[slim] alienBBC stream gets wrong name as favourite under SC 7.3

2009-01-04 Thread amorphia

Hi all,

my first teething problem after installing SC 7.3 last night. I can add
an AlienBBC stream to favourites with my SB remote, but in the
favourites list it just ends up named as Favourite... a bit confusing
with more than one!

I don't mind manually editing a favourites file as a quick fix, if that
is a feasible way to do it... if someone could tell me how!

Thanks,

Ben


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Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?

2009-01-04 Thread fango

nicktf;377380 Wrote: 
 I bought a Popcorn Hour A110 which I just point to my NAS - after a few
 months, it's played pretty much everything that I've thrown at it ISO,
 MKV, AVI and etc. I'm really impressed with it, though I only use a
 fraction of its functionality. Don't expect fancy menus, unless you use
 one of the jukebox skins (http://www.networkedmediatank.com/). The key
 selling point for me was that it wasn't another PC cluttering up a room
 and consuming unnecessary power. You can put a hard drive in it if you
 want, I haven't bothered. I would recommend you keep track of your
 ripped media with a sensible naming scheme that reflects resolution and
 fps, though. And don't use it for music playback, but why would you,
 with a Squeezebox :-)

.. functionality of Popcorn Hour A110? .. hm, there's only little
problem with functionality - wireless wont work thru walls, I guess
that piece of hardware is out-of-date, cables arround my flat, on
two-three places .. I dont think so .. people, do you have any (other)
suggestion how to easy transfer PC files
(divx,xvid,mp3,progdvb-sat.program,internet radio) without cables?

thanks!


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Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer

2009-01-04 Thread SilverRS8


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597

Question: Does Album Catalogue Creator (RC5+) create a trustworthy
output?

- Yes
- Yes but with minor issues
- No
- It does not work at all


rbz5416;378980 Wrote: 
 Forgive me if this has been answered in the previous 44 pages but life
 is short!
 
 Can a portable database be created as it would be useful to have a copy
 on a portable device? Either copying the AlbumArtCatalogs folder or
 performing a File Save within the catalog breaks the artwork. The
 artwork only seems to load with AlbumArtCatalogs in the location where
 was originally created.

I don't really understand the question and don't know if it is ACC
related but ACC uses the references as stored in the squeezecenter
database so ACC wil not use a copy of the album art elsewhere if one
was made. Does this answer your question.


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[slim] Transporter FW71 digital inputs and favourites

2009-01-04 Thread coppo23

I wasn't sure whether to add this to the digital inputs bug 4834 or if
it is not related. It may well be finger trouble on my part.

I have a CD using RCA coax input and favourite set to select it by
pressing and holding 0. Once working - it is fine - I can go back and
forth between library and CD (digial input). After a power cycle or SC
restart it won't work. The favourite selects the digital input - but no
sound. If you go into the digital inputs menu, the wrong input has been
selected (not RCA coax). Manually change to this input and it is fine.
It seems like the favourite does not completely select digital inputs,
RCA coax - just digital inputs.

The favourite is
file:///D:/shares/Music/playlists/cd%20player%20direct%20to%20lounge.m3u

The playlist it refers contains the url
source:rca-spdif

Have I done anything wrong here?

Cheers

Coppo


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[slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread rbl

Hi - I have a (not very good) SpeedTouch router which my ISP requires me
to use. I hook a LinkSys WRT54GX into the SppedTouch via the NET socket.
Both routers have the same WEP key. On the secondary LinkSys router I
set Internet connection type to Auto config DHCP and I also disable
DHCP Server since I gather the SpeedTouch will perform this task.

This all works fine. My wireless laptop connects to the LinkSys, and my
main desktop and a network drive that are wired into the LinkSys work.

However the SB3 will only connect to the SpeedTouch. When I try to
connect to the LinkSys all works until I select Obtain IP address
automatically on the SB3. It then looks for one and finally says
Couldn't find DHCP server and Go right to self-assign an IP
address. Not sure what to do here, but it also seems very odd that my
laptop happily connects to the LinkSys.

Any idea what is goiing on here and how to remedy it?


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Re: [slim] Spectrum analyzer displays mostly high frequencies

2009-01-04 Thread funkstar


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- Keep it as is!
- Toss it!
- Fix it!


There was some discussion of this a long time ago. Basically, the
developers know it isn't accurate, it was never intended to be, it's
just a screen saver or realtime animation if you like.

I doubt it will ever change, not now anyway.


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Re: [slim] Problems with Squeezecenter 7.x

2009-01-04 Thread funkstar

Have you tried hard wiring your SB to your network instead of using
wireless?

I suspect you are getting wireless interference from neighbouring
networks. If this is the case, you could try setting the wireless
channel to something else, one, six and eleven are good as they don't
ovelap with other channels.

Streaming content is much more prone to wireless problems than anything
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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread funkstar

The backend sync code has been completely overhauled over the past
couple of major revisions. However the interface hasn't. I agree that
this is a great shame.

However the developers have recognised it as a failing of the system as
it stands and it will be addressed in the next revision.


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Re: [slim] Problems with Squeezecenter 7.x

2009-01-04 Thread boerremk

Yes that is one of the things already tried, but no success.

Now running SC 6.5.4 and wireless and that is no problem.


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Re: [slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread Millwood

Don't quite understand your wiring.

