Gerald, is the
bastard line.

In England they have two huge statues of Gog and MaGog and I always
thought in the minds of the English and their King James Bible that Gog
and Magog were Scotch and Irish and that Gog, was the son of Og..now
Gog was of the tribe of Dan?   And in Ezekial 38-39 you see symbolism of
President of the United States and any HIGH degree Mason knows what this
is about.   Seems Moses had more to fear afrom King Og and Sihon (Sihon,
drop that h and it is Sion - he could say Shibboleth no doubt).   Never
liked a Moses and those phoney marches to a promised land - and he did
such evil that God took him like Hoffa but just knocked King off, for
playing a minor role of a lesser prophet?

So is this the return of Og and Sihon for revenge?   Even the Psalms
of David mentions how wonderful it was Og and Sihon were murdered.

Never did figure out how tall Og wasthy measured him in cubits or
something.

Anyway reproduced here is one psalm, and for added reading toss in the
109th and the 110th psalm, and remember the names are changed to protect
the guilty 

When I think Moses, I always see a black man now..like Dr. King and
who will be the next one to assume this role, a Black Panther in your
future?

Now this is a conspiracy research THEORY list is it not - it took
Sigmund Freud many years to figure out truth in sublime pictures and
abstract thinking..imagine sitting in a church while a preacher
reads from a special bible, opened to a special chapter and verse and
quotes sameyou read one thing but - get the picture?

A Saba

The King James Bible
at the Electronic Text Center, University of Virginia
Psalms, psalm 136
"1": O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth
for ever.
"2": O give thanks unto the God of gods: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"3": O give thanks to the Lord of lords: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"4": To him who alone doeth great wonders: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"5": To him that by wisdom made the heavens: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"6": To him that stretched out the earth above the waters: for his mercy
endureth for ever.
"7": To him that made great lights: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"8": The sun to rule by day: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"9": The moon and stars to rule by night: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"10": To him that smote Egypt in their firstborn: for his mercy endureth
for ever:
"11": And brought out Israel from among them: for his mercy endureth for
ever:
"12": With a strong hand, and with a stretched out arm: for his mercy
endureth for ever.
"13": To him which divided the Red sea into parts: for his mercy
endureth for ever:
"14": And made Israel to pass through the midst of it: for his mercy
endureth for ever:
"15": But overthrew Pharaoh and his host in the Red sea: for his mercy
endureth for ever.
"16": To him which led his people through the wilderness: for his mercy
endureth for ever.
"17": To him which smote great kings: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"18": And slew famous kings: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"19": Sihon king of the Amorites: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"20": And Og the king of Bashan: for his mercy endureth for ever:
"21": And gave their land for an heritage: for his mercy endureth for
ever:
"22": Even an heritage unto Israel his servant: for his mercy endureth
for ever.
"23": Who remembered us in our low estate: for his mercy endureth for
ever:
"24": And hath redeemed us from our enemies: for his mercy endureth for
ever.
"25": Who giveth food to all flesh: for his mercy endureth for ever.
"26": O give thanks unto the God of heaven: for his mercy endureth for
ever.


Wonder what they mean, who remembered us in our LOW ESTATE.Killed Og
and took his land and estates - sounds like that garbage going on in
South Africa, does it not?

Well vengence is mine, so saith the Lordbut he promised, to repay
did he not?

A. Saba
Dare To Call It Conspiracy

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Re: [CTRL] Osama calls for Islamic Jihad against Xtians , Jews and Hindus .

[Yardbird]

: Osama renews call for Jehad
: RAWALPINDI (NNI) - Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden has called upon the
: Muslims of the world to wage jehad (holy war) against the anti-Muslim
: forces which are perpetrating atrocities on them.
: “You are fully aware that the Jews and Christians have, through their
: machinations, occupied the Muslim holy sites in Haramain Sharifain and
: in Palestine. We have to play an extremely important role to break
: their shackles,” bin Laden said in a message.
: The letter, carrying bin Laden’s full name printed in bold letters on
: top and his signatures at bottom, said it was evident that the Jews
: and Christians were archetypal enemies of the Muslims. “God says they
: can never be your friend until you start following them. Therefore
: Jehad against both of them is incumbent upon the Muslims,” he said.
: Laden said that besides occupying and sacrilege of Muslim holy places
: were also plundering their wealth and resources.
: “How can we remain silent spectator to this situation. It is the joint
: duty of Muslims to wage jehad against the Jews and Christians,” he
: said, and added all efforts could yield fruit only if the enemy was
: defeated at every front.
: “It is therefore necessary that unflagging efforts are made for the
: liberation of the Muslim holy places, Kashmir, Palestine and other
: oppressed Muslim territories.”
: This, he said, was imperative to regain the lost grace. He said US and
: Israeli attacks against weaker Muslim states were an emblem of their
: confusion.
:

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[CTRL] US Govt Killed Author

[lloyd]

..

>From the New Paradigms Project [Not Necessarily Endorsed]:

From: Ian Goddard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: US Govt Killed Author
Date: Saturday, June 17, 2000 6:17 PM


The abuse of the best-selling author and medical-marijuana activist
Peter McWilliams by the U.S. Federal Government during his life is
beyond belief, primarily because it sparked no uprising of outrage.
The DEA was out to destroy McWilliams for what he wrote. Trying to
find anything they possibly could on him, they raided his properties
several times, like this time: http://petertrial.com/dea_wishes.htm .
When they found no cannabis they took things like his writings and
lists of friends. They said his publishing business would be seized
either by the DEA (if they found cannabis) or by the IRS. The raids
on McWilliams properties weren't random, he was a target. There's
no First Amendment if writers who threaten to make a difference
are targeted and systematically destroyed by the powers that be.
It even follows that the government finally murdered McWilliams...

If Peter McWilliams had died of most AIDS-related complications,
to say he was murdered by the initiation of force to prevent his
access to cannabis would not be an entirely reasonable statement,
since it's far from established, nor even claimed, that cannabis
cures AIDS. However, what McWilliams died from, inhalation of
vomit resulting from nausea induced by the medications he was
taking, is precisely what McWilliams had used cannabis to stop
before the DEA initiated force to prevent him from treating his
nausea. Patients on AIDS drugs or undergoing chemotherapy are
often made so nauseous they can't keep medications down. That
was McWilliams' problem and the anti-nausea properties of
cannabis, documented in many studies, was the effective remedy.

