Re: [expert] Cannot guess host type error - solved

2002-08-25 Thread Phil

On Sat, 24 Aug 2002 22:27, you wrote:
 Hello all,

 After a fresh install of MDK 8.2 I'm now getting can not guess host type
 errors when I run configure. I had this error a couple of years ago and I
 cannot remember how I corrected it.


Host type is a configure option.

 Another error is , cannot create executables, and is probably related. I
 have libstdc++-devel installed.


I had two versions of gcc installed, 2.96 and 3.0. I deleted 2.96.

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: Re: [expert] Still problomes...SSH or X [Rewrite]

2002-08-25 Thread Stefan Sten

Thanks for the help Vox,

I got it working right now, unfortunately running the insecure variant,
xhost + ip.of.remotehost did the trick. But I will take a look at the page
about OpenSSH later this night.

 ---Ursprungligt meddelande---
 Från Vox [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Datum 25/08/2002 01:10:52

 Stefan Sten writes:

  Sorry, I mixed the error messages I got before.
 
  This is how it is:



 Ok, here the problem is that you are *not* doing Xforwarding through
 ssh, but trying to do remote-X-display, which runs on a wholly
 different protocol and port. The secure way to do it is with
 Xforwarding through ssh...if you want to do it the secure way, go to
 http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/openssh.php and start reading
 :)

 The other way is using X's protocol, which you do as this:

 Open a terminal on your workstation. As the user that is running X,
 do xhost + and then do your ssh
 connection. In this option, you need the DISPLAY thing set as you
 had it so far. Run your program and it *should* display on your
 workstation.

 Vox

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Re: [expert] Fax gui frontend

2002-08-25 Thread dfox

 Is there any such beast as a graphical frontend to the hylafax package? It 
 would need to deal with received faxes too, not just sending faxes (be nice 
 to preview what the fax program is planning to send).

ksendfax (part of kde) might be a possibility, but I don't know if it
would tailor itself to hylafax, although in a awy I don't see why
it wouldn't. sendfax (or 'fax send') itself is a 'front end', and
in reality, hylafax is more like sendmail, a transport agent, than
an app that sends faxes (applies to mgetty+sendfax too). 

I ran hylafax for a little while, but now I don't have a modem (just
DSL) and therefore can't send faxes :(. I did experiment with methods
of sending faxes in Star Office, but that didn't work all that well -
multiple page faxes were a problem. Still, sending a fax is 1% (or
less) actually transmission, and the rest is editing/previewing, 
which can be done in any editor, somewhat like printing is. And 
receiving - the fax subsystem (hylafax) should do all that auto-
matically, all the user needs to do is see what was faxed and/or
print it - and there are several tiff / g3 type viewers available.

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RE: [expert] Spam protection

2002-08-25 Thread David Stevenson

OK guys, I played it safe.

I spent more time on trying to discover why Postfix was not working, at 5 AM
on Saturday morning I noticed that my AV scanner was dumping scanned mail
into sendmail. What I thought it was doing was dumping it via smtp on a
backdoor port to postfix. Although I had entered the data in /etc/services,
I failed to tell the AV scanner where to send it, and also failed to enter
the /etc/postfix/master.cf entry for the backdoor service name. I had just
commented out the smtp line.

As I run in a protected network, the backdoor was a safe option.

The end result is that I can now reject mail that I now is dodgy and use the
RBL.

Thanks for all your comments.
David.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tim C
Sent: 24 August 2002 03:58
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] Spam protection


On August 23, 2002 16:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I have to disagree.  I've been using SpamAssassin for a while now, and the
 number of false positives have made me turn it off.  (And I've go the
level
 set at 10)

Hmmm. That's odd. My experience has been completely opposite. I had a
couple of False Positives in the first week I started using it , but they
were all from HTML newsletters that I subscribe to. I simply whitelisted all
of the newsletters and I haven't had a FP since.( I use the default level 5)
--
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[expert] Postfix SpamAssassin

2002-08-25 Thread David Relson

Greetings,

I'm struggling to get SpamAssassin working properly with Postfix.  I think 
I'm close, but things aren't working quite right.

I've read the helpful documents at 
http://advosys.ca/papers/postfix-filtering.html, 
http://advosys.ca/papers/filter.sh.txt, and 
http://hints.linuxfromscratch.org/hints/postfix+spamassassin+razor.txt and 
made the changes that seem needed.

