[expert] Should I upgrade to latest KDE

2001-08-20 Thread Stephen Kitchener

Hi,

I seem to remember, that there was a date issue with KDE, in as much as
if I havn't upgraded from the original KDE that is supplied with
Mandrake 7.2. it would stop working.

'IF' (A big if I grant you) I remember correctly, the advise was that if
I hadn't upgraded by a certain date it (KDE) would stop working.

I am sorry that this is a bit vague, but that's all I can remember and
now cannot find any reference to it.

I put off upgrading as I had thought at the time that a new Mandrake
would be out with all the new stuff.


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Re: [expert] Should I upgrade to latest KDE

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

KDE isn't going to stop working by any given date on purpose.  If it
stops working, it's a bug.  I've never seen GPL software with an
expiration date put in it on purpose.

Stephen Kitchener wrote:
 Hi,
 I seem to remember, that there was a date issue with KDE, in as much as
 if I havn't upgraded from the original KDE that is supplied with
 Mandrake 7.2. it would stop working.
 'IF' (A big if I grant you) I remember correctly, the advise was that if
 I hadn't upgraded by a certain date it (KDE) would stop working.
 I am sorry that this is a bit vague, but that's all I can remember and
 now cannot find any reference to it.
 I put off upgrading as I had thought at the time that a new Mandrake
 would be out with all the new stuff.
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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs--with SSL support??

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:29:08 -0400
Bruce E.Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

BE I am looking into these various mail clients but need one that
BE supports SSL 
BE since my secure mail server demands this. Any recommendations? I am
BE using 
BE Mulberry, and Netscape but they are slow.
BE 
BE Best Regards, Bruce

Not certain it supports SSL, but Sylpheed is very fast.  Why not check out
sylpheed.good-day.net (no www) to be see if it has everything you need.
Mike

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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

At 17.04 19/08/01, you wrote:
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On Sunday 19 August 2001 09:23, Olaf Marzocchi wrote:
  I'm going to change mail program (I am currently using Eudora) in
  order to switch to Linux completely.
  Now I need to know which one is faster because I have mailboxes with
  more than 8K messages (for example, that with this ML inside).

Mailboxen with 8000+ messages  Delete those suckers, and
use the mail archives at
 http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/

I usually read the mail off-line, moreover finding some informations inside 
the HD is faster and less expensive than connecting to my dial-up provider 
and making a search in a on-line DB.

  I tried Evolution and KMail, but they semm rather slower compared to
  Eudora. I would prefer a Gnome app, if possible.

KMail is fast enough for me...

I gave a look to it, but the address manager literally sucks! I have never 
seen such a simple manager! I know Eudora's one is almost completely 
useless, but KMail is the opposite!

It also crashed sometime.

Another question: nobody mentioned Mozilla Messenger: does it sucks so much?

Thank you for the help

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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

At 18.18 19/08/01, you wrote:

Since I use a mapped home directory - the same one from both machines - I have
all of my messages available wherever I am. Polarbar stores mail as individual
pop files making it very easy to access messages even outside of the mail
client.

Individual POP files? one per message? if so, it wastes lots of space!

Olaf


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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

At 17.40 19/08/01, you wrote:

Go to sylpheed.good-day.net

Sylpheed 0.5.3. isIMHO about as fast as they get.  As usual, YMMV.  Give
it a try. It is an excellent MUA.
Mike

First: what does YMMV mean?

Second: thank you for all your suggestions, I will try every app you 
mentioned. I would have liked a comparison more precise, but I will do it 
myself. Obviously if you know a page with some scientific comparison 
please indicate it.

Thank you for your help.

Olaf


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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs--with SSL support??

2001-08-20 Thread Bruce E.Harris

Already did. I grabbed it as soon as I saw your email. It is quick and I do 
like it but too bad no SSL support. 

Bruce


On Monday 20 August 2001 06:12 am, you wrote:
 On Sun, 19 Aug 2001 12:29:08 -0400
 Bruce E.Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] insightfully noted:

 BE I am looking into these various mail clients but need one that
 BE supports SSL
 BE since my secure mail server demands this. Any recommendations? I am
 BE using
 BE Mulberry, and Netscape but they are slow.
 BE
 BE Best Regards, Bruce
 
 Not certain it supports SSL, but Sylpheed is very fast.  Why not check out
 sylpheed.good-day.net (no www) to be see if it has everything you need.
 Mike


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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

 At 20.01 19/08/01, you wrote:

Currently I use Pine for all my email needs.  It's complete, robust and
secure, but most people turn it down since it is console based.  Your
call, but my recommendation is pine.

I will try EVERYTHING: my decision must be wise. Anyway, I think pine uses 
the same MBOX format of every other UNIX mail manager, isn't it?

Olaf


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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs--with SSL support??

2001-08-20 Thread Olaf Marzocchi

At 18.29 19/08/01, Bruce E.Harris wrote:
I am looking into these various mail clients but need one that supports SSL
since my secure mail server demands this. Any recommendations? I am using
Mulberry, and Netscape but they are slow.

Best Regards, Bruce

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I didn't ask this in my previous mail, but it's important: which mailers 
support multiple POP3 accounts and smtp outgoing mail? (my technical 
language may be wrong, please correct me if needed).

Olaf


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Re: [expert] Should I upgrade to latest KDE

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

Keep your eyes open.  Like I said, there may be a bug which would time
limit KDE 1, but I'm not aware of it.  I know it wasn't time limited on
purpose.  (If it is.)

Stephen Kitchener wrote:
 Hi,
 Thanks - I was stupid to think that there was, but I had to ask the
 question as I had thought that there was something that I read to that
 effect.
 
 Sorry for the noise.
 
 Digital Wokan wrote:
 
  KDE isn't going to stop working by any given date on purpose.  If it
  stops working, it's a bug.  I've never seen GPL software with an
  expiration date put in it on purpose.
 
  Stephen Kitchener wrote:
   Hi,
   I seem to remember, that there was a date issue with KDE, in as much as
   if I havn't upgraded from the original KDE that is supplied with
   Mandrake 7.2. it would stop working.
   'IF' (A big if I grant you) I remember correctly, the advise was that if
   I hadn't upgraded by a certain date it (KDE) would stop working.
   I am sorry that this is a bit vague, but that's all I can remember and
   now cannot find any reference to it.
   I put off upgrading as I had thought at the time that a new Mandrake
   would be out with all the new stuff.
   --
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Re: [expert] Should I upgrade to latest KDE

2001-08-20 Thread Stephen Kitchener

Hi,

Thanks - I was stupid to think that there was, but I had to ask the
question as I had thought that there was something that I read to that
effect.

Sorry for the noise.


Digital Wokan wrote:
 
 KDE isn't going to stop working by any given date on purpose.  If it
 stops working, it's a bug.  I've never seen GPL software with an
 expiration date put in it on purpose.
 
