[Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

I did have a search for this, but I found no other replies, so I'm wondering
if anyone else is having the same problem.

I recently installed LBuntu 12.04 on my netbook which I use for updating the
K3, previously it had 10.04 LTS and the K3 utility worked fine, but now with
Lbuntu it doesn't seemed to work. The utility opens but it wouldn't pick up
the USB port connection.

I spent a couple of hours last night trying all different things, it seems
like Lbuntu no longer seems to recognise ttyUSB1, I even tried installing
PuTTY to see if I could change the settings using that, but no.

The only way I could get around the problem was to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a
separate small partition of its own and presto, without touching anything it
worked, just a bit of a nuisance having two operating systems when one
should do. 

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Fred Smith]

I wanted a logging program that did everything one should and be very
customizable and advanced in features. I tried them all free and purchased
and after a year made a decision on one that was head and shoulders above
the others that being Logic8 now 9. That was 5 years ago and would hate to
ever have to change the main reason you have phone and email access to the
developer for problems and help if you need it. If you have a problem you
can't get resolved yourself he can logon to your computer and work on the
program to fix or add whatever needs to be done. He responds in real time
and updates come as soon as a problem is found or a new feature needs to be
added to the program.

It does all of the things named in this thread and adds too them with
support for most all contests, QSO parties, Field Day and so on. Award
tracking and needed entries by band and mode not confirmed can be setup with
voice announce. The best way to check the Best Logger out is go to
hosenose.com then go to Logic9 and download a full working version for a 30
day trial and judge for you. A really good logging program is big deals in
our shacks now with all they do and even the most costly of them are one of
the cheapest things we do in the hobby. So why not choose the best?

73,
Fred/N0AZZ

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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2012 9:04 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

Depends what you want in a logging application.
If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig control
it's just fine.

If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration, flexible
award handling and tracking including log database sorting, integration of
LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc, etc, etc... Look
elsewhere.

I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and N1MM,
also free, for contesting.
Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are
numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your
computer (a little buggy).
Still others like Logger32.

If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it.


On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
> I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran 
> across these comments.
> I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF 
> contests and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties.
>
> Anyone have anything good to say about the software?  Alternatives 
> with the same capabilities?
>
> 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW


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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - K3 Comparison Question

[OE5CSP-Chris]

Paul,

I also did an A to B comparison. The K2( with KAF2) sounds very nice, but
the K3 even a bit nicer!

73,Chris-OE5CSP

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[KA1OZ]

Hi there--

I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 with K3 Utility v1.12.3.28 with no problems at
all!  I don't know the difference between Ubuntu and Lbuntu, but perhaps
David Fleming does (he coded the K3 Utility for Linux).

73 de Dick, ka1oz
Elecraft K3/100K #859
GAP Titan-DX Vertical
G5RV Doublet


On 06/04/2012 03:10 AM, G4LNA wrote:
> I did have a search for this, but I found no other replies, so I'm wondering
> if anyone else is having the same problem.
> 
> I recently installed LBuntu 12.04 on my netbook which I use for updating the
> K3, previously it had 10.04 LTS and the K3 utility worked fine, but now with
> Lbuntu it doesn't seemed to work. The utility opens but it wouldn't pick up
> the USB port connection.
> 
> I spent a couple of hours last night trying all different things, it seems
> like Lbuntu no longer seems to recognise ttyUSB1, I even tried installing
> PuTTY to see if I could change the settings using that, but no.
> 
> The only way I could get around the problem was to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a
> separate small partition of its own and presto, without touching anything it
> worked, just a bit of a nuisance having two operating systems when one
> should do. 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Cheat sheets (by VE3HLS) -- Update

[Wilford D Lindsey]

Hey -

I just traded for one of these fabulous compact rigs!  If it's not too late, 
I'd also like a set of these cheat sheets.  I'm good in ARRL.

TIA.

73,
Doc/K0EVZ

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Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Cheat sheets (by VE3HLS) -- Update
Sent: May 10, 2012 03:53

I would love a copy of the cheat sheets too.  I picked up a KX1 off eBay. 
Great stuff!

My email address is k6ozy [ AT ] A R R L [dot] n e t

thx.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

Thanks for that Dick, I think the only real difference is the Desktop, the
Lbuntu is the light version of Ubuntu which as it doesn't have the glossy
graphics heavy Desktop. I haven't tried it on the Desktop PC as it means
lugging the radio downstairs to the main computer, that's the reason why I
use the Netbook.

I don't really want to put Ubuntu 12.04 on the Netbook as it slows it down
quite a bit, I might have to stick with the work around for now.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[Adrian]

Unplug and then replug the K3 usb interface, and then run dmesg in terminal.

Please tell us what it says regarding the device assigned to ftdi?

 

Adrian . vk4tux

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I did have a search for this, but I found no other replies, so I'm wondering

if anyone else is having the same problem.

 

I recently installed LBuntu 12.04 on my netbook which I use for updating the

K3, previously it had 10.04 LTS and the K3 utility worked fine, but now with

Lbuntu it doesn't seemed to work. The utility opens but it wouldn't pick up

the USB port connection.

 

I spent a couple of hours last night trying all different things, it seems

like Lbuntu no longer seems to recognise ttyUSB1, I even tried installing

PuTTY to see if I could change the settings using that, but no.

 

The only way I could get around the problem was to install Ubuntu 9.10 on a

separate small partition of its own and presto, without touching anything it

worked, just a bit of a nuisance having two operating systems when one

should do. 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] K3_EZ 2.0.0.8

[Bill]

I too went back to the older version. I was having loading problems and 
system (win7-64) errors when starting it. Contacted N2BC and he had me 
download a newer version - it loaded OK, but caused other problems with 
the system.

Uninstalled it completely and installed the old version and all is fine 
now. Sometimes newer is not always best.

Bill W2BLC
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IN GOD I TRUST (but, NOT a single politician)
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[Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[Adrian]

dmesg should show you something like this at the end;

   192.599029] usb 3-1: Product: FT232R USB UART
[  192.599032] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
[  192.599034] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: A9004unM
[  192.607088] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[  192.607129] usb 3-1: Detected FT232RL
[  192.607132] usb 3-1: Number of endpoints 2
[  192.607135] usb 3-1: Endpoint 1 MaxPacketSize 64
[  192.607138] usb 3-1: Endpoint 2 MaxPacketSize 64
[  192.607140] usb 3-1: Setting MaxPacketSize 64
[  192.609088] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to 
ttyUSB0
[root@fedora16desk ~]# dmesg

¨now attached to ttyUSB0¨ this is what we are looking for.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

Hi Adrian, I did that last night and it was picking it up, this morning I've
been comparing it with the Desktop PC and there is no difference between the
two as far as I can see, the listings are identical, so it should work.

I might give it another go later, we are going out in a moment, so I'll give
it a try when I get back in a few hours.

I'll post back later on how I get on.

Paul.

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[Elecraft] K3Util & LPBridge & W4P3

[Adrian]

I have the extra usb vga card working well to deliver the W4P3 prog via 
Eliphan vga grabber, to the original viewsonic screen at suggested 1440 
x 900 resolution, which fills the screen nicely and matches suggested P3 
setting.

However it doesn't compare to the clarity of the direct connection 1920 
x 1080 viewsonic to the P3, but I am just playing. I can use the laptop 
plus both external screens in the existing configuration setups to 
enable W4P3 on its own screen on the viewsonic.

Has anyone found a way to run K3Util on LPbridge v-ports to enable W4P3 
& K3Util to run simultaneously with the main connected to K3?

Adrian ... vk4tux
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 Cheat sheets (by VE3HLS) -- Update

[Bruce Beford]

Copy sent to Doc. -Bruce, N1RX

> I just traded for one of these fabulous compact rigs!  If it's not too 
> late, I'd also like a set of these cheat sheets.  I'm good in ARRL.

> TIA.

> 73,
> Doc/K0EVZ




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[Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[AB1DD]

Been using the Field Day software with a K-3 connection with no problems for a 
few years. Might be something to do with the fact that it is running on Win NT!

73,
Carl
AB1DD

Resistance is futile.
(don't know about reactance, though)
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[Elecraft] K3 transmitter spurs

[Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy]

Has any owner of a K3 measured the level of in-band and out of band spurs 
generated by the K3's transmitter when running 100 watts CW, all bands 160m 
to 6m?

TIA.

73,

Geoff
LX2AO


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[Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[Adrian]

Paul, Sound like a permissions problem, sudo chmod 777 the device and 
try again.
Or, join a group with permissions, eg: dialout

run (example , use your ttyUSBx id)

[root@fedora16desk ~]# ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw 1 root dialout 188, 0 Jun  4 19:49 /dev/ttyUSB0
[root@fedora16desk ~]#

Above will show the group owner i.e dialout.

Adrian ... vk4tux









Hi Adrian, I did that last night and it was picking it up, this morning I've
been comparing it with the Desktop PC and there is no difference between the
two as far as I can see, the listings are identical, so it should work.

I might give it another go later, we are going out in a moment, so I'll give
it a try when I get back in a few hours.

I'll post back later on how I get on.

Paul.


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[Elecraft] W2 - coupla' coupler questions

[Mike Markowski]

I'm contemplating buying a W2 and wonder about the RF sensors:

1) When most operating is 100W or less, is the 0-2 kW coupler appreciably less
sensitive than the 0-200 W coupler?

2) If the answer to (1) is yes and a 0-200W coupler is used, are there any
coupler worries when operating the kpa500 at > 200W?

Thanks,
Mike ab3ap
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[John Shadle]

Hi Terry,
I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now
my K3. I haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking
on a spot to do a frequency change with either rig. I can take a look
at my settings if you like.

So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the
wrong mode and even frequency? That's strange...

N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's
now at version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far,
myself). If you purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free
upgrade.

It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too.
I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in
setting up the software.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/

73
-john W4PAH
Madison, WI

> If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command 
> strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me with 
> the software settings you've used.  I have not been able to get ACLog to 
> interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software worked 
> fine with my FT1000MP).  The software reads the K3 data just fine.  But DX 
> spot clicks seem to go very slowly and the mode, band and frequency changes 
> seem to be all mixed up.  Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends the 
> commands to the K3 in a "non-standard" format but claims to "generally 
> support" the Elecraft line. The command string references I have found in the 
> K3 manual have not been successful, but I don't rule out an error on my part 
> there.
>
> Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog 
> command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular 
> logging/rig control offerings that many of you use.  Most programs offer WAY 
> too many features for my needs.  Many thanks.
>
> 73,
>
> Terry, W0FM
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[Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[Bill]

I enjoy my K3 very much, but I am not overly impressed with the level of 
"user" support offered via the forums/groups/reflectors.

To me, it is very irritating the amount of private reporting/discussion 
that goes on regarding the Elecraft products. It should ALL be out in 
the open with nothing hidden. That way, we all get to learn at the same 
time and do not have to reinvent the wheel as problems arise.

This is not a Cool-Aide drinking society - there is nothing to protect 
or hide. The manufacturers and third party providers all must have very 
thick skin and try to work with problems incurred. Users should endeavor 
to get the word out when there are problems.  With all involved, it 
assures that problems will be well vetted and quickly corrected.

The K3 niche is small on the great scale of ham radio. Hence, it is good 
to work together - not behind closed doors.
Perhaps the forums/groups/reflectors should endeavor to work as well as 
the Elecraft factory support.

