Re: Re: [Elecraft] K2 - getting ready to build
Don Wilhelm wrote: that you should be aware of. The Rework Eliminators would have you change the value of C71 and set the K2 menu D19 parameter to ON. That precludes you from finally setting the VCO voltages (voltages at R30) I actually deleted these steps when I built with the eliminators. The capacitor should be reasonably accessible later. I think there is also an issue that the temperature compensation is optimised for not having this particular change made. -- David Woolley Emails are not formal business letters, whatever businesses may want. RFC1855 says there should be an address here, but, in a world of spam, that is no longer good advice, as archive address hiding may not work. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Wait list
When I moved from NYC to Auckland New Zealand in ' 76 I learned that things do not go to plan in ZL I quickly learned that nothing was the same as in the big apple. Then I saw it almost in neon lights, a ZL expression: She'l be right mate at this point I calmed down and realized that 3000 mile from where this thing is being built it really does not matter. In fact do not get fussed, there is nothing that you can do about it. Being an east coast cynic, their cash flow might need help, so if they want to bill me for the full amount now this is fine. anything to help. George Marr ZL1TUJ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Test from Bavaria
Hi Gang, at http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3.pdf you can find Version 1.0 of our K3 test. Currently only in German, but I am working on a translation. We plan on extending the report after the next important contests and further measurements. Also I will be adding a few comments about building the kit etc. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
I may just have come across this, at one point I couldn't get 160m - I power
cycled and all was ok.
John, if someone does get MBS ('Missing Bands Syndrome'), does a power cycle
fix it?
On 18/1/08 02:49, John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Ed,
I just went through this last week. It is a known problem and is on
Wayne's things-to-do list. What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to
go into split mode when you have the condition you described because if you
do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the bands. At
one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the
bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in
VFO A and B.
- Original Message -
From: Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
I noticed this behavior this evening and I was wondering if anyone else
could duplicate it.
I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB. When I turn the VFO B knob,
the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB. If I turn VFO A
now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB. If I do a
band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus get a
PLL error message flash by.
Does anyone else see this?
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site and zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page On 18/1/08 07:22, David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable for us all. David G3UNA Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split mode when you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the bands. At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B. John[K7SVV] -- Trust in Allah, but tie your camel. -Arabic saying ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Data Mode
Greg - AB7R wrote: Not yet, but having Line in automatically selected when in Data mode is on the list. This only applies to DATA A and AFSK A though. In PSK D, the transmitter ignores the audio input altogether. Some people may think this is stating the obvious, but when you are switched to PSK D to see how well the DSP decoder works compared to the PC soundcard decoder, and then decide to reply to someone, it isn't! - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Data-Mode-tp14946557p14948060.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
I'll ask for a 'DontDoThis' page on the wiki and start if with that If anyone has and good (bad?) don't do this's, let me have them please. On 18/1/08 10:36, David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: Both good sources, but a list of don't do this... as advised by John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches. It would be an impossible task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes. David G3UNA - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Crafters elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List of tips Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site and zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page On 18/1/08 07:22, David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable for us all. David G3UNA Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split mode when you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the bands. At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B. John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- The bamboo that bends is stronger than the oak that resists. -Japanese proverb ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
Both good sources, but a list of don't do this... as advised by John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches. It would be an impossible task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes. David G3UNA - Original Message - From: David Ferrington, M0XDF [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Crafters elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] List of tips Yes, or rather Wayne is maintaining a operating Tip page on Ecraft site and zerobeat has LOTS of info, including error message tips and FAQ etc at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Main_Page On 18/1/08 07:22, David Cutter [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable for us all. David G3UNA Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split mode when you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the bands. At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B. John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC strange behavior
Hallo Klaus, just saw, that when you switch off AGC, the S-meter and receiver Gain will stay at the level where it was at the moment when you switch off agc - for example noise at S4, switch off AGC - S-meter will still show S4 and gain is also reduced, switching off antenna before AGC off and antenna on again will show S0 and full receiver gain... This sounds like something for a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which, afaik, is where Elecraft would like to receive bug reports. Thanks for heads up, vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 AGC strange behavior
just saw, that when you switch off AGC, the S-meter and receiver Gain will stay at the level where it was at the moment when you switch off agc - for example noise at S4, switch off AGC - S-meter will still show S4 and gain is also reduced, switching off antenna before AGC off and antenna on again will show S0 and full receiver gain... using latest firmware 73 OE6KYG KX1 244 K2 1331 K3 115 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Elecraft Digest, Vol 45, Issue 31 - Translation K3 Subreceiver update
It is an interesting amusing comment upon practically any company - other than Elecraft ! I was thinking as I read Wayne's message - this has got to be unique - a world-class designer taking time out to share his issues problems in such an informative open way. I am saving pennies (Sterling) to order a K3 in due course via the (voluntary)50% deposit route - most of my salary finances Gordon Brown's existence. Meantime, I enjoy learn from, the list generally 73 George G4TPV This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you have received this e-mail and/or attachment in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use the contents of the e-mail or any attachment. All e-mail sent to or from this address may be accessed by someone other than the recipient for system management and security reasons or for other lawful purposes. Airbus UK Limited is registered in England and Wales under company number 3468788. The company's registered office is at New Filton House, Filton, Bristol, BS99 7AR. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
How did you set that up, I have found I can't get VFOA to go out of 10M band when VFO B is set on 10M. And when I enter freq for VFO A directly, say 51.0, VFO B changes to that too. On 18/1/08 00:16, Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB. When I turn the VFO B knob, the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB. If I turn VFO A now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB. If I do a band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus get a PLL error message flash by. -- Power is no substitute for Skill. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
At 1/18/2008 03:57 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote:
I may just have come across this, at one point I couldn't get 160m - I power
cycled and all was ok.
John, if someone does get MBS ('Missing Bands Syndrome'), does a power cycle
fix it?
I have come across that several times. You can spin the dial quite a
bit (not recommended) or just manually enter a frequency in the band
that is missing. I use the band up or down button to get to the band
that is missing and just enter a frequency manually through the front
panel buttons.
On 18/1/08 02:49, John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent:
Ed,
I just went through this last week. It is a known
problem and is on
Wayne's things-to-do list. What ever you do, don't press the
SPLT button to
go into split mode when you have the condition you described
because if you
do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the
bands. At
one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the
bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have
different bands in
VFO A and B.
- Original Message -
From: Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:16 PM
Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
I noticed this behavior this evening and I was wondering if anyone else
could duplicate it.
I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB. When I turn the VFO B knob,
the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB. If I turn VFO A
now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB. If I do a
band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus get a
PLL error message flash by.
Does anyone else see this?
--
The universe is like a safe to which there is a combination. But the
combination is locked up in the safe.
