[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. 1. Frequency: several times an hour 2. Computer: Infrant ReadyNAS NV+w. 1GB mem 3. Network data Basement SB3 Signal Strength < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 2 : 0% < 40 : 177 : 32% < 50 : 373 : 68% # < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 0 : 0% < 80 : 0 : 0% < 90 : 0 : 0% < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 :0 : 0% max : 49.00 min : 28.00 avg : 41.014493 Control Connection < 1 : 556 :100% ## < 2 : 0 : 0% < 5 : 0 : 0% < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% >=20 :0 : 0% max : 0.00 min : 0.00 avg : 0.00 Network Test < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 0 : 0% < 40 : 0 : 0% < 50 : 0 : 0% < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 0 : 0% < 75 : 0 : 0% < 80 : 0 : 0% < 85 : 0 : 0% < 90 : 0 : 0% < 95 : 0 : 0% < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 : 1349 :100% ## max : 100.00 min : 100.00 avg : 100.00 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.100: Packets: Sent = 392, Received = 392, Lost = 0 (0% loss), Approximate route trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 1ms, Maximum = 30ms, Average = 2ms 3rd Floor SB3 Signal Strength < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 0 : 0% < 40 : 0 : 0% < 50 : 0 : 0% < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 132 : 21% ## < 80 : 299 : 47% ### < 90 : 202 : 32% ### < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 :0 : 0% max : 85.00 min : 64.00 avg : 73.67 Control Connection < 1 : 642 :100% ## < 2 : 0 : 0% < 5 : 0 : 0% < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% >=20 :0 : 0% max : 0.00 min : 0.00 avg : 0.00 Network test < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 0 : 0% < 40 : 0 : 0% < 50 : 0 : 0% < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 0 : 0% < 75 : 0 : 0% < 80 : 0 : 0% < 85 : 0 : 0% < 90 : 0 : 0% < 95 : 0 : 0% < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 : 792 :100% ## max : 100.00 min : 100.00 avg : 100.00 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.101: Packets: Sent = 394, Received = 394, Lost = 0% Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 17ms, Average = 1ms 1st Floor Transporter Signal Strength < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 0 : 0% < 40 : 0 : 0% < 50 : 0 : 0% < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 0 : 0% < 80 : 54 : 6% ## < 90 : 882 : 94% ### < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 :0 : 0% max : 87.00 min : 75.00 avg : 81.534188 Control Connection < 1 : 1205 :100% ## < 2 : 0 : 0% < 5 : 0 : 0% < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% >=20 :0 : 0% max : 0.00 min : 0.00 avg : 0.00 Network Test < 10 : 0 : 0% < 20 : 0 : 0% < 30 : 0 : 0% < 40 : 1 : 0% < 50 : 0 : 0% < 60 : 0 : 0% < 70 : 0 : 0% < 75 : 0 : 0% < 80 : 0 : 0% < 85 : 0 : 0% < 90 : 0 : 0% < 95 : 0 : 0% < 100 : 0 : 0% >=100 : 1183 :100% # max : 100.00 min : 30.851064 avg : 99.941597 Ping statistics for 192.168.1.105: Packets: Sent = 1457, Received = 1457, Lost = 0% Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds: Minimum = 0ms, Maximum = 104ms, Average = 1ms This pretty clearly shows my wireless network is as clean as a whistle. -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4 SB3-Rotel RB890-B&W Matrix 805 SB3-Pioneer VSX-49TXi-Mirage OM7+C2+R2 Eric Carroll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9293 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
Michael Herger;175203 Wrote: > > 1. *How do you select which music to play today ?* (Browse, Search, > > Random, Smart playlists, other?) > > 4. MIP based on some song I like (browse to song -> MIP)What type of things > are you using MIP for ? Is it just for playing similar songs to one that you like, or do you use it for other stuff than "similar songs" ? ceejay;175209 Wrote: > Some but not all of the music I listen to is classical: in this case > options 1 and 2 work but not very well due to SS's limitations in > dealing with classical music, and 3 is irrelevant.I only have a few albums of > classical music myself so I haven't really experienced any problems, but I guess the situation would be totaly different when the number of classical albums in a collection increases. Is the problem with Custom Browse that it feels to static to solve the classical music browsing or is the problem something else ? ceejay;175209 Wrote: > For nonclassical, what would improve my listening would be something > that made option 1 more effective at leading me to places I might be > missing. I suppose a list of the albums that haven't been played > recently would be a start (I know I could do that with your plugins!) > but it would be a pain if you got the same list every time, because > there is probably a good reason why those albums haven't been played! > Filtering this list by Genre would be good. > > Maybe what I want is "give me a list of 20 albums from this genre which > haven't been played recently and which weren't on the list offered last > time I asked this question"! I'll add it to the wish list, it should be quite easy to do with Custom Browse. I guess a menu like to following should solve your problem: Code: Random Albums by Genre Genres (There is already a Random Album menu available with Custom Browse but without the extra Genre level and without the not recently played filtering) Would it be a good idea to also have a "Not played within" level in the top of the menu so you can easily select to exclude albums played within last day, last week, last month or last year ? slimkid;175318 Wrote: > I find the 'drill down' method to be very usefull if one really wants to > actively listen to the music. Lately, I have asked a question about > obvious bug, where there's the arrow showing by the 'Year' tag, but > drill-down doesn't work. > > But then, I'm thinking that the drill-down might be implemented on any > tag where there's a posibility of having multiple items. Title is the > first that comes to mind. For example, I'm listening to 'Almost Blue' > performed by Diana Krall. Then I ask myself, let's see how does Elvis > Costello does the same song (for purely trivia reasons :) ). Then, I'd > like to compare it to more classical performance of Billy Holiday. So, > drill-down on title would make sense. Then, I want to hear why (or if) > is Karajan's vision of Requiem better than other's performances. Drill > down on track title or album should be able to take me to the another > track with the same name.I'm guessing that with 'drill down' you are talking > about the menu shown when going right when a track is displayed ? For example from the Now Playing screen ? I have been thinking myself a bit about this to and primary I would like to get ratings and tags handled by the Custom Tag plugin available there and also some support for the Multi Library plugin to limit the result to the active library. I'm thinking that it might be a good solution to make it a bit configurable in same way as Custom Browse where the user can decide what information he wants to be available in the 'drill down'. I'm not sure if its possible to hook into the 'drill down' menus, so I'm not sure whats possible to do yet. MY OWN HABITS Personally I have a few smart playlists in SQL playlist that I play music with. Some only inludes high rated tracks, other includes everything but a few bad artists/albums and low rated tracks. Occasionally when I am listing I like to listen to a specific song. I then browse to that song with the browse menu and hold add down to insert it as the next song in the current playlist. The big improvement for me I think would be to be able to use the SqueezeBox when deciding which music to purchase. Today I often do this by browsing Allmusic.com, Amazon.com and similar sites and listen to their 30 seconds preview. I often use their different types of similarity/follower statistics when deciding what to preview. The ratings and reviews on Allmusic is also sometimes helfull, but thats used more like a way to decide if an artist is of interest or not when I have already found it. I also sometimes use the Amazon.com "customer has also bought this" statistics. SUMMARY SO FAR By reading all posters comments so far it seems like most people use the "browse" mechanism as primary tool for selecting what to play. If I am interpreting this correc
Re: [slim] Take a hint from iPod interface?
