[FairfieldLife] Fairfield Friends, your Daily Inspiration - Tuesday - Truth is Absolute
Title: Template April 12, 2005 - Truth is Absolute Settle for nothing less than total 100% spiritual freedom. Vernon Howard A Treasury of Trueness Settle, compromise, and less than are concepts that do not exist in Truth. Carson's Commentary Was this message forwarded to you? The Daily Inspiration e-mail is free. To Subscribe - Click Here Blessing to you both, My best friend and colleague John Hilinski signed me up to receive the Daily Inspirationat work! I look for it with great expectation because it just starts my whole day off right! Thank you so much for spreading love to othersevery day! Sincerely, Karen J. Harris Stone Mountain, Georgia, United States Please feel free to forward The Daily Inspiration to a friend - and... don't forget to check out our new web site http://www.your-inner-peace.com Bert Christina Carson FuturePoint Communication 6868 Moores Mill Road Huntsville, Alabama 35811 USA 1-256-682-6511 e-mail: Bert [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christina [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from The Daily Inspiration Mailing List - click here To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Maharishi's chart redux (was Jyotish and Jesus)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, at_man_and_brahman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shuk's chart differs a bit from the one I created using proprietary software developed by a Purusha. This is perhaps due to a choice of an earlier time than 8:40, per below. For instance, I have Budh and Mangal conjunct in the 1st, rather than the 12th, and Shani/ Surya starting November 3rd, rather than in September. Lg 26 Makr 47'37'' Dha MaGuBu Sy 28 Dhan 39'54'' UAs SyMaGu Ch 9 Simh 50'15'' Mag KeSaBu Ma 9 Makr 19'47'' UAs SySkSa Bu 12 Makr 38'03'' Sra ChRaSa Gu 3 Mesh 32'59'' Asw KeSyKe Sk 3 Dhan 9'50'' Mul KeSyRa Sa 4 Kark 55'27'' Psh SaSaRa Ra 27 Dhan 9'27'' UAs SySyBu Ke 27 Mith 9'27'' Pnr GuSkCh Tithi: Krishna 4 *** And I got different results using: http://www.jyotishtools.com/OnlineH.htm Anybody out there with Parashara's Light willing to share results? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Brigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a very fortunate chart with the Venus, Saturn and Jupiter near to the same degree as the ascendant in their respective houses, esp if the birth is just a bit earlier, which is often the case, and these three are also the moolatrikona rulers of good houses. Also Moon, Jupiter and Venus all get strong aspects from functional benefics. On the negative side: Mercury and Mars are significantly conjunct in the 12th with Mercury as moolatrikona ruler of the 8th; and rahu conjunct Sun. Not that strongly positive at first glance for Enlightenment unless due to the aspect of Saturn as 12th ruler from 6th onto the same degree as ascendant in its own house . No analysis here provided of Nakshatra nor divisional charts. According to Vimshottari dasha he goes into Saturn-Sun from Saturn-Venus in September, which is not an improvement. If you used Jyotish software, could you please apprise us of which software, and maybe post a non-HTML complete listing of grahas by degree in houses if you are so inclined (for those who don't get this list by email and can't download attachments and therefore need a plain text chart). Thanks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hmm....aSTaanga, part ¨5: pratyaahaara
The eight (aSTau) parts (an.gaani) of paatañjala-yoga are enumerated in YS II 29: yama-niyamaasana-praaNaayaama-pratyaahaara- dhaaraNaa-dhyaana-samaadhayo 'STaavan.gaani The same without sandhi: yama; niyama; aasana; praaNaayaama; pratyaahaara; dhaaraNaa; dhyaana; samaadhayaH; aSTau; an.gaani II 54: sva-viSayaasaMprayoge cittasvaruupaanukaara ivendriyaaNaaM pratyaahaaraH Without sandhi: sva; viSaya; asamprayoge; citta; svaruupa; anukaara; iva; indriyaaNaam; pratyaahaaraH Cappeller's: sva visaya samprayoga ([a = not, etc.]sam-pra-yoga) (asamprayoge: locative singular) citta svarupa (sva-ruupa) anukara (anu-kaara) iva indriya (indriyaaNaam: genitive [possessive] plural) pratyahara (prati-aa-haara) http://www.uni-koeln.de/phil-fak/indologie/tamil/cap_search.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Let me get this right: MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it. Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture? What's the obvious conclusion here? On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Let me get this right: MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it. Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture? What's the obvious conclusion here? The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I didn't have the experiences I've had around him and through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud. Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer from rather mundane maladies. I think this perfect health thing is incorrect. -Peter On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish and Jesus
--- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a very fortunate chart with the Venus, Saturn and Jupiter near to the same degree as the ascendant in their respective houses, esp if the birth is just a bit earlier, which is often the case, and these three are also the moolatrikona rulers of good houses. Also Moon, Jupiter and Venus all get strong aspects from functional benefics. On the negative side: Mercury and Mars are significantly conjunct in the 12th with Mercury as moolatrikona ruler of the 8th; and rahu conjunct Sun. Not that strongly positive at first glance for Enlightenment unless due to the aspect of Saturn as 12th ruler from 6th onto the same degree as ascendant in its own house . No analysis here provided of Nakshatra nor divisional charts. According to Vimshottari dasha he goes into Saturn-Sun from Saturn-Venus in September, which is not an improvement. What about me what about me what about me? I have Mercury and mars in the first house, Virgo rising sign, Saturn and Jupiter in the fifth. Rahu in the 7th?, and moon in the ninth (exalted I think), and venus in the 11th (maybe exalted too, or has some relationship with Moon). Sun and ketu in 12th house. I just went into Shani mahadasa recently, from guru. Its all a big mess, but quite a ride ! Checked my big jyotish book for this one.let's seesays you be King of France! Congratulations, King! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I didn't have the experiences I've had around him and through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud. Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer from rather mundane maladies. I think this perfect health thing is incorrect. Well that's a possible conclusion. no doubt. They could also come from lineage, your own tapas/practice, intense longing for liberation, etc. One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion. I also realize that someone with a few siddhis or someone with good lineage can help one gain experiences. Best, -V. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Jyotish and Jesus
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shukra69 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is a very fortunate chart with the Venus, Saturn and Jupiter near to the same degree as the ascendant in their respective houses, esp if the birth is just a bit earlier, which is often the case, and these three are also the moolatrikona rulers of good houses. Also Moon, Jupiter and Venus all get strong aspects from functional benefics. On the negative side: Mercury and Mars are significantly conjunct in the 12th with Mercury as moolatrikona ruler of the 8th; and rahu conjunct Sun. Not that strongly positive at first glance for Enlightenment unless due to the aspect of Saturn as 12th ruler from 6th onto the same degree as ascendant in its own house . No analysis here provided of Nakshatra nor divisional charts. According to Vimshottari dasha he goes into Saturn-Sun from Saturn-Venus in September, which is not an improvement. What about me what about me what about me? I have Mercury and mars in the first house, Virgo rising sign, Saturn and Jupiter in the fifth. Rahu in the 7th?, and moon in the ninth (exalted I think), and venus in the 11th (maybe exalted too, or has some relationship with Moon). Sun and ketu in 12th house. I just went into Shani mahadasa recently, from guru. Its all a big mess, but quite a ride ! Checked my big jyotish book for this one.let's seesays you be King of France! Congratulations, King! Swingin' King Loui. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very realiztic. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra Let me get this right:MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it.Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture?What's the obvious conclusion here?On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to:
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion.. Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible? George W. Bush, of course. -Vaj Limbaugh ahem Actually those would just be *provisional* compassion. -Vaj To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
1. How one who is U.C can not be realistic? 2. On what basis one who has fragmented reality decide if something is realistic? 3. Where is my darn coffee? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very realiztic. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra Let me get this right: MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it. Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture? What's the obvious conclusion here? On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 2005, at 7:44 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I didn't have the experiences I've had around him and through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud. Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer from rather mundane maladies. I think this perfect health thing is incorrect. Well that's a possible conclusion. no doubt. They could also come from lineage, your own tapas/practice, intense longing for liberation, etc. One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion. I also realize that someone with a few siddhis or someone with good lineage can help one gain experiences. Best, -V. This is the endless argument regarding MMY. What can you say. I understand your perspective perfectly. Who knows. I also enjoy my enlightened masters to have a dash of compassion too! -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
nah, they were just realistics. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion.. Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I didn't have the experiences I've had around him and through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud. Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer from rather mundane maladies. I think this perfect health thing is incorrect. Or misunderstood. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY chart (GJ)
HOW CAN I GET AJYOTISHA LIKE THIS FOR FREE? NAMASTE ALLVaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wealthy, but your wealth is taken away by the government. You may suffer from an infirmity of a limb; selfish; ailing; spouse may be unfaithful.Saturn is aspected by Mars, and Saturn is in Cancer.A variation of "Daridra" Yoga is present in your chart. At times you will experience some poverty or financial difficulties. This is a common and general combination that many people have, and it accounts for the general type of troubles that come and go in most of our lives.The lord of the 5 conjoins the lord of the 6 or the lord of the 5 conjoins the lord of the 12 or the lord of the 5 conjoins the lord of the 8, and is not the lord of the 5 is aspected by a benefic, and is not the lord of the 5 conjoins a benefic.A well aspected fourth house or a favourably placed fourth lord can indicate living in nice houses, owning nice cars and having a fortunate mother or having a good relationship with her. It is a beneficial indication for overall happiness in life.The lord of the 4 is aspected by Jupiter or the lord of the 4 conjoins Jupiter or 4 is aspected by Jupiter or Jupiter is in 4.At times, especially those ruled by the 4th lord, your feelings will be hurt, and you will express this in various ways both in actions and verbally.4 is aspected by a malefic planet or a malefic planet is in 4.In this combination, the third house, the lord of the third or Mars, the Karaka of the third are somewhat strong, which tends to bless life matters connected to that house, like younger siblings, communication abilities, higher education, courage, energy and prowess.Mars is considered Strong in Shad Bala or the lord of the 3 is considered Strong in Shad Bala, and Mars is aspected by a benefic or the lord of the 3 is aspected by a benefic or 3 is aspected by a benefic.In your chart, Mars is aspecting the Moon, which is a weak version of "Chandra Mangal" Yoga, where Mars and the Moon occupie the same constellation. This combination will definetely give your mind a passionate streak. You tend to be fiery and energized and sometimes impatient and quicktempered. How exactly this will effect your life depends on different other factors in the chart, like what other aspects the two involved planets receive, what houses they occupie, and whether Mars is a benefic or a malefic for the rising sign.Moon is aspected by Mars.Influences longevity.Moon is in 8, and Moon is considered Weak in Shad Bala.Loves loneliness.Mercury is in 1, and Mercury is in Taurus Mercury is in Virgo or Mercury is in Capricorn.Magnificent personality. You are intelligent and generous and honest. Good position to become an author or writer. Earns respect, love and affection from others. But always in debt.Jupiter is under star 1-Ashwini, and Jupiter is in star quarter # 2.Miserliness is increased with the Sun in this sign, which produces great physical strain. All joy is absent from your life. In this emotional desert, there is hardly anyone with whom you can share your difficulties and ordeals; you often get into trouble with the government. Towards the end of your life, you become sad and disillusioned.Sagittarius is in 12, and the Sun is in 12.Moon in Leo brings idealism in love, and you will desire affection from all directions. Moon in Leo: You will be fond of the opposite sex and enjoyment, calm, magnanimous, persevering, loyal to father and Guru, good organizer, well-dressed, given to music art and sports, popular and respected. Some of the natural feminine qualities both you because of how opposite they are to your mental nature. You may not eat well, have stomach disorders, tooth decay, eat meat, harsh, like to copulate in the forests and hills, yet be charitable, respectful to mother, valorous, dutiful and looking majestic.Moon is in Leo.More than one marriage and a large family.Venus is under star 19-Mula, and Venus is aspected by Jupiter.Rahu leads to spiritual life, but while under the influence of Rahu you can easily become disheartened and depressed.Sagittarius is in 12, and Rahu is in 12.Some physical disability and a wandering disposition.Mars is under star 21-Uttarashadha, and Mars is aspected by Saturn.Spiritual proclivities are always possible under this influence. It may bring poverty, make you work for others and incur financial problems, but it will also bring you into contact with thoughtful and influential people who help you in extraordinary ways. Intellectually you possess a deep insight into human character and motivation. Leaning toward physical weakness, you are often unable to establish a successful sexual rapport with your spouse.Capricorn is in 1, and Mercury is in 1.Suspicious and discontented.Mercury is in 1, and Mercury is in Capricorn.The Ascendant lord, Venus or Jupiter are located in a Kendra, which will bless your overall live to some degree. To have at least one good angular placement is of advantage for material life in general. If
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very realiztic. Is this thought true? Do we know for certain that this thought is true? How do we feel when we think this thought? (Not saying we *should* drop it, but) How would we feel without this thought? (Again, not saying we *should* drop it, but) Can we see any reason to drop this thought? Is the turnaround truer or as true? The obvious conclusion is that *I* am a dreamer, but not very realistic. If desired we may apply this process as well to the statement previously made about George W. Bush (something along the lines of he acts dumber than he is), or anything else one perceives to be others or out there causing any degree whatsoever of discomfort or suffering. All glory to Guru Katie. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY chart (GJ)
You'd have to buy the program or mail me back-channel and I'll gladly send it to you. Please make sure your birth info is correct before emailing it! -V. On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:15 AM, HENRY ALZAMORA wrote: HOW CAN I GET AJYOTISHA LIKE THIS FOR FREE? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion. A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is overwhelming compassion. snip --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin. This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being anywhere remains unenlightened. This is not really a noble aspiration; it is rather the Self-evident, obvious dilemma of unity. Since we contain everyOne as a mirror of ourSelf, we are only as enlightened as what we perceive around us. Only by expanding ourselves to recognize Unenlightenment, darkness, lack of compassion, confusion, hatred, ignorance, and so on, to be actually not *out there* but merely petty dramas *in here* -- only Now can we finally see through them, realize the completely illusory nature of self vs. other in maya, and eliminate all suffering for all time. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with...