 Stephen Kitchener wrote:
  Hi,
  I seem to remember, that there was a date issue with KDE, in as much as
  if I havn't upgraded from the original KDE that is supplied with
  Mandrake 7.2. it would stop working.
  'IF' (A big if I grant you) I remember correctly, the advise was that if
  I hadn't upgraded by a certain date it (KDE) would stop working.
  I am sorry that this is a bit vague, but that's all I can remember and
  now cannot find any reference to it.
  I put off upgrading as I had thought at the time that a new Mandrake
  would be out with all the new stuff.
  --
  Steve Kitchener
 
   
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[expert] Ipv6 support

2001-08-20 Thread IPv6 project

Hi all,
I was told that Mandrake 8.0 is IPv6 enabled. However, I can not use it to 
implement IPv6 !!!.I guess to have IPv6 enabled is not enough to directly 
use it.  What should I do to get IPv6 working, any additional patches that I 
should run?. any body can help ?

Regards
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RE: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 beta1 problems...

2001-08-20 Thread Charles A Edwards

I went a different route.
Since I use Gnome instead of Kde I did not install kdepim.

There is a newer release of kdepm available from cooker.
Install it and it should properly rewrite those entries.

   Charles  (-:

Forever never goes beyond tomorrow.

 -Original Message-
 From: Sergio Korlowsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Monday, August 20, 2001 2:36 AM
 To: Charles A Edwards
 Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 beta1 problems...


 On Sunday 19 August 2001 03:09 pm, you wrote:

 Charles...
 I was having the same problem with the menus, I was planning
 to tinker those
 files and remove the double quotes, but I couldn't get as
 root for some oher
 problems, so I delete the files, ran update-menus and log out
 and log in
 again and everything was back in place, but I would like to
 replace those
 files I had to remove... would you mind sending me those three files?

   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kandy
   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-korganizer
   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kpilot

 I supposed they were in there with a purpose, not by accident ;-)

 TIA

 Sergio Korlowsky

  The following was posted by Civileme on 8/17.
 
  Charles
 
 
 
 
  http://mandrakeforum.com/article.php?sid=1223lang=en
 
 
  BUGS in BETA 1 and FIXES so you can test better
 
  BUGS KNOWN AND FIXES:p
  1-Printer Test files are missing--because Printer install
 is completely
  accomplished during installation by PrinterDrake and
 because any later
  install is also by PrinterDrake,the installation of printers is not
  possible, because these packages are needed.  Download
  ''printer-testpages'' rpm from Cooker./p
 
  p
  2-Menus for all your window managers will be spotty and
 incomplete.  There
  are two ways to fix
  this without a new RPM.  /pulli
 
  a.  Delete the following three filesulli
   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kandyli
   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-korganizerli
   /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kpilotli/ulli
  and run (as root) update-menus logout and loginli
   If you are unable to get a terminal running in KDE to do this
   hit alt-F2 and type konsole without the quotes.li
 
  b.  (For tinkerers)ulli
  /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kandy has an extra double quote ()
  fillowing%c in the line--delete itli
  /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-korganizer has an extra
 double quote
  following korganize--change it
   to the letter ''r''li
  /usr/lib/menu/kdepim-kpilot has an extra double
 quote following
  kpilo -- change it to a ''t''./ulli
   Then run update-menus, logout and login./ul
 
  Civileme
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Kaffehr
   Sent: Sunday, August 19, 2001 4:02 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [expert] Mandrake 8.1 beta1 problems...
  
  
   Hi!
  
   I did no problemswith installation, but my menues were
 also gone. So
   I could not do any real test. I was doing a fresh install on
   an unused
   partition of my disk.
  
   Erik
  
   söndag 19 augusti 2001 18:47 skrev du:
Ok I have MDK8.0 installed on one drive and MDK8.1B1 on another.
The most noticable thing is that 8.1B1 dident install
 my sound card
correctly and has some long error message at boot and hangs
  
   during kdzu
  
probing. After booting and logging in most of the menus are
  
   missing, ie.
  
applacations, configuration, amusement, documentation,
 multimedia,
networking etc... Maby I just got a bad download?
   
Anyone else having this menu problem
   
Just to let people know what problems i'm having with 8.1 Beta.
   
Ralph
   

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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Gabriel Fortuna

Hiya

And yea, on Monday 20 August 2001 14:15, verily Olaf Marzocchi doth wroteth:

 First: what does YMMV mean?

Your Mileage May Vary: Means that you might not get the exact same results 
as someone else...

If your heart is set on Eudora, try running it through WINE.

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 FAT32 with datas

Any particular reason for publishing your specs? Strange...
 
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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 06:15:51AM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:

 I've been hoping for a while that these would show up in unsupported
 rebuilt from the Cooker versions or something.
 Anyone got some advice before I try building 8.0 versions of these from
 the Cooker SRPMS?

If you wait a bit (sorry, no ETA as we're having some difficulty with
some components for 7.x) an update will be out for Apache which
includes php 4.0.6 for 8.0 and 7.2.  Until then, feel free to download
the PHP packages from www.rpmhelp.net (which are unofficial).

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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs--with SSL support??

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:25:29 +0200
Olaf Marzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] was inspired to comment:

snip
 I didn't ask this in my previous mail, but it's important: which mailers
 support multiple POP3 accounts and smtp outgoing mail? (my technical 
 language may be wrong, please correct me if needed).
=
Sylpheed 0.5.x will handle multiple POP and smtp accounts (I'm using 3)
No I don't know of any scientific measures of speed done on a variety of
MUA's, but I write only from my own limited experience.  Of the gui
mailers I've tried, (sylpheed, Mahogany, kmail, one or two other
forgetable ones) sylpheed is the fastest in my experience.  Some of the
non gui (pine, mutt) may be even faster.
Mike

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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Michael Scottaline

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001 14:15:04 +0200

 First: what does YMMV mean?

You Mileage May Vary
Just an American expression, meaning you may not have te same experience.
Mike
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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Paul Cox

On Monday, Aug 20, 2001, Digital Wokan wrote:

 I've been hoping for a while that these would show up in unsupported
 rebuilt from the Cooker versions or something.
 Anyone got some advice before I try building 8.0 versions of these from
 the Cooker SRPMS?

Be patient... that's all I can say. =)

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[expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

I've been hoping for a while that these would show up in unsupported
rebuilt from the Cooker versions or something.
Anyone got some advice before I try building 8.0 versions of these from
the Cooker SRPMS?



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Re: [expert] mandrake 8 install on megaraid system?

2001-08-20 Thread Mathew Hennessy

Jerry wrote:

Works ok with my megaraid 3 channel. I'm not mirrored tho, straight raid
5. Detected w/ no problems during install.

Thanks.  My mirror (2 drives in a 1U) was detected during the 
installer boot, but when device detection occurred it returned with 
timeouts :/..  It's a single-channel IIRC, which is fine for 2 drives :)

I spose I'll wait for 8.1 then...  