What is the net socket.

And where are you plugging the other end of that wire into the
linksys.

The correct way to use a router (linksys) as an access-point and switch
is to.

1.  Give it an address on the network implemented by the router that is
different from the router and NOT in the router DHCP range.
xxx.xxx.xxx.2 is a standard choice.

2.  Turn off DHCP.

3.  Set its wireless config the same as the router - with either the
same or a different channel.  I use different channel.

4.  Connect an ether net wire from one of the lan ports on the router
to one of the lan ports on the AP.  The AP Wan port MUST NOT BE USED.

You should be able to reach the config pages of the AP by using the
address you gave it during the set up.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread probedb

Hi,

I just bought this app and apologies if this question has been covered
but 61 pages is a lot to read ;)

Basically I can't get iPeng to work. It finds my server ok and asks for
my login credentials but then appears to do nothing, it doesn't say the
credentials are wrong and doesn't crash.

I have a player switched on yet iPeng says that no players are
connected so I'm a little confused.

My firewall (Eset) allows UDP connections on 3483 so I'm it can't be
that.

Any thoughts?

Cheers.

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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

probedb;379074 Wrote: 
 Hi,
 
 I just bought this app and apologies if this question has been covered
 but 61 pages is a lot to read ;)
 
 Basically I can't get iPeng to work. It finds my server ok and asks for
 my login credentials but then appears to do nothing, it doesn't say the
 credentials are wrong and doesn't crash.
 
 I have a player switched on yet iPeng says that no players are
 connected so I'm a little confused.
 
 My firewall (Eset) allows UDP connections on 3483 so I'm it can't be
 that.
 
 Any thoughts?
 
 Cheers.
 
 Paul.

It does find your server, so that you see your library but it does NOT
see your player, correct?
Have you tried to restart iPeng (simply quit and launch again)?
Sometimes while entering credentials the server initialization times
out and then stops working, it SHOULD get better after a minute, but
it's worth a try. You will not have to re-enter the credentials.

Can you see the player from the SqueezeCenter Web interface?


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread probedb

Apologies, I've figured out the problem. iPeng doesn't throw an error
when you provide an incorrect username/password, it simply sits there.
Figured the right one out and it works fine :)

But one to add to a list of things to do?

Will give it a proper go soon :)


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread rspieckermann

Hello pippin!

About the locale: The locale seems to be alright, SSOTS says i'm on
UTF8, but i also tried renaming the folder i18n and set the locale
again.. Didn't help..

I'm able to reproduce the error pretty ease in the meanwhile.. After a
new scan i cannot use iPeng anymore until i restart SqueezeCenter.
There's an interessenting thread in the german subforum called
Datenbank bereinigen ohne Ende... and that problem occurs to me as
well. So i'm thinking that may have something to do with it.. The
scanner somehow stucks on cleaning up the database at the end of the
scanning process.. So my SqueezeCenter is in an strange state after
that.. 
Btw, the other iPhone apps still work in that situation.. But that's
not much help because i'd love to use iPeng.. :o)

Are there any iPeng crash logfiles somewhere, that i could send? 

Thanks again, Bye Ralf


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread ScAndal

I couldn't agree more!  I think the sync (multi-zone) ui of
squeezecenter really needs to be revamped.  Please take a look at the
Sonos interface or other multi-zone interfaces for good examples.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

rspieckermann;379102 Wrote: 
 Hello pippin!
 
 About the locale: The locale seems to be alright, SSOTS says i'm on
 UTF8, but i also tried renaming the folder i18n and set the locale
 again.. Didn't help..
 
 I'm able to reproduce the error pretty ease in the meanwhile.. After a
 new scan i cannot use iPeng anymore until i restart SqueezeCenter.
 There's an interessenting thread in the german subforum called
 Datenbank bereinigen ohne Ende... and that problem occurs to me as
 well. So i'm thinking that may have something to do with it.. The
 scanner somehow stucks on cleaning up the database at the end of the
 scanning process.. So my SqueezeCenter is in an strange state after
 that.. 
 Btw, the other iPhone apps still work in that situation.. But that's
 not much help because i'd love to use iPeng.. :o)
 
 Are there any iPeng crash logfiles somewhere, that i could send? 
 
 Thanks again, Bye Ralf
Yes, please do the fllowing:

1. Find your server.log.  You get the path from your SC's WebUI
(Settings-Advanced-Logging).
Note: you need to find the log in the finder, the link in the webUI
doesn't do it.
2. shut down your server
3. delete server.log
4. start the server and wait until the Web Access button becomes
enabled
5. Go back to Settings-Advanced-Logging and set (network.jsonrpc) -
JSON-RPC API Logging to Debug and press Apply at the bottom of the
page.
6. start iPeng and wait until it crashes (you can go straight to albums
to provoke it)
7. send me the server.log that you have now.
8. Set (network.jsonrpc) - JSON-RPC API Logging back to Error and
press Apply (or you get really big log files).

iPeng is a bit sensitive to incompletely scanned databases, yes. I
would be happy to find out, why, so this log would really be helpful.


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Re: [slim] Rhapsody Subscribers....

2009-01-04 Thread FredFredrickson

I  think I was confused Andy, I got the skip limit while using the
Rhapsody client not squeezebox. 

Anyhow, I can get rhapsody to play a few songs, but it's only 1 song
more reliable than it was before. I get through 4 songs and then it
either forgets to sync one of the players, or it stops altogether.

