Re: [expert] Harddrive question
I'm running a Quantum Fireball 10gig. on this machine and a Western Digital 30gig. as backup. :-) vern Vic wrote: I looked on the supported hardware list and I could not find anything about harddrives. I just wondered if Quantum Fireball and Seagate (older 1Gb) drives are supported in 7.1? I also was looking at the cdroms and cdrecorders, if a brand is not listed I take it that it is not supported, but then I saw above that it said something like All ATAPI/mmc compliant drives so that kind of confused me. Any takers? Thanks :)
Re: [expert] Mandrake netscape 4.74?
Thanks to all for the lead on the Cooker server, I had checked there a few days ago, but not lately. I see it was uploaded on the 31st. so I didn't miss it by much. So as you can plainly see my little header says 4.74 the only thing I was looking for was the 128 bit encryption, so I won't get highjacked buying Penguins on Ebay! :-) vern Charles Curley wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2000 at 02:43:25PM -0400, Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon, Jul 31, 2000 at 11:21:03PM -0700, vern wrote: Thanks Vincent! On the way to cooker! Go get it, Vern... =) Now have you got a line on that Carnivore source yet?? Then I'll be all set for Y2K! Carnivore? I think I'm missing something here... No, no, no. If you're luck, it's missing you. :-)
Re: [expert] What's Up With The List Server?
Welcome to the club! About 1 in 10 gets through from here! You may see this and you may not, I replied to both your address and the lists address. vern Sevatio Octavio wrote: What's going on with the list server? Only a small fraction of my posts are getting on the list. The remainder have just disappeared. Seve
[expert] Mandrake netscape 4.74?
Has anyone seen the Netscape ver. 4.74 yet?? I've seen the i386 version at losthope, and wondered if it is worth waiting for the i586 version to come out?? This is almost as much fun as scouring the web for the Carnivore source code!! :-) Maybe we should scan Janet Reno's hard drive, inquiring minds want to know!! vern
Re: [expert] What's Up With The List Server?
Welcome to the club! About 1 in 10 gets through from here! You may see this and you may not, I replied to both your address and the lists address. vern Sevatio Octavio wrote: What's going on with the list server? Only a small fraction of my posts are getting on the list. The remainder have just disappeared. Seve
[expert] Mandrake netscape 4.74?
Has anyone seen the Netscape ver. 4.74 yet?? I've seen the i386 version at losthope, and wondered if it is worth waiting for the i586 version to come out?? This is almost as much fun as scouring the web for the Carnivore source code!! :-) Maybe we should scan Janet Reno's hard drive, inquiring minds want to know!! vern
Re: [expert] Mandrake netscape 4.74?
Thanks Vincent! On the way to cooker! Now have you got a line on that Carnivore source yet?? Then I'll be all set for Y2K! Vern Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun, Jul 30, 2000 at 01:32:30PM -0700, vern wrote: Has anyone seen the Netscape ver. 4.74 yet?? I've seen the i386 version at losthope, and wondered if it is worth waiting for the i586 version to come out?? This is almost as much fun as scouring the web for the Carnivore source code!! :-) Maybe we should scan Janet Reno's hard drive, inquiring minds want to know!! I believe it's in cooker now, and will be made available thru MandrakeUpdate soon. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org Current Linux uptime: 2 days 2 hours 54 minutes.
Re: [expert] OT: harddrive flashback
I learned COBOL in college back in 1968 by using punch cards. You wrote out your lines of code on coding sheets then stood in line to get a turn on the keypunch machine. Then take your bundle of cards to the admin. building basement and submitted your cards to the "computer technician", who ran your program while the machine was idle from doing "real" stuff. Then you went back the next morning an got your printout and found your errors and you tagged your bad lines of code, and then back to the keypunch machine, and on and on. We had an IBM 360 then, it was soon replaced with some Honeywell beast. Ten years later I got my first "personal computer" an Apple ][ with 4K of RAM and an audio cassette recorder to record the programs. My "library of files" consisted of a shoe box of audio cassettes. I worked for Uncle Sam then and had my very own Internet account too, even used it from home a few times with my 300 baud modem with the acoustical coupler (a rubber thingy to stick you phone handset into). I still live in the sticks with a 24K phone line, and waiting for the satellites to get here! :-) vern Mark Weaver wrote: honestly I can't begin to imagine writting a program on punch cards. seems to me that something like that would take literally forever! -- Mark ** Registered Linux user # 182496 **
Re: [expert] Test
WOW! I made it! I may try to resend those 3 or 4 posts from the last few days. I almost thought: "The FBI is reading my mail and I can't get out!!" or "Help! A politician has fallen on me and I can't get up!" :-) vern John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 24 Jul 2000, you wrote: I've tried capital "E's" small "e's" no post yet for about 3 days, I hope I can "hitch a ride" on someone elses email and get through whatever parsing engine that has been enabled! vern Well, I'm seeing your posts here... *shrug*
Re: [expert] Test
I've tried capital "E's" small "e's" no post yet for about 3 days, I hope I can "hitch a ride" on someone elses email and get through whatever parsing engine that has been enabled! vern Brian Schroeder wrote: I haven't seen anything on this list for a few days. It's usually high volume. Am I getting through? Brian. -- -- Brian Schroeder | ,-_|\ Origin Energy Resources Ltd | Only 2 things are infinite, / \ Adelaide Australia | the universe and human stupidity, \_,-*_/ GPO Box 2576 Adelaide 5001 | and I'm not sure about the former. v PH +61 8 8217 5782 | ALBERT EINSTEIN [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] i810 and MDK 7.0
Hi, while not an expert I had my i810 chipset mobo working in Mdk 6.0, by downloading the two files at Intel's website. There is a kernel module agpgart.o file which you need to build, an X server file and a good info file for installing the two in a Redhat based system. I'm running 3.3.6 XFree now under Mdk. 7.1, but I don't know about picking out the XFree rpm from Mdk. 7.1. I have no clue about dependicies and such. Hope this helps a little, I'm now much of an expert. Please excuse the Win98 useage as my "real modem" is in the shop! :-) vern Lang Zhi wrote: Hi. (Posted this yesterday,but it doen't seem to went to the list) How to get i810 workin Mandrake 7.0? Can I use XFree rpm from Mandrake 7.1 and upgrade it? And,which one to use, 3.3.6 or 4.0 ? Thanks -lz Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[expert] Linux file system update?
After adding a new hard drive to my system and creating an ext2fs type partition, how do I add this to my file system table?? I would like to have Mdk 7.1 to start using this partition. I created the partition with PartitionMagic and did not specify a mount point at the time of creation. Do I need to go back into PartionMagic and do this?? Any help with the above would be most appreciated!! vern
[expert] Re: This thing called C
Hello once again all! WOW! Thanks for the great response! I regret having to communicate via Win98 as my Linux modem is in the shop for repairs (I have a spare "real modem" on order too), but for now am on a "Winmodem". I have read all the replies, and they were exactly what I was wanting. I have a couple of ORielly volumes on C/C++ programming, I hope to understand same real soon. This is my second crack at learning computer programming, my first was with my Apple][ in about 1978 or so. I had all of 16K RAM (installed myself), and I recorded my programs (in Apple BASIC) on audio cassettes. I now have as much power as my college had then (almost) an IBM 360 using COBOL. Although I don't have any of the standard accessories: tape drives, card readers, key punch machines, and etc. Thanks for helping an old codger out! vern
[expert] This thing called C.
Hello all, I'm a budding C/C++ coder and have signed up for a class for beginning C/C++ students. All is fine till I get to "Code Warrior" and being of little means, I can only afford to get the "starters version" in Windoze verses the "real version" for Linux that's $49 vs. $90 so I guess I will take a course in Windoze C++. I hope the lessons learned will apply to "Code Crusader" or KDevelop which I already have. Does anyone know of any classes on the Web for Linux?? Is there an "open source University" yet?? vern
Re: [expert] How will this effect Mandrake?
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm glad Mandrake has most of their software repositories in the US, and other countries!! I love Mandrake!! But hey, I also loved Citreonssp? NICE French ^^^ Citroën ^ Hey no fair Chmouel! I don't have that character on my keyboard! Thanks for all your hard work in packageing all those RPMs!! automobiles. -- MandrakeSoft Inchttp://www.mandrakesoft.com San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
[expert] Wheel mouse config??
I have a "standard" wheel mouse which came on my HP Pavilion desktop, and have tried various versions of the wheel mouse profiles supplied with the mouse config section under Mdk. 7.1 with no luck. Is there an alternate was to configure my wheel mouse?? vern
Re: [expert] How will this effect Mandrake?
ALLRIGHT!! I love your sig. on HTML! I'm glad Mandrake has most of their software repositories in the US, and other countries!! I love Mandrake!! But hey, I also loved Citreonssp? NICE French automobiles. vern Jens Benecke wrote: On Thu, Jun 22, 2000 at 05:23:51PM -0400, vern wrote: I read this on freshmeat today and wondered if it will have an impact on the way Mandrake does business? vern subject: Possible Threat to French Open Source Sites added by: jeff covey on Jun 21st 2000, 07:40 category: Editorial I think the only probable outcome will be that French OSS developers will start to relocate their web sites to foreign countries. If that is what the French government wants, to scare away intelligent people ... then be it. -- "The PROPER way to handle HTML postings is to cancel the article, then hire a killer to kill the poster, his wife and kids, and fuck his dog and smash his computer into little bits. Anything more is just extremism." - ptomblin --- Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature
Re: [expert] Wheel mouse config??
Thank you Ken for your reply! vern Ken Archer wrote: I think you will find your answers here: http://www-sop.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/ On Sun, 25 Jun 2000, you wrote: I have a "standard" wheel mouse which came on my HP Pavilion desktop, and have tried various versions of the wheel mouse profiles supplied with the mouse config section under Mdk. 7.1 with no luck. Is there an alternate was to configure my wheel mouse?? vern
[expert] How will this effect Mandrake?
