Re: R300 DRI report

2005-07-29 Thread Martin Spott
Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

 You could also try FlightGear as far as games go.

Yep, this had been proven to trigger even the obscurest bug during the
emergence of the r200 driver  ;-)

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Re: R300 success stories

2005-02-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello,

Adam K Kirchhoff wrote:

 These are the games I've tried with the latest CVS from this afternoon:
[...]
 Frankly, I'm thrilled at the handful of games that are now working! 

Those who are looking for additional stress-test cases for OpenGL-
(especially R300-, I don't have one myself) drivers, might take notice
of this ready-to-run FlightGear package in:

  ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/FGBenchmark-0.0.5.tar.gz

(approx 76 MByte). The package includes binaries for IRIX/MIPS,
Solaris/Sparc, Linux/x86 and FreeBSD-5.x/x86, a README is there as
well:

  ftp://ftp.uni-duisburg.de/FlightGear/Devel/FGBenchmark.README

This is, how the picture should look like after startup:

  http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/FGFS/KSFO-startup_01.jpg

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Re: [Mesa3d-dev] Doom3 works on R200!

2004-10-25 Thread Martin Spott
Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

 What could work, however, is to make a *board* that is capable of decent 
 3d. Put lots of memory, lots of bandwidth and several DSP to approximate 
 the same level of raw floating-point power as 3d GPUs. Leave everything 
 else to the software.

This reminds me of TIGA  some years ago. They had X servers
running mostly on the graphics board, X libraries actually provided
merely the interface to the board's API,

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Re: [Dri-devel] new API/DRM/fb discsusion..

2004-05-06 Thread Martin Spott
Vladimir Dergachev wrote:

 Also, I would venture an opinion that, at the moment, the only Unices we
 care about is Linux, BSD and Hurd - all open source.  The current design
 of XFree86 (with everything done in userspace) was motivated by the need
 to support commercial Unices (like Solaris or Unixware).

Ooops, is it true that support for Solaris is supposed to be dropped ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Gains from doing 2D drawing using OpenGL/mesa

2004-04-26 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott wrote:
 Alex Deucher wrote:

 I don't know about that.  I can forsee IGP becoming _the_ standard
 method for video.  Look at sgi...  all of their video systems use
 system memory,  [...]

 Really ? Which one ?
 I know the O2 does, but MGRAS and VPro  ? I'm not absolutely sure
 but I assume they have memory on their respective graphic boards, at
 least they have texture memory,

Obviously SGI changed the direction. The VPro graphic boards for
Octane2 and up do have 'real' RAM onboard which is _partially_ used
for textures,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Gains from doing 2D drawing using OpenGL/mesa

2004-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Deucher wrote:

 I don't know about that.  I can forsee IGP becoming _the_ standard
 method for video.  Look at sgi...  all of their video systems use
 system memory,  [...]

Really ? Which one ?
I know the O2 does, but MGRAS and VPro  ? I'm not absolutely sure
but I assume they have memory on their respective graphic boards, at
least they have texture memory,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Gains from doing 2D drawing using OpenGL/mesa

2004-04-22 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Deucher wrote:
 --- Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Really ? Which one ?
 I know the O2 does, but MGRAS and VPro  ? I'm not absolutely sure
 but I assume they have memory on their respective graphic boards, at
 least they have texture memory,
 
 I though they used system ram for everything but textures... I could be
 wrong though.

Whooops, I'm very surprised but I assume you're right. There are too
few memory-like looking chips on the MXI board to make a useful amount
of video RAM,

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Re: [Dri-devel] New DRI driver interface (Re: CVS Update: xc (branch:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 3. After some testing and cool down period, merge the branch into the 
 trunk.  I expect this to happen fairly quickly.

 In-progress.  Please test this branch! :)

Would I notice any difference on a non-r200 card or do your changes
affect r200 only ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] New DRI driver interface (Re: CVS Update: xc (branch:

2004-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It looks like I should be able to convert the MGA driver today, but I 
 can't make any guarantees.

I'd prefer the 'radeon' driver, because I gave my r200 card to my
friend  ;-)

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Re: [Dri-devel] DRI newmesa merge

2003-12-10 Thread Martin Spott
David D. Hagood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Felix Kühling wrote:

 It would be annoying for people with dialup connections if make required
 access to a remote CVS repository.

 And how would that be any different than syncing up with the main DRI 
 CVS repo? If you are building one from CVS, you may as well get the 
 other from CVS as well.

You would sync manually and not every time you call 'make',

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Re: [Dri-devel] Adding hardware detection to DRI drivers

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Ville Syrj?l? [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:48:38PM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote:
 there's also this driver:
 
 http://www.instmath.rwth-aachen.de:8000/linux/G450-PCI/
 
 I'm not sure how the G4/550 and G200 differ in regard to PCI vs. AGP...

 AFAIK G450 PCI cards have an AGP-PCI bridge on the card which could do
 address translation just like the AGP GART. G200/G400 don't have that
 bridge. I'm not sure if the agpgart driver in that link you posted uses
 that bridge or some generic PCI GART stuff available on some
 architectures.

Hey, the guy's a good friend of mine - but he never told me he was
tweaking DRI stuff   I'm pretty shure he wrote the driver for use
on his UP2000 Alpha mainboard he used for visualization purpose,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Major mergedFB rework committed to CVS

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I can switch back to the old order in the mean time, however, I'm not
 sure if it is any more or less reliable than the current code.  both
 work fine on my hardware.

I just rebuilt the stuff with a CVS checkout from one hour before now.
When I do _not_ explicitly _disable_ MergedFB in XG86Config, the X
server spits out this to the log:

(II) RADEON(0): Generating MergedFB mode list
(II) RADEON(0): No MetaModes given, linking first modes by default
(EE) RADEON(0): Failed to parse MetaModes or no modes found. MergeFB mode disabled.
(--) RADEON(0): MergedFB: Virtual width 1152
(--) RADEON(0): MergedFB: Virtual height 864


This is exactly the resolution that I expect on my one and only screen
of a Radeon7500 - but it does not show up,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Adding hardware detection to DRI drivers

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Thu, Oct 16, 2003 at 06:30:53AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote:
 Would he be interested in contributing his work back? or maybe
 explaining how/if he got it working?

I'll ask him - he moved to southern Germany earlier this year,
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Re: [Dri-devel] Adding hardware detection to DRI drivers

2003-10-16 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Would he be interested in contributing his work back? or maybe
 explaining how/if he got it working?

Sorry, currently he's forced to finish his dissertation. He says you
might have to wait at least a month until he'll be able to deal with
that,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Major mergedFB rework committed to CVS

2003-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Alex Deucher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just committed a major rework of mergedfb to CVS.  almost all of the
 code is now in radeon_mergedfb.c/h.  I also committed Hui's latest code
 drop from xfree86 CVS. Let me know if anyone has any problems.

I'm fine with running the 'new' X server _modules_ with a previously
built XFree86 binary when I install the new stuff without restarting
the X server I'm currently using. Unfortunately the 'new' X server core
binary fails to run at my default resolution [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hz but falls
back to 1024x768 at somewhat around 60 Hz (usual effects of too low
refresh rate). 'xdpyinfo' fails to print the _real_ parameters:


name of display:quickstep.plesnik.bonsai.de:0.0
version number:11.0
vendor string:The XFree86 Project, Inc
vendor release number:40399012
XFree86 version: 4.3.99.12
maximum request size:  16777212 bytes
motion buffer size:  256
bitmap unit, bit order, padding:32, LSBFirst, 32
image byte order:LSBFirst
number of supported pixmap formats:7
supported pixmap formats:
[...]
default screen number:0
number of screens:1

screen #0:
  dimensions:1152x864 pixels (361x271 millimeters)
 
This is _definitely wrong !!!

  resolution:81x81 dots per inch
  depths (7):16, 1, 4, 8, 15, 24, 32
  root window id:0x48
  depth of root window:16 planes
[...]


The effect appears with 24 bpp as well. There is _not_ virtual
resolution defined and I did not change my XF86Config since september,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Video Memory Corruption

2003-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
Chris Ison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 --Boundary_(ID_KcARw6HFWym7RIWbxkMyIg)
 Content-type: text/plain
 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
 
 can someome please tell me whats causing the video corruption in the
 attached png image, and explain how to fix it.

I'd say the main bug is _YOU_ posting a 3/4 MByte image to a mailing
list !

