[expert] KDE2 and KDE3 together: NO WAY :-(
Tryed Robert Fox message; startkde from a Xtar 0 options but NO WAY; everything is runing until first restart or shutdown of the computer; from this point when I select 1 from Xtart I have a kde3 with the kde2 configuration :-(( The same happens also if I use kdm :-( A, there is another bug, again the Euro symbol has dessapeared from the kde applications (it was finally solved for kde2 in Mandrake 8.2), now again crashtes :-( Where the problem is?, changing the pat in /etc/profile.d/kde3.sh don't run form me :-(( Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE2 problem to run after install KDE3 (mandrake 8.2)
I did: Starkde, and then: Xset: unable to open display " DCOP: register 'anonymous-4312' kwin: cannot connect to X server kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server. If a select 1 using Xtart (kde) it spend a long time and finally it start a kde3 with the old kde 2.2 configuration Could anyone help me to have both kdes runing? Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] kde2
hi guys, have some pbs with kde2.1-2. after install. Can no more connect my ISDN with kISDN, versus kcmkisdn=configuration ! error= for security .. use as root, sudo or su1 ! Logged-in as root: same message. Any help fully appreciated. Eric MC
Re: [expert] KDE2 Problem
Thanks,did not no I had html enabled. Chris is planning on having updated rpms soon, I have complete faith in him !
Re: [expert] KDE2 Problem
Dale, Please turn off html in your mailer. I replaced kdebase with an old version from the supporte Mandrake updates(kdebase-2.0-7mdk.) This has fixed kdm and has not caused any other problem that I have found with - caveat emptor. Most of my kde packages are still kde*-2.1-0.20010115 -Mark > Dale Kosan wrote: > > Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm > --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from > text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by > "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system > users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other > window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone > have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your time. -- Mark Belanger LTX Corporation
[expert] KDE2 Problem
Hello,installed the KDE2 rpms and all went well.I did a "rpm -Uvf *.rpm --test" and it came back with no failed dependencies.I then installed from text console outside of x.I then did a "rpm --rebuilddb" followed by "update-menus -v" Once I went to log in I found a whole bunch of system users,no biggie,but I now only have KDE, default, and failsafe, all other window managers are gone. I have seen that this seems to be common, anyone have a fix for the bug? Should I report it and to who? Thanks for your time.
Re: [expert] KDE2 Version 2.1 20001213 Printing problems
Yes, I have the same problem with konqueror under 2.1 as well as the apps you mentioned. On Saturday 23 December 2000 10:53, you wrote: > Hi all: > I have just finished up dating my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest KDE2 2.1 betas > from the nebsllc ftp site and I now find that I can not print from kmail > and Knode the ok button is grayed out. I have all the normal updates > applied, and have done the updatedb, rpm --rebuilddb, update-menus thing > after the install of 2.1, then even did a restart, and then restarted the > xserver several times all seems to work flawlessly excepet for this. Anyone > have any ideas as to what the problem is. Printing was working in KDE2 > 2.0.1. -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design
[expert] KDE2 Version 2.1 20001213 Printing problems
Hi all: I have just finished up dating my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest KDE2 2.1 betas from the nebsllc ftp site and I now find that I can not print from kmail and Knode the ok button is grayed out. I have all the normal updates applied, and have done the updatedb, rpm --rebuilddb, update-menus thing after the install of 2.1, then even did a restart, and then restarted the xserver several times all seems to work flawlessly excepet for this. Anyone have any ideas as to what the problem is. Printing was working in KDE2 2.0.1. -- Ralph F. De Witt It said uses Windows 98 or better so I installed Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Proud user of Linux-Mandrake 7.2 Powerpack Deluxe Register Linux User 168814 ICQ #49993234
[expert] KDE2 question
This probably isn't quite the right venue for this but I'm going to ask anyway. I recently upgraded by 7.0 box so I could check out KDE2. Everything is fine and happy until I try to run a second X session on a different pty. Then when you return to KDE, its hosed. Everything is still running but new windows only display the widgets inside, windows opened prior to switching over don't redraw and most of them have large chunks missing. Now it could be something odd with the backing store perhaps the video card, but Gnome doesn't have this problem so I am leary to blame it on a hardware issue. I don't particularly have a need to run multiple X sessions, however when the need arises it would be nice to not have to kill sessions in order to switch back and forth. Has anyone else seen this behavior? have a workaround? -- Matthew Micene Systems Development Manager Express Search Inc. www.ExpressSearch.com A host is a host from coast to coast, and no one will talk to a host too close Unless the host that isn't close is busy, hung or dead Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 and kaimon
this is definitely abnormal.. something is running in the background that shouldn't be running! while in KDE, press Ctrl-Esc and u'lll see KSysGuard program running.. check the CPU usage and see which process is the culprit.. kill it! -sarang On Friday 01 December 2000 01:32, you wrote: > > I am getting a 85-95% cpu usage from kde on LM 7.2 > > Is this the ususal behavior? > > For instance on one machine user 'X' uses XCFE usage barely registers > Then user 'Y' logs in with KDE and suddenly "TOP" shows 95% CPU usage. > user 'Y' logs out of KDE and logs in with XFCE or other WM even > Enlightenment and the CPU usage goes back to minimal. > > Just curious if this was normal or something misconfigure on the > machine in question!? > > William Bouterse > Talkeetna Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- -- Sarang Lakare Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2 and kaimon
I am getting a 85-95% cpu usage from kde on LM 7.2 Is this the ususal behavior? For instance on one machine user 'X' uses XCFE usage barely registers Then user 'Y' logs in with KDE and suddenly "TOP" shows 95% CPU usage. user 'Y' logs out of KDE and logs in with XFCE or other WM even Enlightenment and the CPU usage goes back to minimal. Just curious if this was normal or something misconfigure on the machine in question!? William Bouterse Talkeetna Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 and right click menu
okay, this is what i have discovered, in user file manager altering the properties of an application desktop config file in /.kde/share/applnk/./app.desktop does indeed do the same as going into settings>configure>file associations, however to have an application associated with all files one has to go the latter route in order to set the file name pattern associated with all/allfiles, unfortunately if left blank it has no effect, if assigned to * then all files will have this association as well as their existing ones but they will all have the same icon as as that defined for all/allfiles which really doesn't look nice, which means i can't do what i want, which is to have an editor associated for all unknown files so that if i don't know what a file is i can load it into an editor to see if that gives me a clue, without having to go open with>browse, windows has 'send to' off the right click menu i thought i could get kde to have the same functionality but i can't see how, dragging to an icon on the desktop requires visible desktop and dragging to the task bar can be hit and miss with those small icons i like to have in order to maximise deskspace. anyone not asleep after reading this who has an idea how i may do what i want please chip in, bascule On Monday 27 November 2000 2:05 am, I wrote: > > i am trying to configure kde so that a right click on any file will give > the option of opening in an editor, > i don't know wether to do this by editing the properties of the .desktop > file for that editor so that under file types appears all/all files or to > go to configure>file associations and set all/all to have the association > editor with file pattern blank, are these two routes showing the same > configuration info, have i made sense? is there a better way? is there life > on mars... > > bascule > > bleep bleep...out of cheese error...bleep bleep...please reboot universe... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2 and right click menu
i am trying to configure kde so that a right click on any file will give the option of opening in an editor, i don't know wether to do this by editing the properties of the .desktop file for that editor so that under file types appears all/all files or to go to configure>file associations and set all/all to have the association editor with file pattern blank, are these two routes showing the same configuration info, have i made sense? is there a better way? is there life on mars... bascule bleep bleep...out of cheese error...bleep bleep...please reboot universe... Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] KDE2 Toolbars
Hello List ! I want text under the icons in the toolbars. In one beta you could change that for every kde application, but now in KDE final this option is gone. Only a global setting is there, but it doesn't work. I can chose whatever I want (text only, icon only, text under icon, text beside icon) it only shows the icon without text. Any hints? Timo Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2: "usr/lib/libkdeui.so.3: undefined symbol: event__9QLineEditP6QEvent"
Trying to use kde2 in a 7.1 system with XFree 4.01 I get the above error message. I can run kde or other window managers but most applications won't run. Same error message when I try toi run "kbuildsycoca" Any suggestions? Thanks Tom W. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] KDE2 isn't good with internationalisation?