At this point, local library is 100% reliable, never stops.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

try iPeng :-)


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Re: [slim] squeeze box wallwart

2009-01-04 Thread funkstar

beatnut88;378956 Wrote: 
 I have an original squeezebox I haven't used in ages. I think I have the
 correct wallwart but as no voltage is marked on the unit itself I would
 like to know if the wallwart is correct.  As I live in Oztralia I
 assume it is a European unit - not that it probably makes much
 difference.  thanks for any guidance
 
 Neil
Up until the Reciever was released (except the Transporter that uses an
internal power supply) all the SlimDevices players used a 2amp @ 5v
power supply. The tip on the end is pretty universal too, so as long as
it matches those specs and fits you will be good to go. A higher rated
power output is fine too, as long as it is at least 2amps @ 5v.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer

2009-01-04 Thread rbz5416


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output?

- Yes
- Yes but with minor issues
- No
- It does not work at all


Forgive me if this has been answered in the previous 44 pages but life
is short!

Can a portable database be created as it would be useful to have a copy
on a portable device? Either copying the AlbumArtCatalogs folder or
performing a File Save within the catalog breaks the artwork. The
artwork only seems to load with AlbumArtCatalogs in the location where
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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread morgan4x4

Would use iPeng is I were a iPhone user.  I have 3 SB Controllers that I
use, and on occasions the web interface.

UpstateMike - The sync play itself works much better in 7.3+, including
much better music service sync (Slacker, Rhapsody, etc.)  To Logitech's
credit they have also overcome the Rhapsody 3 player limit! - I'm
simply upset about how difficult it is to sync and unsync multiple
players in the Web and SBC UI.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

rspieckermann;379114 Wrote: 
 Hello pippin,
 
 i'll send you the logfile..

OK, thanks.
Another Known Issue :-(
If the first rescan after a server (re)start fails, iPeng will crash.
Workaround: Make sure scans always finish or go back to SC 7.2.1.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread peterw

ScAndal;379104 Wrote: 
 I couldn't agree more!  I think the sync (multi-zone) ui of
 squeezecenter really needs to be revamped.  Please take a look at the
 Sonos interface or other multi-zone interfaces for good examples.


There's a fundamental difference between RF-based interfaces like the
Squeezebox 
and Sonos controller units and interfaces based on physical buttons
and IR remotes. With a nearby UI like the Boom knob or Classic UI,
the pull sync model is more apt. It makes more sense to change what's
playing on the nearby player than foist changes on a distant player.
With roaming interfaces like the Controller, push makes more sense
-- with RF-based UIs, the focus is the playlist, not the player. 


SqueezeCenter 7-7.2 got one thing right: each UI offered the most
appropriate sync model for that UI. But it used the same simple word,
sync, which made it confusing for those of us with both Controllers
and Boom/Classic/Transporter units.


7.3 fixes the linguistic confusion, but the cost is awkwardness in the
roaming interfaces, esp. the Controller, as switching between
controlled players is still a little sluggish.


Sonos has it easy, they only have roaming/RF. SqueezeCenter needs to
address RF/web and IR/buttons. None of the 7.x releases have done that
as well as anyone, including Logitech/Slim Devices, would like.


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Re: [slim] Can't connect to Internet Radio

2009-01-04 Thread SPotter

I have same problem with Squeezebox 2 - since I moved from Montreal to
Truro
!!??
Failed to Parse is an issue with the web page content - not DNS
My guess is Logitech changed something without testing for
compatability with older products.
I'll dig further, later.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

morgan4x4;379119 Wrote: 
 Would use iPeng is I were a iPhone user.  I have 3 SB Controllers that I
 use, and on occasions the web interface.
 
 UpstateMike - The sync play itself works much better in 7.3+, including
 much better music service sync (Slacker, Rhapsody, etc.)  To Logitech's
 credit they have also overcome the Rhapsody 3 player limit! - I'm
 simply upset about how difficult it is to sync and unsync multiple
 players in the Web and SBC UI.

an iPod touch isn't more expensive than a controller, and you've got
three of those! It's worth a try, believe me :-)


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Re: [slim] Rebuffering solved !!! Netgear XE102

2009-01-04 Thread SuperQ

The squeezebox uses TCP to stream the audio, dropping a single frame
isn't a problem.  You are were likely dropping lots of frames causing
the playback buffer on the squeezebox to empty.


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Re: [slim] Boom + Duet = Slacker problem?

2009-01-04 Thread jmourik

Two strikes you're out! But you can always edit the station details and
remove that song from the thumbs down list. So that gives you some
flexibility, you can always correct things...


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Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer

2009-01-04 Thread rbz5416


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597

Question: Does Album Catalogue Creator (RC5+) create a trustworthy
output?

- Yes
- Yes but with minor issues
- No
- It does not work at all


Yes it's AAC related, that's why I posted in your AAC thread. 

After running AAC, a folder is created in the same directory where the
AAC application is located. This folder is named AlbumCatalogs. This
folder contains 3 files:

AlbumCatalog - Date - QuickRef.html
AlbumCatalog - Date.html
AlbumCatalog - Date.html.mht

With my approx 1,000 album database the last file is around 4.5MB. This
would seem to include the artwork images.