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Re: [Dri-devel] Major mergedFB rework committed to CVS

2003-10-13 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 06:56:32AM -0700, Alex Deucher wrote:
 Can you clarify what you tried and what the problem is?

When I restart the 'new' (with MergedFB) XFree86 X server binary with
the old XF86Config (attached) I get a flickering screen with a
resolution that is obviously below what I usually set - but 'xdpyinfo'
displays the parameters that I usually expect (but are not present).

I attached the X server log file '.0' with flickering screen and 

 Option MergedFB false

 '.1' with this option put into the XF86Config, which clears the
situation for me !

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Description: Binary data


Re: [Dri-devel] config branch merge schedule

2003-09-30 Thread Martin Spott
Jos? Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyway, I'm now building a snapshot. If it succeeds please do a public
 request for testing on the dri-users and dri-devel.

 probably combined with a short list of common pitfalls ?

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[Dri-devel] FlightGear test with recent CVS

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
I just did a small test with FlightGear against the recent CVS checkout
from freedesktop and I'm delighted. Everything works as expected,

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Re: [Dri-devel] FlightGear test with recent CVS

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just did a small test with FlightGear against the recent CVS checkout
 from freedesktop and I'm delighted. Everything works as expected,

 I forgot to mention, that I'm running stock DRM kernel modules
from Linux-2.6.0-test5 (Radeon7500),

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Re: [Dri-devel] XFree86 merge

2003-09-12 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Hourihane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 But I also tagged it before starting, so if someone wants to branch for
 a stable tree you can do it off the trunk-20030912 tag.

Did this already happen on 'freedesktop.org' or still on SF ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-09-06 Thread Martin Spott
Eric Anholt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If anyone wants to test, [...]

Which video card would you recommend for trying ? I'd see if I can get
one,

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Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Keith Whitwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Martin Spott wrote:

 I'm running a quite up-to-date mirror in Germany - currently without public
 access, but we could change this. Though this mirror suffers from absence of
 the SF server too 

 What sort of a mirror, Martin?

I did a daily CVS update of the CVS trunk in the morning (in Europe, when US
citicens usually are gone to bed) - until today. I noticed that it takes the
SF server much more than 12 hours to respond to a anonymous CVS update. Now
I've switched over to simply duplicate Jose's RSYNC-mirror.

Today I started offering this via anonymous rsync. For people like me that
don't commit but simply follow the development and test it against their
favourite application this is entirely sufficient (at least _I_ think so).
This means: Functionality is way reduced compared to CVS/BK/whatever but it
might serve to reduce the load on Jose's server.

I'm running this primarily for my own purpose but you may have a try if you
like. Please note that this server is connected over a 34 MBit/s (beam-)
radio link so it might be not _that_ fast :

rsync://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/DRI_HEAD/


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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Larry McVoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 02:17:19PM +0100, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Maw, 2003-09-02 at 19:42, Jon Smirl wrote:
  There are 31 people with write access to dri.sf.net. The simplest solution
  would be for those 31 to switch to BitKeeper.

 If thos 31 are OK with that then it's easy, we can do a BK to CVS exporter
 and the BK people are happy and the CVS people are happy.

[ ... and later ...]

Larry McVoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Wed, Sep 03, 2003 at 12:59:43PM +0200, Michel D?nzer wrote:
 On Tue, 2003-09-02 at 23:57, Jon Smirl wrote: 
  -- Michel Dnzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  I have been using both for a year and BK is simply much better than CVS. 
 
 I know bk is the best version control system in the universe
 feature-wise, no need to say it again. And again. And again. (And again)
 I still don't want to use it.

 I'm not sure that anyone is asking you to use it.  What's wrong with the 
 people who want to use BK use BK and the people who want to use CVS use CVS?

[ ] Larry has a clue who he's talking to !?!

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Larry McVoy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 People claim that our license is a problem but the only real problem is
 the people making the noise. [...]

Things are getting ridiculous when you start to superimpose your attitude
towards ethics on others - especially when you are obviously lacking the
understanding for those people's motivations,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [OT] Sourceforge CVS

2003-09-03 Thread Martin Spott
Chris Ison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 DRI is still quite young and alot of people still have the Screw you
 Billy Goat attitude, [...]

Please remember that DRI is not Linux,

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Re: [Dri-devel] radeon error

2003-09-02 Thread Martin Spott
Thomas Emmel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 and this message means that the CVS-server is full.
 I think this was mentioned before two days ago.
 Some days before I had the problem that the download hangs in 
 xc/xc/util/patch infinitely. Now I tried to download completely
 from scratch without success.

I'm running a quite up-to-date mirror in Germany - currently without public
access, but we could change this. Though this mirror suffers from absence of
the SF server too 

Interest ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-08-25 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT: /cvsroot/dri
 Module name: xc
 Repository:  xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/
 Changes by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/08/08 13:34:08

 Log message:
   Removed the R{ADEON,200}_AGP_TEX_OFFSET contant as it's not really a
   constant.  Replaced it with a query of a chip configuration register
   to get the correct value.  This fixes various AGP texturing related
   problems on R100 and cleans up a hard-coded constant in the R200 driver.

 'Unfortunately' I'm on holiday at the moment. I'll check your changes
 against FlightGear as soon as I'm back at work,

I see, tons of updates during the last three weeks. As an owner of a
Radeon9100 I'm _really_ happy with the progress the DRI tree made and I'd
like to thank everyone who participated in this effort (Ian, Felix, Michel,
 I didn't remember all the names mentioned in the changelogs),

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-08-14 Thread Martin Spott
Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/08/08 13:34:08

 Log message:
   Removed the R{ADEON,200}_AGP_TEX_OFFSET contant as it's not really a
   constant.  Replaced it with a query of a chip configuration register
   to get the correct value.  This fixes various AGP texturing related
   problems on R100 and cleans up a hard-coded constant in the R200 driver.

'Unfortunately' I'm on holiday at the moment. I'll check your changes
against FlightGear as soon as I'm back at work,

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-07-29 Thread Martin Spott
Michel Daenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/drm/kernel/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/07/29 03:11:48

 Log message:
   * IRQ code cleanup suggested by Linus Torvalds
   * i830 build fix

BTW, has the discussion on moving the CVS repository finally faded out ? I
can't test Michael's modification because I can't pull it from CVS,

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[Dri-devel] Congratulations to recent changes

2003-07-28 Thread Martin Spott
Currently I don't know _what_ has been changed because ATM I don't have
access to the mailing list. But there _must_ have been substantial changes
because apparently the too dark lightning with TCL on Radeon bug has been
fixed. Running FlightGear on a Radeon9100 with the R200 driver I can't
tell the difference beween disabling and enabling TCL any more.
Obviously this is a change that happened in the X server modules because I
didn't recompile the kernel modules yet.

Thanks (I hope the good news don't rely on some sort of 'accident'  ;-)
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Re: [Dri-devel] searching for other CVS or RSYNC mirror of DRI trunk

2003-07-23 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Zimmermann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Maybe we can collect a list of all known and maybe tested mirror pages ...
 and repost on [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 1. rsync -avz --delete rsync://mefriss1.swan.ac.uk/dri/HEAD/ HEAD/
 
 2.

I'm currently trying to collect experience on how reliable I can manage to
keep a mirror up to date. I assume that as long as I update the mirror via
CVS I still suffer from SF's 24 h lag !?

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Re: [Dri-devel] radeon 9200 tester available

2003-07-09 Thread Martin Spott
Rupert Levene [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Thu, Jul 03, 2003 at 01:07:28AM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:

 PS: http://levene.dyndns.org/invisible-text/normal.png does show a
 driver problem - the lighting is wrong with HW TCL - but you didn't
 report that... ;)

 Well I'd assumed that _this_ was a software problem since it's a new
 in the latest version =) Is this a known driver problem?

If the scene looks to be too dark, then you can assume it's a driver
problem. This also shows up in other applications (FlightGear for example).
If anyone out ther knows both apps in details it might be interesting to
know what the both have in common  ;-)

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Re: [Dri-devel] Only normal DRI and Mesa CVS access as developer, now?

2003-06-23 Thread Martin Spott
Jos? Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 If not then the solution would imply moving the CVS repository to a new
 machine, but where would that be? XFree86.org? Some SF look-a-like?

