Re: OT: Computer Haikus

2008-02-07 Thread Andrew McLaren

Your friend didn't write them...

http://archive.salon.com/21st/chal/1998/02/10chal2.html


Andrew McLaren


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of “Computer 
dudes and dudettes”


I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.

 


Your file was so big.
It might be very useful
But now it is gone.

The web site you seek
Cannot be located but
Countless more exist.

Chaos reigns within.
Reflect, repent and reboot.
Order shall return.

Windows XP crashed.
I am the Blue Screen of Death.
No one hears your screams.

Program aborting:
Close all that you have worked on.
You ask far too much.

First snow, then silence.
The thousand-dollar screen dies
So beautifully.

Stay the patient course.
Of little worth is your ire.
The network is down.

A crash reduces
Your expensive computer
To a simple stone.

Three things are certain:
Death, taxes and lost data.
Guess which has occurred.

You step in the stream
But the water has moved on.
This page is not here.

Out of memory.
We wish to hold the whole sky
But we never will.

Having been erased,
The document you're seeking
Must now be retyped.

Serious error.
All shortcuts have disappeared.
Screen. Mind. Both are blank.

 


Grant W. Coleman


 





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RE: OT: Computer Haikus

2008-02-07 Thread Andy Shook
Walk up behind him while he's on the phone and let a silent but deadly
loose on him.  That's a common prank in these parts

Shook
http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook



  -Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT: Computer Haikus

Thank you Andrew, but I think that has been substantiated at this point,
we are now at how to gain revenge on him by computer pranks and
deviousness.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Computer Haikus

Your friend didn't write them...

http://archive.salon.com/21st/chal/1998/02/10chal2.html


Andrew McLaren


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of Computer 
 dudes and dudettes
 
 I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.
 
  
 
 Your file was so big.
 It might be very useful
 But now it is gone.
 
 The web site you seek
 Cannot be located but
 Countless more exist.
 
 Chaos reigns within.
 Reflect, repent and reboot.
 Order shall return.
 
 Windows XP crashed.
 I am the Blue Screen of Death.
 No one hears your screams.
 
 Program aborting:
 Close all that you have worked on.
 You ask far too much.
 
 First snow, then silence.
 The thousand-dollar screen dies
 So beautifully.
 
 Stay the patient course.
 Of little worth is your ire.
 The network is down.
 
 A crash reduces
 Your expensive computer
 To a simple stone.
 
 Three things are certain:
 Death, taxes and lost data.
 Guess which has occurred.
 
 You step in the stream
 But the water has moved on.
 This page is not here.
 
 Out of memory.
 We wish to hold the whole sky
 But we never will.
 
 Having been erased,
 The document you're seeking
 Must now be retyped.
 
 Serious error.
 All shortcuts have disappeared.
 Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
 
  
 
 Grant W. Coleman
 
 
  
 
 

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RE: OT: Computer Haikus

2008-02-07 Thread gsweers
Thank you Andrew, but I think that has been substantiated at this point,
we are now at how to gain revenge on him by computer pranks and
deviousness.

-Original Message-
From: Andrew McLaren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT: Computer Haikus

Your friend didn't write them...

http://archive.salon.com/21st/chal/1998/02/10chal2.html


Andrew McLaren


[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
 A friend of mine wrote this and he wanted the opinions of Computer 
 dudes and dudettes
 
 I promised him I would post it, I find it quite good.
 
  
 
 Your file was so big.
 It might be very useful
 But now it is gone.
 
 The web site you seek
 Cannot be located but
 Countless more exist.
 
 Chaos reigns within.
 Reflect, repent and reboot.
 Order shall return.
 
 Windows XP crashed.
 I am the Blue Screen of Death.
 No one hears your screams.
 
 Program aborting:
 Close all that you have worked on.
 You ask far too much.
 
 First snow, then silence.
 The thousand-dollar screen dies
 So beautifully.
 
 Stay the patient course.
 Of little worth is your ire.
 The network is down.
 
 A crash reduces
 Your expensive computer
 To a simple stone.
 
 Three things are certain:
 Death, taxes and lost data.
 Guess which has occurred.
 
 You step in the stream
 But the water has moved on.
 This page is not here.
 
 Out of memory.
 We wish to hold the whole sky
 But we never will.
 
 Having been erased,
 The document you're seeking
 Must now be retyped.
 
 Serious error.
 All shortcuts have disappeared.
 Screen. Mind. Both are blank.
 
  
 
 Grant W. Coleman
 
 
  
 
 

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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread John Hornbuckle
When I was transplanted from the south to NY as a kid, one of my
teachers actually told my mom that I was too laid back. Apparently it
was a flaw of mine that I wasn't as uptight and fast-talking as the
Yankees!

 

 

 

John

 

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 

 

luv? sweetie or darlin' is MUCH more likely.

 

I actually thought about a Southern theme...but then I remembered when I
moved to Philadelphia how many times I was asked to speak more clearly
and more quickly...

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread John Hornbuckle
In this area it's luh-FAY-et.



-Original Message-
From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:56 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

You mean La Feet county?

Then again there are different pronunciations of Beaufort, North
Carolina and Beaufort South Carolina, as well as Houston County, Georgia
and Houston, Texas.


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823

A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



Yep! And I also correctly pronounce Lafayette (as in Lafayette
County).

 

 

 

John

 

From: John Cook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 

 

I'm with you, I'll bet you're the only other one here that can correctly
pronounce Alachua or Micanopy.

 

John W. Cook

System Administrator

Partnership For Strong Families

315 SE 2nd Ave

Gainesville, Fl 32601

Office (352) 393-2741 x320

Cell (352) 215-6944

Fax (352) 393-2746

MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+

 

From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:18 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 

 

Well, where I live North Carolina is just about Yankee territory-so that
doesn't surprise me!

 

;-)

 

Seriously, I'm in north Florida. People don't think of us as the south,
but that's because they've only been to places like Orlando and Miami.
Up here, we're just about a part of Georgia and Alabama. I've never
heard of anyone putting sugar in grits except northerners. But like I
said, folks from NC are northerners to us!

 

 

John

 

 

From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:31 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 

 

I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally from
the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.  

 

Andy



From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 

 

11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or an adverb.

I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
say around here.

13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking at
the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
year later we left NY and headed south again!

15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.

A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has
actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.

16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.

With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.

19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.

Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
want tea that WASN'T sweet?!

20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little
old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and go your own way.

In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart. For
example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or, Joe's
collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


 



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RE: UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread Eric Wittersheim
UCE Archive Explorer works well for me.

 

From: vbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: UceArchive Folder

 

I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I
found thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I
could delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I
am not junking anything important.

 

I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to gotdotnet.com but this site has been closed down. The other
site was still there but with the following:

...

I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion.
This is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to
a version that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio
2005. 

There are several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure
before going any further. And I expect this will go away using a more
state-of-the-art platform. 

---

I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors.

 

Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress

 

Thanks

 

 

 


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UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread vbs
I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I found
thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I could
delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I am not
junking anything important.

I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to gotdotnet.com but this site has been closed down. The other site
was still there but with the following:
...
I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion. This
is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to a version
that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio 2005. There are
several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure before going any
further. And I expect this will go away using a more state-of-the-art
platform.
---
I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors.

Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress

Thanks

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RE: Exchange 2007

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

Yes they were done with windows backup

 

From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007

 

 

I'm confused.

 

These are flat file backups, not Exchange aware backups?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

Inter America Data Florida LLC

1987 NW 88 Court Suite 201

Doral, Fl 33172

Office # (305)443-0331 x1201

Cell # (786)282-4838

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Heaton
, that place sells cinnamon toothpicks...haven't had those in years.



Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,

 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip

 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general 
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real 
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or 
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover

 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and

 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea

 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea 
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Barsodi.John
  

Did the bounce back say Don't use stationary, that's so 90's ?

 

 

From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Yes I resubmitted the email due to a bounce back message

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Has anyone else received this post three times ?

 

CFee

 

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Sounds like a Viagra commercial...  :-) 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:51 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

?!  WTH are you guys talking about?

On Feb 6, 2008 9:42 AM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:




 If your spoon can't stand up on its own, the tea ain't no good.




 Shook

 http://www.linkedin.com/in/andyshook
 


 From: Bob Fronk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:42 AM

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







 You are right... Tea should be almost a syrup consistency






 Bob Fronk








 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:43 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 I was born and bred in a small town in NC.



 I'll never forget how shocked I was when first I went up north
 (Philadelphia in this case), and I ordered tea, and they brought me
boiling
 water and a teabag.




 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com




 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.







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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

Sorry I resent the email due to a bounce back 

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Ya, but with different subject lines each time...lol.

 

Joe Heaton

 

 



From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

Has anyone else received this post three times ?

 

CFee

 

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Andy Shook
Don says those taste like donkey balls...

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
Ooo, I'll bet you liked the selections in tne adult section better
:) 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

, that place sells cinnamon toothpicks...haven't had those in years.



Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,

 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip

 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general 
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real 
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or 
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover

 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and

 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea

 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea 
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Don Ely
TVK gave me some insights...

On Feb 7, 2008 8:36 AM, Scot Parsons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 He knows what donkey balls taste like?

 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:27 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 Don says those taste like donkey balls...

 Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:24 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

  http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

 Granted... it's an aquired taste.

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

 On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 
  Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
  And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
  sorghum, and breeches...
 
  
 
 
  From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   Southernisms:
 
 
 
 
  1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
 and a
  conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.
 
