Re: [slim] Market for used Squeezeboxes?
Yeah, Sonos has the Port: https://www.sonos.com/en-us/shop/port No touch (or non-touch) interface, of course, but it'll hook up to your stereo. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 3:18 PM w3wilkes < w3wilkes.aet...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com> wrote: > > I would guess your best shot is here on these forums since we know what > these are and how to use them. 2nd would be ebay. Don't know how big > your library of local music is, but there is a limit to the size of your > library with Sonos. I would see Sonos as reasonable for the radio and > boom, but what about the Touch? Does Sonos have something to plug into > your stereo to replace the Touch? > > > > Main system - Rock Solid with LMS 8.2.0 on WHS 2011 - 2 Duets and > Squeeseslave > Cabin system - Rock solid with LMS 8.2.0 on Win10 Pro - 1 RPi 3 Model > B/Hifiberry DAC+ Pro/PiCorePlayer and Squeezeslave > Squeezebox Boom - "At Large" player around both home and cabin > Headphones and car - Android phone/Bluetooth w/full library on MicroSD > card - PowerAmp music player app (similar to Material Skin) > > w3wilkes's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=22973 > View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=115826 > > ___ > discuss mailing list > discuss@lists.slimdevices.com > http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss > ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Windows: update file modified date based on created date
On Sun, May 29, 2011 at 12:07 PM, hunta
hunta.4uib7b1306685...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote:
That's perfect Steve, thank you - exactly what I was looking for.
In case anyone else wants to use this (and so I can remember what I did
when I need to use it again!), I did find I had to Google the command to
pick up a small typo (Get-ChildItem, rather than Get-Child-Item). Here's
the revised version:
$files = Get-ChildItem c:\music -recurse
foreach ($f in $files) { $f.LastWriteTime = $f.CreationTime }
Whoops! I was typing it on my phone and must have added an extra dash.
Glad it worked for you!
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Re: [slim] Windows: update file modified date based on created date
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 6:02 PM, hunta
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Mnyb;632844 Wrote:
If you use for example mp3tag or puddletag you can set it do not change
the date, so that you can safely update tags without the files showing
up at the top of the new music list.
Thanks for the tip, I'll investigate for future changes. Still have the
current issue though of course!
Here's a quick way you can do it using Windows Powershell (
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/968929 to download the newest version,
unless you have Windows 7, where it's already included)
Let's say you have a folder with all of your music files called c:\music
Open Powershell and type the following two commands (hit enter after each):
$files = Get-Child-Item c:\music -recurse
foreach ($f in $files) { $f.LastWriteTime = $f.CreationTime }
That should do it. It will change the modified date of every
filesystem object inside c:\music to match its own creation date.
Standard disclaimer: This is offered with no guarantee or warranty,
make a backup of your files before running this, etc, etc. It just
worked quite nicely for me on a test folder on my machine, so test it
on your system and let me know if it works.
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Re: [slim] Last.fm plugin started asking for a subscription
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 2:33 PM, garym garym.4fupyn1282070...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Hmmm, I just tried (in the US), and I'm listening to last.fm streaming (under myapps). I'm running a TRANSPORTER connected to SbS 7.5.2 (on Windows XP machine). I have no subscription to last.fm. I believe the subscription requirement only applies to people outside of the US, UK, and Germany. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MP3 P2P sites like LImewire
On Fri, Nov 6, 2009 at 11:07 PM, snarlydwarf snarlydwarf.419j7b1257566...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Newfiestang50;482593 Wrote: I just registered with Itunes, Amazon won't sell to Canadians. Be careful: itunes 'regular' tracks have DRM, and will only play on iTunes or iPods. You have to pay extra for non-drm tracks. This is incorrect, at least for iTunes in the United States. The 'iTunes Plus format, which indicates a 256 kbps AAC file, has the same pricing levels as the old-fashioned iTunes music format (a 128 kbps AAC file with a proprietary DRM layer). This is nominally 99 cents US, but can very by 30 cents either way since tiered pricing was introduced earlier this year which allows labels to charge more for new releases and offer discounts for others. iTunes does not sell DRM and non-DRM versions of the same files; once the release is available as iTunes Plus, it is no longer offered in a DRM format. What you may be thinking of is the 'upgrade' offer that Apple made available for people who previously purchased a DRM file before the iTunes Plus format became available. Apple charges 30 cents US to 'upgrade' (replace) old tracks with new versions. This is a concern for people who bought music in the past, but is a negligible concern these days at the point of sale for those just starting a collection. As mentioned elsewhere in this thread, iTunes Plus is now the default format even for most major labels. There is still a chance that you'll come across music you wish to buy that is in a DRM format, which would of course mean device lock-in and a potential future 30 cents per track payment to get iTunes Plus versions if they become available. Again, I can speak only from experience has a US consumer, so someone with first-hand experience purchasing from Canadian iTunes may have a different tale to tell. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] MP3 P2P sites like LImewire
On Sat, Nov 7, 2009 at 2:35 PM, funkstar funkstar.41aq5z1257622...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: Newfiestang50;482785 Wrote: But what I meant to say is that a particular song when viewed using iTunes displays the album art fine but when I go out to the same MP3 in my music folder on my C: drive the album art in not there. How do I get it to display in both places. I am concerned about this because it is taking me alot of time to get this sorted out and if I abandon iTunes for a better music store later I dont want to have to do this all over again. Hmmm, perhaps iTunes keeps the artwork in its own database. I don't use iTunes, I just assumed it would embed the artwork. I know Squeezebox server can display iTunes artwork. Someone else is going to have to clarify this point. Yeah, iTunes keeps its artwork in a separate database on your machine, in a folder called Album Artwork, which is a subfolder of the main iTunes folder that holds your main iTunes db. I think Squeezebox Server simply parses this db along with the regular db. The artwork can be extracted manually by right clicking the artwork, selecting copy and pasting it into an image editor or something. That's a lot of annoying work if you have a lot of artwork, but you can also extract the artwork with a script using the iTunes COM interface. Sonos, of all places, has a guide for embedding the art directly into your music that they at least claim is compatible with iTunes 9, but I haven't tried it. It's at https://sonos.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/sonos.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=688 In any event, the artwork is not locked away in iTunes forever, but it's definitely not as simple as just jpegs downloaded to a folder, which would be ideal. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mp3HD