-Peter De Vries, editor, novelist (1910-1993)
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Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
David Cutter wrote: I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable for us all. Preferably in a form that can be printed out and stuck on the wall. I've already hit several issues that were known faults. Trouble is, I'm getting to the stage where I can't remember something I was told five minutes ago, never mind what I may have read a week or more back. :( - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Strange-VFO-Behavior-tp14940134p14948048.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
Hows this? http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis On 18/1/08 09:56, G4ILO [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: David Cutter wrote: I hope someone is making a list of tips like this, they will be invaluable for us all. Preferably in a form that can be printed out and stuck on the wall. I've already hit several issues that were known faults. Trouble is, I'm getting to the stage where I can't remember something I was told five minutes ago, never mind what I may have read a week or more back. :( -- If you have the same ideas as everybody else but have them one week earlier than everyone else then you will be hailed as a visionary. But if you have them five years earlier you will be named a lunatic. -Barry Jones, politician, author (1932- ) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Test from Bavaria
Interesting work Toby. I would be interested to know how the K3's receiver behaves in terms of overall 3rd Order dynamic range (or Input IP3 and Noise Figure plus composite LO phase noise) while the test tones are moved in steps up the higher skirt regions and into the passband of a 8.215 MHz IF filter's response, hopefully without activating the 'Hardware AGC'. I appreciate that not all filters are born equal and that signal generators produce phase noise. Will you be including such tests sometime in the future? 73, Geoff GM4ESD Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Gang, at http://www.bavarian-contest-club.de/projects/K3.pdf you can find Version 1.0 of our K3 test. Currently only in German, but I am working on a translation. We plan on extending the report after the next important contests and further measurements. Also I will be adding a few comments about building the kit etc. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC strange behavior
Same behavior here with #202 and latest firmware. 73, Ken K3IU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Klaus, just saw, that when you switch off AGC, the S-meter and receiver Gain will stay at the level where it was at the moment when you switch off agc - for example noise at S4, switch off AGC - S-meter will still show S4 and gain is also reduced, switching off antenna before AGC off and antenna on again will show S0 and full receiver gain... This sounds like something for a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which, afaik, is where Elecraft would like to receive bug reports. Thanks for heads up, vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Test from Bavaria
Toby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know yet. We have a whole list things which would be interesting to measure, but won't have to test everything. One item on our list is: What is the close in degradation with one of the wider filters, e.g. the 6kHz filter. Also I would like to point out that while I provided the K3, Matthias Ben have done most of the testing and writing up of the results. - Many thanks, and thanks to Matthias and Ben as well. I look forward to seeing your results and hearing your K3 on 40m. 73, Geoff GM4ESD ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Test from Bavaria
Hallo Geoff, born equal and that signal generators produce phase noise. Will you be including such tests sometime in the future? I don't know yet. We have a whole list things which would be interesting to measure, but won't have to test everything. One item on our list is: What is the close in degradation with one of the wider filters, e.g. the 6kHz filter. Also I would like to point out that while I provided the K3, Matthias Ben have done most of the testing and writing up of the results. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
Since I've started it, I'll undertake to identify old entries that are no longer valid as soon as I'm made aware of that. On 18/1/08 13:47, Don Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, I would agree. Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a 'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem has been fixed. 73, Don W3FPR David Cutter wrote: Both good sources, but a list of don't do this... as advised by John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches. It would be an impossible task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- Cats know exactly how we feel. They don't give a damn but they know. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
Hi John - Actually (and this may be a shock to The Believers) you might be surprised to know that there seems to be a rather LARGE group of people who agree with me, not only for the TRANSLATION e-mail, but also the OPEN LETTER e-mail which I sent last month. They say so, enthusiastically, in private correspondence. No joke. You see, John, when all's said and done, all we have is our reputation. There are those who stand and deliver on promises, those who don't. Those who's word cannot be trusted must be held accountable. This HAS to be the case, because, at a high level, what else holds a civilization together? Anyway, enjoy S/N 157! 73, Steve NN4X EL98jh Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:32:18 -0500 From: John Gaynard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I doubt you'll get any chuckles from the majority of list readers. Probably just the opposite. I do not believe that Wayne's emails need any translation. John K8WDN K3 #157 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Elecraft Digest, Vol 45, Issue 31 - Translation K3 Subreceiver update
I too think it was a very nice gesture to explain and be so honest about the delay. VERY unique now days when many others only seek to cover their behinds instead. Refreshing indeed. Thanks Gary for the update and to the whole Elecraft team. Dale, K9VUJ JONES, George wrote: It is an interesting amusing comment upon practically any company - other than Elecraft ! I was thinking as I read Wayne's message - this has got to be unique - a world-class designer taking time out to share his issues problems in such an informative open way. I am saving pennies (Sterling) to order a K3 in due course via the (voluntary)50% deposit route - most of my salary finances Gordon Brown's existence. Meantime, I enjoy learn from, the list generally 73 George G4TPV This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and/or privileged information. If you have received this e-mail and/or attachment in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the e-mail and any attachment from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute, disclose or use the contents of the e-mail or any attachment. All e-mail sent to or from this address may be accessed by someone other than the recipient for system management and security reasons or for other lawful purposes. Airbus UK Limited is registered in England and Wales under company number 3468788. The company's registered office is at New Filton House, Filton, Bristol, BS99 7AR. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-Elecraft-Digest%2C-Vol-45%2C-Issue-31---Translation-K3-Subreceiver-update-tp14951226p14951482.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #234 assembled and had its first QSO
Yes, I just leave AFX on all the time - in fact, I guess that's one function that could be put int the MAIN menu and the button freed up for something else. On 18/1/08 15:13, Bob Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: when I hit the AFX button just to see what that meant...WOW, truly awesome. -- Power is no substitute for Skill. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 #234 assembled and had its first QSO
aaah yes, AFX, Audio Factitious Extraordinaire de Joe, aa4nn --- Yes, I just leave AFX on all the time - in fact, I guess that's one function that could be put int the MAIN menu and the button freed up for something else. when I hit the AFX button just to see what that meant...WOW, truly awesome. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option)
Dave I agree that the delay in deliver is disappointing. I have a second receiver on order too. I also am disappointed by the lack of maturity of the firmware. HOWEVER - I have a K3 (#70) and it is a joy to use. What it does, it does VERY well and I still believe that the remaining features will be implemented and operating annoyances fixed. WRT to eham reviews of the OMNI VII I'm sure the OMNI VII is a fine piece of gear. The K3, OMNI VII and Flex 5000 are all interesting, innovative products with many 5 star ratings. You might visit the Ten-Tec OMNI VII Yahoo group. I believe that you may see similar concerns about that product. I wouldn't be surprised to hear the Flex has it's own issues. I've been involved with programming and new RF product development for 35 years. The only rule that consistently applies is Hofstadter's Law: It always takes longer than you expect, even when you take into account Hofstadter's Law Bob KD8CGH KX1, K2, K3, ... ? -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TRANSLATION%3A-K3-Subreceiver-Status-Update-%28KRX3-option%29-tp14946083p14949794.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC strange behavior
The folks at Elecraft are aware of this behavior. 73 Gil K8EAG - Original Message - From: Ken K3IU [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 6:49 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 AGC strange behavior Same behavior here with #202 and latest firmware. 73, Ken K3IU [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hallo Klaus, just saw, that when you switch off AGC, the S-meter and receiver Gain will stay at the level where it was at the moment when you switch off agc - for example noise at S4, switch off AGC - S-meter will still show S4 and gain is also reduced, switching off antenna before AGC off and antenna on again will show S0 and full receiver gain... This sounds like something for a CC to [EMAIL PROTECTED], which, afaik, is where Elecraft would like to receive bug reports. Thanks for heads up, vy 73 de toby ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution
I've been having intermittent computer problems with the K3 connected ever since installing the K3 on the operating desk. The ultimate disaster occurred during the RTTY Roundup when the computer shut itself off and lost my log with approximately 1100 QSO's. After making various attempts to block RF from entering the computer, I ran across what appears to be the solution. The DB9M connector on my serial cable used for K3 I/O had the standard threaded studs installed. These had to be removed to allow fitting to the K3 I/O port with its own threaded studs. With the studs removed, the connectors mated, but nothing but friction to hold them together. I wondered if perhaps the shells were making intermittent contact. I next drilled through the connector body where the studs were removed and inserted a spare pair of thumb screws that were left over from a DB9F connector. With these screwed into the K3's threaded studs to secure the connectors, I've not had any further RF problems with the computer. -- 73, Bob Patten, N4BPPlantation, FL E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://www.qsl.net/n4bp SOC #1 ARS #799QRP ARCI #3412 FISTS #7871 FP #1491SMIRK #6625 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option)
