[Fink-users] (no subject)
Apple's X11.app seems to be working for me. I used FinkCommander to remove xfree-rootless and shlibs threaded, force removed base, and removed base shlibs. I then installed both Apple's users X11 and the SDK (Safari makes that so easy with it's automatic decompress/mount/install). I also installed system-xfree without a problem. It's working peachy-keen and X11 is so fast and smooth now. :-) One problem I noticed though, is that the path in the xterm in X11.app when using quartz-wm as the window manager doesn't have /sw in the path anymore. My .xinitrc wasn't written over, whether or not I chose the option for it to when I installed X11.app. I have source /sw/bin/init.sh in my .xinitrc file along with exec quartz-wm, but my path is now: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/thom:/usr/X11R6/bin I have no idea why the source doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas how I can get the path to set properly again? -- Thom --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] how to reset path in Apple's X11.app?
Apple's X11.app seems to be working for me. I used FinkCommander to remove xfree-rootless and shlibs threaded, force removed base, and removed base shlibs. I then installed both Apple's users X11 and the SDK (Safari makes that so easy with it's automatic decompress/mount/install). I also installed system-xfree without a problem. It's working peachy-keen and X11 is so fast and smooth now. :-) One problem I noticed though, is that the path in the xterm in X11.app when using quartz-wm as the window manager doesn't have /sw in the path anymore. My .xinitrc wasn't written over, whether or not I chose the option for it to when I installed X11.app. I have source /sw/bin/init.sh in my .xinitrc file along with exec quartz-wm, but my path is now: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/thom:/usr/X11R6/bin I have no idea why the source doesn't seem to be working. Any ideas how I can get the path to set properly again? -- Thom --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] how to reset path in Apple's X11.app?
Thom Peters II wrote: [] PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/thom:/usr/X11R6/bin I have no idea why the source doesn't seem to be working. This is one of the (probably still quite numerous) bugs of this public beta. They start the xterm before reading .xinitrc. Any ideas how I can get the path to set properly again? I would kill this xterm immediately. It has not even scroll bars. Start a decent one from your .xinitrc (or from a Termial.app command line). This will then have the right path. -- Martin --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Flabbergasted and Confused but LAUGHING AT TENON(and XonX)
lenny bruce wrote: No longer will Mac OS X suffer the handicap of being the only platform where you have to pay extra to get Hardware OpenGL Support in XFree86. Apple released the FULL FREE VERSION of XFree86 to the public... Erm, its a public beta. What makes you think Apple won't find some way of charging for this in the future? A --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
Hello, I'm using CDAT on my machine. So I've installed the multi-threaded of the X11 package proposed by Fink. I'd loved to swithc to th Apple X11, but is it multi-threaded ? Will it works with CDAT ? Anybody knows about that ? Thnak you Olivier -- / Olivier MARTI mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ |Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l'Environnement | | Tel: +33 1 69 08 77 27 Fax: +33 1 69 08 77 16 | | | | Ce câble et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et ne | | peuvent être utilisés que par le(s) destinataire(s)| | | | This e-mail and any attachements are confidential and may not | |be used by anyone but the original intended recipient(s).| | | \http://www.ipsl.jussieu.fr/~omamce / --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 10:16 PM, S Woodside wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Heidi Shah wrote: PS - Really hoping this doesn't signal the gradual end of Fink. Why would it? Apple's hardly made a we'll port everything indication today. But having them do X11 is logical because, heck, you need it for everything else (GUI). I think it's to appease makers of commercial unix software--like Mathworks. Matlab uses X11 for display. Also, we know that Apple is skittish about GPL'ed software--which happens to be fink's speciality. Jeremy I'll be testing out Matlab this week with the new X11. Wish me luck... -- --- Harry Erwin, PhD, Senior Lecturer of Computing, University of Sunderland. Computational neuroscientist modeling bat bioacoustics and behavior. http://www.cet.sunderland.ac.uk/~cs0her/index.html --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Different Darwins (was: What do you guys make of this?)
GNU-Darwin != Apple's darwin. GNU-Darwin is a fork of Apple's darwin, and is in no way related to darwin or opendarwin, except for having the same ancestral codebase. That's where things get confusing. Anyone care to explain the differences, or possibly absence thereof, between these three? Sebastian -- Sebastian Flothow [EMAIL PROTECTED] #include stddisclaimer.h --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 and fink: problems installing system-xfree
Thanks a lot! The problem was that 'fink selfupdate-cvs' didn't see the new system-xfree86-4.2-3, even after repeatedly rebuilding the index. I had to manually erase the deb file for system-xfree86-4.2-2, and then rebuild the index. After that, I succesfully upgraded to system-xfree86-4.2-3. Thanks, Artemio On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 01:49 AM, Benjamin Reed wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 07:24 PM, Artemio Gonzalez-Lopez wrote: Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-2 Could anybody suggest how to proceed? Yes, you need 4.2.1-3 Do a 'fink selfupdate-cvs' and try again. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote: I can confirm that it doesn't in any way interfere with my already fink-installed xfree86/XDarwin stuff. I removed nothing, and installed without adding the X11 config (the default, as Kow pointed out). Actually, it does interfere with them 100%. If you didn't remove the fink versions first, the Apple installer wrote over all your fink x11 packages with its own versions. You need to force remove the fink packages and install system-xfree86. But, the force removal will remove the apple versions now, because you didn't remove the fink versions first. Oh I see, I misunderstood the earlier postings on not installing the X11 config -- thought I was just getting the XDarwin.app equivalent. If you do remove all the fink xfree86 stuff, do you then have to install the Apple X11 config part as well? And another question...anyone know how to run both a rooted and rootless X at the same time? i.e. both XDarwin (rooted) and Apple's X11 (which is only rootless)? I have used multiple virtual desktops for so long I can't work without them, but I would like the graphics speed up for specific apps too. A FAQ explaining how all the bits fit together and what works with what (gives what advantages with what) might be what's needed, since even if you do screw up the installation (like me) it does all seem to work together to a first approximation, presumably because it is mostly the same XFree86 underneath. (And I'm sure I can fix my mess once I understand what I actually want to run...) thanks! -- Viv --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Why is Xine keyed to a specific XFree86 package?
The following 3 packages will be rebuilt: libxine libxine-docs libxine-shlibs The following 4 additional packages will be installed: xfree86-base-threaded xfree86-base-threaded-shlibs xfree86-rootless-threaded xfree86-rootless-threaded-shlibs Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Failed: Dependencies not satisfied I discovered this when I removed the Fink package to install the CVS version. Now I find I still can't resolve this package because I'm using Apple's X11. Why is Xine keyed to a specific XFree86 package? lenny bruceI am not a comedian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Lenny Bruce. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?
On mercredi, jan 8, 2003, at 11:20 Europe/Paris, Harry Erwin wrote: I'll be testing out Matlab this week with the new X11. Wish me luck... In principle it works (which indicates that this is a non-threaded version). But: The result will depend on your video card. I tested it on an iBook (clam shell, fall 2000, ATI Rage video). There it works, and it is amazingly fast. The hardware acceleration is real. opengl info says something about ATI GL libraries. The matlab 3D graphics benchmark is more than 5 times as fast as with the fink xfree86 packages. OTOH, on this G4/733/15TFT, it crashes. opengl info says something about 1.1 nvidia 1.2-8, and then there is a nice Xquartz crash log. The bench command crashes before it comes to 3D graphics. But then X11.app crashes all the time on this machine: When I run kde, it doesn't survive more than 5 seconds of scrolling in menus. -- Martin --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Fink Remove
On Tue, 7 Jan 2003 23:14:13 -0600 Andrew Hartung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 09:45 PM, Kow K wrote: Anyway, if you don't have the package XXX running on your system, you can safely delete .XXX directory with rm -rf XXX. I know, it would just be a nice little feature no to have to go clean up after a remove. Kind of like preference files, not a big deal to do it manually, but just an annoying extra step, especially if the application give the pref file some bizarre name. Too bad Spring Cleaning is such a worthless app. Don't forget that at the core, Unix is a *multi-user*, *networking* operating system. If I log in as root, whose private configuration files should fink remove package remove? If I decide to move an application to another computer and use it there remotely, how ticked off would I be if I removed the application from this computer and my config files disappeared along with it? HTH, Dan -- mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.tombstonezero.net/dan/ An omer is a tenth of an ephah. -- Exodus 16:36. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?
