RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Don't remember how it happened but for a bit our EmailAddressPolicy was set to where a new mailbox received and address for every domain- I know for a fact it'll do 173 SMTP addresses with no problem. Fortunately we caught and fixed it after 2 mailboxes:) According to this thread, at least 512. http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/exchangesvradmin/thread/2c167213-731d-439f-855e-2dcb1ffd1d31/ -Original Message- From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 6:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
I've personally had up to 16 on mine in the past without any issues. Regards Peter Johnson I.T Architect United Kingdom:+44 1285 658542 South Africa: +27 11 252 1100 Swaziland: +268 442 7000 Fax:+27 11 974 7130 Mobile: +2783 306 0019 peter.john...@peterstow.com www.peterstow.com This email message (including attachments) contains information which may be confidential and/or legally privileged. Unless you are the intended recipient, you may not use, copy or disclose to anyone the message or any information contained in the message or from any attachments that were sent with this email, and If you have received this email message in error, please advise the sender by email, and delete the message. Unauthorised disclosure and/or use of information contained in this email may result in civil and criminal liability. Everything in this e-mail and attachments relating to the official business of Peterstow Aquapower is proprietary to the company. Caution should be observed in placing any reliance upon any information contained in this e-mail, which is not intended to be a representation or inducement to make any decision in relation to Peterstow Aquapower. Any decision taken based on the information provided in this e-mail, should only be made after consultation with appropriate legal, regulatory, tax, technical, business, investment, financial, and accounting advisors. Neither the sender of the e-mail, nor Peterstow Aquapower shall be liable to any party for any direct, indirect or consequential damages, including, without limitation, loss of profit, interruption of business or loss of information, data or software or otherwise. The e-mail address of the sender may not be used, copied, sold, disclosed or incorporated into any database or mailing list for spamming and/or other marketing purposes without the prior consent of Peterstow Aquapower. No warranties are created or implied that an employee of Peterstow Aquapower and/or a contractor of Peterstow Aquapower is authorised to create and send this e-mail. -Original Message- From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: 29 November 2011 01:23 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
This is all well and good, but consider getting rid of the user account and setting up a mail-enabled distribution group with the same address instead. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 06:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew LMathew@path- solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Which saves a mailbox and disk space. Genius. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. This is all well and good, but consider getting rid of the user account and setting up a mail-enabled distribution group with the same address instead. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 06:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew LMathew@path- solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Well, you're half-right - it saves the mailbox. Of course, it does save the disk space too, if the DL is empty... On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 05:57, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: Which saves a mailbox and disk space. Genius. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 8:22 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. This is all well and good, but consider getting rid of the user account and setting up a mail-enabled distribution group with the same address instead. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 06:23 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hello, Sorry for the long silence. I guess proxy address is what I would do. But, what is the maximum number of proxy (alternate SMTP) address that can be assigned to a mailbox? Liby -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 6:52 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew LMathew@path- solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Perhaps a mailbox auto-reply rule, or an out of office if that's impersonal enough? I wonder if a transport rule could be used to send back a template - but I haven't investigated them enough, and I'm not sure what version of Exchange you're on anyway :) Richard From: bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Liby Philip Mathew Sent: 23 November 2011 10:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating xyz can't be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
I am sorry; I am on multi-site AD and multi-site Exchange 2010 in 2 different countries. In our policy, when a staff leaves, his mail is forwarded to his Manager for 45 days and hence it will be delivered to the manager and no question of NDR. But after 45 days, the mailbox will be removed after archiving. Now what happens? If a mail comes to the removed mailbox, can it be NDR'ed to the sender asking the sender to contact so and so mail id? Appreciate your help. Regards Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant ICT Professional Services Path Solutions Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703 Fax: +965 24824500 www.path-solutions.comhttp://www.path-solutions.com/ From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Perhaps a mailbox auto-reply rule, or an out of office if that's impersonal enough? I wonder if a transport rule could be used to send back a template - but I haven't investigated them enough, and I'm not sure what version of Exchange you're on anyway :) Richard From: bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com]mailto:[mailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Liby Philip Mathew Sent: 23 November 2011 10:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating xyz can't be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
I can't think of anything built-in that's going to provide you the flexibility that you want. You could throw something together with transport rules, but that would quickly become quite unwieldy and slow. You really need to write a transport agent that has knowledge of ex-employees and their managers. Regards, Michael B. Smith Consultant and Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating xyz can't be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
This is the kind of thing that we tend to throw Exclaimer's AutoResponder at ... there's probably other options, but that's what I've used in the past for similar customer requirements. From: Liby Philip Mathew [mailto:lmat...@path-solutions.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating xyz can't be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
+1 this is what we do generally. In this vein we also implement role addresses (think sa...@example.com) and assign various users to receive mail there; this is the best common practice to get around the they're gone type issues. In general, having an auto-responder of any kind (including OOO notifications sent to the Internet) is asking for trouble down the road at best. Anyone doing it should think carefully about the failure modes involved, considering joe-jobs and other nonsense that goes on. The best auto-responders will only have a small subset of the problems; the worst ones can result in blacklisting when they unintentionally spew forth. IMO, the perceived need for an auto-responder usually means the company policies need adjustment. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew LMathew@path- solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
+1 more. Part of the procedure for an ex employees assets is to have that department tell us where to assign the SMTP address. In addition to avoiding the bad things that have been mentioned, an outside email will get a proper response. If message is spam it gets ignored, if message is real a real person answers without the sender having to do anything else. Also, it cleans up after itself- Down the road, whoever has the extra address decides when its no longer needed and asks for removal:) Blackberry - Original Message - From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 11:23 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. +1 this is what we do generally. In this vein we also implement role addresses (think sa...@example.com) and assign various users to receive mail there; this is the best common practice to get around the they're gone type issues. In general, having an auto-responder of any kind (including OOO notifications sent to the Internet) is asking for trouble down the road at best. Anyone doing it should think carefully about the failure modes involved, considering joe-jobs and other nonsense that goes on. The best auto-responders will only have a small subset of the problems; the worst ones can result in blacklisting when they unintentionally spew forth. IMO, the perceived need for an auto-responder usually means the company policies need adjustment. ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 10:52 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Why not just remove the SMTP address from the mailbox, and assign it to the manager's mailbox? On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 02:53, Liby Philip Mathew LMathew@path- solutions.com wrote: Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
Will an Out-of-Office still fire if you allow delivery to the mailbox as well as the forwarding? I've never tried that scenario, so I personally do not know. -- Espi On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: I am sorry; I am on multi-site AD and multi-site Exchange 2010 in 2 different countries. In our policy, when a staff leaves, his mail is forwarded to his Manager for 45 days and hence it will be delivered to the manager and no question of NDR. But after 45 days, the mailbox will be removed after archiving. Now what happens? If a mail comes to the removed mailbox, can it be NDR’ed to the sender asking the sender to contact so and so mail id? Appreciate your help. Regards Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant ICT Professional Services Path Solutions Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703 Fax: +965 24824500 www.path-solutions.com ** ** *From:* Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] *Sent:* Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:40 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. ** ** Perhaps a mailbox auto-reply rule, or an out of office if that’s impersonal enough? ** ** I wonder if a transport rule could be used to send back a template – but I haven’t investigated them enough, and I’m not sure what version of Exchange you’re on anyway J ** ** Richard ** ** *From:* bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] *On Behalf Of *Liby Philip Mathew *Sent:* 23 November 2011 10:54 *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. ** ** Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating “ xyz can’t be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient * manager* e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew ** ** -- Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers.