I was just going to send a mail on this but now you did...:-) I've been using KDE for a long time on SuSE and Caldera mostly, now I decided to test Mandrake mainly because it's the only dist having KDE2 (and because I'm going to have a course in Linux OS for newbies for a computer company soon). I'm used to (and need to) having two different keyboard layout to be able to work in old KDE that was very easy to fix and convenient to change between these two (swedish & icelandic), but now there's no icelandic keyboard layout in this damn thing! I know that the icelandic KDE translators have been working very hard to get ready for the KDE2 and now this! I've never used any other way to konfigure the extra keyboard than KCC so if someone can give a hint on howto I would be grateful. Cheers, ei On Saturday 11 November 2000 10:01, you wrote: -> -> Hello. -> I'v installed KDE2 and was surprised when I saw -> keyboards layouts menu. A lot of people spent days on -> internationalisation but keyboards layouts are similar -> to XFree86 settings. So turkish people for example -> must effort on "teaching" KDE to use tr_q keyboard for -> example. ->How we can do this? Xmodmap is a good choise but -> not the best. -> And why KDE "missed" such stuff? -> Sincerely -> -> = -> Vasif Ismailoglu MDResident in Urology School of Medicine of Cerrahpasa[EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Istanbul www.vasif.cjb.net Department of Urology -> -> __ -> Do You Yahoo!? -> Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. -> http://shopping.yahoo.com/ -> -> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- EagleIce * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Running Linux & KDE * Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] KDE2 isn't good with internationalisation?
Hello. I'v installed KDE2 and was surprised when I saw keyboards layouts menu. A lot of people spent days on internationalisation but keyboards layouts are similar to XFree86 settings. So turkish people for example must effort on "teaching" KDE to use tr_q keyboard for example. How we can do this? Xmodmap is a good choise but not the best. And why KDE "missed" such stuff? Sincerely = Vasif Ismailoglu MDResident in Urology School of Medicine of Cerrahpasa [EMAIL PROTECTED] University of Istanbul www.vasif.cjb.net Department of Urology __ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
I did that first, but when kde events didnt work I tried harddrake. After that, even running sndconfig again will not re-enable sounds at all. The test sounds come through, and that is it. Oh well I d/l'ed the two cd's yesterday, just haven't had a chance to install them yet (Halloween ya know) -Original Message- From: Cecil Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:25 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds At the console (as root) type sndconfig. This should set it up for midi also. I had a AWE64 which got setup okay, but something was wrong with the card. I'm now using a Aureal A3 based sound card which also works fine. Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: > I have recently purchased 7.2 complete. The installation went alright, there are a lot of things do be desired > in my opinion though. However, I can not get kde2 sound events to work on this machine. I ran harddrake, > and heard all the sounds. My card is a SB AWE64 value, however mandrake wants to set it up with no midi > support, and windows sets it up for midi. The IRQ's and IO's are the same as in windows from harddrake > detection. However after running harddrake, I get no sound at all, and linux complains about failure to > initialize sound. The card is ISA. Any help appreciated! > > P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support, and the installation guide > states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is that an understatement. > > This is a MacMillan packaging > > Downloading the ISO of 7.2 now > > Brian D. Klar - CVE > OTS > WPAFB > (937)257-5773 > 937-973-3125 (Pager) > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
At the console (as root) type sndconfig. This should set it up for midi also. I had a AWE64 which got setup okay, but something was wrong with the card. I'm now using a Aureal A3 based sound card which also works fine. Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: > I have recently purchased 7.2 complete. The installation went alright, there are a >lot of things do be desired > in my opinion though. However, I can not get kde2 sound events to work on this >machine. I ran harddrake, > and heard all the sounds. My card is a SB AWE64 value, however mandrake wants to set >it up with no midi > support, and windows sets it up for midi. The IRQ's and IO's are the same as in >windows from harddrake > detection. However after running harddrake, I get no sound at all, and linux >complains about failure to > initialize sound. The card is ISA. Any help appreciated! > > P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support, >and the installation guide > states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is >that an understatement. > > This is a MacMillan packaging > > Downloading the ISO of 7.2 now > > Brian D. Klar - CVE > OTS > WPAFB > (937)257-5773 > 937-973-3125 (Pager) > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
what about 2000? We have a 2000 machine here which reboots after you close a certain application! isn't that rediculos.. and ya, it indeed is with service pack 1! -sarang On Tuesday 31 October 2000 15:48, you wrote: > > True, but in the M$ world, anything goes to final! :) > > -Original Message- > From: Cecil Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:19 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds > > > I have never heard of anyone releasing to the public (for sale) beta > > version without stating it was such. > > M$ Windows 3.X, 9X & NT... ;-) > Sorry could resist. Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: -- - Sarang Lakare Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
> Most definitely not recent, or final. Hell they are using kde2rc2 > (which is some of my problem). I bought it last Saturday at Walmart. > I have never purchased a Mandrake, this was a first, and maybe a last. It's pretty obvious that these distro companies have their expertise in computer geekdom rather than in marketing :-) I hope they don't all end up shooting the Linux in the foot as they are doing it to themselves but it's clear that this sort of thing is going to upset a lot of people, turn off a lot of newbies trying to make it work and confirm what the naysayers say about the problems with open source development/distribution. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
