date:20011019


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely big,
I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await a
reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb and
about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops
to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a
valid backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a
figure of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it
if we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not
to because of the possibility of the misuse of that information.
Everyone should be aware that not everything posted is correct or
properly articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use
suggestions from the list they should ensure that they have a fallback
position ALWAYS!

(And I dont think I implied that all information regarding eseutil was
available on technet either - merely how to perform an offline defrag.)

Neway - this is quite of topic now, so thanks for your feedback Don and
William - I trust you understand the light in which I made my comments.

Nick




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Since William is having troubles sending to the list, I have forwarded
his
reply at his request.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:41 PM
To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: Database size


Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task

No

RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Nick Bradford


err - we were supporting in excess of 400 users on one box

If you have a fairly static environment then there is no reason that the
db would blow out...  The original mail that sparked all this described
a situation where 50 odd mailboxes had been removed from the store and
the db did not shrink.  This is to be expected because the online defrag
cannot reclaim white space from the db. The only way to reclaim that
space (should you want to :) ) is to run an offline.

Nick 



-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and
about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,
 
Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick, 

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops
to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a
valid backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a
figure of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it
if we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not
to because of the possibility of the misuse of that information.
Everyone should be aware that not everything posted is correct or
properly articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use
suggestions from the list they should ensure that they have a fallback
position ALWAYS!

(And I dont think I implied that all information regarding eseutil was
available on technet either - merely how to perform an offline defrag.)

Neway - this is quite of topic now, so thanks for your feedback Don and
William - I trust you understand the light in which I made my comments.

Nick




-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Since William is having troubles sending to the list, I have forwarded
his
reply at his request.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:41 PM
To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: Database size


Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task

No it isn't.  

never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure

I typically stop at 100.

Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are
accurate
and tested

Absolutely.  A typical install of 5.5 with a 10GB Info Store should be
recovered in a few hours.

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet

Actually, all the information on eseutil is not freely available.  There
are
a few switches and applications PSS doesn't make public.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP



-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Er, are we exchange admins or users...?

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB

RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Neil Hobson


HEADS UP EVERYONE:

My original post yesterday stated that the person who asked the first
question in this thread should perform an offline defrag.  This was a
quick response to his question that was too simplistic on my part.

In no way do I either perform or recommend offline defrags as part of
normal operations.  They're a waste of time.  If other people on this
list wish to do them regularly (even 6 monthly) then that's fine, as
long as you don't say that I was one of the people who stated this was a
good thing to do.

There, got that off my chest.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely
big, I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily
as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await
a reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never 
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB 
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops

to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a
valid backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a
figure of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it
if we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not
to because of the possibility of the misuse of that information.
Everyone should be aware that not everything posted is correct or
properly articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use
suggestions from the list they should ensure that they have a fallback
position

RE: Database size


Too late Neil - Database is damaged - I went by your recommendations :)

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:38:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

HEADS UP EVERYONE:

My original post yesterday stated that the person who asked the first
question in this thread should perform an offline defrag.  This was a
quick response to his question that was too simplistic on my part.

In no way do I either perform or recommend offline defrags as part of
normal operations.  They're a waste of time.  If other people on this
list wish to do them regularly (even 6 monthly) then that's fine, as
long as you don't say that I was one of the people who stated this was a
good thing to do.

There, got that off my chest.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely
big, I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily
as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await
a reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops

to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a
valid backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a
figure of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it
if we actually provide

RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Nick Bradford


Thats ok - your only looking at an hour or so to restore the tested
online backup you have ;)

I think this is getting a little out of hand yes?

Nick


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Too late Neil - Database is damaged - I went by your recommendations :)

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:38:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

HEADS UP EVERYONE:

My original post yesterday stated that the person who asked the first
question in this thread should perform an offline defrag.  This was a
quick response to his question that was too simplistic on my part.

In no way do I either perform or recommend offline defrags as part of
normal operations.  They're a waste of time.  If other people on this
list wish to do them regularly (even 6 monthly) then that's fine, as
long as you don't say that I was one of the people who stated this was a
good thing to do.

There, got that off my chest.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely
big, I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily
as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await
a reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops

to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag

RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Neil Hobson


LOL - guess I'll have to refund the list subscription charges... ;-)

PS - don't forget to jump off that cliff!

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:45
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


I already told my boss that the mail server is down because Neil Hobson
told me to run the eseutil. Expect a phone call in the morning ;o)

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


HEADS UP EVERYONE:

My original post yesterday stated that the person who asked the first
question in this thread should perform an offline defrag.  This was a
quick response to his question that was too simplistic on my part.

In no way do I either perform or recommend offline defrags as part of
normal operations.  They're a waste of time.  If other people on this
list wish to do them regularly (even 6 monthly) then that's fine, as
long as you don't say that I was one of the people who stated this was a
good thing to do.

There, got that off my chest.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely
big, I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily
as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await
a reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops

to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe
are still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the
list yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance

RE: Database size


Im at the cliff !!! ;-)

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:51:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

LOL - guess I'll have to refund the list subscription charges... ;-)

PS - don't forget to jump off that cliff!

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:45
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


I already told my boss that the mail server is down because Neil Hobson
told me to run the eseutil. Expect a phone call in the morning ;o)

Sean

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:38 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


HEADS UP EVERYONE:

My original post yesterday stated that the person who asked the first
question in this thread should perform an offline defrag.  This was a
quick response to his question that was too simplistic on my part.

In no way do I either perform or recommend offline defrags as part of
normal operations.  They're a waste of time.  If other people on this
list wish to do them regularly (even 6 monthly) then that's fine, as
long as you don't say that I was one of the people who stated this was a
good thing to do.

There, got that off my chest.  :-)

Neil

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Posted At: 19 October 2001 08:34
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: RE: Database size


Thanks Sean.
Actually I am happy to leave them alone, as the files are not extremely
big, I can still perform online backups, and its running quick happily
as it is!

Why upset the applecart!? :)
Thanks Sean

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:32:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Simon,

I just type more experienced than I actually am. Judging by what I've
learned from the many great individuals on this list, I'd say leave it
alone. However, I have never administered an Exch 2k box. I would await
a reply from someone with more experience.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:29 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb
and about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our
environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably)
regular interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a
5.5 site -  was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to
defrag.  regular  everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little
stroppy if I was doing an offline every night :) )


-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops

to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe

How to remove or disable Internet Newsgroups?

2001-10-19 Thread Gera


A pair of problems:

1. How should I remove or disable Internet Newsgroups from Public Folder
on Ex2000 SP1?

2. Exchange System Mananger from my workstation (Windows 2000Pro SP2)
under Protocols/SMTP shows ? Default SMTP Virtual Server, and
after clicking on Current Sessions shows a message The virtual server
instance is not running. Please start a virtual server and try again
while everything (i mean Exchange server) is started and working fine.
The same problem from another computer (DC, Win2K Server SP2), while
from the server (DC, Win2K Server SP2) itself no problems at all.

Exchange SP1 applied to both server and wksts.

MS Knowledge base brings no help.

Thanks, 
Gera, MCP

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RE: Exchange 5.5 dialup

2001-10-19 Thread Clark, Steve


Simon - 

Would you post the batch file process you outlined below?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
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-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup

Hi Lyle
I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls
the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file
which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to
connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it.
After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully
simple.

The MS solution is under
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp

Hope this is what you are looking for.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 02:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5  dialup


I had tried at the Microsoft forums and got nothing back.  I thought I would
try here. If anyone feels this is off topic, please just ignoreGRIN!

A new client called with a SBS server with everything installed.  They are a
K-8 grade school and have little money.  It was installed as part of a
network and they wanted email out of all of this.  There is an ISP that does
'store  forward' so they could do this via a dialup parttime connection.
They are also using this server as a proxy server for shared websurfer. It's
a busy little server.  It's also setup for multilink connection using two
USR modems to the ISP.  I updated NT to sp6a and exchange 5.5 to sp4.  I
turned off IIS on the public IP addresses also.

I got most of it running well, but one part.  It appears that after a while,
mail will get stuck in the IMC with a message stating that it cann't resolve
the name for the host. I setup the proxy to be 'on' or availible from 6am to
6pm M-F only. I setup the IMC to poll for mail every 4 hours for 15 minutes.
The store  forward routine at the ISP should poll for the mail server in
about a 10 minute cycle for mail inbound to this server.  I found the server
once dialed up but the dialup was not passing traffic and there were
messages stuck in the queue.  I brought up the dialup monitor and dropped
the dialups.   They dialed back up and mail was flowing.

Any suggestions?  I am at a lose here on what to do next??

Thanks,
Lyle

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RE: Internet gateway antivirus vendors recommendation

2001-10-19 Thread STEVE BROOK

Title: Message



Hi,

McAfee 
Webshield fits the bill, I believe Norton also make products for 
bothenterprise and small business, i.e. Norton Internet Security 2002 
etc. My experience is with McAfee and the only problem I have had is 
trying to download Service Packs from Microsoft.They are usually so big 
that it can cause problems (I am talking of patches over 100MB) When that 
happens I commit the mortal sin and stop the servicetemporarily. But as 
those type of downloads occur infrequently and always at night when no one else 
is using the Internet here, it's a risk I can live with. Apart from that I 
never need to touch it. It just runs quite happily updating it's data file 
once a week.

SB

  
  -Original Message-From: Vosswinkel, 
  Kerry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 
  2001 12:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: OT: 
  Internet gateway antivirus vendors recommendation
  Does anyone know 
  of any vendors besides TrendMicro that have antivirus software for the 
  internet gateway that covers non-smtp traffic (FTP, HTTP-downloads, 
  etc.)? Any experiences with them, or with TrendMicro's VirusWall / 
  eManager?
  Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College 
  Durango CO vosswinkel_k at 
  fortlewis dot edu (970) 
  247-7345 
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Re: Internet gateway antivirus vendors recommendation

2001-10-19 Thread scot kight

I have used trend mostly.

I like trend micros program, but the viruswall
itself makes it difficuly to troubleshoot because its logs are "poor" in my
opinion.

Not that any of the others are much
better.

Overall the trend is fairly stable, I havent had it
crash yet. Sending about 30k-40k messages a day. Record high was about 1million messages in a day. So it
definitely works!
This is with the emanagement software active.
Saying that brings up its one negative, the built inspam
filtersleave a little bit to be desired. Watch out when you turn on
the melissastopper. It stops ALL email to from or about anyone named
melissa. Not abig deal since the virusscanner part will catch it,
just dont try to save the cpu cycles by having the emanager stop those
messages! They also update the spam filter regularly (with an auto update)
so I suggest checking exactly what it is filtering, who knows, it might be
filtering out mail you SHOULD be getting

Aclient was runningthe norton
solution. It seemed to be fine. Never had to mess with it at all and
virii were being captured.

Scot

- Original Message -
From:
Vosswinkel, Kerry
To: MS-Exchange Admin
Issues
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:26
PM
Subject: OT: Internet gateway antivirus
vendors recommendation

Does anyone know
of any vendors besides TrendMicro that have antivirus software for the
internet gateway that covers non-smtp traffic (FTP, HTTP-downloads,
etc.)? Any experiences with them, or with TrendMicro's VirusWall /
eManager?
Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College
Durango CO vosswinkel_k at
fortlewis dot edu (970)
247-7345
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RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?

2001-10-19 Thread STEVE BROOK

Title: RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?





This particular tip originated in the Netherlands a month ago. It has been designated a HOAX by A.V.E.R.T. Their opinion is that it would be unlikely to work and that any e-mails you receive with this subject should be treated as you would any other hoax - delete it and don't pass it on. 