As far as I know BerliOS is hosting quite a few OpenSource projects. This is
intended to be some SF alternative. I might not be up to date, but it
shurely is worth a look:

http://www.berlios.de/index.php.en


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Re: [Dri-devel] Torque Engine causes machine lockup on radeon mobility M7

2003-06-20 Thread Martin Spott
Zik Saleeba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Running the Torque Engine example application
 (http://www.garagegames.com/) runs for a few frames and then locks the
 system up. X is completely hung and it can't be killed. Remote logins
 to the machine are possible but the display is frozen until reboot.

You probably have triggered the same bug that people already experienced
with FlightGear - for example. This bug has been somewhat hidden after other
(unrelated) improvements (some buffer size reductions for example) but
obviously it's still there. I FlightGear it used to show up with or without
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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Jose (I don't know how to type the accent on my keyboard),

On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 09:21:18PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:

 I'll redo the debug output on monday - just to make shure I did not make any
 mistake. I'm doing this with an OEM Radeon9100. Unfortunately I gave away my
 Radeon7500 so I don't have any different test case,

This is what I have to offer today. This time I reloaded 'radeon' _and_
'agpgart' kernel module. Afterwards I'm simply starting the X server
without running any additional OpenGL program (no X session at all).
Today's kernel modules include the recent changes to DRI CVS you added this
weekend (taken from the patch called 'drm-really-agp.diff').

Note: I've applied the patches drm_agp-debug.diff, drm_agp-debug2.diff and
drm-really-agp.diff to my kernel tree only as I don't believe that the DRI
drivers refer to these headers. The rest of the DRI stuff is compiled from
a source tree _without_ these patches. Does this matter in any way ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:46:43AM +0100, José Fonseca wrote:

 And everything else looks normal - the AGP seems to be alive and
 kicking. Do you still get direct rendering: No in glxinfo or AGP not
 available in /var/log/messages ?

Yep:

1.) /var/log/XFree86.0.log tells me

(II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid PCI:1:0:0
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe0c7
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe0c7 to 0x40023000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xd800
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0c7 at 0x40023000
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1152,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,864) to (1152,866)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1152 x 7325
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 866)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1152 x 7321
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled


2.) 'glxinfo' still says OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect


I really don't know where to look now, so I depend on you/the list for hints
what do do to resolve this issue. I'd start by manually backing out the
patch from June 4th - or will I run into issues with this attempt ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 11:46:43AM +0100, José Fonseca wrote:

 And everything else looks normal - the AGP seems to be alive and
 kicking. Do you still get direct rendering: No in glxinfo or AGP not
 available in /var/log/messages ?

As I already said: Yes.
Now I rebuilt the kernel modules from sources before June 4th and
immediately I have HW-Accelerated OpenGL. The 'radeon' kernel module is
being linked together from radeon_drv.c radeon_cp.c radeon_state.c
radeon_mem.c radeon_irq.c. Unfortunately the mentioned patch touches about a
dozend files that that 'radeon' kernel module depends on in one or another
way:

quickstep: 14:29:11 ~ grep ^\+\+ patches/DRM | wc -l
 27


I'd like to collect suggestions where to start  ;-))

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 02:31:45PM +0100, José Fonseca wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 01:48:35PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:

  (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
 
 This can't be. This log can't possible match the other one you gave me.
 In the /var/log/messages it showed the agp buffer being added and so on.
 
 The only explanantion I can think of is that you're running _two_ X
 servers. The first one acquires the AGP device but the second fails to
 acquire, since the AGP device is already acquired by the first.

The explanation sounds reasonable, but I have to disappoint you: There is
definitely no second X server running, there also was only one XFree86.0.log
because - to make shure not to mix up things - I removed every log that
existred previously. How would you explain that the whole scene changes
simply by loading a different 'radeon' kernel module ?

Let me see, I'll strip down the kernel to only the necessary things and then
I'll see if the 'radeon' module collides with anything else.

I've attached the DRM patch I'm talking about the whole time. You might
compare it with yours to see, if my CVS tree is missing some part. The patch
applies against stock 2.4.20 kernel DRM. I can understand that you're
somewhat confused. I'll do anything to resolve this issue as my time
permits - if you like,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Jun 16, 2003 at 03:47:10PM +0200, Martin Spott wrote:

 I've attached the DRM patch I'm talking about the whole time. You might
 compare it with yours to see, if my CVS tree is missing some part. The patch
 applies against stock 2.4.20 kernel DRM.

Stupid - sorry for my mistake. This does _not_ apply to stock 2.4.20. The
patch is against a kernel that I maintain internally. It should still
represent the changes from June 4th,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-16 Thread Martin Spott
Roland Scheidegger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FWIW, I get that now always when I start the X server, then shut down
 the X server and start it again. DRI will never work again, unless I
 rmmod the radeon module manually before I restart the X server. Sounds 
 like some initialization thing.

Roland gets the big cookie for reminding me of the thing that never became
obvious to me: When I'm preparing for an X session, I'm starting the 'xdm'
with an init script and the X server via 'inittab' (-query xdm host). I
activate both by entering init runlevel 5.
Because of some reason the X server doesn't get a login window on the first
attempt, shuts down after XDMCP timeout and gets restarted by 'init'. On the
second try the 'xdm' opens a login window, I begin my X session and don't
get HW-accelerated OpenGL.

_But_, the snippets from XFree86.0.log I sent to this list (Direct
rendering disabled) all stem from an X server startup _without_ even trying
to contact the 'xdm' - just by typing:

# ~ X Return


Probably Roland pointed to the right place but the issue still gets
triggered in different situations,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-15 Thread Martin Spott
On Sun, Jun 15, 2003 at 07:47:35PM +0100, José Fonseca wrote:

 Something fishy is going on here. My debug statements never appear in
 your log and I've just retested on my test box with the latest CVS and
 everything works as expected with the radeon driver:
[...]
 Martin, are you're sure you're using the right (i.e. the latest)
 versions of the DRM and 2D drivers? I can't see any other explanation.

I am pretty shure they are. They all stem from the same DRI build (they all
carry the appropriate date):

-r--r--r--1 root root  1342562 Jun 13 15:38 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o
-r--r--r--1 root root  3821349 Jun 13 15:38 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o
-r--r--r--1 root root 13884724 Jun 13 15:36 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so
-r--r--r--1 root root  1453282 Jun 13 15:38 
/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o
lrwxrwxrwx1 root root7 Jun 13 15:38 /usr/X11R6/bin/X - XFree86
-rws--x--x1 root root 18661010 Jun 13 15:38 /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86


The procedure I use to build the stuff has not differed for quite a few
months, absolutely nothing has changed here.
I'm getting quite functional binaries when I build the 'radeon' kernel
module from sources _before_ the large APG related patch of June 4th and
leave _everything_ else untouched. Just to prevent misunderstanding:

I have a distribution provided /usr/X11R6/ tree. I take a copy of the
current CVS and do a 'make world'. Afterwards I do a 'make install' as root
which copies the CVS build _over_ my previous X11R6 tree.
Now I generate a patch from the _current_ CVS trees kernel driver sources
(.../os-support/[shared,linux]/drm/kernel/*.[h,c] against the sources in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm/*.[h,c]
I apply this patch to my kernel tree from which I rebuild and install the
kernel modules. This gives me software OpenGL since 4th June.

Now I revert the .../os-support/ directory of my CVS tree to a date before
June 4th, I generate an appropriate patch against the kernel tree and
rebuild the kernel modules. I stop the X server, unload the 'radeon' module
by leaving the 'agpgart' module and load the new 'radeon' module from
sources before June 4th. Now I have hardware-accelerated OpenGL after
restarting the X server.

It does not make _any_ difference if I reload _only_ the 'radeon' module,
_all_ modules or if I reboot the whole machine. So at least from my point of
view it solely depends on the 'radeon' module.

I'll redo the debug output on monday - just to make shure I did not make any
mistake. I'm doing this with an OEM Radeon9100. Unfortunately I gave away my
Radeon7500 so I don't have any different test case,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-13 Thread Martin Spott
 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=drm_agp-debug2.diff

I applied both of Jose's patches and loaded the 'radeon' module with
drm_opts=debug as suggested my Michel. I attached the compressed debug
output from loading the module until X server startup that I found in
/var/log/messages.

If the attachement does not get through I'd resend it plain test, but it's
18 kByte large,

I hope I can help in solving this issue,
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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I applied both of Jose's patches and loaded the 'radeon' module with
 drm_opts=debug as suggested my Michel. I attached the compressed debug
 output from loading the module until X server startup that I found in
 /var/log/messages.