iPhone wrote: I am following what you did now and it’s closer but I’m still not convinced. Will rip a CD with MP3HD and see what I see. But this is all still just storage. Is it really truly lossless when played back? If I had an MP3HD player I could check it with the program Phil and I have been using to check equipment. So you understand that all of the audio information is present in the file, but you're not convinced as to the quality of the decoding software? Fair enough, I guess. AFAIK, the WinAmp plugin included with the encoder/decoder package is the only thing available right now that plays back the format. If that is poor in quality (I haven't done any double-blind listening tests or anything), that doesn't make the format not lossless any more than a bad gzip implementation makes the gzip format lossy. The data is all in there, so it definitely *can* be played back losslessly; if the bits are there, they can be played back. Also, if the files are as large as they are, why bother? So what if the file will supposedly play lossless on a MP3HD player and the same file can be used on my iPhone. It takes up way to much room! I am still much better off having the two libraries I have now. One ripped to FLAC and one converted to MP3 from the FLAC files. PC/Server storage is big time cheap and getting cheaper every day. Why would I have a single collection of MP3HD files that is going to severally limit the number of songs I can put on my iPhone? Couldn't agree more. I don't see the utility in this format. I do the same thing with parallel FLAC/AAC libraries. If iTunes could handle a hybrid lossy/lossless format like WavPack, I'd probably be on board with that, however. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mp3HD
2009/3/23 Mark Lanctot: (among other things) All we know about mp3HD is that it's 16/44.1 only, and since it's proprietary, we may not know much more. Actually, the readme file that comes with the encoder says: This program encodes WAV audio files to mp3HD files. The WAV audio files have to contain plain PCM samples in mono or stereo with a resolution of 16 bit per sample. The sample rate is restricted to one out of 32 kHz, 44.1 kHz, or 48 kHz. Anyhow, proprietary does not necessarily mean secret. It doesn't make any sense to distribute an encoder or license a third party to develop an encoder and then not inform the end user what type of uncompressed files the encoder is capable of processing. I couldn't agree more that WavPack has a superior implementation of this concept, though. I don't understand what having lossy and lossless all in one file like mp3HD gets you. I mean, yeah, you can play back the file on a legacy MP3 player and it'll play the lossy version, but that means you have to but a gigantic file on your iPod or whatever just to hear regular MP3 audio that's not even encoded with LAME (meaning no gapless play, among other drawbacks). The separate correction file method that WavPack uses would be ideal, but hardware support is almost non-existent. What's kept me maintaining separate lossless and lossy libraries so far instead of going the WavPack-only route is mainly that I can't play WavPack files on my iPod short of reflashing it with the RockBox firmware, which I just personally don't care to use. It's a viable one-library solution to maintaining only one library if you do happen to have a RockBox-capable player and a SqueezeBox, however. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mp3HD
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 5:34 PM, iPhone wrote: Seems I didn't make my point. It is very simple. Why bother with MP3 files with side information files attached to mathematically get to lossless when one can just use lossless files? I would bet the farm that one can't take an MP3HD file and remake the orginal file from the MP3HD file! Which is what my difinition of lossless is. Well, that hypothesis certainly seems testable: -- C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16mp3hdencoder.exe -br 32 -if test.wav -of mp3HD.mp3 [evaluation copyright notice snipped] frame 10091 Encoding successful (frame 10091) Playing time:263.5 seconds Encoding time:22.4 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16mp3hdDecoder.exe -if mp3hd.mp3 -of mp3hd.wav [evaluation copyright notice snipped] Decoding of file: mp3hd.mp3 Average bit rate: 816 kbit/s Decode frame 10091 in CD-Quality Decoded mp3hd.mp3 Playing time:263.5 seconds Decoding time:16.1 seconds C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16dir *.wav Volume in drive C has no label. Volume Serial Number is D8DB-EE1B Directory of C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16 03/23/2009 06:32 PM46,489,676 mp3hd.wav 01/20/2009 09:19 PM46,489,676 test.wav 2 File(s) 92,979,352 bytes 0 Dir(s) 23,435,821,056 bytes free C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16fc test.wav mp3HD.wav Comparing files test.wav and MP3HD.WAV FC: no differences encountered -- Looks the same to me. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] mp3HD
On Mon, Mar 23, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Calum Mackay calum.mac...@cdmnet.org wrote: iPhone wrote: Steve Bernard, Jr;409324 Wrote: C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16mp3hdencoder.exe -br 32 -if test.wav -of mp3HD.mp3 ... C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16mp3hdDecoder.exe -if mp3hd.mp3 -of mp3hd.wav ... C:\Documents and Settings\Steve\Desktop\mp3HD_Toolkit_for_Windows_2009-03-16fc test.wav mp3HD.wav Comparing files test.wav and MP3HD.WAV FC: no differences encountered ... From your post, it looks like you started with an MP3HD to start with and end up with WAV files to me Steve. Don't follow what that proved? If you look above, you can see that Steve started with a WAV file (test.wav) and used the encoder to turn it into an mp3HD file (mp3HD.mp3). He then used the decoder to turn that mp3HD file into a new WAV file (mp3HD.wav). He then compared the two WAV files: the original, and the WAV-mp3HD-WAV file, and found them to be identical. Clearly, mp3HD can be described as lossless, at least, if not actually useful :) Exactly right. The wav turns into an mp3HD file and then the decoder turns it back into a new wav. These are not just the same file in file size, but the Windows file compare utility shows them to be exactly the same, bit for bit. Test.wav and mp3HD.wav are the same file just as surely as if you copied the original file using the copy command, or put the wav in a zip file and then pulled it back out. If that's not lossless enough for you, then nothing is. Turn a wav into a FLAC file, and then decompress the FLAC to another wav and compare: you'll get the same result. Seriously, iPhone, if you doubt the results, try it for yourself at http://www.all4mp3.com/Software3.aspx (no Mac version, but I presume you either have Windows or Linux on your ToughBook). For those interested, the mp3HD file I made had a lossy bit that's 320 kbps CBR (if I understood the docs correctly). The file size of the MP3 was 26,262 kB with no tags, while the same file as a FLAC (level 8) with no tags is 21,315 kB. So about 5 MB difference, which would, I guess, account for the lossy bit. Not awful, but no great shakes. The wav I used to do the testing was actually uncompressed from a FLAC that I ripped with EAC from the newest Antony and the Johnsons CD. It's 4 and a half minutes, 16 bit stereo, 44.1 kHz. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Sites to Download Music in FLAC
On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:25 AM, bobharp wrote: Nettwerk Records offers a number of their albums and tracks as FLAC. http://www.werkshop.com/store/home.action Oh, in fact that reminds me that I left off a site in my previous list of places where I've bought FLAC tracks. I have also purchased FLACs directly from Merge Records at http://www.mergerecords.com/store/ -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Best Sites to Download Music in FLAC
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 2:06 PM, timequest wrote: I’m just getting started, so I don’t know the answers to what I’m sure are pretty obvious questions. I want to add to my music library, which is currently all from ripped CDs, by downloading sound/albums in FLAC. What are some good sites to go to? Here are all of the sites where I have personally bought FLAC music: www.boomkat.com (site is in England, and there are sometimes issues buying tracks from the US, but mainly I have had good experiences) www.bleep.com (FLAC selection is not huge and there isn't a good way to search for just FLAC versions, but I've bought a handful of albums there) www.zunior.com (site is Canadian, but I've never had trouble purchasing anything) www.musicishere.com (bit of an erratic selection, but some good finds) www.necodo.com (weird purchasing deal where you buy credits and then trade them in for tracks, but this has translated to good overall pricing for me) www.junodownload.com (if you purchase songs as wav you'll get the option to download in FLAC instead) www.digital-tunes.net (I have had some issues with glitchy downloads and wouldn't recommend using this site) Hope this helps. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does Logitech even care???