I read this on freshmeat today and wondered if it will have an impact on the way Mandrake does business? vern subject: Possible Threat to French Open Source Sites added by: jeff covey on Jun 21st 2000, 07:40 category: Editorial body: John Fremlin writes: Next week, the French National Assembly will vote on appending a chapter to the law limiting freedom of communication. As written, it would unambiguously prohibit hosting of content of unspecified provenance; that is, sites on which users could post material would be legally obligated to somehow determine the true identities and postal addresses of their users. The free software community is directly affected, as large Open Source projects don't have the requisite information about their contributors and could not legally be made available in France. Incidentally, several Open Source projects are hosted by altern.org (for example, consoletools and all of my programs), which would have to shut down. | http://freshmeat.net/news/2000/06/21/961587656.html
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Civilme and friends: I heard today from a member of Mandrakesoft's staff. It was indeed a bug in the FTP download. It has been fixed and will soon be operational in all the mirror sites. Subject: Re: [Notice] 7.1 -- 2-CD download mystery -- How is it done? Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2000 15:14:03 +0200 (CEST) From: Jean-loup Gailly [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] References: 1 Benjamin wrote: Well, as it turns out, there seems to be NO WAY to download the new Mandrake 7.1 by FTP. Thanks for your report. Response from Jean-loup Gailly: "On the ftp site, the directories RPMS and RPMS2 had been merged but the file hdlists expected them to be separated. I have separated the directories again. This should be soon reflected in the mirror sites." Jean-loup Gailly He further assured me that the FTP floppy download (using network.img) will now automatically switch from the first CD (RPM) to the second CD (RPM2) without a hitch. I would suggest waiting a day or so to be sure that all mirrors are functioning properly. Personally, I was quite disappointed with the 2-CD version I got from LinuxLand. It was what I wanted, so I have no right to complain: 2-cd 7.1 burned from their FTP download. I had so many problems and anomalies that I have decided that from on, no more FTP downloads (except for individual files, where necessary). I have already ordered the OFFICIAL Linux-Mandrake PowerPack 7.0 made by Mandrakesoft (not by Macmillain) from LinuxMall, only $65 overnight delivery (6 CD plus 2 books). Worth every penny. And when LM PowerPack 7.1 comes out in July, I'll get that and every PowerPack upgrade in the future. No more anxiety, no more pulling my hair out, no more wondering whether the FTP download was really successful, plus 100 days of free email support. It's worth my peace of mind. I'll have my 7.0 tomorrow morning, and this madness should finally be over. Well, I am glad I did help Mandrake troubleshoot the download bug. It was a real one, and hopefully will help many others dowload their Mandrake. And thank you for going out of your way to help. In fact, it was you, I believe, who diagnosed the "kpppload" problem. I would have never guessed it. So, you share in the glory of exposing and correcting this fatal FTP download bug. I've asked Jean-loup to send a message to the Mandrake lists informing them of this situation. I hope he does. Benjamin -- Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net
Re: [expert] Helix-update in 7.1
And they are the lucky ones in rural Kentucky we have a blazing 24K wire (intermitant at that). Lucky to have voice lines here! The all knowing "data technician" from BellSouth told me so!! May have to go to the big city and rent a motel room and do an all night download fest! Where are them damn satellites when you need them?? vern Allen Bolderoff wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Don't see a point why the Helixupdate should be included in distribution. maybe not everyone has a T1 to the net? some people (in australia for example) pay for every MB they receive, *and* have to download over 33.6K modems. That in itself is a good enough reason to include it. -- +++ Allen Bolderoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] LNC - Linux, help and commentary http://linux.netnerve.com CTPC - Caffeine - get it here: http://www.coffee-tea-pots-cups.com/ +++ GPG fingerprint = CBB0 8626 702C 3D01 B5AD A54A DC2C 93B7 3E4B 6472 +++
Re: [expert] Promise ATA-66
Well I just added a WD Ultra ATA-66 hard drive to my setup. I have an Intel 810 chipset, am I in trouble?? Not knowing much about hardware timing and all! vern PS. It's on a ASUS mobo that HP hacked for the Pavilion series of PC's, HP also hacked the BIOS so I can't turn off the on board video! :-( Civileme wrote: tal amir wrote: Yes it is :-) Original Message On 6/15/00, 2:35:45 PM, "Cecil Watson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote regarding [expert] Promise ATA-66: Is the Promise ATA-66 supported in 7.1? Thanks in advance, Cecil Yes, it is, BUT ABIT B_6 boards require special LILO settings for their installation on ATA66 to work properly Anything but the newest WD disks will give you all sorts of errors if you set them to DMA/UDMA Some board chipsets do not work well with the PCI controller card. So, knowing those things, prepare for an education in BIOSes and HDDs and Disk controllers if you are in the 40% who need to do special things. Civileme
Re: [expert] where is the Mandrake 7.0 kernel update?!?!?!
Do you mean even if and when we receive our "new" Mandrake 7.1 versions in the mail, we will have to upgrade the kernel??? vern Denis HAVLIK wrote: :~ :~Oh well... At least I've got a copy of mandrake 7.1 coming in the mail... Kind of nice, but you will still have to upgrade the kernel :-( cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- visit our new discusion forum: http://linuxpole.com
Re: [expert] HP Pavilion 6470Z
Civileme, I'm just very thankful I didn't get caught up in the i820 turmoil. My first "new" computer in ten years! HP ain't what it used to be! :-) vern PS It sounds as though I need to steer clear of Xfree 4.0!! Civileme wrote: vern wrote: Same experience here with a HP 6540C, nomo Riptide! I've tripled the RAM, and tripled the HD space. The only thing I had to work at was getting the Intel 810 video to work. Intel has the drivers you need (agpart.o module). Be sure to download the instructions with the module/server/driver type files. Vern Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm looking at potentially installing linux on an HP Pavilion 6470Z and I wanted to know how well Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 load the hardware. Anyone have any install experience with one of these? Don't know about the 6470Z model, but I had it installed on my 4450. Did not get sound/modem to work (Rockwell RipTide combo card -- winmodem crapola) Everything else worked OK though. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life) Vern, you'll love 7.1. No more downloading 810 drivers 7.1 does a marvelous job on i810 except for Xfree4.0 Civileme
Re: [expert] 7.1 bug: FTP download mystery -- Solved!
Okay Alan, thanks! I learn more each day, I hope they will stand behind these disks too. This is my first try with CheapBytes I hope it's not "too good to be true". Thanks again! vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: vernthe cheaper ones are mass produced, usually by an outside contractor and the more expensive ones are burned individually by a CD-R usually in-house. The pre-oder is because of the lead time required by the outside contractor to produce a significant order (don't know how many probably 1000 or more) and ship it to CheapBytes. Alan vern wrote: I have a similar question on Cheapbytes one version is called CDR and the other is just CD, so why the difference?? Also the one you have to preorder and wait for is about half the price of the other. So having much more time than money guess which I sent away for?? vern Alan Shoemaker wrote: Benjaminyou must have assumed that the content of your CD's was downloaded from the web because according to Bryan Kennedy of LinuxLand/Circadian Software, LinuxLand does not ftp the iso's from one of the mirrors on the web. They get master CD's shipped to them from the Paris office of MandrakeSoft which are then used to individually burn the CD's that they sell. What do you mean by anomolies? My CD set is fine. Alan
Re: [expert] HP Pavilion 6470Z
Same experience here with a HP 6540C, nomo Riptide! I've tripled the RAM, and tripled the HD space. The only thing I had to work at was getting the Intel 810 video to work. Intel has the drivers you need (agpart.o module). Be sure to download the instructions with the module/server/driver type files. Vern Alex V Flinsch wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm looking at potentially installing linux on an HP Pavilion 6470Z and I wanted to know how well Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 load the hardware. Anyone have any install experience with one of these? Don't know about the 6470Z model, but I had it installed on my 4450. Did not get sound/modem to work (Rockwell RipTide combo card -- winmodem crapola) Everything else worked OK though. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
Re: [expert] HP Pavilion 6470Z
I've not had any luck finding any driver for the Riptide setup. It didn't function too well under Windoze anyway. My experience was on Mdk 6.0,6.1,7.02 versions. vern David Talbot wrote: Does a driver exist for the sound card? (The modem I could care less about as long as I've got ethernet) And was your experience on 7.0 or 7.1? -David Talbot At 04:24 PM 6/14/00 -0400, you wrote: On Wed, 14 Jun 2000, you wrote: I'm looking at potentially installing linux on an HP Pavilion 6470Z and I wanted to know how well Mandrake 7.0 or 7.1 load the hardware. Anyone have any install experience with one of these? Don't know about the 6470Z model, but I had it installed on my 4450. Did not get sound/modem to work (Rockwell RipTide combo card -- winmodem crapola) Everything else worked OK though. -- Alex (Go easy on me, I'm a COBOL programmer in real life)
[expert] Another Mandrake source.