This is the endless argument regarding MMY. What can you say. I understand your perspective perfectly. Who knows. I also enjoy my enlightened masters to have a dash of compassion too! -Peter If weÕre inventorying opinion... I remain captivated by his dialogues; some of the most cogently abstract and sublimely insightful available in the western world. Having been raised with creativeÕs in and around the theater, a disjointed personal life seems rather consistent in the daily habits of unusual people. I watched for years as brilliant minds collapsed once off stage, strangely and profoundly reconstituting once back in character. Just an observation, hearing in advance footsteps of hobgoblins in search of consistency. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
1. How one who is U.C can not be realistic? Because of personality, a dreamer and unrealistic personality will not become realistic and sensible through consciousness and physiological functioning. They will be very 'normal' but we all know what that means now. Basically nothing. But basically a sense of good humor and health. As said, a demon who is in unity will be a very effective demon. One might say, but isn't someone in unity really deserving of unity through good deeds and so on. I say no, that a person in unity is merely someone who made the connection, and nothing more. Being in unity doesn't make soup out of soap. Moreover, liberation is causeless or it will have a beginning and end. One is already liberated, but merely caught in the sheet and too lazy to struggle to get out of bed. Liberation takes one by force or it doesn't. A big problem in enlightenment is not acting from the POV of the Absolute with it's opulent nature of wisdom and compassion, but again falling into the energetic realm of thought and karma which is the realm of the Devas. the Devas fight wars constantly so to act on behalf of a Deva is to throw away the human condition with it's divinity which transcends all. Too many yajnas make one crazy. Too much association with Devas makes one very dualistic. One needs always to remember the source course and goal as being of the one flavor of the Absolute, and not get caught up. MMY got caught up. It's obvious, as obvious as spoiled agar. Undoing the effects of karmic overreaching is the act of the wise, not rebuilding the entire world. 2. On what basis one who has fragmented reality decide if something is "realistic"? On the basis of sheer fact of existance as already being unity regardless of anything. You're in unity whether you like it or not, or realize it or not. And upon realization, one still has to put out the garbage on thursday because it will stink by friday. One who is in unity realizes that all are in unity and that as there is one unity so also everyone is important, as important as one's own mother. 3. Where is my darn coffee? Make it and wake up! 4. How can gurus act like total dipshits. Lack of wisdom and integrity, or knowledge. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very realiztic. - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra Let me get this right: MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary artery disease, status post myocardial infarction, and a very paranoid megalomaniac after world power who steals money from the dying and dead? Oh yeah he also uses western medicine while telling others to avoid it. Now, please correct me if I am wrong here, I thought enlightened physiology meant perfect health? Isn't CAD a stress related disease? Repeated studies independent of the TMO has shown that a radical vegetarian diet and meditation, properly done, reverses CAD. What's wrong with this picture? What's the obvious conclusion here? On Apr 11, 2005, at 11:36 PM, anonymousff wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote: A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin. Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Rory Goff wrote: This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being anywhere remains unenlightened. Well, many are fully enlightened--however they decide, consciously, to return again and again till samsara is exhausted. In some cases enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to assist. Universal janitors. It's hard work, but somebody has got to do it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote: A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound. Yep! :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY chart (GJ)
Ah, just sign up at www.astroastro.com - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 8:25 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] MMY chart (GJ) You'd have to buy the program or mail me back-channel and I'll gladly send it to you.Please make sure your birth info is correct before emailing it!-V.On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:15 AM, HENRY ALZAMORA wrote: HOW CAN I GET AJYOTISHA LIKE THIS FOR FREE?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Rory Goff wrote: This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being anywhere remains unenlightened. Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, many are fully enlightened--however they decide, consciously, to return again and again till samsara is exhausted. WHOSE Samsara? In some cases enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to assist. Universal janitors. There is only one being, only one incarnation, only one janitor. It's hard work, but somebody has got to do it. Nobody does it. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Having been raised with creativeÕs in and around the theater, a disjointed personal life seems rather consistent in the daily habits of unusual people. I watched for years as brilliant minds collapsed once off stage, strangely and profoundly reconstituting once back in character. Just an observation, hearing in advance footsteps of hobgoblins in search of consistency. ---yeah, the cycle of fullness to emptiness, the wheel of samsara, solve et coagula. Life is cycles, and artists realize their epiphany through art, and feel hollow when not creating. To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Rory Goff wrote: WHOSE Samsara? Sentient Beings of the dimensions of conditioned existence. In some cases enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to assist. Universal janitors. There is only one being, only one incarnation, only one janitor. It's hard work, but somebody has got to do it. Nobody does it. Precisely. It's really about integrating the compassionate nature of the Primordial State. Because the Primordial State is compassionate it continually manifests conditional reality for your surfing enjoyment. Enjoy the show. Coming NOW to a theatre near You. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of yourSelf to the dustbin.Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound.Moreover, the nature of the Absolute itself is compassion and wisdom. To not have these is to not be awakened. You say, hah! you contradicted yourself! Hahaha, Kirk you suck! You contradicted youself where you said before that even demons could be in unity. But Hahahaha, I say right back, a demon will act from it's level of wisdom and compassion, by killing, enslaving, and expanding your maya, because demons aren't given to great thought, great compassion or great wisdom. Enlightened demons are the worst. Don't get involved with enlightened demons. Jeez, you want a harsh taskmaster? A stupid awakened one still can't write, read, or do math, but they're still awakened. If it wasn't the case then from the start of time people would have had to go first through all of schooling to make sure they were on the level first. But such is obviously not the case. I saw a very awakened slug once eating my San pedro cactus. It was grooving on life. I could see it glow. Awakened but of no great use to me personally. I was very able to cook all sorts of things many times but was pigeonholed into some station or another. Awakening didn't change that. I still had to work say, fry station, or saute, instead of production, or being the chef. Not every awakened person gets the crown, not every awakened person gets acknowlegement, not every awakened person wants the crown or acknoledgement. Yeah, watch your karma. Awakening doesn't change karma, except insofar as it brings wisdom and compassion. So instead of driving 60 in a school zone when in the heady bliss of freedom, and then hitting a school kid, and going to prison where one will be awakened in prison, instead one slows down, because they may hit someone. Foresight, insight, wisdom, compassion, the true path makes use of these and doesn't put it all on autopilot where whatever one does is right. because karmically speaking, it's not! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
WHOSE Suffering? WHO is suffering?:-)---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from thing to thing always wanting more. When I'm hungry I feel weak. When I run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like now. No suffering? Good for you. The suffering I feel is the source of my desire for liberation. And always was. The fact of constant change makes all relative solutions invalid. Sure, I absolutely don't suffer, as when I stepped out of time when my father died. But karmically speaking, I have been caught up in suffering since I entered the womb and every day and moment since then. Except when I was fucked up or in samadhi. But my guess is also that if you were you wouldn't be asking vapid questions. If we understand that we are the Absolute then can we understand that someone must cook and someone must wash dishes. Otherwise, no cooking, no eating, much suffering. Heaven on Earth is right now, as I have always maintained, but being relative heaven must also change and so is not a solution to misery. Nonetheless, heaven must be served, how do you take yours? I would be glad to hook it up if I could. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Nobody does it.:-)--then who writes these notes?To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Rory Goff wrote: WHOSE Samsara? Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sentient Beings of the dimensions of conditioned existence. Wrong! Yours and Yours only. One sentient Being only! :-) snip Nobody does it. Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Precisely. It's really about integrating the compassionate nature of the Primordial State. Because the Primordial State is compassionate it continually manifests conditional reality for your surfing enjoyment. My surfing enjoyment? Who am I? Enjoy the show. Coming NOW to a theatre near You. Near Me? Who am I? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Moreover, the nature of the Absolute itself is compassion and wisdom. Whoa. What Absolute? Anyone who says the Nature of the Absolute is... and then goes on to fill in the blanks is a bald-faced liar. Isn't he? :-) rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To not have these is to not be awakened. snip How can one have/not have these? Who is awakened or not awakened? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