I'm not commenting on this thread as a whole but I want to correct a few misconceptions about iTunes where I am able. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 3:52 PM, stuart wrote: Getting back to the original post - why are you ripping using iTunes? Here are some of the questions I would ask if I were doing what you are doing: Doesn't this put you into a position of always transcoding music from Apples AAC format? (Ripping inside of iTunes probably creates these types of files, right? This is not native to SB players AFAIK. So, will your server always need to transcode from AAC to MP3 or FLAC or something else on the fly every time you play somethine?) AAC is the default ripping format of iTunes, but iTunes also comes with built-in support for ripping to AIFF, Apple Lossless, MP3 and WAV. But, yes, the SqueezeBox firmware does not natively decode AAC files. If you rip with iTunes will you always have to run iTunes to access your music? (So, correct me if I am wrong. But you will need to run iTunes and SC and MySQL and what ever transcoding software you need to convert from iTunes to a stream the SB will understand. Wow, what a lot of overhead for something that should be simple.) This is incorrect. Music ripped with iTunes can be played back using any other application that can decode that file type. You can point SqueezeCenter at your AAC/MP3 library and never tell it iTunes is in any way involved and they will play fine (tracks you've ripped yourself or iTunes Plus tracks, that is). iTunes integration with SqueezeCenter has to do with SqueezeCenter reading your iTunes library information for info about your music. iTunes is not invoked in any way to facilitate the actual playback. If you rip with iTunes now before they get rid of DRM will you be locked into iTunes. Will there be a reason that will cause you to re-rip your CD collection after DRM is removed from iTunes (if/when that happens)? This is another misconception. Music that you rip yourself with iTunes has never been encumbered by DRM. Only certain music files purchased from the iTunes store use DRM that would restrict playback with other players. If you rip with iTunes will you be able to easily support other music appliances like sony walkman phones, gramin GPSs, ... ect with out re-ripping your CD collection? Yes, if your other device can play MP3, AAC, AIFF, WAV, or Apple Lossless then you would be able to play back files ripped with iTunes on those devices. What I do is rip my CD collection to MP3s which is fairly universal, even w/iTunes. And if you are really picky, you can try FLAC, which is not as universal. This way I can play back my collection on just about every music appliance I own. I personally maintain a FLAC library ripped with EAC for my SqueezeCenter music and use foobar2000 and the Nero AAC encoder to maintain a lossy library for my iTunes/iPod. I find that this works well for my purposes. However, using iTunes as a ripper does not cause the sorts of far-reaching problems you seem to be imagining. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Does Logitech even care???
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:55 PM, stuart wrote: This is incorrect. Music ripped with iTunes can be played back using any other application that can decode that file type. You can point SqueezeCenter at your AAC/MP3 library and never tell it iTunes is in any way involved and they will play fine (tracks you've ripped yourself or iTunes Plus tracks, that is). iTunes integration with SqueezeCenter has to do with SqueezeCenter reading your iTunes library information for info about your music. iTunes is not invoked in any way to facilitate the actual playback. Ok, but what about all those bought files? I thought, and maybe I'm wrong here, that the SC / iTunes feature was created to allow playing back of the bought (i.e. DRM encoded) music. Nope. SC will not play back a DRM-encumbered AAC file from the iTunes store. Other appliances like the Sonos or Roku players have the same limitation. In fact, as far as I know the only hardware players that will play protected AAC files are the Airport Express and Apple TV/ If you rip with iTunes will you be able to easily support other music appliances like sony walkman phones, gramin GPSs, ... ect with out re-ripping your CD collection? Yes, if your other device can play MP3, AAC, AIFF, WAV, or Apple Lossless then you would be able to play back files ripped with iTunes on those devices. Again, I'm betting most iTunes users rip mindlessly to AAC. Further, I'm betting AAC files don't play back on the above music appliances. Walkman phones have played back AAC since 2005. (cf. http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/4998/ ). AAC is also supported on Blackberry phones, Palm devices (including phones), Nokia phones, and others. From some brief research, it looks like Garmin GPS-only units will only play MP3 files. The Garmin nuvifone plays AAC, as do many car stereo units with Garmin GPS integrated such as Alpine, Kenwood, etc. I'm no codec evangelist, but I do think it's worth pointing out that AAC is not some marginal codec that nobody supports. There are plenty of software and hardware products that will play the files. Hell, even the Zune will play AAC files. If you have a whole library of *non-DRM* AAC files in your iTunes and you decide the iPod isn't for you, you can easily take those files with you to, for example, a Zune, a Creative Zen, a Sandisk Sansa View, any number of Cowon players, or an Archos (although it looks like you have to buy a plugin to make it work on the Archos. Blech), so you're in no way locked into Apple hardware. Say, would you be able to solve my biggest iTunes problem? I create m3u files when I rip my CD collections. This works well on the many music clients I use including SqueezeCenter. But iTunes always creates double entries because of these files. I understand if the paths match and are absolute this may not happen. But I routinely mount my collection on different computers at different locations. Therefore I'm not willing to forsake the powerful advantage of relative paths just to satisfy iTunes. Besides, windows does not handle absolute paths well as the user has little control over the mounting point (i.e. the windows drive letter). Is there an iTunes setting such that it will ignore or properly use the m3u files? I don't have a great answer for this as I too find that iTunes has pretty crummy support for external playlists. I guess the simplest option would be to not use the Add file to library or Add folder to library functions within iTunes, but instead right click at the top of your library and select Search. Then search for *.mp3 and wait for all the results to come up. Then ctrl-A to select all and drag them all into the iTunes library, That'll let you import only your MP3 files a none of your playlists. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Squeezeslave and last.fm scrobbling
On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 3:44 AM, Kvaks kvaks.3ktaoz1229935...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: First, do questions about squeezeslave go in this forum? Anyway, my problem is that squeezeslave will submit its listening now info to last.fm (it shows on the site), but the tracks aren't submitted for real. That is, only the currently playing track is showing at any time, and is replaced when a new track is being played. None of the tracks are registered for history. I am actually seeing this same behavior with my SB1 recently using SC 7.3. The SB3 on the same server registers its last.fm plays just fine. It was working fine with the SB1 until a couple weeks ago, but I haven't yet put in any real investigative effort to see what's up. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:04 AM, Robin Bowes wrote: I believe AAC/AAC+ is not possible because of licensing issues on Apple's part. I may be wrong. R. AAC and AAC+ do require a patent license to develop and distribute codecs, but that has nothing to do with Apple. AAC is part of the MPEG standard and was developed by a number of companies in cooperation. Apple does not own or control the format, though they robably have the highest visibility of any of the standard's proponents. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] SB2/3 Modular Native Codecs in Firmware
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 11:25 AM, CatBus catbus.3kirzn1229444...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: If space in the firmware were the only limiting factor, that would be a decent solution--but as Robin points out, vendors refusing to license codecs is a much more serious issue. AAC licensing is fairly straightforward with a per-unit fee for consumer devices. See http://www.vialicensing.com/Licensing/AAC_fees.cfm and http://www.vialicensing.com/Licensing/AAC_FAQ.cfm I would expect that getting a license to write your own WMA codec is a much bigger hurdle than licensing AAC, but that might be easier than I think, as well. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is It Possible To Get AOL-XM Radio Stations?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 2:37 PM, vain4 vain4.3k9ron1229024...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: I was working on my squeezecenter PC last night so I thought I would browse around squeezenetwork a bit last night while waiting for a drive to format. I noticed that AOL radio can now be streamed on squeezenetwork without a paid XM subscription. I just had a look in SqueezeNetwork, but I didn't see any such thing. Where do you see the AOL stations? -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Is It Possible To Get AOL-XM Radio Stations?
