Re: [Elecraft] Transverter drift

[Dave Fugleberg]

Steve-
which radio and transverter are you using?
In some transverters, the Local Oscillator drifts with temperature -
sometimes a lot.  This is typically more pronounced on the higher bands,
but can be troublesome even on 2m.   I used to have the Elecraft external
transverters (XV144, XV222, XV432), and tamed the drift quite a bit by
adding the optional ovens on the LO crystals on each of them.  Not perfect,
but better.

You mentioned it happens as you transmit, so it very well could be due to
components heating up while transmitting.

Another thing to check is the input voltage to both radio and transverter.
If the voltage is sagging during transmit, you may have similar symptoms.
Make sure your power supply can handle the load, and that all of your DC
wiring is good and has minimal voltage drop.  You might also try without
the amp to see if that additional load on the power supply is making any
difference.

Good luck! let us know how it goes.
73 de W0ZF
I have no experience with the internal transverters on any Elecraft radio.

73 de W0ZF

On Sun, Mar 10, 2024 at 5:14 PM Steve McKee  wrote:

> We have a SSB 2M net on Saturday's and
> I use a Mirage 30w Amp inline for the extra boost. It has the SSB mode
> switch.
> My issue is everyone reports when I transmit my freq keeps climbing in
> where they have to continuously adjust the RIT to understand me.
> Ideas
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Display flashes "thr 4 OFF" intermittently

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks Fred -
When I get time, I might just pull the radio out of the rack and
remove/reset those pins...
Yeah, in the 'olden days'  (mid 80s in my case) I was a bench tech fixing
dumb terminals from airports, among other things..they were connected to
each other in a daisy-chained serial 'party line'.  I could usually tell
how strong the lightning-induced surge was by how many components were
blown and how charred the circuit board was...

73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 1:34 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Much of the K3 functionality as a radio is analog on the main RF board
> [well, except for the DSP of course].  I believe that many [most?] of the
> signals on the Coveted Golden Connector Pins are digital chatter between
> the brains and the other parts of the radio that tell them what to do but
> don't affect the functionality.  i.e. it might go to the wrong band, or
> BAND +/- might affect the mode instead, but all of the radio still works
> fine.  If you are so inclined to do a little bench work, you might try
> removing and reseating those connectors a couple of times ... maybe with a
> light coat of DeOxit.
>
> Good luck.  In the "Olden Days," you could almost always find the problem
> by looking in the corner of the chassis where the small fire had started.😉
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> Dave Fugleberg wrote on 11/8/2023 11:13 AM:
>
> I thought about that, Fred, but my serial number is in the low 8000s. I
> assembled the kit. It came with the gold pins.
> Could still be a bad connection I suppose. I've found at least 4 different
> ways to trigger the behavior, but it doesn't seem to affect any
> functionality.
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 1:04 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
>> Has your K3 received the coveted Golden Connector Pins?  Mine [S/N 642]
>> began doing things like that, especially on the BAND+/- and MODE +/-
>> buttons.  Pressing really hard would sometimes make it work.  The K-POD
>> proved to be a work around, but the new connector pins on a trip to the
>> factory for another problem solved it.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>>
>> Dave Fugleberg wrote on 11/8/2023 9:16 AM:
>>
>> Thanks Keith - I totally missed that in the manual, as it's been a long
>> time since I've used the decode feature. I tried changing the threshold to
>> Auto...now I get the same behavior as before, except when it flashes it
>> says thr Auto.  So it's definitely showing me that menu setting, but I have
>> no idea why.
>> I should mention that the behavior does not occur every time. It happens
>> nearly any time i use the REV button, but maybe only one of of every 4-5
>> band changes will trigger it.  As noted, this happens sometimes when
>> changing bands via CAT, so it's not just from poking the front panel.
>> 73 de W0ZF
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Keith Trinity WE6R  
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> That "thr  4" is from the TEXT DEC  settings.
>> Long press CWT/0 (zero) button to see the setting.
>> I would think it would not do anything if "OFF", but try setting the
>> upper to AUTO or something.
>> There is a ton of info in the manual...
>> Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech
>>
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Display flashes "thr 4 OFF" intermittently

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks Jack. I've never used macros, and none are shown in the K3 utility,
so I don't think that's the issue.  I've identified at least 4 ways to
trigger the strange behavior from the front panel, and one via CAT.
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 1:34 PM Jack Brindle  wrote:

>  the behavior I might expect if a macro was being executed. Is it possible
> that you have one saved, either in the K3 or the computer that is set to
> trigger at the times you noted? Mostly they execute so fast you don’t see
> the activity, but if the K3 is busy it might slow down a ways. Band change
> is one of those times.
>
> 73,
> Jack, W6FB
>
> On Nov 8, 2023, at 1:04 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
>
> Has your K3 received the coveted Golden Connector Pins?  Mine [S/N 642]
> began doing things like that, especially on the BAND+/- and MODE +/-
> buttons.  Pressing really hard would sometimes make it work.  The K-POD
> proved to be a work around, but the new connector pins on a trip to the
> factory for another problem solved it.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> Dave Fugleberg wrote on 11/8/2023 9:16 AM:
>
> Thanks Keith - I totally missed that in the manual, as it's been a long
> time since I've used the decode feature. I tried changing the threshold to
> Auto...now I get the same behavior as before, except when it flashes it
> says thr Auto.  So it's definitely showing me that menu setting, but I have
> no idea why.
> I should mention that the behavior does not occur every time. It happens
> nearly any time i use the REV button, but maybe only one of of every 4-5
> band changes will trigger it.  As noted, this happens sometimes when
> changing bands via CAT, so it's not just from poking the front panel.
> 73 de W0ZF
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Keith Trinity WE6R 
> wrote:
>
> That "thr  4" is from the TEXT DEC  settings.
> Long press CWT/0 (zero) button to see the setting.
> I would think it would not do anything if "OFF", but try setting the
> upper to AUTO or something.
> There is a ton of info in the manual...
> Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Display flashes "thr 4 OFF" intermittently

[Dave Fugleberg]

I thought about that, Fred, but my serial number is in the low 8000s. I
assembled the kit. It came with the gold pins.
Could still be a bad connection I suppose. I've found at least 4 different
ways to trigger the behavior, but it doesn't seem to affect any
functionality.

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 1:04 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Has your K3 received the coveted Golden Connector Pins?  Mine [S/N 642]
> began doing things like that, especially on the BAND+/- and MODE +/-
> buttons.  Pressing really hard would sometimes make it work.  The K-POD
> proved to be a work around, but the new connector pins on a trip to the
> factory for another problem solved it.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> Dave Fugleberg wrote on 11/8/2023 9:16 AM:
>
> Thanks Keith - I totally missed that in the manual, as it's been a long
> time since I've used the decode feature. I tried changing the threshold to
> Auto...now I get the same behavior as before, except when it flashes it
> says thr Auto.  So it's definitely showing me that menu setting, but I have
> no idea why.
> I should mention that the behavior does not occur every time. It happens
> nearly any time i use the REV button, but maybe only one of of every 4-5
> band changes will trigger it.  As noted, this happens sometimes when
> changing bands via CAT, so it's not just from poking the front panel.
> 73 de W0ZF
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Keith Trinity WE6R  
> 
> wrote:
>
>
> That "thr  4" is from the TEXT DEC  settings.
> Long press CWT/0 (zero) button to see the setting.
> I would think it would not do anything if "OFF", but try setting the
> upper to AUTO or something.
> There is a ton of info in the manual...
> Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - Display flashes "thr 4 OFF" intermittently

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks Keith - I totally missed that in the manual, as it's been a long
time since I've used the decode feature. I tried changing the threshold to
Auto...now I get the same behavior as before, except when it flashes it
says thr Auto.  So it's definitely showing me that menu setting, but I have
no idea why.
I should mention that the behavior does not occur every time. It happens
nearly any time i use the REV button, but maybe only one of of every 4-5
band changes will trigger it.  As noted, this happens sometimes when
changing bands via CAT, so it's not just from poking the front panel.
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:50 AM Keith Trinity WE6R 
wrote:

> That "thr  4" is from the TEXT DEC  settings.
> Long press CWT/0 (zero) button to see the setting.
> I would think it would not do anything if "OFF", but try setting the
> upper to AUTO or something.
> There is a ton of info in the manual...
> Keith WE6R K3/K4 Tech
>
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[Elecraft] K3 - Display flashes "thr 4 OFF" intermittently

[Dave Fugleberg]

I've noticed some strange behavior with my K3 lately.  Sometimes the
display will flash twice very quickly and beep twice. I had to take a video
with my phone to see what it says because it happens quickly.  The upper
part of the LCD says "thr4", and the lower part says "OFF" when this
happens.
This seems to be triggered when I do one of these three things:
Change band with the BAND button
Change band via CAT command
Press, then release the REV button.

It doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it's sure annoying.

The only thing i can find in the menus remotely close to this is the AGC
Onset point, (which IS set to 4 on my rig), but that display in the menu
shows 004 on top and AGC THR on the bottom.

Any ideas what causes this? The radio SN is in the low 8000s.

73 de W0ZF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Split Operation

[Dave Fugleberg]

That's what I do, although I don't typically get to step 6 unless I get
lucky OR find where the DX is *actually *listening :)The REV button
comes in handy for that, as does the P3 display.
I obviously didn't buy the second RX - next transceiver I buy will
definitely have that capability...
73 de W0ZF

On Mon, Nov 6, 2023 at 11:58 AM Richard  wrote:

> Thanks to the many helping hands out there this is what seems to work with
> no second receiver:
>
> 1. Lock VFO A on DX’s calling frequency
>
> 2. Tap A>B to copy DX’s frequency to VFO B
>
> 3. Tap DISP to see VFO B frequency below
>
> 4. Hold SPLIT to separate RX and TX
>
> 5. Tune VFO B “five-up” or as DX requests
>
> 6. Make stunning new DX contact
>
> Thanks again one and all.
>
> Cheers!
>
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Re: [Elecraft] A Good Headset For A K3

[Dave Fugleberg]

Eric,
Most any analog (not USB) computer gaming headset will actually work well
on the K3. You specifically mentioned that you want to plug into the front
panel- if so, you will need an adapter for the microphone jack. You can
easily build one, but the ones from Heil will work with any headset with
3.5 mm plugs. Most such computer headsets have electret mic elements, which
will require an adapter that passes the dc bias voltage.
I personally find it’s easier to just plug it into the rear jacks and set
the menu options accordingly. No adapters required.
If you have a store near you that carries a wide selection of computer
headsets, I suggest trying several for fit and comfort before you buy.
There’s a huge range of prices and build quality out there.
I’m sure many will chime in here with specific makes and models they like,
but headsets tend to be a very personal choice, so try before you buy if at
all possible.
One last comment- when using a headset, you will almost certainly find that
an external PTT switch (foot switch , trigger, or button) is vastly
preferable to pushing the XMIT button on the radio, so plan accordingly.
Again, no adapter required if you plug into the rear panel PTT input.
73 de W0ZF

On Sun, Aug 6, 2023 at 11:37 AM Eric Fitzgerald  wrote:

> Hello Elecrafters,
>
> I've been struggling with a failing Kenwood MC-60 desk mic for portable
> operation and I would like recommendations for a good, robust headset
> that plugs into the front panel jack.
>
> Thanks in advance for that,
>
> 73 Eric KG6MZS
>
> PS; I tried to search the Mailman archives for this and couldn't find
> the search field.  Did it change recently?
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-KX] Peter Martinez And The CW-To-PSK31 Feature

[Dave Fugleberg]

A friend from work many years ago introduced me to his wife at a social
gathering. When he mentioned that I was also a ham, her tone and demeanor
suddenly changed, as she glared at me and asked “are you the one who gave
him those teletype machines in the garage?”

I was very glad that I was innocent!

By the way, I have used the built in function in my KX2 to work RTTY with
the paddles…it’s a pretty clever mashup of modes!

73 de W0ZF

On Sun, Feb 5, 2023 at 3:12 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 2/5/2023 10:47 AM, Alan Bloom wrote:
> > You mean I no longer need my 75-pound Model 15 Teletype machine to
> > send/receive RTTY?
>
> While I was moving from a house in Chicago I'd lived in for 20 years,
> one of those machines sat in the alley for a couple of weeks!
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Re: [Elecraft] Two-meter Radio Needed

[Dave Fugleberg]

I have no experience with the internal transverter, but the K3 supports
external transverters very well too. If you can find an Elecraft XV-144 and
connect the Aux cable, it’s completely seamless- you just keep hitting the
band up button til you’re on 2m, and the K3 display shows your actual
operating frequency (no mental math required). That’s actually true with
any external transverter, but you need to handle the band switching
externally yourself if you have transverters for multiple bands.

If you want a single box for your all-mode 2m rig, the IC-9700 is a very
nice radio as well.
73 de W0ZF

On Thu, Dec 8, 2022 at 12:17 AM Jim Brown  wrote:

> What do you want to do on 2M? In general, I see Kenwood as the best of
> the JA radios, and by a wide margin. I love their TH-F6A talkie (now
> discontinued), hated the digital replacement for it, so I'm still using
> the TH-F6As. I own three of them. One of them is in my Tesla Model 3,
> with a vintage 20W talkie amp. Their TM-V71A is a very nice FM rig. It's
> in my SUV.
>
> I have no positive advice on the equivalent of the 706. All-band rigs
> like that are well below the quality level you're used to with anything
> from Elecraft. For CW, SSB, or digital modes, I'd suggest the internal
> transverter for your K3S if it's still available, with an outboard brick
> amp. Vintage RF Concepts and Mirage (from California, NOT Mississippi)
> are the good brands.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 12/7/2022 6:25 PM, Richard wrote:
> > I have and enjoy the Elecraft “500 Family” (K3S, KPA500, KAT500)
> immensely. However, for 2 meters I’ve been depending upon a 20-year-old
> Icom IC-706MkIIG that’s already had some surgery. Lately, it’s been hinting
> at retirement, so I need to find a replacement.
> >
> > If you have available either of these, please let me know.
> >
> > Icom IC-7100
> > Ten-Tec 526 “6N2”
> > Anything similar. I’m open to suggestion.
> >
> > Please use my home email:   flat...@comcast.net  flat...@comcst.net>
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> > Thanks.
> >
> > Richard
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Re: [Elecraft] Heil Pro 7 headset with KX3 - RF feedback?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim's comments ring true for me tooHeadphones are a very personal
choice, and simply MUST be tried to see if they work for YOU.  I own a
couple of Heil Pro-sets, and a Heil 'Traveler', plus various others. One of
my favorites has been a relatively inexpensive 'gaming' headset from
Kingston, one of several 'HyperX' models they sell.  It's marked HX-HSCS-BK
Cloud Stinger.  It has 3.5mm plugs for the mic and headphones, similar to
the Pro-set...I can plug them into the rear jacks on my K3 in place of the
Heil Proset-iC, and they just work.  Very comfortable (for me).  About $35
on Amazon right now. I paid a little more than that at Microcenter when I
bought them awhile back, but they had a display with a bunch of gaming
headsets where you could actually examine them.  If you have such a store
in your area, it's worth a trip just to see the variety they have and find
something that works for you.  Computer gamers, like hams, often spend long
hours at their 'rig', and are a much larger market, so there's a lot of
choices for comfortable, quality headsets.
Note that these do have the electret mic element and do require an external
voltage to work, but that's just a matter of turning on the 'mic bias'
setting on the K3 (I imagine your KX3 is similar - I don't own one).  As
with any time you change microphones, you'll want to check and adjust EQ,
mic gain, and compression as needed.  Once dialed in, I doubt anyone could
tell the difference over the air between these and any 'high end' ham
headset.
So, if you're looking to replace your headset, computer gaming headsets are
worth consideration...but again, what is comfortable for one ham is painful
for another, so YMMV.

73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Jul 2, 2022 at 3:08 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 7/2/2022 12:36 PM, Peter Dougherty (W2IRT) wrote:
> > I gave up a long time ago and bought an Arlan
> > Communications radiosport headset. It's more expensive but it's
> absolutely
> > amazing. No clamping on my head,
>
> I had exactly the opposite experience on the two occasions I tried on a
> pair, 3-4 years apart. I found them to be an instrument of torture!
>
> I have a LOT of experience with headphones, have slept wearing Sony and
> Sennheiser headphones tuned to a jazz station for 20+ years, used them
> professionally mixing live recordings, use them now for serious music
> listening. In the shack, I've long used Sony MDR7506 for CW and RTTY,
> Yamaha CM500 for SSB, and find both quite comfortable in weekend-long
> contests.
>
> Headphones are a VERY personal thing, comfort STRONGLY depends on the
> size and shape of our heads and our ears.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] De-soldering Tool Recommendations?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Back when I was a bench tech doing component level repair, I used a vacuum
desoldering station from Pace (I forget the model). That thing worked
great- I pulled hundreds (maybe thousands) of through-hole parts from
boards with it.

They were (and are) expensive, but so are time and PC boards, so my
employer equipped every bench with one. It had a glass tube in the handset
that collected the solder. As long as you cleaned it regularly, it worked.

I recently looked at some used ones but still couldn’t justify the price
for my hobby needs, so I continue to use a variety of means to remove
solder. None are as good as the Pace. I’ve been tempted to buy a Hakko or
one of its knock offs, but reviews generally say they don’t have enough
suction. I’d love to hear an honest comparison between the Pace and the
Hakko from someone who has used both.

73 de W0ZF

On Mon, Mar 14, 2022 at 9:26 AM jerry  wrote:

> It's hard to beat a good old big blue Soldapullt.
>
>To remove the offending part with minimal damage to its surroundings,
> it's generally
> wise to chop the part off its leads first.  Then if you have access to
> both sides of the
> board, you can heat each land with a soldering iron and pull the lead
> out with a pair
> of tweezers or needle-nose pliers.  Then suck the land clean with the
> soldapullt.
> Alternatively, you can clean it with solder wick, and poke the hole
> through with a
> toothpick.
>
>I haven't had much luck with desoldering irons.  I did buy a
> desoldering station.
> It has a vacuum pump in the base unit, and a separate iron in a stand,
> with a vacuum
> chamber and filter.  The pump starts when you pull the trigger on the
> iron.  It's a
> Chinese copy of a Hakko.  First of all, the pump is not very strong.
> Not that much airflow
> or suction.  Much less than a Soldapullt.  Second, it takes it a LONG
> time to warm up,
> I guess because the desoldering head has high mass.
>
> - Jerry KF6VB
>
>
>
>
> On 2022-03-13 22:06, Tony wrote:
> > All:
> >
> > Can anyone recommend a budget de-soldering iron that can be used in
> > tight places? I need to remove a small component that has a few
> > surface mount devices close by so the iron would need to have a small
> > tip.
> >
> > Also need advice on the best soldering iron to use for this type of
> > work as well as the best low-temp Rosin core solder to use.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Tony -K2MO
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Re: [Elecraft] On ground - in ground radials

[Dave Fugleberg]

This discussion reminded me of a question that I’ve often wondered about
but have never asked.
I have read that when laying out radials on or under the ground, one should
be careful to ensure that they radiate out from a central point without
ever crossing one another.

I have also read about this idea of using galvanized mesh in place of a
traditional radial field. In a mesh, the conductors not only cross, but are
bonded together at every crossing.

So, is there actually an issue if a couple radials happen to cross each
other?

Not that one would do so on purpose, but when adding radials to a system
where the existing ones are no longer visible, it could easily happen…

Curious minds want to know.


On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 2:55 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 1/16/2022 12:19 PM, Mike Markowski wrote:
> > A construction site had left over galvanized mesh rolls that I bought at
> > great discount.  I unrolled them symmetrically about my then soon-to-be
> > installed vertical.  Easier than individual for lazy hams like me:-)  and
> > 2nd qso at 100W from Pennsylvania was Cambodia!  That qso made my day and
> > then some.
>
> Rob Sherwood, KC0B, published on this in the May 1977 edition of "Ham
> Radio," and I included his ideas in this talk.
>
> http://k9yc.com/160MPacificon.pdf
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Remote Software?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Wayne, perhaps you could just offer a transverter for Subspace Radio as a
future option…
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 10:23 PM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> We considered offering a faster-than-light option for the virtual-K4
> software:  the EleWarp(tm). But it turned out that, thanks to supply chain
> issues, we can’t get dilithium crystals until 2023. Until then our CW ops
> will have to be content with full-impulse.
>
> (Did I mention we’re also working on a DX tractor beam?)
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
>
> 
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> > On Dec 22, 2021, at 1:24 PM, Gerry Hull  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > FB Wayne!!  Can't wait.   I hope the latency will be far better than
> some (I won't mention) other radios.
> > GL to the team.  Thanks for all the hard work!  Happy Holidays!
> >
> > Gerry Hull, W1VE  Hancock, NH USA
> > CWOps #191 | YCCC | CanAm Contest Coalition | Maritime Contest Club
> > RadioSport Manitoba | ARRL | RAC | QCWA
> > ARCluster dxc.w1ve.com | Telnet or telnet:7373 access | RBN direct feeds
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Dec 22, 2021 at 4:19 PM Wayne Burdick 
> wrote:
> >> Hi Gerry,
> >>
> >> The Virtual K4 software ("VK4") is coming along. Now that we have the
> digital voice recorder up and running, we're turning our attention to
> streaming audio over ethernet, which is required for VK4.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Wayne
> >> N6KR
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Dec 22, 2021, at 6:44 AM, Gerry Hull  wrote:
> >> >
> >> > I don't see anything about K4 remote software?   Is there none?  No
> virtual
> >> > front panel?
> >> >
> >> > What's the plan?
> >> >
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Re: [Elecraft] RFIth

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim,
When you said “turns must go through the core in sequence”, does that mean
that each turn must rest next to the last one, rather than overlapping one
or more previous turns? I suspect that’s what “in sequence “ means- just
want to make sure.


