[FairfieldLife] Reincarnation of Elvis???
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: raaja-yoga?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: I think raaja-yoga might (also?) mean that it's meant primarily for /raaja-s/! Is there also a rani-yoga? An also-rani-yoga for second-rate yoginnis? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hgiammarco HEYPHILA@ wrote: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? MMY decided to target the elite since they are the most influential members of society and most likely to be able to donate large sums of money if they are so inclined. And as a result of this focus, the number of people learning TM has plunged to near-zero worldwide, indicating that what Maharishi seems to be most interested in is money, and *not* in helping people by teaching them a valuable technique of meditation. An interesting test case seems to be about to take place in the Florida courts, in which the organization that claims it wants to spread TM to as many people as possible is suing a TM teacher who is teaching TM for the price he's always taught it. He has not only refused to raise his prices because the TM organization demands that he do so, he has refused to pay that organization several thousand dollars to be recertified at teaching something he was fully certified to teach years ago. It should be interesting to see how the TM organization defends its position in court. The fascinating exchange in that case, in my opinion, is going to be when the fellow's lawyer asks the official, recertified teachers, under oath, how many people have been instructed in TM *in the entire world* in the last year at the official price, and that number turns out to be less than the number of people that the teacher they are suing has taught in one small town in Florida during the same period. The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. Shop around...you'll find that there are people out there who still care more about helping people by teaching them a useful technique of meditation for free or at a reason- able price than they care about making money. But you won't find them in the TM movement. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reincarnation of Elvis???
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.idolonfox.com/contestants/katharine_mcphee/ Not possible. Everyone who's seen Bubba Ho-Tep knows that Elvis is alive and well, living in an old folks' home in Texas, and fighting evil mummies there along with JFK, who lives in the same rest home. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The population on Earth today is nearly four times the number in 1900
There is Massive amount of Abortion of Female fetuses in China and India. This has caused an imbalance in the gender ratio in China and india. This is one of the reasons, experts state that Brothels will continue to flourish in big cities in China and india. By the way Sir Archer, I don't think I am getting all the posts. Is something wrong with Yahoo.?? shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sun, 26 Feb 2006 06:21:05 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: The population on Earth today is nearly four times the number in 1900 If we want to slow down the rate, maybe foufou macoute's homosexual agenda IS the answer... --- bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "A report issued by the Bureau in March 2004 noted that world population hit the 6 billion mark in June 1999. "This figure is over 3.5 times the size of the Earth's population at the beginning of the 20th century and roughly double its size in 1960," the study explained. Even more striking is that the time required for the global population to grow from 5 billion to 6 billion just a dozen years was shorter than the interval between any of the previous billions. On average, 4.4 people are born every second." more at link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11545564/ ** "However,when the people become predominately sinful, Yama the god of death sometimes engages himself in meditation for some years, druing which the population increases and explodes. The gods, frightened by this population explosion, resort to various devices to reduce it. All this has happened again and again countless times." http://tinyurl.com/6xndt , p.397 Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
TheFacts areslightly different. Over 90% of the indian population were illiterate back then. All the VedaShalas, the traditional Vedic Schools were open only to Brahmins and other elite classes. This is because the Brahmin would never sit with a Shudra and teach him the language. Sanskrit was not in the day-to-day use in India by the bulk of the indian population who had other mother-tongues. The British introduction of English into indian schools served as a Uniting force to all indians who has about 35 spoken languages and could easily communicate with each other with English. Even Mahatma Gandhi used English to communicate with other freedom-fighters all over india. This is exactly why, Sri. Aurobindo stated, "Nature tried everything she could to unite the whold of India, but couldn't, So Nature finally resorted to foreign invasions to unite the whole of India".bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 03 Mar 2006 01:31:09 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Sanskrit http://www.centralchronicle.com/20060303/0303302.htm Sanskrit and Macaulayan education"Literally meaning "refined and sanctified", and priding itself as cultured, Sanskrit is acclaimed as the best, sweetest and divine language (bhashasu mukhya madhura divya geervaan bharati). Sanskrit is the divine language revealed through the sages (Sanskritam naam daivi vaak anavyakhyata maharshibhihi). But though excepting Tirukkural which is in Tamil, almost all Hindu scriptures like Vedas, Upanishads, Ramayana and Mahabharata are written in Sanskrit, Sanskrit has been driven out of Indian schools and colleges by Macaulay's education introduced in India in 1835. Macaulayan education downgraded Indian languages including Sanskrit and replaced them with English. This education was introduced to de-Hinduize Hindus as is evident in Macaulay's following letter dated October 12, 1836 to his evangelist father, "Our English schools are flourishing wonderfully; we find it difficult to provide instruction to all. The effect of this education on Hindus is prodigious. No Hindu who has received an English education ever remains sincerely attached to his religion. It is my firm belief that if our plans of education are followed up, there will not be a single idolater among the respected classes 30 years hence. And this will be effected without our efforts to proselytize; I heartily rejoice in the prospect."De-Hinduized by Macaulayan education, and brain washed by Macaulayanmedia, most of Hindu intellectuals, MBAs, business persons, doctors, lawyers, chartered accountants, engineers, teachers and the rest are self-alienated and do not know Sanskrit, and do not know much about Hindu religion or heritage, or about Vedas, Upanishads, Ramayana, Mahabharata or Tirukkural. India was expected to discard Macaulayism after the British left in 1947. On September 10, 1949, Dr. B.R. Ambedkar even sponsored an amendment making Sanskrit as the official language of India. But the said amendment was defeated in the Constituent Assembly. However, Sanskrit was included in the Eighth Schedule of Indian Constitution. But shockingly, Macaulay's missionary-oriented colonial education and neglect of Sanskrit is still gripping Independent India. After banishing Sanskrit from Indian schools and colleges, Macaulayists call Sanskrit 'the dead language'. Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Facts are slightly different. Over 90% of the indian population were illiterate back then. All the VedaShalas, the traditional Vedic Schools were open only to Brahmins and other elite classes. I'm not terribly interested in Jason's latest India- bash, but since he's brought up the category of Strange and interesting facts about literacy, what country on the planet, in 1990, had the *highest* percentage of literacy among its population on the planet? Hint: the same country, today, has one of the lowest percentages of literacy. You guessed it...Iraq. From the most literate nation on the planet under Saddam Hussein pre-GWI to one of the least literate, under US rule, post-GWII. Fascinating, eh? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Mike Scozarri being sued
Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone sent me the following: This is serious. He needs a legal defense fund. Does he have a case to argue? He is using a trademarked name against the wishes of the trademark holder. And depending what agreements he signed at his TTC or beyond, he may be violating a contract. And he needs all the 'dirt' on the movement that we can discover. And people willing to be witnesses, etc. Why would dirt on the TMO be relevant in trial to determine if Mike is breaking trademark law? If the TMO broke other laws, they would need to be tried for that. Is the poster suggesting sexie-sadie files or ru dissatisfaction with fund raising will make a jury go oh dear, then their trademark is no good.? If he loses this, then there will be legal precedent Where is there precedent? Is an appeals court hearing the case already -- interpreting new unsettled issues in trademerk and contract law? and they will go after EVERYONE that is teaching And why does the TMO winning the scozarri case make them more likely to do that? And why does losing it make them less likely? and that will be the end of it. No more TM technique. Because the independents are the only one really teaching. How many are teaching in the US -- using TMO trademarks? Just a handful I would imagine. Its all ready pretty much over. Though teaching Beatles meditation or TransX Meditation by word of mouth should not be a problem. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hgiammarco HEYPHILA@ wrote: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? sparaig wrote: MMY decided to target the elite since they are the most influential members of society and most likely to be able to donate large sums of money if they are so inclined. Turquoise B wrote: And as a result of this focus, the number of people learning TM has plunged to near-zero worldwide, indicating that what Maharishi seems to be most interested in is money, and *not* in helping people by teaching them a valuable technique of meditation. Actually, altho MMY may be very interested in money, he would be making more by allowing teachers of TM to teach the technique for much less than thte current $2500 fee in the USA. Instruction would pickup world-wide and the TMO would have more income. I suspect he is making enough from selling real estate and from the donations that people make to become raja's - costs a fortune (a million dollars per person) and is simple and not time consuming to have a raja course. I know that MMY has been told by many teachers and higher ups in the TMO, over the last few years, that more people would learn TM if the price were reduced, and that the TMO would make more money if the price were reduced. MMY is adament that the price stay high, unyeilding about this. l I have heard some teachers still involved say that they think MMY does not really want many people to learn TM anymore, that is no longer his goal. Or only the rich. Why? Who knows. An interesting test case seems to be about to take place in the Florida courts, in which the organization that claims it wants to spread TM to as many people as possible is suing a TM teacher who is teaching TM for the price he's always taught it. He has not only refused to raise his prices because the TM organization demands that he do so, he has refused to pay that organization several thousand dollars to be recertified at teaching something he was fully certified to teach years ago. It should be interesting to see how the TM organization defends its position in court. The fascinating exchange in that case, in my opinion, is going to be when the fellow's lawyer asks the official, recertified teachers, under oath, how many people have been instructed in TM *in the entire world* in the last year at the official price, and that number turns out to be less than the number of people that the teacher they are suing has taught in one small town in Florida during the same period. Not really - there are people learning in big cities like LA, chicago and Manhattan. Not many, but a few every few months. And David Lynch's education foundation which pays for young students to learn TM has resulted in at least a few hundred initiations so far (most are underpriveleged students who are in bad situations, which is why their schools agree to allow TM in the first place). There are also a few students learning at each campus after he speaks there. The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. Shop around...you'll find that there are people out there who still care more about helping people by teaching them a useful technique of meditation for free or at a reason- able price than they care about making money. But you won't find them in the TM movement. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: raaja-yoga?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: I think raaja-yoga might (also?) mean that it's meant primarily for /raaja-s/! Is there also a rani-yoga? An also-rani-yoga for second-rate yoginnis? Then there is rant-yoga. Several high adepts are in this group. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