 
  2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
  greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.
 
 
  3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
  direction of yonder.
 
 
  4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
 in:
  Going to town, be back directly.
 
 
  5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
 not a
  request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
 little
  bowl on the middle of the table.
 
 
  6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
 not
  use the term, but they know the concept well.
 
 
  7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
 of
  solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
 chicken and
  a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
  crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)
 
 
  8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
 right
  near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
 road can
  be 1 mile or 20.
 
 
  9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
 between
  a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.
 
 
  10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
 flashing
  turn signal is actually going to make a turn.
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
 verb, or
  an adverb.
 
 
  12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
 resident
  of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
  something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.
 
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
 don't do
  queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
 everybody!
 
  14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
  they're related, even if only by marriage.
 
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
 
  16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
 
 
  17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
  coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
 food;
  and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.
 
 
  18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
 you
  know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!
 
 
  19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
  indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
  unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.
 
 
  20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
 little old
  ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
 heart and
  go your own way.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Sam Cayze
1000 really isn't much if the messages are small.  You could create
another SMTP queue that has connection limits so messages will trickle
out slower.   (Exchange will try to blast them all out at once by
default).

Someone will mention Blat too.  That can help in feeding the messages
slower too.

I've done about 20,000 in a day without problems...  on a 1.5 T1.

You could even script something that slowly drops messages in the pickup
folder I suppose...


-Original Message-
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:41 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mass emailing?

For a one-time mailing?

Use blat.exe - it's a nice tool that you can put in a 'for' loop, and
run it against a text file with your customer emails in it.

On Feb 7, 2008 10:29 AM, Steve Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the
price of paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales
department has asked me to come up with a way to send an email to about
1000 of our biggest customers, explaining the increase and the price
increases that will result. The recipients are all existing customers,
but I'm concerned nonetheless with running afoul of spam lists and such.

 Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

 We're on Exchange 2007.

 Steve

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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread John Cook
Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:47 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007 migration

Hi,

  We have a SBS 2003 running Exchange 2003.

  I'm reading through the self-paced training kit of Exchange 2007 and
the book walks you through the steps to take for preparing the domain
controller and the current exchange server to perform the migration.

  The book says that We need to upgrade Exchange 2003 to SP2. I'm not
100% if it refers to the a SP2 of Exchange or Windows Server or both.

  Can anyone help me out?

  Miguel


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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Roger Wright
Take a look at GroupMail Pro.  The outbound message traffic can be
staggered so you're not blasting constantly.


Roger Wright
Network Administrator
Evatone, Inc.
727.572.7076  x388


Man will occasionally stumble over the truth, but most times he will
pick himself up and carry on.- Winston Churchill


-Original Message-
From: Steve Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Mass emailing?



We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the price
of paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales department
has asked me to come up with a way to send an email to about 1000 of our
biggest customers, explaining the increase and the price increases that
will result. The recipients are all existing customers, but I'm
concerned nonetheless with running afoul of spam lists and such.

Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

We're on Exchange 2007.

Steve

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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM
That should be 'Diner' not Dinner ...

-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:35 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

It also means they probably have a sink in the bathroom.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the food.
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or oatmeal.

Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes it
(and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls), it's got
to be good!  :-)



On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
(ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.


 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
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group
 in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among 
 you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the 
 Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


 -Original Message-
 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 you mean porridge?
 Im glad you told me what Hominy is 

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never

 be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
the
 way.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 Grits?

 John, UK.

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my

 father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
from
 the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)

 and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.



 Andy

 

 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all






 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a 
 verb, or an adverb.

 I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we

 say around here.

 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We 
 don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to

 everybody!

 I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New

 York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking
at
 the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a

 year later we left NY and headed south again!

 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.

 A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
has
 actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.

 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.

 With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.

 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea

 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea 
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.

 Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
 If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone 
 want tea that WASN'T sweet?!

 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little
 old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her 
 heart and go your own way.

 In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being 
 considered 

Re: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Durf
Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1 worth of
bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to have a
good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP virtual
server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing list is.

Look up Constant Contact, and mention to Nancy Freitag that Connor referred
you.  They do an amazing job.  All they do are (verified, non-spam) mass
mailing, and are extremely professional.


-- Durf

On Feb 7, 2008 1:29 PM, Steve Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the price of
 paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales department has
 asked me to come up with a way to send an email to about 1000 of our biggest
 customers, explaining the increase and the price increases that will result.
 The recipients are all existing customers, but I'm concerned nonetheless
 with running afoul of spam lists and such.

 Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

 We're on Exchange 2007.

 Steve

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OOO Test Please

2008-02-07 Thread Sam Cayze
Haven't used OOO since I tried my fix back a few months ago.

It's on now.  Please Let me know if you receive one from me, thanks.

Sam

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007) 2. Out of 
office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
This is the official process:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb124011(EXCHG.80).aspx

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

 

 

I'm in the process of upgrading our environment from Exchange 2003 to 2007.

 

I have an immediate need to eliminate the email relays in the DMZ that are
being used by Exchange 2003.  I have an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport server
in the site, and a pair of Edge Transport servers in the DMZ that I would
like to use as the internet mail transport for the Exchange 2003
environment.

 

Currently I have all inbound internet email going through the Edge and Hub
servers and then being sent on the the Exchange 2003 bridgehead, and working
fine.

 

Outbound is more problematic.  There is a Send connector defined for
internet email on the Hub and Edge servers, but the Exchange 2003 bridgehead
can't seem to use it.  Any attempt to send outbound internet email from the
2003 bridgehead to the 2007 Hub Transport results in Unable to relay..

 

I can get it to work by adding * as an accepted domain on the 2007 side, but
that makes the Hub server an open relay.  I can mitigate that by restricting
the default receive connector to only accepting a connection from the 2003
bridgehead, but the edge synchronization propagates that setting the Edge
servers, and they become open relays.

 

I think I can get it to work by eliminating the edge subscriptions and
manually configuring send and receive connectors on the Edge servers, but it
seems like there ought to be a better way.

 

Anyone have any expertise in this kind of configuration?



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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread John Cook
I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
Nope, not at all.  And its the best diner around. I love diners, and I
drive 15 miles out of my wa through the city of Boston to go to this
one - almost every Saturday and Sunday.

- Its retro
- They play 50's 60's music depending on the day/time
- Wait staff is quick
- Everyone is happy/friendly (seriously)
- Food is fresh/hot/fast
- Portions are large
- And most importantly: the food is damn tasty

I dont know why or when it started, but this is also one of those
local places that candidate's drop by followed by TV crews so they
can talk to real people.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=qhl=engeocode=q=boston,+Mike's+City+Dinerie=UTF8ll=42.358671,-71.068153spn=0.091203,0.075874z=13iwloc=Aom=0

http://boston.citysearch.com/profile/4732401/boston_ma/mike_s_city_diner.html


On Feb 7, 2008 1:23 PM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Not that there's anything wrong with that...

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:38 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 Ha!

 Well, let me tell you something to give you a better perspective on
 the majority of the staff and patrons at many establishments in the
 sound end of Boston:  it has a very large gay community.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_End,_Boston,_Massachusetts#Diversity


 On Feb 7, 2008 12:24 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the
 food.
  ;-)
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues

  Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
  I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
  weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
  oatmeal.
 
  Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
  Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
  it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
  it's got to be good!  :-)
 
 
 
  On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
  (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
  
  
   John H. Matteson, Jr.
   Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
   FOB Orgun-E
   Afghanistan
   DSN - 318 431 8001
   VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
   Iridium - 717.633.3823
  
   A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
  group
   in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes
 among
   you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under
 the
   Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
   you mean porridge?
   Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
  
   
  
   From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should
 never
   be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
  the
   way.
  
   Joe Heaton
  
  
   
  
   From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   Grits?
  
   John, UK.
  
   
  
   From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits...
 my
   father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
  
   Joe Heaton
  
  
   
  
   From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
  
   I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
  from
   the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee
 border)
   and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
  
  
  
   Andy
  
   
  
   From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
  
  
   11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
   verb, or an adverb.
  
   I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as
 we
   say around here.
  
   13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
   don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're 

RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
Not that easy.

 

I've got several other smtp connectors on that bridgehead that are going
to involve re-configuring other appliances and servers to change their
mail routing.  To complicate it further, the HT server sits in a
different network than the 2003 bridgehead (vlan/network segmentation
project), so I can't just move the IP address.

 



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

 

 

Can you eliminate the 2003 bridgehead and have the remaining 2003
servers route through the hub? When I did ours there was no bridgehead,
but as soon as I put up a 2007 hub the 2003 server instantly started
routing via the hub on its ownI remember that very clearly because I
was not expecting that and had to do a quick fix up on the outbound IP
address mapping so the rDNS was valid.

 

 

 

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

 

 

I'm in the process of upgrading our environment from Exchange 2003 to
2007.

 

I have an immediate need to eliminate the email relays in the DMZ that
are being used by Exchange 2003.  I have an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport
server in the site, and a pair of Edge Transport servers in the DMZ that
I would like to use as the internet mail transport for the Exchange 2003
environment.

 

Currently I have all inbound internet email going through the Edge and
Hub servers and then being sent on the the Exchange 2003 bridgehead, and
working fine.

 

Outbound is more problematic.  There is a Send connector defined for
internet email on the Hub and Edge servers, but the Exchange 2003
bridgehead can't seem to use it.  Any attempt to send outbound internet
email from the 2003 bridgehead to the 2007 Hub Transport results in
Unable to relay..