If you need X to stop from throwing up so you can absorb medicine
you need to survive, and I know that but I nevertheless initiate
force to prevent you from using X, and then you die as a direct
result of throwing up, for all intents and purposes I've murdered
you. It follows therefore that the Federal Government technically
murdered McWilliams, as the Libertarian Party aptly observes:



Date: Sat, 17 Jun 2000 16:02:58 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: Release: Peter McWilliams Death
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For release: June 17, 2000
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Bestselling author Peter McWilliams
is "murdered by the War on Drugs"

 WASHINGTON, DC -- Peter McWilliams, the #1 bestselling author
and medical marijuana activist who was found dead in California on June
14, was murdered by the War on Drugs, the Libertarian Party charged
today.

 "Peter McWilliams would not be dead today if not for the
heartless, lethal War on Drugs," said Steve Dasbach, the party's
national director. "The federal government killed Peter McWilliams by
denying him the medical marijuana he needed to stay alive as surely as
if its drug warriors had put a gun to his head and pulled the trigger.

 "Peter McWilliams may be dead, but the causes he so bravely
fought for -- access to life-saving medicine, an end to the War on
Drugs, and greater freedom for all Americans -- will live on."

 On Wednesday, McWilliams was found dead in the bathroom of his
Los Angeles home. According to sources, he had choked on his vomit.

 McWilliams, 50, had suffered from AIDS and non-Hodgkin's
lymphoma since 1996, and had used medical marijuana to suppress the
nausea that was a common side-effect to the potent medications needed
to keep him alive.

 The marijuana was completely legal, thanks to California's
Proposition 215, which passed in 1996 and legalized the use of
marijuana for treatment of illness. However, in late 1997, McWilliams
was arrested by federal drug agents and charged with conspiracy to sell
marijuana.

 After a federal judge ruled that McWilliams could not mention
his illnesses at his trial -- or introduce as evidence any of the
documented benefits of medical marijuana -- he pled guilty to avoid a
10-year mandatory-minimum prison sentence.

 While out on bail awaiting sentencing, McWilliams was
prohibited from using medical marijuana -- and being denied access to
the drug's anti-nausea properties almost certainly caused his death,
said Dasbach.

 "First, the federal government arrested 

Re: [CTRL] Fwd: The Anti-Democrat A-Team

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/22/2000 10:02:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Members include former secretaries of state Henry Kissinger and George
 Shultz, former defense secretaries Richard Cheney, James Schlesinger, Caspar
 Weinberger and Frank Carlucci, former CIA Director James Woolsey, former
 national security advisers Brent Scowcroft and Richard V. Allen and former
 Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Colin Powell. >>

Goodness, Mom was right.  Birds of a feather.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] TIME TO DO SOMETHING FOR BILLY DALE!

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/22/2000 9:49:28 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<   "Mr. Ray owes justice not just to the American people but to
   Judicial Watch client Billy Dale and the other Travel Office
   workers who were subject to perhaps the most callous,
   inhuman, and corrupt treatment by this Clinton-Gore
   Administration. Judicial Watch will not rest until justice is
   done. Judicial Watch has brought suit for Mr. Dale against
   The White House," stated Judicial Watch Chairman and General
   Counsel Larry Klayman.
  >>

I agree whole heartedly.  And since Mr. Klayman thinks it's all right to take
the organization's money home and put it in one's personal bank account, I
think he should give Mr. Dale a job right now.  Upward and onward, Mr.
Klayman.  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Revenge of Gary Aldrich

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/22/2000 9:33:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<
 A recent undercover sting by Congress turned up alarming security
 failures at 19 government agencies, including the Pentagon and
 even Aldrich's former employer, the FBI. And now, with yet
 another major security breach at Los Alamos National Laboratory,
 more and more fingers are pointing back to the White House. >>

Well, and it's not just ignorance in those areas.  I called my very
conservative congressman's office some time ago and asked the individual who
answered the phone if he knew that no phone (hardwired or otherwise) is
secure and therefore classified should never be discussed on the telephone.
He had never been briefed on this.  So I guess we could say that the entire
inner beltway area is rife with security violations.  Prudy

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[CTRL] Skeptic News - Monday #1

[Ric Carter]

SkeptiNews 000626a - - - - - - - - - - - All The News That's Fit To Question

* Yesterday's bulletins: http://web.pitas.com/skeptinews/25_06_2000.html
* Passages starting with ':' are editorial comments to provoke discussion.
* PLEASE do NOT include the ENTIRE bulletin when you reply; cut/paste, eh?
* Site of latest notices, praises, discoveries: http://skeptilog.pitas.com
* Several mystical secrets were lost during the production of this bulletin.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# A.HOVANESS: www.nytimes.com/yr/mo/day/news/national/obit-a-hovhaness.html
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Vatican's Fatima details. (AP) The Vatican delivered a surprise revelation
  recently in the so-called 3rd secret of Fatima, saying the vision foretold
  the shooting of the pope, and not a doomsday prophecy. The details are due
  out today. http://www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567636717-eee

# PRESENTATION OF TEXT OF THIRD SECRET OF FATIMA. VATICAN CITY (VIS) - This
  morning in the Holy See Press Office, the document "The Message Of Fatima"
  was presented. Lookit: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=4322

# COMPLETE TRANSLATION. "I write in obedience to you, my God, who command me
  to do so through his Excellency the Bishop of Leiria and through your Most
  Holy Mother and mine. http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=4323

# PENANCE IS THE KEY TO THE "SECRET." The "key word" of the third secret of
  Fatima "is the triple cry, 'Penance, Penance, Penance!'"  So let's see a
  whole bunch of guilt: http://www.ewtn.com/vnews/getstory.asp?number=4324

: Have you revealed/hidden/manipulated/interpreted any revelations lately?
What's your favorite mystical secret? Do you number your secrets? Are they
easily digitized? Are your deities digital/analog/virtual/ephemeral/muddy?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# Leader's Tapes with Astrologer Released. PARIS (Reuters) Taped recordings
  of some of the late French President Francois Mitterrand's consultations
  with his favorite astrologer were released by her on Saturday.
  http://news.excite.com/news/r/000626/09/odd-mitterrand-dc
@ View your Horoscope: http://www.indiaexpress.com/horsocope/