> Please don't confuse Mandrake with Macmillan. OTOH, all new releases have to be When it comes to distribution of Linux Mandrake they are one and the same. > considered experimental. Linux as well as *the other*. Usually they'll tell > you so if you ask. But Mandrake tries to get the known bugs out, anyway. This is the epitomy of being an apologist. They say "it's not good enough to release so we'll call it beta" and then wrap it in plastic and sell it. > (Actually, for all the criticism that it's been hit with lately, I don't think > that Red Hat has been doing a bad job either. They're just a bit adventurous. And a hearty hi-oh silver. So because Microsoft does things poorly it's ok for others to do it poorly too? Personally, I don't want "adventurous" when it comes to my operating system. Computers are not toys for most people who use them. Your mileage may vary but I doubt you'll get much support for this view in the corporate world. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
True, but in the M$ world, anything goes to final! :) -Original Message- From: Cecil Watson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 2:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds > I have never heard of anyone releasing to the public (for sale) beta version > without stating it was such. M$ Windows 3.X, 9X & NT... ;-) Sorry could resist. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote: > Most definitely not recent, or final. Hell they are using kde2rc2 > (which is some of my problem). I bought it last Saturday at Walmart. > I have never purchased a Mandrake, this was a first, and maybe a last. > I have never heard of anyone releasing to the public (for sale) beta version > without stating it was such. Oh well burning the one disc now and d/l'ing > second now. Please don't confuse Mandrake with Macmillan. OTOH, all new releases have to be considered experimental. Linux as well as *the other*. Usually they'll tell you so if you ask. But Mandrake tries to get the known bugs out, anyway. (Actually, for all the criticism that it's been hit with lately, I don't think that Red Hat has been doing a bad job either. They're just a bit adventurous.) My system at home hasn't given me any grief since I did a clean install. But their timing was a bit off this time. The word seems to be that KDE2 is a bear to install if you already have KDE1 installed. -- (c) Charles Hixson -- Addition of advertisements or hyperlinks to products specifically prohibited Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
> I have never heard of anyone releasing to the public (for sale) beta version > without stating it was such. M$ Windows 3.X, 9X & NT... ;-) Sorry could resist. Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
Most definitely not recent, or final. Hell they are using kde2rc2 (which is some of my problem). I bought it last Saturday at Walmart. I have never purchased a Mandrake, this was a first, and maybe a last. I have never heard of anyone releasing to the public (for sale) beta version without stating it was such. Oh well burning the one disc now and d/l'ing second now. -Original Message- From: Larry Marshall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 31, 2000 11:41 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds > P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support, and the installation guide > states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is that an understatement. You should be able to load up fstab and get rid of the supermounting if you want to. Personally, I haven't had problems with it. > This is a MacMillan packaging I'm sure glad to see you stating this clearly as they seem to be denying the possiblity that this was the case. Since yours IS a MacMillan package, it means that their release is not as current as the iso that's just been mirrored around the world. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 sound event sounds
> P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support, >and the installation guide > states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is >that an understatement. You should be able to load up fstab and get rid of the supermounting if you want to. Personally, I haven't had problems with it. > This is a MacMillan packaging I'm sure glad to see you stating this clearly as they seem to be denying the possiblity that this was the case. Since yours IS a MacMillan package, it means that their release is not as current as the iso that's just been mirrored around the world. Cheers --- Larry Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2 sound event sounds
I have recently purchased 7.2 complete. The installation went alright, there are a lot of things do be desired in my opinion though. However, I can not get kde2 sound events to work on this machine. I ran harddrake, and heard all the sounds. My card is a SB AWE64 value, however mandrake wants to set it up with no midi support, and windows sets it up for midi. The IRQ's and IO's are the same as in windows from harddrake detection. However after running harddrake, I get no sound at all, and linux complains about failure to initialize sound. The card is ISA. Any help appreciated! P.S. - with complete I could find no way to not install without supermount support, and the installation guide states that it was written for power pack, so not all things are the same, boy is that an understatement. This is a MacMillan packaging Downloading the ISO of 7.2 now Brian D. Klar - CVE OTS WPAFB (937)257-5773 937-973-3125 (Pager) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
That is what I make by putting together announcements made by Mandrake insiders on linuxtoday and stories on mandrakeforum. Start checking your local mirrors and get there before someone posts to slashdot ! Buchan Leopold Palomo wrote: > > Buchan Milne wrote: > > > Why don't you just wait another 5 days for mdk7.2 to come out, and use > > the new rpm and menu from there (which won't be compiled with > > glibc2.96). Also, have you tried using another version of rpm and > > compiling menu from source ? > > > > Buchan > > > > Are you saying that mdk 7.2 will be official in few days with de kde2? > > Leo > > Leopold Palomo Avellaneda > > Linux User 152692 > Catalonia > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Buchan Milne wrote: > Why don't you just wait another 5 days for mdk7.2 to come out, and use > the new rpm and menu from there (which won't be compiled with > glibc2.96). Also, have you tried using another version of rpm and > compiling menu from source ? > > Buchan > Are you saying that mdk 7.2 will be official in few days with de kde2? Leo Leopold Palomo Avellaneda Linux User 152692 Catalonia Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Install the tar files. I rpm -e every kde1.1.x file, and compiled kde2 with no problem. I agree that it wasn't the best of moves to compile kde2 against 7.2 beta. Not a whole lot of us install the beta of linux. -Original Message- From: Praedor Tempus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1 Aravind Sadagopan wrote: > > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 > > system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome Heh, heh. It turns out that you will have to upgrade almost everything. To install and use kde 2.0, you need to upgrade rpm and menu. These upgrades require glibc to be upgraded to THE latest (and by some accounts, broken) version. THIS breaks almost every app on your system so you also have to upgrade them (just download the latest glibc-2.96 or whatever it is and try to install it WITHOUT using the --nodeps or --force switch, you will get a LONG list of rpms that will be broken if