One thing I like in the (really) simple Nano user interface is that when scrolling rapidly through a long list it switches from displaying each individual item to displaying the first letter of the sorted items. It's something I once tried to do in MusicInfoSCR. The problem (with my implementation) was, that the large letter will partially be overwritten by whatever should be displayed on the top line, making it very flickery and hard to read. But it's still somewhere in the back of my head... BTW: I'm not sure I saw this on an iPod, but somewhere else as well. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] RadioIO Failure
Since yesterday I have not been able to listen to any RadioIO channel on any of my 3 versions of slimserver, 6.5.2, 6.5.1 and 6.3.1. using either SB3 or softsqueeze. RadioIO fails from Mypicks, and the RadioIO menu entries. I get "problem: can't connect to server for:" error message on the player. That said, RadioIO works OK using SN, and the RadioIO web page. What has changed? This worked up to yesterday. I have double checked username password, but as I am using 3 different versions of SS on 3 different platforms, I suspect the problem is RadioIO Anyone else experienced similar problems - I am in UK. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] OpenSolaris
Does anyone have any expirence of running SlimServer on OpenSolaris I am thinking of rebuilding my server (currently WinXP) as OpenSolaris to make use of the ZFS RAID system. The server currently runs Apache and SlimServer and acts as large fileshare for DVDs Thanks in advance Gavin If you are not an intended recipient of this e-mail, please notify the sender, delete it and do not read, act upon, print, disclose, copy, retain or redistribute it. http://www.manfinancial.com/home/disclaimer.aspx?DisID=3E4F1 - for important additional terms relating to this e-mail. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Using debugging d_directstream got the following log when trying RadioIO: 2007-01-30 08:03:29.5938 ERROR: scanRemoteURL: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: 401 Service Unavailable. 2007-01-30 08:04:51.1343 ERROR: scanRemoteURL: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: 401 Service Unavailable. 2007-01-30 08:04:55.8165 ERROR: scanRemoteURL: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: 401 Service Unavailable. 2007-01-30 09:30:40.0581 ERROR: scanRemoteURL: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: 401 Service Unavailable. Any clues? -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
In order: - Browse by Album sorted by Artist/Year/Album. I just look around, and see what interests me, the same as I do with my CD collection and did with my vinyl collection before that. If I know what I'm after, I pretty much browse directly to it. - Search. If I _really_ know what I'm after, a search is the quickest way to get to it. I usually search by artist or album name and dig down from there if necessary. - Random play. My biggest problem with random play, though, is that you can't exclude genres. I'd like to play Jazz, for instance, but exclude tracks also tagged Christmas. Or play Blues, but exclude tracks also tagged Rock. What I know I'll never use: - Track ratings. - Track exclusions/filtering. - A system that decides what I want to hear from my library based upon what I've already listened to. The last one isn't to say that I may not use Rhapsody or something along those lines to discover new music, but for me things like that are more of a curiosity than anything else. The bit of experience that I have with things like Rhapsody hasn't impressed me very much. I like real live radio programs and knowledgeable disc jockeys for discovering new music that I'll listen to and buy. One of the biggest improvements to SlimServer for me would be more flexible browsing in the web interface, with more customizable information shown in the different browse modes and at the different levels. For instance I want to see track lengths and composers for tracks in the the album track listing. And additional album details like the band/albumartist, the genre(s), the album date and the total playing time when in that same view. More information could be supressed from the track lines, like the artist name if it's the same on all tracks, and of course, the album name that appears on every line. There's a lot of potential for the web interface, but it strikes me as being far too rigid in its presentation of data right now. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
2007-01-30 09:30:40.0581 ERROR: scanRemoteURL: Can't connect to remote server to retrieve playlist: 401 Service Unavailable. Any clues? RadioIO streams seem to be down. That's what the error message says. Not a lot you can do but wait (or check your internet connection?). -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
But they are OK if I use SN! They have been down for more than 24 hours now. Are you getting the same thing Michael? -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
But they are OK if I use SN! Ok, this is even more interesting. I wonder whether it's only the playlist you can't download or the stream itself. When you get it working in SN, can you push right with the remote control and note the URL on paper? You could then try to enter that url in the "Radio TuneIn" field in SlimServer (once locally connected). Or can you play eg. radioio://radioioECLECTIC.mp3 ? Or http://radioio.sc.llnwd.net:8475/ (RadioIO80s) Are you getting the same thing Michael? It's more than 24h since I listened to the above station. And I've taken it from my favorites. And right now I'm sitting behind a corporate firewall where I can't test. BTW: You don't have a firewall blocking ports? -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
I managed to get RadioIO to play through Slimserver by tuning in their windows media stream from the website. http://www.searchplay.com/radioioAcoustic/A1hi.asx which gives: mms://radioio-acoustic-hi.wm.llnwd.net/radioio_acoustic_hi Looks like the mp3 server is down; however, the same mp3 stream works OK from Squeeze Network. Does anyone know what the difference between SS and SN might be? -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175607 Wrote: > By reading all posters comments so far it seems like most people use the > "browse" mechanism as primary tool for selecting what to play. If I am > interpreting this correctly most of you know what you want to listen to > and you use Browse to find it. I've not posted before in this thread, so maybe I'm weird, but... If I know what I want to listen to, I'll use the Lazy Search plugin to get to it quickly. I tend to use Browse when I don't know what I want to listen to and feel like scanning through the list of artists. One last point (I've said this before in a thread many months ago). The biggest thing I miss is the ability to walk up to a wall rack full of CDs (stacked like books, spines showing), and scan it almost at random, flitting the eyes around until you happen on an album you feel like playing. I can't envisage any way of replicating that, short of having a huge plasma or LCD screen on the wall displaying an image of all the CD spines. Come to think of it, if that screen were touch-sensitive, you could then just tap the album you want played. That would be seriously cool - but stupidly expensive. -- cliveb Performers -> dozens of mixers and effects -> clipped/hypercompressed mastering -> you think a few extra ps of jitter matters? cliveb's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=348 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Copied the url used on SN (same as the one I normally use BTW) into SS web interface and it failed to play, got same message: can't connect to retrieve playlist. This is the same for radioIO mp3 streams of any quality hi, med or low. I've emailed RadioIO explaining the problem. Awaiting a response. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
cliveb;175648 Wrote: > Come to think of it, if that screen were touch-sensitive, you could then > just tap the album you want played. That would be seriously cool - but > stupidly expensive. You could do something similar using a web tablet and an interface a bit like the iTunes 3D cover art browsing modes. You can spot albums by art far faster when scanning and it also really does prompt listening to old albums far more than reading a list. I much prefer to pick music this way and I wish you could do it in Slim. I also like to pick music based on my mood, so for example I'll often pick a playlist that has acoustic guitar music on after work, or sometimes one with funk on it at the weekend. It's a little more finely defined than genre (R&B, World etc.) and my own playlists that I have created in iTunes. It would be nice to be able to have additional tags or data that gave some feel for tempo or mood of tracks. I guess products like mood logic do this, but I have never tried them. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
I browse by Artist 9 times out of 10. What would be REALLY nice would be the ability to customise the order of items in the 'Browse by' list. I never browse by Album so having that come up first is a real pain. Other than that I use MusicIP and LastFM, but I'm largely happy with how they work. The important thing is to get the very basic 'out of the box' usability right to ensure the product appeals to Jo Public and his / her significant other half. -- hunta hunta's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=333 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
hunta wrote: I browse by Artist 9 times out of 10. What would be REALLY nice would be the ability to customise the order of items in the 'Browse by' list. I never browse by Album so having that come up first is a real pain. I just took Browse out of the main menu, and replaced it with Browse Artists and Browse Genres, which are the only two browse types I ever use. I also remapped the Brightness remote key to Browse Artists. - Marc ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Thecus N5200 - fastest NAS available
andyman_sf;169381 Wrote: > I'm not sure if anybody here even cares but I managed to create my own > firmware for the N5200 to allow for ssh access on their latest firmware > (ver 1.00.05). In 1.00.05 they disabled ssh. Off topic question, have you managed to get slimserver running on your 5200? -- egd Linux and loving IT! egd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3425 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=25784 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Italian owners?