Moving the AlbumCatalogs folder to any other location results is the
vast majority of art not displaying, but some does.

Performing a File Save As within a browser with the AlbumCatalog.html
open creates a structure like so:

Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist).htm  a folder name
Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist)_files. The folder contains
all of the artwork images in the format folder(1).jpg.

Again, opening Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist).htm results in
the same result, most art is not displayed.

What I am try to achieve is a portable copy of the database as output
by AAC complete with artwork. This would be useful to hold on a PDA (or
similar device with a browser)to avoid duplicate purchases when browsing
in a shop.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread asymtot

pippin;377371 Wrote: 
 Now wait a moment, that's a different issue and it only applies to the
 iPeng plugin before version 0.5.
 
 However, it's actually ONE of the reasons for the problems in 1.0.4.
 
 asymtot, you say it can't be the iPod because the iPod's iPod
 application (this naming convention is confusing...) doesn't show this
 problem.
 Well... that's not completely true. iPhone OS does have a standard
 control called UISlider that displays a nice slider which iPeng uses.
 It behaves completely different from the one iPod uses. I'm pretty sure
 Apple's iPod application uses something else.
 One of the diferences in behavior is, that UISlider will immediately
 move to any position on the slider bar where you touch it. Just like
 iPeng pre-0.5. In the beta test it came out that this is not acceptable
 and actually most iPhone apps don't behave like this.
 So iPeng captures only an area around the knob and you have to drag
 that one. It's not just the knob itself, it's a much bigger area but it
 captures there.
 Step in issue #2: The sensitivity of the iPhone screen close to the
 borders is limited, you can see this with other apps and other controls
 as well. This seems to be a software issue, actually, the problem seems
 to be that the screen is actually MORE sensitive close to the edges and
 the software compensates for that. This means, some touches close to the
 border are sometimes simply ignored, if iPhone decides they are
 accidental.
 Now step in iPeng: Due to it's layout, on iPeng the volume slider is
 actually CLOSER to the edge of the screen than with most other apps.
 
 The result is what you see. In my experience it helps to make sure you
 don't touch the screen with the fingers of the hand that holds the
 device (even outside the visible area) and especially not to rest a
 finger at the bottom of the device.
 
 I'm looking for solutions, but since increase capture area and move
 up detection chain to improve sensitivity are pretty much through, my
 current favorite is to swap the volume slider with the
 Power/Skip/Play buttons, those are bigger and a missed hit may not
 hurt as much.
 
 Opinions?


Would it be possible to use the physical volume controls on the side of
the ipod?


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Re: [slim] Rebuffering solved !!! Netgear XE102

2009-01-04 Thread radish

Many power strips have surge protectors built in, these will usually
kill powerline network adapters dead. The rebuffering was simply being
caused by a lack of data getting over the connection, nothing to do
with the protocol.


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Re: [slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread rbl

Many thanks for your help. 
I just looked again and I think that what you suggest is exactly what I
have done. Ignore my  NET socket comment - I have taken an ethernet
wire from a LAN socket on one router to a LAN socket on the other
router. The addresses of the two routers are 192.168.1.254 (Speedtouch)
and 192.168.1.2 (linksys). DHCP Server is disabled. The setup must be
pretty much correct since my laptop connects wirelesly without any
trouble. On the otherhand the SB3 connects to the LinkSys but fails to
get the IP address as explained in my original post - that is the
problem. Any ideas?


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Re: [slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread toby10

rbl;379089 Wrote: 
 Many thanks for your help. 
 I just looked again and I think that what you suggest is exactly what I
 have done. Ignore my  NET socket comment - I have taken an ethernet
 wire from a LAN socket on one router to a LAN socket on the other
 router. The addresses of the two routers are 192.168.1.254 (Speedtouch)
 and 192.168.1.2 (linksys). DHCP Server is disabled. The setup must be
 pretty much correct since my laptop connects wirelesly without any
 trouble. On the otherhand the SB3 connects to the LinkSys but fails to
 get the IP address as explained in my original post - that is the
 problem. Any ideas?

How can the SB3 get an IP if DHCP is disabled?


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Re: [slim] Rebuffering solved !!! Netgear XE102

2009-01-04 Thread MeSue

I have the same Netgear powerline adapters which we use to get music out
to a metal shed on the property. The instructions say specifically not
to plug them into anything but direct into an outlet--no surge
protector, not even an extension cord or outlet multiplier. In my
house, I found that certain outlets worked and others still caused
rebuffering, even plugging into the outlet directly. This was after
replacing and testing all the outlets.


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread rspieckermann

Hello pippin,

here's the logfile..


+---+
|Filename: log.zip  |
|Download: http://forums.slimdevices.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=6556|
+---+

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* QNAP TS-509 Pro 4GB RAM 5 Seagate 1TB : SwapToUSB : SSOTS 1.15 :
SqueezeCenter 7.3.1 : TwonkyMedia 4.4.9
* Plugins: AlbumReview : Biography : CustomBrowse : iPeng : IRBlaster :
Lyrics : MusicInfoSCR : TitleSwitcher
* 1 SqueezeBox Classic, 2 SqueezeBox Boom and 2 Terratec Noxon iRadio
* iPod touch 2.2 with iPeng App (Rocks!)