 

I can get it to work by adding * as an accepted domain on the 2007 side,
but that makes the Hub server an open relay.  I can mitigate that by
restricting the default receive connector to only accepting a connection
from the 2003 bridgehead, but the edge synchronization propagates that
setting the Edge servers, and they become open relays.

 

I think I can get it to work by eliminating the edge subscriptions and
manually configuring send and receive connectors on the Edge servers,
but it seems like there ought to be a better way.

 

Anyone have any expertise in this kind of configuration?



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RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

2008-02-07 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Can you eliminate the 2003 bridgehead and have the remaining 2003 servers route 
through the hub? When I did ours there was no bridgehead, but as soon as I put 
up a 2007 hub the 2003 server instantly started routing via the hub on its 
ownI remember that very clearly because I was not expecting that and had to 
do a quick fix up on the outbound IP address mapping so the rDNS was valid.



From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.


I'm in the process of upgrading our environment from Exchange 2003 to 2007.

I have an immediate need to eliminate the email relays in the DMZ that are 
being used by Exchange 2003.  I have an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport server in 
the site, and a pair of Edge Transport servers in the DMZ that I would like to 
use as the internet mail transport for the Exchange 2003 environment.

Currently I have all inbound internet email going through the Edge and Hub 
servers and then being sent on the the Exchange 2003 bridgehead, and working 
fine.

Outbound is more problematic.  There is a Send connector defined for internet 
email on the Hub and Edge servers, but the Exchange 2003 bridgehead can't seem 
to use it.  Any attempt to send outbound internet email from the 2003 
bridgehead to the 2007 Hub Transport results in Unable to relay..

I can get it to work by adding * as an accepted domain on the 2007 side, but 
that makes the Hub server an open relay.  I can mitigate that by restricting 
the default receive connector to only accepting a connection from the 2003 
bridgehead, but the edge synchronization propagates that setting the Edge 
servers, and they become open relays.

I think I can get it to work by eliminating the edge subscriptions and manually 
configuring send and receive connectors on the Edge servers, but it seems like 
there ought to be a better way.

Anyone have any expertise in this kind of configuration?

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Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Miguel Gonzalez Castaños

Hi,

 We have a SBS 2003 running Exchange 2003.

 I'm reading through the self-paced training kit of Exchange 2007 and 
the book walks you through the steps to take for preparing the domain 
controller and the current exchange server to perform the migration.


 The book says that We need to upgrade Exchange 2003 to SP2. I'm not 
100% if it refers to the a SP2 of Exchange or Windows Server or both.


 Can anyone help me out?

 Miguel


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Re: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread sriram3
Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.  

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :) 

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.  
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Barsodi.John
Why wouldn't either work?  I'm assuming in #1 you are referring to the EX2007 
environment and I'm curious as to your experience with #2.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.  

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure 

(Hint : both of them don't work:)). 
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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Re: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread sriram3
Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.  

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure 

(Hint : both of them don't work:)). 
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread John Cook
Yes please do and tell me if you get an OOF from me as I just turned it on to 
test this.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:48 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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Re: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Miguel Gonzalez Castaños

John Cook escribió:

Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.
  

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Sam Cayze
Just to throw a name out there, I know a few people that run small
business that use a service called 'MyEmma'  http://www.myemma.com/
 
Great for creating newsletters and mailings...
 



From: Durf [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mass emailing?


Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1 worth
of bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to
have a good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP
virtual server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing
list is. 

Look up Constant Contact, and mention to Nancy Freitag that Connor
referred you.  They do an amazing job.  All they do are (verified,
non-spam) mass mailing, and are extremely professional. 


-- Durf


On Feb 7, 2008 1:29 PM, Steve Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in
the price of paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales
department has asked me to come up with a way to send an email to about
1000 of our biggest customers, explaining the increase and the price
increases that will result. The recipients are all existing customers,
but I'm concerned nonetheless with running afoul of spam lists and such.

Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

We're on Exchange 2007.

Steve

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RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
If it behaved that way in your environment, it leads me to believe I
might just have a configuration problem.

 

As far as I know, there's really no difference between my 2003
bridgehead server and the 2003 mailbox servers, except the bridgehead
has all the foreign/external smtp and fax connectors on it and no
mailboxes.  

 



From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

 

 

Can you eliminate the 2003 bridgehead and have the remaining 2003
servers route through the hub? When I did ours there was no bridgehead,
but as soon as I put up a 2007 hub the 2003 server instantly started
routing via the hub on its ownI remember that very clearly because I
was not expecting that and had to do a quick fix up on the outbound IP
address mapping so the rDNS was valid.

 

 

 

From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

 

 

I'm in the process of upgrading our environment from Exchange 2003 to
2007.

 

I have an immediate need to eliminate the email relays in the DMZ that
are being used by Exchange 2003.  I have an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport
server in the site, and a pair of Edge Transport servers in the DMZ that
I would like to use as the internet mail transport for the Exchange 2003
environment.

 

Currently I have all inbound internet email going through the Edge and
Hub servers and then being sent on the the Exchange 2003 bridgehead, and
working fine.

 

Outbound is more problematic.  There is a Send connector defined for
internet email on the Hub and Edge servers, but the Exchange 2003
bridgehead can't seem to use it.  Any attempt to send outbound internet
email from the 2003 bridgehead to the 2007 Hub Transport results in
Unable to relay..

 

I can get it to work by adding * as an accepted domain on the 2007 side,
but that makes the Hub server an open relay.  I can mitigate that by
restricting the default receive connector to only accepting a connection
from the 2003 bridgehead, but the edge synchronization propagates that
setting the Edge servers, and they become open relays.

 

I think I can get it to work by eliminating the edge subscriptions and
manually configuring send and receive connectors on the Edge servers,
but it seems like there ought to be a better way.

 

Anyone have any expertise in this kind of configuration?



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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
So, planning a trip there now?  LOL

-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all


A larger gay community in the south end of Boston?  The possibilities
are endless

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Ha!

Well, let me tell you something to give you a better perspective on
the majority of the staff and patrons at many establishments in the
sound end of Boston:  it has a very large gay community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_End,_Boston,_Massachusetts#Diversity


On Feb 7, 2008 12:24 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the
food.
 ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
 weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
 oatmeal.

 Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
 Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
 it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
 it's got to be good!  :-)



 On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
 (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
 
 
  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
 
  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
 group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes
among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under
the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
  you mean porridge?
  Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should
never
  be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
 the
  way.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  Grits?
 
  John, UK.
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits...
my
  father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
 from
  the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee
border)
  and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
 
 
 
  Andy
 
  
 
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
  verb, or an adverb.
 
  I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as
we
  say around here.
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
  don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk
to
  everybody!
 
  I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to
New
  York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept
looking
 at
  the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully,
a
  year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
  A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
 has
  actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
 
  With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.
 
  19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet
tea
  indicates the need for 

RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
A larger gay community in the south end of Boston?  The possibilities
are endless

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Ha!

Well, let me tell you something to give you a better perspective on
the majority of the staff and patrons at many establishments in the
sound end of Boston:  it has a very large gay community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_End,_Boston,_Massachusetts#Diversity


On Feb 7, 2008 12:24 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the
food.
 ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
 weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
 oatmeal.

 Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
 Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
 it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
 it's got to be good!  :-)



 On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
 (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
 
 
  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
 
  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
 group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes
among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under
the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
  you mean porridge?
  Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should
never
  be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
 the
  way.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  Grits?
 
  John, UK.
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits...
my
  father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
 from
  the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee
border)
  and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
 
 
 
  Andy
 
  
 
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
  verb, or an adverb.
 
  I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as
we
  say around here.
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
  don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk
to
  everybody!
 
  I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to
New
  York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept
looking
 at
  the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully,
a
  year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
  A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
 has
  actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
 
  With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.
 
  19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet
tea
  indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
  unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.
 
  Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say
sweet.
  If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why 

Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Don Ely
You mean diner?

On Feb 7, 2008 9:17 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
 weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
 oatmeal.

 Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
 Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
 it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
 it's got to be good!  :-)



 On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
 (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
 
 
  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
 
  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
  you mean porridge?
  Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
  be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by the
  way.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  Grits?
 
  John, UK.
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
  father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally from
  the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
  and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
 
 
 
  Andy
 
  
 
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
  verb, or an adverb.
 
  I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
  say around here.
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
  don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
  everybody!
 
  I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
  York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking at
  the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
  year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
  A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has
  actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
 
  With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.
 
  19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
  indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
  unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.
 
  Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
  If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
  want tea that WASN'T sweet?!
 
  20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little
  old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
  heart and go your own way.
 
  In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
  considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart. For
  example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or, Joe's
  collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Exchange 2003/2007 email routing problem.

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
I'm in the process of upgrading our environment from Exchange 2003 to
2007.

 

I have an immediate need to eliminate the email relays in the DMZ that
are being used by Exchange 2003.  I have an Exchange 2007 Hub Transport
server in the site, and a pair of Edge Transport servers in the DMZ that
I would like to use as the internet mail transport for the Exchange 2003
environment.

 

Currently I have all inbound internet email going through the Edge and
Hub servers and then being sent on the the Exchange 2003 bridgehead, and
working fine.

 

Outbound is more problematic.  There is a Send connector defined for
internet email on the Hub and Edge servers, but the Exchange 2003
bridgehead can't seem to use it.  Any attempt to send outbound internet
email from the 2003 bridgehead to the 2007 Hub Transport results in
Unable to relay..