Ciao, mi ero scordato di dirvi che ne ho preso uno anche io a Gennaio... Me lo sono fatto spedire dagli USA. Però che strazio le spese di spedizione (con 14 di anticipo IVA etc.) ! Almeno, per fortuna, ho fatto in tempo a prendere la versione wired prima che sparisse ;-) -- Mario Mario's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8634 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Album thumbnail problem
MrSinatra;175441 Wrote: > so the album tag is the same for all... maybe thats why it works. > > i assume "discnumber" is a non-standard tag... what pgm does it and is > it automatic or manually set? > > also, are you positive some of your tags don't have the art embedded? I use mp3tag and the discnumber tag is manually set by me. Since the downloaded freedb information (by default) usually sets the album tag to something like "album (Disc 1)" and "album (Disc 2)", I have to edit the album name tage and add this discnumber for each one. Last night I did another multidisc album and I only needed one cover.jpg. However I did notice one thing. In album view, the thumbnail for the album (with one entry) is shown. Then when I click on that album, a larger image is shown and all of the tracks for both discs are shown. However, if I click on tracks from the first disc, the track information and album art are shown. If I click on tracks or the second disc, on the track information is shown, no album art. This makes sense since there is no album art in that directory. -- lemmy999 lemmy999's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9284 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32190 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
I've been experiencing the exact problem here in North Carolina. Began on Sunday, Jan. 28. -- Cotton76 Cotton76's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9947 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Good to know I'm not alone. Something has changed on RadioIO maybe permissions to access mp3 streams? I'm waiting for a response from RadioIO. Someone (Andy) at Slim Devices may wish to comment. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
DrNic;175320 Wrote: > MP3Gain will let you change the reference point (as said above) but his > only works when the value is written to the file (ie the track data is > altered - rather than reading a value from a tag). Otherwise the > analysis value stored to tag is like the value stored to tag from > Foobar's Replaygain... Playing around with the MP3Gain GUI, I don't know. I can alter the reference level at any time. It appears that all it needs is one "analysis" pass, either during that session or before. In the file it appears to store a value that it places in its "volume" column, the "track gain" column is simply a difference between the volume value and the reference value you type in at the top. So when you open the GUI, the volume and gain values pop up instantly for files that were previously analyzed. If there's been no analysis, there won't be any volume/gain values until they are analyzed. When you change the reference value, note that the gain values change instantly without rewriting the files (in fact they change as you type) - this is indicating it's an in-session instant calculation based on the difference between the new reference value and the volume value. But this new adjustment won't be saved in the file unless you do a track analysis again. The gain button operates the same but performs both the analysis and alters the volume bits. So the next time you view such files, you'll always see a gain of 0 because the file's volume has actually been altered to your reference value. It will only indicate anything other than 0 if your reference value isn't what you used when you altered the file's volume the first time. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Discrete Codes - Favourites
Are there any discrete IR codes for the Favorites. I want to be able to select the favorites using a programmable remote and a single button push. The remote programming I've know how to do, but access to the favorites menu is not clear to me. It could be a forest and a tree thing. Thanks in advance -- FRR FRR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9948 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
I'm a radioIO SoundPass subscriber and have been enjoying the hi-quality, 128bps stream through Slimserver until this problem popped up. -- Cotton76 Cotton76's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9947 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Particularly annoying if you are paying for the service ;-). Why not contact RadioIO from their website and tell them about it. They may start to take note with more reports. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
I think Ben is trying for a Pepper Pad developer discount! :-D I would rather have a Pepper Pad than a laptop if all I wanted it for was a SlimServer Super Remote. It's a bit cheaper (only a bit). Unfortunately the website doesn't say where/how to get one. I highly doubt they are available in Canada except through import, which can significantly raise the price well beyond simple currency conversion. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Converting to Apple Lossless
I would like to convert some of my music files in iTunes that are still Mp3, to Apple lossless. I converted a file or 2 and noticed that the original song was still in iTunes. Is this normal? I am concerned that if I "select all" to convert, then I will have thousands of duplicates. Any suggestions? thanks in advance -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Very interesting read - Vista Content Protection
"A Cost Analysis of Windows Vista Content Protection. The Vista Content Protection specification could very well constitute the longest suicide note in history" This has major implications for music over a PC, particularly for those who'd like to use a SB as an 'external soundcard.' http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html dave ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
that's normal, itunes does retain the original file. one way to do it might be to convert everything then simply arrange your library by file type by clicking on that heading, then select all the mp3s and then delete them - slightly clunky, but easy enough! -- bodajmac bodajmac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9573 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: iTunes Playlists not updated automatically
Just a silly question, are the play lists in question normal or intelligent play lists? I was having the same problem but came to the realization SlimServer was picking up my normal play lists and not the intelligent play lists. -- tedfroop tedfroop's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3011 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32183 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
Thanks. Yeah that is a little clunky, but I will give it a shot. Gerry -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175508 Wrote: > None taken. :) > > this article was VERY interesting. > http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527&st=0 > > it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not > just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same > volume in SB and all other MP3 players? is there somee downside to > this? That really is interesting. I always thought that MP3Gain = ReplayGain. From that article, it appears not! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
Mark Lanctot;175701 Wrote: > I think Ben is trying for a Pepper Pad developer discount! :-D > > I would rather have a Pepper Pad than a laptop if all I wanted it for > was a SlimServer Super Remote. It's a bit cheaper (only a bit). > > Unfortunately the website doesn't say where/how to get one. I highly > doubt they are available in Canada except through import, which can > significantly raise the price well beyond simple currency conversion. Ya know, it's funny you should say that, because the other day I looked at their "contact us" section of their website and the U.S. representation is about a 10 minute walk from my house in Minneapolis. I had visions of showing up unannounced and asking for a demo unit, just to see what they'd say. I'm not sure exactly how I'd build a hybrid IR/WiFi application, but it sure does sound promising (IR for immediate squeezebox response, WiFi for stuff like cover art, etc.). FWIW, there is a "buy now" link on the website, at least on the site that's served up to U.S. (there's clearly a IP-country redirect here). Amazon.com, Target.com, eCost.com, and jr.com all carry it. I think you're once again getting screwed because you're in the Great White North. Laptops as slimserver controllers typically are light years more responsive than any of these type of devices, and I don't even care that much about the size. But, they suffer in a couple of critical ways for me: 1. laptops make noise 2. I have two daughters < 3 years old that would like nothing better than to destroy anything in their path. To be honest, the slimserver IR remote works just fine for me, and that's what I use 95% of the time. I think I just like pursuing this stuff because the skin development has become a bit of a hobby for me. Plus, gadgets are fun. Just to play devil's advocate on myself though, if the PepperPad could be an effective remote for my audio receiver, squeezeboxen, xbmc, Comcast DVR, television, and home theater receiver, that would be pretty sweet. Kind of like that fancy Harmony remote that KDF linked to a few days ago, but with DIY appeal (twice the work! half the fun!) alrighty then, #!/ben cheers, #!/ben To be -- bklaas "the Nokia770 skin guy" bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175187 Wrote: > As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which > music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in > the future. These are great questions, thanks for asking! Note that probably 80% of my SlimServer use is listening to tracks at work via softsqueeze, which I've done for years. We have about 18K tracks and recently bought our first Squeezebox. Here's the most common ways we use the system: 1 - Search to artist, track or album and then do a MusicIP Mix based on that thing 2 - Browse New Music to get to the latest additions to the library, then either play the new disc or do a MusicIP Mix on the new disc. We also do Browse New Music to find the latest podcasts that a separate program has downloaded to our library. 2 - Go to the Plugins -> Podcast menu to listen to a podcast directly 3 - Streaming Radio in general, whether it be the Internet Radio section, last.fm, radio.io, Radio Keneally, etc. Also our local public radio station doesn't come in very well over the antenna, so we listen to them through their stream almost exclusively now. 4 - Search to album and play the whole album. Once in a while search to artist, select whole artist and randomize it (my son does that with Weird Al in particular) 5 - Recently I installed the SQL Playlists and have played with that. The big thing I did was make a very long query to make a "spouse-safe" playlist that only played artists she liked. I would prefer to use MusicIPs Filters function, but that requires the GUI and I'm running MusicIP headless on FreeBSD. Overall I would say that we mostly use "intelligent random" mixing + some targeted listening. We have pretty much abandoned true Random listening, as our collection is too big and too broad to enjoy it that way. Once in a while I like my Slayer to fade into my Puccini, but not often. I've had a blast with SQL Playlists (I'm a Data Architect IRL), but even the "spouse-safe", artist-constrained list proved to generally be too jarring on a track-by-track basis. You did a great job with that plug-in though; it's a blast. I've stated in other forums: I used Slimserver before MusicIP, but my enjoyment of my collection truly peaks with the combination of Slimserver for delivery and MusicIP for selection.The ultimate for me will be to have MusiciP/Slimserver mix my own tracks with Rhapsody tracks. That's nirvana, imo. All the music I've bought plus a tremendous rental catalog, intelligently mixed. Just got to get MusicIP to add more of the GUI functionality (namely filters and exclusions) to the headless version. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175508 Wrote: > None taken. :) > > this article was VERY interesting. > http://www.hydrogenaudio.org/forums/index.php?showtopic=24527&st=0 > > it leads me to wonder: why screw around with ReplayGain tags? Why not > just use MP3Gain to volume adjust the files so they play the same > volume in SB and all other MP3 players? is there somee downside to > this? That really is interesting. I always thought that MP3Gain = ReplayGain. From that article, it appears not! -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