Quote:


Please don't rely on this trick, in most cases it won't work, don't forward the e-mail message on to other people- delete it. 

Installing the Microsoft patches has better results. 


http://vil.nai.com/vil/virusSummary.asp?virus_k=99213



SB



-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:42 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?



This was discussed not long ago.
Can't say for sure, but not how I would implement control.
If I were to write a virus, I would put some sort of error checking to prevent the thing from being detected. Go abouts preventing viruses by implementing a little more trustworthy means. Just a hint...

Jlc



-Original Message-
From: Lyonel Tan (OSH CNS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Will this virus prevention tip work?


I was sent this tip by a collegue. Not sure what it means by send all as I can't find an operation like this in MS Outlook. I guess it really depends on how the virus executes the operation.

Combat that Computer Virus:
Intermedia has provided this handy hint for combating the spread of computer
viruses:


Create a contact in your email address book with the name ! Virus Attack with no email address


This address shows up as the initial contact. If a virus attempts to do a send all to your contact list, your PC will provide an error message

saying:


The message could not be sent. One or more recipients do not have an email address. Please check your Address Book and make sure all the recipients have a valid email address

Click on OK and the offending (virus) message will not have been sent to anyone. Do not make any changes to your original contacts list.

The offending (virus) message can then be moved to your Drafts or Outbox folder. Go there and delete the offending message. The virus has not been disseminated and the potential problem is solved.





The information contained in this document is intended only for the addressee and is not necessarily the views nor the official communication of the Department of Labour.

All final/official papers which are sent from the Department will be sent by non-electronic means, on appropriate letterhead, signed by authorised personnel.

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RE: Exchange 5.5 dialup

2001-10-19 Thread Simon Taylor


Hi
This was a while ago before we got an all singing all dancing T1 connection
installed and we had to rely on isdn which I used for the mail retrieval. -
it went something like this (from very rusty memory do forgive mistakes)

Rasdial (connection you want)
Wait ( this is another util that is useful for pausing the batch file so
that it has time to make the link)
etrn /address=mail.myisp.net /port=SMTP /ehlo=mail.mydomain.co.uk
/etrn=@mydomain.co.uk, @mynextdomain.com /auto /min

Then disconnect the ras connection and you should be in business

/address=mail server  Address of mail server to send ETRN command to
/port=portPort to send command to. Usually SMTP (25)
/ehlo=domain  EHLO command argument (identification domain)
/etrn=domain list ETRN command argument (domains to run queue for)
/auto   If specified, run ETRN when etrn.exe started
/minIf specified, run etrn.exe in a minimized window


You can download etrn here 
http://www.magpage.com/magpage/helpdesk/etrn.exe

Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Clark, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 12:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Simon - 

Would you post the batch file process you outlined below?

Steve Clark
Clark Systems Support, LLC
AVIEN Charter Member
Who's watching your network?
www.clarksupport.com
301-610-9584 voice
240-465-0323 Efax

-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup

Hi Lyle
I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls
the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file
which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to
connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS
solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple.

The MS solution is under
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp

Hope this is what you are looking for.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 02:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5  dialup


I had tried at the Microsoft forums and got nothing back.  I thought I would
try here. If anyone feels this is off topic, please just ignoreGRIN!

A new client called with a SBS server with everything installed.  They are a
K-8 grade school and have little money.  It was installed as part of a
network and they wanted email out of all of this.  There is an ISP that does
'store  forward' so they could do this via a dialup parttime connection.
They are also using this server as a proxy server for shared websurfer. It's
a busy little server.  It's also setup for multilink connection using two
USR modems to the ISP.  I updated NT to sp6a and exchange 5.5 to sp4.  I
turned off IIS on the public IP addresses also.

I got most of it running well, but one part.  It appears that after a while,
mail will get stuck in the IMC with a message stating that it cann't resolve
the name for the host. I setup the proxy to be 'on' or availible from 6am to
6pm M-F only. I setup the IMC to poll for mail every 4 hours for 15 minutes.
The store  forward routine at the ISP should poll for the mail server in
about a 10 minute cycle for mail inbound to this server.  I found the server
once dialed up but the dialup was not passing traffic and there were
messages stuck in the queue.  I brought up the dialup monitor and dropped
the dialups.   They dialed back up and mail was flowing.

Any suggestions?  I am at a lose here on what to do next??

Thanks,
Lyle

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RE: Server sizing


30 users isn't that many for an Exchange server but your hardware
configuration really depends on a lot of factors such as the type of
users you'll have (i.e. heavy users/light users), volume of traffic
received, what other services will be running on the exchange server
(i.e. virus scanner, email filter etc.) and of course how much cash
you've got!!

For a recommendation of a basic server with no additional
services/software, I would say get 512MB RAM, a 1Ghz processor and some
fast disks that are at lease mirrored for redundancy purposes. This will
do adequately for you for a long time and also allows for future growth
of your company.

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Server sizing


I just need some suggestions on server sizing and configuration.  I am
new to using Exchange and I want to verify/confirm some information and
outside vendor is giving me.  I have about 30 users that I want to put
on exchange 2k.  I need to determine the server hardware config.  (ie.
hard drive space, cpu, etc.).
 
Thanks everyone for all your help.
 
JK

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RE: Ed Crowley Server Move Method

if win2k is the OS, SP the Exchange server and OS to the latest ... and read
up on the white papers 

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Ed Crowley Server Move Method

Hi

I am currently running Exch 5.5 sp4 on a NT 4.0 sp6a + Hot fixes. This
machine was the 1st NT machine in the company and was originally configured
as a PDC. Exch 5 was then installed on this box (before my time) and has
since been upgraded to 5.5. Since then I have added other NT 4 servers
several of which are Domain Controllers and one has been promoted to the PDC
and the Exch box now functions as a BDC.

I am installing HP LH 3000 that I want to migrate my Exch 5.5 to (not
anywhere ready for E2k) both for performance issues and getting Exch 5.5 off
a Domain Controller. I was going to install NT 4 on the HP but now think
that putting W2K may be the better choice. However, it will be the only W2k
server in the environment, no AD and a member server of the NT4 Domain.

After the server is up running in the Domain, I would then install the Ex
5.5 and Sp4 and follow the E.C. server move method.

Are there any pitfalls in my plan that I am not recognizing ?

If I do take this path of migration am I creating any added problems/issues
down the road when we want to upgrade to E2K ?

Thanks

-Dave Vantine

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RE: Internet gateway antivirus vendors recommendation




1 
million in one day ? Doing what ? 

  -Original Message-From: scot kight 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 07:59 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Internet 
  gateway antivirus vendors recommendation
  I have used trend mostly.
  
  I like trend micros program, but the viruswall 
  itself makes it difficuly to troubleshoot because its logs are "poor" in my 
  opinion.
  
  Not that any of the others are much 
  better.
  
  Overall the trend is fairly stable, I havent had 
  it crash yet. Sending about 30k-40k messages a day. Record high was about 1million messages in a day. So 
  it definitely works!
  This is with the emanagement software 
  active. Saying that brings up its one negative, the built inspam 
  filtersleave a little bit to be desired. Watch out when you turn 
  on the melissastopper. It stops ALL email to from or about anyone 
  named melissa. Not abig deal since the virusscanner part will 
  catch it, just dont try to save the cpu cycles by having the emanager stop 
  those messages! They also update the spam filter regularly (with an auto 
  update) so I suggest checking exactly what it is filtering, who knows, it 
  might be filtering out mail you SHOULD be getting
  
  Aclient was runningthe norton 
  solution. It seemed to be fine. Never had to mess with it at all 
  and virii were being captured.
   
  Scot
  
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Vosswinkel, Kerry 
To: MS-Exchange Admin 
Issues 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:26 
PM
Subject: OT: Internet gateway antivirus 
vendors recommendation

Does anyone know 
of any vendors besides TrendMicro that have antivirus software for the 
internet gateway that covers non-smtp traffic (FTP, HTTP-downloads, 
etc.)? Any experiences with them, or with TrendMicro's VirusWall / 
eManager?
Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis College 
Durango CO vosswinkel_k 
at fortlewis dot edu (970) 
247-7345 
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RE: Internet gateway antivirus vendors recommendation




Our 
company sends out 10k a month and receives about 20k and I thought that was a 
lot!

  -Original Message-From: David N. Precht 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 October 2001 
  13:22To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Internet 
  gateway antivirus vendors recommendation
  1 
  million in one day ? Doing what ? 
  
-Original Message-From: scot kight 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 07:59 
To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Re: Internet 
gateway antivirus vendors recommendation
I have used trend mostly.

I like trend micros program, but the viruswall 
itself makes it difficuly to troubleshoot because its logs are "poor" in my 
opinion.

Not that any of the others are much 
better.

Overall the trend is fairly stable, I havent 
had it crash yet. Sending about 30k-40k messages a day. 
Record high was about 1million messages in a 
day. So it definitely works!
This is with the emanagement software 
active. Saying that brings up its one negative, the built inspam 
filtersleave a little bit to be desired. Watch out when you turn 
on the melissastopper. It stops ALL email to from or about 
anyone named melissa. Not abig deal since the virusscanner part 
will catch it, just dont try to save the cpu cycles by having the emanager 
stop those messages! They also update the spam filter regularly (with 
an auto update) so I suggest checking exactly what it is filtering, who 
knows, it might be filtering out mail you SHOULD be getting

Aclient was runningthe norton 
solution. It seemed to be fine. Never had to mess with it at all 
and virii were being captured.
 
Scot


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Vosswinkel, Kerry 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 7:26 
  PM
  Subject: OT: Internet gateway 
  antivirus vendors recommendation
  
  Does anyone 
  know of any vendors besides TrendMicro that have antivirus software for 
  the internet gateway that covers non-smtp traffic (FTP, HTTP-downloads, 
  etc.)? Any experiences with them, or with TrendMicro's VirusWall / 
  eManager?
  Kerry Vosswinkel Systems Manager Fort Lewis 
  College Durango CO vosswinkel_k at fortlewis dot edu 
  (970) 247-7345 
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RE: Ed Crowley Server Move Method

2001-10-19 Thread Martin Blackstone


Running Exch55 on W2K is great. Much more stable in my opinion. And
having a W2K server in an NT4 domain is no issue at all.
There is/was a whitepaper on the MS site regarding installing Exch55 on
W2K server. 

The one thing to remember is that if you choose to run OWA  on the Exch
server, you will need to make sure you don't let SMTP be installed along
with IIS during the W2K install process.

Other than that, once you SP Exch up to SP4, you will be fine.

-Original Message-
From: Dave Vantine [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Ed Crowley Server Move Method


Hi

I am currently running Exch 5.5 sp4 on a NT 4.0 sp6a + Hot fixes. This
machine was the 1st NT machine in the company and was originally
configured as a PDC. Exch 5 was then installed on this box (before my
time) and has since been upgraded to 5.5. Since then I have added other
NT 4 servers several of which are Domain Controllers and one has been
promoted to the PDC and the Exch box now functions as a BDC.

I am installing HP LH 3000 that I want to migrate my Exch 5.5 to (not
anywhere ready for E2k) both for performance issues and getting Exch 5.5
off a Domain Controller. I was going to install NT 4 on the HP but now
think that putting W2K may be the better choice. However, it will be the
only W2k server in the environment, no AD and a member server of the NT4
Domain.

After the server is up running in the Domain, I would then install the
Ex 5.5 and Sp4 and follow the E.C. server move method.

Are there any pitfalls in my plan that I am not recognizing ?

