2009 Eval Entry Packages
This message is from: Jeanne jeann...@frii.com FYI: The 2009 Entry Packages for Fallbrook, Lacrosse, Moses Lake and Herndon Evaluations are all now available on the NFHR website. www.nfhr.com You can download them from either the Evaluation Program page, or the Calendar of Events page. The Canadian Eval Forms are soon to some. Jeanne Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
VA Fjord Eval
This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com I've seen a couple of references to the VA Fjord Eval. Is there one this year? And if so, when and where? Inquiring minds want to know. Thanks. Karen, Northern Virginia _ Looking for a fresh way to share photos? Get the new Windows Live Messenger. http://download.live.com/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
Re: VA Fjord Eval
This message is from: james raabe jwra...@yahoo.com --- On Mon, 4/13/09, Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com wrote: From: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com Subject: VA Fjord Eval To: FjordhorseList List fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Monday, April 13, 2009, 8:23 PM This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com I've seen a couple of references to the VA Fjord Eval. Is there one this year? And if so, when and where? Inquiring minds want to know. In the NFHR looks like it's on Aug. 14 - 15 in Herndon jim Thanks. Karen, Northern Virginia _ Looking for a fresh way to share photos? Get the new Windows Live Messenger. http://download.live.com/ Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
RE: VA Fjord Eval
This message is from: Karen Keith kkke...@hotmail.com Thanks, Jim. I don't know how I missed that. I went looking at the calendar last time I saw the reference and didn't see anything there, but I see it now. Karen, Northern Virginia In the NFHR looks like it's on Aug. 14 - 15 in Herndon jim Important FjordHorse List Links: Subscription Management: http://tinyurl.com/5msa7e FH-L Archives: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw Classified Ads: http://tinyurl.com/5b5g2f
ML Eval, Show,Tico, Thanks!
This message is from: Olivia Farm, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congrats to Tico who was Grand Champion at the Moses Lake Show and Flotren for getting the Versatility Award. Thanks Susan for the congratulations and giving us delusions of grandeur... Although we feel he was quite Grand indeed, Tico was merely the blue ribbon winner of the mature stallion class at the Moses Lake show (there were no championship classes). It was a class of all (NFHR) blue ribbon stallions so we are quite proud of his accomplishment. It was indeed terrific to see Fløtren come out and show what a wonderful performance horse and stallion (all of his offspring at the show did quite well) he is once again. Congratulations to Don and Heather Torgenrud and Tim Jedra on their performance with this magnificent stallion! Of course a giant congratulations and thank you is due to all of the volunteers and participants for making this such a fun, safe, and thoroughly enjoyable event. As the show photographer I got a lot of good photos, a few great ones,and of course some not so good ones in the challenging lighting of the indoor arena. Thanks goodness you can choose to only publish the good ones. Hopefully next year I can get out from behind the camera and pick up the reins. It was wonderful to see so many new faces along with all of the familiar ones (I won't use the word old), people and horses alike. This was true of the evaluation too as about half of the participants were new to the evaluation system. Speaking of the evaluation and as the coordinator of the event, I would personally like to thank all of the volunteers who were nothing short of spectacular in helping make this event possible. Led by Barb Lynch as the technical delegate and with the indispensable help of her husband Fred, Taffy Mercer, David VanHoof, Karl Froelich, and others, the event went quite well and ran fairly smoothly, especially for our first time running with a new staff at a new facility. In the future I think we can improve our scheduling a bit to keep things flowing even smoother, but that was my issue and that's why they pay me the big bucks!:) I would also like to congratulate all of the participants on a job well done in preparing and presenting their horses. Some very nice quality horses were presented for conformation and movement (some from farms and lines that have not previously been well represented in the evaluations) as you will see in the results and many of the performance tests were among the best I've seen. Anyway, the dust hasn't yet settled here at Olivia Farm from last weeks events and we are already changing gears to prepare for the Libby show, so I won't take extra time and spill the beans as to who did what and how at Moses Lake, choosing to leave it up to the owners, handlers, the Fjord Herald, and Fjord News Northwest instead. Anyway, I hope to have some highlight photos posted to the web before too long for all to see. I'll let you know as soon as I do. I hope you all can make it to next year's show and I look forward to seeing some of you at Libby in a week and a half! Mange Takk! Dan Watanabe Olivia Farm, Inc. http://www.oliviafarm.com (509) 258-7348 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