I have defined a new user and a new group 'filter' for the use of 
SpamAssassin, have changed /etc/postfix/master.cf, created a filtering 
script in /usr/local/bin for running spamassassin, and created spool 
directory /var/spool/filter for use by the filtering script.

I'm using the sample-spam.txt and sample-nonspam.txt messages that come 
with spamassassin-2.20 for my testing.

When run from postfix, both sample messages are classified as non-spam.  If 
I simply run spamassassin sample-spam.txt or spamassassin 
sample-nonspam.txt, the results are correct.

Any thoughts on what I've (probably) missed?  If desired, I can post the 
X-Spam-Status and X-Spam-Level messages generated, as well as the system 
changes I made.

TIA.

David

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[expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?

2002-08-25 Thread Lonnie Cumberland



Hello All,

I have been looking at various distributions on the 
net but have always liked Mandrake and have used it in the past with great 
success.

What I need now is a small minimalist distribution 
of Mandrake that would have the latest supported kernel 2.4.x and latest Xfree 
4.x windowing system. My project will be connecting to the internet as well via 
NFS and Samba along with not needing things like KDE nor GNOME and will be 
installing my own window manager.

The trick to this is that although I will have 
either an ext2 or ext3 filesystem, I need the whole distribution to be initially 
small, something like under about 5 - 10 Meg if possible. I will be adding other 
packages as they are needed.

I have come across a few other distributions on the 
Internet that claim to be able to offer a kernel and xwindows on only 2 floppy 
disks but would prefer to work with Mandrake if possible.

does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this 
task accomplished easily with Mandrake?

Any help would be GREATLY appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Lonnie



Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?

2002-08-25 Thread Chuck Shirley

On Sunday 25 August 2002 17:04, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
What I need now is a small minimalist distribution of Mandrake that 
would have the latest supported kernel 2.4.x and latest Xfree 4.x 
windowing system. My project will be connecting to the internet as 
well via NFS and Samba along with not needing things like KDE nor 
GNOME and will be installing my own window manager.

The trick to this is that although I will have either an ext2 or 
ext3 filesystem, I need the whole distribution to be initially 
small, something like under about 5 - 10 Meg if possible. I will 
be adding other packages as they are needed.

I have come across a few other distributions on the Internet that 
claim to be able to offer a kernel and xwindows on only 2 floppy
disks but would prefer to work with Mandrake if possible.

does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this task accomplished
easily with Mandrake?

I don't think that a stock Mandrake is up to this small of an
installation.  If you select expert mode during the install,
then select none of the package groups, you will be asked if
you are trying to install a barren system, and if you tell the
installer to use the minimal package set, it still comes out
right near 100 MB.  (I think it was 101, or there about...)
This minimal installation footprint does not include any
XFree86 packages, and doesn't even include urpmi and friends!
If memory serves, none of the network servers (NFS, SMB, etc)
are inclused in the minimal footprint, either, so they would
have to be added in during individual package selection (next).
The installation proceeds to the individual package selection,
where one can (de-)select additional packages, but I don't know
if trimming things down to 10 MB is feasible with Mandrake.

Best regards!
-Chuck
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Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?

2002-08-25 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Thanks for the response Chuck.

I guess that I'll just have to keep investigating the problem a little more.

Thanks again,
Lonnie

- Original Message -
From: Chuck Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?


 On Sunday 25 August 2002 17:04, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 What I need now is a small minimalist distribution of Mandrake that
 would have the latest supported kernel 2.4.x and latest Xfree 4.x
 windowing system. My project will be connecting to the internet as
 well via NFS and Samba along with not needing things like KDE nor
 GNOME and will be installing my own window manager.
 
 The trick to this is that although I will have either an ext2 or
 ext3 filesystem, I need the whole distribution to be initially
 small, something like under about 5 - 10 Meg if possible. I will
 be adding other packages as they are needed.
 
 I have come across a few other distributions on the Internet that
 claim to be able to offer a kernel and xwindows on only 2 floppy
 disks but would prefer to work with Mandrake if possible.
 
 does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this task accomplished
 easily with Mandrake?