At 10:20 AM + 1/8/03, Harry Erwin wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 10:16 PM, S Woodside wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 04:28 PM, Heidi Shah wrote: PS - Really hoping this doesn't signal the gradual end of Fink. Why would it? Apple's hardly made a we'll port everything indication today. But having them do X11 is logical because, heck, you need it for everything else (GUI). I think it's to appease makers of commercial unix software--like Mathworks. Matlab uses X11 for display. Also, we know that Apple is skittish about GPL'ed software--which happens to be fink's speciality. Jeremy I'll be testing out Matlab this week with the new X11. Wish me luck... As pointed out to me by someone from The Mathworks (on another forum)... Go to... http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/ Look closely at the screenshot. Notice which program is running? Look at the dock. Notice the icon with the 3-D Graphic? Ken P. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
Olivier: No, Apple's X11 is not threaded. So you must stick with your fink installation. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post you can install pieces of Apple's X11 over you fink xfree86 and it works (at least for me). You can extract those files with Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/). -Jeff On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Olivier Marti wrote: Hello, I'm using CDAT on my machine. So I've installed the multi-threaded of the X11 package proposed by Fink. I'd loved to swithc to th Apple X11, but is it multi-threaded ? Will it works with CDAT ? Anybody knows about that ? Thnak you Olivier -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] starting apples x11 from console
hi all, I just tried to start apple's X11 from darwin, after having logged in via console.. and unfortunately this didn't work. Is this meant to be like this or did I do something wrong? I tried (like I usually did): % startx and other variations of it. I also tried (just out of curiosity) open -a /Applications/X11.app/ all of the mentioned tried to start the xfree-server, but none of them could find a display.. (i think that was the problem...) any ideas or help? cheers alex --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Copying between X and OS X environments?
Option-clicking (i.e. middle-clicking) pastes as usual. On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 00:17, John Hurst wrote: G'day Ben, On Tue, 07 Jan 2003 20:57:01 -0800, Ben Hines wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:24 PM, Wolfgang Rumpf wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Is there any way to get common clipboard functionality between, say, Microsoft Word (or any other OS X application) and an X app? For example, I want to copy an image from GIMP and paste it directly into Word - or copy an image from OpenOffice and paste it into GraphicConverter. Is there a way to enable this? Works out of the box with the new Apple X11. (for text, at least, dunno about pictures) command-C to copy in X, and control-v to paste. (strange, yes, control to paste) Funny. Using the new X11, I can copy OK (either command-C or the edit pull-down), but pasting doesn't work either way: control-V or command-V. The paste pull-down is greyed out. -- --John Hurst -- Associate Dean (Teaching), Faculty of Information Technology -- Assoc Prof, School of Computer Science and Software Engineering --rm G23, Building 63 --PO Box 26, Monash University, Clayton, VIC 3168~ ~~~#: [EMAIL PROTECTED] +61 3 990 55192_..___ ---@___H__ --(mob 0407 569 041) (fax +61 3 990 55146) |_[_|_[__]_ --http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~ajh oo oo oo O--O--O o=o --free times, see http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~ajh/cgi-bin/appts.cgi --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Different Darwins (was: What do you guys make of this?)
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:48 PM, Sebastian Flothow wrote: GNU-Darwin != Apple's darwin. GNU-Darwin is a fork of Apple's darwin, and is in no way related to darwin or opendarwin, except for having the same ancestral codebase. That's where things get confusing. Anyone care to explain the differences, or possibly absence thereof, between these three? Darwin: Apple's Darwin codebase, ie, the code that is the base of MacOSX. GNU-Darwin: Some GNU peoples' fork of the Darwin codebase -- an attempt to make a GNU-like operating system like Linux out of the Darwin base. (they replace many of Darwin's BSD-ish userland tools with their GNU equivalents) OpenDarwin: An officially unofficial project from Apple to aid in making Darwin more accessible to the open-source community. Since you need special access to commit to Apple's official Darwin, OpenDarwin exists for a larger user base to have access to getting changes back into Darwin proper. Think of it as a growing ground for new ideas for Darwin development, and a filter to get changes from the community back into Apple's Darwin by way of a core set of developers that have access to the official tree. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Copy/paste between X/OS X
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yah, with Apple's X11 I can cut/paste text fine, but not images... - - R. Wolfgang Rumpf, Ph.D. Bioinformaticist Director of Product Development Rescentris, Ltd. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQE+HDDgJtI+DZudABYRAtMsAJ9si9qMhrasWoYzvfMheLBrgK9F6gCeIbhF IKEAV8++kFx7+4Me1bqLOa4= =tOrw -END PGP SIGNATURE- --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Chinese
Can someone make it very clear to me how to submit a suggestion for a package? There are about a half dozen people in the Chinese-Mac community who would love to see xcin and perhaps chinput ported over to Darwin properly (I think it would be relatively painless). I can't figure out how to put a suggestion in the package request tracker. Perhaps this is because I'm not a source forge member? --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] starting apples x11 from console
Alexander: Apple's X11 is rootless only - no fullscreen mode. Therefore it won't work without the Aqua windowserver. -Jeff On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Alexander Meier wrote: hi all, I just tried to start apple's X11 from darwin, after having logged in via console.. and unfortunately this didn't work. Is this meant to be like this or did I do something wrong? I tried (like I usually did): % startx and other variations of it. I also tried (just out of curiosity) open -a /Applications/X11.app/ all of the mentioned tried to start the xfree-server, but none of them could find a display.. (i think that was the problem...) any ideas or help? cheers alex --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] apple's X11 screen starts in menu bar
A while back, XFree86/XDarwin fixed a problem whereby the rootless mode had the zeroeth y-position at the zeroeth screen position, instead of being just below the menu bar. It seems Apple's X11 implementation has this same bug, the only work-around for which is to make sure all geometries have +22 for the y-position and that you don't accidentally move a window too high up so that its title bar is obscured by the menu bar. --Dan. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] apple's X11 screen starts in menu bar
On 1/8/03 9:21 AM, Daniel M. Bikel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A while back, XFree86/XDarwin fixed a problem whereby the rootless mode had the zeroeth y-position at the zeroeth screen position, instead of being just below the menu bar. It seems Apple's X11 implementation has this same bug, the only work-around for which is to make sure all geometries have +22 for the y-position and that you don't accidentally move a window too high up so that its title bar is obscured by the menu bar. I see that with other wm's, but not with the native wm. -- F --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] X11 mailing list
Dear Fink users, Although not mentioned on Apple's website anyplace I can find, the ReadMe.rtf for Apple's X11.app informs us about a mailing list devoted to Apple's X11. You can subscribe to this list at http://www.lists.apple.com/x11-users Questions and comments about how to install X11.app with Fink and how it interacts with other Fink packages are appropriate for the fink-users list. However, comments about X11.app itself -- the missing threaded support, the problems with window focus, difficulties running as a different user -- should probably be directed to the Apple list instead. Hopefully, the Apple engineers who are bringing us X11.app and still working to get it to release shape will be monitoring that other list. -- Dave --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] emacs and Apple's X11
Ettore Aldrovandi writes: How about (setq mac-command-key-is-meta nil) in .emacs? Nope, doesn't seem work with the emacs21 build. Standard disclaimer applies: I haven't tried this. It happens to be the standard recommendation for those who whant the command key back when they run _carbon_ emacs. -- Viktor Haag : Software Information Design : Research In Motion +--+ The only originality the movie brings to this formula is to make it incomprehensible, through the lurching incompetence of its story structure. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Paste in Apple's X11 with Microsoft Intellipoint mice
This may be useful for others unable to paste in Apple's new X11. You need to turn off Intellipoint functionality for X11 in the Microsoft Mouse PreferencePane. Make sure X11 isn't running when you make the change, otherwise Microsoft Mouse hangs. Hope this helps, Zac --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Copying between X and OS X environments?