California Aug. 2008 Eval.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Everyone Again I just got back from the Vestlandshest Fjord Club meeting. We need to know how many horses are planning to come to the California-Aug. 2008 Evaluation. We have not talked to the NFHR yet on this because we need to have at least 25 horses. It will be held in Fallbrook, Calif. Not far from Disneyland, Knottsberry Farm and Seaworld. Please let us know as soon as possible so we can start planning and get the Okay from the NFHR. Thank you Katherine Kramer West Coast Fjords Katherine Kramer 23355 Modoc Ct. Perris, CA 92705 phone (951) 657-2505 cell (951) 316-6616 ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
new on list/info on eval.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello I meet two wonderful fjord people in Winona. They live in Colorado. I told them about the list and they would like to be added. Beth and Sandy they also would like to know about the Evaluation you might have in Colorado. Could someone tell them how to get on the list? I don't know how I got on it. Their name are Susan Kelly Hoem and their email is [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thank you Kathy Katherine Kramer Westcoastfjords.com 23355 Modoc Ct Gavilan Hills, CA 92570 951-657-2505 The FjordHorse List archives can be found at: http://tinyurl.com/rcepw
Re: question about eval. discussion
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Eike Schoen-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 3, 2006 3:01 pm Subject: question about eval. discussion This message is from: Eike Schoen-Petersen eike.schoen- [EMAIL PROTECTED] How far would you all think the average interested horse owner would travel to an evaluation? How much does the professional film crew cost vs. an evaluator? Isn´t the answer: more evaluators, more evaluations rather than making movies? Eike I agree more evaluations might be the better route but the practical considerations are sometimes enormous. I will be traveling over 1100 miles one way in October. The only reason that I would consider it at this time for this horse is because I will be going tothe event anyway. However I would NOT do it on a regular basis because of both the expense and the risks to horse and driver. With a couple of horses a year, all profit AND operating expenses for a small breeder could easily be gobbled up with evaluations unless they were restricted to only a few horses- which defeats the purpose of the evaluation. Properly preparing and presenting the horse in an evaluation probably has a significant learning curve, particular if like me the handler is an amateur--- meaning that many horses attend more than one evaluation before attaining the final score. Maybe as a start, and an interim approach, a good, well presented training dvd on how to do it so your horse is shown to his full potential would be invaluable. I would certainly buy it. I think until there are more fjords we will have this problem. We really are still a minority horse population. I own a TB mare that I leased out for breedng to a warmblood, that foal was evaluated as a weanling in a class of 50. My point is that even in rural Idaho there are enough warmbloods to get together a foal evaluation of 50 and required only a 300 mile round trip. I am aware of maybe 15-20 Fjords- All ages, registered and unregistered within a 150 mile radius of my place ( and I own four of them). I think it will be a while before we can realistically host the number and distribution of live evaluations which would make them as available as we would like. So in the meantime, a hybrid approach might be the way to go. I contacted the Vocational College here which has a media department and it could be done for less than $150.00. Not a whole film crew, but an experienced videographer with equipment and editing capability. Kathy in SE Idaho
RE: question about eval. discussion
This message is from: Skeels, Mark A \(GE Healthcare\) [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think the one time production of such a dvd if done professionally, would be worth the value of a couple horses to the future of the breed and a great value to the NFHR. After all it is a one time thing, and the cost could be recouped with the sending out of the video application packet, maybe $100 bucks a horse or something like that. I still don't think some people will go to the evaluations with more evaluators, unless they are maybe within a hundred miles or so. There is more to the question of why people don't go to the evaluations. For me and many others I think it is maybe fear of not knowing what or how to show the horse properly. I think once I was to one to break the ice, it would be easier after that and I would probably go to several. It might also be good for me to go to a mock evaluation if such a thing exists to prep for a official evaluation. Mark Skeels in mild winter Helena Montana,, knock on lenolium. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eike Schoen-Petersen Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:02 PM To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: question about eval. discussion This message is from: Eike Schoen-Petersen [EMAIL PROTECTED] How far would you all think the average interested horse owner would travel to an evaluation? How much does the professional film crew cost vs. an evaluator? Isn´t the answer: more evaluators, more evaluations rather than making movies? In the comparatively crowded and concentrated scenario of central europe we are used to take the stallions several hundred miles to their performance tests. Even with foals we are used to travel 150 miles. I´m setting off for the US (New Mexico), hope the weather is a little nicer than here - we are about to another blast of Siberian perma-frost! Eike
