Re: [Finale] rehearsal letters not showing
Good advice. Thanks. At 10:57 -0500 13/11/11, Raymond Horton wrote: >Or simply check "top staff" for parts, then you won't have to concern >yourself with it again. >On Nov 13, 2011 7:26 AM, "Haroldo Mauro Jr" wrote: > >> Of course! The new instruments had to be added to the score list. Thank >> you! >> Harold >> >> >> >> At 12:18 +0100 13/11/11, Jari Williamsson wrote: >> >On 2011-11-13 10:40, Haroldo Mauro Jr wrote: >> >> On a finished score, I added two new parts: flute and tenor sax. >> >> The linked parts created for these instruments do not show >> >> rehearsal letters, as all the others do. I tried "unlink" and >> >> then "relink" to parts one of the letters (text expression) >> >> in the score. No use. Any suggestions? Thank you. >> > >> >Double-check the score list for the category that the rehearsal marks >> >are connected to. >> > >> > >> >Best regards, >> > >> >Jari Williamsson >> > >> >___ >> >Finale mailing list >> >Finale@shsu.edu >> >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] rehearsal letters not showing
Of course! The new instruments had to be added to the score list. Thank you! Harold At 12:18 +0100 13/11/11, Jari Williamsson wrote: >On 2011-11-13 10:40, Haroldo Mauro Jr wrote: >> On a finished score, I added two new parts: flute and tenor sax. >> The linked parts created for these instruments do not show >> rehearsal letters, as all the others do. I tried "unlink" and >> then "relink" to parts one of the letters (text expression) >> in the score. No use. Any suggestions? Thank you. > >Double-check the score list for the category that the rehearsal marks >are connected to. > > >Best regards, > >Jari Williamsson > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] rehearsal letters not showing
On a finished score, I added two new parts: flute and tenor sax. The linked parts created for these instruments do not show rehearsal letters, as all the others do. I tried "unlink" and then "relink" to parts one of the letters (text expression) in the score. No use. Any suggestions? Thank you. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Transposing chords in percussion part.
Great! Thank you. At 16:46 -0400 26/09/11, Christopher Smith wrote: >You can transpose the chords independently, using the Selection Tool, >Utilities menu>Change>Chords... > >Christopher > > >On Mon Sep 26, at MondaySep 26 4:26 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr wrote: > >> The percussion player asked me to write the chord changes on her part. OK, I >> thought that would be very easy to do. I opened the score, copied all chord >> changes from the bass part and pasted into the percussion part. Every thing >> looked good at first but later I realized the chords in the percussion part >> were not transposed from rehearsal letter "F" on, when the song is repeated >> half a step above. Is it possible to have that done automatically, so I >> don't need to write all the chords again? >> >> Harold > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Transposing chords in percussion part.
The percussion player asked me to write the chord changes on her part. OK, I thought that would be very easy to do. I opened the score, copied all chord changes from the bass part and pasted into the percussion part. Every thing looked good at first but later I realized the chords in the percussion part were not transposed from rehearsal letter "F" on, when the song is repeated half a step above. Is it possible to have that done automatically, so I don't need to write all the chords again? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] can't undo
I had no problems with undo, but have lost the ability to do other things which became functional only after restarting Finale. Among these are: not being able to get to the chord editing window and using Staff Styles metatools. The problem desappeared after quitting and restarting. Harold At 22:48 -0700 25/09/11, Ryan wrote: >Finale 2010. Mac OS 10.5.8 > >It seems temporarily lost the ability to Undo. I never changed anything, and >in the Program Options - Edit menu, Allow Undo was checked long with Allow >Undo Past Save and Maximum Undo Levels is set to zero (unlimited). The menu >item was grayed-out, and the computer didn't respond to the keyboard >short-cut (command Z). >The problem disappeared after quitting and restarting Finale. But, I'm >worried that this situation occurred in the first place. Has anyone else >experienced this problem? >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] disaster! Help!
At 15:21 -0400 22/09/11, Katherine Hoover wrote: >Dear finalelist, > > I'm so disgusted... finally updated from finale 2004 to 2011. >(Mac). and have spent some really frustrating hours. First of all >last night Finale couldn't find my registration, gave me a hard >time, then simply switched it on. It then overrid (?) some 2004 >materials and printed something without my pressing print. I'm >hoping that will correct itself with a restart now that it accepted >my registration. > > 1. The fancy little circles in Speedy are very hard on my eyes. I >remember changing them a couple of years ago for a student but I >can't find alternatives anywhere. You can change that in the Preferences under "Finale 2011" menu: Finale 2011>Preferences>Program Options>Palettes and Backgrounds Choose "Traditional" That's what I use also. I don't like those circles. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Disappearing hyphens
At 9:25 -0400 10/09/11, Michael L Meyer wrote: >On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> This is Finale 2011 for Mac. All hyphens have vanished from the lyrics on my >> score and soprano part. They are still there, in the lyrics window, but not >> in the music, where spaces were substituted for them. They don't print >> either. What is that? It is amazing how many hours I have spent on Finale >> trying to figure out what is going on. Things just don't behave as expected. >> Trying to synchronize expression and repeat texts between score and parts is >> so time consuming that I just print parts without them and add them by >> pencil later. That's a lot faster. Has this happen with anyone before, I >> mean the vanishing hyphens? Thanks. > >Hi Haroldo -- > >This sort of thing has happened to me before, though I don't remember if it >was all hyphens or just specific ones. Usually when it happens to me it's an >issue with the "minimum space" setting for Smart Hyphens in the Lyrics >preferences. The default, I think, is 144 (I work in EVPUs), but if I set it >to a very small number, the missing hyphens reappear. > >Hope this helps! > >-- Mike Thanks. I have not changed the minimum space setting . Updating smart hyphens fixed it. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Disappearing hyphens
Thank you. Updating smart hyphens fixed it, but why are they called "smart" got me! At 8:39 -0500 10/09/11, Robert Patterson wrote: >The first thing to try is Update Smart Word Extensions and Hyphens (in the >Utilities menu). This usually solves the problem. However, be aware that >Finale (or at least Fin08, which is what I use) has a bug that the hyphens >and word extensions only appear correctly on one linked part at a time. So >you have to re-run Update Smart Word Extensions and Hyphens each time you >print a part. > >On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Michael L Meyer wrote: > >> On Sep 10, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >> > This is Finale 2011 for Mac. All hyphens have vanished from the lyrics on >> my score and soprano part. They are still there, in the lyrics window, but >> not in the music, where spaces were substituted for them. They don't print >> either. What is that? It is amazing how many hours I have spent on Finale >> trying to figure out what is going on. Things just don't behave as expected. >> Trying to synchronize expression and repeat texts between score and parts is >> so time consuming that I just print parts without them and add them by >> pencil later. That's a lot faster. Has this happen with anyone before, I >> mean the vanishing hyphens? Thanks. >> >> Hi Haroldo -- >> >> This sort of thing has happened to me before, though I don't remember if it >> was all hyphens or just specific ones. Usually when it happens to me it's >> an issue with the "minimum space" setting for Smart Hyphens in the Lyrics >> preferences. The default, I think, is 144 (I work in EVPUs), but if I set >> it to a very small number, the missing hyphens reappear. >> >> Hope this helps! >> >> -- Mike >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Disappearing hyphens
This is Finale 2011 for Mac. All hyphens have vanished from the lyrics on my score and soprano part. They are still there, in the lyrics window, but not in the music, where spaces were substituted for them. They don't print either. What is that? It is amazing how many hours I have spent on Finale trying to figure out what is going on. Things just don't behave as expected. Trying to synchronize expression and repeat texts between score and parts is so time consuming that I just print parts without them and add them by pencil later. That's a lot faster. Has this happen with anyone before, I mean the vanishing hyphens? Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] set velocity to zero
Thank you very much. It worked, as per your instructions. It was easy to find the note to mute because it was the first one in the measure, but how do you figure out what entry is being referred by the window when there are many of them in a measure and they are referred to by entry number, as in the case in question was entry 905 or something like that? Harold At 20:33 +1000 17/06/11, Matthew Hindson Gma wrote: >I think Jari made a plugin for that. >Alternatively if on Mac go to Speedy Entry Tool, option click on the >bar containing the note, press Next until the dialog box refers to the >note you want to not play, and then click on the Playback checkbox. >(this all from memory but it's not unstraightforward.) >Matthew > >Sent from my iPhone > >On 17/06/2011, at 8:04 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. >wrote: > >> How do I get to mute just one note in playback? I did set the key >> velocity of the note I want muted to zero in the MIDI Tool window >> but the note still sounds during playback. Is there anything else I >> need to do so it will not play? >> >> Harold >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] set velocity to zero
How do I get to mute just one note in playback? I did set the key velocity of the note I want muted to zero in the MIDI Tool window but the note still sounds during playback. Is there anything else I need to do so it will not play? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] unwanted key change
Yes! That's it then. I'll keep that in mind. Thank you. Harold At 20:04 -0400 04/06/11, Christopher Smith wrote: >Looks like you accidentally put in a Bb transposition staff style. It's >metatool 4 in the Staff Tool, same as the Music Spacing metatool in the >Selection Tool. I do that all the time, and it drives me nuts. > >Sorry I didn't catch this faster, I could have saved you some trouble. Of >course clearing everything gets rid of it, but right clicking and clearing >staff styles from the staff Tool works too. > >Christopher > > >On Sat Jun 4, at SaturdayJun 4 6:19 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> In the top staff of a piano part of a score for three instruments, there is >> a key signature change from Bb minor to C minor that lasts 6 measures only. >> The change occurs only in the upper staff of the piano staff group. Other >> instruments are not affected. I have no idea why this is so and I can't >> change it back to Bb minor with the key signature tool. Does not work. The >> transposition box in the staff attributes window for the piano staff is >> unchecked. This is an old score I just picked up to work on. It was >> originally for four instruments : tenor sax, guitar, piano and bass. I >> deleted the tenor part. Since the tenor plays one key above, I wonder if >> that has anything to do with the unwanted change of key. Thanks. >> >> Harold >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] unwanted key change
Thanks. I just got rid of it a few minutes ago with the "clear all items" command even though there were no visible items in any layer. Only default rests. Harold At 0:21 +0100 05/06/11, Steve Parker wrote: >I've had a few odd things like this. >My solution is to create a new score and copy and paste over. >Steve P. > >On 4 Jun 2011, at 23:19, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> In the top staff of a piano part of a score for three instruments, there is >> a key signature change from Bb minor to C minor that lasts 6 measures only. >> The change occurs only in the upper staff of the piano staff group. Other >> instruments are not affected. I have no idea why this is so and I can't >> change it back to Bb minor with the key signature tool. Does not work. The >> transposition box in the staff attributes window for the piano staff is >> unchecked. This is an old score I just picked up to work on. It was >> originally for four instruments : tenor sax, guitar, piano and bass. I >> deleted the tenor part. Since the tenor plays one key above, I wonder if >> that has anything to do with the unwanted change of key. Thanks. >> >> Harold >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] unwanted key change
In the top staff of a piano part of a score for three instruments, there is a key signature change from Bb minor to C minor that lasts 6 measures only. The change occurs only in the upper staff of the piano staff group. Other instruments are not affected. I have no idea why this is so and I can't change it back to Bb minor with the key signature tool. Does not work. The transposition box in the staff attributes window for the piano staff is unchecked. This is an old score I just picked up to work on. It was originally for four instruments : tenor sax, guitar, piano and bass. I deleted the tenor part. Since the tenor plays one key above, I wonder if that has anything to do with the unwanted change of key. Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale history - Finale 2.0.1
I bought Finale 2.5 in January 1991 with an upgrade to 2.6.1 in the same package. Now, are you saying you bought Finale 2.0.1 in 1992 or did I get it wrong? How could that be? Harold At 23:03 +0200 01/08/10, jp.gilles wrote: >Hi >Some pictures of the Finale 2.0.1 package. >http://jipiblog.jipiz.fr/2010/08/01/histoire-de-finale-finale-2-0-1/ > >Jean-Paul Gilles >www.2mceditions.com >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] hidden notes
2008 for Mac. It's in the View menu. Thanks for reminding me of the plug ins. Harold Harold At 10:42 -0500 28/07/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr wrote: > >> Is there a way to find out whether there are hidden notes > >You don't specify your version of Finale, but since WINFin 2k, there have been >two plug-ins, "notes and rests (show)" and "notes and rests (hide)" which show >or hide notes in a region designated by the mass mover tool (and I suspect in >more recent versions, with the selection tool). > >ns > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] hidden notes
Is there a way to find out whether there are hidden notes - or rests, for that matter - in one or more of the 4 layers, without having to go through all of then in speedy entry and hitting the "O" key? Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Jazz font rehearsal letter D
I have the same problem mentioned about Word switching back to Times. It happens when using Lassus, Sicilian Numerals, Shpfltnat, etc. I don't think it's caused by duplicate fonts, because it doesn't happen in AppleWorks, but I'll check anyway. Harold At 7:21 -0400 14/06/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >Oo, I used to know this! I think it's caused by having more than one copy of a >font on your system. I think I fixed it by getting the free version of Font >Book and running Resolve Duplicates. it fixed some other problems I was >having, too. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable would weigh in? > >Christopher > > >On Sun Jun 13, at SundayJun 13 11:15 PM, Brian Williams wrote: > >>Dear Finale list, >> >>I'm having trouble getting the rehearsal letter "D" in the Jazz Text font to >>appear (the one in a box that the character map says is accessed by typing >>Option-Shift-2). Even if I try to use the Jazz Text font in Microsoft Word, >>typing Option-Shift-2 changes the font to Times New Roman and gives me a >>euro symbol. In Finale, I just get a blank space. >> >>The main problem I'm having is I have a *LOT* of files created in older >>versions that use the Jazz Text Font, and in all of them the rehearsal >>letter "D" is missing and I can't figure out how to make it show up. >> >>Does anyone have any idea how to fix this? >> >>Brian Williams >>Finale 2010b.r1 >>Macbook Pro, MacOS 10.5.8 >> >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] print forces update layout??