With all due respect, I think you're fighting a bad case of self-importance with a bad case of self-importance. :-) It's a *good* thing that this case goes to court. It will expose the curious behavior of the TM movement to the world at large, and that world will then make its deter- mination. If the Florida courts decide as most courts in the US these days do -- in favor of the corporation instead of the buying public -- that will mean that the use of the trademark will be upheld. But what does that *really* mean for the teachers who still want to teach, outside the TM organization? My guess is that it'll mean an opportunity for increased initiations. I know that if I were in the position of teaching and was successfully sued by the TMO, what I would do at that point is simply change the name of the technique I was teaching and then put the results of the lawsuit on right on the posters as a *selling point*, not a negative. Something along the lines of: Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) But if they don't, the decision will reflect badly on the TMO, not on the teachers who continue to teach BubbaMed or whatever they choose to call what they teach. The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, they'll know where to go if they want to learn a technique of meditation that is still priced to appeal to someone who isn't rich. Let the elitists appeal to the elitists they want to recruit into their cult. If you feel the call to teach, you can find a way to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? The truth is that it is not they or some distant and unnamed bastards who are doing this - keeping the price of officially sanctioned TM high. It is Maharishi himself. He himself decided the price, despite the attempts of many people around him to explain the consequences. He has been adament and unyeilding. He is also well aware of the figures of how many learn each month and how much income it does or does not generate.The true believers feel he has some unstated higher purpose for this decision to keep the price so high. The lawyers who will be acting on behalf of the TMO and Maharishi are doing just that - at least some of them are devoted to him and his decisions - and if MMY wants to stop people from teaching TM for less than his standard price, these lawyers will feel it is their mission to do exactly as Maharishi wants. IMO, I don't think that means that MMY would necessarily be personally angry with the teachers who teach outside of the official TMO. Who knows, he might applaud them! Maybe he is playing a cosmic game here and watching everyone dance about. Really strange situation and a fascinating battle. It will be really interesting to see the TMO and MMY's response to this situation should they lose the lawsuit! And also interesting to see what teachers around the world do and if TM instruction actually picks up. Also, Tm is not the only technique that can take a person in the directionof Enlightenment. So if a person really wants to learn to meditate, there are other valid methods on this planet, some for free. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: The bondage to a spiritual path, while necessary, is one of the deepest attachments there is. That is why all sadhanas must eventually destroy themselves in Realization. God help the person who spends decades on a spiritual path with no liberation because what you get are mood-making fanatics who are more invested in the conceptual dogma of Realization than actual Realization. They confound the concept with the experience. --Mushi Mu, Third Zen Patriarch (from his classic What is My True Dog Nature, Bantam Book, 1987) Being conceptually Realized is like conceptually going to work and conceptually getting paid. You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm waiting Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid you that twenty, with another conceptual ten in interest... nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty bucks...no, make that twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! 10,000,000 Swiss Francs transferred to your account as we speak! I believe if you're going to have the proper conceptual vastu you must transfer 10,000,000 Raams ... ;-) JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- Nothing prevents the TMO from serving papers to all indepenents now? There is no need for precident. precedent has power! Precident generally has to do with rulings by a court of judges -- such as the Appeals Court and the Supreme Court where disputes over the interpetation of law are ruled upon. Jury trials generally don't set precidents. If the case is appealed, and a new interpretation of trademark law is made, that would set precident. What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? I guess so. What are these specific violations of trademark law? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. How was Mike threatened -- other than to be asked to stop violating the trademark -- under threat of legal action. From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Someone sent me the following: This is serious. He needs a legal defense fund. Does he have a case to argue? He is using a trademarked name against the wishes of the trademark holder. And depending what agreements he signed at his TTC or beyond, he may be violating a contract. And he needs all the 'dirt' on the movement that we can discover. And people willing to be witnesses, etc. Why would dirt on the TMO be relevant in trial to determine if Mike is breaking trademark law? If the TMO broke other laws, they would need to be tried for that. Is the poster suggesting sexie-sadie files or ru dissatisfaction with fund raising will make a jury go oh dear, then their trademark is no good.? If he loses this, then there will be legal precedent Where is there precedent? Is an appeals court hearing the case already -- interpreting new unsettled issues in trademerk and contract law? and they will go after EVERYONE that is teaching And why does the TMO winning the scozarri case make them more likely to do that? And why does losing it make them less likely? and that will be the end of it. No more TM technique. Because the independents are the only one really teaching. How many are teaching in the US -- using TMO trademarks? Just a handful I would imagine. Its all ready pretty much over. Though teaching Beatles meditation or TransX Meditation by word of mouth should not be a problem. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With all due respect, I think you're fighting a bad case of self-importance with a bad case of self-importance. :-) It's a *good* thing that this case goes to court. It will expose the curious behavior of the TM movement to the world at large, and that world will then make its deter- mination. If the Florida courts decide as most courts in the US these days do -- in favor of the corporation instead of the buying public -- that will mean that the use of the trademark will be upheld. But what does that *really* mean for the teachers who still want to teach, outside the TM organization? My guess is that it'll mean an opportunity for increased initiations. I know that if I were in the position of teaching and was successfully sued by the TMO, what I would do at that point is simply change the name of the technique I was teaching and then put the results of the lawsuit on right on the posters as a *selling point*, not a negative. Something along the lines of: Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? What part of trademak law would that violate? Is there a stealth statue in there that all trademarks will becom null and void if the holders have any rajas with robes and crowns? The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, um, why do most other trademark cases go to court, if not for financial reasons.? And how does stopping independents make the TMO more money? Those people learing from an indie for $200 are now going to go shucks, guess we need to bite the bullet and cough up $2500.? If you go out as anindie, I suggest the following name and slogan: BubbleHeadMed -- makes your mind really clear. Just like me Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- hgiammarco wrote: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? Maharishi sets the prices, and in his eyes, it's worth it. Maharishi promises great things from the regular practice of TM. As someone noted in an intro lecture I once gave, If TM does half the things you say it will, it's worth twice the money. In Maharishi's world, TM does *all* the things he says it will, and is hence a bargain at the price. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. States sometimes have the right to have certain cases handled by a judge or panel of judges. What part of trademak law would that violate? Is there a stealth statue in there that all trademarks will becom null and void if the holders have any rajas with robes and crowns? No, but if it is handled by a judge -- *or* a jury -- they will take one look at Mike Scozzari and look at the photos of the people running around in robes and gold Burger King crowns and make a decision as to which side in the dispute seems sane and which does not. The legal decision sometimes reflects how the judge or jury feels about the relative sanity of both sides. :-) The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, um, why do most other trademark cases go to court, if not for financial reasons.? And how does stopping independents make the TMO more money? Those people learing from an indie for $200 are now going to go shucks, guess we need to bite the bullet and cough up $2500.? You are easily intimidated. I presume you have never bought a generic medication because you actually *enjoy* paying more. :-) Then again, given your TB rant below, it is actually possible that you *do* enjoy paying more. :-) :-) :-) If you go out as anindie, I suggest the following name and slogan: BubbleHeadMed -- makes your mind really clear. Just like me Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hgiammarco HEYPHILA@ wrote: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? MMY decided to target the elite since they are the most influential members of society and most likely to be able to donate large sums of money if they are so inclined. And as a result of this focus, the number of people learning TM has plunged to near-zero worldwide, indicating that what Maharishi seems to be most interested in is money, and *not* in helping people by teaching them a valuable technique of meditation. An interesting test case seems to be about to take place in the Florida courts, in which the organization that claims it wants to spread TM to as many people as possible is suing a TM teacher who is teaching TM for the price he's always taught it. He has not only refused to raise his prices because the TM organization demands that he do so, he has refused to pay that organization several thousand dollars to be recertified at teaching something he was fully certified to teach years ago. It should be interesting to see how the TM organization defends its position in court. The fascinating exchange in that case, in my opinion, is going to be when the fellow's lawyer asks the official, recertified teachers, under oath, how many people have been instructed in TM *in the entire world* in the last year at the official price, and that number turns out to be less than the number of people that the teacher they are suing has taught in one small town in Florida during the same period. The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. Shop around...you'll find that there are people out there who still care more about helping people by teaching them a useful technique of meditation for free or at a reason- able price than they care about making money. But you won't find them in the TM movement. I agree with your POV on the interesting legal exchange above. I would be interested in hearing more about your point of view in the last paragraph. Especially this part: The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. particularly what you have encountered that is better, and produces less potential negative effects. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. What part of trademak law would that violate? Is there a stealth statue in there that all trademarks will becom null and void if the holders have any rajas with robes and crowns? The issue I have in mind is one of relative sanity, not trademark rights. Try to imagine the scenario: You are in a Florida courtroom, in front of someone who is most likely a conservative Republican judge (and possibly a jury composed of equally conservative Americans, many of them terrified of cults). Mike's attorney is questioning the certified teachers who have filed this suit on the stand: Mike's Attorney: So this is a photo of the most recent gathering of the people who run the TM organization in Vlodrop, Switzerland. Can you tell us who these people are who are wearing the long flowing robes and crowns? True Believer: Well, they're the Rajas, of course. They are the people whom Maharishi has trusted to run his movement at this time. MA: And what did these people have to do to qualify to become Rajas? TB: Well, they each had to pay a million dollars each. That gives them the right to be Rajas, to wear these elegant robes and crowns, and to run things. MA: And this new policy of recertification that we've heard of -- in which previously-trained TM teachers are required to pay the TM organization several thous- and dollars, quit their jobs, and teach full time or not teach at all -- this policy was created by Maharishi and these Rajas. TB: That's correct. MA: And you are one of the people who paid several thousand dollars to be recertified and teach TM full time, and were promised a monthly salary for life if you did this? TB: Yes, that's correct. MA: And during this recertification course, did you learn any new skills or teaching methods, anything that you had not learned when you were *first* certified as a TM teacher? TB: No, I did not. MA: And, just as a matter of interest to the court, how many salary checks have you received from Maharishi and the Rajas since you became recertified and learned nothing that you hadn't already learned years ago? TB: Well, I got one the first month, but none since then. MA: And how many people have you taught TM to here in Broward County since becoming one of these recertified TM teachers? TB: Well, none, actually. MA: And how many people has the defendant taught in that same period? TB: Several dozen, I would imagine. ...and so on... The issue IMO is that the TM organization has so completely lost touch with reality that it thinks people on a jury or conservative judges behind a bench are going look favorably on this kind of behavior, behavior which in their minds marks them clearly as cultists, being taken advantage of by an organization that is ripping them off. It *could* go the other way, but I suspect that in the political climate that is America right now, it won't... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The fascinating exchange in that case, in my opinion, is going to be when the fellow's lawyer asks the official, recertified teachers, under oath, how many people have been instructed in TM *in the entire world* in the last year at the official price, and that number turns out to be less than the number of people that the teacher they are suing has taught in one small town in Florida during the same period. Unless that isn't what it turns out to be. As I understand it, the official price in India is much less (and perhaps in some poorer countries as well). Anybody have any idea how many initiations are taking place in other than wealthy Western countries? An interesting test case seems to be about to take place in the Florida courts, in which the organization that claims it wants to spread TM to as many people as possible is suing a TM teacher who is teaching TM for the price he's always taught it. Is the TMO still making that claim? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) But if they don't, the decision will reflect badly on the TMO, not on the teachers who continue to teach BubbaMed or whatever they choose to call what they teach. The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, they'll know where to go if they want to learn a technique of meditation that is still priced to appeal to someone who isn't rich. Let the elitists appeal to the elitists they want to recruit into their cult. If you feel the call to teach, you can find a way to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 tmforlife108@ wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Someone sent me the following: This is serious. He needs a legal defense fund. Does he have a case to argue? He is using a trademarked name against the wishes of the trademark holder. And depending what
Re: [FairfieldLife] Mike Scozarri being sued
That's it in a nutshell. There was an agreement that a TM teacher was one for life and could teach TM, no conditions attached. What people should really consider doing is *everyone* who can start teaching again, and letting the TMO know. They can't go after everybody. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:22 AM, tmforlife108 wrote: If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later!
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. What part of trademak law would that violate? Is there a stealth statute in there that all trademarks will becom null and void if the holders have any rajas with robes and crowns? The issue I have in mind is one of relative sanity, not trademark rights. Oh, is Mike filing a counter-suit using Florida's sanity Laws to sue the TMO? Try to imagine the scenario: You are in a Florida courtroom, in front of someone who is most likely a conservative Republican judge Why is that? Do you have breakdown of judge political leanings in Florida. As I remember, the state is a swing state -- about 50/50 split dem rep. Wasn't there an election there decided by only 300 votes? (and possibly a jury composed of equally conservative Americans, many of them terrified of cults). Possibly. And possibly martians. But what is the actual likelihood in a purple state -- red and blue? And is your point that democrats like cults? And all conservative republicans hate them? Sorry I didn't see that polls. btw, is Tim LeHaye and all a cult? Mike's attorney is questioning the certified teachers who have filed this suit on the stand: Mike's Attorney: So this is a photo of the most recent gathering of the people who run the TM organization in Vlodrop, Switzerland. Can you tell us who these people are who are wearing the long flowing robes and crowns? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. True Believer: Well, they're the Rajas, of course. They are the people whom Maharishi has trusted to run his movement at this time. MA: And what did these people have to do to qualify to become Rajas? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: Well, they each had to pay a million dollars each. That gives them the right to be Rajas, to wear these elegant robes and crowns, and to run things. MA: And this new policy of recertification that we've heard of -- in which previously-trained TM teachers are required to pay the TM organization several thous- and dollars, quit their jobs, and teach full time or not teach at all -- this policy was created by Maharishi and these Rajas. Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: That's correct. MA: And you are one of the people who paid several thousand dollars to be recertified and teach TM full time, and were promised a monthly salary for life if you did this? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: Yes, that's correct. MA: And during this recertification course, did you learn any new skills or teaching methods, anything that you had not learned when you were *first* certified as a TM teacher? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: No, I did not. MA: And, just as a matter of interest to the court, how many salary checks have you received from Maharishi and the Rajas since you became recertified and learned nothing that you hadn't already learned years ago? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: Well, I got one the first month, but none since then. MA: And how many people have you taught TM to here in Broward County since becoming one of these recertified TM teachers? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: Well, none, actually. MA: And how many people has the defendant taught in that same period? Plantiff Attoney: Objection your honor. Irrelevant to trademark law. Judge: Sustained. TB: Several dozen, I would imagine. ...and so on... The issue IMO [in Turqie
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's it in a nutshell. There was an agreement that a TM teacher was one for life and could teach TM, no conditions attached. What people should really consider doing is *everyone* who can start teaching again, and letting the TMO know. They can't go after everybody. Sal Around the US and world we hear many distinct cries of: I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus.I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus.I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:22 AM, tmforlife108 wrote: If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
See A Civil Action last night? (Great movie) Supposedly less than 2 percent of lawsuits actually end up going to trial. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. States sometimes have the right to have certain cases handled by a judge or panel of judges.
[FairfieldLife] FFL only in the US
Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... Scorpianon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's it in a nutshell. There was an agreement that a TM teacher was one for life I don't remember that agreement? When did the TMO and I enter into that contract? I do rememer a contract where I agreed to teach according to the dictates of the organizations. And it was implied or stated that if I didn't, I could not teach. and could teach TM, no conditions attached. No conditions? When was this? 1962? By 1970 there were conditions up the wazoo as I recall. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... This is only partly true. FFL is clearly visible from these sites, but the Yahoo Groups *search engine* does not seem to find strings in the group's description. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See A Civil Action last night? (Great movie) Supposedly less than 2 percent of lawsuits actually end up going to trial. Sal Just curious. Are you bringing that up because you think that supports Turq's assertion? On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. States sometimes have the right to have certain cases handled by a judge or panel of judges. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: The Facts are slightly different. Over 90% of the indian population were illiterate back then. All the VedaShalas, the traditional Vedic Schools were open only to Brahmins and other elite classes. I'm not terribly interested in Jason's latest India- bash, but since he's brought up the category of Strange and interesting facts about literacy, what country on the planet, in 1990, had the *highest* percentage of literacy among its population on the planet? Hint: the same country, today, has one of the lowest percentages of literacy. You guessed it...Iraq. From the most literate nation on the planet under Saddam Hussein pre-GWI Nitpick: Not nearly the most literate, actually. There are dozens of countries with literacy percentages in the high 90s; Iraq's had become quite high due to Saddam's compulsory literacy program, but it never got much above 90 percent. Most literate *Arab* country, perhaps. to one of the least literate, under US rule, post-GWII. Fascinating, eh? Especially given that writing may have been invented in Iraq. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The population on Earth today is nearly four times the number in 1900
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The population on Earth today is nearly four times the number in 1900 on 3/5/06 6:08 AM, Jason Spock at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is Massive amount of Abortion of Female fetuses in China and India. This has caused an imbalance in the gender ratio in China and india. This is one of the reasons, experts state that Brothels will continue to flourish in big cities in China and india. By the way Sir Archer, I don't think I am getting all the posts. Is something wrong with Yahoo.?? Not that I know of. Is anyone else having this problem? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
Something like that. Maybe someone will make a movie of all this insanity in a few years. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:48 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's it in a nutshell. There was an agreement that a TM teacher was > one for life and could teach TM, no conditions attached. What people > should really consider doing is *everyone* who can start teaching > again, and letting the TMO know. They can't go after everybody. > > Sal Around the US and world we hear many distinct cries of: I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus.I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus.I am Scozarri-Sparticus. I am Scozarri-Sparticus.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
What assertion is that? I just brought it up as an interesting little fact, nothing more. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 9:56 AM, a_non_moose_ff wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > See A Civil Action last night? (Great movie) Supposedly less than 2 > percent of lawsuits actually end up going to trial. > > Sal Just curious. Are you bringing that up because you think that supports Turq's assertion? > > On Mar 5, 2006, at 8:43 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? > > > > It may not be up to him. States sometimes have the > > right to have certain cases handled by a judge or > > panel of judges.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not terribly interested in Jason's latest India- bash, but since he's brought up the category of Strange and interesting facts about literacy, what country on the planet, in 1990, had the *highest* percentage of literacy among its population on the planet? Hint: the same country, today, has one of the lowest percentages of literacy. You guessed it...Iraq. From the most literate nation on the planet under Saddam Hussein pre-GWI Just curious. So the literacy rate went from the high 90s to maybe low 40's or 50's in 15 or so years? Normal death rates are less than 1% a year in literate countries -- so if ALL formal and informal education stopped immediately (a hard assertion to swallow), one might reasonably estimate the literacy rate fell to low 80's. So, what happened to all those other 30-40% reading and writin' Iraquis? Did the US invaders shoot them all? Or did they hook the readers up to a giant brain vacuum and suck the literacy skills right out of them? Has Art Bell or the National Inquirer got their hands on this scoop yet? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:37 AM, wayback71 wrote: I suspect he is making enough from selling real estate and from the donations that people make to become raja's - costs a fortune (a million dollars per person) and is simple and not time consuming to have a raja course. I know that MMY has been told by many teachers and higher ups in the TMO, over the last few years, that more people would learn TM if the price were reduced, and that the TMO would make more money if the price were reduced.