If I do take this path of migration am I creating any added
problems/issues down the road when we want to upgrade to E2K ?

Thanks

-Dave Vantine





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FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

2001-10-19 Thread msharik


 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com 
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley 
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk 
- 
If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric. 
- 

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can't


From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient. 
-Original Message- 
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? 


That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone else - 
theoretically still busy) 
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is this a 
good thing?  :-) 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM 
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? 
 
 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything... 
  
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? 
   
   
   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add those 
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day. 


 
   -Original Message- 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? 
   
   
 
   if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to unsub 
 them.  I've had some success doing so.  Sometimes you have to view the 
 source document, and cut/paste the url.  
 
   -Original Message- 
   From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5? 
 
 
   me too.  In a previous post I asked if a message could be 
 rejected if it had 
   a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in the 
 initial SMTP 
   conversation).  The kind folks here informed me recently 
 that Exchange will 
   only check the domain and not really check the entire 
 address against the 
   GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange relay

 are a bit 
   ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets in. 
 I'm trying to find 
   the time to evaluate some content inspection products - 
 hopefully one of 
   them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and drop 
 incoming based 
   on that criteria.  
 
   It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows how 
 many honest typo's 
   are made every day.  But it would be cool if you could tell 
 your IMS to 
   track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same sending

 domain or 
   server, maybe start to drop any incoming from them (or 
 someting like 
   that...).  That way legit NDR's would go out to the legit 
 senders, but the 
   flood of NDR's to these junker systems could be killed.  In 
 other words, 
   AFAIK a lot more control over handling non-deliverables at 
 the server would 
   be great. 
 
   randy 
 
-Original Message- 
From: Steve Jacobson

EXCHANGE 2000


Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
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RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?

Title: RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?





I think we discussed a few weeks or so back. The consensus was it probably wasn't too effective.


-Original Message-
From: Lyonel Tan (OSH CNS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 8:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Will this virus prevention tip work?



I was sent this tip by a collegue. Not sure what it means by send all as
I can't find an operation like this in MS Outlook. I guess it really
depends on how the virus executes the operation.


Combat that Computer Virus:
Intermedia has provided this handy hint for combating the spread of computer
viruses:


Create a contact in your email address book with the name
! Virus Attack with no email address


This address shows up as the initial contact. If a virus attempts to do a
send all to your contact list, your PC will provide an error message
saying:


The message could not be sent. One or more recipients do not have an
email address. Please check your Address Book and make sure all
the recipients have a valid email address


Click on OK and the offending (virus) message will not have been sent to
anyone. Do not make any changes to your original contacts list.


The offending (virus) message can then be moved to your Drafts or Outbox
folder. Go there and delete the offending message. The virus has not been
disseminated and the potential problem is solved.






The information contained in this document is intended only for the
addressee and is not necessarily the views nor the official communication of the Department of Labour.


All final/official papers which are sent from the Department will be sent by non-electronic means, on appropriate letterhead, signed by authorised personnel.

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Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread John Sparrow


hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Benjamin Winzenz


You can't install it on NT4.  Period.  Exchange 2K REQUIRES Active
Directory.  Read through the documentation. :)

Ben Winzenz, MCSE
Network/Systems Administrator
Peregrine Systems, Inc.


 -Original Message-
From:   John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: Will this virus prevention tip work?


It only works for a very limited number of virus and only if you have no
other email addresses in your contact list.

ellery july
Technical Lead
Northwest Area Foundation
332 Minnesota
e-1201 
St. Paul, MN 55101
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone - 651-225-3895 
fax   - 651-225-7695  

-Original Message-
From: Lyonel Tan (OSH CNS) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Will this virus prevention tip work?


I was sent this tip by a collegue.  Not sure what it means by send all as
I can't find an operation like this in MS Outlook.  I guess it really
depends on how the virus executes the operation.

Combat that Computer Virus:
Intermedia has provided this handy hint for combating the spread of computer
viruses:

Create a contact in your email address book with the name
! Virus Attack with no email address

This address shows up as the initial contact.  If a virus attempts to do a
send all to your contact list, your PC will provide an error message
saying:

The message could not be sent.  One or more recipients do not have an
email address.  Please check your Address Book and make sure all
the recipients have a valid email address

Click on OK and the offending (virus) message will not have been sent to
anyone.  Do not make any changes to your original contacts list.

The offending (virus) message can then be moved to your Drafts or Outbox
folder.  Go there and delete the offending message.  The virus has not been
disseminated and the potential problem is solved.





The information contained in this document is intended only for the
addressee and is not necessarily the views nor the official communication of
the Department of Labour.

All final/official papers which are sent from the Department will be sent by
non-electronic means, on appropriate letterhead, signed by authorised
personnel.

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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Neil Hobson


The sort of problem you're likely to see is that the install will fail
due to the lack of Active Directory... ;-)

No W2k AD = no E2k.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 19 October 2001 13:47
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an
NT box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k
pro workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
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RE: EXCHANGE 2000

You should configure a demand-dial connection. This isn't configured on
Exchange 2000 but on a Windows 2000 Routing and Remote Access Server
(these can be on the same servers incidentally).

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000

Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how
to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for
hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up
with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
Ora Skaggs
MCSE

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RE: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)

Title: RE: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)





Try http://www.webxd.com/zipguy/freepdf.htm and maybe he can help automate something.


-Original Message-
From: JT Agnello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)



Besides the jaws tool previously mentioned (which I haven't used
personally), adobe acrobat or the ghost set of postscript tools will
help you get any file converted to pdf (print job to postscript file to
pdf). We use the adobe distiller service to monitor a network share,
allowing everyone to drop in postscript files and retrieve out pdf files
that are automatically generated by the monitoring service.


Haven't tried to automate this further via messaging ... however, CERN
offers such an email conversion service, at:


 http://preprints.cern.ch/Convert?emailGuide#codetable


and you might consider emailing their folks (at the supplied support address
on the above page) to ask how they assembled the pieces.


-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)



I apologize in advance if this is a bit off topic, and if anyone can
direct me to another site, please do.
I want my users to be able to send an attachment to a mailbox and have it
automatically returned to them in PDF format.
I know iTrezzo offers a Word to plain text package for the Blackberry that
works this way, does anyone know of something similar for Word to PDF?


Thanks!
Jim


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Engineer
Advertising.com


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RE: EXCHANGE 2000

OS and SP ?

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000

Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
Ora Skaggs
MCSE

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Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Rick Gasper


You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

- Original Message -
From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
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 http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: Server sizing

Title: RE: Server sizing





Generally I ask how much of a budget I have and then make sure I get as powerful a system as I can.


30 isn't alot of users. I've got 50 on an old HP 166 w/96megs - NT4, Ex5.5. 


-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server sizing



30 users isn't that many for an Exchange server but your hardware
configuration really depends on a lot of factors such as the type of
users you'll have (i.e. heavy users/light users), volume of traffic
received, what other services will be running on the exchange server
(i.e. virus scanner, email filter etc.) and of course how much cash
you've got!!


For a recommendation of a basic server with no additional
services/software, I would say get 512MB RAM, a 1Ghz processor and some
fast disks that are at lease mirrored for redundancy purposes. This will
do adequately for you for a long time and also allows for future growth
of your company.


-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:03
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Server sizing



I just need some suggestions on server sizing and configuration. I am
new to using Exchange and I want to verify/confirm some information and
outside vendor is giving me. I have about 30 users that I want to put
on exchange 2k. I need to determine the server hardware config. (ie.
hard drive space, cpu, etc.).

Thanks everyone for all your help.

JK


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RE: EXCHANGE 2000

OS is SMALL BUSINESS SERVER 2000(windows 2000 sp2)

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000

OS and SP ?

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000

Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
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MCSE

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RE: Server sizing

Title: RE: Server sizing

Agreed. If there is a budget you will be constrained by that. Sometimes
though the people with the purse strings have no idea how much things cost and
will ask IT to provide a quote. In that case, you can price a system based on
the specs you suggest as opposed to the specs available to you within a certain
price.

I
don't know how you managed to get your HP workable with those specs, but well
done. These days I wouldn't run anything on a machine with those
specs!!

-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 October 2001
14:11To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Server
sizing
Generally I ask how much of a budget I have and then make sure
I get as powerful a system as I can.
30 isn't alot of users. I've got 50 on an old HP 166 w/96megs
- NT4, Ex5.5.
-Original Message- From: Robin
Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE:
Server sizing
30 users isn't that many for an Exchange server but your
hardware configuration really depends on a lot of
factors such as the type of users you'll have (i.e.
heavy users/light users), volume of traffic received,
what other services will be running on the exchange server (i.e. virus scanner, email filter etc.) and of course how much
cash you've got!!
For a recommendation of a basic server with no
additional services/software, I would say get 512MB
RAM, a 1Ghz processor and some fast disks that are at
lease mirrored for redundancy purposes. This will do
adequately for you for a long time and also allows for future growth
of your company.
-Original Message- From:
Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 October 2001 13:03 To: MS-Exchange
Admin Issues Subject: Server sizing
I just need some suggestions on server sizing and
configuration. I am new to using Exchange and I
want to verify/confirm some information and outside
vendor is giving me. I have about 30 users that I want to put
on exchange 2k. I need to determine the server hardware
config. (ie. hard drive space, cpu,
etc.). Thanks everyone
for all your help. JK
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RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

2001-10-19 Thread Steve Jacobson


Yes, I realized that after I sent it.  The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses.  I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list.  More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue.  This might discourage the
spammers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t


 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

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-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't


From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is
this a
good thing?  :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...


   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.



   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?



   if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
 them.  I've had some success doing so.  Sometimes you have to view
the
 source document, and cut/paste the url.

   -Original Message-
   From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?


   me too.  In a previous post I asked if a message could
be
 rejected if it had
   a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in
the
 initial SMTP
   conversation).  The kind folks here informed me
recently
 that Exchange will
   only check the domain and not really check the
entire
 address against the
   GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange
relay

 are a bit
   ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets
in.
 I'm trying to find
   the time to evaluate some content inspection
products -
 hopefully one of
   them will be able to look at the Exchange userlist and
drop
 incoming based
   on that criteria.

   It is nice for legit users to get an NDR - God knows
how
 many honest typo's
   are made every day.  But it would be cool if you could
tell
 your IMS to
   track NDR's and if enough are going back to the same
sending

 domain or
   server, maybe start to drop any incoming from

RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

2001-10-19 Thread Tom.Gray


Lots of people will tell you it won't work.
Most won't tell you why.

Here is an overly simplified explaination.

 Exchange 5.5 and lower has basically 3 components:
1. Message store.  Think of this as the big database where all the mail
is
2. Connectors.   This is how mail gets in and out.  Like SMTP, CCMail,
MSmail etc)
 AND this is how the directory gets to and from other exchange
servers
3. Directory.  This is the list of users and global address list, and
the permissions, properties and such.  

  Well, along comes Win2k.  The directory (Active Directory) is basically
  and enhanced (stolen) version of the directory in exchange 5.5.  In order
  for active directory to work, the directory has to be distributed/shared
with
  other Win2k servers so the connectors are also built into win2k.
  So Exchange 2k is left with only the message store.  It should be cheaper
but
  it ain't!   If you somehow managed to install E2k on NT4, you would have
no
  mailbox names and no mail transports!

Once again, overly simplified to save bandwidth.


Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t


I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already
been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things you
can do.

You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive these
emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email
addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t


Yes, I realized that after I sent it.  The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses.  I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list.  More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue.  This might discourage the
spammers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t


 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

-Michèle
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Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
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-

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't


From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is
this a
good thing?  :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...