BTW, I forgot to mention that I had to switch to SuSE-8.2 yesterday which
implies the use of GCC-3.3 - fortunately the stuff still build correctly. I
hope this does noch touch the meaning of the debug messages,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-12 Thread Martin Spott
Hello Jose,

 Since it's easy for you to rebuild the kernel module, try the attached
 patch which adds a debug output line. That line should appear, and both
 pointers should be non-NULL.

I applied your patch but I did not notice where the expected debug output
should appear. Should it show up on STDERR, in the syslog, in XFree ?

'/var/log/messages' looks as usual on 'radeon' module load and X server
start:

Jun 12 08:19:25 quickstep kernel: [drm] AGP 0.99 aperture @ 0xe400 64MB
Jun 12 08:19:25 quickstep kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.9.0 20020828 on minor 0
Jun 12 08:19:25 quickstep kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
Jun 12 08:19:28 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called 
without lock held
Jun 12 08:19:28 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 26871 using 
kernel context 0


I attached a compressed XFree86.0.log - in case it might be useful (it's
only 8k).

I managed to get something different. When setting LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose, each
time I start a program that is supposed to use OpenGL, I can read the
following on STDERR immediately after hitting enter:

libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned falselibGL error: 
XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned falselibGL error: 
XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned falsename of display: 
quickstep.plesnik.bonsai.de:0.0


This _is_ the correct FQDN and ${DISPLAY} is definitely correct - it has
been ever since. The libGL that is used definitely comes from the same
source as the DRM and DRI modules came from,

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Re: [Dri-devel] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-12 Thread Martin Spott
On Thu, Jun 12, 2003 at 12:19:17PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Thu, 2003-06-12 at 08:42, Martin Spott wrote:

  I applied your patch but I did not notice where the expected debug output
  should appear. Should it show up on STDERR, in the syslog, in XFree ?
 
 Wherever kernel output goes, but you'll have to load the DRM with
 drm_opts=debug .

Thanks !

 You're saying you've always used quickstep.plesnik.bonsai.de:0.0 for
 $DISPLAY? That would be a TCP instead of a UNIX socket, not sure the DRI
 is supposed to work with that. I use :0.0 .

I'm running 'xdm' standalone. Afterwards I start the X server with
'-query quickstep'. This is how I lernt to know X quite a few years ago and
somtimes I love to stick to old habits  ;-)
As far as I know DRI first looks for a valid device behind /dev/dri/card0
on the local filesystem. If it finds one, it does not bother about
${DISPLAY},

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-06-11 Thread Martin Spott
Jose Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/06/03 16:27:02

 Log message:
   Split declarations/definitions in drm_scatter.h into drm_sg.h/drm_sg_tmp.h
   respectively. Splited the work out of the ioctls and renamed (with the _ioctl
   prefix). Added some more documentation.
   Did the same for drm_sgpsupport.h.

 Modified files:
   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/:
 drmP.h drm_bufs.h drm_drv.h drm_memory.h 
 drm_memory_debug.h gamma_drv.c i810_drv.c i830_drv.c 
 mga_drv.c r128_drv.c radeon_drv.c sis_drv.c 
 Added files:
   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/:
 drm_agp.h drm_agp_tmp.h drm_sg.h drm_sg_tmp.h 
 Removed files:
   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/:
 drm_agpsupport.h drm_scatter.h 

As far as I can recover, this is the patch that made DRM unavailable on my
system. When I load the appropriate kernel modules (agpgart, radeon) by
starting the X server, /var/log/messages writes the following. This is from
the current CVS tree, but it read the same before the version change to
1.9.0:

Jun 11 18:58:22 quickstep kernel: agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xe400
Jun 11 18:58:22 quickstep kernel: [drm] AGP 0.99 aperture @ 0xe400 64MB
Jun 11 18:58:22 quickstep kernel: [drm] Initialized radeon 1.9.0 20020828 on minor 0
Jun 11 18:58:23 quickstep kernel: [drm] Loading R200 Microcode
Jun 11 18:58:25 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_cp_init] *ERROR* radeon_cp_init called 
without lock held
Jun 11 18:58:25 quickstep kernel: [drm:radeon_unlock] *ERROR* Process 12217 using 
kernel context 0


XFree86.0.log simply writes:

[...]
drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
drmOpenDevice: open result is 7, (OK)
drmGetBusid returned ''
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] created radeon driver at busid PCI:1:0:0
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 8192 byte SAREA at 0xe0cc5000
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] mapped SAREA 0xe0cc5000 to 0x4002
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] framebuffer handle = 0xd800
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] added 1 reserved context for kernel
(WW) RADEON(0): [agp] AGP not available
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] removed 1 reserved context for kernel
(II) RADEON(0): [drm] unmapping 8192 bytes of SAREA 0xe0cc5000 at 0x4002
(II) RADEON(0): Memory manager initialized to (0,0) (1152,8191)
(II) RADEON(0): Reserved area from (0,864) to (1152,866)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1152 x 7325
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration enabled
(II) RADEON(0): Using hardware cursor (scanline 866)
(II) RADEON(0): Largest offscreen area available: 1152 x 7321
(II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled


This is on a OEM Radeon9100. What information may I provide to you to fix
this ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] [RFC] New Xv adapter using MESA_ycbcr_texture

2003-06-06 Thread Martin Spott
Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I'm sure that MPlayer or Xine actually support an OpenGL output
  plugin already. Chances are it's Xine, but I haven't touched it in
  6 months, maybe they removed it?
 
 I believe it's still there. Before propagating the use of 'new' API's in
 Xinre for example please remember that this software was designed to run on
 other platforms, too, that don't know anything of MESA (IRIX for example).

 Um..

 IRIX doesn't have OpenGL now?

That's not what I was claiming. People where talking about
'MESA_ycbcr_texture' which I was referring to (see my posting),

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Re: [Dri-devel] [RFC] New Xv adapter using MESA_ycbcr_texture

2003-06-05 Thread Martin Spott
Matt Sealey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm sure that MPlayer or Xine actually support an OpenGL output
 plugin already. Chances are it's Xine, but I haven't touched it in
 6 months, maybe they removed it?

I believe it's still there. Before propagating the use of 'new' API's in
Xinre for example please remember that this software was designed to run on
other platforms, too, that don't know anything of MESA (IRIX for example).

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Re: [Dri-devel] Fresh DRI driver snapshots - call for testers

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Spott
Jos? Fonseca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 FYI these snapshots were built by checking out the DRI CVS over the
 XFree86 4.3.0 source [...]

This is tough - I didn't think it would work  :-)

This remembers me of a question that came up recently: Some of the changes
that recently were made to the XFree86 CVS repository touch files that are
part of the DRI tree. Does anyone track these changes with the intention to
update the DRI tree accordingly ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Fresh DRI driver snapshots - call for testers

2003-04-04 Thread Martin Spott
On Fri, Apr 04, 2003 at 03:59:16PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Fre, 2003-04-04 at 14:56, Martin Spott wrote: 

  This remembers me of a question that came up recently: Some of the changes
  that recently were made to the XFree86 CVS repository touch files that are
  part of the DRI tree. Does anyone track these changes with the intention to
  update the DRI tree accordingly ?
 
 Are you thinking of anything in particular? I didn't notice anything but
 backports of fixes from the DRI tree or cosmetical fixes.

Lemme see if I can find the posting quickly 

Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/04/03 14:47:42
56. Allow AGPGART support to be enabled for OpenBSD (#A.1684, Brian Feldman).
[...]
  3.11  +2 -2  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/lnx_agp.c


Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/04/03 08:38:52
42. Fix memory leaks in ProcXF86VidModeModModeLine and
ProcXF86VidModeValidateModeLine,
[...]
  1.15  +6 -2  xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common/xf86VidMode.c


Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/04/03 08:16:02
34. Add a new request to the XF86Misc extension that allows a client
to send an arbitrary message to the DDX, which in turn can send the
message to the driver.
[...]
  1.92  +10 -1 xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/


I'm shure there are some more.
I could be wrong but it appears to me that it _might_ me useful to track
these changes to minimize the next merge !? I'm not the one who defines how
to follow the XFree86 tree, I'm just a bit curious.

Or are all these changes already part of the DRI tree ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] thanks for the XFree-merge

2003-03-31 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I'm going to freeze the texmem-0-0-1 branch and begin the arduous task of 
 merging the trunk.  Since I'm not quite as experienced at doing merges 
 as Alan, it will probably take me awhile...