 

I can get it to work by adding * as an accepted domain on the 2007 side,
but that makes the Hub server an open relay.  I can mitigate that by
restricting the default receive connector to only accepting a connection
from the 2003 bridgehead, but the edge synchronization propagates that
setting the Edge servers, and they become open relays.

 

I think I can get it to work by eliminating the edge subscriptions and
manually configuring send and receive connectors on the Edge servers,
but it seems like there ought to be a better way.

 

Anyone have any expertise in this kind of configuration?


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
It also means they probably have a sink in the bathroom.

-Original Message-
From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:25 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the food.
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
oatmeal.

Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
it's got to be good!  :-)



On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
(ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.


 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823

 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
group
 in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
 you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
 Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


 -Original Message-
 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 you mean porridge?
 Im glad you told me what Hominy is 

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
 be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
the
 way.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 Grits?

 John, UK.

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
 father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
from
 the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
 and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.



 Andy

 

 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all






 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
 verb, or an adverb.

 I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
 say around here.

 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
 don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
 everybody!

 I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
 York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking
at
 the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
 year later we left NY and headed south again!

 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.

 A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
has
 actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.

 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.

 With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.

 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.

 Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
 If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
 want tea that WASN'T sweet?!

 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little
 old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
 heart and go your own way.

 In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
 considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart.
For
 example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or,
Joe's
 collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.















 

RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the food.
;-)

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
oatmeal.

Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
it's got to be good!  :-)



On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
(ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.


 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823

 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
group
 in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
 you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
 Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


 -Original Message-
 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 you mean porridge?
 Im glad you told me what Hominy is 

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
 be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
the
 way.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 Grits?

 John, UK.

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
 father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
from
 the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
 and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.



 Andy

 

 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all






 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
 verb, or an adverb.

 I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
 say around here.

 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
 don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
 everybody!

 I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
 York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking
at
 the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
 year later we left NY and headed south again!

 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.

 A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
has
 actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.

 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.

 With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.

 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.

 Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
 If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
 want tea that WASN'T sweet?!

 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little
 old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
 heart and go your own way.

 In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
 considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart.
For
 example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or,
Joe's
 collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.















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Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
oatmeal.

Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
it's got to be good!  :-)



On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
(ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.


 John H. Matteson, Jr.
 Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
 FOB Orgun-E
 Afghanistan
 DSN - 318 431 8001
 VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
 Iridium - 717.633.3823

 A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
 in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
 you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
 Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


 -Original Message-
 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 you mean porridge?
 Im glad you told me what Hominy is 

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
 be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by the
 way.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 Grits?

 John, UK.

 

 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all




 I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
 father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.

 Joe Heaton


 

 From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally from
 the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
 and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.



 Andy

 

 From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all






 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
 verb, or an adverb.

 I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
 say around here.

 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
 don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
 everybody!

 I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
 York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking at
 the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
 year later we left NY and headed south again!

 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.

 A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has
 actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.

 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.

 With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.

 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.

 Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
 If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
 want tea that WASN'T sweet?!

 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little
 old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
 heart and go your own way.

 In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
 considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart. For
 example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or, Joe's
 collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.















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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

 

 

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Hi there Victor.

 

Let's get some details going. 

When you backed up your Exchange server did you drill down in the GUI
and choose the Information Store?  Yes

I assume the name of the server has changed as well? YES

You have a new SMTP domain; different from your prior Exchange server?
YES

What versions do you have? 2007

 

That should get us started.

 

Cheers.

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:22 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Sorry I resent the email due to a bounce back 

 

From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Ya, but with different subject lines each time...lol.

 

Joe Heaton

 

 



From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

Has anyone else received this post three times ?

 

CFee

 

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Andy Shook
I think that is the grossest thing I've ever heard of, besides Don Ely's
knowledge of the flavor of donkey balls.   

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Nikki Peterson - OETX [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:33 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Yum, definitely an acquired taste. Love it or hate it.

Milk Gravy, I think the rest of the world calls it White
Sauce. By the way, add some cocoa and you have my kids
Favorite, Chocolate Gravy!

Nikki

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all


 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Nikki Peterson - OETX
Yum, definitely an acquired taste. Love it or hate it.

Milk Gravy, I think the rest of the world calls it White
Sauce. By the way, add some cocoa and you have my kids
Favorite, Chocolate Gravy!

Nikki

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all


 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 


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Exchange 2007

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

Inter America Data Florida LLC

1987 NW 88 Court Suite 201

Doral, Fl 33172

Office # (305)443-0331 x1201

Cell # (786)282-4838

 

 

 


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RE: UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread Roger Wright
I use IMF Manager daily but usually only handle less than a couple
thousand messages.  You may want to delete anything over XX days old
first to get down to a manageable level.



Roger Wright 
Network Administrator 
Evatone, Inc. 
727.572.7076  x388 
 

Institute:  An archaic school where football is not taught. 
  
  
From: vbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:37 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: UceArchive Folder 
  
I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I
found thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I
could delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I
am not junking anything important.

  
I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to HYPERLINK http://gotdotnet.comgotdotnet.com but this site
has been closed down. The other site was still there but with the
following:

... 
I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion.
This is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to
a version that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio
2005. 

There are several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure
before going any further. And I expect this will go away using a more
state-of-the-art platform. 

--- 
I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors. 
  
Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress

  
Thanks 
  
  
  


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RE: UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread Sam Cayze
I've never had success using any of those tools if the UCE Folder grows
over a few thousand messages...
 
Here is a vbs script that I did not write to manage that folder.  Tweak
it and schedule it!
 
 
 
' folder to start search in...
path = D:\Program Files\Exchsrvr\Mailroot\vsi 7\UceArchive
 
' delete files older than x days...
killdate = date() - 6
 
arFiles = Array()
set fso = createobject(scripting.filesystemobject)
 
' Don't do the delete while you still are looping through a
' file collection returned from the File System Object (FSO).
' The collection may get mixed up.
' Create an array of the file objects to avoid this.
'
SelectFiles path, killdate, arFiles, true
 
nDeleted = 0
for n = 0 to ubound(arFiles)
  '=
  ' Files deleted via FSO methods do *NOT* go to the recycle bin!!!
  '=
  on error resume next 'in case of 'in use' files...
  arFiles(n).delete true
  if err.number  0 then
wscript.echo Unable to delete:   arFiles(n).path
  else
nDeleted = nDeleted + 1
  end if
  on error goto 0
next
 
msgbox nDeleted   of   ubound(arFiles)+1 _
eligible files were deleted
 
  '=
  ' Email Results:
  '=
 

Set Msg = CreateObject(CDO.Message)
 
With Msg
 
  .To = Your Email
   .From = From Email
   .Subject = nDeleted   UCE (SPAM) Messages Deleted
   .TextBody = nDeleted   of   ubound(arFiles)+1 _
 eligible files were deleted.  This files were older than the
'KillDate' of  _
  vbCrLf  Killdate  vbCrLf  vbCrLf  These files exist in this
folder:   vbCrLf  path
   .Send
 
   
End With
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
sub SelectFiles(sPath,vKillDate,arFilesToKill,bIncludeSubFolders)
  on error resume next
  'select files to delete and add to array...
  '
  set folder = fso.getfolder(sPath)
  set files = folder.files
 
  for each file in files
' uses error trapping around access to the
' Date property just to be safe
'
dtlastmodified = null
on error resume Next
dtlastmodified = file.datelastmodified
on error goto 0
if not isnull(dtlastmodified) Then
  if dtlastmodified  vKillDate then
count = ubound(arFilesToKill) + 1
redim preserve arFilesToKill(count)
set arFilesToKill(count) = file
  end if
end if
  next
 
  if bIncludeSubFolders then
for each fldr in folder.subfolders
  SelectFiles fldr.path,vKillDate,arFilesToKill,true
next
  end if
end sub 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 



From: vbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: UceArchive Folder


I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I
found thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I
could delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I
am not junking anything important.
 
I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to gotdotnet.com but this site has been closed down. The other
site was still there but with the following:
...
I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion.
This is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to
a version that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio
2005. 
There are several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure
before going any further. And I expect this will go away using a more
state-of-the-art platform. 
---
I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors.
 
Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress
 
Thanks
 
 

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Not that there's anything wrong with that... 

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

rofl

On Feb 6, 2008 5:53 PM, Andy Shook [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:




 And gay




 Andy Shook, IT Manager

 Decision Support LLC

 624 Matthews-Mint Hill Road

 Matthews, NC 28105

 p-704.844.1828

 f-704.847.4875

 e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 


 From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:42 PM


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all


 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all








 That was painful.



 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com




 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 5:33 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 As corny as it may sound, my uncle used to sing hominy, and he was a
tough
 guy, true grits.

 Not sure why your granny's soul resting makes your mouth water.
 interesting.
 


 From: Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 11:37 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 I haven't thought of that for years.



 My granny (rest her soul) used to make fried hominy pancakes.  The
thought
 just makes my mouth water.




 Regards,



 Michael B. Smith

 MCSE/Exchange MVP

 http://TheEssentialExchange.com




 From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 12:08 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all





 And hominy is good with butter and a little salt!


 


 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:43 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
be
 runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by the
way.




 Joe Heaton





 


 From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 Grits?



 John, UK.


 


 From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all



 I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
 father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.




 Joe Heaton


















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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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Re: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Kurt Buff
For a one-time mailing?

Use blat.exe - it's a nice tool that you can put in a 'for' loop, and
run it against a text file with your customer emails in it.