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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

Thanks.  I know you guys are busy doing bug squashing for 8.1.

Vincent Danen wrote:
 
 On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 06:15:51AM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
 
  I've been hoping for a while that these would show up in unsupported
  rebuilt from the Cooker versions or something.
  Anyone got some advice before I try building 8.0 versions of these from
  the Cooker SRPMS?
 
 If you wait a bit (sorry, no ETA as we're having some difficulty with
 some components for 7.x) an update will be out for Apache which
 includes php 4.0.6 for 8.0 and 7.2.  Until then, feel free to download
 the PHP packages from www.rpmhelp.net (which are unofficial).
 
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Re: [expert] Why is the Reply-To header...??

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

Gets worse.  I get bounce messages from one of those servers.  Been
awhile since those got in the headers though so I can't remember which
one it was.

Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 Sorry if this has been covered before...  I'm still catching up on my mail and
 have not yet seen this discussed...
 
 Using NS4.78, if I hit Reply, I get:
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 and if I hit Reply All:
 
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 This certainly makes things a tad confusing...  any reason for setting:
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 in the headers...???
 
 Pierre
 
   
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Re: [expert] Get route conf

2001-08-20 Thread Pierre Fortin

 Eduardo P. Román O. wrote:
 
 Who know, how can i get the config of the router from my linux 

Haven't done this in a while since I don't use my Cisco any more...  

writing the config to a net device with tftp:

ln -s /tftpboot /home/tftpboot

/etc/xinetd.d/tftp:
service tftp
{
socket_type = dgram
wait= yes
user= nobody
log_on_success  += USERID
log_on_failure  += USERID
server  = /usr/sbin/in.tftpd
server_args = -s /home/tftpboot
disable = no
}

service tftp start

touch /home/tftpboot/name_of_config_file

on router:

write net (and follow prompts -- use same name_of_config_file)

I don't recall the details; but you may have to use one of:
  /name_of_config_file
  /tftpboot/name_of_config_file
  /home/tftpboot/name_of_config_file
to be able to write the config to the Linux box.

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Re: [expert] adding stuff to Mandrake's kernel

2001-08-20 Thread DM

AFAIK, the .config file that goes with the kernel
sources is the one that built the vmlinuz-2.4.3-20mdk
kernel. 

in fact, that is what i used to build 2.4.7 and the
kernel i build was much smaller because i disabled
some things i didnt need. the file
/boot/config-2.4.3-20mdk is the same as the on in
/usr/src/linux/.config file. the make command i use is
'make config' when i want to update 2.4.3 kernel and
'make oldconfig' when i used it for 2.4.7.

to make a compressed kernel you must use 'make
bzImage'. i dont have any vmlinux file on my system,
so i assume that is how you name your kernels. reading
the /usr/src/linux/README file fully will help a lot
in understanding how to compile the kernel. 

--- Al Niessner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 How do I get the configuration used to build the
 kernel that installed
 with the Mandrake 8.0 system and which make rule is
 the correct one?
 
 I installed the kernel-sources rpm from my 8.0
 distribution set. Then I
 added ACPI -- using 'make menuconfig -- because my
 new laptop uses that
 standard instead of APM and the APM support in the
 Mandrake kernel does
 not work with ACPI. The kernel I get in return is
 huge compared to
 /boot/vmlinux. So, how do I get the configuration
 used to generate the
 vmlinux that is installed? That kernel works well
 and I do not want to
 chase thousands of silly problems in kernel tweaking
 land in order to
 get ACPI added.
 
 Thinking that the .config supplied with
 kernel-sources was the one that
 make vmlinux-2.4.3-mdk20, I removed the RPM and then
 reinstalled and did
 a 'make dep vmlinux' and got a kernel that is 2.2 MB
 vs the 833 KB. To
 add insult to injury, it does not boot either.
 
 I then tried 'make bzImage' which gave me a 5.5 KB
 kernel that does not
 boot because it is missing a signature.
 
 That leaves me with the question. What configuration
 and make rule did
 the folks at Mandrake use in order to create
 vmlinux-2.4.3-mdk20?
 
 I would have thought that the Mandrake folks would
 have supplied the
 configuration with the sources or at the install
 time in
 '/usr/src/linux/.config-mdk20'. Oh well.
 
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Re: [expert] logrotate and syslog

2001-08-20 Thread Pierre Fortin

Jose Orlando T. Ribeiro wrote:
 
 Hi!
 
 I have a doubt...
 
 I'm using a LM7.2 machine to store log from some Cisco routers in my network. I
 observed that the logs weren't being rotated nor compressed. So I read the man
 pages and changed the /etc/logrotate.conf, so now the Cisco log files are
 rotated and compressed.
 
 The new problem: when the logs are rotated by logrotate the syslog service
 stops... or at least the part of syslog that should take care of my Cisco's
 logs. Then I have to manually start syslog using the service syslog restart
 command.
 
 Has anybody had the same problem? Knows how to solve???

Mine works fine...  Note that my rotate instructions are not in
/etc/logrotate.conf...

/etc/logrotate.d/syslog contains:

/home/logs/RouterLog {
rotate 5
weekly
postrotate
/usr/bin/killall -HUP syslogd
endscript

HTH,
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[expert] Why is the Reply-To header...??

2001-08-20 Thread Pierre Fortin

Sorry if this has been covered before...  I'm still catching up on my mail and
have not yet seen this discussed...

Using NS4.78, if I hit Reply, I get:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

and if I hit Reply All:

To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

This certainly makes things a tad confusing...  any reason for setting:
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
in the headers...???

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Re: [expert] nslookup is where?

2001-08-20 Thread civileme

On Monday 20 August 2001 08:44, Stephen Boulet wrote:
 Is there an nslookup command? Anyone know where to find it?

  -- Stephen

[root@civileme tester]# nslookup
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.


bind-utils-9.1.1-1mdk

Gey used to the new commands because 

rpm -q --whatprovides nslookup 

is already an empty vessel.

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[expert] nslookup is where?

2001-08-20 Thread Stephen Boulet

Is there an nslookup command? Anyone know where to find it?

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Re: [expert] nslookup is where?

2001-08-20 Thread M. Osten

On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Stephen Boulet wrote:

 Is there an nslookup command? Anyone know where to find it?
 
  -- Stephen
 
 
nslookup has been depreciated.  use the dig command now.  if you *really*
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Re: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied

2001-08-20 Thread DM

when i added rlogin, rexec and rsh on my
/etc/securetty file it looks like this:

snipped till the end 
tty10
tty11
rlogin
rexec
rsh

rsh stuff worked after i added those. 