Thanks,

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Cheat sheets

[Niel Skousen]

Has anyone updated / created a cheat sheet for the KX3 yet ??

If so, could you forward a copy to me please…

Thanks
Niel
WA7SSA

On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Julie McGrew wrote:

> Hello ...
> 
> Would you be so kind as to forward me a copy of the cheat sheets?  I'm
> happily in the process of building the KX1.
> 
> Many thanks &73's
> julie, AC0WN
> 
> julie(at)techproductions.com
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Terry Schieler]

Thanks John.

It has worked well with my K2 for years and great with my FT-1000MP since 1999. 
 But since day one with the K3 there has been problems with the DX spotting.  I 
asked Scott about it when I built my K3 (#474), he said that it was Elecraft's 
fault (that the K3 expects the command string in a different format than other 
radios) and he wasn't going to waste his time trying to figure it out.  Others 
who responded to this post said they got the same answer from Scott and gave up 
and moved on.  The program works fine except for the DX spotting.  And, that 
too, actually works (kinda, eventually).  When I click on a DX spot first the 
MODE changes, which results in a change in received audio (CW to LSB, AM or 
whatever), then the BAND changes which results in another audible change, and 
finally, the frequency catches up.  This happens in about 1.5 to 2 seconds.  
The point is, HRD and Logger32, N1MM and others all cause my K3 to quickly and 
quietly jump to the correct spot.  I have upgraded to ACLog 3.2 hoping for a 
fix but it is no better in this regard.  I have double checked the speed, port, 
parity and stop bit and all is as specified.

Your settings from ACLog would be very much appreciated if you find time.  
Thanks for your response.

73,

Terry, WØFM




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From: John Shadle [mailto:sha...@katzenfisch.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 8:39 AM
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Cc: terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

Hi Terry,
I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now my K3. I 
haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking on a spot to do a 
frequency change with either rig. I can take a look at my settings if you like.

So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the wrong mode 
and even frequency? That's strange...

N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's now at 
version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far, myself). If you 
purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free upgrade.

It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too.
I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in setting up the 
software.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/

73
-john W4PAH
Madison, WI


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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[w1pns]

Bill, 


Are you sure that the private discussion and reporting is taking place because 
the initiator intended it that way, or because he/she forgot to use reply-all 
in replying to an initial post. This is one of several email list to which I 
subscribe that sends only to the original sender when I use the reply button on 
my email client. If I use reply-all, my response goes both to the original 
sender as well as to the list. 


I apologize if you've already taken this into account, but if not, it may 
explain why some of the exchanges may seem private... 


With best regards, 


Pete 
W1PNS 

- Original Message -
From: "Bill"  
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
Sent: Monday, June 4, 2012 10:04:47 AM 
Subject: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector 

I enjoy my K3 very much, but I am not overly impressed with the level of 
"user" support offered via the forums/groups/reflectors. 

To me, it is very irritating the amount of private reporting/discussion 
that goes on regarding the Elecraft products. It should ALL be out in 
the open with nothing hidden. That way, we all get to learn at the same 
time and do not have to reinvent the wheel as problems arise. 

This is not a Cool-Aide drinking society - there is nothing to protect 
or hide. The manufacturers and third party providers all must have very 
thick skin and try to work with problems incurred. Users should endeavor 
to get the word out when there are problems. With all involved, it 
assures that problems will be well vetted and quickly corrected. 

The K3 niche is small on the great scale of ham radio. Hence, it is good 
to work together - not behind closed doors. 
Perhaps the forums/groups/reflectors should endeavor to work as well as 
the Elecraft factory support. 

Thanks, 

Bill W2BLC 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

Good afternoon,

Here is the information from dmesg, the first one is of the Netbook using
Lbuntu 12.04, as you see it is being picked up, but it really doesn't work,
I tried it again just to be sure.

[   52.856061] usb 3-1: new full-speed USB device number 2 using uhci_hcd
[   53.099670] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[   53.099752] USB Serial support registered for generic
[   53.103768] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[   53.103778] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[   53.113059] USB Serial support registered for pl2303
[   53.114879] pl2303 3-1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
[   53.126519] usb 3-1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[   53.128651] usbcore: registered new interface driver pl2303
[   53.128660] pl2303: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor drive

And this is the Ubuntu 9.1

[   62.900095] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address
2
[   63.062310] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[   63.134997] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial
[   63.135057] USB Serial support registered for generic
[   63.135115] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbserial_generic
[   63.135121] usbserial: USB Serial Driver core
[   63.151225] USB Serial support registered for pl2303
[   63.151276] pl2303 3-1:1.0: pl2303 converter detected
[   63.163295] usb 3-1: pl2303 converter now attached to ttyUSB0
[   63.163335] usbcore: registered new interface driver pl2303
[   63.163340] pl2303: Prolific PL2303 USB to serial adaptor driver

there is a difference in the first couple of lines, I'm not really sure what
to make of it, anyone any ideas?

Thanks

Paul.



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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Lu Romero]

I will say something "nice" about ACLog/N3FJP.  

For a casual operator, its probably the best log package out
there for all its capabilities.  It will take a while to
outgrow and a while to find all its "compromises". But it
does a lot with a rather flat learning curve.  Its the most
powerful casual operator log around!

I have been a user since version 2, which I paid a whopping
$20 for.  Every update to date has been free.  You load it,
and you instinctively know what to do... It looks like a
cross between a paper log and an Excel spreadsheet.  Scott
has done a great job of documenting functions within the
program itself. Add to this the simplicity of use, and you
dont even need a help file or a manual to do any of the
everyday logging chores that a casual operator might want to
do.

The ACLog LoTW integration is paperclip simple and hockey
puck reliable.  One button does it all! 

An earlier thread spoke about LOGic 8/9.  Most of my local
friends have this $125 software along with their IC7800'ds
and PW-1's.  Setting aside that Logic is written in FoxPro,
a DBMS that has been obsolete for almost 10 years now, a
casual operator can do 95% of what Logic can do on ACLog for
$100 less, much in the same way that I can hear and work
anything my 7800/PW1 owning friends can hear and work on my
K3/P3/ALS600 rig for $9,000 less than their huge Icom rigs
can, given equivalent aluminum, and I can "take it with me"
in a 9.5lb portable package that I can lift to and from my
desk alone.  

My club also purchased Logic for, frankly, no other reason
than because "it is the best" as advised by the above 7800
owners.  It has trouble dealing with multiple users on
multiple computers (a probable limitation in the FoxPro
tuple locking code, in my professional opinion, Dennis has
had to make several workaround to it with some success, but
its still not working well).  This has been so much of a
pain that we have dispensed with trying to run it on all 5
logging computers and run N1MM on 4 of them, exporting ADIF
logs to Logic for upload to LoTW.  And even that could be
covered by ACLog, however, Logic is "paid for" and the QSL
manager likes it, and I dont need another job to do at the
club, so I let sleeping dogs lie :)

Does ACLog have limitations?  For more "advanced" users,
certainly.  It did have issues with rig control of K3,
mostly when clicking on a spot; it didnt deal with mode
settings correctly.  I hear that has been fixed with V3.2,
but I still have 3.0 installed. Even with V3.0, how hard is
it to reach up and hit the MODE button every once in a while
when ACLog fails to correctly deal with the mode switch from
a spot?

Do I still use ACLog?  No, I outgrew it when I moved to an
SO2R capable station configuration. I use Logger32 now
because, even with its own variable limitations, I like the
look of it (it resembles N1MM, which I use for contesting)
and the bandmap and the included world maps and its ability
to deal with two rigs (one at a time; ACLog is not SO2R
capable in ANY situaton). But admittedly, it is a complex
software package that has a learning curve. I dont use a lot
of its capability, but what I do use I now feel comfortable
with. It also has integrated RTTY, something ACLog does not
have (you can add the K7RE plug in, but its a bit clunky).

DXLabs, which I have also installed, is complex as well, but
works wonderfully in SO2R and does just about anything...
But I dont like the looks of it and I dont like how much
screen realestate it wants to look "right" for me.  It, too,
has a steep learning curve, and I would rather spend my time
operating than configuring software... I do enough of that
at work. 

For a casual operator, its hard to beat ACLog.  It grows on
you with its elegant simplicity (much like a K1 does!) and
is really simple to deal with.  I've yet to find a better
LoTW implementation than the drop dead simple one Scott
created for ACLog... So much so that I currently export my
Logger32 LoTW submissions to ACLog and confirm them using
that program instead of bothering with Logger32's LoTW
setup.  Im not doing that forever though, and as I climb up
the Logger32 learning curve, Im sure I will stop.

But in retrospect, I do miss the simplicity and efficiency
of ACLog.  Again, for Casual Operators, the feature set and
useability of this package is very hard to beat at any
price.  I know that Elecraft owners can relate to that
paradigm.

Lu Romero - W4LT
K3/P3/MFJ998/AL600 - The "AL K-Line"


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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:52:58 -0500
From: Terry Schieler 
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3]  N3FJP rig control settings?
To: 'David Gilbert' 
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Message-ID:
<6dd19ce6-7067-4088-9bf2-9000755f8...@wirelessusa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Well, a point to you, Dave.  I am not against moving on from
ACLog, it's just that
I'd become so accustomed to it that I had preferred to
"tough it out" until
*someone* figured it o

[Elecraft] [K3] Beta 4.51 and nice audio improvement

[Terry Schieler]

Loaded 4.51 Beta yesterday and was immediately impressed with the improved 
audio, CQ and SSB.  Very nice.  

Thanks guys!

73,
Terry, W0FM

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] Beta 4.51 and nice audio improvement Whoops!

[Terry Schieler]

Obviously should have read "CW and SSB".  



-Original Message-
From: Terry Schieler [mailto:terry.schie...@wirelessusa.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:53 AM
To: 'elecraft@mailman.qth.net'
Subject: [K3] Beta 4.51 and nice audio improvement

Loaded 4.51 Beta yesterday and was immediately impressed with the improved 
audio, CQ and SSB.  Very nice.  

Thanks guys!

73,
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[David Inger]

Hi Jim,
 
I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now.  I find it simple, easy to
use, and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me.  I
am a DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value).  ACLog
reports K3's band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do
for logging purposes.  I don't use it to control a rotator  (since my wire
antennas and vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX
spots;  I use the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that.  I also
find the program easy to use for my LoTW uploads.
 
I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio
Deluxe (which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc.
I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which
require a learning curve that I don't have the time for.  One good thing
about ACLog (which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export
your log in ADIF format.  If you chose to switch to another logger, it is
relatively painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of
choice.
 
These are my experiences for what it's worth.
 
73 de K6SBA
David in Santa Barbara
 
 
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[Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[Don Putnick]

Another reason for private conversations is that's the way many of us old time 
newsgroup users were taught. If it's of obvious interest to the entire group, 
then reply via the group. If it's specific to the original poster, reply via 
email. BUT then it is also the responsibility of the original poster to 
summarize and post the replies received, along with a "thank you".
 
I'm sort of curious. What leads you to the observation of private conversations?
 