On Feb 7, 2008 10:29 AM, Steve Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the price of 
 paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales department has asked 
 me to come up with a way to send an email to about 1000 of our biggest 
 customers, explaining the increase and the price increases that will result. 
 The recipients are all existing customers, but I'm concerned nonetheless with 
 running afoul of spam lists and such.

 Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

 We're on Exchange 2007.

 Steve

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Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
ROFL - yes:  *Diner*Spell checking doesnt matter when you havent
had enough coffee.

On Feb 7, 2008 12:53 PM, Don Ely [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You mean diner?



 On Feb 7, 2008 9:17 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
  weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
  oatmeal.
 
  Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
  Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
  it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
  it's got to be good!  :-)
 
 
 
  On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
  (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
  
  
   John H. Matteson, Jr.
   Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
   FOB Orgun-E
   Afghanistan
   DSN - 318 431 8001
   VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
   Iridium - 717.633.3823
  
   A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
   in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
   you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
   Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
   you mean porridge?
   Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
  
   
  
   From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
   be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by the
   way.
  
   Joe Heaton
  
  
   
  
   From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   Grits?
  
   John, UK.
  
   
  
   From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
   I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
   father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
  
   Joe Heaton
  
  
   
 
  
   From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
  
   I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally from
   the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
   and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
  
  
  
   Andy
  
   
  
   From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
 
   To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
   Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
  
  
  
  
  
  
 
   11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
   verb, or an adverb.
  
   I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
   say around here.
 
  
   13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
   don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
   everybody!
  
   I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
   York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking at
   the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
   year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  
   15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
  
   A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it has
   actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  
   16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
  
   With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.
 
  
   19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
   indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
   unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.
  
   Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
   If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
   want tea that WASN'T sweet?!
 
  
   20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at little
   old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
   heart and go your own way.
  
   In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
   considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart. For
   example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or, Joe's
   collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.
  

Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Rob Bonfiglio
Do they also sell cigars?

On Feb 7, 2008 12:24 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the food.
 ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
 weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
 oatmeal.

 Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
 Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
 it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
 it's got to be good!  :-)



 On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
 (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
 
 
  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
  DSN - 318 431 8001
  VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
  Iridium - 717.633.3823
 
  A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national
 group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
  you mean porridge?
  Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should never
  be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
 the
  way.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  Grits?
 
  John, UK.
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits... my
  father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
 from
  the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee border)
  and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
 
 
 
  Andy
 
  
 
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
  verb, or an adverb.
 
  I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as we
  say around here.
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
  don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
  everybody!
 
  I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to New
  York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept looking
 at
  the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully, a
  year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
  A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
 has
  actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.
 
  With salt, and sometimes cheese. Never with sugar.
 
  19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
  indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
  unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.
 
  Actually, in a good southern restaurant you don't have to say sweet.
  If you order tea, it will be sweet-because why on earth would anyone
  want tea that WASN'T sweet?!
 
  20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
 little
  old ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
  heart and go your own way.
 
  In the south, you can utter all sorts of insults without being
  considered rude if you follow them up with a bless his/her heart.
 For
  example, That Jane just isn't very bright, bless her heart or,
 Joe's
  collards always taste like dirt, bless his heart.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  

RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Heaton
Leave it to the military guy to find the porn in a candy store
website... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Ooo, I'll bet you liked the selections in tne adult section better
:) 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

, that place sells cinnamon toothpicks...haven't had those in years.



Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,

 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip

 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general 
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real 
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or 
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover

 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and

 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea

 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea 
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.

 

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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Scot Parsons
He knows what donkey balls taste like?

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Don says those taste like donkey balls...

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David

And annoying stationery.


From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:23 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore


Ya, but with different subject lines each time...lol.

Joe Heaton



From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

Has anyone else received this post three times ?


CFee



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore


WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new domain 
name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of 32 bit 
exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing PST files

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage groups are 
in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the data our pointing 
the exchange server to the data that I restored

Victor Rodriguez












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Restore of exchange mailboxes

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

 

 

Victor Rodriguez


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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
I've heard of duplicate OOFs, but not the not-working part.
You should open a case with PSS.

FWIW, we are running Exch 2007 SP1 and Outlook 2007 with BES.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Tried with both outlook 2003 sp3 and outlook 2007 sp1.

Google the error and you will see a couple of folks who report it too.
(Google this. Out of office exchange 2007 sp1 blackberry)


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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 15:59:02
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

 

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.

 



From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

 

 

I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 


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RE: UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread Joe Heaton
I'm using IMFCompanion, and have opened successfully with over 10,000
messages in the archive.
 
Joe Heaton
 



From: vbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: UceArchive Folder


I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I
found thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I
could delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I
am not junking anything important.
 
I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to gotdotnet.com but this site has been closed down. The other
site was still there but with the following:
...
I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion.
This is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to
a version that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio
2005. 
There are several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure
before going any further. And I expect this will go away using a more
state-of-the-art platform. 
---
I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors.
 
Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress
 
Thanks
 
 

 


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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
Was this a greenfields installation of Exchange 2007?

 

If so, it isn't supported to make that move. For lots of reasons.

 

If they had Exchange 2000/2003 before, and upgraded, and just removed the
Exchange 2003 server, off the top of my head, I think that should work.

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

 

 

I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could
this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and
moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 


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Re: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread sriram3
This is purely a bes with 2k7 sp1 issue.  Rim doesnot support ek27 sp1 till 
sp5. 

But they were clueless :) when we opened the ticket. 

No PSS ticket at this time. 

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-Original Message-
From: Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:35:25 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Perhaps this is an issue that will be resolved in BES 4.1 SP5 which is 
certified for Exchange 2007.

What did RIM have to say about it or MS PSS?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Yes.  We have a little more than
15 Bes servers

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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:14:42 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Interesting, I'm not seeing this happen here and we're on a nearly identical 
setup (only SP3 on BES) Is your BES on a separate box like mine?

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Jason Gurtz
 We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the
 price of paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales
 department has asked me to come up with a way to send an email to
 about 1000 of our biggest customers, explaining the increase and the
 price increases that will result. The recipients are all existing
 customers, but I'm concerned nonetheless with running afoul of spam
 lists and such.
 
 Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

The technology isn't necessarily the biggest problem.  Managing the
sending rate can useful but not totally necessary though, some good
methods have been suggested.  Keep in mind that with the built in queuing
that's part of smtp it's perfectly fine to have mail back up a little bit
on its way out.  If recipients systems have limits on the connection rate
they will just throttle and eventually it'll go out.  Things like having
your reverse dns set up correctly and not on consumer spans of IP address
will help deliverability as can making an entry in the Spamhaus PBL
http://www.spamhaus.org/pbl/index.lasso

The bigger problem is how you've collected the email addresses.  If it's
all double opt-in then you're golden.  If it was collected over the years
on paper or by other means (non-verified) with some kind of
understanding, then you might run afoul of some of those people who may
complain to various block lists.  I would suggest having a serious talk
with the person who will be writing the copy and suggest to them to have a
good introductory paragraph that explains how/where the addresses were
acquired and that this is nothing more than a periodic mailing that may be
of interest.  Also state how they may remove themselves from future.
Managing the relationship and good will with the customer is essential! 

It is of utmost importance to offer and follow through on unsubscribes and
also keep track of invalid/bounced addresses so that you may cleanse the
list.

The following page has some general guidelines:
http://www.mail-abuse.com/an_listmgntgdlines.html

Along with What Counts, I can recommend Constant Contact if the company
would like to start really managing their marketing email.  These types of
managed email marketing providers come at not a small cost; however, you
may be able to build a business case to get the budget.

~JasonG

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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam…

“Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either 
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox cannot be 
used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox server.”


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don’t ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could this 
be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and moving 
the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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Re: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread sriram3
Yes.  We have a little more than
15 Bes servers

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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:14:42 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Interesting, I'm not seeing this happen here and we're on a nearly identical 
setup (only SP3 on BES) Is your BES on a separate box like mine?

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
How can I tell if it's Greenfield?  If it is use ExMerge to move them
out of e2k7 and into e2k3?

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

You cant install E2003 into a greenfield E2007 org.
If it was a 2003 org in the past, then you should be able to add a new
e2003 server.



From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3




I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.






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Re: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Ben Scott
On Feb 7, 2008 2:49 PM, Durf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1 worth of
 bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to have a
 good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP virtual
 server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing list is.

  I've had occasion twice over the past six months to send out a mass
mailing to about 360 addresses.  We've got a fixed-wireless feed we
use for SMTP and VPN.  512 Kbit/sec CIR, 1.5 Mbit/sec MIR.  I just
dumped the message body into Sendmail on our Linux Internet gateway
(rather than going through our Exchange server first).  All but about
15 addresses were delivered (or bounced) in under 15 minutes; the rest
were in queue for later retry due to unreachable servers.  That's with
no special planning/configuration, and regular SMTP and VPN traffic
still going.

  While 1000 is obviously almost three times as many recipients, I'm
still surprised to hear Exchange on a full T1 would fold under the
load.  Are you sure of that?

-- Ben

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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Troy Meyer
If you are using a Greenfield install of 2007, time to look at export-mailbox.

-troy

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could this 
be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and moving 
the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.






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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
That's what I figured. Only 30 users so no big deal. ExMerge still the
tool of choice in e2k7?

 



From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

 

 

If you are using a Greenfield install of 2007, time to look at
export-mailbox.