Here's another source for 7.1 CDROM's. vern o Mandrake Linux 7.1 CDROM (pre-order) http://linuxcentral.com/catalog/index.php3?prod_code=L000-071 The new Linux-Mandrake 7.1 (Helium) has just been released and is now available as a pre-order for $1.95 on CD-ROM. Linux-Mandrake 7.1 continues to build upon and refine the many innovations first introduced in version 7.0 and adds many new features certain to please beginners and experts alike. -CDROM $1.95, order code: L000-071
Re: [expert] New h/drive
Civileme wrote: Seagate is good for certain chipsets, but I have observed signal reflections on i810, VIA MVP3, and MVP4, Intel 430 TX, and ALi Aladdin V under Pentium code. The problem is highly pronounced with TX chipsets, resulting in corrupt data that appears to write OK and is totally unreadable when the TX chipset is clocked at 75 MHz (as for a Cyrix processor). I did get "lost interrupt" errors on a very modern i810 with a Celeron 400 and a Barracuda 10.2G. Windows, FreeBSD, and such loaded fine, but Stampede, Enoch and Mandrake could not even install. (All were processor optimised) Mandrake 486 could run this with only occasional reports of disk errors. Civileme I've had good luck so far with my Celeron 466 with i810 chipset and a Quantum "Fireball" 10 gig. drive on Mandrake 7. vern
Re: [expert] Re: DISCUSION Upgrade (fwd)
I expect to be able to upgrade from a prior version much easier than I did from Mdk 6.1 to Mdk 7.0. I would want to upgrade without having to trash my present setup. I tried to upgrade from 6.1 earlier this year and some things functioned some didn't, I had to do a clean install to get a full functioning version. It seems this would be a "doable thing" with a distro based on RPM's. vern Denis HAVLIK wrote: Hi, folks It feels strange when I have to reply to my own message but... I thought that "upgrade" is an extremely important topic, yet no one wants to discuss it. Does it mean that you are not interested (so we should stop worying about upgrade) or what? I repeat: :~What do you expect from upgrade? cu Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] A modest security idea for new distribution
Could you expand on this "chrooted" operation, or at least tell me where I can RTFM ?? vern Denis HAVLIK wrote: Would not help you much. What WOULD help is having all programs started from mail programs chrooted to somewhere where they cannot do any damage. my 2c Denis -- - Dr. Denis Havlikhttp://www.ap.univie.ac.at/users/havlik Mandrakesoft||| e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Quality Assurance (@ @)(private: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ---oOO--(_)--OOo- Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [expert] Win Apps
I hear ya Charley! I wish I could afford to play with VMware, but I hear they have some deal going on with Macro$haft of all people! So I don't look for any "bargains" on VMware anytime soon. vern Charley Sparks wrote: Are there any plans to include a windows emulator with Mandrake .. VMware or some other besides WINE ? I have 3 specialized apps that will never be ported.. they are Mortgage and finance stuff for my wife Charley
Re: [expert] Firewall Rules
Do a search on the web for PMfirewall, this little program is a script which will write IPCHAINS rules. It writes a basic firewall that you can customize to your needs. vern Sridhar Govindarajulu wrote: I am trying to set up firewall rules. Can I use LinuxConf for that. If so does it write the rules to rc.firewall in /etc/rc.d or any other file? Cheers Sridhar -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] KDE taskbar menubar vanish after screensaver kicks in?
This may be too simple but do you have the "auto hide" feature turned on for your taskbar and menubar? vern Jay Summet wrote: Hello all, The following has happened to me three times now, intermitantly. I'll come back to my computer after my screensaver has been on (Kmatrix.kss) and type my password. The SS goes away, and I get my desktop with whatever programs were on it, BUT, there is no taskbar menubar from KDE (without the task bar I can not "un-iconofy" minimized programs, and without the menubar the only way I can start applications is to use the ALT-F2 command run window. I generally kill off my Xserver at this point and log back in. However, I was wondering if there was an easier way (like perhaps running an xterm with the ALT-F2 trick, and then starting whatever process is supposed to be making my taskbar/menubar). Anybody know why this is happening? Suggestions on what to try when it does? I'm running a perty standard Mandrake 7.0-2 install. Thanks, Jay Summet -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] CD burner puzzles
Yeah my experience with the XCDroast package is it will try to calculate the size of the image to be created and go to the disk and the hard drive will start up and never return! I've watched the process with the KDE process management tool, and it will consume all the CPU resources at least 98%! I had to then terminate the process. I haven't tried the new cooker stuff yet. vern "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: No, it's the Mandrake 7 version of mkisofs that's broken, though it took us some time (and lots of messages in this list) to figure that out . . . The cooker one is fixed; there's a test program on my website to see if it's causing you trouble. NOTE that it only corrupts some files, so you could be creating potentiallly-corrupt CDs and not know it if you haven't run the test program! John Aldrich wrote: I seem to recall reading that the CDRECORD/XCDROAST package that comes with Mandrake 7 is broken, that you need to upgrade to the latest, preferably the tarball from the author. John -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com. -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] Mandrake security mailing list
Sounds good to me! I presently subscribe to the redhat security list since Mandrake is based on RH. vern Jon wrote: On Sat, May 20, 2000 at 01:57:17PM -0700, Gavin Clark wrote: Excellent idea. How do we get this started? Is mandrake open to new lists? if not someone on the list could host it, or I have heard of sites that will host your list for free (they probly have banner ads on the archive) If Mandrake Software does not want to host the list, I will be happy to host it myself. What would the scope be? Security alerts and anouncements, upgrades, help and discusion on mandrake-security related issues. Anything else? I'd like to see: Security alerts and announcements relevant to Mandrake distro. Discussions of ways to enhance the security of your Mandrake box. Discussions on possible security holes you might find in the Manrdake distro. QA for people on Linux Mandrake security. That's my general concept anyways :) -- Jon Changnon, Director of Operations e: [EMAIL PROTECTED] p: 440.951.9525 http://www.dncc.net -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] Problems downloading files
WOW! Thanks Civileme! That's the best explaination of what's going on here at my place. I have had the same experiences here. I use D4X and a USR modem, but knew nothing of "anti-spoofing software" or the port 139 business. The note about the hardware timing was also great. It's neat to learn the "why" behind this stuff. I have been doing all this simply because it "works" but never really knowing the nuts and bolts of the operation. I'll continue to "lurk and learn". vern Civileme wrote: If it were happening in windows as well, I would tend to blame the modem's catching an "exploit string", that is a specific string script kiddies use to punt many people from online services by hanging the modem. The string doesn't work against USR modems with TI chipsets or older Hayes ISA v.90s but hits most others rather well. I have DLed files up to 282Mb using 7.0 with 2.2.14, so I would tend to discount the idea that the kernel needs patching. Netscape occasionally hangs at 100% Dl when working through a firewall and saving to an NFS share, but I don't DL with Netscape any longer. One question, does your ISP run NT servers with "anti-spoofing software?" Some of that will hang you up if it doesn't see periodic (per quota) responses from port 139, and of course linux doesn't supply it. My first advice though is to get a really good DL program. Try this one: http://server51.freshmeat.net/download/1194/nt-1.16.tar.gz D4X is designed to download against almost anything, and it will pick up a broken DL and in fact blow by hangups by taking what it has and reconnecting/resuming. Now on to the other possibilities. Your hardware is subjected to less leeway from specs by Pentium (vs 386) code. Its timing has to be much closer to spec. This is not an issue to be dismissed lightly. If you can DL in windows, then get that tarball and just move it to the ext2 filesystem from linux and try it. It is 386 code and will lessen the stress on your system (though the 586 drivers will still have tighter timing requirements). Civileme -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] Mandrake security mailing list
Is the Mandrake security list on the Mandrake site no longer functioning? I subscribed to it month's ago and it has little or no traffic. It may be only a "one way" announcement type list (I don't know). vern Vincent Danen wrote: On Sat, 20 May 2000, Gavin Clark wrote: I also wish that Mandrake had a discussion oriented security list that we could post to. I'd be more than happy to be reading bugtraq and forwarding relevant things to the mandrake-security list and others probably would as well. Excellent idea. How do we get this started? Is mandrake open to new lists? if not someone on the list could host it, or I have heard of sites that will host your list for free (they probly have banner ads on the archive) I'll host it... it would be something like [EMAIL PROTECTED] with an archive online as well. What would the scope be? Security alerts and anouncements, upgrades, help and discusion on mandrake-security related issues. Anything else? Let me know what you (and anyone else) think appropriate so I can put a little blurb in the subscription message that is sent back to welcome people to the list. I'll set something up by the end of the weekend. I'd also suggest crypto support as well. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS: telnet://bbs.freezer-burn.org . ICQ: 54924721 Webmaster for the Linux Portal Site Freezer Burn: http://www.freezer-burn.org -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
Re: [expert] IE for Linux(Unix)?
EGAD! Beware the darkside Luke! Got any good CPM emulators to run on my CRAY?? vern James Little wrote: If you go to Microsoft's download page you'll find a download for Internet Explorer 4.0 written for HP-UX and Solaris. Is it possible that one of these would run on Mandrake? I just don't want to spend an hour downloading for nothing. -- V3rn waz h3r3! Help! My Linux doc. heap has fallen on me, and I can't get up! ILOVEYOU is a GNUish plot!
[expert] Re: [newbie] Sound Blaster Help!
Thanks quayler! I'll give this a try! Vern quaylar wrote: i had the same problem with my soundcardafter loading the oss compatible modules snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss everything worked fine...system sounds and mp3 player too... On Thu, 04 May 2000 20:06:44 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I finally sprang for a new audio card, a brand new Sound Blaster PCI 512. This must be new one as it was the only affordable PCI Sound Blaster card Staples had. So I did all the research on available drivers for Linux and found same at ALSA so attempting my first source code compile I got it to make the object code module and installed it per "readme" instructions. My CD plays music fine but I can't get any of the system sounds to play. I've been through all the mixers and such in both KDE and GNOME with no success. Any help would be most appreciated! After working with this for 2 days I think I've tried all the combinations possible. HELP! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Have you hugged your penguin today? *** -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Have you hugged your penguin today? ***
Re: [expert] Sound Blaster Help!