We looked at this a few months ago on Exchange 2007, and were referred to setting up a transport rule to fire off a custom NDR . it seemed pretty good, this was a blanket NDR for all ex-employees to contact a general mailbox . I never did get it to work properly. The problem with the OOO was once per day or per email address IIRC . the legal firm was concerned that every message had to be responded to for legal purposes because a lot of mail was auto generated from banks, judges, and foreclosure proceedings. From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 5:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Will an Out-of-Office still fire if you allow delivery to the mailbox as well as the forwarding? I've never tried that scenario, so I personally do not know. -- Espi On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 4:15 AM, Liby Philip Mathew lmat...@path-solutions.com wrote: I am sorry; I am on multi-site AD and multi-site Exchange 2010 in 2 different countries. In our policy, when a staff leaves, his mail is forwarded to his Manager for 45 days and hence it will be delivered to the manager and no question of NDR. But after 45 days, the mailbox will be removed after archiving. Now what happens? If a mail comes to the removed mailbox, can it be NDR'ed to the sender asking the sender to contact so and so mail id? Appreciate your help. Regards Liby Philip Mathew | ICT Consultant ICT Professional Services Path Solutions Tel: +965 24824600 Ext. 703 tel:%2B965%2024824600%20Ext.%20703 Fax: +965 24824500 tel:%2B965%2024824500 http://www.path-solutions.com/ www.path-solutions.com From: Sobey, Richard A [mailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk] Sent: Wednesday, November 23, 2011 2:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Perhaps a mailbox auto-reply rule, or an out of office if that's impersonal enough? I wonder if a transport rule could be used to send back a template - but I haven't investigated them enough, and I'm not sure what version of Exchange you're on anyway J Richard From: bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-9460430-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of Liby Philip Mathew Sent: 23 November 2011 10:54 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR for resigned users to contact their managers. Hi, I need a customization on mail delivery so that, when an employee leaves, instead of removing their e-mail account and a sender gets an error message, my server should send a message back to the sender stating xyz can't be reached, please forward all your enquiries to Recipient manager e-mail for follow up or something like that. Is this possible? Someone using it? Regards Liby Philip Mathew _ Disclaimer [The information contained in this e-mail message and any attached files are confidential information and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. This transmission may contain information that is privileged, confidential or exempt from disclosure under applicable law. If you have received this e-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete all copies. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution, or use of the information contained herein is STRICTLY PROHIBITED. Path Solutions accepts no responsibility for any errors, omissions, computer viruses and other defects.] --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR tracking?
Set the Protocol logging level on the receive connector to Verbose, and check your smtp protocol logs for the message rejection. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR tracking? Ok, I'm having an issue with an externally originating message bouncing and I'm apparently having a brain fart. Hopefully someone can help me clear the air. Use from Gmail is sending a message to one of our recipients; total attachment size is about 9.8 MB. Our SMTP gateway (Brightmail) allows attachments of up to 10240 KB, and is accepting the message from Gmail. However, when it goes to hand it off to our Exchange 2010 SP1 HT server, it gets a 5.3.4 Too large. I checked the receive connector as well as the Org level settings for Transport, and it is set to allow messages of up to 10240 KB. I found a KB article for Brightmail gateway saying that due to format conversion, etc, the message passed through to the downstream server can be up to 30% larger. So, I updated the receive connector and the Org level settings to 13312 KB (10240 * 1.3). However, the message is still bouncing. What's even more frustrating is that the Message Tracking and Tracking Log Explorer don't have any record of the message. On both Hub Transports I increased the Diagnostic Logging for MSExchangeTransport\DSN and MSExchangeTransport\SmtpReceive to High but nothing in the logs. What log(s) do I need to increase to find out how big the message is when the HT tries to accept it so I can see how large it needs to accept? Help me Obi-Wan... DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR tracking?
Doh! Here's what it ended up being; the overhead the Brightmail gateway was more than the 30% the said to add; it was closer to 38%. That's what I get for trusting Symantec documentation. ;) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR tracking? Set the Protocol logging level on the receive connector to Verbose, and check your smtp protocol logs for the message rejection. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]mailto:[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR tracking? Ok, I'm having an issue with an externally originating message bouncing and I'm apparently having a brain fart. Hopefully someone can help me clear the air. Use from Gmail is sending a message to one of our recipients; total attachment size is about 9.8 MB. Our SMTP gateway (Brightmail) allows attachments of up to 10240 KB, and is accepting the message from Gmail. However, when it goes to hand it off to our Exchange 2010 SP1 HT server, it gets a 5.3.4 Too large. I checked the receive connector as well as the Org level settings for Transport, and it is set to allow messages of up to 10240 KB. I found a KB article for Brightmail gateway saying that due to format conversion, etc, the message passed through to the downstream server can be up to 30% larger. So, I updated the receive connector and the Org level settings to 13312 KB (10240 * 1.3). However, the message is still bouncing. What's even more frustrating is that the Message Tracking and Tracking Log Explorer don't have any record of the message. On both Hub Transports I increased the Diagnostic Logging for MSExchangeTransport\DSN and MSExchangeTransport\SmtpReceive to High but nothing in the logs. What log(s) do I need to increase to find out how big the message is when the HT tries to accept it so I can see how large it needs to accept? Help me Obi-Wan... DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/ --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.commailto:listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR tracking?
Old MS documentation that I've never been able to re-find said that the same thing- you just never know I mean, based on what's actually in the file two of the same type files that are apparently the same size can be wildly different when it comes to conversion overhead. So much fun explaining that to users:) From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 2:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR tracking? Doh! Here's what it ended up being; the overhead the Brightmail gateway was more than the 30% the said to add; it was closer to 38%. That's what I get for trusting Symantec documentation. ;) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR tracking? Set the Protocol logging level on the receive connector to Verbose, and check your smtp protocol logs for the message rejection. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu]mailto:[mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR tracking? Ok, I'm having an issue with an externally originating message bouncing and I'm apparently having a brain fart. Hopefully someone can help me clear the air. Use from Gmail is sending a message to one of our recipients; total attachment size is about 9.8 MB. Our SMTP gateway (Brightmail) allows attachments of up to 10240 KB, and is accepting the message from Gmail. However, when it goes to hand it off to our Exchange 2010 SP1 HT server, it gets a 5.3.4 Too large. I checked the receive connector as well as the Org level settings for Transport, and it is set to allow messages of up to 10240 KB. I found a KB article for Brightmail gateway saying that due to format conversion, etc, the message passed through to the downstream server can be up to 30% larger. So, I updated the receive connector and the Org level settings to 13312 KB (10240 * 1.3). However, the message is still bouncing. What's even more frustrating is that the Message Tracking and Tracking Log Explorer don't have any record of the message. On both Hub Transports I increased the Diagnostic Logging for MSExchangeTransport\DSN and MSExchangeTransport\SmtpReceive to High but nothing in the logs. What log(s) do I need to increase to find out how big the message is when the HT tries to accept it so I can see how large it needs to accept? Help me Obi-Wan... DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 www.harrison.eduhttp://www.harrison.edu/ --- --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR tracking?