Barry N1EU wrote: Dave, I also find the K3 subrx delay a real bummer that may impact my purchase timing. But as far as your proposition that The Ten Tec Omni VII . . . may be a worthy and fully developed competitor, are you REALLY buying that? I guess worthiness (not to mention fully developed) totally depends on the context of comparison and how quickly you're apt to butt up against the radio's limitations. In tough band condx, I don't think it would be much of a comparison. In addition to performance (e.g. 10-15 dB IMDDR3), there's a difference in cost. I would configure the K3 as a competitor to Omni VII as follows: Omni VII (no ATU) - $2650 600 Hz CW filter- 99 Total $2749 K3/100 (no ATU) - $1989 (assembled) KXV3 (for RX ANT) - 79 500 Hz CW filter- 79 Total $2147 (assembled...less $240 if kitted) The Omni VII has no Sub-RX and never will. The K3 will eventually have one with roughly equivalent performance as its Main. Is the O7's scope worth another $600 (assembled K3) or $840 (kitted K3)? Not in my opinion, but 10-15 dB IMD difference would be worth it to me even if the prices were reversed! 73, Bill W4ZV -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TRANSLATION%3A-K3-Subreceiver-Status-Update-%28KRX3-option%29-tp14946083p14949373.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option)
Barry N1EU wrote: Dave, I also find the K3 subrx delay a real bummer that may impact my purchase timing. But as far as your proposition that The Ten Tec Omni VII . . . may be a worthy and fully developed competitor, are you REALLY buying that? I guess worthiness (not to mention fully developed) totally depends on the context of comparison and how quickly you're apt to butt up against the radio's limitations. In tough band condx, I don't think it would be much of a comparison. The K3 also has a 5.0 review rating at eHam. What does that prove? Like you, I am disappointed at the amount of promised features still to be delivered. It takes the shine out of owning a new K3 just a bit. If I was going to write a review at eHam, I'd give it only a 4 just because of that. But do I regret buying it? No. And when those features eventually come, I'll still be ahead of all those who held off buying until they were ready. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TRANSLATION%3A-K3-Subreceiver-Status-Update-%28KRX3-option%29-tp14946083p14949372.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
At 1/18/2008 06:07 AM, David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: How did you set that up, I have found I can't get VFOA to go out of 10M band when VFO B is set on 10M. And when I enter freq for VFO A directly, say 51.0, VFO B changes to that too. Good question! On 6M, I had set up the M1-M4 quick memories for 50.125, 50.110, etc. For some reason, when I used them yesterday, VFO B ended up on 10M. On 18/1/08 00:16, Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB. When I turn the VFO B knob, the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB. If I turn VFO A now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB. If I do a band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus get a PLL error message flash by. -- Power is no substitute for Skill. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 + KAT100 + Cushcradt R8 Vertical
If the R8 has been discontinued, then that is a recent action. The last time I checked various dealer websites, the R8 was still for sale. Cushcraft had them on display last year at Dayton. I wonder if you aren't confusing it with the R7, which has been discontinued for several years--at least 7 years or more. Dave W7AQK - Original Message - From: Doug Person [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Phil Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Elecraft Discussion List elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 8:40 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K2/100 + KAT100 + Cushcradt R8 Vertical Phil, The R8 has been discontinued for some time so I assume you have a line on a used one. There has been some issues with getting parts for the older Cushcraft verticals. I've had most of the so-called no-radial verticals and the Cushcraft is more or less the middle of the pack. I found the GAP Titan to be superior. Not too great on 80 but decent performance on the other bands. My current choice of these types is the Hy-Gain AV-640 and AV-620. The AV-620 is available from RL Electronics for $269 - which is, in my book, a bargain ( I have no association with them - just passing on my observation). The AV-620 covers 20 through 6 meters and is very well built. You can download the manual from Hy-Gain to get a good sense of the antenna. 73, Doug -- K0DXV ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option)
Dave, I also find the K3 subrx delay a real bummer that may impact my purchase timing. But as far as your proposition that The Ten Tec Omni VII . . . may be a worthy and fully developed competitor, are you REALLY buying that? I guess worthiness (not to mention fully developed) totally depends on the context of comparison and how quickly you're apt to butt up against the radio's limitations. In tough band condx, I don't think it would be much of a comparison. 73, Barry N1EU David and Dianne on Comcast wrote: Hi Everyone, The delay of the second receiver option is to me both highly regrettable and somewhat deceptive. I, for one, based my purchase decision greatly on this option being ready for prime time which is obviously was not and apparently will not be any time soon. Production delays are forgivable and understandable but discovering that this option which is touted as a big-time feature but is really no where near ready is confidence deflating. I have been personally patient waiting for my K3 (as are many others) and occasionally publicly supportive on this list of the delays that Elecraft has been experiencing. Now we discover that a MAJOR K3 feature is no where near production ready, if even designed at this time. Come on As for me, I'm reassessing my purchase decision and may wait until the K3 project has matured. I have bought lots of transceivers over the years and this was to be the first I ever considered buying in its first year. I now wondering if I should still make that exception. The Ten Tec Omni VII has a 5.0 Review rating out of 25 reviews on Eham and may be a worthy and fully developed competitor. Very disappointed in all of this. Elecraft does a lot of great things but this one was really lame. Flame away. I could care less. My $.02 73 de N1LQ-Dave ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/TRANSLATION%3A-K3-Subreceiver-Status-Update-%28KRX3-option%29-tp14946083p14949164.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
Thanks, I've noted that on the page at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis (that page is going to move on Sunday, sorry, but I will link to new page). On 18/1/08 17:28, John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band sequence is permanent until you manually correct it. In other words it won't go away by itself. To get the bands back into the correct sequence you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press AB to set VFO B to the same frequency. (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that band entry, press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press the AFX/ENTER button, and the press AB. Your band sequence should now be correct). No big deal repairing the damage. -- No sensible decision can be made any longer without taking into account not only the world as it is, but the world as it will be. -Isaac Asimov, scientist and writer (1920-1992) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Translation - 2nd RX
And while were are at it, how about the KDVR3 (Digital Voice Recorder Option). This also seems to have slipped into the DELAYED category. For me, in addition to the 2nd receiver this modules availability was a decision maker. Total lack of transparency Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:33:05 -0800 (PST), Dave Agsten wrote: Dave, N1LQ wrote : The delay of the second receiver option is to me both highly regrettable and somewhat deceptive. I, for one, based my purchase decision greatly on this option being ready for prime time which is obviously was not and apparently will not be any time soon. Production delays are forgivable and understandable but discovering that this option which is touted as a big-time feature but is really no where near ready is confidence deflating. I have been personally patient waiting for my K3 (as are many others) and occasionally publicly supportive on this list of the delays that Elecraft has been experiencing. Now we discover that a MAJOR K3 feature is no where near production ready, if even designed at this time. Come on I have to agree with Dave here. It's the same situation here. The delays are understandable. Even a SHORT, further delay with the KRX3, was accepable. Now it's listed merely as DELAYED. What does that really mean? If I recall correctly, the KRX3 2nd receiver option has been on the Elecraft info/order sheet, with no mention of being available in the future, at any time since its annoucement. All of the info sheets I have from Dayton show the KRX3 as being like any other option...such as filters. This option was certainly a deciding factor in ordering a K3. It wasn't until quite a few orders were taken that it was suddenly listed with a later shipping date that continues, even now, to slip. ( A big slip apparently, since now there isn't even a projected date ) I was never informed when placing my order on May 25th that the KRX3 would not be available with the rest of my order. Was anyone else who ordered before the KRX3 delay was posted notified that the it would not be immediately available? My 50% deposit was calculated with the KRX3 option included. It would be nice to know exactly what's going on here. If it is, as Wayne said, that they are redesigning for a valid reason, then there is no way the KRX3 should have been listed as an available option from Day 1. I was thinking about having my deposit applied to a K2 and waiting until who knows when for the 2nd production run to be shipped. Now, with the KRX3 news, I'm not sure what direction to go. It has made me decide to scrap the K2 idea. Perhaps an Orion II or an Omni VII for now and continue to wait and see on the K3. I could probably have either Ten-Tec within a week or so. Then, when the K3 comes along, I can do my own side-by-side. And, in reading a few of the latest list postings, there appears to be some issues with using the K3 being used in a certain manner before the KRX3 is available. ie. VFO A/B things. To me, having one band on VFO A and another on VFO B is perfectly normal and should not be an issue. It does seem that the K3 was actually announced and released a bit before it was ready for Prime Time. That was probably driven by the Visalia and Dayton dates which, obviously, would not be slipped. 73, Dave N8AG Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
BTW: this whole scenario is VERY EASY to fall into if you start tuning around the Shortwave Bands and accidently bump VFO B and/or start cycling through the bands. The quickest cure I have found was to remember (ha!) to return VFO A to the Ham Band frequency from which I started BEFORE I move VFO B. 73 es hv fun -- Don N4HH K3# 83 SNIP -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John [K7SVV] Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:49 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior SNIP At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B. SNIP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2nd RX Specification