Okay I finally got things functional, I got the latest sndconfig from Mandrake and it recognized the PCI512 card as a SB Live! card and had a bunch of errors. I didn't think it worked but all the little click pops and bangs are now working. It will play MP3's in the Midnight commander mode but KMP3 won't load the .mp3 files. So I'm going to try and get another GUI MP3 player. Thanks for all your help! Vern Mage Grimau wrote: The driver is emu10k1. It's on the iso image from Mandrakesoft - I never bought the set. Probably CD1 from any of the sets. I'm not sure if there's an easy way to copy it over - I just did a fake upgrade and it worked fine. :) I'm on the expert list to hear from the experts, I'm not one myself --- vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Mage, I have to confess, I can't find the drivers on the CD! How's that for dense?? What are they called? I tried the "sndconfig rpm" but I don't think that is what you ment. I've got the full set (all 6 CD's) searched them all, please this "blind newbie"! Vern Mage Grimau wrote: That's the same card I just got - I found the drivers that came with Mandrake 7.0 work best. I tried others with little luck, then copied the Mandrake ones from the CD, ran sndconfig, and everything works fine. Next time I need drivers, I'm checking the CD *first*. --- vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I finally sprang for a new audio card, a brand new Sound Blaster PCI 512. This must be new one as it was the only affordable PCI Sound Blaster card Staples had. So I did all the research on available drivers for Linux and found same at ALSA so attempting my first source code compile I got it to make the object code module and installed it per "readme" instructions. My CD plays music fine but I can't get any of the system sounds to play. I've been through all the mixers and such in both KDE and GNOME with no success. Any help would be most appreciated! After working with this for 2 days I think I've tried all the combinations possible. HELP! Vern -- -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was created in a Micro$haft free environment!
[expert] Re: [newbie] A little security....
I'm a newbie on Linux firewalls too, I've had a pretty good experience with a product called "PMfirewall" it's a script that write rules to the IPCHAINS section. They have a pretty helpful email list, although it is very low volume, and there is an archive of the mail list so you don't have to ask the same questions over and over. Vern PS. As I didn't have a spare 486 box for a firewall I use this script on my stand alone Linux box. Paul wrote: On Sat, 6 May 2000, Andy wrote: Its great everyones talking about windows firewalls, but what about Linux firewalls. I have heard that a 486 with linux on it can become a great firewall for a business. I have read something a few days ago, somewhere (where???) that you can do something with IPCHAINS to set up a firewall. Perhaps looking around in that field brings you something. Paul )0(---)0( Happiness requires practice, just like playing the violin. )0([[EMAIL PROTECTED]]-)0( http://nlpagan.net - ICQ 147208 Registered Linux User 174403 -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] This email was created in a Micro$haft free environment!
[expert] [newbie] Sound Blaster Help!
Well I finally sprang for a new audio card, a brand new Sound Blaster PCI 512. This must be new one as it was the only affordable PCI Sound Blaster card Staples had. So I did all the research on available drivers for Linux and found same at ALSA so attempting my first source code compile I got it to make the object code module and installed it per "readme" instructions. My CD plays music fine but I can't get any of the system sounds to play. I've been through all the mixers and such in both KDE and GNOME with no success. Any help would be most appreciated! After working with this for 2 days I think I've tried all the combinations possible. HELP! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Have you hugged your penguin today? ***
Re: [expert] Sound Blaster Help!
Hello Mage, I have to confess, I can't find the drivers on the CD! How's that for dense?? What are they called? I tried the "sndconfig rpm" but I don't think that is what you ment. I've got the full set (all 6 CD's) searched them all, please this "blind newbie"! Vern Mage Grimau wrote: That's the same card I just got - I found the drivers that came with Mandrake 7.0 work best. I tried others with little luck, then copied the Mandrake ones from the CD, ran sndconfig, and everything works fine. Next time I need drivers, I'm checking the CD *first*. --- vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well I finally sprang for a new audio card, a brand new Sound Blaster PCI 512. This must be new one as it was the only affordable PCI Sound Blaster card Staples had. So I did all the research on available drivers for Linux and found same at ALSA so attempting my first source code compile I got it to make the object code module and installed it per "readme" instructions. My CD plays music fine but I can't get any of the system sounds to play. I've been through all the mixers and such in both KDE and GNOME with no success. Any help would be most appreciated! After working with this for 2 days I think I've tried all the combinations possible. HELP! Vern -- -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, Kentucky[EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Have you hugged your penguin today? ***
[expert] Scan your ports from the outside.
Okay I'm ready to test my firewall where do I go to get a good port scan? The port scanner on cybercrime at ZDTV is only for windoze clients. I wonder why that would make a difference to the outside world. Vern
Re: [expert] Scan your ports from the outside.
Thanks to all (both) who responded I think I've found a pretty good "outside" port scanner at: hackerwhacker.com. grc.com only did the common ports, and nmap is what I use to check "in house" I wanted to be scanned by someone or something in the "real world" environment. And my logs show that "hackerwhacker" hit most of the 65K ports available. So many ports and so little time. Sigh! Vern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 29 Apr, vern wrote: Okay I'm ready to test my firewall where do I go to get a good port scan? The port scanner on cybercrime at ZDTV is only for windoze clients. I wonder why that would make a difference to the outside world. Vern Try http://www.grc.com -- Barry Marler Department of Medical Microbiology and Parasitology University of Georgia Athens, GA (706)542-0742 (706)542-0059(fax)
Re: [expert] Backing up more than 650MB to a set of CDRW disks?
Thank you very much Brian! Been looking for this! Vern "Brian T. Schellenberger" wrote: There's a package called scdbackup (Simple CD Backup) that does exactly this and does a lovely job of it. http://scdbackup.linuxave.net/ I've been meaning to package this up for Mandrake for some time now, but I keep not quite getting around to it. I'll try to get to it soon! (Actually, I haven't checked lately; for all the more I know somebody else has gotten to it since I last checked.) Ron Johnson wrote: Hello. These are some general questions about CDRs CDRWs before I go and buy one: Will existing cd writers do what I ask in the "Subject:"? My thought is if is possible to create a rescue floppy that only boots and knows how to read a CDRW drive and has a few utilities like mkext2. This floppy would then run a script that asked for "CD #1" and apply it to a newly formatted HD, then ask for "CD #2", apply it, etc., until my whole system (2 HDs) has been restored. On the "front side", how do you split gigabytes of files into multiple CDRW disks or .iso files? Ron -- +--+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | | | Most overused words: feel, cool/kewl, fun, myBlah.com| | Most underused word: think | +--+ -- "Brian, the man from babble-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Going Crazy over IDE CD-writer
Thank you Ron for the info on cdwriter programs, I've yet to master writing a multisession CDRW. I sure would like a way to backup my files. Vern Ron Stodden wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: Question, though: why is /dev/sr0 mounted ro, even though it is a CD-RW? Because there is NO kernel support (yet?) for writing to CDROM devices - only reading is supported, hence the r in sr0 (scsi read zero). For CD writing software the kernel is bypassed and the cdwriter software contains its own hardware drivers and interfaces directly to the CD-R or CD-RW device, which should NOT be mounted at the time. I would NOT attempt to concurrently read and write a CD-R or CD-RW. -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux.
Re: [expert] cdrecord CD-RW problems
H! That's a new one, I may have a CDRW in the same condition. We need a CDRW analyzer! The cdrecord does a pretty good job of identifying the CDRW even to the point of knowing the company of manufacture. Vern Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Tue, Apr 25, 2000 at 17:09 +1000, Ron Stodden wrote: Your cdrecord should have a -blank parameter for use of CD-RW, shouldn't it? From your mail (and others) I gather that I should 'cdrecord -blank dev=4,0' with all *fresh* CD-RWs before putting the first image on it. That sounds like 'blank' does some kind of lowlevel formatting on the CD-RW. But for putting raw images on it I do not need any formatted media, right? 2. Q: I had a CD-RW which was used under Windows before and I wanted to erase all contents with the -blank command. It never worked. After issueing this command on the CD-RW I could throw it away. It wasn't even useable under Win any more. So I did not dare to use CD-RWs under Linux again. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] txt_boot.img, txt_bootnet.img
I love your sig. !! And, the request for the text install with no mouse was really "hard-core" for this "greenhorn" Vern Sincerely, Asheesh Laroia. -- Real programmers disdain structured programming. Structured programming is for compulsive neurotics who were prematurely toilet- trained. They wear neckties and carefully line up pencils on otherwise clear desks.
[expert] Mandrake vs. Redhat??
I still consider myself a "newbie" "greenhorn" type user of Mandrake Linux. So I'm attempting to understand the "lay of the land" so to speak. I know Redhat embraces Gnome for the Qt open source issues, I've noticed a process sunrpc running in my newly installed Mdk 7.0 system. I know it is required by the NFS and NIS systems, but is that proprietory?? Is it still owned by Sun?? Is there an open source or GNU version?? I still have a habit of getting sidetracked with so much to learn all at once. I started looking for documentation on the gtoast program and got off in the GNOME land and immersed in CORBA with ORB's and such. And to top it all off I visited the site with my newly aquired Mozilla M15 browser which I'm still learning how to use. In order to download M15 (7MB) I had to dwnload the Downloader for X (333K) so I could resume my download of M15 beyond the customery 76% my ISP allows me to stay connected! :-) 7MB at 24K does take a while! I laughed at the thought of downloading the source code for M15 (22MB). So I've had an interesting few days getting aquainted with Mdk Linux. I can erase CDRW's in gtoast (leaving no acceptable tracks to record to), and record CDR's and CDRW's in Xcdroast (single session) never got the multisessions to work in gtoast (no enough handholding type docs) just type and scratch head so far! Thanks for reading all this, it has been an education! vern
[expert] Fwd: [UKLUG] Wow, an actual constructive use for IRC!
Thought you guys might find this useful. Vern -- Forwarded Message -- Subject: [UKLUG] Wow, an actual constructive use for IRC! Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 12:52:28 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check it outfire up an IRC client and head to irc.debian.org channel #debian. Then you can do an "apt: ipmasq" to have the channel bot give you info on what ipmasq is and where to find docs. That's really cool! It works for most packages. -- Nathan Valentine - [EMAIL PROTECTED] AIM: NRVesKY ICQ: 39023424 U. of Ky Linux Users Group - http://www.uky.edu/StudentOrgs/UKLUG Punning is the worst vice, and there's no vice versa. - Unknown ___ UKLUG website: http://www.uky.edu/StudentOrgs/UKLUG UKLUG mailing list addr: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list info: http://slug.louisville.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/llug ---
[expert] CDRW multisession?