On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 5:48 PM, toby10 toby10.3ka0hb1229035...@no-mx.forums.slimdevices.com wrote: I just had a look in SqueezeNetwork, but I didn't see any such thing. Where do you see the AOL stations? -Steve RadioTime. On SN RadioTime is broken down into Local, Music, Talk, etc... via Browse. AOL Radio comes up wherever they have a stream for that genre or browse criteria. -- toby10 Excellent, thanks. I found them all together under Music - Internet Only - AOL Radio, too. Can't believe I missed that. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod Genius similar to MusicIP
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 8:43 AM, Merlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ezkcdude;338809 Wrote: .OTOH, MusicIP can identify every single song in your library and let you create mixes based on every song. Genius can't do that... It does create playlists using the music already on your PC. In Itunes 8 a new playlist called 'Genius' is automatically created. Just start playing a track from your library then click on that playlist - you'll have a bunch of similar songs in there. -- Merlin The previous poster's point was that MusicIP performs an acoustical analysis on every track in your library and can offer suggestions for any of them. I downloaded iTunes 8 yesterday to try out the Genius functions, and the first three tracks I played generated no Genius playlist or recommendations. I thought maybe it was just broken, but I found a track that worked eventually. At first I postulated like the previous poster that it only worked on songs that are for sale in the iTunes Music Store, but a little investigation showed this not to be the case, either. I tested with an album which is not for sale on iTMS (nor are any of its tracks available in compilations or anything), and found that about 50% of its tracks were capable of generating Genius playlists, and the other half caused iTunes to tell me the song was unavailable for Genius. It's possible that these tracks will become mixable as Apple analyzes more data uploaded by additional users, but I don't really know how their system works, so. MusicIP, on the other hand, can analyze literally any audio file you give it and do its best to make recommendations. With regard to iPod Classic functionality, I believe you won't get the playlist called Genius on your iPod, but if you like a Genius playlist you have, you can use the Save Playlist button to create a playlist that can be synced to your iPod. I'll give that a little more examination at home tonight, though. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] iPod Genius similar to MusicIP
On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 10:03 AM, Nonreality [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did it introduce a new tag to your tracks? Or is it just saved in Itunes? I really don't want Itunes tagging my music. I just downloaded it but haven't ran it yet. I guess I'll just load a couple of albums in it to see. It did not modify or tag any of the files in my library at all. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] No mixer links
On Mon, Mar 24, 2008 at 3:33 AM, Michael Herger wrote: I'm running the svn SqueezeCenter 7.0 on Ubuntu Linux. I'm at revision 17963, currently, and I noticed since yesterday that I don't see the MusicIP mixer links in my web interface or the icons on my I'm sorry, I've introduced a bug in 17928 (http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=7537) I'll take care of it asap. I just updated my local svn and everything looks good. Thanks, Michael! -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] No mixer links
I'm running the svn SqueezeCenter 7.0 on Ubuntu Linux. I'm at revision 17963, currently, and I noticed since yesterday that I don't see the MusicIP mixer links in my web interface or the icons on my SB3. I verified that the MusicIP server is running and did a rescan in the webui and definitely saw it import the MusicIP data, so it looks like it should know it's there. Plus I ran scanner.pl with the --musicmagic switch to see if that would make any difference, but it doesn't look like it. I see the data is getting into the database, but I can't make any mixes. Is there any other info I could get in order to get an idea of what's wrong? I was also thinking of filing a bug, but I never know when I should do that instead of just bringing stuff up here. Anywho, if anyone is in the same boat or has an idea of what I should check, I'd like to hear it. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tune In Assistance Please
On 4/10/07, btcompute
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Hi,
I'm trying to tune in WZLX (www.wzlx.com) on the squeezebox.
I can listen using my web browser using:
http://cbsplayer.streamtheworld.com/?CALLSIGN=WZLXFM
mikesradioworld.com says pretty much the same thing:
javascript:wzlx=void(window.open('http://player.streamtheworld.com/CBS/?CALLSIGN=WZLXFM','wzlx','width=600,height=360,top=30,left=30'))
Strip out the code to open a new window, and the url is the same.
Can anyone help me with this?
This is a Flash-based stream. The audio data is embedded in the swf
file. URLSnooper doesn't show any auxiliary audio streams apart from
the Flash. I don't believe you'll be able to get the SqueezeBox to
play this directly.
-Steve
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Re: [slim] Nokia N800 browser crashes?
On 4/5/07, ds2021 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The N800 in conjunction with the 770 skin is an excellent means of controlling Slimserver, especially with muliple SB setups. I have never experienced an N800 browser crash on Slimserver or with any of the other sites I frequent with it (Gmail, Ebay primarily). Having used a PocketPC and various of its browsers to serve this purpose previously, I can safely say that the N800 is much better suited to the task for a number of reasons. I just received my N800 yesterday. So far, I have had one browser crash. I was browsing some random site and the browser just disappeared. However, I then upgraded to the newest software version from Nokia's website, and haven't seen a problem since. So far, I'm happy with it, except that it renders my GMail window weirdly, unless I use the standard HTML version. As a SlimServer remote, it's been great so far, although the song progress bar on the Nokia770 skin is a touch out of sync with the real progress of the song. This isn't a huge deal since it's not like I sit and watch the remote while it's playing music. I've also had good luck with using the media player on the N800 to stream music directly to the unit from SlimServer. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Existing Mysql Server - DBI version problem?
On 9/22/06, Johnny Stork [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought it best to start a new thread now. I upgraded Mysql to 5.0.24a standard...so far so good. But trying to start ss I still get these errors?? Is this just a DBI.pm issue/upgrade? I'm seeing these same errors. I just deleted server/CPAN/DBI.pm and it started just fine. Actually, my YAML::Syck is the wrong version, too, so I have had to delete server/CPAN/YAML/Syck.pm whenever I upgrade, too. As long as you have the CPAN packages installed for yourself, it should work right without the Slim-provided ones. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver/Softsqueeze and FLAC files
On 5/16/06, Mark Lanctot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was certain that SlimServer used CBR encoding but the LAME Quality Level setting seems to indicate it may use VBR? Surely not, 9 would be awful at 45-85 kbps. Hopefully someone clarifies this. My understanding is that Slimserver uses ABR (Average Bitrate) encoding, which is a form of encoding that allows for variable bitrates but with a targeted average bitrate. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Market for older Slimp3 and Squeezeboxes?
On 5/4/06, larryrowland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first guy decided to not purchase it so I am now talking with the next interested person. If one of your squeezeboxes is an SB2 (and you haven't sold it yet), email me at steve (at) loungent (dot) com and let me know how much you want for it. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Market for older Slimp3 and Squeezeboxes?
I have a wired SqueezeBox 1G and I've been considering moving to a wired SqueezeBox2 for the FLAC support. I'd love to buy someone's SB2 if there's one available, and I could sell the SB1G once that deal's worked out. -Steve ___ discuss mailing list discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Who are you on LastFM?
http://www.last.fm/user/doidy/ -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Zaireeka
On 2/13/06, JohnQuirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd rather like to be able to do this now with my SBs, but I can't see a way of kicking all the players off, or a way to sync them, given that they're actually playing different tracks. Has anyone got any ideas? I don't see that you'd be able to sync them in the traditional Squeezebox sense, since it'd be different tracks in the DB. However, if you queue up the tracks in each player (CD 1 Track 1 on Squeezebox A, CD 2 Track 2 on Squeezebox B. etc) and then used an IR blaster you could send the Play command to each SB at the same time. This would give you the same experience and using four CD players and like playing it with CD players, you'd probably want to stop between tracks, line everything up, and start again for the next song because there'd be a teeny bit of drift, probably. Michael's idea about using the CLI also sounds good if you don't have IR hardware. For my part, I wound up using software to mix the four CDs down to one stereo file and I listen to that on my SB and my portable player. It sorta defeats the purpose, but at least I can listen to the record. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] FLAC strangeness
On 2/7/06, oli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the last couple of days, when opening up the FLAC frontend, a windows installer window pops up telling me it is trying to install Microsoft Office Professional Edition. Only after cancelling this three times does the FLAC frontend open. I have tried running a full suite of anti-spyware and virus programmes, defragmenting, and uninstalling and re-installing FLAC, but all to no avail. Is Microsoft Office Professional Edition actually installed on your system? If it is, it sounds like you might want to try repairing that installation. If it's not, you can try using the Microsoft Windows Installer CleanUp Utility to clear out the cruft of its installer that's been left behind. You can get that tool from http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;290301 -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Anyone listen to David Gray -- White Ladder?