Ben Hines writes: [snip about copy/paste] Works out of the box with the new Apple X11. (for text, at least, dunno about pictures) command-C to copy in X, and control-v to paste. (strange, yes, control to paste) Copy/paste seems to work a little differently with Emacs. Emacs has access to the OSX clipboard through 'CTRL-y' (i.e. yank), but the X11 menu bar does not show a paste command available when there's something copied onto the clipboard. When copying from Emacs, you *need* to use the X11 menu bar Copy. Select the bit in Emacs using the mouse (not Emacs' own method of placing stuff in the cut-buffer), use X11 menu Copy, and then paste the scrap elsewhere (frex in Apple's Terminal window, which is what I used to test this out). With the standard, old, slow xfree, you can use autocutsel. fink install autocutsel. I was never able to get this to work with Emacs: I think I ended up using pbcopy and pbpaste instead... -- Viktor Haag : Software Information Design : Research In Motion +--+ [This] is a two-hour movie squeezed into three hours about how the Japanese staged a surprise attack on an American love triangle. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] X11 from Apple.com alongside XDarwin
BABA Yoshihiko wrote: Hisashi T Fujinaka wrote: The questions I've seen that are overly asked are incredibly simple, like is it working, or is system-xfree86 working? Is Japanese keymap working? :-p OK, so we now have 4 (count'em, FOUR) different questions (considering mine regarding the portuguese keymap). Seems like a good starting point for a FAQ. :) R. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
Le 8/01/03 14:18, « Jeff Whitaker » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Olivier: No, Apple's X11 is not threaded. So you must stick with your fink installation. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post you can install pieces of Apple's X11 over you fink xfree86 and it works (at least for me). You can extract those files with Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/). Ok, I'v find the post in the archives of fink-devel : Apple's X11 will work with fink xfree86-4.2.1.1 on 10.2.3. I tested this by installing xfree86-base, xfree86-rootless (and shlibs), then copying over /Applications/X11.app, /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz, /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib from an Apple X11 installation. Double click on the X11 icon in /Applications, and voila, quartz-wm fires up. Not as fast as running the full Apple installation though, but I suspect once xfree86 4.3 is released there won't be a noticeable difference. Would be nice if someone would package up just those files from Apple's X11 , as alternative to Oroborus X. Will this partial installation give us the full OpenGL provided by Apple X11, or not ? Do you know that ? Olivier -- / Olivier MARTI mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ |Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l'Environnement | | Tel: +33 1 69 08 77 27 Fax: +33 1 69 08 77 16 | | | | Ce câble et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et ne | | peuvent être utilisés que par le(s) destinataire(s)| | | | This e-mail and any attachements are confidential and may not | |be used by anyone but the original intended recipient(s).| | | \http://www.ipsl.jussieu.fr/~omamce / --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] (no subject)
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:40 AM, Thom Peters II wrote: [snip] One problem I noticed though, is that the path in the xterm in X11.app when using quartz-wm as the window manager doesn't have /sw in the path anymore. My .xinitrc wasn't written over, whether or not I chose the option for it to when I installed X11.app. I have source /sw/bin/init.sh in my .xinitrc file along with exec quartz-wm, but my path is now: PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/thom:/usr/X11R6/bin 'source' used in .xinitrc will set up the PATH (and other stuff) for the shell that runs the commands in that file. However, when 'xterm' is run, it is giving you a new shell, and that shell's startup procedure dictates how PATH gets set up. You'll have to look to the shell that 'xterm' uses (which I assume will be your default) and make sure that your startup files for that shell are set up for the way 'xterm' (or '.xinitrc') uses the shell. For example, is the shell started as a login shell? Whether the shell is started as a login shell dictates which of the possible startup files it looks at. Hope that helps. Check the man page for xterm and your shell. FWIW, I installed and ran Apple's X11 without problem - the xterm has the correct PATH as set up in (for me) .bashrc. I build the PATH from scratch in that file, though. Regards, Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large * Institute for General Semantics|Men are from Earth. |Women are from Earth. | Deal with it. *--*---* --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
I followed the instructions on installing Apples X11 as best I could give my circumstances. This is on my powerbook (no mouse hooked up at the moment) December 2002 tools, recent failed attempts to update everything, and following the instructions to install as spelled out on the fink web sited. (dpkg to force remove my xfree86, install the SDK and X11 user, fink selfupdate-cvs, etc.) I had been using the threaded versions of xfree86, so I'm sure I have some application issues. I also seem to be in the middle of an unsuccessful attempt to update KDE and I'm not even sure if that is relevant anymore. I need a little help to answer the following questions: 1. How to I remove/replace any apps that depended on threaded with ones that don't? What window manager options do I have? I was using KDE before. As my KDE set up seems slightly screwed anyhow and I have a dependency problem that is preventing me from updating. But if I can't use it with Apples X11 then I want to remove it - rather than fix it. Unpacking replacement kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-ssl-dev: kdelibs3-ssl-dev depends on kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3-ssl on system is 3.0.7-4. dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: [blah blah blah] 2. Can I use the KDE setup? Not required for what I want. How do I start the quartz-wm. Without an .xinitrc I just get TWM and nothing shows up as a running app in the top window bar. When I run startx and exit out of the console window in TWM everything closes anyhow. 3. How can I get an X app icon back in Applications and in the Dock. I don't think I should have to run startx from the terminal. Here is what happens with startx. [broomstick:~] josh% startx XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 3 September 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Darwin OSVendor Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root PseudoramiX screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0). PseudoramiX screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0). [DRI] screen 0 installation complete Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0) cat: /Users/josh/.Xauthority: No such file or directory The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Quitting XDarwin... -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] how to reset path in Apple's X11.app?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 01:04 AM, Martin Costabel wrote: Thom Peters II wrote: [] PATH=/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/sbin:/Users/thom:/usr/X11R6/bin I have no idea why the source doesn't seem to be working. This is one of the (probably still quite numerous) bugs of this public beta. They start the xterm before reading .xinitrc. Any ideas how I can get the path to set properly again? I would kill this xterm immediately. It has not even scroll bars. Start a decent one from your .xinitrc (or from a Termial.app command line). This will then have the right path. You can always add scrollbars with (using a 1-button mouse) CTRL-OPTION-CLICK, which gets you a VT options pop-up menu. No need to resort to violence :-}. Regards, Justin -- /~\ The ASCII Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-at-Large \ / Ribbon Campaign X Help cure HTML Email / \ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