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 19 Aug
 2001 10:55:02 -0600
 
 
  I believe that you will have to put this beside
  each of the tty enteries
 
 Checking the man page for sercuretty, it seems to
 indicate a single entry per
 line - one for each device. I'm no genius when it
 comes to understanding exactly
 how these terms work, but doesn't that seem to
 indicate a single space-delimted
 entry per line for each method (local term, rsh,
 etc)?
 
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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread Ron Johnson

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 Mailboxen with 8000+ messages  Delete those suckers, and
 use the mail archives at
  http://www.mail-archive.com/expert@linux-mandrake.com/

 I usually read the mail off-line, moreover finding some informations
 inside the HD is faster and less expensive than connecting to my
 dial-up provider and making a search in a on-line DB.

per-minute charges?

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[expert] KDE 2.2, printing of single, selected pages fails...

2001-08-20 Thread Juergen Hammelmann


Hello together,

printing of some selected pages in kdvi, kghostview etc. fails so all 
selected pages are printed in one sheet/paper!!!

Has anyone else seen this bug!!!

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Re: [expert] KDE 2.2, printing of single, selected pages fails...

2001-08-20 Thread Praedor Tempus

I have found it impossible to print from kghostview (don't know about kdvi).  
Kghostview renders pdfs fine but no matter how I try to print it, to a 
postscript file or to the printer or too a pdf, it fails every time.  The 
printer produces one blank page regardless of how many pages the actual pdf 
has.

I have been having to open the pdfs in either xpdf or acroread in order to 
print the pdf documents.

I am using kde 2.2 beta on my laptop and kde 2.2 final on my desktop - same 
result in both cases.

On Monday 20 August 2001 12:12 pm, Juergen Hammelmann wrote:
 Hello together,

 printing of some selected pages in kdvi, kghostview etc. fails so all
 selected pages are printed in one sheet/paper!!!

 Has anyone else seen this bug!!!

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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:

 Thanks.  I know you guys are busy doing bug squashing for 8.1.

Actually, I'm not squashing anything for 8.1... =)  I'm squashing
stuff for 8.0 and 7.x... =)

Sometimes that's a little more difficult than squashing the new stuff tho.

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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

Yes.  I still remember the PHP upgrade nightmare in Mandrake 7.2.

Vincent Danen wrote:
 
 On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 08:16:25AM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
 
  Thanks.  I know you guys are busy doing bug squashing for 8.1.
 
 Actually, I'm not squashing anything for 8.1... =)  I'm squashing
 stuff for 8.0 and 7.x... =)
 
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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 01:25:17PM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:

 Yes.  I still remember the PHP upgrade nightmare in Mandrake 7.2.

Hmmm... if you remember that one, you'll remember this one for quite a
while to come as well.

Of course, the upside is that future updates should be very easy to do
(unless something major changes again), just because of the way
Apache, mod_perl, PHP, et. all have become modularized by
Jean-Michel.  It's a better way to do things, but wreaks some havoc
initially on the older distribs.

Nothing major to worry about it, but don't expect too much from
MandrakeUpdate when it comes out (unfortunate, but no way around it).

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[expert] Problem with Bastille Firewall

2001-08-20 Thread Alan

This is an odd problem. The on-site docs seem to be less than useful. (Too 
much time spent with remedial firewall instruction and too little telling 
where the damn config scripts live.)

Note: This is at a friend's house that is about 45 miles away. Not easy to 
get to, so some details may be from memory.

there are two machines.  Both have ethernet cards. (Tulip driver.)  One has a 
modem.  The dial-out script works fine.  

Using the connection sharing setup to connect out.  (Probably my first 
mistake.)

I changed the Bastille firewall to view the second machine as trusted.

The second machine cannot route to the first UNTIL the gateway box initiates 
a connection to the second machine.

If I ping from the second machine to the gateway, I get no route to host 
messages.

If I ping from the gateway to the second machine, i get LONG pauses and 
absurdly slow ping times until things wake up and pings speed up.  

After this, routing works, but everything is slow with much dropped packets.

Here are my questions:

In the standard install of Mandrake 8.0 (power pack disc set), which firewall 
setup takes precidence and where is it configured?

Why am i unable to route to the gateway box and how do I fix it? (Route 
tables look fine.  This looks like a firewall issue.)

Why are pings being occasionally dropped?  (I have seen this once before with 
IPChains on another server. I did not have the time to investigate when it 
was noticed.)

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Re: [expert] Upgrading to KDE 2.2

2001-08-20 Thread Aleksey Y Naumov

Greetings,

Could you describe how you did the upgrade? I am having a few problems as
I attempt to do it.

Did you install over 2.1.1 or remove it before? I also downloaded RPMs
from ftp.kde.org - for Mandrake 8.0 i586 (should I download devel and
static-devel RPMs?), but I get failed dependencies as I try to install:

(I removed KDE 2.1.1 before trying to install 2.2, obviously from a 
command line)

# rpm -Uvh kdelibs-2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm 
error: failed dependencies:
libasound.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk
libpcreposix.so.0 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk
libpcre.so.0 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk

Any idea where I get these libs from? Also, what is the order of
installation - which RPMs go first?

Thank you,
Aleksey

On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Digital Wokan wrote:

 I've found everything for doing the upgrade to KDE 2.2 (had to d/l from
 ftp.kde.org).  The only problem is that while egcs-c++-1.1.2-44mdk
 provides libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3, the kdesupport rpm doesn't seem to
 accept this.  Does a package have to list a file in itself for it to be
 considered installed to other packages?  I always thought provides was
 for meta-provisions like webserver or something like that.
 Anyone wanting to install KDE 2.2 may want to --nodeps the install of
 kdesupport unless someone releases an updated egcs-c++ package with
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Re: [expert] Problem with Bastille Firewall

2001-08-20 Thread root

The configuration for it is in:
/etc/Bastille
There is a utility to set it up. I dont remember the name, look in /sbin I 
think it is there. There is also a graphic utility. As for turning it on or 
off, there is a script in /etc/rc.d/init.d just for that.

I suggest you try turning it off, try to see if you can have connectivity 
between the 2 machines and turn it back on. If you can not ping with the 
firewall being inactive then you have a hardware problem.

Try: ifconfig -a
to see your network cards

check up iptables man page for more understanding of how the firewall is 
implemented.

Gerard Perreault
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


On Monday 20 August 2001 16:18, Alan wrote:
 This is an odd problem. The on-site docs seem to be less than useful. (Too
 much time spent with remedial firewall instruction and too little telling
 where the damn config scripts live.)

 Note: This is at a friend's house that is about 45 miles away. Not easy to
 get to, so some details may be from memory.

 there are two machines.  Both have ethernet cards. (Tulip driver.)  One has
 a modem.  The dial-out script works fine.

 Using the connection sharing setup to connect out.  (Probably my first
 mistake.)

 I changed the Bastille firewall to view the second machine as trusted.

 The second machine cannot route to the first UNTIL the gateway box
 initiates a connection to the second machine.