if you're feeling flashy you could always create a smartplaylist for all items with file type mp3 and identify them that way :-) -- bodajmac bodajmac's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9573 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175187 Wrote: > As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which > music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in > the future. These are great questions, thanks for asking! Note that probably 80% of my SlimServer use is listening to tracks at work via softsqueeze, which I've done for years. We have about 18K tracks and recently bought our first Squeezebox. Here's the most common ways we use the system: 1 - Search to artist, track or album and then do a MusicIP Mix based on that thing 2 - Browse New Music to get to the latest additions to the library, then either play the new disc or do a MusicIP Mix on the new disc. We also do Browse New Music to find the latest podcasts that a separate program has downloaded to our library. 2 - Go to the Plugins -> Podcast menu to listen to a podcast directly 3 - Streaming Radio in general, whether it be the Internet Radio section, last.fm, radio.io, Radio Keneally, etc. Also our local public radio station doesn't come in very well over the antenna, so we listen to them through their stream almost exclusively now. 4 - Search to album and play the whole album. Once in a while search to artist, select whole artist and randomize it (my son does that with Weird Al in particular) 5 - Recently I installed the SQL Playlists and have played with that. The big thing I did was make a very long query to make a "spouse-safe" playlist that only played artists she liked. I would prefer to use MusicIPs Filters function, but that requires the GUI and I'm running MusicIP headless on FreeBSD. Overall I would say that we mostly use "intelligent random" mixing + some targeted listening. We have pretty much abandoned true Random listening, as our collection is too big and too broad to enjoy it that way. Once in a while I like my Slayer to fade into my Puccini, but not often. I've had a blast with SQL Playlists (I'm a Data Architect IRL), but even the "spouse-safe", artist-constrained list proved to generally be too jarring on a track-by-track basis. You did a great job with that plug-in though; it's a blast. I've stated in other forums: I used Slimserver before MusicIP, but my enjoyment of my collection truly peaks with the combination of Slimserver for delivery and MusicIP for selection.The ultimate for me will be to have MusiciP/Slimserver mix my own tracks with Rhapsody tracks. That's nirvana, imo. All the music I've bought plus a tremendous rental catalog, intelligently mixed. Just got to get MusicIP to add more of the GUI functionality (namely filters and exclusions) to the headless version. -- thing-fish [image: http://imagegen.last.fm/3line/recenttracks/thing-fish.gif] thing-fish's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5288 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
Convert from a lossy format to a lossless format? What a horrible idea. How are you going to keep track of which files are lossy and which are losssless (assuming you have or get truly lossless files)? I hope none of them ever escape. MC -- ModelCitizen Now what? Transporter > Naim NAP 250 > PMC OB1s. Music catalog: http://modelcitizen.mine.nu/music.txt ModelCitizen's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=446 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
thesil;175705 Wrote: > I would like to convert some of my music files in iTunes that are still > Mp3, to Apple lossless. I converted a file or 2 and noticed that the > original song was still in iTunes. Is this normal? I am concerned that > if I "select all" to convert, then I will have thousands of duplicates. > Any suggestions? thanks in advance It would be better to re-rip them, you aren't gaining anything by converting them from MP3 to Apple Lossless otherwise, just gaining file size. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
I'm not sure exactly how I'd build a hybrid IR/WiFi application, but it sure does sound promising (IR for immediate squeezebox response, WiFi for stuff like cover art, etc.). I guess this will be hard, as IR codes are interpreted in a context. You'd have to send sequences of codes :-/. -- Michael - http://www.herger.net/SlimCD - your SlimServer on a CD http://www.herger.net/slim - AlbumReview, Biography, MusicInfoSCR ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
I received the following acknowledgement of a problem from RadioIO: "We are experiencing an unexplained problem with the Mac operating system and some stand alone media players being unable to play our MP3 stream, and with the I Tunes presets not working, Our engineers are looking in to the problem and will get it back up and running as soon as possible, We ask for your patience as we find and fix the problem. Our streams are available though our web site in the WMP and Real formats, till we get the MP3 problem fixed we ask that you listen to us with these options." So we wait! -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
I spoke with the radioio engineer, Greg. They are aware of the problem, but are baffled. It works for some people, but not for others. It works for Greg on his SqueezeBox. Is does not work for me. It does not work in ITunes for me either. It does work using the WMP streams in WMP or WinAmp. Greg looks at this forum, so if anyone has an idea, post it. I checked the network route, and it is fine for me. Jim -- jarome jarome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
bklaas;175718 Wrote: > FWIW, there is a "buy now" link on the website, at least on the site > that's served up to U.S. (there's clearly a IP-country redirect here). > Amazon.com, Target.com, eCost.com, and jr.com all carry it. I probably just missed the "buy now" link - I find their website cluttered and hard to navigate (and initially the drop-down menus wouldn't work). > I think you're once again getting screwed because you're in the Great > White North. This is probably the case, although you're actually further north than me. ;-) Minneapolis, MN: 45 degrees North London, Ontario, Canada: 42 degrees 59 minutes North So...how's the weather up there, Ben? :-) Just so I don't go completely off-topic, IR/wifi control would be incredible but sounds complicated. What would be neat though is for the app to use IR if preferable, wifi if not, but it would have to know if an IR command was received before it sent out the same request via wifi, which would be tricky. But think of its usage pattern: in front of an SB, IR. If not in line of sight anymore, like in another room, it would have to resort to wifi exclusively for control. There would have to be some way of knowing if its IR commands were being received. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
thanks -- that's consistent with my experience, too. I can't see any reason to write ReplayGain tags (which only work with smart devices like a Squeezebox) as vs. adjusting the Gain on the file so it plays at the desired level on ANY playback device (like an iPod). Can you? -- eschurr eschurr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 will not work with Belkin wireless ethernet bridge
I would think that such a device would have auto-switching ports, and I'm not sure what type is required in this situation, but perhaps you're using the wrong cable (ordinary patch where crossover is required or vice-versa). You can tell if you're using the wrong cable if the bridge has port lights. If you use the wrong type of cable they won't light up indicating not even basic electrical continuity. So try swapping cables and swapping cable types. OTOH, the wired models were recently discontinued. You would probably get almost what you paid for it if you sold it. If you return the wireless bridge and sell the wired version for almost what you paid for it, you could get a wireless Squeezebox... -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
Okay, you've largely convinced me the hybrid IR/WiFi thing is well beyond my humble reach. I'm sure I'd get halfway through and find out Apple has some kind of pre-emptive patent on it too. ;) Canada is to the south of me...you just blew my mind. And since you asked, my little weather app says we just topped out at a balmy 1 degree F (that's around -17 C for the metric elite). cheers, #!/ben -- bklaas "the Nokia770 skin guy" http://www.last.fm/user/bklaas/ bklaas's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=58 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175742 Wrote: > thanks -- that's consistent with my experience, too. > > I can't see any reason to write ReplayGain tags (which only work with > smart devices like a Squeezebox) as vs. adjusting the Gain on the file > so it plays at the desired level on ANY playback device (like an > iPod). > > Can you? Well, this depends if you are using a lossless compression (as I do). For MP3 you've already commited to lossing data - so altering the volume permanently really doesn't have a significant impact - other than if you have chosen to "write" the track gain values you won't be able to swap over to the "album" gain values without a re-write in the tags. For lossless files performing the Replaygain alteration on the fly results in a playback that is not truely lossless anymore. Writing the tags (rather than the file) is useful if you want to be able to switch between album & track gains "on the fly" for either format. Hope that rambling makes some sense!! Nic -- DrNic DrNic's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=92 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Take a hint from iPod interface?
