Re: [expert] [OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!?

2003-03-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 11:28 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Wednesday 05 March 2003 05:58 pm, stefmit wrote:
> > Sorry for the OT, but I am feeling so frustrated now ... I meant to
> > ask this question for a while (Google didn't turn any positive
> > results), but it is now when I am in dire need of an answer: is
> > there an equivalent multi-site search agent for Linux, as Copernic
> > is for Windows?
>
> Google is about all I use now, but I used to use copernic, and I liked
> it as it saved my searches.
>
Mozilla used to save searches, but all has changed now.  Instead there is the 
ability to save a group of tabs.  I didn't realise the advantage of this at 
first, but it enables you to keep the search on the first tab, open pages in 
separate tabs, closing the ones that aren't any good, and saving the useful 
ones because you kept them open.

Galeon has a similar feature, but that is called 'save session' IIRC.

Both are extremely useful.

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[expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
Please forgive me...

James



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Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 21:25, Kwan Lowe wrote:
> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 23:50, James Sparenberg wrote:
> > All,
> > 
> >Ok having a problem with CVS permissions on our CVS server.  Seems
> > that when people check stuff in it's setting the ownership as that
> > user... Then no one else can check it out.  I've put each user into the
> > group cvs and cvs into each user group.  But still this occurs.  They
> > are using pserver checkout both directly and over ssh tunnel (we've
> > tried it both ways to see if makes a difference.)  I'd like to avoid
> > having just one cvs user as then I wouldn't know who checked out what
> > when.  
> > 
> >Any suggestions/criticisms here?
> There's a flag called PreservePermissions in the CVS configuration file
> that should *not* be set. Try looking for this file. Also, check that
> the cvs binary is not setuid.

Kwan for the life of me I can't find this. where is it?

sorry.
> 
> 
> 
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[expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
:/
I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't react
to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
continuously. :(

At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK, but
whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those leds
blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make sure,
but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled OK
up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than you
have. :( Please help. :(

Best regards,
Adrian


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[expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...

2003-03-07 Thread Mark Watts
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Hi,

I have a system with 3 harddrives in it (hda = Windows, hdb = spare (part XFS, 
part FAT32) and hdc = Linux (resierfs).
I installed Windows first, followed by 9.0 on hdc, and chose to install lilo 
to hda's boot sector.
This has been working just fine since I installed.
I've come to a point where I'm moving hdb out of the system...
Whenever I remove it, I get the ubiquitos LI LI LI LI LI across the screen, 
indicating that lilo is toast. Putting the drive back makes everything work 
as before.

2 questions:

1) Should lilo really be doing this, bearing in mind that hdb isnt mentioned 
in lilo.conf (It has an old 8.2 install I havent removed yet on it, but I'd 
have to make a boot disk to boot from it).

2) If I re-reun lilo (from a rescue cd and chrooting stuff) without changing 
lilo.conf, will that fix the LI LI LI issue?

Cheers,

Mark.

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Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
I think that happens cause of the auto remapping of your drives. I think hdc
becomes hdb when you pull hdb out. So modifying lilo.conf and replacing hdc
with hdb, running lilo afterwards, removing hdb and rebooting should solve
it.

- Original Message -
From: "Mark Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 12:19 PM
Subject: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...


> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Hi,
>
> I have a system with 3 harddrives in it (hda = Windows, hdb = spare (part
XFS,
> part FAT32) and hdc = Linux (resierfs).
> I installed Windows first, followed by 9.0 on hdc, and chose to install
lilo
> to hda's boot sector.
> This has been working just fine since I installed.
> I've come to a point where I'm moving hdb out of the system...
> Whenever I remove it, I get the ubiquitos LI LI LI LI LI across the
screen,
> indicating that lilo is toast. Putting the drive back makes everything
work
> as before.
>
> 2 questions:
>
> 1) Should lilo really be doing this, bearing in mind that hdb isnt
mentioned
> in lilo.conf (It has an old 8.2 install I havent removed yet on it, but
I'd
> have to make a boot disk to boot from it).
>
> 2) If I re-reun lilo (from a rescue cd and chrooting stuff) without
changing
> lilo.conf, will that fix the LI LI LI issue?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mark.
>
> - --
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> Systems Engineer
> QinetiQ TIM
> St Andrews Road, Malvern
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RE: [expert] samb file permission

2003-03-07 Thread Ken Walker
Your force create mode = 660 is only going to give you __wx_wx___, in other
words, the creator can only write and execute ( or get access to a folder )
and the allocated group can only write and execute ( or get access to a
folder ) none of them can ever see the file, wherever it is.

which means that every file that a user creates can never be seen or read by
them. They only have write and execute rights.

What you need is

create mode = 750

This will give the creator full access to the files and read only to members
of the group.

I don't think you need the leading 0, it might be causing more problems such
as being read as 066


ps that 's' looks very interesting, cos i think it should be a 'x'

Ken 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Norman Zhang
Sent: 07 March 2003 1:41 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] samb file permission


Hi,

Sorry. My mistake. Users were trying to move files that they don't have
permission into the folders. Copying files or creating files does work. But
they still get the prompt saying "You might not be able to access the files
you created. Do you want to continue?" Is there a fix for this? I added

force create mode = 0660
force directory mode = 0770

but problem still persists.

drwxrws---5 root Domain Users   55 Dec 21 19:02 approval/
drwxrws---5 root Domain Users   55 Dec 21 19:02 baseband/
drwxrws---4 root Domain Users   43 Dec 21 19:02 DECT/
drwxrws---3 root Domain Users   22 Jan  5 17:44 id/
drwxrws---6 root Domain Users   63 Dec 21 19:02 market/
drwxrws---   13 root Domain Users 4096 Dec 21 17:28 mis/
drwxrws---3 root Domain Users   56 Dec 21 19:03 prodev/
drwxrws---6 root Domain Users   59 Jan  5 17:54 quality/
drwxrws---6 root Domain Users   73 Jan  5 17:15 rf/
drwxrws---6 root Domain Users   53 Jan  5 17:24 software/
drwxrws---4 root Domain Users   35 Dec 21 17:20 support/

Regards,
Norman

- Original Message -
From: "Bill Mullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] samb file permission


On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 16:52, Norman Zhang wrote:

> Everytime users want to create a folder in the share, they get a prompt
> saying "They may not be able to access the folder". If they go ahead, they
> can still creat sub-folders, but cannot copy files to the folder. Would
> someone please give me some help? My config is as follows,
>
> [proj]
>  comment = Project Documents
>  path = /srv/proj
>  read only = no
>  create mask = 0660
>  directory mask = 0770
>  hide unreadable = yes

What does `ls -l /srv/proj` look like?




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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
Forgot to mention. Starting the "rescue" I can go to console and do whatever
the rescue stuff allows you to do. :) But since it freezes so early I also
cannot find anything in the logs related to it and dunno what could I change
(if anything) so I would make the system boot. Funny stuff is also that the
installer also freezes my PC the second I start it. :/

Best regards,
Adrian

- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:30 AM
Subject: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


> :/
> I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
react
> to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> continuously. :(
>
> At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
> install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
> When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK,
but
> whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those
leds
> blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
sure,
> but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled
OK
> up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
> only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
> kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than
you
> have. :( Please help. :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
>
>
>






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Re: [expert] OT - Not ready while 123 runs

2003-03-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:37, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> And just what does any of this have to do with MDK?
> I don't particularly care what will, or will not install on XP. This
> isn't the place for it.
> 
> Ric
Nothing. And everything.

BTW, it was supposed to go to the OT list. A careless click did it all.

In the 90s, when OS/2 version 3 was launched and NT 3.5 was still
vaporware, I read somewhere that software companies were massively
commiting suicide by developing only for Winblows and not for OS/2. At
that time I learned about the new DOS version and Lotus 123 story.

Companies like Borland (Quattro Pro, Paradox, TurboC, TurboPascal),
WordPerfect, Lotus (123, WordPro, Organizer) and Ashton-Tate (dBase)
kept developing only for Winblows, while M$ kept hiding secrets API that
were needed for program to work in an acceptable way. And every new
version of Winblows made those program behave even weirder or slower.

That article was prophetic. Those company are gone, downsized to
molecular level or serving a niche market. Also OS/2 is gone.

History is repeating again. Companies are not developing for Linux
because it doesn't have a significant market share in the desktop arena
and instead they kept developing for Winblows.

Meanwhile M$ is doing everything it can to "show" people that competing
software quality is inferior. And if they can't, then they do something
to make people life harder installing the competing packages.

Could you imagine the position of Linux if there were the products I
already mentioned for this platform? Well, my guess is that right now
would be a massive move from Winblows to Linux.

It would be the end of this chicken-egg history: companies don't develop
for a platform because there are not enough customers working on it, but
customers don't adopt the platform because there are not enough
application to work with on it. Meanwhile the only winner stay healthy
in the US Northwest coast.

I would hate going back to Winblows. Right now I make most of my living
with Windows and live happily in Linux. By the end of the year that
sentence will only contains the word Linux. My clients are now open to
make the move.

Again sorry for posting a "non technical" subject in this list. But it
has a lot to do with Mandrake future as a significant desktop operating
system from the point of view of market share.

Moving to the OT list.
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won'tboot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
Hi Adrian,

Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check lilo
if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on and
see if the new kernel will work well.

Cheers,

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> Forgot to mention. Starting the "rescue" I can go to console and do whatever
> the rescue stuff allows you to do. :) But since it freezes so early I also
> cannot find anything in the logs related to it and dunno what could I change
> (if anything) so I would make the system boot. Funny stuff is also that the
> installer also freezes my PC the second I start it. :/
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 11:30 AM
> Subject: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
> boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
>
>
> > :/
> > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> react
> > to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> > continuously. :(
> >
> > At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
> > install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
> > When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK,
> but
> > whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those
> leds
> > blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
> sure,
> > but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled
> OK
> > up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
> > only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
> > kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than
> you
> > have. :( Please help. :(
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> 
> 
>
>
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>
>
>

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 05:30 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> :/
>
> I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> react to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> continuously. :(
>
> At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
> install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
> When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK, but
> whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those leds
> blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make sure,
> but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled OK
> up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
> only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
> kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than you
> have. :( Please help. :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian

I think you need the enterprise kernel with that much memory
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RE: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN
Another. So you have 1G or more? I know the stock kernel won't handle mem
above 1G. Does the rescue CD get you into linux? The enterprise kernel is 
what you want for large mem (for mdk provided kernels)

Brian D. Klar - CVE
Multimax 
Network Engineer
WPAFB


-Original Message-
From: Greg Meyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 8:02 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


On Friday 07 March 2003 05:30 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> :/
>
> I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> react to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> continuously. :(
>
> At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
> install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
> When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK, but
> whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those leds
> blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make sure,
> but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled OK
> up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
> only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
> kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than you
> have. :( Please help. :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian

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Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...