Don NA6Z
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Terry Schieler]

David,

Your comments about the ease of use of the ACLog program for "casual" users is 
EXACTLY why I was hoping to find a fix for the DX spotting issue I have with 
ACLog and my K3.  I didn't want to give up the simplicity of ACLog, but had 
hoped to make it work *fully* with the K3.  It does everything I need (and 
intuitively) except a smooth spot.  I am resistant to change with something 
I've used for so many years.  But, I guess one can't have everything.

Terry, W0FM


-Original Message-
From: David Inger [mailto:ingerassocia...@cox.net] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:58 AM
To: jmlow...@sbcglobal.net
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

Hi Jim,
 
I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now.  I find it simple, easy to use, 
and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me.  I am a 
DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value).  ACLog reports K3's 
band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do for logging 
purposes.  I don't use it to control a rotator  (since my wire antennas and 
vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX spots;  I use 
the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that.  I also find the program 
easy to use for my LoTW uploads.
 
I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio Deluxe 
(which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc.
I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which require 
a learning curve that I don't have the time for.  One good thing about ACLog 
(which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export your log in 
ADIF format.  If you chose to switch to another logger, it is relatively 
painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of choice.
 
These are my experiences for what it's worth.
 
73 de K6SBA
David in Santa Barbara
 
 


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[Nate Bargmann]

When you enter "groups" at the shell prompt, what is returned?   It's
likely that you need to add your username to the dialout group.  You
will need to log out (at a minimum) and log back in after making the
change.

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[Elecraft] Elecraft rocks!

[richard allen]

I got my invoice last Wednesday for my kx3 and immediately called to change my 
shipping to next day air since I needed to leave Thursday for Hamcomm in Plano 
and my contest QTH for the weekend June VHF contest.

Well, when I got my shipping notice Friday it was marked to be sent UPS Ground 
and would be delivered Thursday nite.

After I calmed down I tried over the weekend to get UPS to change the delivery 
to will-call at the UPS center in the next town.  I was hoping to be able to 
pick it up on my way out to Dallas.  No such luck.

The great part: I called Elecraft at 8:20 their time this morning and talked to 
Madelyn to see if she could get the delivery changed to will-call.

She called me back about 20 minutes later and told me she had cancelled my 
shipment and sent me another kx3 overnite as I had requested.  Now, that is 
service!  Great job Madelyn and Elecraft!

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Willis]

If you are using a USB converter rather than a rs-232 connection it may be your 
problem as many of the USB converters do not give you a full featured 
connection.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2012, at 11:13, Terry Schieler  wrote:

> David,
> 
> Your comments about the ease of use of the ACLog program for "casual" users 
> is EXACTLY why I was hoping to find a fix for the DX spotting issue I have 
> with ACLog and my K3.  I didn't want to give up the simplicity of ACLog, but 
> had hoped to make it work *fully* with the K3.  It does everything I need 
> (and intuitively) except a smooth spot.  I am resistant to change with 
> something I've used for so many years.  But, I guess one can't have 
> everything.
> 
> Terry, W0FM
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: David Inger [mailto:ingerassocia...@cox.net] 
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 10:58 AM
> To: jmlow...@sbcglobal.net
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?
> 
> Hi Jim,
> 
> I have been using ACLog for about 2 years now.  I find it simple, easy to 
> use, and without a lot of complex features that are of no value...to me.  I 
> am a DX'er and an extremely casual contester (for the DX value).  ACLog 
> reports K3's band and exact frequency; which is all I really want it to do 
> for logging purposes.  I don't use it to control a rotator  (since my wire 
> antennas and vertical don't need rotators!) and I don't use it to report DX 
> spots;  I use the standalone DX cluster program DX Summit for that.  I also 
> find the program easy to use for my LoTW uploads.
> 
> I have tried several other logging programs such as logger32, Ham Radio 
> Deluxe (which I use for general rig control and digimodes), DX Keeper, etc.
> I find them all too bloated with features I have no use for, and which 
> require a learning curve that I don't have the time for.  One good thing 
> about ACLog (which is true of many logging programs) is that it will export 
> your log in ADIF format.  If you chose to switch to another logger, it is 
> relatively painless to export from ACLog and import into your new logger of 
> choice.
> 
> These are my experiences for what it's worth.
> 
> 73 de K6SBA
> David in Santa Barbara
> 
> 
> 
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[Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[ai6ii]

I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the K3
at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.  

And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME! 

So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?

..mike

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Mark Stennett]

What happens when you run the KPA-500 into a dummy load? If all is well, I 
would guess that something is changing under high power and affecting the 
load.

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 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down


I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
 with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the 
K3
 at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
 bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
 a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
 with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
 the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
 shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.  

 And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!

 So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
 premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

 I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?

 ..mike

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

Hi Nate,

Blast! As soon as you mentioned "groups" the penny dropped, I've no idea why
I didn't think of that sooner, I feel a right wally now :)

Thanks mate, all systems are go, now all I've got to do is to rid myself of
Ubuntu 9.1 and reclaim the partition, let the fun begin.

Thanks mate.

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

Mark has an excellent point, especially if you have a ferrite core
transformer (balun, etc.) somewhere in the antenna system. One thing that
can cause that behavior is heating of the toroid core. At a certain
temperature, the core's magnetic properties change dramatically, changing
the inductance and so causing the SWR to change. 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

What happens when you run the KPA-500 into a dummy load? If all is well, I
would guess that something is changing under high power and affecting the
load.

-Original Message-
 From: ai6ii 
 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
 Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
 Subject: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down


I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the
K3
 at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.  

 And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!

 So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

 I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?

 ..mike

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Don Wilhelm]

Mike,

My first guess is that it is not the coax, but attach a dummy load to 
the antenna end of the coax to test it under full power just to be certain.

The most likely thing is that something in your antenna system is arcing 
at the higher power.  End insulators?  Vegetation touching the antenna 
wire? center insulator arcing? or balun failing at power?

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 1:00 PM, ai6ii wrote:
> I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
> with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the K3
> at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
> bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
> a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
> with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
> the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
> shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.
>
> And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!
>
> So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
> premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.
>
> I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[mikefurrey]

My bet will be on a bad connection someplace after the amp. With power 
something is shorting ... could be in coax connector, antenna, etc ... been 
through that. Once had found an elevated radial on 160 inverted "L"  had 
dropped and touching a tree limb was the problem.

73, Mike

-Original Message- 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'ai6ii' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

Mark has an excellent point, especially if you have a ferrite core
transformer (balun, etc.) somewhere in the antenna system. One thing that
can cause that behavior is heating of the toroid core. At a certain
temperature, the core's magnetic properties change dramatically, changing
the inductance and so causing the SWR to change.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

What happens when you run the KPA-500 into a dummy load? If all is well, I
would guess that something is changing under high power and affecting the
load.

-Original Message-
From: ai6ii 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down


I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the
K3
at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.

And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!

So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?

..mike

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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[Bill]

Simple:  Two responses to my post here and five others in my mailbox.

Thanks for asking,

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Rick Johnson]

Jump back down to Ron's input.
I had that exact same scenario with my OCFD.  As soon as I transmitted
any length of time on CW above 250W the SWR would jump up and the
KPA500 would fault.
The problem was a too small torroid 4:1 balun.  I bought a 5KW balun
from Hy Power Antennas and the problem went away.
Just because the balun is rated to 5KW doesn't mean you have to use
that much power.

73,
Rick W3BI

-Original Message- 
From: mikefur...@att.net
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 1:47 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

My bet will be on a bad connection someplace after the amp. With power
something is shorting ... could be in coax connector, antenna, etc ... been
through that. Once had found an elevated radial on 160 inverted "L"  had
dropped and touching a tree limb was the problem.

73, Mike

-Original Message- 
From: Ron D'Eau Claire
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:33 PM
To: 'ai6ii' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

Mark has an excellent point, especially if you have a ferrite core
transformer (balun, etc.) somewhere in the antenna system. One thing that
can cause that behavior is heating of the toroid core. At a certain
temperature, the core's magnetic properties change dramatically, changing
the inductance and so causing the SWR to change.

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-

What happens when you run the KPA-500 into a dummy load? If all is well, I
would guess that something is changing under high power and affecting the
load.

-Original Message-
From: ai6ii 
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down


I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the
K3
at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.

And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!

So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?

..mike

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Greg]

I hate to say this but cable experts does not have a stellar record with
their installed connectors.  I would cut them off and install new ones.

73
Greg
 On Jun 4, 2012 10:55 AM, "Rick Johnson"  wrote:

> Jump back down to Ron's input.
> I had that exact same scenario with my OCFD.  As soon as I transmitted
> any length of time on CW above 250W the SWR would jump up and the
> KPA500 would fault.
> The problem was a too small torroid 4:1 balun.  I bought a 5KW balun
> from Hy Power Antennas and the problem went away.
> Just because the balun is rated to 5KW doesn't mean you have to use
> that much power.
>
> 73,
> Rick W3BI
>
> -Original Message-
> From: mikefur...@att.net
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 1:47 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down
>
> My bet will be on a bad connection someplace after the amp. With power
> something is shorting ... could be in coax connector, antenna, etc ... been
> through that. Once had found an elevated radial on 160 inverted "L"  had
> dropped and touching a tree limb was the problem.
>
> 73, Mike
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Ron D'Eau Claire
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:33 PM
> To: 'ai6ii' ; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down
>
> Mark has an excellent point, especially if you have a ferrite core
> transformer (balun, etc.) somewhere in the antenna system. One thing that
> can cause that behavior is heating of the toroid core. At a certain
> temperature, the core's magnetic properties change dramatically, changing
> the inductance and so causing the SWR to change.
>
> Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
>
> What happens when you run the KPA-500 into a dummy load? If all is well, I
> would guess that something is changing under high power and affecting the
> load.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: ai6ii 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 10:00:54 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down
>
>
> I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
> with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the
> K3
> at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
> bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
> a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
> with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
> the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
> shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.
>
> And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!
>
> So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
> premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.
>
> I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?
>
> ..mike
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[ai6ii]

Okay, some more info. The KPA500 does not have a problem with the inverted
vee for 40 meters, but I will set it up with a dummy load to check just in
case. And I will try the dummy load at the antenna end of the coax as a test
tomorrow.

The antenna is the new Q-52 2 element yagi five band from N6BT. It uses
relays on both the driven element and the reflector to cover 20m (high and
low) 17, 15, 12 and 10. I have contacted Tom Schiller who says he has tested
the antenna with 600-700 watts on CW so power should not be a problem. I
also thought the high power might somehow be keying the relays as the
eight-wire control cable parallels the coax 4 feet across the boom, down the
30 foot mast in through the garage in a pvc conduit then into the shack. I
tried moving the control box away from the amp and experimented with running
the coax a different route into the shack, although the coax and control
cable still came down the mast next to each other. None of these had any
affect. 

..mike AI6II

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Willis]

What Antenna are you using?  Not only the balun needs to be rated for your 
power but the coils and wire does too.  Many mfgrs overrated their equipment.  
For 500 watts use kw rated antennas.  RG 213 is good but wire and loading need 
to be #14.

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 4, 2012, at 12:00, ai6ii  wrote:

> I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
> with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the K3
> at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
> bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
> a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
> with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
> the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
> shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.  
> 
> And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME! 
> 
> So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
> premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.
> 
> I will try a different coax. Any other suggestions?
> 
> ..mike
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2012 04 Jun 11:45 -0500, Willis wrote:
> If you are using a USB converter rather than a rs-232 connection it may be 
> your problem as many of the USB converters do not give you a full featured 
> connection.