Le 8/01/03 14:18, « Jeff Whitaker » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Olivier: No, Apple's X11 is not threaded. So you must stick with your fink installation. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post you can install pieces of Apple's X11 over you fink xfree86 and it works (at least for me). You can extract those files with Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/). -Jeff Jeff, Pacifist says it can not extract from mpkg packages. And the Apple X11 is given aas an mpkg !!! I'm puzzled ... Olivier -- / Olivier MARTI mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ |Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l'Environnement | | Tel: +33 1 69 08 77 27 Fax: +33 1 69 08 77 16 | | | | Ce câble et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et ne | | peuvent être utilisés que par le(s) destinataire(s)| | | | This e-mail and any attachements are confidential and may not | |be used by anyone but the original intended recipient(s).| | | \http://www.ipsl.jussieu.fr/~omamce / --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 11:29, Josh Kuperman wrote: I followed the instructions on installing Apples X11 as best I could give my circumstances. This is on my powerbook (no mouse hooked up at the moment) December 2002 tools, recent failed attempts to update everything, and following the instructions to install as spelled out on the fink web sited. (dpkg to force remove my xfree86, install the SDK and X11 user, fink selfupdate-cvs, etc.) I had been using the threaded versions of xfree86, so I'm sure I have some application issues. I also seem to be in the middle of an unsuccessful attempt to update KDE and I'm not even sure if that is relevant anymore. I need a little help to answer the following questions: 1. How to I remove/replace any apps that depended on threaded with ones that don't? What window manager options do I have? I was using KDE before. As my KDE set up seems slightly screwed anyhow and I have a dependency problem that is preventing me from updating. But if I can't use it with Apples X11 then I want to remove it - rather than fix it. KDE works OK--I built some components against the Apple X and it looks fine. Unpacking replacement kdelibs3-ssl-dev ... dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of kdelibs3-ssl-dev: kdelibs3-ssl-dev depends on kdelibs3-ssl (= 3.1-1); however: Version of kdelibs3-ssl on system is 3.0.7-4. dpkg: error processing kdelibs3-ssl-dev (--install): dependency problems - leaving unconfigured Errors were encountered while processing: This happened to me several times, too. I just kept doing update-alls until all the packages got installed. [blah blah blah] 2. Can I use the KDE setup? Not required for what I want. How do I start the quartz-wm. Without an .xinitrc I just get TWM and nothing shows up as a running app in the top window bar. When I run startx and exit out of the console window in TWM everything closes anyhow. What do you mean by use the KDE setup? In your .xinitrc you should call quartz-wm instead of twm, if you want to run Apple X. One thing to note is that there's no fullscreen mode--rootless only. 3. How can I get an X app icon back in Applications and in the Dock. I don't think I should have to run startx from the terminal. There's an app called X11, which is what you get instead of XDarwin. Here is what happens with startx. [broomstick:~] josh% startx XFree86 Version 4.2.1 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6600) Release Date: 3 September 2002 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your hardware is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: Darwin OSVendor Using keymapping provided in /System/Library/Keyboards/USA.keymapping. _XSERVTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.X11-unix should be set to root PseudoramiX screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0). PseudoramiX screen 0 placed at X11 coordinate (0,0). [DRI] screen 0 installation complete Screen 0 added: 1024x768 @ (0,0) cat: /Users/josh/.Xauthority: No such file or directory Try 'touch /Users/josh/.Xauthority' to create this file. The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server The XKEYBOARD keymap compiler (xkbcomp) reports: Error:Can't find file unknown for geometry include Exiting Abandoning geometry file (null) Errors from xkbcomp are not fatal to the X server waiting for X server to shut down X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). Quitting XDarwin... -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
I used a cruder method: I initially had Apple X installed. I then made a tarball with absolute links (using the -P option) containing all of the relevant trees/files. I then removed the Apple X11, and installed fink's threaded X. I then untarred my tarball. On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 12:07, Olivier Marti wrote: Le 8/01/03 14:18, « Jeff Whitaker » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Olivier: No, Apple's X11 is not threaded. So you must stick with your fink installation. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post you can install pieces of Apple's X11 over you fink xfree86 and it works (at least for me). You can extract those files with Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/). -Jeff Jeff, Pacifist says it can not extract from mpkg packages. And the Apple X11 is given aas an mpkg !!! I'm puzzled ... Olivier -- / Olivier MARTI mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] \ |Laboratoire des Sciences du Climat et de l'Environnement | | Tel: +33 1 69 08 77 27 Fax: +33 1 69 08 77 16 | | | | Ce câble et toutes les pièces jointes sont confidentiels et ne | | peuvent être utilisés que par le(s) destinataire(s)| | | | This e-mail and any attachements are confidential and may not | |be used by anyone but the original intended recipient(s).| | | \http://www.ipsl.jussieu.fr/~omamce / --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple X11 : multi-threaded ?
Olivier: Right click on the .mpkg, navigate to the .pkg and use the contextual menu to open with Pacifist. And to answer your other question, no I don't think you will get the full benefit of the new openGL (although you probably will when Xfree86 4.3 is released). -Jeff On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Olivier Marti wrote: Le 8/01/03 14:18, « Jeff Whitaker » [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Olivier: No, Apple's X11 is not threaded. So you must stick with your fink installation. However, as I mentioned in my earlier post you can install pieces of Apple's X11 over you fink xfree86 and it works (at least for me). You can extract those files with Pacifist (http://www.charlessoft.com/). -Jeff Jeff, Pacifist says it can not extract from mpkg packages. And the Apple X11 is given aas an mpkg !!! I'm puzzled ... Olivier -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X
Jeff Whitaker had an earlier post about this. Quoting him: Apple's X11 will work with fink xfree86-4.2.1.1 on 10.2.3. I tested this by installing xfree86-base, xfree86-rootless (and shlibs), then copying over /Applications/X11.app, /usr/X11R6/bin/Xquartz, /usr/X11R6/bin/quartz-wm and /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib from an Apple X11 installation. Double click on the X11 icon in /Applications, and voila, quartz-wm fires up. Not as fast as running the full Apple installation though, but I suspect once xfree86 4.3 is released there won't be a noticeable difference. Would be nice if someone would package up just those files from Apple's X11 , as alternative to Oroborus X. You'd need to do this because the Apple X11 doesn't have a rooted server. Once you have such a setup, then you'll want to do defaults write org.xfree86.XDarwin Display 1 in a terminal window. This sets the default display at 1 when you run XDarwin.app. Then you can start Apple's X11 server from its icon. Change your window manager by editing .xinitrc, and then run XDarwin from its icon. This was the simplest way I could think of to do it. I tried using xinit, but it killed the Apple X11 session on display 0 . It's kind of a pain, but does work. I've actually got Apple X11 on display 0, OroborOSX on display 1 and a fullscreen KDE session on display 2 right now. On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 06:45, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote: On Tue, 7 Jan 2003, Ben Hines wrote: On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote: I can confirm that it doesn't in any way interfere with my already fink-installed xfree86/XDarwin stuff. I removed nothing, and installed without adding the X11 config (the default, as Kow pointed out). Actually, it does interfere with them 100%. If you didn't remove the fink versions first, the Apple installer wrote over all your fink x11 packages with its own versions. You need to force remove the fink packages and install system-xfree86. But, the force removal will remove the apple versions now, because you didn't remove the fink versions first. Oh I see, I misunderstood the earlier postings on not installing the X11 config -- thought I was just getting the XDarwin.app equivalent. If you do remove all the fink xfree86 stuff, do you then have to install the Apple X11 config part as well? And another question...anyone know how to run both a rooted and rootless X at the same time? i.e. both XDarwin (rooted) and Apple's X11 (which is only rootless)? I have used multiple virtual desktops for so long I can't work without them, but I would like the graphics speed up for specific apps too. A FAQ explaining how all the bits fit together and what works with what (gives what advantages with what) might be what's needed, since even if you do screw up the installation (like me) it does all seem to work together to a first approximation, presumably because it is mostly the same XFree86 underneath. (And I'm sure I can fix my mess once I understand what I actually want to run...) thanks! -- Viv --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Different Darwins (was: What do you guys make of this?)