2003-03-07 Thread Mark Watts
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> I think that happens cause of the auto remapping of your drives. I think
> hdc becomes hdb when you pull hdb out. So modifying lilo.conf and replacing
> hdc with hdb, running lilo afterwards, removing hdb and rebooting should
> solve it.

Shouldn't do - on other boxes I run a single drive on each channel, so I never 
get an hdb (or hdd/hdf/hdh)

Mark

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Mark Watts
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> Hi Adrian,
>
>   Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check lilo
> if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
> kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on and
> see if the new kernel will work well.

You can run a gig of ram on the nomal mdk kernels just fine - linux just 
doesnt 'see' that much ram untill you compile in high memory support. (which 
is what the enterprise kernel has.

Mark.

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Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?

2003-03-07 Thread J. Grant
Hi,

I have a different problem, I'm just hijacking james's thread though :)

I have been unable to get "cvs diff -uN" to work, the -N flag should 
include new files in the patch.  I can not add files to the local 
repository with "cvs add" which I believe I should be able to. I do not 
have a cvs account on this project, so i just checkout as guest.  It is 
wierd that "cvs add" does not work, and the -N flag does not work 
either.  cvs server and client are both under a few weeks old.

Any tips welcome.

Cheers

JG


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[expert] Another kde(?) oddity

2003-03-07 Thread Anne Wilson
If, from an email, I click on 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/29632.html

Netscape opens up with 

file:///home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kfmexec/tmp/9857.0.29632.html in the address 
box, and links do not work.  I have to delete the url, then go back to the 
email and copy and paste the correct address in.

I presume that I have accidentally set something ridiculous in the kde 
options, but what?

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RE: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won 't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread engage
Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ..
> Another. So you have 1G or more? I know the stock kernel won't handle mem
> above 1G. Does the rescue CD get you into linux? The enterprise kernel
> is 
> what you want for large mem (for mdk provided kernels)
> 
> Brian D. Klar - CVE
> Multimax 
> Network Engineer
> WPAFB
> 
> 

That sucks. I've been thinking of bringing my memory total to 1G also. Mainly because 
of slow performance. (Mandrake 9).
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Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?

2003-03-07 Thread Tom Brinkman

> On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > Mandrake 9.0.  I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm
> > -qa|grep lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer.
> >  I then just downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it.
> >  Nothing. It does the "preparing" thing but just stalls and never
> > gets anywhere. I then tried running "rpm --rebuilddb" and via
> > gkrellm I see CPU activity spike up to 100% for about 10 seconds
> > or so but then it drops back to background and nothing comes of
> > it (from the CLI).  I do not get dumped back to the commandline
> > and I have to do a Ctrl-C to get the command prompt back.
> >
> > What do I do to get rpm working again?  What file do I delete
> > (database, config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with
> > an "rpm --rebuild"?

   rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.*
 (^^, that's two underscores)
   rpm --rebuilddb

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Re: [expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 07 March 2003 04:00 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
> Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
> here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
> Please forgive me...
>
> James

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Re: [expert] OT - Not ready while 123 runs

2003-03-07 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
On 07 Mar 2003 08:51:05 -0400, Adolfo Bello <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 03:37, Ric Tibbetts wrote:
> > And just what does any of this have to do with MDK?
> > I don't particularly care what will, or will not install on XP. This
> > isn't the place for it.
> > 
> > Ric
> Nothing. And everything.
> 
> BTW, it was supposed to go to the OT list. A careless click did it all.
> 
> In the 90s, when OS/2 version 3 was launched and NT 3.5 was still
> vaporware, I read somewhere that software companies were massively
> commiting suicide by developing only for Winblows and not for OS/2. At
> that time I learned about the new DOS version and Lotus 123 story.
> 
> Companies like Borland (Quattro Pro, Paradox, TurboC, TurboPascal),
> WordPerfect, Lotus (123, WordPro, Organizer) and Ashton-Tate (dBase)
> kept developing only for Winblows, while M$ kept hiding secrets API that
> were needed for program to work in an acceptable way. And every new
> version of Winblows made those program behave even weirder or slower.
> 
> That article was prophetic. Those company are gone, downsized to
> molecular level or serving a niche market. Also OS/2 is gone.
> 
> History is repeating again. Companies are not developing for Linux
> because it doesn't have a significant market share in the desktop arena
> and instead they kept developing for Winblows.
> 
> Meanwhile M$ is doing everything it can to "show" people that competing
> software quality is inferior. And if they can't, then they do something
> to make people life harder installing the competing packages.
> 
> Could you imagine the position of Linux if there were the products I
> already mentioned for this platform? Well, my guess is that right now
> would be a massive move from Winblows to Linux.
> 
> It would be the end of this chicken-egg history: companies don't develop
> for a platform because there are not enough customers working on it, but
> customers don't adopt the platform because there are not enough
> application to work with on it. Meanwhile the only winner stay healthy
> in the US Northwest coast.
> 
> I would hate going back to Winblows. Right now I make most of my living
> with Windows and live happily in Linux. By the end of the year that
> sentence will only contains the word Linux. My clients are now open to
> make the move.
> 
> Again sorry for posting a "non technical" subject in this list. But it
> has a lot to do with Mandrake future as a significant desktop operating
> system from the point of view of market share.
> 
> Moving to the OT list.

Is the subject header a reference to the old Microsoft internal slogan, "Windows
is not done until Lotus 123 won't run"?

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Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?

2003-03-07 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Thanks all.  I will keep your suggestions in my good-to-know file.  As it 
turns out, I didn't have to do any of this stuff, at least this time or 
exactly as suggested.

I had tried running rebuilddb several times which produced a spike of CPU 
activity followed by nothing.  I had then tried installing several rpms with 
the same result as I described previously.  As a user I could get individual 
rpms to show up (ie, "rpm -q kdebase" would work).  I could even do this as 
root.  If I tried a broader query (rpm -qa|grep ) I would get 
nada.

Ultimately, I rebooted after all this.  I then found that root and user were 
able to query the database and install rpms again.  At this point I don't 
know if my repeated --rebuilddb attempts actually worked but stalled before 
closing the process or what, but it is working again for now.

praedor

On Friday 07 March 2003 09:15 am, Tom Brinkman wrote:
> > On Thursday 06 March 2003 03:42 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
> > > Mandrake 9.0.  I was just trying to run a search for lesstif (rpm
> > > -qa|grep lesstif) and found myself waiting forever for an answer.
> > >  I then just downloaded the lesstif rpm and tried to install it.
> > >  Nothing. It does the "preparing" thing but just stalls and never
> > > gets anywhere. I then tried running "rpm --rebuilddb" and via
[...]
> > > What do I do to get rpm working again?  What file do I delete
> > > (database, config, whatever) so I can reset the whole mess with
> > > an "rpm --rebuild"?
>
>rm -f /var/lib/rpm/__db.*
>  (^^, that's two underscores)
>rpm --rebuilddb

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread engage
Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ..
> Hi Adrian,
> 
>   Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check lilo
> if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
> kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on and
> see if the new kernel will work well.
> 
> Cheers,
> 

I'm assuming that the Enterprise kernel comes with the standard distro? (I'm not at 
home to check right now).
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won'tboot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Michael Scottaline
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:10:06 +
Mark Watts <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribbled furiously:

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> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
> > lilo if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin
> > the new kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then
> > power on and see if the new kernel will work well.
> 
> You can run a gig of ram on the nomal mdk kernels just fine - linux just
> 
> doesnt 'see' that much ram untill you compile in high memory support.
> (which is what the enterprise kernel has.
==
Can 768MB of RAM be seen without recompiling?  Mandrake 9.x
Mike


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Re: [expert] Lilo with multiple hard drives...

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
well.. in my case it helped when I had the prob (though can't remember
exactly which drive was remapped in my case. Can you post your lilo.conf?

Best regards,
Adrian
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> > I think that happens cause of the auto remapping of your drives. I think
> > hdc becomes hdb when you pull hdb out. So modifying lilo.conf and
replacing
> > hdc with hdb, running lilo afterwards, removing hdb and rebooting should
> > solve it.
>
> Shouldn't do - on other boxes I run a single drive on each channel, so I
never
> get an hdb (or hdd/hdf/hdh)
>
> Mark
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
I know, that is why I am wondering why it freezes including the install CD.
Even if I would have to have a "enterprise" kernel (as I read in some other
answers), the installer should provide at least an alternative kernel for
such situations. It reminds me of the >3G problem on Windows NT and I hate
M$ products. :) Only in NT if you had more than 3GB you had to pull a module
out, install and then put it back in. I even tried starting "alt1" from the
install CD and still the same freeze. :/

I will try now to boot the existing system by pulling one module out, rpm
the enterprise kernel and then put it back in and see if it boots. but even
if this is the solution it still doesn't seem right. :/

Anyway, just for info. I booted also just with the new module and boots ok.

Best regards,
Adrian

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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


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> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
lilo
> > if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
> > kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on
and
> > see if the new kernel will work well.
>
> You can run a gig of ram on the nomal mdk kernels just fine - linux just
> doesnt 'see' that much ram untill you compile in high memory support.
(which
> is what the enterprise kernel has.
>
> Mark.
>
> - --
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> Systems Engineer
> QinetiQ TIM
> St Andrews Road, Malvern
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Re: [expert] OT - Not ready while 123 runs

2003-03-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 09:18, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:

> Is the subject header a reference to the old Microsoft internal slogan, "Windows
> is not done until Lotus 123 won't run"?
Yes, it is.


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Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?

2003-03-07 Thread Kwan Lowe
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 08:31, J. Grant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I have a different problem, I'm just hijacking james's thread though :)
> 
> I have been unable to get "cvs diff -uN" to work, the -N flag should 
> include new files in the patch.  I can not add files to the local 
> repository with "cvs add" which I believe I should be able to. I do not 
> have a cvs account on this project, so i just checkout as guest.  It is 
> wierd that "cvs add" does not work, and the -N flag does not work 
> either.  cvs server and client are both under a few weeks old.
> 


You probably need to do this on the directory level to get those new
files or add the recursive switch. Another way is to check out a
pristine copy alongside your version the run a recursive patch against
the directory.

diff -urN /pristine_dir /changed_dir > filename.patch


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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
This is getting weird. With selfcompiled kernel and high memory support
still same freeze. With enterprise kernel still freezes. With mem=960M as
parameter still freezes. :/

What the heck?!? Huh?!?