Re: Eval Report-Vestlandshest USA
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I want to take this opportunity also, to thank Phillip Odden and Sophie Fiedler and the others who helped make this evaluation and Fjord Show go as good as it did. It was a pleasure to meet people face to face who I otherwise have only known through this List and e-mails back and forth. It was great meeting all of you and again thank you all so very, very much for all your hard work and support. I also want to thank Hank and Bitten Nors who put so much work into this, as well as the rest of the members there. The horses did really good and it was very intersting to see the different types of Fjords all in one place. It was very interesting to be able to see Dagrun Aarsten's Fjord, Quinn, who is now owned by Jenny Barnes and shown to perfection by her. That was certainly a good match and Jenny really has done a great job with that horse, and she certainly used the tools that Dagrun put into that horse. He is a beautiful horse and a great show horse. How fun to see him in person after reading so much about him when Dagrun first got him. A big congratulations to Dagrun, Jenny and Quinn. (He has a different name now, but I have forgotten what it was.) Again, Phillip and Sophie, - it was great meeting you. Sincerely, Rondi Tyler. So. California.
Eval Report
This message is from: Norsk Wood Works [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from Phillip Odden Having just returned from Sunny California I feel compelled to share some insights from the Fallbrook evaluation that was held last Friday and Saturday. The event was sponsored by the Vestlandshest USA Fjord Horse Club, a relatively new club, with an especially enthusiastic group of members. Since this was their first evaluation many of the folks were not sure what was expected of them and their horses. Certainly many of them looked up the guidelines for an evaluation and the expectations of the animals under the documents section of the NFHR website. But until one has experienced an evaluation many questions can arise. So on the evening before the conformation tests were given there was a mini clinic given by Niels Mortensen together with his son and daughter who are from Denmark. Niels instructed the group on ways to present the horse and in proper ways to walk and trot the horse for the judges. Some of the protocol for Danish evaluations is a bit different than with NFHR evaluations so I helped clarify what our evaluators would be looking for. Niels is a very highly respected evaluator from Denmark for Norwegian Fjord Horses and it was great that he was on hand to witness a NFHR evaluation. However Niels did not score horses in the ring at Fallbrook. Karen Cabic and Karen Maas were the official NFHR evaluators at Fallbrook. We made certain the exhibitors understood that it was important the horses were set up correctly for the judges. I reminded them that their horses should look bright and not fall asleep in the ring. When asked to walk the horse should walk with an energetic stride with good reach in the front, an overstep of the back foot landing in front of the front hoof print, and with good engagement of the hind quarters and top line. Much the same is important in the trot, good reach with the front legs, engagement in the rear and use of the entire body to achieve an athletic trot. Not easy to describe but still 'easier said than done'. Most important I assured them that the evaluators would be judging their animal against a breed standard and not one horse against the next. We wanted their horses to receive the highest mark that the animal deserved, but it is up to the exhibitor to show the animal to the best of its ability. The judge can't evaluate potential, only what they see of the horse on that day during that test. I believe there were 24 horses evaluated by Karen Cabic and Karen Maas. Often I heard the evaluators congratulation the exhibitors on a good presentation. After each class the evaluators gave oral comments on the animals presented and handed the exhibitor a copy of written scores and comments along with a ribbon. Many of those attending the evaluation praised the evaluators on the educational aspects of the program. The quality of the fjords at Fallbrook was overall quite high which was reflected in the scores. Fjord owners in Southern California should be pleased that they have a good core group of breeding animals. Of course there were some horses that did not do as well as one would have liked to see. The owners of these horses could better understand what improvements they might look for in choosing a mate for their horse and what they might do to improve their horses score. They also learned what to look for when shopping for quality in a performance horse, breeding stock, or a well conformed companion horse. Our NFHR President Neil Sorum and his wife Ruth along with Sophie Fiedler from the evaluation committee traveled to Fallbrook to volunteer their services in measuring horses, handling paper work and setting up the arena. They, together with the show sponsors, deserve a big thank you for extra effort in helping to make the Fallbrook evaluation a wonderful success. Respectfully submitted. Phillip Odden Technical Delegate for Fallbrook evaluation.