   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.



   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?



   if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
 them.  I've had some success doing so.  Sometimes you have to view
the
 source document, and cut/paste the url.

   -Original Message-
   From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?


   me too.  In a previous post I asked if a message could
be
 rejected if it had
   a bogus username (no NDR, no nothing - just kill it in
the
 initial SMTP
   conversation).  The kind folks here informed me
recently
 that Exchange will
   only check the domain and not really check the
entire
 address against the
   GAL (although I think the docs on securing an Exchange
relay

 are a bit
   ambiguous in that regard), so the fake username gets
in.
 I'm

RE: EXCHANGE 2000

I forgot to mention these dial-up connections don't have static IP addresses

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000

OS is SMALL BUSINESS SERVER 2000(windows 2000 sp2)

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000

OS and SP ?

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000

Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
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MCSE

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RE: EXCHANGE 2000


Doesn't matter.

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


I forgot to mention these dial-up connections don't have static IP
addresses

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


OS is SMALL BUSINESS SERVER 2000(windows 2000 sp2)

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


OS and SP ?

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000


Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how
to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for
hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up
with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
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MCSE


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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? ------NOT!!!

2001-10-19 Thread John Sparrow


thanks everyone

kinda get the picture :D

had a feeling that, that was the case, i guess i was hoping that there was
some sort of workaround or something

thnaks tho

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
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-Original Message-
From: Rick Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

- Original Message -
From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
 Travco Ltd, London
 http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: EXCHANGE 2000


I followed the wizards but it doesn't seem to help any.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


Doesn't matter.

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:29
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


I forgot to mention these dial-up connections don't have static IP
addresses

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


OS is SMALL BUSINESS SERVER 2000(windows 2000 sp2)

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


OS and SP ?

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 08:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000


Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how
to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for
hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up
with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
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MCSE


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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


Exchange 2000 runs ONLY on Win2k - it uses Active Directory - Something
missing from NT4 :)

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 01:47:PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??

hi all

sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
box??

currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its friday

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Computer Department
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RE: Exchange Servers Stopped Talking

2001-10-19 Thread larry . manno


I have also seen this problem when there is network problems between the
servers.  The RPC traffic between the servers are having problems getting
through in a timly manner.

Larry

-Original Message-
From: Brad Foss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange Servers Stopped Talking


We have three Exchange servers (5.5 SP3) in the same site. Two of the
servers are in one NT 4.0 domain, the third is in a W2K AD domain.

This was working, until we had to change the IP addressing scheme in our
NT 4.0 domain.

We changed the address for the DNS and WINS server in the Echange server
in the AD domain. We can ping the other two servers by name form the AD
domain. The users on the Exchange server in the AD domain can send mail to
each other, just not to anyone on the NT 4.0 Exchange servers.

I've restarted the servers with no success.

The error log shows the following errors repeated;

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   10/15/2001
Time:   11:36:33 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   SCARBOROUGH
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 4, NT/MTA error code: 5. Comms error5,  Bind
error   5,
Remote Server Name EXCHINT1 [MAIN BASE 1 500 %10] (14)


Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: X.400 Service 
Event ID:   289
Date:   10/15/2001
Time:   11:36:33 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   SCARBOROUGH
Description:
A connection to
/O=NEOPOST/OU=HOMEOFFICE/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=EXCHINT1/CN=MICROSOF
T
MTA could not be opened. [MTA XFER-IN 17 26] (12)

Technet issues refer to a connection or DNS problem, but the diagnosis
doesn't confirm that as the problem.

Any suggestions on where to look?

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RE: Server sizing

Title: RE: Server sizing

The HP
was here when I got here. Several years ago it was a decent machine,
spec-wise. Of course you wouldn't buy one like that now.

I
understand they don't always get it. I've just been adept at coming up
with a decent config off the Dell or HP sites, and give an approximate dollar
figure. Frankly the last server I purchased here was a white box. I
wanted more horsepower/features than a comparably configured name brand server
could accomodate with my budget.

-Original Message-From: Robin Lawrie
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:19
AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Server
sizing
Agreed. If there is a budget you will be constrained by that. Sometimes
though the people with the purse strings have no idea how much things cost and
will ask IT to provide a quote. In that case, you can price a system based on
the specs you suggest as opposed to the specs available to you within a certain
price.

I
don't know how you managed to get your HP workable with those specs, but well
done. These days I wouldn't run anything on a machine with those
specs!!

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Retrospect Exchange Agent

2001-10-19 Thread Rick Collins


Is anyone using the Retrospect Exchange backup agent? I have a customer that
is insisting on using it since it's free, instead of Backup Exec (which I
am familiar with). I'd like to hear stories (good and bad).

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RE: EXCHANGE 2000

okay that would explain why Exchange settings don't seem to help.If I setup
RAS how do I get Exchange to know it is a dial on demand connection?Sorry if
these seem like basic questions but I really am out of my element here.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000

You should configure a demand-dial connection. This isn't configured on
Exchange 2000 but on a Windows 2000 Routing and Remote Access Server
(these can be on the same servers incidentally).

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000

Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how
to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for
hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up
with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
Ora Skaggs
MCSE

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RE: Exchange 5.5 dialup

2001-10-19 Thread Lyle


Cann't tell about the article, this link goes no where :-{

I don't think the problem is Exchange specific, but more the dialup goes
brain dead, but I have not found any answers elsewhere, so I was asking
here.  I did all this setup within Exchange and the Internet connector.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Hi Lyle
I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls
the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file
which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to
connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it.
After looking there is an MS solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully
simple.

The MS solution is under
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp
 
Hope this is what you are looking for.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 02:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5  dialup


I had tried at the Microsoft forums and got nothing back.  I thought I would
try here. If anyone feels this is off topic, please just ignoreGRIN!

A new client called with a SBS server with everything installed.  They are a
K-8 grade school and have little money.  It was installed as part of a
network and they wanted email out of all of this.  There is an ISP that does
'store  forward' so they could do this via a dialup parttime connection.
They are also using this server as a proxy server for shared websurfer. It's
a busy little server.  It's also setup for multilink connection using two
USR modems to the ISP.  I updated NT to sp6a and exchange 5.5 to sp4.  I
turned off IIS on the public IP addresses also.

I got most of it running well, but one part.  It appears that after a while,
mail will get stuck in the IMC with a message stating that it cann't resolve
the name for the host. I setup the proxy to be 'on' or availible from 6am to
6pm M-F only. I setup the IMC to poll for mail every 4 hours for 15 minutes.
The store  forward routine at the ISP should poll for the mail server in
about a 10 minute cycle for mail inbound to this server.  I found the server
once dialed up but the dialup was not passing traffic and there were
messages stuck in the queue.  I brought up the dialup monitor and dropped
the dialups.   They dialed back up and mail was flowing.

Any suggestions?  I am at a lose here on what to do next??

Thanks,
Lyle

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RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

2001-10-19 Thread Steve Jacobson

How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail
except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of
bogus e-mail address that will be accepted.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already
been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things
you
can do.

You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive
these
emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email
addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

Yes, I realized that after I sent it.  The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses.  I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list.  More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue.  This might discourage the
spammers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric.
-

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't

From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is
this a
good thing?  :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?

   if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
 them.  I've had some success doing so.  Sometimes you have to view
the
 source document, and cut/paste the url.

   -Original Message-
   From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?

   me too.  In a previous post I asked if a message could
be
 rejected if it had
   a bogus

RE: Exchange Servers Stopped Talking

Have you tried using the rpcping toolsI think they're on the
Exchange 5.5 server cd somewhere.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:45
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange Servers Stopped Talking

I have also seen this problem when there is network problems between the
servers.  The RPC traffic between the servers are having problems
getting
through in a timly manner.

Larry

-Original Message-
From: Brad Foss [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 9:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange Servers Stopped Talking

We have three Exchange servers (5.5 SP3) in the same site. Two of the
servers are in one NT 4.0 domain, the third is in a W2K AD domain.

This was working, until we had to change the IP addressing scheme in our
NT 4.0 domain.

We changed the address for the DNS and WINS server in the Echange server
in the AD domain. We can ping the other two servers by name form the AD
domain. The users on the Exchange server in the AD domain can send mail
to
each other, just not to anyone on the NT 4.0 Exchange servers.

I've restarted the servers with no success.

The error log shows the following errors repeated;

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: Interface 
Event ID:   9318
Date:   10/15/2001
Time:   11:36:33 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   SCARBOROUGH
Description:
An RPC communications error occurred. Unable to bind over RPC. Locality
Table (LTAB) index: 4, NT/MTA error code: 5. Comms error5,
Bind
error   5,
Remote Server Name EXCHINT1 [MAIN BASE 1 500 %10] (14)

Event Type: Warning
Event Source:   MSExchangeMTA
Event Category: X.400 Service 
Event ID:   289
Date:   10/15/2001
Time:   11:36:33 AM
User:   N/A
Computer:   SCARBOROUGH
Description:
A connection to
/O=NEOPOST/OU=HOMEOFFICE/CN=CONFIGURATION/CN=SERVERS/CN=EXCHINT1/CN=MICR
OSOF
T
MTA could not be opened. [MTA XFER-IN 17 26] (12)

Technet issues refer to a connection or DNS problem, but the diagnosis
doesn't confirm that as the problem.

Any suggestions on where to look?

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RE: EXCHANGE 2000


You don't need to do anything to let exchange know there is a
demand-dial connection. The very nature of the demand-dial connection
are that it will dial your ISP whenever it needs to. You just need to
configure your SMTP Connector as normal then create a Demand-dial
connection on you RRAS server. RRAS is installed by default I think, it
just will need configuring.

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


okay that would explain why Exchange settings don't seem to help.If I
setup
RAS how do I get Exchange to know it is a dial on demand
connection?Sorry if
these seem like basic questions but I really am out of my element here.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


You should configure a demand-dial connection. This isn't configured on
Exchange 2000 but on a Windows 2000 Routing and Remote Access Server
(these can be on the same servers incidentally).

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000


Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have
no Exchange 2000
experience.When I setup the Small Business Server I can't figure out how
to
get Exchange working on a dial-up connection.I've messed with this for
hours
and can't seem to figure out if this is even possible.Can I set it up
with a
dial-up connection and if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help.
Ora Skaggs
MCSE


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RE: Exchange 5.5 dialup

2001-10-19 Thread Simon Taylor


Oops :)

Here's the link
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Cann't tell about the article, this link goes no where :-{

I don't think the problem is Exchange specific, but more the dialup goes
brain dead, but I have not found any answers elsewhere, so I was asking
here.  I did all this setup within Exchange and the Internet connector.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Hi Lyle
I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls
the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file
which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to
connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS
solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple.

The MS solution is under
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp
 
Hope this is what you are looking for.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 02:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5  dialup


I had tried at the Microsoft forums and got nothing back.  I thought I would
try here. If anyone feels this is off topic, please just ignoreGRIN!

A new client called with a SBS server with everything installed.  They are a
K-8 grade school and have little money.  It was installed as part of a
network and they wanted email out of all of this.  There is an ISP that does
'store  forward' so they could do this via a dialup parttime connection.
They are also using this server as a proxy server for shared websurfer. It's
a busy little server.  It's also setup for multilink connection using two
USR modems to the ISP.  I updated NT to sp6a and exchange 5.5 to sp4.  I
turned off IIS on the public IP addresses also.