I am running out of clues here... Anyone faced same problem at any point?

Best regards,
Adrian
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Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:10 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


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> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
lilo
> > if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
> > kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on
and
> > see if the new kernel will work well.
>
> You can run a gig of ram on the nomal mdk kernels just fine - linux just
> doesnt 'see' that much ram untill you compile in high memory support.
(which
> is what the enterprise kernel has.
>
> Mark.
>
> - --
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> Systems Engineer
> QinetiQ TIM
> St Andrews Road, Malvern
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread et
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:30 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> I know, that is why I am wondering why it freezes including the install CD.
> Even if I would have to have a "enterprise" kernel (as I read in some other
> answers), the installer should provide at least an alternative kernel for
> such situations. It reminds me of the >3G problem on Windows NT and I hate
> M$ products. :) Only in NT if you had more than 3GB you had to pull a
> module out, install and then put it back in. I even tried starting "alt1"
> from the install CD and still the same freeze. :/
just tell the install kernel you only have 256 with the f1 instead of "enter 
to install or upgrade" and type (without the quotes) "linux mem=256M" and 
then hit enter to install.
maybe the "freeze" ain't even a freeze, just a longer pause for processing 
than you were used to, and is due to all that mem.


>
> I will try now to boot the existing system by pulling one module out, rpm
> the enterprise kernel and then put it back in and see if it boots. but even
> if this is the solution it still doesn't seem right. :/
>
> Anyway, just for info. I booted also just with the new module and boots ok.
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Mark Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
> won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
>
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> > > Hi Adrian,
> > >
> > > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
>
> lilo
>
> > > if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the new
> > > kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on
>
> and
>
> > > see if the new kernel will work well.
> >
> > You can run a gig of ram on the nomal mdk kernels just fine - linux just
> > doesnt 'see' that much ram untill you compile in high memory support.
>
> (which
>
> > is what the enterprise kernel has.
> >
> > Mark.
> >
> > - --
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[expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan
SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual property
infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's actions are NOT
good for Linux or open source, and we the community should not stand for it.
PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO and its products. See our
front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for details. We ask that you spread
the word on this boycott -- if enough people listen to the call and boycott
their products, hopefully SCO will realise that their actions are doing them
more harm than good.

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"... I will claim that nobody else "designed" Linux any more than I did, and I
doubt I'll have many people disagreeing. It grew. It grew with a lot of
mutations - and because the mutations were less than random, they were faster
and more directed than alpha-particles in DNA." -- Linus Torvalds


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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won'tboot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
Yes, I agree it doesn't seem right.  So, what's your mobo?  Did you check
any unusual parameter in bios (e.g. for 0S/2 memory?).  Do you run
winblows too? Other possibility is a possible incompatibility between your
memories, I suppose.  Are they equal models?

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> I will try now to boot the existing system by pulling one module out, rpm
> the enterprise kernel and then put it back in and see if it boots. but even
> if this is the solution it still doesn't seem right. :/

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Re: [expert] Another kde(?) oddity

2003-03-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 10:12, Anne Wilson wrote:
> If, from an email, I click on 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/29632.html
> 
> Netscape opens up with 
> 
> file:///home/anne/.kde/share/apps/kfmexec/tmp/9857.0.29632.html in the address 
> box, and links do not work.  I have to delete the url, then go back to the 
> email and copy and paste the correct address in.
> 
> I presume that I have accidentally set something ridiculous in the kde 
> options, but what?
> 
> Anne
You are in better shape than I am. Since I installed Netscape when I
click on a link nothing happens. I have to copy/paste.

And no change was made to the ~/.gnome/Gnome!
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Re: [expert] Another kde(?) oddity

2003-03-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Friday 07 Mar 2003 2:59 pm, Adolfo Bello wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 10:12, Anne Wilson wrote:
> You are in better shape than I am. Since I installed Netscape when I
> click on a link nothing happens. I have to copy/paste.
>
> And no change was made to the ~/.gnome/Gnome!

As a matter of interest, did you find the bit about not allowing it to share a 
profile with Mozilla *before* you installed it?  I didn't. amd the resulting 
war between the two apps for mastery has caused me a lot of problems.  Moz 
seems to have surrendered now, and Netscape behaves much of the time, but 
there are definite oddities.

Take for instance startup - whether I specify blank screen or home page I 
still sometimes get a Netscape page coming up at startup.  I can not find 
anywhere to turn this off.  It's not that important, but it is b*** annoying.

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Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Friday 07 March 2003 09:40 am, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual
> property infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's
> actions are NOT good for Linux or open source, and we the community should
> not stand for it. PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO
> and its products. See our front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for
> details. We ask that you spread the word on this boycott -- if enough
> people listen to the call and boycott their products, hopefully SCO will
> realise that their actions are doing them more harm than good.

This isn't as simple as it would appear.  SCO is part of a super-entity, 
called The Canopy Group, a venture capital thingy.  There are a LOT of other 
companies that are part of this group, including TrollTech, the 
creator/providor of QT which is required/used by KDE.  This Canopy Group 
share management functions.  If SCO is going after IBM (and linux indirectly 
by default) then it is driven by Canopy more than SCO itself, which is 
subsumed in Canopy.  

Ultimately, it is my hope that this is a stupid move to get SCO bought out by 
IBM, which could consume SCO without feeling it, and this will go away.

praedor
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won 't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Mark Watts
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> Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SICN <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ..
>
> > Another. So you have 1G or more? I know the stock kernel won't handle mem
> > above 1G. Does the rescue CD get you into linux? The enterprise kernel
> > is
> > what you want for large mem (for mdk provided kernels)
> >
> > Brian D. Klar - CVE
> > Multimax
> > Network Engineer
> > WPAFB
>
> That sucks. I've been thinking of bringing my memory total to 1G also.
> Mainly because of slow performance. (Mandrake 9).

There are several Mandrake kernels on the install cd's. You have to 
specifically compile in support for upto 4GB ram (theres another option for 
upto 16GB) if you have more than ~900MB.

The enterprise kernel supports upto 4GB ram, and will be installed during 
install if the installer detects more than ~900MB.

The kernel.org kernel has these same 'limitations'. I reality, you are 
changing the addressing mechanism the kernel uses.

Mark.

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Mark Watts
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> Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ..
>
> > Hi Adrian,
> >
> > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
> > lilo if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin the
> > new kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power on
> > and see if the new kernel will work well.
> >
> > Cheers,
>
> I'm assuming that the Enterprise kernel comes with the standard distro?
> (I'm not at home to check right now).

Yes - at install if the installer detects more than ~900 MB, it will install 
the enterprise kernel, which supports upto 4GB ram.

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Re: [expert] net_monitor

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 21:41, James Sparenberg wrote:
...
> Not an expert on this one here... but if you run  
> 
> man console-helper 
> 
> you'll see that this is another one of those programs in front of a
> program designed to run the program behind it programs... (is this
> confusing enough?)  Kind of like etc/alternatives where a called program
> links to a link that links back to the program in question I'm not
> down mouthing any of this... just amazed at the ability of things to get
> so complicated that points of failure go through the roof.
> 
> James
...
Yeah, what kind of dain bramage is going on there? Would love to remove
that if it was safe to do so.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ rpm -q --whatprovides /etc/alternatives
rpm-4.0.4-19mdk

doesn't look safe.
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Re: [expert] cron & tar

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 22:02, Colin Jenkins wrote:
...
> 
> I did break up the copy into smaller parts, but can't see how the problem 
> can be with tar, as it runs ok from the shell, but fails only from cron. :(
> 
> 

sniff, snuffle... smells like environment variables, if not user
permissions. What's the msec level? Is this kernel-secure? Regular users
might be prevented from "wasting system resources," in which case the
job should be run (and tested) as root. At the top of your cron script,
set a variable MAILTO = you and it'll mail the actual failure code.
Explicitly set any variables you're depending on, such as PATH. 

Of course, the fastest way to success is probably tar's -L option...
...
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
and that if the installer doesn't freeze in the meantime like it is my case.
:)

Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Mark Watts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:47 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


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>
> > Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote ..
> >
> > > Hi Adrian,
> > >
> > > Try this, take out your new memory, go to Linux, install
> > > entreprise kernel (it supports large memory) from MDK cds, then check
> > > lilo if new kernel is their, reboot your system, check if can loggin
the
> > > new kernel, then halt your system, put back your new memory then power
on
> > > and see if the new kernel will work well.
> > >
> > > Cheers,
> >
> > I'm assuming that the Enterprise kernel comes with the standard distro?
> > (I'm not at home to check right now).
>
> Yes - at install if the installer detects more than ~900 MB, it will
install
> the enterprise kernel, which supports upto 4GB ram.
>
> - --
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> Systems Engineer
> QinetiQ TIM
> St Andrews Road, Malvern
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Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 06:40, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual property
> infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's actions are NOT
> good for Linux or open source, and we the community should not stand for it.
> PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO and its products. See our
> front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for details. We ask that you spread
> the word on this boycott -- if enough people listen to the call and boycott
> their products, hopefully SCO will realise that their actions are doing them
> more harm than good.

They are of course shooting themselves with this action... however, I
beleive the applicable terms might be euthanasia or self-inflicted coup
de grace :-) Seen any SCO or Caldera out there in the real world lately?
I haven't. They're as dead as OS/2 already and are trying to rattle a
few more coins out before closing shop.
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Re: [expert] Any CVS wizards out there?

2003-03-07 Thread J. Grant

You probably need to do this on the directory level to get those new
files or add the recursive switch. 
I tried with cvs diff -uNr but that did not work either, the N was 
removed i showed from the patch.

Another way is to check out a
pristine copy alongside your version the run a recursive patch against
the directory.
diff -urN /pristine_dir /changed_dir > filename.patch
ok, thanks for this info.

I got this working after adding  "-X .cvsignore", seems strange that 
"cvs add" does not allow me to add to the local repository!