Encoding the email for transmission can really balloon its size. In particular, the less text-like the attatchment (jpg, zip, whatever) the more likely it is to cause this problem. UUEncoding (deprecated, and not used much any more) and MIME/base64 encoding are the culprits, although HTML-formatted messages can cause some growth in the text portion of an email, since frequently the text of the message is duplicated in separate MIME sections, one with HTML formatting tags, and one without. See, for instance, this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base64 Kurt On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 11:32, Damien Solodow damien.solo...@harrison.edu wrote: Doh! Here’s what it ended up being; the overhead the Brightmail gateway was more than the 30% the said to add; it was closer to 38%. That’s what I get for trusting Symantec documentation. ;) DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 1:46 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR tracking? Set the Protocol logging level on the receive connector to “Verbose”, and check your smtp protocol logs for the message rejection. From: Damien Solodow [mailto:damien.solo...@harrison.edu] Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:25 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR tracking? Ok, I’m having an issue with an externally originating message bouncing and I’m apparently having a brain fart. Hopefully someone can help me clear the air. Use from Gmail is sending a message to one of our recipients; total attachment size is about 9.8 MB. Our SMTP gateway (Brightmail) allows attachments of up to 10240 KB, and is accepting the message from Gmail. However, when it goes to hand it off to our Exchange 2010 SP1 HT server, it gets a 5.3.4 Too large. I checked the receive connector as well as the Org level settings for Transport, and it is set to allow messages of up to 10240 KB. I found a KB article for Brightmail gateway saying that due to format conversion, etc, the message passed through to the downstream server can be up to 30% larger. So, I updated the receive connector and the Org level settings to 13312 KB (10240 * 1.3). However, the message is still bouncing. What’s even more frustrating is that the Message Tracking and Tracking Log Explorer don’t have any record of the message. On both Hub Transports I increased the Diagnostic Logging for MSExchangeTransport\DSN and MSExchangeTransport\SmtpReceive to High but nothing in the logs. What log(s) do I need to increase to find out how big the message is when the HT tries to accept it so I can see how large it needs to accept? Help me Obi-Wan… DAMIEN SOLODOW Systems Engineer 317.447.6033 (office) 317.447.6014 (fax) HARRISON COLLEGE 500 North Meridian St Suite 500 Indianapolis, IN 46204-1213 www.harrison.edu --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR quandry
google BATV ~JasonG -Original Message- From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:57 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR quandry Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt- software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR quandry
Would there be anything in the email header which may make the NDR's unique? You might be able to generate a rule based on the that unique info. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: July-04-11 11:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR quandry Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
We had a user that this was happeing to. We had the user change her password. She had responded to a spam email and sent them her username and password. - Original Message - From: Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 12:08:33 PM Subject: RE: NDR quandry Would there be anything in the email header which may make the NDR’s unique? You might be able to generate a rule based on the that unique info. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: July-04-11 11:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR quandry Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
We had a user that this was happeing to. We had the user change her password. She had responded to a spam email and sent them her username and password. - Original Message - From: Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Monday, July 4, 2011 12:08:33 PM Subject: RE: NDR quandry Would there be anything in the email header which may make the NDR’s unique? You might be able to generate a rule based on the that unique info. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: July-04-11 11:57 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR quandry Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job There are some other articles, including this one: http://taint.org/2007/01/10/141434a.html that might give you some ideas. But, basically, you're stuck, because what's happening is pretty much outside your control. For more research material, google for joe job and backscatter. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 08:56, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
Thanks for the responses. Seems I'm going to have to set some sort of a filter then. From the reading (thanks for the links) it seems that it's mostly caused by mail systems that are not correctly setup. Fun fun. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job There are some other articles, including this one: http://taint.org/2007/01/10/141434a.html that might give you some ideas. But, basically, you're stuck, because what's happening is pretty much outside your control. For more research material, google for joe job and backscatter. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 08:56, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
I had the user do this just in case. Apparently this has been happening to him for a year, but of course didn't bother saying anything (I'm pretty sure the password thing wouldn't apply because he is forced to change it every 3 months...and no, he can't use the same one). Cheers! On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 1:20 PM, bzalew...@comcast.net wrote: We had a user that this was happeing to. We had the user change her password. She had responded to a spam email and sent them her username and password. -- *From: *Scott Schneider sschnei...@inscapesolutions.com *To: *MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent: *Monday, July 4, 2011 12:08:33 PM *Subject: *RE: NDR quandry Would there be anything in the email header which may make the NDR’s unique? You might be able to generate a rule based on the that unique info. *From:* Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] *Sent:* July-04-11 11:57 AM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* NDR quandry Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR quandry
That's what happens when the powers that be have no technical hands on skill, they're the ones who hire in the consultants, they don't allow enough time for testing, and the consultant is half empty. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 4:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR quandry Thanks for the responses. Seems I'm going to have to set some sort of a filter then. From the reading (thanks for the links) it seems that it's mostly caused by mail systems that are not correctly setup. Fun fun. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job There are some other articles, including this one: http://taint.org/2007/01/10/141434a.html that might give you some ideas. But, basically, you're stuck, because what's happening is pretty much outside your control. For more research material, google for joe job and backscatter. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 08:56, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
RE: NDR quandry
Not to jack your thread, but we just had the same thing happen to us. We were getting crushed with bum NDR messages coming from yahoo.com.tw. They have stopped now, but we can no longer send email to legit Yahoo accounts. Trying to work with Yahoo to get it fixed, but its like pulling teeth. L From: Orland, Kathleen [mailto:korl...@rogers.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 5:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR quandry That's what happens when the powers that be have no technical hands on skill, they're the ones who hire in the consultants, they don't allow enough time for testing, and the consultant is half empty. From: Cameron [mailto:cameron.orl...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 4:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR quandry Thanks for the responses. Seems I'm going to have to set some sort of a filter then. From the reading (thanks for the links) it seems that it's mostly caused by mail systems that are not correctly setup. Fun fun. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job There are some other articles, including this one: http://taint.org/2007/01/10/141434a.html that might give you some ideas. But, basically, you're stuck, because what's happening is pretty much outside your control. For more research material, google for joe job and backscatter. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 08:56, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR quandry
It happened to my place of work twice in two years, about 5 years ago. It's annoying at the least, and if the spammer is truly dedicated and has lots of resources it can be overwhelming for a small environment - they can have an enormous run of spam from bots that spoof your domain as the sender. The misconfigured systems are the ones that accept email for non-existent accounts, then figure out that the recipient doesn't exist, then try to send an NDR. What should happen instead is that the recipients should be known to the receiving system, and anything addressed to non-existent recipients should immediately generate a 5xx response, and a termination of the conversation. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 13:54, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for the responses. Seems I'm going to have to set some sort of a filter then. From the reading (thanks for the links) it seems that it's mostly caused by mail systems that are not correctly setup. Fun fun. On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 2:06 PM, Kurt Buff kurt.b...@gmail.com wrote: See this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_job There are some other articles, including this one: http://taint.org/2007/01/10/141434a.html that might give you some ideas. But, basically, you're stuck, because what's happening is pretty much outside your control. For more research material, google for joe job and backscatter. Kurt On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 08:56, Cameron cameron.orl...@gmail.com wrote: Happy 4th to the Americans! I have a user that is getting bombed by NDR's that are not originating from him. It seems that he's the lucky recipient of some spammer using his account as a sent from address. Is there any way to stop this or is he stuck with it? Exchange 2010, Outlook 2007 Thanks as always! Cameron --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist --- To manage subscriptions click here: http://lyris.sunbelt-software.com/read/my_forums/ or send an email to listmana...@lyris.sunbeltsoftware.com with the body: unsubscribe exchangelist
Re: NDR with original email attached
On Fri, Jul 16, 2010 at 11:58 AM, Travis Robinson travis.robin...@octanner.com wrote: I have a user that used to receive NDRs with the original email attached. I believe that bounce/NDR/DSN/whatever is being generated and sent by the other end. The other end prolly changed their config. Nothing on your end you can do about it. -- Ben
RE: NDR issue
Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.commailto:ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
Re: NDR issue
It seems to me the user POP'ed down the NDR at some point. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.comwrote: And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