 It is probably not bad to let Keith's merge settle for a few days (so I have
 the chance to test it  ;-)  before the next merge happens,

Works excellent for me on a Radeon7500,

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[Dri-devel] thanks for the XFree-merge

2003-03-28 Thread Martin Spott
I'd like to express my thanks for the merge of XFree86-4.3 and the related
work.

The current 'trunk' is the most stable and accurate implementation of hw-
accelerated OpenGL I've seen on Linux with a Radeon (in my case) for quite
some time (as long as you factor out the light position issues with TCL ...)

In between I've not only tested different stages of DRI development, I've
also tried XiG's Summit-2.2 server on an ES Tornado3k and on two different
Radeon boards (original 7500 and OEM 9100, textures in FlightGear look
_horrible_). DRI is simply the best  ;-)

I'm looking forward to see the merges of the branches that are currently
floating around (texmem, filp and mach64),

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Re: [Dri-devel] thanks for the XFree-merge

2003-03-28 Thread Martin Spott
Ian Romanick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Since it appears that the filp work has been merged in to the trunk, [...]

Oh, I noticed too late 

 I'm going to freeze the texmem-0-0-1 branch and begin the arduous task of 
 merging the trunk.  Since I'm not quite as experienced at doing merges 
 as Alan, it will probably take me awhile...

It is probably not bad to let Keith's merge settle for a few days (so I have
the chance to test it  ;-)  before the next merge happens,

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Re: [Dri-devel] XFree86-4.3 DRI and kernel-2.5.X

2003-03-25 Thread Martin Spott
Louis Garcia [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is their anyway I can get a diff for XFree86-4.3 DRI against 2.5.latest?
 I'm starting to play with this kernel and want dri working for my
 radeon.

Diff against what ? XFree86-4.3.0 should work fine 'out of the box' with
Linux-2.5.x. I've already tried that quite a few times. It might be
hindering though, that the Radeon DRI driver in current XFree86 might fail
in some special cases.
You'd better wait until Alan has finished his great work merging the current
XFree86 into the DRI tree because Mesa-5.x based DRI in the current DRI
trunk is supposed to be much more stable than what is in XFree 4.3 now (as
far as I remember from previous tests),

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Re: [Dri-devel] 4.3.0 merge

2003-03-24 Thread Martin Spott
Jens Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keith Whitwell wrote:
 Alan Hourihane wrote:
 
 I'm going to start the 4.3.0 merge. Be prepared for breakage.

 I'll post another followup when I'm finished.
 
 
 Thanks for doing this, Alan.

 Definitely.  Thanks, Alan.

Oh yes, this way we'll have best of both worlds. I'm sort of happy about
this,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [forum] Re: [XFree86] Invitation for public discussion about

2003-03-20 Thread Martin Spott
Keith Whitwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 It's always a shock to see that what is meant to tease when written comes out 
 looking more like a direct attack when read back...

Oh, I would agree even if it was considered as sort of an attack,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [forum] Re: [XFree86] Invitation for public discussion about the future of X

2003-03-20 Thread Martin Spott
Philip Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Perhaps then, this will provide enough incentive for DRI to move back into
 a pure extension module form, rather than its current xfree tree
 entanglement.

You don't want to imply that people touch bigger areas as is would be
necessary for DRI development - do you !?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Serious Sam: 2nd Edition crash

2003-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The texmem branch doesn't have the FlushVertices fix yet, which seems to
 help with a number of lockups. Try
 http://penguinppc.org/~daenzer/DRI/applied/r200-radeon-flushvertices.diff

If it does not work, try this one - I never experienced any Radeon-lockup
since I recompiled the driver with the patch mentioned here:

Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/12 05:54:45

Log message:
  Fix recycle lockup (Michel Danzer)

Modified files:
  xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/:   Tag: mesa-4-0-4-branch
radeon_dri.c 
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.37.2.6  +1 -0  xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_dri.c


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Re: [Dri-devel] Serious Sam: 2nd Edition crash

2003-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Mar 17, 2003 at 02:41:43PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 On Mon, 2003-03-17 at 14:11, Martin Spott wrote:
  Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Changes by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/12 05:54:45
  
  Log message:
Fix recycle lockup (Michel Danzer)
  
  Modified files:
xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/:   Tag: mesa-4-0-4-branch
  radeon_dri.c 

Revision  ChangesPath
1.37.2.6  +1 -0  
  xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/radeon_dri.c
 
 That change only has an effect on a server reset, I have no idea why it
 would make a difference otherwise.

I don't know either _why_ it would - this is beyond my insight into the
subject. On the other hand I know that it definitely improves stability of
the server on my end,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Serious Sam: 2nd Edition crash

2003-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You could try to set the environment variables RADEON_NO_CODEGEN,
 RADEON_NO_VTXFMT and RADEON_TCL_FORCE_DISABLE [...]
   
BTW, I just aquired a Radeon9100 clone to see if serveral 'features'
resemble the behaviour I'm used to see on my Radon7500.

Infortunately they pretty much behave the same way: The card locks up under
certain 'well known' conditions and FlightGear looks quite dark with TCL
enabled. I'm now looking for a switch to disable TCL on the r200 based card
but grepping the source code I did not find an equivalent to the above
mentioned environment setting.

Did I miss it ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Serious Sam: 2nd Edition crash

2003-03-17 Thread Martin Spott
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 BTW, are you actually using 4x transfer rate? If so, have you tried
 lowering it?

I't like to note that the lockups I saw with FlightGear and Solace were
completely independent from the AGP transfer rate of my Radeon7500. I did
quite a few tests to be shure about it. The same applies for the Radeon9100
I tried today,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: mesa-4-0-4-branch)

2003-03-13 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Keith Whitwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT: /cvsroot/dri
 Module name: xc
 Repository:  xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/
 Changes by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/12 05:54:45

 Log message:
   Fix recycle lockup (Michel Danzer)

 Modified files:
   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/:Tag: mesa-4-0-4-branch
 radeon_dri.c 

 Not bad - this fixes all crash scenarios I had with my Radeon. This makes
 not only FlightGear run stable but also fixes the freeze with 'Solace'
 (wildly moving the output window over the screen).

Yup, now the Radeon X server survives 5 simultaneous 'glxgears' during
startup of 'FlightGear' in the freeze Radeon X server configuration while
moving 'Solace' over the screen. Am I the only one who is now happy with the
stability of the X server or does anyone have similar experience ?

Now the only apparent complication leftover is about 'dark lightning' in
FlightGear. At the risk of telling an old tale I'd dare to post some words
that I already used to annoy other members of this list  ;-)

Dieter N?tzel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Dienstag, 4. März 2003 20:17 schrieb Martin Spott:

 P.S.: There's still the dark lightning issue with FG on Radeon   ;-))

 Are all your TCL colors right?

No, they're still in 'bad shape' (TM). Curt Olson once pointed to a possible
bug in the TCL implementation and there are signs he might be right.

When I start at 11 AM local time usually the terrain looks properly
illuminated. Here you can get an idea how it should look like:

http://www.de.flightgear.org/images/j3cub-departing-KNOW.jpg


When you enable TCL, take off, bank the plane about 120 degree clockwise
(yes, then you're pretty much flying top-down) and watch straight out of the
cockpit, then you also see pretty illuminated terrain. How much you have to
turn the plane to achieve this depends on the time of day !
I can achieve similar effect by setting the whole terrain to be shining
without external light source (like the sun) in FlightGear - even at night,
this looks cool ;-)

Now Curt suggests that probably the TCL code does not handle the light
source (sun) position properly - this would explain why the terrain appears
to be shining throuh in certain directions, variying with the time of day.
I took a screenshot which probably emphasizes this idea:

http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Illumination_01.png


This is taken at 11 AM local time in April - it looks pretty much the same
in August. As you can see the lower right side of the body is well
illuminated, even the fillet between the right wing and the body is
bright. The terrain instead is hardly illuminated - it looks like the
sun to be shining from below the surface,

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: mesa-4-0-4-branch)

2003-03-12 Thread Martin Spott
Keith Whitwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/12 05:54:45

 Log message:
   Fix recycle lockup (Michel Danzer)

 Modified files:
   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/: Tag: mesa-4-0-4-branch
 radeon_dri.c 

Not bad - this fixes all crash scenarios I had with my Radeon. This makes
not only FlightGear run stable but also fixes the freeze with 'Solace'
(wildly moving the output window over the screen).