In a message dated 4/12/05 6:47:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What's the obvious conclusion here?The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If Ididn't have the experiences I've had around him andthrough his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud.Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer fromrather mundane maladies. I think this perfect healththing is incorrect.-Peter Peter I do believe M has stated many years ago that one needs to have perfect health to gain BC but once it has stabilized you can more or less let your body go to hell. In M's case he may have been diabetic in his youth but kept it under control through proper diet. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Rory Goff wrote: Near Me? Who am I? Keep asking. You'll get it. AHAM or AHAR. You decide. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Rory wrote: WHOSE Suffering? WHO is suffering? :-) rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from thing to thing always wanting more. Rory: Bingo! Only I is suffering; the rest is a mirror. But actually, no I don't. That is Self (or non-self if you prefer) believing it is the dream, believing it is self, the ego, some thought/feeling or other; that which changes. When we impose some condition on what IS, we suffer. RudraJoe: When I'm hungry I feel weak. Rory: Yes, when the body is hungry it feels weak. So? RudraJoe: When I run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like now. Rory: Yes, the mind feels like exploding. So? RudraJoe: No suffering? Good for you. The suffering I feel is the source of my desire for liberation. Rory: How the hell can you desire what you already ARE? Fool! :-) RudraJoe: And always was. The fact of constant change makes all relative solutions invalid. Rory: Bingo. So? Why keep on identifying with them then? Obviously attempting to identify with impermanence causes suffering. Nature's way of telling us we are thinking something incorrect, something which IS not. RudraJoe: Sure, I absolutely don't suffer, as when I stepped out of time when my father died. But karmically speaking, I have been caught up in suffering since I entered the womb and every day and moment since then. Rory: Yes, constantly identifying with the movie of one's own projecting. Suffering. RudraJoe: Except when I was fucked up or in samadhi. But my guess is also that if you were you wouldn't be asking vapid questions. Rory: I am here because I have absolutely nothing better to do than to better Understand You, and so to better Understand mySelf. RudraJoe: If we understand that we are the Absolute then can we understand that someone must cook and someone must wash dishes. Otherwise, no cooking, no eating, much suffering. Rory: Still drawing a distinction between Absolute and Relative. Both just concepts. What IS, is neither Absolute nor Relative -- isn't it? RudraJoe: Heaven on Earth is right now, as I have always maintained, but being relative heaven must also change and so is not a solution to misery. Rory: Can't pin our oughts and shoulds on anything; that way lies madness. Relative is just a concept. Inside and outside, self and other are just concepts. Believing in concepts implies suffering. RudraJoe: Nonetheless, heaven must be served, how do you take yours? I would be glad to hook it up if I could. Rory: Love you, Kirk! Thanks for trying so hard. I do appreciate it. We already are what we're striving for; we just forget sometimes. Your Buddha-buddy :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nobody does it. :-) --then who writes these notes? You? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Whoa. What Absolute? Anyone who says the Nature of the Absolute is... and then goes on to fill in the blanks is a bald-faced liar. Isn't he? :-) No No? Yes? Any difference between the two? How can we condition the Absolute? Doesn't that make it Relative? Aren't both of these already just concepts, themselves conditioned? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Rory Goff wrote: What You? You = Rory In what way are You and I different? Keeping asking the previous question. Rory will get it (or That). Eventually. AHAM or AHAR? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Rory Goff wrote: What You? You = Rory In what way are You and I different? Keeping asking the previous question. Rory will get it (or That). Eventually. AHAM or AHAR? What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know the answer to these. Do you? There is only Vaj. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? Brahman. What is Rory? What is That? Brahman. What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? Different obscurations. I already know the answer to these. But Rory keeps asking. Do you? You who? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from thing to thing always wanting more. Rory:Bingo! Only "I" is suffering; the rest is a mirror. But actually, no "I" don't. That is Self (or non-self if you prefer) believing it is the dream, believing it is self, the ego, some thought/feeling or other; that which changes. When we impose some condition on what IS, we suffer. ---YeahRudraJoe:When I'm hungry I feel weak. Rory:Yes, when the body is hungry it feels weak. So? Yeah, So share people share. RudraJoe:When I run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like now. Rory:Yes, the mind feels like exploding. So? So share people share.RudraJoe:No suffering? Good for you. The suffering I feel is the source of my desire for liberation. Rory:How the hell can you desire what you already ARE? Fool! :-) Yeah, that which is hungry desires food. That which is suffering desires freedom from suffering. Life is desire, no desire is no life. Nirvana. That which feels nothing goes on.RudraJoe:And always was. The fact of constant change makes all relative solutions invalid. Rory:Bingo. So? Why keep on identifying with them then? Obviously attempting to identify with impermanence causes suffering. Nature's way of telling us we are thinking something incorrect, something which IS not. Nature delights in diversity, and impermanence. The only thing nature is telling me is to score.RudraJoe:Sure, I absolutely don't suffer, as when I stepped out of time when my father died. But karmically speaking, I have been caught up in suffering since I entered the womb and every day and moment since then. Rory:Yes, constantly identifying with the movie of one's own projecting. Suffering. RudraJoe:Except when I was fucked up or in samadhi. But my guess is also that if you were you wouldn't be asking vapid questions. Rory:I am here because I have absolutely nothing better to do than to better Understand You, and so to better Understand mySelf. But you're not helping me so much as words don't bring home the bacon. Except sometimes.RudraJoe:If we understand that we are the Absolute then can we understand that someone must cook and someone must wash dishes. Otherwise, no cooking, no eating, much suffering. Rory:Still drawing a distinction between Absolute and Relative. Both just concepts. What IS, is neither Absolute nor Relative -- isn't it? Yeah, some good points.RudraJoe:Heaven on Earth is right now, as I have always maintained, but being relative heaven must also change and so is not a solution to misery. Rory:Can't pin our "oughts" and shoulds" on anything; that way lies madness. Relative is just a concept. Inside and outside, self and other are just concepts. Believing in concepts implies suffering. Believing in concepts implies a mind not in touch with the Ground of Being.RudraJoe:Nonetheless, heaven must be served, how do you take yours? I would be glad to hook it up if I could.Rory:Love you, Kirk! Thanks for trying so hard. I do appreciate it. We already are what we're striving for; we just forget sometimes. I remember, but I have soo much energy that I'm going berserk with it. Thanks for being so vast.Your Buddha-buddy :-) Likewise.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
No? Yes? Any difference between the two? How can we condition the Absolute? Doesn't that make it Relative? Aren't both of these already just concepts, themselves conditioned?No more than a hole to fall into. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote: In what way is Rory different than Vaj? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different obscurations. No obscurations! Only Vaj! All is Vaj! I already know the answer to these. But Rory keeps asking. Only Vaj is asking! Only Vaj is answering! Do you? You who? Yoo-hoo! A festival of owls in an empty barn :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote: No obscurations! Only Vaj! All is Vaj! I already know the answer to these. But Rory keeps asking. Only Vaj is asking! Only Vaj is answering! Do you? You who? Yoo-hoo! A festival of owls in an empty barn :-) Yeah. Already knew That. makes mudra of flipping booger from finger To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember, but I have soo much energy that I'm going berserk with it. Thanks for being so vast. I do not have soo much energy; I am not going berserk; soo much energy IS; berserkness IS. I am not vast, but you are more than welcome. Much Love, I/not-I To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah. Already knew That. makes mudra of flipping booger from finger *lol* Yeah, I am pretty smart, aren't I :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Guts
Just curious what people think about maharishi's programmes and whether they resound positively on the gut level. BTW, I got a response from the Raaj of the Central and when I saw the price tag, I'm afraid I said, "20,000 bucks are you fucking crazy? Get Lost!" Afraid I scared the Raaj. Us humans, we just can't get with them Asuras. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with...