I got xcdroast working, it writes CDR's okay, but I need help making my CDRW's multisession. I made my master recorded it, but it "fixated" it instead of laying down the tracks for future use it sealed the CDRW from any future use. Now can I erase the CDRW and try again?? Is there any way to format a CDRW for future use?? I've been to the xcdroast man page, README, and the author's website. Can any of this be done without going to packet writing or UDF format?? All my windoze CDRW's are in UDF and I would like to go to ISO 9660 for both OS's. Thanks for reading this! Vern
Re: [expert] Overload
Thanks for the update Dave, in your opinion is it worth the effort to install Netscape 6?? I'm not really impressed by the one I run now (4.7). Vern On Wed, 19 Apr 2000, you wrote: Actually, the mozilla project is not being touched by AOL, they are taking the code to make Netscape 6 from it...but the code for mozilla will still be available. I have been playing with the various builds of mozilla since the M8 build(the m15 build came out tonight). I have also tested out the Netscape 6 PR1 build.gotta hand it to them, it runs FAST!!!.it's not totaly stable yetbut it's pretty close, N6PR1 is more stable that M14 was. --Dave -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Located on a dusty dirt road, running roughly parallel to the information highway. Awaiting BellSouth's efforts to bridge the "digital divide". Country penguins rock when given the chance.
Re: [expert] Overload
Glad there's another geek in KY! Netscape has gotten so big and bloated that I'm thinking about dusting off my copy of 3.01 I believe it was. Might even download the M14 or M15 version of Mozilla and give the gecko a whirl! I haven't had the guts to try Netscape 6 I can only wonder what the evil empire of AOL has hung on the Mozilla frame. I wonder if we will be kicking CD's of Netscape 6 across the floor as we do AOL 5 now! There seems to be a copy everytime I go to the mailbox. My grand daughter likes them as frisbees, Vern On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, you wrote: I have Mandrake 7.0, not the -2 version. Sometimes, when I'm using both Netscape Navigator and Messenger, I'll notice that things seem to have frozen. If I open a terminal window and run top, I'll see something called ld-linux.so.2, and I can sit and watch it start taking more and more cpu up to almost 10%. At that point, the only way to get Netscape to start working again, is to do a kill -9 on the pid of that process. My question(s): what is it? Why is it behaving that way, and is there a way to prevent it? Right now, for instance, it's behaving itself with a %cpu of 0.0 and %mem of 25.6. Any help would be appreciated. -- Larry Varney Cold Spring, KY http://w3.one.net/~lvarney Powered by Linux! -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: [expert] I haven't received a message from the group for 24-hours
We're BAAACK! I was going into geekless withdrawls!! My faith in humanity is restored!! There is a world out there! Mandrake was not nuked! Hi guys welcome back! Vern On Tue, 18 Apr 2000, you wrote: PjI believe something's broken. I've emailed [EMAIL PROTECTED] about it as he used to be in charge of the lists and, I hope, still is. Alan Pj wrote: I haven't received a message from the group for 24-hours, is the mail server down? Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: [expert] CD-RW UDF?
I can't read CD-RW's these CD's were created under Windoze with Easy Create (I think that's the name) it all works under Windoze. What program are you using with Linux?? Maybe the Windoze setup is non standard? To use it now the way it is I have to goto Windoze to read the CD-RW's. Help!! Vern On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote: vern wrote: the CDROM,CD-R HOWTO's. That left me with another question or two. I can read CD's CD-R's, but no CD-RW's does that mean that they are automatically in the UDF format?? Or are they Hi! Why couldn't you read RW's?? I read them normal There is no difference in reading RW's or just CD-R if they are created in a normal matter (sessions...). I am writing/reading CD-RW's normal under LiNUX, but not in UDF format. I use normal erase/write procedure for CD-RW! Bye, Alen -- *---* *E-Mail: Alen Salamun [EMAIL PROTECTED]* * LiNUX - The choice of GNU Generation! * *---* -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: Re[2]: [expert] CD-RW UDF?
That may be the answer since the CD-RW's I'm trying to read were created with that software over on windows!! Thanks for the lead I may have to change my CD software on windows! What's a good program to use in Linux to read and write to CD-RW's?? Vern On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote: Adaptec's web site might have some information on UDF. EZCD Creator supports it. Ty C. Mixon F.T.C. Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26147713 -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: [expert] CD-RW UDF?
Thanks jason! I'll give that a try! I may have rename the drive "cdrw" as I'm just now getting used to calling my IDE a SCSI with the change over to Mdk 7.0. I know more reading, more reading! Vern On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote: http://trylinux.com/projects/udf/ download the source, compile and install the module and then do: mount -t udf /dev/cdrw /mnt/cdrw (or whatever suits you) as root. jason. vern wrote: Hello all, I just spent the afternoon hunting up all the infos, HOWTO's and man pages that weren't installed on my initial installation. Spent quite a time with the CDROM,CD-R HOWTO's. That left me with another question or two. I can read CD's CD-R's, but no CD-RW's does that mean that they are automatically in the UDF format?? Or are they merely not finished tracks? My ultimate goal is to use the CD-RW as a big floppy to archive data to. I hope "dump" and "restore" will use the CD-RW someday, if I can figure out all the ins and outs. Thanks for any help! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: Re[2]: Re[2]: [expert] CD-RW UDF?
Thanks Ty! I went to Adaptec's website and download the UDF spec sheet they had (no simple answers). I think I know what to do in EZ to produce the ISO 9660 disks. Wonder if I could get by with running EZ in WINE and reading the disks I have already made in the UDF format?? HMMM! It's an option before I switch my CD-RW collection over to ISO 9660! I see your "Re[2]:"and raise you a "Re:" in the Subject line. :-) Thanks again for the info! Vern On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote: Anything will read them. For wtiting XCDroast works great (and comes w/ Mandrake). You can use EZ to write - just make sure UDF is not used. I'm not sure how to do that tho. I can tell you some general info about UDF tho: It's designed to make CD-RW's work like flpys in that you can erase only parts of the disk, rather than having to erase the whole disk. Does have one flaw however - if you erase a chunk (creating fragmentation) and then it tries to write something bigger than that empty space to that same part, you get errors. That may be the answer since the CD-RW's I'm trying to read were created with that software over on windows!! Thanks for the lead I may have to change my CD software on windows! What's a good program to use in Linux to read and write to CD-RW's?? Vern On Sun, 16 Apr 2000, you wrote: Adaptec's web site might have some information on UDF. EZCD Creator supports it. Ty C. Mixon F.T.C. Enterprises [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ 26147713 -- -- Vernon Stilwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] This signature was brought to you by vi. My other computer is a CRAY.
Re: [expert] My floppy went away!
Okay here goes, I don't see any difference! I issued the command supermount disable, do I have to go into /etc/fstab and edit out supermount?? In the command line I tried all the mount/umount /dev/fd0, /mnt/floppy still can't read the floppy. I did get an I/O error trying to enter the /mnt/floppy file. But none of the above ever activates the drive so it's not a media, or file system problem. Any ideas? Vern On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: Well, with that file (supermount enabled) mount /dev/fd0 is invalid, but should also be unnecessary. With suprmount disabled, though, it should work. Maybe you could also post your /etc/fstab with supermount disabled as well? vern wrote: This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=vfat,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
RE: [expert] cron and rmmod?
Okay Mathieu thanks for explaining the obvious to me. (I need that ocassionally)! :-) The anacron package is indeed functional and I do remember reading about it's ability to "catch up" after the computer is powered up. I wanted it installed for that express purpose because I don't leave my machine on 24/7. Thanks for taking the time to explain this (again!) to me. Although I would think some record would exist in the logs somewhere outlining this activity, I may have just missed it somewhere. On the other query cron keeps trying to remove modules every ten minutes whether there are any installed or not. I'll continue to read and study this magnificent OS! Vern On Tue, 11 Apr 2000, you wrote: I don't know about your rmmod problem, but I can explain you the disk activity. I suppose you've installed the package anacron, that is like cron, except that it executes commands the better way it can. I mean, if your machine was powered off at the time you said you wanted to synchronize your machine with a time host, then, with a normal crontab, if you boot you won't synchronize at all except if you let your machine run several hours (just the time to get the exact date when the cron job has to execute). With anachron, all the jobs that had to execute during the out-of-power time will execute after boot time, and it will of course execute others jobs as would do a normal cron. So, the disk activity you hear is simply the anacron job to update the updatedb, so that you can do a locate file with always accurate data. Do a man anacron one day ! [Sorry if what I say here is not completely accurate but I've never done the man myself ;-) I've simply read the sum-up of the anacron package, thought it was a very good idea, and wondered the same questions about disk activity after start up ! ;-)] Regards Mathieu -Original Message- From: vern [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: lundi 10 avril 2000 23:22 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] cron and rmmod? On looking at my logs I wondered is it absolutely necessary to have cron run rmmod -as every ten minutes? I have a lot of strange hard drive activity about two minutes after I boot up. It's like something is checking out the file system or something. But there is no entry in any log that I can see as to what this activity is. Any clues? No errors or no problems so far (been running Mdk 7.0 for two days so far) just curious. Thanks for reading this! Vern -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna race? My penguin can do 466.94 BogoMIPS
[expert] My floppy went away!
This is spooky! I no longer have the ability to read my floppy. It worked for almost 2 days after installing Mdk 7.0-2. I tried to mount the /dev/fd0 and got the reading not found in my fstab or mtab (see attached) looks like they are there to me. Any ideas? I've also tried supermount enable and disable no change. Thanks for reading this! Vern PS. The IDE CDROM works after I told it that it was a scis (scuzzy)! :-) -- Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED] RR#3 Box 168 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hardinsburg, KY 40143 [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wanna race? My penguin can do 466.94 BogoMIPS /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat user,exec,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 defaults 1 1 /dev/hda5 swap swap defaults 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0 /dev/hda2 / ext2 rw 0 0 none /proc proc rw 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/DOS_hda1 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,conv=binary 0 0 /dev/hda6 /mnt/DOS_hda6 vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,conv=binary 0 0 /mnt/floppy /mnt/floppy supermount rw,fs=auto,dev=/dev/fd0 0 0 none /dev/pts devpts rw,mode=0620 0 0 /mnt/cdrom /mnt/cdrom supermount rw,fs=iso9660,dev=/dev/cdrom 0 0
Re: [expert] How to quit getting mail
You can still turn it on and off from the website I'm back on from being off for almost a week. Vern On Sun, 09 Apr 2000, you wrote: Lee Binkley wrote: How do you get off this mailing list.. please advise. How did you get on this mailing list? -Stephen-
[expert] Fine tuning my PPP?