On Mon, Dec 20, 2021 at 10:40 PM Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On 12/20/2021 7:50 PM, Buck K4IA wrote:
> > More turns is better until we get to very large chokes where the
> > inter-coil capacitance lowers the impedance.
>
> No. See my post in this thread about resonance.
>
> BTW -- I strongly agree that clamp-ons should be secured with a ty-wrap.
> And something I missed the first time around, but corrected in the
> latest version of RFI-Ham is that turns must go though the core in
> sequence. Out of sequence turns cancel in-sequence turns. Learned this
> from some measurements.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] New KX3/WSJT-X puzzle

[Dave Fugleberg]

If using CAT for PTT, make sure the PTT cable from the Signallink is NOT
connected to the radio. Having two separate PTT types active at the same
time will cause behavior like you described.

On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 1:21 PM David Haines  wrote:

> Using CAT on the PC.
>
> TEST CAT on PC turns green.
> TEST PTT on PC turns red and turns on the KX3  TX LED.  It looks like if
> I change to VOX the problem goes away, but I've always used CAT in the
> past.
>
> Signalinnk PTT LED turns on with TX.
>
> david
> KC1DNY
>
> On 12/3/2021 1:44 PM, Julia Tuttle wrote:
> > Are you using CAT on the PC, VOX on the SignaLink, or VOX on the KX3
> > for PTT?
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 3, 2021, 13:23 David Haines  wrote:
> >
> > I'll send this to the group before I start taking things apart:
> >
> > Running KX3 with KXP100 using SignaLink on 40m.  I've been using FT8
> > successfully for over a year.  Then last night something new:
> >
> > When I transmit (either the TUNE button of WSJT--X or replying to
> > a CQ)
> > the signal goes out successfully.  When the TX ends, the red LED
> > on the
> > SignaLink goes out but the TX red LED on the KX3 stays on.
> >
> > And --  this is the weird part -- the RX signal is gone -- absolutely
> > nothing on the waterfall or from the speaker.
> >
> > This does not happen when I push the TUNE button on the KX3.
> >
> > Ideas?
> >
> > david
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones (Again!)

[Dave Fugleberg]

I have the WH1000-MX3. I use them daily but for non-radio stuff. Easily the
best headphones I’ve ever had or used, for comfort and noise cancellation.
They sound great too.
I have used them with my KX2 when traveling, but I don’t think I’ve ever
used them at higher power so can’t comment on RFI or lack thereof.
They are amazing for air travel (not that I’m doing much of that lately).


On Fri, Nov 19, 2021 at 1:56 AM turnbull  wrote:

> John,I have the Sony WH 1000X M2.They are the most comfortable cans
> ever for me.   Noise cancellation is excellent esp as regards the KPA
> 1500.   I hear better with them and do so in comfort.   Never had the least
> bit of RF trbl from 160 to 6.73 Doug EI2CN   Age 77like a kid againSent
> from my Galaxy
>  Original message From: John Reilly 
> Date: 19/11/2021  01:16  (GMT+00:00) To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [Elecraft] Headphones (Again!) I recently purchased a Bose QC-45.
> I used it for about 5 minutes in a CWops contest, and got RF in the left
> headphone. I disconnected it, and returned to my Bose QC-35's. The QC-45's
> have been returned to Amazon.I had a similar problem earlier in the year
> with the Bose 700 headphones. I tried various toroids, but never could
> isolate them from RF (particularly a problem on 40m). Obviously, this is is
> not something Bose is concerned with. Fortunately, the QC-35 gamer
> headphones work well. With all three headphones, I used the headphone cable
> (not Bluetooth -> delay problem). FWIW, I like the Bose noise cancelling
> because it does a good job attenuating KPA1500 fan noise.Has anyone used
> the Sony WH-1000XM3 headphones? How do they work in an RF environment?   -
> 73, John,
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Re: [Elecraft] Configuring DXLabs Suite, Win4K3 and K3 for FT8 etc.

[Dave Fugleberg]

Brian,
Everything Jim said, plus a couple additional recommendations:
1- I would start by using WSJT-x by itself for a little while, configured
to talk directly to the K3, without DXLab Commander or Win4K3 running. This
will allow you to get familiar with WSJT-x, its configuration, making
contacts, etc. without anything else getting in the way. Make sure the
computer’s time is accurate using a time synchronization utility like
Meinberg or similar. The built in logging in WSJT-x will create a ADIF file
that you can import to DXKeeper later, so don’t worry about manual logging.

2- once you’re comfortable with the above, read
https://www.dxlabsuite.com/dxlabwiki/GettingStartedwithK1JTModes
and follow the instructions. If you already have Commander talking to your
K3 through Win4K3, just keep that configured as usual. WSJT-x can be
configured to use DXLab Commander as it’s ‘radio’ per the instructions in
that link above, so nothing needs to change for rig control if Commander
and Win4K3 are already working for you.
73 de W0ZF

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 6:22 PM Brian Deuby  wrote:

> I'm interested in getting my feet wet in WSJT digital modes, but don't
> know how to configure my K3, DXLabs Suite and Win4K3 to do this. I've
> checked the K3 manual, Fred Cady's more detailed K3 book and poked
> around the DXLabs and Win4K3 sites, but don't see how to get started.
> Can anyone direct me to a good source(s) of information on this?
>
> 73,
>
> /Brian K8GRR/
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[Elecraft] Portable operator challenge on NOW

[Dave Fugleberg]

The Portable Operators Challenge is a good excuse to break out that KX2 or
KX3 and get outside, but fixed stations are welcome as well. Exchange is
your grid square.
Since the rules allow self spotting, my KX2 and I are portable in
Minnesota, calling CQ around 14.210 until 1959z or my battery dies. How
about some Elecraft to Elecraft action?
73 de W0ZF/P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 control software

[Dave Fugleberg]

Bruce,
Several of the programs mentioned will handle sending CW via a macro.  You
said "Both read and write".  Does that mean you need the software to decode
the received CW as well as send it?

Win4K3 includes a 'terminal' function that can use the built-in CW
encode/decode capability of the K3.  You can set up macros, and it can log
to its own log file or optionally to DxLab DXKeeper, Log4OM, or Ham Radio
Deluxe.It basically sends the characters from your keyboard to the K3 which
converts them to CW on transmit, and displays on the screen the text the K3
has decoded on receive. Win4K3 requires payment, but is worth it in my
opinion for the many capabilities it provides.

DxLab includes WinWarbler which can send CW in several different ways, and
includes macros.  It can display decoded CW directly from the decoder in
the K3 or from a couple other software CW decoders. It also logs to its own
DXKeeper logging program.  DXLab is completely free, and is incredibly well
supported by its author. I use it for DXing and as my master log, among
other things.

N1MM can send CW in at least a couple of ways, and includes macros. Even
though it's primary purpose is contesting, it can also be used as a general
DX logging program.  I don't know whether it has any CW decode abilities. I
use N1MM mostly for contesting, and I use a clone Winkeyer with it for CW
keying.

I'm sure there are plenty more possibilities, However, my experience with
machine decoding of CW has not been very good. If the CW signal is strong
and the timing is good, and there's not much QRM, they do ok.  I have yet
to see one that does as well as the decoder between the ears.

That should at least give you some ideas to explore.
73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 12:26 PM Bruce Wade  wrote:

> Tnx for the input. I use WSJT for ft8.
> I am looking for controlling the radio for CW. Both read and write. also
> logging. I need marcos for fast response to dx.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 control software?

[Dave Fugleberg]

I use a variety of things depending on what I want to do. I often run
Win4k3 connected to the radio, and then other software like N1MM, DxLab,
etc. connected to the 'virtual radios' of Win4K3 via virtual serial port
pairs. I have found this a reliable way to allow multiple programs to each
'think' they are directly controlling the K3, while they are all being kept
in sync. In other words, changing frequency. mode, etc on the radio or in
one of the connected programs causes it to change everywhere.

Other times I just run N1MM or DxLab Commander connected directly to the
K3.  Or I'll connect N1MM to the K3, and then run WSJT-X from within N1MM,
so it logs directly into N1MM.

All depends on what you're trying to accomplish. If you can articulate what
your goals are, there are many here who can give you good advice on what to
use to get there!

On Fri, Aug 13, 2021 at 5:34 PM Bruce Wade  wrote:

> What are people using to control the K3?
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Re: [Elecraft] Don’t throw those old DOS computers away

[Dave Fugleberg]

As Rick said, there’s no single program that is “best “ for everything and
everyone. But there are some excellent choices out there, and many are free
or very low cost, so experimentation is probably the best teacher. Like you
said, some have tons of features that you may not have even dreamed of. You
may find that some of those features are indispensable once you have tried
them, and others are useless to you.

If you enjoy writing and maintaining code, more power to you!  Playing with
some of the free software might still be worthwhile just for the
inspiration.
On the other hand, if you're tired of rolling your own, you can probably
find something that meets your needs and then some.  I've found that
different situations (e.g. DXing vs Contesting) call for different tools,
so I use more than one, but that's a personal choice.

Here's some logging software features that are important to me...they may
not be important to you...

#1) must allow me to record all of the information I care to log, and not
force me to record stuff that I don't
#2) must automatically capture any information from #1 that is provided by
the radio or other peripherals (e.g. time, data, frequency, mode, callbook
lookups,  etc.) without me having to manually enter it
3#) must support import/export of data in standard formats
4#) must support reporting of things I'm interested in knowing from my log
(canned reports and/or database queries)
5#) must be in active development and support (e.g., to support new
contests, changes to DX entity lists, bug fixes)

Some very nice to have items (bordering on essential for me):
#6) integration with Logbook of the World
#7) integration with DX spotting networks
#8) integration with digital modes (e.g. software for RTTY, PSK, MSK, etc.)

Other useful features:
#9) integration to control antenna rotators
#10) customizable colors, fonts, etc.
#11) free or low cost

I choose the software that works best for me, and then get the platform
that supports it (Windows in my case). Others may value a specific platform
(Mac/Win/Linux) more highly and look for software that can run on it. To
each his own.

  I’ve settled on DXLab DXKeeper for general use and DXing, and a separate
contest-focused logger for contesting (usually N1MM, but I occasionally use
others specifically written for certain contests). I export ADIF files from
the others after each contest and import them to DXKeeper as my “master
log”.  I've also found the N3FJP loggers to be a good value for the money.
I've dabbled with others as well on Windows, Linux, Android, and iOS - they
all have their advantages.  Good luck in your quest !

On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 5:08 PM kevinr  wrote:

> Hi Jerry,
>
> Good luck with extending your own user interface.  I am sure there
> are contest logs listed somewhere on the web.  Not only would you get a
> list of CW ops who contest, you could also grab their details to fill in
> more fields.  Then scan that list with the partial call you copied.
> Even brute force search algorithms would be fine.
>
> As far as slicing and dicing data Perl, awk, and sed can do wonders
> with extracting, and formatting individual fields.  Plus they are
> already available on your OS.  A two line script with any of them can do
> what you want.
>
> The killer app for contesters seems to be N1MM.  I think you will
> have more fun writing your own since you know exactly what you need and
> what you like.  Building your own app should not be shamed.
>
>  GL & 73,
>
>Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> On 6/28/21 2:54 PM, jerry wrote:
> > So what's the hot ticket nowadays on logging software?
> >
> >  I rolled my own, but it's
> > quite primitive.  It runs on my Linux server and I access it via a web
> > browser.  It gives me a pair of clocks at the top - local and UTC.  At
> > the bottom, there's a big text window for copying code. In between -
> > the list of contacts, plus a form for entering a new one.  The current
> > UTC timestamp is automatically put in.  The latest contact has a
> > button for ending it - and putting in the "end" UTC timestamp.
> >
> >   It was easy to do that, because I already wrote substantial software
> > in support of my business, and the infrastructure was all there -
> > webserver, SSL, libraries for linking multiple pages, templates etc etc.
> >
> >I'm sure that other people have written logging software with
> > features I can barely imagine.
> >
> >   Right now, I'm thinking of having it automatically nominate text in
> > the CW copy window for new contacts"anything that looks like a
> > callsign".
> >
> >   Also need something to slice & dice the logbook data for contest
> > reports.
> >
> > - Jerry KF6VB
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 2021-06-28 14:16, Michael Walker wrote:
> >> I agree with Jim on this one.  :)
> >>
> >> Mike va3mw
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 28, 2021 at 4:55 AM Jim Brown 
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Yes, he SHOULD throw it away and learn mode

Re: [Elecraft] K3s and DEMI transverter

[Dave Fugleberg]

I use three Elecraft and one DEMI transverters with my K3. All split IF at
28 MHz, single antenna path for each, PTT low.

I’d go with the high stability LO, especially at 432 or higher. The lower
level drive works fine with the K3 and I believe the K3S transverter
interface is identical in that regard. You can set it on a per transverter
basis to get the drive you need. If you intend to use the same transverter
on a different radio that does not provide a low level drive or a split IF,
your choices may be different.

One other thing to consider is how to select the active transverter if you
add more than one. The Elecraft transverters have that built in, as they
can read the Aux bus. For others you may need some external switching so
that you only key the transverter that is selected. I use a band decoder
from unified Microsystems for this. Of course if you connect only one
transverter to your K3S that’s not an issue.


On Wed, Jun 2, 2021 at 8:33 AM W8JH  wrote:

> I am looking to add the DEMI (Q5) transverter to my K3s and have no
> experience with transverters other than the internal one in my KX3.  In the
> future, I may wish to progress to 2m EME as well.
>
> Here are some choices I need to make and I would appreciate any advice:
>
> Common IF vs Split IF.  I'm thinking split IF with a K3s?
>
> Common RF or Split RF.  Common RF for one antenna connection?
>
> IF drive level of -20 to 0dBm vs 0dBm to +20dBm.  I think the K3s
> transverter output is 0dBm so I'm not sure what to think here.
>
> PTT polarity low instead of high I'm thinking.
>
> High stability Local Oscillator vs. standard.
>
> I could get a custom IF and I think there is some slight advantage to a
> 14mHz custom but I'm guessing the 28mHz standard IF is good enough?
>
> Thanks in advance for any advice or references.
>
>
>
>
>
> -
> 73,
>
> Joe, W8JH
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Band decoder ala KRC2

[Dave Fugleberg]

Depending on your needs, the BCD-14 from Unified Microsystems is worth a
look. I use the older model BCD-10 for some external transverter switching
with my K3.
It’s just the populated PCB; you have to provide your own wiring and
connectors. The price is right though.
73 de W0ZF

On Fri, May 14, 2021 at 2:38 PM Jim Cary  wrote:

> Looking for a band decoder similar to the discontinued KRC2 for my K3 to
> control my antenna switch.  Doesn’t have to have a lot of bells and
> whistles.  Would appreciate any suggestions.
>
> Tnx and 73,
>
> Jim
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: High school drafting class, ~1975

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks for the memories Wayne! My High School drafting class was just a
couple of years after yours, and I remember it fondly. Everything from
drafting pencils (with lead of various sizes/hardness) to technical ink
pens on vellum.  I enjoyed it so much that I persuaded the instructor to
let me check out one of the old drafting machines for the summer break (I
think it was a Universal).

Just a few years later, in my first real job as an electronics technician,
I was introduced to electronic schematic capture tools, specifically the
Daisy Systems Logician and some Mentor Graphics systems. I spent hundreds
of hours drawing and updating schematics for the EEs at that company. Those
machines were over $100 grand each at the time, with 10MB hard drives.
Then the wirelists went to automatic wirewrap machines, or later, to
specialized board routing/layout machines that were even more expensive.

Now we have free or cheap schematic capture software on PCs thousands of
times more powerful for use as hobbyists.  Amazing. Yes, a lot has changed
in less than 50 years.

On Sat, Apr 24, 2021 at 12:10 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> OK, I've really dated myself now.
>
> Anyone remember "drafting"? A favorite class in high school: blueprints,
> mechanical drawings, schematics, straight edges, hand lettering,
> projections and elevations. We invented things to draw that weren't real,
> but looked like they should be. Did all the math by hand -- on a slide
> rule, if necessary. Day-dreamed about what we might one day build.
>
> 45 years later, we're using tools we couldn't have imagined. Modeling
> circuits and objects with millions of parameters and vectors, realizing
> them in virtual space, manipulating them in real time. Testing finished
> products before they're even assembled.
>
> The transformation is mind boggling. Yet the best part now, as it was
> then, is the occasional burst of creative energy that propels an idea
> forward. The feeling of pieces falling into place. Or forcing them into
> place out of sheer necessity.
>
> Most of the time, we think of our new tools and techniques as advances in
> the state of the art. Things we can't live without. But those same defining
> moments happened just as often in simpler times.
>
> Case in point -- my first real project, a rendition of W7ZOI's
> Micro-mountaineer. Carefully documenting it took several sheets of
> 4-squares-per-inch grid paper, which may still be in my cellar, beneath a
> lifetime of such drawings. With the schematic, I took a lot of pride in
> making the circuits look well-organized, as if that would somehow improve
> my odds. On the PC board, I drew large traces and pads with the etch-resist
> pen, as if that would somehow appease the electrons.
>
> I etched the PCB, soldered two dozen parts, and connected a 12 V lantern
> battery. Thanks to my paranoia about what would happen if I did it wrong,
> I'd taken my time and done it right.
>
> I was rewarded with a hiss of band noise and a few CW signals on 40 meters.
>
> Here's to those moments, and to that timeless pursuit: turning
> abstractions into reality.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] Copying CW and Pitch

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim, that’s an interesting bit of information. Is that the case even for
people who have excellent hearing at higher frequencies? In other words,
would people with excellent hearing at higher frequencies also benefit from
using a lower frequency side tone?


On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 5:45 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 3/13/2021 10:48 AM, Sverre Holm (LA3ZA) wrote:
> > A CW sidetone pitch of 400 Hz is consistent with what little research
> there
> > is on this. A paper from 1992 says that "/All subjects improved their
> > recognition as the frequency was lowered to 500 Hz, some even at 250 Hz.
>
> As a retired designer of large sound systems, I had to learn a lot about
> acoustics and psychoacoustics (the science of how humans' ear/brain
> interprets what we hear). That science tells us that, like most of our
> senses, hearing is logarithmic both with respect to frequency and
> loudness. This means that our discrimination of one frequency as
> compared to another increases with decreasing frequency. That is, we are
> better able to separate signals from each other with RX pitch set to
> lower frequencies.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] QSO Today Virtual Ham Expo this weekend

[Dave Fugleberg]

Hopefully they'll sort it out and come up with a way for latecomers (like
me!) to register to get the replays.  I had not planned to attend this
weekend for various reasons so did not do the 'early bird' registration.
This morning I checked the speaker list and saw a few sessions that sounded
interesting. The website indicated that the sessions will be available
until mid-April, so I thought I'd register 'at the door' so to speak, and
watch them over the next couple of weeks.
However, the registration page has not been updated for 'at the door'
sales. Then I saw all these emails about problems with tickets and such.
So, I think I'll wait and see if they get it sorted out.
 I attended the inaugural virtual expo last year, and it was pretty well
done, so I suspect this is just teething problems with the new ticketing
system.
Hope the ticketing issue doesn't leave Wayne and Eric all alone in their
booth waiting for customers that can't get past the gate!
73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 1:03 PM David Wilcox via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I could never get in.  They never sent me the “ticket” they promised to
> send on the 12 th.  Tried to sign in with the id letters (not numbers) they
> sent on my PayPal receipt but no luck.
>
> Sent a question the the help desk but no response.
>
> Dave K8WPE
>
> David J. Wilcox’s iPad
>
> > On Mar 13, 2021, at 11:33 AM, David Herring 
> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t know if this will ticket help or is even applicable to you, but
> in my case I was able to regenerate my ticket once I remembered that I paid
> with PayPal and that uses a different email than I typically use for ham
> radio correspondence. Supplying the billing email resulted in a ticket that
> got me right in.
> >
> > 73,
> > David - N5DCH
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 13, 2021, at 9:21 AM, Rick Tavan  wrote:
> >>
> >> Several of us have been unable to login to HamExpo, either with our
> >> original or regenerated tickets. Any idea how to get in?
> >>
> >> /Rick
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2021 at 7:38 AM Dave Van Wallaghen  > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For any of you attending the QSO Today Virtual Ham Expo this weekend
> >>> https://www.qsotodayhamexpo.com/
> >>> I was scheduled to present a couple of sessions regarding Elecraft's
> >>> Classic Line of products with a discussion on buying used rigs and
> >>> getting a start in building our kits. There have been a couple of
> >>> technical issues, and so at this point, they still have not been
> >>> scheduled as yet.
> >>>
> >>> But, I will be working in my shop most of the day, and we do have a
> >>> Classic Line Table in the Elecraft booth if you would like to stop by
> >>> and chat. I will login to the table with my camera and mic muted, but
> if
> >>> you see our logo with my initials DV at the table, just make some noise
> >>> so I know you are there and we can chat about anything you would like
> >>> related to Elecraft's Classic Line of products.
> >>>
> >>> Hope to talk with you soon...
> >>>
> >>> 73,
> >>> Dave, W8FGU
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Re: [Elecraft] [XV] Coax Daisychain on XV Transverters

[Dave Fugleberg]

I have 3 of them stacked on a shelf above my K3. From the K3 to the first
transverter the cables are around 50cm or so... I think I used RG-8x.  The
IF cables daisy chained from one XV to the next are about 15cm in length
and are RG-174. I originally used RG-8X there too, but they had to be much
longer than necessary in order to have a reasonable bend radius.
Has been working well for years. Hope that helps.