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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread morgan4x4

PeterW, confusing to who?  Did Logitech get compaints about the word
sync un different intefaces?  Hard to believe that csonsumers that have
moved to the SBC will do a lot of, if any, syncing on the SB physical
devices.  For me it was a no-brainer switching between controller, web
and SB2 units.  Now I am more confused than ever - see my Study /
Dining Room sync example.  Seems as if the desire to have everything
operate the same overrode common sense.

Anyway, my only hope is that the future holds a remedy to this problem!


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[slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread morgan4x4

Excuse me while I spend a few minutes on a rant about the absurty of the
new sync UI in 7.3+.  First a bit about my setup - Nine zones controlled
by SB2s and SBR's, and three controllers.  On any given day I might add
together the master bedroom and master bath, or alternativly let my
wife sleep while listening in the bathroom.  Sometimes I want all zones
on for whole house, and other days a single zone in my office is all I
need.

Previously I simply checked boxes to bring players in and out of a
zone.  now I have to follow a sequence of switching players, then
syncing, then switching players, then syncing, then switching player,
then syncing - up to 8 times.  Unsyncing is just as ridiculous.

The Logitech folks claim this was all in the spirit of making things
consistent across devices.  Huh?  You have now made if difficult across
all interfaces!  What a philosphy - make things more difficult just so
they work the same.  I do not understand this at all.

Other quirks with the new interfact are just as interesting.  An
example: I have a sync'd zone, say study and dinig room.  I start a
song from the controller attached to study.  I then go to synchronize,
and remove the dining room from the sync group.  Guess what - the study
stops and the dining room continues playing!  Huh?

PLEASE make this useable - if you want to play in the same league as
Sonos, you need to make bringing players on and off easy!

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[slim] Rebuffering solved !!! Netgear XE102

2009-01-04 Thread marklings

Using an over the electrical wire adapter, Netgear XE102, to reach a
remote room.
This was not plugged directly into the wall socket, but into a multiple
outlet going into the wall

Very severe rebuffering

Plugging the Netgear directly into the wall solved the problem
Probably the instability of the outlet caused electrical surges that in
turn caused some frames to be lost. I should add that a proper protocol
error management should avoid this. Apparently whenever a single frame
was lost the whole rebuffering thing started
Anyhow, it is now fixed and hopefully will help someone else

Cheers, Mark


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[slim] Problems with Squeezecenter 7.x

2009-01-04 Thread boerremk

My Squeezebox arrived last week and the whole week I was not able to get
a decent song out of the box.

My library is all FLAC and none of them played longer then 5 seconds
and then came in a loop. The 5 seconds of play was with click and other
noise (louder then the real song).

After I enabled Bitrate Limiting (and installled lame) the FLAC files
played, but again with clicks and noice. The FLAC files where playing
with Winamp or Mediamonkey.

The SB is wireless connected to the network, the Windows XP desktop
with a wire (all to the same router). The quality of the wireless
connetion is  80%.

The following I tried but none was working:
- Wired the SB
- Static IP on SB
- Converted FLAC to MP3 (different formats)
- Installed SC 7.2.1
- Pressed Add after reboot of SB
- Pressed 1 after reboot of SB
- Installed SC 7.3.1 on different Windows XP desktop
- Installed SC 7.2.1 on different WIndows XP desktop

Then I thought it was Windows XP, so I bought a Synology DS209+ (needed
more space also ;-)).

On the Synology DS209+ I tried it with the Synology package and later
on with SSODS (with SC 7.3.1). Still the same results: without bitrate
limiting a few seconds of a song and then loop (with noise and clicks),
with bitrate limiting on a lot of noise and clicks.

So it wasn't Windows XP...

Then last night I tried installing 6.5.4. First on the Synology with
SSODS, but that was not working because the version of SSODS didn't
like such an old version of SC). After that on the Windows XP desktop,
and.. YES it worked (without bitrate limiting, all my FLAC files
are playing fine!)

How can I get SC 7.3.1 running on or my Windows XP desktop or the
Synology DS209+?


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Re: [slim] SBC Show Year with Albums

2009-01-04 Thread Hrimgrimnir

Are we the only ones about this?
Or is it a common well-know bug? (I couldn't find this issue in the
buglist).
Otherwise I would be pleased if anyone has any info about this :)


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Re: [slim] iPeng Application 1.0 now on the App Store

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

asymtot;379148 Wrote: 
 Would it be possible to use the physical volume controls on the side of
 the ipod?

As I said a few times before: I don't know. Technically: yes. I've got
it implemented. It's forbidden as of Apple's style guide. I'll try and
see for the 1.1 release.
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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread upstatemike

I was looking forward to upgrading to 7.31 precisely for the fact that
it is supposed to improve synchronized payback but now you have me
worried that I should wait for a later release. I thought synchronized
playback was supposed to be one of the core technologies and key
reasons for buying multiple streaming music players. I'm kind of
surprised that this isn't more polished and that features like
pre-defined groups of players that you can enable in a single step, or
add as a group to a larger synch group, are not supported in the main
sofware release. I think some features (and maybe more rational
controller menus?) are available through plugins but shouldn't this be
part of the core development?