That's kinda where my thinking was heading. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue 'Send as' priv's on another mailbox and the NDR is in that mailbox? From: Tom Kern [mailto:tpk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR issue It seems to me the user POP'ed down the NDR at some point. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
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Our db sends out the email (secondary email address) to a client. Any email that comes into that secondary email address goes into the user's mailbox. At this point they have never sent out any email from that secondary email address within outlook. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
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Any email that comes to that secondary email address goes right into the user's mailbox. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue 'Send as' priv's on another mailbox and the NDR is in that mailbox? From: Tom Kern [mailto:tpk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR issue It seems to me the user POP'ed down the NDR at some point. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com http://www.aurico.com/ From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com http://www.aurico.com/ From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com http://www.aurico.com/
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Where would I look to find this info? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:38 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue That's kinda where my thinking was heading. From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:29 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue 'Send as' priv's on another mailbox and the NDR is in that mailbox? From: Tom Kern [mailto:tpk...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR issue It seems to me the user POP'ed down the NDR at some point. On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Michael B. Smith mich...@smithcons.com wrote: And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
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our db? Is that a local application? What mechanism does it use to send the email? -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db sends out the email (secondary email address) to a client. Any email that comes into that secondary email address goes into the user's mailbox. At this point they have never sent out any email from that secondary email address within outlook. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
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Our db = local database that we wrote. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue our db? Is that a local application? What mechanism does it use to send the email? -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db sends out the email (secondary email address) to a client. Any email that comes into that secondary email address goes into the user's mailbox. At this point they have never sent out any email from that secondary email address within outlook. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
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I believe NDRs are sent to the return-path not the from: or reply to: - might check to see what that is set to. Also, they normally have a null return-path so if the original is non-deliverable, there won't be another NDR generated. -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db = local database that we wrote. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue our db? Is that a local application? What mechanism does it use to send the email? -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db sends out the email (secondary email address) to a client. Any email that comes into that secondary email address goes into the user's mailbox. At this point they have never sent out any email from that secondary email address within outlook. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
RE: NDR issue
Which is why I asked what mechanism does it use to send the email? :-) -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 3:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue I believe NDRs are sent to the return-path not the from: or reply to: - might check to see what that is set to. Also, they normally have a null return-path so if the original is non-deliverable, there won't be another NDR generated. -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db = local database that we wrote. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:47 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue our db? Is that a local application? What mechanism does it use to send the email? -Original Message- From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Our db sends out the email (secondary email address) to a client. Any email that comes into that secondary email address goes into the user's mailbox. At this point they have never sent out any email from that secondary email address within outlook. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue And how is the user configured to be able to send an email out under an alternate email address? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:13 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue So I added myself to receive the NDRs being sent out from the server and when we re-triggered the original message to be sent out, I received the NDR and the user did not. The email address that the original email is being sent out from is a secondary email address under the user's main email address. Checked the user's Rules and Alerts and they don't have anything setup to move/delete the NDR. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Chinnery, Paul [mailto:pa...@mmcwm.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Even with a user using shift-delete, you can restore an email if you have the dumpster always on reg entry. From: Jimmy Tran [mailto:jt...@teachtci.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 2:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This has happened to me and I was never able to resolve. I hope someone has an answer. From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:15 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue This user doesn't know how to use the shift + delete feature. Will check the rules and see. _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 12:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR issue Check their rules in their Outlook. Check deleted item recovery also, but I am betting rules. Does the user know how to shift delete a message? From: Cameron Cooper [mailto:ccoo...@aurico.com] Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR issue Tracked a message in Exchange 2003 Message Tracker and it shows that a NDR was sent to a mailbox on our server. However the user's mailbox does not show the NDR, not in the Junk Mail Folder or caught in spam filter. Is there a way to track where the NDR went and what the NDR stated? _ Cameron Cooper System Administrator | CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021 | Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com | www.aurico.com
Re: NDR SPAM
100% ? No - that would be impossible. Using SPF records will help deter the NDR spam from being generated in the first place. After that, your only real hope if to creatively filter/block incoming NDR. How well you can do this solely depends on what the capabilities are or your MTA and/or spam filter. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 8:45 AM, Theochares, George [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
Sue them! Sorry, couldn't resist :) Nothing will really work. Things you can do to help a bit. Put up an SPF record, hopefully more people will start using them. That would stop the servers that are sending you the NDR's from accepting the original message in the first placebut I would argue that anyone sending NDR Spam (backscatter) probably isn't bright enough to use SPF in the first place. Aggressive blacklist usage and block at the IP address. More and more RBL's are listing people that send the NDR spam (backscatter). This works very well for us. Contact the postmaster that send it to you and give them a hard time about it. If we all did that it would clear up pretty quick.. Sorry, that is about it. No real solution to this one. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
I've got an Ironport C350 that claims it can filter out NDR's that didn't result from emails that originated from your site. I haven't tried enabling it, and it may not be practical in the configuration I'm using the box in but it might be worth investigating. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: NDR SPAM
Something to note, is that you can choose to report backscatter NDR senders to their ISP and to DNS blacklists that track these types of offenses. NDRs should only be communicated via the SMTP session in the form of an SMTP status code. They should not be sent post-reception as emails. Sender authentication (SPF, etc) use and scrutiny will surely increase over the next few years, but its going to be slow climb. Filtering for specific verbiage of certain NDRs is relatively easy to do - particularly if you have a filter that supports true regular expression syntax. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue them! Sorry, couldn't resist J Nothing will really work. Things you can do to help a bit. Put up an SPF record, hopefully more people will start using them. That would stop the servers that are sending you the NDR's from accepting the original message in the first place….but I would argue that anyone sending NDR Spam (backscatter) probably isn't bright enough to use SPF in the first place. Aggressive blacklist usage and block at the IP address. More and more RBL's are listing people that send the NDR spam (backscatter). This works very well for us. Contact the postmaster that send it to you and give them a hard time about it. If we all did that it would clear up pretty quick…… Sorry, that is about it. No real solution to this one….. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: NDR SPAM
If anyone can do a good job, Ironport can. But there is no way that would work 100%. Not with some of the NDR I have seen. But I'd love to know how it works out for you... On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got an Ironport C350 that claims it can filter out NDR's that didn't result from emails that originated from your site. I haven't tried enabling it, and it may not be practical in the configuration I'm using the box in but it might be worth investigating. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
They claim to be able to add a unique identifier to outbound emails that lets them determine if the NDR is the result of an email bearing that identifier. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR SPAM If anyone can do a good job, Ironport can. But there is no way that would work 100%. Not with some of the NDR I have seen. But I'd love to know how it works out for you... On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got an Ironport C350 that claims it can filter out NDR's that didn't result from emails that originated from your site. I haven't tried enabling it, and it may not be practical in the configuration I'm using the box in but it might be worth investigating. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