 I don't think that a stock Mandrake is up to this small of an
 installation.  If you select expert mode during the install,
 then select none of the package groups, you will be asked if
 you are trying to install a barren system, and if you tell the
 installer to use the minimal package set, it still comes out
 right near 100 MB.  (I think it was 101, or there about...)
 This minimal installation footprint does not include any
 XFree86 packages, and doesn't even include urpmi and friends!
 If memory serves, none of the network servers (NFS, SMB, etc)
 are inclused in the minimal footprint, either, so they would
 have to be added in during individual package selection (next).
 The installation proceeds to the individual package selection,
 where one can (de-)select additional packages, but I don't know
 if trimming things down to 10 MB is feasible with Mandrake.

 Best regards!
 -Chuck
 --
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[expert]

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

Report from the field (so to speak) 


I just downloaded and installed 9.0 beta 4. the box seems to be
sitting here like a rock... 5 hours and no even a hint of a crash.  In
short I can find bugs, but it's a lot more solid on this box than 8.2. 
Feels like 8.1 so far.  Some notes for the release would be.


DON'T release this version with KDE 3.0.0 At least make it 3.0.3 It's
out it's stable and the rpms are built so why not? In Fact if you can
try to send it out with 3.1.1.  The difference between 3.0.0 and 3.0.3
is dramatic in terms of speed and stability.  

PLEASE put slocate back in the default install, and on a disk in every
version of the release (Download PowerPack etc etc)  Oh and if you do
make sure to put the cron job back in slocate.

Zero your efforts in on the i815 and Via all in wonder boards.  NVidia
and ATI are better, but All in Wonder is WalMart and nothing you have
going right now will do more for Mandrake than this WalMart deal.

If and whenever you have the chance, push for the Mandrake Menu system
to become a standard for LSB.  Not necessarily the method but the
taxonomy.  After 5 minutes with Red Hat I find myself saying the heck
with the menu I know the start command give me a shell. (Did you know
there are 3 places that say internet and each one has a different set of
apps?)

Take a strong look at some of the backwards compatible libs that RH is
putting in 7.3  They go a long way to easing the transition from
glibc2.x to glibc3.x. As well as allowing more and more KDE2.2 apps to
work in KDE3.x

Release 9.0 with glibc3.2 not an earlier one.  Worked with all 3 of the
versions. 3.2 is head and shoulders above the others.

Why does the second partition in the Mandrake installer HAVE to be an
extended one?  I do multi-boot. (8 or 9 distro's per box) Cutting out 2
partitions does affect me.  (Yep on a 80 gig drive I can use all 19. 3
primaries 1 extended and 16 logical) cutting out 2 means one less distro
and I do notice this.


Oh well enough soapbox All in all 9.0 is shaping up to be the most
solid release since 7.0.  Don't be afraid to have a beta 5 or even 6 if
it makes increases stability and saves developer sanity it will be worth
it.  

How about a 4th ISO with the beta's  This one only contains the rpm's
that have been updated since the last beta... Mandrake Control Center
could handle this no problem so why not do it?  Not only would it make
the mirrors happy (it drops the bandwidth usage.) but it would keep me
from becoming a power user in ATT's eyes (My Cable provider.) *grin*


James








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Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

Lonnie.

  If you are looking to get that small embedded Linux will carry you
further than any of the desktop dirsto's.  At that size you are not
going to be dealing with the same needs as you would with a full
desktop. The /bin directory alone is larger than what you need. (6.8
megs) Peanut Linux Pee Wee Linux and MicroWindows or Tiny X will start
to get you down to the small footprint you need.  Busybox isn't a distro
but it does allow you to have /bin /sbin and all of your base utilities
in under 600k  The other thing to look at is do you really need the 2.4
kernel?  2.0 kernel is still around and it's current.  And very well may
provide you with all the features you need, at about half the size or
less. But if you do need the 2.4 kernel in the early days of Embedded
Linux Magazine Bruce Perens did a 3 part series on building a floppy
based Linux using BusyBox and 2.4.  You can access the archives via
www.linuxjournal.com.  Take that add Tiny Login (he covers that) and one
of the small windowing systems I mentioned and you could easily be under
the 10 meg limit you need.

James


On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 14:39, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
 Thanks for the response Chuck.
 
 I guess that I'll just have to keep investigating the problem a little more.
 
 Thanks again,
 Lonnie
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Chuck Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:29 AM
 Subject: Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?
 