Hello All! On modifying my options on the PPP service to work with my raggedy old 24K intermittent phone lines. I've set my MTU, and MRU to 296 to minimize the packet fragmentation. (I hope) I ran across the "noipx" command an wondered what "IPX" stood for, do I need it? And why should I care?? Every single packet is precious and I need every clock cycle I can latch on to! Thanks for any help! Vern
[expert] cron and rmmod?
On looking at my logs I wondered is it absolutely necessary to have cron run rmmod -as every ten minutes? I have a lot of strange hard drive activity about two minutes after I boot up. It's like something is checking out the file system or something. But there is no entry in any log that I can see as to what this activity is. Any clues? No errors or no problems so far (been running Mdk 7.0 for two days so far) just curious. Thanks for reading this! Vern
Re: [expert] Netscape 6 pr1 Feedback Requested
On Thu, 06 Apr 2000, you wrote: And I hammered away for an hour over a DSL connection to bring in the 10Mb or so (Mozilla M14 was only 6 , the other 4 must be Shopping, Channels, sidebar, and AOL IM Chat). They managed to slow M14 considerably by adding a newsfeed in the sidebar which I collapsed without being able to kill the newsfeed. CIvileme Sounds like I need M14 if it's stable enough for a newbie to use! Maybe the fonts are better than Net 4.7 which I use now. Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000, you wrote: HMMM! Again! There may be a light at the end of the tunnel! Think any of that hardware/software might be available to a "home" user?? I don't have the $$$ a TV station has but if some of the pieces were available it would make a worthwhile project! So how do you like Red Hat 6.2 ??? Anything earth shattering?? Haven't heard any feedback yet! Vern Direct PC DOES work on Linux. How do I know this?? At work ( TV station ) we have a box made by a company called DG Systems. It's a video file server for commercials that are uplinked to us, rather than someone shipping tape. It's a stand alone box with a 7" BW monitor. It's running Linux. :) As far as the details, I couldn't tell ya. It never crashes and the whole 3 years its been there, I've seen it boot one time. ( no kidding ).. Nice device.. Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Coming to you from RedHat 6.2 and/or BeOS 5 === -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: vern wrote: You guys make me sick! :-) BellSouth says I'm lucky to have my 24K wire! Still waiting for satelittes here! Vern What a bummer. They've been offering 1.5bps ADSL in the N.O. area since early '99. Cable's been around that long, too. At %50/mo, ADSL ain't cheap, but I've heard of worse. This is the only techno-category where we aren't the arm pit of the nation... Ron Hello Ron, I've got that much tied up in my three $20 a month ISP's that's just to get a reliable hook up to the net. There are three offered here in the county and they are all over sold to the point of congestion. Plus the usual "tech support" applies = got a problem?? Reload windoze! We almost have electricity down to a science though, but I still depend on my UPS to smooth out the "bumps, sags, and etc." on the wire! Case in point: I knew I was in trouble when the "Internet tech." on the other end said "wait while I reboot sir" :-) Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] fonts
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: I know this subject has been covered, but I can't find the the old email. Running Mandrake 6.1 and looking for a way to improve the poor Netscape fonts. If someone could point me to the solution I would appreciate it. Thanks Pat Yeah! Mee too! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: You guys make me sick! :-) BellSouth says I'm lucky to have my 24K wire! Still waiting for satelittes here! Vern Hmm...well, I've got ISDN... and I'm a Bellsouth customer. :-) John H! I'd settle for a decent 56K wire! Vern PS. I know "move closer to the switch" mumble mumble mumble :-) -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: "Alan N." wrote: What? Do the satellites take a move when they approach your home? I do believe they are up there.. DirectPC is on Galaxy 4 from memory. The problem with satellite broadband is that it still requires a land line for up connections. You won't be operating any services on one of those =) Wireless has a *long* way to go... -Stephen- Plus Hughes "service" only function under windoze, and very poorly at that! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] intel 810/820/840 chipsets
On Tue, 04 Apr 2000, you wrote: AHHH! MAN! Another "gotcha" on this PC!! This "name brand" (Hewlett Packard Pavilion 6540C) has more traps than I can imagine!! I just replaced the modem, the video card, the sound card and now a memory "gotcha" WOW! Nice case though :-) but it only has a 90W power supply!! Vern Every day I learn something new. Today I was at www.aberdeeninc.com checking memory prices and I saw PC100 SDRAM advertised. And in the ads it was stated, rather bluntly, Do NOT use with Intel 810/820/840 Chipset Motherboards Those folks sell a lot of hardware and they back it. Their techs are pretty good techs and better statisticians. I smell another hardware problem, and I have an 810 board from a reliable manufacturer sitting on my desk with memory not certified for it. I am ordering, as soon as I can afford it, some memory to the specs of the 810 chipsets et al. Then we will see if the errors observed under AIR and Windoze repeat. That Soyo Board has the strangest series of blue screens with windows Yet my FreeBSD3.3 is stable on it, which suggests something very unusual. Now it seems it might be a timing problem between chipset and memory which windows isn't capable of handling, and which advanced code exacerbates. Anyway, i810 owners out there take note and watch where you buy memory. Another concealed punji trap in the upgrade wars. Civileme -- Anyone remember TurboDOS? How about Formula/Formula II or Final Word? Or the OKIData 3300 74Mb HDD which was successfully placed on a micro in 1977. 100lbs of platters in 14" format fitting nicely into a rack And a bargain at $6000! YES! Here's a vote for TurboDOS!! -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: John Aldrich wrote: On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: You guys make me sick! :-) BellSouth says I'm lucky to have my 24K wire! Still waiting for satelittes here! Vern What? Do the satellites take a move when they approach your home? I do believe they are up there.. DirectPC is on Galaxy 4 from memory. Who wants to run the windoze program and proprietory PC card needed to run, crash, run, crash etc. Plus you still need the 24K wire uplink! Vern -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Coming to you from RedHat 6.2 and/or BeOS 5 === -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] time/date
Found a good use for windoze, booted it up yesterday for my daughter and it came up wanting to adjust my clock for "daylight savings" time, so I did, it did, and here I am! Vern On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: I use rdate once in a while to set my computers clock, but that is a manual approach. Is there any automated approach to this? Set up a cron job to do this on a daily basis? weekly basis??? Dunno... John -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] The ongoing Trash Linux Debate
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: You out there who Expect that a group of volunteers working almost in isolation can produce perfect code every time, which runs on every variety of equipment - just think of the very small steps taken during these past 60 or so years. Kinda makes a case for "Kernel Hacking" so the individual doesn't have to run the bloated "distro version" with drivers and "kludges" for every piece of hardware under the sun. While I am certainly not in that league of Linux user yet it appears that will be my ultimate goal. Yes - folks Linux does have some holes. But I seem to remember a time when not only Linux, but also Fortran, APL, LISP, PROLOG, SNA, Unix, Xenix, Cobol, RPG, Algol, and even Basic - were declared full of holes because the accountants didn't know what was involved in making them work!!! I remember Fortran, Unix, Xenix, Cobol, Basic!And all the associated thingies to make them "work" my first "personal computer" was an Apple II with 4K of memory and a floppy. Think I can get Linux to run on a 6502?? HMMM! Might make a programmable door bell out of it or some such! :-) And last of all for all you males out there - Would someone please explain A:What's a differential? B.How's it work? C.Why do we need it?? Cheers Well if you are talking about a "physical" differential, like what goes in an auto (not an equation) I might offer some insight. A: A network of gears to allow the driven wheel on an auto to turn at different speeds when making a turn. B:The network of gears called a "spider" I believe shifts the power from the wheel with no or little traction to the wheel with traction. Unless it is a "limited slip" or "locked" variety used in racing and 4x4 vehicles which apply the power to both wheels equally at all times. C:The two wheels on a drive axle of a vehicle travel at different speeds especially when making a turn. The outside wheel must travel a greater distance than the inside wheel. So there's enough wasted bandwidth on non Linux stuff. HTH Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] DSL help sought
You guys make me sick! :-) BellSouth says I'm lucky to have my 24K wire! Still waiting for satelittes here! Vern On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: Civileme wrote: I have a Cisco 675 that is doing me absolutely no good in an area where rates are $330/month for 128K DSL IF you can get the service. I cannot because there is no spare pair of wires coming to where I live. You guys should move to Canada =) This is the land of cheap, fast and ubiquitous DSL... I pay $27 US a month for 1.5 mbps =) I tried to get my friend in greater Detroit (!!!) onto DSL recently - no service in his area. Desperate, we looked into ISDN -- no service in his area. Pathetic. -Stephen- -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] Success report ... for a change!
On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: After reading all the mails about this getting not installed and that not working with MDK7 and some people nailing MDK7-CDs on their garage walls BWWHH! HOWWEE! I love great!! I'm really disappointed. Now what do I do with the remainder of the night? You could always reverse engineer that pizza recipe and figure a way to produce a cheap Tiwain knock-off! :-) wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] Best audio/video cards for Linux??