On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 05:48 PM, Sebastian Flothow wrote: GNU-Darwin != Apple's darwin. GNU-Darwin is a fork of Apple's darwin, and is in no way related to darwin or opendarwin, except for having the same ancestral codebase. That's where things get confusing. Anyone care to explain the differences, or possibly absence thereof, between these three? I find it kind of understand the GNU/Darwin pages because they're so belligerent, but AFAICT they want to make a standalone OS that contains only OSS components (maybe even with code available for everything). Simon --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 15:46:28 -0800 (PST) From: Vivien Mary Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hmmm, try the effect of running fvwm with 6 virtual screens (I usually run rooted) on top of apple's rootless-only X11. Yes, you get 6 virtual screens, all decorated with the same non-X stuff you are running!! Pretty wild, but not what I optimally want...unless there is a way to unstick the non-X stuff and populate it sensibly around the 6 desktops. Since you seem to use X similarly to the way I do (e.g. fvwm with 6 virtual screens, etc), I'll take this opportunity to ask if anyone knows the answer to what I'm interested. 1) does Apple's new XonX run rooted as well as rootless? 2) does it take more advantage (rooted) of the hardware? (Certain things - scrolling, moving windows - are very slow on my ibook for example.) Hal --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] how to reset path in Apple's X11.app?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 08:30 AM, Justin C. Walker wrote: I would kill this xterm immediately. It has not even scroll bars. Start a decent one from your .xinitrc (or from a Termial.app command line). This will then have the right path. You can always add scrollbars with (using a 1-button mouse) CTRL-OPTION-CLICK, which gets you a VT options pop-up menu. No need to resort to violence :-}. I didn't know this. Cool. (BTW, Option-Click gives Main Options here.) Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 11:15 AM, Hal Sadofsky wrote: 1) does Apple's new XonX run rooted as well as rootless? No. 2) does it take more advantage (rooted) of the hardware? (Certain things - scrolling, moving windows - are very slow on my ibook for example.) It is always in rootless mode, but it is all quartz accelerated and super fast. Really, really fast. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X
On Wed, 8 Jan 2003, Hal Sadofsky wrote: 1) does Apple's new XonX run rooted as well as rootless? No. -Jeff -- Jeffrey S. Whitaker Phone : (303)497-6313 NOAA/OAR/CDC R/CDC1FAX : (303)497-6449 325 BroadwayWeb : http://www.cdc.noaa.gov/~jsw Boulder, CO, USA 80305-3328 Office: Skaggs Research Cntr 1D-124 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Chinese
Le mercredi, 8 jan 2003, à 15:17 Europe/Paris, Jason Cox a écrit : Can someone make it very clear to me how to submit a suggestion for a package? There are about a half dozen people in the Chinese-Mac community who would love to see xcin and perhaps chinput ported over to Darwin properly (I think it would be relatively painless). I can't figure out how to put a suggestion in the package request tracker. Perhaps this is because I'm not a source forge member? yes. Because when you're a member we can get back to you, every update to your request item is mailed to you. -- zauc --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:33:18PM -0500, Alexander Hansen wrote: On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 11:29, Josh Kuperman wrote: [snip] KDE works OK--I built some components against the Apple X and it looks fine. Well then wouldn't I have to remove what I have and reinstall in order for it to use the Apple stuff with the system-xfree86 placeholder. [blah blah blah] What do you mean by use the KDE setup? I meant have kde be the window manager. Though now that I found the X11 app and got it to start up I think I stick with the quartz-wm for a while. In your .xinitrc you should call quartz-wm instead of twm, if you want to run Apple X. I had been taking advantage of some of kde's features and games and its bar and multiple workspaces. I don't know whats available but if X11 apps are using the Aqua interface as they seem to I might be all set.. My current .xinitrc seems to consist of this (with all comment lines removed) #!/bin/sh source /sw/bin/init.sh exec quartz-wm Try 'touch /Users/josh/.Xauthority' to create this file. Remarkably, with this file added and starting from the x11 app, now in the doc it seems to work. I will test further. But it's neat - I'm impressed. -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?
Hi Folks: I am worried that once we get addicted, Apple will charge for the new X11. Does anyone know whether this will happen and if so how it might be prevented? The term public beta fuels my paranoia. Bill --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wed, 2003-01-08 at 15:10, Josh Kuperman wrote: snip I meant have kde be the window manager. Though now that I found the X11 app and got it to start up I think I stick with the quartz-wm for a while. You can indeed use KDE, too. -- Alexander K. Hansen Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center Levitated Dipole Experiment 175 Albany Street, NW17-219 Cambridge, MA 02139-4213 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 or what have I screwed up
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:10 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: I had been taking advantage of some of kde's features and games and its bar and multiple workspaces. I don't know whats available but if X11 apps are using the Aqua interface as they seem to I might be all set.. My current .xinitrc seems to consist of this (with all comment lines removed) #!/bin/sh source /sw/bin/init.sh exec quartz-wm I tried to exec startkde instead of exec quartz-wm. This went half way thru (I saw KDE desktop), but died out eventually. Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Printing from KDE 3.1-3
The combination of the new improved KDE 3.1 and Apple's new X11 is amazing; speeds have gone from painfully slow to delightfully quick. I would love to be able to print from KDE programs. Printing from Kword or Kate fails. KDE CUPS recognises both my HP Laserjet/Jetdirect and my USB Epson, as installed by OS X. (Reinstalling the laserjet with OS X Cups results in the same outcome as what print manager creates). When I attempt to print from either printer, the application (Kword or Kate) terminates a.k.a crashes, as a box comes up saying the printer is initializing. The process never moves beyond initializing, however. Trying to print from LPD produces a warning, subtly labelled as Catastrophe! It explains that an error occurred while reading filter description for true. Empty command line received. I did install both CUPS and Ghostscript via OS X. My JetDirect firmware is too old to allow for an IP address to be set, it is connected via Appletalk/AFP. Any assistance would be appreciated. Regards, Mark --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Re: X11 vs. XDarwin packages and config files
So I am trying out this X11.app program from Apple. But since I had an image of my drive made like a week ago, I decided not to uninstall the fink packages and just see what would happen. I have no idea if the installer did clobber my already installed packages, but they still seem to work in XDarwin. What doesn't work is fvwm2 in X11, but besides that, if I switch my .xinitrc file to something reasonable (i.e. exec quartz-wm) I can use X11 with no real problems, and if I switch it back to what it was (exec fvwm2) then everything I had installed works (aterm, emacs, nmapfe, xclock, gimp, fvwm2, gaim, xcalc, etc, etc) and I can use XDarwin without problems. If it had overwritten everything when I installed X11, wouldn't that break my fink stuff? I can list the packages I have that still work if anyone is interested. The other question is: does anyone know where X11's terminal program looks for configuration information? As far as I can tell, none of my normal config files are getting read (I'm using tcsh). Again, I'll send details if anyone is interested. Thanks, -- Erik Message: 6 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 16:17:51 -0800 Subject: Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Vivien Mary Kendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Ben Hines [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 03:46 PM, Vivien Mary Kendon wrote: I can confirm that it doesn't in any way interfere with my already fink-installed xfree86/XDarwin stuff. I removed nothing, and installed without adding the X11 config (the default, as Kow pointed out). Actually, it does interfere with them 100%. If you didn't remove the fink versions first, the Apple installer wrote over all your fink x11 packages with its own versions. You need to force remove the fink packages and install system-xfree86. But, the force removal will remove the apple versions now, because you didn't remove the fink versions first. -Ben --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
Boy, it's hard to catch up with the most recent information since yesterday ... With SDK and User packages, system-xfree86-4.2-3 installed, I'm testing how well the new X11 works. I'm having odd things: 1. /usr/X11R6/etc disappeared 2. Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy 3. KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch, but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get Xquartz.crash.log from Console) Is anybody else suffering this? I changed window mangers, to no avail. Thanks, Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Re: X11 vs. XDarwin packages and config files
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:10 PM, Erik Osheim wrote: The other question is: does anyone know where X11's terminal program looks for configuration information? As far as I can tell, none of my normal config files are getting read (I'm using tcsh). Again, I'll send details if anyone is interested. Which terminal do you mean? The one that launches at startup? Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?
I think apple should be rewarded for making a superior X11 (if it comes to that). I'd certainly pay for a better x11. -sagar On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:20 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks: I am worried that once we get addicted, Apple will charge for the new X11. Does anyone know whether this will happen and if so how it might be prevented? The term public beta fuels my paranoia. Bill --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
before installing the apple versions of X11 did you have xfree86-threaded by chance? [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. /usr/X11R6/etc disappeared 2. Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy 3. KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch, but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get Xquartz.crash.log from Console) -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?