I got most of it running well, but one part.  It appears that after a while,
mail will get stuck in the IMC with a message stating that it cann't resolve
the name for the host. I setup the proxy to be 'on' or availible from 6am to
6pm M-F only. I setup the IMC to poll for mail every 4 hours for 15 minutes.
The store  forward routine at the ISP should poll for the mail server in
about a 10 minute cycle for mail inbound to this server.  I found the server
once dialed up but the dialup was not passing traffic and there were
messages stuck in the queue.  I brought up the dialup monitor and dropped
the dialups.   They dialed back up and mail was flowing.

Any suggestions?  I am at a lose here on what to do next??

Thanks,
Lyle

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RE: Database size

Let E2K do it's on thing.  There is no reason to run an offline defrag
unless you are experiencing problems that require it.

D

-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Sean
I implemented Exch2k SP2 6 months ago for only 12 users.
By default, would it do any real harm performing a defrag? Or would you
recommend leaving it for the time being

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 08:27:AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never 
60+ once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb and
about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably) regular
interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a 5.5 site -
was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to defrag.  regular
 everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little stroppy if I was
doing an offline every night :) )

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Nick,

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB 
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops 
to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe are
still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the list
yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a valid
backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a figure
of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it if
we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not to
because of the possibility of the misuse of that information. Everyone
should be aware that not everything posted is correct or properly
articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use suggestions from
the list they should ensure that they have a fallback position ALWAYS!

(And I dont think I implied that all information regarding eseutil was
available on technet either - merely how to perform an offline defrag.)

Neway - this is quite of topic now, so thanks for your feedback Don and
William - I trust you understand the light in which I made my comments.

Nick

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:36 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Since William is having troubles sending to the list, I have forwarded his
reply at his request.

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:41 PM
To: 'MS-Exchange Admin Issues'
Subject: RE: Database size

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task

No it isn't. 

never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure

I typically stop at 100.

Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are accurate
and tested

Absolutely.  A typical install of 5.5 with a 10GB Info Store should be
recovered in a few hours.

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet

Actually, all the information on eseutil is not freely available.  There are
a few switches and applications PSS doesn't make public.

William Lefkovics, MCSE, A+, ExchangeMVP

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 4:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Er, are we exchange

RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

I might be wrong here because my knowledge of 5.5 is rusty, but I
thought all you needed to do was add the secondary email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to a mailbox and that mailbox would now
receive all email addressed to your domain that isn't a valid recipient.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail
except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of
bogus e-mail address that will be accepted.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already
been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things
you
can do.

You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive
these
emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email
addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

Yes, I realized that after I sent it.  The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses.  I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list.  More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue.  This might discourage the
spammers.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric.
-

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't

From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is
this a
good thing?  :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?

   if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
 them.  I've had some success doing so.

RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

Title: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t





You can't. Maybe Kevin Snook already has a utility to help you. 


-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 6:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t



How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail
except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of
bogus e-mail address that will be accepted.


-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t



I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already
been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things
you
can do.


You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive
these
emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email
addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators.


-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t



Yes, I realized that after I sent it. The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses. I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list. More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue. This might discourage the
spammers.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t



 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.


Huh? If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.


or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?


-Michèle
Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com
Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley
Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk
-
If insane people had more money they would just be eccentric.
-


-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't



From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do: Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.


This seems to be what I am hearing? Is this correct?


The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish: an
NDR will be sent to the sender.


Steve Jacobson
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?



Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?



That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today. Is
this a
good thing? :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?


 why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.



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 Sent: 17 October 2001 15:56
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 Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange
5.5?



 if you think it's subscriptions, then you can try to
unsub
 them. I've had some success doing so. Sometimes you have to view
the
 source document, and cut/paste the url.

 -Original Message-
 From: Toni, Randy [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 7:06 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

Not receiving mail

2001-10-19 Thread Todd White




I am testing 2 
exchange servers for directory replication but my problem is that when I send a 
email to the server in Israel they don't receive the email going down the 
VPN. If this is on our frame it works. I added a new zone with A 
record and MX record for the server in Israel. I can ping by name and IP 
address so I don't think it is WINS or DNS...what should I check 
next?
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RE: Exchange 5.5 dialup

2001-10-19 Thread Boswell Tim


you'll need to type the .asp manually


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-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Oops :)

Here's the link
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Cann't tell about the article, this link goes no where :-{

I don't think the problem is Exchange specific, but more the dialup goes
brain dead, but I have not found any answers elsewhere, so I was asking
here.  I did all this setup within Exchange and the Internet connector.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Simon Taylor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5  dialup


Hi Lyle
I have had a similar situation where I used a util called etrn which polls
the store and forward server for you - I just put this into a batch file
which did the dialup and then ran this - you give it a host and port to
connect to and shibang it goes off and gets it. After looking there is an MS
solution aswell, but the above is wonderfully simple.

The MS solution is under
http://support.microsoft.com/support/exchange/content/whitepapers/dialupims.
asp
 
Hope this is what you are looking for.
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Lyle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 02:50
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5  dialup


I had tried at the Microsoft forums and got nothing back.  I thought I would
try here. If anyone feels this is off topic, please just ignoreGRIN!

A new client called with a SBS server with everything installed.  They are a
K-8 grade school and have little money.  It was installed as part of a
network and they wanted email out of all of this.  There is an ISP that does
'store  forward' so they could do this via a dialup parttime connection.
They are also using this server as a proxy server for shared websurfer. It's
a busy little server.  It's also setup for multilink connection using two
USR modems to the ISP.  I updated NT to sp6a and exchange 5.5 to sp4.  I
turned off IIS on the public IP addresses also.

I got most of it running well, but one part.  It appears that after a while,
mail will get stuck in the IMC with a message stating that it cann't resolve
the name for the host. I setup the proxy to be 'on' or availible from 6am to
6pm M-F only. I setup the IMC to poll for mail every 4 hours for 15 minutes.
The store  forward routine at the ISP should poll for the mail server in
about a 10 minute cycle for mail inbound to this server.  I found the server
once dialed up but the dialup was not passing traffic and there were
messages stuck in the queue.  I brought up the dialup monitor and dropped
the dialups.   They dialed back up and mail was flowing.

Any suggestions?  I am at a lose here on what to do next??

Thanks,
Lyle

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RE: Not receiving mail

Title: Message



Dunno 
what kind of firewall you have, but check your VPN connectivity for any kind of 
errors.

  
  -Original Message-From: Todd White 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 
  7:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Not 
  receiving mail
  I am testing 2 
  exchange servers for directory replication but my problem is that when I send 
  a email to the server in Israel they don't receive the email going down the 
  VPN. If this is on our frame it works. I added a new zone with A 
  record and MX record for the server in Israel. I can ping by name and IP 
  address so I don't think it is WINS or DNS...what should I check 
  next?
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RE: Not receiving mail

2001-10-19 Thread Campbell, Rob

Tried sending manually through a telnet session?

-Original Message-
From: Todd White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:29 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Not receiving mail

I am testing 2 exchange servers for directory replication but my problem is
that when I send a email to the server in Israel they don't receive the
email going down the VPN.  If this is on our frame it works.  I added a new
zone with A record and MX record for the server in Israel.  I can ping by
name and IP address so I don't think it is WINS or DNS...what should I check
next?

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System Administrator 
LaserComm Inc. 
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972-941-0223 Fax 

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RE: Exchange 5.5

its cumulative, i believe

-Original Message-
From: Theodore White [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:02 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5

I'm installing Exchange 5.5 for the first time. Do I need to install the
previous service packs, or can I just install SP4 and it will cover all the
updates?

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RE: Exchange 5.5

2001-10-19 Thread Dahl, Peter

The latest Exchange service pack is all you need.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5

I'm installing Exchange 5.5 for the first time. Do I need to install the
previous service packs, or can I just install SP4 and it will cover all the
updates?

Thanks in advance.

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Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Mathews, James E.


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Exchange 5.5

2001-10-19 Thread Micciche Robert

Title: RE: Exchange 5.5





Yes, you can simply install SP4.


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 5.5



I'm installing Exchange 5.5 for the first time. Do I need to install the
previous service packs, or can I just install SP4 and it will cover all the
updates?


Thanks in advance.




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RE: Firewall Configuration

2001-10-19 Thread Briggs, Bruce

Title: Firewall Configuration

Where
is your Exchange server and your Outlook clients with respect to the
firewall?
If you
have your Exchange server on the DMZ interface, consider moving it to your
trusted interface.
Most
people feel that having Exchange on the DMZ is worse than having it on the
trusted interface because of the ports, including RPC that need to be
opened.

Bruce Briggs System
Administration State University of NY

Microsoft's solution to this is to create 3 registries for
predefined ports so that outlook tries to connect on port 135 and automatically
select the port you assigned. This solution still creates a
few major problems:
MAC Outlook users can never connect Sometimes remote users can not connect Exchange
connectivity is not stable. we had to reboot the server 2 times in one
week with this setting.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Karen Palmer


You can go to the empty deleted items folder, then select:  tools, recover
deleted items.  


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Error publishing Free/Busy Info

2001-10-19 Thread Justin Silles


Hello All.
WinNT 4.0 SP6a w/ Exchange 5.5 SP4 (Server is PDC).  In MS Outlook the
following error is generated Unable to Publish Free/Busy Data.  An
extensive search on the MSKB shows many articles, I have yet to find one
that fixes the issue.  I'm new at this company and I did not install this
rollout of Exchange OR NT, so I am not sure if there was a faulty setup
process or not.  I have been administering Exchange for quite sometime, I
just have yet to come across an error like this that isn't easy to fix!
I am curious if there are issues with the System Folder (On MS Exchange)
Schedule + Free Busy.  The name of it is really weird, can someone confirm
their name and compare?  Ours is named as:  EX:/o=M-M-S/ou=MAIN.  I am
familiar with Exchange, but I can't for the life of me think of what this
folder's usual name is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
Justin M. Silles
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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread David James


Do you have deleted item retension on?  If so, they can go to tools -
recover deleted items, once the deleted items folder is highlighted in
Outlook.
If not, your'e SOL.

DJ

-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


You'll be able to recover this if deleted item retention is turned on.
Otherwise, if the message was sent internally, it will be in the sent
items folder of the sender (if they haven't deleted) or if it was sent
externally, you may have some joy with your Internet Mail Connector
folders in your exchsrvr folder.

Deleted Item Retention is detailed in Microsoft TechNet article Q249680.

-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:19
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately
emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they
would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange
5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he
claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on
the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Lyle


I just looked it up in the Exchange 5.5 online docs.  

Deleted messages are retained as per the settings of retaining deleted items
in Exchange itself.  As long as you are within that retention period, select
the deleted items folder and then find the Recover deleted items tool in the
Tools pull down.  

The online docs in Exchange state the deleted messages are hidden until they
pass the retention period selected in Exchange.

Lyle

-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Tom.Gray


Hopefully your exchange server has deleted item retention time set to a
number greater than zero.  

Lots of folks set it to 30, which means you can recover deleted mail for 30
days without using a backup tape!

If you have it, all the user needs to do (in outlook 2k) is go to the
deleted items folder and then click TOOLS / Recover deleted items

(BTW, this is a good way to avoid doing Individual Mailbox Backups -- known
as Brick Level Backups)

Good luck.

Tom Gray, Network Engineer
All Kinds of Minds  The Center for Development and Learning
University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Database size


When did this happen? Did I miss something? When did this become regular
maintance? What problem does it prevent/solve?

I have not done a offline defrag in over two years. Do I know how to do one
yes, will I do one in the next two years, probably not. 

Am I a bad admin. Who knows?

ellery 





-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Er, are we exchange admins or users...?

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops
to recover your exchange box.