On 12/29/05, mattg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funkstar Wrote: as a side note, anyone know how to rip the hidden track on this album? (not an easy track to find on there either ;) ) I think you would have to get a complete image of the disk and cut just that part out of it. I couldn't find any way to do it via normal routes. I decided it wasn't worth the effort. Since I've been taking full-disk images + cue sheets as backups, I've found a couple discs with these pre-gap hidden tracks where I hadn't known they were there. EAC will show that the disc index is kind of funny, so it's pretty easy to spot them. The easiest way I've found to rip them to individual tracks is to manually edit the cue sheet. The first index for the first song will be at like 04:51:02 or whatever, depending on how long the hidden track is. So I bump ahead all of the song numbers on the cue sheet by one so TRACK 01 AUDIO becomes TRACK 02 AUDIO, etc. Then I add in a new track one with an INDEX 01 of 00:00:00. Open that cue in foobar2000 and I'll be able to see and play all the tracks including the hidden one and convert each track individually. This is, I realize, still a lot of effort and typing, but for me it's a lot simpler than using a wave editor to yank the audio out or something. I don't know of any rippers that will rip these pre-gap tracks correctly, since they all seem to respect the CD's TOC as far as when Track 1 starts. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] And what did santa bring you this morning?
On 12/25/05, ceejay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we seem to have had a large number of CDs in our stockings - 12 altogther in the house, 7 of them for me! The history of the bonzos (double), Kate Bush's new Aerial (double) and The Remains of tom Lehrer (treble). So the first thing to do was to get ripping! Here my wife got me the Complete Motown Singles vol.2 and vol. 3 (she got me the first volume for my birthday in May) from http://www.hip-oselect.com/ . Volume 2 is 4 discs, and Volume 3 is 5, so I've got the same number of discs to rip as you, looks like. It's possible I'll make the move to an SB3 after tax season, but we'll see. Hard to convince my wife we should trade up when from her perspective the SB1 is Just Fine. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Playing songs not in library
What I do for this sort of thing is run an Apache webserver on the same machine as Slimserver. I put the mp3s I want to listen to in a folder underneath the webroot, and then use the Internet Radio Tune In Now to point to the URL (like http://localhost/mp3temp/newsong.mp3 ). This will play the track, but treat it like an Internet radio station and thus not add it to the db. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Virtual tracks to remove duplicates.
On 11/8/05, oreillymj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if this has been asked before, but I'd like to remove a lot of the duplicate tracks in my collection and only have 1 copy of each file. But I'd also like to have a virtual copy of certain tracks in my collection. I know I can achieve kind of what I want with playlists, but not exactly. e.g I have 4 U2 albums with all tracks ripped to my library. I also have U2 greatest hit which replicate most of what's on the 4 albums. I'd like to only rip the new tracks off the greatest hits, but have pointers to all the other tracks using the existing tracks off the 4 albums. So when I view the U2 greatest hits in the UI, I'd like to see all the songs that are on the CD case whether they exist as real files or not, becuase those songs exist somewhere in my collection. I thought about doing this in Linux with symlinks, but then I realized the file tags would be all wrong. Like, the album name would be tagged incorrectly, and most likely so would the track numbers of the individual songs. I suppose you could use file and folder naming and have it guess that info, but even then you'd be out of luck with more sophisticated tags. However, if that's good enough for you to have Slimserver guess based on directory placement, you might want to check the XP Resource Kit for a tool called fsutil (assuming you have Windows XP and the hard drive is formatted with NTFS) and use that to make hardlinks of those files. The syntax would be like: fsutil hardlink create c:\artistname\albumname\04-Song Name.mp3 c:\artist\Greatest Hits\01-Song Name.mp3 I'm not sure what Slimserver does with hardlinks in Windows (I don't run Slimsever on my Windows machine anymore), but it might work. In my experience, apps have no idea that hardlinks aren't completely separate files. It could be worth a try. If anyone has any suggestion about file tagging using linked files (maybe cue sheets would work a bit better), I'd love to hear it, but I'm not holding out much hope for that. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Virtual tracks to remove duplicates.
On 11/8/05, Bart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have done this and it works seamlessly (except for the track number problem) It is also good for tracks featuring two artists, you can make the track appear under both artist's names. However I subsequently put a bigger disk into the system and copied the files across whereupon NTFS converted the links into files (because the links only work on one physical volume) Now I have some unknown quantity of duplicates in my system and have hesitated to create more links because I am bound to upgrade the disk sooner rather than later. Anyone got a useful duplicate finder? Not this this would help your current duplicate situation, but the Resource Kit also includes a program called hlscan.exe that goes through and tells you all the hard links on the volume so you can remove them and add them back later on the new volume. Of course that doesn't sound very fun, either, though I suppose it could be automated with a script. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Tuning In To A Radio Station
On 10/27/05, Steve Baumgarten [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Neil Cameron wrote: I want to access Paste Radio via Slimserver - it's on http://www.accuradio.com/paste/. But the stream URL appears to be very well hidden; does anone know how to get it to work? In the past people here have mentioned URL Snooper: http://www.donationcoder.com/Software/Mouser/urlsnooper/ Okay, I've just given this a try and sniffed my network connection while tracks were playing, and it looks like Paste doesn't provide a single continuous stream, but rather it selects a new track once the previous track is finished. That's how it allows for the listener to select artists he or she doesn't want to hear. For example, when Paste Radio was playing Radiohead's No Surprises, I used URL Snooper and came up with only these four multimedia URLs: rtsp://209.133.33.251/ss/radiohead_nosurprises.wma rtsp://209.133.33.251/ss/radiohead_nosurprises.wma/audio;Seq=2416 rtspt://209.133.33.251/ss/radiohead_nosurprises.wma mms://209.133.33.251/ss/radiohead_nosurprises.wma It seems to me that without implementing Paste's track selection code, you can only play single tracks. I guess if you snoop for a long time, you could build up a pretty large list of tracks they offer and make your own playlist, but that doesn't seem to be what you're after. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] How to turn off the refresh click sound?
On 10/15/05, tonymuffin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know I have seen this here before but cannot find it. SlimServer refreshes itself every so many seconds. When it does the browser makes a clicking .wav sound. Where do I turn that off? I'm assuming you're talking about IE on Windows. Go into the Sounds and Audio Devices control in your Control Panel (I think pre-XP it's Sounds and Multimedia). There's a tab where you can pick the sounds that play for all sorts of different Windows events like startup, shutdown, error, etc. Look for the sound labeled Start Navigation (on XP this is under the Windows Explorer heading), and change that sound to None. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver over Internet?