All that is needed for K3 control are TXD, RXD, and Ground.  DTR and RTS
are used for PTT and Key-in (see page 18 of the manual), not serial
communications.  The problem, as described earlier, is that the program
is setting the mode first and then the frequency.  I've asked other
program authors to reverse those two commands and they have willingly
complied.  The sequence is important on the K3 as mode is retained on a
per band/VFO basis and it acts on commands as autonomous units.  To me
it seems as though setting the freq first and then the mode should be
the proper sequence for all rigs, not just the K3.  Perhaps programs
should be smarter (and some likely are) where after changing the
frequency the mode is polled and then changed only if necessary.

The only problem with USB to serial adapters when controlling the K3 is
apparently with drivers on certain legacy operating systems.  I've used
a couple of Prolific based converters on my Linux machines with nary an
issue.

Sent from my Linux computer!

73, de Nate, N0NB >>

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Hank Garretson]

On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Willis  wrote:

For 500 watts use kw rated antennas.  RG 213 is good but wire and loading
> need to be #14.
>


Not my experience. For over five decades, I have used #18 wire for many
antennas. Current antenna has segments of #18 with no ill effects at 1.5kW
output.

73,

Hank, W6SX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[Nate Bargmann]

* On 2012 04 Jun 12:13 -0500, G4LNA wrote:
> Hi Nate,
> 
> Blast! As soon as you mentioned "groups" the penny dropped, I've no idea why
> I didn't think of that sooner, I feel a right wally now :)
> 
> Thanks mate, all systems are go, now all I've got to do is to rid myself of
> Ubuntu 9.1 and reclaim the partition, let the fun begin.

Ha ha!  Glad you have it sorted now.  I learned about permissions long
ago when I first started playing with Slackware in the mid '90s.  What
fun that was coming from a DOS background!

73, de Nate, N0NB >>

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Re: [Elecraft] P3 SVGA interference -

[Paul Saffren N6HZ]

I've found some adhesive clips that will allow the ribbon cable to be dressed
along the left inside panel.  They should be available by the end of this
week, by request, no charge (EPN: E980228). All future P3 kits and factory
assembled units will be getting them as well. 

Thanks for all your help and suggestions. 

73, 

Paul


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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[Monty Shultes]

If all responses of "read the manual page XX" or "check the reflector archives" 
were posted, the traffic level would make the reflector much less useful.  I 
even regret posting this just to avoid another comment.

Monty K2DLJ

On Jun 4, 2012, at 1:51 PM, Bill wrote:

> Simple:  Two responses to my post here and five others in my mailbox.
> 
> Thanks for asking,
> 
> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[KQ8M]

That's because of the default reply of the list.

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Simple:  Two responses to my post here and five others in my mailbox.

Thanks for asking,

Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3-KPA500] SWR jumps up with 5 second key down

[Fred Jensen]

On 6/4/2012 10:00 AM, ai6ii wrote:
> I have installed a new antenna and have strange changing swr. When testing
> with RigExperts meter I find good resonance at say 15m (21.200). With the K3
> at 100 watts reading is 1 bar on K3 meter and 1.0 on KPA500 (STBY). When I
> bring the amp online and drive it at 200 watts, all is still good even with
> a 15 second key down period. Driving the KPA500 to 275 watts, still okay
> with key down, although the KPA500 meter now shows 1.1. BUT when I increase
> the drive a little more (300 watts) the swr jumps up to 2.5+ and the KPA500
> shows REFL HI and drops into STBY.
>
> And here is the kicker...NOT ALL THE TIME!
>
> So I think it has to be in the coax. But the 75feet of RG213 is brand new
> premade from Cable Xperts with the connectors.

I strongly doubt that.  Loose connector maybe, but you've probably 
already checked that.  Some suggestions:

1.  Does it do it with dummy load on output of KPA500?

2.  Does it do it with dummy load on far end of coax in place of antenna 
[not always easy to do]?

3.  Does it do it with another antenna [if you have one for 15]?

4.  Does it do it on any other bands?

5.  You said it is one of Tom's multiband yagi's.  Did you tighten 
everything down when you assembled it?  If I were to bet on it, I'd bet 
this is your problem.

6.  Is there a balun?  If so, what happens to your TV when this high SWR 
occurs?   All transformer cores will saturate at some power level, the 
flux in them just cannot increase anymore, all the little magnet-lets 
are already aligned.  The power at which this happens is sensitive to 
the temperature, and when it does, the balun become non-linear and you 
radiate all sorts of trash.  However, if I were to bet, I'd bet this is 
*not* your problem.

I haven't read the rest of the email list yet and I'll bet there are a 
lot of suggestions for you there by this time.  I'd have typically taken 
mine off-list to you and let you publish the resolution once, however 
apparently, that is poor list etiquette.  I'd like to know what the 
resolution is, I occasionally have a sort of similar problem on an old 
antenna that's been up for maybe 15 years.

73,

Fred K6DGW
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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[David Gilbert]

Some people are more reserved than others and prefer private exchanges 
to public broadcasts.  Just ask yourself how many people are willing to 
stand up at a public gathering and voice their opinion.  It's a matter 
of human nature, not "openness on the reflector".  You're making it 
sound like some ulterior motive when it isn't.

Besides, as someone else just pointed out it's entirely possible for 
somebody to hit the "Reply" button on their email client instead of the 
"Reply List" button without really paying attention.  It's a very common 
happening.

But most importantly, I've been a K3 owner for over three years (a K1 
owner for much longer than that) and I can't think of ANY problem (some 
of which I have complained about) with the rig that hasn't received full 
and repeated discussion on this reflector from both users and Elecraft. 
   I honestly haven't a clue what you're talking about.   If you're so 
focused on "full disclosure", how about offering a few specifics so we 
know what you're talking about instead of making such vague allegations.

By the way, this normally would have been a private reply but since you 
asked ...

Dave   AB7E



On 6/4/2012 10:51 AM, Bill wrote:
> Simple:  Two responses to my post here and five others in my mailbox.
>
> Thanks for asking,
>
> Bill W2BLC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + P3 + Microkeyer

[Arthur Burke]

If I remember correctly, microHAM specifically advises *against* connecting
like that and doing updates through the microHAM device. It would seem
prudent to disconnect your microHAM device and directly connect your P3/K3
combination and effect updates in that manner.

Art - N4PJ



On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Bob - W6OPO  wrote:

> Plug the USB cable that is connected to the MicroHam Keyer into the PC.  Be
> sure you have installed and run Router defining the necessary port numbers
> for all the features in the microKeyer you intend to use.
>
> The big cable that you plugged into the back of the microKeyer with all the
> seperate leads you hooked up to the K3 - one of which is the serial
> interface (RS232).  Now the communication between the PC and K3 is via the
> microKeyer.  Works fine but for one task...FW updates.
>
> Be sure to note in the manual about not trying to do any firmware updates
> in
> this configuration.  You MUST plug the K3 directly into the PC for these
> updates.  Believe me, as the manual says, it does NOT work with the
> microKeyer in the middle.
>
> All information is pretty clear in the MicroHam manual.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob - W6OPO
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Arthur Burke]

Agree all the way. For daily logging and superb tracking (there are gobs of
awards that can be tracked and user-defined fields if you need even more),
I also have used DXLabs for quite some time (five or six years). There *is*
somewhat of a learning curve. The author of the suite (who also co-hosts an
excellent forum) recommends learning a specific piece, then learning
another one and so forth.

If you're only interested in single-op situations, N1MM is also free and is
pretty easy to set up. If you want to get involved in multi-rig or multi-op
situations, it can be somewhat more complex. In either case, the N1MM forum
has participation from the authors and is very, very well supported.

Art - N4PJ



On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Kevin  wrote:

> Depends what you want in a logging application.
> If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig
> control it's just fine.
>
> If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration,
> flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting,
> integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc,
> etc, etc... Look elsewhere.
>
> I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and
> N1MM, also free, for contesting.
> Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are
> numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your
> computer (a little buggy).
> Still others like Logger32.
>
> If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it.
>
>
> On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
> > I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across
> > these comments.
> > I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests
> > and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties.
> >
> > Anyone have anything good to say about the software?  Alternatives with
> > the same capabilities?
> >
> > 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
>
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[Elecraft] KX1 ant. and cntpse. ques.

[John Flynn]

Good Day Everyone,

I was noodling around some KX1 topics on Nabble and found this posting by
W2XS from 7/08:

"For 40, 30, and 20 meters, I use a 42-foot wire with a large nut on the
end.  The wire is thrown over a tree branch.  A Pomona BNC-to-Bindng Posts
adaptor is used.  Three counterpoise wires cut to one quarter wave for each
band (approx. 33', 23', and 16.5') are connected to the ground binding
post."

My question is whether *all three* counterpoises are attached to the
binding post *at once*, or is he talking about changing the out the
counterpoise as he changes bands? I've been using a one-size-fits-all
counterpoise and was wondering if I've missed something basic and very
useful.

Thx es 73

John KK4BOB

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ant. and cntpse. ques.

[KQ8M]

You can connect all at once. The ones for the band you are on will be resonant 
where the others will not.

Tim Herrick, KQ8M
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[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Flynn
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:11 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] KX1 ant. and cntpse. ques.

Good Day Everyone,

I was noodling around some KX1 topics on Nabble and found this posting by
W2XS from 7/08:

"For 40, 30, and 20 meters, I use a 42-foot wire with a large nut on the
end.  The wire is thrown over a tree branch.  A Pomona BNC-to-Bindng Posts
adaptor is used.  Three counterpoise wires cut to one quarter wave for each
band (approx. 33', 23', and 16.5') are connected to the ground binding
post."

My question is whether *all three* counterpoises are attached to the
binding post *at once*, or is he talking about changing the out the
counterpoise as he changes bands? I've been using a one-size-fits-all
counterpoise and was wondering if I've missed something basic and very
useful.

Thx es 73

John KK4BOB

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USA
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[Elecraft] Listening on k3 subreceiver while transmitting

[Gary Slagel]

Hi All,

I'm looking at getting the subreceiver for my k3.  I'm trying to figure out if 
I can listen on the subreceiver while transmitting. For instance, while 
contesting, this would let me look for multipliers on the subreceiver while 
running with the main receiver.  Is this possible?

Thanks,

Gary Slagel
KT0A
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[Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[Ron Gould]

I am looking for suggestions for various ham radio software that works good 
with a Mac and success/failures others may have had.  I do not want to run the 
Mac in windows/corporate mode, sorry no more registry or blue screens of death 
for me.  I am seeking advise from other K3 owners who have tried programs like 
Cocomodem for digital modes both directly through K3 or various usb hardware 
interfaces such as Microham, Rigblaster, Tigertonics etc and if the expense and 
effort is worthwhile or just connecting the K3 to Mac?  I do not need CW keying 
as I have a Begali CW machine for that, which works great.  This is a bit off 
topic so email off list is fine unless you feel your responses would be of 
value to others.  Thanks
73's  Ron
kd...@comcast.net


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Re: [Elecraft] Listening on k3 subreceiver while transmitting

[N5GE]

Yes, you can, but you will only be able to hear the other stations if you are on
CW using QSK.  It won't work on phone, because both RX's will mute when the rig
is keyed in the voice and digital modes.