On Thu, Feb 25, 2021 at 12:22 PM David Ferrington, M0XDF <
m0...@alphadene.co.uk> wrote:

> For those of your with multiple XV series Transverters…
> When you daisy chain the RF between them, have you found the length of
> that cable is significant or is keeping it short, say 20cm ok?
> 73 de David, M0XDF (K3 #174, P3 #108)
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Re: [Elecraft] External sound card advice needed to attach to K3

[Dave Fugleberg]

The advice to use a separate sound card just for the radio is wise, and
makes the use of the computer much more convenient for multiple tasks. For
radios like the K3S, this additional 'sound card' is built into the radio,
so there's no reason not to use it.  For those of us (like me) with a K3
without a USB port, an external USB card is a great option.

However, it is entirely possible for someone to configure Windows to use
that card as the default as well, defeating the purpose of separate sound
cards. In fact, Windows may "helpfully" do so itself when a new sound card
is detected. So, adding a second card is great, but the PC must still be
correctly configured.

Bottom line is that people need to learn enough about their equipment
(INCLUDING their computer) to configure it correctly, and to troubleshoot
issues that arise.  No different than learning to properly adjust a
transmitter or amplifier for a clean signal - it goes with the territory.

I believe the original poster simply wanted a recommendation on what sound
card works well for digital modes.  I think you'd be hard pressed to find a
modern sound card that didn't - digital modes are not exactly demanding in
terms of a high end sound card.  Personally, I use this one with my K3 -
https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-External-Adapter-Headphone-Microphone/dp/B01HPMHOY0
 UGreen model 30420. They go for about 20 bucks.

It's a combination of a sound card and a 3 port USB hub. I have it
installed in the rack where my K3, P3, and Winkeyer live.  The USB to
RS-232 cable for the K3/P3 plugs into one of the ports on the hub, and  the
Winkeyer to another. Standard 1/8 inch audio cables connect the audio
in/out from the UGreen device to the audio in/out on the K3.  The single
USB cable from the UGreen device goes to the PC via a short USB extension
(the cord on the device is only 6 inches long).  I've used this for over
three years with no problems, for AFSK RTTY, SSTV, FT8, etc. as well as rig
control and CW keying.  All with one USB cable from the rack to the PC.
Very convenient.

On Fri, Jan 1, 2021 at 8:37 PM Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:

> If it's insisted to use the OS sound card; one should make sure that the
> audio driver (slightly harder to access in Win 10) does not allow local
> microphone (web cam or often built into a laptop) to be accessed EVER
> (by disabling it AND reducing the level to zero), lest it find a path
> into the transmitter.  Checking after each update is required; levels
> and setting CAN change then (check 'listen' tabs  to deny as well).
>
> That is the same issue as those who choose a mic input for (computer
> audio) digital TX, yet fail to disconnect the mic during digital
> transmitting, so both go live and unintended station sounds are
> transmitted with the wanted digital tones.  (head slap!)
>
> Again, a rig costs hundreds plus, a computer (except Pi) does also; yet
> there is resistance to adding a $20 item to make legality simpler to
> meet... not a significant price.
>
> Phil, you're correct in that it merits a question on the test; it's that
> common an error.  (No, I won't poke the bear, except to get a better
> photo, hi  and only from a safe distance).
>
> HNY,
> Rick NK7I
>
> On 1/1/2021 5:47 PM, Phil Kane wrote:
> > On 1/1/2021 5:11 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote:
> >
> >> Just make sure your OS does not set the external soundcard as
> >> default. Windows often does that when you first install it - check
> >> the soundcard settings.
> >
> > The Winlink VARA setup instructions make this very clear, although I
> > have never experienced a Win 10 update turning my OS sound selection
> > on after I have turned it to "No Sounds".
> >
> > 73 de K2ASP - Phil Kane
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Re: [Elecraft] Oscilloscope recs

[Dave Fugleberg]

I too prefer a self contained scope with knobs and buttons. Keep in mind
that most, if not all of these modern scopes can also be directly
controlled from a PC via USB or Ethernet. So you can have it all!

On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 9:38 AM John Oppenheimer  wrote:

> Hi Lou,
>
> Rigol DS2202A has time in saved image. But not date! Not sure why not
> date, as it does have internal date for file system time stamp.
>
> yes, prefer to have display with knobs and buttons!
>
> Good luck with your search.
>
> John KN5L
>
> On 12/9/20 8:40 AM, Louandzip via Elecraft wrote:
> > I saw the comment about the screen shots being saved to the computer not
> having time stamps.  Back in the day, my screen shot Polaroids that got
> taped into an paper notebook didn't have time stamps either, so I can def
> see the benefit there.
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Re: [Elecraft] Oscilloscope recs

[Dave Fugleberg]

I bought a Siglent SDS 1202X-E at Dayton a couple years ago. I really like
it. 200MHz dual trace, can control it and grab screenshots over the
network, does all kinds of measurements automatically, even does decodes
for a variety of serial data types. And it takes up far less room on the
bench than my old Tek scope.
I recommend it.
73 de W0ZF

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> Hi,
> I'm looking for a basic O scope for general HF ham use.  I figure 2
> channels and 50+ mHz bandwidth.  A few years ago I got rid of my old CRT
> 30mHz scope figuring I'd get something more modern and compact.  I though
> USB, but I see full scopes are pretty cheap, $250 and up. I see some
> USB/WIFI types for 1/2 that.  So far, I'm looking at Siglent, Rigol,
> Hantek.  Any suggestions, recs or input?
> TNX
>
> Lou W7HV
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 shortened dits - you can remedy this under N1MM+

[Dave Fugleberg]

Does this become apparent only above a certain speed? I'm guessing it's not
as big an issue below 30wpm or so, but would be good to know.

On Sun, Dec 6, 2020 at 10:23 PM  wrote:

> I have never heard of this issue until your post. In DX contests, dits
> sometimes disappear so we certainly to done want wimpy dits!  Does this
> issue also exist with the K3S? Is there a similar solution for those of us
> that use Writelog?
>
> John KK9A
>
> Dave Hachadorian K6LL wrote:
>
> I found out today that there is another way to change weight under N1MM -
> config/ports/other tab/weight.
>
> I wonder how many people do not realize that K3's  lighten CW keying
> applied
>
> through the KEY jack, and that their dits are wimpy?  I operated that way
> for 12 years, until W3LPL told me about it yesterday.  The K3 monitor
> sounds
>
> normal.
>
> Life is too short for wimpy dits!
>
> Dave Hachadorian, K6LL
> Yuma, AZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Headlights with red lighting

[Dave Fugleberg]

Watching this thread with some interest, as I use my K3 to drive
transverters when roving in VHF contests, and it's hard to see the front
panel controls at night. I tried making a light with a bit of aluminum
angle stock and a short strip of white LEDs (the kind that come on a long
roll), but even with a dimmer in line it was too bright.  Maybe if I tried
it with a short strip of red LEDs it would be better.

Kinda reminds me of the red lights we used in the darkroom when developing
film back in the day...

On Fri, Oct 16, 2020 at 1:04 PM W3AB  wrote:

> Black Diamond & Petal are two companies that make them. Not necessarily
> inexpensive but you get what you pay for. They have been very robust during
> my useage.
>
> ⁣___
> Sent from my two way wrist watch
> 73 de W3AB/GEO​
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Re: [Elecraft] RTTY for SOTA?

[Dave Fugleberg]

A few weeks ago, I was playing with my KX2 and tuning around on 20m when I
ran across a RTTY signal. It was a special event station. I worked them
with the paddle on the KX2.
I wouldn’t want to work RTTY all day that way, but it does get the job done
without a PC, and RTTY outside of contests does happen from time to time!
73 de W0ZF


On Tue, Aug 18, 2020 at 7:04 PM Adrian  wrote:

> Jim, Yes tough to find RTTY on the bands now. I have had to setup skeds
>
> via RTTY online groups/clubs to
>
>
>
> get a RTTY session. Also Gabe VK2LGS please PM (good on qrz re vk4tux
>
> email), for a RTTY contact if interested.
>
>
>
>
>
> Adrian Fewster
>
>
>
>
>
> On 19/8/20 8:44 am, Jim Brown wrote:
>
> > On 8/17/2020 6:25 PM, Wayne Burdick wrote:
>
> >> RTTY is the easiest to use, for three reasons -- assuming you have a
>
> >> KX3 or KX2:
>
> >
>
> > That's the easy part. The hard part is finding someone to work, except
>
> > during RTTY contests, and contesters are not going to be happy with
>
> > RTTY sent that way. :)
>
> >
>
> > 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] xv transverters

[Dave Fugleberg]

I built three of them (144, 222, 432) and have used them with my K3 in my
contest rover for several years. They are solid performers, and they work
seamlessly with the K3.

Since they can be used with many kinds of radios in many configurations,
there are a number of jumpers and connections you must set correctly to
make them work in your specific setup.
What radio are you using for the IF?

Don’s advice is spot on (as always) - best to set up one at a time and
remove some variables.

73 de W0ZF


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> Joe,
>
> Instead of daisy-chaining all the transverters, try connecting only one
> at a time (you should be able to use the daisy-chain control cable, but
> connect the TX and RX coax directly fron the K2/K3/K3S to the transverter.
>
> Then tell us what the particular problems are with each transveter.  We
> cannot give much advice on "It just does not work right".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 7/8/2020 8:10 PM, Joseph McIntire wrote:
> > I have two I need some help with neither one works or ever did. I
> believe I did every thing correct and believed something happened in trying
> to set them up to do the alignment procedures. But the power indicator came
> on till I hooked them up to do the alignment. I really cant see paying
> shipping and $125 an hour to get something fixed that cost $369.00 new. But
> they must be pretty fickle if one miss step in the setup takes them out.
> Just hate to see $700. 00 go down the drain.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] stripping insulation from enamel wires

[Dave Fugleberg]

I've used four methods:
- melt with a soldering iron
- burn off with a small butane torch
- scrape off with some very fine grit sandpaper
- scrape off with a single edge razor blade

All work, but I typically use the sandpaper or the razor blade.
With sandpaper, I just double over the sandpaper over the end of the wire,
squeeze, and pull the wire out. Sometimes takes 2-3 times to get it clean.

With the razor method,  I hold the wire down on the workbench and carefully
scrape off the insulation, scraping toward the end of the wire. I find this
gives me the best control of exactly how much insulation I remove. I just
reposition the wire a couple times to get it all off. takes seconds, and is
not hard on the wire (provided you have a light touch).

Have wound many toroids successfully with all methods.

On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 9:03 AM Robert G Strickland via Elecraft <
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> Here's an old problem that I've never solved: how to strip the enamel
> insulation from wires for winding toroids.
>
> The instruction say:
> -dip in a solder pot which I don't have
> -use a soldering iron to, presumably, burn the insulation off which has
> never worked for me.
>
> Leaving soldering pots aside, the hot iron approach has never burned off
> any insulation even with tip temp's hovering around 1000F. Just doesn't
> happen. Maybe it's the soldering iron, maybe my method, but whichever,
> the enamel insulation just sits there. I end up using a file to scrape
> off the insulation which is tough on the wires and hard to predict when
> enough is enough. Any insightful hints? Thanks much.
>
> ...robert
>
> --
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Re: [Elecraft] How to allow K3S to feed multiple logging programs on my laptop?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Check out Win4K3. It does that and much more. Well worth the asking price
in my opinion.
You can download it as a trial. If you like it, you just buy a license and
apply it - no need to reinstall it.
No connection with the author- just a happy customer.

On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 2:35 PM Tom Norris NB5Q 
wrote:

> I have K3S Serial Number 11459 and a P3  and would like to communicate with
> N3FJP ACLog and SKCCLogger at the same time or one of the logging programs
> and the K3 Utility. Technology has raced past me! Is the bottle neck with
> only one com port available from the K3S?
> Thanks, Tom NB5Q
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft] OT: The Colpitts mystery

[Dave Fugleberg]

Yep, that was the textbook for the Communications class I had in
electronics school in 1983. One of the requirements to pass the class was
to pass the General Radiotelephone exam. The FCC Examiner came over from
the St Paul field office to the technical school to administer the exam to
the class.
Shortly after that, I went to the field office and passed the General and
Advanced  amateur exams...most of the technical portions were nearly
identical to the General Radiotelephone.

On Wed, Apr 29, 2020 at 8:35 AM Gerry Villhauer  wrote:

> The text book of choice for the commercial license test was: Electronic
> Communications by Shrader. I have a copy, 2nd addition. I used it for
> passing my 2nd and 1st class commercial test...Now the General Radio
> Telecommunication License.
> Gerry, W0GV
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Re: [Elecraft] Fw: KX3 with KX3 Companion application

[Dave Fugleberg]

The original question was not about a PC at all - it was about an Android
app called KX3 Companion running on an Android tablet.

The application website states in one place that the USB cable that comes
with the KX3, plus an OTG cable, are all that is needed.  However, later in
states that a new feature has been added to display the audio spectrum and
waterfall, and this requires one extra cable (from audio outpu of the KX3
to the audio input jack of the Android device).

 Aubrey, you didn't say whether you got the CAT control functions of the
app working or not.  I'd advise you to make sure that's working before
dealing with the waterfall/spectrum display.

It's important with Android apps like this that you have a true "OTG"
cable, AND that your Android device includes OTG support (not all do).

The OTG cable lets you plug USB devices (like thumb drives, keyboards,
etc.) into an Android device. Some cables have the proper connectors but
are not wired to support OTG, so make sure you have the right cable.

You must also verify that your tablet supports OTG in the first place. Look
for an app called USB OTG Checker - this will tell you whether your tablet
supports OTG.  If so, any OTG cable should work, and you should be able to
control the KX3 with the app.

Once that works, you can connect the audio output from the KX3 to the
tablet's microphone input and see if the spectrum display works. Depending
on your tablet, you may need some kind of adapter to split out the
microphone input (some tablets and phones combine the mic input with the
headphone jack).

Near as I can tell, this is strictly a audio spectrum scope and does not
take advantage of the quadrature (I/Q) output of the KX3. The author does
state that you can use one channel of the I/Q output as your audio feed if
you like, or you can take it from the Phones jack.



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> Bill,
>
> It depends on the computer and the external soundcard - so the answer is
> 'maybe'.
> In general, if there is only one input, and it is configured for MIC, it
> will be mono.  If configured for LINE, it will be stereo.
>
> So it depends on the soundcard settings.  If there are separate MIC and
> LINE inputs, check your computer specs.  There is no one answer other
> than "it all depends".
>
> My college professor's advice back in 1966 was "Technician/Engineer,
> know your equipment and its capabilities as well as its limitations" -
> that still applies today.  One cannot speak in generalities about any
> equipment type unless the specifics are known - study the specifications
> for the proper answers to your specific equipment.
>
> Based on that information, the one answer to your question is "maybe".
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/8/2020 8:19 PM, Nr4c wrote:
> > Are computer mic inputs still mostly MONO while the LineIn inputs are
> usually STEREO?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > ...nr4c. bill
> >
> >
> >> On Jan 8, 2020, at 4:56 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> >>
> >> Aubrey,
> >>
> >> Did you enter the menu and set the RX IQ parameter to ON?  If set to
> OFF (the default) there will be nothing out of the RX IQ jack.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Don W3FPR
> >>
> >>> On 1/8/2020 4:28 PM, Aubrey Mason wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> From: Aubrey Mason 
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 8, 2020 3:27 PM
> >>> To: Walter Underwood 
> >>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] KX3 with KX3 Companion application
> >>> I need to know the specifics from someone who has already done it..
> >>> None of the written materials say what needs to be done and an audio
> cable between Rec IQ and the mic input of the tablet does nothing.
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Re: [Elecraft] XV Transverter: what can it do?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Steve -
I have the XV144, XV222, and XV432 in my shack on a K3. Basically, a
transverter allows you to use your radio on a band that's not already built
in to the radio. For example, the XV144 lets you use your HF radio on the
144MHz (2 meter) band.
The transverter converts the received 2m signal into a signal on the 10M
band so your K2 can receive it. On transmit, it converts a low-level 10m
signal to a 2m signal, amplifies it, and sends it to the antenna.

The XV transverters are great if you want to do SSB and CW on the VHF and
UHF bands.

Does that help?

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> This is a stupid question, I am sure.
> I have a loaded K2, and wanted to add more, so I’ve been trying to figure
> out what an XV Transverter (144) is for.I have looked on Elecrafts site
> for a good description of what I can do with an XV Transverter, but have
> not found it.  I have looked for info in the List Archives, in YouTube, and
> the XV Transverter manuals.  Please respond with information on the use of
> these.  Santa might have to order me one, if I can figure out what I would
> do with it.
>
> Thank you and 73,
>  Steve - KI4EZL
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Re: [Elecraft] Dedicated FTx Rig

[Dave Fugleberg]

WSJT-X does, in fact, provide a way to do band changes without touching the
radio.
There's a pull down menu on the main window just to the left of the
frequency.  Click the little down arrow on that box, select the band, and
the radio will follow. The Frequencies tab under Files..Settings menu must
be configured with the  frequencies you plan to use on each band.

Regarding the idea of a dedicated, all-in-one rig for FT modes, I suspect
the reason that such single-purpose radios have never caught on is that
radio and computer technology often evolve at different rates. For
instance, you might wind up in a couple years with a box that contains a
perfectly good radio, but is stuck with a computer that's not suitable for
digital mode flavor of the month.  Keeping them separate is far more
flexible,at the expense of some integration and configuration work.