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Re: [slim] Squeezebox 3 problem with s/pdif interface

2009-01-04 Thread wellington

thank you to all.
Apologies for not having given a feedback to you all, but I've been out
of home for a while and I am back now.
I bought a decent optical cable, connected the SB3 through it and the
problem seems to be disappeared. It probably has to do with something
in my electrical cabling. The multi-plug socket I am using is probably
not of the best quality and shall have to be replaced. Anybody have a
suggestion for a decently priced solution? (not more than euro 50)
The current setup is for a simnple multi-plug (one main electrical
switch, plus one switch per plug) powering the DVD-player, the SB3, the
DAC and the integrated amplifier. On another plug I have a Plasma
widescreen, an IOmega HDplayer and a DVB-T external box.
I do not have other mains plugs in the near proximity, so it shall have
to be a multi-plug solution. In the stores near where I live (Milan,
Italy) you can find what I would call fancy multi-plug sockets from
Belkin or similar. Will any of these be a viable option?

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Re: [slim] Rebuffering solved !!! Netgear XE102

2009-01-04 Thread pfink

marklings;378981 Wrote: 
 Using an over the electrical wire adapter, Netgear XE102, to reach a
 remote room.
 This was not plugged directly into the wall socket, but into a multiple
 outlet going into the wall
 
 Very severe rebuffering
 
 Plugging the Netgear directly into the wall solved the problem
 Probably the instability of the outlet caused electrical surges that in
 turn caused some frames to be lost. I should add that a proper protocol
 error management should avoid this. Apparently whenever a single frame
 was lost the whole rebuffering thing started
 Anyhow, it is now fixed and hopefully will help someone else
 

I've been using Linksys Powerline AV adapters on three of my
Squeezeboxes (because of wi-fi deadspots in the house) and they've been
working great. Linksys states specifically in the manual to plug them
directly into a wall outlet and not into a power strip or surge
protector.


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Re: [slim] Announce: Album Catalog Creator for SlimServer

2009-01-04 Thread SilverRS8


A poll associated with this post was created, to vote and see the
results, please visit http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=41597

Question: Does Album Catalogue Creator (RC5+) create a trustworthy
output?

- Yes
- Yes but with minor issues
- No
- It does not work at all


rbz5416;379043 Wrote: 
 Yes it's AAC related, that's why I posted in your AAC thread. 
 
 After running AAC, a folder is created in the same directory where the
 AAC application is located. This folder is named AlbumCatalogs. This
 folder contains 3 files:
 
 AlbumCatalog - Date - QuickRef.html
 AlbumCatalog - Date.html
 AlbumCatalog - Date.html.mht
 
 With my approx 1,000 album database the last file is around 4.5MB. This
 would seem to include the artwork images.
 
 Moving the AlbumCatalogs folder to any other location results is the
 vast majority of art not displaying, but some does.
 
 Performing a File Save As within a browser with the AlbumCatalog.html
 open creates a structure like so:
 
 Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist).htm  a folder name
 Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist)_files. The folder contains
 all of the artwork images in the format folder(1).jpg.
 
 Again, opening Squeezebox Album Collection (by Artist).htm results in
 the same result, most art is not displayed.
 
 What I am try to achieve is a portable copy of the database as output
 by AAC complete with artwork. This would be useful to hold on a PDA (or
 similar device with a browser)to avoid duplicate purchases when browsing
 in a shop.

The art work in the .HTML file directly links to the actual location
where the art is stored and using the drive mapping used during the
generation of it. Moving this file to another computer not having this
mapping will result is art work being missing.

The .mht file though is a file which is portable and can either be
stored anywhere else or send to someone else as all page content is
included in the .mht file. It is a standard Internet Explorer feature
and file format. Another way of making it portable is saving the
catalog as PDF file (useful if you don't want to use the Internet
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Re: [slim] streaming Myspace Music?

2009-01-04 Thread NoodlesSmash

How does one go about getting an invite for Spotify?
Stay happy,
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Re: [slim] Fixing iTunes downloaded cover art

2009-01-04 Thread tony79

It looks like my problem is very different. My log file contains 300+
lines with the following error message:

[09-01-04 15:09:50.2092]
Slim::Plugin::iTunes::Importer::Artwork::OSX::exportSingleArtwork (107)
Error: Error from artwork script: Error getting artwork: iTunes got an
error: Parameter error.
[09-01-04 15:09:50.3987]
Slim::Plugin::iTunes::Importer::Artwork::OSX::exportSingleArtwork (107)
Error: Error from artwork script: Error getting artwork: iTunes got an
error: Parameter error.
[09-01-04 15:09:50.5874]
Slim::Plugin::iTunes::Importer::Artwork::OSX::exportSingleArtwork (107)
Error: Error from artwork script: Error getting artwork: iTunes got an
error: Parameter error.


I found another post, apparently about the same problem:
http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=57047


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Re: [slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread Millwood

If you have control over the speedtouch router's address, change it to
the more standard 192.168.1.1   I have some vague memories about issues
with high addresses - not specifically SB3 but just stuff.


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[slim] Replay gain, equal volume.

2009-01-04 Thread Anne

Having a problem, tried smart gain, album gain and track gain, and there
is still large differencies between tracks. for instance Dire Straits is
pretty loud, and Eric Clapton way down low.
Use Random mix quite a bit, thats why its a bit annoying.
Use Inguz at -17db. No clipping there.


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Re: [slim] Replay gain, equal volume.