My Cingular 8125 (Windows Mobile 5) device has this feature also. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Converting to Apple Lossless
I would like to convert some of my music files in iTunes that are still Mp3, to Apple lossless. Why would you do that? I don't recommend you convert a compressed music file (MP3) to something lossless. You won't gain any improvement in music quality that way. You'll just have a much bigger file that sounds exactly the same. I converted a file or 2 and noticed that the original song was still in iTunes. Is this normal? Yes. I am concerned that if I "select all" to convert, then I will have thousands of duplicates. Converting doesn't remove the original, so yes, you'll have thousands. Any suggestions? thanks in advance Finally, although I'm a Mac person myself, I don't really recommend ALAC (Apple Lossless) because it's a proprietary format. For new rips, I suggest FLAC, unless you have to have it supported by iTunes. FLAC decoding is done natively in the SB2/3/Transporter, and ALAC has to be transcoded on the server side. Kevin -- Kevin O. Lepard Happiness is being 100% Microsoft free. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
Your explanation makes a lot of sense. it sounds like: for MP3 files, adjusting the Gain directly is ok (certainly no worse than using MP3s in the first place) and will work for any device that plays MP3 (that's good). for lossless formats (FLAC, etc) ReplayGain values are the way to go becasue they don't alter the musical part of the files. Right? -- eschurr eschurr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2007 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
I am a mac person as well and I am supported by iTunes. In that case, what should I be ripping new tunes as? -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
bklaas;175756 Wrote: > Okay, you've largely convinced me the hybrid IR/WiFi thing is well > beyond my humble reach. I'm sure I'd get halfway through and find out > Apple has some kind of pre-emptive patent on it too. ;) That's too bad, the IR/wifi idea is really great. But as I said, you'd have to get some indication that the IR signal was received before trying the same command with wifi. Without bidirectional IR, this is tricky. > And since you asked, my little weather app says we just topped out at a > balmy 1 degree F (that's around -17 C for the metric elite). "Down here" in the tropics 138 miles south of you it's a balmy -8 C, 18 F. T-shirt weather - think I'll go to the beach. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Discrete Codes - Favourites
There are a lot of discrete codes available (i.e. "power on" and "power off"), but I don't think there is one that will take you directly to your favorites with a single button push. In order to achieve this, you will have to create some sort of macro that fires off a string of commands. -- gweempose gweempose's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9579 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32247 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: One album artwork displays too large
i don't think paint actually converts the file format. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32053 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
When I used the Nokia as my "slim wifi remote" using the nokia skin I think that, like Ben, I probably only used it (once the novelty had worn off) about 10% of the time, the normal remote was fine, but with the pepper pad its at least 50/50. Hard to say exactly why but it probably something to do with the fiddle factor - I just find I'm playing with the pad more generally - bigger screen probably - and that means using it more for the Squeezebox. The exact screen size also helps makes the icons and cover art look...ahem...shuffles embarrassedly...cooler. A true Pepperpad skin (not my horrible kludge) would was be a marvellous thing and my $10 contibution towards Ben getting a Pepperpad would be in the post or paypal or whatever... -- gandt gandt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=586 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: PepperPad3 as slimserver remote
bklaas;175756 Wrote: > > Canada is to the south of me...you just blew my mind. > > cheers, > #!/ben The easy way to keep it in perspective is to remember that Detroit is across the river from Windsor - to the North!! -- nicketynick Wireless SB3, Denon DRA-F101, Mission M31 loudspeakers WinXP SP2 Slimserver, SMC WBR14g router nicketynick's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1511 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32220 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Weather plugin
So I downloaded the weather station plugin and extracted the file, but it does not show up in my plugins after a restart. Could a MAC user walk me through the process. I am new to MAC Thnaks -- thesil thesil's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9197 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32253 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Problems After Recent Upgrade
I recently upgraded to 6.5.1, and now find I can not search or browse any of my music. Slimserver finds my library ok and scans it, but when it comes to playing music I can no longer select it like before. For instance, if I go to browse music and press right arrow, I get the "Artist" option. If I right arrow again it still goes to "Artist". The same happens with Album and song. On the Slimserver page the music is all visible, but if I select something and click either play or add, it does not move accross to the playlist page. I can play Radio. I have done a complete uninstall and a fresh download to no avail. Is this likely to be a firmware problem on my SB3? Any ideas? Thanks Iain. ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: No display during playback
Our squeezebox 3 is doing the same thing, and pressing brightness does nothing :/ Any other ideas? -- theweirdone theweirdone's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9950 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31864 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
for some reason, when i went to start SS from the system tray, it wouldn't respond, no left or right click. so, i brought up task manager and its a whopping 67,924K and climbing incrementally. end process did kill it np, and it restarted np. any idea why this happened? also any idea why slimtray is currently using some 13+ megs? it does very little imo, thats pretty bloated. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175187 Wrote: > Since most of my plugins are related to different ways of selecting > which music to play I'm a bit interested to know a bit more about this > to get some new ideas. > > 1. *How do you select which music to play today ?* (Browse, Search, > Random, Smart playlists, other?) > 2. *How would you like to select which music to play in the future ?* 1. Mainly Browse, static and dynamic playlists. Never use search and haven't used random mix yet. When I browse, I frequently select a genre or an artist and then I press play and shuffle it. 2. A version of music that actually works would be nice. > Some additional questions just to give you an idea about what type of > things I am looking for comments on: > - Do you like to be in control your self where you manually select > exactly which song to play and in which order to play them ? Sometimes. - If you like to be in control yourself do you do this by creating a number of static playlists that you use later or do you like to browse/search for the exact artist/song every time ? - Do only like to use browsing functions or only search functions or both ? - Do you base the selection on what to play next on the currently playing song/artist ? - Do you want the system to automatically select music for you ? - If you want the system to select music for you, which type of logic should it base the selection on ? Do you want it to be totally random or should it do some more clever things ? - Do you want to system to automatically suggest music but still have the control to select exactly which of the suggestions to play ? What logic or information shall the suggestions be based on ? - Do you want the selection to be based on other peoples listening habits or just your own ? For example by using information from LastFM/Amazon.com and similar sites for the automatic selection ? As I said in the beginning I'm both interesting in how you select which music to play today and how you would like the selection to be done in the future. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Make playlists always start at the begining?