Cheers

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
ASUS A7V8X motherboard. I didn't change anything in config between the
installation of new module and linux not functioning anymore.
I do run winblows 2000 professional (dual boot) as it is the only way to
play some games for now. I am still fiddling with wine and winex so I can
throw windoze away, but untill my radeon 9700 pro and my mobo will have
appropriate drivers which would allow me to rund opengl and dri games I have
to stick with the M$ fscked OS. :(
The modules of memory are both 512MB PC333 DDR at CL 2.5
The only difference is that one is noname and one is Samsung. They are in
theory compatible (same speed, both have EEPROM with the module related info
and both CL2.5). That meaning I can run anything I want in winbloze without
no crash (also if I start all the applications I can think of just to make
the memory fill) and running memtest86 installed on a floppy for 3.5 hours
(>3 complete test cycles) didn't show any errors and no crash or freeze. I
also swapped the modules in the slots untill I ran out of combinations and
still no crash in windows or error in tests, but still no go with linux
(including installer). :(

Best regards,
Adrian

- Original Message -
From: "Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


Yes, I agree it doesn't seem right.  So, what's your mobo?  Did you check
any unusual parameter in bios (e.g. for 0S/2 memory?).  Do you run
winblows too? Other possibility is a possible incompatibility between your
memories, I suppose.  Are they equal models?

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> I will try now to boot the existing system by pulling one module out, rpm
> the enterprise kernel and then put it back in and see if it boots. but
even
> if this is the solution it still doesn't seem right. :/

---
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---
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   Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil










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Fw: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
Here is an answer I got from someone trying to help. If there is a fault in
high-mem maybe someone could fix this before the release?

On the other hand, Joerg since you seem to know more about this problem,
could you post it as a bug in the mandrake bugzilla?

I would really like to see this thing fixed before the release or this
release will be useless to me. :(

Thanx Joerg for the info.

Best regards,
Adrian
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From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:19 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


>
> Hi Mate,
>
> the problem is known (Well, to me at least).
> Give at the command line mem=960M and the problem should go away. It's the
> High-mem stuff that is faulty. I did circumvent that problem in the past
> this way. I had recompiled my own kernel, but don't know what patch I
> added by that time to fix it (Having a Netserver LH4 with 2 GByte of Ram
> and Raid5).
>
> Maybe you can post this to the list - my E-Mail address is somehow
> blacklisted at the moment.
>
> Cheers
>
> Joerg
>
> On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > :/
> > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
react
> > to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> > continuously. :(
> >
> > At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the
linux
> > install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the
kernel.
> > When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK,
but
> > whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those
leds
> > blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
sure,
> > but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled
OK
> > up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in
it
> > only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than
linux
> > kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than
you
> > have. :( Please help. :(
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Adrian
> >
> >
> >
>
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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C

Arrgh!  Half the people I know belong there! ;-)
Bill Mullen wrote:
On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote:
There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering!
http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml

;)

(Bit of an old link, but I just tripped over it the other day - and a
quite hilarious site overall, pity the author no longer updates it.)




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[expert] msec fixed in 9.1?

2003-03-07 Thread Pierre Fortin
SIGH...   I recently noticed that all my users' home directories had 755
permissions...  changed this to 700 and now it's back to 755...  What's
the point of separate userids if msec allows each user to read another's
directory??

Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...?  If not, then I don't care
to continue with msec on my systems:  rpm -e msec  &&  chmod 700 /home


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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 March 2003 01:30 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> :/
>
> I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> react to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> continuously. :(
>
> At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the linux
> install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the kernel.
> When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK, but
> whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those leds
> blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make sure,
> but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled OK
> up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in it
> only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than linux
> kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than you
> have. :( Please help. :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian


IF someone hasn't already pointed it out, the kernel takes the memory and 
bridge map from the BIOS unles you override it.  Dell was infamous for bad 
bridge mapping on the BIOS for at least a couple of their inspiron notebooks 
(try to take an i4000 over 256M and see), but it may not be the only culprit 
on the block.  Kernel 2.2 actually worked on the i4000 up to 512M but then 
2.2 did not trust the BIOS, ever.

try escape on LILO and

linux mem=zyzM

where xyz is somewhat less than the total mem (allowing for shared video etc), 
and of course somewhat less than 900M if you are hoping to install or use the 
standard kernel (use the enterprise kernel for more than 1G).

You might also try booting with one of the alt install kernels (Some of them 
are 2.2 based) and running an update, selecting kernel-enterprise as a new 
package to install.

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
Also I checked and mem=960M doesn't help and the enterprise kernel has same
problem. I tried lowering the mem value even further and with 900 didn't
work. With 800 it worked (both distro kernel and enterprise). :/

Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:07 PM
Subject: Fw: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


> Here is an answer I got from someone trying to help. If there is a fault
in
> high-mem maybe someone could fix this before the release?
>
> On the other hand, Joerg since you seem to know more about this problem,
> could you post it as a bug in the mandrake bugzilla?
>
> I would really like to see this thing fixed before the release or this
> release will be useless to me. :(
>
> Thanx Joerg for the info.
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> - Original Message -
> From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:19 PM
> Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
won't
> boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
>
>
> >
> > Hi Mate,
> >
> > the problem is known (Well, to me at least).
> > Give at the command line mem=960M and the problem should go away. It's
the
> > High-mem stuff that is faulty. I did circumvent that problem in the past
> > this way. I had recompiled my own kernel, but don't know what patch I
> > added by that time to fix it (Having a Netserver LH4 with 2 GByte of Ram
> > and Raid5).
> >
> > Maybe you can post this to the list - my E-Mail address is somehow
> > blacklisted at the moment.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Joerg
> >
> > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > > :/
> > > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my
linux
> > > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> > > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error
found.
> > > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just
loads
> > > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> react
> > > to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> > > continuously. :(
> > >
> > > At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the
> linux
> > > install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the
> kernel.
> > > When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen
OK,
> but
> > > whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those
> leds
> > > blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
> sure,
> > > but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel
handled
> OK
> > > up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in
> it
> > > only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than
> linux
> > > kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less
than
> you
> > > have. :( Please help. :(
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Adrian
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
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> >
> >
>
>
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[expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Rob Blomquist
I have been struggling with a problem on my machine since I 
reformatted and reinstalled Mandrake 9.0.

Basically, anytime I attempt to rip a CD, my mouse goes absolutely 
bonkers.

I run KDE 3.1 for my desktop, and rip CDs with Grip. I have run using 
my CDRW drive and my DVD/CD drive. I have tried cdparanoia at command 
line and I have tried cdda2wav to rip the tracks.

Everything seems to lead to a problem with the mouse.

I have checked IRQ conflicts, and the mouse resides on 12 and the 
drives (ide-scsi) are shown to not have IRQs.

Any ideas? I am at a loss, and the original installation of Mandrake 
9.0 did not have this problem.
-- 
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Kirkland, WA

On the side of the software box, in the 'System Requirements' section,
it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and 
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Joerg Mertin
Well, I had similarities once regarding this - but it was due to the 
PCI-Bus. Try going into the CMOs Setup, and put in Failsafe settings.
Make it slow as possible - eventually also turn down the CPU-Speed, and 
then try the install again. It might give you something ...

Another thing to try is making sure the harddisks/CDRom/DVDRom don't run 
in DMA mode while installing.

PS: You should have taken the A7N8X Board... Never had such a Solid 
beast - Smooth install :)

Cheers

	Joerg

Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
This is getting weird. With selfcompiled kernel and high memory support
still same freeze. With enterprise kernel still freezes. With mem=960M as
parameter still freezes. :/
What the heck?!? Huh?!?

I am running out of clues here... Anyone faced same problem at any point?


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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
It works with mem=800M (tried various but not all). But I wanted to warn you
guys that the enterprise kernel has same problem!

Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "civileme" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


> On Friday 07 March 2003 01:30 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > :/
> >
> > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't
> > react to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> > continuously. :(
> >
> > At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the
linux
> > install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the
kernel.
> > When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen OK,
but
> > whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with those
leds
> > blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
sure,
> > but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel handled
OK
> > up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support in
it
> > only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than
linux
> > kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less than
you
> > have. :( Please help. :(
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Adrian
>
>
> IF someone hasn't already pointed it out, the kernel takes the memory and
> bridge map from the BIOS unles you override it.  Dell was infamous for bad
> bridge mapping on the BIOS for at least a couple of their inspiron
notebooks
> (try to take an i4000 over 256M and see), but it may not be the only
culprit
> on the block.  Kernel 2.2 actually worked on the i4000 up to 512M but then
> 2.2 did not trust the BIOS, ever.
>
> try escape on LILO and
>
> linux mem=zyzM
>
> where xyz is somewhat less than the total mem (allowing for shared video
etc),
> and of course somewhat less than 900M if you are hoping to install or use
the
> standard kernel (use the enterprise kernel for more than 1G).
>
> You might also try booting with one of the alt install kernels (Some of
them
> are 2.2 based) and running an update, selecting kernel-enterprise as a new
> package to install.
>
> Civileme
>
>
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
Actually I wanted the A7N8X too, but they didn't have it when I had money to
burn. :)

I am going to give the mdk12 enterprise from the cooker a go and let ya know
if at least that one works.

Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:30 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


> Well, I had similarities once regarding this - but it was due to the
> PCI-Bus. Try going into the CMOs Setup, and put in Failsafe settings.
> Make it slow as possible - eventually also turn down the CPU-Speed, and
> then try the install again. It might give you something ...
>
> Another thing to try is making sure the harddisks/CDRom/DVDRom don't run
> in DMA mode while installing.
>
> PS: You should have taken the A7N8X Board... Never had such a Solid
> beast - Smooth install :)
>
> Cheers
>
> Joerg
>
> Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > This is getting weird. With selfcompiled kernel and high memory support
> > still same freeze. With enterprise kernel still freezes. With mem=960M
as
> > parameter still freezes. :/
> >
> > What the heck?!? Huh?!?
> >
> > I am running out of clues here... Anyone faced same problem at any
point?
>
>
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Re: [expert] OK, what am I doing wrong when compiling a new kernel?!?