How about creating an extra measure at the end of the system just to place the 3/1 expression? Change the fake rest into a real one, hide it, and create a new region for measure numbers, so the numbering would continue normally. You might need to choose an invisible barline for the extra measure. Does that make sense? I didn't test it. Harold At 3:26 -0700 21/05/10, Mark D Lew wrote: >On May 21, 2010, at 2:13 AM, SN jef chippewa wrote: > >>that will surely give you way more space than you need > >Yes, I discovered that. I played with it a bit and it wasn't working. > >>what about creating an expression of a staff (5 lines, attached to all >>staves) that is something like 12 EVPUS (or whatever extra you need) and >>adjusting the system to end 12 EVPUS from the right margin? > >Hmm, that sounds promising. I'm waiting to hear from my editor on this, but I >may try that. Thanks. > >mdl >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] linked part missing measures
At 11:56 -0700 09/05/10, Michael Greensill wrote: >In finding the solution to my problem with multimeasure rests disappearing >when I used a staff style to make them blank, which nobody seemed to have a >solution for...at least nobody replied :)...I discovered that the problem >was that the "update automatically' in the multimeasure rests section of >document options needed to be unchecked. That solved my problem and it may be >related to this one. > >Mike G. > >www.mikegreensill.com > Thanks. Mine was unchecked, maybe it should be checked in this case... Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] linked part missing measures
I understand, but do you create them every time you edit the score? I'm asking because I had them previously created and in place, when one of them (only one) disappeared after some score editing. All others were in place. Harold At 13:22 -0400 09/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >I don't bother checking. I just Create multimeasure rests for parts/score and >select all. That way I know it's done. There are usually layout issues to >address in any case when I add material. If I have any fancy measure widths, I >usually have them under a keyboard shortcut, so I put them in again. > >Christopher > > >On Sun May 9, at SundayMay 9 1:16 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Good, I'll just do that then. Thanks. How would one be sure, that whenever >>one goes back to the score for editing, the already existing parts will have >>no missing measures? Do I need to check all parts over and over again every >>time I make changes to the score? >>Harold >> >> >>At 12:49 -0400 09/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >>>Just create again. Unless you have some fancy stuff in there (broken rests, >>>special widths for multimeasure rest bars), everything will just be right. >>>If you are worried about any fancy stuff you may have created, select the >>>passage in the part with the Selection Tool, then Create just for that >>>passage. Nothing else will change, then. >>> >>>Christopher >>> >>> >>> >>>On Sun May 9, at SundayMay 9 12:10 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>>At 17:55 +0200 09/05/10, dc wrote: >>>>>Haroldo Mauro Jr. écrit: >>>>>>I've generated parts from a score, adjusted them and they were fine a >>>>>>moment ago. Then I did some editing in the score. Now there are missing >>>>>>measures in two parts. Section "F" of the score has 19 measures, but only >>>>>>9 are showing in these parts. Is there anything I should do to make them >>>>>>apear on the parts, other than generate them again? >>>>> >>>>>I seem to recall you have to update the multimeasure rests. >>>>> >>>>>Dennis >>>> >>>>I can't find anything related to "update multimeasure rests" in the menus. >>>>I tried update layout, but didn't fix it. The part already has several >>>>multimeasure rest, so I guess it doesn't make sense to chose "Create >>>>multimeasure rests for part/score". There is actually one 9-bar >>>>multimeasure rest missing. >>>>Harold > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] linked part missing measures
Good, I'll just do that then. Thanks. How would one be sure, that whenever one goes back to the score for editing, the already existing parts will have no missing measures? Do I need to check all parts over and over again every time I make changes to the score? Harold At 12:49 -0400 09/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >Just create again. Unless you have some fancy stuff in there (broken rests, >special widths for multimeasure rest bars), everything will just be right. If >you are worried about any fancy stuff you may have created, select the passage >in the part with the Selection Tool, then Create just for that passage. >Nothing else will change, then. > >Christopher > > > >On Sun May 9, at SundayMay 9 12:10 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>At 17:55 +0200 09/05/10, dc wrote: >>>Haroldo Mauro Jr. écrit: >>>>I've generated parts from a score, adjusted them and they were fine a >>>>moment ago. Then I did some editing in the score. Now there are missing >>>>measures in two parts. Section "F" of the score has 19 measures, but only 9 >>>>are showing in these parts. Is there anything I should do to make them >>>>apear on the parts, other than generate them again? >>> >>>I seem to recall you have to update the multimeasure rests. >>> >>>Dennis >> >>I can't find anything related to "update multimeasure rests" in the menus. I >>tried update layout, but didn't fix it. The part already has several >>multimeasure rest, so I guess it doesn't make sense to chose "Create >>multimeasure rests for part/score". There is actually one 9-bar multimeasure >>rest missing. >>Harold >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] linked part missing measures
At 17:55 +0200 09/05/10, dc wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. écrit: >>I've generated parts from a score, adjusted them and they were fine a moment >>ago. Then I did some editing in the score. Now there are missing measures in >>two parts. Section "F" of the score has 19 measures, but only 9 are showing >>in these parts. Is there anything I should do to make them apear on the >>parts, other than generate them again? > >I seem to recall you have to update the multimeasure rests. > >Dennis I can't find anything related to "update multimeasure rests" in the menus. I tried update layout, but didn't fix it. The part already has several multimeasure rest, so I guess it doesn't make sense to chose "Create multimeasure rests for part/score". There is actually one 9-bar multimeasure rest missing. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] linked part missing measures
I've generated parts from a score, adjusted them and they were fine a moment ago. Then I did some editing in the score. Now there are missing measures in two parts. Section "F" of the score has 19 measures, but only 9 are showing in these parts. Is there anything I should do to make them apear on the parts, other than generate them again? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
At 7:56 -0500 08/05/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo, > >WRT > >>Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the >>score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. > >Sometimes I, too, go hours quitting Finale, but I rarely go more than a >quarter hour without explicitly saving my work. > >ns I too, save my work that often or more, but if the file is already corrupted, and you don't know, you'd go for hours saving corrupted back-ups. I'm quiting often now, in order to lower the chances of saving corrupted back-ups. If my file gets corrupted I'll now pretty soon, and revert to a recent back-up. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
At 8:05 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Sat May 8, at SaturdayMay 8 7:53 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>At 7:25 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >>>On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>> >>>>On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >>>> >>>>>I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. >>>> >>>>I am pretty sure this is a Finale issue and not an OS issue. I've never, >>>>ever, experienced file corruption using any other Mac OS X app. But it >>>>seems to happen on a fairly regular basis for MacFin power users. I haven't >>>>seen it myself in a few years (knock on wood) but I know others have, >>>>including several Mac users on this list. >>> >>>I see it on occasion in AppleWorks 6 as well. (Yes, I still use that old, >>>old program). I wonder if it is just a coincidence that both Finale AND >>>AppleWorks 6 are the only two apps I use that don't use the new Mac OSX >>>filenames correctly (they both stop using Apple protocols at 32 characters, >>>including the extension and period.) I would bet dollars to doughnuts that >>>Harold's filename was longer than 32 characters. >>> >>>It is because of this issue that I managed to overwrite a .mus file with an >>>audio file created from inside Finale. This is a documented bug, not >>>addressed yet by MakeMusic except to advise users to save audio in a >>>different directory than the .mus file resides, or to confine filenames to >>>28 characters or fewer, plus the .mus extension. >>> >>>Christopher >> >> >>The file name is only 6 chars plus the .mus extension. >>Harold >> > >Okay, that's one theory shot! > >I read after I commented that you use the excellent incremental filename >backup system (filename001, filename002, etc.) but as you noticed, this only >protects you as often as you use it. If you only save each day under a new >name, then you stand to lose up to a day's work. I change the filename almost >every time I save, which might be every ten or fifteen minutes, and my .bak >files and my .asv files provide additional protection. Once the project is >done, I delete most of the extra files, but they are there helping security >during the working phase. > >Christopher Well, yes, I'm doing just that. I'm up to myFile14 after a couple of hours of work! And I've quit 14 times and started again from the most recent saved copy, save as "myFile(+1)" and work on it. Later I'll trash the older ones, as you do. Thanks for replying. Haroldo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
At 7:25 -0400 08/05/10, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Fri May 7, at FridayMay 7 11:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > >>On 7 May 2010, at 11:02 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >> >>>I would hesitate to blame this directly on Finale. >> >>I am pretty sure this is a Finale issue and not an OS issue. I've never, >>ever, experienced file corruption using any other Mac OS X app. But it seems >>to happen on a fairly regular basis for MacFin power users. I haven't seen it >>myself in a few years (knock on wood) but I know others have, including >>several Mac users on this list. > >I see it on occasion in AppleWorks 6 as well. (Yes, I still use that old, old >program). I wonder if it is just a coincidence that both Finale AND AppleWorks >6 are the only two apps I use that don't use the new Mac OSX filenames >correctly (they both stop using Apple protocols at 32 characters, including >the extension and period.) I would bet dollars to doughnuts that Harold's >filename was longer than 32 characters. > >It is because of this issue that I managed to overwrite a .mus file with an >audio file created from inside Finale. This is a documented bug, not addressed >yet by MakeMusic except to advise users to save audio in a different directory >than the .mus file resides, or to confine filenames to 28 characters or fewer, >plus the .mus extension. > >Christopher The file name is only 6 chars plus the .mus extension. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
I have 2 external firewire drives and a backup software but all the back-up copies were corrupted just the same, both on my computer HD and back-up disks. Can TimeMachine be configured to do incremental back-ups every time I open a file? Harold At 20:40 -0700 07/05/10, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >You should really also invest in an external drive or something to start using >Time Machine. It has saved my butt more times than I can count. And it is >transparent... > > >On May 7, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I only had the >> original and the backup. Both got corrupted. Thanks for replying. I'm >> "saving as" with names like myFile1, myFile2, etc., as David Fenton >> suggested. >> Harold >> >> > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
Yes, I just started doing incremental back-ups, but while I'm working on the score, and sometimes I spend hours without quitting Finale. That is not as good as your method, because if the file I'm working on gets corrupted but stays open, allowing me to edit it, all the saved copies from then on would be just as corrupted, even with their different names. What I'll do then is to quit Finale more often, every twenty minutes to half an hour, and do the incremental saving at the beginning of esch session, as you do. Thanks. Harold At 22:21 -0500 07/05/10, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo: > >I don't have much to offer by way of help in recovering the hours of work you >lost, bug for future use, if you don't already, you might consider adopting >the practice of incremental back-ups. When I'm working on a large project, the >first thing I do each time I open the file, is to save the file with a new >name, and on a regular basis, but every time I leave the computer, I save the >file, re-open it, and immediately save with a new name. So, the first save may >be "myfile000.mus", the second "myfile001.mus", &c. > >This doesn't prevent problems with corrupted files, but while I've lost work >because of file corruption, and other problems, the amount of time I've lost >is on the order of minutes worth, not hours. > >ns >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