On 9/2/05, Robin Bowes wrote: Roy Owen wrote: For all of you that use Windows for workstations etc. http://www.bitvise.com has a very good (free) ssh client that is simple to setup for this (or any other) purpose. I use this solution at work with an SBG and it works great. PuTTY is the defacto standard ssh client for Windows: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ Details of how to configure port forwarding are here: http://the.earth.li/~sgtatham/putty/0.58/htmldoc/Chapter3.html#using-port-forwarding I too recently started using Tunnelier from Bitvise after PuTTY proved to do a pretty lousy job forwarding here to work without crashing. Cygwin also worked pretty well, but was a bit more than I needed here in the office for day-to-day stuff. I do still find PuTTY much easier to work with than Tunnelier for connecting quickly to remote shells that I don't intend to stay in all day. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Praise for 'Random Play' Plug-in
On 8/19/05, Greg Klanderman wrote: Slimserver doesn't actually support multiple genre tags per track separated by semicolons, does it? Now that would definitely make the genres a lot more useful.. From the Behavior portion of Server Settings: SlimServer can extract multiple artist, album titles and genres from the tags inside your music files. If SlimServer finds any of the words or characters below in your tags, it will create individual listings for each item. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Can I play songs not in my library?
On 8/1/05, cckanne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I put a symlink in my audiodir pointing to the files, and do a rescan, I can play them. I would like to avoid having this symlink and doing a rescan, because my voicemail messages (at least most of them :-) are not really part of my audio collection How can I play an external file ad-hoc, just once? One thing you might want to look at is running a web server like Apache on the computer where the voicemail files are and have the directory where they are so you can access them with, say, http://localhost/voicemail/msg1.flac You could then paste the URL for the file you want into the Internet Radio page and stream it to the SqueezeBox. I've done this on my machine using Windows Apache and Ogg Vorbis files. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Can I play songs not in my library?
On 8/2/05, radish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BKDotCom Wrote: Browse Music Folder is still restricted to the Music Folder path Well yes, but if I dump a load of files in the music path but don't do a rescan, I can still find them with Browse Music Folder. That's my point I think... This would add those files to the music library when they are browsed to, which I don't think the Original Poster wants. Plus they would eventually show up when he does a rescan. I suppose if you put the files in the music folder in a temp directory, used Browse Music Folder to get to them, deleted them when you were done, and had an automated overnight rescan, it might suit you well enough. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Is there any software version that will actually work for me?
On 7/29/05, Justme [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyway, there doesn't seem to be any difference I can see between the ID3tags. When checking two different songs, one that displays both title and artist, and one that only shows the artist, both are filled out in all major fields. There are no unusal characters, no major difference in field lengths, no difference if spaces were used or not. Is there a chance that some of these files might have both ID3v1 and ID3v2 tags at the same time? One tag might be right and the other might be incomplete. I have run across MP3s of my own that had both set, and I can easily see by looking at the file properties using WinAmp. Anywho, I have no idea what SlimServer does with MP3s that have both tags, but it probably just looks at one set and ignores the other. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Music Library Sync files
On 7/5/05, radish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Open up a command prompt and type robocopy /? - that's what I use. Robocopy isn't installed by default on Windows XP, in my experience. It's available for free as part of the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools (runs fine on XP) at http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffddisplaylang=en -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Can SqueezeBox send Wake-on-LAN packets?
On 6/20/05, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting getprogs [EMAIL PROTECTED]: This is, as far as my installation is concerned, the only thing missing for the wife to accept the solution... interesting that so many seem to blame the wife. Actually, a funny thing is right after I joined this list last fall or whatever, I told my wife that it seemed like it was populated primarily by a bunch of married guys. She asked if they were all trying to get everything working perfectly to retroactively justify to their wives the two hundred-some bucks they just spent on the thing. :) I do feel for her, as since then I've turned into one of those FLAC/cuesheet/poring-over-EAC-logs types of guys. But, hey, she's learned how to use the web interface enough to pick her own music, so I guess that can take the place. Also, now I get to look forward to the day that half my FLACs are The Wiggles or Raffi. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Fwd: RSS Plugin
Hey, wait, this isn't a third-party plugin. Let me move this to the proper forum. Sorry for the noise. -- Forwarded message -- Hey all, After updating my svn of the 6.1 trunk, my RSS plugin seems to have stopped parsing feeds. I get error messages to that effect as the server over and over attempts and fails to parse, which seems to be bogging down my system (Ubuntu Linux) a bit. I tried parallel installs of both the latest nightly and the 5/31 nightly, and while the latest also fails to work, 5/31 works fine, so it looks like a newly-introduced issue. Let me know if any debugging logs would be helpful, or maybe someone already knows what change might have messed it up. Thanks, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: RSS Plugin
On 6/2/05, sbjaerum wrote: It might be related to svn check-in 3322. If so, the problem was fixed in check-in 3330. Steinar You are quite right. I did an svn update and it's all good. Thankee, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: FREE (almost) - Squeezebox 1
On 6/1/05, bmccall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to contribute. How do I contact you? Oh, hey look, the email address doesn't show up in the forums like it does the mailing list. He said to email him off-list. and for those of us receiving email versions of this forum, the post came from: reeve_mike (AT) hotmail (DOT) com (obfuscated a teeny bit, but you know what to do) -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Play for Sure songs
On 5/13/05, Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: you can download unprotected music for a fee, Legally? Where? eMusic sells downloads of non-DRMed MP3 files, though I dunno if that's available from outside the US. Also, more interestingly, there's http://www.audiolunchbox.com which sells music (apparently worldwide) in unrestricted MP3 *and* Ogg Vorbis formats. If they would start selling FLAC files, I might actually start buying from them regularly, especially since I see they have the new Magnolia Electric Company and Architecture in Helsinki albums. I'm still too much of a sucker for the physical purchase of a CD with its usage as a backup and its liner notes and whatnot, though. I'm sure you could find other individual labels and whatnot that sell their stuff in an unrestricted format. A decent number of UK labels sell unrestricted MP3s through playloudershop.com None of these are trying to live in that dodgy legal greyarea that one certain Russian site is inhabiting. If I were going to buy a lot of digital downloads, I'd definitely be after a non-DRM solution just to make it as future-proof as possible. I'd probably transcode a lossy file into FLAC just so that it's in a completely open format (wouldn't change the sound quality) and put it in my archive backups. But that's just me being anal. But, like, philosphically speaking, it's whatever floats your boat. I did a trial of Raphsody when I got my cable modem, and I just didn't find that there was enough music that I liked for me to keep paying them month after month. But if people like Christian would like for the market to reject DRM, then I guess the best way is to turn as many people onto the the *legal* DRM-free purchase sites, that way everyone votes with their wallet. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: flac and slimp3 devices
On 5/10/05, Michael Herger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've downloaded lame-3.96.1.tar.gz to the folder where slim.exe and slimserver.pl are but still no joy. Move it to the slimserver's Bin folder (or the appropriate sub folder) instead Actually, lame-3.96.1.tar.gz doesn't sound like it'll do you much good in that folder, either. You need lame.exe. If lame.exe is inside that tar.gz, extract it and put it in Bin/MSWin32-x86-multi-thread. If, as I suspect, you've got a Linux source distro of lame, you'll need to look around and make sure you've got a native Windows version with lame.exe. (You're talking about slim.exe and flac.exe, so I'm just assuming you're talking about Windows here. If you're running something else, there's a whole mess of other stuff you need to do) -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Classifying music