 If I ping from the second machine to the gateway, I get no route to host
 messages.

 If I ping from the gateway to the second machine, i get LONG pauses and
 absurdly slow ping times until things wake up and pings speed up.

 After this, routing works, but everything is slow with much dropped
 packets.

 Here are my questions:

 In the standard install of Mandrake 8.0 (power pack disc set), which
 firewall setup takes precidence and where is it configured?

 Why am i unable to route to the gateway box and how do I fix it? (Route
 tables look fine.  This looks like a firewall issue.)

 Why are pings being occasionally dropped?  (I have seen this once before
 with IPChains on another server. I did not have the time to investigate
 when it was noticed.)

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[expert] floppy file system?

2001-08-20 Thread Nick

I know that this is not really on our topic, but I am about to start banging 
my head on the table  Is there a way to format a floppy with ext2 or 
something that Linux will recognize and still preserve the long file names?  
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Re: [expert] Problem with Bastille Firewall

2001-08-20 Thread Gerard Perreault

Its name is:
bastille-firewall

Technically, this is what is in it:
#!/bin/sh
#
# bastille-firewall Load/unload ipchains rulesets
#
# do not rename this file unless you edit /sbin/bastille-firewall-reset
#
# chkconfig: 2345 5 98
# description: A firewall/packet-filter script for Linux systems \
# that allows the machine to be used as a gateway system
#
# version 0.99-beta1
# Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Peter Watkins
#
#This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
#but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
#MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
#GNU General Public License for more details.
#
#You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
#along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
#Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place, Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307  USA
#
# Thanks to David Ranch, Brad A, Don G, and others for their suggestions
#
# This script is designed to be used as a SysV-style init script.
#
# It should be run with a start argument
#   1) as an rc?.d S script, _before_ the network script
# [copy this to /etc/rc.d/init.d/bastille-firewall (or your equivalent of
#  /etc/rc.d/init.d) and run 'chkconfig -add bastille-firewall' ]
#   2) any time an interface is brought up or changed, e.g.
#  establishing a PPP conection or renewing a DHCP lease
# [copy 'bastille-firewall-reset', 'bastille-firewall-schedule'
#  and 'ifup-local' to /sbin/]
#
#   Normally you Do Not _Ever_ Want to run this with a stop argument!
#
# Note that running this with stop will disable the firewall and open
# your system to all network traffic; if you make changes to these rules,
# apply them by running the script again with a start argument.
#
# ** As of 0.99-beta1, this script merely kicks off the real script,
#either /sbin/bastille-ipchains or /sbin/bastille-netfilter
# Default is to use the 'ipchains' script, which will load the
# ipchains compatibility module if you're using a 2.4 kernel
REALSCRIPT=/sbin/bastille-ipchains
PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
 
if [ -n $(uname -r | awk -F. ' $1 == 2  $2  2 {print}') ]; then
# We are using Linux 2.3 or newer; use the netfilter script if 
availab!
if [ -x /sbin/bastille-netfilter ]; then
REALSCRIPT=/sbin/bastille-netfilter
fi
fi
 
if [ ! -x ${REALSCRIPT} ]; then
echo ERROR: \${REALSCRIPT}\ not available!
exit 1
fi
 
${REALSCRIPT} $1


Maybe it got created by the initialization script, I dont remember.

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On Monday 20 August 2001 18:01, Sheldon E. Newhouse wrote:
 On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, root wrote:
  The configuration for it is in:
  /etc/Bastille
  There is a utility to set it up. I dont remember the name, look in /sbin
  I think it is there. There is also a graphic utility. As for turning it
  on or off, there is a script in /etc/rc.d/init.d just for that.

 What is the name of this script?  I don't see one in /etc/rc.d/init.d

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[expert] Re: floppy file system

2001-08-20 Thread Nick

Thank you!  The only trouble is that if I use a DOS formatted floppy it dumps 
my long fine names.  When I try to put them back as they should be they don't 
function properly for some reason.
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Re: [expert] Problem with Bastille Firewall

2001-08-20 Thread joy_ping

hi,

i would say get off of this bastile-crap and use pure iptables-scripts.
dont know if bastille uses iptables, but you learn more, and it is really
no magic to set up your firewall by hand. it is easy to configure, you
can set special rules for special ports, and you know what you do, and
some more. 

basics for setting up a firewall:

http://www.interhack.net/pubs/fwfaq/

sources and patches for iptables you can found here:

http://netfilter.samba.org/

docs and howtos you can obtain here:

http://netfilter.gnumonks.org/unreliable-guides/
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel/security/iptables_basics.html

the cause for dropped pings could not so easily defined i think. there
could be physical problems like cable, connector or bad configured
network, look for collisions at your network device(s).

g.

z.


On Mon, 20 Aug 2001, Alan wrote:

 This is an odd problem. The on-site docs seem to be less than useful. (Too 
 much time spent with remedial firewall instruction and too little telling 
 where the damn config scripts live.)
 
 Note: This is at a friend's house that is about 45 miles away. Not easy to 
 get to, so some details may be from memory.
 
 there are two machines.  Both have ethernet cards. (Tulip driver.)  One has a 
 modem.  The dial-out script works fine.  
 
 Using the connection sharing setup to connect out.  (Probably my first 
 mistake.)
 
 I changed the Bastille firewall to view the second machine as trusted.
 
 The second machine cannot route to the first UNTIL the gateway box initiates 
 a connection to the second machine.
 
 If I ping from the second machine to the gateway, I get no route to host 
 messages.
 
 If I ping from the gateway to the second machine, i get LONG pauses and 
 absurdly slow ping times until things wake up and pings speed up.  
 
 After this, routing works, but everything is slow with much dropped packets.
 
 Here are my questions:
 
 In the standard install of Mandrake 8.0 (power pack disc set), which firewall 
 setup takes precidence and where is it configured?
 
 Why am i unable to route to the gateway box and how do I fix it? (Route 
 tables look fine.  This looks like a firewall issue.)
 
 Why are pings being occasionally dropped?  (I have seen this once before with 
 IPChains on another server. I did not have the time to investigate when it 
 was noticed.)
 
 Ideas? Suggestions? Remedies?
 
 
 




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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Digital Wokan

I don't use Mandrake Update.  I haven't tried it recently, but I
remember having difficulty figuring out what packages were updated at a
glace.  I usually rpm -Fvh * and take care of problems as they pop up,
or I use kpackage (which for some reason now throws an error before
installing each package).

Vincent Danen wrote:
 
 On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 01:25:17PM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:
 
  Yes.  I still remember the PHP upgrade nightmare in Mandrake 7.2.
 
 Hmmm... if you remember that one, you'll remember this one for quite a
 while to come as well.
 