Maybe there's a market for such a device...maybe not. I can't imagine there
would be enough demand to justify it, but then again, maybe that's why I'm
not in the ham radio manufacturing business :)

73 de W0ZF


On Sat, Aug 10, 2019 at 3:41 PM David Gilbert 
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>
> I'm certain this is not an original idea, but I wonder if somebody will
> ever come out with a dedicated all-in-one notebook-sized portable rig
> for the FT-type digital modes.  I'm pretty new to FT8/4 but I find it
> interesting that when I'm operating it all I ever do with my K3 is turn
> it on and make band changes since everything else is done on my
> computer.  I wouldn't even need to do that much on the K3 if WSJT-X had
> a button to make band changes.
>
> Possibly such a unit might look like:
>
> 1.  12 volt operation (10 watts output) for portable use
>
> 2.  large enough screen to be practical
>
> 3.  running modified (mouseless) version of WSJT-X  to allow up/down
> arrow keys for:
>
>  a.  band selection
>  b.  frequency change in 2 KHz increments
>  c.  mode selection
>  d.  contact selection from activity window
>  e.  TX1-TX6 sequence override
>  f.   transmit enable/disable
>
> 4.  a button to momentarily press for log, press/hold to autolog
>
> 5.  USB port to run modified WSJT-X from flash drive for easy upgrade
> and log transfer
>
> 6.  internal antenna tuner (could be manual)
>
> 7.  etc.
>
> Rigs dedicated to specific modes have never been very popular, but I
> suspect that FTx might change that and I suspect an integrated low power
> SDR version could end up being fairly inexpensive.  A side advantage is
> that audio levels would be preset in hardware and we'd see less
> overdrive situations.  ;)
>
> Anybody know if there is already something like this out there?  I can
> find small inexpensive transceivers designed for FT8, but they still
> require a separate computer.
>
> Just some ramblings on a rainy day ...
>
> 73,
> Dave   AB7E
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 port sharing and FT-8

[Dave Fugleberg]

Yep, that's the best solution. I built a winkeyer clone with an Arduino
Nano, and it works great.
Thanks for a fine piece of software Tom. It is well worth the price of
admission and a key component in my shack.
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 5:09 PM Tom  wrote:

> Managing the DTR and RTS over 6 virtual computers all running in separate
> threads and on the radio introduces lots of potential incompatibilities
> between applications where one might expect a different signal than the
> other and so on.  Fortunately, all applications that I am aware of support
> software PTT or allow you to use a different comport for PTT.  You can make
> such an adapter easily with one resistor and a transistor on an RS232 port.
> In the case of N1MM+, using DTR to send CW when there are 6 other
> applications running is impossible since it relies on precise time for the
> dit's and dah's.  So the solution is a WinKey for CW.  You can buy one for
> under $40 these days and well worth it.
> 73 Tom
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On
> Behalf Of Dave Fugleberg
> Sent: June 12, 2019 9:08 AM
> To: M. George 
> Cc: Elecraft Mailer 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 port sharing and FT-8
>
> I would echo what Max said. I use Win4K3 whenever the K3 is on in the
> shack,
> but seldom use its graphical interface. The virtual radio concept works
> extremely well.
> As he said, software that expects to connect directly to the K3 has no idea
> that Win4K3 is there. I did find one caveat to this while testing it during
> my trial period... I used to send CW from the computer by toggling DTR on
> the K3 serial port. With Win4K3 in the mix, this did not work. Tom told me
> that direct control of those hardware handshake lines was not supported.
> I was so happy with everything else it does that I bought it anyway and
> switched to using a winkeyer.
> I don't know whether that limitation still exists or not...just throwing it
> out there in case it matters to your use case.
>
> On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:05 PM M. George 
> wrote:
>
> > Wes, I wanted to jump in where Tom mentioned my YouTube video of
> > sharing Virtual K3 CAT feeds with Win4K3Suite
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U>.
> >
> > I'm just like you, I like to turn the knobs primarily.  Don't be
> > confused by the graphical interface that Win4K3Suite provides as it
> > relates to sharing your K3/S CAT feed.  Early on I purchased the
> > software primarily for the ability to share full on Virtual CAT Feeds
> > and not the graphical interface.  The CAT sharing is just one aspect
> > of Win4K3Suite.  The PAN Adapter support and graphic interface are
> > simply additional features you can use if you like.  And for remote
> > operation the graphical interface is excellent as you will learn if
> > you operate remote.  Or just minimize Win4K3Suite and don't use it...
> > twist the knobs on your radio and just use the CAT sharing via the
> Virtual
> K3 CAT feeds it provides.
> >
> > I would highly recommend that you watch my video.  It's very
> > detailed... to a fault some will say, but you can jump ahead by 10
> > seconds and back using the L and J keys and pause with the K key.  Or
> > jump ahead 5 seconds and back with the arrow keys and pause with the
> space
> bar.
> >
> > I too used LP-Bridge many years ago and it did work, but it isn't even
> > in the same ball park for reliability as Win4K3Suite for sharing CAT
> Feeds.
> > Not even close.
> >
> > The beauty of :Win4K3Suite is that it creates true Virtual K3/S CAT
> feeds.
> > The software or hardware you are using has no idea it's not connected
> > directly to the K3/S CAT port / USB CAT port direct.  No funky API's
> > like Hamlib or Omni-rig that requires software support to use the
> > abstraction layer required.
> >
> > If there is hardware or software that expects to be connected directly
> > to a K3/S CAT port / feed, it will work with Win4K3Suite Virtual K3/S
> > CAT interfaces.
> >
> > Watch the video and give Win4K3Suite a try.
> > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U> The com0com port setup
> > trips most guys up, but you have the same problem with LP-Bridge too.
> > I go into great detail on com0com in the video.  It's not bad once you
> > understand the concept. You won't go back to LP-Bridge... my two
> > cents.  And again, you are not required to use the graphical interface
> > to the K3 for anything, but you might just start using it after awhile,
> for remote control like I did.
> > Not to

Re: [Elecraft] K3 port sharing and FT-8

[Dave Fugleberg]

I would echo what Max said. I use Win4K3 whenever the K3 is on in the
shack, but seldom use its graphical interface. The virtual radio concept
works extremely well.
As he said, software that expects to connect directly to the K3 has no idea
that Win4K3 is there. I did find one caveat to this while testing it during
my trial period... I used to send CW from the computer by toggling DTR on
the K3 serial port. With Win4K3 in the mix, this did not work. Tom told me
that direct control of those hardware handshake lines was not supported.
I was so happy with everything else it does that I bought it anyway and
switched to using a winkeyer.
I don't know whether that limitation still exists or not...just throwing it
out there in case it matters to your use case.

On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 11:05 PM M. George 
wrote:

> Wes, I wanted to jump in where Tom mentioned my YouTube video of sharing
> Virtual K3 CAT feeds with Win4K3Suite
> .
>
> I'm just like you, I like to turn the knobs primarily.  Don't be confused
> by the graphical interface that Win4K3Suite provides as it relates to
> sharing your K3/S CAT feed.  Early on I purchased the software primarily
> for the ability to share full on Virtual CAT Feeds and not the graphical
> interface.  The CAT sharing is just one aspect of Win4K3Suite.  The PAN
> Adapter support and graphic interface are simply additional features you
> can use if you like.  And for remote operation the graphical interface is
> excellent as you will learn if you operate remote.  Or just minimize
> Win4K3Suite and don't use it... twist the knobs on your radio and just use
> the CAT sharing via the Virtual K3 CAT feeds it provides.
>
> I would highly recommend that you watch my video.  It's very detailed... to
> a fault some will say, but you can jump ahead by 10 seconds and back using
> the L and J keys and pause with the K key.  Or jump ahead 5 seconds and
> back with the arrow keys and pause with the space bar.
>
> I too used LP-Bridge many years ago and it did work, but it isn't even in
> the same ball park for reliability as Win4K3Suite for sharing CAT Feeds.
> Not even close.
>
> The beauty of :Win4K3Suite is that it creates true Virtual K3/S CAT feeds.
> The software or hardware you are using has no idea it's not connected
> directly to the K3/S CAT port / USB CAT port direct.  No funky API's like
> Hamlib or Omni-rig that requires software support to use the abstraction
> layer required.
>
> If there is hardware or software that expects to be connected directly to a
> K3/S CAT port / feed, it will work with Win4K3Suite Virtual K3/S CAT
> interfaces.
>
> Watch the video and give Win4K3Suite a try.
>  The com0com port setup trips
> most guys up, but you have the same problem with LP-Bridge too.  I go into
> great detail on com0com in the video.  It's not bad once you understand the
> concept. You won't go back to LP-Bridge... my two cents.  And again, you
> are not required to use the graphical interface to the K3 for anything, but
> you might just start using it after awhile, for remote control like I did.
> Not to mention all the other features... like using it with LP-PAN2 or
> SDRPlay.  I switched from NaP3 long ago and never looked back.  By the way,
> i'm a big N8LP fan too... I love the LP-PAN2 setup and LP-700, but NaP3
> plays second fiddle to Win4K3Suite's spectrum display and you can now pump
> a UDP feed of the spectrum to N1MM too... Have fun.
>
> Max NG7M
>
>
> Tom,
>
> I've downloaded and tried your program several times (perhaps that why your
> site
> won't let me do it again).? Nothing personal, but I just don't like running
> the
> radio from the computer that much.? I know that flies in the face of my
> desire
> to tune (sometimes) the frequency with the mouse on the panadapter.?
> Otherwise,
> I like the knobs.? That said, your mention of Omni-rig got me thinking and
> I
> installed it and at first blush it appears that I can now connect
> everything to
> everything else using LP-Bridge.
>
> I'll call this the beta test stage, but did want to put this out there for
> the
> folks who said it would work.
>
> Wes
>
>
> On 6/11/2019 4:00 PM, Tom wrote:
> > Hi
> > 7 years ago, I tried to write some small software projects that used
> LPBridge to share ports. I quickly found out that it does not pass all
> commands through the radio. In addition, there were many cases of
> collisions between software products if they tried to write to the comport
> at the same time.
> > So, a long story short, I developed Win4K3Suite.
> > It is completely different than passive comport sharing utilities.  It
> has 6 "Virtual radios" that act pretty well identical to the K3, KX3 or
> KX2.  It listens to commands from software products and then delivers
> results either from memory or if a write is necessary, then all threads are
> synchronized and prioritised so that one application cannot clobber the
> oth

Re: [Elecraft] Sorta OT - assistive technology assistance needed

[Dave Fugleberg]

I usually like to build stuff when I can, but I have to agree with the
others who suggested a commercial mixer. They are cheap and work well.
I recently bought a small behringer USB mixer for under 50 bucks for a
project at work. It acts as a USB sound card, so you can mix audio to or
from the PC with other sources. You can adjust levels, equalization, and
position (left/right) for each source.
I doubt one could homebrew an equivalent unit any cheaper.
Good luck with your project! I’m sure your friend will appreciate it.

On Wed, Jan 9, 2019 at 5:30 PM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> James,
>
> There was a homebrew headphone mixer in the ARRL Handbook sometime back
> - simple, with op-amps to isolate the sources.
>
> However with the advent of 2 to 5 input mixers being available in the
> $20 to $60 range (see Amazon), it seems foolish to consider building
> your own - drilling the enclosure for the potentiometers and jacks,
> building the board, mounting things, etc. will take more time and effort
> than is reasonable unless you really like doing those things - and it
> will likely cost more than buying one already built.
>
> The nice thing about a mixer is that you have control over the level of
> each input as well as an overall output volume control.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 1/9/2019 6:03 PM, Richards wrote:
> > Good Day.
> >
> > Background:
> >
> > I am assisting a blind ham who also suffers some hearing loss.  I
> > suggested using headphones to attenuate ambient environmental noise as
> > he operates.  The rub is, he needs to hear both his receiver AND his
> > computer (which provides audible feedback when logging contacts and
> > performing other duties.)
> >
> > Question:
> >
> > Can anyone suggest a simple passive (or active) mixer circuit schema I
> > can build for him to safely mix audio signals from his transceiver
> > headphone jack with audio signals from his computer sound card headphone
> > jack?
> >
> > Discussion:
> >
> > While there are multiple commercially produced simple and complex mixing
> > products in the marketplace, I would prefer to build an inexpensive,
> > small footprint solution we can easily incorporate in his station to
> > minimize clutter and the number of cables, jacks, and controls -- he
> > contends with plenty of that already.   I suppose one solution might be
> > a simple Y-adapter cable, but that seems too easy and I wonder whether
> > we should isolate the signals and/or grounds in some way?  (e.g., I do
> > not wish to cause any "Pin-1" grounding issues, and etc.)
> >
> > Any traction?   Can anyone point me to an appropriate circuit schematic
> > or other resource?  I don 't mind doing homework, and while I enjoy
> > building stuff and I am familiar with the basic concepts involved,  I
> > could use a leg up on this project, especially to keep it simple and
> > easy to build and implement. Please reply off list if this question is
> > too far off topic, although I suspect there are many hams who might be
> > interested in the result, besides similarly situated disabled operators.
> >
> > Thank you -  James - K8JHR -
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 v. SDRPlay RSP1A for panadapter

[Dave Fugleberg]

The P3 is simpler- plug and play, no fooling around with configuring HDSDR
or whatever software you prefer. You can set up the hardware buttons for
whatever you want, so it’s very convenient to make quick changes to span,
etc.

SDRPlay is cheaper and can integrate with other software to show spots on
the waterfall, etc.

I started with a softrock and a sound card for a pan adapter, then moved to
SDRPlay, then bought a P3. I don't miss the dependence on the computer, or
the larger screen. Your mileage may vary.
On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 12:18 PM Bill Weaver  wrote:

>
>
> I'm about to place an order for a K-Line and have a question for the
> experienced users out there. What is the advantage of the P3 v. The SDRPlay
> box as a panadapter if any?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Bill - WE5P
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position....

[Dave Fugleberg]

Bill,
When you say it 'locks itself up top', I assume you mean that you can see
part of the window, but is so high up that the title bar is not on screen.
Is that correct?

If so, then:
1) click somewhere in that window to make it the active window
2) on the keyboard, hold down the Alt key and tap the spacebar. You should
see a popup menu with options like Restore, Move, etc.
3) tap the x key. This will maximize that window to fill your screen, and
the title bar will be visible
Now you can resize or close the window.
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 1:13 PM Jack Brindle via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> I presume you are talking about the W2 Windows Utility and not the W2
> itself, especially since the W2 has no video monitor or video monitor
> outputs. Reloading firmware would have no effect here. It is purely a
> Windows issue.
> Perhaps some Windows experts can help out?
>
> 73!
> Jack, W6FB
>
> > On Oct 18, 2018, at 10:24 AM, Bill Johnson  wrote:
> >
> > Bill,
> > Look in the manual, if you don't have one, Elecraft has one on their
> website.  I would suggest reloading the firmware.  I have not worked on
> mine in years so I have forgotten the process.  If that doesn't work for
> you, then tech support will be current I am sure.
> >
> > 72 & 73,
> > Bill
> > K9YEQ
> > FT'er for K2, KX1, KX3, KXPA100,  KAT500, W2, etc.
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> On Behalf Of bill steffey
> > Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2018 9:30 AM
> > To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: [Elecraft] ELECRAFT WATTMETER SOFTWARE w2 screen position
> >
> > i use three monitors and my W2 screen locks itself up top so I cannot
> close it or move it.
> >
> > I could not find an  "ini" file to amend the screen position.
> >
> >
> > How do i reposition that application ( which does not appear to be
> "installed")
> >
> >
> > bill ny9h
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] USB mouse support for P3SVGA -- please don't neglect the scroll wheel

[Dave Fugleberg]

Bob, I know this isn't exactly what you describe, but it's a hack I thought
I'd mention.

I like the P3 for Search & Pounce in RTTY contests, but it's very tiresome
to use the QSY knob on the P3.

Rather than using the P3 marker/QSY function, I found I could get similar
results by using VFO B, A/B, and A>B on the K3, but that's tiring as well.

So, I gutted out an old optical mouse except for the switches and scroll
wheel/encoder, and stuffed an Arduino Nano inside.

The Nano's USB port is plugged into the computer and assigned to one of the
virtual ports of Win4K3, so it looks like a serial CAT device to the P3/K3.

The Arduino's code has two states: Hunt and Devour.

The Right button puts it in Hunt mode, where the scroll wheel adjusts VFO
B. I scroll VFO B to the next RTTY signal on the band while working one on
VFOA.

When my QSO is done, a click of the wheel puts it in Devour mode. This
executes A/B, then A>B, so both VFO are now on the new frequency. In this
mode, the scroll wheel controls VFO A for fine tuning to zero in and devour
the prey.

Once I start that QSO, I click the right button to enter Hunt mode, and the
cycle repeats.

I call this gadget the RTTY Kitty, or the CAT-n-Mouse.

Of course, general purpose mouse support on the P3 would be much more
versatile, but this works pretty well for the specific purpose I had in
mind, and it was fun to do.

I suspect something similar could be done with a KPod, but I don't have
one, and dead optical mice are plentiful.

73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 9:01 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV  wrote:

> When Elecraft adds mouse support to the P3SVGA, please use the scroll wheel
> for fine tuning after the click, as one does on an SDR.  You're can almost
> never tune in someone perfectly just by clicking, and you shouldn't need
> two hands to tune in a station, one on the VFO knob, and one on the mouse.
>
> A mouse driver for the P3SVGA could be very simplified.  It does NOT have
> to work like a mouse on a PC.
>
> Like the P3 VFO "markers," all a mouse needs to support is *horizontal
> movement* of a single vertical line when you move the mouse, not a fancy
> mouse pointer that goes up and down.  A vertical line is sufficient.  We
> only need to click on signals on the waterfall, not "buttons" or "menus".
>
> This is what I'm expecting to see from the P3SVGA mouse support:
>
> Left click:Move VFO A to clicked freq.
> Right click:   Move VFO B to clicked freq. (for DX split pileups)
> Scroll Wheel:  Fine tune VFO A, B, or "last-clicked" (user option)
>
> Scroll Wheel Up = move VFO up in frequency
>
> Scroll Wheel Down = move VFO down in frequency
>
>
> I understand that modern Icom radios (IC-7610, IC-7851) already support
> click-to-tune on their waterfall displays using a USB mouse or touch-screen
> tap, but they ignore the scroll wheel completely, making them much less
> useful.  Elecraft can and should do better.
>
> If Elecraft needs to "monetize" this to make it happen, *I would gladly pay
> $50 for a P3 firmware upgrade that provides P3SVGA mouse support.*
>
> Next best would be *P3SVGA K-POD support*, K-POD connected to P3SVGA via
> USB, used instead of the tiny P3 knob and awkward knob push, but maybe
> that's not feasible due to hardware limitations.
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
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Re: [Elecraft] P3IQ

[Dave Fugleberg]

Aha, NOW the proposed add on module makes sense to me... assuming one
already has a P3 (as I do), adding this will make the P3 appear as a USB
device to SDR software on a PC (much like a SDRPlay or RTL SDR dongle.
Correct?

What will be the advantages of this versus connecting a SDRPlay, etc to the
P3 IF Out?
On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 8:31 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Nice explanation, Don.
>
> However, when we do an I/Q add-on for the P3, it will be fully digital
> (like a USB sound card), not analog (like the KX3’s RX I/Q outputs).
>
> These digital signals already exist in the P3; we just need to repackage
> them for use with a computer.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
> Don Wilhelm wrote:
>
> > The KX3 has I/Q signals (and I/Q outputs) because the I/Q signals are at
> baseband (audio frequency spectrum).  
>
> > The current fact is that the K3 I/Q signals exist, but they are only in
> the digital world.  The P3 does extract them, but for purposes of the P3,
> they remain in the digital world.
> > Getting those signals into the analog world will take some work and
> design effort.  It is more complex than a digital to analog converter.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Survey and summary: Elecraft K3/K3S panadapter solutions

[Dave Fugleberg]

 As I understand it, the KX3, and the P3, both contain a software defined
receiver, so the I/Q signals are already present.