# A Maharishi follower sued his guru because he never learned how to fly!
  Maharishi International University promised him he would, the student
  claimed. Besides, he said, the twice-daily practice of chanting did not
  reverse the aging process or bring him "the perfect state of life." Jury
  awarded him $137,890. http://www.nationalenquirer.com/stories/11943.html

# Psychic's mission: Bring the world of the dead to life. Litany Burns sees
  dead people. "And they see me," she says. "I'm the person who gets invited
  to haunted houses. I talk to dead people ... and they talk back." What do
  they say? Find out: http://detnews.com/2000/features/0006/22/e07-79323.htm

: Have you talked/eaten/fornicated/prayed with the living/dead/other lately?
Is your life perfect/forecast/taped/revised/miserable? D'ya seek advise on
paranormal matters? D'ya take that advise? Is it expensive/actionable/plain?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# The UFO Cover-up. Almost from the moment that Kenneth Arnold made his UFO
  report in June 1947, we, in the UFO community have been suggesting there
  was a coverup. Today we have the documentation to prove that there was a
  secret Air Force investigation of UFOs, that information was concealed by
  various Air Force and civilian agencies, and that a cover-up, in one form
  or another existed. http://www.destinationspace.net/ufo/randle/coverup.asp

# Firmage-Sagan link - 'Project Voyager' flies - An Integrated Media
  Network: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m25-005.shtml
@ WHAT-IF GAME: "What if..." someone with a lot of money and a serious
  interest in UFOs decided that he could simply 'buy' any insider infor-
  mation he wanted to directly from the most well known researchers in
  the field? http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m26-006.shtml

: Have you (un)covered any UFOs lately? If UFO (un)coverups are games, what
are the rules? Does your conspiracy have strict protocols to run all phases
of your (un)coverup? D'ya have inside information? Does it want to be free?
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _

# 250 MARS PHOTOS SHOW SIGNS OF WATER http://www.earthfiles.com/earth153.htm
# DRILLING TECHNOLOGY FOR MARS IS IN THE WORKS; drill your own planet today:
  http://space.com/scienceastronomy/solarsystem/mars_drilling_000623.html
# Mars rover prototype tested in Nevada - BLACK ROCK SUMMIT, interplanetary
  driving school: www.infobeat.com/stories/cgi/story.cgi?id=2567636001-eb5

# Cydonian Imperative - Mars Missions and Extraterrestrial Artifacts:
  Where We Stand: http://www.ufomind.com/ufo/updates/2000/jun/m25-003.shtml
# Would-be astronaut patiently awaits date with space station - commander
  without a command: http://www.newshub.com/cgibin/rd.cgi?10020460

# NASA Reveals Emerging Technologies For Astrophysics -- advances in
  detectors play key role: http://unisci.com/storie

[CTRL] Fw: IMF on Sweden: more inequality needed!

[Robert F. Tatman]

- Original Message -
From: "Soren" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, June 25, 2000 11:48 PM
Subject: (50 Years) IMF on Sweden: more inequality needed!


> The following news story and brief analysis were posted on another
listserv.
> They concern the IMF's recent Article IV consultation with Sweden, that
is,
> the annual review of the economy performed by the IMF.  THe IMF does this
> with all member countries; it's just that since it has no power in the
> North, its recommendations are usually just noted and ignored (it's been
> telling the U.S. to raise interest rates for several years).  As Michael
> Pollak points out, the case of Sweden, one of the most economically
> comfortable countries on Earth, presents a good occasion for seeing just
> what the IMF's real agenda is, always and everywhere.  No amount of nice
> rhetoric will ever be able to obscure its hardcore philosophy 
>
> From: Michael Pollak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: IMF: Inequality is good
>
> [It's probably a blinding stroke of naivete on my part, but I was
> flabbergasted at how bald this IMF report is.  Everything is going
> swimmingly in Sweden right now, and they think it's a golden opportunity
> to shrink the welfare state because . . .well because improving people's
> welfare is bad on principle.  It "reduces the incentives to work and
> save." Meaning, I think, that if you're not terrified of being sick and
> old and poor or losing your job, you don't need to make or save as much
> money.  But what really floored me was that they said a "fundamental
> rigidity" is the "limited amount of wage differentiation."  Up until now
> I thought decreasing inequality was an absurdly low priority for the
> IMF.  But this seems to say they are actually *trying* to increase it!
> Normally there's some kind of obvious fault in the economy they can
> point to and assert that these things would fix.  But in this article it
> seems clear that even if everything were perfect they would still praise
> austerity and recommend cutting social services & weakening the safety
> net.  That's just
> what they're for, come hell or high water, and they just pretend it's
> got something to do with the crisis du jour.]
>
> [Okay.  I *said* I was being naive.]
>
> Financial Times ; 22-Jun-2000
>
> WORLD NEWS: EUROPE: Swedish tax cut urged to fuel expansion: IMF
>
> By CHRISTOPHER BROWN-HUMES and NICHOLAS GEORGE
>
> Sweden was told yesterday it must not waste a "golden opportunity" to
> lower its taxes sharply and sustain its economic expansion.
>
> The International Monetary Fund also highlighted a number of problems
> that it said were preventing the dynamism of the country's telecoms
> industry spreading to other parts of the economy.
>
> In a report on the country's economy, the fund said Sweden had no need
> to cut its debt any faster than already planned, adding that all further
> surpluses should be channelled into tax cuts.
>
> The report said: "There is a real risk that if not fully used for tax
> cuts, the initial gains for expenditure restraint would soon lead to
> policy slippages on current expenditure and possibly to political
> pressures for new expenditure programmes. Sweden would then have wasted
> a golden opportunity."
>
> The report was a reminder of the structural problems facing the country,
> despite the economic upswing and progress in cutting debt. Sweden could
> afford to cut taxes by the equivalent of 4 per cent of gross domestic
> product between 2001 and 2003, the IMF believes.
>
> "Notwithstanding the sharp reduction in the ratio of government
> expenditure to GDP in recent years, the role of government remains large
> in comparison with other industrial countries.
>
> "This is financed by numerous taxes which piled on top of each other
> considerably weaken and distort the incentives to work, save and invest.
>
>
> "Other prominent rigidities include the limited amount of wage
> differentiation and weak job search incentives."
>
> But the IMF praised Sweden's austerity measures in the 1990s.
>
> "The elimination of the long-term interest rate differential vis-a`-vis
> Germany from a peak exceeding 500 basis points in 1994 is a clear sign
> that Swedish macroeconomic policy is now fully credible."
>
> The fund predicts the Swedish economy will grow by nearly 4.5 per cent
> this year and 3.5 per cent in 2001, with unemployment falling below 4
> per cent next year.
>
> The IMF also praised the Swedish central bank for not raising interest
> rates too aggressively too early to choke off the boom. But it warned
> that a less accommodating stance would be needed soon.
>
> Central bank to drop cheap loans for directors
>
> The Swedish central bank was yesterday forced to abandon its policy of
> giving its directors cheap loans after revelations of the practice
> prompted sharp criticism from politicians and newspapers, writes
> Nicholas George in Stockholm.
>
> The bank's directors, who set the countr