 Of course, the upside is that future updates should be very easy to do
 (unless something major changes again), just because of the way
 Apache, mod_perl, PHP, et. all have become modularized by
 Jean-Michel.  It's a better way to do things, but wreaks some havoc
 initially on the older distribs.
 
 Nothing major to worry about it, but don't expect too much from
 MandrakeUpdate when it comes out (unfortunate, but no way around it).
 
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[expert] Re: X Failure on New Mandrake 8 Install

2001-08-20 Thread Felix Miata

  tty7 screen is blank with blinking cursor in upper left corner. Other
  tty's produce expected login prompts that work as expected except for a
  welcome surprise: video mode instead of the customary 80 X 25 is the
  proprietary Tseng 100 X 40 mode. Awesome!

  A portion of the last third of /var/log/XFree86.0.log follows:

  * * *
  (II) Module vgahw: vendor=The XFree86 Project
  compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0
  ABI class: XFree86 Video Driver, version 0.3
  (--) TSENG(0): Chipset: ET6100
  (--) TSENG(0): PCI I/O registers at 0x6800
  (--) TSENG(0): Ramdac: et6000
  (--) TSENG(0): Clockchip: et6000
  (**) TSENG(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 24
  (==) TSENG(0): RGB weight 888
  (==) TSENG(0): Default visual is TrueColor
  (==) TSENG(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0)
  (==) TSENG(0): Using SW cursor
  (==) TSENG(0): Using linear Memory.
  (--) TSENG(0): Linear framebuffer at 0xE000
  (II) TSENG(0): Video memory type: Multibank DRAM (MDRAM).
  (WW) System lacks support for changing MTRRs
  (--) TSENG(0): VideoRAM: 0 kByte.
 
 sounds like very little memory to me :-)
 Perhaps the warning just above that is important? (I'm no guru)
 Try compiling MTRR support into your kernel.

I finally found the kernel config files for both my 7.1 and 8.0 Mandrake
partitions. Both files have CONFIG_MTRR=y, so MTRR support should be in
the kernel already.

 You could also post this question in col.x

Now it looks like it could be a framebuffer problem. Obviously the video
card has more than zero memory. The config file for 7.1 has no
framebuffer section, while that for 8.0 does, and in that section there
is no line referencing my video card chip, while there are for many
others. That section does have CONFIG_FB_VESA=y, and it also has
CONFIG_FB_VGA16=m, among many others.

The BIOS of this PC is configured to allow QEMM in a DOS boot to
maximize upper DOS memory. Specifically, this setting (Award BIOS) is
called Used MEM base addr=C800 and Used MEM Length=32K. Anyone know
if this could impact framebuffer or VideoRAM: 0 kByte? Well, I turned
it off and tried startx again. The reaction has changed. The hatchmatte
or whatever it's called that comes up before KDE is now showing up
before the computer locks up, and the /var/log/XFree86.0.log now shows:

VideoRAM: 4096 kByte
Depth 8, (--) framebuffer bpp8
Loading sub module fb
Loading module fb

But also:
Open APM failed
System lacks support for MTRRs
Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo, removing
from list!
among other (WW)'s.

When I run 'XFree86 -configure' and follow that up with 'XFree86
-xf86config /root/XF86Config.new', X starts the same matte screen as
'startx', but it doesn't lock up the machine. I can even exit with
Ctrl-Alt-BS.

After reading in the XWindow-User-HOWTO, I tried from root 'kdm' This
got me a little further. After the gray matte backgroud pops up on tty7,
the screen color changes to Aurora's blue-gray, and then the shapes of
the login chooser paint, and some of its contents. The go, clear,
restart  shutdown buttons look complete, but unless I click on one of
the penquins, no other words appear, and except for the box with the
Mandrake star and the penguins, no colors appear except black  white.
If I click on shutdown, a new totally black window appears. If I switch
back to the session that started kdm, I can kill it.

If I try 'startx', the KDE splash screen comes up. Its first icon blinks
a few times, then the PC is locked up, hard reset required.

So, something remains undone. What is it?
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# File generated by XFdrake.

# **
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **

Section Files

# The location of the RGB database.  Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like .txt or .db).  There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (which are concatenated together),
# as well as specifying multiple comma-separated entries in one FontPath
# command (or a combination of both methods)

#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/
#FontPath   /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/
FontPath/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/

# ModulePath can be used to set a search 

[expert] Upgrading to 8.1...

2001-08-20 Thread Neal Lippman

I am currently running 7.2 with 2.4.4 kernel. I passed on upgrading to 8.0 
because I am (mostly) happy with my current system, and didn't want to risk 
breaking things. However, 8.1 seems to include many things I have been 
waiting for (KOffice 1.1 - maybe KWord won't crash every time I close it; KDE 
2.2; Evolution) so the upgrade is probably worthwhile.

Here's the question: what are people's experiences with upgrading, rather 
than a fresh install? I don't want to have to go through the hassle of 
reconfiguring everything in /etc and all my KDE menus which would presumably 
result from a clean install, but I could do the clean install if the 
upgrading process breaks too many things. 

I am going to wait until 8.1 is officially released rather than the beta; I 
use this system too much to risk working with a beta on my primary computer.

Any help / thoughts / advice?

(BTW - I did consider just installing kde 2.2 and not upgrading the whole os, 
but there are just too many darn dependences on the rpms. That really is one 
place (maybe the only one) where I did like Windows - generally, products 
depended on windows-standard dll's came with everything else needed. There is 
a lot more work to upgrade anything under Linux. With choice comes 
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Re: [expert] Upgrading to KDE 2.2

2001-08-20 Thread Gary A. Garibaldi

After downloading all files for the upgrade I did a rpm -qa | grep kde.  I 
then move all the listed files into a separate directory.  From that 
directory I did rpm -Fvh --test *.  I then corrected any dependency problems 
by adding or removing some programs.  Once I got a clean return on rpm -Fvh 
--test *, I then ran urpmi --auto-select *.  I then went back and added a few 
of the downloads that were not listed with the rpm -qa | grep kde.  If I 
recall right they were kdeartwork and kdebindings. This was last friday and 
other than a few minor problems with several screensavers, everything seems 
to be working great.

Thanks

Gary
On Monday 20 August 2001 14:36 pm, you wrote:
 Greetings,

 Could you describe how you did the upgrade? I am having a few problems as
 I attempt to do it.

 Did you install over 2.1.1 or remove it before? I also downloaded RPMs
 from ftp.kde.org - for Mandrake 8.0 i586 (should I download devel and
 static-devel RPMs?), but I get failed dependencies as I try to install:

 (I removed KDE 2.1.1 before trying to install 2.2, obviously from a
 command line)

 # rpm -Uvh kdelibs-2.2-1mdk.i586.rpm
 error: failed dependencies:
   libasound.so.1 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk
   libpcreposix.so.0 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk
   libpcre.so.0 is needed by kdelibs-2.2-1mdk

 Any idea where I get these libs from? Also, what is the order of
 installation - which RPMs go first?