you install it. These rpms are the same ones you would have to upgrade). I am debated breaking my stable 7.1 system just for the sake of using kde 2.0. You have to essentially make your system an unstable cooker or 7.2beta system to make all things right. praedor Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Or better yet, according to the developers there will be 2.01 out in 4-5 weeks. Unbelievable. I don't understand why they didn't yet hold off on kde2 until then -Original Message- From: Buchan Milne [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2000 7:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1 Why don't you just wait another 5 days for mdk7.2 to come out, and use the new rpm and menu from there (which won't be compiled with glibc2.96). Also, have you tried using another version of rpm and compiling menu from source ? Buchan Praedor Tempus wrote: > > Aravind Sadagopan wrote: > > > > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake >7.1 > > > > system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome > > Heh, heh. > > It turns out that you will have to upgrade almost everything. > > To install and use kde 2.0, you need to upgrade rpm and menu. These > upgrades require glibc to be upgraded to THE latest (and by some > accounts, > broken) version. THIS breaks almost every app on your system so you > also > have to upgrade them (just download the latest glibc-2.96 or whatever it > is and try to install it WITHOUT using the --nodeps or --force switch, > you will get a LONG list of rpms that will be broken if you install it. > These rpms are the same ones you would have to upgrade). > > I am debated breaking my stable 7.1 system just for the sake of using > kde 2.0. You have to essentially make your system an unstable cooker > or 7.2beta system to make all things right. > > praedor > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Why don't you just wait another 5 days for mdk7.2 to come out, and use the new rpm and menu from there (which won't be compiled with glibc2.96). Also, have you tried using another version of rpm and compiling menu from source ? Buchan Praedor Tempus wrote: > > Aravind Sadagopan wrote: > > > > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake >7.1 > > > > system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome > > Heh, heh. > > It turns out that you will have to upgrade almost everything. > > To install and use kde 2.0, you need to upgrade rpm and menu. These > upgrades require glibc to be upgraded to THE latest (and by some > accounts, > broken) version. THIS breaks almost every app on your system so you > also > have to upgrade them (just download the latest glibc-2.96 or whatever it > is and try to install it WITHOUT using the --nodeps or --force switch, > you will get a LONG list of rpms that will be broken if you install it. > These rpms are the same ones you would have to upgrade). > > I am debated breaking my stable 7.1 system just for the sake of using > kde 2.0. You have to essentially make your system an unstable cooker > or 7.2beta system to make all things right. > > praedor > > > Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: > Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list. -- |--| Buchan MilneMechanical Engineer, Network Manager Cellphone +27824722231 email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Centre for Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za South Africas first satellite:http://sunsat.ee.sun.ac.za Control Models http://www.control.co.za |Registered Linux User #182071-| Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Check ftp.kde.org. all the file you need are located there. I personally needed upgrade from pam-07.2-9 to pam-0.72-12 because otherwise kdm does not allow logins anymore (that is a little bit anoying). Marcus On Tue, 24 Oct 2000, you wrote: > > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my > Mandrake 7.1 > > system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome > > Cheers > > Aravind S Content-Type: text/plain; name="message.footer" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Description: Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Aravind Sadagopan wrote: > > Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 > > system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome Heh, heh. It turns out that you will have to upgrade almost everything. To install and use kde 2.0, you need to upgrade rpm and menu. These upgrades require glibc to be upgraded to THE latest (and by some accounts, broken) version. THIS breaks almost every app on your system so you also have to upgrade them (just download the latest glibc-2.96 or whatever it is and try to install it WITHOUT using the --nodeps or --force switch, you will get a LONG list of rpms that will be broken if you install it. These rpms are the same ones you would have to upgrade). I am debated breaking my stable 7.1 system just for the sake of using kde 2.0. You have to essentially make your system an unstable cooker or 7.2beta system to make all things right. praedor Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
RE: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
There are a bunch: htdig, pam, qt-2.2.1, openssl, menu, mandrake_desk, bzip2, rpm-3.0.5 (at least for rc2, you may need 4.0 since mandrake built their rpms againist 7.2 beta), I know there are more, but there is a good start. I ended up rpm -e all kde 1.1.2 files and installing the tar files for rc2. I havent had a chance to install the rpm's (or try) from mandrake for kde2 final. I figure I will have to install the tar files again. I Don't know if this site is still a valid one for installation since kde2 has gone final but you could check: http://virtualartisans.com/linux/mandrake/ -Original Message- From: Aravind Sadagopan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2000 4:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1 Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome Cheers Aravind S Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2 on Mandrake 7.1
Can anybody tell me what are the packages to be installed to upgrade my Mandrake 7.1 system to support kde2..Any pointers are lso welcome Cheers Aravind S Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
[expert] kde2
I finally have a workable KDE2. I followed someones link posted on here, downloaded all the tar balls and installed. Takes forever (it seems) it compile, but in the end, KDE2 works like a champ. After about 4 different downloads of Mandrake RPM's and all failing attempts. I do have one problem though. Some of the .tar files error on /lib/lddlso.1 (something like it at least) but the tar files just say can't find -- skipping. And work. I only have one real issue (if you can even call it an issue), how is it that root has sound, but not a user? My radio card will work as user, but not KDE sound schemes. And Xmms will not work in KDE2. Thats it. 3 weeks of H*ll for the rpm's, one evening with the result of satisfaction with tar files. Brian D. Klar - CVE OTS WPAFB (937)257-5773 937-973-3125 (Pager) Keep in touch with http://mandrakeforum.com: Subscribe the "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" mailing list.