[CTRL] 'Harmful' offshore tax havens named by OECD

[Kris Millegan]

from:
http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3DWFT5X9C&live=
true&useoverridetemplate=ZZZFKOXOA0C&tagid=V1CYA0C&subheading=financial%20
services
Click Here: http://news.ft.com/ft/gx.cgi/ftc?pagename=View&c=Article&cid=FT3DWFT5X9C
&live=true&useoverridetemplate=ZZZFKOXOA0C&tagid=V1CYA0C&subheading=financ
ial%20services">FT.com | News and Analysis | World Article
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financial services


'Harmful' offshore tax havens named by OECD
By Christopher Adams and Michael Peel
Published: June 25 2000 20:24GMT | Last Updated: June 25 2000 22:16GMT


The world's big economies will on Monday "name and shame" 35 offshore
financial centres, ranging from the US Virgin Islands to Monaco and
Liechtenstein, as tax havens that harm trade and investment flows.

A draft version of the list, obtained by the Financial Times, will be the
central plank of a report to be published by the Organisation for Economic
Co-operation and Development this week.
The OECD will tell the centres that unless they co-operate with a global
crackdown on tax evasion, they risk incurring economic sanctions.

They will be given a year to commit to reform. If they fail to do so, OECD
member states will consider abrogating tax treaties allowing companies to
write off tax paid in the territories.
Several centres reacted angrily to their inclusion and accused the OECD of
failing to consult. Richard Pratt, director-general of the financial services
commission of Jersey, Channel Islands, said the Paris-based organisation had
"culled the names from airline magazines". He said: "They haven't done a full
evaluation exercise or told us why we've failed."

But other centres were relaxed. "The process has changed over the last three
or four months," said a government official from one on the list. "The OECD
have taken a much more constructive line and a much more conciliatory line."

The jurisdictions identified as tax havens are: Anguilla; Andorra; Antigua;
Aruba; the Bahamas; Bahrain; Barbados; Belize; the British Virgin Islands;
the Channel Islands of Guernsey, Sark and Alderney; the Cook Islands;
Dominica; Gibraltar; Grenada; Isle of Man; Jersey; Liberia; Liechtenstein;
Maldives; Marshall Islands; Monaco; Montserrat; Nauru; Netherlands Antilles;
Niue; Panama; St. Kitts and Nevis; St. Lucia; St. Vincent; Seychelles; Tonga;
Turks and Caicos; US Virgin Islands; Vanuatu; Western Samoa.

Six centres originally threatened with inclusion will not appear. Bermuda,
the Cayman Islands, Cyprus, Malta, Mauritius and San Marino pledged earlier
this week to co-operate.



more from ft.com
Taskforce hits at money launderers
Six havens to join OECD tax evasion crackdown
Liechtenstein bridles at threat of bank blacklist
Pledge on transparency
Inquiry leads to raid on bank in tax haven
Taxing time for havens


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[CTRL] NSA OVERHAULS CORPORATE STRUCTURE IN EFFORT TO IMPROVE OPERATIONS

[Kris Millegan]

from:
http://cryptome.org/nsa-redo.htm
Click Here: http://cryptome.org/nsa-redo.htm">NSA Overhauls
Corporate Structure
-
Inside the Air Force, June 23, 2000

Hayden creates new offices, plans to hire acquisition chief


NSA OVERHAULS CORPORATE STRUCTURE IN EFFORT TO IMPROVE OPERATIONS

Richard Lardner
The National Security Agency has revamped its corporate hierarchy, creating
several posts that defense officials believe will substantially improve
business operations and allow the signals intelligence organization to better
manage its highly stressed information processing infrastructure.

In a series of unpublicized moves made during the past six months, NSA
Director Lt. Gen. Michael Hayden has moved key management support, business
and budget functions from the Ft. Meade, MD-based agency's various
directorates into newly established offices. The goal is to allow the
directorates to concentrate on their day-to-day assignments, which range from
information assurance to signals intelligence operations to technology
development, while eliminating bureaucratic bottlenecks that prevent the
agency from running at peak efficiency.

"There is a fiscal component to recovery. There is a technological component
to recovery. But the proximate and the underlying cause of this is how we do
business," Hayden said during a June 13 interview.

Below Hayden, NSA now features a chief financial manager, a chief information
officer, a senior acquisition executive and a transformation office, which is
responsible for requirements and systems engineering. A subset of the CIO
shop is a division called Information Technology Infrastructure Services that
has the authority to reject operational requirements if they would overwhelm
the agency's IT infrastructure.

NSA handles the nation's signals intelligence duties and provides security
for classified information systems. Hayden's reshaping comes as the
intelligence oversight committees on Capitol Hill have, once again, expressed
concern the agency is relying on antiquated business methods and equipment to
deal with a world in which technological innovation is moving at a breakneck
pace. Of major concern is the agency's IT infrastructure, an aging collection
of intelligence processing and distribution systems. In January, a software
anomaly caused serious problems with the systems and compromised NSA's
operations for nearly three days.

Additionally, NSA has been criticized by lawmakers for employing a weak
budgeting system, a preference for internal solutions to technical
challenges, and a compartmented approach to capability development that has
led to what the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, in May
1998, referred to as the "bubbling up" of disparate ideas and programs.
The establishment of a chief financial manager's office -- first reported by
Inside the Air Force last December and formally announced by NSA in early
January -- was necessary because NSA was "making decisions that were more
based on intuition and instinct rather than hard fiscal data," Hayden told ITA
F.

"It wasn't a question of ethics, or legalities -- we could account for every
penny," he said. "We were very good at that. What we couldn't do [was] use
money as a management tool.