2003-03-07 Thread Carlos Cifuentes
make xconfig
make dep 
make clean
make bzImage  (Image nor image)
make modules
make modules_install
make install
and (with the new kernel) depmod -a
 Adrian Golumbovici <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I do:make menuconfigmake depmake cleanmake bzlilomake modulesmake modules_installliloEverything works fine, but beside the new compiled kernel I cannot boot anyother pre-existing kernel in my lilo.conf. :/If I install a system update I get a new kernel (from the update) and Istill can boot all the other pre-existing ones. If I compile my own in thebest case scenario I get a lot of mismatch by modules or not boot at all?!?It looks like it overwrites some of my existing kernel and/or modules, butonly if I compile it myself. :/So the old entries are still available at boot, but the boot doesn't workright. :/Can someone clear it up for me what am I doing wrong? I mean how the heckcan I compile my own so in case it fails at boot at least to get the optionto boot the old working one?Best regards,AdrianWant to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.comYahoo! Móviles
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Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 09:23, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> SIGH...   I recently noticed that all my users' home directories had 755
> permissions...  changed this to 700 and now it's back to 755...  What's
> the point of separate userids if msec allows each user to read another's
> directory??
> 
> Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...?  If not, then I don't care
> to continue with msec on my systems:  rpm -e msec  &&  chmod 700 /home
> 
> 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ grep home /usr/share/msec/perm.* | grep 755
/usr/share/msec/perm.0:/home/  root.root   755
/usr/share/msec/perm.0:/home/* current 755
/usr/share/msec/perm.1:/home/  root.root   755
/usr/share/msec/perm.1:/home/* current 755
/usr/share/msec/perm.2:/home/  root.root   755
/usr/share/msec/perm.2:/home/* current 755
/usr/share/msec/perm.3:/home/  root.root   755

So run in 4 or 5 and suffer the problems there, or fix it in
/etc/security/msec/perm.local with
/home/* current 700

It's probably 755 so that you won't get annoying "no permissions" pop
ups when navigating your filesystem with a GUI filemanager. I agree that
it should be 750 (group membership is a good thing), but removing the
msec tool is analogous to turning off the firewall instead of
reconfiguring it because it doesn't let you do something.

Of course, lots of people on this list seem to do that to, so who am I
kidding :-) Reminds me of that quote about how Unix won't stop you from
hurting yourself if that's what you really want to do.

Interestingly enough, that same command on another MDK9.0 system gives
another two perm levels:
/usr/share/msec/perm.4:/home/   root.adm   751
/usr/share/msec/perm.4:/home/*  current700
/usr/share/msec/perm.5:/home/   root.root  711
/usr/share/msec/perm.5:/home/*  current700

The first machine was upgraded from 8.2, the second was a clean install
of 9.0.
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[expert] Borked printer setup...Kcontrol wont let me fix it

2003-03-07 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I errantly added a printer via kcontrol (administration mode).  The printer 
name appears whenever I start up the print manager from kcontrol and I can 
click on it as a user, but if I click on it as administrator, the printer 
manager locks up.  I want to delete this printer but I can find no way to do 
so.  Its existence appears to be screwing up any and all printing on my 
system.  I have looked for it in /var/spool/cups and /var/spool/lpd - where I 
intended to wipe it out manually, but I cannot find it.  Where would this 
thing be listed so I can go in and delete it manually from the CLI?

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won'tboot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
Hi Adrian, man you got me, I have clue no longer but testing another
memory module taken borrowed from a friend or somenthing.

I hope you can solve your problem.

Good luck.

Cheers,

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> ASUS A7V8X motherboard. I didn't change anything in config between the
> installation of new module and linux not functioning anymore.
> I do run winblows 2000 professional (dual boot) as it is the only way to
> play some games for now. I am still fiddling with wine and winex so I can
> throw windoze away, but untill my radeon 9700 pro and my mobo will have
> appropriate drivers which would allow me to rund opengl and dri games I have
> to stick with the M$ fscked OS. :(
> The modules of memory are both 512MB PC333 DDR at CL 2.5
> The only difference is that one is noname and one is Samsung. They are in
> theory compatible (same speed, both have EEPROM with the module related info
> and both CL2.5). That meaning I can run anything I want in winbloze without
> no crash (also if I start all the applications I can think of just to make
> the memory fill) and running memtest86 installed on a floppy for 3.5 hours
> (>3 complete test cycles) didn't show any errors and no crash or freeze. I
> also swapped the modules in the slots untill I ran out of combinations and
> still no crash in windows or error in tests, but still no go with linux
> (including installer). :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian

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---
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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won'tboot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva
Maybe Joerg had point the right problem.  I was just wondering if you
could get a 1Gb memory module to test and could so discard any possibility
of being the mobo the origin of your problems.

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> Also I checked and mem=960M doesn't help and the enterprise kernel has same
> problem. I tried lowering the mem value even further and with 900 didn't
> work. With 800 it worked (both distro kernel and enterprise). :/
>
> > Here is an answer I got from someone trying to help. If there is a fault
> in
> > high-mem maybe someone could fix this before the release?
> >
> > On the other hand, Joerg since you seem to know more about this problem,
> > could you post it as a bug in the mandrake bugzilla?
> >
> > I would really like to see this thing fixed before the release or this
> > release will be useless to me. :(
> >
> > Thanx Joerg for the info.
> >
> > > Hi Mate,
> > >
> > > the problem is known (Well, to me at least).
> > > Give at the command line mem=960M and the problem should go away. It's
> the
> > > High-mem stuff that is faulty. I did circumvent that problem in the past
> > > this way. I had recompiled my own kernel, but don't know what patch I
> > > added by that time to fix it (Having a Netserver LH4 with 2 GByte of Ram
> > > and Raid5).

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---
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Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?

2003-03-07 Thread J.P. Pasnak

Pierre Fortin said:

> SIGH...   I recently noticed that all my users' home directories had 755
> permissions...  changed this to 700 and now it's back to 755...  What's
> the point of separate userids if msec allows each user to read another's
> directory??
>
> Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...?  If not, then I don't care
> to continue with msec on my systems:  rpm -e msec  &&  chmod 700 /home
>

msec works exactly as it should, and I doubt they will change the defaults
because of people not knowing how to use it.

Learn how to edit '/usr/share/msec/perm.x' or create a custom permission
file with drakperm.

Also, read this article: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php
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You're sucking up my bandwidth.

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Adrian Golumbovici
Please do test it if you can borrow a 512MB module. If it really is a bug it
should be fixed before release. I would be happy if anyone can help confirm
the bug. For me I need to pass mem=800M also for enterprise kernel and still
cannot install/upgrade anything because of it. :(

Best regards,
Adrian
- Original Message -
From: "Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't
boot and also installer doesn't work anymore


Hi Adrian, man you got me, I have clue no longer but testing another
memory module taken borrowed from a friend or somenthing.

I hope you can solve your problem.

Good luck.

Cheers,

On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:

> ASUS A7V8X motherboard. I didn't change anything in config between the
> installation of new module and linux not functioning anymore.
> I do run winblows 2000 professional (dual boot) as it is the only way to
> play some games for now. I am still fiddling with wine and winex so I can
> throw windoze away, but untill my radeon 9700 pro and my mobo will have
> appropriate drivers which would allow me to rund opengl and dri games I
have
> to stick with the M$ fscked OS. :(
> The modules of memory are both 512MB PC333 DDR at CL 2.5
> The only difference is that one is noname and one is Samsung. They are in
> theory compatible (same speed, both have EEPROM with the module related
info
> and both CL2.5). That meaning I can run anything I want in winbloze
without
> no crash (also if I start all the applications I can think of just to make
> the memory fill) and running memtest86 installed on a floppy for 3.5 hours
> (>3 complete test cycles) didn't show any errors and no crash or freeze. I
> also swapped the modules in the slots untill I ran out of combinations and
> still no crash in windows or error in tests, but still no go with linux
> (including installer). :(
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian

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---
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 12:27 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> I have been struggling with a problem on my machine since I
> reformatted and reinstalled Mandrake 9.0.
>
> Basically, anytime I attempt to rip a CD, my mouse goes absolutely
> bonkers.
>
> I run KDE 3.1 for my desktop, and rip CDs with Grip. I have run using
> my CDRW drive and my DVD/CD drive. I have tried cdparanoia at command
> line and I have tried cdda2wav to rip the tracks.
>
> Everything seems to lead to a problem with the mouse.
>
> I have checked IRQ conflicts, and the mouse resides on 12 and the
> drives (ide-scsi) are shown to not have IRQs.
>
> Any ideas? I am at a loss, and the original installation of Mandrake
> 9.0 did not have this problem.

Have you changed any of the dma settings for your burner.  Mandrake 9.0 turned 
them off by default, and I am thinking the high cpu utilization of not using 
dma is causing the mouse to missfire.
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Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 06:40, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual property
> infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's actions are NOT
> good for Linux or open source, and we the community should not stand for it.
> PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO and its products. See our
> front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for details. We ask that you spread
> the word on this boycott -- if enough people listen to the call and boycott
> their products, hopefully SCO will realise that their actions are doing them
> more harm than good.


problem with the boycott they wouldn't notice it...nobody buys the
antiques they have anyway. * evil grin *

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[expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
I have 384M of RAM and I'm using VMWare. Currently I give it 128M to
play with, which because of that shared memory tmpfs Solaris-like voodoo
is implemented under /tmp.

For whatever reason, my system has set a maximum size of 188M on /tmp.

Since upgrading (downgrading) my VMWare image from W98 to W2k, I'd like
to increase the amount of memory it has to work with -- however, if I go
past 128M it rapidly fills up /tmp and VMWare barfs.

How can I increase the amount of tmpfs space in /tmp? 

Failing that, why the tmpfs voodoo and is there anything wrong with
blowing it away and using plain old fashioned disk space for /tmp?

thanks,
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Re: [expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread Tibor Pittich
On 07. mar 2003, 11:24, Jack Coates wrote:

> How can I increase the amount of tmpfs space in /tmp? 

check your kernel documentation:
/usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt

...
tmpfs has a couple of mount options:

size:  The limit of allocated bytes for this tmpfs instance. The
   default is half of your physical RAM without swap. If you
   oversize your tmpfs instances the machine will deadlock
   since the OOM handler will not be able to free that memory.
...

this parameter you can use with mount command, or add into fstab
where is defined /tmp mountpoint



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Re: [expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 11:31, Tibor Pittich wrote:
> On 07. mar 2003, 11:24, Jack Coates wrote:
> 
> > How can I increase the amount of tmpfs space in /tmp? 
> 
> check your kernel documentation:
> /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
> 
> ...
> tmpfs has a couple of mount options:
> 
> size:  The limit of allocated bytes for this tmpfs instance. The
>default is half of your physical RAM without swap. If you
>oversize your tmpfs instances the machine will deadlock
>since the OOM handler will not be able to free that memory.
> ...
> 
> this parameter you can use with mount command, or add into fstab
> where is defined /tmp mountpoint

Hm. I have issues with the idea of deadlocking because I used too much
memory, and tmpfs mounting as /tmp looks like a good idea (though still
voodoo -- I'm actually just annoyed by it because I once downloaded some
Solaris upgrade packages into /tmp and had them deleted by a reboot :-)

There might be something I can do in VMware with host reserved memory,
or I'll look at reducing Win2K's memory footprint some more.

thanks,
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Rob Blomquist

> > Any ideas? I am at a loss, and the original installation of
> > Mandrake 9.0 did not have this problem.
>
> Have you changed any of the dma settings for your burner.  Mandrake
> 9.0 turned them off by default, and I am thinking the high cpu
> utilization of not using dma is causing the mouse to missfire.