 
  On Sunday 25 August 2002 17:04, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
  What I need now is a small minimalist distribution of Mandrake that
  would have the latest supported kernel 2.4.x and latest Xfree 4.x
  windowing system. My project will be connecting to the internet as
  well via NFS and Samba along with not needing things like KDE nor
  GNOME and will be installing my own window manager.
  
  The trick to this is that although I will have either an ext2 or
  ext3 filesystem, I need the whole distribution to be initially
  small, something like under about 5 - 10 Meg if possible. I will
  be adding other packages as they are needed.
  
  I have come across a few other distributions on the Internet that
  claim to be able to offer a kernel and xwindows on only 2 floppy
  disks but would prefer to work with Mandrake if possible.
  
  does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this task accomplished
  easily with Mandrake?
 
  I don't think that a stock Mandrake is up to this small of an
  installation.  If you select expert mode during the install,
  then select none of the package groups, you will be asked if
  you are trying to install a barren system, and if you tell the
  installer to use the minimal package set, it still comes out
  right near 100 MB.  (I think it was 101, or there about...)
  This minimal installation footprint does not include any
  XFree86 packages, and doesn't even include urpmi and friends!
  If memory serves, none of the network servers (NFS, SMB, etc)
  are inclused in the minimal footprint, either, so they would
  have to be added in during individual package selection (next).
  The installation proceeds to the individual package selection,
  where one can (de-)select additional packages, but I don't know
  if trimming things down to 10 MB is feasible with Mandrake.
 
  Best regards!
  -Chuck
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Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?

2002-08-25 Thread Lonnie Cumberland

Hi James,

Thanks for the information and I will look into those distributions to get a
feel for what they can do. I have also found the Linux Terminal Server
Project as well and it might be a good starting point as well because the
project is close to an advanced terminal which will be running some graphics
programs and thus any latest kernels and xfree will allow me to take
advantage of the hardware acceleration that the machines may have.

Cheers,
Lonnie

- Original Message -
From: James Sparenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mandrake Expert List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 12:07 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?


 Lonnie.

   If you are looking to get that small embedded Linux will carry you
 further than any of the desktop dirsto's.  At that size you are not
 going to be dealing with the same needs as you would with a full
 desktop. The /bin directory alone is larger than what you need. (6.8
 megs) Peanut Linux Pee Wee Linux and MicroWindows or Tiny X will start
 to get you down to the small footprint you need.  Busybox isn't a distro
 but it does allow you to have /bin /sbin and all of your base utilities
 in under 600k  The other thing to look at is do you really need the 2.4
 kernel?  2.0 kernel is still around and it's current.  And very well may
 provide you with all the features you need, at about half the size or
 less. But if you do need the 2.4 kernel in the early days of Embedded
 Linux Magazine Bruce Perens did a 3 part series on building a floppy
 based Linux using BusyBox and 2.4.  You can access the archives via
 www.linuxjournal.com.  Take that add Tiny Login (he covers that) and one
 of the small windowing systems I mentioned and you could easily be under
 the 10 meg limit you need.

 James


 On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 14:39, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
  Thanks for the response Chuck.
 
  I guess that I'll just have to keep investigating the problem a little m
ore.
 
  Thanks again,
  Lonnie
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Chuck Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 11:29 AM
  Subject: Re: [expert] Minimalist Mandrake Distro Size?
 
 
   On Sunday 25 August 2002 17:04, Lonnie Cumberland wrote:
   What I need now is a small minimalist distribution of Mandrake that
   would have the latest supported kernel 2.4.x and latest Xfree 4.x
   windowing system. My project will be connecting to the internet as
   well via NFS and Samba along with not needing things like KDE nor
   GNOME and will be installing my own window manager.
   
   The trick to this is that although I will have either an ext2 or
   ext3 filesystem, I need the whole distribution to be initially
   small, something like under about 5 - 10 Meg if possible. I will
   be adding other packages as they are needed.
   
   I have come across a few other distributions on the Internet that
   claim to be able to offer a kernel and xwindows on only 2 floppy
   disks but would prefer to work with Mandrake if possible.
   
   does anyone have any ideas on how I can get this task accomplished
   easily with Mandrake?
  