Re: [FairfieldLife] FFL only in the US
on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US folks find us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all the time. Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US folks find us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all the time. Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can. I don't know if it's always been like that, but I found FFL in 2002 via yahoo.com, but couldn't find it via yahoo.co.uk. After I signed up I forgot about it, until now. Scorpianon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':- Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members i_TM - 5 members Anutadaka - 5 members Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response: Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'. Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups are listed including FFL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US folks find us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all the time. Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not terribly interested in Jason's latest India- bash, but since he's brought up the category of Strange and interesting facts about literacy, what country on the planet, in 1990, had the *highest* percentage of literacy among its population on the planet? Hint: the same country, today, has one of the lowest percentages of literacy. You guessed it...Iraq. From the most literate nation on the planet under Saddam Hussein pre-GWI Just curious. So the literacy rate went from the high 90s to maybe low 40's or 50's in 15 or so years? Normal death rates are less than 1% a year in literate countries -- so if ALL formal and informal education stopped immediately (a hard assertion to swallow), one might reasonably estimate the literacy rate fell to low 80's. So, what happened to all those other 30-40% reading and writin' Iraquis? Did the US invaders shoot them all? Or did they hook the readers up to a giant brain vacuum and suck the literacy skills right out of them? Has Art Bell or the National Inquirer got their hands on this scoop yet? I'm not sure exactly how a literacy rate is arrived at on a practical basis, especially in a country as unsettled as Iraq is now, but UNESCO and other official figures do show a significant drop. If the high figures came from Saddam's government, it's possible they were exaggerated. However, almost 50 percent of Iraq's population is under 15 years old. That means half its people were educated under the sanctions regime, which really did cripple its educational system (among others). Plus which, there has been a huge exodus from Iraq of educated families in recent years. Barry likes to, er, simplify things to make his putdowns, and he's never been too careful about his facts, but the basic point, that Iraq has lost ground with regard to literacy after having made considerable progress under Saddam, is valid. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':- Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members i_TM - 5 members Anutadaka - 5 members Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response: Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'. Did you try FairfieldLife (no space)? Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups are listed including FFL. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/5/06 9:51 AM, anonyff at anonyff@ wrote: Hey Rick, Did you know FFL is only visible from the US yahoo site? Anyone searching yahoo groups in Britain, Australia, France etc for Fairfield Life or Transcendental Meditation won't find this group. I don't know if you can change this, or if you want to... Is this a recent development? If not, how did all you out-of-US folks find us? We have people signing up from India and places like that all the time. Or at least we did. I would like to fix this if we can. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
on 3/5/06 11:01 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':- Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members i_TM - 5 members Anutadaka - 5 members Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response: Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'. Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups are listed including FFL. So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) Sal Actually,I did have those fantasies..when I was about 4 years old. On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:37 AM, wayback71 wrote: I suspect he is making enough from selling real estate and from the donations that people make to become raja's - costs a fortune (a million dollars per person) and is simple and not time consuming to have a raja course. I know that MMY has been told by many teachers and higher ups in the TMO, over the last few years, that more people would learn TM if the price were reduced, and that the TMO would make more money if the price were reduced. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: I'm not terribly interested in Jason's latest India- bash, but since he's brought up the category of Strange and interesting facts about literacy, what country on the planet, in 1990, had the *highest* percentage of literacy among its population on the planet? Hint: the same country, today, has one of the lowest percentages of literacy. You guessed it...Iraq. From the most literate nation on the planet under Saddam Hussein pre-GWI Just curious. So the literacy rate went from the high 90s to maybe low 40's or 50's in 15 or so years? Normal death rates are less than 1% a year in literate countries -- so if ALL formal and informal education stopped immediately (a hard assertion to swallow), one might reasonably estimate the literacy rate fell to low 80's. So, what happened to all those other 30-40% reading and writin' Iraquis? Did the US invaders shoot them all? Or did they hook the readers up to a giant brain vacuum and suck the literacy skills right out of them? Has Art Bell or the National Inquirer got their hands on this scoop yet? I'm not sure exactly how a literacy rate is arrived at on a practical basis, especially in a country as unsettled as Iraq is now, but UNESCO and other official figures do show a significant drop. If the high figures came from Saddam's government, it's possible they were exaggerated. However, almost 50 percent of Iraq's population is under 15 years old. That means half its people were educated under the sanctions regime, which really did cripple its educational system (among others). Plus which, there has been a huge exodus from Iraq of educated families in recent years. Good points. I was assuming post high school literacy rates -- which is how Ihave seen them reported before, and a fairly stable population. Literacy rates, aged 15-24, both sexes, per cent (UNESCO) [MDG]41.0 IraqLiteracy rates, aged 15-24, women, per cent (UNESCO) 24.9 IraqLiteracy rates, aged 15-24, men, per cent (UNESCO) 56.4 But in 1990, for 15-24 year olds, the literacy rate was quite low. Hardly the highest in the world. http://unstats.un.org/unsd/mi/mi_results.asp?crID=368fID=r15 15 years and above 1990 1998%ch Total 62.975.512.6 Female 53.169.216.1 Male71.981.69.7 http://www.accu.or.jp/litdbase/efa/cs_irn.htm Actually the literacy rate was pretty low in 1990 for 15 yr olds and above, but did increase 12% after the first gulf war,and sanctons, through 1998. Still, 75% is modest compared to Europe, Americas etc. So where Barry got that Iraq was #1 in 1990 is um baffling. And assuming the rate through to the second gulf war was equal or greater than the 1998 level, its hard to believe it fell 30-40% in 2-3 years -- even given the factors you cite. It appears Barry is, as often is the case, full of merde. Barry likes to, er, simplify things to make his putdowns, and he's never been too careful about his facts, Yes, why stick with pesky facts and logic when you can make fantastic, fabulous and clever sounding witicisms! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip +++ If the case is in a Florida court, the outcome would likely be unpredictable due to the many possible influences there. Recall the vote counting situation some years back when the president was appointed. Last year, a court there handed down a decision that sentenced a person to death by starvation and dehydration. And, if the LR Hubbard people get involved, it will go their way as they run part of Florida. With all the various agendas there, it should be interesting. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
In a message dated 3/5/06 11:08:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) SalActually,I did have those fantasies..when I was about 4 years old. Hehehehe, Is it true that recerts have to bow before the Rajas? What if you refused to bow before them? I think I might be more inclined to bend over and moon them myself. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip Do we even know if the case is being pursued under federal or state trademark law? I would assume the TMO is using the federal law so i) they can argue essentially the same case in any state, and ii) if appealled they might gain some useful precidents that can be used across the nation. If the case is is federal courts, then the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies without question. In contrast to a Florida court, where the right to a jury trial probably applies -- though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Trademark Under the Lanham Act, a seller applies to register a trademark with the Patent and Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/). The mark can already be in use or be one that will be used in the future. See § 1051 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1115.html) of the Act. The Office's regulations pertaining to trademarks are found in Parts 1 - 7 of Title 37 of the Code of Federal Regulations. If the trademark is initially, approved by an examiner, it is published in the Official Gazette of the Trademark Office to notify other parties of the pending approval so that it may be opposed. See §§ 1062 - 1063 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1062.html) An appeals process is available for rejected applications. See §§ 1070 - 1071 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1070.html) Under state common law, trademarks are protected as part of the law of unfair competition. Registration is not required. See Unfair Competition. States' statutory provisions on trademarks differ but most have adopted a version of the Model Trademark Bill (MTB) (http://www.inta.org/policy/mstb.html) or the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act (UDTPA) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#dectr). The MTB provides for registration of trademarks while the UDTPA does not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? on 3/5/06 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehehehe, Is it true that recerts have to bow before the Rajas? What if you refused to bow before them? I think I might be more inclined to bend over and moon them myself. Wouldnt be surprised. Ive seen photos of people Namaste-ing Tony Nader, and there was a slight bow in their stance. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 3/5/06 11:08:32 A.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) Sal Actually,I did have those fantasies..when I was about 4 years old. Hehehehe, Is it true that recerts have to bow before the Rajas? What if you refused to bow before them? I think I might be more inclined to bend over and moon them myself. Best not to do so in front of the Brokeback Rajas. (At least have a good basti before hand) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 11:01 AM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the UK, if one searches groups at yahoo.co.uk, only 4 groups are displayed when searching 'Transcendental Meditation':- Transcendental-Meditation-Siddhas - 21 members Independent-Transcendental-Meditation - 13 members i_TM - 5 members Anutadaka - 5 members Typing 'Fairfield Life' gives the following response: Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfield life'. Whereas, if instead one searches from here using yahoo.com, 30 groups are listed including FFL. So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com Hmm... strange, because: http://tinyurl.com/zp6up Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com Hmm... strange, because: http://tinyurl.com/zp6up But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and see if you can find an active group related the topic:- http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com Hmm... strange, because: http://tinyurl.com/zp6up But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) Transamerica? Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:37 AM, wayback71 wrote: I suspect he is making enough from selling real estate and from the donations that people make to become raja's - costs a fortune (a million dollars per person) and is simple and not time consuming to have a raja course. I know that MMY has been told by many teachers and higher ups in the TMO, over the last few years, that more people would learn TM if the price were reduced, and that the TMO would make more money if the price were reduced. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 12:03 PM, cardemaister at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So maybe that's how so many non-US people find us. They know they'll get a limited selection unless they use groups.yahoo.com Hmm... strange, because: http://tinyurl.com/zp6up But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page? You may want to look for yourself. http://uk.yahoo.com/world.html And fairfieldlife nor fairfield life brings no results when searching under UK groups. Yahoo! Groups UK Search Results Sorry, no matches were found for 'fairfieldlife'. http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/search?query=fairfieldlifess=1 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, hgiammarco HEYPHILA@ wrote: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help? MMY decided to target the elite since they are the most influential members of society and most likely to be able to donate large sums of money if they are so inclined. And as a result of this focus, the number of people learning TM has plunged to near-zero worldwide, indicating that what Maharishi seems to be most interested in is money, and *not* in helping people by teaching them a valuable technique of meditation. An interesting test case seems to be about to take place in the Florida courts, in which the organization that claims it wants to spread TM to as many people as possible is suing a TM teacher who is teaching TM for the price he's always taught it. He has not only refused to raise his prices because the TM organization demands that he do so, he has refused to pay that organization several thousand dollars to be recertified at teaching something he was fully certified to teach years ago. It should be interesting to see how the TM organization defends its position in court. The fascinating exchange in that case, in my opinion, is going to be when the fellow's lawyer asks the official, recertified teachers, under oath, how many people have been instructed in TM *in the entire world* in the last year at the official price, and that number turns out to be less than the number of people that the teacher they are suing has taught in one small town in Florida during the same period. The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. Shop around...you'll find that there are people out there who still care more about helping people by teaching them a useful technique of meditation for free or at a reason- able price than they care about making money. But you won't find them in the TM movement. Although I disagree with you on virtually everything you say in the last paragraph, I do agree with you that the bottom line as far as the court case goes is the issue of brand name. An organisation -- for-profit or not for-profit -- must be secure in knowing that their product or service -- no matter how bad that product or service is or has become or how cheap or expensive it is or has become -- can be distinguished by consumers in the marketplace from other products or service offered. That's what the case is all about; nothing more, nothing less. What I will find of interest in the case is to what DEGREE the defendent will be allowed to use TM, Transcendental Meditation, Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, as taught by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in his advertising and literature. If I were one of those independent teachers, I would formulate my advertising as follows: WHAT'S BETTER: TM OR TM-INDEPENDENT? TM: $2,500 TM-INDEPENDENT: $300 ...and then, at the bottom of the ad, put in MMY's own words: Maharishi: What I have taught, because it has it's eternal authenticity in the vedic literature and you should know that, how many? 30 - 40 thousand teachers of TM I have trained and many of them have gone on their own and they may not call it Maharishi's TM but they are teaching it in some different name here and there. So there's a lot of these, artificial things are going on, doesn't matter, as long as the man is getting something useful to make his life better, we are satisfied. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! ...but the trademark holder has the right to protect his trademark. Consumers in the marketplace must be able to distinguish between products in the marketplace...even if the products offered by different sellers are virtually identical. Sugar sold by Domino Sugar is 100% the same as sugar sold by ABC Sugar...but ABC sugar isn't allowed to label their boxes Domino Sugar. If that's all that this case is about, then Scozarri has lost before it starts. But I don't think that's all there is to it because I don't think that Scozarri would have been stupid enough to have claimed to be representing the TMO and MMY and selling the TM technique as a TM teacher within the TMO (I can't say one way or the other with certainty because I don't know enough of the facts). I would guess that the issue is or will be to what extent Scozarri will be able to invoke his credentials as a TM teacher as taught by MMY, to what extent he can claim his product is similar to TM and how much of the trademarks he can use/incorporate into his advertising and product name. But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: Someone sent me the following: This is serious. He needs a legal defense fund. Does he have a case to argue? He is using a trademarked name against the wishes of the trademark holder. And depending what agreements he signed at his TTC or beyond, he may be violating a contract. And he needs all the 'dirt' on the movement that we can discover. And people willing to be witnesses, etc. Why would dirt on the TMO be relevant in trial to determine if Mike is breaking trademark law? If the TMO broke other laws, they would need to be tried for that. Is the poster suggesting sexie-sadie files or ru dissatisfaction with fund raising will make a jury go oh dear, then their trademark is no good.? If he loses this, then there will be legal precedent Where is there precedent? Is an appeals court hearing the case already -- interpreting new unsettled issues in trademerk and contract law? and they will go after
[FairfieldLife] Re: Doin' the Advaita Shuffle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You conceptually owe me twenty bucks. I'm waiting Hey, no fair, I *definitely* conceptually paid you that twenty, with another conceptual ten in interest... nO, MY CONCEPTS TELL ME THAT WAS A DELUSION. well...delusionally, *you* owe *me* twenty bucks...no, make that twenty thousand...francs...on Mars...c'mon, pay up! 10,000,000 Swiss Francs transferred to your account as we speak! Awesome! I'm imagining feeling richer already! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] If the Florida courts decide as most courts in the US these days do -- in favor of the corporation instead of the buying public -- that will mean that the use of the trademark will be upheld. [snip] How curious for you to say that, Barry. I would think that the buying public is more protected by the upholding of trademark law. When you go into the marketplace and buy your favourite product or service, are you not secure in the knowledge that the price and quality of the product or service is maintained because you are buying what you assume to be the same product or service as you have in the past? If everyone can label the softdrink that they sell Coke then how do you get the Real Thing? If I can get into YOUR field of endeavor (consulting, I think it is?) and am free to advertise my wares as Consulting by Barry Wright, can I not unfairly cash in on the goodwill that you, Barry Wright, have built up over the years through your own hard work? Shouldn't YOUR satisfied customers have the right to continue to receive true Barry-Wright-created product instead of inferior product from someone else using the Barry Wright moniker? Trademarks protect both buyer and seller. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Repost: raaja-yoga?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@ wrote: I think raaja-yoga might (also?) mean that it's meant primarily for /raaja-s/! Is there also a rani-yoga? An also-rani-yoga for second-rate yoginnis? Then there is rant-yoga. Several high adepts are in this group. Especially You! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's it in a nutshell. There was an agreement that a TM teacher was one for life and could teach TM, no conditions attached. With the exception of maybe the first 40 or 50 TM teachers taught in the early '60s, I've never, EVER heard of a TM teacher that was told when MMY made him a teacher that he could teach TM no conditions attached. When exactly did this happen? What people should really consider doing is *everyone* who can start teaching again, and letting the TMO know. They can't go after everybody. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 7:22 AM, tmforlife108 wrote: If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Was that a typo Indegerd? What is domene with transcendentalmeditation? What is domene? Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) But if they don't, the decision will reflect badly on the TMO, not on the teachers who continue to teach BubbaMed or whatever they choose to call what they teach. The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, they'll know where to go if they want to learn a technique of meditation that is still priced to appeal to someone who isn't rich. Let the elitists appeal to the elitists they want to recruit into their cult. If you feel the call to teach, you can find a way to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 tmforlife108@ wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our friends. They are demons playing the destructive role that demons always play. Everyone on the planet has to battle against demons of various kinds, whether in the form of family members or bosses or government authorities, criminals, terrorists, etc. etc. Can you imagine the karma associated with actively attempting to stop people from becoming enlightened, and to stop people from having their suffering alleviated? From: a_non_moose_ff Subject: Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. I must respectfully disagree with you there. I personally tried a few different technicques before learning TM, which is the only one which enabled me to unequivocally transcend, easily and on a regular basis. As to the side effects, I think you'd find that for any technique where transcendence is as regular as with TM. The theory espoused about the practice, that it unwinds stresses in the body, rings true for me during the time I've done the technique. For some I would guess, those stresses are deep enough that they don't release very easily. Probably a pretty common event for anyone doing spiritual practice for enough years. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip +++ If the case is in a Florida court, the outcome would likely be unpredictable due to the many possible influences there. Recall the vote counting situation some years back when the president was appointed. Last year, a court there handed down a decision that sentenced a person to death by starvation and dehydration. And, if the LR Hubbard people get involved, it will go their way as they run part of Florida. Now, this last comment really sparked my interest. Pray tell, what's that all about? With all the various agendas there, it should be interesting. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip Do we even know if the case is being pursued under federal or state trademark law? Trademarks are under federal jurisdiction. I would assume the TMO is using the federal law so i) they can argue essentially the same case in any state, and ii) if appealled they might gain some useful precidents that can be used across the nation. If the case is is federal courts, then the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies without question. In contrast to a Florida court, where the right to a jury trial probably applies -- though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Trademark Under the Lanham Act, a seller applies to register a trademark with the Patent and Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/). The mark can already be in use or be one that will be used in the future. See § 1051 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1115.html) of the Act. The Office's regulations pertaining to trademarks are found in Parts 1 - 7 of Title 37 of the Code of Federal Regulations. If the trademark is initially, approved by an examiner, it is published in the Official Gazette of the Trademark Office to notify other parties of the pending approval so that it may be opposed. See §§ 1062 - 1063 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1062.html) An appeals process is available for rejected applications. See §§ 1070 - 1071 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1070.html) Under state common law, trademarks are protected as part of the law of unfair competition. Registration is not required. See Unfair Competition. States' statutory provisions on trademarks differ but most have adopted a version of the Model Trademark Bill (MTB) (http://www.inta.org/policy/mstb.html) or the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act (UDTPA) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#dectr). The MTB provides for registration of trademarks while the UDTPA does not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
What conditions were attached? Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: With the exception of maybe the first 40 or 50 TM teachers taught in the early '60s, I've never, EVER heard of a TM teacher that was told when MMY made him a teacher that he could teach TM no conditions attached.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What conditions were attached? For one, teaching under the auspices of the particular TMO name that is cited in the written contract that most teachers that were ever made teachers by MMY signed, and to not deviate from those teachings... Are you a teacher of TM? If so, when you were made a teacher, do you not remember signing a document? I do... Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: With the exception of maybe the first 40 or 50 TM teachers taught in the early '60s, I've never, EVER heard of a TM teacher that was told when MMY made him a teacher that he could teach TM no conditions attached. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Take a break from all the TM talk and let's ponder some really important news...