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown - solved
all i did was go to console ctrl-alt-F1, did init 3 to go into runlevel 3 and then init 5 to get back to runlevel 5 and everything was ok... i selected KDE and there i go into KDE 2!!! i don't like/want to reboot my machine.. so these are shortcuts which help me :) -sarang Sarang Lakare wrote: > > I installed as you said.. but then I logged out of GNOME and found a weird > login screen.. with kde, gnone, .. failsafe.. all listed on one line.. so i > can't select between them.. and then when i login, it be default goes to > IceWM.. > > what do I do? how do i get the login menu back? how do i login to kde2 or > gnome? which file decides that?? > > this is urgent. > > thanks > sarang
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, you wrote: > I installed as you said.. but then I logged out of GNOME and found a weird > login screen.. with kde, gnone, .. failsafe.. all listed on one line.. so i > can't select between them.. and then when i login, it be default goes to > IceWM.. > > what do I do? how do i get the login menu back? how do i login to kde2 or > gnome? which file decides that?? > > this is urgent. > > thanks > sarang you need to update another package, i am going from memory but i think it was mandrake desk maybe somebody else could confirm this regards mark
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
> I say it's bad because I want my KDE2 stuff in /opt/kde2, so I can have > both KDEs installed at the same time. All of the KDE packages I've seen are relocatable. You can do rpm --install .rpm --prefix=/opt/kde2 and it will do what you want. Last I checked, there were still one or 2 files that conflicted (in /etc) but I moved them out of the way manually and then forced the RPM install, and all went fine. -- Ben Reed ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://defiance.dyndns.org/ Fight the InterNIC! http://www.opennic.unrated.net/
RE: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Mine that I download from molnar's site all installed to /opt -Original Message- From: Asheesh Laroia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Anton Graham wrote: > Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia: > > > What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait > > () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 > > optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make > > some packages for it? > > Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around. > You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them: Yes, but these RPMS were compiled with ./configure --prefix=/usr and that's bad ;-(. I say it's bad because I want my KDE2 stuff in /opt/kde2, so I can have both KDEs installed at the same time. Ah well. Maybe I'll see some more /opt RPMS sometime soon. Or maybe I'm horribly mistaken, and I just need to download these. Anyone care to prove me wrong? - Asheesh Laroia. > kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm AAAHH!! Old games? Please? That's the most important package in the KDE2 distribution!! -- Life begins at the centerfold and expands outward. -- Miss November, 1966
RE: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Let's hope this isn't the final beta. Every time I enter configuration, it is fine until I close the configuration box, then the crash handler. I have yet to get the sound events to work. Although my TV card sound is fine, as is XMMS. There are too many other quirks for me to use this as a desktop if it is final. -Original Message- From: Anton Graham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 1:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia: > What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait > () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 > optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make > some packages for it? Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around. You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them: ncftp ...r/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS > ls kde[a-z]* kdeaddutils-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeaddutils-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-1.93-3mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-1.93-3mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-1.93-2mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-devel-1.93-2mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request "Most people would like to be delivered from temptation but would like it to keep in touch." -- Robert Orben
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
* On Thursday, August 24, Sarang Lakare wrote: > I installed as you said.. but then I logged out of GNOME and found a weird > login screen.. with kde, gnone, .. failsafe.. all listed on one line.. so i > can't select between them.. and then when i login, it be default goes to > IceWM.. I don't use kdm, so I didn't notice this myself, but I can reproduce the problem on my machine. How to fix kdm I don't know. But to get the system running you could boot into run level 3 instead of 5, and then start X and KDE manually. If you use GRUB, you can 'e'dit your boot command at the initial boot screen. Just add a '3' to the line, and boot it. This should get you into run level 3 (no X). Alternatively, you can type 'init 3' in a terminal window when you have the system up. Then put the line 'startkde' in your $HOME/.xinitrc file (comment out whatever is there before about other window managers). Then type 'startx' at the prompt, and you should be fine. > this is urgent. Sorry to keep you waiting, but I've been sleeping ;-). Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg"But how can one be warm alone?"
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Chmouel Boudjnah: > and i'm sure Chris would never want to violate the FHS (and if he > don't care i'm sure some others mdksoft developers care about this > ;). Well I wasn't going to mention that part :p -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request There is nothing wrong with writing ... as long as it is done in private and you wash your hands afterward.
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
I installed as you said.. but then I logged out of GNOME and found a weird login screen.. with kde, gnone, .. failsafe.. all listed on one line.. so i can't select between them.. and then when i login, it be default goes to IceWM.. what do I do? how do i get the login menu back? how do i login to kde2 or gnome? which file decides that?? this is urgent. thanks sarang
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Anton Graham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Ah well. Maybe I'll see some more /opt RPMS sometime soon. > You may be able to convince Chris to package some that way, but he's been > very busy lately just keeping on top of the CVS snapshots. and i'm sure Chris would never want to violate the FHS (and if he don't care i'm sure some others mdksoft developers care about this ;). -- MandrakeSoft Inc http://www.chmouel.org San-Francisco, CA USA --Chmouel
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Hi Sarang! Well, get qt-2.2...rpm and kde*-1.93...rpm Then rpm -Uvh in this order: qt-2.2... kdesupport kdelib kdebase kde* This should work. I had some problems with dependencies, so you might rpm -e --nodeps some of the old kde*-1.1...rpm's first. HTH Jesper * On Thursday, August 24, Sarang Lakare wrote: > can anyone give a short description how to install KDE 2.. I use GNOME > (waiting for KDE 2.0 to come out ;) and so want to install KDE 2 on top of > KDE 1.1.. and now I am too eager to install the latest beta.. > > I know from where to get teh rpms.. but how to install them once i get > them.. i mean any perticular order etc? > > -sarang > -- Jesper Holmberg"But how can one be warm alone?"
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
can anyone give a short description how to install KDE 2.. I use GNOME (waiting for KDE 2.0 to come out ;) and so want to install KDE 2 on top of KDE 1.1.. and now I am too eager to install the latest beta.. I know from where to get teh rpms.. but how to install them once i get them.. i mean any perticular order etc? -sarang
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Well, I've installed it all (kde*-1.93...rpm, koffice-1.93...rpm). Looks incredible! But I can't get KOffice to work. While starting e.g. KWord, I get the following response: koffice (lib kofficecore): WARNING: Office/kword.desktop: no X-KDE-NativeMimeType entry! koffice (lib kofficecore): ERROR: Couldn't find the native MimeType in kword's desktop file. Check your installation ! Does anyone know what might be the problem here? Jesper -- Jesper Holmberg"But how can one be warm alone?"
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Anton Graham wrote: > > Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Alan N: > > Upon install ( in proper order ) I get upon installing kde-base I > > believe, the rpm requires kde-qt addon. > > But this is SUPPOSED to be supplied by kde-support ( which rpm uvh'ed OK > > ).. > > Know problem. Chris has said to use --force on it. > > -- > Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request > > I remember Ulysses well... Left one day for the post office to mail a > letter, met a blonde named Circe on the streetcar, and didn't come back for > 20 years. Thanks!
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Alan N: > Upon install ( in proper order ) I get upon installing kde-base I > believe, the rpm requires kde-qt addon. > But this is SUPPOSED to be supplied by kde-support ( which rpm uvh'ed OK > ).. Know problem. Chris has said to use --force on it. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request I remember Ulysses well... Left one day for the post office to mail a letter, met a blonde named Circe on the streetcar, and didn't come back for 20 years.