   I don't think that a stock Mandrake is up to this small of an
   installation.  If you select expert mode during the install,
   then select none of the package groups, you will be asked if
   you are trying to install a barren system, and if you tell the
   installer to use the minimal package set, it still comes out
   right near 100 MB.  (I think it was 101, or there about...)
   This minimal installation footprint does not include any
   XFree86 packages, and doesn't even include urpmi and friends!
   If memory serves, none of the network servers (NFS, SMB, etc)
   are inclused in the minimal footprint, either, so they would
   have to be added in during individual package selection (next).
   The installation proceeds to the individual package selection,
   where one can (de-)select additional packages, but I don't know
   if trimming things down to 10 MB is feasible with Mandrake.
  
   Best regards!
   -Chuck
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Re: [expert]

2002-08-25 Thread Alastair Scott

On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 19:41, James Sparenberg wrote:

 PLEASE put slocate back in the default install, and on a disk in every
 version of the release (Download PowerPack etc etc)  Oh and if you do
 make sure to put the cron job back in slocate.

slocate is there.

Apparently there was a big discussion on [cooker] some time ago and the
decision was made to make the update weekly (in 9.0) rather than daily
(in 8.2) as the daily update tied up older machines too much,
particularly if people were switching them on and off. This seems
sensible.

 Zero your efforts in on the i815 and Via all in wonder boards.  NVidia
 and ATI are better, but All in Wonder is WalMart and nothing you have
 going right now will do more for Mandrake than this WalMart deal.

As an owner of a machine with an i815 chipset I strongly second this ;)

[snip]

 
 Oh well enough soapbox All in all 9.0 is shaping up to be the most
 solid release since 7.0.  Don't be afraid to have a beta 5 or even 6 if
 it makes increases stability and saves developer sanity it will be worth
 it.  

Indeed, although the lack of documentation of the burgeoning drak*
utilities is a problem. For example, lspcidrake is very useful for
listing all devices - or what Mandrake thinks are devices - yet you
wouldn't know about it until somebody told you ...
 
 How about a 4th ISO with the beta's  This one only contains the rpm's
 that have been updated since the last beta... Mandrake Control Center
 could handle this no problem so why not do it?  Not only would it make
 the mirrors happy (it drops the bandwidth usage.) but it would keep me
 from becoming a power user in ATT's eyes (My Cable provider.) *grin*

This has been discussed on the [cooker] list. The discussion got rather
confused but I _think_ that, if you keep on doing rsync or urpmi
--auto-select with a cooker host, you pick up the up-to-date packages
anyway although no flag shoots up with 'this is now beta 4' on it (so
one of those now on beta 3 would give you beta 4 + updates until tonight
...).

Alastair




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Re: [expert]

2002-08-25 Thread David Relson

At 03:44 PM 8/25/02, you wrote:
On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 19:41, James Sparenberg wrote:

  PLEASE put slocate back in the default install, and on a disk in every
  version of the release (Download PowerPack etc etc)  Oh and if you do
  make sure to put the cron job back in slocate.

slocate is there.

Apparently there was a big discussion on [cooker] some time ago and the
decision was made to make the update weekly (in 9.0) rather than daily
(in 8.2) as the daily update tied up older machines too much,
particularly if people were switching them on and off. This seems
sensible.

I'm happy with the daily runs.  It's not so important on my firewall, but 
it counts on my two development and test machines where file come, go, and 
move quite regularly.  FWIW, on my P133 (with 4GB drive) the combination of 
slocate, msec, and tripwire does take a while, but the machine has 
sufficient available CPU cycles that running all three _every_ day is fine.





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Re: [expert]

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 12:44, Alastair Scott wrote:
 On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 19:41, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  PLEASE put slocate back in the default install, and on a disk in every
  version of the release (Download PowerPack etc etc)  Oh and if you do
  make sure to put the cron job back in slocate.
 
 slocate is there.
 
 Apparently there was a big discussion on [cooker] some time ago and the
 decision was made to make the update weekly (in 9.0) rather than daily
 (in 8.2) as the daily update tied up older machines too much,
 particularly if people were switching them on and off. This seems
 sensible.

Note Yes I did get it out of cooker but urpmi slocate on the 9.0 beta 4
disks yeilded a no such file error.  Then urpmi locate --fuzzy got the
same result.  The cooker version is hower missing the cron job for this
... had to manully put it in.