Yes, that is scary all right. Last year I lost a whole score. I only had the original and the backup. Both got corrupted. Thanks for replying. I'm "saving as" with names like myFile1, myFile2, etc., as David Fenton suggested. Harold At 22:36 -0400 07/05/10, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Hi Harold, > >The file corruption occurred while the document was open, at least 20 minutes >before you had to Force Quit. File corruption is invisible -- there is no way >to tell it has happened until you try to open files that have been saved after >the corruption has occurred. You can continue to work for quite a long time >after file corruption occurs, and from your perspective, everything seems >normal. That's what's so scary about it. > >- DJA >- >WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >On 7 May 2010, at 10:11 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> Yes, and I am aware of that, but what I don't understand is why three >> backups of the corrupted file went bad all at once. As I was working on the >> score, I had three backups, one of them was the auto saved ".asv.mus", saved >> just a few minutes before. Finale became irresponsive and I had to force >> quit. When I tried to open the file, after restart, I got the error message. >> So I double clicked first the "asv.mus" backup, which gave me the same error >> (weird...) then I tried a "saved as" from about 10 minutes before, with no >> luck, and then a backup on another disk, of about 20 minutes before. Same >> error -39 in all files. Any ideas? >> >> Haroldcopy >> >> >> At 21:06 -0400 07/05/10, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>> Guys, >>> >>> Haroldo is suffering from file corruption (error. -39). A quick search of >>> http://support.apple.com reveals the following: >>> >>> http://support.apple.com/kb/TA46648?viewlocale=en_US >>> >>>> The -39 error is an "End Of File" error. The most likely cause of the >>>> error is a corrupt data file. The only real fix is to restore the data >>>> file from a backup or recreate it if there isn't a good backup available. >>> >>> >>> No amount of disk repair is going to help. Those files are toast. He is, >>> unfortunately, SOL. >>> >>> All he can do is revert to an earlier version, which he has already done. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> - DJA >>> - >>> WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org >>> >>> On 7 May 2010, at 8:45 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >>> >>>> Repairing permissions isn't going to help >>>> >>>> Reboot, hold down APPLE and the S key and do the fsck it says to do. >>>> >>>> >>>> On May 7, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>> >>>>> At 19:08 -0400 07/05/10, dhbailey wrote: >>>>>> Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>>>> Yes, I do have a copy "saved as". I said that on my post. It gives the >>>>>>> same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the >>>>>>> ".asv" copy and the "saved as" copy. It seems as if although the file >>>>>>> was still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were made. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you rebooted your computer since that started happening? >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't know Macs at all, but I do recall reading about having Mac users >>>>>> "trash their preferences" as a solution to several different problems, >>>>>> and perhaps that might help here? Just a thought. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I did reboot, I trashed the preferences file, I repaired the permissions. >>>>> I also had a fourth back up copy on an external disk which also gives me >>>>> the same error. All together there are four copies of documents >>>>> corrupted, showing the same error (-39) and they all are zero KB. I did >>>>> back up my work, because this happened before, but it seems it is no use >>>>> backing up any way. The latest usable copy I have is one I "saved as" >>>>> yesterday , with a different name. But today's work is gone, many hours >>>>> of it. Thanks for replying. >>>>> Harold >>>>> ___ >>>>> Finale mailing list >>>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Finale mailing list >>>> Finale@shsu.edu >>>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >> >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
Yes, and I am aware of that, but what I don't understand is why three backups of the corrupted file went bad all at once. As I was working on the score, I had three backups, one of them was the auto saved ".asv.mus", saved just a few minutes before. Finale became irresponsive and I had to force quit. When I tried to open the file, after restart, I got the error message. So I double clicked first the "asv.mus" backup, which gave me the same error (weird...) then I tried a "saved as" from about 10 minutes before, with no luck, and then a backup on another disk, of about 20 minutes before. Same error -39 in all files. Any ideas? Haroldcopy At 21:06 -0400 07/05/10, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Guys, > >Haroldo is suffering from file corruption (error. -39). A quick search of >http://support.apple.com reveals the following: > >http://support.apple.com/kb/TA46648?viewlocale=en_US > >> The -39 error is an "End Of File" error. The most likely cause of the error >> is a corrupt data file. The only real fix is to restore the data file from a >> backup or recreate it if there isn't a good backup available. > > >No amount of disk repair is going to help. Those files are toast. He is, >unfortunately, SOL. > >All he can do is revert to an earlier version, which he has already done. > >Cheers, > >- DJA >- >WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > >On 7 May 2010, at 8:45 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > >> Repairing permissions isn't going to help >> >> Reboot, hold down APPLE and the S key and do the fsck it says to do. >> >> >> On May 7, 2010, at 5:03 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >>> At 19:08 -0400 07/05/10, dhbailey wrote: >>>> Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>> Yes, I do have a copy "saved as". I said that on my post. It gives the >>>>> same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the >>>>> ".asv" copy and the "saved as" copy. It seems as if although the file was >>>>> still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were made. >>>>> >>>> >>>> Have you rebooted your computer since that started happening? >>>> >>>> I don't know Macs at all, but I do recall reading about having Mac users >>>> "trash their preferences" as a solution to several different problems, and >>>> perhaps that might help here? Just a thought. >>>> >>>> -- >>> >>> >>> I did reboot, I trashed the preferences file, I repaired the permissions. I >>> also had a fourth back up copy on an external disk which also gives me the >>> same error. All together there are four copies of documents corrupted, >>> showing the same error (-39) and they all are zero KB. I did back up my >>> work, because this happened before, but it seems it is no use backing up >>> any way. The latest usable copy I have is one I "saved as" yesterday , >>> with a different name. But today's work is gone, many hours of it. Thanks >>> for replying. >>> Harold >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
Thanks, but all of this is unecessary. Won't do. The files are corrupted, period. Maybe export as XML will prevent further losses. I'll try that. Harold At 9:30 +1000 08/05/10, Graeme Gerrard wrote: >Yes. >Sounds like the files are okay (?). >Reboot, reinstall Finale, download the upgrades. Reboot. >Is you OS up to date? Which version are you running? > >Try again. You could also try exporting as MusicXML as a further backup >measure? > > > >On 08/05/2010, at 9:08 AM, dhbailey wrote: > >> Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> Yes, I do have a copy "saved as". I said that on my post. It gives the same >>> error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the ".asv" copy >>> and the "saved as" copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, >>> it was already corrupted when both copies were made. >> >> Have you rebooted your computer since that started happening? >> >> I don't know Macs at all, but I do recall reading about having Mac users >> "trash their preferences" as a solution to several different problems, and >> perhaps that might help here? Just a thought. >> >> -- >> David H. Bailey >> dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >-- >Graeme Gerrard >www.resonant.com.au >02 6494 5387 / 0414 396 754 > > > > > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
At 19:08 -0400 07/05/10, dhbailey wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>Yes, I do have a copy "saved as". I said that on my post. It gives the same >>error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the ".asv" copy >>and the "saved as" copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it >>was already corrupted when both copies were made. >> > >Have you rebooted your computer since that started happening? > >I don't know Macs at all, but I do recall reading about having Mac users >"trash their preferences" as a solution to several different problems, and >perhaps that might help here? Just a thought. > >-- I did reboot, I trashed the preferences file, I repaired the permissions. I also had a fourth back up copy on an external disk which also gives me the same error. All together there are four copies of documents corrupted, showing the same error (-39) and they all are zero KB. I did back up my work, because this happened before, but it seems it is no use backing up any way. The latest usable copy I have is one I "saved as" yesterday , with a different name. But today's work is gone, many hours of it. Thanks for replying. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Hours of work lost -
Yes, I do have a copy "saved as". I said that on my post. It gives the same error. All three files give the same error: the main file, the ".asv" copy and the "saved as" copy. It seems as if although the file was still open, it was already corrupted when both copies were made. Harold At 18:37 -0400 07/05/10, timothy price wrote: >Did you not have a "copy" of the file also? This is usually the case with >Finale. Also, I always do a save as, every time I close a file after working >on it. >That way, I will always have a file that is very recent to revert to if I lose >the present one. I may not help your present situation, but it will never >happen again >if you do this. > >tim > > > >On May 7, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>This is the third score I've lost. I spent hours of work on this one, and >>when tried to open it I got this message: >> >>"While attempting to open file [fileName] the File Manager reported an error. >>-39" >> >>Is there any way of getting it back? I have the autosave on, but the >>file.asv.mus is gone, just the same, and another copy I made with the "save >>as" command is gone too. >> >>Macbook, Finale 2009 >> >>I think this, as well as the others were originally 2008 files saved as 2009, >>erased and started anew. >> >>Any hope here? >>Thanks, >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >timothy price >timothy.pr...@valley.net > > > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Hours of work lost -
This is the third score I've lost. I spent hours of work on this one, and when tried to open it I got this message: "While attempting to open file [fileName] the File Manager reported an error. -39" Is there any way of getting it back? I have the autosave on, but the file.asv.mus is gone, just the same, and another copy I made with the "save as" command is gone too. Macbook, Finale 2009 I think this, as well as the others were originally 2008 files saved as 2009, erased and started anew. Any hope here? Thanks, Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Why doesn't Finale play the instrument I want?
At 6:36 -0400 03/05/10, dhbailey wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>In a score for flute, clarinet, guitar, piano and double bass, I set midi >>instrument flute (GM 74) to play the flute staff and midi instrument >>clarinet (GM 72)to play the clarinet. However I hear only trumpets on both >>staffs. Guitar sounds right. It is ironic that playback is set to SmartMusic >>SoftSinth! Any ideas why? This happens every once in a while, and sometimes >>it gets right sooner or later, but I have no idea of what is going on. Any >>help will be appreciated. Thank you. >>Harold > >One thing which often causes unintended results such as this is if you have >used expressions which you "created" by duplicating existing ones and then >edited so they're different. If the original expression which was duplicated >had been defined for playback and that playback definition was for a patch >change to trumpet, that might explain things. Check any expressions you might >have placed at the start of only the two staves in question. > Thank you. That was not the case, but it is good to know. I'll keep that in mind. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Why doesn't Finale play the instrument I want?
It is not he question that is stupid, but this user, who's an idiot. Of course. I've seen it happen before but didn't remember how I had it fixed. I had trumpet in the voice staff, channel 1. Flute and Clarinet were both on channel 1 too. Thank you. Now, I wonder why the midi channel can't be dinamically linked to changes in instruments. At least there should be a warning message reminding you to change the midi channel or else... I mean, who would want a new instrument, a flute, for instance, sounding as trumpet? Maybe this is a stupid question. Haroldo At 9:14 +0200 03/05/10, Marcello Noia wrote: >First stupid question is: did you check that different MIDI channels are set >for each instrument and for each layer? >Switching to default MIDI device (if you have one installed on your machine, >of course) gets the same trouble? > >Haroldo Mauro Jr. ha scritto: >>In a score for flute, clarinet, guitar, piano and double bass, I set midi >>instrument flute (GM 74) to play the flute staff and midi instrument >>clarinet (GM 72)to play the clarinet. However I hear only trumpets on both >>staffs. Guitar sounds right. It is ironic that playback is set to SmartMusic >>SoftSinth! Any ideas why? This happens every once in a while, and sometimes >>it gets right sooner or later, but I have no idea of what is going on. Any >>help will be appreciated. Thank you. >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Why doesn't Finale play the instrument I want?
In a score for flute, clarinet, guitar, piano and double bass, I set midi instrument flute (GM 74) to play the flute staff and midi instrument clarinet (GM 72)to play the clarinet. However I hear only trumpets on both staffs. Guitar sounds right. It is ironic that playback is set to SmartMusic SoftSinth! Any ideas why? This happens every once in a while, and sometimes it gets right sooner or later, but I have no idea of what is going on. Any help will be appreciated. Thank you. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT - Mr Chuck Israels who writes in this list is the same Chuck Israels that played with Bill Evans and John Coltrane?