73,
Tom
Amateur Radio Operator N5GE
ARRL Lifetime Member
QCWA Lifetime Member

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 13:40:27 -0700 (PDT), Gary Slagel  wrote:

>Hi All,
>
>I'm looking at getting the subreceiver for my k3.  I'm trying to figure out if 
>I can listen on the subreceiver while transmitting. For instance, while 
>contesting, this would let me look for multipliers on the subreceiver while 
>running with the main receiver.  Is this possible?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Gary Slagel
>KT0A
[snip]

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[Greg]

Bill Myers, K1GQ use to have a program called Skookum Logger for 
contesting that was quite good.  I don't know if he is still maintaining 
it or not.

73
Greg


On 6/4/2012 2:02 PM, Ron Gould wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions for various ham radio software that works good 
> with a Mac and success/failures others may have had.  I do not want to run 
> the Mac in windows/corporate mode, sorry no more registry or blue screens of 
> death for me.  I am seeking advise from other K3 owners who have tried 
> programs like Cocomodem for digital modes both directly through K3 or various 
> usb hardware interfaces such as Microham, Rigblaster, Tigertonics etc and if 
> the expense and effort is worthwhile or just connecting the K3 to Mac?  I do 
> not need CW keying as I have a Begali CW machine for that, which works great. 
>  This is a bit off topic so email off list is fine unless you feel your 
> responses would be of value to others.  Thanks
> 73's  Ron
> kd...@comcast.net
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[McWilliams F. Barry]

Ron, CocoModem works great.  There's no need for an external sound card device; 
 I have used an external USB sound card, iMic, which works no better nor worse 
than the iMac built-in sound card.

Also, see http://machamradio.com/, which has links to a number of other Mac ham 
radio applications.

Barry, K8LEF
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Re: [Elecraft] Listening on k3 subreceiver while transmitting

[Mark n2qt]

The possibility of duplex operation comes up from time to time, dating
back  to Wayne's email in > 2009 (copied below) indicating it 'could be
possible' on different bands > using the sub-rx.  The last update (also
below, from 2/12) was that there was of yet no progress.  Maybe with
the KAT500, KX3 releases the Elecraft guys may be looking for something
different to work on and pick this???

This is also of interest to the satellite guys too of course.

There were some independent > measurements of isolation that were
copied to the reflector that seemed to show the isolation may be robust
enough to hold out hope.

> Mark n2qt

>
> -Original Message- 
> From: Wayne Burdick
> Sent: Friday, October 16, 2009 10:32 AM
> To: Bill W4ZV
> Cc: elecraft@...
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3: SO2R-in-a-box
>
> It may be possible to do full duplex with the sub receiver on a
> different band and antenna from main, since it's very well-shielded.
> I'll give this a try. Some firmware changes will be required.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
>
> From: Gary Surrency
> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2012 12:46 PM
> To: Mark n2qt
> Subject: N2QT Re: k3 subrx
>
> Hi Mark,
>
> Sorry. Nothing more has been done on that. Wayne is deep into KX3
> development.
>
> --
> 73, Gary AB7MY
>
>
>
>
>

-Original Message- 
From: Gary Slagel
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 4:40 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Elecraft] Listening on k3 subreceiver while transmitting

Hi All,

I'm looking at getting the subreceiver for my k3.  I'm trying to figure out 
if I can listen on the subreceiver while transmitting. For instance, while 
contesting, this would let me look for multipliers on the subreceiver while 
running with the main receiver.  Is this possible?

Thanks,

Gary Slagel
KT0A
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[W4ATK]

I would not overlook the Navigator interface for use with the K3. In my opinion 
it is a bit more user friendly than some of the other interfaces and with six 
USB/Serial ports you will be done with that problem (CAT, PTT, WKey, FSK, An 
auxiliary RS232 port) and one of the quietest USB Codecs for those sound card 
apps I have ever seen. That being said i run MacLogger DX as a logger program, 
Fldigi for my PSK31, RTTY etc, Flwkey for CW, Flrig for station control. I use 
CrossOver and run JT65-HF and other ".exe"s I cannot do without. You will love 
coin' it with a Mac.

Jim, W4ATK
On Jun 4, 2012, at 4:02 PM, Ron Gould wrote:

> I am looking for suggestions for various ham radio software that works good 
> with a Mac and success/failures others may have had.  I do not want to run 
> the Mac in windows/corporate mode, sorry no more registry or blue screens of 
> death for me.  I am seeking advise from other K3 owners who have tried 
> programs like Cocomodem for digital modes both directly through K3 or various 
> usb hardware interfaces such as Microham, Rigblaster, Tigertonics etc and if 
> the expense and effort is worthwhile or just connecting the K3 to Mac?  I do 
> not need CW keying as I have a Begali CW machine for that, which works great. 
>  This is a bit off topic so email off list is fine unless you feel your 
> responses would be of value to others.  Thanks
> 73's  Ron
> kd...@comcast.net
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[Bill Frantz]

On 6/4/12 at 14:02, kd...@comcast.net (Ron Gould) wrote:

>I am looking for suggestions for various ham radio software 
>that works good with a Mac and success/failures others may have 
>had.  I do not want to run the Mac in windows/corporate mode, 
>sorry no more registry or blue screens of death for me.  I am 
>seeking advise from other K3 owners who have tried programs 
>like Cocomodem for digital modes both directly through K3 or 
>various usb hardware interfaces such as Microham, Rigblaster, 
>Tigertonics etc and if the expense and effort is worthwhile or 
>just connecting the K3 to Mac?  I do not need CW keying as I 
>have a Begali CW machine for that, which works great.  This is 
>a bit off topic so email off list is fine unless you feel your 
>responses would be of value to others.  Thanks
>73's  Ron
>kd...@comcast.net

Ron -

I use RUMLog and cocoaModem on my Mac. RUMLog can use the RS-232 
interface to read the frequency from the K3. cocoaModem has been 
a workhorse for my on PSK-31 (90% of my operating time after FM 
repeater & SSB.)

My general PSK operating mode is to set the K3 to the base 
frequency for the PSK sub-band and lock the VFO (hold LOCK). 
When I start a QSO, I narrow the bandwidth of the radio to 
150-250 Hz using the Lo and Hi knobs. When I end the QSO, I have 
a macro to open the bandwidth to 2.3 KHz to fill my 2 KHz 
waterfall. I use the RF gain knob to control over-driving the 
Signalink interface. I use a Signalink because I have a MacBook 
Pro which can only do audio one way at a time.

Cheers - Bill, AE6JV

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - K3 Comparison Question

[Gary D Krause]

Hi Paul,

I own the K2 and K3.  Like you, I'm not a contester.  I actually prefer the 
sound of the K2 on CW.  To me it sounds warmer and smoother.  The tone of the 
K3 isn't bad and if I didn't have a K2 to compare it to, I probably wouldn't 
notice.  The K3 sounds a little rough or raspy to me as compared with my K2.

Gary, N7HTS


On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT)
  Paul Clay  wrote:
> Could someone owning both the K2 and K3 comment on the respective tone 
>quality of received CW signals.  When using my K2, I often find myself 
>marveling at the high quality of the received signals; the CW has a melodious 
>quality that's a please to listen to for hours on end - the signals sound 
>like someone's sitting at high quality piano tapping out code, very very 
>pleasing to the ear.  Does/can the SDR K3 sound as good?  I can't tell from 
>listening to Youtube videos I've checked out, where people are fixated on 
>demonstrating the adjacent signal rejection qualities of the K3 (the feature 
>most often, and justifiably according to all the articles and posts I've 
>read, touted for the K3).  Is the tonal quality I love in my K2 a function of 
>it being an analog receiver, something I'll have to forgo to obtain the 
>better selectivity of the K3, or is the difference I appear to notice just a 
>function/artifact of the Youtube videos I've been watching?
> 
> Thanks,
> Paul, N6LQ
> 
> Not trolling for a flame here; it's just I'm not a contester and am not 
>really interested in giving up any of the listenability and other features 
>that make my K2 so much fun to use just to get the ability to reject strong 
>adjacent signals;  I'd like to be able to have all of the superior 
>selectivity and noise reduction features of the K3 without having to give up 
>any of the great qualities of my K2, and need to get a warm and fuzzy on this 
>point before making the considerable investment in a K3.  Again, thanks in 
>advance for any helpful observations you can offer!
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT500

[Howard Stephenson]

We hope to get the e-mail conformations of the KAT500 phone orders out 
within the next 2 weeks.
The office staff has been very busy processing orders.
We apologize for the delay.

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[Elecraft] K2 hook-up to an ALS-600 amp

[TI2/NA7U]

If anyone has used an ALS-600 with their K2 I'd like to hear any tips you may
have. 

I have a K2 with the PA/ATU outboard in separate enclosure that I want to
use to drive the amp. Is there nothing more to do than to install a cable
from the K2/100 PA KEY OUT to the ALS-600's RELAY jack (and RF OUT to RF IN,
of course)? I've read that at least with the K3 hooking up ALC is not needed
(of course, I have to take care not to use too much drive from the K2). 

I have parts on order for the AD5X QSK mod, but they probably won't be here
for quite a while. What would you recommend that I set the QSK delay to in
the K2 to avoid switching while hot? I don't mind giving up fast QSK for the
time being. 

tnx es 73,

Casey, TI2/NA7U
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 mac software and digital interfaces

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

If you're using a Mac, look at MacLoggerDX, Aether or RUMLog for
logging and cocoaModem for digital modes.  That suite of software
(cocoaModem works well with either MLDX or RUMLog) functions quite
well with nothing more than an iMic sound card (so Operating system
sounds do not reach the radio) and a basic USB to serial converter.

If you want everything in one box, look at microHAM USB Interface III
(which works as standard USB sound card and serial converter under
OS-X).  While other interfaces provide additional capabilities, the
USB III provides everything needed for the vast majority of Mac
users.

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 6/4/2012 5:02 PM, Ron Gould wrote:
> I am looking for suggestions for various ham radio software that
> works
good with a Mac and success/failures others may have had. I do not want
to run the Mac in windows/corporate mode, sorry no more registry or blue
screens of death for me. I am seeking advise from other K3 owners who
have tried programs like Cocomodem for digital modes both directly
through K3 or various usb hardware interfaces such as Microham,
Rigblaster, Tigertonics etc and if the expense and effort is worthwhile
or just connecting the K3 to Mac? I do not need CW keying as I have a
Begali CW machine for that, which works great. This is a bit off topic
so email off list is fine unless you feel your responses would be of
value to others. Thanks
> 73's  Ron
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 hook-up to an ALS-600 amp

[Don Wilhelm]

Casey,

Changing the T-R delay in the K2 will not eliminate hot switching.  The 
time between the KeyOut going low and the onset of RF is close to 8 ms. 
and is not adjustable.

So, yes, you will need that AD5X mod.

What the T-R delay in the K2 menu does is delay the transition from 
transmit to receive.  That can be used to prevent amplifier relay 
clacking on CW, but you will not have full QSK.

I would suggest you activate the amplifier relay with a foot switch (or 
other manual switch) in the meantime.  The amp relay should connect the 
K2 directly to the antenna if you forget the foot switch, so no harm 
should come from operation like that.