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-03-04 Thread Martin Spott
Michel Daenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/03 17:02:35

 Log message:
   Set Mesa hooks to flush vertices on state changes (Keith Whitwell)

Whps, it appears to me that this fixes the FlightGear lockups. I did
several tries of my usually reliable 'test routine' (starting with a viev
straight out of the B747 cockpit) and it did _not_ crash the server until
now. I'll try further.

If this proves to be real maybe someone should contribute this as a patch
against XFree86-4.3-branch   ;-)

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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: trunk)

2003-03-04 Thread Martin Spott
Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Michel Daenzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT: /cvsroot/dri
 Module name: xc
 Repository:  xc/xc/lib/GL/mesa/src/drv/radeon/
 Changes by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/03/03 17:02:35

 Log message:
   Set Mesa hooks to flush vertices on state changes (Keith Whitwell)

 Whps, it appears to me that this fixes the FlightGear lockups.

This definitely looks to be stable for me so far with a Radeon7500. I'll be
out of office for the rest of the week so I could not stress test this under
different conditions. I'd be happy if others could confirm the sanitizing
effect of these patches.
I forgot to mention that I currently run the DRM driver from XFree86-4.3.0,
I'll test others next week if anyone is interested.

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Re: [Dri-devel] Remote OpenGL

2003-03-03 Thread Martin Spott
Philip Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sun, Mar 02, 2003 at 10:33:15PM +, Martin Spott wrote:

 I don't know _why_ this works

 because you're not using DRI.
 DRI essentially for Xserver-side stuff. The X server is on the SGI.

That's quite clear  ;-)

 DRI is not involved here. You're just using a libGL.so that knows how to
 talk the GLX extension protocol over the wire.

I thought I was 'told' that the libGL that is provided with XFree86
inevitably depends on having DRI as a 'backend' for hardware OpenGL
rendering. Obviously I was wrong.

 P.S.: gcc-3.2.2, glibc-2.3.1, xfree86-3.4.0
 *Amazing!  ;-)

Maybe that's because I was typing while flying. You should not do that  :-)

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[Dri-devel] Remote OpenGL

2003-03-02 Thread Martin Spott
Hello, did you know that remote display of OpenGL apps is partially
functional with DRI ? At least the client side works ! I'm currently running
FlightGear on a Linux PC against an SGI Octane functioning as X terminal.
Performance is not bad - at least better than running FlightGear native on
the (low speed) Octane  :-)
I don't know _why_ this works but obviously the OpenGL(/DRI) library
provided with XFree86 is able to detect OpenGL support on the server side
and does _not_ render in software.
This is _really_ nice to see !!

Unfortunately from my point of view this affirms the suspicion that the
'dark lightning' issue with FlightGear at least on Radeon is a server-side
problem.
Running FlightGear against OpenGL libraries compiled from the identical
source tree against a DRI based Radeon X server does not look that nice.
Running the same stuff against Octane X server instead looks as everyone
loves it  ;-)

Happy,
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Re: [Dri-devel] Re: future of DRI? - why no one plays with Glide3.

2003-03-01 Thread Martin Spott
Mike A. Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Sat, 1 Mar 2003, Smitty wrote:

Which is probably why Molton is trying to instigate a divorce
from Glide for the V3.

 I certainly support that move.  Anholt was working on Glide3 
 recently a bit as well.  I dunno how far he got, but I've been 
 meaning to ask.

Ian Molton got a Voodoo3 3k from me but he yet did not manage to have the
time for necessary work on that,

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Re: [Dri-devel] GL image distortions with Radeon VE

2003-02-28 Thread Martin Spott
Nick Kurshev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Image distortion became visible in oct 2002.

This probably was the time when hardware-TCL came into play !?
You could try to set $RADEON_TCL_FORCE_DISABLE to 't' and see if it makes
any difference,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Using DRI to implement 2D X drivers

2003-02-27 Thread Martin Spott
Michel D?nzer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 The radeon driver uses the DRM for 2D acceleration when DRI is enabled,

Is the radeon driver the only one doing so ? Is it possible that heavy
simultaneous use of 2D and 3D graphics is responsible for the DRM freezing
the X server with FlightGear ? You remember, I get the stuff near to stable
as long as FlightGear is the only X client running on the display.

This is just a vague assumption, but I thought it might be allowed as long
as nobody knows the truth about the X server freezes  ;-)

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[Dri-devel] Re: [Dri-patches] CVS Update: xc (branch: drm-filp-0-1-branch)

2003-02-26 Thread Martin Spott
Keith Whitwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 CVSROOT:  /cvsroot/dri
 Module name:  xc
 Repository:   xc/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/drm/kernel/
 Changes by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]   03/02/24 19:59:01

 Log message:
   Use file pointers instead of pids for resource and lock tracking
[...]

quickstep: 19:28:48 /usr/src/linux/drivers/char/drm gcc -D__KERNEL__
-I/usr/src/linux/include -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -O2
-fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 -march=i686 -DMODULE -DKBUILD_BASENAME=i810_dma
-c -o i810_dma.o i810_dma.c
i810_dma.c: In function 810_dma_get_buffer':
i810_dma.c:245: warning: unused variable riv'
i810_dma.c: In function 810_reclaim_buffers':
i810_dma.c:909: structure has no member named id'


Did I miss something ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 9000Pro hangs with current DRM

2003-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I updated the radeon DRM to include the texture upload changes. My
 radeon hang with flightgear now happens every two hours instead of
 instantly.

Would you please be so kind to try the B747 ? Please run FG with the option:

--aircraft=747-yasim

 When it dies X is stuck, the mouse pointer works. The 3D app is burning
 a lot of CPU and the system is otherwise running. At the point the 3D 
 is killed (kill -9 etc) the box hangs solid

Absolutely the same effect as over here. Unfortunately it gets stuck on
startup with the B747, immediately after writing some message like
Reading electrical system model from [...],

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Re: [Dri-devel] module release method, threads, pids

2003-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Felix K?hling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 No idea, just a comment. This reminded me of the famous X hangs when
 flightgear exits. Recently I read in some posts on the plib-users
 mailing list that flightgear is multi-threaded, too. The situation is
 somewhat different, though. There is only one context and AFAIK only one
 thread uses OpenGL. [...]

Right, because Curt Olson obviously knows _very_ well about OpenGL not being
thread safe, he almost _prays_ avoiding multiple threads in one rendering
context  ;-)

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Re: [Dri-devel] Radeon 9000Pro hangs with current DRM

2003-02-24 Thread Martin Spott
Alan Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 With a 747 it starts up, I get a cockpit, I turn up the engines taxi down
 the runway and embed the nose in the ground. I can't fly a 747 but I don't
 see the problem you reported

Thanks for the test. Maybe we have too look at the differences between a
Radeon7500 (mine) and a '9000 

Martin.
P.S.: It should be easy to get a B747 off the ground, you just have to wait
  until the runway ends and pull up a few seconds before. It's much more
  difficult to touchdown right on the runway after flight  ;-)
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Re: [Dri-devel] Lock problem with Radeon DRI

2003-02-18 Thread Martin Spott
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:51:24PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:52, Martin Spott wrote:

  Where did you take the DRM sources from ? I usually take the source for the
  DRM module from the same DRI CVS tree I use to build the whole DRI thing,
 
 Mike Harris builds in Red Hat beta and in rawhide

It appears to me that the kernel modules of Mike's build do not differ from
XFree86 4.2.99.901 - at least he didn't include any additional patches
that thouch the kernel modules. I have the impression he also did not
include any patches that touch the Radeon driver in a way that might prevent
from lockups.

So are we going to see XFree86-4.3.0 with broken Radeon DRI drivers ?

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Re: [Dri-devel] Lock problem with Radeon DRI

2003-02-18 Thread Martin Spott
 How can get a new module? Do I have to build XF86 from source

No, you don't have to rebuild the whole XFree86. I usually take the Sources
from:

xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/linux/drm/kernel/
xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/shared/drm/kernel/


 and adjust the Makefile in my kernel tree accordingly. So I just have
to 'make modules' in the kernel tree to get updated DRI modules,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Lock problem with Radeon DRI

2003-02-18 Thread Martin Spott
On Tue, Feb 18, 2003 at 02:34:29PM -0500, Leif Delgass wrote:
 On Tue, 18 Feb 2003, Martin Spott wrote:

  So are we going to see XFree86-4.3.0 with broken Radeon DRI drivers ?