over-selection apples and eval oranges
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somebody stop me. Pleeaassse. Nope isn't happening. I'm jumping into the fray which means no matter what I say you (Ruthie) will have an extremely well thought out, sharp tongued response intended to make me look stupid. I say save your breath- I do a fine job on my own. Besides I am now donning my cyber anti-flaming armor of the most highly developed technology. (bugle please) Charge Here is the way I see it - you are comparing over-selection apples to the evaluation oranges. I have not heard anyone say that the purpose of evaluating those stallions is to limit the gene pool. Instead I am hearing them say it is to improve a breeders' tools for selection. Now, now I already hear you saying that people will only pick the one that scores the highest thereby limiting the gene pool. If that is true than what you have proven is that the breeders are stupid. Therefore I submit that in addition to evaluating stallions we also give IQ tests to breeders. That way if you aren't smart enough to use ALL of the information at hand you can just become a backyard horse enthusiast such as myself. To tell you the truth though from what I am reading on the list I believe the breeders are smart enough to understand that they need to look for a stallion that improves the qualities their mare is lacking. Another point I would like to make is that there is an inherent difference in breeding dogs and horses. Especially when it comes to show dogs. Let me explain. The gene pool for certain breeds of show dogs became decreased because the breeders are going for one attribute only - looks. In looking at other true working breeds such as hunting dogs I think you will find a larger, healthier gene pool. With Fjords there are many different breeders after many different characteristics. That alone will mean that the breeder looking for a dressage prospect will pick a different stallion than the breeder looking for a jumping pony than the breeder looking for a farm draft horse and on and on. This is what I think would be of the most benefit to the should we evaluate stallions? discussion: all of you breeders that are on the list please email in and say what qualities you use when picking your stallions for breeding and if evaluation scores would be useful and how much they would be a deciding factor. IQ tests may follow. g Tamara Fallbrook CA soon to be Applegate OR where I will no doubt remember to keep my mouth shut On Sunday, August 7, 2005, at 01:56 PM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This past spring Phillip Odden asked me to gather together those facts I could find in support of the hypothesis that the over-selection of breeding candidates eventually leads to a lessening of the breed population gene pool and results in inbreeding, which leads to all manner of degeneration. This I am doing, because I care very deeply about Fjords and their secure future as a breed, just as you and many others do too. I may not be able to do as much as you have done, but I can do what I can and this issue of over-selection takes my interest. I probably got interested in it because I know that it is over-selection that has ruined and destroyed many dog breeds. We can learn from their plight.. the dog, having a shorter gestation and life period, has come full circle much faster in their breeding consequences. We can learn from their mistakes. This investigation should not detract from all the time and work in the past that has been devoted to conformationally evaluating Fjords, in a time when we weren't aware of protecting our entire gene pool, but now we should know better. Time and science marches on, with or without us. What was relevant 20 or 30 years ago in breeding strategies is no longer. I have offered professional resources and contacts to anyone that is interested in determining whether or not the narrowing of breeding stallions, as Mark suggested, ultimately leads to over-selection, inbreeding, and a loss of genetic diversity. Why not respond by offering conflicting data from a professional geneticist? ..you can't find a professional that would support over-selection, that's why! Name calling and general hysteria is not that impressive, neither is sticking your head in the sand when new information is available. You have well illustrated the uniformed fervor and inflexibility of those who support the destructive practice of over-selection. Twenty or thirty years from now, you will be remembered as having been dogmatic and shortsighted. I only hope that someone within the breed wakes up, speaks up, and gets a professional second opinion on this issue. It may interest you to know that many Universities publish on the Internet, and they're telling us to avoid over-selection. Ruthie, nw mt US
Re: over-selection apples and eval oranges
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow! I furiously typed a reply to Ruthie when I first read her post, then added stuff, subtracted stuff, sat on it and still have not sent it. But I must thank both Tamara Rousso and Teresa Kandianis for your calm and excellent posts! Yes, the North American evaluations are designed to prevent overselection... not to institutionalize it. And Yes, it is comparing over-selection apples to the evaluation oranges.Great posts, both of you! Now let's just all cool down and get off this subject..and I am going to delete my unsent reply. (Or maybe I should save it to see how stupid it sounds tomorrow.) Jean in cloudy Fairbanks, Alaska, the smoke has blown away for the moment. 65 degrees At 05:47 PM 8/7/2005 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somebody stop me. Pleeaassse. Nope isn't happening. I'm jumping into the fray which means no matter what I say you (Ruthie) will have an extremely well thought out, sharp tongued response intended to make me look stupid. I say save your breath- I do a fine job on my own. Besides I am now donning my cyber anti-flaming armor of the most highly developed technology. (bugle please) Charge Here is the way I see it - you are comparing over-selection apples to the evaluation oranges. I have not heard anyone say that the purpose of evaluating those stallions is to limit the gene pool. Instead I am hearing them say it is to improve a breeders' tools for selection.