2009-01-04 Thread Yannzola

Anne;379213 Wrote: 
 Having a problem, tried smart gain, album gain and track gain, and there
 is still large differencies between tracks. for instance Dire Straits is
 pretty loud, and Eric Clapton way down low.
 Use Random mix quite a bit, thats why its a bit annoying.
 Use Inguz at -17db. No clipping there.

Did you apply replay-gain tags to these tracks? The volume adjustment
isn't automatic... you'll need to apply tags using foobar2000 or some
other tagger that can calculate the value for you.


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Re: [slim] Weird pauses at end of track in random

2009-01-04 Thread Melor

sebp;378640 Wrote: 
 Since you can reproduce this problem quite easily, please set your
 player.source log level to debugging, and post the log on the bug
 report.


My player got stuck again... The duet remote screen has the now playing
image and track info, but the time on the bottom left goes from 4:35
back to 4:03 and the time on the right goes from -59:59 down to -59:30
and cycles again. This is the log that is created after setting the
player.source log level to debug. Pressing advance starts the next song
but I think we can agree that you shouldn't periodically have to kick it
in the butt to advance to the next song!


Paul

Hopefully someone can make sense of this.



[09-01-04 13:38:03.8402]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-TRACKWAIT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:38:04.0336]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-TRACKWAIT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync



This is what happened when I advanced the track via the remote.



[09-01-04 13:44:18.8140]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:19.8141]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:20.8134]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:21.0154]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:21.0170]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:21.8089]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:22.8140]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0058] Slim::Player::Protocols::File::sysread (211)
Trying to read past the end of file: 
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0065] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (476)
Read to end of file or pipe
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0678] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (499) end
of file or error on socket, song pos: 5223093, tell says: 5223093,
totalbytes: 5202808
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0687] Slim::Player::Source::_readNextChunk (515)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2 mark end of stream
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0708]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: LocalEndOfStream in PLAYING-STREAMING -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_Streamout
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0716]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (1792) new
streaming state STREAMOUT
[09-01-04 13:44:23.0726]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (301)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: LocalEndOfStream - new state PLAYING-STREAMOUT
[09-01-04 13:44:23.8076]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:24.8058]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:25.4222]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::playerEndOfStream (1688)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2
[09-01-04 13:44:25.4235]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: EndOfStream in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_AutoStart
[09-01-04 13:44:25.4381]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_setStreamingState (1792) new
streaming state STREAMOUT
[09-01-04 13:44:25.8140]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:26.0324]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync
[09-01-04 13:44:26.0351]
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_eventAction (269)
00:04:20:16:aa:c2: StatusHeartbeat in PLAYING-STREAMOUT -
Slim::Player::StreamingController::_CheckSync


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Re: [slim] SB3 can not connect to 2nd router when using 2 routers

2009-01-04 Thread rbl

thanks again - I have had a good look in the speedtouch configuration
menus but can't see anything that enables me to do that (although it
seems easy enough on the LinkSys)


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Re: [slim] Fixing iTunes downloaded cover art

2009-01-04 Thread tony79

Figuring that it couldn't hurt, I decided to run the AppleScript as per
kmr's suggestion. The artwork was re-embedded, and now it works!

I'm guessing that there is a bug in either Gimmesometune or SC that
resulted in this behavior.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread Brian Ritchie

Even with only 3 devices that I sync (in various permutations), I too
find the new sync behaviour a bit of a pain.

In part it's just a learning experience, I think. If I'm in the
living-room and realise I have to go upstairs for a while, I *guess*
what I need to do is switch the controller to Upstairs, then ask to
sync with the Living-room (or its group).  But there's no quick way to
synchronise all three players.

I find the Synchroniser plugin more useful; and though it lets me
create predefined sync groups (each with a designated master), I end up
using its sync all others to this player option most of all.  Only
trouble is, it only seems to work if the master is stopped (not just
paused), which renders all the nice mid-play sync work pointless.

(A slight secondary problem of my own making was that after doing sync
all to this one day, a few minutes later, I noticed a tinny echo of the
music, which I eventually realised was coming from the Controller. Yes,
I'd enabled the controller as a player, so of course it was
included...)

I miss the Other Players plugin (which wasn't available for 7.3 last
time I checked); I found it intuitive and (a real boon) didn't have to
keep changing players in the Controller in order to sync in either
direction, or to grab/send the current playlist.

I think I'm falling foul of another quirk with sync (but really need
more tests to confirm): if any player in a group had crossfade enabled
before sync, then even if it wasn't the master, the sync group will
crossfade. The settings for the master still show No Crossfade. So then
I have to cycle round the players to find the culprit and change it. It
would seem more intuitive to me for the sync group to use the master's
settings. (Quite right though that uniform volume control is
optional.)

-- Brian


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Re: [slim] Rhapsody Issues

2009-01-04 Thread dbinfl

brews...@archive.org;378724 Wrote: 
 Slimdevices support suggested I do a factory reset, and this cleared
 this issue.
 
 -brewster

Unfortunately the factory reset didn't work for me.