73,
Don W3FPR


On 6/4/2012 5:40 PM, TI2/NA7U wrote:
> If anyone has used an ALS-600 with their K2 I'd like to hear any tips you may
> have.
>
> I have a K2 with the PA/ATU outboard in separate enclosure that I want to
> use to drive the amp. Is there nothing more to do than to install a cable
> from the K2/100 PA KEY OUT to the ALS-600's RELAY jack (and RF OUT to RF IN,
> of course)? I've read that at least with the K3 hooking up ALC is not needed
> (of course, I have to take care not to use too much drive from the K2).
>
> I have parts on order for the AD5X QSK mod, but they probably won't be here
> for quite a while. What would you recommend that I set the QSK delay to in
> the K2 to avoid switching while hot? I don't mind giving up fast QSK for the
> time being.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[vk4tux]

I had posted this previous before Nates post;

"Paul, Sound like a permissions problem, sudo chmod 777 the device and 
try again.
Or, join a group with permissions, eg: dialout

run (example , use your ttyUSBx id)

[root@fedora16desk ~]# ls -l /dev/ttyUSB0
crw-rw 1 root dialout 188, 0 Jun  4 19:49 /dev/ttyUSB0
[root@fedora16desk ~]#

Above will show the group owner i.e dialout.

Adrian ... vk4tux"

I received that post which was sent to elecraft@mailman.qth.net, however I
dont see here it it in the nabble list, as I was trying to work out why you
did not see it.

oh well.



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Re: [Elecraft] K2 hook-up to an ALS-600 amp

[TI2/NA7U]

Thanks Don. It so happens I have a foot switch so I will use that while
waiting the AD5X stuff. 

73,

Casey, TI2/NA7U

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 utility and Lbuntu 12.04

[G4LNA]

Hi Adrian,

The internet world is a strange and wonderful place at times, all designed
to frustrate us. 

I simply went to the GUI in Manage Users and Groups and added it there, I've
done that dozens of times, I just forgot, it must be an age thing.

Still, hopefully this thread might help someone else if they have the same
memory affliction I seem to be suffering at the moment :)

Paul.

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Re: [Elecraft] Openness on the reflector

[Ron D'Eau Claire]

I have always looked at a post on this reflector as a comment made among a
group of friendly, polite Hams just as one might make at a Ham club meeting.


One of the big advantages of posting on the reflector is similar to
advantage of discussing a subject with a bunch of like-minded Hams at a club
meeting: learning. Listening to others responses, being corrected politely
and clearly when we make mistakes, and hashing out many opinions on issues
is a huge opportunity to gain insights and to learn things. 

People are not always polite on the reflector, just as they aren't in
person. We all have bad days. We all sometimes say something we later
realize wasn't "heard" in the right way. And there are a few - very, very
few IMX - who are just impolite people, Hi! But, IMX, some of the most
memorable and pleasurable acquaintances I've had in my lifetime were with
people who were downright rude when we first met. 

I think that experiencing someone's "rough" side from time to time is a very
small price to pay to gather the community of thought, information and
experiences about an issue that public exchange provides. 

73, 

Ron AC7AC

-Original Message-


Some people are more reserved than others and prefer private exchanges to
public broadcasts.  Just ask yourself how many people are willing to stand
up at a public gathering and voice their opinion.  It's a matter of human
nature, not "openness on the reflector".  You're making it sound like some
ulterior motive when it isn't.

Besides, as someone else just pointed out it's entirely possible for
somebody to hit the "Reply" button on their email client instead of the
"Reply List" button without really paying attention.  It's a very common
happening.

But most importantly, I've been a K3 owner for over three years (a K1 owner
for much longer than that) and I can't think of ANY problem (some of which I
have complained about) with the rig that hasn't received full and repeated
discussion on this reflector from both users and Elecraft. 
   I honestly haven't a clue what you're talking about.   If you're so 
focused on "full disclosure", how about offering a few specifics so we know
what you're talking about instead of making such vague allegations.

By the way, this normally would have been a private reply but since you
asked ...

Dave   AB7E


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[Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[ke9uw]

I just finished the KX1 kit and without the tuner, power output into a 50 ohm
load is about 10W on 80M, and 4W on 40M, 30M, and 20M using a Bird meter,
50W slug.
However the ATU which seems to work well in all testing, all the relays
click, etc., in TUNE the power starts out at a reading of about 3 watts (40,
30, 20...a watt higher on 80) and falls off in about 2 to 3 seconds to about
.5 watts. The Bird meter shows exactly the same power fall off. 
Also the SWR reading in all cases reads 1.0 using the dummy load. So it
seems like something is heating up (don't feel any heat anywhere) and the
power falls off...but it still always reads an SWR of 1.0 when I go out of
TUNE.
When I remove the ATU and install the jumper the power is steady for all
bands (just higher on 80M).

When I activate L0 thru L3 and C1 thru C3, I get a significant change
(normal) in SWR cycling thru L0 thru L3, but cycling thru C1 thru C3, the
SWR seems to just change from 2.0 to 2.1 to 2.0

Not sure what to look at...

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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Eric Swartz - WA6HHQ, Elecraft]

Let's end this thread for now in the interest of reducing list email 
overload other readers.

73,

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On 6/4/2012 12:27 PM, Arthur Burke wrote:
> Agree all the way. For daily logging and superb tracking (there are gobs of
> awards that can be tracked and user-defined fields if you need even more),
> I also have used DXLabs for quite some time (five or six years). There *is*
> somewhat of a learning curve. The author of the suite (who also co-hosts an
> excellent forum) recommends learning a specific piece, then learning
> another one and so forth.
>
> If you're only interested in single-op situations, N1MM is also free and is
> pretty easy to set up. If you want to get involved in multi-rig or multi-op
> situations, it can be somewhat more complex. In either case, the N1MM forum
> has participation from the authors and is very, very well supported.
>
> Art - N4PJ
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Kevin  wrote:
>
>> Depends what you want in a logging application.
>> If you're just interested in electronic logging and don't want rig
>> control it's just fine.
>>
>> If you want rig control, real time spotting network integration,
>> flexible award handling and tracking including log database sorting,
>> integration of LoTW and eQSL, ADIF and Cabrillo import and export, etc,
>> etc, etc... Look elsewhere.
>>
>> I use the DX Lab Suite. It's free (I'm cheap) for general logging and
>> N1MM, also free, for contesting.
>> Others will sing the praises of Ham Radio Deluxe but it's free days are
>> numbered if not over and it sometimes sucks the very life out of your
>> computer (a little buggy).
>> Still others like Logger32.
>>
>> If DX Lab wasn't free I'd pay for it.
>>
>>
>> On 06/03/2012 07:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
>>> I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across
>>> these comments.
>>> I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests
>>> and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties.
>>>
>>> Anyone have anything good to say about the software?  Alternatives with
>>> the same capabilities?
>>>
>>> 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
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Re: [Elecraft] K2 - K3 Comparison Question

[Thomas Horsten]

Hi Gary,

Those observations, are those with headset/built in speaker/external
speakers? And with the new K3 firmware?

73, Thomas M0TRN

On 4 June 2012 22:35, Gary D Krause  wrote:

> Hi Paul,
>
> I own the K2 and K3.  Like you, I'm not a contester.  I actually prefer the
> sound of the K2 on CW.  To me it sounds warmer and smoother.  The tone of
> the
> K3 isn't bad and if I didn't have a K2 to compare it to, I probably
> wouldn't
> notice.  The K3 sounds a little rough or raspy to me as compared with my
> K2.
>
> Gary, N7HTS
>
>
> On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 10:17:29 -0700 (PDT)
>  Paul Clay  wrote:
> > Could someone owning both the K2 and K3 comment on the respective tone
> >quality of received CW signals.  When using my K2, I often find myself
> >marveling at the high quality of the received signals; the CW has a
> melodious
> >quality that's a please to listen to for hours on end - the signals sound
> >like someone's sitting at high quality piano tapping out code, very very
> >pleasing to the ear.  Does/can the SDR K3 sound as good?  I can't tell
> from
> >listening to Youtube videos I've checked out, where people are fixated on
> >demonstrating the adjacent signal rejection qualities of the K3 (the
> feature
> >most often, and justifiably according to all the articles and posts I've
> >read, touted for the K3).  Is the tonal quality I love in my K2 a
> function of
> >it being an analog receiver, something I'll have to forgo to obtain the
> >better selectivity of the K3, or is the difference I appear to notice
> just a
> >function/artifact of the Youtube videos I've been watching?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Paul, N6LQ
> >
> > Not trolling for a flame here; it's just I'm not a contester and am not
> >really interested in giving up any of the listenability and other features
> >that make my K2 so much fun to use just to get the ability to reject
> strong
> >adjacent signals;  I'd like to be able to have all of the superior
> >selectivity and noise reduction features of the K3 without having to give
> up
> >any of the great qualities of my K2, and need to get a warm and fuzzy on
> this
> >point before making the considerable investment in a K3.  Again, thanks in
> >advance for any helpful observations you can offer!
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[Jim Lowman]

Thanks to everyone who took the time to post some positive thoughts
on the N3FJP software suite.

I see that I should have added some parameters initially.  I'm a casual 
operator and
contester due to using QRP power levels for the most part, and simple 
antennas.
About the only time that I operate with a group is Field Day, so I can 
find out what
logging software that the group uses in advance and be sure that I know 
how to use
it.

I also don't do spotting - DX or otherwise.  That seemed to be the only 
limitation that
I saw mentioned.

72/73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/3/2012 5:41 PM, Jim Lowman wrote:
> I was just looking over the N3FJP software and am glad that I ran across
> these comments.
> I liked the idea that it would support Field Day, the ARRL VHF contests
> and other major contests, as well as many state QSO parties.
>
> Anyone have anything good to say about the software?  Alternatives with
> the same capabilities?
>
> 72/73 de Jim - AD6CW
>
> On 6/3/2012 9:30 AM, Charles Johnson wrote:
>> I second that opinion. Worst software I actually paid good money for.
>>
>> 73, Charlie, K4ZRJ
>>
>> On Jun 3, 2012, at 12:54 AM, David Gilbert wrote:
>>
>>> Most of those other programs actually work, though.
>>>
>>> Programs like Logger32 (free and well supported) are modular and easily
>>> tailored to be as simple as you want them to be.  And did I mention that
>>> they actually work like they're supposed to?  I was a registered user of
>>> ACLog for a while but got fed up with it's faults and shortcomings, got
>>> tired of N3FJP's excuses for the problems that other programs didn't
>>> have, and abandoned it long ago.  I realize you don't intend to do that,
>>> but in my opinion it's a self inflicted wound.
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Dave   AB7E
>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[ke9uw]

Oh and the ATU is in the CAL (bypass) mode. Of course it is in the TUN mode
for the testing of inserting different L and C elements and noting SWR
changes to see that all the elements are working.

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?

[ae7...@gmail.com]

Well just ordered the KX3 today!

Given my time constraints and the my general needs I think 
that is the best choice for me.

Thanks so much for all the insight and info.
You guys have been VERY helpful and really help me make up
my mind.

Stan AE7UT

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Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?

[ae7...@gmail.com]

Oh BTW.
As I'm sure you all know they said 90-120 days until shipment.

Gives me time to sell enough plasma/blood and donate that kidney.

Stan AE7UT

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Re: [Elecraft] AC Log - Forum

[Jim Lowman]

And your quoting of an entire digest added what value to this list?