new Eval picture
This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I just want to announce that the real Libby Evaluation photo arrived today, and is viewable, along with handler Tim Jedra, on Windson's pedigree page. [first we received a picture of a nice brown dun Fjord, but, nice as it was, we really wanted the real Windson...] Bye, Peg Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord/
Re: LaCrosse Eval
This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dave and Patti Walter wrote: This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] I can't make it on Sat. because we are doing the drawing for ARIANNA!!! Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI I'll be calling one VERY LUCKY person this SAT. after the drawing!! I'll be by the phone and my trailer is all hooked up and ready to roll. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
LaCrosse Eval
This message is from: Dave and Patti Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone going to the LaCrosse Eval on Sat. that could take some pictures of my Stallion, Fair Acres Ole with Pat Holland handling him? I can't make it on Sat. because we are doing the drawing for ARIANNA!!! AND I would really like some photo's of the big guy in action. I know there is a professional photographer there doing still shots, he had that done last year while I took him in the conformation part of the evaluation, but this year Pat is taking him in Draft and Intro Riding English. I can't wait to get him back home on Sunday, and I know Pat will miss him TERRIBLY!!! If anyone is going please email me privately, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti Jo Walter Francis Creek Fjords Two Rivers WI I'll be calling one VERY LUCKY person this SAT. after the drawing!!
Eval question
This message is from: Warren Stockwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anyone ever video a eval?? Is their a copy out their for a person to buy? I would like to see one but it turns out the one I could get to this year I may have to work. I would like to see what I am in for if I go this route with my Karri. Thanks, Roberta New Prague MN
Comments about DC Eval
This message is from: lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joel, I don't know if you just like to try to stir up manure or if you are an anti-social person all together. We (the people at the DC Evaluation) tried very hard to have you join us in the fun and festivities at the farm and welcomed you with open arms. You selected to stay away, keep your distance and be a very silent watcher of the events that happen at our farm that weekend. I was taught that if you have a complaint and know more about a subject than others that you step up and put your words into action and DO SOMETHING other than complain about the situation. That is how people become involved and help one another out and how we share and learn. By your last comments, you must have the expertise in an area that you saw was lacking in the NFHR Evaluation System. A system that is built by the members for the members and that is a growing and learning system. I challenge you to come up with the proper expert system to properly evaluate this breed so that we are not dopes on a rope. I offer to you a chance to come to my farm (or the next place we offer a West Coast Fjord Forum) as the Expert in this Field and teach us dopes your perfect system. I offer the same to anyone that feels that our system is not correct. Step up to the plate and teach us how to do it better. Do not complain your way thru life but lead us to the better. Lead by becoming involved in our organization. If you have a expertise... then make it known and open your mouth to get involved... Joel I know, You do not have favorable thoughts about me personally, though I do not know what I have ever done to deserve these thoughts from you. I do know that you carry a very negative attitude with you and for that I am sorry. I am sorry that I nor the event that we hosted could not match your expectations and your expertise. I am sorry that I could not turn you around and have you join us in friendship and fellowship with the people that were there to celebrate this wonderful breed and the wonderful gathering we had. It is a shame that we could not enjoy your wisdom and your positive self that I know must be within you. At this time of year when giving and caring is so important and when the best of the human race should be out and about...I find it sad that you are so hurt, angry and sad. I wish for you a better day, a better week and a better Holiday than you are having. I wish for you a happy heart. I still challenge you to teach and lead rather than sit and be prissy about the things in your life. In Fjord fellowship, Catherine Lassesen Hestehaven - The Horse Garden Home of Norwegian Fjord Horses Fjord Calendar available with each month being a different photo. www.cafepress.com/fjordsusa
EVAL this and that and Ruthie's ranting