Phil wrote: This is the latest news release about the sub receiver:- /When we release a product, it has to meet a number of criteria. Raw performance by traditional measures is just one of these. Fortunately the subreceiver has met our expectations in this regard, with dynamic range *virtually identical* to that of the main./ Hi Phil, The main and subreceivers use identical circuitry, including bandpass and crystal filtering, synthesizer, and DSP. They *are* identical. The only reason I used the word virtual when describing the performance is that the sub and main are both subject to +/- 1 to 2 dB of variation, as would be any two K3s. This is the limit of the state of the art in manufacturing and alignment. Suppose you test your subreceiver and find that its IMDDR3 at 5 kHz is 107 dB, while your main receiver is only 105 dB (or vice-versa). Are these identical? No, they're virtually identical. But in statistics class we referred to this as a ceiling effect. Both measurements are off the charts at the high end of what's possible in a production radio. I'm glad to see that we're being held to a high standard of semantics, as well as performance :) 73, Wayne N6KR --- http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
wb8yqj wrote: Here's the new page - please feel free to add anything you know about. With the number of K3 users increasing greatly every day, the firmware can be expected to experience a variety of keystrokes and scenarios that the smaller beta group had not encountered. The E-guys make these issues a priority, The wiki can help provide a current moment view of any of these issues. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_problems_known_to_Elecraft%2C_on_the_list_to_be_fixed. Whilst this is a worthy endeavor and I don't wish to knock it, I think the problem is most people who visit this page won't have the faintest idea how to contribute. What is really needed is something like the bug tracking thing on SourceForge, where people can log in and see a form where they can post their bug report or suggestion for the wishlist, and the developers can then add their comments on it and note when it has been implemented (or junked.) - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-Strange-VFO-Behavior-tp14960479p14961338.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 Interfacing with old amplifiers
My question is: Has this feature been implemented yet, No, it is on the The List. 73, Lyle KK7P ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: [qrp-l.org] HELP Missing 13 year old
Chris, I too am a LEO and will disseminate this among my fellow officers. Thanks for sharing and stay safe. Take care es... Vy 73 de Bert WA2SI - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:08 PM Subject: [Elecraft] Fwd: [qrp-l.org] HELP Missing 13 year old I rarely forward emails, especially to a reflector, but since I am a Police Officer, I felt compelled to make an exception. Please help Perry find his neice. Thanks 73/72 Chris Blaase NV9Z KX1 #1455 Hagerstown IN -Original Message- From: Perry WA8THK FP 582 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Qrp-l org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 4:44 pm Subject: [qrp-l.org] HELP Missing 13 year old Here is a TV station link http://www.wnem.com/news/15063671/detail.html My Neice 's Daughter is Missing please keep an Eye open for Them .. Perry wa8thk 810 635 7815 Perry Baker FP 582 Qrp-l org 108 _ ___ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://mail.qrp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l_qrp-l.org More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
Fellow Elecrafters: I have no doubt as to the integrity, honesty or technical excellence of Elecraft, and am delighted with the K2 that I have been using for the past two years. As I posted on this list about 6 months ago, my impression of the release of the K3 is that it is a lot like release of the whatever is the latest version of Windows. At the time, someone responded to me that thank God, Elecraft is not Microsoft. That much is true. Microsoft always makes its major releases several years before they are actually ready (and does not appear even to be embarrassed about it). Elecraft has dropped the ball only this once. Nevertheless, they have indeed dropped the ball on the K3. I stand by my initial expectation that although I would like to have a K3, I see no point in ordering one until at least two years after the initial release date. The seemingly endless delay in delivering on orders prepaid 7 months ago, the indefinite unavailability of the sub-receiver (a prime motivation in my choice to upgrade from the K2 when the time finally does come), and the rapid ongoing evolution of the firmware all indicate to me that the K3 was nowhere close to being ready when Elecraft started taking orders last spring. I remain a loyal customer of Elecraft, but I do hope that they will take a lesson from this debacle. Steve Kercel AA4AK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution
Did you install that DB9 Gil? I ask because a common mistake when assembling the connector is to put the shoulders of the jack screws in the wrong place inside the housing. I became aware of it when some builders had that problem assembling the connectors supplied with their transverter kits no mating properly and making intermittent contact. Probably the best way to describe it is to refer you to Figure 10 on page 10 in the XV Owner's manual available here: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/XV%20Transverter%20Owner's%20Manual-D.pdf If the jack screws are positioned too far forward (toward the contacts) they will bottom out before the connectors are fully mated. Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Cross Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 3:21 PM To: Bob Patten; Elecraft Reflector; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution This missive caused me to look at my installation also. I found that the situation was not good. The contacts in the db9m connector made very minimal contact. In fact the retaining screws would not draw the connectors together fully and if the connectors were forced together as far as they would go ,you could then pull on the connector attached to the cable and the result was you were able to pull the connectors apart by .03 or more but still evidently making contact but in my mind not a good situation at allAlso the cable connector could be wiggled somewhat. I have made a couple of wire washers from #18 wire and placed them between the shoulder of the retaining screws and the connector housing, also I removed the lock washers from under the jack screw nuts. This gave me another.07 of engagement when the screws were tightened to hold the connectors together and there is no longer any wiggle of the cable connector. Works for me until something better comes along. Gil K8EAG K3 99 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Fwd: [qrp-l.org] HELP Missing 13 year old
I rarely forward emails, especially to a reflector, but since I am a Police Officer, I felt compelled to make an exception. Please help Perry find his neice. Thanks 73/72 Chris Blaase NV9Z KX1 #1455 Hagerstown IN -Original Message- From: Perry WA8THK FP 582 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Qrp-l org [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 4:44 pm Subject: [qrp-l.org] HELP Missing 13 year old Here is a TV station link http://www.wnem.com/news/15063671/detail.html My Neice 's Daughter is Missing please keep an Eye open for Them .. Perry wa8thk 810 635 7815 Perry Baker FP 582 Qrp-l org 108 _ ___ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shopping ___ http://mail.qrp-l.org/mailman/listinfo/qrp-l_qrp-l.org More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 Interfacing with old amplifiers
Perhaps my following question has been answered in esoteric terms too hard for my simple brain to fathom. Q Under Interfacing, in the K3 FAQs, the next to last question reads Does the K3 have a variable delay (0-50 ms) to control older amp TX relays ? The answer was Yes --, but not in the initial shipment. My question is: Has this feature been implemented yet, and if not, approximately when will it be done? This is a very desirable feature to me, as my amp relays are old and slow (like me!) This is the third time I've asked this question, with no response the first two times. Anyone know the answer? I would really appreciate knowing. Tnx and 73 George, N4YM Mucho mojo K2 # 4758 2nd wave K3 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: AGC question
Didn't I read somewhere that in the architecture of the K3, the AGC only operates when necessary to prevent the DSP from being overloaded? This refers to the hardware AGC. In the case of the strange AGC behavior, I would think the the digital AGC is meant, which is only math in the DSP code. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: AGC question
John [K7SVV] wrote: While checking the problem that someone reported a little while ago with the S meter being stuck when the AGC is turned off, I noticed that I don't hear any difference in the received signal when I turn AGC off and on. I have tried it with an S5 CW signal, an S9 SSB signal, and 40 over 9 signal on the AM broadcast band. I would expect each of these signals to much louder when the AGC is switched off but I hear no change at all. Strange, it is like the AGC is not being turned off. How about the rest of you fellows, what do you hear? Didn't I read somewhere that in the architecture of the K3, the AGC only operates when necessary to prevent the DSP from being overloaded? So perhaps you are just not listening to strong enough signals for it to have an effect. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/K3%3A-AGC-question-tp14959697p14961432.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] L34 on K2 tuning question?
Eddy Avila wrote: Changes while tuning L34 on my K2 are very subtle. Just barely hear L34 peak with the slug near the top of the canis this normal? I'm just trying to determine if the receiver on my K2 is working as it should. I went through the same thing just today. We also used a spectogram but after failing to hear an apreciable change we followed the next suggestion, alligning the 40-meter band pass filter. Once this was aligned we were able to tune L-34 by ear. It did indeed occur near the top of the can, as stated in the text. Once done everything tested ok! Bill- KE5KWE -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/L34-on-K2-tuning-question--tp14863908p14965855.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: RE: [Elecraft] Translation - 2nd RX
Dave Larson-2 wrote: I am sure it was a very hard and disappointing decision to have to return to the drawing board. Elecraft did the right thing in my opinion and when it is all over, their fine reputation that they have had in the past will be maintained. Whilst I tend to agree with you, it's easier for some who already have well equipped shacks to live with that decision than others. I still feel sorry for the guy a few months ago who sold his only radio so as to put down a deposit on a K3, never realizing how long he would have to wait. Vendors do have a responsibility to make accurate advertising and at the time I placed my deposit I never realized how much of the K3 was just an idea rather than an actual working prototype. Since I now have my albeit incomplete K3 it's hard to still feel annoyed about it, but I'm going to remember this episode when the K4 is announced in another 8 years time and I may well decide to wait that one out as a result. - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-Translation---2nd-RX-tp14958272p14961328.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 The Silence.