"I knew exactly how much activity X cost. I knew when we spent the money, I
knew what it cost, I knew when it was appropriated. But we didn't really have
the ability to aggregate all activity Xs and portray them to the agency as,
'Hey, by the way, do you realize this is what activity X cost you around the
world and do you really want to be spending [this] percentage of your budget
on activity X as opposed to activity Y?' We couldn't do that. We couldn't
pull the thread and aggregate what it was we were doing as an enterprise in
order to make strategic decisions on direction.

"You're never able to answer the question 'How much does a pound of SIGINT
really cost?' But you can get better than where we were, which is, 'I'm not
so sure what we get out of activity X globally but I know activity X at that
location costs this amount of money.' You can run an enterprise on that, but
you can't strategize an enterprise on that. You can't make judgments about
strategic direction based on that kind of information."

Hayden hired Beverly Wright to fill the chief financial manager's slot (ITAF,
Dec. 10, 1999, p1). An "outside" hire, Wright spent 26 years in the financial
management industry before coming to NSA. She reports directly to Hayden and
serves on his executive leadership team. "She owns all the financial managers
on campus," Hayden noted.

Since coming to NSA, Wright has been working to set up a budget system that
defines various activities so each NSA directorate has a clear understanding
of how costs are being aggregated. "What's been done to date . . . almost has
been done by hand," Hayden said. "We don't have the financial management
system to do that automatically."

The acquisition executive has yet to be hired

[CTRL] OEN 6/26/00

[Kris Millegan]

from:
http://www.aci.net/kalliste/
Click Here: http://www.aci.net/kalliste/">The Home Page of J. Orlin
Grabbe
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More FBI Snake Oil


Merchants Beware! The CyberCops Are Coming!


First they sell you the problem. Then they sell you the solution.

WASHINGTON, D.C. (CBS.MW) - It’s been almost two months since the launch of
the federal government’s Internet Fraud Complaint Center, and officials don’t
know much more about e-crime than they did then.

This, however, they do know: the problem is growing every day, and merchants
rather than consumers have the most to fear from e-criminals.

To date, the Federal Bureau of Investigations has not been able to assign a
total dollar amount to e-crime. But there are other important figures.

Forrester Research (FORR: news, msgs) reported in April that e-commerce would
reach $6.9 trillion by 2004. The number of Net shoppers is soaring. Every
second of every day, four new people log onto the Web, according to the FBI’s
Bob Pocica.

Last year, consumers lost more than $3.2 million to Internet fraud, a 38
percent increase, according to the National Consumers League.

And domestic fraud of Internet merchants in 1999 topped $1.4 billion,
accounting for 11 percent of all dollar transactions. The figure for Internet
business fraud is also 10.5 percent higher than that of its bricks-and-mortar
counterparts, said Paul Fichtman, chairman of the Internet Fraud Council ,
which was founded to gather research and provide prevention tips to companies
and consumers.

E-personations: Beware of Hoover in Drag

Web crime is expected to grow at the rate of the Internet or about 80 percent
this year alone, Fichtman said. What’s more, the activity is quite
concentrated.

“Virtually all of the fraud being perpetuated is identity fraud,” Fichtman
said. “It’s very easy for professional fraudsters to perpetuate these
schemes. They’re looking for things that can easily be turned into cash.”

Many times, the criminals use fraudulent identities to buy high cost goods
they can then sell on the street. Or they create phony brokerage accounts to
launder money, Fichtman said. The way they do this is by stealing credit card
numbers by skimming information off magnetic strips or stealing bills from
mailboxes or by using software that generates credit card numbers.

However, there has not been a documented case of a consumer’s identity being
stolen from an encrypted transaction over the Web, Fichtman noted. He advises
consumers to avoid providing financial information over the telephone.

“The real risk to consumers today is identity theft, which is difficult to
get fixed but is more of a nuisance risk,” Fichtman said. “Merchants,
however, are at an extreme risk.”

A lot of the crime could be prevented with good-sense business practices such
as managing terminated employees properly or careful screening of new
employees. There’s also technology that authenticates users, but many
companies don’t take advantage of it, Fichtman said.

“Many online merchants don’t understand the risk of conducting transactions
on the Internet,” Fichtman said. “They don’t understand that if they get a
fraudulent charge-back, they’re out the merchandise and the money. I would
say that less than 20 percent of companies are truly protecting themselves
today.”

“The scary thing about the Internet is that it’s so fast, and fraudsters can
charge a tremendous amount of money in a small time. As bad as this is, the
Internet constituted only 0.6 percent of all commerce in 1999.”

In conjunction with the National White Collar Crime Center and the Department
of Justice, the Federal Bureau of Investigation launched the Internet Fraud
Complaint Center on May 8. The Web site was designed to serve as a
clearinghouse for complaints so that data could be centralized and then
farmed out to the appropriate law enforcement authorities.

“You can’t be proactive until you know what the problems are,” the FBI’s Bob
Pocica told CBS.MarketWatch.com. “You have to have a place to receive
complaints, and as time progresses, more and more cases will be referred.
Then we can identify crime trends and become proactive with local law
enforcement.”

So far, the Web site is receiving about 1,200 complaints a week, Pocica said.

Data gathered at the Web site, http://www.ifccfbi.gov/, not only benefits law
enforcement in the effort to crack down on crime, it will also serve as an
educational tool.

Lack of knowledge about e-crime can be the most formidable enemy, Fichtman
said.
CBS Market Watch, June 25, 2000
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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Openness Victory

[Prudence L. Kuhn]

In a message dated 06/22/2000 1:23:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< It was not until today that APBnews.com finally received copies of the
 reports.  I am pleased to report that it has now begun to post them online.
 So far the financial disclosure reports for the nine Supreme Court Justices
 are available at >>

Interesting isn't it?  I was really surprised that the honorary membership in
The University Club is worth one amount to Judges Rehnquist and Thomas and
much, much less to Judge Scalia.  Is the fee negotiable depending on use or
opinion?  Prudy

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Re: [CTRL] Talmud Exposed

[Ynr Chyldz Wyld]

From: "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   June - surely I've seen you jump in with tenebroust and others in
saying
> the Bible is just so much non-historical manipulative hooey.

I have never said the Bible is 'manipulative hooey'.  I haven't even
said it is 'non-historical', since some parts are indeed historical.

What I've said is that the Bible was written by men, and undergone
translation upon translation...

And each hand that has touched it has put its own prejudices into it,
picking and choosing those parts that fit their own views, tossing out
those that didn't, and actually adding parts where it was deemed
necessary.  All because the writers wished to make a point.