How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD drive? 
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RE: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread Franki
maybe we should be doing the opposite, and supporting IBM in this.. they are
after all the biggest company promoting and helping the linux movement..

sell, IBM products and services and let them know we are on their side in
this one...


rgds

Franki

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Sent: Saturday, 8 March 2003 3:20 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX


On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 06:40, Sridhar Dhanapalan wrote:
> SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual
property
> infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux. SCO's actions are
NOT
> good for Linux or open source, and we the community should not stand for
it.
> PCLinuxOnline has decided to respond by boycotting SCO and its products.
See our
> front page [http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] for details. We ask that you
spread
> the word on this boycott -- if enough people listen to the call and
boycott
> their products, hopefully SCO will realise that their actions are doing
them
> more harm than good.


problem with the boycott they wouldn't notice it...nobody buys the
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Ronald J. Hall
On Friday 07 March 2003 03:09 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:

> How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD drive?

You can use hdparm to do this. Great little utility. (I'm assuming you do have 
IDE and not SCSI drives, right?).

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Re: [expert] Linux Mail Servers for Win clients

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Dave Seff wrote on Thu, Mar 06, 2003 at 10:13:59PM -0500 :

> On this topic, does anybody know of any project that aims to be a
> drop-in replacement for exchange? I run an all Linux IT shop EXCEXT for
> Exchange because our sales people are literally attached to the hip with
> Blackberries. If there is a project out there that looks to do exchange
> to the letter (ldap, mapi, pop, imap, yada yada . .) That will get
> people's attention. Especially mine. 

There is nothing that is a drop in replacement.  There are several paths
that provide varying degrees of bumpiness during migration, but none of
them are drop in replacements.

If you're starting from scratch, it's not too difficult, but if you've
got to migrate a bunch of information, you're looking at pain and agony.

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Re: [expert] OK, what am I doing wrong when compiling a new kernel?!?

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Carlos Cifuentes wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:41:25PM +0100 :
>  lilo
>  Everything  works fine, but beside the new compiled kernel I cannot
>  boot any
>  other pre-existing kernel in my lilo.conf. :/

I answered this one already I thought.

The issue is that lilo.conf is defined to use /boot/vmlinuz by default.
/boot/vmlinuz is a symlink to the current highest installed version.  So
when you install a new version, that symlink gets changed to point to
the NEW one, leaving nothing pointing at the old one.

The fix for this is to use the full file name in lilo.conf (ie
/boot/vmlinuz-2.4.19-16mdk instead of just /boot/vmlinuz).

Make sure to run lilo after making the changes in lilo.conf.

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:23 am, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> Also I checked and mem=960M doesn't help and the enterprise kernel has same
> problem. I tried lowering the mem value even further and with 900 didn't
> work. With 800 it worked (both distro kernel and enterprise). :/
>
> Best regards,
> Adrian
> - Original Message -
> From: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 6:07 PM
> Subject: Fw: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
> won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
>
> > Here is an answer I got from someone trying to help. If there is a fault
>
> in
>
> > high-mem maybe someone could fix this before the release?
> >
> > On the other hand, Joerg since you seem to know more about this problem,
> > could you post it as a bug in the mandrake bugzilla?
> >
> > I would really like to see this thing fixed before the release or this
> > release will be useless to me. :(
> >
> > Thanx Joerg for the info.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Adrian
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Joerg Mertin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Adrian Golumbovici" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 3:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux
>
> won't
>
> > boot and also installer doesn't work anymore
> >
> > > Hi Mate,
> > >
> > > the problem is known (Well, to me at least).
> > > Give at the command line mem=960M and the problem should go away. It's
>
> the
>
> > > High-mem stuff that is faulty. I did circumvent that problem in the
> > > past this way. I had recompiled my own kernel, but don't know what
> > > patch I added by that time to fix it (Having a Netserver LH4 with 2
> > > GByte of Ram and Raid5).
> > >
> > > Maybe you can post this to the list - my E-Mail address is somehow
> > > blacklisted at the moment.
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > Joerg
> > >
> > > On Fri, 7 Mar 2003, Adrian Golumbovici wrote:
> > > > :/
> > > >
> > > > I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my
>
> linux
>
> > > > won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> > > > either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error
>
> found.
>
> > > > Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just
>
> loads
>
> > > > lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and
> > > > doesn't
> >
> > react
> >
> > > > to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> > > > continuously. :(
> > > >
> > > > At first I thought my installation is broken and tried to start the
> >
> > linux
> >
> > > > install from CD again and do an upgrade so it would reinstall the
> >
> > kernel.
> >
> > > > When starting the installer same problem. It loads the first screen
>
> OK,
>
> > but
> >
> > > > whatever option for the installer I select it still freezes with
> > > > those
> >
> > leds
> >
> > > > blinking. :( I even tried passing mem=1024M as parameter just to make
> >
> > sure,
> >
> > > > but still no go. :( I thought the current releases of the kernel
>
> handled
>
> > OK
> >
> > > > up to 1Gig of ram. As far as I remember you needed compiled support
> > > > in
> >
> > it
> >
> > > > only for >1G ram. Also as far as I remember having more memory than
> >
> > linux
> >
> > > > kernel can handle produced no freeze. It just showed and used less
>
> than
>
> > you
> >
> > > > have. :( Please help. :(
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > Adrian
> > >
> > > --
> > > ---
> > >-
> > >
> > > | Joerg Mertin  :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]   
> > > | (Home)| in Neuchâtel/Schweiz  :  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
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> > > | 54   |
> > >
> > > ---
> > >- Home-Page: http://www.solsys.org
>
> ---
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>
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If it worked with 800 it IS a damnable broken BIOS.  My guess is that Win2K 
will fail when it tries to use all of memory as well because it also believes 
the BIOS about bridge mappings, but of course that won't happen until windows 
has to use more than 800M.

Civileme

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Re: [expert] rpm appears screwed...how to fix?

2003-03-07 Thread Luca Olivetti
Praedor Atrebates wrote:

Ultimately, I rebooted after all this.  I then found that root and user were 
able to query the database and install rpms again.  At this point I don't 
know if my repeated --rebuilddb attempts actually worked but stalled before 
closing the process or what, but it is working again for now.
Most probably the database was locked by an rpm -Va issued by msec

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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Miark
> On Friday 07 March 2003 03:09 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> 
> > How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD drive?
> 

hdparm -d1 /dev/hdX

as root where X is the letter of your drive. And put it in some suitable
place, like /etc/rc.local although I remember Tom suggesting a better spot
some time ago.

By the way, if you want to know whether it's turned on to begin with, 
drop the "1" (hdparm -d /dev/hdd).

Miark


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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C
Can one check one's self in after misusing "rm -rf"?
;-)
Jim C wrote:

Arrgh!  Half the people I know belong there! ;-)
Bill Mullen wrote:

On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote:
There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering!
http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml

;)

(Bit of an old link, but I just tripped over it the other day - and a
quite hilarious site overall, pity the author no longer updates it.)




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Re: [expert] OK, what am I doing wrong when compiling a new kernel?!?

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C
Try this, dude:
http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/kernel.html
It is a nice little Kernel rebuild HOWTO that includes lilo.



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Re: [expert] cron & tar

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C
This script work without any errors when run from the command line (only 
fails when run as a cron task)
Have you checked your non-intereactive environment?
Write short script that dumps the output of the "env" command to a file 
and then put it into cron.

Next, examine the contents of the file and compare them with the output 
of the same command when entered at the command line.

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Re: [expert] Sorry all

2003-03-07 Thread Jim C
Bless you, my son.
You are forgiven. ;-)
I even have a certificate from the ULC that says I can forgive 
others sins. ;-)

Seems I'm double posting my replies I'm running the latest Cooker
here and trying to figure out why it's started this all of the sudden...
Please forgive me...



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Re: [expert] net_monitor

2003-03-07 Thread diego
Consolehelper is a program that makes you enter root/admin/... password
before executing the program itself. There are programs that need to be
run with more priviledges and this is like a graphical version of
sudo...


El jue, 06-03-2003 a las 20:42, Brian escribió:
> I just had some strange behavior on my system.
> 
> I noticed that net_monitor was not working.  I went into /usr/sbin and sure 
> enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called /usr/bin/consolehelper and 
> there was a working version of net_monitor called net_monitor.real.
> 
> I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real net_monitor and 
> all is well.  Anyone have this problem or know why it may have occurred?
> 
> Brian
> 
> 
> 

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Re: [expert] Re:[OT] Copernic equivalent for Linux?!? ... now we'retalking search fundamentals!

2003-03-07 Thread Miark
Anne,

At Google, use a minus to exclude words, and the word OR. AND is otherwise
implied. For example:

music "download now" -"media player" ogg OR mp3 -microsoft 

would look for downloadable music MP3s or OGGs, but exclude any pages touting 
Media Player or Microshaft.

Miark
 


On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:26:08 +
Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Side issue - when I first used the Internet you could ask a search engine for
> 
> term_a AND (term_b OR term_c) Not term_d
> 
> These days I can't find any way of excluding the thousands of refs that I know 
> will come and be irrelevant.  Any suggestions, anyone?

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Re: [expert] net_monitor

2003-03-07 Thread Brian
For some reason, it was not prompting me to enter su password nor was it 
launching net_monitor.  I had fears of a rootkit, despite what chkrootkit 
returned, so I did an MD5 checksum and there were inconsistencies.  I wiped 
the root partition and restored a safe backup.  All is well, although I plan 
to review my system security to avoid this in the future.