Correction: As many may have noticed, The silence from Elecraft has been deafening **since** Wayne's recent post detailing the snip ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 2nd RX Specification
So have Elecraft now down graded the sub receiver ? Virtually identical and identical are two different specifications. Yep. The second RX might even be better than the primary RX... ;-) Seriously, identical in this case was always a relative term. You can not seriously expect to receivers to have absolutely identical specs. Parts have tolerances, and these alone will always mean there is some variation from unit to unit, from board to board. I do not see this as downgrading the specs. Apart from this, it has always been obvious that, because parts of the second RX are not used for TX (e.g. roofing filters), the receivers could not have absolutely identical circuits. The website still says: In a first for the industry, the K3’s identical main receiver and subreceiver ... My read is: Elecraft has not downgraded the specs and are doing their best to insure that both receivers will run at full specs when both are in the same box. vy 73 de toby ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
AMEN! Tom AK2B wrote: Hi Steve, The Believers sounds more like a 60's rock group than a description of Elecraft customers. From my perspective, working for a small business, you become well acquainted with your customers over a period of time. A lot of these customers come back because they trust you based upon their past experiences. So, you are absolutely correct when you say that a company's word and reputation are paramount. I've been dealing with Elecraft since 2004. In that time I've had numerous occasions where I had to contact the company for a variety of reasons. In no case were my e-mails or phone calls ignored or sidetracked to a foreign country. Every experience I've had with Elecraft whether through their products or customer support has been positive. (I wish I could say that about more than a handful of the companies I do business with.) The simple truth is, any company can hit a bump in the road and will. At that point, they have to rely on their word and past reputation. Based upon Elecraft's track record, I don't feel the least worried. When I read posts like yours, I just assume you haven't any prior experience with the company in which to base your comments. It is very easy to look with a jaundiced eye towards a lot of disreputable businesses these days and then lump them all together. In the long run, though, it is not fair to those that who have done nothing to warrant it. I don't see Elecraft as a religion to which your Believers tag implies. They are a COMPANY of people of which I have had the pleasure of doing business with. I like what they sell and I like the way the treat me. It’s that simple. The K3 is as a major undertaking by a couple of wide eyed hams in Aptos who think they can build the world’s best amateur transceiver. I think they have done it – even though there remain a few bumps. I think they also feel a strong sense of responsibility in making sure that you not only get what they have advertised but that it also works as advertised. Frankly, I see it all as rather exciting that the K3 is still undergoing so many changes right before my eyes and that it only takes a few mouse clicks to implement them. But, make no mistake, the K3 as it sits is a remarkable product - maybe not finished - but, none-the-less, remarkable. The fact that the K3 will be getting even better with time leaves me feeling that my money was not only well spent – but is also producing dividends. Come to think of it, maybe I am a Believer. Tom, AK2B Steve Sacco NN4X wrote: Actually (and this may be a shock to The Believers) you might be surprised to know that there seems to be a rather LARGE group of people who agree with me, not only for the TRANSLATION e-mail, but also the OPEN LETTER e-mail which I sent last month. They say so, enthusiastically, in private correspondence. No joke. You see, John, when all's said and done, all we have is our reputation. There are those who stand and deliver on promises, those who don't. Those who's word cannot be trusted must be held accountable. This HAS to be the case, because, at a high level, what else holds a civilization together? Anyway, enjoy S/N 157! 73, Steve NN4X EL98jh ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] 2nd Rx and DVR3
I suppose like many I have felt aggrieved at delays etc in the past but have not added to the noise. However, the 2nd Rx and DVR3 issue though has prompted me to post. The nub of the matter isn't that Elecraft are so much better than YaeKenCom etc about 'admitting' their delays etc, the problem for me is that Options such as the 2nd Rx and DVR were toted as main features of the K3 (and thus, things that influenced my purchasing decision), not things that my be developed later. The fact that 8 months after I placed my order with deposit (2nd batch I thought... but I'm getting so confused now) there is no sign of a KDVR3 or KRX3 is shoddy at best, and bordering on deceptive. I'm a big Elecraft fan/supporter, and have been for years, but the fact that my ordered K3 keeps slipping away, that my 50% deposit (now) counts for nought (at the time the website lead me to believe it moved me up the chain..), and that key Options are still a long way from Production standard, just leaves me feeling bruised. I'm not at all reassured by the 'Shipping Updates' because unless one has an insight as to how many orders there were for 8/9/10 May 07 etc, it is completely meaningless for people with later orders. Sorry, I've kept my gob shut for a long time now, but this is not a good way to treat loyal customers. Flame away, I know this is heresy Paul M0CVX - Email sent from www.virginmedia.com/email Virus-checked using McAfee(R) Software and scanned for spam ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] Data Mode
Correct...it is for the audio data modes. Please keep in mind that PSK-D is not yet functional, so you will still need to use an external software application and Data-A mode. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 K3#0009 On Fri Jan 18 2:13 , G4ILO sent: Greg - AB7R wrote: Not yet, but having Line in automatically selected when in Data mode is on the list. This only applies to DATA A and AFSK A though. In PSK D, the transmitter ignores the audio input altogether. Some people may think this is stating the obvious, but when you are switched to PSK D to see how well the DSP decoder works compared to the PC soundcard decoder, and then decide to reply to someone, it isn't! - Julian, G4ILO K2 s/n: 392 K3 s/n: 222 G4ILO's Shack: www.g4ilo.com Zerobeat Ham Forums: www.zerobeat.net/smf -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Data-Mode- tp14946557p14948060.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 #234 assembled and had its first QSO
I got the K3/100 together in about 9 hours after it arrived at noon yesterday. I guess the options added more time than I thought it would, but everything went perfectly. Even if this rig never got powered up, it is truly a work of art. When I powered it up, everything tested out perfectly. It took me a couple of reads through the manual to figure out how to activate the KPA3, but that came up perfectly after I chose the correct menu setting. I love the sound of the side tone and the variable pass band is fantastic even with 1.0 kHz being my narrowest filter until the backordered 500 Hz arrives. The most startling thing though was when I hit the AFX button just to see what that meant...WOW, truly awesome. I was in the middle of my first QSO (40M CW) and the guy was very weak, but after I narrowed the bandwidth and hit the AFX button, he jumped out of the noise. What a pleasure. This rig may make a rag chewer out of a contester. (Naw, probably not ;-) ) I have only scratched 1% of what this rig will do so far, but it will be a pleasure to read the manual with an actual K3 in front of me as I learn this radio. I tried reading the manual before the rig arrived and it just didn't sink in very well, but now I can put the word, feel, look and sound together. Thanks Elecraft!!! Bob K5WA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Polar Bear QRP Event
The Polar Bear Moonlight Madness Event will be taking place tomorrow 19 January, 2008. QRP operating frequencies 20, 30, 40 and 80 meters between 1700-2300 UTC. Our fingers may be a little cold so “BEAR” with us if our replies are a little slow. Several Polar Bear QRP Operators will be taking to the field under the frosty full moon to capture a few QSO’s. We polar bears just love operating in the great outdoors. All PBMMEs are held close to full moons during the months of October, November, December, January, February and March. That's right - when it's cold! As a small incentive for folks to make QSO’s with the Polar Bears, A limited edition Polar Bear Backpacking Alcohol Stove, wind screen and fuel bottle will be given away to the operator who makes the most QSO’s with the Polar Bears. A look at the stove and a list of a few of the operators is on the web page. http://www.polarbearqrp.org/PBMME01-08.html To apply for the prize you must send in a copy of your log. (NOTE: Logs should reflect: Time of QSO in UTC, Freq, and Polar Bear Number) Send a copy of your log via email in ASCII format to K2CG (at sign) arrl.net All logs must be received by 25 January 2008. This is not meant to be a contest so please avoid the hit and run QSO’s. If you tag us on 30 meters then the hope is that you will chat for a little before moving on. Polar Bears should be identifying themselves by calling “CQ CQ PBMM DE...” Thanks and 72 K2CG Chuck G. Polar Bear #16 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft Cover
Got a couple of Kopp covers, one for my K3 and the other for one of my K2s. They arrived quickly. They were professionally done. They are a great addition to the ham shack. 73 Dick W4RAK K3 serial #105 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 The Silence.