I don't think they will be able to charge for it, maybe if they make an extra lib that isn;t GPL/LGPL'd but if and I repeat if they make a superior one I may concider paying for it, not for the crap they just put out though, although i know it's a beta and has lots of good in it, so I'm waitting for the next beta and will be trying it too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I think apple should be rewarded for making a superior X11 (if it comes to that). I'd certainly pay for a better x11. -sagar -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:17 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: before installing the apple versions of X11 did you have xfree86-threaded by chance? Exactly. I was using threaded version of XDarwin (base and rootless). Is that related to this issue? Kow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: 1. /usr/X11R6/etc disappeared 2. Fonts of KDE apps get jaggy 3. KDE 3.1 apps (Konqueror, Konsole) can't be used. They sure launch, but as soon as I touch their menus, they quit. (and I get Xquartz.crash.log from Console) -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
yes, apples is not thread safe and your kde is compiled against a thread safe lib, one of the reasons i changed back. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Exactly. I was using threaded version of XDarwin (base and rootless). Is that related to this issue? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
Did someone successfully run Bluefish (or any other app) under Apple X11 with a previously xfree86-base/rootless-threaded installation? Are the steps same as with non threaded version of xfree86? Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
or recompile kde against apples libs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version of XDarwin and KDE, right? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: yes, apples is not thread safe and your kde is compiled against a thread safe lib, one of the reasons i changed back. Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version of XDarwin and KDE, right? Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 05:25 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: I don't think they will be able to charge for it, maybe if they make an extra lib that isn;t GPL/LGPL'd but if and I repeat if they make a superior one I may concider paying for it, not for the crap they just put out though, although i know it's a beta and has lots of good in it, so I'm waitting for the next beta and will be trying it too. The can charge for it if they want... First, X's license is not GPL/LGPL, it's essentially a BSD-ish license. Second, open source only covers distribution, not charging. So it's perfectly legal to charge for a GPL program, but if you sell it to someone, you are also required to be able to give the source to that person too. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
For anyone that had the -threaded version installed and has now gone to apple will need to recompile some x11 apps. as the apple X11 is not thread safe. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did someone successfully run Bluefish (or any other app) under Apple X11 with a previously xfree86-base/rootless-threaded installation? Are the steps same as with non threaded version of xfree86? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related to threaded/non-threaded issue? If so, how? Thanks, Kow On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:33 PM, Justin Hallett wrote: or recompile kde against apples libs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version of XDarwin and KDE, right? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
nah, it's prolly just /etc/X11 and just not symlinked [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One more quick question -- why was /usr/X11R6/etc gone? Is this related to threaded/non-threaded issue? If so, how? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
Which leads to one unanswered question. If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what needs to be redone? On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 03:33:21PM -0700, Justin Hallett wrote: or recompile kde against apples libs. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh yeah, that makes sense. So, I need to reinstall unthreaded version of XDarwin and KDE, right? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Josh Kuperman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Will Apple charge us for the X11 stable release?
I wasn't aware of both of these facts, thanks RangerRick. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The can charge for it if they want... First, X's license is not GPL/LGPL, it's essentially a BSD-ish license. Second, open source only covers distribution, not charging. So it's perfectly legal to charge for a GPL program, but if you sell it to someone, you are also required to be able to give the source to that person too. -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
trail and error that is why system-xfree86 does not replace -threaded. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what needs to be redone? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 03:00 PM, Josh Kuperman wrote: Which leads to one unanswered question. If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what needs to be redone? Oh your issue was this one! I couldn't follow the thread you started, cuz the list has been too hot since yesterday. Seems like this one is tough ... Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] KDE apps crash on Apple X11
the best thing is for system-xfree86 to check if it's replacing xfree86-threaded and if get a list from fink of things that depends on x11 then test all those pkgs for the presence of the thread safe symbols using nm, then offer to continue and recompile them all or to cancel and continue with xfree86-threaded, but I'm not gonne make that sort of script :P I'm just gonna stay with the -threaded version my self. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Which leads to one unanswered question. If you had threaded apps installed, the force remove of the threaded xfree86 left a lot of dependent stuff unusable because it was compiled against the threaded libraries etc. How does one tell what needs to be redone? Oh your issue was this one! I couldn't follow the thread you started, cuz the list has been too hot since yesterday. Seems like this one is tough ... -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Compiling speex-1.0beta3-1 fails
ahh it's order that is the problem...should have it fixed soon. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: gcc -g -O2 -o .libs/testenc testenc.o -L/sw/lib -L./.libs -lspeex -lm ld: Undefined symbols: _speex_std_char_handler _speex_std_mode_request_handler -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
Great! This worked out for me, too! Thanks a lot! On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 04:41 PM, Douglas Theobald wrote: For the moment, I think this is the best solution: Install the Apple X11. sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_bak sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_bak fink install xfree86-base-threaded fink install xfree86-rootless-threaded cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib For sure, I also added the following symlinks: /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib Apple's X11 should fire up just fine. If you use a .xinitrc, use Apple's window manager quartz-wm, like this on the last line: exec quartz-wm It works for me quite well. You end up with a threaded X windows install with apple's X11. In my case, I wanted to go back to XDarwin, and replaced quartz-wm with wmaker. Note: quartz-wm doesn't run on XDarwin. Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] KDE 3.1 and harmless crash reports
Since I enabled Crash Report option in Console, I ALWAYS get crash logs related to KDE of the following sort, on X11 and XDarwin, but the programs run successfully. Are those errors just harmless? Thanks for your time. Kow konsole_grantpty.crash.log ** Date/Time: 2003-01-05 22:47:29 -0800 OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30) Host: user-10cm2ee.cable.mindspring.com Command:konsole_grantpty PID:25561 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90013d74 in memcmp #1 0x25e8 in main #2 0x2358 in _start (crt.c:267) #3 0x21d8 in start PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x90013d74 srr1: 0xf030vrsave: 0x xer: 0x lr: 0x25e8 ctr: 0x000c mq: 0x r0: 0x000c r1: 0xbe40 r2: 0x25b8 r3: 0x r4: 0x2e19 r5: 0x000c r6: 0xbfbc r7: 0x8fe48550 r8: 0x r9: 0x0073 r10: 0x0010 r11: 0x3098 r12: 0x90013d60 r13: 0x r14: 0x r15: 0x r16: 0x r17: 0x r18: 0x r19: 0x r20: 0x r21: 0x r22: 0x r23: 0x r24: 0x r25: 0x r26: 0xbfa8 r27: 0x000c r28: 0xbfac r29: 0xbfb8 r30: 0x0002 r31: 0x25b8 ** Date/Time: 2003-01-05 22:50:54 -0800 OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30) Host: user-10cm2ee.cable.mindspring.com Command:konsole_grantpty PID:25596 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90013d74 in memcmp #1 0x25e8 in main #2 0x2358 in _start (crt.c:267) #3 0x21d8 in start PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x90013d74 srr1: 0xf030vrsave: 0x xer: 0x lr: 0x25e8 ctr: 0x000c mq: 0x r0: 0x000c r1: 0xbe40 r2: 0x25b8 r3: 0x r4: 0x2e19 r5: 0x000c r6: 0xbfbc r7: 0x8fe48550 r8: 0x r9: 0x0073 r10: 0x0010 r11: 0x3098 r12: 0x90013d60 r13: 0x r14: 0x r15: 0x r16: 0x r17: 0x r18: 0x r19: 0x r20: 0x r21: 0x r22: 0x r23: 0x r24: 0x r25: 0x r26: 0xbfa8 r27: 0x000c r28: 0xbfac r29: 0xbfb8 r30: 0x0002 r31: 0x25b8 ** Date/Time: 2003-01-06 