Unfortunately, many MTA's have started using delayed delivery failure as a means of thwarting address harvesting. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR SPAM Something to note, is that you can choose to report backscatter NDR senders to their ISP and to DNS blacklists that track these types of offenses. NDRs should only be communicated via the SMTP session in the form of an SMTP status code. They should not be sent post-reception as emails. Sender authentication (SPF, etc) use and scrutiny will surely increase over the next few years, but its going to be slow climb. Filtering for specific verbiage of certain NDRs is relatively easy to do - particularly if you have a filter that supports true regular expression syntax. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue them! Sorry, couldn't resist J Nothing will really work. Things you can do to help a bit. Put up an SPF record, hopefully more people will start using them. That would stop the servers that are sending you the NDR's from accepting the original message in the first placebut I would argue that anyone sending NDR Spam (backscatter) probably isn't bright enough to use SPF in the first place. Aggressive blacklist usage and block at the IP address. More and more RBL's are listing people that send the NDR spam (backscatter). This works very well for us. Contact the postmaster that send it to you and give them a hard time about it. If we all did that it would clear up pretty quick.. Sorry, that is about it. No real solution to this one. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: NDR SPAM
I'm sure they do - but not all replies from all systems contain the original custom headers... or even the original Message-ID header for that matter. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:32 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They claim to be able to add a unique identifier to outbound emails that lets them determine if the NDR is the result of an email bearing that identifier. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR SPAM If anyone can do a good job, Ironport can. But there is no way that would work 100%. Not with some of the NDR I have seen. But I'd love to know how it works out for you... On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Campbell, Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've got an Ironport C350 that claims it can filter out NDR's that didn't result from emails that originated from your site. I haven't tried enabling it, and it may not be practical in the configuration I'm using the box in but it might be worth investigating. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 7:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
I am a bit of a hard nose on this whole backscatter issue. People that are doing what you describe are more than welcome to do so as far as I am concerned. As long as they follow the RFC. If they respond with '250 Message accepted' then they MUST either deliver the message or return the NDR to the SENDER. (caps added based upon my recollection of that RFC). Sending to a from address does not ensure that it is going to the sender. That makes them abusive and subject to blacklisting. People trying to solve their incoming spam problem by abusing other peoples email systems really tick me off. -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 12:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR SPAM Unfortunately, many MTA's have started using delayed delivery failure as a means of thwarting address harvesting. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
Ours detects harvesting and blocks connections from the guilty IP for 24 hours with a 4xx code. -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 9:35 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR SPAM Unfortunately, many MTA's have started using delayed delivery failure as a means of thwarting address harvesting. -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 11:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: NDR SPAM Something to note, is that you can choose to report backscatter NDR senders to their ISP and to DNS blacklists that track these types of offenses. NDRs should only be communicated via the SMTP session in the form of an SMTP status code. They should not be sent post-reception as emails. Sender authentication (SPF, etc) use and scrutiny will surely increase over the next few years, but its going to be slow climb. Filtering for specific verbiage of certain NDRs is relatively easy to do - particularly if you have a filter that supports true regular expression syntax. On Thu, Jun 5, 2008 at 12:22 PM, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sue them! Sorry, couldn't resist J Nothing will really work. Things you can do to help a bit. Put up an SPF record, hopefully more people will start using them. That would stop the servers that are sending you the NDR's from accepting the original message in the first placebut I would argue that anyone sending NDR Spam (backscatter) probably isn't bright enough to use SPF in the first place. Aggressive blacklist usage and block at the IP address. More and more RBL's are listing people that send the NDR spam (backscatter). This works very well for us. Contact the postmaster that send it to you and give them a hard time about it. If we all did that it would clear up pretty quick.. Sorry, that is about it. No real solution to this one. From: Theochares, George [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2008 8:46 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR SPAM Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? -- ME2 ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR SPAM
Getting hit with more NDR SPAM. Most is stopped but has anyone found a solution that really works? BATV: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bounce_Address_Tag_Validation The Ironport solution uses this although they don't call it that. It works really well, though be sure you have the latest release of AsyncOS 5.5 or 6.1 due to a recently fixed bug. Note that BATV can aggravate issues caused by receivers who've implemented abusive anti-spam measures like SAV callbacks or challenge-response. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message
Carl, Thanks for this post, this made me go into my mail settings and make sure I had this set. A bit of searching on help tips there led me to this: http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Sender-Recipient-Filtering.html which helped my lock down the sending filters further. NDR spam has been the latest headache at my biggest client for the last three weeks or so. Sad that out of 5000 e-mails only 10% is legitimate! I love these kinds of threads, I always learn something... Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message Everyone who receives mail directly at their Exchange 2003 SMTP virtual server should enable filter recipients who are not in the directory and tarpitting. Yes, it is effective at blocking NDR spam. Of course if GFI is in front of Exchange then you presumably have a similar setting within GFI, assuming GFI can validate recipients within active directory. Carl From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message After extricating my domain from an RBL, the tech suggested I change a setting on the mail server to only send the bounce message without the original message. Is this the same as stripping attachments on an NDR? I'm running Exchange 2003 fully patched. I've verified that I'm not an open relay, and only my mail server can send SMTP messages from my network. Is anyone doing Recipient filtering with tar pitting? Is it effective or a pain? I'm using GFI Mail Essentials currently. Any other suggestions for blocking spam, both internally and to prevent our domain from being used as an NDR attack vector? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message
Nice to know, thanks for following up. This is one of those things, along with publish an SPF record that could stand to be repeated on a regular basis. Carl From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message Carl, Thanks for this post, this made me go into my mail settings and make sure I had this set. A bit of searching on help tips there led me to this: http://www.msexchange.org/tutorials/Sender-Recipient-Filtering.html which helped my lock down the sending filters further. NDR spam has been the latest headache at my biggest client for the last three weeks or so. Sad that out of 5000 e-mails only 10% is legitimate! I love these kinds of threads, I always learn something. Dave Lum - Systems Engineer [EMAIL PROTECTED] - (971)-222-1025 When you step on the brakes your life is in your foot's hands From: Carl Houseman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 11:28 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message Everyone who receives mail directly at their Exchange 2003 SMTP virtual server should enable filter recipients who are not in the directory and tarpitting. Yes, it is effective at blocking NDR spam. Of course if GFI is in front of Exchange then you presumably have a similar setting within GFI, assuming GFI can validate recipients within active directory. Carl _ From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message After extricating my domain from an RBL, the tech suggested I change a setting on the mail server to only send the bounce message without the original message. Is this the same as stripping attachments on an NDR? I'm running Exchange 2003 fully patched. I've verified that I'm not an open relay, and only my mail server can send SMTP messages from my network. Is anyone doing Recipient filtering with tar pitting? Is it effective or a pain? I'm using GFI Mail Essentials currently. Any other suggestions for blocking spam, both internally and to prevent our domain from being used as an NDR attack vector? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
If I eliminate NDRs completely for invalid addresses, though, then people who make innocent typing mistakes will not know that their message did not get through. If you think about mail flow more completely, you will see this most likely isn't the case. 1. [EMAIL PROTECTED] submits mail to mta.foo.com addressed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. mta.foo.com attempts to relay mail to mx.bar.com: mta.foo.com - HELO foo.com mx.bar.com - 250 'Hi, Pleased to meet you' mta.foo.com - MAIL FROM: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mx.bar.com - 250 'Sender OK' mta.foo.com - RCPT TO: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. mx.bar.com queries ldap and finds [EMAIL PROTECTED] invalid mx.bar.com - 550 #5.5.1 '[EMAIL PROTECTED] doesn't exist' mta.foo.com - QUIT 4. mta.foo.com sends report to [EMAIL PROTECTED] that message couldn't be delivered A couple cases where there would be no notification... 1. The typoed address exists and mail is delivered to a non-intended destination 2. mta.foo.com is broken and doesn't do step 4. In short, not a big concern. ~JasonG -- ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
Stop sending NDRs? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
You asked almost the same question and I answered it on Monday. But here it is again: Your server should not send any message in response to an undeliverable message. That means you use recipient filtering (filter recipients who are not in the directory) and tarpitting. It's also less load on the server to do this. Carl _ From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
You strip the attachment you are still sending messages that you don't need to and shouldn't, and would still be participating in sending NDR's to people that should not be getting them. Recipient filtering stops that and lessens the load on your server and bandwidth. From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
Doctor, it hurts when I do this. Stop doing that. The less crud you accept that you will not end up delivering, the less email you will NDR. Recipient filtering goes a long, long way to prevent blowback. Since the bad emails are coming from lots of different IP, tar pitting won't work as well. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? Stop sending NDRs? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
I'd think recipient filtering as long as it's done at the front door would eliminate NDRs for invalid addresses. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? Stop sending NDRs? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better?