 I noticed that Michel's fix for large textures in
 radeon_cp_dispatch_texture() has only been in XFree86 cvs since 4.2.99.902
 (about 10 days ago).  I'm not sure if the problem that fixed could cause a
 lockup, [...]

No, unfortunately it does not.
I am currently running a kernel with DRM built from XFree86-4.2.99.902 and
it still locks up reliably. 'radeon_state.c' is identical to the one in DRI
trunk.
I've already been testing quite a few patches that have been floating around
in 'dri-devel' and you would have heard me shouting out loud if one of them
would had solved the lockup-issue  ;-)

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Re: [Dri-devel] MindRover+Radeon+DRI=crash

2003-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
 I wrote that MindRover crashes X with Radeon VE and DRI. Last days I asked few
 people on irc to test MindRover-demo with their Radeons (TCL and no-TCL, DRI
 from current CVS and older). All of them got X locked. [...]

I'm glad to see that FlightGear is not the only reliable test case for the
Radeon X server lockup 'feature'  ;-))

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Re: [Dri-devel] Lock problem with Radeon DRI

2003-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
[... Alan Cox wrote ...]
 On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 13:37, Michel Dänzer wrote:
 That DRM is pretty old, is the 3D driver from the same date? Someone
 said on an XFree86 list that the flightgear lockups went away for him
 with XFree86 4.3.0rc1.

 My lockup with flightgear on the 9000 with 4.2.99 based tree and a recent 
 DRM module.

Where did you take the DRM sources from ? I usually take the source for the
DRM module from the same DRI CVS tree I use to build the whole DRI thing,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Lock problem with Radeon DRI

2003-02-14 Thread Martin Spott
On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 04:51:24PM +, Alan Cox wrote:
 On Fri, 2003-02-14 at 14:52, Martin Spott wrote:
   My lockup with flightgear on the 9000 with 4.2.99 based tree and a recent 
   DRM module.
  
  Where did you take the DRM sources from ? I usually take the source for the
  DRM module from the same DRI CVS tree I use to build the whole DRI thing,
 
 Mike Harris builds in Red Hat beta and in rawhide

So if Mike appears to have 'the right stuff' (TM), would it be worth merging
the missing bits to the DRI ? I'll see if I can find this stuff and if it
helps getting 'my' FlightGear stable,

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Re: [Dri-devel] [patch] SWTCL vertex data corruption

2003-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
 Can someone commit this?  Does this fix *all* the problems?  I don't know if 
 it would.

It probably fixes SW TCL bugs - as Felix states - but it does not touch the
HW TCL related problems with the radeon driver. They still exist,

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[Dri-devel] Re: Flightgear and lighting (WAS: SWTCL vertex data corruption)

2003-02-13 Thread Martin Spott
On Thu, Feb 13, 2003 at 04:12:46PM +0100, Felix Kühling wrote:
 On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:29:44 +0100 (CET)
 Martin Spott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It probably fixes SW TCL bugs - as Felix states - but it does not touch the
  HW TCL related problems with the radeon driver. They still exist,
 
 It would just be too good to be true if there was one simple patch that
 fixes all problems ;-) As you wrote to me in private mail you are
 referring to lockup problems and the dark lighting in flightgear.

I'd like to add, that the lockups appear definitely _not_ to be TCL related.
Maybe this is not new to you, but in case   I tried to take some
screenshots to document the 'dark lightning' issue for the FlightGear
people:

I log into my X session, this starts several 'aterm's. In one terminal
window I set $RADEON_TCL_FORCE_DISABLE to 't'. In this window I'll start
FlightGear afterwards. After FlightGear comes up, I toggle the view (side
view is nicer to look at). Now I click into another window to start 'import'
(from ImageMagick) to take a screen shot of the correctly coloured
FlightGear window. In this moment the 'aterm' has the window focus. When I
click on the title bar of my FlightGear window I get back the FlightGear
window in foreground but the window does not get the focus back because the
X server locks up before.

I dont know how many reboots I did to take a single screen shot  ;-)

Slightly irritated,
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Re: [Dri-devel] mach64-0-0-6-branch

2003-02-12 Thread Martin Spott
 [...] Since the GATOS head is now based
 on current XFree86 cvs, I may not have a new patch until 4.3.0 is released
 and changes get propagated back to the DRI and GATOS trees.

Could anyone tell me if I'll find recent GATOS stuff merged into the current
XFree86-4.3 pre-releases ? I did not find the answer neither on the GATOS
pages nor in the XFree86 CVS 'changes.html' document.
I _did_ expect XFree86-4.3 to be 'up to date' with GATOS and would like to
see some sort of proof - _before_ downloading tons of source code,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Context teardown

2003-02-05 Thread Martin Spott
 There are now two patches, one from Egbert Eich (who reported the problem).  I 
 haven't had time to look at his as it changes some deep, dark, dri stuff that 
 I wasn't ever involved with, but looks sane nonetheless.  His avoids the error 
 reply from the X server, whereas mine copes with it once it arrives.  I'm not 
 sure either will help texobj which seems to be a malloc/free bug.

 I'm attaching both.  I actually think applying *both* is the way to go.

I didn't yet understand what this sould buy me with a Radeon7500, but at
least I have the impression that these patches don't do any harm to me when
running my beloved FlightGear,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R100 GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3

2003-02-05 Thread Martin Spott
 Ian, now that you've merged in the software support for combine3 from the
 Mesa trunk, I'm trying to get it working in hardware on R100 with texmem
 (impatient as I am ;) ).

Where do I find at least a short explanation on the effect this patch should
show to me (to the user) ? The only impression I have after a short test is
decreased frame rate in FlightGear under certain conditions. I'm pretty
shure this is not your primary intention with this patch  ;-)
So obviously this patch is considered to improve something else that
FlightGear das not benefit from,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R100 GL_ATI_texture_env_combine3

2003-02-05 Thread Martin Spott
 That would be easy enough to verify with oprofile.  Just take a profile 
 with and without the patch.  In order to get profile data on the GL 
 driver, do this:

 oprofpp -l /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/radeon_dri.so

Thanks for the explanation.
If there's anything else I can do to support your effort instead of pointing
to FlightGear related trouble every day I'd be glad to hear - I mean, except
writing C code, you don't really want to look at my C skills 

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Re: [Dri-devel] Configuration file format survey

2003-01-28 Thread Martin Spott
 [...] The notion that users dont edit 
 config files by hand may be all fine and good in the microsoft world but 
 last time I checked I was using linux. You can't make the same 
 assumptions about what users want to do as you can in the microsoft 
 world.

I'd like to add _strong_ support to this opinion,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Merge from trunk to texmem-0-0-1

2003-01-28 Thread Martin Spott
[ Ian wrote ]

 There have been rumblings on [EMAIL PROTECTED] about problems with 
 Radeon in 4.2.99.4, but I didn't think that those problems had 
 propogated into DRI CVS yet.  That's a shame. :(

I think it's the other way round: The DRI stuff that got merged into XFree86
4.2.99.x 'releases' has _never_ever_ been usuable with FlightGear on
Radeon7500, so it's not surprising that problems show up with XFree86 pre
releases  :-/
In purpose to find something usuable for FlightGear that features TL on my
Radeon7500 I'm now testing every branch I can find in CVS  ;-)))  Maybe
sometime we could offer a recommendation of what would be useful to get
merged into XFree86 

 In the mean time, you ought to be able to revert back to 
 texmem-0-0-1-20030123-trunk-premerge and update everything EXCEPT 
 programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/drivers/ati/. [...]

Thanks, I'll try ASAP (I'll be out of office for a few days, I think I'll
need a DRI capable Notebook  ;-),

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes issues

2003-01-08 Thread Martin Spott
 On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:40:09PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote:

  http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png
[...]
  Wow, that's a really cool failure mode...  What's your GL_draw_method (in
  ~/.Solace/registry) set to?  Try changing it to 1 or 0...
 
 Yep, this circumvences the bug,

 Which one?  1 uses vertex arrays with glArrayElement, 0 uses immediate
 mode. (2 uses glDrawElements. [...]

Setting GL_draw_method to 0 prevents from drawing these nice artifacts as
shown in the picture. Please see my next posting in a few minutes when I
managed to upload the 'Carbon Copies' of two Solace-sequences.
I'll see what GL_draw_method 2 shows on my display,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 - what can I do to help?