So the Bible can't be used as a LITERAL treatise.  It's like reading an
old textbook that tells about George Washington as a boy chopping down
his father's cherry tree.  Did Washington actually do that?  Probably
not.  Doesn't change the fact that George Washington was an actual
person.  And perhaps he was a very honest person, which the apocryphal
cherry tree tale implies.  So there is a SUBJECTIVE truth to the tale,
while there is no OBJECTIVE truth to it.

The Bible can be used as a guide for further research, nothing more.



> Maybe the
> Bible does say that Christ came to die for our sins - but it says a
lot of
> stuff that doesn't make sense, much of which has been altered over
the
> centuries for whatever purposes.

My point exactly.  But the whole PREMISE of the Christian religion is
that Christ was a sacrifice to atone for our collective sins; His life
is meaningless otherwise, as would be the religion founded on it.


> You've got a logical mind - how can one
> person atone for the sins of another?  It just doesn't make sense.

The same way sacrificing a sheep or a cow did.  Perhaps it doesn't make
sense to you, but animal sacrifice was an integral part of Jewish
religion at the time of Christ.  It was done to atone for one's sins.

Christ manifested on Earth so that he could be the ultimate sacrifice,
the sacrifice to end all sacrifices.  He took on the collective sins of
the world and allowed himself to be sacrificed, thereby washing all the
sins away.

If it doesn't make sense to you, so be it.  You're not alone.  I'm only
stating what the premise of the religion is.


> When we
> atone, we are experiencing and learning on a deep level.  Certainly
that is
> not something one can do for another.

One can if one is the Son of God, a metaphysical being.  According to
Christianity, washing yourself in the blood of The Lamb -- accepting
Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior -- washes away all of your sins.


>   I don't even know what it is to be a Christian.

Obviously, else you wouldn't have a problem with the concept of Jesus
having died for our sins...


> I think I would probably
> have admired Christ very much, if he did exist.  I would have been
really
> pissed that he was killed, if that's all true.  But no matter who he
was, he
> could not be my path to myself.

But the whole concept of 'my path to myself' in non-Christian.
According to Christianity, the only way to true enlightenment is thru
Jesus.


June

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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Ritalin Raising Kids To Be Drug Addicts?

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--- ThePiedPiper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> because the schools clients are not the parents or the kids
> add up the number of schools that sell their soda concessions
> even at the elementary level I believe.
> When I was in high school you bought stuff for booster club
> now it is soda and candy.  SUGAR and then covered up with
> drugs.

Good point, Piper, I forgot about this. The schools in my town do have
soda machines in plain view of the students. We had them when I was in
H.S., but they were in a hallway that was gated off until after lunch.


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Re: [CTRL] Fwd: Is Ritalin Raising Kids To Be Drug Addicts?

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--- "Samantha L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  How does having many students with an ADHD diagnosis bring more
> money to
> the schools?  Do they get a higher per diem per child for ADHD?  Is
> it really
> classified as a disability?  I guess so..

You got it. Individual states vary as to how much they consider ADHD
children qualified for "special ed." But the fact that it was suggested
to me when my oldest son (now 7) was TWENTY MONTHS OLD, to put him on
Ritalin (by an ex-friend who is a public school teacher) was a major
factor in my decision to home school. I live in northern New Jersey,
where pharmaceutical companies are a big part of the local economy:
thousands of jobs, millions of dollars in everything from property
taxes to the retail sector (most are located convenient to lunch-hour
shopping) to the service sector (restaurants, CPAs), and I'm sure that
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ADHD and put them on Ritalin and other mind-warping drugs-- after all,
in New Jersey, the term "corrupt politician" is redundant. 

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[CTRL] Reagan Catholic Asset Via Gambino?

[lloyd]

..

A-albionic Research Weekly Up-date of 6-25-2000
^^^

Reprint from A-albionic Quarterly Journal, the _Project_:

Fall 1988, Volume V Number 4

Subject:  Reagan Catholic Asset Via Gambino?

Dark Victory
By Dan E. Moldea

When the first Reagan inaugural was hosted by Sinatra, the long-time
Gambino Hollywood asset many conspiracy theorists "got the message" as, no
doubt, did some of Reagan's more astute "Eastern Establishment" enemies!
The more cautious should read Moldea's Dark Victory for the details.
Apparently, Reagan, as a Music Corporation of America (MCA) employee,
achieved in Hollywood for Gambino via the Actor's Guild what "Bugsy"
Siegel had attempted through strong arm tactics for the Luciano/Lansky
combine.

Perhaps the Godfather II interspersion of scenes from Catholic Church
ritual and "Gambino" gangland murders were also meant to be a message
other than that of hypocrisy assumed by most viewers. Reagan's conversion
to Buckleyite conservatism, his epochal diplomatic recognition of the
Vatican, the Lexalt and Donovan mafia connection, the MCA dominated post
WWII TV fare of heroic personal violence, why Taylor Caldwell's right-wing
anti-banker novels made TV, Reagan's years as GE ideological spokesman,
NBC right-ward tilt after buy-out by GE, and much, much more begin to make
sense.

Also making sense from the Project pointof-view was the John Gotti
(Gambino) indictments that flowed from the Department of Justice as Reagan
lost influence via the Bush manipulated Iran-Contra affair, various
"sleaze factor" exposes, and the mounting deficit.

The book is a worth the price just for the picture of Sinatra, "the
Godfather" Gambino, "the Weasel" Fratiano, "nerves" Fusco, DePalma, etc.
in a happy shoulder-hugging backstage embrace.