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/4/2012 4:15 PM, W0UCE wrote:
> Is there not an AC Log Forum to communicate about such issues versus here on
> Elecraft?
>
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[Elecraft] Selling SO2R gear

[Greg]

I have a YCCC SO2R+ control box for sale with one K3 cable.  $225 
shipped CONUS

Yaesu Quadra amp for $2,800 (pick up only in Oak Harbor, WA)

Tnx
Greg
AB7R
360-320-3436
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[Don Wilhelm]

Chuck,

Look at the Low Pass Filter.
The PA transistor cannot really go to 10 watts output - I suspect the 
relay on the LPF board is not being activated on 80 meters and is 
allowing a low of 2nd and 3rd harmonic energy get through.  A 'scope 
would show that, but for some reason or another, that makes the 80 meter 
output look like 10 watts of power on a wattmeter.

Once you get the Low Pass Filter working correctly on all bands, try the 
KXAT1 again and if the power falls off - I don't think that is a related 
problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 6:43 PM, ke9uw wrote:
> I just finished the KX1 kit and without the tuner, power output into a 50 ohm
> load is about 10W on 80M, and 4W on 40M, 30M, and 20M using a Bird meter,
> 50W slug.
> However the ATU which seems to work well in all testing, all the relays
> click, etc., in TUNE the power starts out at a reading of about 3 watts (40,
> 30, 20...a watt higher on 80) and falls off in about 2 to 3 seconds to about
> .5 watts. The Bird meter shows exactly the same power fall off.
> Also the SWR reading in all cases reads 1.0 using the dummy load. So it
> seems like something is heating up (don't feel any heat anywhere) and the
> power falls off...but it still always reads an SWR of 1.0 when I go out of
> TUNE.
> When I remove the ATU and install the jumper the power is steady for all
> bands (just higher on 80M).
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[hawley, charles j jr]

I bypassed the tuner relays, but makes no difference. I left the one turn link 
in ckt.
I thought maybe maybe the tuner being in place was affecting the drive rf into 
the output xistor,
but it looks like the same rf drive on the scope with the tuner in or out...but 
not the same output rf because the
rf into the tuner does just what the rf does on the output of the 
tuner...drifts down to a smaller level.
Baffled...

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] on 
behalf of ke9uw [c-haw...@illinois.edu]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 6:03 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

Oh and the ATU is in the CAL (bypass) mode. Of course it is in the TUN mode
for the testing of inserting different L and C elements and noting SWR
changes to see that all the elements are working.

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Re: [Elecraft] AC Log - Forum

[KQ8M]

He is just asking if there is another group more appropriate to the discussion. 
No need to jump on him.

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-Original Message-
From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Lowman
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:48 PM
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] AC Log - Forum

And your quoting of an entire digest added what value to this list?

73 de Jim - AD6CW

On 6/4/2012 4:15 PM, W0UCE wrote:
> Is there not an AC Log Forum to communicate about such issues versus here on
> Elecraft?
>
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[Elecraft] Live Video Stream of KX3 Kit Build

[Thomas Campie]

I received notification today that my KX3 is on the way so I wanted to 
alert/remind you that I will be streaming the build of my KX3 LIVE when it 
arrives.  I think it should be Wednesday or Thursday, won't know until the USPS 
site updates.  I'll commence the build at about 20:00z (3 PM central time) and 
proceed until complete.  You will be able to view the build here: 
http://www.ustream.tv/channel/w0ea-s-kx3-kit-build

Of course I'll send an update when I am sure what day and time the stream will 
start.  

I'm going to try to find a way to make it so that you can tell what page of the 
build instructions I am on in case you want to follow along.  If all else fails 
I can just have a running commentary.  There is a mechanism for chat while 
watching the video so I will be able to answer questions that way as well.  I 
am also on Google Talk (tom.cam...@gmail.com) and twitter @w0ea.  

Keep an eye out for an update!  

73, W0EA
TJ

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"Skill transcends power!"

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[Elecraft] KX3 Delivered

[Dave Agsten]

I received KX3-F, serial number 0298 today. I ordered on the 28th at 1644Z. 


I'm posting this to comment on shipping methods for Elecraft products. When I 
ordered my KPA500 I designated UPS Ground as the preferred shipping method. I 
received it 7 days after it was shipped by Elecraft. This time I changed my 
shipping preference to USPS Priority Mail. Elecraft delivered my KX3 to the 
U.S. Postal service on Friday afternoon, West Coast time, June 1st. I received 
the package, in Virginia, today, the 4th. I don't live in a large metro area 
and am somewhat out in the country, serviced by a small Post Office.  I think 
that was great service by the USPS.

I just wanted to let folks know that Priority Mail is a way to receive your 
package a few days sooner than via UPS Ground. (at least when it goes from West 
Coast to the East Coast) It was a few bucks more but no where near the premium 
you pay for "faster" UPS service. 

 
73,
Dave N8AG
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[hawley, charles j jr]

Yes. E was not going low and F not turning on the relay.
The power out on 80M is 4 watts now. The other bands
are around 3.6 to 3.8 watts.
I still have the tuner in reduces the power out on
all bands and drops to less than a watt.
When I push on the LPF board, the power goes down...
and the ATU does that with a relay.
So that's my problem. I'll check why.
Thankyou so much, I would have been going in circles without 
the LPF relay tip.

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: Don Wilhelm [w3...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:44 PM
To: hawley, charles j jr
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

Chuck,

Look at the Low Pass Filter.
The PA transistor cannot really go to 10 watts output - I suspect the
relay on the LPF board is not being activated on 80 meters and is
allowing a low of 2nd and 3rd harmonic energy get through.  A 'scope
would show that, but for some reason or another, that makes the 80 meter
output look like 10 watts of power on a wattmeter.

Once you get the Low Pass Filter working correctly on all bands, try the
KXAT1 again and if the power falls off - I don't think that is a related
problem.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 6:43 PM, ke9uw wrote:
> I just finished the KX1 kit and without the tuner, power output into a 50 ohm
> load is about 10W on 80M, and 4W on 40M, 30M, and 20M using a Bird meter,
> 50W slug.
> However the ATU which seems to work well in all testing, all the relays
> click, etc., in TUNE the power starts out at a reading of about 3 watts (40,
> 30, 20...a watt higher on 80) and falls off in about 2 to 3 seconds to about
> .5 watts. The Bird meter shows exactly the same power fall off.
> Also the SWR reading in all cases reads 1.0 using the dummy load. So it
> seems like something is heating up (don't feel any heat anywhere) and the
> power falls off...but it still always reads an SWR of 1.0 when I go out of
> TUNE.
> When I remove the ATU and install the jumper the power is steady for all
> bands (just higher on 80M).
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[Don Wilhelm]

Chuck,

That is progress, but for the life of me, I cannot think of any way the 
KXAT1 would cause the power to gradually decrease.  It is getting late 
for me today, so I will sleep on it and see if anything pops into my 
head in the morning.

One thought that does occur to me is that there may be a bad solder 
connection somewhere in the KXAT1.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 10:04 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> Yes. E was not going low and F not turning on the relay.
> The power out on 80M is 4 watts now. The other bands
> are around 3.6 to 3.8 watts.
> I still have the tuner in reduces the power out on
> all bands and drops to less than a watt.
> When I push on the LPF board, the power goes down...
> and the ATU does that with a relay.
> So that's my problem. I'll check why.
> Thankyou so much, I would have been going in circles without
> the LPF relay tip.
>
> Chuck, KE9UW
> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224
>
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm [w3...@embarqmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:44 PM
> To: hawley, charles j jr
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...
>
> Chuck,
>
> Look at the Low Pass Filter.
> The PA transistor cannot really go to 10 watts output - I suspect the
> relay on the LPF board is not being activated on 80 meters and is
> allowing a low of 2nd and 3rd harmonic energy get through.  A 'scope
> would show that, but for some reason or another, that makes the 80 meter
> output look like 10 watts of power on a wattmeter.
>
> Once you get the Low Pass Filter working correctly on all bands, try the
> KXAT1 again and if the power falls off - I don't think that is a related
> problem.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/4/2012 6:43 PM, ke9uw wrote:
>> I just finished the KX1 kit and without the tuner, power output into a 50 ohm
>> load is about 10W on 80M, and 4W on 40M, 30M, and 20M using a Bird meter,
>> 50W slug.
>> However the ATU which seems to work well in all testing, all the relays
>> click, etc., in TUNE the power starts out at a reading of about 3 watts (40,
>> 30, 20...a watt higher on 80) and falls off in about 2 to 3 seconds to about
>> .5 watts. The Bird meter shows exactly the same power fall off.
>> Also the SWR reading in all cases reads 1.0 using the dummy load. So it
>> seems like something is heating up (don't feel any heat anywhere) and the
>> power falls off...but it still always reads an SWR of 1.0 when I go out of
>> TUNE.
>> When I remove the ATU and install the jumper the power is steady for all
>> bands (just higher on 80M).
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] [K3] N3FJP rig control settings?

[km5ps]

On 6/4/2012 8:39 AM, John Shadle wrote:
> Hi Terry,
> I have been using N3FJP's AC Log for a while, both with my K2 and now
> my K3. I haven't had any trouble at all with DX spotting and clicking
> on a spot to do a frequency change with either rig. I can take a look
> at my settings if you like.
>
> So, basically, clicking on a spot doesn't work? You're getting the
> wrong mode and even frequency? That's strange...
>
> N3FJP recently updated AC Log and it's a much improved program. It's
> now at version 3.2 (although I have only upgraded to 3.1 so far,
> myself). If you purchased it in the past, you're entitled to a free
> upgrade.
>
> It might be best to try to post your question to the AC Log list, too.
> I've found Scott and the rest of the list members invaluable in
> setting up the software.
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/N3FJP_Software_Users/
>
> 73
> -john W4PAH
> Madison, WI
>
>> If anyone has been successful in finding a way to send DX spot rig command 
>> strings *smoothly* from N3FJP's ACLog to a K3, would you please email me 
>> with the software settings you've used.  I have not been able to get ACLog 
>> to interface well with my K3 (#474) since I bought the rig (the software 
>> worked fine with my FT1000MP).  The software reads the K3 data just fine.  
>> But DX spot clicks seem to go very slowly and the mode, band and frequency 
>> changes seem to be all mixed up.  Scott, N3FJP, told me that Elecraft sends 
>> the commands to the K3 in a "non-standard" format but claims to "generally 
>> support" the Elecraft line. The command string references I have found in 
>> the K3 manual have not been successful, but I don't rule out an error on my 
>> part there.
>>
>> Other than recommending other logging programs can anyone offer an ACLog 
>> command solution. I'm not a contester and have tried all the popular 
>> logging/rig control offerings that many of you use.  Most programs offer WAY 
>> too many features for my needs.  Many thanks.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Terry, W0FM
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Terry-
I have been using ACLog with my k3 for a couple of years now and have no 
problem with it.  When I click on a dx spot it goes right to the freq.  
These are my setting:
com port 1
Baud Rate 38.4
Parity-DTR
Radio Polling rate   500ms
I am using verison 3.0 on ACLog.  I did not know they had an upgrade 
out.  But will go and download it soon.
Hope this helps.