Yes, he is "the" Chuck Israels. Haroldo At 14:56 +0200 29/03/10, Marcello Noia wrote: >Pardon my curiosity :) >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X
I did send him an email explaining what's happening. So far I've got no answer. Thanks. Harold At 17:40 + 05/02/10, wrote: >Have you tried to contact the author? > > >http://www.dafont.com/david-rakowski.d30 > > >Respectfully >Michael >- Original Message - >From: "Haroldo Mauro Jr." >To: finale@shsu.edu >Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 9:03:18 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >Subject: Re: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X > >That's the same one I have installed. Thanks. >Harold > > >At 15:13 + 05/02/10, wrote: >>I did a quick search and discovered this url for a Lassus font. >>ttp://www.fontspace.com/david-rakowski/lassus. >>Does this help? >>Respectfully, >>Michael Mathew >>mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net >>mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com >>http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Haroldo Mauro Jr." >>To: finale@shsu.edu >>Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 5:37:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >>Subject: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X >> >>I am no longer able to get some of Lassus characters on a Macbook, which I >>used to get on a G3. >> >>eg. >>opt+shift with 1, 2 or 6 would give me flat signs on a G3, OS 9. On the >>Macbook (Leopard) I get regular characters, like Î, °Ë and ©. And when I >>type any of those characters (eg. opt+shift + 2)on a Word document (haven't >>checked other text editors) the font menu changes from Lassus to the previous >>selected regular font, such as Times, Verdana, etc. >> >>Any ideas? I would think this has to do with the OS. This problem has been >>around since I switched to OS X. Is there a newer version of Lassus, or font >>similar to it, that would work with Leopard? Thanks. >> >>Harold >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X
No, and it is not intended to for score writing. Its purpose is to insert music symbols into a regular text document, as text. Harold At 14:15 -0500 05/02/10, Ray Horton wrote: >So, does this "Lassus" font have really great glissando markings, or what? > > >(Hey, a lot of trombone players on here, and one of us had to ask.) > > >Raymond Horton > > >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>That's the same one I have installed. Thanks. >>Harold >> >> >>At 15:13 + 05/02/10, wrote: >> >>>I did a quick search and discovered this url for a Lassus font. >>>ttp://www.fontspace.com/david-rakowski/lassus. >>>Does this help? >>>Respectfully, >>>Michael Mathew >>>mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net >>>mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com >>>http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>- Original Message - >>>From: "Haroldo Mauro Jr." >>>To: finale@shsu.edu >>>Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 5:37:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >>>Subject: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X >>> >>>I am no longer able to get some of Lassus characters on a Macbook, which I >>>used to get on a G3. >>> >>> >... >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X
I tried using Lassus with several text editors and found out it works fine with AppleWorks 6 and BBEdit Lite X; and the problem I described earlier occurs with Word 2004, TextEdit and TextWrangler. There is no update that I know of. Do you? Thanks. Harold At 12:16 -0500 05/02/10, Darcy James Argue wrote: >The font needs to be updated to work with OS X. > >Cheers, > >- DJA >- >WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com > >On 5 Feb 2010, at 12:03 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> That's the same one I have installed. Thanks. >> Harold >> >> >> At 15:13 + 05/02/10, wrote: >>> I did a quick search and discovered this url for a Lassus font. >>> ttp://www.fontspace.com/david-rakowski/lassus. >>> Does this help? >>> Respectfully, >>> Michael Mathew >>> mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net >>> mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com >>> http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Haroldo Mauro Jr." >>> To: finale@shsu.edu >>> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 5:37:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >>> Subject: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X >>> >>> I am no longer able to get some of Lassus characters on a Macbook, which I >>> used to get on a G3. >>> >>> eg. >>> opt+shift with 1, 2 or 6 would give me flat signs on a G3, OS 9. On the >>> Macbook (Leopard) I get regular characters, like Î, °Ë and ©. And when I >>> type any of those characters (eg. opt+shift + 2)on a Word document (haven't >>> checked other text editors) the font menu changes from Lassus to the >>> previous selected regular font, such as Times, Verdana, etc. >>> >>> Any ideas? I would think this has to do with the OS. This problem has been >>> around since I switched to OS X. Is there a newer version of Lassus, or >>> font similar to it, that would work with Leopard? Thanks. >>> >>> Harold >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X
That's the same one I have installed. Thanks. Harold At 15:13 + 05/02/10, wrote: >I did a quick search and discovered this url for a Lassus font. >ttp://www.fontspace.com/david-rakowski/lassus. >Does this help? >Respectfully, >Michael Mathew >mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net >mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com >http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl > > > > >- Original Message - >From: "Haroldo Mauro Jr." >To: finale@shsu.edu >Sent: Friday, February 5, 2010 5:37:36 AM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific >Subject: [Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X > >I am no longer able to get some of Lassus characters on a Macbook, which I >used to get on a G3. > >eg. >opt+shift with 1, 2 or 6 would give me flat signs on a G3, OS 9. On the >Macbook (Leopard) I get regular characters, like Î, °Ë and ©. And when I type >any of those characters (eg. opt+shift + 2)on a Word document (haven't checked >other text editors) the font menu changes from Lassus to the previous selected >regular font, such as Times, Verdana, etc. > >Any ideas? I would think this has to do with the OS. This problem has been >around since I switched to OS X. Is there a newer version of Lassus, or font >similar to it, that would work with Leopard? Thanks. > >Harold > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT Lassus font and Mac OS X
I am no longer able to get some of Lassus characters on a Macbook, which I used to get on a G3. eg. opt+shift with 1, 2 or 6 would give me flat signs on a G3, OS 9. On the Macbook (Leopard) I get regular characters, like , ¤ and þ. And when I type any of those characters (eg. opt+shift + 2)on a Word document (haven't checked other text editors) the font menu changes from Lassus to the previous selected regular font, such as Times, Verdana, etc. Any ideas? I would think this has to do with the OS. This problem has been around since I switched to OS X. Is there a newer version of Lassus, or font similar to it, that would work with Leopard? Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius
At 12:15 -0400 30/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 9:06 AM -0200 10/30/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >> >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>> >> >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps >> >not as fast, but not too slow. Correcting wrong accidentals might take >> >more mousing and keystrokes. But entering notes with an external keyboard >> >(left hand only, if your right is on the number pad) is by far the quickest >> >of the possible note entry possibilities in Sibelius as well. I'm not a >> >keyboardist, so I've never attempted real-time keyboard note entry. >> >> >>I didn't mean real-time note entry. That would have to be done in >>Hiperscribe, correct? >>Harold > >I'm afraid I don't know what Hyperscribe is, and it isn't in the Sib6 >Reference Manual under either spelling. > >John Sorry. It's the tool for real-time entry in Finale. It records your playing and produces the part afetr you finish. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius
At 19:59 -0400 29/10/09, John Howell wrote: >At 7:45 PM -0200 10/29/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >>To me it is inconvenient because when I use Speed Entry with an external >>keyboard, I keep my eyes on the screen and don't look at the keyboard. If I >>hit a wrong note when entering music, my ears warn me, so I can play the >>right note before it is entered. If I play the wrong note in Sibelius, the >>wrong note goes into the score, so I have to stop and fix it. That slows >>down the process. it is easier and faster to detect a wrong note and correct >>it at the keyboard than to edit the score. Could one edit a wrong note in >>Sibelius as fast and easily as moving a finger to an adjacent key in the >>keyboard? > >Up or down arrows, with one's hand already over the number keypad. Perhaps not >as fast, but not too slow. Correcting wrong accidentals might take more >mousing and keystrokes. But entering notes with an external keyboard (left >hand only, if your right is on the number pad) is by far the quickest of the >possible note entry possibilities in Sibelius as well. I'm not a keyboardist, >so I've never attempted real-time keyboard note entry. I didn't mean real-time note entry. That would have to be done in Hiperscribe, correct? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius
At 18:36 -0400 29/10/09, dhbailey wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>At 16:49 -0400 29/10/09, dhbailey wrote: >>>As a long-time Speedy Entry user in Finale, I have to say that it didn't >>>take me too long to get comfortable with Sibelius' Rhythm First, Pitch >>>Second entry mode. It's not all that difficult, and if you wish to change >>>the rhythm after having input something you don't like, it's easy to change. >>> >>I really don't see what all the fuss is, since in the compositional mode, I >>don't enter either until I've got a good idea what both pitch and rhythm >>should be and then it doesn't matter which goes in first. >> >>To me it is inconvenient because when I use Speed Entry with an external >>keyboard, I keep my eyes on the screen and don't look at the keyboard. If I >>hit a wrong note when entering music, my ears warn me, so I can play the >>right note before it is entered. If I play the wrong note in Sibelius, the >>wrong note goes into the score, so I have to stop and fix it. That slows >>down the process. it is easier and faster to detect a wrong note and correct >>it at the keyboard than to edit the score. Could one edit a wrong note in >>Sibelius as fast and easily as moving a finger to an adjacent key in the >>keyboard? >> > >Perhaps not as totally easy as moving to a different key on the keyboard, but >almost as easy -- simply move to the cursor key and push up or down before >entering the next pitch. > Yes, that's pretty easy, I agree. I suppose one could get quickly used to it. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] recent Finale versus recent Sibelius
At 16:49 -0400 29/10/09, dhbailey wrote: >> > >As a long-time Speedy Entry user in Finale, I have to say that it didn't take >me too long to get comfortable with Sibelius' Rhythm First, Pitch Second entry >mode. It's not all that difficult, and if you wish to change the rhythm after >having input something you don't like, it's easy to change. > I really don't see what all the fuss is, since in the compositional mode, I don't enter either until I've got a good idea what both pitch and rhythm should be and then it doesn't matter which goes in first. To me it is inconvenient because when I use Speed Entry with an external keyboard, I keep my eyes on the screen and don't look at the keyboard. If I hit a wrong note when entering music, my ears warn me, so I can play the right note before it is entered. If I play the wrong note in Sibelius, the wrong note goes into the score, so I have to stop and fix it. That slows down the process. it is easier and faster to detect a wrong note and correct it at the keyboard than to edit the score. Could one edit a wrong note in Sibelius as fast and easily as moving a finger to an adjacent key in the keyboard? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Blessed be the ties that bind ... and, why don't some?
To tie all notes of a chord, position the cursor above the top note or below the lowest, then hit the tie command. Harold At 12:42 -0700 17/10/09, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: >Often when I attempt to tie one chord across a bar line, and the stack has >three or more note in it ... only some of the notes tie. A) why, and B) how do >I fix it? > >Dean > > >Canto ergo sum >And, >I'd rather be composing than decomposing > >Dean M. Estabrook >http://deanestabrook.googlepages.com/home > > > > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th
At 11:19 -0400 03/10/09, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Sat Oct 3, at SaturdayOct 3 10:34 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>At 9:51 -0400 03/10/09, Christopher Smith wrote: >>>On Sat Oct 3, at SaturdayOct 3 9:03 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>>I also do not use the chord scale theory as a basis for improvisation nor >>>>in my playing neither in my teaching, simply because I think good melodies >>>>are made of chord tones plus non-harmonic tones, and those can be either >>>>diatonic or cromatic ones. Not all notes of a melody need to be from the >>>>"chord scale". Also, there is no time in improvisation, specialy when >>>>chords change fast, to play a full scale for each chord; and picking up >>>>scale tones at random won't work either in building a good melody. >>> >>> >>>If you say that good melody notes can be diatonic or chromatic ones, then >>>you use chord scale theory. Chord scale theory only tells us which notes are >>>more likely to be considered as "diatonic" rather than "chromatic" and gives >>>us an easy way to practice them. After a while, we just know them and don't >>>worry about it much any more. >>> >>>Christopher >> >>Unless I'm mistaken, chord scale theory says if you are in Cmaj you use C >>major scale for CMaj7, dorian mode for Dm7 phrygian for Em7, lydian for >>FMaj7, etc. What I say that all diatonic non-harmonic tones for all those >>chords come from the C major scale. You build your improvisation with chord >>tones from those chords plus passing tones, neighbooring tones, scale runs, >>whatever... from the C major sale only, or cromatic notes. To say that the >>phrygian mode gives me the diatonic notes for the Em7 chord in Cmajor is >>redundant, don't you think? >> >>Harold > >I don't know about "redundant", but it gets a lot more useful when talking >about the kinds of chords we were discussing. What scale is considered to be >"diatonic" on an Fm chord in the key of C major? F melodic minor is a good >one, but there are cases to be made for F dorian, C harmonic minor (starting >from F, of course, if we are talking about chord scales) and that weird scale >I don't know the name for, like an F lydian but with A flat. > >On Bb7 in Cmajor it is a split between using a passing E or passing Eb, and >chord scale theory helps up with these less-obvious choices (it depends on >context.) > >We were particularly talking about m7(b5) chords, which on a II chord in minor >work nicely with locrian, but as a VI chord in minor or as a II chord in MAJOR >might be better with locrian maj2. > >Christopher > >Sorry, on your original example again, it depends on context. E phrygian on >Em7 might seem obvious in the key of C, but what about bar 3 of Satin Doll? E >Dorian is a perfectly playable scale there, on that chord, and we aren't even >into Freddie Hubbard territory yet. I still think there is a lot of chord >scale theory that can help us. >___ Fm in C major: Diatonic notes are from C minor scale from which it is borrowed, except if it has a maj7, as in FmMaj7, but then it is obvious you need to substitute E for Eb, making it an F melodic minor, up and down. If there is no mention of 7th in the symbol, you may use either scale in improvisation, since you can imply wathever 7th you want added to the chord, because there is no other melody going on. Em7 in Satin Doll You might have a point there. But you still can use F natural in the second Em7, as it goes to Dm7 via its secondary dominant. Also, one usually adds a 9th to the Em7 chord and a 13th to the A7, and that puts you momentarily in the D major region (IIm7-V7 of D), and thus your E dorian scale. My question: how does one know, from the chord scale theory, that the scale to use in the Em7 chord of Satin Doll is the dorian? How does the theory tell you that, except by showing you that for the moment you are in the D major territoty? My point is, if you know what tonal region you are, you can easily figure out what notes are diatonic, and don't need chord scale theory. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th