--- mrfishey2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is the endless argument regarding MMY. What can you say. I understand your perspective perfectly. Who knows. I also enjoy my enlightened masters to have a dash of compassion too! -Peter If weÕre inventorying opinion... I remain captivated by his dialogues; some of the most cogently abstract and sublimely insightful available in the western world. Agreed. MMY's intellect is amazing. Having been raised with creativeÕs in and around the theater, a disjointed personal life seems rather consistent in the daily habits of unusual people. I watched for years as brilliant minds collapsed once off stage, strangely and profoundly reconstituting once back in character. Just an observation, hearing in advance footsteps of hobgoblins in search of consistency. One effect MMY's behavior has on me is that it forces me to drop all stories or concepts, both good and bad about him. I've had too many amazing experiences around him to dismiss him as a fraud and I certainly can't deny the ridiculous behavior he has exhibited at times over the last several decades. So what is the conclusion? Nothing. Why do we have to have any stories/concepts at all about him? Also most of these stories have absolutely nothing to do with my direct experience. So for me they have no impact outside of churning-up attachments that the mind insists on having regarding my ideal of a perfect spiritual being. By hook or by crook Brahman eats you. -Peter To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
From James Braha: Below is the Intro to my new book (5 pages), which is close to being finished. ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality Introduction What you are about to read is the final chapter in my search for liberation. What I mean by liberation is an end to the nagging feeling of separateness from Source (or Essence) that was present since as long as I can remember. And the death of the never ending sense of becoming, as well as the relentless concerns over past and future - death included. After engaging in many spiritual paths for some thirty years, the end finally came through the Hindu teachings of Advaita, also known as non duality. The literal definition of Advaita (classically pronounced ad-veye-ta, sometimes pronounced ad-vey-ta) is not two, a preferable way of describing oneness because oneness implies the possibility of more than one. The term oneness refers to the underlying or essential oneness of all manifestation. Scientifically this oneness can be seen within the fact that all matter can be broken down into sub atomic particles, which is then seen as nothing more than light or emptiness or space. Everything in manifestation is, thus, made up of one, and only one, essence. Within our experience of life, which is tremendously varied and full of differences, there is an integral facet that is almost entirely ignored. And that is the sameness or oneness that is constantly present and makes all experience possible. It is called Presence Awareness and is essentially the present moment - right here right now. It is the right here right now that has always been and will always be. It is the right here right now that you experienced at age five and is with you even as you read this page. It was present at birth, it is present at death. Presence Awareness. Right here right now. Our one constant. In early 2004, I had the great good fortune to pick up a book called What's Wrong With Right Now Unless You Think About it? by an Australian teacher named Sailor Bob Adamson. Bob's search ended in the mid 1970's when he studied with the great Hindu sage Nisargadatta Maharaj. He has been teaching non duality ever since. As fate would have it, Bob and his wife came to America and stayed at our home for five weeks. During that time, he gave many wonderful talks and teachings, most of which are transcribed in this book. For most seekers of enlightenment or liberation, the search is long and arduous with many twists and turns along the way. Finding truth is all the more challenging because there are so many varying viewpoints. People are different genetically, culturally, emotionally, and so on. There are paths for devotional types, intellectual types, mystical types, and so forth. What most paths and religions have in common is that they allow the disciple to seek without ever actually finding. This does not mean such paths are fruitless. It simply means that there is always more to chase and more to seek. There is always a bigger and better experience to be had. There is always a promise of a better future (even though life can only be lived in the present). And there is almost never a point where one stops to say Aha. The goal is reached. I have found. I am complete. There is, of course, the rare case where that occurs, but it is sure to be the exception - not the rule. The few who claim to have found are nearly always the leaders, never the participants. This fact alone should give one pause. In this regard, the teachings of non duality are incredibly unique. They are unique because they leave room only for finding and none for seeking! In Advaita, seeking is patently absurd because it implies a future time of finding. If all that exists is oneness, how can there be a past or future? Past and future are concepts in the mind, while the present moment - right here right now - is all that truly is. If there is an opposite to Advaita, it is the act of seeking! Advaita is based on understanding reality and existence from the broadest possible viewpoint. It is entirely unconcerned with practices, disciplines, rituals, and experiences. Seekers looking for greater self development or for promises of a better future will not find them here. Non duality rejects preferences, and considers no experience, positive or negative, one iota better or worse than another. For seekers who are ripe, non duality brings ending upon ending, until only freedom remains. Once it is recognized that the reference point we live from, the me, is based on nothing more than a collection of thoughts and images, any sense of self importance and individuality ends. Once the definition of reality is seen to be that which never changes, the illusory nature of our apparent creation is exposed. As soon as the essential oneness of existence is understood, the pervasive sense of separation gained in early childhood - when a so called individual identity was created - disappears. Once it is realized that the present moment, right here
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with...
By hook or by crook Brahman eats you. -Peter -This is a favorite topic of mine. To wit, if liberation is forever then it cannot have a changing cause. So Brahman must eat you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote: Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible? George W. Bush, of course. -Vaj Limbaugh ahem Actually those would just be *provisional* compassion. -Vaj Mo like the debil himshelf. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with...
RJ, you should write a book called, Sayings of the Cook or Thus Speaketh the Cook or Wisdom of the Cook What do ya think? -Peter --- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By hook or by crook Brahman eats you. -Peter -This is a favorite topic of mine. To wit, if liberation is forever then it cannot have a changing cause. So Brahman must eat you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site! http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just curious what people think about maharishi's programmes and whether they resound positively on the gut level. BTW, I got a response from the Raaj of the Central and when I saw the price tag, I'm afraid I said, 20,000 bucks are you fucking crazy? Get Lost! Afraid I scared the Raaj. *rofl* Us humans, we just can't get with them Asuras. Us? Them? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with...