His brother admits Jacko's 'thing for young children' BY MICHELLE CARUSO DAILY NEWS WEST COAST BUREAU CHIEF LOS ANGELES - Jermaine Jackson feared his kid brother Michael might be guilty of child molestation, but backed him at trial because he thought the pop star would commit suicide in prison, according to a bombshell book proposal obtained by the Daily News. In a tell-all outline shopped to publishers just weeks after Michael's arrest in November 2003, Jermaine described the Pop King as a sometimes out-of-control drug and booze abuser with a calculating mean streak and a thing for young children. The eight-page proposal for Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst, lists Michael Jackson's preferred substances as Vicodin, Demerol, codeine, Percocet, cocaine, Jack Daniels and wine. Does he really know what he does with these kids? Jermaine wondered. I don't want to tell you my brother's innocent. I am not certain that he is, Jermaine said in the tome-teaser drafted by author Stacy Brown, who co-authored Michael Jackson: The Man Behind the Mask with the singer's former publicist, Bob Jones. But Jermaine's still-unpublished tale is the ultimate insider look at the troubled star. He admits that the family has protected Jacko's image and says that Jackson also cheats, lies and even changed the color of his skin. Even the pop star's behavior with his own nephews has left his family shaken, according to Jermaine. He recounts the family coming together after the death of brother Tito's ex-wife in the mid 1990s and finding Michael sitting on a bed with Tito's young sons and holding them in a disturbing manner. Jermaine also dished about the singer's bizarre behavior shortly before he surrendered to authorities to face charges in November 2003. Holed up in a Las Vegas hotel room, Michael calmly watched a Pinocchio DVD with his three children in his lap, but he later flew into a rage, trashing the room and breaking every glass, lamp and dish in it. The protective big brother vowed to help Michael beat the rap because Michael couldn't survive one day in prison ... He'd commit suicide. Other bombshell teasers in Jermaine's outline include: That during the Jackson 5 days, Michael's brothers feared he was gay. The brothers met lots of women while touring and all eventually fell in love. But Michael, well, he wasn't interested. We used to quietly say that we couldn't have a gay brother. Michael hates Jews because he thinks Hollywood moguls Steven Spielberg, Jeffrey Katzenberg and David Geffen stole the idea for Dreamworks studio, including the boy-on-the moon logo, from him. But the Jews are the powerful ones and they have done a lot to put my brother in his place ... just another n-. That a devious and calculating Michael squashed his brothers' solo musical careers. But the family stood behind Michael despite pain, doubts and misgivings, unwilling to give up on our little brother. Originally published on March 5, 2006 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Year of Good Darshan
I haven't posted for awhile... I saw Amma for the first time last Sept '05 in San Ramon, CA. It was interesting. Sitting in the hall where she held bhajans, satsang and hugs. With closed eyes I felt waves of something spiritual-energy, constantly emanating form her without break. I got 2 hugs, the absolute seemed to be right there in meditations for a few days afterwards. I only went for the one day, she comes back in June, I plan to attend all available days next time. By the way, Rick is she coming to usa in Apr? http://amma.org/ On Shiva Ratri night Feb 26 a few days ago I saw Swami Nithyananda in Arcadia (next to Los Angeles) perform a puja for the occaision. He explained that on Shiva Ratri night (of the new moon) that a clairivoyant (quaint choice of words) energy bathes the earth that whatever you experience at this time makes a deep impression on the psyche, hence it is profitable to be engaged in a spiritual program at this time. His biography is interesting. He grew up around Ramana Maharshi's Arunchala hill. Here's a link: http://www.dhyanapeetam.org/Childhood.asp I got on the reservation list for Mother Meera's USA tour for August, so I'll look forward to having her darshan. http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/dir/DirE.html And then Karunamayi is coming in April. http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html So if all goes well I can have the darshan of 4 saints this year Holy company is compared to placing a smoldering log next to a fiercely burning log, the one ignites the other Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Was that a typo Indegerd? What is domene with transcendentalmeditation? What is domene? I do not know in English - domain maybe? It means that I bought a place in Internet: www.transcendentalmeditation.no. I also Trademark the former name of the TMO in Norway, MIKI Norge, when I started to be threaten by the TMO. All the books edited from the TMO, is referring to MIKI Norge. Ingegerd Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) But if they don't, the decision will reflect badly on the TMO, not on the teachers who continue to teach BubbaMed or whatever they choose to call what they teach. The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, they'll know where to go if they want to learn a technique of meditation that is still priced to appeal to someone who isn't rich. Let the elitists appeal to the elitists they want to recruit into their cult. If you feel the call to teach, you can find a way to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 tmforlife108@ wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing new. Their deliberate intention is to crush us and take away our livelihood our sacred mission to help people in need. They use intimidation, they use divide conquer. They brainwash our friends turn them against us. They attempt to isolate us from our
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip +++ If the case is in a Florida court, the outcome would likely be unpredictable due to the many possible influences there. Recall the vote counting situation some years back when the president was appointed. Last year, a court there handed down a decision that sentenced a person to death by starvation and dehydration. And, if the LR Hubbard people get involved, it will go their way as they run part of Florida. Now, this last comment really sparked my interest. Pray tell, what's that all about? +++ Major scientology center there- responsible for a lot of bizarre stuff. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and see if you can find an active group related the topic:- http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What conditions were attached? Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 12:49 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: With the exception of maybe the first 40 or 50 TM teachers taught in the early '60s, I've never, EVER heard of a TM teacher that was told when MMY made him a teacher that he could teach TM no conditions attached. I got some written rules in my hand when I became a TM-Teacher, how to behave and one of the rules where - that we should not turn people away if they did not have the money. We should teach everybody who wanted to learn TM even if they could not pay. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Take a break from all the TM talk and let's ponder some really important news...