At 9:51 -0400 03/10/09, Christopher Smith wrote: >On Sat Oct 3, at SaturdayOct 3 9:03 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> I also do not use the chord scale theory as a basis for improvisation nor in >> my playing neither in my teaching, simply because I think good melodies are >> made of chord tones plus non-harmonic tones, and those can be either >> diatonic or cromatic ones. Not all notes of a melody need to be from the >> "chord scale". Also, there is no time in improvisation, specialy when chords >> change fast, to play a full scale for each chord; and picking up scale tones >> at random won't work either in building a good melody. > > >If you say that good melody notes can be diatonic or chromatic ones, then you >use chord scale theory. Chord scale theory only tells us which notes are more >likely to be considered as "diatonic" rather than "chromatic" and gives us an >easy way to practice them. After a while, we just know them and don't worry >about it much any more. > >Christopher Unless I'm mistaken, chord scale theory says if you are in Cmaj you use C major scale for CMaj7, dorian mode for Dm7 phrygian for Em7, lydian for FMaj7, etc. What I say that all diatonic non-harmonic tones for all those chords come from the C major scale. You build your improvisation with chord tones from those chords plus passing tones, neighbooring tones, scale runs, whatever... from the C major sale only, or cromatic notes. To say that the phrygian mode gives me the diatonic notes for the Em7 chord in Cmajor is redundant, don't you think? Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th
At 5:35 -0400 03/10/09, dhbailey wrote: >A-NO-NE Music wrote: >> >>On 2009/10/02, at 18:18, Robert Lingnau wrote: >> >>>To answer your question: Yes, C MI 6 with the 6th in the bass is A MI7 (b5). >> >>They are not the same. A-7(b5) dictates Locrian. C-6 forces you to avoid >>7th to voice, meaning the 7th will be b7th or natural 7th which will be a >>choice for the improviser. >> >>Again, most important thing here is that 6 chord by definition tells you not >>to voice the 7th. >> > >Knowing of course that your expertise in these matters far exceeds mine, how >exactly does any chord designation "force" anything on an improviser? And how >does A-locrian differ from C-dorian (which I would expect to be played over >Cmin(maj6)) other than in the starting note? Suggest, certainly, but force? I agree with you that there is no difference. I also do not use the chord scale theory as a basis for improvisation nor in my playing neither in my teaching, simply because I think good melodies are made of chord tones plus non-harmonic tones, and those can be either diatonic or cromatic ones. Not all notes of a melody need to be from the "chord scale". Also, there is no time in improvisation, specialy when chords change fast, to play a full scale for each chord; and picking up scale tones at random won't work either in building a good melody. >Avoiding the 7th in voicing the chord, leaving the choice of b7 or natural7 to >the improviser, how would that differ between the two chord designations? >Would someone really add a Bb or a Bnat to the A-7(b5)? I guess they could >add the 9th pretty easily, but so, too, could they add the Bb or Bnat in a >Cmin(maj6)/A designation, couldn't they, since the A would be in the bass and >thus farther away from where the Bb/Bnat would be voiced? This is what I think. Considering you have a Cm6 chord, you can choose either one of the 7ths in a melody. For instance if you play a descendig scalewise group of notes from D to A the Bb sounds good; and if you play a rising group from, say, C to Eb, the B natural will sound good also. As for the chord, you never use a b7 in a min6 chord, but you could add a Maj7th if the melody permits. For instance, if the melody is the root, you don't use the Maj7th, but if the melody is the 9th, the added Maj7h would soung good as in the chord C, A, Eb, G, B (rising from C) and a D in the melody. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: minor 6th
At 11:05 +0200 02/10/09, dc wrote: >I've been playing figured bass for years and years, but know very little about >jazz, unfortunately. > >Someone (in a film) says about Th. Monk: > >"The first time I heard a chord like a minor 6th chord, with the 6th in the >bass." > >Wikipedia says: > >"The chord consists of a minor triad with an added major sixth tone; thus in >C, it would contain the notes C, Eb, G, and A. This chord might be notated >Cm6, Cm/M6, Cmin/Maj6, C min (Maj6), etc." > >My question, if the 6th is in the bass, doesn't this become a minor 7th chord? >If not what is the difference? > >Thanks. > >Dennis If it is a major triad with an added major 6th, yes: C6/A is the same as Am7. But you're talking about a minor 6th. Then, if it is a minor triad with an added minor 6th it becomes a major 7th chord: Cm(b6)/Ab is the same as AbMaj7. And if it the triad is major and the 6th minor, then you get an Ab augmented triad plus a major 7th, notated as AbMaj7(#5). In chord changes writing, to write a Cm(b6)/Ab is nonsense. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] page size
At 13:53 -0500 21/09/09, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>How do you get Finale not to forget the page number assigned to ALL PAGES. I >>keep selecting A4 FOR ALL PAGES but it insists in changeing back to letter >>for new pages, and in some cases even the ones that have already beenchanged >>to A4 >>Finale 2009 Mac > >Did you change the page size setting in only one place? I always do it in two. >I change the size in the "page format" submenu of the document drop down menu, >which changes the size for all future pages, and I change it in the "page >size" submenu of the drop down menu (labeled "page layout") of the page layout >tool. The latter setting changes the size of existing pages, the former >changes the size of the next page to be added. Note that in the page format >submenu of the document drop down menu, the page format for score, and for >parts need to be set independently. > >ns Yes I did. I will do what you suggest, and hope it will fix the problem. However, after I do some changes in the page layout which diminishes the number of pages, say, optimizing, or chaning the margins between systems to fit more sistems in one page, the last, or the few last pages of the score revert to Letter size, even though all the pages had been A4 before. weird Thanks. Haroldo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] page size
How do you get Finale not to forget the page number assigned to ALL PAGES. I keep selecting A4 FOR ALL PAGES but it insists in changeing back to letter for new pages, and in some cases even the ones that have already beenchanged to A4 Finale 2009 Mac ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Included Fonts (was Hauptstimme)
I'm sure they are not included. Harold At 23:30 -0700 09/09/09, Eric Dannewitz wrote: >Included Fonts, according to the Finale 2009 install disc are: > >Maestro >JazzFont >Engraver Font >Petrucci (Legacy) >Seville (Legacy) >Tamburo (Legacy) > >So it seems that Toccatta or Fughetta are not included. But they seem to be >out on the web. > >http://www.efn.org/~bch/fullpackage.html > >For shareware.at least according to the 4 year old webpage... > > >On Sep 9, 2009, at 9:30 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > >>On 9 Sep 2009 at 20:45, Chuck Israels wrote: >> >>>I've been using Finale since v. 1 and had no idea Toccatta was >>>included. Don't know if that's MM's fault or mine. >> >>I'd be interested to know if you have it on your computer, since you >>obviously didn't acquire it yourself. Maybe I'm just wrong that it is >>(or was) distributed with Finale -- I've had it (and its mate, >>Fughetta) for so long that I can't say for certain whether it came >>with Finale or if I acquired it elsewhere. >> >>-- >>David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >>David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: no early music in Wikipedia!
At 19:59 -0400 03/09/09, Andrew Stiller wrote: >I was startled, not to mention dismayed, a few days ago to find that there are >apparently no articles in Wikipedia for any composer older than Purcell! At >the very least I could find nothing for Leonin, Machaut, Dufay, Josquin, >Palestrina, Lassus, Monteverdi, or Schuetz. > >Seems to me there's a lot of opportunity there for grad students, or even >undergrads, to get a quick publication credit. > >Andrew Stiller >Kallisti Music Press >http://www.kallistimusic.com/ Andrew, something is wrong. I found Wikipedia articles for all of the composers you mentioned above. Haroldo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale 2008 crash
At 14:15 -0400 22/08/09, Martin Banner wrote: >I think the crash occured because yesterday, for the first time in over a year >of using Finale 2008, I decided to re-arrange the main tool palette from the 3 >across formation to the two across formation, and from what I've been told, >that was a bug in 2008. So now that I have things up and running again, I >won't be touching the 3 across arrangement of the main tool palette, and >hopefully no more crashes. > >Martin And the bug persists in Finale 2009, even though I was told by MakeMusic support, in writting, it was fixed. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] staff list doesn't work
Thanks Michael. I too, keep the original files in older versions, but I did a lot of work on this one, and I'm afraid I'll have to do it all again, but this time I'll start with a default file. It seems I'll be assuming a risk every time I start a new score from an older file "saved as" something else. Harold At 12:52 +0200 29/07/09, Florence + Michael wrote: >I don't know what the error code means: I guess the file is corrupted. I keep >all my old versions of Finale, from 3.7 onwards, and never throw out the >original versions of older files, since I'm wary of bugs in the process of >importing files into newer versions. You could try sending the file to >MakeMusic tech support. > >Michael > >On 29 Jul 2009, at 03:20, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Yes, I have only Xs. Under "parts" I put X for all instruments. Under "score" >>I put an X only for the 2 staves I wanted, but the signs show on all 5 >>staves when looking at the score. This is how I had it set the last time I >>opened the score. HOWEVER, I just tried to open the score now, and got this >>message from the finder: "While attempting to open the file "Nação.mus" the >>File Manager reported an error. -39" Restarted the computer, no use... >> >>The file won't open. It may be corrupted. Now I'm afraid, since this problem >>has happened before, with other files, to loose those also. These are >>probably files from older versions that I've saved as something else in newer >>versions. >> >>Thanks >>Harold >> > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] staff list doesn't work
At 0:02 +0200 29/07/09, Florence + Michael wrote: > >Stupid things to check: > >1: In the Text Repeat Assignment dialog, is the sign set to use the correct >staff list? Yes >2: Is the staff list correctly defined? There should be an X (for "show") or >an F (for "force", to force the sign to appear even on staves which have been >set not to show text repeats) by the staves where the sign should appear, and >nothing at all by the staves where it should not appear. Yes, I have only Xs. Under "parts" I put X for all instruments. Under "score" I put an X only for the 2 staves I wanted, but the signs show on all 5 staves when looking at the score. This is how I had it set the last time I opened the score. HOWEVER, I just tried to open the score now, and got this message from the finder: "While attempting to open the file "Nação.mus" the File Manager reported an error. -39" Restarted the computer, no use... The file won't open. It may be corrupted. Now I'm afraid, since this problem has happened before, with other files, to loose those also. These are probably files from older versions that I've saved as something else in newer versions. Thanks Harold > >On 28 Jul 2009, at 19:13, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>This happens all the time, and I could never figure out what is wrong. I have >>a score for 4 instruments: cavaquinho, guitar, bass and piano, in that order. >>I want the S (segno) and coda signs to appear only at the top instrument and >>top piano staff, in the score, and in all parts. So I mark, in the staff >>list: Cavaquinho and top piano staff under "score"; and all but the lower >>piano staff under "parts". I get an unexpected result. The signs appear on >>every staff of the score. Am I forgeting something? >> >>(Happens in Finale for Mac 2008 and 2009) > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] staff list doesn't work
This happens all the time, and I could never figure out what is wrong. I have a score for 4 instruments: cavaquinho, guitar, bass and piano, in that order. I want the S (segno) and coda signs to appear only at the top instrument and top piano staff, in the score, and in all parts. So I mark, in the staff list: Cavaquinho and top piano staff under "score"; and all but the lower piano staff under "parts". I get an unexpected result. The signs appear on every staff of the score. Am I forgeting something? (Happens in Finale for Mac 2008 and 2009) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] staff list doesn't work
This happens all the time, and I could never figured out what is wrong. I have a score for 4 instruments: cavaquinho, guitar, bass and piano, in that order. I want the S (segno) and coda signs to appear only at the top instrument and top piano staff, in the score, and in all parts. So I mark, in the staff list: Cavaquinho and top piano staff under "score"; and all but the lower piano staff under "parts". I get an unexpected result. The signs appear on every staff of the score. Am I forgeting something? (Happens in Finale for Mac 2008 and 2009) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] MakeMusic lies
Below is MakeMusic's reply on my complaint about a Finale 2008 bug that makes the program quit unexpectedly upon launch. It is caused by the rearranging the main tool palete in a vertical position, and the only fix is the trashing of the preferences file. This answer is a lie, since the bug still exists in version 2009. At 17:51 -0500 05/09/08, [september 5th] MakeMusic Customer Support wrote: Subject bugs in 2008 - please updateDiscussion Thread Response (Beth V.)09/05/2008 05:51 PM Harolodo, Thank you for your email. Those issues are fixed in Finale 2009. There will be no more updates made to Finale 2008. I realize your distaste for this decision. I will forward your email to the developers. Have a great day, Beth V. This next quote is from their reply upon my request for a free 2009 upgrade: At 14:07 -0500 08/09/08, [september 9th] MakeMusic Customer Support wrote: We will not send you a free Finale 2009 as the 2008b finale is compatible for OS 10.5. If you would like to utilize the new features in Finale 2009, your upgrade price from 2008 will be the standard $99.95. Fortunately, I did not buy 2009... Haroldo ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Can't make PDFs from Finale 2k9 Mac