That is not the case for the receiver in the K3 or K3S, so adding it there
would involve adding a SDR.
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 2:21 PM Dick Dickinson 
wrote:

> Ever the contrarian here, I note the KX3 has I/Q output.  Why not a module
> for the K3/S rather than the P3..?
>
>
> Dick - KA5KKT
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Re: [Elecraft] BNC T for IF Out

[Dave Fugleberg]

The P3 has an IF Out jack. I have connected that to a SDRPlay RSP1 with
good results. No splitter or tee required. You must flip the little switch
on the back of the P3 to enable IF Out.
On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 9:14 PM Leroy Buller  wrote:

> Part number?
>
> Lee
>
> On Thu, Jul 26, 2018, 8:45 PM John Simmons 
> wrote:
>
> > You should use a splitter with isolation. Mini-Circuits sells them.
> >
> > -John NI0K
> >
> > Leroy Buller 
> > Thursday, July 26, 2018 8:38 PM
> > Stupid Question of the Month.
> >
> > Is it possible to use a BNC T to drive P3 and a SDRPlay at the same time?
> > Is there enough drive to do this?
> >
> > Back to your regular programming.
> >
> > Lee K0WA
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are occupied

[Dave Fugleberg]

As a ‘field engineer ‘ for a global company in the 80s, I’d occasionally
find one of those RS232 breakout boxes tucked behind some production
system, jumpered to make the connection work, blinking away, because some
technician finally hit upon the magic combination and then left it in place
rather than building a proper cable.
I’ve seen lots of devices whose designers took great liberty with the RS232
standard...a breakout box and some gender changers was indispensable in
working with a variety of serial devices. Sometimes even that plus a
healthy amount of experience wasn’t sufficient, as when marginal voltage
swings, extra long cables, and different ground potential at each end
conspired against you.
Lots of fun!
On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 10:10 AM Cady, Fred  wrote:

> Thanks Don.  It must have been interesting working all that out.  I used
> to enjoy giving my students a history lesson explaining the control and
> handshaking signals in the RS232 connector from basic principles, starting
> with the Bell 103 modem.  That didn't help  explain the terminology and
> signal naming problem that Andy had. Manufacturers were terrible at keeping
> to the standard.  And really, in isolation, it doesn't make sense that a
> signal named TxD would be a input and not an output.  Documentation was
> scanty and so the scope, or my favorite test tool -- the RS232 Blinky Box
> -- had to be gotten out to tell what was what.
>
> The now  used for other purposes signals are:
> DTR -- from the terminal to the modem to tell the modem the Data Terminal
> was ready.  Now used for CW or PTT.
>
> DSR -- From the modem to the terminal to indicate the modem was ready
> (generally power on).
>
> The Bell 103 could send data only in one direction at a time so RTS and
> CTS were included to control the flow of the data.
>
> RTS -- Request to Send from the terminal to the modem to request the line.
>
> CTS -- Clear to send from the modem to the terminal to say the line was
> not busy and to go ahead with sending the data.
>
> RTS and CTS were also used to control the data flow from a fast device to
> a slow device.  I think there were some kenwood radios that used this
> scheme.
>
> DCD -- Data Carrier Detected was used for the modem to tell the terminal
> that the carrier from the other data set was being generated (the phone
> line was working).
>
> RI -- Ring Indicator asserted by the modem when it heard a ringing signal
> at the other end of the telephone line.
>
> As I remember it.
>
> Cheers,
> Fred KE7X
>
>
>
>
> 
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Don Wilhelm 
> Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 10:04 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are
> occupied
>
> The computer is the DTE device, and those devices designed to connect to
> the computer via the serial port are normally wired as DCE devices.
>
> The original thought when the IBM PC serial port was designed was that
> the PC would be used as a terminal connected to a modem, thus the
> decision was that the PC should be a DTE - and for the first several
> years the PC was used only as a terminal device.  Yes, I was involved
> during those early days, but not as a part of that decision making
> process - I was involved with the IBM PC modems.  My manager said I had
> "M" engraved on my forehead.
>
> Now we have the situation where the computer is the controller.  It
> would be very confusing to change the wiring of the computer, so it
> remains as a DTE, and connecting devices (while not modems) are
> configured as a DCE,
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 7/8/2018 10:15 PM, Cady, Fred wrote:
> > Hi Andy,
> >
> > Don is correct.
> >
> > Here is a little blurb that might help.
> >
> >
> http://www.ke7x.com/home/miscellaneous-k3-information/unexpected-agc-behavior/rs232-interfaces-1
> >
> >
> > 
> > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net 
> on behalf of Don Wilhelm 
> > Sent: Sunday, July 8, 2018 7:21 PM
> > To: ANDY DURBIN; elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] RS232 xcvr control when serial ports are
> occupied
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > No TXD is TXD all the way through the path.  Yes, the DTE TXD will have
> > the drivers, and the DCE will have receivers, but it is TXD from end to
> > end.  RXD is the other way around because the DCE drives that line.
> > Trsnsmit and receive are named with respect to the DTE.
> >
> > 73,
> > Don W3FPR
> >
> > On 7/8/2018 8:39 PM, ANDY DURBIN wrote:
> >> "TXD is really pin 3."
> >>
> >>
> >> One end's TXD is the other end's RXD. That's obvious to those who have
> used RS-233 for a while but if someone needs to ask then it may not be
> obvious. Find the TXD pin on the source and connect it the RXD pin on the
> destination. Sometimes it's easier to look with a scope than to try to
> understand the documentation.
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Re: [Elecraft] Art of Electronics

[Dave Fugleberg]

Schraeder was the text for my Communications class in tech school in the
early 80s.
One requirement to pass the course was to earn the FCC General Class
Radiotelephone license. I believe nearly everyone in the class did. It also
made it pretty easy to upgrade my ham ticket from Novice to Advanced during
that time.
I still have my copy and still refer to it from time to time. The
fundamentals never change.
On Sat, May 26, 2018 at 9:16 AM K8TE  wrote:

> Phil,
>
> Yes, I'm catching up on e-mail.
>
> Your description of physics cirriculum brought me back to my high school
> physics which was called "PSSC" based on the work done at MIT and described
> in:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Science_Study_Committee.  I
> had
> been licensed a couple of years by then (1962) and found PSSC physics fit
> me
> to a tee!
>
> My bachelor studies in vocational education decades later showed how the
> approached used by the PSSC was smart and useful, something being
> "re-discovered" today by educators who often are behind their peers.  The
> Wikipedia article above includes a mention of Heathkit's products that were
> modified to fit the PSSC model.
>
> In between high school and my vocational education experience I taught
> electronics for Eastern New Mexico University while stationed at Canon
> AFB.
> I used the text by Robert Schraeder "Electronic Communication" which one
> can
> find used today.  I lent mine to my Air Force boss and bought another
> recently.  Schraeder, like so few, has the ability to write clearly about
> difficult concepts that makes them seem simple.  That text made my teaching
> much easier!  "The Art of Electronics" will certainly fit into my reading
> schedule, in which I am also way behind.
>
> 73, Bill, K8TE
>
> "My undergraduate degree is Physics and back in the 1960s, my physics
> curriculum included a similar course study.  This was all about using lab
> equipment but also making the necessary little electronic gadgets that were
> important to work in a physics research laboratory.  When I took my course,
> the book "The Art of Electronics" did not exist and we never had a text
> book
> in our course."
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[Dave Fugleberg]

Clay, the individual signal with many of these digital modes modes is
actually quite narrow, on the order of tens of hertz. It's just that by
convention, everybody uses one SSB frequency for a given mode (such as FT-8
on 14.074). That means there may be dozens of QSOs going on in the
equivalent bandwidth of one SSB conversation. The computer decodes all the
signals in the receiver passband all at once, but you need to pick a spot
within that bandwidth to place your transmit signal.
Obviously if you pick a spot outside the transmitter's audio band pass,
things won't work too well.
That's not really an issue with FT8 if the software is properly configured,
as it will automatically shift the VFO slightly on transmit to keep your
chosen transmit audio frequency in the sweet spot of the transmitter audio
bandpass.
Fortunately, this tends to keep all that FT8 activity within about a 4 kHz
slice of the band, so the rest of us can easily avoid it if we choose to.
On Sat, May 19, 2018 at 10:00 PM Clay Autery  wrote:

> M.  ESSB can transmit with right at 4 kHz bandwidth...
>
> I can't imagine that something can't be done in firmware to make it
> possible in a digital mode
>
> WHY are they allowing digital modes to have such a huge bandwidth?
> Seems counter-intuitive to me, but I am not a digital guy.
>
> 73,
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> On 05/19/18 07:07, Ed W0YK wrote:
> > That's  fine for decode, but transmit uses the 2.8 kHz filter.
> > 73,Ed W0YK
> >  Original message From: "Joe Subich, W4TV" <
> li...@subich.com> Date: 5/19/18  8:01 AM  (GMT-05:00) To:
> elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4
> > Ed,
> >
> >
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Pie rack K-Line

[Dave Fugleberg]

Very nice looking setup!
I use a similar rack from home depot which holds the K3, P3, four
transverters and amps for VHF / UHF, and associated SWR meters, etc. About
360 days of the year it sits on the desk in the shack connected to the
shack computer and antennas. When it's time for a VHF+ contest, the whole
thing relocates to the back seat of my truck for rover operations.
Works very well. I liked it so much that I bought a second rack for some
other stuff in the shack (rotor controllers, antennas switches, etc.).
On Mon, Mar 26, 2018 at 9:35 PM kevinr  wrote:

> Room for expansion too.  Very Cool.
>
> Kevin.  KD5ONS
>
>
> On 03/26/2018 06:36 PM, Mike Markowski wrote:
> > I found an economical way to go vertical with my Elecraft gear and
> > save some desk space.  It's slightly off-beat - which suits me :-) -
> > and I'm very happy with both cost and quality.  For any also
> > interested in stacking their gear without the expense of rack mounting:
> >
> >http://udel.edu/~mm/ham/elecraft/rack/
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Re: [Elecraft] New Sub RX

[Dave Fugleberg]

I’ve always had a single receiver, modest antennas, and 100 watts, and have
worked many of the DXpeditions over the years. However, it seems like it’s
getting more difficult lately to figure out the pileups just by listening.
I don’t know if it’s the ‘constant callers’ that keep calling while the DX
is working someone else, or the fact that some of the DX is hopping around
without a discernible pattern (perhaps clicking on a panadapter to work the
station that’s in the clear at that moment). Maybe my skills at reading the
pileup are no longer sufficient (not that I have ever been a DX expert).
Anyhow, I’m thinking about trying some of these newer ideas like a local
skimmer and/or a sub receiver.
Just for fun last night, I tried listening to the 3C0W pileup with my KX2,
using the ‘dual watch’ capability that’s built in. I found it was pretty
easy to find the station working the DX that way, so maybe a sub receiver
for the K3 would be worthwhile.
Maybe I’ll have to visit one of my friends who already has the sub to try
it out.
My main (self-imposed) criteria for DXCC is that I work them with my own
station from one location (here in the RF black hole of the Midwest). To
each his own I guess!
On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:12 PM Dave Sublette  wrote:

> I worked the XR0YD on 40M with 5 watts, one call.  The KX3 is a cool rig!
>
> K4TO
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 5:02 PM, Wes Stewart 
> wrote:
>
> > I still use my ears.
> >
> > And I don't use skimmer, automatic tuning via spots, remote stations,
> > etc.  I also have only a single receiver K3S, KPA500 and very modest
> > antennas. (See my QRZ page)  Yet for example in the last few days, I've
> > managed to work XR0YD on all bands and modes they've operated on that
> > count*, except for 40-meter SSB.  (25 of 33 slots)
> >
> > I do have a K-Pod but for me the knob just gets in the way of the buttons
> > and I never use it.
> >
> > * I broke down and worked them on a couple of slots on FT8 just for the
> > heck of it, but I won't claim them.
> >
> > Wes
> >
> > On 3/13/2018 3:07 AM, Bill Rowlett wrote:
> >
> >> What happened to using your ears to find the station being worked?
> >>
> >> 73 Bill  KC4IM
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Elecraft KX2 compared with the latest "Ultra Portable" (?)

[Dave Fugleberg]

For what it's worth... I did roughly the same comparison a year ago, and
then sold my 817 to partially fund the KX2 the following week. I don't
regret it. The KX2 is hands down superior in every way for the bands that
the two rigs have in common.

I too would like to have a VHF/ UHF all mode portable rig, and while it
would be cool to have that in the KX2, I'd be just as happy if it were a
separate radio . I have the 144, 222, and 432 Elecraft transverters, and
their seamless integration with the K3 makes them a joy to use.
A small standalone V/U all mode full duplex rig would be slick for
satellite though.

One other place I've seen the 817 get a lot of use is as a 144 MHz IF rig
for 10GHz use. I know several guys that own one just for that. If I ever
get the itch to build up a 10 GHz rig, I'm guessing the KX3 with the 2m
option would make a great IF. Anyone out there doing that?
On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 7:37 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 3/1/2018 4:23 PM, kevino z wrote:
> > Not sure why there are so many haters out there.
>
> What hate?  Disagreement is not hate. Disagreement is I have a different
> opinion or know more or less about something than you do.
>
> When comparing to those other rigs, bear in mind that 1) Elecraft is a
> MUCH smaller company than the ones that build those el-cheapo,
> do-everything boxes, and simply doesn't have the resources to make too
> many products; 2) the performance of Elecraft rigs blows away those
> el-cheapo rigs on bands they cover for features, performance, weight,
> current draw, and ease of use; and 3) Elecraft's fundamental philosophy
> is quality, not cheap.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S and Winkeyer

[Dave Fugleberg]

DTR keying works well with the K3, but as Tom pointed out, it does not play
well with virtual COM ports. Since I started using Win4K3, I’ve had to use
alternate means.
I’m planning to go with a Winkeyer type device for all the reasons
mentioned by the others.
I recently found the Nanokeyer project, which is a Arduino based Winkeyer
clone built on the code from K3NG. I’ve got one knocked together on the
workbench and it seems to work well, so I’m going to give it a workout and
see if it meets my needs, as soon as I find time to move it from a mass of
jumper wires and clip leads to something resembling a completed piece of
equipment.
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 12:09 AM Brian Hunt  wrote:

> You can use DTR keying as described in the thread or you can use the "KEY"
> macro in N1MM+ via the serial port CAT interface. I use DTR with my K3 but
> since DTR keying isn't implemented on the KX2, I use the macro. When using
> the macro the speed is that set on the K3 keyer and can be interrupted with
> the paddle. I have an example .mc file I can send if interested.
>
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
>
> > On Feb 21, 2018, at 17:52, Bill DeVore  wrote:
> >
> > I’d like to start contesting and plan on using N1MM with my K3S. Is
> there any advantage on adding a Winkeyer to the mix?
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] CQ WW CW report (pedestrian mobile with 4' whip)

[Dave Fugleberg]

I found that a binder clip (normally used to clip a stack of papers
together) works well for that purpose. I have a right angle BNC connector
and the MFJ whip. The clip grips the right angle connector and sits
vertically on the table.

73 de W0ZF
On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 11:56 AM Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Rich wrote:
>
> > Any possibility of offering the anti-rotation bail that is part of the
> AX1 kit as a separate item for purchase?
>
> Rich,
>
> A very simple but effective anti-rotation device for right-angle-mounted
> whips can be made from a piece of rubber tubing or cylindrical extrusion. A
> short length can be wedged in between the whip’s loading coil and the right
> side of the radio for a compression fit.
>
> For MFJ18xxT series whips, I use a 3/4” length of 1/2" diameter tubing.
>
> Wayne
> N6KR
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

[Dave Fugleberg]

Understood.
The T1 manual indicates that you can manually initiate tuning remotely by
pulling the ring of J3 to ground, so running an extra control line from the
operating position to the remote T1 could work.
It also details the protocol for sending band info to the T1 to recall the
previous tuner settings on a per band basis. The special cable for the
FT-817 uses this.
The KX2 can be configured to send the current band out its serial port as a
CAT command. I imagine one could build a device using an Arduino or similar
to grab that CAT band data and send it to the T1 when requested Might
be a fun project for someday. So many project ideas, so little time...
73 de W0ZF
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 8:11 AM Barry N1EU  wrote:

> Yes, different use case.  All my KX's have the internal tuner.  But I was
> thinking of an antenna configuration which would benefit from having a T1
> mounted away from the operating position.
>
> 73, Barry N1EU
>
> On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 9:00 AM, Dave Fugleberg 
> wrote:
>
> > Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2,
> since
> > I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the
> KX2. I
> > have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
> > And it works very well.
> > Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
> > different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
> > tuner is the way to go.
> > On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi <
> heinz.baerts...@bluewin.ch>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It is correct understood, Barry.
> >>
> >> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> > Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
> >> >
> >> > I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work
> with
> >> my
> >> > KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> >> > re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> >> > setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the
> >> KX2
> >> > or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune
> process
> >> but
> >> > it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I
> >> wouldn't
> >> > be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
> >> only
> >> > do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
> >> with
> >> > an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable
> is
> >> > NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
> >> >
> >> > Do I have this right?
> >> >
> >> > Thanks & 73,
> >> > Barry N1EU
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Re: [Elecraft] Using T1 with KX2 or KX3

[Dave Fugleberg]

Barry, I went through that thought exercise before I ordered my KX2, since
I already own a T1. In the end I ordered the internal tuner with the KX2. I
have not regretted it for a minute. No extra cables, batteries, or fuss.
And it works very well.
Since you're concerned about remoting the tuner, your use case might be
different than mine, but for a grab and go portable radio, the internal
tuner is the way to go.
On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 5:02 AM Heinz Bärtschi 
wrote:

> It is correct understood, Barry.
>
> 73, Heinz HB9BCB
>
>
>
> > Am 15.11.2017 um 11:44 schrieb Barry N1EU :
> >
> > I'm looking for confirmation on how I understand the T1 would work with
> my
> > KX2 or KX3.  When I change bands, I will need to go through a manual
> > re-tune process.  The memories in the T1 won't automatically recall a
> > setting based on the newly transmitted frequency.  In the case of the KX2
> > or KX3, I understand that the memories may speed up the re-tune process
> but
> > it will still require me pressing the Tune button manually and I wouldn't
> > be able to mount the T1 remote to the operating position.  The T1 will
> only
> > do an automatic recall of settings without a manual re-tune when used
> with
> > an FT817 with the special interface cable.  A special interface cable is
> > NOT available for the KX2 or KX3.
> >
> > Do I have this right?
> >
> > Thanks & 73,
> > Barry N1EU
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile from 117 VAC

[Dave Fugleberg]

My friend had a jeep wrangler (2012 model IIRC ) that we used for VHF
roving with no issues. When we tried the same vehicle on HF, some bands
were ok and some caused havoc with the vehicle electronics. Transmit on 15m
at 100 watts triggered the wipers... 40m lit up every indicator on the
dash.
We switched to my 2015 F-150 with almost all the options, and have no such
problems. Same rig, same antenna. However, the truck creates some hash in
the HF receiver. So, there can be a lot of differences between vehicles.
On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:48 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> In my previous 2003 Chevy Silverado, I had my TS-850 on a picnic table,
> running off the truck battery with jumper cables to the PowerPole
> distribution block and the engine idling.  As soon as I sent the first
> CW, both front seats moved totally forward and then refused to move
> back, steering wheel now blocking entrance.  Antenna was a dipole in the
> tree, hanging over the truck.  Disconnecting the battery cable for a
> minute or so rebooted the seat computer and it began working. A 40W 440
> MHz transmitter affected the cruise control in a 1991 Ford Ranger.
> Fortunately, it just disengaged it rather than setting the speed target
> at 120 mph.
>
> I got a 2017 Honda Ridgeline last Feb, I'm still working through
> understanding the "UI" for it, but given how much automation is
> involved, I will not put HF mobile in it.  Automobiles have changed
> since Dad let me put the PE-103 powered 10m transmitter in the trunk of
> the family Plymouth.  The seat computer in the Chevy [one of seven in
> the truck not counting whatever was in the radio] had 320 KB of ROM, 64
> KB RAM, and cycled at 100 ns, all just to move the seats back and
> forth.  The Apollo Guidance Computer had 32 KB of 16-bit hardwired core
> memory, 2 KB of read-write core, and cycled at 10 ms for most
> instructions, to go to the moon and back.
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
>
> On 10/9/2017 2:01 PM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
> > So even if I conquer all the challenges of bonding and antenna-making
> and all the rest, there is still the risk that HF RF will affect some
> processor on the vehicle at the worst possible time and place?  How do we
> deal with that sort of problem?  Operate QRP only?
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile from 117 VAC

[Dave Fugleberg]

If your intent is to operate portable (buddipole in a parking lot) as
opposed to mobile, then none of the issues you described about bonding,
ferrites, vehicle electrical systems, etc come into play anyhow. Just use
the 12v from the vehicle battery (fused of course).
You can operate quite awhile that way even with the vehicle turned off to
eliminate electrical noise from the vehicle.
All built in inverters that I've seen in vehicles require the vehicle to be
running. Most are relatively limited in power handling as well. If you do
decide to plug a power supply into that vehicle inverter, make sure the
inverter can handle the load. I don't see that it makes much sense to go
that route, though.

On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 12:10 PM Jim Brown  wrote:

> On 10/9/2017 9:56 AM, Rick WA6NHC wrote:
> > Mobile HF is an art.
>
> No, it is SCIENCE.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRPlay as panadapter

[Dave Fugleberg]

You raise some great points, Ian. The choice of which type of panadapter to
use, as well as how to configure and integrate it, depends greatly on what
your purpose is for using one in the first place. We certainly have an
abundance of riches in the choices available today!
You've inspired me to spend some more time tinkering with the RSP1 and
HDSDR. I use my K3 with transverters for VHF+ contesting as well, although
I'm usually a rover station so monitor space is very limited...
You said you connect the SDR at the 28 MHZ transverter IF... Do you simply
add it to the IF daisy chain on the receive side?
Thanks for the thoughtful response. I learn a lot from this list.
73 de W0ZF
On Sat, Sep 30, 2017 at 4:12 AM Ian White  wrote:

> N7WS wrote:
>
> >
> >"SpectraVue software is the only SDR software I've ever liked.  It
> interfaces
> >with the K3 seamlessly.   Every other program I've tried has been
> installed
> >and
> >quickly uninstalled.  Sometimes more than once, usually having me ask
> >myself,
> >"Self, what were you thinking?" before uninstalling again. Apparently,
> >programmers do not think like normal people do and try to turn a
> relatively
> >simple tool into a video game. " Sorry Lyle:-)
> >
>
> For measurement purposes I love the SDR-IQ and SpectraVue; but operating
> and contesting are a different application.
>
> When operating, I focus almost entirely on the waterfall display because
> that presents a time-history of everything that has been happening for the
> past several minutes across the entire displayed bandwidth. The waterfall
> is a huge information resource. On an empty band the waterfall shows
> instantly where new stations are popping up, while on a full band it shows
> if there are any free channels and how long they have been free. Meanwhile
> the color shading shows which signals are strongest, and instantly
> identifies which ones are spreading more than they should.
>
> Compared with that wealth of operating information from the waterfall, I
> find the spectrum-analyzer display is almost worthless (but remember we're
> talking about here operating, as distinct from making measurements).
>
> To extract the maximum possible information from the waterfall, I normally
> maximize the vertical size, aiming for a time-span of 3-5 minutes. The
> spectrum analyzer display is always minimized (and if the display software
> allows, I get rid of it entirely). When operating, the waterfall display is
> front-and-center on a wide-screen monitor. For most modes, only the small
> log input windows need to share display space at the bottom of the screen,
> and all other operating windows are displayed on a second monitor. RTTY is
> the only exception, where multiple decoder windows take over the center
> screen and the waterfall has to take second place.
>
> I currently have two K3s with different types of spectrum/waterfall
> displays. The HF/50MHz setup uses a P3, which of course has the advantage
> of very tight integration with the K3. However, I do find that the P3
> requires the SVGA adapter to display the wealth of detail that the
> waterfall has to  offer. The P3's own screen is bright and clear, but is
> simply too small (in terms of pixels). And unfortunately  the P3/SVGA has a
> number of disadvantages compared with the SDR-PC competition. There is an
> issue with the P3SVGA's limited color palette which tends to suppress
> weaker signals. The P3 also lacks any method to QSY *quickly* across a wide
> frequency span to grab fleeting DX opportunities on a nearly empty band.
>
> The other K3 is used with external VHF/UHF transverters, and for this
> application I decided not to buy another P3 but to play the market of
> separate SDRs and PC software.
>
> The SDR is attached to the K3 at the transverter IF frequency of 28MHz,
> which gives much better display sensitivity than the 8.2MHz IF. For VHF/UHF
> contesting and DXing it is essential to display everything that lives and
> breathes across the entire "contest sub-band", which in Europe extends over
> at least 250kHz. Important multipliers tend to lurk at both the top and
> bottom ends of that range, so 200kHz is not acceptable. Several good SDRs
> with 190-200kHz maximum bandwidths, including the SDR-IQ and the P3, had to
> be ruled out for that reason. After some searching I found that the SDRplay
> RSP-1 delivered the best combination of dynamic range, available spectrum
> width (far more than I need) and value for money.
>
> Again after some experimentation, I settled on the HDSDR software, which
> gives a very readable and sensitive display on the large screen and
> provides most of the facilities of a second receiver. Integration with the
> K3 was not easy to configure, but after some work it now has all the
> frequency agility that is so lacking in the P3. The SDR frequency is linked
> to VFO B on the K3, and can be tuned using any combination of the VFO B
> knob, point-and-click on the display (rolling the mouse wheel for fi

Re: [Elecraft] SDRPlay as panadapter

[Dave Fugleberg]

If what you want is a good panadapter for the K3, the P3 is hard to beat,
in my opinion.