Is there a way to Make playlists always start at the beginning? The reason I ask is we are using this in a bar and have certain song they we play and certain times every night. So I setup playlists and made a favorites button for them so the bartenders can just press button 1 or 2 etc. But it always starts the playlist were is last left off instead of at the beginning. -- drvcrash drvcrash's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8814 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: MP3Gain, MP3Tag, iTunes craziness
eschurr;175772 Wrote: > for lossless formats (FLAC, etc) ReplayGain values are the way to go > becasue they don't alter the musical part of the files. But of course, no tools exist that can alter the volume of lossless files the way MP3Gain can for MP3s. Of course there are 'normalization' algorithms, but this is something else entirely and very undesireable. -- Mark Lanctot "It's like, you know, a New Age religion, but with better treble response." - Jon Heal Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2071 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32178 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Make playlists always start at the begining?
I think I asked the same question about a year ago and got no replies. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=24623 I've never found a way to make this work. There is a setting under Player Settings / Audio options / Power On Resume, but this only works in respect of Power On / Off. Picking up the playlist from the point that the player left off is the more logical behaviour, but I would also like playlists to restart from the beginning. -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32259 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Slimserver, Shoutcast and Winamp
hmmm, so its NOT what i say, its HOW i say it, and I'M the one spewing "self important drivel" into the thread? hahahah, ANYWAY... as i FULLY EXPECTED, the problem did come back, and low and behold, the new solution fixed it. (guess i was right, huh?) it wasn't my router, my wireless, my cat5, cordless phone, the neighbors, a leaky microwave, aliens, or the weather afterall. it WAS in fact, the SB. shocker. and yeah, i see the irony of -how- i wrote this post, it was intentional, and btw, not directed at Andy or SD. so, thx Andy, although i do wish it had come sooner. and please let us know what you find out when you know why the SB can't do direct & why it can do proxied. Thx again, -mdw ps. oh, and ANDY, please answer this: has SN always been direct only, or did it ever use to proxy? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.1 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31359 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
It's been fixed. mp3 access is back -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Radio seems to have fixed this. We have placed a fix in place and should be up and running please give it a try. And let me know how you make out. Gregory Walters radioio Tech 5025 West Lemon Street #200 Tampa FL USA 33609 www.radioio.com -- jarome jarome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1223 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
thesil wrote: I am a mac person as well and I am supported by iTunes. In that case, what should I be ripping new tunes as? I am my own person and I use Linux or Windows as I see fit. I think I better stay away from this Mac thing before I start refering to myself as a mac person too. ;) Regards, Peer ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
MrSinatra;175802 Wrote: > for some reason, when i went to start SS from the system tray, it > wouldn't respond, no left or right click. > > so, i brought up task manager and its a whopping 67,924K and climbing > incrementally. > > end process did kill it np, and it restarted np. > > any idea why this happened? 68MB is fairly standard. I've seen mine range anywhere from 35MB to as much as 100MB, but it tends to rise and fall a little. SlimServer seems to keep huge amounts of data in memory. Plugins are also kept in memory, so the more plugins you activate, the more memory is used. Also, I've encountered a number of poorly written plugins that are bad about releasing memory. > also any idea why slimtray is currently using some 13+ megs? it does > very little imo, thats pretty bloated. SlimTray is written in Perl and uses the same ActiveState method to create an EXE - bundling the complete Perl interpreter into the application itself. You're right, it does very little, but I'm surprised it's that small. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Vista and DRM - Important read
I know it's long and fairly techie, but this is an important read, especially for this community. Just excerpt to pique your interest: "The same deliberate degrading of playback quality applies to audio, with the audio being downgraded to sound (from the spec) fuzzy with less detail" http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html -- ddewey ddewey's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3697 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32261 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
thanks to those who were sending in trouble tickets to support. even those who sent multiple ones to have us "start to take note". actually, we were aware of the situation immediately thanks to extensive statistics and automated warning systems, but took us a while to weed out the problem due to the complexity of our ISP's global distribution system. were were monitoring this thread since early this morning, also thanks to an automated system that helps us find people having problems. what other internet radio network is actually looking for people having problems using our service? :) cheers guys & gals, sorry for the interruption... jesse chief engineer radioio.com -- uncajesse uncajesse's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=8237 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
My slimtray.exe (6.5.1 release) is currently just under 7MB, with a peak of 12MB. Steve. -- SteveEast SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
erland;175607 Wrote: > > I only have a few albums of classical music myself so I haven't really > experienced any problems, but I guess the situation would be totaly > different when the number of classical albums in a collection > increases. Is the problem with Custom Browse that it feels to static to > solve the classical music browsing or is the problem something else ? > > This has been covered at great length elsewhere - not least in the enhancement requests we filed a year ago. But the problem is broader than just the way we can browse. We need additional tags (Performer, at least), the means to browse or search by composer performer and conductor independently AND then some flexible browsing. The so called "advanced" search is almost a joke in this context. I have used some of your plugins - and very helpful they are too - but as you have acknowledged more than once they are sticking plasters on the side of SS rather than a proper fix. So, although I have used your plugins to add "Performer" for display purposes, I can't use it to search. Ceejay -- ceejay ceejay's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=148 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Converting to Apple Lossless
thesil;175777 Wrote: > I am a mac person as well and I am supported by iTunes. In that case, > what should I be ripping new tunes as? If you definitely want to use iTunes then ALAC is probably your best choice for lossless. But, as others have mentioned :), you should definitely rerip anything that's currently in a lossy format like mp3 - no lossy => lossless transcoding. Steve. -- SteveEast SteveEast's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4193 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32249 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Vista & Slimserver
Not a bad guess on the vista comment... got my gmail account hacked alongside ebay about 3 hours after posting this so have gone back to XP! I'll be running slimserver on OS X failrly shortly though... -- urbanshepherd urbanshepherd's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5744 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31883 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Nokia N800
user "Thoughtfix" has a blog on the 770 & 800. Here's a link to his "must have" applications. Follow the links and you will find installation info. Have fun http://thoughtfix.blogspot.com/2006_12_17_archive.html -- TechHome TechHome's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2340 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=31398 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can't connect to SlimServer via IP address
justrick;175838 Wrote: > Windows XP Pro, Netgear router, etc. I can connect to my SlimServer via > http://localhost:9000, but not via http://myPublicIP:9000. Any thoughts > as to why? I checked the XP firewall and the proper ports appear to be > open. I constantly get a "problem loading page" error. What am I > missing? Assuming you have a router: have you opened up the ports on the router? If you are talking about a real public IP, (not 192.168) then you will have to try from off your network: most routers will not honor the public IP from the local side. -- snarlydwarf snarlydwarf's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1179 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32262 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Can't connect to SlimServer via IP address
Are you trying to connect to Slimserver remotely - i.e. from another location such as work (assuming your Slimserver is installed at home) ? If so, you may find this ' wiki' (http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?RemoteStreaming) item helpful (although be aware that this is not the most secure way to access slimserver remotely). Or are you trying to access Slimserver on your local network ? i.e. on another computer that is part of the same network that Slimserver is installed on ? If so, what security settings have you used for Slimserver ? And what is the IP address you are actually trying - is it something like http://192.168.[].[] ? -- Siduhe Siduhe's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=723 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32262 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SB3 will not work with Belkin wireless ethernet bridge