If I eliminate NDRs completely for invalid addresses, though, then people who make innocent typing mistakes will not know that their message did not get through. .. I re-read KB909005, and I missed the part about NDRs still being generated but pushing it back to the sending server before accepting the message. I think that will work. Thanks, Kyle B. Plummer From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:53 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'd think recipient filtering as long as it's done at the front door would eliminate NDRs for invalid addresses. From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 8:44 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? Stop sending NDRs? Regards, Michael B. Smith MCSE/Exchange MVP http://TheEssentialExchange.com From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:42 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR attachment stripping or recipient filtering - which is better? I'm using Exchange 2003 and am trying to keep my domain from participating in NDR flood attacks. I've identified two possible methods: NDR attachment stripping, or recipient filtering paired with SMTP tar pitting. Any preference as to which is better, or are there other methods to fight this crud? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message
Recipient validation up front, so you can 554 it during the SMTP phase. I don't recall exactly where it is at in 2003 From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message After extricating my domain from an RBL, the tech suggested I change a setting on the mail server to only send the bounce message without the original message. Is this the same as stripping attachments on an NDR? I'm running Exchange 2003 fully patched. I've verified that I'm not an open relay, and only my mail server can send SMTP messages from my network. Is anyone doing Recipient filtering with tar pitting? Is it effective or a pain? I'm using GFI Mail Essentials currently. Any other suggestions for blocking spam, both internally and to prevent our domain from being used as an NDR attack vector? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message
Everyone who receives mail directly at their Exchange 2003 SMTP virtual server should enable filter recipients who are not in the directory and tarpitting. Yes, it is effective at blocking NDR spam. Of course if GFI is in front of Exchange then you presumably have a similar setting within GFI, assuming GFI can validate recipients within active directory. Carl _ From: Kyle Plummer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 2:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR setting to send only bounce message without the original message After extricating my domain from an RBL, the tech suggested I change a setting on the mail server to only send the bounce message without the original message. Is this the same as stripping attachments on an NDR? I'm running Exchange 2003 fully patched. I've verified that I'm not an open relay, and only my mail server can send SMTP messages from my network. Is anyone doing Recipient filtering with tar pitting? Is it effective or a pain? I'm using GFI Mail Essentials currently. Any other suggestions for blocking spam, both internally and to prevent our domain from being used as an NDR attack vector? Thanks in advance, Kyle B. Plummer ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: NDR
How have we received mail from these people and are unable to reply? -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 February 2002 21:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:Re: NDR Sounds like you have the answer - what was the question? Steve Spittal wrote: Forgive me if this is an of topic posting. We use exchange 5.5 sp4 with content filter Baltimore's mail sweeper which has all mail forwarded to it from exchange. Content filtering machine has routing of *.* which should force an MX lookup through external DNS and send the mail. We have now on two recent occasions received mail that users have tried to reply to, and they receive an NDR stating smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay [EMAIL PROTECTED] this clearly means that no MX record exists for the domain. Which I have confirmed via nslookup. Can anyone serve up any clues? Thanks ** This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, Pharmagene makes every effort to keep its network free from viruses including the scanning of incoming and outgoing mail. However, you do need to check this e-mail and any attachments to it for viruses as Pharmagene can take no responsibility for any computer virus that might be transferred by way of this e-mail. Pharmagene plc 2 Orchard Road, Royston, Hertfordshire, SG8 5HD, UK. Registered in England Wales under company number 03355618. ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm WorldSecure Server safeway.com made the following annotations on 02/12/02 14:27:19 -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
Because you don't need an MX record to send anything. Just receive. Try it out. Set up a IIS SMTP server or anything. It will work. If your company wants to be picky, then you can do a reverse-DNS lookup on all incoming mail. But that just means they have to have their DNS working, and be able to resolve the IP to the hostname for the mail server, they still don't need an MX record. Hope this helps. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Steve Spittal [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2002 3:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR How have we received mail from these people and are unable to reply? -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 February 2002 21:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:Re: NDR Sounds like you have the answer - what was the question? Steve Spittal wrote: Forgive me if this is an of topic posting. We use exchange 5.5 sp4 with content filter Baltimore's mail sweeper which has all mail forwarded to it from exchange. Content filtering machine has routing of *.* which should force an MX lookup through external DNS and send the mail. We have now on two recent occasions received mail that users have tried to reply to, and they receive an NDR stating smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay [EMAIL PROTECTED] this clearly means that no MX record exists for the domain. Which I have confirmed via nslookup. Can anyone serve up any clues? Thanks ** This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, Pharmagene makes every effort to keep its network free from viruses including the scanning of incoming and outgoing mail. However, you do need to check this e-mail and any attachments to it for viruses as Pharmagene can take no responsibility for any computer virus that might be transferred by way of this e-mail. Pharmagene plc 2 Orchard Road, Royston, Hertfordshire, SG8 5HD, UK. Registered in England Wales under company number 03355618. ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm WorldSecure Server safeway.com made the following annotations on 02/12/02 14:27:19 -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: NDR
they spoofed the from: - you can even do it with telnet. Steve Spittal wrote: How have we received mail from these people and are unable to reply? -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 12 February 2002 21:27 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:Re: NDR Sounds like you have the answer - what was the question? Steve Spittal wrote: Forgive me if this is an of topic posting. We use exchange 5.5 sp4 with content filter Baltimore's mail sweeper which has all mail forwarded to it from exchange. Content filtering machine has routing of *.* which should force an MX lookup through external DNS and send the mail. We have now on two recent occasions received mail that users have tried to reply to, and they receive an NDR stating smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay [EMAIL PROTECTED] this clearly means that no MX record exists for the domain. Which I have confirmed via nslookup. Can anyone serve up any clues? Thanks ** This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, Pharmagene makes every effort to keep its network free from viruses including the scanning of incoming and outgoing mail. However, you do need to check this e-mail and any attachments to it for viruses as Pharmagene can take no responsibility for any computer virus that might be transferred by way of this e-mail. Pharmagene plc 2 Orchard Road, Royston, Hertfordshire, SG8 5HD, UK. Registered in England Wales under company number 03355618. ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm WorldSecure Server safeway.com made the following annotations on 02/12/02 14:27:19 -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm WorldSecure Server safeway.com made the following annotations on 02/13/02 13:52:05 -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: NDR
Sounds like you have the answer - what was the question? Steve Spittal wrote: Forgive me if this is an of topic posting. We use exchange 5.5 sp4 with content filter Baltimore's mail sweeper which has all mail forwarded to it from exchange. Content filtering machine has routing of *.* which should force an MX lookup through external DNS and send the mail. We have now on two recent occasions received mail that users have tried to reply to, and they receive an NDR stating smtp; 550 5.7.1 Unable to relay [EMAIL PROTECTED] this clearly means that no MX record exists for the domain. Which I have confirmed via nslookup. Can anyone serve up any clues? Thanks ** This message and any files transmitted with it are intended for the addressee only and may contain information that is confidential or privileged. Unauthorised use is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you are not the addressee, you should not read, copy, disclose or otherwise use this message, except for the purpose of delivery to the addressee. If you received it in error please notify us immediately and then destroy it. Further, Pharmagene makes every effort to keep its network free from viruses including the scanning of incoming and outgoing mail. However, you do need to check this e-mail and any attachments to it for viruses as Pharmagene can take no responsibility for any computer virus that might be transferred by way of this e-mail. Pharmagene plc 2 Orchard Road, Royston, Hertfordshire, SG8 5HD, UK. Registered in England Wales under company number 03355618. ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm WorldSecure Server safeway.com made the following annotations on 02/12/02 14:27:19 -- Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Safeway corporate e-mail system, and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. This e-mail may contain information proprietary to Safeway and is intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s). If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient(s), you are notified that you have received this message in error and that any review, dissemination, distribution or copying of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR Still having problems
Title: Message
I am
still having problems with this.
I can
send to the address from an outside A/C but nothing from
internal.
Its as
if the Exchange server is stopping me sending to this Domain. I have
checked with their admin and we are not balcklisted.
It
does look like DNS but I can resolve there name and MX record using
NSLOOKUP.
Is there anywhere else in Exchange or DNS I
should be looking to reslove this.
The
error message to remind everyone that I get is
Your message did not reach some or all
of the intended recipients.
Subject: test
Sent: 21/12/2001
08:55
The following recipient(s) could not be
reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on
21/12/2001 08:55
The recipient name is not
recognized
The MTS-ID of the original
message is: c=US;a= ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011221085451Z-222
Thanks
for any and all of your help.
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
17:37To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Then
their might be a problem at the recipient server not being able to query its
directory.
You
could telnet and try the VRFY command.
-Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday,
December 19, 2001 9:31 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
That's what it looks like, but there are other email
addresses at the same domain that I know are correct and I am still getting an
NDR about 5 seconds after sending.