At 15:11 +0200 18/06/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >On 18.06.2009 J D Thomas wrote: >>Time to seriously consider moving to Sibelius 6? >> >>Couldn't resist. > >Well. I certainly get the feeling that they actually fix things, whereas it >seems with MakeMusic each version of Finale introuces more bugs. The worst >ones seem to get fixed with the next payed upgrade, the rest never gets fixed >at all. > >A bug like this I simply expect to be fixed immediately. Ie within weeks >rather than months. > >I payed for the Finale 2k9 update only a few months ago. Lately I have not >used Finale much, and I have only used 2k9 perhaps five times for very small >jobs. Do I now have to get 2k10 to get this fixed? If that is the case >Sibelius is becoming a very likely option. I am certainly not going to feed >the folks at MM for their ridiculous bugs. > >Johannes I felt the same way when I complained to MakeMusic about some FinMac 2008 bugs, and they told me there would be no more updates to 2008, but the bugs were fixed in 2009. I then requested 2009 for free, but my request was denied. How would you feel if you took a defective brand new laptop to the shop for repair and they told you they would not fix it, but you could buy the new model, which is not defective, for a fraction of the price? So I bought the Sibelius crossgrade for $99. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] staff name doesn't change
To whom is following this thread: I have sent the file in question to Noel, who found out I had a Staff Stile overriding the Staff Name. Than you Noel. Haroldo At 14:14 -0500 01/05/09, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo > >Did you initially name staves 1 and 2 using the staff attributes dialog? I >ask, because the behavior is consistent with your not having done so. Staff >attribute names are specialized text blocks. If you open the text block >editing dialog it is possible to scan all text blocks, and you will find you >can edit the staff attribute names in the text block editing dialog box. >However, doing so causes behavior I don't yet know how to predict. > >My first guess, is that if you open the dialog box, you will indeed find the >staff names "flute", and "a" and "b". The reason you see flute, is that the >text blocks created with the staff attribute dialog (in your case "a" and "b") >are drawn earlier than the other text blocks, and that the other text blocks >overwrite the "a' and "b". > >ns > >>Hi, >>In this document, containing 3 staves, I have named staves 1 and 2 "Flute" >>(each). The word "Flute" appears on the score, as expected, at the staves' 1 >>and 2 left side. Staff 3 had no name. >> >>I opened the Staff Atributes dialog, clicked the "edit" button for "Full >>Name" and typed "a" for staff 1, and repeated the process for the other >>staves as following: "b" for staff 2 and "c" for the third staff. THe result >>was unexpected. Staff 3 shows "c" but staves 1 and 2 keep showing "Flute". >> >>If I open the editing fields to rename staves 1 and 2 I see "a" and "b" >>already there. But in the score is "Flute" that shows. Interesting... I'd >>like to know what is causing this. Thanks. >> >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] staff name doesn't change
Thanks, Noel. That was indeed my first guess, that is, having named them by means other than the staff attributes dialog. But no, the square boxes next to the names appear only when the Staff Tool is selected. I also double clicked the word "flute" with the selection tool to make sure, and that activated the Staff Tool, presenting, as expected, the tiny square boxes next to the three staff names. However, selecting the top "flute" text by clicking on the square, selects it plus staff 2 "flute" text (as if I shift-clicked the latter), and vice-versa. If I drag one the other moves together. I opened the text block editing dialog box (thanks, I had never done so before) No occurrences of both flute and letters a or b in one text block. I found the word "flute", alone and only once, at the beginning; as for "a", "b", and "c", these were the last three. Harold At 14:14 -0500 01/05/09, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo > >Did you initially name staves 1 and 2 using the staff attributes dialog? I >ask, because the behavior is consistent with your not having done so. Staff >attribute names are specialized text blocks. If you open the text block >editing dialog it is possible to scan all text blocks, and you will find you >can edit the staff attribute names in the text block editing dialog box. >However, doing so causes behavior I don't yet know how to predict. > >My first guess, is that if you open the dialog box, you will indeed find the >staff names "flute", and "a" and "b". The reason you see flute, is that the >text blocks created with the staff attribute dialog (in your case "a" and "b") >are drawn earlier than the other text blocks, and that the other text blocks >overwrite the "a' and "b". > >ns > >>Hi, >>In this document, containing 3 staves, I have named staves 1 and 2 "Flute" >>(each). The word "Flute" appears on the score, as expected, at the staves' 1 >>and 2 left side. Staff 3 had no name. >> >>I opened the Staff Atributes dialog, clicked the "edit" button for "Full >>Name" and typed "a" for staff 1, and repeated the process for the other >>staves as following: "b" for staff 2 and "c" for the third staff. THe result >>was unexpected. Staff 3 shows "c" but staves 1 and 2 keep showing "Flute". >> >>If I open the editing fields to rename staves 1 and 2 I see "a" and "b" >>already there. But in the score is "Flute" that shows. Interesting... I'd >>like to know what is causing this. Thanks. >> >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] staff name doesn't change
Hi, In this document, containing 3 staves, I have named staves 1 and 2 "Flute" (each). The word "Flute" appears on the score, as expected, at the staves' 1 and 2 left side. Staff 3 had no name. I opened the Staff Atributes dialog, clicked the "edit" button for "Full Name" and typed "a" for staff 1, and repeated the process for the other staves as following: "b" for staff 2 and "c" for the third staff. THe result was unexpected. Staff 3 shows "c" but staves 1 and 2 keep showing "Flute". If I open the editing fields to rename staves 1 and 2 I see "a" and "b" already there. But in the score is "Flute" that shows. Interesting... I'd like to know what is causing this. Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Chord symbols
You can enter as many chords as you want on the same note. After you enter the first chord, F, choose "Manual Input" from the Chord menu. Then click on the note that is on the first beat again. Th Chord Definition dialog opens. Enter the chord you want , click OK, and the new chord will appear above the first one. Then place it wherever you want by dragging. If you want a third chord, a fourth, fifth... just repeat the process. All chords will be connected with the same whole note. However, when playing back you'll hear all chords played at once. Haroldo At 16:32 +0100 24/04/09, Stan Lord wrote: >Macfin 2009 > >If I have a whole note, say F, and I want to enter a F chord on beat 1 and >then a Bb chord >on beat 3 is there an easy work around for this instead of having to imput >invisible rests in a different layer? >I've lost touch with this recentlly. It's a bit of a pain. > >Stan Lord >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale quits when inserting measure stack
This is an original Finale Mac 2003 file converted to 2008. In your experience, did it also happened with files created by version 2008? This never happens when I use version 2003 (I do it eventually). Harold At 22:43 -0400 16/04/09, Christopher Smith wrote: >Harold, you HAVE to send that to tech support! This kind of corruption happens >all the time, and they seem to be at a loss to figure out why it happens. If >you can supply a file and a solution like that, that will help them track it >down. > >Christopher > > >On 16-Apr-09, at 16-Apr-09 10:13 PM, JRB wrote: > >>Sometimes you just gotta try the most absurd workarounds. Eventually you >>might get lucky. Glad it worked for you. >> >>JB >>Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker >> >>On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:48 PM, "Haroldo Mauro Jr." wrote: >> >>>Amazing! How did you find that out? >>> >>> >>>At 18:45 -0500 16/04/09, JRB wrote: >>>>Insert 20 measures and then delete the 18 extra. Should work. >>>>JB >>>>Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker >>>> >>>>On Apr 16, 2009, at 6:28 PM, "Haroldo Mauro Jr." wrote: >>>> >>>>>FinMac 2008 >>>>> >>>>>Finale quits every time I try to to insert a couple of measures on this >>>>>score. The score has 6 staves. I click the selection tool, select a >>>>>measure in the score, choose "Insert Measure Stack" from the Edit menu, >>>>>enter 2 in the dialog box and click OK, after which I get the spinning >>>>>ball for a while and then Finale quits. would trashing the preferences >>>>>file do any good? Or do I need to add two measures at the end and copy all >>>>>music two measures ahead? Thanks. >>>>>Harold >>>>>___ >>>>>Finale mailing list >>>>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>>___ >>>>Finale mailing list >>>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale quits when inserting measure stack
Amazing! How did you find that out? At 18:45 -0500 16/04/09, JRB wrote: >Insert 20 measures and then delete the 18 extra. Should work. >JB >Sent from my iPhone using my thumbs w/out a spellchecker > >On Apr 16, 2009, at 6:28 PM, "Haroldo Mauro Jr." wrote: > >>FinMac 2008 >> >>Finale quits every time I try to to insert a couple of measures on this >>score. The score has 6 staves. I click the selection tool, select a measure >>in the score, choose "Insert Measure Stack" from the Edit menu, enter 2 in >>the dialog box and click OK, after which I get the spinning ball for a while >>and then Finale quits. would trashing the preferences file do any good? Or do >>I need to add two measures at the end and copy all music two measures ahead? >>Thanks. >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Finale quits when inserting measure stack
FinMac 2008 Finale quits every time I try to to insert a couple of measures on this score. The score has 6 staves. I click the selection tool, select a measure in the score, choose "Insert Measure Stack" from the Edit menu, enter 2 in the dialog box and click OK, after which I get the spinning ball for a while and then Finale quits. would trashing the preferences file do any good? Or do I need to add two measures at the end and copy all music two measures ahead? Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style multiplication
Thanks. Try Document>Data Check>File Maintenance. I was able to delete them all at once. Harold At 8:14 -0400 16/04/09, Chuck Israels wrote: >Harold, > >I believe this is a bug of which MM is aware, and that they are working on it. > I've only been able to delete the extras one at a time. Maybe someone else >has a better idea. > >Chuck > >Sent from my iPhone > >On Apr 16, 2009, at 7:57 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>I opened the "Apply Staff Style" window this morning and there was about 80 >>repetitions of "Slash Notation". Is there an easy way to erase them? >> >>Than you. >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Staff Style multiplication
Got rid of them in Document>Data Check>File Maintenance. Thanks for reading. Harold At 8:57 -0300 16/04/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >I opened the "Apply Staff Style" window this morning and there was about 80 >repetitions of "Slash Notation". Is there an easy way to erase them? > >Than you. >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Staff Style multiplication
I opened the "Apply Staff Style" window this morning and there was about 80 repetitions of "Slash Notation". Is there an easy way to erase them? Than you. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] chord changes playback
Great. Thank you. Harold At 12:31 -0400 12/04/09, Christopher Smith wrote: >In the Chord menu, uncheck Enable Chord Playback. Then no chord will playback >ever in the piece. > >You can disable chord playback staff by staff as well, using the Instrument >List window. Click the triangle next to the staff you want to silence, and >mute the Chords item. > >Christopher > > >On Apr 12, 2009, at 11:42 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>I don't want Finale (2008 Mac) to play chord changes in the score I'm >>editing, so I changed the chord assignments accordingly in >>Utilities>Change>Chords... However, every time I place a new chord in the >>score Finale plays it back, so I keep going over and over to the change chord >>assignment window to fix it. What do I need to do so new chords won't play? >>Thank you. >>Harold >> >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] chord changes playback
I don't want Finale (2008 Mac) to play chord changes in the score I'm editing, so I changed the chord assignments accordingly in Utilities>Change>Chords... However, every time I place a new chord in the score Finale plays it back, so I keep going over and over to the change chord assignment window to fix it. What do I need to do so new chords won't play? Thank you. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
Chuck, that's not the issue here, however -- I mean, opening old files with new versions. The problem is in the Finale 2003 file itself, because I opened it with Finale 2003 and got into the same weird stuff. Harold At 13:22 -0700 02/04/09, Chuck Israels wrote: >Dear Harold, > >This kind of thing has happened to me when I've opened old files in newer >versions of Finale. It's not that unusual. The full version of TGTools has >things I wouldn't want to be without. I always use Modify/Transfer to move >the layout of one part to another in similarly laid out linked parts (just for >one example). > >Chuck > > >On Apr 2, 2009, at 12:51 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>I agree with you. I copied the music and pasted into a new file. I found out >>the other two 2003 files in the same folder as this one, have the same >>problem!!! And some other weird stuff happened. I couldn't delete a couple >>of notes entered accidentaly in speedy entry. The notes appeared only when >>leaving the measure being edited. When I clicked the measure (speedy entry) >>to delete them, they disappeared. They didn't show in any of the four layers. >>And since I could't delete the notes, I tried to clear the measure. The notes >>remained, even though everything else vanished. Then I tried deleting the >>measure. No use... Really strange. I will not use ths file, but I might get >>TGTools just to see it fixed anyway. >>Thank you. >> >>Harold >> >> >> >>At 15:06 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>>Hi Harold, >>> >>>I downloaded the file you posted and there is definitely something screwy >>>about it. >>> >>>You can fix the problem with the FULL version of TGTools (which includes the >>>Staff List Manager) -- i.e., not the TGTools Lite that comes with Finale -- >>>but it might be best to copy the music into a new file, because this one >>>seems like it's become corrupted. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>- Darcy >>>- >>>djar...@earthlink.net >>>Brooklyn, NY >>> >>>On 2 Apr 2009, at 2:42 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>>The file has never been optimized because it is a single instrument, >>>>one-staff part. But yes, I did removed it anyway. >>>>Thanks. Harold. >>>> >>>>At 14:23 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>>>>Did you try REMOVING optimization? That's what it sounds like the problem >>>>>is to me. >>>>> >>>>>Cheers, >>>>> >>>>>- Darcy >>>>>- >>>>>djar...@earthlink.net >>>>>Brooklyn, NY >>>>> >>>>>On 2 Apr 2009, at 1:47 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening: >>>>>> >>>>>>I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the >>>>>>double bass. >>>>>>I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't >>>>>>matter, and I see the bass staff with all the music. >>>>>>Still in page view, I add a new staff. >>>>>>The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass >>>>>>staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff. >>>>>>I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the >>>>>>newly created one. >>>>>>Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff. >>>>>>Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new >>>>>>staff in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected. >>>>>>Back to Page view - I see a blank page! >>>>>> >>>>>>The file is here if anyone wants to check: >>>>>> >>>>>>http://hmauro.com/finale >>>>>> >>>>>>It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it. >>>>>>Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>>Harold >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>At 13:06 -0400 02/04/09, Ray Horton wrote: >>>>>>>Sorry that I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be way off base, >>>>>>>but my first thought was to Optimize. That sometimes fixes a multitude >>>>&g