As many may have noticed, The silence from Elecraft has been deafening Wayne's recent post detailing the delay with the K3 subreceiver. IMO (in my opinion) This could mean only one of two things: 1. The company has begun a damage control policy, allowing for a complete written Mea culpa or possibly even a Mea maxima culpa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mea_culpa detailing the unforseen events that have brought a dark cloud over the heretofor sunny days of Elecraft. (or the other possibility) 2. They have continued working on my K3 transceiver, which is due at my premises next week some time. I will not suggest my opinion in this matter on which way they should go. ;-) I feel certain that events related to the delivery of the base K3 radio lessened the priority of all phases of the subreceiver. Anyone that would challenge the sincerity of the company over this single issue never built one of their kits. Go back and read through the K2 archives, things went pretty well the same way over a number of years and all turned out well. _..._ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 2nd RX Specification
I have been reading all of the news since making my decision to purchase a K3. There have been several occasions I thought I should have made comment about the delivery schedule but have decided enough was already being said. But after the last posting about the delays on the second receiver, I need to ask a question Did you notice the following :- This is the latest news release about the sub receiver:- /When we release a product, it has to meet a number of criteria. Raw performance by traditional measures is just one of these. Fortunately the subreceiver has met our expectations in this regard, with dynamic range *virtually identical* to that of the main./ And this is the product specification from the web site :- In a first for the industry, the K3’s *identical main receiver and subreceiver* each feature a high-dynamic-range, down-conversion analog architecture. So have Elecraft now down graded the sub receiver ? Virtually identical and identical are two different specifications. I ordered (Dayton Hamvention ) a K3 to have two identical receivers - not to have a sub receiver that was less than, but not equal to the main receiver, if I wanted that I could have purchased one of the other twin receive transceivers and not waited for the K3 I do not think I am alone in thinking that anyone who has ordered the K3 for DXpedition operating is going to want what was stated in the product specification, and I as someone who is keen to work the most difficult of DX certainly have been waiting for this feature to appear on a new compact transceiver. I thought I had ordered that feature - but now I am not so sure . It is bad enough having to endure the constant changing delivery schedule - please don't tell me the specifications are going into decline in the same way Leaving the news release until 15 days before the scheduled delivery date it totally unprofessional, the problems should have been noticed weeks/months ago and a statement issued at the time. Phil G4UDU ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
Hi Steve, The Believers sounds more like a 60's rock group than a description of Elecraft customers. From my perspective, working for a small business, you become well acquainted with your customers over a period of time. A lot of these customers come back because they trust you based upon their past experiences. So, you are absolutely correct when you say that a company's word and reputation are paramount. I've been dealing with Elecraft since 2004. In that time I've had numerous occasions where I had to contact the company for a variety of reasons. In no case were my e-mails or phone calls ignored or sidetracked to a foreign country. Every experience I've had with Elecraft whether through their products or customer support has been positive. (I wish I could say that about more than a handful of the companies I do business with.) The simple truth is, any company can hit a bump in the road and will. At that point, they have to rely on their word and past reputation. Based upon Elecraft's track record, I don't feel the least worried. When I read posts like yours, I just assume you haven't any prior experience with the company in which to base your comments. It is very easy to look with a jaundiced eye towards a lot of disreputable businesses these days and then lump them all together. In the long run, though, it is not fair to those that who have done nothing to warrant it. I don't see Elecraft as a religion to which your Believers tag implies. They are a COMPANY of people of which I have had the pleasure of doing business with. I like what they sell and I like the way the treat me. It’s that simple. The K3 is as a major undertaking by a couple of wide eyed hams in Aptos who think they can build the world’s best amateur transceiver. I think they have done it – even though there remain a few bumps. I think they also feel a strong sense of responsibility in making sure that you not only get what they have advertised but that it also works as advertised. Frankly, I see it all as rather exciting that the K3 is still undergoing so many changes right before my eyes and that it only takes a few mouse clicks to implement them. But, make no mistake, the K3 as it sits is a remarkable product - maybe not finished - but, none-the-less, remarkable. The fact that the K3 will be getting even better with time leaves me feeling that my money was not only well spent – but is also producing dividends. Come to think of it, maybe I am a Believer. Tom, AK2B Steve Sacco NN4X wrote: Actually (and this may be a shock to The Believers) you might be surprised to know that there seems to be a rather LARGE group of people who agree with me, not only for the TRANSLATION e-mail, but also the OPEN LETTER e-mail which I sent last month. They say so, enthusiastically, in private correspondence. No joke. You see, John, when all's said and done, all we have is our reputation. There are those who stand and deliver on promises, those who don't. Those who's word cannot be trusted must be held accountable. This HAS to be the case, because, at a high level, what else holds a civilization together? Anyway, enjoy S/N 157! 73, Steve NN4X EL98jh -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/RE%3A-TRANSLATION%3A-K3-Subreceiver-Status-Update-tp14953421p14957797.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
Here's the new page - please feel free to add anything you know about. With the number of K3 users increasing greatly every day, the firmware can be expected to experience a variety of keystrokes and scenarios that the smaller beta group had not encountered. The E-guys make these issues a priority, The wiki can help provide a current moment view of any of these issues. http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/Firmware_problems_known_to_Elecraft%2C_on_the_list_to_be_fixed. [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior David Ferrington, M0XDF M0XDF at Alphadene.co.uk Fri Jan 18 13:19:37 EST 2008 Previous message: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior Next message: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior Thanks, I've noted that on the page at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis (that page is going to move on Sunday, sorry, but I will link to new page). ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution
This worked for me too. An added tip is one I got from Wayne when experiencing RF feedback on PSK31: Seat the two KIO3 rear panel connector boards (3.5mm fems, and also the RCA / 1/4 phono) so that there is a slight amount of interference with the screw-on panel. This allows the grounds for the jacks to make best contact with the 3.5mm plugs. It takes a little jiggling to get the fit to come out just right, but you need the jack bodies (sleeve is ground) to jut out just a little bit to get proper contact. matt, W6NIA On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:11:12 -0500, you wrote: I've been having intermittent computer problems with the K3 connected ever since installing the K3 on the operating desk. The ultimate disaster occurred during the RTTY Roundup when the computer shut itself off and lost my log with approximately 1100 QSO's. After making various attempts to block RF from entering the computer, I ran across what appears to be the solution. The DB9M connector on my serial cable used for K3 I/O had the standard threaded studs installed. These had to be removed to allow fitting to the K3 I/O port with its own threaded studs. With the studs removed, the connectors mated, but nothing but friction to hold them together. I wondered if perhaps the shells were making intermittent contact. I next drilled through the connector body where the studs were removed and inserted a spare pair of thumb screws that were left over from a DB9F connector. With these screwed into the K3's threaded studs to secure the connectors, I've not had any further RF problems with the computer. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] List of tips
As long as that list is purged when every firmware upgrade comes out, I would agree. Usually such lists are never updated and it becomes a 'worry list' left there to confuse new owners long after the problem has been fixed. 73, Don W3FPR David Cutter wrote: Both good sources, but a list of don't do this... as advised by John [K7SVV] might save a lot of headaches. It would be an impossible task to make such a list from scratch, but if operators find things out the hard way, it might also lead to software changes. David G3UNA ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3: AGC question
While checking the problem that someone reported a little while ago with the S meter being stuck when the AGC is turned off, I noticed that I don't hear any difference in the received signal when I turn AGC off and on. I have tried it with an S5 CW signal, an S9 SSB signal, and 40 over 9 signal on the AM broadcast band. I would expect each of these signals to much louder when the AGC is switched off but I hear no change at all. Strange, it is like the AGC is not being turned off. How about the rest of you fellows, what do you hear? John[K7SVV] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
There is no need to step to the incorrect band (but you do have to know which band is incorrect). A direct frequency entry for the band that is incorrect alone is sufficient (the K3 will switch to the band where the direct frequency entry is located). BTW, the K2 suffers from the same situation - you can twist the VFO knob and tune WAY out of the proper band - the frequency display will follow even though the VFO has long ago stopped changing frequency because it topped out. 73, Don W3FPR David Ferrington, M0XDF wrote: Thanks, I've noted that on the page at http://www.zerobeat.net/mediawiki/index.php/DontDoThis (that page is going to move on Sunday, sorry, but I will link to new page). On 18/1/08 17:28, John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band sequence is permanent until you manually correct it. In other words it won't go away by itself. To get the bands back into the correct sequence you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press AB to set VFO B to the same frequency. (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that band entry, press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press the AFX/ENTER button, and the press AB. Your band sequence should now be correct). No big deal repairing the damage. ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Translation - 2nd RX