This message is from: Ursula Brian Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] First off let me say that being away for a whole week and reading the List back to back gives one a real different perspective. Ruthie, you are RIGHT to promote 'inclusiveness' ...I'm with you on that ..BUT, please read and re-read some of the explanations that OTHERS have tried to give you. Carol's very long and very CLEAR post regarding 'APPROPRIATENESS was excellent and well thought out...she has that knack of saying it well as you know. Teressa's explanation was from a very 'new to driving' perspective/angle and she said it so well also. Try to be a bit open to what we are saying...Noone wants to see Gene to wear a laprobe or apron when he is driving his stagecoach..nor a wagon or buckboardGSH! That would be silly.it's all about appropriateness of the vehicle and the ADS rules state it very clear they are very inclusive...read about how they were established ( someone alluded to that as well) I'll tell you what I DO hate to seesomeone coming to any regional show (FJord or otherwise) and not taking the time to show the Fjord at it's bestclean and not just pulled out of the pasture...I don't care if you trim his beard or shave his jaw-line or feathers...but I want to see the horse cleanas far as clothing for the handler..yes, I do object to a dirty T-shirts with rude logos and sandals...blah blah blah...it shows a lack of respect for the horse, the farm, the person, the audience, the show organizers who have put hundreds of hours into the preparations and most of all the judge who stands on his feet for 8 hrs in heat or rain or wind with a jacket and tie (without the pee breaks that are normally allowed most humans). There is just no way you could possibly object to that nor agree with that and that's ALL we are saying. I know this much about you Ruthie...you are a neat and tidy looking woman and probably keep a pretty nice home/farm. Would you have some objection to someone coming into your house with muddy boots and smelling really bad and sitting on your white sofa smoking a smelly cigar? ( I choose this parallel because of it's inappropriateness, disrespect and I won't even start on safety ) Enough said. On to the Eval in OregonCatherine did a phenomenal job of organizing this event...as ever she is a gracious hostess and a very hard worker...the evaluation was well worth the effort and cost to make the trip there from here. After the 2001 fiasco in Libby where Penfrydd's Raynor became so very ill, it was a chance to redeem himself and his sire Konggard. I felt I owed it to him and to others to show him at his best. Many of the same people were there to see him healthy and quite taken with himself. The support was phenomenal then and this time around It was certainly his day to shine and my boy 'done did it'. There are always so many variables and no matter how much we prepare and primp and prayit's a crap shoot at best on any given day...The stars aligned and all is well with the world. He received 4 (read four) blue ribbons (YEEHAW!!! I do love that color) He scored a respectable 82.5 in conformation ...very consistent with his strengths and weaknesses. He scored a 90.5 in Introductory Driving...(Ursula as whip...YEEHAW!!! the highest score of the driving portion) He scored an 80 in Intro riding with our riding trainer Julie Pilon...YEEEHAW!!...we don't ride so this was costly but worth it He scored an 83.5 in the Intro Draft test with Brian as teamster...YEEEHAW!!! Now that's a versatile fjord... not just the fact that he held it together for three disciplines in one day and get good scores but also that he had three different handlersthat's BIGat any time he could have asserted himself and display unfavourable behaviours as we all know our horses are capable of. or driver error as we all have brain farts. I was extremely proud of him and proud of the many friends who genuinely were pleased to see him do well...I appreciated that so much. I will let Brian tell you about his daysshowing 3 different horses in 7 testnow THATS BIG and he should get a versatility award as well. Vivian, thanks for the time spent to share your Laurels account...good job (in spite of...don't be so hard on yourself) and goodluck at Gladstonemy gig has the honour of having competed at both Gladstone (previous owner) and Spruce Meadows but I venture to guess I will never be as lucky. Back to cleaning up after one week of absence AND dirty equipmentyuck!!! ursula Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC, V0E 2G0 Canada 250-547-6303 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/
Day's Creek Eval ups and downs
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] What a great job everyone did pitching in to make this Evaluation run as smoothly as it did! Catherine already thanked most of the folks on the last Digest, but I want to send a particular thank-you to her for her endless work and savvy. Time for the brags. Vies Vilde our 3-yr-old Norwegian mare, earned a Blue in Conformation and Movement. We were not only delighted, but very relieved, because I couldn't have faced Linda Vie if she hadn't. And then our sweet Sadiekins [OH Sadie] earned a Conformation and Movement Blue also, with a score of 85.25! What a gal! She went on to Get a Red ribbon in Advanced English, earning her an NFHR Gold Medallion of Quality. I haven't told her dad, Mr Erlend, that she out-scored him - his little stallion ego is so delicate On the down side, His Majesty definitely was having an off couple of days down there. Combining that with my lack of Draft experience, we scratched him from the Intro Draft test. There's always next time Toots [she doesn't go by her real name, Roberta], and Anne, the young women who showed our girls, did a fine job, helping me relax and enjoy watching. Will post Eval pictures of them and their mares on our web site soon. This was my 3rd Eval, and I have to agree with the Evaluators that the quality of horses, both in Conformation and Performance classes, keeps rising. My compliments and appreciation to all those who have made it happen by keeping the Eval program going. Bye now - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.elltel.net/kffjord/