I started my panadapter journey on the K3 the cheapest way possible - a
softrock receiver on the IF, fed to the internal sound card on my PC. I was
never able to tame the large 'spike' at the IF frequency.  I then switched
to an external USB sound card  (Xonar U7) which was better, but still not
great. Then i got a SDRPlay RSP1, which makes a pretty decent panadapter,
but was not really happy with any of the SDR software that i tried (and I
tried several).  Finally, I built a P3 kit. The P3 requires far less
fiddling around that any of the other things I used before.  I was
concerned about the small display, but found it perfectly adequate for me.
Your mileage may vary.

I did hook up the RSP1 to the IF Out of the P3 to try it with Win4K3, with
the idea of getting 'point and click QSY' with the mouse. That worked, but
I found that I didn't really use it, so I'm back to just using the P3.
I guess I like the fact that it just works - no need to launch software,
mess with configuration of SDR options, fiddle with calibration to get the
frequency on the screen aligned with the frequency on the K3, etc.

I have not tried SpectraVue as suggested by N7WS...perhaps i should. I
found HDSDR and even Rocky just too much bother just to get a useful
panadapter. I do not have the SVGA option, so cannot comment on that.

My only gripe with the P3 is the way it implements the QSY function. You
need to move the marker with that tiny knob, then push the knob to make the
VFO jump to the marker. I often wind up bumping the rotational position of
the knob when pushing it in, and/or pushing the whole unit backwards on the
desk.  So, I seldom use that function.  Instead, I move the P3 VFOB
indicator to the signal of interest with the VFOB knob on the K3, and hit
A/B on the radio to jump there.  If I could manipulate the markers and the
'QSY to marker' function with a KPod, I'd consider buying one.

On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 8:18 AM Wes Stewart  wrote:

> I guess I have to repeat myself:
>
> "SpectraVue software is the only SDR software I've ever liked.  It
> interfaces
> with the K3 seamlessly.   Every other program I've tried has been
> installed and
> quickly uninstalled.  Sometimes more than once, usually having me ask
> myself,
> "Self, what were you thinking?" before uninstalling again. Apparently,
> programmers do not think like normal people do and try to turn a relatively
> simple tool into a video game. " Sorry Lyle:-)
>
> And I did know how to turn the MF filter on and off.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
>
> On 9/27/2017 8:43 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
> > Hi Wes,
> >
> > There are probably at least a half dozen pieces of software written to
> use the
> > output of SDRs in the way that suits individual hams. SDRUno is the one
> they
> > paid someone for, but before I gave up on the radio, I'd try the
> others.  Most
> > (if not all) are freeware. One of the first I'd look at is Simon Brown's
> > contribution (he was the original author of HRD when it was freeware,
> sold it
> > to current owners when he got tired of answering support questions.
> >
> > Another issue may be that you haven't figured out how to switch in the
> BCB
> > filter. That's another issue with all of this stuff -- documentation,
> user
> > interface that not even the programmer's mother could love, etc.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] New product idea for Elecraft...?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Have you looked at Win4K3?
I realize it's not the hardware solution you wanted, but it does bring out
all the controls to a PC screen so you can point and click at pretty much
any of them rather than going through the menus on the radio...

I suppose one could build exactly what you proposed using a box of knobs,
switches, and meters connected to an Arduino or similar microcontroller,
which would talk to the radio via the serial port.

I actually did build a controller of sorts using a Arduino nano stuffed
inside an old optical mouse. I used the mouse wheel and buttons and
assigned them specific serial commands to send to the K3. Works pretty well
for its intended purpose. An expansion of that idea could likely give you
most of what you want.
On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 8:09 PM Byron Servies  wrote:

> Hi there!
>
> Isn't this the niche the K-Pod was supposed to fill?  Fully
> programmable external control with additional outputs for station
> control?
>
> 73, Byron N6NUL
> (sorry for the dup, Emory)
>
> On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Emory Schley  wrote:
> >
> > Ron, AC7AC, wrote, under another subject heading: "I'm not bothered by
> choosing between a dozen switches but sorting through half a dozen menu
> items to change one gives me a headache."
> >
> > That pretty much sums up my attitude as well, and I've heard other hams–
> MANY other hams–  complain about menus, but I don't recall ever hearing
> anyone complain about excess knobs, buttons, dials, etc. Reading Ron's
> thoughts made me wonder out loud, why can't Elecraft or some third party
> make a "magic box" that would be completely impotent by itself, but with
> the capability to mate up to one of these small miniaturized wonders like
> the KX2 or KX3, and which would contain oodles of manual controls for
> virtually every function the parent rig is capable of providing?
> >
> > This would NOT impact the normal functioning of the parent rig, but
> would act as an accessory for those who eschew menus and such, and who like
> their rigs bigger, bulkier and in more traditional formats. I envision a
> box of switches, buttons, knobs, perhaps even gauges that would be
> cable-fed (or wi-fied) from the little parent rig sitting behind the magic
> box. Its size would be whatever was necessary to accommodate the design and
> would resemble a normal-sized base station. You could conceivably have a
> separate control for each function the parent rig provides, or if logic
> dictated, then several controls might be multi-purpose.
> >
> > Then an op could have the best of both worlds. He/she could use his/her
> KX2/KX3 as a portable rig in the normal way, but when returned to the home
> station, it could be plugged back into the magic box to power it in a more
> expansive and convenient manner.
> >
> > Elecraft seems to always be on the lookout for new products. Here's one
> they might be able to put on the market, up and running, quickly because
> most of the engineering has already been worked out for the parent rig.
> >
> > Emory Schley
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Re: [Elecraft] Dusting off the old K3 & Considering a KAT3A

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim, I think that last point is often overloaded and bears repeating. With
rigs like the KX2 or KX3, it's a common practice to connect the radiating
element directly to the rig and put the other end as high as possible. In
that case, 'SWR' is kinda meaningless, as the built in 'ATU' is actually
matching the output to the impedance at the antenna feed point.
The KX2 does this amazingly well, and I'm glad I sprung for that option.
In any other case, I tend to shy away from built in tuners or tuners in the
shack, and instead use a remote automatic coupler at the feed point (I use
the SGC 230 at home).
Good conversation.

On Thu, Aug 31, 2017 at 1:25 AM Jim Brown  wrote:

> Please don't perpetuate that myth, Bill.  Tuners do NOT reduce the SWR
> unless they're at the antenna end of a transmission line. The SWR exists
> on the transmission line, and it is determined ENTIRELY by the match
> between the transmission line and the load.
>
> What tuners at the rig do is get the rig to put power into the tuner
> (and hopefully, onto the transmission line).  If the SWR is high without
> the tuner, it is equally high WITH the tuner. Depending on the cable,
> the frequency, and the SWR, much of the power that the rig puts into the
> tuner gets to the transmission line, but is turned into heat by the SWR
> in the line and doesn't get to the antenna.
>
> A better way to talk and think about this is to say that the tuner can
> match a wide variety of loads to the transmitter sufficiently well that
> the rig can pump the maximum power from its output terminals, whether
> it's feeding a short wet string or a nice long wire we've launched into
> a tree. And if there's no transmission line, SWR has no meaning!  So SWR
> is the wrong way to talk and think about it.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
>
> On 8/30/2017 10:15 PM, Bill Frantz wrote:
> > My experience with the tuners in both the K3 and KX3 are that they
> > will reach an acceptable SWR with anything. I always check the antenna
> > when they take a long time to reach a match. (I.e. lots of clicking.)
> > Most of the time I find I am trying to match an open antenna connection.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2 added to Sherwood's list

[Dave Fugleberg]

Not 'hand held', but I did use the MFJ telescoping whip for 20m with a
right angle BNC adapter with the KX2 next to me on a park bench a couple
weeks ago and worked AZ from MN. With the internal battery, that whip, and
some wire for a counterpoise, it takes almost no time to set up.
On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 9:34 PM Phil Hystad  wrote:

> >
> > Question for KX2 users: Have you tried it hand-held with a whip yet?
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
>
>
> I haven’t tried hand-held with a whip antenna yet but only because I
> figured
> it would be a bit awkward trying to operate the paddles.
>
> 73, phil, K7PEH
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[Elecraft] W2 watt meter- multiple sensors question

[Dave Fugleberg]

I see that the W2 can support up to 2 remote sensors, selectable from the
front panel.
Is it possible to support more (say 4 total) with some kind of external
switching arrangement?
I have a K3 with three XV series transverters (144, 222, 432). Each
transverter feeds a power amp and connects to an antenna for that band. I
currently use separate external meters at the output of each amplifier. I'd
like to replace those with a single meter that can monitor whichever band
I'm transmitting on.
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Re: [Elecraft] Kx3 rfi when power set to 0watt

[Dave Fugleberg]

Welcome to ham radio, Eben!
As others have said, it's pretty normal to hear your transmitter on a
receiver that's right next to it, even with the power turned way down.
About your difficult making contacts on 80m... Your antenna system (type of
antenna, height, feedline ), mode, and time of day are all going to have a
big influence. Can you elaborate on those?
On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:06 PM Fred Jensen  wrote:

> Welcome to the hobby Eben! To your question first: I'm not sure what you
> mean by "produced QRM," but if you mean audio feedback [various
> squeals], yes, I'd expect that a receiver close to the KX3 is going to
> hear it even with the power at zero.
>
> Regarding difficulty in making contact(s)on 80, what are you using for
> an antenna?  How are you feeding power to it?
>
> 73,
>
> Fred ("Skip") K6DGW
> Sparks NV USA
> Washoe County DM09dn
>
> On 7/21/2017 1:47 PM, Eben Bruyns wrote:
> > I'm a new ham and this is my first radio...
> >
> > So far I've managed to make contact on 80m but it leaves a lot to be
> desired.
> >
> > While messing around I tuned a portable receiver to the same frequency
> > as the kx3. I had the kx3 power set to 0 watts and keyed the mic. The
> > receiver produced qrm every time I did this.
> >
> > Is this normal?
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] KX2AT2 vs T1 Tuner?

[Dave Fugleberg]

I asked this exact question on this reflector in March, and got some good
and useful replies. You can Google for that discussion on Nabble to see
those technical answers.
Bottom line is that both are fine tuners. I know I could have saved some
money by using the T1 I already own, but in the end I opted to order my KX2
with the KXAT2, and I'm glad I did. It works great, and it's more
convenient than messing with an extra box and coax jumper.
I think the choice comes down to how you want to spend your money, more
than the merits of one tuner over the other, because either one will do the
job very well. I will say that having the internal tuner and an internal
battery makes the KX2 a real grab and go radio!
I'm still using paddles that I already had, but I think the KXPD2 may be in
my future...
73 de W0ZF
On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 9:53 PM James Bennett  wrote:

> Thinking very seriously about purchasing a KX2. I have a T1 that I had
> used a few years ago with another QRP rig. Obviously it will work with the
> KX2, but I'm wondering how it compares in performance with the internal KX2
> unit. Is the T1 as quick to find a match? Is it as quick to pull in a
> memorized L/C combo when a band change happens? If there is a general
> consensus that the T1 is on an equal level with the KXAT2, I can save my
> $179 and use it for the KXPD2 paddle.
>
> Comments?
>
> Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> Folsom, CA
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Re: [Elecraft] Flash mob experiment, 21040 +/- 5 kHz, now until 2100 Z

[Dave Fugleberg]

A very quiet mob here in MN... :(
On the other hand, 6m is pretty decent and I've worked 68 stations and 35
grids in the past couple hours with my K3 barefoot...
73 de W0ZF
On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 3:17 PM Dave Sublette  wrote:

> Hearing one weak sig under the noise (and there is NO noise)  Called CQ 3
> times — no answer.  50 Watts, Dipole Location on highest point in the
> county.  KX3/KXPA100Sorry folks.  No propagation here.
>
> Dave, K4TO
> > On Jul 15, 2017, at 4:04 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Based on info from dxmaps.com, 15 meters should be open. Hearing a few
> signals.
> >
> > If you’d like to participate in a 15 meter “flash mob” experiment,
> please drop by on 21040 +/- 5 kHz. Initially, callsigns ending in A-L
> listen, M-Z call CQ (myself included).
> >
> > Not a contest, no rules, no award credit, just an excuse to get on the
> air.
> >
> > 73,
> > Wayne
> > N6KR
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Dave Fugleberg]

Jim, I and several of my friends have various models of the Pro Set, and
every one I've seen had the 1/8 inch plugs for both mic and phones, but
perhaps some models are different. Mine has an adapter for the phones to
convert to 1/4 inch when needed- it's low profile and adds very little
length to the plug. I seldom use the adapter, as I prefer to use the rear
jacks on the K3 and keep the front panel clear of wires.
73 de W0ZF
On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 9:06 PM Jim Rhodes  wrote:

> Hmm, mine has a 1/4 inch stereo plug for phones.
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 8:39 PM, Dave Fugleberg 
> wrote:
>
>> The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
>> inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
>> without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
>> you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
>> In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic
>> (front
>> or rear) you want to use.
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:
>>
>> > I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
>> > Elite
>> > boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this
>> mic
>> > on
>> > a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
>> > mic
>> > input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
>> > Mike, K5MP
>> > Boca Raton, Fl
>> >
>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Using Heil Pro Set Elite boom mic on K3.. what adapter is required?

[Dave Fugleberg]

The  Heil pro sets have  a 1/8 inch stereo plug for the phones and a1/8
inch mono plug for the mic. Those will plug right into the back of the K3
without an adapter. If you prefer using the front panel mic connector,
you'll need the Heil AD-1-K adapter.
In either case, don't forget to set the menu selection for which mic (front
or rear) you want to use.

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:55 PM mjpilgrim  wrote:

> I am soon to be the owner of a used K3.  I presently use a Heil Pro Set
> Elite
> boom mic for my IC-7600 and want to know if anyone here has used this mic
> on
> a K3, and if so,  what adapter did you use to connect to the round 8-pin
> mic
> input on the K3?  I'd like to hear your ideas.  Thanks
> Mike, K5MP
> Boca Raton, Fl
>
>
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA

[Dave Fugleberg]

I second that. Having tried a couple other panadapter solutions I found the
P3 to be the most reliable with the least amount of hassle. The one
shortcoming in my mind is using the tiny knob to QSY... Full mouse support
would be welcome.
I've found that the small screen works better than anticipated, so have not
added the SVGA option. Maybe someday.
Another worthy contender is the built in SDRPlay support in Win4K3 Suite.
It, too is pretty much plug and play, and gives you the point and click
mouse support. I have mine connected to the IF output of the P3, and can
use them in tandem when desired.
On Fri, May 26, 2017 at 10:41 AM George Thornton <
gthorn...@thorntonmostullaw.com> wrote:

> I have tried other computer based panadapters and I now have the P3 with
> SVGA.
>
> I found that mediating through a computer using a sound card creates
> configuration issues and results in occasional operating headaches.
>
> By contrast, the P3 is specialized hardware and connection is more
> reliable and consistent.  I spend less time fussing with equipment to make
> sure it is set up correctly, and more time actually working with the
> spectrum images on the screen.
>
> I have not used a full SDR radio.
>
> I did find clicking with a mouse to change frequencies was helpful, but
> the convenience and reliability of the P3 to me far outweighed computer
> based panadapter solutions overall.
>
> I also appreciate the options available for the P3.  I use the SVGA
> feature and a monitor to enhance audience viewing at my Field Day station.
> The TX monitor has also been useful in viewing and diagnosing transmission
> signals as well as better visualizing SWR and power output measurements.
>
>
>
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Jorge Diez - CX6VM
> Sent: Friday, May 26, 2017 6:14 AM
> To: j...@johnjeanantiqueradio.com
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mouse and P3 SVGA
>
> look at it http://www.elecraft.com/P3/p3.htm
>
> then decide if its what you are looking for. If not, you can try other
> options
>
> 73,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
>
> 2017-05-26 9:25 GMT-03:00 John K9UWA  >:
>
> > If the P3 with SVGA had the Point and Shoot selectable VFO's I would
> > purchase a P3.
> > John k9uwa
> >
> >
> > >> Do you suppose we will ever be able to use the mouse with the P3 and
> > SVGA
> > >> monitor like the Flex people do? That would sure be nice. 73
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks for the info!
I'll look for Terry at Dayton next week.
This looks like exactly what I'm looking to do.
Dave
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 3:10 PM Dana Shtun  wrote:

> Dave
> I came across this from Terry K8ZN o
> f Directiv
> e Systems , and the Grid Pirates.
> This was the “missing link” for VHF UHF!
> The elecraft external band switch is ALSO very capable and will work on HF
> or VHF/UHF, but it requires more hardware, which you can
> buy online, it just gets messy…
>
> With a bit of modification Terry’s board talks to the K3 via the RS232
> port - the original design was computer driven via RS232.
> This was featured in the World Above in QST in 2008 (attached) and here is
> the link
> to the Grid Pirates web… http://www.k8gp.net/station-equipment/moasu or e
> mail Terry. He may have boards and parts left.It is capable of switching
> 12 bands…but the K3 can only handle 10 if memory serves.
>
> I drive 2x24 V rotary switches from the board, one switches the 28 MHz IF
> from the K3 for 222 and 432, and the other uses the 144 Mhz IF for my
> microwave transverters, plus 144 and 50
> as well there are on board relays that move a Demi 4 port sequencer from
> band to band via a set of 3 phono plugs per band, on the back.
> Ive also modified it to provide 12 and 24 V switched output for relays and
> also integrated a G4FRE / WW2R band decoder board into it just to give me
> a full frequency display… ie 2304.1000 rather than 304.1000 on the K3.
>
> It all works great, I can jump from 50 through 2304 just by switching
> bands on the K3.
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
>
>
> On May 8, 2017, at 14:49, Dave Fugleberg  wrote:
>
> Dana, I would be interested in learning more about your transverter
> switching arrangement. Right now I have the K3 plus the Elecraft
> transverters for 144, 222, and 432, using split IF and the Elecraft Aux
> bus. Each transverter drives a power amp. That works fantastic for
> contesting, but I want to add a couple bands. That means adding
> non-Elecraft transverters, and some kind of switching setup.
> 73 de W0ZF
> On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:19 PM Dana Shtun  wrote:
>
>
>
> If you look at the schematic for the internal transverter there appear  to
> be available pins for “stacking” tranverters and switching the IF around…
> similar to what exists with the external transverters.
>
> Which means if there were transverters you could add them internally…222,
> 432, 902, 1296…
> The biggest feature would be band specific sequencing and lines to
> sequence amps, and preamps...
>
> Sure would make my life easier… but I’m using the "Mother of All Switch
> Units" to control all my transverters and sequencing.
> This talks directly to the K3. Makes VHF contesting so easy but its rack
> mounted, would look better in a Elecraft style cabinet! jo
>
> If I took out the 100 w module there would be room to fill the box with
> transverters….but a K3SVU would be nice eh?
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
> FN03
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Re: [Elecraft] Fwd: VHF+UHF Radio Wish List

[Dave Fugleberg]

Dana, I would be interested in learning more about your transverter
switching arrangement. Right now I have the K3 plus the Elecraft
transverters for 144, 222, and 432, using split IF and the Elecraft Aux
bus. Each transverter drives a power amp. That works fantastic for
contesting, but I want to add a couple bands. That means adding
non-Elecraft transverters, and some kind of switching setup.
73 de W0ZF
On Mon, May 8, 2017 at 12:19 PM Dana Shtun  wrote:

>
>
>
> If you look at the schematic for the internal transverter there appear  to
> be available pins for “stacking” tranverters and switching the IF around…
> similar to what exists with the external transverters.
>
> Which means if there were transverters you could add them internally…222,
> 432, 902, 1296…
> The biggest feature would be band specific sequencing and lines to
> sequence amps, and preamps...
>
> Sure would make my life easier… but I’m using the "Mother of All Switch
> Units" to control all my transverters and sequencing.
> This talks directly to the K3. Makes VHF contesting so easy but its rack
> mounted, would look better in a Elecraft style cabinet! jo
>
> If I took out the 100 w module there would be room to fill the box with
> transverters….but a K3SVU would be nice eh?
>
> 73 Dana VE3DS
> FN03
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

[Dave Fugleberg]

OK, I just ran my test again, but this time turned the monitor up all the
way, and i did indeed hear monitor audio in the speakers. I stand
corrected, and sorry for muddying the waters.