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[CTRL] FW: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray

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From: Alex Constantine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: FW: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray
Date: Tuesday, June 20, 2000 8:59 PM


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Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 16:24:43 -0700
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Subject: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray

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>Subject: Ted Kacyznski, brainwashed by OSS Psychiatrist Henry A. Murray
>
>see: OSS Psychiatrist  Henry A. Murray
>"Multiform Assessments of Personality Development Among Gifted College Men,
>1941-1965," by Henry A. Murray
>Henry A. Murray's abstract of the study to which he subjected Theodore
>Kaczynski and other Harvard students. Posted by the Henry A. Murray
>Research Center of the Radcliffe Institute for Advanced Study.
>
>ATLANTIC MONTHLY
>http://www.theatlantic.com/cgi-bin/o/issues/2000/06/chase.htm
>
>J U N E  2 0 0 0
>Alston Chase is the author of Playing God in Yellowstone (1986) and In a
>Dark Wood (1995). He is at work on a book about Theodore Kaczynski.
>
>
>In the fall of 1958 Theodore Kaczynski, a brilliant but vulnerable boy of
>sixteen, entered Harvard College. There he encountered a prevailing
>intellectual atmosphere of anti-technological despair. There, also, he was
>deceived into subjecting himself to a series of purposely brutalizing
>psychological experiments -- experiments that may have confirmed his
>still-forming belief in the evil of science. Was the Unabomber born at
>Harvard? A look inside the files
>
>by Alston Chase
>
>(The online version of this article appears in four parts. Click here to go
>to part two, part three, or part four.)
>
>
>IKE many Harvard alumni, I sometimes wander the neighborhood
>when I return to Cambridge, reminiscing about the old days and musing on
>how different my life has been from what I hoped and expected then. On a
>trip there last fall I found myself a few blocks north of Harvard Yard, on
>Divinity Avenue. Near the end of this dead-end street sits the Peabody
>Museum -- a giant Victorian structure attached to the Botanical Museum,
>where my mother had taken me as a young boy, in 1943, to view the
>spectacular exhibit of glass flowers. These left such a vivid impression
>that a decade later my recollection of them inspired me, then a senior in
>high school, to apply to Harvard.
>
>This time my return was prompted not by nostalgia but by curiosity. No. 7
>Divinity Avenue is a modern multi-story academic building today, housing
>the university's Department of Molecular and Cellular Biology. In 1959 a
>comfortable old house stood on the site. Known as the Annex, it served as a
>laboratory in which staff members of the Department of Social Relations
>conducted research on human subjects. There, from the fall of 1959 through
>the spring of 1962, Harvard psychologists, led by Henry A. Murray,
>conducted a disturbing and what would now be seen as ethically indefensible
>experiment on twenty-two undergraduates. To preserve the anonymity of these
>student guinea pigs, experimenters referred to individuals by code name
>only. One of these students, whom they dubbed "Lawful," was Theodore John
>Kaczynski, who would one day be known as the Unabomber, and who would later
>mail or deliver sixteen package bombs to scientists, academicians, and
>others over seventeen years, killing three people and injuring twenty-three.
>
>HAD a special interest in Kaczynski. For many years he and I
>had lived parallel lives to some degree. Both of us had attended public
>high schools and had then gone on to Harvard, from which I graduated in
>1957, he in 1962. At Harvard we took many of the same courses from the same
>professors. We were both graduate students and assistant professors in the
>1960s. I studied at Oxford and received a Ph.D. in philosophy from
>Princeton before joining the faculty at Ohio State and later serving as
>chairman of the Department of Philosophy at Macalester College, in
>Minnesota. Kaczynski earned a Ph.D. in mathematics at the University of
>Michigan in 1967 and then joined the Berkeley Department of Mathematics as
>an instructor. In the early 1970s, at roughly the same time, we separately
>fled civilization to the Montana wilderness.
>
>In 1971 Kaczynski moved to Great Falls, Montana; that summer he began
>building a cabin near the town of Lincoln, eighty miles southwest of Great
>Falls, on a lot he and his brother, David, had bought. In 1972 my wife and
>I bought an old homestead fifty-five miles south of Great Falls. Three
>years later we gave up our teaching jobs to live in Montana full-time. Our
>place had neither telephone nor electricity; it was ten miles from th

[CTRL] Sheikh Yamani predicts price crash as age of oil ends

[David Sutherland]

ISSUE 1857
Sunday 25 June 2000

Sheikh Yamani predicts price crash as age of oil ends
By Mary Fagan, Deputy City Editor

Farewell to riches of the earth

SHEIKH YAMANI, the former Saudi oil minister, has told The
Telegraph that he expects a cataclysmic crash in the price
of oil in the next five years.

In an unprecedented personal interview, Sheikh Yamani also
predicts that, within a few decades, vast reserves of oil
will lie unwanted and the "oil age" will come to an end.

In an interview with Gyles Brandreth, he says: "Thirty
years from now there will be a huge amount of oil - and no
buyers. Oil will be left in the ground. The Stone Age came
to an end, not because we had a lack of stones, and the oil
age will come to an end not because we have a lack of oil."

Sheikh Yamani, who was Saudi Arabia's oil minister from
1962 to 1986 and is now in charge of an energy consultancy,
became the public face of the revolutionary oil policy that
altered the balance of world power in the early Seventies.

He predicts that a combination of recent oil discoveries,
the advance of new technology, and heavy investment in
exploration and production will all lead to a collapse in
the price of crude. He says: "I have no illusion - I am
positive there will be some time in the future a crash in
the price of oil. I can tell you with a degree of
confidence that after five years there will be a sharp drop
in the price of oil."

Fuel-cell motor technology - which can produce electricity
by combining hydrogen from a variety of fuels with oxygen
from the air - will have a dramatic impact on the oil
market, he predicts. "This is coming before the end of the
decade and will cut gasoline consumption by almost 100 per
cent. Imagine a country like the United States, the largest
consuming nation, where more than 50 per cent of their
consumption is gasoline. If you eliminate that, what will
happen?" Saudi Arabia, he says, "will have serious economic
difficulties".

His remarks follow last week's agreement by the
Organisation of Petroleum Exporting Countries - in which
Saudi Arabia is the dominant force - to a marginal rise in
production of 708,000 barrels a day in response to mounting
concern in the US and other major consuming countries over
the high price of oil. Prices per barrel have been hovering
at around $30, compared with $10 at the beginning of last
year. But industry experts have given warning that Opec's
latest production increase will not be enough to ease the
price.

In the interview, Sheikh Yamani forecasts that prices will
stay high temporarily because of demand in the US and parts
of Asia. But he argues that this price obscures the likely
long-term effect of "huge" recent discoveries in regions
such as the Caspian Sea, Yemen, Egypt and Africa. He also
predicts that Iraq, which is capable of producing 6.5
million barrels a day, will become a bigger supplier before
long.

He says: "On the supply side it is easy to find oil and
produce it, and on the demand side there are so many new
technologies, especially when it comes to automobiles."
Yamani believes that automobile engine technologies
including fuel cells - which can produce electricity by
combining hydrogen from a variety of fuels with oxygen from
the air - will drastically reduce oil consumption and that,
in the longer term, no one will need oil.