11:48:47 -0800 OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30) Host: crl-25.ucsd.edu Command:konsole_grantpty PID:26002 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90013d74 in memcmp #1 0x25e8 in main #2 0x2358 in _start (crt.c:267) #3 0x21d8 in start PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x90013d74 srr1: 0xf030vrsave: 0x xer: 0x lr: 0x25e8 ctr: 0x000c mq: 0x r0: 0x000c r1: 0xbe40 r2: 0x25b8 r3: 0x r4: 0x2e19 r5: 0x000c r6: 0xbfbc r7: 0x8fe48550 r8: 0x r9: 0x0073 r10: 0x0010 r11: 0x3098 r12: 0x90013d60 r13: 0x r14: 0x r15: 0x r16: 0x r17: 0x r18: 0x r19: 0x r20: 0x r21: 0x r22: 0x r23: 0x r24: 0x r25: 0x r26: 0xbfa8 r27: 0x000c r28: 0xbfac r29: 0xbfb8 r30: 0x0002 r31: 0x25b8 ** Date/Time: 2003-01-06 16:26:00 -0800 OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30) Host: crl-25.ucsd.edu Command:konsole_grantpty PID:26241 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90013d74 in memcmp #1 0x25e8 in main #2 0x2358 in _start (crt.c:267) #3 0x21d8 in start PPC Thread State: srr0: 0x90013d74 srr1: 0xf030vrsave: 0x xer: 0x lr: 0x25e8 ctr: 0x000c mq: 0x r0: 0x000c r1: 0xbe40 r2: 0x25b8 r3: 0x r4: 0x2e19 r5: 0x000c r6: 0xbfbc r7: 0x8fe48550 r8: 0x r9: 0x0073 r10: 0x0010 r11: 0x3098 r12: 0x90013d60 r13: 0x r14: 0x r15: 0x r16: 0x r17: 0x r18: 0x r19: 0x r20: 0x r21: 0x r22: 0x r23: 0x r24: 0x r25: 0x r26: 0xbfa8 r27: 0x000c r28: 0xbfac r29: 0xbfb8 r30: 0x0002 r31: 0x25b8 ** Date/Time: 2003-01-06 18:07:04 -0800 OS Version: 10.2.3 (Build 6G30) Host: crl-25.ucsd.edu Command:konsole_grantpty PID:26452 Exception: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001) Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x Thread 0 Crashed: #0 0x90013d74 in memcmp #1 0x25e8 in main #2 0x2358 in _start (crt.c:267) #3 0x21d8 in start PPC Thread State: srr0:
[Fink-users] Qt compile problem
In doing an update-all, I was asked to satisfy a virtual dependency on qt (below) Information about 2061 packages read in 1 seconds. fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The candidates: (1) qt3: Cross-Platform GUI application framework. (2) qt3-dev: Cross-Platform GUI application framework. Pick one: [1] The following package will be installed or updated: qvcd The following 2 additional packages will be installed: qt3 qt3-dev Do you want to continue? [Y/n] Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11/qt3_3.1.1- 3_darwin-powerpc.deb /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11/qt3-dev_3.1.1- 3_darwin-powerpc.deb Selecting previously deselected package qt3. (Reading database ... 27611 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking qt3 (from .../qt3_3.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Selecting previously deselected package qt3-dev. Unpacking qt3-dev (from .../qt3-dev_3.1.1-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... Setting up qt3 (3.1.1-3) ... Setting up qt3-dev (3.1.1-3) ... rm -rf qvcd-0.21-1 In the configure the process died: checking for libjpeg... -ljpeg checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (= Qt 3.0.3) (library qt-mt) not found. Please check your installation! For more details about this problem, look at the end of config.log. Make sure that you have compiled Qt with thread support! ### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1 Failed: compiling qvcd-0.21-1 failed --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] libgl and one other problem
I noticed that it is recommended to install libgl placeholders in fink. Unfortunately it won't install because it says there is no version. I tried emailing the maintainer but there is no maintainer. So has anyone else had this problem? Maybe someone can fix it? Also a problem I've had for awhile but have been able to work around is the fact that the command fink command is not found in the CLI. I can use finkcommander though to do what I need to do in with fink. Anyways to fix this? Thanks, Eric Wright --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
Problem is that I use daily fink cvs update and I want to do it after X11 installation. So what can I do? An alternative would be to install X11 on another Mac if someone knows a way to update fink via cvs when both mac are linked via a switch to ADSL modem, one via PPPoE the other via DHCP. Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 02:57 Europe/Paris, Kow K a écrit : Great! This worked out for me, too! Thanks a lot! On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 04:41 PM, Douglas Theobald wrote: For the moment, I think this is the best solution: Install the Apple X11. sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_bak sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_bak fink install xfree86-base-threaded fink install xfree86-rootless-threaded cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib For sure, I also added the following symlinks: /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib Apple's X11 should fire up just fine. If you use a .xinitrc, use Apple's window manager quartz-wm, like this on the last line: exec quartz-wm It works for me quite well. You end up with a threaded X windows install with apple's X11. In my case, I wanted to go back to XDarwin, and replaced quartz-wm with wmaker. Note: quartz-wm doesn't run on XDarwin. Kow --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] can't install system-xfree86
well to add to the litany, i can't get system-xfree86 to install. i did a fink selfupdate-cvs, it is trying to install version 4.2-3. here's the output: peter:peter$ sudo fink install system-xfree86 Information about 2071 packages read in 8 seconds. pkg system-xfree86 version ### pkg system-xfree86 version 4.2-3 The following package will be installed or updated: system-xfree86 dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (Reading database ... 16467 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking system-xfree86 (from .../system-xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-3 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] can't install system-xfree86
Do you have XDarwin or X11 already installed on your system? For X11, you need both SDK and Users packages installed. Or is your case different? Kow On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Peter Jaques wrote: well to add to the litany, i can't get system-xfree86 to install. i did a fink selfupdate-cvs, it is trying to install version 4.2-3. here's the output: peter:peter$ sudo fink install system-xfree86 Information about 2071 packages read in 8 seconds. pkg system-xfree86 version ### pkg system-xfree86 version 4.2-3 The following package will be installed or updated: system-xfree86 dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (Reading database ... 16467 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking system-xfree86 (from .../system-xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-3 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] can't install system-xfree86
yup, i installed apple's x11 (after doing a sudo dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-rootless xfree86-rootless-shlibs xfree86-base xfree86-base-shlibs). any ideas? peter On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 01:38 am, Kow K wrote: Do you have XDarwin or X11 already installed on your system? For X11, you need both SDK and Users packages installed. Or is your case different? Kow On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Peter Jaques wrote: well to add to the litany, i can't get system-xfree86 to install. i did a fink selfupdate-cvs, it is trying to install version 4.2-3. here's the output: peter:peter$ sudo fink install system-xfree86 Information about 2071 packages read in 8 seconds. pkg system-xfree86 version ### pkg system-xfree86 version 4.2-3 The following package will be installed or updated: system-xfree86 dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (Reading database ... 16467 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking system-xfree86 (from .../system-xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-3 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Flabbergasted and Confused but LAUGHING AT TENON (and XonX)
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 02:17 AM, Adrian Simmons wrote: lenny bruce wrote: No longer will Mac OS X suffer the handicap of being the only platform where you have to pay extra to get Hardware OpenGL Support in XFree86. Apple released the FULL FREE VERSION of XFree86 to the public... Erm, its a public beta. What makes you think Apple won't find some way of charging for this in the future? No. It's free on every platform. It was payware only on ours (Mac OS X) because of Tenon's criminal racketeering. Apple is giving it away to restore that parity of X11 freedom to our platform. Tenon harmed the Mac OS X platform by driving people away. Why choose Mac if X11 with HW OpenGL is payware when it's free everywhere else? Don't think it's a joke... Wintel took over because the stupid consumer wanted to save FIFTY DOLLARS. They handicapped themselves beyond imagination for a tiny savings. Apple released X11 for Mac OS X to stop the hemorrhaging. I kept seeing all over the net where software companies were advising their customers to avoid the Mac platform because our X11 doesn't have Hardware OpenGL support... we're lesser/deficient. On and on I kept reading ways people were discounting OS X for this reason. Tenon needs to pay a penalty for the damage they did with this criminal racketeering. Okay, Apple pulled the bully off of us... that's great but the bully needs to go to prison now and pay a penalty. lenny bruceI am not a comedian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Lenny Bruce. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] can't install system-xfree86