No, I wasn't confusing Phones and Line Out.

At any rate, at a 'normal' (for me) monitor level, it's not objectionable
(or even really noticable) in my external speaker. The only way I could
induce audio feedback was to hold the mic right in front of the external
speaker with MON set at or near maximum.

I can't honestly think of any reason one would want TX monitor audio in a
loudspeaker, but I guess that's the way it works, so somebody must think
it's a good idea.  I can't say I've ever noticed it until doing this test.
Whether it results in audio feedback depends on your monitor level, your
mic, your speakers, and the placement of mic and speakers relative to each
other.



On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:

>
> On 4/8/2017 2:19 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
>
>> 2) If you use the REAR panel phones jack, the monitor audio comes
>> through the phones as expected. If SPKR+PHONES is set to yes, the RX
>> audio comes through the speakers, but the transmit Monitor audio does
>> not.
>>
>
> That is *NOT* my experience.  With 5.57, the front and rear panel
> headphone jacks behave identically here.  You may be confusing the
> Phones and Line Out jacks.
>
> 73,
>
>... Joe, W4TV
>
>
>
> On 4/8/2017 2:19 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
>
>> I think some of the misunderstandings on this thread are because the front
>> and rear panel Phones jacks behave differently. Here's the deal:
>> 1) the original poster is using the front panel PHONES jack, and has
>> SPKR+Phones set to NO. This makes the radio behave like most rigs we're
>> used to - i.e., plugging in the phones mutes the speaker. In this case, if
>> Monitor is on, it comes through phones OR speaker, whichever you're using
>> at the time.  There is no provision to enable/disable Monitor based on
>> whether the front panel phones are plugged in, which is what he wants.
>>
>> 2) If you use the REAR panel phones jack, the monitor audio comes through
>> the phones as expected. If SPKR+PHONES is set to yes, the RX audio comes
>> through the speakers, but the transmit Monitor audio does not.
>>
>>
>> At least, that's the behavior with my K3, MCU version 5.57.  I just tested
>> the two scenarios above.  For the record, my normal configuration is to
>> use
>> the rear panel phones and mic jacks, with SPKR+PHONES on.  I do have PF1
>> set to toggle that off, but rarely do, since I'm usually alone in the
>> shack.  I have yet to hear any kind of audio feedback when transmitting.
>> I
>> have no idea if the behavior is any different using the front MIC jack, as
>> I never do.
>>
>> I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a different experience.
>>
>> Incidentally, while testing option 1 above, I unplugged the phones from
>> the
>> front and cranked the MONITOR until it was unpleasantly loud from the
>> speakers, but got no feedback howl, but that may just be a function of
>> placement.
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Richard Lamont 
>> wrote:
>>
>> On 08/04/17 18:11, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 4/8/2017 2:24 AM, Richard Lamont wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> The firmware, however, does not appear to support what seems a simple
>>>>>> and common-sense requirement.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It is *not* the firmware - it is the *hardware* that does not support
>>>> what you call a "simple and common-sense requirement" and what others
>>>> call stupidity.  Perhaps you should study the schematic - at least of
>>>> the K3 which is published.   Notice on the sheets K3 DSP: CODECS and K3
>>>> DSP:DAC AUDIO the headphone/speaker amplifiers are fed *IN PARALLEL*.
>>>> LHPOUT/RHPOUT of U7 (the DC) goes through the audio lowpass filter to
>>>> U1 (speaker amplifier) and U2 (headphone amplifier) *IN PARALLEL*.
>>>> *THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY* to send monitor audio *to only* the
>>>> *headphone amplifier* (or for that matter *only* to the speaker).
>>>>
>>>
>>> I studied the K3 schematics a few days ago. I've just studied them
>>> again. Thanks for the reminder.
>>>
>>> On receive, the rig is capable of muting the speakers when the
>>> headphones are plugged in. This is quite normal. This happens despite
>>> the 

Re: [Elecraft] K3S SSB TX monitor - feature request

[Dave Fugleberg]

I think some of the misunderstandings on this thread are because the front
and rear panel Phones jacks behave differently. Here's the deal:
1) the original poster is using the front panel PHONES jack, and has
SPKR+Phones set to NO. This makes the radio behave like most rigs we're
used to - i.e., plugging in the phones mutes the speaker. In this case, if
Monitor is on, it comes through phones OR speaker, whichever you're using
at the time.  There is no provision to enable/disable Monitor based on
whether the front panel phones are plugged in, which is what he wants.

2) If you use the REAR panel phones jack, the monitor audio comes through
the phones as expected. If SPKR+PHONES is set to yes, the RX audio comes
through the speakers, but the transmit Monitor audio does not.


At least, that's the behavior with my K3, MCU version 5.57.  I just tested
the two scenarios above.  For the record, my normal configuration is to use
the rear panel phones and mic jacks, with SPKR+PHONES on.  I do have PF1
set to toggle that off, but rarely do, since I'm usually alone in the
shack.  I have yet to hear any kind of audio feedback when transmitting.  I
have no idea if the behavior is any different using the front MIC jack, as
I never do.

I'd be interested to hear if anyone has a different experience.

Incidentally, while testing option 1 above, I unplugged the phones from the
front and cranked the MONITOR until it was unpleasantly loud from the
speakers, but got no feedback howl, but that may just be a function of
placement.

On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 1:02 PM, Richard Lamont  wrote:

> On 08/04/17 18:11, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote:
> >
> >> On 4/8/2017 2:24 AM, Richard Lamont wrote:
> >>> The firmware, however, does not appear to support what seems a simple
> >>> and common-sense requirement.
> >
> > It is *not* the firmware - it is the *hardware* that does not support
> > what you call a "simple and common-sense requirement" and what others
> > call stupidity.  Perhaps you should study the schematic - at least of
> > the K3 which is published.   Notice on the sheets K3 DSP: CODECS and K3
> > DSP:DAC AUDIO the headphone/speaker amplifiers are fed *IN PARALLEL*.
> > LHPOUT/RHPOUT of U7 (the DC) goes through the audio lowpass filter to
> > U1 (speaker amplifier) and U2 (headphone amplifier) *IN PARALLEL*.
> > *THERE IS NO POSSIBLE WAY* to send monitor audio *to only* the
> > *headphone amplifier* (or for that matter *only* to the speaker).
>
> I studied the K3 schematics a few days ago. I've just studied them
> again. Thanks for the reminder.
>
> On receive, the rig is capable of muting the speakers when the
> headphones are plugged in. This is quite normal. This happens despite
> the two audio amplifiers having parallel inputs.
>
> There are switch contacts on the front panel headphone jack that enable
> the rig to 'know', firmware permitting, whether there's a jack plug in
> the socket. There is also a line labelled MUTE1 connected to the pin 2
> of the speaker amplifier U1.
>
> So the hardware exists to enable the firmware (a) to know whether
> headphones are plugged in, and (b) to mute the speaker amplifier. This
> hardware is, AFAICS, used on receive. All I'm asking for as an option to
> do the same thing on transmit, if a particular set of circumstances is
> true:
>
> Is the rig on a voice mode?
> Is the audio input set to mic (not line in)?
> Is the rig transmitting?
> Is there nothing plugged into the front panel headphone socket?
>
> If these four conditions are all true, then mute the speaker amplifier.
>
>
> 73,
> Richard G4DYA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 does not fully powering down

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Do you have anything connected to the 15 pin accessory jack on the K3?
I had the same symptom once last year, and tracked it down to a wiring
fault in a homebrew accessory cable.
If you do have something connected to that jack, try unplugging it
temporarily to see if the power down issue goes away.
73 de W0ZF
On Sat, Apr 8, 2017 at 6:46 AM Andrew UK  wrote:

> Hi
>
> K3 08206, failed to power down, pressing the power button turned off the K3
> display and the normal clicks were heard, but the LCD light remained on.
> pressing the power button again, would not bring the K3 on. Only removing
> the 13.8V for a few seconds and powering on brings it back. However the K3
> will still not turn off properly.
>
> I have saved the config, updated the firmware, and reset the K3 by pressing
> shift and powering on. I still have the same issue. I have not got anything
> attached to the rear apart from the Linear amp key line, and that has been
> removed.
>
> It looks like a hardware fault, if someone can give me some guidance.
>
> BR Andrew Lenton G8UUG
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Data Received on Mac Transmitted by K3S

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John,
Ok, Windows was a bad assumption on my part.
You established that the unwanted transmit was due to VOX. That could be
due to one of two issues:
A) the radio mic was picking up the sound coming from the computer
speakers, OR
B) the Mac is configured to send normal computer sounds to the K3s codec
instead of the Mac sound card

If it's A, then turning off VOX is the right dilation and you're all set.
If it's B, I'd suggest that you configure the Mac to send the default audio
to its own sound card, and configure WSJT, etc, to use the K3s codec.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 12:15 PM Carl Clawson  wrote:

> If you're running Windows 10, it might be the source of your problem. It
> has a habit of changing the default audio device when it thinks it's trying
> to "help" you.
>
> My windows 10 PC has an internal sound adapter and I've always used an
> external USB device for radio play. As soon as I unplug the speakers from
> the internal card, Windows 10 decides that it's smarter than I am and
> redirects the default audio device to my USB adapter. So I leave the
> speakers plugged in to the PC, or even just an empty phone plug.
>
> If there's a way to make Win10 stop doing this, I haven't found it yet and
> would love to know.
>
> 73, Carl WS7L
>
> On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 9:04 AM, Kevin - K4VD  wrote:
>
> > ​If your default audio device in Sound --> Playback is the sound card
> > associated with your radio then Windows sounds will be sent to your
> radio.
> >
> > Your web browser should be respecting the default audio device.
> >
> > 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Data Received on Mac Transmitted by K3S

[Dave Fugleberg]

Do you hear the video through your computer speakers as well? If so, maybe
the K3S has VOX enabled and I'd just picking up the sound via the K3s
microphone.
If you DON'T hear the video from the computer, then it's likely that your
default sound device in Windows has been changed to be the audio codec for
the K3S.
What you probably want is for the default playback device in Windows to be
your computer's sound card, and only configure WSJT and any other ham
software to use the K3S audio codec.
On Wed, Apr 5, 2017 at 10:50 AM John Stengrevics 
wrote:

> Audio settings are Codec.  But this not new.  Codec is required to make
> WSJT-X work and have been set this way for months..
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>
> > On Apr 5, 2017, at 11:18 AM, Robert Nobis  wrote:
> >
> > Check your audio settings, under systems preferences.
> >
> >
> > Bob Nobis
> > n7...@nobis.net 
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 5, 2017, at 07:51, stengrevics  > wrote:
> >>
> >> New phenomenon.  When I go to a website that can play a video (such as
> >> YouTube), and the video is played, something is transmitted by my K3S.
> >> Note:  This is a new phenomenon.  I have not knowingly changed any
> setting.
> >>
> >> I would appreciate any suggestions.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> John
> >> WA1EAZ
> >>
> >>
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Re: [Elecraft] Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna and Antenna Pole for KX3

[Dave Fugleberg]

I can vouch for the Packtenna one...I bought the last one they had brought
to Dayton last year. Fits easily into a suitcase and extends to 10m.
On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 5:48 PM Bill Rowlett  wrote:

> The MFJ 2286 Big Stick Vert. may be what you are looking for. Nocks down
> to about 28” and extends to 18’
> I have used it as a 20 meter GP. works well.
>
> 73 Bill  KC4ATU
>
>
> On Apr 2, 2017, at 6:23 PM, Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
> mailto:kx...@coldrockshotbrooms.com>> wrote:
>
> I bought a fiberglass kite pole made by Jackite, and sold at E-Commerce
> sites everywhere.
>
> Mine is 31' extended, between 3 and 4 feet collapsed.
>
> 73 -- Lynn
>
> On 4/2/2017 3:10 PM, Stephen Shearer wrote:
> BTW...
>
> http://www.sotabeams.co.uk/compact-light-weight-10-m-30-ft-mast/ is
> cheaper from UK than US.  $63 + $30 (shipping - tracked) = ~$93
>
> http://shop.packtenna.com/Masts-Supports_c_12.html $89 + $20 (shipping)...
>
> 73, steve WB3LGC
>
>
> On 4/2/2017 4:25 PM, Michael Aust wrote:
> Can Anyone recommended a great QRP Antenna for KX3
>
>
> Going to Hawaii with KX3 from high rise Hotels and some Sandy Beaches
> that is lightweight, easy to deploy, carry on Airlines or packed into
> luggage.
>
>
> Any Portable Poles to recommend for End Fed Antenna's
>
>
> My MFJ-1920 pole is 3.8ft when collapsed and extends to 33 feet
> but when Island Hopping, 3.8ft does not qualify as a Carry On due to
> it's length
> So hit with extra baggage fee's
>
>
> Maybe a Fishing pole that is on sections that not as long, when collapsed
> would be the Answer, some 14ft to 17 feet Crappie Fishing poles only
> breakdown to 46inches to 48inches, about the collapsed length of my
> MFJ-1910 fiberglass telescopic mast
>
>
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[Elecraft] KX2 ATU question

[Dave Fugleberg]

How does the optional internal ATU for the KX2 compare to the Elecraft T1
ATU in terms of tuning range? In other words, if a given length of wire
works well with the T1, can one expect it to work with the KX2 internal
tuner?

 I have a T1, but not a KX2 (at least not yet).
Is  it  a similar design?
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S's built-in RTTY

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I'm not a huge RTTY guy, but I do operate it on occasion. The big
performance difference with using a PC is that there are several decoders
available, each with different strengths. These decoders typically have a
lot of options that can be tweaked to optimize them for conditions. It's
also possible to run multiple different decoders in parallel to see which
one decodes the best at any moment.
Having said that, I typically run whatever decoder is the default in
whatever software I'm using, and seldom adjust the parameters. And, when
the K3 is set to decode RTTY on its display, it generally does a remarkable
job on its own, at least on strong signals.
So, the built in stuff works well, but doesn't provide nearly the same
flexibility as computer based software.
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>
> > For you experienced RTTY'ers, is the built-in capability considered
> > on a par with using a separate sound card interface and separate RTTY
> > PC software,
>
> Not even close!
>
> 73,
>
> ... Joe, W4TV
>
>
> On 3/8/2017 12:10 PM, Don Pomplun wrote:
> > I've just started playing with RTTY with my K3S using the "built-in"
> > capabilities for decoding and the Utility program.  I'm still at the
> > stage of fiddling with the little lines to tune in a RTTY signal
> properly.
> >
> > For you experienced RTTY'ers, is the built-in capability considered on a
> > par with using a separate sound card interface and separate RTTY PC
> > software, or is it just a nice beginner's intro?
> >
> > 73,
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[Dave Fugleberg]

I've been playing with Win4K3 Suite lately... Among (many) other things, it
allows up to four different programs to think they are all connected
directly to the same K3 st the same time. I've been testing it with DXLab
Commander and N1MM+.
Both programs lead and follow the radio - in other words, I can change
frequency, mode, etc on the radio, in Win4K3, N1MM, or commander, and all
of the others change with it.
73 de W0ZF

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:49 AM Matt Zilmer  wrote:

Try LP Bridge?  That's works well here.

73,

matt W6NIA


On 3/1/2017 9:31 AM, buddy s wrote:
> i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> simultaneously.
>
> if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
>
> thanks, es
>
> 73 de
> W3BS, Buddy Spiegel
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Re: [Elecraft] Recording Line Out on the K3

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks Bob, that was it (I was at MCU 5.50). Updated to latest and changed
LIN OUT back to NOR, and it works exactly how I wanted.  I also found a
powerpoint presentation out on the web that you did for CTU on the subject
of recording contest audio - very informative.  Thanks!  Guess I need to
make more of an effort to watch for firmware updates- this radio keeps
getting better and better.
73 de W0ZF

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 12:33 AM, Bob Wilson, N6TV  wrote:

> The problem of no TX Monitor audio on LINE OUT was fixed last July, in MCU
> firmware 5.51, DSP 2.88.
>
> What version of firmware is your K3 running?
>
> 73,
> Bob, N6TV
>
>
> On Feb 25, 2017 7:50 PM, "Dave Fugleberg"  wrote:
>
> I have Line Out of the K3 connected to Line In on one of my soundcards. The
> only way I've been able to record both sides of the QSO is to set the K3
> Line Out to PHONES and turn up the MONitor to make it relatively equal in
> volume to the received audio. This works, but it's annoying to have the
> monitor that high, plus it means the Line Out level follows the AF Gain
> control rather than being fixed level.
>
> Is there any way to get both transmit and receive audio mixed on Line Out
> at a fixed (and relatively similar) level?
>
> 73 de W0ZF
>
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[Elecraft] Recording Line Out on the K3

[Dave Fugleberg]

I have Line Out of the K3 connected to Line In on one of my soundcards. The
only way I've been able to record both sides of the QSO is to set the K3
Line Out to PHONES and turn up the MONitor to make it relatively equal in
volume to the received audio. This works, but it's annoying to have the
monitor that high, plus it means the Line Out level follows the AF Gain
control rather than being fixed level.

Is there any way to get both transmit and receive audio mixed on Line Out
at a fixed (and relatively similar) level?

73 de W0ZF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Receiver mush

[Dave Fugleberg]

Don, that's a great explanation. I came to the same conclusion in a recent
RTTY contest. I built my K3 with the single stock filter based on advice
from a number of folks to 'just operate for awhile til you get the feel for
what other filters you need'. I think that's sound advice.
Anyhow, I've been generally ok with the standard filter and relying on DSP
filtering to narrow it as needed. However, in the RTTY contest, I often had
issues working weaker stations when strong ones were very close by. It was
easy to see what was going on by watching the P3- I'd start copying a
signal inside the DSP bandwidth, and a strong one would pop up just above
or below that station. Even though I couldn't hear the strong station, the
weak one would go nearly silent as the AGC kicked in due to the strong
signal in the IF passband.
So, I think I've learned that I need a narrower filter for such situations.
I'm thinking a 400hz filter is what I want. Any reason for a different
selection in that scenario?
73 de W0ZF
On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 8:52 AM Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Mike,
>
> Think about it - if there are multiple signals in the passband, the AGC
> will respond to the strongest, there is just no way around that fact.
> If the signals can be separated by the DSP, and one is really strong,
> that strong station may be activating the Hardware AGC.  The only
> solution for the latter is a more narrow roofing filter - put the
> offending strong signal out of the passband of the roofing filter and
> use shift to get your sidetone for the desired signal back in order.
>
> That may be too much "fiddling" for a run station in a contest, but it
> is a viable way to operate when trying to copy a weak station working
> close to a strong station.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
> On 2/21/2017 9:25 AM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
> > We noticed again during the contest hat when 3 or 4 stations called, all
> > those signals would be flattened to the same level. Once you got to
> > where one or two stations were calling the signal level would pop up
> > substantially.
> >
> > I have played endlessly with slope and threshold with little effect.
> >
> > My K3 has the new syn boards as well and filters from 2.8 to 2.5.
> > Latest firmware etc.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] OT: PC dependence - log book

[Dave Fugleberg]

Hamlog.