 
  Zero your efforts in on the i815 and Via all in wonder boards.  NVidia
  and ATI are better, but All in Wonder is WalMart and nothing you have
  going right now will do more for Mandrake than this WalMart deal.
 
 As an owner of a machine with an i815 chipset I strongly second this ;)
 
 [snip]
 
  
  Oh well enough soapbox All in all 9.0 is shaping up to be the most
  solid release since 7.0.  Don't be afraid to have a beta 5 or even 6 if
  it makes increases stability and saves developer sanity it will be worth
  it.  
 
 Indeed, although the lack of documentation of the burgeoning drak*
 utilities is a problem. For example, lspcidrake is very useful for
 listing all devices - or what Mandrake thinks are devices - yet you
 wouldn't know about it until somebody told you ...

Go ya one better I was told the command was lspci... without the
drake... it does exist but when you had the drake the output is a
lot nicer.

  
  How about a 4th ISO with the beta's  This one only contains the rpm's
  that have been updated since the last beta... Mandrake Control Center
  could handle this no problem so why not do it?  Not only would it make
  the mirrors happy (it drops the bandwidth usage.) but it would keep me
  from becoming a power user in ATT's eyes (My Cable provider.) *grin*
 
 This has been discussed on the [cooker] list. The discussion got rather
 confused but I _think_ that, if you keep on doing rsync or urpmi
 --auto-select with a cooker host, you pick up the up-to-date packages
 anyway although no flag shoots up with 'this is now beta 4' on it (so
 one of those now on beta 3 would give you beta 4 + updates until tonight
 ...).

There is a really good discussion on pclinuxonline.com with texstar (he
advocates rsync) on this.  The problem seems to be that most of the
download sites either don't support rsync or limit the number of rsyncs
to such a low number of users it's dang near impossible to get in.  I
know I've been able to download an iso via ftp before I could ever get
logged in via rsync. ie IF I start both at about the same time by the
time I get in via rsync I'm ready to fix any errors in the original
download. rsync is a wonderful tool but if no one is supporting
it... it's problematic.
 
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[expert] Mandrake 9 beta 3 bug report

2002-08-25 Thread Lorne

I installed Beta 3 on a brand new Gigabyte 2.2 P4 box. It has a promise raid 
controller with a Radeon ATI all in wonder card. 

The Boot loader thrashed my MBR. My guess is because I'm installing this on a 
standard IDE drive and the boot loader is on the promise mirrored drive. I 
CAN boot using the Floppy with no problem. I had to redo my MBR though for my 
XP partition. 

Support for the LS120 is MUCH MUCH better. Before it didn't work at all. Now 
it detects, and even allowed me to make my boot disk directly to the LS120 
drive! COOL! 

I used the newest hardware accelerated xwindows and am seeing some very odd 
display bugs. For instance, I cut and paste from one Mozilla browser window 
to another. A bash window I had open filled up with some cut data! ?? 

I atttemped to set up a cups printer (VERY COOL from the past).  I thought 
perhaps I needed to restart the cups daemon to get it to start working. I 
attempted to go to a bash prompt. I couldn't get out of X, and I when I went 
to ALT-F1 the cursor wasn't in the right place and I couldn't tell what I was 
typing. I finally had to do a CTRL-ALT-Delete. ??

I attemped to do a updatedb for locate and got a segmentation fault. I ended 
up having to reset the computer. If no one is having any troubles in this 
area, then perhaps it is just my hardware and can follow up further if 
details are requested.

Still no support added in the video setup section for the ViewSonic A110. 

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Re: [expert]

2002-08-25 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sunday August 25 2002 02:44 pm, Alastair Scott wrote:

 This has been discussed on the [cooker] list. The discussion got
 rather confused but I _think_ that, if you keep on doing rsync or
 urpmi --auto-select with a cooker host, you pick up the up-to-date
 packages anyway although no flag shoots up with 'this is now beta 4'
 on it (so one of those now on beta 3 would give you beta 4 + updates
 until tonight ...).