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If you are looking for the latest release I'm not sure if there have been > any significant changes *but* if you are just looking for both versions > there is a great site .. > > http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html ... which explains the process for > installing both. Also the page that this is a link from: > http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/192-2810/index.html ... has ALL > the currently built RPMS as well as the qt stuff and src. If you are I tried this site the other day and got everything, however, theres a problem. Upon install ( in proper order ) I get upon installing kde-base I believe, the rpm requires kde-qt addon. But this is SUPPOSED to be supplied by kde-support ( which rpm uvh'ed OK ).. I get stuck here and cannot find this file.. Anyone help? Alan
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, you wrote: > I noticed there was a new version of KDE2 beta (version 1.93) available at > KDE.org. I guess it's kalled kooldown because it's the final beta before > the September 4 release. > > Has anyone seen Mandrake RPMS for it? > Sincerely, > > Asheesh Laroia. Those files are now being uploaded into the different mirror sites, find the closest one to you and enjoy...! a sample: /kdebase-1.93-4mdk.i586.rpm° Sergio Korlowsky
Re: [expert] kde2 rpm's
Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Sheldon: > Does anyone know if the kde2 rpms in cooker can be redirected > to /opt/kde2 instead of /usr? Can it be done? yes. Will they work there? Maybe, but probably not "out of the box". Certain things may be out of whack, like menu entries that point to /usr/bin instead of /opt/kde2/bin, so it would require some tweaking and perseverance on your part. -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request Don't try to outweird me, three-eyes. I get stranger things than you free with my breakfast cereal." -- Zaphod Beeblebrox [Douglas Adams, "Hithiker's Guide to the Galaxy"]
[expert] kde2 rpm's
Does anyone know if the kde2 rpms in cooker can be redirected to /opt/kde2 instead of /usr?
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia:
>> Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around.
>> You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them:
> Yes, but these RPMS were compiled with
> ./configure --prefix=/usr
Actually, it's %configure these days. Or, if that is broken for the
particular RPM, ./configure --prefix=%{_prefix}. Standardization :p
> and that's bad ;-(.
They were compiled that way, because cooker no longer contains kde1 (and
neither will mdk 7.2). We do have kde1 compatibility packages for those
non-kde2 compliant apps.
> I say it's bad because I want my KDE2 stuff in /opt/kde2, so I can have
> both KDEs installed at the same time.
I understand where you're coming from. KDE2 *is* beta, and lots of pieces
of it crash fairly regularly (kcontrol is segfaulting at startup right now).
> Ah well. Maybe I'll see some more /opt RPMS sometime soon.
You may be able to convince Chris to package some that way, but he's been
very busy lately just keeping on top of the CVS snapshots.
>> kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm
> AAAHH!! Old games? Please? That's the most important package in the
> KDE2 distribution!!
lol. He probably had problems building the latest kdetoys. It's better to
not release it than release it in an unusable state.
--
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Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
If you are looking for the latest release I'm not sure if there have been any significant changes *but* if you are just looking for both versions there is a great site .. http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html ... which explains the process for installing both. Also the page that this is a link from: http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc/192-2810/index.html ... has ALL the currently built RPMS as well as the qt stuff and src. If you are looking for the latest snapshot and they are not here your other option .. (although I get evil looks when I say this) is use another machine to install the src as you see fit, and then make you're own RPMS =o)j/k Hope this helps Lonny Selinger Asheesh Laroia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/23/2000 11:40:08 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: (bcc: Lonny Selinger/SaskPower) Subject: Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Anton Graham wrote: > Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia: > > > What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait > > () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 > > optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make > > some packages for it? > > Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around. > You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them: Yes, but these RPMS were compiled with ./configure --prefix=/usr and that's bad ;-(. I say it's bad because I want my KDE2 stuff in /opt/kde2, so I can have both KDEs installed at the same time. Ah well. Maybe I'll see some more /opt RPMS sometime soon. Or maybe I'm horribly mistaken, and I just need to download these. Anyone care to prove me wrong? - Asheesh Laroia. > kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm AAAHH!! Old games? Please? That's the most important package in the KDE2 distribution!! -- Life begins at the centerfold and expands outward. -- Miss November, 1966
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Anton Graham wrote: > Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia: > > > What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait > > () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 > > optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make > > some packages for it? > > Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around. > You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them: Yes, but these RPMS were compiled with ./configure --prefix=/usr and that's bad ;-(. I say it's bad because I want my KDE2 stuff in /opt/kde2, so I can have both KDEs installed at the same time. Ah well. Maybe I'll see some more /opt RPMS sometime soon. Or maybe I'm horribly mistaken, and I just need to download these. Anyone care to prove me wrong? - Asheesh Laroia. > kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm AAAHH!! Old games? Please? That's the most important package in the KDE2 distribution!! -- Life begins at the centerfold and expands outward. -- Miss November, 1966
Re: [expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
Submitted 23-Aug-00 by Asheesh Laroia: > What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait > () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 > optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make > some packages for it? Mandrake builds what are widely considered to be the best KDE2 rpms around. You have to look in the cooker (development) mirrors to find them: ncftp ...r/cooker/Mandrake/RPMS > ls kde[a-z]* kdeaddutils-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeaddutils-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeadmin-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdemultimedia-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-1.93-3mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdebase-devel-1.93-3mdk.i586.rpm kdenetwork-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegames-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdepim-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesdk-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdegraphics-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-1.93-2mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdesupport-devel-1.93-2mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-devel-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdetoys-1.92-15mdk.i586.rpm kdelibs-sound-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm kdeutils-1.93-1mdk.i586.rpm -- Anton GrahamGPG ID: 0x18F78541 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> RSA key available upon request "Most people would like to be delivered from temptation but would like it to keep in touch." -- Robert Orben
[expert] KDE2 Beta 4: Kooldown
I noticed there was a new version of KDE2 beta (version 1.93) available at KDE.org. I guess it's kalled kooldown because it's the final beta before the September 4 release. Has anyone seen Mandrake RPMS for it? Amazingly enough, there are SUSE 6.4 RPMS available from ftp.kde.org, even though I couldn't find the source code! I could only find the 1.92 source code in the 2.0Beta4 directory. Weird, isn't it? What is a poor little Mandrake user to do? Should I just wait () for Mandrake to get the source and compile it with 586 optimizations? Should I grab from CVS? Can anyone else (please..?) make some packages for it? Oh, bother. (As Winnie the Pooh would have said.) Ideas, anyone? Packages? Source? CVS? Sincerely, Asheesh Laroia. -- 'fortune' output: Has everyone noticed that all the letters of the word "database" are typed with the left hand? Now the layout of the QWERTYUIOP typewriter keyboard was designed, among other things, to facilitate the even use of both hands. It follows, therefore, that writing about databases is not only unnatural, but a lot harder than it appears.