On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 12:37 PM Harry Yingst via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> A quick google search for  - android tablet ham radio logbook
>
> brought up PicoLog that looks like it outputs to an ADIF file that can be
> imported to your logbook, uploaded to LOTW etc
>
>
>
>   From: dw 
>  To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
>  Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 12:45 PM
>  Subject: [Elecraft] OT: PC dependence - log book
>
> This is an off topic question
> Does anyone know of a good solution for electronic device having
> synchronized copy of current log?
> Perhaps for mobile CW operation?
>
> TNX!
> N1BBR :-]
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Product suggestion

[Dave Fugleberg]

Yeah after hitting send on the original post, I had the same thought about
HDMI instead of SVGA. Absolutely.
I also thought about the touch screen idea, but that's readily handled by a
touch screen with mouse emulation.
I think my biggest problem with the concept that I haven't completely
thought through is the fact that now I'd have TWO mice next to my keyboard,
in addition to the paddles and maybe someday a kpod. It's getting crowded
and with two mice, my chances of grabbing the wrong one would be
approaching 90%...
I'm willing to live with it :)
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 7:38 AM Charlie T, K3ICH  wrote:

> Curiously, this suggested black box version of the P3 is exactly what I was
> hoping for when the concept of a P3 was announced (leaked??)
>
> The only time I even LOOK at the P3 screen itself is to occasionally glance
> at my transmitted envelope.
> I use its button controls but could do without the actual P3 screen,
> assuming all the info was displayed on the external monitor.
>
> And a big "heyull yes" for the HDMI output, maybe even 4K format too if the
> processing can handle it???
>
> 73, Charlie k3ICH
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Frantz
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 1:16 AM
> To: Joe Stone (KF5WBO) 
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 Product suggestion
>
> There are some really nice 12V HDMI/VGA/NTSC/PAL screens available. For
> example: 
> and .
>
> I like HDMI because it carries audio and video. YMMV.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
>
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[Elecraft] P3 Product suggestion

[Dave Fugleberg]

The recent thread titled "P3 Point and Click" got me thinking...
I have a base model P3 (no VGA board or TX monitor). I really like how
smoothly it integrates with the K3. It has replaced the Softrock and
software panadapter that I had been using, with much less complexity- it
just works.

However, I do sometimes get frustrated with the 'twist and tap to QSY' user
interface. It is far too easy to accidentally rotate the knob in the
process of tapping it, and making a large excursion in frequency takes much
longer than a mouse point/click would.

My humble suggestion/wish would be for a whole new alternative product -
let's call it the P3x. The P3x would be a small box with IF in, VGA Out,
serial in/out, and a USB port for a mouse.  The user could supply their own
monitor in a size of their choice. It would basically be the same
electronics as the P3, but without the screen, controls, and big (mostly
empty) case.

All the normal P3 controls would be replaced by on-screen buttons with
dropdown menus where appropriate to set parameters like SPAN, etc. Perhaps
the mouse wheel could be incorporated in place of the knob for adjustments
like REF LVL. Of course, "Point and Click QSY" would be supported.

For extra credit, support for a 'gaming mouse' could be included (one of
those mice that has several additional configurable buttons) to support the
standard P3 buttons for those who prefer tactile buttons over clicking
on-screen controls.

To me, this would be a great alternative to the current P3, as it provides
the same excellent integration with the K-line, plus the choice of display
size AND mouse support.  I suspect that many ops who add the SVGA option to
their P3 do so simply for the larger screen, which makes the P3's own
screen redundant anyhow. It also seems odd to me to reach for the P3
controls while looking at the external monitor, so having the controls
integrated on screen with mouse control would be more natural.

While I'm dreaming, I'd also like it available as a P3i - same as the P3x,
but built as an internal option for the K3/K3s. OK, I have no idea where
that could fit in a fully loaded K3/K3s, but this is only a dream, after
all...

So, maybe I'm the only one who thinks this would be a great addition to the
product lineup...but there's my idea. No need to pay me royalties, but I'd
like SN 001 please :)

73 de W0ZF
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Transmit Issue on 80M SSB

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks to all for your suggestions. Carl's suggestion to run the 5 and 50 W
transmitter gain calibration appears to have solved the issue, although I
have no idea why.

Don, I'm familiar with how much drive the K3 wants from the mic, and have
it set properly for my HC-5 element. The behavior was not erratic - it was
easily repeatable using the steps I described. After running the
calibrations, I can no longer repeat the issue.
The only time I had ever previously run the calibrations was during final
setup after assembling the radio a couple years ago.  Is that something
that one should do periodically, or after each firmware update?

Hank, I did back up my configuration both before and after running the
calibration, so I have that in my back pocket as well.

Again, thanks to all who responded - I'll keep an eye on it and report back
if it reappears.

73 de W0ZF

On Sat, Jan 21, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Don Wilhelm 
wrote:

> Dave,
>
> This is a classic case with Elecraft transceivers that do not drive the
> audio sufficiently.  Unless you drive the audio as instructed in the
> manual, the power output will be erratic or non-existent.
>
> When you speak into the microphone, do you see 5 to 7 bars on the ALC
> meter?  If not, you do not have adequate audio drive, increase the mic gain
> until that condition is realized.
>
> If you have a Heil HC6 or HC7 mic element, those have very low output
> levels and you may need to go to the MIC Gain High range.
> Note that the high range only applies to the front panel mic jack.  Go to
> the K3 menu for MIC SEL and tap "3" to toggle the setting on/off. The high
> gain mic preamp is indicated by the icon "H'" in the display.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 1/21/2017 10:20 PM, Dave Fugleberg wrote:
>
>> I seldom operate 80M phone, so don't know if this is a new issue or not.
>> K3
>> S/N 8334 with latest firmware. When I key the transmitter and speak or
>> whistle into the mic, I get no RF output. I can hear myself in the
>> monitor.
>> If I enable VOX, speaking engages the transmitter, but no RF output.
>> Engaging the TUNE function does produce RF output as expected.
>> If I switch the mode to CW and tap the straight key, the radio transmits
>> with expected output. If I THEN switch mode back to LSB, radio functions
>> normally with expected output.
>> Note that all of the above is with radio connected to a dummy load, so my
>> antenna is out of the picture.
>>
>> Once I switch to CW, key the radio, and switch back to LSB as described
>> above, transmit works fine until I power cycle the radio, or adjust the RF
>> Power control (even if I just dial it down a couple watts and then right
>> back to where it was). Either of those two events appears to disable SSB
>> transmit until I 'kick' it by transmitting with CW.
>>
>> As far as I can tell, this behavior is ONLY on 80M. The rig is NOT in
>> 'Test
>> mode', and Xmit Inhibit is turned off in the menu.  All other radio
>> functions and bands seem to work FB.
>>
>
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[Elecraft] K3 Transmit Issue on 80M SSB

[Dave Fugleberg]

I seldom operate 80M phone, so don't know if this is a new issue or not. K3
S/N 8334 with latest firmware. When I key the transmitter and speak or
whistle into the mic, I get no RF output. I can hear myself in the monitor.
If I enable VOX, speaking engages the transmitter, but no RF output.
Engaging the TUNE function does produce RF output as expected.
If I switch the mode to CW and tap the straight key, the radio transmits
with expected output. If I THEN switch mode back to LSB, radio functions
normally with expected output.
Note that all of the above is with radio connected to a dummy load, so my
antenna is out of the picture.

Once I switch to CW, key the radio, and switch back to LSB as described
above, transmit works fine until I power cycle the radio, or adjust the RF
Power control (even if I just dial it down a couple watts and then right
back to where it was). Either of those two events appears to disable SSB
transmit until I 'kick' it by transmitting with CW.

As far as I can tell, this behavior is ONLY on 80M. The rig is NOT in 'Test
mode', and Xmit Inhibit is turned off in the menu.  All other radio
functions and bands seem to work FB.

Any ideas ?
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Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod question

[Dave Fugleberg]

I experimented a bit with the method suggested by Fred, using VFO-B to
'mark' the next signal up the band, and then using A/B to 'jump' to it.
That works, but of course after each 'jump', VFO-B is at the frequency of
the previous QSO. That means a little extra excursion to tune VFO-B past
the current VFO-A frequency to get to the next one up the band. No big
deal, just not quite as nice as using the markers on the P3.
Anyhow, thanks for the tip. In hindsight it's pretty obvious, but I
wouldn't have thought of it without your suggestion.
73 de W0ZF
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:35 PM Dave Fugleberg  wrote:

> Thanks Fred, I hadn't thought about that but it might be a workable way to
> accomplish the same thing. I had never really thought I needed a K-pod, but
> maybe I do :)
> On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:23 PM Cady, Fred  wrote:
>
> How about using the KPod to tune VFO B and then have a macro that swaps
> A/B.  Or just run SO2V.
>
>
> --
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> Fugleberg 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:44 PM
> *To:* Elecraft List
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] K-Pod question
>
> When the K-Pod was first introduced, there was some indication that a
> future enhancement would allow it to control the P3 - specifically, to
> adjust the markers and 'tap to QSY'.
>
> Is this feature available yet, or imminent?
>
> I discovered that the P3 is pretty useful for unassisted search and pounce
> in last weekend's RTTY contest - While working one station on VFO-A, I'd
> move marker A up to the 'mark' tone of the next RTTY signal up the band. As
> soon as the QSO was logged, a tap on the P3 knob would jump to the next
> station to work.  Then move Marker A again and repeat. With a little
> practice, and the SPAN set fairly narrow, I could nail the tuning every
> time, provided I didn't bump the P3 knob when tapping it.
>
> Although that worked well, it was a lot of reaching to the P3. It would be
> a BIG improvement if a K-Pod, right next to the keyboard, could control
> those functions.
>
> Can it?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] K-Pod question

[Dave Fugleberg]

Thanks Fred, I hadn't thought about that but it might be a workable way to
accomplish the same thing. I had never really thought I needed a K-pod, but
maybe I do :)
On Sun, Jan 15, 2017 at 10:23 PM Cady, Fred  wrote:

> How about using the KPod to tune VFO B and then have a macro that swaps
> A/B.  Or just run SO2V.
>
>
> --
> *From:* Elecraft  on behalf of Dave
> Fugleberg 
> *Sent:* Sunday, January 15, 2017 7:44 PM
> *To:* Elecraft List
> *Subject:* [Elecraft] K-Pod question
>
> When the K-Pod was first introduced, there was some indication that a
> future enhancement would allow it to control the P3 - specifically, to
> adjust the markers and 'tap to QSY'.
>
> Is this feature available yet, or imminent?
>
> I discovered that the P3 is pretty useful for unassisted search and pounce
> in last weekend's RTTY contest - While working one station on VFO-A, I'd
> move marker A up to the 'mark' tone of the next RTTY signal up the band. As
> soon as the QSO was logged, a tap on the P3 knob would jump to the next
> station to work.  Then move Marker A again and repeat. With a little
> practice, and the SPAN set fairly narrow, I could nail the tuning every
> time, provided I didn't bump the P3 knob when tapping it.
>
> Although that worked well, it was a lot of reaching to the P3. It would be
> a BIG improvement if a K-Pod, right next to the keyboard, could control
> those functions.
>
> Can it?
>
> 73 DE W0ZF
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[Elecraft] K-Pod question

[Dave Fugleberg]

When the K-Pod was first introduced, there was some indication that a
future enhancement would allow it to control the P3 - specifically, to
adjust the markers and 'tap to QSY'.

Is this feature available yet, or imminent?

I discovered that the P3 is pretty useful for unassisted search and pounce
in last weekend's RTTY contest - While working one station on VFO-A, I'd
move marker A up to the 'mark' tone of the next RTTY signal up the band. As
soon as the QSO was logged, a tap on the P3 knob would jump to the next
station to work.  Then move Marker A again and repeat. With a little
practice, and the SPAN set fairly narrow, I could nail the tuning every
time, provided I didn't bump the P3 knob when tapping it.

Although that worked well, it was a lot of reaching to the P3. It would be
a BIG improvement if a K-Pod, right next to the keyboard, could control
those functions.

Can it?

73 DE W0ZF
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Re: [Elecraft] Headphones

[Dave Fugleberg]

I use an older Heil pro set with HC-5 element on my K3, with great results.
One nice thing on the K3 or K3S is that you can plug the two 3.5mm plugs
directly into the back of the rig- no adapters needed, and no cables
hanging out the front of the radio.
However, my advice to anyone is that the most important thing to look for
in a headset is COMFORT. The audio coming and going can be tailored to your
liking for nearly any mic and headset using the equalizer in the K3, but if
you can't comfortably wear it, even the most expensive headset is useless.

On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 8:50 AM Ron Manfredi  wrote:

I have used the Elite Pro with success.  The dynamic mic element


version, with bias turned OFF.





For an alternate suggestion, many use and like the (inexpensive) Yamaha


CM-500 / Koss SB-45 headset, with it's electret element.








Ron








On 1/14/2017 9:33 AM, Alex Dokic via Elecraft wrote:


> Hi, can anyone advise or recommend what Heil headphones work well with
the k3s many thanks . Alex M0 KVA


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Re: [Elecraft] K3s - 80W on 160 - Resolved

[Dave Fugleberg]

In the past I installed quite a few power poles with a crimper that was not
designed for it. Then a friend bought the purpose-built crimper, which I
borrowed several times. HUGE difference. Makes it almost fun!
My dear wife took note of this, and conspired with my friend to get one
under the tree last Christmas. Now we're all happy.
The purpose built crimper is much faster, but more importantly it makes
much better quality connections, and they always slip easily into the
plastic housing because the crimps are perfectly formed. Proper tools are
well worth the investment ( as is my dear wife).
73 de W0ZF
On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 11:46 AM Walter Underwood 
wrote:

> One more option—Powerwerx has pre-made cables and will make custom cables.
>
> https://powerwerx.com/adapter-extension-cables <
> https://powerwerx.com/adapter-extension-cables>
> https://powerwerx.com/custom-dc-power-cables <
> https://powerwerx.com/custom-dc-power-cables>
>
> wunder
> K6WRU
> Walter Underwood
> CM87wj
> http://observer.wunderwood.org/ (my blog)
>
> > On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:22 AM, Jim Brown 
> wrote:
> >
> > I use PowerPole connectors for all DC wiring, not only in the shack, but
> also throughout the house, and including the dozens of accessories and
> appliances that run on outboard DC supplies. While a "proper crimper" is
> helpful, I've installed hundreds of pairs of power pole connectors using
> nothing more than a soldering iron, needle-nose pliers, and a good bench
> vise. The bench vise holds the cable in place while I'm soldering.  I use
> the needle-nose pliers to carefully crimp the biggest (30A) pins. I don't
> crimp the smaller pins. I do tin the copper before soldering.
> >
> > The 30A pins are the only ones that are difficult, and then only when
> fitting big wire into them. I use stranded cable for DC power wiring; for
> the few that are #8, I remove a few strands at the connector to make it
> fit. I then carefully re-twist it and tin it before crimping with the
> pliers.
> >
> > 73, Jim K9YC
> >
> > On Wed,12/21/2016 6:01 AM, Ray Sills wrote:
> >> If you are going to use Andersen Power Pole connectors, you have to
> commit to getting a proper (yes, a proper) crimper.
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Mobile Radio Dreams & the KX2

[Dave Fugleberg]

Ed, I would love to know more about how you mounted that plate to get the
coax feed throughs out of the cab of your Ford. I have a 2015 F-150 The
thing has so many electronic gadgets and power accessories that I'm leery
of drilling holes just anywhere.
I've been contemplating a similar mobile HF setup Have looked at
several possibilities, but the KX3 and KXPA-100 are pretty intriguing.
On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 6:58 PM Edward R Cole  wrote:

> Bill,
>
> Good ideas for mobiling.  I am addressing some of that in this post:
>
> I like the KX3 because of the versatility of the radio and because
> with addition of the 2M module I have 160m-2m all mode operation.  I
> originally bought a K3/10 since I was mainly going to run VHF and up
> using transverters so high power on HF was a luxury to add later.  As
> it turned out the KXPA-100 serves both my K3 and KX3 equally well.
>
> In setting up my truck for extended travel, ham radio operation, I
> installed a new dual-band FM mobile radio which separates control
> panel from radio so it can be installed under the backseat (Ford
> conveniently provides as a lockable storage area).  I have the 50w FM
> mobile, a 160w 2m linear, and the KXPA-100 installed there (I can
> remove the KXPA-100 for use at home with my K3).
>
> The KX3 sits in a RAM bracket so it fairly easy to remove for use in
> our trailer in a campground in the evening.  After some thought, I
> added two extra coax lines coming out of the cab which can either
> connect to antenna or to coax extensions to the trailer so the amps
> and antennas in the truck can be used by the KX3 sitting on dining
> table in the trailer.  I installed a metal plate for five coax
> feedthru connectors for bringing out coax lines from a hole under the
> cab floor.  Three go to antennas on the cab roof and two are spare
> for running to trailer or whatever.  The HF antenna mounts in corner
> of the bed and has its own coax run.
>
> Trailers all come with 12v wiring and outlets these days which is
> sufficient for the KX3.  Only issue that remains is whether I want to
> add a separate battery for the radios as running down the truck
> battery at night is not cool.  Of course I could run the diesel
> engine but not very efficient way to keep charge on the
> battery.  Trailer will have a generator so maybe hooking up a battery
> charger is an option to separate battery?
>
> Headset with boom mic or just a boom mic for a ball cap as my hearing
> aids have bluetooth.  KX3 audio will go to sync.  Some stuff to
> figure out after using it a bit.  I figure I will mostly operate from
> right seat while my wife drives which should reduce some of the
> issues.  Driving with a 30-foot trailer is 100% job so distraction is
> to be avoided.
>
> We will run 144.39-APRS so you can track us on the web whenever we
> are in range of digipeaters and Igates.
>
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
>
> From: Bill Frantz 
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Mobile Radio Dreams & the KX2
> Message-ID:
>
>   >
>
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>
> Wayne suggests the KX2 and KX3 as mobile rigs, and Jim pointed
> to a really nice installation for use by the passenger. They are
> both viable solutions. However, they do have some problems.
>
> I see mobile rigs being used in 3 ways: (1) Campground rigs for
> use when the vehicle is stopped. Here you can add radials to the
> antenns and a K3(s) would be wonderful. (2) Operated by a
> passenger in motion, and (3) Operated by the driver in motion.
> The driver distraction issues only apply to this last use case.
>
> By way of background, I have installed two mobil rigs. I have a
> Yaesu FTM-30 in my Miata. It was chosen because it could replace
> the stock AM/FM broadcast band radio, freeing up space to
> install it. (There's not much space in a Miata.) It transmits on
> 2M and 70cm, which covers local communications, but doesn't do
> HF or 6M. Its UI is a fine example of what NOT to do in a mobile UI.
>
> The other rig was an Icom 706 in a Toyota 4Runner, which has
> recently gone to the great crusher in the sky. We now have a
> brand new Subaru Forester which needs a radio, so I am in the market.
>
> The KX2 is missing 6M and 2M which means I will need a second
> radio for 2M (and 70cm). I could blow off operating on 6M, but I
> got a lot of use out of 6M in the last VHF contest as a rover.
> My KX3 has 6M and can be upgraded to have 2M, but it is a bit
> big for the available space in the console. (The remote head for
> the 706 fits reasonably well, but the receiver on the 706 isn't
> super good. In any case, our local ARES/RACES group uses 70cm --
> it's the way to hit the local repeater from the hospital EOC
> since 2M doesn't work -- so 70cm is almost a requirement.
>
> Good as these radios are, their UI is not ideal from a driver
> distraction point of view. There are several button presses to
> recall a frequency memory, and there is not an obvious "hands
> free" solu

Re: [Elecraft] Interfacing Ke with MFJ929?

[Dave Fugleberg]

I use a SGC auto tuner in a similar configuration. Tuner at ground level,
40 feet of window line straight up to feed point of 130 foot doublet. TUN
PWR on the K3 is set to about 5 watts in the menu. Press and hold the XMIT
(Tune) button on the K3 and it tunes.
On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 7:05 PM George Kidder  wrote:

> In CONFIG menu, TUN PWR defaults to NOR, where tuning power follows the
> power knob.  But TUN PWR can be pre-set to any other value, which it
> will produce whenever the "xmit" button is held. (I have mine set for 50
> W since my SWR indicators are manual). You could use 5W or anything
> else.  Is this "automated" enough?
>
> George, W3HBM
>
>
> On 11/6/2016 6:43 PM, Dave Lankshear wrote:
> > I wonder if anyone has interfaced a K3 with an MFJ-929, used as a remote
> > tuner?
> >
> >
> >
> > One of my antennas is a doublet fed with 450 ohm ladder line.  The ideal
> > place for a tuner is at the base of the ladderline and I intend to
> > experiment with a variety of baluns to see which work best on which
> bands.
> > I have a suitable housing for the auto ATU and balun(s), which may end up
> > being switched remotely.
> >
> >
> >
> > The auto tuner can be set to an automatic mode whereby feeding a few
> watts
> > of RF will generate a tune before adjusting power output of the K3 to the
> > required level, but I wonder if this can be done in a more automated
> manner?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any help and guidance would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> >
> >
> > 73 Dave G3TJP
> >
> >
> >
> >
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