 Alastair

I've got cooker current.  Comparing to an 'ls' of beta4's /RPMS dir 
a friend emailed me, cooker current is several days ahead of beta4. 
MOF, when B4 first went on the mirrors, it was already several days 
old, and missing (IMO) some important fixes/improvements since.  So 
that leaves me wonderin what the point is in releasing stale beta's ??
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Re: [expert]

2002-08-25 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Sunday August 25 2002 01:41 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 Report from the field (so to speak)
 I just downloaded and installed 9.0 beta 4. the box seems to be
 sitting here like a rock... 5 hours and no even a hint of a crash. 
 In short I can find bugs, but it's a lot more solid on this box than
 8.2. Feels like 8.1 so far. 

I've been usin 9.0 since the June alpha release and found it to be 
better than 8.x with a kde3 upgrade. Solid. Currently I'm past beta4 
(which has had many updated packages since it was mirrored on Fri.), 
usin current cooker.

 DON'T release this version with KDE 3.0.0 At least make it 3.0.3 It's
 out it's stable and the rpms are built so why not? In Fact if you can
 try to send it out with 3.1.1.  The difference between 3.0.0 and
 3.0.3 is dramatic in terms of speed and stability.

   ?? current kde is kde*-3.0.3 in 9.0.  MOF, if you watch the CHRPM 
list, Mandrake's 3.0.3 contains some 3.1 back ports (eg, flash is back 
for Konqueror, 3.1 mem leak fixes, etc).  I doubt you'll see 9.0 Final 
with kde 3.1 tho. Altho, I'm a KDE user/fan, kde3 probly won't be 
release grade til 3.3.3 ;   Still better than Gnome 2.anything ;)

 PLEASE put slocate back in the default install,

   ?? ??  (it's never been missing),   slocate-2.6-5mdk
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[expert] E-mail conversion

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

Ok I'm convinced evolution is a great tool.  One question does anyone
know of a way to convert Sylpheed Mail to Evlolution Tried exporting
as mbox but evo can't read that, and no direct conversion is available. 
Any ideas anyone?

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[expert] rpmrc

2002-08-25 Thread skidley

I've read the RPM Howtos and I'm trying to get an .rpmrc setup so I can
build rpms as normal user. I had this setup before but I dont have my
old config files to go by. I have this in my ~/.rpmrc

topdir: /home/skidley/rpm

and I get this error: bad option 'topdir' at /home/skidley/.rpmrc:1

Is my syntax wrong or is the option changed in latest rpm? I'm using
rpm-4.0.4-16mdk from 9.0 beta 4
-- 
I mean they are gonna kill ya so like if ya give em a quick, short, sharp,
shock they won't do it again. Dig it! I mean he got off lightly cuz I would 
have given him a thrashing. I only hit him once. It was only a difference of 
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Re: [expert] Proper UID for Nobody ?

2002-08-25 Thread Woody Green

It is not unusual for nobody to be 65535 (16 bits) on various systems. 
On an MDK system, I might get worried a little as nobody is usually 99.

 Woody

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 21:51, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
 
 I've noticed that the account nobody on this system has a user id of
 65534.  Is this correct?
 
 I'm asking because back in the day I used to make backdoor admin
 accounts using UID numbers higher than 65535.  I thought it mighty odd
 to see a UID number this large naturally on the system.
 
 Comments...?
 
 
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Re: [expert] rpmrc

2002-08-25 Thread Vox

skidley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I've read the RPM Howtos and I'm trying to get an .rpmrc setup so I can
 build rpms as normal user. I had this setup before but I dont have my
 old config files to go by. I have this in my ~/.rpmrc
 
 topdir: /home/skidley/rpm

  That stuff now goes in .rpmmacros here's mine:

%_topdir   /home/vox/tarballs/rpms
%_tmppath  /home/vox/tarballs/rpms/tmp

%_signaturegpg
%_gpg_name Mandrake Linux
%_gpg_path ~/.gnupg
%distribution  Mandrake Linux
%vendorMandrakeSoft

  Vox

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Re: [expert] rpmrc

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

On Sun, 2002-08-25 at 23:06, skidley wrote:
 I've read the RPM Howtos and I'm trying to get an .rpmrc setup so I can
 build rpms as normal user. I had this setup before but I dont have my
 old config files to go by. I have this in my ~/.rpmrc
 
 topdir: /home/skidley/rpm


Try removing the space so that it says topdir:/home/skidley/rpm. 