Thanks the reply Mark. Yes, I thought of the cross-over/patch cable. I have tried other cables, will track down a cross-over. The laptop connected OK though with a patch cable(it might have auto-switching already). The ethernet light on the bridge shows connectivity with the SB3 plugged into it, so I suspect that this is not the issue. Unless anyone has had success, I think the best thing is to take offers on the SB3 as you suggest ... Regards Hamish -- mawfin mawfin's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2612 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32224 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Vista and DRM - Important read
Good post. DRM is just about companies controlling legit users. It's really ridiculous. This post hints that somebody's already cracked it so I'm sure there will inevitably be a 'fix'. http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/29/windows-vista-protected-media-path-drm-already-broken/ -- jjazz jjazz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5552 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32261 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
sorry, i wasn't clear... taskmgr was saying it was the " SlimTray.exe " that had reached 68megs! normally, my Slim.exe is around 77-89megs. i think 13meg for slimtray is bloated, but 68megs, climbing, and unresponsive? it doesn't happen often, but it does happen. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.2 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. bump... Was I was confused by the other threads? This is not an issue? -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4 SB3-Rotel RB890-B&W Matrix 805 SB3-Pioneer VSX-49TXi-Mirage OM7+C2+R2 Eric Carroll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9293 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. Please turn on the diagnotics described in the second part of: http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DiagnosingPerformanceIssues and post the output here - this should show anything taking more than 0.5 seconds in the server. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
MrSinatra;175848 Wrote: > i think 13meg for slimtray is bloated I agree. I imagine something written in C for Windows would be a few hundred kilobytes. > but 68megs, climbing, and unresponsive? it doesn't happen often, but it > does happen. There were some changes made to SlimTray for 6.5.1. I doubt that they've all been ironed out. I stopped using SlimTray a while ago. What does it do? It stops/starts the SlimServer service. That's easily done from the Services manager. If you want a quicker way, create a couple of batch files and place an icon on the desktop or create If you run more than one instance of SlimServer on the server then you'll need to do this anyway, as the service name is hard-coded into SlimTray, so it controls at most one instance. Batch files: @echo off REM Stop SlimServer service net stop slimsvc @echo off REM Start SlimServer service net start slimsvc And SlimTray also links to the home page of the web ui. So put a bookmark in your browser. Or create a shortcut and place it in the Start menu. That's pretty much all that this 7-13 MB application does. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. Triode;175856 Wrote: > Please turn on the diagnotics described in the second part of: > http://wiki.slimdevices.com/index.cgi?DiagnosingPerformanceIssues > > and post the output here - this should show anything taking more than > 0.5 seconds in the server. I understand. I am trying to see if the *network* specifically is what is causing the issue. That is Tech Support's position and we need some data to see if they are right, or not. If its not the network its got to be the firmware or the slimserver. I didn't start this thread because I am having a problem (which I am). I started it to collect data systematically from all the others reporting the problem in the cited threads and understand if this happens on wireline SB3s and if wireless connectivity is the major root cause. Here is my server data. Keep in mind this is a ~250MHZ processor, so web page generation is SLOW. And as such, I almost NEVER use the Web GUI (I use the SB remote, and Moose, in that order of frequency). Server StatisticsHome / Server & Network Health / Server Statistics Server Response Time The response time of the server - the time between successive calls to select. < 0.002 : 133316 : 20% ## < 0.005 : 258750 : 39% ### < 0.01 : 150078 : 23% ### < 0.015 :13020 : 2% < 0.025 :38569 : 6% ## < 0.05 :46328 : 7% ### < 0.1 :11957 : 2% < 0.5 : 3984 : 1% < 1 : 30 : 0% < 5 : 37 : 0% >=5 : 54 : 0% max : 28.456353 min : 0.001262 avg : 0.011664 Timer Lateness The time between when a timer task was scheduled and when it is run. < 0.002 :26797 : 12% # < 0.005 :29627 : 13% ## < 0.01 : 154952 : 67% # < 0.015 : 6898 : 3% # < 0.025 : 6851 : 3% # < 0.05 : 3510 : 2% < 0.1 : 1830 : 1% < 0.5 : 1196 : 1% < 1 : 117 : 0% < 5 : 254 : 0% >=5 : 408 : 0% max : 28.376613 min : 0.00 avg : 0.039846 Select Task Duration The length of time taken by each task run by select. < 0.002 : 1453 : 3% # < 0.005 : 1710 : 3% # < 0.01 :40578 : 82% # < 0.015 : 4167 : 8% < 0.025 : 167 : 0% < 0.05 : 348 : 1% < 0.1 : 137 : 0% < 0.5 : 522 : 1% < 1 : 23 : 0% < 5 : 231 : 0% >=5 : 58 : 0% max : 28.451643 min : 0.000722 avg : 0.036801 Timer Task Duration The length of time taken by each timer task. < 0.002 : 1393 : 1% < 0.005 : 127539 : 55% ### < 0.01 :13841 : 6% ## < 0.015 : 3069 : 1% < 0.025 :37061 : 16% ### < 0.05 :40219 : 17% < 0.1 : 8430 : 4% # < 0.5 : 873 : 0% < 1 :0 : 0% < 5 : 14 : 0% >=5 :1 : 0% max : 13.850420 min : 0.001002 avg : 0.018120 Execute / Notification Task Duration The length of time taken by each execute command or notification callback. < 0.002 : 1192 : 52% # < 0.005 : 77 : 3% # < 0.01 : 220 : 10% < 0.015 : 118 : 5% ## < 0.025 : 131 : 6% ## < 0.05 : 187 : 8% < 0.1 : 175 : 8% ### < 0.5 : 160 : 7% ### < 1 : 11 : 0% < 5 : 34 : 1% >=5 :0 : 0% max : 3.353227 min : 0.000140 avg : 0.051486 Scheduler Task Duration The length of time taken by each scheduled task. < 0.002 :0 : 0% < 0.005 :0 : 0% < 0.01 :0 : 0% < 0.015 :0 : 0% < 0.025 :0 : 0% < 0.05 :0 : 0% < 0.1 :0 : 0% < 0.5 :0 : 0% < 1 :0 : 0% < 5 :0 : 0% >=5 :0 : 0% max : 0.00 min : 0.00 avg : 0.00 Database Access The time taken for information to be retrieved from the database. < 0.002 : 715 : 7% ### < 0.005 :2 : 0% < 0.01 :0 : 0% < 0.015 :7 : 0% < 0.025 : 18 : 0% < 0.05 : 9523 : 92% ## < 0.1 : 29 : 0% < 0.5 : 11 : 0% < 1 :0 : 0% < 5 :0 : 0% >=5 :0 : 0% max : 0.242024 min : 0.001042 avg : 0.026107 Web Page Build The length of time taken to build each web page. < 0.002 :0 : 0% < 0.005 :0 : 0% < 0.01 :0 : 0% < 0.015 :0 : 0% < 0.025 :0 : 0% < 0.05 :0 : 0% < 0.1 :0 : 0% < 0
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
and btw, if i start SS from the ST, and it then ALSO starts the mysql process, i fully believe that when i STOP SS from the ST, it should ALSO stop or quit the mysql process, or at least give someone the option to have it behave like that. -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.2 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
those are good workarounds... but i probably will just stick with ST, since i do find i look a lot to see if the green (or blue?) color is there to show if SS is started or not. (i don't start it automatically) i guess that means i'm prepared to live with the 13megs, but my concern was that i didn't want to see it start having issues, becoming unresponsive and bloated. in fact, i don't understand why they'd write it in perl, and include a perl interpreter for it in the app to begin with... whats the point of being "cross platform" for this app, [ST] when it only works with windows anyway, (right?) -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.2 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
ceejay;175834 Wrote: > This has been covered at great length elsewhere - not least in the > enhancement requests we filed a year ago. But the problem is broader > than just the way we can browse. We need additional tags (Performer, > at least), the means to browse or search by composer performer and > conductor independently AND then some flexible browsing. The so called > "advanced" search is almost a joke in this context. > > I have used some of your plugins - and very helpful they are too - but > as you have acknowledged more than once they are sticking plasters on > the side of SS rather than a proper fix. So, although I have used your > plugins to add "Performer" for display purposes, I can't use it to > search. > > Ceejay If you put the performers in the comment tag, you could use the advanced search function. But, I agree, the advanced search function is useless for me right now. A couple of things could make it more useful. - Support for more tags, like rating for example. And, why not, support for the performer tag. - It would be great if we could save a given search. For example, suppose you want to hear Glen Gould playing J.S. Bach. You could do the following search: - Artist: J.S. Bach - Perfomer: Glen Gould or, alternatively: - comment: performer is Glen Gould Then you save your search, give it a name, something like "Gould plays Bach". So the next time you'll want to hear Gould playing Bach, you'll just have to click on "Gould plays Bach". And I assume your search would auto-update: if you add an album where Gould plays Bach, it will automatically be added. So it would a bit like Mac OS X smart folders. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. If you run the network test at a high rate for a resonable period of time and it does not drop a packet then I'm not sure it will be the network. However this is only true if the server is fast enough as the network tries to send a packet at a given rate. If the server is running too slow to generate a packet at the right time, it counts that as successful transmission. So try turning on the performance warnings and see whether you get any warning in the log about the server running slow. [this is for normal use rather than when running nettest] -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Take a hint from iPod interface?