John-KM5PS
k3 #3906

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Re: [Elecraft] KX3 Cheat sheets

[Bob Cunnings]

Well, there is this:

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/KX3reference2.pdf

on the Elecraft website.

Bob NW8L

>Has anyone updated / created a cheat sheet for the KX3 yet ??
>
>If so, could you forward a copy to me please…
>
>Thanks
>Niel
>WA7SSA
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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[hawley, charles j jr]

Fixed.
It was a solder connection on the low pass filter board. When the ATU
pushed a bit on the LPF board, the power took a dip.
I re-soldered the two 2-3 junctions  on the LPF.
The power is constant now, about 3.6 or so on 7 thru 14
and about 4.1 on 80M with the tuner in or out.
It was all in the LPF board...both issues. I was really
careful with that part...but not careful enough :)
Thanks again. 

Chuck, KE9UW
aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224


From: Don Wilhelm [w3...@embarqmail.com]
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 9:19 PM
To: hawley, charles j jr
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

Chuck,

That is progress, but for the life of me, I cannot think of any way the
KXAT1 would cause the power to gradually decrease.  It is getting late
for me today, so I will sleep on it and see if anything pops into my
head in the morning.

One thought that does occur to me is that there may be a bad solder
connection somewhere in the KXAT1.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 10:04 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> Yes. E was not going low and F not turning on the relay.
> The power out on 80M is 4 watts now. The other bands
> are around 3.6 to 3.8 watts.
> I still have the tuner in reduces the power out on
> all bands and drops to less than a watt.
> When I push on the LPF board, the power goes down...
> and the ATU does that with a relay.
> So that's my problem. I'll check why.
> Thankyou so much, I would have been going in circles without
> the LPF relay tip.
>
> Chuck, KE9UW
> aka Jack, BMW Motorcycles BMWMOA #224
>
> 
> From: Don Wilhelm [w3...@embarqmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 7:44 PM
> To: hawley, charles j jr
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...
>
> Chuck,
>
> Look at the Low Pass Filter.
> The PA transistor cannot really go to 10 watts output - I suspect the
> relay on the LPF board is not being activated on 80 meters and is
> allowing a low of 2nd and 3rd harmonic energy get through.  A 'scope
> would show that, but for some reason or another, that makes the 80 meter
> output look like 10 watts of power on a wattmeter.
>
> Once you get the Low Pass Filter working correctly on all bands, try the
> KXAT1 again and if the power falls off - I don't think that is a related
> problem.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/4/2012 6:43 PM, ke9uw wrote:
>> I just finished the KX1 kit and without the tuner, power output into a 50 ohm
>> load is about 10W on 80M, and 4W on 40M, 30M, and 20M using a Bird meter,
>> 50W slug.
>> However the ATU which seems to work well in all testing, all the relays
>> click, etc., in TUNE the power starts out at a reading of about 3 watts (40,
>> 30, 20...a watt higher on 80) and falls off in about 2 to 3 seconds to about
>> .5 watts. The Bird meter shows exactly the same power fall off.
>> Also the SWR reading in all cases reads 1.0 using the dummy load. So it
>> seems like something is heating up (don't feel any heat anywhere) and the
>> power falls off...but it still always reads an SWR of 1.0 when I go out of
>> TUNE.
>> When I remove the ATU and install the jumper the power is steady for all
>> bands (just higher on 80M).
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + P3 + Microkeyer

[Bob Lanning]

Art -
 
You have it right.  
 
In normal use the microHAM unit is in-between the PC and the K3 or if
there is a P3 it is PC - P3 - K3.  BUT when having to do FW update to
the P3 or K3 or screen capture off the P3 the PC needs to be connected
directly to the P3 or K3.
 
73,
 
Bob - W6OPO


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From: Arthur Burke [mailto:aburk...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 04, 2012 12:24 PM
To: Bob - W6OPO
Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 + P3 + Microkeyer


If I remember correctly, microHAM specifically advises *against*
connecting like that and doing updates through the microHAM device. It
would seem prudent to disconnect your microHAM device and directly
connect your P3/K3 combination and effect updates in that manner.
 
Art - N4PJ
 


On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:27 AM, Bob - W6OPO 
wrote:


Plug the USB cable that is connected to the MicroHam Keyer into the PC.
Be
sure you have installed and run Router defining the necessary port
numbers
for all the features in the microKeyer you intend to use.

The big cable that you plugged into the back of the microKeyer with all
the
seperate leads you hooked up to the K3 - one of which is the serial
interface (RS232).  Now the communication between the PC and K3 is via
the
microKeyer.  Works fine but for one task...FW updates.

Be sure to note in the manual about not trying to do any firmware
updates in
this configuration.  You MUST plug the K3 directly into the PC for these
updates.  Believe me, as the manual says, it does NOT work with the
microKeyer in the middle.

All information is pretty clear in the MicroHam manual.

73,

Bob - W6OPO

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Re: [Elecraft] KX1 ATU causes power to drop off...

[Don Wilhelm]

Chuck,

That LPF is the most common downfall of the KXB3080 installation.  It is 
small and quite compact, and does require a lot of careful work.

I am glad to hear your KX1 is now working OK.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 10:48 PM, hawley, charles j jr wrote:
> Fixed.
> It was a solder connection on the low pass filter board. When the ATU
> pushed a bit on the LPF board, the power took a dip.
> I re-soldered the two 2-3 junctions  on the LPF.
> The power is constant now, about 3.6 or so on 7 thru 14
> and about 4.1 on 80M with the tuner in or out.
> It was all in the LPF board...both issues. I was really
> careful with that part...but not careful enough :)
> Thanks again.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + P3 + Microkeyer

[Don Wilhelm]

An RS-232 A/B switch can make that changeover easy - the common of the 
A/B switch connects to the K3 (or P3) and one side connects to the 
nicroHam while the other side connects directly to a serial port (or USB 
to serial adapter).  A simple "flip of the switch" changes it from 
normal configuration to Firmware download mode.

73,
Don W3FPR

On 6/4/2012 10:56 PM, Bob Lanning wrote:
> Art -
>
> You have it right.
>
> In normal use the microHAM unit is in-between the PC and the K3 or if
> there is a P3 it is PC - P3 - K3.  BUT when having to do FW update to
> the P3 or K3 or screen capture off the P3 the PC needs to be connected
> directly to the P3 or K3.
>
> 73,
>
> Bob - W6OPO
>
>
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[Elecraft] KAT500-F received invoice

[John KLim]

Hi All,

I just got my KAT500-F invoice, estimating 75 +/- days to go. I will be
counting them all.

73 ES CUL DE N3KHK


John R. Klim II
ARRL LM, AMSAT LM
10-10: 68135
30MDG: 1820
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] KX3 Cheat sheets

[Matt Maguire]

Hi Niel,

I'm curious, what sort of information would you expect to see on a cheat sheet 
for the KX3?

I have to say, I find the KX3 user interface very well designed, intuitive and 
easy to use (once you understand the whole tap vs hold philosophy).

I can certainly see the sense in a cheat sheet for some of the other 
menu-driven radios on the market, where it is more difficult to remember 
exactly which menu you need to dive into in order to adjust something.

73, Matt VK2ACL.

On 05/06/2012, at 12:25 AM, Niel Skousen wrote:

> Has anyone updated / created a cheat sheet for the KX3 yet ??
> 
> If so, could you forward a copy to me please…
> 
> Thanks
> Niel
> WA7SSA
> 
> On Jun 3, 2012, at 3:52 PM, Julie McGrew wrote:
> 
>> Hello ...
>> 
>> Would you be so kind as to forward me a copy of the cheat sheets?  I'm
>> happily in the process of building the KX1.
>> 
>> Many thanks &73's
>> julie, AC0WN
>> 
>> julie(at)techproductions.com
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[Elecraft] K3 failure

[Alan Grant]

I don't know what I have done to my K3, no 5779 I was trying to update the
Beta 4.51 and the computer just filled through all the attempts to connect
on different ports at different baud rates, and could not connect, next
thing I know, the transmit light just keeps on flashing the dial lights
went out and I can see mcu ld faintly I cannot turn the 

K3 off with its power switch I think I nearly had a heart attack. I have
attempted to find that fault in the manual, and cannot seem to find an
error that matches my fault.

HELP PLEASE, what should I do, or where do I look, has anyone seen this
fault before

Desperately seeking assistance.

Alan Grant VK4KO

I need my K3 back 

 

 

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Re: [Elecraft] AC Log - Forum

[Scott Manthe]

So, you're posting an extraneous post to complain about extraneous 
posts? BTW, the discussion of which logging programs work well with the 
K3 seems to be a completely legitimate topic for this list.

73,
Scott, N9AA

On 6/4/12 7:15 PM, W0UCE wrote:
> Is there not an AC Log Forum to communicate about such issues versus here on
> Elecraft?
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 failure

[Wayne Burdick]

Hi Alan,

Sounds like the firmware upgrade didn't take--possibly due to a  
brownout--and has to be retried.

First get out of KX3 Utility and power the PC off/on, in case there's  
an issue with the serial ports.

Next, unplug the K3, wait a few seconds, and plug it back in. If the  
firmware has to be reloaded, you'll see "MCU LD" on VFO B and one LED  
will flash. At this point try running KX3 Utility again; it should  
load the new firmware.

If this doesn't help, send as much detail as you can to k3support.

73,
Wayne
N6KR


On Jun 4, 2012, at 9:02 PM, Alan Grant wrote:

> I don't know what I have done to my K3, no 5779 I was trying to  
> update the
> Beta 4.51 and the computer just filled through all the attempts to  
> connect
> on different ports at different baud rates, and could not connect,  
> next
> thing I know, the transmit light just keeps on flashing the dial  
> lights
> went out and I can see mcu ld faintly I cannot turn the
>
> K3 off with its power switch I think I nearly had a heart attack. I  
> have
> attempted to find that fault in the manual, and cannot seem to find an
> error that matches my fault.
>
> HELP PLEASE, what should I do, or where do I look, has anyone seen  
> this
> fault before
>
> Desperately seeking assistance.
>
> Alan Grant VK4KO
>
> I need my K3 back
>
>
>
>
>
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> were
> inconvenienced
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 + P3 + Microkeyer

[Joe Subich, W4TV]

I do it that way myself ... each K3 (+P3) has an RS-232 A/B switch on
it.  The computer serial port has an A/B/C/D switch that connects to
each of the A/B switches, the programming cable for the XG3 and for
now the LP-100 (but normally my general purpose test port).

73,

... Joe, W4TV


On 6/4/2012 11:09 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> An RS-232 A/B switch can make that changeover easy - the common of the
> A/B switch connects to the K3 (or P3) and one side connects to the
> nicroHam while the other side connects directly to a serial port (or USB
> to serial adapter).  A simple "flip of the switch" changes it from
> normal configuration to Firmware download mode.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 6/4/2012 10:56 PM, Bob Lanning wrote:
>> Art -
>>
>> You have it right.
>>
>> In normal use the microHAM unit is in-between the PC and the K3 or if
>> there is a P3 it is PC - P3 - K3.  BUT when having to do FW update to
>> the P3 or K3 or screen capture off the P3 the PC needs to be connected
>> directly to the P3 or K3.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Bob - W6OPO
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 failure

[vk4tux]

Wayne, why would he not use the K3 utility rather than KX3 utility?
Perhaps you have been working to hard and need some rest :)

cheers

Adrian

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