 Thank you,
 Aleksey

 On Thu, 16 Aug 2001, Digital Wokan wrote:
  I've found everything for doing the upgrade to KDE 2.2 (had to d/l from
  ftp.kde.org).  The only problem is that while egcs-c++-1.1.2-44mdk
  provides libstdc++-libc6.1-2.so.3, the kdesupport rpm doesn't seem to
  accept this.  Does a package have to list a file in itself for it to be
  considered installed to other packages?  I always thought provides was
  for meta-provisions like webserver or something like that.
  Anyone wanting to install KDE 2.2 may want to --nodeps the install of
  kdesupport unless someone releases an updated egcs-c++ package with
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[expert] 8.0freq3 windowmanager problems

2001-08-20 Thread Angus Beath

I'm not sure if this is the case with 8.1beta as well, but I upgraded
from 8.0 freq 2 to freq3 and couldn't get any of my windowmanagers, bar
KDE to work. I use enlightenment and it screwed up royally. I've had to
re-install from scratch. This isn't a big problem, I'm just curious if
anyone else has had this problem. Whenever I tried to start
enlightenment, for example, X restarted most of the time, the rest of
the time it just dumped me out to a command prompt. Very strange... Any
comments welcome...
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[expert] IBM Netfinity 5100 with ServRAID controller

2001-08-20 Thread Brent Lea

I am trying to install Mandrake 8.0 on an IBM Netfinity 5100 with a
ServRAID 4L controller.  There are six 36GB drive attached to the 4L
in a RAID 5 configuration.  The system, controller, and drives are all
at the lates level of their BIOS.

Problem #1   When I start the install process, Mandrake recognizes the
on-board Adaptec SCSI controller, but not the ServRAID controller.  If
I pick it from the list, everything appears to be fine.

Problem #2 After I have configured my partitions on that big
logical drive, Mandrake attempts to format the partitions.  It will
format my swap (512MB) and / (3GB) partitions, but when it tries to
format /home (166GB) it eventually bombs out.  The activity on the
drives will stop and about five minutes later, I get the following
message:

An error occurred
mkdir: error creating directory /mnt/home: input/output error

When I click the OK button, I get the following error:

An error occurred
An error has occurred - no valid devices were found on which to create
new filesystems.  Please check your hardware for the cause of this
problem.

I have tried this same install on an IBM Netfinity 5500 with the same
internal setup with similar results.  I am wondering if there is a
problem with IBM's ServRAID controller and MDK 8.0?  I noticed on
Mandrake's hardware site, the ServRAID controller is listed as having
been tested by users, but not certified by Mandrake.

By the way, RedHat 7.1 works fine.  I would much prefer Mandrake,
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Re: [expert] Any signs of a PHP-4.0.6 for Mdk8?

2001-08-20 Thread Vincent Danen

On Mon Aug 20, 2001 at 06:19:50PM -0400, Digital Wokan wrote:

 I don't use Mandrake Update.  I haven't tried it recently, but I
 remember having difficulty figuring out what packages were updated at a
 glace.  I usually rpm -Fvh * and take care of problems as they pop up,
 or I use kpackage (which for some reason now throws an error before
 installing each package).

This won't work as a number of new packages are introduced.
Basically, we're backporting the apache in 8.0/cooker to 7.x... this
introduces new packages like apache-conf which is required.  So a
simple -Fvh will cause dependency issues.  Your best bet, when they
come out, is to do a -Uvh and only download the
apache/php/mod_perl/mod_ssl packages you want to install (or the whole
whackload) and run -Uvh on them.

It's unfortunate, and that's why MandrakeUpdate won't work with it but
there was no easy/reliable/whatever way to do it other than to re-work
the packages entirely (which would be a waste because if we have to do
it again, it means more work for the backport again).

Might be a little painful at first, but there is a method to the
madness... =)

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Re: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied

2001-08-20 Thread Larry Sword

John J. LeMay Jr. wrote:
 
 ** Reply to message from Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 19
 Aug 2001 16:42:03 -0500
 
  Have you tried adding the name and IP to /etc/hosts?  For that matter, have
  you tried running your ssh connect command in verbose mode?  If so, run it
  again, and post the output here.
 
 The hosts file is already setup correctly, and here's the output (pausing for a
 long time - this took a bit more than a minute this time):
 
 [root@cyclops] # ssh -v -v -v logan
 OpenSSH_2.9p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090581f
 debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
 debug1: Applying options for *
 debug1: Seeding random number generator
 debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
 debug1: restore_uid
 debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 1 -- Note LONG pause after
 this line is displayed


I notice that you are not getting the uid for the user:
I think it's normally, as least it is on my system, 
debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 501 geteuid 0 anon 1
It appears you do not have or send a uid???


 debug1: Connecting to logan [192.168.2.10] port 22.
 debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 0/0 (e=0)
 debug1: restore_uid
 debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 0/0 (e=0)
 debug1: restore_uid
 debug1: Connection established.
 debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
 debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1
 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
 debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
 debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.9p1
 debug1: match: OpenSSH_2.9p1 pat ^OpenSSH
 debug1: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.9p1
 debug1: Waiting for server public key.
 debug1: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
 debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
 debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
 debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
 debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 3
 Warning: Permanently added 'logan' (RSA1) to the list of known hosts.
 debug1: Encryption type: blowfish
 debug1: Sent encrypted session key.
 debug1: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
 debug1: Received encrypted confirmation.
 debug1: Doing password authentication.
 root@logan's password:
 
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Re: [expert] rsh - Permission Denied

2001-08-20 Thread Larry Sword

Larry Sword wrote:

Scratch the previous message. Appears that I didn't read fully or
correctly, I see you are running and connecting as root.

Larry
 
 John J. LeMay Jr. wrote:
 
  ** Reply to message from Michael D. Viron [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Sun, 19
  Aug 2001 16:42:03 -0500
 
   Have you tried adding the name and IP to /etc/hosts?  For that matter, have
   you tried running your ssh connect command in verbose mode?  If so, run it
   again, and post the output here.
 