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
16:34To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the
recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the
recipient name.
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December
19, 2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
If Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username
doesnt exist.
-Original Message-From: Kevan
Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
This is the error message that I
recieve.
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended
recipients.Subject:
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be
reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001
15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send
mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail
server. If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail
domain button. Enter theFQDN and select the option
"Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP
address of the domain.
Stop and restart IMS.
Laurent
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject:
RE: NDR
whats the error message you are
receiving?
Brian
-Original Message-From: Paul
Williams
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange
Admin IssuesSubject: NDR
We use Exchange 5.5
sp4
on SBS 4.5.
Clients outlook
2000.
We are having problems
sending mail to some domains.
The messages that we
can not send are bounced immediately.
This leads me to
suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue
on our site.
Has anyone any ideas
where to start checking.
I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem
appropriate.
As I said earlier some
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know
RE: NDR
You could try using the restest.exe file (on the Exchange CD in the support directory I think), which uses the same process that the IMS uses to resolve hostnames. Neil -Original Message- From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 19 December 2001 11:34 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: NDR Subject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
whats the error message you are receiving? Brian -Original Message-From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
Title: Message Paul the most of Cases for Troubleshotting problems of Outbound mails is by DNS problems. Exchange when send external email check DNS and search MX of remote Domain then connect to MX by port 25 to remote Domain. I think is a problem with ISP. test youtelnet port 25 to remote domain from Exchange Server? -Original Message-From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 8:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
This is the error message that I recieve. Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.Subject: test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 15:41 The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53 Kevan -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the domain. Stop and restart IMS. Laurent -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR whats the error message you are receiving? Brian -Original Message-From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
Title: Message If Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt exist. -Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR This is the error message that I recieve. Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.Subject: test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 15:41 The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53 Kevan -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the domain. Stop and restart IMS. Laurent -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR whats the error message you are receiving? Brian -Original Message-From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
The receiving mail server accepts the connection, but is unable to find a mailbox by that name. bursar.secretary does not exist. The domain pmb.ox.ac.uk is correct, though. William -Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 7:52 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR This is the error message that I recieve. Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients.Subject: test from onpSent: 19/12/2001 15:41 The following recipient(s) could not be reached: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001 15:41 The recipient name is not recognized The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a= ;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53 Kevan -Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001 15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the domain. Stop and restart IMS. Laurent -Original Message-From: Brian Bauer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR whats the error message you are receiving? Brian -Original Message-From: Paul Williams [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000. We are having problems sending mail to some domains. The messages that we can not send are bounced immediately. This leads me to suspect there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our site. Has anyone any ideas where to start checking. I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem appropriate. As I said earlier some (most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains are bounced. Our ISP claims that they have no DNS issues that they are aware of. Any pointers will be gratefully accepted. Kevan Dickinson List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
Title: Message
Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the
recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the
recipient name.
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19,
2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
If
Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt exist.
-Original Message-From: Kevan
Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
This
is the error message that I recieve.
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended
recipients.Subject:
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001
15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send mail
to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server. If they
don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain button. Enter
theFQDN and select the option "Forward all messages for this domain
to host:" and enter the IP address of the domain.
Stop and restart IMS.
Laurent
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?
Brian
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: NDR
We use Exchange 5.5 sp4 on
SBS 4.5. Clients outlook 2000.
We are having problems
sending mail to some domains.
The messages that we can
not send are bounced immediately.
This leads me to suspect
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our
site.
Has anyone any ideas where
to start checking. I have
read a lot of tech net articles but none seem
appropriate.
As I said earlier some
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains
are bounced.
Our ISP claims that they
have no DNS issues that they are aware
of.
Any pointers will be gratefully
accepted.
Kevan
Dickinson
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RE: NDR
Title: Message
That's
what it looks like, but there are other email addresses at the same domain that
I know are correct and I am still getting an NDR about 5 seconds after
sending.
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
16:34To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the
recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the
recipient name.
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19,
2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
If
Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt
exist.
-Original Message-From: Kevan
Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
This is the error message that I
recieve.
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended
recipients.Subject:
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be
reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001
15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send
mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server.
If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain
button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all
messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the
domain.
Stop and restart IMS.
Laurent
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?
Brian
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: NDR
We use Exchange 5.5
sp4
on SBS 4.5.
Clients outlook
2000.
We are having problems
sending mail to some domains.
The messages that we can
not send are bounced immediately.
This leads me to suspect
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our
site.
Has anyone any ideas
where to start checking.
I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem
appropriate.
As I said earlier some
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains
are bounced.
Our ISP claims that they
have no DNS issues that they are aware
of.
Any pointers will be gratefully
accepted.
Kevan
Dickinson
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RE: NDR
Title: Message
Then
their might be a problem at the recipient server not being able to query its
directory.
You
could telnet and try the VRFY command.
-Original Message-From: Kevan Dickinson
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday,
December 19, 2001 9:31 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
That's
what it looks like, but there are other email addresses at the same domain that
I know are correct and I am still getting an NDR about 5 seconds after
sending.
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Preston Jeffares
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
16:34To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Yeah... it's resolving the name and contacting the server... but the
recipient address is not found on the remote mail server. Check the
recipient name.
-Original Message-From: Benjamin Zachary
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19,
2001 11:24 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
If
Im reading it correctly, the domain was found but that username doesnt
exist.
-Original Message-From: Kevan
Dickinson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 10:52 AMTo:
MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR
This is the error message that I
recieve.
Your message did not reach some or all of the intended
recipients.Subject:
test from onpSent: 19/12/2001
15:41
The following recipient(s) could not be
reached:
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 19/12/2001
15:41
The recipient name is not recognized
The MTS-ID of the original message is: c=US;a=
;p=ONPSBS;l=SBSSERVER-011219154034Z-53
Kevan
-Original Message-From: Gousset, Laurent
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 19 December 2001
15:40To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
Do an nslookup on the domain name that you are trying to send
mail to and see if they have an MX reccord for their mail server.
If they don't, add the domain name in on the IMS|E-mail domain
button. Enter theFQDN and select the option "Forward all
messages for this domain to host:" and enter the IP address of the
domain.
Stop and restart IMS.
Laurent
-Original Message-From: Brian Bauer
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001
5:42 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE:
NDR
whats the error message you are receiving?
Brian
-Original Message-From: Paul Williams
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent:
Wednesday, December 19, 2001 6:34 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin
IssuesSubject: NDR
We use Exchange 5.5
sp4
on SBS 4.5.
Clients outlook
2000.
We are having problems
sending mail to some domains.
The messages that we can
not send are bounced immediately.
This leads me to suspect
there is an incorrect setting in exchange or a DNS issue on our
site.
Has anyone any ideas
where to start checking.
I have read a lot of tech net articles but none seem
appropriate.
As I said earlier some
(most) mails are delivered OK but others to quiet well know domains
are bounced.
Our ISP claims that they
have no DNS issues that they are aware
of.
Any pointers will be gratefully
accepted.