> Sorry guys, but I didnt get the point. If you want to scroll fast > through a alphabetical list just press the number keys and like a in a > phone text message you can jump to the place you want in the list > beginning with that letter. This is faster than the iPod style, isn't > it? > My thought exactly. -- Nostromo Nostromo's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=6322 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32235 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Take a hint from iPod interface?
Sorry guys, but I didnt get the point. If you want to scroll fast through a alphabetical list just press the number keys and like a in a phone text message you can jump to the place you want in the list beginning with that letter. This is faster than the iPod style, isn't it? -- RaK RaK's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7855 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32235 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: RadioIO Failure
Good work RadioIO techies. Nice to know that you monitor this forum. RadioIO is an excellent source of music, I enjoy it. -- Ramage P2 266MHz,Linux ClarkConnect 3.2, SlimServer Version: 6.5.1 - 11206, Alien 1.06 P4 2.6GHz, Win XP, SlimServer Version: 6.5.2 - 11304 - Windows XP - EN - cp1252, Alien 1.06 NSLU2 Unslung 6.8b SlimServer Version: 6.3.1 - 8476 - Linux, No Alien Ramage's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=5343 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32239 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
On 30/01/07, MrSinatra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: and btw, if i start SS from the ST, and it then ALSO starts the mysql process, i fully believe that when i STOP SS from the ST, it should ALSO stop or quit the mysql process, or at least give someone the option to have it behave like that. On my 6.5.1 it does. It can take 15-20 seconds for the MySQL service to unload though. Richard ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. I don't believe this UI stall issue has anything to do with the network. But we have to show tech support of this before they will budge off their "its the network" position. My wireless is clean, as you can see. I still have UI stalls. Are you saying that if the server receives a SB3 keypress, then drops it due to overload (it can drop it?) that is counted in the performance stats as success? Why will I get performance warnings if the histograms show no issues? Are you talking about the thresholds on the server performance stats page or some other performance warnings? If slimserver is quietly dropping keypresses when "too busy" that would explain a lot, but it seems too obvious... or is it? -- Eric Carroll Transporter-Bryston 3B SST-Paradigm Reference Studio 60 v.4 SB3-Rotel RB890-B&W Matrix 805 SB3-Pioneer VSX-49TXi-Mirage OM7+C2+R2 Eric Carroll's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9293 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. Yes - set the warning thresholds on the web page. SS drops key presses if they have been queued up for too long. If you edit the perl in Slim/Hardware/IR.pm to change $maxIRQTime you can adjust how long is deemed too long. The idea here is that keeping old key presses and processing them too later is worse than loosing them. The server code is single threaded, but tries to maintain audio streaming if at all possible. This is what "Response Time" is really recording - the time between checking to see if streaming is needed. However for other functions its possible that UI will be locked out because it is single threaded and so a function may take some time and the only other thing done when it is running is audio streaming. So when building a web page for example, the player UI will freeze, but audio streaming should be maintained. This is by current design of the server. -- Triode Triode's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=17 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Need User Data to Diagnose GUI Stall Problem
A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 Question: Do you have a intermittent SB GUI pause for 8-30 sec? - Yes, my wireless SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - Yes my wired SB will intermittently pause for 8-30sec. - No, my SB GUI does not pause. I may be wrong, bit I think if Slimserver is running on an Windows XP system, editing the IR.pm file will have no effect because of the way the EXE is created. -- bpa bpa's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=1806 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32238 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: How would you like to select which music to play ?
Apple's media player interface http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4itNWe27d38&eurl= Sadly you need a HD TV, but it's pretty slick nonetheless. -- CardinalFang CardinalFang's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=962 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32202 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: SlimTray.exe unresponsive and huge
it never has quit for me, although i've only been using nightlies since before thanksgiving i think. i just tried it now, it ain't quittin. sits there at ~18megs, while ST is ~14, and slim not present) are you using XP sp2 and the "official" 6.5.1 release? -- MrSinatra www.LION-Radio.org Using: Squeezebox2 w/SS 6.5.2 (beta!?) - Win XP Pro SP2 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram MrSinatra's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2336 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32257 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Italian owners?
Beh, complimenti a tutti per l'acquisto. Sì, ho postato io il msg sul forum di Af Digitale. Dopo le recenti recensioni e prove sia di AF Digitale che di Digital Video ho maturato la conclusione che abbiano provato lo Squeezebox molto velocemente e che lo abbiano considerato piu' che altro un ricevitore di radio via Internet. Probabilmente c'e' qualcuno che lo usa soprattutto per quello, sicuramente non io. Mi dispiace che in due pagine non abbiano realmente compreso/fatto comprendere quali sono le potenzialità dell'apparecchio (o di una rete di apparecchi - p.es. multiroom). Se non altro sono contento che abbiano fatto notare che l'interfaccia e' presente anche in italiano (!): indovinate un po' Comunque sul sito americano della Logitech e' stato inserito lo Squeezebox, spero tra poco verra' distribuito anche da noi. Sul prezzo sono sempre meno convinto che sara' favorevole (specie qui in Italia). A presto, Riccardo P.S.: Visti i pochi messaggi negli altri forum europei mi sa che non vale ancora la pena richiederne l'apertura di uno italiano, in futuro chissa'... -- RiccardoR RiccardoR's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=40 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=14280 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Re: Vista and DRM - Important read
ddewey;175828 Wrote: > Just excerpt to pique your interest: > "The same deliberate degrading of playback quality applies to audio, > with the audio being downgraded to sound (from the spec) “fuzzy > with less detail”" This does not apply to all audio, just to audio with content protection that is being played through an non-secure audio device. So this only really applied to the audio from HD-DVD and BluRay that is flagged with the Image Constraint Token. If the video and audio are not flagged or protected than Vista will not restrict the quality. Or if you are playing the media through HDCP compliant hardware you are also competely fine. Simple fix: don't buy restrictive media This is no Microsofts or Vistas fault, it is the movie industry that has given us this. -- funkstar funkstar's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2335 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=32261 ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