His views reflect those of many in the industry, although
few would go so far as to predict an end to the use of oil.
Vincent Cable, a former chief economist at Shell and now
industry spokesman for the Liberal Democrats, said: "People
in the industry would not be surprised by a vision of the
future with relatively weak prices, but punctuated by
occasional price shocks."

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[CTRL] ' .... "endorsed perversion," ....' [Topsham, Vermont]

[Bard]

 Sunday, June 25, 2000

Topsham clerk firm against civil unions
By HEATHER STEPHENSON Staff Writer

Calling them "endorsed perversion," the Topsham town clerk says she will not
personally issue civil-union licenses to same-sex couples and she is asking
residents whether the town should defy state law by not making the licenses
available at all.

The law, which goes into effect July 1, states that if a town clerk does not
want to issue the licenses he or she must at least appoint someone else to
do so.

In a memo sent on town letterhead to every Topsham household earlier this
month, Town Clerk Juanita Claflin tells voters she will not issue the
licenses and asks if they believe she should defy the law, resign or appoint
a willing assistant to deal with the paperwork. Most of the responses so far
have urged defiance of the law, Claflin said Saturday, but she has not
decided whether to risk lawsuits and penalties by following the
townspeople's wishes.

"I still have to make that absolute final decision," she said. She has given
townspeople until Monday to respond to her letter. Then she will meet with
the selectboard and possibly hold a public meeting to tell residents about
the potential consequences of defying the law.

"I made the commitment to the people that I would uphold what they said,"
she added. "If they're still of that opinion (after being informed of the
consequences), I'll take my licks."

The civil unions law, passed by the Legislature this spring, conveys most of
the benefits and responsibilities of marriage to committed same-sex couples.
The Legislature considered the measure after the state Supreme Court ruled
that same-sex couples had a constitutional right to benefits equal to those
granted to married couples.

Opponents are seeking a preliminary court injunction to block the new law.
At least one other town clerk, in Tunbridge, has resigned over the issue. In
Waterbury, the town clerk and assistant town clerk also resigned recently,
citing unspecified personal reasons and an effective date of July 1.

According to an informal opinion from the attorney general's office, a
person who is wrongfully denied a civil union license could sue the clerk
and/or the town, seeking issuance of the license and compensatory and
punitive damages.

The aggrieved person could also ask the attorney general's office to go to
court to compel compliance with the law. The Human Rights Commission could
initiate an enforcement action under the state's public accommodations law,
which bars discrimination on the basis of sex or sexual orientation in
places of public accommodation.

Criminal penalties also could be pursued, but probably would not be,
according to the attorney general's office.

Claflin said she had received 67 responses to her letter urging the town to
refuse to issue civil union licenses and see what happens.

Twelve respondents said the clerk should resign and the selectboard should
appoint one who will obey the law, and 11 respondents said a volunteer
assistant should be appointed to issue the licenses.

Claflin said the letter was sent to more than 200 households. The town has
615 voters on its checklist.

Claflin's opposition to civil unions has been no secret since she was
elected in March. When she was sworn in, she inserted the phrase "except to
sell civil union licenses" into her oath of office. At the time Claflin
thought the bill, then being debated, would not pass, she says in her
letter.

"Well, I was wrong … the unthinkable did become law …," she writes. "I stand
firm and unwavering in my commitment to refuse to be a party to this
endorsed perversion based on my Constitutional Rights and personal belief."

William Dalton, deputy secretary of state, said Friday that nothing in
Vermont law allows "modification of the oath" by public officials. But he
pointed out that the civil unions law allows clerks to retain or appoint
assistants to deal with civil unions paperwork.

Claflin said an assistant in Topsham, who she recommends could be available
to process civil union paperwork for one hour a month, would have to be a
volunteer or be paid separately by the selectboard.

"I will not subsidize any salary from my current pay," she writes in her
letter.

On Saturday, she suggested that finding an assistant might be prudent
despite her opposition to the law. "For the good of the town," she said, "I
think that may have to be a possibility."
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/forum/skyline.htm

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[CTRL] Astrologist releases taped converations with Mitterrand

[David Sutherland]

Saturday, June 24 10:39 PM SGT

Astrologist releases taped converations with Mitterrand

PARIS, June 24 (AFP) -

Astrologist Elizabeth Teissier, has decided to publish transcripts of taped
conversations she had with former French president Francois Mitterrand
between 1990 and 1995, she said Saturday.

"I want to respond to all kinds of insinuations which have cast doubt over
the
purely professional discussions between Mitterrand and myself, and to
demonstrate the importance of astrology in politics," she told AFP.

Mitterrand's daughter Mazarine Pingeot said Saturday that her father, who
served as president from 1981 to 1995, did not seek Teissier's advice to
make important decisions.

"It is all laughable and unimportant," she said.

The tapes reveal Teissier advising Mitterrand on such subjects as the
government of former prime minister Edith Cresson and the date of the
French referendum on the Maastricht Treaty, according to extracts printed by
pay-TV station Canal Plus in the written version of one of its programs.

Teissier claimed Mitterrand had called upon her often during the Gulf War,
she said, adding that the former president was keen to seek her advice
despite his skeptical and rational nature.

In one extract, Mitterrand asks for advice about the timing of a speech at
the
beginning of the conflict in January 1991:

"I am going to have to intervene. Which, according to you, is the best day?"
Mitterrand asks.

"In the coming days?" Teissier replies.

"Sunday, Monday, Tuesday," Mitterrand answers.

"I will have to look into that, because I can't tell you point-blank like
that,"
she says.

"Come and see me," he finishes.

Teissier said that she met Mitterrand in 1989 at his request, and that she
recorded their conversations from 1990 onwards with his consent.

"The idea of recording came to me very quickly, but with his permission, of
course. It was the only proof for me that it was all real," she said.

"After several meetings, I went to see him with my recorder. He was taken
aback. I told him it was for my grandchildren, and eventually to write a
book."

Teissier, who held her meetings with Mitterrand at the Elysee Palace except
in 1995, when their conversations took place on the telephone, had already
revealed the content of her interviews in a book published three years ago.

It was only after recent press speculation about their relationship that she
decided to publish the transcripts, she said.

The head of the Francois Mitterrand Institute, Jean-Louis Bianco, declined
to
comment on the revelations.

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