Kevan
Dickinson
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RE: NDR
Yes. Get Lotus Goats -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR Is there anyway to create an NDR like the one below in Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable message --- Failure Reasons User not listed in public Name Address Book [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Returned Message Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com ([206.214.98.14]) by MENYCNTN3.NEWYORK.MCCANN.COM (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) with List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR
I feel like such an idiot because I knew it was lotus notes, but my boss wanted me to find out about it. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 1:00 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR Yes. Get Lotus Goats -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2001 9:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: NDR Is there anyway to create an NDR like the one below in Exchange. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, July 31, 1999 7:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undeliverable message --- Failure Reasons User not listed in public Name Address Book [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Returned Message Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com ([206.214.98.14]) by MENYCNTN3.NEWYORK.MCCANN.COM (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.4 (830.2 3-23-1999)) with List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR when scheduling a meeting
Title: NDR when scheduling a meeting Blake, Check for delegates configured on the Outlook clients. On Outlook 2000, its Tools, Options, Delegates Tab. The delegates are probably configured to receive copies of the meeting requests. I saw this here. Tim Dzierzek -Original Message-From: Blake R. Fowkes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 2:02 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR when scheduling a meeting I have a strange one happening. Server: NT 4 SP6a (all patches) Exchange 5.5 SP4 Client: Various OSes Various versions of Outlook When I schedule a meeting for employee 1 I get an NDR. I can send email messages to this user with no problems. The really strange thing is that the NDR is referencing a user that is no longer with the company say xemployee 5. I have checked the employee 1's mailbox and there is no reference that I can find at all to xemployee 5. Do any of you know what else I could look for? Thanks, Blake Fowkes Waid and Associates Do now follow where the path may lead. Go instead where there is no path and leave a trail. - Muriel Strode List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders
OK, so nobody answered my question. Does this mean that nobody else is trying to do this, or am I not worthy of a reply? ;-) As a follow up I created a new user and mail box and set the NDR's to go to that. That works fine. I then changed the settings (Under delivery options) for the new user to forward to my mail box. That too worked. Then I changed it to forward to a public folder, and it stopped working. I granted both Anonymous and Default Owner permissions on the public folder to rule out a permission problem, and still it does not work. This is the last outstanding problem I have with my Exchange Server since I upgraded it to Ex2000 from Ex5.5. Any help anyone could give me would help preserve my sanity, even if it's just 'Yes we do this and it works fine' or 'no that does not work/not possible' This seems such a simple thing, I can't believe that it does not work! Thanks Stephen -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead Sent: 24 September 2001 14:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:NDR Postmaster and Public folders Just a quick question, has anyone ever got and NDR to go to a public folder. I have filled in the 'Send a copy of NDR to...' on the Messages tab of my SMTP Virtual server and it will send to the email address of a real user, but not a public folders email address? Is this just me doing something wrong, has anyone else got this working? Thanks Stephen. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders
Just checked that, it is visible in the GAL. One other point I neglected to mention was that when the User is set to forward to a public folder, it only fails when used by the SMTP service for NDRs If I sent a mail from my Account, it is forwarded to the public folder without any problems. I have also have the same problem with distribution lists. If there are normal user mailbox's in the DL then it all works. If I add a PF to the DL then it fails to send any mail, but only when used by the NDR. If I send a mail to it from my exchange account or from an external hotmail account it works. Hence my confussion Thanks Stephen. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 13:31 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders Is your Public Folder visible in the GAL? I think by default when you create PF's, they are hidden. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems, Inc. -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:29 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders OK, so nobody answered my question. Does this mean that nobody else is trying to do this, or am I not worthy of a reply? ;-) As a follow up I created a new user and mail box and set the NDR's to go to that. That works fine. I then changed the settings (Under delivery options) for the new user to forward to my mail box. That too worked. Then I changed it to forward to a public folder, and it stopped working. I granted both Anonymous and Default Owner permissions on the public folder to rule out a permission problem, and still it does not work. This is the last outstanding problem I have with my Exchange Server since I upgraded it to Ex2000 from Ex5.5. Any help anyone could give me would help preserve my sanity, even if it's just 'Yes we do this and it works fine' or 'no that does not work/not possible' This seems such a simple thing, I can't believe that it does not work! Thanks Stephen -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead Sent: 24 September 2001 14:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:NDR Postmaster and Public folders Just a quick question, has anyone ever got and NDR to go to a public folder. I have filled in the 'Send a copy of NDR to...' on the Messages tab of my SMTP Virtual server and it will send to the email address of a real user, but not a public folders email address? Is this just me doing something wrong, has anyone else got this working? Thanks Stephen. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders
Yep it is mail enabled. The folder existed before the upgrade to Ex2000, which appears to have mail enabled it for me. Stephen. -Original Message- From: Markus Lindemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders Have you 'mail enabled' it? -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 13:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders OK, so nobody answered my question. Does this mean that nobody else is trying to do this, or am I not worthy of a reply? ;-) As a follow up I created a new user and mail box and set the NDR's to go to that. That works fine. SNIP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders
The upgrade to E2k hasn't mail enabled it; all public folders in Exchange 5.5 are mail enabled. In Exchange 2000 mixed mode, all MAPI public folders are mail enabled for backwards compatibility with Exchange 5.5 Neil -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Posted At: 25 September 2001 14:30 Posted To: Sunbelt Exchange List Conversation: NDR Postmaster and Public folders Subject: RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders Yep it is mail enabled. The folder existed before the upgrade to Ex2000, which appears to have mail enabled it for me. Stephen. -Original Message- From: Markus Lindemann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 14:01 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject:RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders Have you 'mail enabled' it? -Original Message- From: Stephen I. Woolhead [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 25 September 2001 13:29 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: NDR Postmaster and Public folders OK, so nobody answered my question. Does this mean that nobody else is trying to do this, or am I not worthy of a reply? ;-) As a follow up I created a new user and mail box and set the NDR's to go to that. That works fine. SNIP List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm ** This eMail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any view or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Silversands or any of its subsidiary companies. If you have received this eMail in error please contact the Support Desk Immediately by telephone on 01202-36 or on eMail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ** List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1
Title: Message Are you blacklisted? Did you do the stuff in this article? http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696also available here:http://downloads.members.tripod.com/ladysun1969/misc/relay.tif -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious. - -Original Message-From: Juan Ramirez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1 When I send messages to a particular remote domain I receive an non-deliveryreport (NDR) similar to the following:Your message did not reach some or all of the following recipients.[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/5/2001 2:68 PMYour mail system could not find a way to successfully communicate with thedestination system. Please notify your administrator. servername #5.5.0[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/5/2001 2:68 PMYour mail system could not find a way to successfully communicate with thedestination system. Please notify your administrator. servername #5.5.0In the Event Log I get the following:Source:MSExchange TransportCategory: Connection ManagerEvent Id: 4001Description: Message delivery to the remote domain 'remoteDomain' failed.The error message is 'An SMTP protocol error occurred. The SMTP verb whichcaused the error is 'RCPT'. The response from the remote server is '550Relaying is prohibited. Not all messages fail, for some reason when the users sends the message again it goes thru. All messages are legitimate users of our domain.Any ideas?ThanksList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1
Title: Message OK, but are you blacklisted? Have you checked with orbs or maps? Just in case? -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Chadowboxing: Debating back- and-forth as to how to count a close election. - -Original Message-From: Juan Ramirez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:33 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1 We are restricting relaying. Juan -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:27 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1 Are you blacklisted? Did you do the stuff in this article? http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Index.cfm?ArticleID=7696also available here:http://downloads.members.tripod.com/ladysun1969/misc/relay.tif -MichèleImmigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com Our new 2001 Miata: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Not one shred of evidence supports the notion that life is serious. - -Original Message-From: Juan Ramirez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 10:15 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: NDR On Exchange 2000 SP1 When I send messages to a particular remote domain I receive an non-deliveryreport (NDR) similar to the following:Your message did not reach some or all of the following recipients.[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/5/2001 2:68 PMYour mail system could not find a way to successfully communicate with thedestination system. Please notify your administrator. servername #5.5.0[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 9/5/2001 2:68 PMYour mail system could not find a way to successfully communicate with thedestination system. Please notify your administrator. servername #5.5.0In the Event Log I get the following:Source:MSExchange TransportCategory: Connection ManagerEvent Id: 4001Description: Message delivery to the remote domain 'remoteDomain' failed.The error message is 'An SMTP protocol error occurred. The SMTP verb whichcaused the error is 'RCPT'. The response from the remote server is '550Relaying is prohibited. Not all messages fail, for some reason when the users sends the message again it goes thru. All messages are legitimate users of our domain.Any ideas?ThanksList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