Gallo or Mogen David? Knowing that might explain everything... Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:10 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: The eight-page proposal for Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst, lists Michael Jackson's preferred substances as Vicodin, Demerol, codeine, Percocet, cocaine, Jack Daniels and wine.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Yeah, but it's so much more fun to create Rajas. I mean, don't you have fantasies of dressing up in a robe and crown and going out in public? :) Actually,I did have those fantasies..when I was about 4 years old. Cost less, at age four, didn't it. Inflation, and all that... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Sanskrit
Actually the literacy rate was pretty low in 1990 for 15 yr olds and above, but did increase 12% after the first gulf war,and sanctons, through 1998. Still, 75% is modest compared to Europe, Americas etc. So where Barry got that Iraq was #1 in 1990 is um baffling. A lecturer from the U.N. offices in Paris. Although she could have been full of merde, for all I know. I met her in a bar, and because I was more interested in measuring her personal statistics than in questioning her social statistics, I accepted her story at face value. It is repeated here with the same face. :-) It appears Barry is, as often is the case, full of merde. Ah, yet another Castanedan 'agreement' from the universe to the olde spiritual adage, The world is as you are. :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
Hehehehe, Is it true that recerts have to bow before the Rajas? What if you refused to bow before them? I think I might be more inclined to bend over and moon them myself. Wouldn¹t be surprised. I¹ve seen photos of people ³Namaste-ing² Tony Nader, and there was a slight bow in their stance. Now Vaj...you know how you tend to negatively color anything related to the TM movement. It's possible that what you interpreted as a bow was just them moving out of the way of Bevan's stomach as it passed. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tinyurl.com/zp6up But that's a search in Yahoo itself, not the Russian equivalent of groups.yahoo.com. Or does each country which has a customized Yahoo have a customized Yahoo Groups home page? That may be the answer, Rick. It seems clear that the Yahoo search engine in these various countries does not have access to the same search database that the US Yahoo search engine has. There may be a simple way to construct a home page for FFL on each of the country-specific sites that would correct this. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Was that a typo Indegerd? What is domene with transcendentalmeditation? What is domene? I do not know in English - domain maybe? It means that I bought a place in Internet: www.transcendentalmeditation.no. I also Trademark the former name of the TMO in Norway, MIKI Norge, when I started to be threaten by the TMO. All the books edited from the TMO, is referring to MIKI Norge. Ingegerd +++ If I could do as well with a second language,I would be quite pleased. You should be proud of yourself as even growing up with English, I would say it must be one of the more difficult ones to learn. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Year of Good Darshan
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Hutchinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't posted for awhile... I saw Amma for the first time last Sept '05 in San Ramon, CA. It was interesting. Sitting in the hall where she held bhajans, satsang and hugs. With closed eyes I felt waves of something spiritual-energy, constantly emanating form her without break. I got 2 hugs, the absolute seemed to be right there in meditations for a few days afterwards. I only went for the one day, she comes back in June, I plan to attend all available days next time. By the way, Rick is she coming to usa in Apr? http://amma.org/ On Shiva Ratri night Feb 26 a few days ago I saw Swami Nithyananda in Arcadia (next to Los Angeles) perform a puja for the occaision. He explained that on Shiva Ratri night (of the new moon) that a clairivoyant (quaint choice of words) energy bathes the earth that whatever you experience at this time makes a deep impression on the psyche, hence it is profitable to be engaged in a spiritual program at this time. His biography is interesting. He grew up around Ramana Maharshi's Arunchala hill. Here's a link: http://www.dhyanapeetam.org/Childhood.asp I got on the reservation list for Mother Meera's USA tour for August, so I'll look forward to having her darshan. http://home.arcor.de/maatrix/dir/DirE.html And then Karunamayi is coming in April. http://www.karunamayi.org/HB-Home.html So if all goes well I can have the darshan of 4 saints this year Holy company is compared to placing a smoldering log next to a fiercely burning log, the one ignites the other so why does the ignited one go back to smoldering? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and see if you can find an active group related the topic:- http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ Is the home(?)page useless, then: http://uk.yahoo.com Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I can get into YOUR field of endeavor (consulting, I think it is?) and am free to advertise my wares as Consulting by Barry Wright, can I not unfairly cash in on the goodwill that you, Barry Wright, have built up over the years through your own hard work? I give you my full permission to try. :-) The perceived value is in the nature of the product and whether it pays off for the paying client, not in the name. I'm suggesting that in the TMO-certified vs TMO-non- certified debate, the bottom line is exactly the same. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: snip The bottom line is that TM is just a brand name for a made-up technique of meditation that is (in my opinion as a former TM teacher) no better than any other tech- nique of meditation, less effective than many, and more likely to produce negative side effects than most. I must respectfully disagree with you there. I personally tried a few different technicques before learning TM, which is the only one which enabled me to unequivocally transcend, easily and on a regular basis. I have absolutely no problem with you making that statement, and it being completely true. I had a different experience. My statement is based on my experience. As to the side effects, I think you'd find that for any technique where transcendence is as regular as with TM. I disagree. I have personally experienced types of meditation in which FOR ME, transcendence was FAR more regular than TM ever produced, and which pro- duced no undesirable side effects at all, in me or in my many friends who were also practicing them. The theory espoused about the practice, that it unwinds stresses in the body, rings true for me during the time I've done the technique. It doesn't for me, but it's fine to disagree on this. For some I would guess, those stresses are deep enough that they don't release very easily. Probably a pretty common event for anyone doing spiritual practice for enough years. But *not* common in some traditions, traditions that employ techniques of meditation that really *do* go back centuries, as opposed to (sorry to say it, but it's right there in the forward to TM movement publi- cations) made up by Maharishi and presented as a revival of ancient knowledge. I'm really not playing better/best here. TM is *remarkably* easy to learn and in my opinion effec- tive in many cases. It's just that I really *have* experienced other forms of meditation that I found more effective personally and -- looking at the spectrum of people practicing them in my presence -- more free of undesirable side effects. If I had to guess (and a guess is all it is), I would suspect that these techniques had had more field testing over the centuries. If the TM movement was still interested in actually teaching TM, at a reasonable cost, I'd say Good for them. But I would *not* be able to say, based on my own experience, either that it was the most effective style of meditation I had ever experienced, or the most problem-free. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got some written rules in my hand when I became a TM-Teacher, how to behave and one of the rules where - that we should not turn people away if they did not have the money. We should teach everybody who wanted to learn TM even if they could not pay. Clearly off the program. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Take a break from all the TM talk and let's ponder some really important news...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gallo or Mogen David? Knowing that might explain everything... Actually, for anyone who, in one's youth, was familiar with the effects of various chemicals, his choice of poisons really *does* explain everything. This is a man in considerable pain -- psychic, emotional, and physical. How sad. On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:10 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: The eight-page proposal for Legacy: Surviving the Best and the Worst, lists Michael Jackson's preferred substances as Vicodin, Demerol, codeine, Percocet, cocaine, Jack Daniels and wine. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful, more global. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at premanandpaul@ wrote: The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and see if you can find an active group related the topic:- http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ Is the home(?)page useless, then: http://uk.yahoo.com Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 12:14 PM, Premanand Paul Mason at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Russian page is very useful, however try the following link and see if you can find an active group related the topic:- http://uk.groups.yahoo.com/ Can't. I see no setting which would enable FFL to show up in country-specific Yahoo groups. Alex or Gullible Fool to the rescue? As far as I can tell, there's nothing we can do about that. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL only in the US
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Personally, I don't use the uk home page much, though its good for checking UK news sometimes. Otherwise the .com is more useful, more global. T'would seem so, with the revelation that it doesn't distribute its Groups search engine database to all its local sites. It's an easily-correctable oversight that Google would've thought of early. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Was that a typo Indegerd? What is domene with transcendentalmeditation? What is domene? I do not know in English - domain maybe? It means that I bought a place in Internet: www.transcendentalmeditation.no. I also Trademark the former name of the TMO in Norway, MIKI Norge, when I started to be threaten by the TMO. All the books edited from the TMO, is referring to MIKI Norge. Ingegerd Thanks...yes, it appears to be domain and trademarks. Free introductory lecture on BubbaMed, the $100 meditation technique that was recently sued by the Transcendental Meditation organization because they felt it was was competing with the $2500 meditation technique they sell. Come and listen for yourself, and make an informed decision. :-) :-) :-) Basically, I still have enough residual trust in the courts of America to hope that the TMO will *lose* this case, and big-time. (*Especially* if Jim's lawyers are smart enough to show the judges photos of the Rajas in their robes and crowns.) But if they don't, the decision will reflect badly on the TMO, not on the teachers who continue to teach BubbaMed or whatever they choose to call what they teach. The public is not stupid -- when presented with an organization that sues its own for no other reason than TO MAKE MORE MONEY, they'll know where to go if they want to learn a technique of meditation that is still priced to appeal to someone who isn't rich. Let the elitists appeal to the elitists they want to recruit into their cult. If you feel the call to teach, you can find a way to do so. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tmforlife108 tmforlife108@ wrote: Regarding the dirt that one supporter of Mike Scozzari requested, I know that item is not central to Mike's defense. Mike told me he just wants everybody to be able to teach TM openly without fear and threats from the so called trademark holder. If someone gets a masters in education, pays for their education themselves, the university has no right to try and take the degree back 30 years later! But to the post from someone (below) who wrote that there would not be precedent, I think you are way off. Don't be naive - winning this will be winning it for everybody and we can end this for good. I'm guessing this was written by an attny, possibly with the TMO as he must realize it will set precedent. He is just trying to sidestep that issue, which for supporters that are TM teachers would be the most important issue. If they win, the TMO could serve the papers on other independent teachers using the TM trademark - and THEY WILL- precedent has power! What independent teacher would risk it if the TMO wins the case in Florida? The trademark holder in this case has a long history of misusing that trademark. Do we need to go over this again? A judge knows that threats against the trademark not acted on by the TMO do not amount to defending the trademark. If you know someone is misusing the trademark and has done so for years, threatening them with phone calls is not defending the trademark, it's harassment. The courts will have this information as it unravels. If TM is going to continue to be available I agree - it will be thanks to the independents. They just need to see the importance of this case in Florida and help with the defense. Who can honestly say that the TMO is headed in the right direction? Daniel Jeffers One friend who has a spiritual take wrote this The Bastards are abusing us, the legitimate teachers of M's knowledge, As they have for the Past 25 Years. This is nothing