Like always - never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure of having a valid backup (im paranoid - I always
make sure I have two.)  Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are
accurate and tested (and of course they are!)

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet - MS dont suppose it to to complex a task
that you should contact PSS to find out how to do it.

A list like this is not going to be very useful to people if we all
mollycoddle each other and choose what information we disseminate based
on our audiences supposed intelligence level.

my $0.02



-Original Message-
From: John O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Very Good Advice.  I spent the entire weekend rebuilding my exchange
from
back up and using eseutil before finding out just how dangerous this
actually was.  I came througn unscathed, but it was my wild irish luck
that
got me through it not my brains.



-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Do we really want to be suggesting that without directing them to PSS?

I might run it and you might run it, but what if this guy isn't as savvy
as
we are and he breaks his server?

Eseutil is a dangerous tool that should only be used when extremely
necessary. Personally, I'd leave it the way it is.  When you hire more
people and you receive more email that white space in the database is
just
going to fill up anyway.  Let exchange run its course and you will be a
happy admin.  Start mucking around with utilities you know little about
and
you nor your boss will be very happy.

D

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Normal behaviour.  You need to do an offline defrag, i.e. eseutil.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Gene Nykolyshyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 October 2001 14:49
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: Database size


After deleting hundreds of old accounts, the priv.edb actually grew in
size.  Any insights?

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Murray Freeman


You should set up the deleted items recovery capability, or perhaps you
already have it and don't know that you have it. I've got ours set to 21
days. That means that anyone can go back and recover an item within the last
3 weeks. Fortunately I have plenty of room on my server. I may expand it to
a full month. anything to keep from having to use a tape b/u. If you need
more info, let me know.

Murray

-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin


One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Todd White

Title: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin





In the Admin program highlight the Private Information Store and select Don't Permanently delete items until the store has been backed up and specify the amount of days. Once this is done he can click on Tools recover deleted items from the users Outlook program. 

Todd White
System Administrator
LaserComm Inc.
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-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin



One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this). is there anyway to get this back. We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client. I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
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messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up. 


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RE: Not receiving mail

2001-10-19 Thread Todd White

Title: Message



CheckPoint

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  10:00 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Not 
  receiving mail
  Dunno what kind of firewall you have, but check your VPN connectivity 
  for any kind of errors.
  

-Original Message-From: Todd White 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 
7:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Not 
receiving mail
I am testing 2 
exchange servers for directory replication but my problem is that when I 
send a email to the server in Israel they don't receive the email going down 
the VPN. If this is on our frame it works. I added a new zone 
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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Mathews, James E.

Does having the deleted item retention cause any problems... i.e. slow down
the server or does it just take up space on the box?

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

You can get it back if you have deleted item retention set up on the
exchange server.

In the client highlight the deleted items folder.
Go to tools and click on recover deleted items.

JC

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From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Justin Silles


Yes you can get it back!

Usually you can just go into Outlook (2K), on the menu select Tools/Recover
Deleted Items and this will list all the items that have been recently
deleted, and they can be resorted on a one-on-one basis or as a group.

I hope that helps.
Justin M. Silles
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From:   Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Friday, October 19, 2001 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject:Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

2001-10-19 Thread Schutte, Keith [EPT/FLO]

If you are getting this error on all mailboxes, you may need to rebuild the
site folders.  See Q152960 for details on this procedure.  Careful with
this...

-Original Message-
From: Justin Silles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

Hello All.
WinNT 4.0 SP6a w/ Exchange 5.5 SP4 (Server is PDC).  In MS Outlook the
following error is generated Unable to Publish Free/Busy Data.  An
extensive search on the MSKB shows many articles, I have yet to find one
that fixes the issue.  I'm new at this company and I did not install this
rollout of Exchange OR NT, so I am not sure if there was a faulty setup
process or not.  I have been administering Exchange for quite sometime, I
just have yet to come across an error like this that isn't easy to fix!
I am curious if there are issues with the System Folder (On MS Exchange)
Schedule + Free Busy.  The name of it is really weird, can someone confirm
their name and compare?  Ours is named as:  EX:/o=M-M-S/ou=MAIN.  I am
familiar with Exchange, but I can't for the life of me think of what this
folder's usual name is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
Justin M. Silles
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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

Title: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin





See MS article for DUMPSTERALWAYSON. 


-Original Message-
From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin



One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this). is there anyway to get this back. We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client. I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back. I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up. 


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James


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RE: Database size

You're a great admin and don't you forget it!!!  ;o)

D

-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

When did this happen? Did I miss something? When did this become regular
maintance? What problem does it prevent/solve?

I have not done a offline defrag in over two years. Do I know how to do one
yes, will I do one in the next two years, probably not. 

Am I a bad admin. Who knows?

ellery 

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Er, are we exchange admins or users...?

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB fills
the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops to recover
your exchange box.

Like always - never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure of having a valid backup (im paranoid - I always
make sure I have two.)  Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are accurate
and tested (and of course they are!)

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet - MS dont suppose it to to complex a task that
you should contact PSS to find out how to do it.

A list like this is not going to be very useful to people if we all
mollycoddle each other and choose what information we disseminate based on
our audiences supposed intelligence level.

my $0.02

-Original Message-
From: John O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Very Good Advice.  I spent the entire weekend rebuilding my exchange from
back up and using eseutil before finding out just how dangerous this
actually was.  I came througn unscathed, but it was my wild irish luck that
got me through it not my brains.

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Do we really want to be suggesting that without directing them to PSS?

I might run it and you might run it, but what if this guy isn't as savvy as
we are and he breaks his server?

Eseutil is a dangerous tool that should only be used when extremely
necessary. Personally, I'd leave it the way it is.  When you hire more
people and you receive more email that white space in the database is just
going to fill up anyway.  Let exchange run its course and you will be a
happy admin.  Start mucking around with utilities you know little about and
you nor your boss will be very happy.

D

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Normal behaviour.  You need to do an offline defrag, i.e. eseutil.

Neil

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Posted At: 18 October 2001 14:49
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: Database size

After deleting hundreds of old accounts, the priv.edb actually grew in
size.  Any insights?

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

Items that have been shift-deleted can also be recovered in this way.

-Original Message-
From: Cardoza, Patricia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:38
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

If you have deleted item retention set up on the server then he can go
into
his deleted items folder, and then go to Tools, Recover Deleted Items.
That
will bring up a list of all the items that have been deleted (but not
shift
deleted I believe) within your deleted item retention period.

Patricia

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From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately
emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they
would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange
5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he
claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on
the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: EXCHANGE 2000

2001-10-19 Thread John Eddy


Just as an aside, as an old SBS Support engineer, the easiest way to set
this up is to run through the SBS Internet Connection Wizard on the
To-Do List.  If you have issues with that, pop on over to the
microsoft.public.backoffice.smallbiz2000 group.

John Eddy
Microsoft

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 7:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


Thanks alot I think you've pointed me in the right direction.RRAS is
installed by default.Your info should help out alot.Now if I can just
convince the company to stop selling @!#$%!@#$ before I even learn what
to do I'd be in heaven. Ora Skaggs

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


You don't need to do anything to let exchange know there is a
demand-dial connection. The very nature of the demand-dial connection
are that it will dial your ISP whenever it needs to. You just need to
configure your SMTP Connector as normal then create a Demand-dial
connection on you RRAS server. RRAS is installed by default I think, it
just will need configuring.

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


okay that would explain why Exchange settings don't seem to help.If I
setup RAS how do I get Exchange to know it is a dial on demand
connection?Sorry if these seem like basic questions but I really am out
of my element here.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: EXCHANGE 2000


You should configure a demand-dial connection. This isn't configured on
Exchange 2000 but on a Windows 2000 Routing and Remote Access Server
(these can be on the same servers incidentally).

-Original Message-
From: ORA SKAGGS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 13:48
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: EXCHANGE 2000


Hi All
Help!
My company started farming me out to do SBS 2000 installs.Problem is I
have no Exchange 2000 experience.When I setup the Small Business Server
I can't figure out how to get Exchange working on a dial-up
connection.I've messed with this for hours and can't seem to figure out
if this is even possible.Can I set it up with a dial-up connection and
if so what am I missing?Thanks For any help. Ora Skaggs MCSE


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RE: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

2001-10-19 Thread Boswell Tim


On ours, the free busy is listed as EX:/o=Exchange/ou=xxx, where xxx is the
site name the server is based at. Ours is Ex55 SP4, W2K SP2

HTH

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From: Justin Silles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:32
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Error publishing Free/Busy Info


Hello All.
WinNT 4.0 SP6a w/ Exchange 5.5 SP4 (Server is PDC).  In MS Outlook the
following error is generated Unable to Publish Free/Busy Data.  An
extensive search on the MSKB shows many articles, I have yet to find one
that fixes the issue.  I'm new at this company and I did not install this
rollout of Exchange OR NT, so I am not sure if there was a faulty setup
process or not.  I have been administering Exchange for quite sometime, I
just have yet to come across an error like this that isn't easy to fix!
I am curious if there are issues with the System Folder (On MS Exchange)
Schedule + Free Busy.  The name of it is really weird, can someone confirm
their name and compare?  Ours is named as:  EX:/o=M-M-S/ou=MAIN.  I am
familiar with Exchange, but I can't for the life of me think of what this
folder's usual name is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
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RE: message tracking and reporting

2001-10-19 Thread Simon Taylor


Hi Guiseppe
We make use of BMC Patrol products to manage our hosting environment and so
as they had an exchange agent I decided to deploy this to my exchange box
and it tracks all sorts of usefull stuff. You can basically configure the
agent to alert you when anything reaches preset threshholds etc.
This of course depends on your budget as you will have spend money on the
agents and knowledge modules...
Cheers
Simon

-Original Message-
From: Giuseppe Torchetti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 19 October 2001 16:14
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: message tracking and reporting


Hi exchangers,

Does anyone know of an easy way to track messages and get info on a
particular mailbox. Basically, to get the total number of mails, the senders
and extra

Obviously without going through the logs and writing my own program to parse
this information.
-
Maybe the resource kit? 3rd party?

This is needed for management...

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RE: Non-existant Exch Server


There is no simple reg hack for this. The details of the server are
stored in AD so it needs to be removed from here.

Do you have any other exchange servers other than the one you fixed? If
so, the best way to remove the server from AD is to find the server in
Exchange System Manager and delete it from here.

My feeling though is that this is your only exchange server in which
case this may not be the solution to your problem but just check
anywaysince AD stores this info and you've rebuilt Exchange
server, the old server may still appear in ESM.

If not, you need to delete the old exchange server from AD manually.
This is very dangerous though so use caution here. I can't give you the
exact answer, but I suggest you use ADSI Edit and look under the
Configuration Container/Services/Microsoft Exchange and look for
instances of your old server and delete them.

Please remember, this is an off-the-top-of-my-head thought. Search
TechNet and Knowledge base for supported resolutions to your problem. I
have included this idea as I'm sure any answer MS will provide will be
along these lines.

-Original Message-
From: Shauna Ryall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 15:57
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Non-existant Exch Server


We had a crash a while ago while running a beta of Exchange. All the
data
was lost and to make a long story short, while rejoining the fixed
server
(was a MB issue) back into the BackOffice fold, it was renamed.

There are some users in the AD with beta email addresses listed using
the
other server. When I try to move them to the new server I get an error
that,
of course, it can't locate the old server and the process of moving
dies.

Any suggestions on a reg hack or ?? I have check with Technet but got
squat
and I am fairly new to Exchange.

Exchange 2K as part of the BackOffice 2K server.