[expert] KDE2 dcopserver error
The first version of KDE2 1.91 I tried I didn't have a problem but ever since the one that came out on June 10th I can't get it to run. When I try to run dcopserver I get the follwoing error: BUG IN DYNAMIC LINKER ld.so: dl-version.c:210: _dl_check_map_versions: Assertion `needed != ((void *)0)' failed! I've tried installing an updated version of ld.so and any other thing that it seems like it might be connected too but still no luck. I'm finally at a loss on this one and was wondering if anyone else has encountered it or has an idea of how to fix it? Regards Dan http://www.bits-of-knowledge.com
RE: [expert] KDE2
Hmmm, I never had to do that with my install of Mandrake 7.0 -Original Message- From: Guillaume Rousse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2000 1:29 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] KDE2 This page just needs a slight correction for mandrake : you also have to remove (or at least to change suffix) of /etc/profile.d/kde2.sh script, coming with kdesupport, to prevent it from being automatically launched at begining, even while choosing kde1. Also sprach James Sparenberg : > > You can go here http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for instructions on > how to run both at the same time on your box. > James > > > At 01:31 PM 6/26/00, you wrote: > >Personally, I moved my ~/.kde folder to ~/.kdeold. Then I uninstalled > >KDE1 with rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -q -a | grep kde`. Then I installed > >openssl, alsa, and the qt-2.1.1 and kde2 rpms at > ><http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc>http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc. > >Then I made sure /opt/kde2/bin was permanently in my path by putting on > >the end in .bashrc, and created a ~/.Xclients file with startkde in > >it. That about does it. (Some KDE2 rpms may require rpm -ivh --force to > >force them to install) > > > >Now you have KDE2. > > > >I don't know how to run them both concurrently. > > > >Fox > > > >>- Original Message - > >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 8:58 AM > >>Subject: RE: [expert] KDE2 > >> > >> From the kde site, there is a link explaining how to run kde1 and kde2. > >> That file > >>works well. It has been stated that for those people running mandrake > >>there is a > >>kde1tokde2 rpm file. I never saw this file though. > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Christian Punchin > >>[<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:44 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: [expert] KDE2 > >> > >>A simple but important question... > >> > >>How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... > >> > >>The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... > >>Christian M. Punchin > >>Servicios para Empresas > >>Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales > >>Banco de Crédito del Perú > >>( 242-5900 x 6325 > >>/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.
Re: [expert] KDE2
This page just needs a slight correction for mandrake : you also have to remove (or at least to change suffix) of /etc/profile.d/kde2.sh script, coming with kdesupport, to prevent it from being automatically launched at begining, even while choosing kde1. Also sprach James Sparenberg : > > You can go here http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for instructions on > how to run both at the same time on your box. > James > > > At 01:31 PM 6/26/00, you wrote: > >Personally, I moved my ~/.kde folder to ~/.kdeold. Then I uninstalled > >KDE1 with rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -q -a | grep kde`. Then I installed > >openssl, alsa, and the qt-2.1.1 and kde2 rpms at > ><http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc>http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc. > >Then I made sure /opt/kde2/bin was permanently in my path by putting on > >the end in .bashrc, and created a ~/.Xclients file with startkde in > >it. That about does it. (Some KDE2 rpms may require rpm -ivh --force to > >force them to install) > > > >Now you have KDE2. > > > >I don't know how to run them both concurrently. > > > >Fox > > > >>- Original Message - > >>From: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS > >>To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' > >>Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 8:58 AM > >>Subject: RE: [expert] KDE2 > >> > >> From the kde site, there is a link explaining how to run kde1 and kde2. > >> That file > >>works well. It has been stated that for those people running mandrake > >>there is a > >>kde1tokde2 rpm file. I never saw this file though. > >> > >>-Original Message- > >>From: Christian Punchin > >>[<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > >>Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:44 PM > >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>Subject: [expert] KDE2 > >> > >>A simple but important question... > >> > >>How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... > >> > >>The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... > >>Christian M. Punchin > >>Servicios para Empresas > >>Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales > >>Banco de Crédito del Perú > >>( 242-5900 x 6325 > >>/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Content-Type: text/html; name="unnamed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Description: -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.
Re: [expert] kde2 requirements
the only requirements for using KDE applications, whether kde1 or kde2, is the correct QT version, and just support and libs packages. kdebase package is not needed. Also sprach John Aldrich : > On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, you wrote: > > Hi, > > On the Mandrake Air machine I`ve got no kde stuff installed and I wonder > > what would be needed if I would like to run some kde apps (Klyx!) but not > > necesserirly kde itself. I`ve got no kde 2 experience and I am not really > > sure what those kde 1/2 differances are. Correct me if I`m wrong: > > qt-1.44 > > kdesupport > > kdelibs > > kdebase > > > > should do the thing with kde 1. > > And what about kde 2? > > > You'll need QT2.x (should be available wherever you D/L the KDE2 > stuff) QT-copy and all the associated KDE stuff. AFAIK, the only > things you need BESIDES the KDE2 stuff (and I'll freely admit I'm not > positive on this) is QT and QT-copy. There may also be other libs > you'll need to update as well. > John -- Guillaume Rousse Iremia - Université de la Réunion Sleep doesn't exists. Just lack of cafeine.