 

-troy

 

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

 

 

I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.

 

Cheers.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Troy Meyer
So if you can/have a 2000/2003 environment installed, it's a brainless 
procedure from EMC or EMS.  We have done it multiple times back and forth from 
2000 - 2007.

I believe the article was what you were looking to do (ie the mailbox will work 
fine when moved back to 2003, it isn't 'marked for death from 2007')

Hope that helps

troy

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
Cool. Going to give a whack in the next day or two.  Thanks muchly.

-Original Message-
From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:21 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

So if you can/have a 2000/2003 environment installed, it's a brainless
procedure from EMC or EMS.  We have done it multiple times back and
forth from 2000 - 2007.

I believe the article was what you were looking to do (ie the mailbox
will work fine when moved back to 2003, it isn't 'marked for death from
2007')

Hope that helps

troy

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
Each version of Exchange makes modifications to active directory.

Each one does it differently.

Exchange 2007 uses A/D differently than Exchange 2003 did. It doesn't use
some attributes that Exchange 2003 did.

When Exchange 2007 was installed, it looked at A/D and determined whether it
needed to update A/D, or whether it needed to start from scratch.

If it started from scratch, then Exchange 2003 won't install, because:

1) it'll see that the schema versions don't match, and
2) security is wrong.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Troy Meyer
I don't think exmerge will work for this one.

From a 32bit machine with outlook and Exchange Management Shell on it.  
Something like:  get-mailbox -server 2007server | export-mailbox 
-pstfolderlocation c:\pst

You might have to mod the initial get command, but that will pst all your boxes 
a ton quicker than exmerge will.

Definitely do a get-help export-mailbox -full to see all your switches and 
usage.

-troy


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3


That's what I figured. Only 30 users so no big deal. ExMerge still the tool of 
choice in e2k7?


From: Troy Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3


If you are using a Greenfield install of 2007, time to look at export-mailbox.

-troy

From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could this 
be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and moving 
the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.














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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Bill Songstad (WCUL)
We regularly email to around 3000 members of our organization.  Normally
we use MS Word to create a mail merge from an Excel spreadsheet of
addresses.  They all go out over our 512K pipe in about an hour or two.
We consider 40k the size limit that bogs down our internet connection.
But we target for messages under 30K.

We limit connections to 10per domain to keep *some* spam engines from
flagging the message as bulk, and we limit the number of concurrent
connections overall to 20 to keep the pipe from filling up.  

Since we use a mail merge, the emails usually aren't the same, so most
SPAM filters usually aren't triggered by *that*.

If you aren't sending more than a couple of addresses in any particular
domain, you aren't likely to trigger spam traps based on it simply being
bulk.

We used to just BCC the addresses by copying and pasting addresses from
excel, but that flagged us as spam from all the domains that had more
than a few recipients.

We track all our bounces and usually stay under 4%.  For you, that would
only be about 40 folks to check up on.  Of course, we don't get bounces
from most emails that are tagged as spam and just dropped.  But we feel
we have a pretty good penetration.

However, unless you request a response or use a service that can track
when the emails are opened, you won't really know how many actually get
slurped up by spam filters.  Based on our experiences, limiting the
connections and using a mail merge had measurable increase in delivery
rates.

Bill Songstad


-Original Message-
From: Steve Hart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:30 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Mass emailing?



We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the price
of paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales department
has asked me to come up with a way to send an email to about 1000 of our
biggest customers, explaining the increase and the price increases that
will result. The recipients are all existing customers, but I'm
concerned nonetheless with running afoul of spam lists and such.

Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

We're on Exchange 2007.

Steve

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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Stephan Barr
Makes sense. Thanks for that.  Anyway to tell, other than asking the
previous technicians whom are dangling at the end of proverbial rope.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Each version of Exchange makes modifications to active directory.

Each one does it differently.

Exchange 2007 uses A/D differently than Exchange 2003 did. It doesn't
use
some attributes that Exchange 2003 did.

When Exchange 2007 was installed, it looked at A/D and determined
whether it
needed to update A/D, or whether it needed to start from scratch.

If it started from scratch, then Exchange 2003 won't install, because:

1) it'll see that the schema versions don't match, and
2) security is wrong.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
Exchange can handle millions of messages per day. Easily.

It might easily eat up all your bandwidth though, but you can throttle that
usage to some degree.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Mass emailing?

On Feb 7, 2008 2:49 PM, Durf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1 worth
of
 bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to have a
 good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP virtual
 server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing list is.

  I've had occasion twice over the past six months to send out a mass
mailing to about 360 addresses.  We've got a fixed-wireless feed we
use for SMTP and VPN.  512 Kbit/sec CIR, 1.5 Mbit/sec MIR.  I just
dumped the message body into Sendmail on our Linux Internet gateway
(rather than going through our Exchange server first).  All but about
15 addresses were delivered (or bounced) in under 15 minutes; the rest
were in queue for later retry due to unreachable servers.  That's with
no special planning/configuration, and regular SMTP and VPN traffic
still going.

  While 1000 is obviously almost three times as many recipients, I'm
still surprised to hear Exchange on a full T1 would fold under the
load.  Are you sure of that?

-- Ben

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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Barsodi.John
Perhaps this is an issue that will be resolved in BES 4.1 SP5 which is 
certified for Exchange 2007.

What did RIM have to say about it or MS PSS?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Yes.  We have a little more than
15 Bes servers

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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:14:42 
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Interesting, I'm not seeing this happen here and we're on a nearly identical 
setup (only SP3 on BES) Is your BES on a separate box like mine?

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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Re: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
My Exchange server has sent tens of thousands of emails o my
orgnaizations members multilpe times a week for years.

I've never experienced any bandwidth issues, but I have seen queuing
problems (queue backups prevent newer messages to the same domains
from being sent), but thats expected.

On Feb 7, 2008 4:27 PM, Michael B. Smith
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Exchange can handle millions of messages per day. Easily.

 It might easily eat up all your bandwidth though, but you can throttle that
 usage to some degree.

 Regards,

 Michael B. Smith
 MCSE/Exchange MVP
 http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 -Original Message-
 From: Ben Scott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:22 PM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: Mass emailing?


 On Feb 7, 2008 2:49 PM, Durf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1 worth
 of
  bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to have a
  good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP virtual
  server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing list is.

  I've had occasion twice over the past six months to send out a mass
 mailing to about 360 addresses.  We've got a fixed-wireless feed we
 use for SMTP and VPN.  512 Kbit/sec CIR, 1.5 Mbit/sec MIR.  I just
 dumped the message body into Sendmail on our Linux Internet gateway
 (rather than going through our Exchange server first).  All but about
 15 addresses were delivered (or bounced) in under 15 minutes; the rest
 were in queue for later retry due to unreachable servers.  That's with
 no special planning/configuration, and regular SMTP and VPN traffic
 still going.

  While 1000 is obviously almost three times as many recipients, I'm
 still surprised to hear Exchange on a full T1 would fold under the
 load.  Are you sure of that?

 -- Ben

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Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Steve Hart


We're a printing company and we're facing a large increase in the price of 
paper, which is huge compenent of our costing. Our sales department has asked 
me to come up with a way to send an email to about 1000 of our biggest 
customers, explaining the increase and the price increases that will result. 
The recipients are all existing customers, but I'm concerned nonetheless with 
running afoul of spam lists and such.

Is there a commonly accepted way to do this?

We're on Exchange 2007.

Steve

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Anybody going to Exchange Connections in Orlando?

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob
It looks like I may get to go.  Never been to one of these.  Any
recommendations?


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RE: Exchange 2007

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
 

I'm confused.

 

These are flat file backups, not Exchange aware backups?

 

Regards,

 

Michael B. Smith

MCSE/Exchange MVP

http://TheEssentialExchange.com

 

From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:58 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Exchange 2007

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new domain
name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of 32 bit
exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage groups
are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the data our
pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

Inter America Data Florida LLC

1987 NW 88 Court Suite 201

Doral, Fl 33172

Office # (305)443-0331 x1201

Cell # (786)282-4838

 

Copy of eMail

 

 

 

 


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Re: Mass emailing?

2008-02-07 Thread Durf
Yes, when the following conditions are true:(which they usually are for our
average small business client who doesn't alert us first that they want to
do this)

* Untuned smtp server
* T1 or less bandwidth
* Unsanitized contact list
* 1000+ contacts

...then yes, you can very easily swamp the SMTP server and the oubound
bandwidth.  Exchange itself is usually find for internal-internal emails,
but the queues, firewall and outbound traffic are often swamped.

I've seen this about five or six times in the last 5+ years; it's usually
the first (and only) time a client tries to send a mass email out to their
entire contact list they've painstakingly build up in an Exchange public
folder (or multiple, given the limits on Exchange address lists...)

-- Durf

On Feb 7, 2008 4:21 PM, Ben Scott [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Feb 7, 2008 2:49 PM, Durf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   Unless you have a *very* sanitized mailing list and more than a T1
 worth of
  bandwidth, I would expect sending out a mass mailing like that to have a
  good change of bringing down your Internet line and/or your SMTP virtual
  server, depending on your bandwidth and how 'clean' your mailing list
 is.

  I've had occasion twice over the past six months to send out a mass
 mailing to about 360 addresses.  We've got a fixed-wireless feed we
 use for SMTP and VPN.  512 Kbit/sec CIR, 1.5 Mbit/sec MIR.  I just
 dumped the message body into Sendmail on our Linux Internet gateway
 (rather than going through our Exchange server first).  All but about
 15 addresses were delivered (or bounced) in under 15 minutes; the rest
 were in queue for later retry due to unreachable servers.  That's with
 no special planning/configuration, and regular SMTP and VPN traffic
 still going.