James

 
 and I get this error: bad option 'topdir' at /home/skidley/.rpmrc:1
 
 Is my syntax wrong or is the option changed in latest rpm? I'm using
 rpm-4.0.4-16mdk from 9.0 beta 4
 -- 
 I mean they are gonna kill ya so like if ya give em a quick, short, sharp,
 shock they won't do it again. Dig it! I mean he got off lightly cuz I would 
 have given him a thrashing. I only hit him once. It was only a difference of 
 opinion but really... I mean good manners don't cost nothin do they. Eh?
 
 
 

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[expert] Re: rpmrc

2002-08-25 Thread skidley

On Mon, Aug 26, 2002 at 02:06:26AM -0400, Skidley wrote:
 I've read the RPM Howtos and I'm trying to get an .rpmrc setup so I can
 build rpms as normal user. I had this setup before but I dont have my
 old config files to go by. I have this in my ~/.rpmrc
 
 topdir: /home/skidley/rpm
 
 and I get this error: bad option 'topdir' at /home/skidley/.rpmrc:1
 
 Is my syntax wrong or is the option changed in latest rpm? I'm using
 rpm-4.0.4-16mdk from 9.0 beta 4
 -- 
 I mean they are gonna kill ya so like if ya give em a quick, short, sharp,
 shock they won't do it again. Dig it! I mean he got off lightly cuz I would 
 have given him a thrashing. I only hit him once. It was only a difference of 
 opinion but really... I mean good manners don't cost nothin do they. Eh?

Never mind I realized topdir is a macro and not meant for rpmrc files
-- 
I mean they are gonna kill ya so like if ya give em a quick, short, sharp,
shock they won't do it again. Dig it! I mean he got off lightly cuz I would 
have given him a thrashing. I only hit him once. It was only a difference of 
opinion but really... I mean good manners don't cost nothin do they. Eh?



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Re: [expert] auto logout

2002-08-25 Thread Woody Green

On Mon, 2002-08-19 at 22:24, Mark Weaver wrote:
 Dan Cox wrote:
  Is there a way to auto logout inactive users? I have seen something
  about TMOUT variable, but when I set it in /etc/profile and login at
  console I get bash: TMOUT read only or something similar. So my
  question is how do I get TMOUT to work? Also does TMOUT work for users
  who are using X, gnome, kde, ect.? If not how could I set an auto logout
  for those applications? Thanks for all the help.
  
  Dan Cox
 
 Dan,
 
 I can't help but wonder. Why would you want to?
 

Increase security a little and save resources by kicking out inactive
users.  This is actually rather common on multi-user systems and the
default behavior of MDK if you engage one of the higher security
levels.  To answer the original question though, msec will do this for
you; edit /etc/sysconfig/msec and add:

 TMOUT=900

Replace 900 with the number of seconds of grace you would like.  There
is a catch though.  It only dumps truly inactive users.  If a user walks
away with an editor running, or any program for that matter (tailing a
log file for instance) the system will not see the user as idle.

If resource conservation is what you are seeking, see: 

 /etc/security/*

Short of writing a frequent cron job that scans the logged in users and
checks for the time logged on and true activity, I cannot see a way to
kick someone off automatically if they are idle, but 'active' (running a
command).  I could have overlooked something though.

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[expert] Video Memory and the i815 Chipset.

2002-08-25 Thread James Sparenberg

Ok one box 4 distro's 

Mandrake 8.2
Mandrake 9.0beta 4
RedHat 7.3
SuSe 8.0

In my never ending quest to find out why 8.2 crashes so often I've run
across this ...

Mandrake 8.0 claims I have only 4096K of video ram
Mandrake 9.0 claims I have only 16384k of video ram

RedHat and Suse both see the full 6554k of video ram.  


The video is via an Intel i815 chipset onboard video from an ASUS TUSL2
motherboard. In BIOS Video Ram is set to 6554k as is recognized by SuSe
and RedHat.  What gives.  If I manually adjust XF86Config-4 in either
Mandrake distro to the correct number ... X will not start.  It simply
respawns until the system decides to stop it. The only error message is
that X is respawning too fast.  When I set it back ... It works just
fine.  The result is that under Mandrake I can only get 16 bit color and
3d acceleration bites. In RH and SuSe it sings and 32bit color at 1280 x
1084 is fine. I've tried installing and telling it mem=448M (512 - 64)
but it still insists I have only the smaller amount. Any thoughts?

James

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