2003-01-08 Thread Martin Spott
 On Tue, Jan 07, 2003 at 03:48:51PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote:
[...]
  It was like the image that was supposed to be clipped because it was 
  hidden became visible briefly as the light went by.  It just happens 
  briefly and then it is quickly corrected.  This is probably not an 
  accurate description, but there it is.
 
  Okay... could you set the value of testRender/capt to some directory with
  lots of free space and press 'k'?  It'll record PPM-format screenshots...
  then send the appropriate frame(s) to me, preferrably as PNG or JPG. :)
 
 Are you still interested in these ones ?

 Yeah.

I put two sequences onto the web server. They are approx. 250 frames each.
Be careful - even converted to PNG these archives are still 19 MByte each.
The filenames should speak for themselves. I included a log of the terminal
output of 'Solace'. BTW, the second one ends with a crash - 'Solace' writes
something like Radeon timed out to the terminal:

http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-dlistMax0-draw_method1.tar
http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-dlistMax1024-draw_method1.tar

 This not only cures the artifacts I encountered, this also cures the
 flickering torus and - as far as I can tell now - it cures the X server
 crashes with my Radeon7500. Even with GL_draw_method set to 1,

 Then there's a problem with glArrayElement() in the R200 driver while
 recording a displaylist.

I'm using the 'radeon' driver for my Radeon7500, not 'r200'.

 The specific piece of code that it's running is this (while a displaylist
 is being recorded in GL_COMPILE_AND_EXECUTE mode):
[... some code ...]

This is not for me - I'm not skilled enough to deal with details of the
code,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes issues

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott
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 On Fri, Dec 20, 2002 at 12:47:34PM +0100, Martin Spott wrote:
  There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however.  Every ~40
  frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen.
 
  Like these ones ?
 
  http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png
 
 Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - also shows
 this sort of artifacts ?

 And I can guarantee it's not a bug in Solace. ;)

 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png
 
 
 Maybe this program is not that complex and could server as a test case for
 DRI/Mesa-4.x,

 Wow, that's a really cool failure mode...  What's your GL_draw_method (in
 ~/.Solace/registry) set to?  Try changing it to 1 or 0... also, I notice a
 problem with the outlines on the various objects which have them (the group
 of torii and the bubble-shaded thing on the right).  The easy workaround
 (in Solace anyway) is to change GL_line_method to 0, which switches it to
 immediate mode (it still records a displaylist though).

 BTW, for an explanation of the various settings (so that people really
 could use Solace as a driver stress test), type d_set from the
 controlling terminal (and you can also use this command to change the
 settings on-the-fly).

 I must take issue with your claim that Solace is 'not that complex' though.
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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes issues

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott
  http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png
 
 Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - also shows
 this sort of artifacts ?

 And I can guarantee it's not a bug in Solace. ;)

 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png
 
 
 Maybe this program is not that complex and could server as a test case for
 DRI/Mesa-4.x,

 Wow, that's a really cool failure mode...  What's your GL_draw_method (in
 ~/.Solace/registry) set to?  Try changing it to 1 or 0...

Yep, this circumvences the bug,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 - what can I do to help?

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott
 Yes, that would be the one.  If you take all the torus together it reminds 
 me of a cartoonish framework for what could be overall a sphere.  Imagine 
 stretching a piece of cloth around the whole grouping ...
 
  Also, what do you mean by flickers?
 
 It was like the image that was supposed to be clipped because it was 
 hidden became visible briefly as the light went by.  It just happens 
 briefly and then it is quickly corrected.  This is probably not an 
 accurate description, but there it is.

 Okay... could you set the value of testRender/capt to some directory with
 lots of free space and press 'k'?  It'll record PPM-format screenshots...
 then send the appropriate frame(s) to me, preferrably as PNG or JPG. :)

Are you still interested in these ones ?

 Oops - mistype.  Switching the GL_draw method to 0 correct all of the 
 anomalies I was seeing in the display.  

 That makes more sense. :)  Sounds like it's a problem with displaylists and
 vertex arrays.  Does it still happen if you set the value of GL_dlistMax to
 0?

This not only cures the artifacts I encountered, this also cures the
flickering torus and - as far as I can tell now - it cures the X server
crashes with my Radeon7500. Even with GL_draw_method set to 1,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 - what can I do to help?

2003-01-07 Thread Martin Spott

 Oops - mistype.  Switching the GL_draw method to 0 correct all of the 
 anomalies I was seeing in the display.  

 That makes more sense. :)  Sounds like it's a problem with displaylists and
 vertex arrays.  Does it still happen if you set the value of GL_dlistMax to
 0?

 This not only cures the artifacts I encountered, this also cures the
 flickering torus and - as far as I can tell now - it cures the X server
 crashes with my Radeon7500. Even with GL_draw_method set to 1,

O.k., the crash doesn't get prevented but it gets delayed heavily,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 - what can I do to help?

2002-12-31 Thread Martin Spott
 Also, if whoever it was who posted that screenshot could change the Solace
 setting of GL_draw_method to 0 (which switches to immediate mode rendering
 rather than using vertex arrays) and see if that continues with the
 funkiness, that would be another useful data point. :)

I should step in here because I think you are referring to my screenshot.
I'm not at home these days and I will continue to answer your questions as
soon as I'm back to the machine I was running 'Solace' on,

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Re: [Dri-devel] R200 notes issues

2002-12-20 Thread Martin Spott
 There are sporadic rendering bugs in FlightGear, however.  Every ~40
 frames or so, I'll see a large triangle or two flash on the screen.

 Like these ones ?

 http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4_3.png

Did you know that 'Solace' - recently mentioned on this list - also shows
this sort of artifacts ?

http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Solace-4.x.png


Maybe this program is not that complex and could server as a test case for
DRI/Mesa-4.x,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Mesa version and Radeon driver

2002-12-16 Thread Martin Spott
On Mon, Dec 16, 2002 at 06:44:46PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:

  DRI with Mesa-4.0.4 - as suggested for shipping with XFree86-4.3:
  
  http://document.ihg.uni-duisburg.de/bitmap/Radeon/Mesa-4.0.4.png
 
 Is the 4.0.4 screenshot from after I merged fixes from the trunk?

I believe so. The screenshot dates on 2002-12-13 18:04 (CET) and the CVS
update was taken very few hours before.

I must admit that I was a bit lazy today so I didn't want to retype the
whole message   so I'd add something here.

The most interesting thing (for _me_) is the evidence, that the picture does
_not_ differ dependent on the X server I use. I can throw in different X
server binaries, but the real difference becomes obvious when I change the
underlying OpenGL libraries - wether they com from SuSE-8.1, from
DRI/Mesa-4.0.4 or from DRI/Mesa/5.x
This implies - as I understand the topic - that the Mesa libraries
have far the most influence on what the user looks at.

 Well, it doesn't look that much better, does it? Do you really think
 it's worth rushing in Mesa 5 for that?

To be honest, the branch with Mesa-4.0.4 is currently not worth talking
about when it comes to using FlightGear. I built a _lot_ of DRI (Mesa-4.x)
trees during the past months to have the impression that improvement is
unlikely to happen here. So Mesa-5.x appears to be the big step that
promises - for me - an XFree86 release that I would count on.

 Sure, the 'old' code has
 problems, but at least it's well tested with all drivers. You can always
 use DRI CVS or 4.2.0 if that suits you better.

If the user had to consider XFree86-4.3 as 'broken' because of non
functional OpenGL support, so why should people use it ? These are
disproportionate strong words, but I believe the 'user' will think this way
once he has the decision to make,

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Re: [Dri-devel] No Radeon lockup with FlightGear in fullscreen

2002-12-06 Thread Martin Spott
On Fri, Dec 06, 2002 at 04:29:14PM +0100, Michel Dänzer wrote:

 So apparently the problem stems from the interaction between 3D and 2D,
 e.g. missing synchronization, locking problems, indirect buffer issues,

This is my impression.
I did another run, I did a local login via xdm and killed everything
(including the display manager) except one wterm, which I used to start
FlightGear. I was at least able to fly several minutes before the screen got
locked. Unfortunately I didn't have a debugger running,

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Re: [Dri-devel] Mesa-4-1-branch

2002-11-21 Thread Martin Spott
 I just ran FlightGear with this branch (instead of employing binary
 snapshots) on my Radeon7500. Everything is quite fast, the colours look
 perfect, the previously known feature of everything appearing too dark has
 gone !

Hmmm, today I had to realize that this is still dependend on the direction
you look at. But still better than before,

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