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
I agree with you. I copied the music and pasted into a new file. I found out the other two 2003 files in the same folder as this one, have the same problem!!! And some other weird stuff happened. I couldn't delete a couple of notes entered accidentaly in speedy entry. The notes appeared only when leaving the measure being edited. When I clicked the measure (speedy entry) to delete them, they disappeared. They didn't show in any of the four layers. And since I could't delete the notes, I tried to clear the measure. The notes remained, even though everything else vanished. Then I tried deleting the measure. No use... Really strange. I will not use ths file, but I might get TGTools just to see it fixed anyway. Thank you. Harold At 15:06 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Hi Harold, > >I downloaded the file you posted and there is definitely something screwy >about it. > >You can fix the problem with the FULL version of TGTools (which includes the >Staff List Manager) -- i.e., not the TGTools Lite that comes with Finale -- >but it might be best to copy the music into a new file, because this one seems >like it's become corrupted. > >Cheers, > >- Darcy >- >djar...@earthlink.net >Brooklyn, NY > >On 2 Apr 2009, at 2:42 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>The file has never been optimized because it is a single instrument, >>one-staff part. But yes, I did removed it anyway. >>Thanks. Harold. >> >>At 14:23 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >>>Did you try REMOVING optimization? That's what it sounds like the problem is >>>to me. >>> >>>Cheers, >>> >>>- Darcy >>>- >>>djar...@earthlink.net >>>Brooklyn, NY >>> >>>On 2 Apr 2009, at 1:47 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>>Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening: >>>> >>>>I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the >>>>double bass. >>>>I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't matter, >>>>and I see the bass staff with all the music. >>>>Still in page view, I add a new staff. >>>>The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass >>>>staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff. >>>>I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the >>>>newly created one. >>>>Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff. >>>>Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new staff >>>>in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected. >>>>Back to Page view - I see a blank page! >>>> >>>>The file is here if anyone wants to check: >>>> >>>>http://hmauro.com/finale >>>> >>>>It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it. >>>>Thank you. >>>> >>>>Harold >>>> >>>> >>>>At 13:06 -0400 02/04/09, Ray Horton wrote: >>>>>Sorry that I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be way off base, >>>>>but my first thought was to Optimize. That sometimes fixes a multitude of >>>>>previous changes. >>>>> >>>>>RBH >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>>>At 0:38 -0400 02/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>On 2 Apr 2009 at 1:26, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>There is one system per page, but no music!!! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>Check the margins for one of the systems. Maybe one of the margin >>>>>>>settings got set to something so large (or small) that the music is >>>>>>>actually there, just displaying somewhere completely off the page. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >>>>>>>David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>I reset the system margins and now I have several systems per page, which >>>>>>shouldn't be, since there are six staves per system. Still no music, just >>>>>>the dotted lines and small boxes. Here are the measurements for all >>>>>>systems, exept the top margin of system one, in inches: >
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
At 20:01 +0200 02/04/09, Barbara Touburg wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening: >> >>I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the >>double bass. >>I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't matter, >>and I see the bass staff with all the music. >>Still in page view, I add a new staff. >>The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass >>staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff. >>I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the newly >>created one. >>Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff. >>Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new staff >>in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected. >>Back to Page view - I see a blank page! >> >>The file is here if anyone wants to check: >> >>http://hmauro.com/finale >> >>It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it. >>Thank you. >> >>Harold > >I don't know what causes this, but I can resolve it with the Staff List >Manager in TGTools. Check both staves in the first system and copy it to all >following systems. (Check the unchecked tick box and vice versa.) I don't quite follow. You said I should check both staves in the first system, but I only see one staff in every system, and there is no Staff List Manager in my TGTools. Thanks. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
The file has never been optimized because it is a single instrument, one-staff part. But yes, I did removed it anyway. Thanks. Harold. At 14:23 -0400 02/04/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >Did you try REMOVING optimization? That's what it sounds like the problem is >to me. > >Cheers, > >- Darcy >- >djar...@earthlink.net >Brooklyn, NY > >On 2 Apr 2009, at 1:47 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening: >> >>I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the >>double bass. >>I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't matter, >>and I see the bass staff with all the music. >>Still in page view, I add a new staff. >>The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass >>staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff. >>I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the newly >>created one. >>Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff. >>Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new staff >>in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected. >>Back to Page view - I see a blank page! >> >>The file is here if anyone wants to check: >> >>http://hmauro.com/finale >> >>It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it. >>Thank you. >> >>Harold >> >> >>At 13:06 -0400 02/04/09, Ray Horton wrote: >>>Sorry that I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be way off base, but >>>my first thought was to Optimize. That sometimes fixes a multitude of >>>previous changes. >>> >>>RBH >>> >>> >>>Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>At 0:38 -0400 02/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote: >>>> >>>>>On 2 Apr 2009 at 1:26, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>There is one system per page, but no music!!! >>>>>> >>>>>Check the margins for one of the systems. Maybe one of the margin >>>>>settings got set to something so large (or small) that the music is >>>>>actually there, just displaying somewhere completely off the page. >>>>> >>>>>-- >>>>>David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >>>>>David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>I reset the system margins and now I have several systems per page, which >>>>shouldn't be, since there are six staves per system. Still no music, just >>>>the dotted lines and small boxes. Here are the measurements for all >>>>systems, exept the top margin of system one, in inches: >>>> >>>>Top: 0,37153; left: 0,04861; right: 0,04861; bottom: 0,78125 >>>>Distance between systems: 0.3 >>>> >>>>Thank you. >>>>Harold >>>>___ >>>>Finale mailing list >>>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>>> >>> >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
Thanks for answering. I did that. Doesn't help. This is what is happening: I have a single staff part written in FinMac 2003. The instrument is the double bass. I open it, in page view, whether with Finale 2003 or 2008, doesn't matter, and I see the bass staff with all the music. Still in page view, I add a new staff. The new staff does not show (still in page view). Only the original bass staff shows, as if I had not added a new staff. I switch to scroll view and I can see both staves now. The bass and the newly created one. Swith back to page view - I see only the bass staff. Back to scroll view, I delete the bass staff - now I see only the new staff in scroll view. The bass staff is gone, as expected. Back to Page view - I see a blank page! The file is here if anyone wants to check: http://hmauro.com/finale It's the only file in the directory. Try adding a new staff to it. Thank you. Harold At 13:06 -0400 02/04/09, Ray Horton wrote: >Sorry that I haven't read the whole thread, so this may be way off base, but >my first thought was to Optimize. That sometimes fixes a multitude of >previous changes. > >RBH > > >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>At 0:38 -0400 02/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote: >> >>>On 2 Apr 2009 at 1:26, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>> >>>>There is one system per page, but no music!!! >>>> >>>Check the margins for one of the systems. Maybe one of the margin >>>settings got set to something so large (or small) that the music is >>>actually there, just displaying somewhere completely off the page. >>> >>>-- >>>David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >>>David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ >>> >> >> >>I reset the system margins and now I have several systems per page, which >>shouldn't be, since there are six staves per system. Still no music, just the >>dotted lines and small boxes. Here are the measurements for all systems, >>exept the top margin of system one, in inches: >> >>Top: 0,37153; left: 0,04861; right: 0,04861; bottom: 0,78125 >>Distance between systems: 0.3 >> >>Thank you. >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >> > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
At 0:38 -0400 02/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 2 Apr 2009 at 1:26, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> There is one system per page, but no music!!! > >Check the margins for one of the systems. Maybe one of the margin >settings got set to something so large (or small) that the music is >actually there, just displaying somewhere completely off the page. > >-- >David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ I reset the system margins and now I have several systems per page, which shouldn't be, since there are six staves per system. Still no music, just the dotted lines and small boxes. Here are the measurements for all systems, exept the top margin of system one, in inches: Top: 0,37153; left: 0,04861; right: 0,04861; bottom: 0,78125 Distance between systems: 0.3 Thank you. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
At 21:55 -0500 01/04/09, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>I opened a one-staff bass part Finale file; added staves for four more >>instruments, including a piano two-staff group; switched from page view to >>scroll view and rearranged the positioning of the staves, i.e. moved the bass >>part from top to bottom, etc. Then, when I switched back to page view, there >>was no staves, no music at all. Only the title and metronome mark. What >>happened? In scroll view the music looks fine, like any other document. >Updating layout may do the trick; if not, select the staff tool, and check the >options under "staff usage", and "respace staves". Third possibility is >perhaps the page layout; might the system be so large that it won't fit on the >first page, and the music you anticipate seeing on the first page has been >shoved back to the second. In this case, adjusting system margins will be the >answer. > >ns Respace staves did nothing. The score is 33 pages long. I can move through all pages, all blank. With the Page Layout tool I can see the dotted lines indicating the systems. There is one system per page, but no music!!! I see music only in scroll or studio view. Thanks, Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] music disappeared from page view
Yes. I also restarted Finale. Nothing shows in Page view. Thanks. Harold At 19:25 -0400 01/04/09, David W. Fenton wrote: >On 1 Apr 2009 at 19:44, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> I opened a one-staff bass part Finale file; added staves for four more >> instruments, including a piano two-staff group; switched from page view to >> scroll view and rearranged the positioning of the staves, i.e. moved the >> bass part from top to bottom, etc. Then, when I switched back to page >> view, there was no staves, no music at all. Only the title and metronome >> mark. What happened? In scroll view the music looks fine, like any other >> document. > >Did you update the layout in page view? > >-- >David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com >David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] music disappeared from page view
I opened a one-staff bass part Finale file; added staves for four more instruments, including a piano two-staff group; switched from page view to scroll view and rearranged the positioning of the staves, i.e. moved the bass part from top to bottom, etc. Then, when I switched back to page view, there was no staves, no music at all. Only the title and metronome mark. What happened? In scroll view the music looks fine, like any other document. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OK button bug