On Apr 8, 2005 9:24 AM, Max wrote: Are there any helpful resources out there that would help me in the daunting task of classifying all my newly-ripped music? I'm using EAC to rip to FLAC, so I currently have the cddb genres set for most of my music. However, these tend to be distinctly variable (Alanis Morissette = folk, for example). I therefore need to go through and sanitize everything, but in many cases I really don't have any idea what genre to use. I want to be able to use genre's to tell SlimServer to play music at random of a certain style, but working out what to call Pink Floyd, Royksopp, Mark Knopfler etc is really quite difficult! I have an awful lot of trouble with this subject, myself, which is basically because I only find music classification to be helpful in the very broadest of terms, or for very specific matters. The last thing I want to do is have to worry about where the line is between folk and country, or jazz and fusion, or indie pop and indie rock, or trance and goa, etc, when I'm just trying to get all of my music tagged and set up on the SlimServer. I don't want to ever be in a position of, Now where is that artist? Are they hard rock or are they metal? Consequently, I currently run with 4 genres: Xmas, Classical, Spoken Word/Comedy, and General. This is not really a great setup, all things considered, but the basic concept is that everything in General I'm more or less happy to hear mixed in with or in sequence with anything else, whereas I want the other three classifications not to encroach on my usual listening habits unless I select them specifically. Now, if I wanted to look for an online resource for getting the genre for specific acts, I'd head on over to http://www.allmusic.com/ They have a pretty reasonable breakdown of top-level genres for Popular Music and Classical Music (although 'Cajun' having its own top-level all to itself is a bit puzzling), and there are countless Styles and sub-Styles under each genre. So Pink Floyd, for example, is in the main top-level genre 'Rock' and with styles like Prog-Rock/Art Rock, Psychedelic, British Psychedelia, Hard Rock, etc. These are all correct to varying degrees over the course of the band's career. One option is to use SlimServer's ability to separate multiple items in tags by adding both the top-level genre and one or more of the styles which you think are appropriate. So you can have several artists that all show up under 'Jazz', but they also show up separately under 'Bop', 'Fusion', 'Swing', or whatever. In my case I use a plus sign for a tag separator, so (back to Pink Floyd) I could tag the songs on 'Piper at the Gates of Dawn' as 'Rock + Psychedlic' and tag the songs on Atom Heart Mother as 'Rock + Prog-Rock/Art Rock'. That way all of my Pink Floyd albums show up under the Rock genre in Slimserver, but they also show up under their respective places in the other genres. I'm actually liking this line of reasoning enough that I might do this, myself. It'd be hell on my portable player, though, which doesn't understand separators. You also asked about MoodLogic and MusicMagic. These are programs that will scan your music library and internally make decisions about which kinds of music go together. So after it scans you can select a song or artist or genre and have the program make you a custom playlist of songs it has determined are a good stylistic match. I haven't used MoodLogic much, but in toying with MusicMagic, I know there's also a feature where you can select a bunch of songs manually and label them all as a certain 'mood', and MusicMagic can use these connections to figure out based on what data it has what other things it thinks belongs in that mood. It's all pretty neat, but it's no real solution for creating genre tags, if that's what you're after. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] OT: Pink Floyd - The Wall strangeness
On Apr 7, 2005 3:04 PM, Christian Pernegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally got the studio version of Pink Floyd's The Wall and ripped/encoded it as FLAC, as always. The album was playing in original order and on repeat... The last track of disc 2 ended with someone talking, who gets cut off rather apruptly, followed by about half a second of silence, then some more silence at the beginning of disc 1, and more or less the same melody continued for a few seconds. The snippet of Outside the Wall at the beginning of In the Flesh? (the first song on the first disc) is a deliberate cyclical thing. If you listen closely, at the very end of Outside the Wall, the voice begins, Isn't this where- and gets cut off. The beginning of In the Flesh? continues the sentence with -we came in? with some more of the accordion melody before the actual first song comes in. I dunno if it was cut in such a way that it'd be seamless if played on endless repeat like that, but it should be close. The little gap might be part of your FLACs or inserted as the server queues up the first album again. But the duplication of the music at the very beginning of the record is supposed to be there. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fishbone Home button problem
On Apr 5, 2005 11:39 AM, kdf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Quoting Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I just noticed that the Home button doesn't work when browsing the library. I am using the 4/4/05 nightly of the 6.0.1 trunk. This is running on Windows XP using either Firefox or IE. already fixed. try 5/4/05. Was there also a fix checked into the trunk? Mine still seems to have a broken link even after wiping my browser cache and the HTML cache on the disk. I usually pull the SVN version down from there and run it to be sure I have the absolute bleeding edge. Am I missing out on fixes by doing that? -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Fishbone Home button problem
On Apr 5, 2005 3:21 PM, kdf wrote: oh, you would need to do a reload of the whole page since the header links never reload the header by themselves. output of javascript console would help. it seems to be working for me tho. -kdf Oh, hey, never mind me. Totally killing my browser and restarting it seemed to work okay. Lingering traces of cache that didn't get wiped or something is my guess. Thanks for looking. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] 3/26 build skin highlights don't change
On Sat, 26 Mar 2005 20:46:58 -0600, Avi Schwartz wrote: For a while now, including the 3/26 build of 6.0, skins that highlight the current playing track (for example Bagpuss and NBMU) don't move the highlight when moving to the next track. I have certainly noticed this, too, and I've done a little testing to see when it does and doesn't update. I use Fishbone, normally, which also highlights tracks, but it's the same for the skins you mentioned. If playing an album or playlist or whatever, and one song ends and the next starts playing, the current track highlight does not change, even if I manually reload the browser (it does this in Internet Explorer and Firefox). Even if I wipe my cache, kill the HTML cache on the server or whatever, it never highlights any track but the first. Ways I can make it highlight the correct track: 1. Use the Next or Previous Track buttons on the skin to skip to the next track. The display will update right away to correctly show the currently playing track. 2. Change skins. When I change from one skin to another, it automatically updates the highlighting. 3. Change the URL from defining the skin to using the skin selected in System Settings. By this I mean say I normally have Fishbone as my skin. If I change the URL in my browser from http://servername:9000 to http://servername:9000/Fishbone/ it will also update the highlighted track. This is svn revision 2777, running on Ubuntu Linux. I'm using IE and Firefox on Windows. Hope this is helpful. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Running Perl as a service?
On Fri, 25 Mar 2005 17:41:43 + (UTC), Neil Sleightholm wrote: Alternatively, Microsoft used to have a resource tool call srvany that could run any program as service but I'm not sure where you would get it from. This is in the Windows Server 2003 Resource Kit Tools: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=9d467a69-57ff-4ae7-96ee-b18c4790cffddisplaylang=en I used to use FireDaemon to run the perl Slimserver when I ran the server on Windows. That isn't free, however, but it's at http://www.firedaemon.com/ -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Public radio stations added to Slim Devices Picks
On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 21:38:43 -0500, Damon Riley wrote: Anyone know if one of these stations is a Pacifica network station? KPFA is a Pacifica station. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Slimserver suddenly not reading Ogg Vorbis tags
On Thu, 17 Mar 2005 22:44:29 -0800, Dan Sully [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * Steve Bernard, Jr shaped the electrons to say... and messages like it instead of it reading my Vorbis tags. This only started happening today after updating the server. I checked on my Ogg::Vorbis::Header installation to make sure it didn't disappear (Dan helped me out by suggesting I build my own last week) and it seems to be fine. Steve - so I took a look at the problem, and it looked nasty, some Inline/C can't load issue with the Ogg::Vorbis::Header module. So - I decided to see what was slow about the Ogg::Vorbis::Header::PurePerl module, which is originally why I told you to try the compiled version. Upon inspection of the code - I came to the conclusion that the author was doing some.. unoptimal things. So I fixed them. :) Hey guys on the list, remember when Sean posted here all excited that they'd hired Dan Sully and I was all like Who? No? You weren't in my house at the time that I read that email? Well, anywho, I get it now. Okay, I tried this out when I got up this morning, and at first time it rebuilt I wound up with like 300 tracks listed with No Album, No Artist, and No Genre. vorbiscomment -l was showing correct tags, so I rebuilt again with --d_info to get the output, but this time it didn't do it, so I'll give it a miss. I notice that my artist count has dropped by like four. But if I read my checkins correctly these last couple of days the case sensitivity of tags has been lessened, yes? I'm sure I had a couple instances where one album was by 'Windy and Carl' and the other was 'Windy And Carl' or whatever. Or am I wrong and I better go comb through to see what's missing? Thanks much, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
[slim] Slimserver suddenly not reading Ogg Vorbis tags
Hey folks, I'm running svn revision 2552, and when I just wiped my db file to rescan it, I found that it wasn't picking up the tags for any of my Ogg Vorbis files, which comprise nearly all of my collection. I ran the server with --d_info and got a lot of: 2005-03-17 21:04:46.0012 Using format /ARTIST/ALBUM/TRACKNUM. TITLE = //([^\/]+)/([^\/]+)/(\d+)\. ([^\/]+)/... and messages like it instead of it reading my Vorbis tags. This only started happening today after updating the server. I checked on my Ogg::Vorbis::Header installation to make sure it didn't disappear (Dan helped me out by suggesting I build my own last week) and it seems to be fine. I happened to have a copy of the 3-10-05 nightly in my /home so I ran that, and the tags are picked up correctly, so I think this is a bug introduced today. Is anyone else seeing it? -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Slim Devices SB2 disappointment SB for sale.