Re: [expert] KDE2
You can go here http://www.kde.org/kde1-and-kde2.html for instructions on how to run both at the same time on your box. James At 01:31 PM 6/26/00, you wrote: Personally, I moved my ~/.kde folder to ~/.kdeold. Then I uninstalled KDE1 with rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -q -a | grep kde`. Then I installed openssl, alsa, and the qt-2.1.1 and kde2 rpms at http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc. Then I made sure /opt/kde2/bin was permanently in my path by putting on the end in .bashrc, and created a ~/.Xclients file with startkde in it. That about does it. (Some KDE2 rpms may require rpm -ivh --force to force them to install) Now you have KDE2. I don't know how to run them both concurrently. Fox - Original Message - From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [expert] KDE2 From the kde site, there is a link explaining how to run kde1 and kde2. That file works well. It has been stated that for those people running mandrake there is a kde1tokde2 rpm file. I never saw this file though. -Original Message- From: Christian Punchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [expert] KDE2 A simple but important question... How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... Christian M. Punchin Servicios para Empresas Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales Banco de Crédito del Perú ( 242-5900 x 6325 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] KDE2
Title: KDE2 Personally, I moved my ~/.kde folder to ~/.kdeold. Then I uninstalled KDE1 with rpm -e --nodeps `rpm -q -a | grep kde`. Then I installed openssl, alsa, and the qt-2.1.1 and kde2 rpms at http://us.mandrakesoft.com/~molnarc. Then I made sure /opt/kde2/bin was permanently in my path by putting on the end in .bashrc, and created a ~/.Xclients file with startkde in it. That about does it. (Some KDE2 rpms may require rpm -ivh --force to force them to install) Now you have KDE2. I don't know how to run them both concurrently. Fox - Original Message - From: Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Sent: Friday, June 23, 2000 8:58 AM Subject: RE: [expert] KDE2 From the kde site, there is a link explaining how to run kde1 and kde2. That file works well. It has been stated that for those people running mandrake there is a kde1tokde2 rpm file. I never saw this file though. -Original Message-From: Christian Punchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [expert] KDE2 A simple but important question... How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... Christian M. Punchin Servicios para Empresas Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales Banco de Crédito del Perú ( 242-5900 x 6325 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] kde2 requirements
On Mon, 26 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Hi, > On the Mandrake Air machine I`ve got no kde stuff installed and I wonder > what would be needed if I would like to run some kde apps (Klyx!) but not > necesserirly kde itself. I`ve got no kde 2 experience and I am not really > sure what those kde 1/2 differances are. Correct me if I`m wrong: > qt-1.44 > kdesupport > kdelibs > kdebase > > should do the thing with kde 1. > And what about kde 2? > You'll need QT2.x (should be available wherever you D/L the KDE2 stuff) QT-copy and all the associated KDE stuff. AFAIK, the only things you need BESIDES the KDE2 stuff (and I'll freely admit I'm not positive on this) is QT and QT-copy. There may also be other libs you'll need to update as well. John
RE: [expert] KDE2
Title: KDE2 From the kde site, there is a link explaining how to run kde1 and kde2. That file works well. It has been stated that for those people running mandrake there is a kde1tokde2 rpm file. I never saw this file though. -Original Message-From: Christian Punchin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2000 5:44 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [expert] KDE2 A simple but important question... How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... Christian M. Punchin Servicios para Empresas Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales Banco de Crédito del Perú ( 242-5900 x 6325 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] kde2 requirements
Hi, On the Mandrake Air machine I`ve got no kde stuff installed and I wonder what would be needed if I would like to run some kde apps (Klyx!) but not necesserirly kde itself. I`ve got no kde 2 experience and I am not really sure what those kde 1/2 differances are. Correct me if I`m wrong: qt-1.44 kdesupport kdelibs kdebase should do the thing with kde 1. And what about kde 2? I`m interested in a minimal system load. Any help highly appreciated. -- Michal Kurowski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] KDE2
Title: KDE2 A simple but important question... How can I install KDE2 on my MDK 7.1 box?... The readme files from kde.org are kinda outdated... Christian M. Punchin Servicios para Empresas Soluciones Electrónicas Empresariales Banco de Crédito del Perú ( 242-5900 x 6325 / [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] KDE2
According to rpmfind.net, it's supposed to be included in kdebase. On Tue, 20 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Hi! > I've tried to install KDE2Beta2 on Mandrake 7.0. The only dependency problem I > got is this: > libkonsole.so.1 is needed by kdebase-1.91-1 > But I was not man enough to find out what package I was missing. So I ignored > deps and installed all of the packages. But does anybody know what package it > is? The KDE and KDE2 konsole works fine.
[expert] KDE2
Hi! I've tried to install KDE2Beta2 on Mandrake 7.0. The only dependency problem I got is this: libkonsole.so.1 is needed by kdebase-1.91-1 But I was not man enough to find out what package I was missing. So I ignored deps and installed all of the packages. But does anybody know what package it is? The KDE and KDE2 konsole works fine. Problem 2 [espen@localhost ekt]$ kmail kmail: error in loading shared libraries: kmail: undefined symbol: _t24__default_alloc_template2b1i0.free_list [espen@localhost ekt]$ kword kword: error in loading shared libraries: kword: undefined symbol: _t24__default_alloc_template2b1i0.free_list [espen@localhost ekt]$ Launching the new kmail or kword gives the error message above? Has anyone on the list experienced the same? Is it just a bug one should expect in Beta or is it something I can do about it except downloading the newest version? Has it something to do with my dependency problem? Anyway I really look forward to when its finished, it's awesome already in beta. Especially Konqueror, its FAST! I'd really appreciate some help, though I'm not sure if this is the right list to put these questions on, perhaps I should sign up on a KDE2 mailing list? Espen
[expert] KDE2 1.91 and dcopserver
I downloaded the various RPM's for KDE2 1.91 (the only thing I couldn't find was libasound.so.1) but that isn't a biggie. My problem is dcopserver, as soon as I run it to run KDE2 I get this error: networkIdsList argument is NULL what configuration file did I miss editing? Do I require an entry in hosts.allow for my machine? Regards Dan http://www.bits-of-knowledge.com
[expert] KDE2 and Konqueror....views pse?
Civileme, I noticed you are testing KDE2 and Konqueror, can you compare it to KDE 1.1? Better? How much? Hard to install? KDE 1.1 still usable after install? Worth the effort? TIA -- Best Regards, Bruce > > > -- > BETA testing KDE2 and Konqueror
Re: [expert] kde2 rpms on contrib disk.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Sheldon Lee Wen wrote: > Hi, > >If I install the kde2 and qt2 rpm's on the contrib disk will it blow > my existing kde installation away or will they coexist? It'd be nice if > it > added it to the chooser for kdm and let me switch back and forth. Does > it do this? dunno how it works, but I rather tell you: those are pretty old (from last year! three months ago!). I wouldn't install them. Too much development has evolved since. I rather try to download RedHat RPMS from ftp://people.redhat.com/bero/RPMS/. I used to install them under mdk-6.1 and worked well. I hadn't tried under mdk-7, but I think they work. And if you like it, check this url each 15 days. they put new rpms here. good luck, and comment about result. I'm interested. -- "No tire sus colillas en el mingitorio, las humedece y las hace dificil de encender" "Do not dump butts in the wc. They dampen and it makes them difficult to light." --Tom Sharpe, "Wilt on high"
Re: [expert] kde2 rpms on contrib disk.
No, they will not upgrade from the previous version. further more trying to install kde2 while it is still in development is not for the faint of heart. If you do succeed and kde2 does load when you boot you will see that a lot of things still do not work... Dean Price --- Sheldon Lee Wen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi, > >If I install the kde2 and qt2 rpm's on the > contrib disk will it blow > my existing kde installation away or will they > coexist? It'd be nice if > it > added it to the chooser for kdm and let me switch > back and forth. Does > it do this? > > Sheldon. > -- > == > "Definitions involving chicken heads no longer > apply." > -Jon katz > == > __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
[expert] kde2 rpms on contrib disk.
Hi, If I install the kde2 and qt2 rpm's on the contrib disk will it blow my existing kde installation away or will they coexist? It'd be nice if it added it to the chooser for kdm and let me switch back and forth. Does it do this? Sheldon. -- == "Definitions involving chicken heads no longer apply." -Jon katz ==