aww dang, i didn't have the SDK installed. sorry. works now. thanks peter On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 01:38 am, Kow K wrote: Do you have XDarwin or X11 already installed on your system? For X11, you need both SDK and Users packages installed. Or is your case different? Kow On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 10:17 PM, Peter Jaques wrote: well to add to the litany, i can't get system-xfree86 to install. i did a fink selfupdate-cvs, it is trying to install version 4.2-3. here's the output: peter:peter$ sudo fink install system-xfree86 Information about 2071 packages read in 8 seconds. pkg system-xfree86 version ### pkg system-xfree86 version 4.2-3 The following package will be installed or updated: system-xfree86 dpkg -i /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (Reading database ... 16467 files and directories currently installed.) Unpacking system-xfree86 (from .../system-xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb) ... dpkg: error processing /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install): subprocess pre-installation script returned error exit status 1 Errors were encountered while processing: /sw/fink/dists/stable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/x11-system/system- xfree86_4.2-3_darwin-powerpc.deb ### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1 Failed: can't install package system-xfree86-4.2-3 --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
Hello Douglas, As I fear to do a big mess in my installation, could you please be so kind as to tell me the whole process (it's not clear from what I've already read on the list) and fill in the gap between point 5 and n. 1- Currently I have xfree86-base-threaded and xfree86-rootless-threaded. 2 - I always use x rootless. 3 - I've already downloaded X11SDK and X11User from Apple (not installed). 4 - I'm fink selfupdate-cvsing (if I dare say so) right now. 5 - ... n - make x11 directory in my home directory Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 07:27 Europe/Paris, Douglas Theobald a écrit : Easy. Make yourself an X11 directory in your home directory that contains these three X11 files: Xquartz quartz-wm libapplexp.1.0.dylib Then run this script after every CVS update (replace michele with your real home directory name, of course): #!/bin/sh cp /Users/michele/X11/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin cp /Users/michele/X11/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin cp /Users/michele/X11/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.dylib ln -sf /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.dylib ### On 1/8/03 10:52 PM, Michèle Garoche [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit : Problem is that I use daily fink cvs update and I want to do it after X11 installation. So what can I do? An alternative would be to install X11 on another Mac if someone knows a way to update fink via cvs when both mac are linked via a switch to ADSL modem, one via PPPoE the other via DHCP. Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 02:57 Europe/Paris, Kow K a écrit : Great! This worked out for me, too! Thanks a lot! On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 04:41 PM, Douglas Theobald wrote: For the moment, I think this is the best solution: Install the Apple X11. sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_bak sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_bak fink install xfree86-base-threaded fink install xfree86-rootless-threaded cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib For sure, I also added the following symlinks: /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0dylib -- /usr/X11R6/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib Apple's X11 should fire up just fine. If you use a .xinitrc, use Apple's window manager quartz-wm, like this on the last line: exec quartz-wm It works for me quite well. You end up with a threaded X windows install with apple's X11. In my case, I wanted to go back to XDarwin, and replaced quartz-wm with wmaker. Note: quartz-wm doesn't run on XDarwin. Michèle http://micmacfr.homeunix.org/ --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] X11 mailing list
On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 12:20 PM, Martin Costabel wrote: Is this thing alive? I subscribed this morning and sent them a long list of bugs :-) but nothing arrived yet, and my message was rejected as not coming from the right address (although I tried hard to pretend that it was the same as I subscribed from). Oh, it's definitely very alive. I've already sent and received responses on some bugs. I also suggested they get list archives up... :P --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] compile problems with Apple's X11 installed.
hello everybody, and sorry for the cross-posting, but I didn't knew where to ask this question, and I thought it could interest both of lists. So, since i've installed Apple's X11, I cant compile a lot of stuff because of the following errors : ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol _XSendEvent /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib(SendEvent.o) definition of _XSendEvent /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.dylib(SendEvent.o) definition of _XSendEvent ld: warning multiple definitions of symbol __XEventToWire /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib(EvToWire.o) definition of __XEventToWire /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.dylib(EvToWire.o) definition of __XEventToWire ld: /usr/X11R6/lib/libxkbfile.a(xkbtext.o) illegal reference to symbol: _XKeysymToString defined in indirectly referenced dynamic library /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib make[3]: *** [kcm_keyboard.la] Error 1 make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make: *** [all] Error 2 ### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.0.vxfoau failed, exit code 2 Failed: compiling kdebase3-ssl-3.1-1 failed I have thousands of such warnings (multiple defs) while the /usr/X11R6/lib has a lot of symlinks : [8:22:17am] _pejvan_ lib ls -l [...] lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 15 Jan 8 02:19 libGL.1.dylib - libGL.1.2.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 15 Jan 8 02:19 libGL.dylib - libGL.1.2.dylib -rw-r--r--1 root wheel564k Jan 8 02:19 libGLU.1.3.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libGLU.1.dylib - libGLU.1.3.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libGLU.dylib - libGLU.1.3.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libICE.6.dylib - libICE.6.3.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libICE.dylib - libICE.6.3.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 15 Jan 8 02:19 libSM.6.dylib - libSM.6.0.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 15 Jan 8 02:19 libSM.dylib - libSM.6.0.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libX11.6.dylib - libX11.6.2.dylib lrwxr-xr-x1 root wheel 16 Jan 8 02:19 libX11.dylib - libX11.6.2.dylib plus I don't know how to fix that illegal reference error Thanks, Pejvan --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] compile problems with Apple's X11 installed.
add -lX11 to the link line [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: plus I don't know how to fix that illegal reference error -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?
For the moment, I think this is the best solution: Install the Apple X11. sudo mv /usr/X11R6 /usr/X11R6_bak sudo mv /etc/X11 /etc/X11_bak fink install xfree86-base-threaded fink install xfree86-rootless-threaded cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/Xquartz /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/bin/quartz-wm /usr/X11R6/bin cp /usr/X11R6_bak/lib/libapplexp.1.0.dylib /usr/X11R6/lib Apple's X11 should fire up just fine. If you use a .xinitrc, use Apple's window manager quartz-wm, like this on the last line: exec quartz-wm It works for me quite well. You end up with a threaded X windows install with apple's X11. D On 1/8/03 3:44 PM, Justin Hallett [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribed: For anyone that had the -threaded version installed and has now gone to apple will need to recompile some x11 apps. as the apple X11 is not thread safe. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Did someone successfully run Bluefish (or any other app) under Apple X11 with a previously xfree86-base/rootless-threaded installation? Are the steps same as with non threaded version of xfree86? -=[JFH] Justin F. Hallett Systems Analyst -=[JFH] Rendek Communications Inc. -=[JFH] [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
[Fink-users] how to remove CVS XFree86
I too stupidly installed Apple's X11 on top of my XFree86, but I had the CVS version installed and so I couldn't use Fink to remove it. How do I remove the manually-installed XFree86? How do I remove the manually-installed XFree86 without destroying my system? lenny bruceI am not a comedian, [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am Lenny Bruce. --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
Re: [Fink-users] how to remove CVS XFree86
lenny bruce wrote: [] How do I remove the manually-installed XFree86? sudo rm -rf /usr/X11R6/ /etc/X11/ /Applications/XDarwin.app -- Martin --- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: SourceForge Enterprise Edition + IBM + LinuxWorld = Something 2 See! http://www.vasoftware.com ___ Fink-users mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/fink-users