  While 1000 is obviously almost three times as many recipients, I'm
 still surprised to hear Exchange on a full T1 would fold under the
 load.  Are you sure of that?

 -- Ben

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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Don's a connoisseur of them.

-Original Message-
From: Scot Parsons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:36 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

He knows what donkey balls taste like?

-Original Message-
From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:27 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Don says those taste like donkey balls...

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,
 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip
 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover
 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and
 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea
 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you don't want buttermilk.


 20.) And a true Southerner knows you don't scream obscenities at
little old
 ladies who drive 30 MPH on the freeway. You just say, Bless her
heart and
 go your own way.















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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Carol Fee
Has anyone else received this post three times ?
 

CFee

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore




  

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 


 



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RE: Email Restore

2008-02-07 Thread Victor Rodriguez
  

Yes I resubmitted the email due to a bounce back message

 

From: Carol Fee [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Restore

 

 

Has anyone else received this post three times ?

 

CFee

 

 



From: Victor Rodriguez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:12
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Restore

 

 

WE have changed our exchange mail server to a new server with a new
domain name, I am trying to restore the mail boxes to a trail version of
32 bit exchange on a test box so I can export out some of the missing
PST files 

 

I did not restore back to the original location so all the storage
groups are in one folder on the C: drive how do I go about mounting the
data our pointing the exchange server to the data that I restored

 

Victor Rodriguez

 

 

 

 

 

 


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550-Verification failed for

2008-02-07 Thread Dean Lahodny
One of our other companies, for whom I didn't set up the Exchange server, don't 
have control over, but have to tell them how to fix problems, is getting the 
following NDR when they send to or reply to e-mail at one specific domain.

There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server. 
Please contact your system administrator.
server.domain.local #5.5.0 smtp;550-Verification failed for [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]

The receiving domain the e-mail is being sent to is using Exim mail server 
software.

After doing some research I am fairly certain the NDR is being caused by the 
Exchange server returning server.domain.local rather than mail.domain.com.  But 
I haven't figured out how to get Exchange to return the correct name.

How do I get the Exchange server to return the correct DNS name?


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RE: Exchange 2007 migration

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
And its happening to all your users?
Have you run Outlook/cleanrules on a few test users?
Do all the OOFs fail, or just internal, external?




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 4:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

This is purely a bes with 2k7 sp1 issue.  Rim doesnot support ek27 sp1 till sp5.

But they were clueless :) when we opened the ticket.

No PSS ticket at this time.

Sent via BlackBerry by ATT

-Original Message-
From: Barsodi.John [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 13:35:25
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Perhaps this is an issue that will be resolved in BES 4.1 SP5 which is 
certified for Exchange 2007.

What did RIM have to say about it or MS PSS?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 1:32 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Yes.  We have a little more than
15 Bes servers

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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 16:14:42
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Interesting, I'm not seeing this happen here and we're on a nearly identical 
setup (only SP3 on BES) Is your BES on a separate box like mine?

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:59 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration

Haven't seen that.
What version of Outlook?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:57 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Setup

Exchange 2007 sp1
Bes 4.1. Sp4
Internal or external OOF set via outlook client (any version) or bb or owa.

Oof works for the first 20 minutes and then stops. :)

If the mailbox is not enabled for BB, it works fine.
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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:47:36
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

Can you elaborate?



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

Just be sure to test the following if you are a large shop and plan to use 
exchange 2007 SP 1.

1. Per database journaling in a mixed environment (2003 /2007)
2. Out of office messages if you have a BES infrastructure

(Hint : both of them don't work:)).
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-Original Message-
From: John Cook [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2008 14:20:23
To:MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Exchange 2007 migration


I wasn't too bad once you take care of all of the prerequisites. You have to 
get it in your head that you will be running two separate mail systems at the 
same time while doing the migration so you actually get the benefit of being 
able to tweak the 2007 system before getting any mailboxes on it. The MS 
documentation does a pretty good job but you will need to have a rudimentary 
grasp of PowerShell to do some things. I created a dummy account on the 03 
server beforehand and used it for all of my testing and troubleshooting.

John W. Cook
System Administrator
Partnership For Strong Families
315 SE 2nd Ave
Gainesville, Fl 32601
Office (352) 393-2741 x320
Cell (352) 215-6944
Fax (352) 393-2746
MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+


-Original Message-
From: Miguel Gonzalez Castaños [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:07 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Exchange 2007 migration

John Cook escribió:
 Only the Exchange needs to be SP2, I am in the final stages of this myself.

Thanks John. Is it a risky upgrade?

Miguel


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Campbell, Rob

 I don't think so.

-Original Message-
From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

So, planning a trip there now?  LOL

-Original Message-
From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 12:02 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all


A larger gay community in the south end of Boston?  The possibilities
are endless

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:38 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Ha!

Well, let me tell you something to give you a better perspective on
the majority of the staff and patrons at many establishments in the
sound end of Boston:  it has a very large gay community.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_End,_Boston,_Massachusetts#Diversity


On Feb 7, 2008 12:24 PM, Tim Vander Kooi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 That just means they have cute waitresses. Says nothing about the
food.
 ;-)

 -Original Message-
 From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:17 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 I occasionally get grits at the dinner I go to breakfast at on the
 weekends.  I can attest that grits are nothing like porridge or
 oatmeal.

 Plug:  If you live in the Boston area, I highly recommend Mike's City
 Dinner in the south end.  If a southern boy like Bill Clinton likes
 it (and he does - his pictures and thanks are all over the walls),
 it's got to be good!  :-)



 On Feb 7, 2008 1:52 AM, Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN
 (ITT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Porridge is Oatmeal, not grits. Grits is grits.
 
 
  John H. Matteson, Jr.
  Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
  FOB Orgun-E
  Afghanistan
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 group
  in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes
among
  you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under
the
  Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:16 PM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
  you mean porridge?
  Im glad you told me what Hominy is 
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:43
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  It's ground up hominy, which you then boil to cook them.  Should
never
  be runny, as has been mentioned already.  Hominy comes from corn by
 the
  way.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Ellis, John P. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 8:40 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  Grits?
 
  John, UK.
 
  
 
  From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 06 February 2008 16:35
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
  I grew up in Northern Florida, and loved grape jelly on my grits...
my
  father ate them with butter and pepper, which is how I eat them now.
 
  Joe Heaton
 
 
  
 
  From: Andy Shook [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:31 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
  I'm going to take issue with your response to #16.  I'm originally
 from
  the mountains of North Carolina (fairly close to the Tennessee
border)
  and I grew up eating grits with butter and sugar.
 
 
 
  Andy
 
  
 
  From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 10:13 AM
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
  Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all
 
 
 
 
 
 
  11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
  verb, or an adverb.
 
  I'm fixin' to forward this to some of my friends! Or fiddenta, as
we
  say around here.
 
  13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
  don't do queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk
to
  everybody!
 
  I was so confused when, as a child, I moved from the deep south to
New
  York and heard people talking about waiting on line. I kept
looking
 at
  the floor trying to find the line they were standing on. Thankfully,
a
  year later we left NY and headed south again!
 
  15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.
 
  A pet peeve of mine. When Hollywood tries to imitate southerners, it
 has
  actors saying y'all to just one person. Drives me nuts.
 
  16.) 

Re: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread John Cook
Um. No.
Painstakingly sent to you from my Blackberry.

- Original Message -
From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Thu Feb 07 18:05:24 2008
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don’t ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could this 
be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and moving 
the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.








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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Andy David
You cant install E2003 into a greenfield E2007 org.
If it was a 2003 org in the past, then you should be able to add a new e2003 
server.



From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3




I have a client that needs to move ( don’t ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.  Could this 
be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7 server and moving 
the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



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RE: 550-Verification failed for

2008-02-07 Thread Dean E. Lahodny
Thanks for the information.  

I was able to get access to the Exchange server and I made the change,
restarted the SMTP virtual service, and when I telnet to port 25 using
the FQDN and not the IP address I get the FQDN name banners as expected
but when I send an e-mail to the other domain I still get the
'Verification failed for.


There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
server. Please contact your system administrator.
mail.domain.com #5.5.0 smtp;550-Verification failed for
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

I'll keep looking but if anyone has any other ideas I would appreciate
the help.


-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: 550-Verification failed for

You need to effect a change to the SMTP banner greeting. You can find
the setting here:

* ESM
- SMTP virtual server properties
- Delivery tab
- Advanced.. button
- Fully-qualified domain name (set this to reflect a valid public FQDN)


On Feb 7, 2008 4:30 PM, Dean Lahodny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 One of our other companies, for whom I didn't set up the Exchange
server, don't have control over, but have to tell them how to fix
problems, is getting the following NDR when they send to or reply to
e-mail at one specific domain.

 There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email
server. Please contact your system administrator.
 server.domain.local #5.5.0 smtp;550-Verification failed for 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 The receiving domain the e-mail is being sent to is using Exim mail
server software.

 After doing some research I am fairly certain the NDR is being caused
by the Exchange server returning server.domain.local rather than
mail.domain.com.  But I haven't figured out how to get Exchange to
return the correct name.

 How do I get the Exchange server to return the correct DNS name?