Okay Ron I was a little vague mainly because I really didn't know what I wanted. I need and can afford pretty basic video. I found a Matrox Mystique 2 MB card for $31 on the net the other night and got that. The Linux hardware site says it's great and I know it can do windoze I will probably add another 6 MB to do 16, 24, 32 bpp colors at 800x600 res. I have a Sony Multiscan 100ES 15" monitor. 800x600 is about as small as these tired old eyeballs can do in 15"!! My main problem at that point was you had to be able to "see it" to know if you could "use it" I might be able to use my Mandrake 7.0 upgrade now that I can actually see it! This all started with trying to get away from my Intel 810 chipset "onboard video" with all the associated kludges and patches that don't work with anything but 2.2 kernels. Thanks, Vern On Mon, 03 Apr 2000, you wrote: Vern, Nobody can help you with the video card until you tell us the maximum capabilities of the monitor it has to feed. Most popular video cards are way overkill for the monitors people actually have and can afford. Running up towards the maximum capability of any monitor is usually a mistake because monitors are specified optimistically (just because 1600x1200 is in the spec does not mean it is watchable for long periods), crispness (bandwidth headroom) suffers unacceptably, and the biggest fonts possible end up being too small to be usable. vern wrote: I am going to be in a position here in a few weeks to purchase an audio card and a video card, and would like to get everyone's opinion on the best ones to purchase for Linux?? They have to be PCI type for my motherboard. Thanks, Vern -- Regards, Ron. [AU] - sent by Linux. -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] KPPP Vs. PPP
Okay will give it a whirl! Thanks! Vern On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, vern wrote: Well I tried etc/ppp/options and all that was there was a lock file. Right you have to add a new line. I mislead you on the KPPP vs. PPP name (newbie brain freeze) It does not matter it still uses ppp theres only one way, via the ppp package, governed by that little file there :) I haven't configure PPP, I have just set up KPPP. I did some noising around and found: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ifcfg-pppX this contained all the conection info and a statement mtu= "", can I edit in the changes for mtu= "xxx" ?? or will this totally screw things up?? Thanks again! Vern Nope shouldn't break it, but i don't remeber if kppp actualy uses the if-cfg or not. Try it if it doesn't take effect put it back to blank and add a line to the /etc/ppp/options -- mtu xxx -- without the '--' of course.. -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] Mdk 7 - time to take out the trash? (long)
Okay Civileme, I'll be "tinkering" By the way I did order a "old,dumb,slow" read that "cheap" video card last night. A Matrox mystique card, which got "rave revues" on both the Linux hardware site and is supported by Xfree drivers. So maybe all this patching and trying to get the video to "work" will be over for me. I sincerely hope so! I'd like to move on to some other project for Linux. I do appreciate all your help! Vern On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Hello again Civileme, I went to the cooker mirror here in Indiana (across the river) and downloaded kernel 2.2.15-0.17mdk, can I just do an update here in ver. 6.1? Or do I have to reinstall 7.0 then update? The "test install" in kpackage didn't result in any error messages or dependancy issues is it safe to proceed? Thought I'd better ask before I go "off the air" for a week for a total rebuild. Thanks for all your help! Vern -- Ummm, if you possibly can, try to set aside a small partition, say 300-900Mb depending on how thoroughly you would like to test, then install 7 and rpm in the kernel You may need some ancillary items, like more recent libs, but I am told by the traffic on Cooker that it does seem to work. LILO does let you boot more than one linux Each with different root directories if you so choose. But testing with 6.1 should also be possible--just rpm in the new kernel and use linuxconf to set it up as bootable under a name like "new_linux" Then run lilo and next time you start, type LILO Boot: new_linux And you should have 6.1 running with that kernel and be able to test agpgart.o And if you type nothing or linux at LILO Boot: you should be running the same system with the kernel you originallly used for 6.1. Civileme -- Remember that if it is done on networks, it may occur on your host which is a network unto itself. -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] Mdk 7 - time to take out the trash? (long)
I'm still kind of new to all this, but the two "drivers" that Intel has on their site for the i810 chipset are both in the rpm format. One is a Xserver which installs very nicely never had it fail on any installation. The second "driver" is a module called agpgart.o which has to be "rebuilt" against the kernel you intend to use. No the module is not in binary, I went inside the agpgart.o module and "read" in there the part where it checks for the version of kernel. I guess a new module will need to be written when the new kernels come out, 2.3 (experimental) and 2.4 (stable). Vern On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: The intel drivers are drivers supplied in binary by Intel, or what? On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: | I likewise am back on Mdk 6.1 after a few days of trying | to get 7.0 to "work". My main problem is the Intel drivers | I got won't recognize the 2.2.14mdk?? kernel as a 2.2 kernel | the mdk "customized" version pukes, so I am awaiting the | chance to try out Red Hat 6.2 and see it the kernel in it | is a little more "mainstream" I'm not advanced enough to | get into kernel hacking although it's tempting sometimes! | Vern | | -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] compaq 7599 810 intel motherboard
On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: Marcos Dione wrote: On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, vern wrote: mdk kernel (2.2.14 series). I'm returning my Mdk 7.0 and applying the $50+ toward a real video card! Who knows next year I may add audio to my machine. yes, I think that's the best way... here we have a 90-compaq-with-this-chipset lab and we're still fighting to get X on all of them. the i810 chuipset seems to be very nasty: no docs nowhere, and all-in-one: serial and parallel ports, ide, video and sound in one chip. developers complain about guessing what's inside! you touch some register and you get video to work, but you are left with no ide, as an example... Download the XFCom_i810 agpgart.o! ftp://ftp.knb.com.hk/pub/i810 Been there, done that (downloaded them from Intel), but agpgart.o won't play on the Mandrake 2.2.14-??mdk kernel! Throws up on the kernel version part, Civilme sp? says the new "cooker" kernel is fixed, so this may be a way to get Mdk 7.0 to play the i810 chipset. I hoping anyway! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] KPPP Vs. PPP
Thanks Ago! More experiments! Vern On Sun, 02 Apr 2000, you wrote: On 1 Apr 00, at 23:55, vern wrote: Well I tried etc/ppp/options and all that was there was a lock file. Try to comment out the 'lock' option. #lock And check the box - use lock file - out. We had a long thread about it in Hungary :-) Bye, Ago "If you love somebody set them free..." Sting is GPL fan :-)) A hivatalos magyar KDE oldal : www.kde.hu -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] KPPP Vs. PPP
I have a question on how to configure PPP, the MTU number to be specific. I've tried to set it with ifconfig mtu xxx which works dandy for the session (ppp0) in progress but when you restart PPP it reverts back to the old MTU (15+++) numbers! Help! Vern On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: I use ppp to connect our office to the internet through a linux firewall. I noticed that kppp allows you to control to volume (turn off the speakers) on the modem. How would I accomplish the same with ppp? Is there a script I can all to ppp that will turn off the volume on redial? Thanks in advance Kevin Kallsen Senior Internet Specialist e101 Thomaston, CT 06787 fax 954.697.4685 www.e101.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mdk 7 - time to take out the trash? (long)
I likewise am back on Mdk 6.1 after a few days of trying to get 7.0 to "work". My main problem is the Intel drivers I got won't recognize the 2.2.14mdk?? kernel as a 2.2 kernel the mdk "customized" version pukes, so I am awaiting the chance to try out Red Hat 6.2 and see it the kernel in it is a little more "mainstream" I'm not advanced enough to get into kernel hacking although it's tempting sometimes! Vern | X. At this stage my colleague threw the ver 7 cd in the bin, and will be | putting 6 back on the machine next week. (No - he doesn't want to know | how to fix it, or what went wrong.) | | Also today, I installed the BeOS 5 (Personal Edition) operating system | that I downloaded last night. It really just unpacked the files. I | rebooted the machine, and hey! presto ... BeOS! Funny, video worked, | sound worked, Cdrw burnt cd's, ... all with NO installation questions, | NO how-to's, No hassles. OK - so there is nothing written for BeOS yet, | and I'm not serious about keeping it, just curious, BUT, it proved you | can write a hassle free installer THAT WORKS! | | OK - back to Linux - the current attitude that if something didn't work, | it's because you didn't read the instructions or your hardware is faulty | IS SIMPLY NOT ACCEPTABLE to me any more - If it doesn't work FIRST TIME | it's because its broken, and needs fixing. | | The first Linux distribution that produces a hassle free installer that | works (no if's, but's, or maybe's - I mean works - full stop!) | WILL SUCCEED, all the rest will only be installed by enthusiasts (which | I still count myself among) and are doomed to their rightful resting | place in the garbage bin. | | Now, it's time for my big decision - Do I, like my colleague, consign | the Ver 7 install I have spent so much time on to oblivion, and go back | to Ver 6 because it worked, or do I persevere, and try to get 7 up and | running properly, or, perhaps, do I try RedHat 6.2, or just wait for a | distro with kernel 2.4 XFree 4? I really don't know, and I really | don't expect anyone else to decide for me, I just know that my | perceptions of install problems will never be the same again. -- "Brian, the man from babbleon-on" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brian T. Schellenberger http://www.babbleon.org Support http://www.eff.org. Support decss defendents. Support http://www.programming-freedom.org. Boycott amazon.com.