Brian

On Friday 07 March 2003 02:35 pm, diego wrote:
> Consolehelper is a program that makes you enter root/admin/... password
> before executing the program itself. There are programs that need to be
> run with more priviledges and this is like a graphical version of
> sudo...
>
> El jue, 06-03-2003 a las 20:42, Brian escribió:
> > I just had some strange behavior on my system.
> >
> > I noticed that net_monitor was not working.  I went into /usr/sbin and
> > sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called
> > /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor
> > called net_monitor.real.
> >
> > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real
> > net_monitor and all is well.  Anyone have this problem or know why it may
> > have occurred?
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > 
> >
> >
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[expert] finding security holes

2003-03-07 Thread Leonardo



i've just finished setting up a mdk9.0 server with 
postfix, mailman, iptables and apache. Things are going fine, but I would like 
to know how can I detect any security breaches on my system to prevent possible 
hacker invasions. I've been using the netstat command but there should be 
others...
 
Thanks in advance,
Leonardo Sá
Recife, Brazil


Re: [expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 11:41, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 11:31, Tibor Pittich wrote:
> > On 07. mar 2003, 11:24, Jack Coates wrote:
> > 
> > > How can I increase the amount of tmpfs space in /tmp? 
> > 
> > check your kernel documentation:
> > /usr/src/linux/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
> > 
> > ...
> > tmpfs has a couple of mount options:
> > 
> > size:  The limit of allocated bytes for this tmpfs instance. The
> >default is half of your physical RAM without swap. If you
> >oversize your tmpfs instances the machine will deadlock
> >since the OOM handler will not be able to free that memory.
> > ...
> > 
> > this parameter you can use with mount command, or add into fstab
> > where is defined /tmp mountpoint
> 
> Hm. I have issues with the idea of deadlocking because I used too much
> memory, and tmpfs mounting as /tmp looks like a good idea (though still
> voodoo -- I'm actually just annoyed by it because I once downloaded some
> Solaris upgrade packages into /tmp and had them deleted by a reboot :-)

Jack is your lilo set to clean /tmp on reboot?  
> 
> There might be something I can do in VMware with host reserved memory,
> or I'll look at reducing Win2K's memory footprint some more.
> 
> thanks,


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Re: [expert] net_monitor

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 14:45, Brian wrote:
> For some reason, it was not prompting me to enter su password nor was it 
> launching net_monitor.  I had fears of a rootkit, despite what chkrootkit 
> returned, so I did an MD5 checksum and there were inconsistencies.  I wiped 
> the root partition and restored a safe backup.  All is well, although I plan 
> to review my system security to avoid this in the future.
> 
> Brian

Sounds like it may have just been file corruption rather than a planned
attack...
> 
> On Friday 07 March 2003 02:35 pm, diego wrote:
> > Consolehelper is a program that makes you enter root/admin/... password
> > before executing the program itself. There are programs that need to be
> > run with more priviledges and this is like a graphical version of
> > sudo...
> >
> > El jue, 06-03-2003 a las 20:42, Brian escribió:
> > > I just had some strange behavior on my system.
> > >
> > > I noticed that net_monitor was not working.  I went into /usr/sbin and
> > > sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called
> > > /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor
> > > called net_monitor.real.
> > >
> > > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real
> > > net_monitor and all is well.  Anyone have this problem or know why it may
> > > have occurred?
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > 
> > >
> > >
> > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
> > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
> 
> 
> 
> __
> 
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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 14:07, Jim C wrote:
> Can one check one's self in after misusing "rm -rf"?
> ;-)

Well then heck none of us would be on the outside. PS about 4
months ago my 2 year old taught himself this command you know the
random monkey syndrome.  Now I make sure I'm logged out before I leave
the house.

James

> 
> Jim C wrote:
> > 
> > Arrgh!  Half the people I know belong there! ;-)
> > 
> > Bill Mullen wrote:
> > 
> >> On Thu, 2003-03-06 at 12:45, Vox wrote:
> >> There is hope that we can now someday end the (mutual) suffering!
> >>
> >> http://www.satirewire.com/features/siliconpines/acf.shtml
> >>
> >> ;)
> >>
> >> (Bit of an old link, but I just tripped over it the other day - and a
> >> quite hilarious site overall, pity the author no longer updates it.)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 
> >>
> >> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to 
> >> http://www.mandrakestore.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> __
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 12:16, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 07 March 2003 03:09 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> 
> > How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD drive?
> 
> You can use hdparm to do this. Great little utility. (I'm assuming you do have 
> IDE and not SCSI drives, right?).

Speaking of which... does anyone know what happened to drivetweak-gtk?  

James



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Re: [expert] net_monitor

2003-03-07 Thread Brian
Yeah, I couldn't rule that out.  I'm behind a firewall, but there were simply 
a lot of oddities in the way my system was operating.  I could have taken a 
month to track them all down, repair everything and learn a whole lot in the 
process, or I could start with a relatively clean slate. I'm busy so I chose 
the latter.

Brian


On Friday 07 March 2003 06:22 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 14:45, Brian wrote:
> > For some reason, it was not prompting me to enter su password nor was it
> > launching net_monitor.  I had fears of a rootkit, despite what chkrootkit
> > returned, so I did an MD5 checksum and there were inconsistencies.  I
> > wiped the root partition and restored a safe backup.  All is well,
> > although I plan to review my system security to avoid this in the future.
> >
> > Brian
>
> Sounds like it may have just been file corruption rather than a planned
> attack...
>
> > On Friday 07 March 2003 02:35 pm, diego wrote:
> > > Consolehelper is a program that makes you enter root/admin/... password
> > > before executing the program itself. There are programs that need to be
> > > run with more priviledges and this is like a graphical version of
> > > sudo...
> > >
> > > El jue, 06-03-2003 a las 20:42, Brian escribió:
> > > > I just had some strange behavior on my system.
> > > >
> > > > I noticed that net_monitor was not working.  I went into /usr/sbin
> > > > and sure enough net_monitor was now a link to a file called
> > > > /usr/bin/consolehelper and there was a working version of net_monitor
> > > > called net_monitor.real.
> > > >
> > > > I renamed net_monitor to net_monitor.bak and restored the real
> > > > net_monitor and all is well.  Anyone have this problem or know why it
> > > > may have occurred?
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
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> >
> > __
> >
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Re: [expert] www.TrueMajority.com

2003-03-07 Thread David Guntner
Adolfo ortiz grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

[A bunch of unrelated stuff]

Oh god, *this* again

And exactly what makes you think that this has anything at all to do with 
Linux, let alone Mandrake Linux.

Everything in its place.  This is not a political mailing list.  Had I 
*wanted* to be on a political mailing list, I would have joined one.

And I'm pretty sure the last time you posted this, it was requested of you 
that you don't do so in the future

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Re: [expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread Jack Coates
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 15:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
...
> Jack is your lilo set to clean /tmp on reboot?  
> >

er, kind of irrelevant with tmpfs :-)
> m
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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Rob Blomquist
On Friday 07 March 2003 12:16 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> On Friday 07 March 2003 03:09 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD
> > drive?
>
> You can use hdparm to do this. Great little utility. (I'm assuming
> you do have IDE and not SCSI drives, right?).

My two CD drives are ATAPI CD-RW and ATAPI DVD/CD-R

They are both mounted as ide-scsi so that they could be seen my 
x-cd-roast., I have given up with that utility, as it could not see 
my IDE HD.

Can hdparm handle the ide-scsi mountings? The two drives are on my 
system as /dev/scd0 (/dev/cdrom, CD-RW) and /dev/scd1(/dev/cdrom2, 
DVD/CD).

Rob
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it said 'Requires Windows 95 or better'. So I installed Linux and 
lived
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Re: [expert] www.TrueMajority.com

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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> Oh god, *this* again

Chill guys.  He was booted from the list within minutes of having sent
that.

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Re: [expert] Mouse goes nuts

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 07:16 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> On Friday 07 March 2003 12:16 pm, Ronald J. Hall wrote:
> > On Friday 07 March 2003 03:09 pm, Rob Blomquist wrote:
> > > How does one change the DMA settings of the burner, and DVD
> > > drive?
> >
> > You can use hdparm to do this. Great little utility. (I'm assuming
> > you do have IDE and not SCSI drives, right?).
>
> My two CD drives are ATAPI CD-RW and ATAPI DVD/CD-R
>
> They are both mounted as ide-scsi so that they could be seen my
> x-cd-roast., I have given up with that utility, as it could not see
> my IDE HD.
>
> Can hdparm handle the ide-scsi mountings? The two drives are on my
> system as /dev/scd0 (/dev/cdrom, CD-RW) and /dev/scd1(/dev/cdrom2,
> DVD/CD).
>
> Rob

I followed the instructions in /etc/sysconfig/harddisks to enable dma on my 
optical drives, and yes, one of them is set for scsi emulation and it works 
just fine.
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Re: [expert] How to check for open ports?

2003-03-07 Thread Vox

This time Jim C <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
becomes daring and writes:

> 
> Arrgh!  Half the people I know belong there! ;-)

  Only half? :)

  Vox

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Re: [expert] samb file permission

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Ken Walker wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:35:05AM - :
> Your force create mode = 660 is only going to give you __wx_wx___, in other
> words, the creator can only write and execute ( or get access to a folder )

330 is --wx-wx---
660 is -rw rw

> create mode = 750
> This will give the creator full access to the files and read only to members
> of the group.

Not necessarily, look at his force lines.

> I don't think you need the leading 0, it might be causing more problems such
> as being read as 066
> ps that 's' looks very interesting, cos i think it should be a 'x'

Setting a directory sgid bit makes it such that any new directory is
owned by the same group.  The best way to explain is with an example:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ id
uid=501(todd) gid=501(todd) groups=501(todd),43(usb)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ vdir -d tlyons/
drwxr-xr-x2 todd usb 6 Mar  7 16:27 tlyons/
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ mkdir tlyons/test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ vdir -d tlyons/test
drwxr-xr-x2 todd todd0 Mar  7 16:28 tlyons/test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ rmdir tlyons/test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ chmod g+s tlyons
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ mkdir tlyons/test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ vdir -d tlyons/test
drwxr-sr-x2 todd usb 0 Mar  7 16:28 tlyons/test
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ touch tlyons/test/duh
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~/tmp]$ vdir tlyons/test/duh
- -rw-r--r--1 todd usb 0 Mar  7 16:33 tlyons/test/duh

That would make the force create mask be 2660.  