TIA

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Team calendars from MS-Add?


Anyone use Team Calendars from MS-Add?

We are just beginning to do some weird strange and exciting new teaming.
This product sounds good but does it  actually add significant functionality
and/or save time?

This is a 50 person office, 9 gig store, running e2k.

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Technical Lead
Northwest Area Foundation
332 Minnesota
e-1201 
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RE: Firewall Configuration

2001-10-19 Thread Zamanian, Behzad

Title: Firewall Configuration

Hi
Bruce,

My
Exchange is in my inside network and I use illegal IP address on the exchange
and use a rule to change requests for the routable address to the illegal
address behind the firewall. another word, it is in my
DMZ network. What do you mean by moving it to the trusted
interface? I have 2 NICs on the firewall, external
one and internal card. my exchange's IP is 192.168.1.10 and the routable
address for it is 128.200.129.10.

Thanks,

-Original Message-From: Briggs, Bruce
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001
8:22 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Firewall
Configuration
Where is your Exchange server and your Outlook clients with respect to
the firewall?
If
you have your Exchange server on the DMZ interface, consider moving it to your
trusted interface.
Most
people feel that having Exchange on the DMZ is worse than having it on the
trusted interface because of the ports, including RPC that need to be
opened.

Bruce Briggs System
Administration State University of NY

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Zamanian, Behzad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, October
18, 2001 6:50 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
Firewall Configuration
Hi everyone,
We use Raptor firewall on NT4 SP6. We
also have Exchange 5.5 and outlook users for MAC and PC
clients. Outlook uses RPC port 135 to handshake with
exchange and as you may know, RPC port is a reserved port for any
NT based firewall and Outlook conflicts with the firewall server on port
135.
Microsoft's solution to this is to create 3 registries for
predefined ports so that outlook tries to connect on port 135 and
automatically select the port you assigned. This solution
still creates a few major problems:
MAC Outlook users can never connect Sometimes remote users can not connect Exchange
connectivity is not stable. we had to reboot the server 2 times in one
week with this setting.
Any ideas?
Thanks,
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RE: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

2001-10-19 Thread Campbell, Rob

That's where the Free/Busy data should be getting published to.  The name is
generated from the organization and site names in you Exchange
configuration.  

 -Original Message-
 From: Justin Silles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:32 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

 Hello All.
 WinNT 4.0 SP6a w/ Exchange 5.5 SP4 (Server is PDC).  In MS Outlook the
 following error is generated Unable to Publish Free/Busy Data.  An
 extensive search on the MSKB shows many articles, I have yet 
 to find one
 that fixes the issue.  I'm new at this company and I did not 
 install this
 rollout of Exchange OR NT, so I am not sure if there was a 
 faulty setup
 process or not.  I have been administering Exchange for quite 
 sometime, I
 just have yet to come across an error like this that isn't 
 easy to fix!
 I am curious if there are issues with the System Folder (On 
 MS Exchange)
 Schedule + Free Busy.  The name of it is really weird, can 
 someone confirm
 their name and compare?  Ours is named as:  
 EX:/o=M-M-S/ou=MAIN.  I am
 familiar with Exchange, but I can't for the life of me think 
 of what this
 folder's usual name is.
 Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 Thanks!!
 Justin M. Silles
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RE: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)

2001-10-19 Thread Jim Holmgren


Thanks everyone for your suggestions!  I knew I could count on you guys!  
I use Ghostscript, but to set that up for 50 or 60 sales drones would be
tedious and I doubt they would have much luck using it.  They all want the
pretty Adobe one-click button to make pdf's right from Office applications.

I can't imaging subjecting them to the horror of actually thinking about
what they are doing ;-)

I will investigate the possibilities of using CERN and a few of the others
that are mentioned.

Thanks Again!

Jim

-Original Message-
From: JT Agnello [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 1:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)


Besides the jaws tool previously mentioned (which I haven't used
personally), adobe acrobat or the ghost set of postscript tools will
help you get any file converted to pdf (print job to postscript file to
pdf). We use the adobe distiller service to monitor a network share,
allowing everyone to drop in postscript files and retrieve out pdf files
that are automatically generated by the monitoring service.

Haven't tried to automate this further via messaging ... however, CERN
offers such an email conversion service, at:

  http://preprints.cern.ch/Convert?emailGuide#codetable

and you might consider emailing their folks (at the supplied support address
on the above page) to ask how they assembled the pieces.

-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Auto-Create PDF file from mailbox (maybe OT)


I apologize in advance if this is a bit off topic, and if anyone can
direct me to another site, please do.
I want my users to be able to send an attachment to a mailbox and have it
automatically returned to them in PDF format.
I know iTrezzo offers a Word to plain text package for the Blackberry that
works this way, does anyone know of something similar for Word to PDF?

Thanks!
Jim

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RE: POP3 issue after disabling relay

2001-10-19 Thread msharik


Ali,  please read this article  make sure you've followed all the steps:

http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696

also available here:
http://downloads.members.tripod.com/ladysun1969/misc/relay.tif 

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To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: POP3 issue after disabling relay


The same thing happened with us.  We had to relay for our Goldmine users
because they do not have this option.  We are closed now and make the
Goldmine users connect through the VPN.  So in our Routing Restrictions tab,
we've checked Hosts and clients that successfully authenticate as well as
Hosts and clients with these IP addresses, then included our private
internal IP range.
However, Ali mention that they *unchecked* Hosts and clients with these IP
addresses to close their relay.  Everything I have read suggests that this
should be *checked* but that no IP addresses should be listed in order to
close the relay.  Either way, checking the box in Outlook/Outlook Express
and even Netscape Mail clients I believe, should fix the problem.
 -Original Message- 
From:   Laura Swartout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Thursday, October 18, 2001 10:06 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject:RE: POP3 issue after disabling relay 
We had the same problem until we had the POP3 users check My server 
requires authentication in Tools-Accounts-Properties-Servers-Outgoing Mail 
Server in Outlook Express. 
-Original Message- 
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:51 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: POP3 issue after disabling relay 
Hello Everyone, 
Specs: 
Windows 2000 server sp1 
Exchange 5.5 sp4 
At one time our Exchange server was setup as a relay agent.  We had numerous

ISPs like mindspring and earthlink block emails stemming from our domain. 
Several days ago we corrected that problem by ensuring our Exchange server 
is no longer setup to relay.  The following steps were done to prohibit 
relaying: 
1.In IMS we unchecked 'Hosts and clients with these IP addresses' 
2.We also unchecked 'Hosts and clients connecting to these internal address 
and remove the ip address and mask of our Exchange server. 
We are having issues with our POP3 users after making these changes to 
disable relaying.  We are getting complaints from users setup as POP3 that 
they cannot send to external email addresses.  They can only send to our 
internal users.  As a temp solution we have asked that our POP3 users use 
OWA to send to outside clients.  At present there are approximately 13 POP3 
users in our company so its not a major issues but just a slight 
inconvenience for them.  Is there a way we can correct this issue and allow 
the POP3 users to send externally?  Does any one have any suggestions?  Any 
assistance would be greatly appreciated. 
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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Murray Freeman

It hasn't caused any problems since we enabled it several months ago.

Murray

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From: Mathews, James E. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

Does having the deleted item retention cause any problems... i.e. slow down
the server or does it just take up space on the box?

-Original Message-
From: Crouthamel, Jonathan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

You can get it back if you have deleted item retention set up on the
exchange server.

In the client highlight the deleted items folder.
Go to tools and click on recover deleted items.

JC

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then immediately emptied
their deleted items folder (and before you ask have no idea why they would
do this).  is there anyway to get this back.  We are running exchange 5.5
with outlook 2k client.  I don't know of anyway to get it back but he claims
that it has happened before and he got them back.  I know we can restore
messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would not be on the
nightly back up.  

Thanks
James

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RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin

2001-10-19 Thread Murray Freeman

Title: RE: Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin



We backup 
nightly, but the point of the deleted items recovery is that you don't have to 
do a restore to a backup server to retrieve a single item. I would highly 
recommend not using that option, but rather just retain the deleted items for a 
period of time depending on space requirements. It's worked for 
us.

Murray

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  Retrieval of deleted item from the recycle bin
  In the Admin program highlight the Private Information Store 
  and select Don't Permanently delete items until the store has been backed up 
  and specify the amount of days. Once this is done he can click on Tools 
  recover deleted items from the users Outlook program. 
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  of deleted item from the recycle bin 
  One of the users at our firm deleted an email and then 
  immediately emptied their deleted items folder (and 
  before you ask have no idea why they would do 
  this). is there anyway to get this back. We are running exchange 
  5.5 with outlook 2k client. I don't know of 
  anyway to get it back but he claims that it has 
  happened before and he got them back. I know we can restore 
  messages from backup but he deleted it the same day so would 
  not be on the nightly back up. 
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RE: message tracking and reporting

2001-10-19 Thread Mood, Steve

Think MELIA might fit the bill.

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 11:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: message tracking and reporting

Hi exchangers,

Does anyone know of an easy way to track messages and get info on a
particular mailbox.
Basically, to get the total number of mails, the senders and extra

Obviously without going through the logs and writing my own program to parse
this information.
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Maybe the resource kit? 3rd party?

This is needed for management...

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RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you can' t

2001-10-19 Thread Steve Jacobson

[EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

I might be wrong here because my knowledge of 5.5 is rusty, but I
thought all you needed to do was add the secondary email address
[EMAIL PROTECTED] to a mailbox and that mailbox would now
receive all email addressed to your domain that isn't a valid
recipient.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:52
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

How do I set up a catch all postmaster account that accepts all mail
except those with specific mailboxes WITHOUT having to build a list of
bogus e-mail address that will be accepted.

-Original Message-
From: Robin Lawrie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

I've not read all of this email so I may be repeating what has already
been said, so apologies if that is the case, but there are 2 things
you
can do.

You can set up a 'catch-all' postmaster account that would receive
these
emails, or you can add these email addresses as secondary proxy email
addresses to other mailboxes, i.e. the administrators.

-Original Message-
From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 14:21
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

Yes, I realized that after I sent it.  The real problem is that I am
up to over 60 non-existent e-mail addresses.  I don't want to have to
track each bounce and manually add it to the distribution list.  More
preferably, I would like to block (issue a reject) the message before
it even gets into the input queue.  This might discourage the
spammers.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:43 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: FW: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can' t

 The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:
an NDR will be sent to the sender.

Huh?  If you assign an smtp address to a DL with no members, the
message
just disappears  no NDR is sent.

or am I just confused 'cause I've been sick?

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From: Steve Jacobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?-I guess you
can't

From the comments here, it seems that you can't set up exchange 5.5 to
do
what I was originally looking to do:  Either reject outright a message
without a mailbox, or simply not send an NDR for a message without a
mailbox.

This seems to be what I am hearing?  Is this correct?

The idea of dropping the messages in a black hole won't do what I
wish:  an
NDR will be sent to the sender.

Steve Jacobson
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 2:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

Always a good thing to think, especially if it reduces your
workload/aggravation quotient.
-Original Message-
From: Toni, Randy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 10:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

That's a good idea (I'll create it but then just won't tell anyone
else -
theoretically still busy)
Now that's 2 people on this list that have made me think today.  Is
this a
good thing?  :-)
 -Original Message-
 From: Don Ely [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: October 17, 2001 11:59 AM
 To:   MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject:  RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

 Because if I create a Black Hole I/we don't have to do anything...

   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2001 8:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: How can you reject messages in Exchange 5.5?

   why don't you create a public folder, make it visible, add
those
 smtp addresses into it and set it to clear itself out every day.