I agree with you and I too, use the keyboard a lot -- escape and all... However, sometimes I'd rather click, and if I want to click, I should be able to do it instead of dealing with bugs. Harold At 22:42 +1100 31/03/09, Matthew Gmail wrote: >Pressing "escape" for cancel is even one less keystroke than apple-. >I have found that keystrokes are quicker and more accurate than mousing around. >Matthew > > >On 31/03/2009, at 4:49 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > >>You can also use the "Enter" key for "OK" and "Command-." for "Cancel." >> >>I understand it is technically an OS bug but it seems to only afflict Finale >>-- not any other app I own. I am not sure why this is but I have gotten used >>to using those shortcuts. >> >>Cheers, >> >>- Darcy >>- >>djar...@earthlink.net >>Brooklyn, NY >> >>On 30 Mar 2009, at 10:57 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: >> >>>Click the title bar of the db after you click the button. This is Apple's >>>fault not MM's this time. It's an OS bug that Apple acknowledged. Dunno when >>>it'll be fixed. >>> >>>On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>>Finale 2008 is so buggy I asked MakeMusic my money back or a free upgrade. >>>>They never answered me. I've been using Finale since version 2, paid a lot >>>>of money in upgrades. I am angry at MakeMusic. I bought a defective >>>>product, I think they should replace it with a good one,or give me a >>>>refund, like when you buy a defective radio... TV... but no, they couldn't >>>>care less, as long as lots of people keep buying their lousy and useless >>>>upgrades. I felt cheated and switched to Sibelius. I'll never buy another >>>>Finale upgrade. However, I still have lots of music written in Finale which >>>>I need to edit. So, here's one of the bugs I am trying to avoid: >>>> >>>>Very often the OK and Cancel buttons do not respond to mouse or trackpad >>>>clicks on my Macbook (OS 10.5.6). Is this a common bug? Is there a way to >>>>avoid it? Something I shouldn't do? Drives me nuts., if anyone has a >>>>suggestion, I am listening. Thank you. >>>>___ >>>>Finale mailing list >>>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>>Allen Fisher >>>Founder and Principal Developer >>>Fisher Art and Technology >>>al...@fisherartandtech.com >>>i...@fisherartandtech.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OK button bug
Actually clicking anywhere in the window works for me. I'm surprised it is Apple's bug, because it only happens with Finale buttons. Thank you. Harold At 21:57 -0500 30/03/09, Allen Fisher wrote: >Click the title bar of the db after you click the button. This is Apple's >fault not MM's this time. It's an OS bug that Apple acknowledged. Dunno when >it'll be fixed. > >On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Finale 2008 is so buggy I asked MakeMusic my money back or a free upgrade. >>They never answered me. I've been using Finale since version 2, paid a lot of >>money in upgrades. I am angry at MakeMusic. I bought a defective product, I >>think they should replace it with a good one,or give me a refund, like when >>you buy a defective radio... TV... but no, they couldn't care less, as long >>as lots of people keep buying their lousy and useless upgrades. I felt >>cheated and switched to Sibelius. I'll never buy another Finale upgrade. >>However, I still have lots of music written in Finale which I need to edit. >>So, here's one of the bugs I am trying to avoid: >> >>Very often the OK and Cancel buttons do not respond to mouse or trackpad >>clicks on my Macbook (OS 10.5.6). Is this a common bug? Is there a way to >>avoid it? Something I shouldn't do? Drives me nuts., if anyone has a >>suggestion, I am listening. Thank you. >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >Allen Fisher >Founder and Principal Developer >Fisher Art and Technology >al...@fisherartandtech.com >i...@fisherartandtech.com > > > > > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OK button bug
Yes, that's what I do, of course. Fn+return in the laptop for windows with text fields. Thanks. Harold At 1:49 -0400 31/03/09, Darcy James Argue wrote: >You can also use the "Enter" key for "OK" and "Command-." for "Cancel." > >I understand it is technically an OS bug but it seems to only afflict Finale >-- not any other app I own. I am not sure why this is but I have gotten used >to using those shortcuts. > >Cheers, > >- Darcy >- >djar...@earthlink.net >Brooklyn, NY > >On 30 Mar 2009, at 10:57 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: > >>Click the title bar of the db after you click the button. This is Apple's >>fault not MM's this time. It's an OS bug that Apple acknowledged. Dunno when >>it'll be fixed. >> >>On Mar 30, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >>>Finale 2008 is so buggy I asked MakeMusic my money back or a free upgrade. >>>They never answered me. I've been using Finale since version 2, paid a lot >>>of money in upgrades. I am angry at MakeMusic. I bought a defective >>>product, I think they should replace it with a good one,or give me a refund, >>>like when you buy a defective radio... TV... but no, they couldn't care >>>less, as long as lots of people keep buying their lousy and useless >>>upgrades. I felt cheated and switched to Sibelius. I'll never buy another >>>Finale upgrade. However, I still have lots of music written in Finale which >>>I need to edit. So, here's one of the bugs I am trying to avoid: >>> >>>Very often the OK and Cancel buttons do not respond to mouse or trackpad >>>clicks on my Macbook (OS 10.5.6). Is this a common bug? Is there a way to >>>avoid it? Something I shouldn't do? Drives me nuts., if anyone has a >>>suggestion, I am listening. Thank you. >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>Allen Fisher >>Founder and Principal Developer >>Fisher Art and Technology >>al...@fisherartandtech.com >>i...@fisherartandtech.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OK button bug
Finale 2008 is so buggy I asked MakeMusic my money back or a free upgrade. They never answered me. I've been using Finale since version 2, paid a lot of money in upgrades. I am angry at MakeMusic. I bought a defective product, I think they should replace it with a good one,or give me a refund, like when you buy a defective radio... TV... but no, they couldn't care less, as long as lots of people keep buying their lousy and useless upgrades. I felt cheated and switched to Sibelius. I'll never buy another Finale upgrade. However, I still have lots of music written in Finale which I need to edit. So, here's one of the bugs I am trying to avoid: Very often the OK and Cancel buttons do not respond to mouse or trackpad clicks on my Macbook (OS 10.5.6). Is this a common bug? Is there a way to avoid it? Something I shouldn't do? Drives me nuts., if anyone has a suggestion, I am listening. Thank you. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] note heads (fixed!)
I had the "Normal Stem Lenght" and "Shortened Stem Lenght" set to 0 in Documents Options>Stems. Harold At 17:16 -0300 20/03/09, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >I did that, several times. Still no stems. Thanks. The file was created with >Finale 2003. >Harold > > >At 11:36 -0400 20/03/09, John Roberts wrote: >>That's how I've always done it - custom stem tool and apply an empty stem - >>and to remove it you simply use Clear Selected Items: Stem and Beam >>Alterations. Maybe that would work however you created them. It's now in the >>Edit Menu (it used to be in the Mass Mover). >> >>JR >> >> >> >>On 3/20/09 7:02 AM, "Noel Stoutenburg" wrote: >> >>> Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>>> In some [files] I removed the stems on quarter and half notes, leaving only >>>> the note heads. I opened one of these files yesterday to save as something >>>> else and tried to put the stems back, but could not. I don't remember how I >>>> removed them. >>> You don't say what version of Finale you first created the file in, so >>> terminology may vary. I suspect that you removed the stems by using an >>> option accessed in some versions as "document options > Music options". >>> This dialog box has three labeled input boxes where you can set the >>> "stem length", "shortened stem length", and "half stem length". Setting >>> all three to "0" [zero] is the quickest way to get stemless notes >>> globally. The next option that comes to my mind is that you used the >>> custom stem tool. (the special tool that looks like a snowflake). The >>> recommended way to achieve a few stemless notes (at least when I learned >>> how to do it) was to use the custom stem tool, and apply an empty stem. >>> >>> ns >>> >>> ___ >>> Finale mailing list >>> Finale@shsu.edu >>> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] note heads
Thanks. Nothing happens when I click a note head. If I click above or below it, the whole measure gets highlighted. Harold At 8:07 -0700 20/03/09, Chuck Israels wrote: >Dear Harold, > >Depending on how these stemless notes were created, it maybe possible to clear >stem alterations using the selection tool. At least I'd try that. > >Chuck > > >On Mar 20, 2009, at 2:55 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Years ago I wrote some examples in Finale, for my students. In some of them I >>removed the stems on quarter and half notes, leaving only the note heads. I >>opened one of these files yesterday to save as something else and tried to >>put the stems back, but could not. I don't remember how I removed them. I >>thought I should try the Special Tools box. When I choose the toll that >>makes the stem longer or shorter, two square boxes appear next to the note >>heads. I figured that if I dragged them up or down, the stem would reappear, >>but no, they didn't. Please help. FinMac 2008 >>Thank you >> >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >Chuck Israels >230 North Garden Terrace >Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 >phone (360) 671-3402 >fax (360) 676-6055 >www.chuckisraels.com > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] note heads
I did that, several times. Still no stems. Thanks. The file was created with Finale 2003. Harold At 11:36 -0400 20/03/09, John Roberts wrote: >That's how I've always done it - custom stem tool and apply an empty stem - >and to remove it you simply use Clear Selected Items: Stem and Beam >Alterations. Maybe that would work however you created them. It's now in the >Edit Menu (it used to be in the Mass Mover). > >JR > > > >On 3/20/09 7:02 AM, "Noel Stoutenburg" wrote: > >> Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> In some [files] I removed the stems on quarter and half notes, leaving only >>> the note heads. I opened one of these files yesterday to save as something >>> else and tried to put the stems back, but could not. I don't remember how I >>> removed them. >> You don't say what version of Finale you first created the file in, so >> terminology may vary. I suspect that you removed the stems by using an >> option accessed in some versions as "document options > Music options". >> This dialog box has three labeled input boxes where you can set the >> "stem length", "shortened stem length", and "half stem length". Setting >> all three to "0" [zero] is the quickest way to get stemless notes >> globally. The next option that comes to my mind is that you used the >> custom stem tool. (the special tool that looks like a snowflake). The >> recommended way to achieve a few stemless notes (at least when I learned >> how to do it) was to use the custom stem tool, and apply an empty stem. >> >> ns >> >> ___ >> Finale mailing list >> Finale@shsu.edu >> http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] note heads
Stems are checked, but they are invisible. Thank you. Harold At 10:06 -0700 20/03/09, Richard Yates wrote: > If I had been making such a file I would have simply unchecked "stems" in >"display items" in the "staff attributes". > >> > Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >> >> In some [files] I removed the stems on quarter and half notes, >> >> leaving only the note heads. I opened one of these files >> yesterday to >> >> save as something else and tried to put the stems back, but could >> >> not. I don't remember how I removed them. > > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] note heads
Years ago I wrote some examples in Finale, for my students. In some of them I removed the stems on quarter and half notes, leaving only the note heads. I opened one of these files yesterday to save as something else and tried to put the stems back, but could not. I don't remember how I removed them. I thought I should try the Special Tools box. When I choose the toll that makes the stem longer or shorter, two square boxes appear next to the note heads. I figured that if I dragged them up or down, the stem would reappear, but no, they didn't. Please help. FinMac 2008 Thank you Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Default document
How did you do that? The help folder contains a large number of .htm and image files. Is there a User Manual in pdf separate from the help system? I would like to do the same. That would be great. Harold At 12:35 -0400 15/03/09, Bob Morabito wrote: >Yes, but I did it outside of Finale-- >I keep a copy of the User manual separate from Finale, and typed it in the >"Find" box, in Acrobat. > >Bob >On Mar 15, 2009, at 12:17 PM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >>Thanks. Did you get to page 403 by typing "Default Document" in the search >>field? >>Harold >> >> >>At 11:28 -0400 15/03/09, Bob Morabito wrote: >>>Hi Harold- >>>Is this it? >>> >>>Bob >>> >>>p 403, Under "Launch Window" >>> >>>* Default Document. Choose this option to open a new default document. >>>Finale's default doc ument, >>>named "Maestro Font Default.ftm" and located in the Component Files folder, >>>is a sin gle staff >>>document with 31 measures. >>> >>>On Mar 15, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>Does the Finale Help File (FinMac, 2008) tells in what folder a default >>>>document should be saved? I know it is in the Component Files folder, but >>>>does the manual explain that? Where? Looking up "Default Document" I got >>>>the idea that it could be anywhere, since it says nothing about it. >>>> >>>>Harold >>>>___ >>>>Finale mailing list >>>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >>> >>>___ >>>Finale mailing list >>>Finale@shsu.edu >>>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale >> >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Default document
Thanks. Did you get to page 403 by typing "Default Document" in the search field? Harold At 11:28 -0400 15/03/09, Bob Morabito wrote: >Hi Harold- >Is this it? > >Bob > >p 403, Under "Launch Window" > >* Default Document. Choose this option to open a new default document. >Finale's default doc ument, >named "Maestro Font Default.ftm" and located in the Component Files folder, is >a sin gle staff >document with 31 measures. > >On Mar 15, 2009, at 10:01 AM, Haroldo Mauro Jr. wrote: > >> >>Does the Finale Help File (FinMac, 2008) tells in what folder a default >>document should be saved? I know it is in the Component Files folder, but >>does the manual explain that? Where? Looking up "Default Document" I got the >>idea that it could be anywhere, since it says nothing about it. >> >>Harold >>___ >>Finale mailing list >>Finale@shsu.edu >>http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > >___ >Finale mailing list >Finale@shsu.edu >http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Default document
Does the Finale Help File (FinMac, 2008) tells in what folder a default document should be saved? I know it is in the Component Files folder, but does the manual explain that? Where? Looking up "Default Document" I got the idea that it could be anywhere, since it says nothing about it. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Apple Works (was Finale 4-Day Super Sale)
At 10:59 +0100 14/01/09, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >On 14.01.2009 Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: >>It's worth keeping your AW intact in my experience. >> >>Pages won't necessarily open them I've found. > >Will AW run on an Intel Mac? > >Johannes It does on mine. Macbook 2.4 Intel Core 2 Duo. Harold ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] laser printer
At 13:45 -0700 08/01/09, Brian Appleby wrote: >I am in the market for a new black and white laser printer. Need 1200 dpi. >Have always used HP, but open to others. Can anyone recommend based on recent >purchase? Quality probably more important than price, within reason. Mac >user, need network capability. Good paper handling a priority. > >Thanks. I have a Brother HL-1470N and I'm happy with it. It's over 5 years old though. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