:rant:
So finally today I finish the last major piece of my home setup (been
tinkering with it for a while).  Extol the virtues to my wife, walk her
through how to select players, synchronize them, etc.  Talk about the
various music services, including Rhapsody.  She says she wants to hear
a particular song.  My free 25 plays are used up, but I've seen enough
to sign up, so I do.  Find the song, plays, and stops.  Try some
Rhapsody channels and get the same.  Spend 30 minutes troubleshooting
-- no luck.  Finally turn on debug logging and find the  A max of
three streams... error.  Search the forum and find this is a known
problem.  Go through the factory reset pain -- still broken.  Drat,
talk about your bad timing!  Now wife ain't happy and I'm annoyed. (And
now one SBR will play, but the main one still throws this error.)
:rant:

So what next?  Just signed up for Rhapsody On the Go and can't use it
on one receiver, but can through the other (at least through SC).  Is
this a SqueezeCenter problem, or a Rhapsody problem?  Should I cancel
my Rhapsody membership (and now I see that I have to CALL them to
cancel -- that bites.)  I hate to have just paid for the service and
not have full use of it.  

I just checked the bug report, which says Resolved, though the most
recent comment says it is still broken.  So is this being worked on or
not?
Regards,
~dbinfl~


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread pippin

Brian Ritchie;379287 Wrote: 
 
 I miss the Other Players plugin (which wasn't available for 7.3 last
 time I checked);
 

Check again :-)


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread Brian Ritchie

pippin;379292 Wrote: 
 Check again :-)

Yes, just did - started with General and worked down to 3rd Party
Plugins.  If only I'd worked up the list, not down :-)

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Re: [slim] Rhapsody Issues

2009-01-04 Thread dbinfl

dbinfl;379291 Wrote: 
 Unfortunately the factory reset didn't work for me.
 snip
 So what next?  Just signed up for Rhapsody On the Go and can't use it
 on one receiver, but can through the other (at least through SC).  Is
 this a SqueezeCenter problem, or a Rhapsody problem?  Should I cancel
 my Rhapsody membership (and now I see that I have to CALL them to
 cancel -- that bites.)  I hate to have just paid for the service and
 not have full use of it.  
 
 I just checked the bug report, which says Resolved, though the most
 recent comment says it is still broken.  So is this being worked on or
 not?
 Regards,
 ~dbinfl~

Just realized that I had reset the controller, and not the non-working
SBR.  So, just completed a reset of the problem SBR, but the problem
remains.  ...not a valid session id...Invalid playback session. A max
of three streams are allowed at one time..  I am definitely only
playing one stream (through the working SBR.)  At least for me, this
bug still exists.
~dbinfl~


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Re: [slim] Love My Squeezebox! What's The Equivalent For Video?

2009-01-04 Thread agillis

After years of people asking for a simple way to play video content on
their TV the consumer electronics industry is finally listening. The
DLNA protocol is supposed to allow you play any content on any device
over a network without any configuration. 

There are a few TVs that came out last summer that support DLNA. This
means you can simply click play content on your remote and your
content on your PC or media server will show up. No external box for
your TV required.

Not all devices support DLNA yet. If fact most don't for now you still
need a media server like VortexBox that supports many different
protocols.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread aubuti

morgan4x4;379179 Wrote: 
 PeterW, confusing to who?  Did Logitech get compaints about the word
 sync un different intefaces?  Hard to believe that csonsumers that have
 moved to the SBC will do a lot of, if any, syncing on the SB physical
 devices.  For me it was a no-brainer switching between controller, web
 and SB2 units.  Now I am more confused than ever - see my Study /
 Dining Room sync example.  Seems as if the desire to have everything
 operate the same overrode common sense.
In fact, they did get complaints -- search these forums and you'll see
them, as well as an active discussion of alternatives. And yes, a lot
of people do still use combinations of SBC, IR remotes on SB classics,
and web ui to control sync'ing. I see problems with both ways, but I
agree that the 7.3.x ui is a step backwards.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread peterw

What do you all think of the proposal I described here:
http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6806#c13 ?

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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread Mnyb

The Old behaviour maked perfect sense to me too.

But I've learned now I just do the *opposite* of what feels right.

It is way to many player switches involved even with two players.


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Re: [slim] Sync Interface Rant

2009-01-04 Thread erland

funkstar;379064 Wrote: 
 
 However the developers have recognised it as a failing of the system as
 it stands and it will be addressed in the next revision.
 
Is there a plan on how it will be changed ?

I'm starting to think that we might want to configure zones where you
can have overlapping zones. 

For example:
- Livingroom zone
--- SB Classic in Livingroom
- Bedroom zone
--- SB Boom in bedroom
- Kitchen zone
--- SB Boom in kitchen
- Whole house zone
--- SB Classic in Livingroom
--- SB Boom in kitchen
--- SB Boom in bedroom
- Daily zone
--- SB Classic in Livingroom
--- SB Boom in kitchen

When when we want to be able to control a zone instead of a single
player. 
The default installation should of course have a zone per player
automatically configured by default so the user only have to configure
any multi player zones.

So instead of choosing player I would be able to choose a zone and
select what to play in that zone. When I play something in the Daily
zone it will make sure that SB Classic in Livingroom and SB Boom in
kitchen in the same sync group and remove any other players from that
syncgroup and start playing. 

The IR controll and Boom interface would control the zone which the
player currently is controlled by. If it's not controlled by any multi
player zone it would control the local player.

I'm not sure how big change this will be since there aren't any zone
concept in SqueezeCenter today. It may be something to try out as a
plugin first before we change it as standard.

A solution like this will add a small complexity when setting up the
zones but it will IMHO make it a lot easier when you want to select
what you want to play where.

Do you think this would work ? 
Would it be better than a solution that controlled single players ?


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