2 days ago I received the invoice for my K3. Lisa, without my asking, applied my full payment for the 2nd rx to the K3. I now have the 2nd rx on backorder with none of my money tied up in it. I feel Elecraft handled this case properly. I am as disappointed as anyone that the 2nd rx may be a long way off. Elecraft could have shipped a lower quality 2nd rx and everything would have been just fine until we started to use it and found that it was inferior to the main rx. Doing so would have damaged Elecraft's reputation long term. I am sure it was a very hard and disappointing decision to have to return to the drawing board. Elecraft did the right thing in my opinion and when it is all over, their fine reputation that they have had in the past will be maintained. Dave, K8AA - Original Message - From: Dave Agsten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 12:33 PM Subject: [Elecraft] RE: Translation - 2nd RX Dave, N1LQ wrote : The delay of the second receiver option is to me both highly regrettable and somewhat deceptive. I, for one, based my purchase decision greatly on this option being ready for prime time which is obviously was not and apparently will not be any time soon. Production delays are forgivable and understandable but discovering that this option which is touted as a big-time feature but is really no where near ready is confidence deflating. I have been personally patient waiting for my K3 (as are many others) and occasionally publicly supportive on this list of the delays that Elecraft has been experiencing. Now we discover that a MAJOR K3 feature is no where near production ready, if even designed at this time. Come on I have to agree with Dave here. It's the same situation here. The delays are understandable. Even a SHORT, further delay with the KRX3, was accepable. Now it's listed merely as DELAYED. What does that really mean? If I recall correctly, the KRX3 2nd receiver option has been on the Elecraft info/order sheet, with no mention of being available in the future, at any time since its annoucement. All of the info sheets I have from Dayton show the KRX3 as being like any other option...such as filters. This option was certainly a deciding factor in ordering a K3. It wasn't until quite a few orders were taken that it was suddenly listed with a later shipping date that continues, even now, to slip. ( A big slip apparently, since now there isn't even a projected date ) I was never informed when placing my order on May 25th that the KRX3 would not be available with the rest of my order. Was anyone else who ordered before the KRX3 delay was posted notified that the it would not be immediately available? My 50% deposit was calculated with the KRX3 option included. It would be nice to know exactly what's going on here. If it is, as Wayne said, that they are redesigning for a valid reason, then there is no way the KRX3 should have been listed as an available option from Day 1. I was thinking about having my deposit applied to a K2 and waiting until who knows when for the 2nd production run to be shipped. Now, with the KRX3 news, I'm not sure what direction to go. It has made me decide to scrap the K2 idea. Perhaps an Orion II or an Omni VII for now and continue to wait and see on the K3. I could probably have either Ten-Tec within a week or so. Then, when the K3 comes along, I can do my own side-by-side. And, in reading a few of the latest list postings, there appears to be some issues with using the K3 being used in a certain manner before the KRX3 is available. ie. VFO A/B things. To me, having one band on VFO A and another on VFO B is perfectly normal and should not be an issue. It does seem that the K3 was actually announced and released a bit before it was ready for Prime Time. That was probably driven by the Visalia and Dayton dates which, obviously, would not be slipped. 73, Dave N8AG Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1230 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 4:59 PM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior
I suppose I should have mentioned that if you do get yourself into this situation with the band sequence being screwed up, the change to the band sequence is permanent until you manually correct it. In other words it won't go away by itself. To get the bands back into the correct sequence you will have to step to the band that is incorrect and then, using FREQ ENT, enter a frequency that is in the correct band and then press AB to set VFO B to the same frequency. (e.g. If the slot in the sequence that normally has 40m actually has an incorrect 80m frequency, then step to that band entry, press FREQ ENT, using the keypad enter a 40m frequency, press the AFX/ENTER button, and the press AB. Your band sequence should now be correct). No big deal repairing the damage. John[K7SVV] - Original Message - From: John [K7SVV] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 7:49 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior Ed, I just went through this last week. It is a known problem and is on Wayne's things-to-do list. What ever you do, don't press the SPLT button to go into split mode when you have the condition you described because if you do, you will screw up the band sequence when you step through the bands. At one point I had 3 80m bands and no 60m and 40m when I cycled through the bands. Until Wayne gets it fixed, be careful to not have different bands in VFO A and B. John[K7SVV] - Original Message - From: Ed K1EP [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2008 5:16 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3: Strange VFO Behavior I noticed this behavior this evening and I was wondering if anyone else could duplicate it. I have VFO A on 6M USB and VFO B on 10M USB. When I turn the VFO B knob, the VFO frequency changes, but the mode changes to LSB. If I turn VFO A now, the VFO A frequency changes and the mode goes back to USB. If I do a band down, I don't get 10M on VFO A, instead I still see 6M, plus get a PLL error message flash by. Does anyone else see this? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.6/1229 - Release Date: 1/17/2008 11:12 AM ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] RE: Translation - 2nd RX
Dave, N1LQ wrote : The delay of the second receiver option is to me both highly regrettable and somewhat deceptive. I, for one, based my purchase decision greatly on this option being ready for prime time which is obviously was not and apparently will not be any time soon. Production delays are forgivable and understandable but discovering that this option which is touted as a big-time feature but is really no where near ready is confidence deflating. I have been personally patient waiting for my K3 (as are many others) and occasionally publicly supportive on this list of the delays that Elecraft has been experiencing. Now we discover that a MAJOR K3 feature is no where near production ready, if even designed at this time. Come on I have to agree with Dave here. It's the same situation here. The delays are understandable. Even a SHORT, further delay with the KRX3, was accepable. Now it's listed merely as DELAYED. What does that really mean? If I recall correctly, the KRX3 2nd receiver option has been on the Elecraft info/order sheet, with no mention of being available in the future, at any time since its annoucement. All of the info sheets I have from Dayton show the KRX3 as being like any other option...such as filters. This option was certainly a deciding factor in ordering a K3. It wasn't until quite a few orders were taken that it was suddenly listed with a later shipping date that continues, even now, to slip. ( A big slip apparently, since now there isn't even a projected date ) I was never informed when placing my order on May 25th that the KRX3 would not be available with the rest of my order. Was anyone else who ordered before the KRX3 delay was posted notified that the it would not be immediately available? My 50% deposit was calculated with the KRX3 option included. It would be nice to know exactly what's going on here. If it is, as Wayne said, that they are redesigning for a valid reason, then there is no way the KRX3 should have been listed as an available option from Day 1. I was thinking about having my deposit applied to a K2 and waiting until who knows when for the 2nd production run to be shipped. Now, with the KRX3 news, I'm not sure what direction to go. It has made me decide to scrap the K2 idea. Perhaps an Orion II or an Omni VII for now and continue to wait and see on the K3. I could probably have either Ten-Tec within a week or so. Then, when the K3 comes along, I can do my own side-by-side. And, in reading a few of the latest list postings, there appears to be some issues with using the K3 being used in a certain manner before the KRX3 is available. ie. VFO A/B things. To me, having one band on VFO A and another on VFO B is perfectly normal and should not be an issue. It does seem that the K3 was actually announced and released a bit before it was ready for Prime Time. That was probably driven by the Visalia and Dayton dates which, obviously, would not be slipped. 73, Dave N8AG Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3 option)
Hi all, I have tried to stay out of the noise on this but I felt I had to comment. I know the delay in the 2nd Receiver is frustrating but I think the fact that one of the owners of the company will mail the list to say that they are reworking because they are not happy with the result is fantastic! It would have been so easy to simply release it 'as is'. However, they have decided it is not up to the standard they were looking for. I cannot think of another company so committed to quality. I would much rather wait and get a great product. On the subject of the Omni VII, in my opinion it is not an Omni at all, it is a Jupiter. VHF first IF etc. The Omni VII was a far better radio IMHO. You may have different opinions of course :-) I am sure if the gentleman who is thinking about cancelling his K3 order were to ask, there would be plenty of people looking for his place in the queue ;-) 73 Ian -- Ian J Maude, G0VGS SysOp GB7MBC DX Cluster Member RSGB, GQRP K2 #4044 |K3 #? ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update (KRX3
N1LQ-Dave wrote: The Ten Tec Omni VII has a 5.0 Review rating out of 25 reviews on Eham and may be a worthy and fully developed competitor. -- Dave I have an OMNI VII and am very pleased with it, I particularly like TenTec radios, I've got to really like the scope display,having had a PRO III and ORION II before. However, I don't think you will be able to compare the OMNI VII to the K3. They are different radios. The K3 looks in my opinion to be unbeatable and will become the Top radio in 2008. I'm looking forward to reading the ARRL and RSGB reviews eventually. 73 Rob G3RCE K2 #5219, Fists 12517 --- ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] RE: Translation - 2nd RX