The same applies for the suid bit except that the owner will always be
the same owner.  Then there's the sticky bit (aka the temp bit), but
it is NOT useful here, rather it's counterproductive.

Any good linux book explains file and directory permissions and how they
affect the creation of files and subdirectories.  A good one is "Using
Linux" published by Que Publishing.  It's my personal favorite.

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Re: [expert] /tmp size

2003-03-07 Thread James Sparenberg
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 15:36, Jack Coates wrote:
> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 15:20, James Sparenberg wrote:
> ...
> > Jack is your lilo set to clean /tmp on reboot?  
> > >
> 
> er, kind of irrelevant with tmpfs :-)

ooops missed that part sorry. (heads to coffee machine pushes mud
button)  I'll be coherent in a few minutes here.
> > m


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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Adrian Golumbovici wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 11:30:00AM +0100 :

> I just bought another 512MB DDR PC333 module for my PC and now my linux
> won't boot anymore. I tried an update from CD, installer doesn't work
> either. Memory just went through a 3 hours memtest86 and no error found.
> Windows handles it OK (I have a dual boot with Win2k pro). It just loads
> lilo, but when selecting linux it goes into a black screen and doesn't react
> to any commands. The Scroll lock and Caps lock leds are blinking
> continuously. :(

Probably not a useful question, but is it at the rate of 1/2 second per
blink?

If you look at the /usr/src/linux/kernel/panic.c file, you'll see that
something failed and called the panic_blink() function.  It's a function
that never stops.  The panic_blink() function is actually defined in
/usr/src/linux/drivers/char/pc_keyb.c and it just alternates the mode of
the 0x01 and 0x04 bits, which are Scroll Lock and Caps Lock
respectively.

Now what called that is quite possibly something that is going to be a
lot more difficult to find out.  Try passing 'noapic noacpi nodma
ide0=nodma nomce acpi=off pci=biosirq' and see if _something_ happens.

Basically the linux kernel has a VERY big problem with your motherboard.

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Re: [expert] [OT] SCO sues IBM over Linux and UNIX

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Jack Coates wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 08:55:41AM -0800 :

> > SCO has decided to sue IBM for $US1 billion for alleged intellectual
> > property infringement regarding IBM's contributions to GNU/Linux.
> They are of course shooting themselves with this action... however, I

Here's the point that I think all of you are not getting.  They don't
*CARE* if they shoot themselves in the foot.  They get their billion
dollars, get out of town, and live on the small island they just
bought.  They are in it solely for the money, consumers be damned.

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Re: [expert] new memory 512MB module (total 1024MB) and linux won't boot and also installer doesn't work anymore

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Lyons
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Adrian Golumbovici wrote on Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 06:23:13PM +0100 :
> Also I checked and mem=960M doesn't help and the enterprise kernel has same
> problem. I tried lowering the mem value even further and with 900 didn't
> work. With 800 it worked (both distro kernel and enterprise). :/

The actual crossover point is 896 Megs (or 892, I can never remember).

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Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?

2003-03-07 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 07 Mar 2003 09:42:49 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Jack, Thanks for the info... but I just gotta rant about msec... :>

> On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 09:23, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> > SIGH...   I recently noticed that all my users' home directories had
> > 755 permissions...  changed this to 700 and now it's back to 755... 
> > What's the point of separate userids if msec allows each user to read
> > another's directory??
> > 
> > Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...?  If not, then I don't
> > care to continue with msec on my systems:  rpm -e msec  &&  chmod 700
> > /home
> > 
> > 
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ grep home /usr/share/msec/perm.* | grep 755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/home/  root.root   755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.0:/home/* current 755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/home/  root.root   755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.1:/home/* current 755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/home/  root.root   755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.2:/home/* current 755
> /usr/share/msec/perm.3:/home/  root.root   755
> 
> So run in 4 or 5 and suffer the problems there, or fix it in
> /etc/security/msec/perm.local with
> /home/*   current 700
> 
> It's probably 755 so that you won't get annoying "no permissions" pop
> ups when navigating your filesystem with a GUI filemanager. I agree that
> it should be 750 (group membership is a good thing), but removing the
> msec tool is analogous to turning off the firewall instead of
> reconfiguring it because it doesn't let you do something.

I removed shorewall for several reasons -- mainly cuz it killed everything
without ever letting me know it was in the picture...  

> Of course, lots of people on this list seem to do that to, so who am I
> kidding :-) Reminds me of that quote about how Unix won't stop you from
> hurting yourself if that's what you really want to do.

In this case, I *want* 700...  no sane automated "security" system should
ever *reduce* security levels setup by the owner...  it's downright nasty
IMNSHO... 

> Interestingly enough, that same command on another MDK9.0 system gives
> another two perm levels:
> /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/home/   root.adm   751
> /usr/share/msec/perm.4:/home/*  current700
> /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/home/   root.root  711
> /usr/share/msec/perm.5:/home/*  current700
> 
> The first machine was upgraded from 8.2, the second was a clean install
> of 9.0.

Interesting... mine was upgraded from 8.2 and another was fresh installed
-- both get changed to 755...


msec should check existing permissions when run; if they are tighter than
what would be set, LEAVE THEM ALONE *AND* RECORD the settings as the
MINIMUM for the current level -- in other words, if /home/* are 700 at
level 3, the user tries level 4, and goes back to 3, the perms should
still be 700!

NEVER EVER reduce security levels set by the owner!  It's downright
irresponsible...  and NO, telling the users to add local rules after lower
their security is not acceptable -- fix the logic!


Anyway, I take it this will still happen in 9.1?

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Re: [expert] msec fixed in 9.1?

2003-03-07 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:09:20 -0600 (CST) "J.P. Pasnak"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> Pierre Fortin said:
> 
> > SIGH...   I recently noticed that all my users' home directories had
> > 755 permissions...  changed this to 700 and now it's back to 755... 
> > What's the point of separate userids if msec allows each user to read
> > another's directory??
> >
> > Will there be a more secure default in 9.1...?  If not, then I don't
> > care to continue with msec on my systems:  rpm -e msec  &&  chmod 700
> > /home
> >
> 
> msec works exactly as it should, and I doubt they will change the
> defaults because of people not knowing how to use it.
> 
> Learn how to edit '/usr/share/msec/perm.x' or create a custom permission
> file with drakperm.
> 
> Also, read this article: http://www.mandrakesecure.net/en/docs/msec.php

See also the rant inside my reply to Jack...  gratuitously lowering
owner-defined security levels is irresponsible...  trying to shift the
blame to the owner with "local rules" doesn't cut it  I made my local
rules EXplicitly when I made /home/* 700...  Blindly lowering them,
without even asking BTW, is a security violation IMO

It's like your favorite car dealer deciding to replace all the locks and
ignition switches so they're all keyed the same

It's not acceptable IMO to lower security simply because the msec coder is
too lazy to do the Right Thing!


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[expert] How much kmem?

2003-03-07 Thread D. R. Evans
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In a networking program, I am getting an ENOBUFS error return from calls to 
sendto() when trying to pump a large amount of data out.

The documentation for ENOBUFS says that it means that the kernel could not 
allocate sufficient buffer space.

How do I found out how much kernel buffer space is available: 

(a) on my system as a whole? 
(b) to a particular process while it is running?

I've spent quite a bit of time googling around and haven't found anything 
that addresses these questions.

  Doc


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Re: [expert] finding security holes

2003-03-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 March 2003 02:23 pm, Leonardo wrote:
> i've just finished setting up a mdk9.0 server with postfix, mailman,
> iptables and apache. Things are going fine, but I would like to know how
> can I detect any security breaches on my system to prevent possible hacker
> invasions. I've been using the netstat command but there should be
> others...
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Leonardo Sá
> Recife, Brazil

Well your html messages aren't going to get too many answers, cause most folks 
filter them out.  I occasionally scan my trash for list messages, so I saw 
yours.

What you want is to sign up for the security advirories list and stay updated.

If you want a real firewall put it on a machine between you and the net 
connection.  MNF, which is free to download does a wonderful job, and still 
allows you to forward ports your server uses to the server.

Nothing like Norton's Personal Firewall exists which will notify you about 
regular net traffic (remember personal firewall will claim an ftp connection 
on port 21 is the WinCrash trojan cause it sometimes also uses port 21).

You can activate prelude and watch the logs, and you can load chkrootkit, and 
you can compile the kernel specifically for your machine with all modules 
compiled in and none loading, which helps proof against rootkits, but 
remember linux is by nature much much more secure than the best lockdown you 
can put on windows.

Civileme


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Re: [expert] finding security holes

2003-03-07 Thread Leonardo
I'm very sorry!!! I didn't know that i was writting messages in html. I've
had some problems with my home mdk box so i'm using (unfortunately) outlook.
I'll try to figure out if there's any option that can disable the html
format on e-mail messages.

Anyway, thanks for the answer.I can't afford a machine just for firewall...
I'll try to install chrootkit and some tools that i recently discovered
(tripwire, nmap and snort). If you, or anyone, knows urls of docs about
those, please tell me (but i think google is the faster and the best way to
find docs).

Cheers,

Leonardo Sá

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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Subject: Re: [expert] finding security holes


> On Friday 07 March 2003 02:23 pm, Leonardo wrote:
> > i've just finished setting up a mdk9.0 server with postfix, mailman,
> > iptables and apache. Things are going fine, but I would like to know how
> > can I detect any security breaches on my system to prevent possible
hacker
> > invasions. I've been using the netstat command but there should be
> > others...
> >
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Leonardo Sá
> > Recife, Brazil
>
> Well your html messages aren't going to get too many answers, cause most
folks
> filter them out.  I occasionally scan my trash for list messages, so I saw
> yours.
>
> What you want is to sign up for the security advirories list and stay
updated.
>
> If you want a real firewall put it on a machine between you and the net
> connection.  MNF, which is free to download does a wonderful job, and
still
> allows you to forward ports your server uses to the server.
>
> Nothing like Norton's Personal Firewall exists which will notify you about
> regular net traffic (remember personal firewall will claim an ftp
connection
> on port 21 is the WinCrash trojan cause it sometimes also uses port 21).
>
> You can activate prelude and watch the logs, and you can load chkrootkit,
and
> you can compile the kernel specifically for your machine with all modules
> compiled in and none loading, which helps proof against rootkits, but
> remember linux is by nature much much more secure than the best lockdown
you
> can put on windows.
>
> Civileme
>
>
>






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