The reason anyone here understands anything I say is because you are all familiar with the terminology. My eloquence couldn't be replicated for the masses. But thanks :) - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with... RJ, you should write a book called, "Sayings of theCook" or "Thus Speaketh the Cook" or "Wisdom of theCook" What do ya think?-Peter--- rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By hook or by crook Brahman eats you. -Peter -This is a favorite topic of mine. To wit, if liberation is forever then it cannot have a changing cause. So Brahman must eat you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business - Try our new resources site!http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/resources/To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Guts
Us humans, we just can't get with them Asuras."Us"? "Them"?Ok, asuras, ain't getting the vote.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Guts
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Us humans, we just can't get with them Asuras. Us? Them? Ok, asuras, ain't getting the vote. Well it makes for a dramatic movie, anyhow. Full of suffering and chit. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
Smokin' --- Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From James Braha: Below is the Intro to my new book (5 pages), which is close to being finished. ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality Introduction What you are about to read is the final chapter in my search for liberation. What I mean by liberation is an end to the nagging feeling of separateness from Source (or Essence) that was present since as long as I can remember. And the death of the never ending sense of becoming, as well as the relentless concerns over past and future - death included. After engaging in many spiritual paths for some thirty years, the end finally came through the Hindu teachings of Advaita, also known as non duality. The literal definition of Advaita (classically pronounced ad-veye-ta, sometimes pronounced ad-vey-ta) is not two, a preferable way of describing oneness because oneness implies the possibility of more than one. The term oneness refers to the underlying or essential oneness of all manifestation. Scientifically this oneness can be seen within the fact that all matter can be broken down into sub atomic particles, which is then seen as nothing more than light or emptiness or space. Everything in manifestation is, thus, made up of one, and only one, essence. Within our experience of life, which is tremendously varied and full of differences, there is an integral facet that is almost entirely ignored. And that is the sameness or oneness that is constantly present and makes all experience possible. It is called Presence Awareness and is essentially the present moment - right here right now. It is the right here right now that has always been and will always be. It is the right here right now that you experienced at age five and is with you even as you read this page. It was present at birth, it is present at death. Presence Awareness. Right here right now. Our one constant. In early 2004, I had the great good fortune to pick up a book called What's Wrong With Right Now Unless You Think About it? by an Australian teacher named Sailor Bob Adamson. Bob's search ended in the mid 1970's when he studied with the great Hindu sage Nisargadatta Maharaj. He has been teaching non duality ever since. As fate would have it, Bob and his wife came to America and stayed at our home for five weeks. During that time, he gave many wonderful talks and teachings, most of which are transcribed in this book. For most seekers of enlightenment or liberation, the search is long and arduous with many twists and turns along the way. Finding truth is all the more challenging because there are so many varying viewpoints. People are different genetically, culturally, emotionally, and so on. There are paths for devotional types, intellectual types, mystical types, and so forth. What most paths and religions have in common is that they allow the disciple to seek without ever actually finding. This does not mean such paths are fruitless. It simply means that there is always more to chase and more to seek. There is always a bigger and better experience to be had. There is always a promise of a better future (even though life can only be lived in the present). And there is almost never a point where one stops to say Aha. The goal is reached. I have found. I am complete. There is, of course, the rare case where that occurs, but it is sure to be the exception - not the rule. The few who claim to have found are nearly always the leaders, never the participants. This fact alone should give one pause. In this regard, the teachings of non duality are incredibly unique. They are unique because they leave room only for finding and none for seeking! In Advaita, seeking is patently absurd because it implies a future time of finding. If all that exists is oneness, how can there be a past or future? Past and future are concepts in the mind, while the present moment - right here right now - is all that truly is. If there is an opposite to Advaita, it is the act of seeking! Advaita is based on understanding reality and existence from the broadest possible viewpoint. It is entirely unconcerned with practices, disciplines, rituals, and experiences. Seekers looking for greater self development or for promises of a better future will not find them here. Non duality rejects preferences, and considers no experience, positive or negative, one iota better or worse than another. For seekers who are ripe, non duality brings ending upon ending, until only freedom remains. Once it is recognized that the reference point we live from, the me, is based on nothing more than a collection of thoughts and images, any sense of self importance and individuality ends. Once the definition of reality is seen to be that which never changes, the illusory nature of our apparent creation is exposed. As soon as the essential oneness of
[FairfieldLife] Re: ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
YeeHAH! Another one bites the dust! Show's over, folks! :-) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From James Braha: Below is the Intro to my new book (5 pages), which is close to being finished. ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality Introduction What you are about to read is the final chapter in my search for liberation. What I mean by liberation is an end to the nagging feeling of separateness from Source (or Essence) that was present since as long as I can remember. And the death of the never ending sense of becoming, as well as the relentless concerns over past and future - death included. After engaging in many spiritual paths for some thirty years, the end finally came through the Hindu teachings of Advaita, also known as non duality. The literal definition of Advaita (classically pronounced ad-veye- ta, sometimes pronounced ad-vey-ta) is not two, a preferable way of describing oneness because oneness implies the possibility of more than one. The term oneness refers to the underlying or essential oneness of all manifestation. Scientifically this oneness can be seen within the fact that all matter can be broken down into sub atomic particles, which is then seen as nothing more than light or emptiness or space. Everything in manifestation is, thus, made up of one, and only one, essence. Within our experience of life, which is tremendously varied and full of differences, there is an integral facet that is almost entirely ignored. And that is the sameness or oneness that is constantly present and makes all experience possible. It is called Presence Awareness and is essentially the present moment - right here right now. It is the right here right now that has always been and will always be. It is the right here right now that you experienced at age five and is with you even as you read this page. It was present at birth, it is present at death. Presence Awareness. Right here right now. Our one constant. In early 2004, I had the great good fortune to pick up a book called What's Wrong With Right Now Unless You Think About it? by an Australian teacher named Sailor Bob Adamson. Bob's search ended in the mid 1970's when he studied with the great Hindu sage Nisargadatta Maharaj. He has been teaching non duality ever since. As fate would have it, Bob and his wife came to America and stayed at our home for five weeks. During that time, he gave many wonderful talks and teachings, most of which are transcribed in this book. For most seekers of enlightenment or liberation, the search is long and arduous with many twists and turns along the way. Finding truth is all the more challenging because there are so many varying viewpoints. People are different genetically, culturally, emotionally, and so on. There are paths for devotional types, intellectual types, mystical types, and so forth. What most paths and religions have in common is that they allow the disciple to seek without ever actually finding. This does not mean such paths are fruitless. It simply means that there is always more to chase and more to seek. There is always a bigger and better experience to be had. There is always a promise of a better future (even though life can only be lived in the present). And there is almost never a point where one stops to say Aha. The goal is reached. I have found. I am complete. There is, of course, the rare case where that occurs, but it is sure to be the exception - not the rule. The few who claim to have found are nearly always the leaders, never the participants. This fact alone should give one pause. In this regard, the teachings of non duality are incredibly unique. They are unique because they leave room only for finding and none for seeking! In Advaita, seeking is patently absurd because it implies a future time of finding. If all that exists is oneness, how can there be a past or future? Past and future are concepts in the mind, while the present moment - right here right now - is all that truly is. If there is an opposite to Advaita, it is the act of seeking! Advaita is based on understanding reality and existence from the broadest possible viewpoint. It is entirely unconcerned with practices, disciplines, rituals, and experiences. Seekers looking for greater self development or for promises of a better future will not find them here. Non duality rejects preferences, and considers no experience, positive or negative, one iota better or worse than another. For seekers who are ripe, non duality brings ending upon ending, until only freedom remains. Once it is recognized that the reference point we live from, the me, is based on nothing more than a collection of thoughts and images, any sense of self importance and individuality ends. Once the definition of reality is seen to be that which never changes, the illusory nature
Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra on 4/12/05 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter I do believe M has stated many years ago that one needs to have perfect health to gain BC but once it has stabilized you can more or less let your body go to hell. In M's case he may have been diabetic in his youth but kept it under control through proper diet. There was a stretch in Seelisberg where he ate nothing but ice cream for two weeks. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/12/05 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There was a stretch in Seelisberg where he ate nothing but ice cream for two weeks. Ahh, yes! The famous Seelisberg Diet Plan! Try it for two weeks and I guarantee you too will be a diabetic Maharishi. Or at least a Maharishi. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I should have asked for how long i could teach under the new banner. - Original Message - From: rudra_joe To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available - Original Message - From: Kirk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available 20,000 dollars, are you fucking crazy? Get lost. You mean before you needed to be Re re-certified ;) JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:30 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: on 4/12/05 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED]... at [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: There was a stretch in Seelisberg where he ate nothing but ice cream for two weeks.Ahh, yes! The famous Seelisberg Diet Plan! Try it for two weeks and I guarantee you too will be a diabetic Maharishi. Or at least a Maharishi.:-)To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever. Well not precisely *stir* -- I mean *churn*. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
That's what I meant. Or perhaps, like camphor which evaporates soo also do all one's great works for the guru. - Original Message - From: jyouells2000 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:48 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: I should have asked for how long i could teach under the new banner. - Original Message - From: rudra_joe To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 11:30 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available- Original Message - From: Kirk To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available 20,000 dollars, are you fucking crazy? Get lost.You mean before you needed to be Re re-certified ;) JohnYTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Support the Universe- A Poem On Meditation
Support the Universe- A Poem on Meditation Support the Universe Support the Galaxy Support the Planet Support the Continent Support the Nation Support the State Support the City Support the Community Support the Family Support the Self Stillness Destroy the self Destroy the family Destroy the community Destroy the city Destroy the state Destroy the nation Destroy the continent Destroy the planet Destroy the galaxy Destroy the universe To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Oh Shit
yikes. Liberation demands you. It's your head. So now it's mine says Kali. So you might as well just give it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Shit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yikes. Liberation demands you. It's your head. So now it's mine says Kali. So you might as well just give it. Yeah, I hear you give good head. (Sorry, Kali could not resist.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
It is to say, however, that the finding of one's true nature occurs in a moment of understanding. Well put. Reality, consciousness, has always been everywhere, which is why it is so easy to overlook. Ever tried to see your own eye? Without a mirror :) Nearly half the world accepts the concept of maya - the concept that the world is an illusion. But almost no one lives as if they believe the fact! That's because the world ***feels*** so real. That moment of understanding can help you realize that just because something feels real, doesn't actually make it real. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know the answer to these. Do you? There is only Vaj. Don't you guys live in the same town? You ought to get together. Or is that as likely as the Dana/Rory get-together? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 1:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know the answer to these. Do you? There is only Vaj. Don't you guys live in the same town? You ought to get together. Or is that as likely as the Dana/Rory get-together? Contrary to popular belief, Maine is not the size of Fairfield...at least in the normal sense of spacetime :-) I thought you were both in Portland. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Technically, one beats cream with a beater, or whips it with a whip. Noone makes Ice Cream by stirring it, or it would take forever to make and then people like Maharishi would live longer not pandering to their own death wish being diabetics, and not feel the pressure to make us sell out our friends and families for him, so as to liberate them from the evil clutches of maya. You see. Beating is the key, not stirring. We must beat things for the Maharishis. Stirring just isn't gonna cut it you hear me Rory?I told you you wouldn't make it in the kitchen. But as a customer, well, come back later, the ice cream isn't ready. Ah nevermind, we're shortstaffed. I'll work with you until you can beat it just right;) No I didn't mean it like that, I was just kidding. I mean it. On the other hand we can all just stop and do nothing and let things go to hell. Usually I figured that that's what had happened anyway. And I was just left picking up the pieces. Actually, if we all just did nothing, and let everything take care of itself. That would be nice. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:52 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/12/05 1:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought you were both in Portland. Only Dana lives in Portland, and even he doesn't. I live in Saco; Steve lives down (up) in Bucksport. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Actually, if we all just did nothing, and let everything take care of itself. That would be nice. That IS nice. Yes, it *does* take forever to stir (or churn) ice cream. (Quite different from cream.) But it is worth the time/effort. Or was. Last tried it in 1967. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Advice on Non-Dual Presence
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: huuge snip This short text by snip... ...the famous philospher, On Too Long. Or was it his brother Wei Too Long? Either way, good stuff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
u churn butter Ice cream in theoryis a frozen creme anglaise which is a cooked egg yolk and milk product. The creme anglaise is beaten until all the crystals line up and then it becomes creamy, unlike beaten cream or eggs, which reach a peak and then collaspe. Ice cream since it is cooked and ready to be eaten as is, as usually in a sauce, can be taken further, to a pudding stage, as in custard, or more fully whacked until it performs like a maharishi demands, fully beaten and enlightened anglaise. It does reach a pinnacle of perfection that even God can't resist. Yes, even God can't resist ice cream. Tell that to the preacherman. While he's checking out the young boys. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:53 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.Well not precisely *stir* -- I mean *churn*.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Shit
Any head is good head, or so says Kali, forgive me Ma for speaking for you. No, I don't want your job. I know, it does suck. I'm sorry. I am sorry Kali, but I can't take it back. You gotta have it Kali. You say you're gonna have my head anyway? Anyway? Then I can speak for you Dearest. Kali says Maharishi is going backwards for this planet. He is only for his retards. Because we're going on to greater and greater things. You're so right Dalin. - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 1:11 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Oh Shit --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: yikes. Liberation demands you. It's your head. So now it's mine says Kali. So you might as well just give it.Yeah, I hear you give good head. (Sorry, Kali could not resist.)To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, Of course if one is enlightened, everyone is, since everyone eventually reaches enlightenment and from the point of view of one who is enlightened all time is now, transcending time. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
That's because the world ***feels*** so real. That "moment of understanding" can help you realize that just because something feels real, doesn't actually make it real.---Ah yeah, but the more real it feels it becomes the more true. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u churn butter *You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I used. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, johnlasher20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow, but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall remain here, not fully enlightened, Of course if one is enlightened, everyone is, since everyone eventually reaches enlightenment and from the point of view of one who is enlightened all time is now, transcending time. EXACTLY! Well done, Grasshopper! :-) :-) :-) I and I pat ourSelf on our back. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence!Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo!Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence! Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo! Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up! Kirk, for some reason this cracked me up! :-) :-) I guess because it takes One to appreciate One ...:-) Laughing so hard I can hardly type. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rory Goff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence! Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo! Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up! Kirk, for some reason this cracked me up! :-) :-) I guess because it takes One to appreciate One ...:-) Laughing so hard I can hardly type. Our pleasure, Jim! Please see above -- it goes double for You :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 3:22 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u churn butter *You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I used. Funny how the content of these threads morph from topic to topic. Shall we rename this one ice cream? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