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Re: 550-Verification failed for

2008-02-07 Thread Micheal Espinola Jr
I need to correct myself here.  Thats not the SMTP banner, thats the
HELO handshake identifier.  The SMTP banner is what is displayed
during an incoming connection - and is modified elsewhere (metabase i
think?)

Nevertheless, its still the correct setiing to fix.

On 2/7/08, Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You need to effect a change to the SMTP banner greeting. You can find
 the setting here:

 * ESM
 - SMTP virtual server properties
 - Delivery tab
 - Advanced.. button
 - Fully-qualified domain name (set this to reflect a valid public FQDN)


 On Feb 7, 2008 4:30 PM, Dean Lahodny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  One of our other companies, for whom I didn't set up the Exchange server,
 don't have control over, but have to tell them how to fix problems, is
 getting the following NDR when they send to or reply to e-mail at one
 specific domain.
 
  There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server.
 Please contact your system administrator.
  server.domain.local #5.5.0 smtp;550-Verification failed for
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  The receiving domain the e-mail is being sent to is using Exim mail server
 software.
 
  After doing some research I am fairly certain the NDR is being caused by
 the Exchange server returning server.domain.local rather than
 mail.domain.com.  But I haven't figured out how to get Exchange to return
 the correct name.
 
  How do I get the Exchange server to return the correct DNS name?
 
 
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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Michael B. Smith
I want a car that will protect me from driving it into a concrete pier at
70 MPH when I'm not wearing a seatbelt! - Ed Crowley

'Way back when this question first came up, the official answer was no.
However, someone in-the-know said try it - if you try to do the install,
the legacy setup will fail.

I personally have never been in this situation so I don't have an
environment, real or virtual, to compare. But hey, drop Win 2003 on a
desktop and see if you can do the Exchange 2003 install.

All that being said - Exchange 2007 is a better product in 99% of
situations. What is the problem that you are actually trying to address?

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Makes sense. Thanks for that.  Anyway to tell, other than asking the
previous technicians whom are dangling at the end of proverbial rope.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Each version of Exchange makes modifications to active directory.

Each one does it differently.

Exchange 2007 uses A/D differently than Exchange 2003 did. It doesn't
use
some attributes that Exchange 2003 did.

When Exchange 2007 was installed, it looked at A/D and determined
whether it
needed to update A/D, or whether it needed to start from scratch.

If it started from scratch, then Exchange 2003 won't install, because:

1) it'll see that the schema versions don't match, and
2) security is wrong.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

2008-02-07 Thread Barsodi.John
Are the Exchange 2007 setup logs still available?


;)

-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 3:28 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Makes sense. Thanks for that.  Anyway to tell, other than asking the
previous technicians whom are dangling at the end of proverbial rope.

-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:23 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Each version of Exchange makes modifications to active directory.

Each one does it differently.

Exchange 2007 uses A/D differently than Exchange 2003 did. It doesn't
use
some attributes that Exchange 2003 did.

When Exchange 2007 was installed, it looked at A/D and determined
whether it
needed to update A/D, or whether it needed to start from scratch.

If it started from scratch, then Exchange 2003 won't install, because:

1) it'll see that the schema versions don't match, and
2) security is wrong.

Regards,

Michael B. Smith
MCSE/Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com


-Original Message-
From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:17 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Really?   'splain please.  Ah are you saying that will move the
mailboxes but it will still be an Exchange 2007 environment?   This is
going to be ugly I can tell.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3

Not quite the same thing as what you want to do :)


From: Stephan Barr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 6:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



Found it. This is from MsExchangeTeam...

Both Exchange 2003 and Exchange 2007 mailboxes can be moved (in either
direction) with the Exchange 2007 tools. Exchange 2003 move mailbox
cannot be used to move mailboxes to or from Exchange 2007 mailbox
server.


From: Stephan Barr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 5:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Moving from E2k7 to E2k3



I have a client that needs to move ( don't ask) from E2k7 to E2k3.
Could this be as simple as installing E2k3 in the same site as the E2k7
server and moving the mailboxes?   Make my day please.



Cheers.










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RE: UceArchive Folder

2008-02-07 Thread Steve Szabo
I've used IMF Companion in several situations for some time now, and have
not experienced any problems with it. I found one server were someone had
turned on IMF, and then ignored it. IMF opened and found 37,000 something
messages in UCEArchive. Had no problem other than the boring task of plowing
through all those messages. I notice on the site that the author states that
there have been some reports of buffer overflows, but there is no mention of
it other than that.

 

I do have a copy of IMF Archive, if you would like. It is a small file and I
could send it to you as an attachment. I did not like it so much, because it
does not allow for group deletes, nor does it handily preview test in
messages as does IMF Companion.

 

\\Steve// 

 

From: vbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: UceArchive Folder

 

I turned on IMF a short while ago and have not thought about it util I found
thousands of messages filling up the UceArchive Folder. Though I could
delete them I would like to review them just to make sure that I am not
junking anything important.

 

I Googled and found an article on the MSExchange.Org site describing two
utilities to manage it. IMF Archive and IMF Companion. The first was a
redirect to gotdotnet.com but this site has been closed down. The other site
was still there but with the following:

...

I've stopped, temporary, the support and enhancement of IMFcompanion. This
is to give me time to update the current VB6 developed edition, to a version
that uses the .NET Framework version 2, using VisualStudio 2005. 

There are several reports of overflow errors which I want to cure before
going any further. And I expect this will go away using a more
state-of-the-art platform. 

---

I downloaded it anyway to give it a try and when I opened it immediately
recieved overflow errors.

 

Any one have any recommedations on some tool to manage the UceArchive
folder? I do not want to have to open thousands of emails with
OutlookExpress

 

Thanks

 

 

 


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RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

2008-02-07 Thread Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT)
He's military only by association. The CTR in the title means he's a
civilian contractor. 


John H. Matteson, Jr.
Systems Administrator/ITT Systems
FOB Orgun-E
Afghanistan
DSN - 318 431 8001
VoSIP - (308) 431 - 
Iridium - 717.633.3823

A man who thinks of himself as belonging to a particular national group
in America has not yet become an American. And the man who goes among
you to trade upon your nationality is no worthy son to live under the
Stars and Stripes.  Woodrow Wilson


-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 10:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Leave it to the military guy to find the porn in a candy store
website... 


Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Kent, Larry CTR USA IMCOM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 9:03 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

Ooo, I'll bet you liked the selections in tne adult section better
:) 

-Original Message-
From: Joe Heaton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 11:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

, that place sells cinnamon toothpicks...haven't had those in years.



Joe Heaton

-Original Message-
From: Maglinger, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

 http://candy-crate.stores.yahoo.net/oldfaslicorh.html

Granted... it's an aquired taste.

-Original Message-
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 9:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all

I dunno what your talking about, but horehound made me interested.

On Feb 6, 2008 10:09 AM, Maglinger, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Not just red-eye gravy, but what about milk gravy?   MM Mmmm!
 And only a TRUE southerner would know about pokeweed, horehound candy,

 sorghum, and breeches...

 


 From: Tom Strader [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2008 7:20 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: OT: YEE HAW: I'm Southern Y'all







  Southernisms:




 1.) Only a true Southerner knows the difference between a hissie fit
and a
 conniption, and that you don't HAVE them, -- you PITCH them.


 2.) Only a true Southerner knows how many fish, collard greens, turnip

 greens, peas, beans, etc. make up a mess.


 3.) Only a true Southerner can show or point out to you the general 
 direction of yonder.


 4.) Only a true Southerner knows exactly how long directly is - as
in:
 Going to town, be back directly.


 5.) All true Southerners, even babies, know that Gimme some sugar is
not a
 request for the white, granular sweet substance that sits in a pretty
little
 bowl on the middle of the table.


 6.) All true Southerners know exactly when by and by is. They might
not
 use the term, but they know the concept well.


 7.) Only a true Southerner knows instinctively that the best gesture
of
 solace for a neighbor who's got trouble is a plate of hot fried
chicken and
 a big bowl of cold potato salad. (If the neighbor's trouble is a real 
 crisis, they also know to add a large banana puddin'!)


 8.) Only true Southerners grow up knowing the difference between
right
 near and a right far piece. They also know that just down the
road can
 be 1 mile or 20.


 9.) Only a true Southerner both knows and understands the difference
between
 a redneck, a good ol' boy, and po' white trash.


 10.) No true Southerner would ever assume that the car with the
flashing
 turn signal is actually going to make a turn.


 11.) A true Southerner knows that fixin' can be used as a noun, a
verb, or
 an adverb.


 12.) Only a true Southerner knows that the term booger can be a
resident
 of the nose, a descriptive, as in that ol' booger, a first name or 
 something that jumps out at you in the dark and scares you senseless.


 13.) Only true Southerners make friends while standing in lines. We
don't do
 queues, we do lines, and when we're in line, we talk to
everybody!

 14.) Put 100 true Southerners in a room and half of them will discover

 they're related, even if only by marriage.


 15.) True Southerners never refer to one person as y'all.


 16.) True Southerners know grits come from corn and how to eat them.


 17.) Every true Southerner knows tomatoes with eggs, bacon, grits, and

 coffee are perfectly wonderful; that redeye gravy is also a breakfast
food;
 and that fried green tomatoes are not a breakfast food.


 18.) When you hear someone say, Well, I caught myself lookin' .. ,
you
 know you are in the presence of a genuine Southerner!


 19.) Only true Southerners say sweet tea and sweet milk. Sweet tea

 indicates the need for sugar and lots of it - we do not like our tea 
 unsweetened. Sweet milk means you 

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