These delays are dissapointing to me as well, but I would rather have it right, than to go out with issues. I look at the Yaesu FT-2000 (and the 9000 for that fact) was released with a lot of issues which still have not been resolved. I would have Elecraft resolve these things before releasing them, no matter how dissapointing it may seem Mike, N4GW -- Original message from Stewart Baker [EMAIL PROTECTED]: -- And while were are at it, how about the KDVR3 (Digital Voice Recorder Option). This also seems to have slipped into the DELAYED category. For me, in addition to the 2nd receiver this modules availability was a decision maker. Total lack of transparency Stewart G3RXQ On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 09:33:05 -0800 (PST), Dave Agsten wrote: Dave, N1LQ wrote : The delay of the second receiver option is to me both highly regrettable and somewhat deceptive. I, for one, based my purchase decision greatly on this option being ready for prime time which is obviously was not and apparently will not be any time soon. Production delays are forgivable and understandable but discovering that this option which is touted as a big-time feature but is really no where near ready is confidence deflating. I have been personally patient waiting for my K3 (as are many others) and occasionally publicly supportive on this list of the delays that Elecraft has been experiencing. Now we discover that a MAJOR K3 feature is no where near production ready, if even designed at this time. Come on I have to agree with Dave here. It's the same situation here. The delays are understandable. Even a SHORT, further delay with the KRX3, was accepable. Now it's listed merely as DELAYED. What does that really mean? If I recall correctly, the KRX3 2nd receiver option has been on the Elecraft info/order sheet, with no mention of being available in the future, at any time since its annoucement. All of the info sheets I have from Dayton show the KRX3 as being like any other option...such as filters. This option was certainly a deciding factor in ordering a K3. It wasn't until quite a few orders were taken that it was suddenly listed with a later shipping date that continues, even now, to slip. ( A big slip apparently, since now there isn't even a projected date ) I was never informed when placing my order on May 25th that the KRX3 would not be available with the rest of my order. Was anyone else who ordered before the KRX3 delay was posted notified that the it would not be immediately available? My 50% deposit was calculated with the KRX3 option included. It would be nice to know exactly what's going on here. If it is, as Wayne said, that they are redesigning for a valid reason, then there is no way the KRX3 should have been listed as an available option from Day 1. I was thinking about having my deposit applied to a K2 and waiting until who knows when for the 2nd production run to be shipped. Now, with the KRX3 news, I'm not sure what direction to go. It has made me decide to scrap the K2 idea. Perhaps an Orion II or an Omni VII for now and continue to wait and see on the K3. I could probably have either Ten-Tec within a week or so. Then, when the K3 comes along, I can do my own side-by-side. And, in reading a few of the latest list postings, there appears to be some issues with using the K3 being used in a certain manner before the KRX3 is available. ie. VFO A/B things. To me, having one band on VFO A and another on VFO B is perfectly normal and should not be an issue. It does seem that the K3 was actually announced and released a bit before it was ready for Prime Time. That was probably driven by the Visalia and Dayton dates which, obviously, would not be slipped. 73, Dave N8AG Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
Likewise. Jim - KE0NE - Original Message - From: John Klewer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Tom AK2B [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 2:50 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update AMEN! Tom AK2B wrote: Hi Steve, The Believers sounds more like a 60's rock group than a description of Elecraft customers. From my perspective, working for a small business, you become well acquainted with your customers over a period of time. A lot of these customers come back because they trust you based upon their past experiences. So, you are absolutely correct when you say that a company's word and reputation are paramount. I've been dealing with Elecraft since 2004. In that time I've had numerous occasions where I had to contact the company for a variety of reasons. In no case were my e-mails or phone calls ignored or sidetracked to a foreign country. Every experience I've had with Elecraft whether through their products or customer support has been positive. (I wish I could say that about more than a handful of the companies I do business with.) The simple truth is, any company can hit a bump in the road and will. At that point, they have to rely on their word and past reputation. Based upon Elecraft's track record, I don't feel the least worried. When I read posts like yours, I just assume you haven't any prior experience with the company in which to base your comments. It is very easy to look with a jaundiced eye towards a lot of disreputable businesses these days and then lump them all together. In the long run, though, it is not fair to those that who have done nothing to warrant it. I don't see Elecraft as a religion to which your Believers tag implies. They are a COMPANY of people of which I have had the pleasure of doing business with. I like what they sell and I like the way the treat me. It’s that simple. The K3 is as a major undertaking by a couple of wide eyed hams in Aptos who think they can build the world’s best amateur transceiver. I think they have done it – even though there remain a few bumps. I think they also feel a strong sense of responsibility in making sure that you not only get what they have advertised but that it also works as advertised. Frankly, I see it all as rather exciting that the K3 is still undergoing so many changes right before my eyes and that it only takes a few mouse clicks to implement them. But, make no mistake, the K3 as it sits is a remarkable product - maybe not finished - but, none-the-less, remarkable. The fact that the K3 will be getting even better with time leaves me feeling that my money was not only well spent – but is also producing dividends. Come to think of it, maybe I am a Believer. Tom, AK2B Steve Sacco NN4X wrote: Actually (and this may be a shock to The Believers) you might be surprised to know that there seems to be a rather LARGE group of people who agree with me, not only for the TRANSLATION e-mail, but also the OPEN LETTER e-mail which I sent last month. They say so, enthusiastically, in private correspondence. No joke. You see, John, when all's said and done, all we have is our reputation. There are those who stand and deliver on promises, those who don't. Those who's word cannot be trusted must be held accountable. This HAS to be the case, because, at a high level, what else holds a civilization together? Anyway, enjoy S/N 157! 73, Steve NN4X EL98jh ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] TRANSLATION: K3 Subreceiver Status Update
Nicely said, Tom. 73! Ken Kopp - K0PP ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution
This missive caused me to look at my installation also. I found that the situation was not good. The contacts in the db9m connector made very minimal contact. In fact the retaining screws would not draw the connectors together fully and if the connectors were forced together as far as they would go ,you could then pull on the connector attached to the cable and the result was you were able to pull the connectors apart by .03 or more but still evidently making contact but in my mind not a good situation at allAlso the cable connector could be wiggled somewhat. I have made a couple of wire washers from #18 wire and placed them between the shoulder of the retaining screws and the connector housing, also I removed the lock washers from under the jack screw nuts. This gave me another.07 of engagement when the screws were tightened to hold the connectors together and there is no longer any wiggle of the cable connector. Works for me until something better comes along. Gil K8EAG K3 99 - Original Message - From: Bob Patten [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Elecraft Reflector elecraft@mailman.qth.net; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:11 AM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 I/O Caution I've been having intermittent computer problems with the K3 connected ever since installing the K3 on the operating desk. The ultimate disaster occurred during the RTTY Roundup when the computer shut itself off and lost my log with approximately 1100 QSO's. After making various attempts to block RF from entering the computer, I ran across what appears to be the solution. The DB9M connector on my serial cable used for K3 I/O had the standard threaded studs installed. These had to be removed to allow fitting to the K3 I/O port with its own threaded studs. With the studs removed, the connectors mated, but nothing but friction to hold them together. I wondered if perhaps the shells were making intermittent contact. I next drilled through the connector body where the studs were removed and inserted a spare pair of thumb screws that were left over from a DB9F connector. With these screwed into the K3's threaded studs to secure the connectors, I've not had any further RF problems with the computer. -- 73, Bob Patten, N4BPPlantation, FL E-Mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED]Website: http://www.qsl.net/n4bp SOC #1 ARS #799QRP ARCI #3412 FISTS #7871 FP #1491SMIRK #6625 ___ ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Notice of invoice
Rec'd invoice #47805 for K3/100 kit for order with deposit dated 14May'07. KRX3 on backorder. Nandu. VU2NKS ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] K3 AFX
What am I doing wrong. When I plug in my stereo earphones I expect to hear the special effects that others have been noting. It sounds like plain old fashioned stereo to me .. no special effects. This is while listening to CW or SSB. I have speaker set to 1. Speaker + Phones is OFF. I have tried two different sets of stereo phones and tried all of the choices in the AFX menu (delay 1 to 5, and b in). Maybe my head is just hard wired to ignore the effects. Don K7FJ K3 #195 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
RE: [Elecraft] K3 AFX
What am I doing wrong. When I plug in my stereo earphones I expect to hear the special effects that others have been noting. It sounds like plain old fashioned stereo to me .. no special effects. This is while listening to CW or SSB. I have speaker set to 1. Speaker + Phones is OFF. I have tried two different sets of stereo phones and tried all of the choices in the AFX menu (delay 1 to 5, and b in). Set SPKR = 2. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 AFX
You might want to see if it makes any difference if you push the AFX button (lower right of the keypad). This toggles AFX on and off. matt, W6NIA On Fri, 18 Jan 2008 21:38:02 -0800, you wrote: What am I doing wrong. When I plug in my stereo earphones I expect to hear the special effects that others have been noting. It sounds like plain old fashioned stereo to me .. no special effects. This is while listening to CW or SSB. I have speaker set to 1. Speaker + Phones is OFF. I have tried two different sets of stereo phones and tried all of the choices in the AFX menu (delay 1 to 5, and b in). Set SPKR = 2. 73, Ed - W0YK ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
[Elecraft] Delayed Elecraft cover messages
My apology for the bandwidth, but ... We've just discovered (tonight, Friday) that there were 52 (!) messages waiting on our ISP that were addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Some were over a week old! All have now been received and responded to. If you still haven't received a reply to an earlier inquiry please e-mail me. 73! Rose Kopp - N7HKW [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