  The hosts file is already setup correctly, and here's the output (pausing for a
  long time - this took a bit more than a minute this time):
 
  [root@cyclops] # ssh -v -v -v logan
  OpenSSH_2.9p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090581f
  debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config
  debug1: Applying options for *
  debug1: Seeding random number generator
  debug1: Rhosts Authentication disabled, originating port will not be trusted.
  debug1: restore_uid
  debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 0 geteuid 0 anon 1 -- Note LONG pause after
  this line is displayed
 
 
 I notice that you are not getting the uid for the user:
 I think it's normally, as least it is on my system,
 debug1: ssh_connect: getuid 501 geteuid 0 anon 1
 It appears you do not have or send a uid???
 
 
  debug1: Connecting to logan [192.168.2.10] port 22.
  debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 0/0 (e=0)
  debug1: restore_uid
  debug1: temporarily_use_uid: 0/0 (e=0)
  debug1: restore_uid
  debug1: Connection established.
  debug1: read PEM private key done: type DSA
  debug1: read PEM private key done: type RSA
  debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/identity type -1
  debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_rsa type -1
  debug1: identity file /root/.ssh/id_dsa type -1
  debug1: Remote protocol version 1.99, remote software version OpenSSH_2.9p1
  debug1: match: OpenSSH_2.9p1 pat ^OpenSSH
  debug1: Local version string SSH-1.5-OpenSSH_2.9p1
  debug1: Waiting for server public key.
  debug1: Received server public key (768 bits) and host key (1024 bits).
  debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
  debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts
  debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: filename /root/.ssh/known_hosts
  debug3: check_host_in_hostfile: match line 3
  Warning: Permanently added 'logan' (RSA1) to the list of known hosts.
  debug1: Encryption type: blowfish
  debug1: Sent encrypted session key.
  debug1: Installing crc compensation attack detector.
  debug1: Received encrypted confirmation.
  debug1: Doing password authentication.
  root@logan's password:
 
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Re: [expert] Speed of various mail programs

2001-08-20 Thread David E. Fox

 I will try EVERYTHING: my decision must be wise. Anyway, I think pine uses 
 the same MBOX format of every other UNIX mail manager, isn't it?

I've found myself going back to elm after trying the other GUI mailers
like kmail etc. The GUIs are nice, but painfully slow on an underpowered
box (kmail is at least now usable on my athlon; on my P-100 it was very
slow). Once you're used to elm it's very easy to use, and extremely
fast. 

 Olaf

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Re: [expert] Upgrading WINE

2001-08-20 Thread David E. Fox

 I have Codeweavers-wine installed on my MDK8.0 and I want to upgrade it 
 because a new WINE version has been released. Can I download WINE (that 

I just did a wine upgrade from winehq.com. Codeweavers seems to just be
another variant of the stuff that comes from winehq. I opted for the
unstripped .bz2 snapshot, about 4 megs or so in size, and installation
is fairly straightforward. But there are several versions of builds, 
stable and not as stable, stuff built from the latest CVS, or of course
there is the option of building it yourself - and it's not all that 
complicated to do that.

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[expert] Building RPMS as regular user

2001-08-20 Thread cb

I did this many moons ago, but can't remember exactly what I'd done to
set it up.

I simply had a regular user account that had its own SPECS, BUILD, RPMS,
SOURCES, and SRPMS directories in it where I could build RPMS without
being root.  I'm pretty sure I copies over the default rpmrc to
~/.rpmrc, but I can't remember what else you have to do to get this to
work.  

If anyone's got any ideas, I'd love to hear them.

Cheers,

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Re: [expert] pppd deamon died halfway through!!!

2001-08-20 Thread faisal gillani

thanks for the help friend ..

but sorry to dissapoint you but my pc dont have a ppp0
interface ... yes the modem is there but no ppp0
interface ... my moden is isapnp US robotics 56k
sportster ...
what to do now 

thanks
Fasial 
--- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Ok, all this info is readable in man pppd and it
 can be yor friend
 have you tried the command ifup ppp0? what errors
 does it return?
 As I understand it, the noauth means that it does
 not require a secret to 
 be transmitted back from the server to verify the
 server is the one you want. 
 it does _not_ mean it does not want you to authorize
 your self to the server, 
 just that the server does not offer up a password in
 return. authorization in 
 both directions is a defualt in most unix network
 systems using IP. 
 the demand function allows the ifup comand
 automagically when a requst to 
 ppp0 is made, and will allow dialup automagiclly
 when a browser or mailcheck 
 is started, even from some computer attached to the
 network and using your 
 connection (Internet connection sharing) as the
 default route.
 the idle=xxx command is to hang up after a period of
 inactivity over the ip 
 interface (ppp0) when noone is using the connection.
 xxx equals seconds so a 
 statement of idle=600 would hang up the modem after
 10 minutes.
 let me know the results of ifup ppp0 (InterFaceUP).
 to hang up an ifup ppp0 
 use ifdown ppp0 (and the 0 is the number zero, not
 a Cap O)
  
 On Sunday 19 August 2001 04:20, faisal gillani
 wrote:
  thanks for the reply friend...
 
well no not that desperate to use wvdial... but
 i am
  a beginner @ pppd  not found of writing scripts
 ..so
  wana use it .cause it is very straight foward ..
  but if you can help me connecting to my isp from
  command prompt then ill be happy to give it up .
  do you have any idea what does noauth means ? 
 what
  impact does it have on pppd deamon config files
 
  thanks
  very much
  Faisal
 
  --- etharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   have you tried just an ifup ppp0?  for a
 command
   prompt dialing, with a
   demand and idle=xxx statement in the same file
 you
   added noauth to, you
   should have an auto dial in whenneeded and hang
 up
   when idle for xxx (in
   seconds. I don't mean to sound so dumb, but if
 you
   don't mind me asking, what
   is so important in using wvdial?
  
  
   On Saturday 18 August 2001 14:37,
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   wrote:
Well this problem of mine when i connect to
 my
  
   isp it says Athentication
  
failed  then pppd deamon died ...is half way
  
   through a friend of mine
  
instructed me to put noauth in the customize
  
   pppd arguments in the
  
connection properties of Kppp ...
now i am connection to my isp sucessfully...
 but
  
   the problem is that i want
  
to use wvdial from the command prompt dont
 want to
  
   use kppp  X window ...
  
how can i correct my wvdial problem now that i
  
   know that kppp is dailing
  
with noauth  help me out please its urgent
 ...
   
   
thanks
Faisal
   
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[expert] Building a custom install floppy...

2001-08-20 Thread Julia A. Case

Basically I'm trying to use a USB CD to install linux on a USB harddrive
(don't ask, it's a laptop...)  To this end I built a custom kernel with
the stuff needed...  The trouble is when I make the boot floppy with the
blank.img and copy over vmlinuz and try to boot it just hangs after the
message that it has decompressed the kernel is ready to run it...  I've
tried it with a bunch of different kernels, even the one that I use to
boot my production server (so I know that one is valid)...  Has anyoe
used the blank.img to create a custom boot disk?  And no I can't just
use the network.img since the ethernet card is a pcmcia card...

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[expert] Quotas on big harddisk

2001-08-20 Thread Linke, Thomas

Hi,

I try to set quotas on big harddisks, but I recive a errormessage, if I 
go over 4GB. ( cannot change current allocation ). This happend on 
different maschines with LM 7.2 and ext2 filesystem.
Is there a limit?
How can I limit diskusage about 20GB on ext2 or another filesystem like 
reiserfs ?

Thomas




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