Re: [expert] Mdk 7 - time to take out the trash? (long)
If you are lucky enough to have the "right hardware" that may happen to be correct. I, on the other hand had "windoze crippled" hardware that I didn't know was "windows crippled" and had to patch, work around, or replace. So the "learning curve" is double if you fall into that catagory. I must stay in 6.1 till I learn more, and buy more hardware to move up to the "new and improved" version. Vern PS I'm gathering and studing all I can on the kernel (which looks to be a life's work in itself) so I can "build" my own "custom" kernel. Till then I have a fully functional 6.1 system! On Fri, 31 Mar 2000, you wrote: TrevorI have mdk 7.0 running (as near as I can tell) flawlessly on three machines. At first one of the three would not install 7.0, but 6.1 had installed just fine on it. So I changed the ide cdrom drive to a new one and that solved the problem. But on my main personal system, where mdk 7.0 installed and runs fine, BeOS will not boot without a floppy and the sound card outputs a constant stream of static (needs to have the speakers physically unplugged while running BeOS). So I believe your allegation, "BUT, it proved you can write a hassle free installer THAT WORKS!", is not correct. It's more accurate to say that some installers work well in some situations and other installers work well in other situations. I understand that you are frustrated, but that's because your particular combination of factors led to a problematic installation/setup experience with mdk 7.0-2, much like my combination of factors led to my bad experience with BeOS. In the past I've also had a very bad experience when upgrading from Win95 to Win98. I couldn't get my ATI video card to work at all except at 640x480x16 colors. At least till I did a complete new bare hard drive install, that is. Above all, enjoy. Alan -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] KPPP Vs. PPP
Thank you! will do! Vern On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: Set it up in etc/ppp/options, and it will effect all ppp sessions. On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, vern wrote: I have a question on how to configure PPP, the MTU number to be specific. I've tried to set it with ifconfig mtu xxx which works dandy for the session (ppp0) in progress but when you restart PPP it reverts back to the old MTU (15+++) numbers! Help! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] Mdk 7 - time to take out the trash? (long)
On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: vern wrote: I likewise am back on Mdk 6.1 after a few days of trying to get 7.0 to "work". My main problem is the Intel drivers I got won't recognize the 2.2.14mdk?? kernel as a 2.2 kernel the mdk "customized" version pukes, so I am awaiting the chance to try out Red Hat 6.2 and see it the kernel in it is a little more "mainstream" I'm not advanced enough to get into kernel hacking although it's tempting sometimes! Vern I think you will find agpgart.o works fine with the latest cooker kernels. Civileme Hello again Civileme, I went to the cooker mirror here in Indiana (across the river) and downloaded kernel 2.2.15-0.17mdk, can I just do an update here in ver. 6.1? Or do I have to reinstall 7.0 then update? The "test install" in kpackage didn't result in any error messages or dependancy issues is it safe to proceed? Thought I'd better ask before I go "off the air" for a week for a total rebuild. Thanks for all your help! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] KPPP Vs. PPP
Well I tried etc/ppp/options and all that was there was a lock file. I mislead you on the KPPP vs. PPP name (newbie brain freeze) I haven't configure PPP, I have just set up KPPP. I did some noising around and found: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ ifcfg-pppX this contained all the conection info and a statement mtu= "", can I edit in the changes for mtu= "xxx" ?? or will this totally screw things up?? Thanks again! Vern On Sat, 01 Apr 2000, you wrote: Set it up in etc/ppp/options, and it will effect all ppp sessions. On Sat, 1 Apr 2000, vern wrote: I have a question on how to configure PPP, the MTU number to be specific. I've tried to set it with ifconfig mtu xxx which works dandy for the session (ppp0) in progress but when you restart PPP it reverts back to the old MTU (15+++) numbers! Help! Vern -- * Vernon Stilwell[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * R.R.#3 Box 168[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Hardinsburg, Ky. 40143 "Happiness is a warm Penguin!" * Registered User #165809
Re: [expert] compaq 7599 810 intel motherboard
I had a crash course with the i810 chipset and Mdk 6.1, which I'm still using now after removing the Mdk 7.0. The basic steps are to download the two rpms from Intel.com and the info packet on the install. The first rpm is the new Xserver and the second is a module called agpgart.o which you will need to "rebuild" against the kernel version 2.2.13 in my case. Edit the xf86config file, make the appropiate sym links and you may get video. I tried for two weeks to get Mdk 7.0 to work but the module won't recognize the new mdk kernel (2.2.14 series). I'm returning my Mdk 7.0 and applying the $50+ toward a real video card! Who knows next year I may add audio to my machine. Vern On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote: Has anyone set up a machine similar to the compaq 7599 with the 810 intel MB? The video card was not recognised during the install or after with Xconfigurator. I asume it has a winmodem. The machine is in San Francisico and I'm in Sydney so configuration until it is connected to the web is difficult. Dunc -- //- Duncan Hall - SysAdmin Viator Systems +61 2 9211 2336 -//-- Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description:
Re: [expert] Best audio/video cards for Linux??
Thanks Pj ! They are on my list! Vern On Mon, 27 Mar 2000, you wrote: Vern, I've had really good luck with these PCI cards in both W98 and L-M 6.0. They are of medium expense; have good quality and better than average performance running under a ASUS Slot 7 mobo/Intel MMX200 CPU and 64EDO. They are not fancy but they are very durable and reliable cards. I particularly like them because there were no set-up problems in w95/w98 or Linux O/S. Sound Blaster driver CD includes a console, voice, etc. I paid about $50 US retail for the cards about a year ago. I've since upgraded to a S3virge AGP. If it doesn't work under Linux, I'll substitute the PCI A-Open without hesitation. Sound Blaster 16AWE; AOPEN PT75 S3Virge3D/2D /4mb memory on board. Pj [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Best audio/video cards for Linux??
Okay Wayne thanks for the input I think the TNT Voodoo cards (the older versions) are available locally at a pretty decent price. All the gamers are waiting for the newest versions to ship to the stores here. Vern On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote: I must say that my GeForce works well under Linux. However, it is a very expensive card and not really intended for Linux so you should consider something a little less expensive. The TNT and TNT2 cards are a good buy, and you shouldn't have any trouble with the majority of SB sound cards. Wayne ** ** Wayne Petherick Criminology Department Humanities and Social Sciences Bond University Gold Coast ** **
Re: [expert] Best audio/video cards for Linux??
Ok Chris, Blasters it is! Thanks for the info, I have to add these to the list! Just "normal" audio/video needed at a reasonable cost. So these cards are very approperate! Vern On Tue, 28 Mar 2000, you wrote: Vern, For a good price/performance you may want to look into the Creative Labs Blaster Banshee (PCI). I believe they can be had for 60$ US and the 2D and 3D support in Linux is quite good. As far as sound cards go, I have a SB Live! X-gamer, and, using the drivers from http://opensource.creative.com, I am quite pleased with the sound quality. This card is a bit pricey (~$70 US) but the SB PCI 128 should also work nicely and is cheaper (~$30 US). Hope this is helpful, Chris Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="quale.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Christopher Quale
Re: [expert] News reader?
Hello Glyn! Thanks for the tip! I'll give all that a try! I missed my "Agent" the most! Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: SLRN is the answer! And it should be available on your Mandrake CD. Homepage is, http://space.mit.edu/~davis/slrn.html anmd the redoubtable Sven's slrn page is worth a visit http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/slrn/ Set it up with leafnode to collect your news so that you xcan read off-line; or just read online if that's best for you. Have a look at Martin Holland's NoEther Linux page for details of how to set this up( and where you can find leafnode!) http://www.noether.freeserve.co.uk Some really good stuff here! HTH Glyn On Sun, Mar 26, 2000 at 12:50:50PM -0500, thus spake vern: Is there a good newsreader for Linux? I've tried the one in Netscape and would like one that works both on/offine similar to Agent in that "other" OS! Vern -- ** * "The soul is greater than the hum of it's parts. " * * Douglas Hoftstatder* **
Re: [expert] News reader?
Thanks John, I'm using KRN right now but it doesn't do on/ofline operation very well, but will check out the sites mentioned. Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: Is there a good newsreader for Linux? I've tried the one in Netscape and would like one that works both on/offine similar to Agent in that "other" OS! Suggestion: take a look at KRN. There are others too. Take a look on FreshMeat.net or Linuxberg.com for a good newsreader program. John
Re: [expert] News reader?
Okay Jim. Another vote for Pan. Thanks for the help! Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: Is there a good newsreader for Linux? I've tried the one in Netscape and would like one that works both on/offine similar to Agent in that "other" OS! Vern Try Pan, it's just like agent Jim Pilrose
Re: [expert] News reader?
Okay Paul, Thanks for the help! Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, vern wrote: Is there a good newsreader for Linux? I've tried the one in Netscape and would like one that works both on/offine similar to Agent in that "other" OS! Vern Try slrn, with slrnpull for offline newsreading. Its packaged with the GPL version of Linux. Theres other stuff to fetch your news like leafnode and "suckMT." See http://www.go.to/suckmt for this. Paul Weycrest Solutions Limited http://www.weycrest.co.uk
[expert] Best audio/video cards for Linux??
I am going to be in a position here in a few weeks to purchase an audio card and a video card, and would like to get everyone's opinion on the best ones to purchase for Linux?? They have to be PCI type for my motherboard. Thanks, Vern
Re: [expert] accessing floppy and cdrom?
I want to thank you again Civileme for taking time to answer my messages! I'm back to Mandrake 6.1 now where everything is happy! Back on Kmail (my favorite), my video is full screen, high res. after applying the Intel 810 chipset patches (the module would never rebuild under the new mdk 7.0 kernel) my drives are happy and all is functional. I would like to apply the new Netscrape 4.7 to my operation so the new 7.0 disks are not a complete waste of money. I haven't had any luck with that, netscape needs a couple of libraries to work (compat-glibc, and compat-libs) tried to install them and one of the files wouldn't decompress because it was a directory and not a file. Tried the old ones from the 6.1 discs, but they are incompatible with the 4.70 on the mdk 7.0 discs. I went to the source disk and "installed" 4.70 from there via RPM (I'm no wizard) so I stay with RPM's when possible. Do you know where the files were placed when I "installed" the source 4.70 netscape? It wasn't "installed" and I need to know the next step. HELP? Thanks again for the help! Vern On Sun, 26 Mar 2000, you wrote: Vern wrote: Thanks again Civileme for answering my messages, I hope my mailer does better this time around. I have a pretty generic setup hardware wise I believe. It's a six month old Hewlett Packard Pavilion 6540C, Intel Celeron 466Mhz. All on board junk video/audio/modem I junked the modem in favor of a external USR model which worked flawlessly in MDK 6.1 I need to read my floppy which has the RPMS to drive my on board video (i810 based) it all worked in the 6.1 version. I used the "recommended" install, Lothar entered a bogus "scuzzy" device for an alternate CD-ROM (two on the list). I can spin the floppy with a manual mount command but nothing shows on the /mnt/floppy directory? I'm still using VGA16 which won't let me see all the options in the config GUI displays. Thanks again for taking the time to mess with all this "newbie" stuff! Vern