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
That's a myth. They are all about equal difficulty as far as learning goes, or else kids born in the languages that are supposed to be easier would start speaking at earlier ages, which of course they don't. (Of course, the elitist response to that would be that they just have dumber kids in those countries.) Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Nelson wrote: You should be proud of yourself as even growing up with English, I would say it must be one of the more difficult ones to learn.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ingegerd marwincornyarmand@ wrote: Hey Turquioise - what a great idea! I do it in another way. Saying in my Advertisements that I teach techniques in Stress Release and that I have been a Teacher in Transcendental Meditation since 1975. No one can stop me from telling a big part of my life. But in Norway it is easier, because The TMO has been denied to trademark Transcendental Meditation and I have bought a domene with transcendentalmeditation. But if Mike lose, it is a lot of ways to tell people what you are teaching. You gave me some creative ideas here. Ingegerd Was that a typo Indegerd? What is domene with transcendentalmeditation? What is domene? I do not know in English - domain maybe? It means that I bought a place in Internet: www.transcendentalmeditation.no. I also Trademark the former name of the TMO in Norway, MIKI Norge, when I started to be threaten by the TMO. All the books edited from the TMO, is referring to MIKI Norge. Ingegerd +++ If I could do as well with a second language,I would be quite pleased. You should be proud of yourself as even growing up with English, I would say it must be one of the more difficult ones to learn. N. Thank You. I am still learning - it helps a lot to follow in FFL. Ingegerd Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Power of Thought
from James Brahas book Living Reality about Sailor Bobs visit to the US pages 291 and 292. Bob was a Nisargadatta guy who was a former merchant marine. When he joined AA there were many bobs so he became sailor bob. You can find him at www.nonduality.com Bob: What you are doing now is what everone does. You are looking for the answer in the mind. You are trying to work everything out. But look at it another eway. You are seeing right now? Does your eye say, I see? You are hearing now. DOes your ear say, I hear? Rita: No Bob: You are tranlating the seeing with a thought I see and you tranlate the hearing with a thought I hear. Now ask yourself: Does the thought I See actually do the seeing? Rita: No BoB: Is the thought I am aware the awareness? Rita: No Bob: Is the thought I Choose the choicemaker? Rita: No Bob: What I am pointing out is that the thought has no power. When you are trying to work out what to do and what not to do, realize that choices will be made and activities will happen. You are being lived, and it's been that way since you were a child. Allow thoughts to do what they're supposed to do--just translate. The mind can be used properly. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why does T/M cost so much to join? A little help?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 3/5/06 11:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hehehehe, Is it true that recerts have to bow before the Rajas? What if you refused to bow before them? I think I might be more inclined to bend over and moon them myself. Wouldn¹t be surprised. I¹ve seen photos of people ³Namaste-ing² Tony Nader, and there was a slight bow in their stance. That's pretty standard with Namaste, isn't it? And Namaste is about as egalitarian a salutation as there is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a myth. They are all about equal difficulty as far as learning goes, or else kids born in the languages that are supposed to be easier would start speaking at earlier ages, which of course they don't. (Of course, the elitist response to that would be that they just have dumber kids in those countries.) I don't think it's a matter of dumb and dumber; some languages really are harder for a non-native speaker to learn because they are less internally consistent in terms of grammar and syntax and usage. According to many people I've met who, late in life, became multilingual in many languages, English was one of the toughest to master. On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Nelson wrote: You should be proud of yourself as even growing up with English, I would say it must be one of the more difficult ones to learn. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
And I've heard the same about a dozen other languages too, including French, Spanish, German, etc. Ethnocentricity, Barry. Because *we* speak it, it msut be the hardest to learn. (Psst--lots of others pretty much feel the same way.) It helps when learning a language, if you grew up in one or already learned one that was similar. Then the others in that group most likely would be easier. Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 2:38 PM, TurquoiseB wrote: I don't think it's a matter of dumb and dumber; some languages really are harder for a non-native speaker to learn because they are less internally consistent in terms of grammar and syntax and usage. According to many people I've met who, late in life, became multilingual in many languages, English was one of the toughest to master.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: If I can get into YOUR field of endeavor (consulting, I think it is?) and am free to advertise my wares as Consulting by Barry Wright, can I not unfairly cash in on the goodwill that you, Barry Wright, have built up over the years through your own hard work? I give you my full permission to try. :-) The perceived value is in the nature of the product and whether it pays off for the paying client, not in the name. I'm suggesting that in the TMO-certified vs TMO-non- certified debate, the bottom line is exactly the same. I may feel about it that way and YOU may feel about it that way but the TMO may not and they have every right to demand that their product be differentiated in the marketplace. That *is* what the expected reaction of a merchant would be. And, by the way, I've just registered www.consultingbybarrywright.com . Thanks. Cool. That and a buck fifty will get you a cuppa java at Starbucks. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I've heard the same about a dozen other languages too, including French, Spanish, German, etc. Ethnocentricity, Barry. Because *we* speak it, it msut be the hardest to learn. (Psst--lots of others pretty much feel the same way.) Hey, I'm still struggling with French, and French is *much* more internally consistent (and thus easier to learn) than is English. English is all over the map; at least French *mainly* makes sense. Except for the gender of nouns thang, that is. It helps when learning a language, if you grew up in one or already learned one that was similar. Then the others in that group most likely would be easier. Good luck learning Basque. It doesn't *have* a group. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff no_reply@ wrote: Has mike waived his right to a jury trial? It may not be up to him. Many states reserve the right to try non-criminal civil cases before a single judge or a panel of judges. Just curious. What states are those? Is Florida?among them. If so does the exclusion of civil case jury trials apply to trademark cases? In civil cases in state court, the right to a jury trial is governed by the state's constitution and statutes. The Supreme Court has repeatedly held that the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies only to federal courts, not to state courts. As a practical matter, though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases above the level of small claims court. snip Do we even know if the case is being pursued under federal or state trademark law? Trademarks are under federal jurisdiction. No, read the link below -- thats why I looked it up and posted it. There are federal and thre are state statues. Under state common law, trademarks are protected as part of the law of unfair competition. ... States' statutory provisions on trademarks differ but most have adopted a version of the Model Trademark Bill (MTB) I would assume the TMO is using the federal law so i) they can argue essentially the same case in any state, and ii) if appealled they might gain some useful precidents that can be used across the nation. If the case is is federal courts, then the Seventh Amendment right to a jury trial applies without question. In contrast to a Florida court, where the right to a jury trial probably applies -- though, most states make jury trials widely available for many kinds of civil cases http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/index.php/Trademark Under the Lanham Act, a seller applies to register a trademark with the Patent and Trademark Office (http://www.uspto.gov/). The mark can already be in use or be one that will be used in the future. See § 1051 (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1115.html) of the Act. The Office's regulations pertaining to trademarks are found in Parts 1 - 7 of Title 37 of the Code of Federal Regulations. If the trademark is initially, approved by an examiner, it is published in the Official Gazette of the Trademark Office to notify other parties of the pending approval so that it may be opposed. See §§ 1062 - 1063 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1062.html) An appeals process is available for rejected applications. See §§ 1070 - 1071 of the Act. (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/15/1070.html) Under state common law, trademarks are protected as part of the law of unfair competition. Registration is not required. See Unfair Competition. States' statutory provisions on trademarks differ but most have adopted a version of the Model Trademark Bill (MTB) (http://www.inta.org/policy/mstb.html) or the Uniform Deceptive Trade Practices Act (UDTPA) (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uniform/vol7.html#dectr). The MTB provides for registration of trademarks while the UDTPA does not. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's a myth. They are all about equal difficulty as far as learning goes, or else kids born in the languages that are supposed to be easier would start speaking at earlier ages, which of course they don't. (Of course, the elitist response to that would be that they just have dumber kids in those countries.) Sal On Mar 5, 2006, at 1:55 PM, Nelson wrote: You should be proud of yourself as even growing up with English, I would say it must be one of the more difficult ones to learn. Wouldn't learning a second language as an adult be more difficult with already having one to trip over? I never noticed English being difficult but I would think that looking at it from the outside, it would be a challenge. I would not like to have to learn Russian or Chineese for example. N. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Year of Good Darshan
on 3/5/06 1:13 PM, Mike Hutchinson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't posted for awhile... I saw Amma for the first time last Sept '05 in San Ramon, CA. It was interesting. Sitting in the hall where she held bhajans, satsang and hugs. With closed eyes I felt waves of something spiritual-energy, constantly emanating form her without break. I got 2 hugs, the absolute seemed to be right there in meditations for a few days afterwards. I only went for the one day, she comes back in June, I plan to attend all available days next time. By the way, Rick is she coming to usa in Apr? http://amma.org/ No, she won't be here until June. I don't know exact dates, except for Fairfield (July 8-9), but the tour schedule is as follows: Seattle, San Ramon, Los Angeles, Santa Fe, Dallas, Chicago, Fairfield, New York, Washington, Boston, Toronto Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, read the link below -- thats why I looked it up and posted it. There are federal and thre are state statues. Under state common law, trademarks are protected as part of the law of unfair competition. ... States' statutory provisions on trademarks differ but most have adopted a version of the Model Trademark Bill (MTB) That may actually be a reason why the TMO has decided to go ahead with this case in the state of Florida. I'm no lawyer, but it's possible that Florida has a stronger history of finding for the trademark holder than other states do. That would make it a sound choice of venue for a TM lawyer. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mike Scozarri being sued
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wouldn't learning a second language as an adult be more difficult with already having one to trip over? I never noticed English being difficult but I would think that looking at it from the outside, it would be a challenge. I would not like to have to learn Russian or Chineese for example. N. Based on my experience, Russian is probably a far easier language to learn than English. Talk about consistent...once you've learned the alphabet (which is just Greek with a few extra letters) and the basic verb endings and inflected noun endings, it's pretty much a snap. Or was. It was a long time ago that I studied Russian. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