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RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Lefkovics, William


Well, based on not using eseutil without reason, you're a fine admin.

Use of the utility is the exception (major mailbox migration, deleteion of
lots of data) not the rule (regular use).

I would even say, regular use of the utility is the opposite of maintenance.
Yes, it has it's place.

William



-Original Message-
From: Ellery July [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


When did this happen? Did I miss something? When did this become regular
maintance? What problem does it prevent/solve?

I have not done a offline defrag in over two years. Do I know how to do one
yes, will I do one in the next two years, probably not. 

Am I a bad admin. Who knows?

ellery 





-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:34 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Er, are we exchange admins or users...?

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB fills
the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops to recover
your exchange box.

Like always - never make a change or perform any task of significance
without being 110% sure of having a valid backup (im paranoid - I always
make sure I have two.)  Building an exchange box and recovering the info
stores should take no where near a weekend if your DRP policies are accurate
and tested (and of course they are!)

Additionally information regarding using eseutil to defrag priv.edb is
freely available in technet - MS dont suppose it to to complex a task that
you should contact PSS to find out how to do it.

A list like this is not going to be very useful to people if we all
mollycoddle each other and choose what information we disseminate based on
our audiences supposed intelligence level.

my $0.02



-Original Message-
From: John O'Connor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:59 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Very Good Advice.  I spent the entire weekend rebuilding my exchange from
back up and using eseutil before finding out just how dangerous this
actually was.  I came througn unscathed, but it was my wild irish luck that
got me through it not my brains.



-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Do we really want to be suggesting that without directing them to PSS?

I might run it and you might run it, but what if this guy isn't as savvy as
we are and he breaks his server?

Eseutil is a dangerous tool that should only be used when extremely
necessary. Personally, I'd leave it the way it is.  When you hire more
people and you receive more email that white space in the database is just
going to fill up anyway.  Let exchange run its course and you will be a
happy admin.  Start mucking around with utilities you know little about and
you nor your boss will be very happy.

D

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 6:49 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size


Normal behaviour.  You need to do an offline defrag, i.e. eseutil.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Gene Nykolyshyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: 18 October 2001 14:49
Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List
Conversation: Database size
Subject: Database size


After deleting hundreds of old accounts, the priv.edb actually grew in
size.  Any insights?

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RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Julie Lienemann

What are your backup suggestions? I notice you refer to Backup Exec, online
backups etc.

Thanks Julie

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

400 users or a 1000 users, it doesn't particularly matter.  If you have the
disk space, leave the database alone.

As an example, a rater recent one I might add, I ran eseutil (the hard
repair) on a DB the other night.  Now granted, they didn't have any backups
so they were already up sh!t creek without a paddle.  When all was said and
done, they wound up losing emails and some attachments.  This utility is a
very nasty beast, so one should exercise extreme caution when running it.

Of course, they now have fully functional and reliable backups.  For some
reason, some lovely admin thought you should use BE with the Exchange Agent,
backup all of the exchsrvr directories, do the online backups, do brick
level backups, and last but not least have circular logging enabled.
Needless to say, sparks were shooting out of mine eyes...

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

err - we were supporting in excess of 400 users on one box

If you have a fairly static environment then there is no reason that the db
would blow out...  The original mail that sparked all this described a
situation where 50 odd mailboxes had been removed from the store and the db
did not shrink.  This is to be expected because the online defrag cannot
reclaim white space from the db. The only way to reclaim that space (should
you want to :) ) is to run an offline.

Nick 

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb and
about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably) regular
interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a 5.5 site -
was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to defrag.  regular
 everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little stroppy if I was
doing an offline every night :) )

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Nick, 

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB 
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops 
to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe are
still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the list
yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a valid
backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a figure
of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it if
we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not to
because of the possibility of the misuse of that information. Everyone
should be aware that not everything posted is correct or properly
articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use suggestions from
the list they should ensure that they have a fallback position ALWAYS!

(And I dont think I implied that all information regarding eseutil was
available on technet either - merely how to perform an offline defrag.)

Neway - this is quite of topic now, so thanks for your feedback Don and
William - I trust you understand the light in which I made my comments.

Nick

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Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:36 PM

RE: Error publishing Free/Busy Info

2001-10-19 Thread Lyle


I see that locally only occassionally, but the remote users see it about
once a day.  It's just a connectivity issue.  Outlook is trying to ask the
Exchange server for any updates to the calendar and the communication
failed.  could be a busy ethernet segment.  Wan timeout issue. Busy server
and didn't answer quick enough for Outlook.  

Unless it happens every 10 minutes, forget about it. 

-Original Message-
From: Justin Silles [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 10:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Error publishing Free/Busy Info


Hello All.
WinNT 4.0 SP6a w/ Exchange 5.5 SP4 (Server is PDC).  In MS Outlook the
following error is generated Unable to Publish Free/Busy Data.  An
extensive search on the MSKB shows many articles, I have yet to find one
that fixes the issue.  I'm new at this company and I did not install this
rollout of Exchange OR NT, so I am not sure if there was a faulty setup
process or not.  I have been administering Exchange for quite sometime, I
just have yet to come across an error like this that isn't easy to fix!
I am curious if there are issues with the System Folder (On MS Exchange)
Schedule + Free Busy.  The name of it is really weird, can someone confirm
their name and compare?  Ours is named as:  EX:/o=M-M-S/ou=MAIN.  I am
familiar with Exchange, but I can't for the life of me think of what this
folder's usual name is.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks!!
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RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? ------NOT!!! -- depen ds on the features


Interestingly, I number of people have asked me the same question. My first
response is to just yell back NO.

Now I ask what is it about exchange 2000 that you feel a need to upgrade?
Upgrade for Upgrade or is there some feature(s) you  need. If it is a
feature there are very good third party programs which will give you lots of
the new features you get in E2K that run very well and cheaper on E5.5.

So what features do you want from E2K that you can not get from E5.5? May we
can help?

ellery july
Technical Lead
Northwest Area Foundation
332 Minnesota
e-1201 
St. Paul, MN 55101
email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
phone - 651-225-3895 
fax   - 651-225-7695  

-Original Message-
From: John Sparrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:32 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not?? --NOT!!!


thanks everyone

kinda get the picture :D

had a feeling that, that was the case, i guess i was hoping that there was
some sort of workaround or something

thnaks tho

John Sparrow
IT Support Assistant
Computer Department
Travco Ltd, London
http://www.travco.co.uk


-Original Message-
From: Rick Gasper [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


You need to have at least windows 2k and sp1 with active directory running.

I am sure you will get the same response many more times.

here is everything you need to know:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/evaluation/sysreq/default.asp

Rick Gasper

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From: John Sparrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:47 AM
Subject: Exchange 2k on NT4?? possible or not??


 hi all

 sorry to be a pain, think i may be a little dumb here :D

 what sort of problems would be likely to occur if i install ex2k on an NT
 box??

 currently running a straight NT4 domain with the exception of 2 win2k pro
 workstations, all servers running nt4 sp6a

 probably talking out my ass again, sorry people,..its
friday

 John Sparrow
 IT Support Assistant
 Computer Department
 Travco Ltd, London
 http://www.travco.co.uk


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RE: Database size

2001-10-19 Thread Lefkovics, William

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/BestDBManage.as
p

William

-Original Message-
From: Julie Lienemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 9:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

What are your backup suggestions? I notice you refer to Backup Exec, online
backups etc.

Thanks Julie

-Original Message-
From: Don Ely [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 8:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

400 users or a 1000 users, it doesn't particularly matter.  If you have the
disk space, leave the database alone.

As an example, a rater recent one I might add, I ran eseutil (the hard
repair) on a DB the other night.  Now granted, they didn't have any backups
so they were already up sh!t creek without a paddle.  When all was said and
done, they wound up losing emails and some attachments.  This utility is a
very nasty beast, so one should exercise extreme caution when running it.

Of course, they now have fully functional and reliable backups.  For some
reason, some lovely admin thought you should use BE with the Exchange Agent,
backup all of the exchsrvr directories, do the online backups, do brick
level backups, and last but not least have circular logging enabled.
Needless to say, sparks were shooting out of mine eyes...

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 12:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

err - we were supporting in excess of 400 users on one box

If you have a fairly static environment then there is no reason that the db
would blow out...  The original mail that sparked all this described a
situation where 50 odd mailboxes had been removed from the store and the db
did not shrink.  This is to be expected because the online defrag cannot
reclaim white space from the db. The only way to reclaim that space (should
you want to :) ) is to run an offline.

Nick 

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

60+ users, running Exchange 5.5 std edition for about 4 years. Never
once
ran an offline defrag. I've got about 16mb white space in my priv.edb and
about 4mb in my pub.edb.

Online maintenance seems to be doing a pretty good job in our environment.

Regards,

Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  

-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 11:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

hehe - I think so - by regular I meant occuring at a (reasonably) regular
interval. ie every 6 months or so - which when I was admining a 5.5 site -
was how often I took the servers offline for a few hours to defrag.  regular
 everyday!!... - (I think my users would be a little stroppy if I was
doing an offline every night :) )

-Original Message-
From: Sean Martin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 5:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Nick, 

Here's the first paragraph in your original email.

Offline defrag is necessary regular maintenance task, and if your DB 
fills the disk at any time youll be jumping through very similar hoops 
to recover your exchange box.

Perhaps we miss understood?

Sean
-Original Message-
From: Nick Bradford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2001 9:08 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Database size

Point taken re only if you have the 16Gb limit, however the points to
writing that post were not specific to the defrag issue and I believe are
still pertinent (sorry about rehashing old material - I joined the list
yesterday.  Ill keep my mouth shut now...)

1 - Any Admin performing any task other than the ordinary every day
maintenance (and I dont believe I mentioned that an Offline Defrag was
everyday maintenance :) ) should be absolutely sure that they have a valid
backup, and are familiar with their sites DRP practices.

2 - Reread step 1 (I suspect I dont have to point out that 110% is a figure
of speech)

3 - People reading and contributing to this list will get more out of it if
we actually provide detailed and concise info, rather than choose not to
because of the possibility of the misuse of that information. Everyone
should be aware that not everything posted is correct or properly
articulated (as I just proved) and if they choose to use suggestions from
the list they should ensure that they have a fallback position ALWAYS!

(And I dont think I implied that all information regarding eseutil was
available on technet either - merely how to perform an offline defrag.)

RE: Server sizing

2001-10-19 Thread Sean Martin


Plus a couple of other drives for the logs, RAID1 as well.

Regards,
 
Sean Martin, MCSE
Network Administrator
Ribelin Lowell  Company
Insurance Brokers, Inc.
3111 C Street, Suite 300
Anchorage, Alaska 99503
Ph: (907) 561-1250
Fax: (907) 561-4315
Cell: (907) 229-0885
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: WEAVER, Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2001 4:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Server sizing


JK
Sorry forgot to add ... storage would be something like an 18GB Hard Drive
for the DB's (3 for RAID5) and 2 x 9GB for the Operating System :).
If you can do a Hot Spare, then all the better

Simon Weaver
NT Domain Administrator
Ext. 5544
Tel: 02392-705544 (Direct Dial)
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-Original Message-
From: Jonathan K [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 19 October 2001 01:03:PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Server sizing

I just need some suggestions on server sizing and configuration.  I am
new to using Exchange and I want to verify/confirm some information and
outside vendor is giving me.  I have about 30 users that I want to put
on exchange 2k.  I need to determine the server hardware config.  (ie.
hard drive space, cpu, etc.).

Thanks everyone for all your help.

JK

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RE: Database size