on 4/12/05 3:30 PM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $25,000 for sidhas to become teachers; My 2 1/2 month TTC was about $800. Estes Park, 1970 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $25,000 for sidhas to become teachers; $5,800 for TM teachers who have not taught in two years to be re- certified Two different courses... If you promise not to pay us $25,000, or $5,800, or anything else, we will pre-certify you as already perfectly enlightened Now, ever and forever THAT which you have always sought, and eminently qualified to do any blessed thing you please. (fine print: You may still have to work out any small remaining resistances to the Perfection of what IS, on/in your own time.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/12/05 3:22 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: u churn butter *You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I used. Funny how the content of these threads morph from topic to topic. Shall we rename this one ice cream? How about the devas, the asuras, and the churning of the Ocean of Ice Cream? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend , it was cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb 14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatra had a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search. (Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M with women. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
Rick Archer wrote: on 4/12/05 3:30 PM, bmorry2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: $25,000 for sidhas to become teachers; My 2 1/2 month TTC was about $800. Estes Park, 1970 Yeah those days gone but not forgotten (yet). First Humboldt was something like $275 for the course, room and board. My TTC (nine weeks in Majorca) was IIRC around $900 and that included airfare from L.A., room and board. I think they could make that price because we lived on Brussel sprouts. Maybe Rudra Joe could make that palatable, but he wasn't in the kitchen (AFAIK). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
And also because it's prolly so true. I guess we owe this one to Maharishi. Here's to you Maharishi! You rocked this world, but not quite as much as MTV. Well it's true. It sucks I know. It's not my fault. No it isn't. Sure Gandarva Ved is nice, yeah, it's nice, I play it sometimes. No it ain't gonna replace rock and roll, you know you can't say that to me Maharishi. Naw, I'll accept anything but not that. But here's to you anyway.;;) Look, I know I'm being an asshole Maharishi, but it's you who didn't want me. Remember? - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:28 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence! Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo! Bravo! Jim An appreciative audience, hey Rory, things are looking up!Kirk, for some reason this cracked me up! :-) :-) I guess because it takes One to appreciate One ...:-) Laughing so hard I can hardly type.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Each really made to support the other if all else fails, why cannot the people who dream this shit up not see more clearly that we can see through it all already. The Movement is a group of dunces who hijacked each other of their caps. The Movement, like anything else, is an empty mirror for us to hang our stories on To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
Well, I only have five dollars to my name. Actually $9.95 in the bank. And a few quarters. Is that enough? - Original Message - From: Rory Goff To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:39 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "bmorry2000" [EMAIL PROTECTED]... wrote: $25,000 for sidhas to become teachers; $5,800 for TM teachers who have not taught in two years to be re- certified Two different courses...If you promise not to pay us $25,000, or $5,800, or anything else, we will pre-certify you as already perfectly enlightened Now, ever and forever THAT which you have always sought, and eminently qualified to do any blessed thing you please. (fine print: You may still have to work out any small remaining resistances to the Perfection of what IS, on/in your own time.)To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Ah so what, Maharishi doesn't need any bad press, he has the MUM press corp. With his name on it! - Original Message - From: shukra69 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons "friend" , itwas cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatrahad a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search.(Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra)--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Written by a friend of mine about a year ago after he had dinner with Dr. Mahapatra He says he was M's personal physician from about 87 to 91. His English was a bit hard to understand so I'll do my best to relay some of the interesting things he said. After 91, (I'm not sure of exact dates) M had him as one of the people in charge of a group of 6000 boys (M calls them pundits...). At some point M's family told M that they didn't like what was going on with the big group (I don't have any details) and M dismantled the whole thing sending all the boys home to all the families consternation. Maha Patra was in the dog house after that, which sounded like about 95 or 96. He said it was very uncomfortable dealing with all the boys families during that time. Patra said in 87 he was called to M's side in Noida, India and M was rolling on the ground, screaming with the pain. He had pancreitis (sorry for spelling). Patra put him on a pain killer and a sedative. M eventually went to England for 6 months or so for treatment for this. M is diabetic and his family has a history of diabetes. I wonder if his high sugar intake had anything to do with it? When in England everything was kept very secret. When some reporters heard he was at a particular hotel, they would rapidly disappear to another location. During that time M had his heart attack. I didn't get much of the details. M didn't have heart surgery but he did have angeoplasty at a hospital in Holland. M used western drugs and western hospitals while promoting Ayurveda as the be all and end all. M has good days and bad days and has variety of health problems. He stays out of view on the bad days. Patra says M is a megamaniac after world power, (we're all surprised). He says the only ones M trusts are his family members, who he gives untold millions to. M thinks all Americans are CIA and is really paranoid. M asked him if he could test the blood of M's relatives to see if someone was trying to poison them. He says M's family members are not all good people or ethical people and that they have undue influence on M's decisions. He had not heard any stories of M withwomen. Patra said he spoke with Deepak, his friend, who told him that all the problems started one time when Deepak had to leave M and M wanted him to not go. Deepak told M that he had speaking engagements for thousands of people all set up and he had to go. M said he heard that Deepak was promoting Deepak and not M. Deepak said he always promoted M. M continued to be more negative and suspicious and things broke down from there. Patra says when anyone gets too popular in the movement or has too much of a following M cans them. Patra said when they had the clinic for the very seriously ill at Noida that M would promise them all healing. With severe cases the Vaijyas would tell M that they could only do so much. Patra was trained as an Oncologist and saw people he knew would die. M would promise them healing, then they would die. M would send out his people to collect the huge bills from the bereaved families after the people had died. He said he found that very upsetting. Patra said when he first started seeing M, M wanted him to work for the movement. He told Patra to not go back to hospitals anymore. Patra was about to get married and go into practice, but because of what M said he didn't. M told him the movement would support him and have a bank account he could draw on. He was to have 2 cooks an 2 secretaries. None of that materialized and he was given no money. Now he is in the US, can't pass the medical exams which he could have passed many years ago, and he is taking business courses. He does yagyas full time for Ralph Taylor, and has a group of 60 boys in India doing yagyas for Ralph.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
On Apr 12, 2005, at 2:17 PM, Gregory N Poole wrote: Nearly half the world accepts the concept of maya - the concept that the world is an illusion. But almost no one lives as if they believe the fact! That's because the world ***feels*** so real. That moment of understanding can help you realize that just because something feels real, doesn't actually make it real. And also it is worth pointing out that just because you feel you are in the non-dual state, does not mean you are. Having been around a teacher who transmits the non-dual state I've been lucky to be around many who felt they were in that state and who had gone beyond meditation, etc. Very few are and I see the same pattern around the Neo-Advaita set. The vast majority are not in the non-dual state but are in fact practicing vipasyana (whether they realize it or not). Not that that's a bad thing, but it ain't the non-dual state and it ain't enlightenment. Since vipasyana is seeing things as they really are it can be quite deceiving. Sadly a form of vanity tends to follow the wrong View. What amazed me is that a good teacher can dismantle a students wrong View in about 1 to 3 sentences. Correct View (darshana) is *essential*. I also found some of the articles claims, sadly, quite inaccurate. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM TTC Application Form Now Available on 4/12/05 4:04 PM, rudra_joe at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, I only have five dollars to my name. Actually $9.95 in the bank. And a few quarters. Is that enough? What do they pay you with? Surplus crawdads? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
on 4/12/05 3:41 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend , Yes it was. I know who he's referring to. But I think what happened is that Mahapatra has discussed this with various people, so it ended up on Trancenet. He then said pretty much the same stuff to this guy with whom he had dinner. it was cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb 14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatra had a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search. (Dr. Gyanendra Mahapatra) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: ULTIMATE FREEDOM: The One reality
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly a form of vanity tends to follow the wrong View. What amazed me is that a good teacher can dismantle a students wrong View in about 1 to 3 sentences. Correct View (darshana) is *essential*. I also found some of the articles claims, sadly, quite inaccurate. Oh, dear. We seem to have strayed apart again. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