On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 08:37:29 -0800, Phil Karn wrote: v5.4.1 runs beautifully on my Windows XP machine...so on a decent linux machine, I would only imagine how smooth it would run. I see various nightly versions of 5.4.x, but nothing officially labeled 5.4.1. http://www.slimdevices.com/su_downloads-5.4.1.html ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Nightlies
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 14:52:57 -0800, Dan Sully wrote: http://www.slimdevices.com/downloads/nightly/latest/ In Server Settings - there is a revision number at the bottom. Oh, I forgot to mention this earlier, but this jogged my memory. My SVN version is updated to revision 2495, but my Server Settings page just has: SlimServer Version: 6.0b1 - $Revision$ I've never seen this variable set since this change was checked in the other day. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Nightlies
On Mon, 14 Mar 2005 17:44:00 -0800, Dan Sully wrote: SlimServer Version: 6.0b1 - $Revision$ I've never seen this variable set since this change was checked in the other day. That's interesting.. what OS are you running on? Ubuntu Linux 4.10 -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: sb2 slimserver version
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 18:23:35 -0800, Dan Sully wrote: Great! Eventually I'd like to include Ogg::Vorbis::Header, but because it relies on the vorbis libraries, we need to get all that working with dynamic libraries, etc. Just compiling this for myself was no easy feat. First it bombed out looking for MakeMaker.pm, so I installed one, but it actually wanted a *different* MakeMaker.pm. Once that was solved, it failed looking for libogg and libvorbis. I knew I had those installed, but it turned out I also needed libogg-dev and libvorbis-dev. Seems like a chore to make sure this sort of thing Just Works for whoever downloads SlimServer. P.S. I'm still occassionally getting a No Album entry in my DB, usually if I kill and restart the server, but I can't reproduce it reliably enough to give you any more info. It's nothing like it was before on 6.0, though. Does the No Album entry have tracks listed under it? That entry is created if SlimServer finds a file which doesn't have an ALBUM tag. I tested this a bit more this morning and I've got what seems to be a repeatable way to get a No Album and No Artist entry in my DB. 1. Start the server with a fresh rescan. Album count is 896 at this point for me, Artists is 890. 2. Go to the Internet Radio link under Help, and enter an MP3 url into the field. For tests, I've been using the MP3 samples on the Darla Records home page, such as http://www.darla.com/mp3/mp39026.mp3. In the Now Playing window the track title is the URL. The artist is No Artist and the album is No Album. 3. Let the MP3 play for ten seconds or so then go back to the main page. Album count is now 897 with 891 artists. A No Artist and a No Album entry appear in the DB. Browse Artists - No Artist shows 1 album with 1 song by 1 artist. Browsing to the album No Album has no tracks in the list, although the web interface says there should be 1 song. While the album and artist counts have gone up, the number of songs remains steady at 10434. 4. If I go back to Internet Radio and play more URLs, the number of songs that are supposedly under No Artist - No Album increases accordingly. No tracks actually appear in the listing and the 'official' number of songs in the DB doesn't increase. So, it looks like SlimServer is adding track info for songs not actually in my library to the DB. A rescan doesn't seem to make the server realize they're not really there. Let me know if you need this info in Bugzilla in an new or existing bug. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: Re: Re: sb2 slimserver version
What version of the server is this with? Thanks. -D This was a Subversion build I put together this morning. The 2447 checkin just happened before I got back to the computer, so I'm guessing 2446 or thereabouts. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Suddenly can't start SlimServer on Linux
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 09:58:04 -0800, Jack Coates wrote: Steve Bernard, Jr wrote: I updated my SlimServer installation to the newest svn version this morning, and now every time I try to start it I get a message that says, Can't listen on port 3483 for Slim protocol: Address already in use at /opt/slimserver/Slim/Networking/Slimproto.pm line 53. Either slimserver is already running, or something else is using its network port. As root, ps aux | grep slimserver. sudo ps aux | grep slimserver gives me: steve 4014 0.0 0.1 1816 560 pts/0S+ 13:07 0:00 grep slimserver So that's not it. Aha, I had given up on using PuTTY for port forwarding, but it still seemed to be trying to make a connection on 3483 and 9000. I wiped all the settings and now it's cool. Thanks much, -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] sb2 slimserver version
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 13:32:04 -0800, kdf wrote: Quoting Kirk Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 3 hours seems long. How many songs? Around 25,000. it would be very useful to have a snippet of the d_info log from during the scan. I have about 10,000 in my collection and it takes a mere 15-18 minutes from a blank slate. 35-40 minutes if I have itunes and musicmagic enabled at the same time. FWIW, my library of 10,400 or so files takes somewhere around four hours to scan from a blank slate on 6.0, using the latest version. My library is almost completely Ogg Vorbis files, but I don't know if that makes a difference. I'll check that debug log as well next time I rescan. -Steve ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
Re: [slim] Re: sb2 slimserver version
On Fri, 11 Mar 2005 14:21:47 -0800, Dan Sully wrote: * Steve Bernard, Jr shaped the electrons to say... FWIW, my library of 10,400 or so files takes somewhere around four hours to scan from a blank slate on 6.0, using the latest version. My library is almost completely Ogg Vorbis files, but I don't know if that makes a difference. I'll check that debug log as well next time I rescan. Steve - what OS are you using? If you can compile Ogg::Vorbis::Header from CPAN - which a compiled C version, instead of the pure perl version which we ship with SlimServer. That should be much faster for you. I'm running Ubuntu Linux as of fairly recently. I compiled by own Ogg::Vorbis::Header and, holy cow, a wipe and rescan took 38 minutes! That's quite an improvement. I even wiped and rescanned again just to watch the DB fill up. Such is my sad, sad life. Thanks, -Steve P.S. I'm still occassionally getting a No Album entry in my DB, usually if I kill and restart the server, but I can't reproduce it reliably enough to give you any more info. It's nothing like it was before on 6.0, though. ___ Discuss mailing list Discuss@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/lists/listinfo/discuss