Day's Creek Eval
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, tomorrow morning we are off to the Evaluation in Day's Creek with Sadie, Vilde, and Erlend. I'm looking forward to seeing lots of old friends, and to letting folks see our Norwegian gal, Vilde. She's a cutie, and is a big girl for 3 years old. I am NOT looking forward to running my first draft test with His Majesty! He, of course, knows everything about pulling, but I don't. The kicker is that only 3 horses are entered in that class, and the other two are being handled by Brian Jensen. Ho boy.! I know it's an Eval and not a show class, but still I guess I'll be happy if I and most of the cones remain upright. Wish us luck. More later - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.elltel.net/kffjord/
Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd (fixed)
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being auctioned from Hamlett's herd: http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692 GRABBSON NFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17 Untrained stallion, evaluated red. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70 http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784 RO SANDY'S KATE C-669 BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06 Trained mare, thrown gray, evaluated blue. Bred to Grabbson. This is a Blue Ribbon mare Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000) http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668 AMANDA'S BEAUTY C-621 EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15 Trained mare. Is bred with colt at side. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75 http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765 NORTH CREEK GJOI KS-K-1411-M 1997-05-06 Trained and bred mare. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a Blue) http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024 SKYVIEW SVEN TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5 http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372 A. S. RINSKA PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73 http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406 SKYVIEW HENRY TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt. This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare was bred in Norway to the stallion named HERMANN N-96-2707 http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379 VIKTOR FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529 N-N-1555-S 2000-06-13 Stallion imported from Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69 Hope this helps some of you out. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well that didn't come out very well! I will resend the other one with the right links. Sorry about that. Mike At 08:23 AM 2/24/2003 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being auctioned from Hamlett's herd: A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692 GRABBSON/ANFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17 Untrained stallion, evaluated red. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784 RO SANDY'S KATE C-669/A BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06 Trained mare, thrown gray, evaluated blue. Bred to Grabbson. This is a Blue Ribbon mare Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000) A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668 AMANDA'S BEAUTY C-621/A EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15 Trained mare. Is bred with colt at side. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765 NORTH CREEK GJOI/A KS-K-1411-M1997-05-06 Trained and bred mare. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a Blue) A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024 SKYVIEW SVEN/A TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372 A. S. RINSKA/A PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406 SKYVIEW HENRY/A TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt. This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare was bred in Norway to the stallion named HERMANN N-96-2707 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379 VIKTOR FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529/A N-N-1555-S 2000-06-13 Stallion imported from Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69 Hope this helps some of you out. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Eval scores for Fjords in Hamlett Herd
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 01:04 PM 2/23/2003 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, For those of you without a flyer, here are the horses and information as listed in the Waverly flyer, with links to the NFHR pedigree page, being auctioned from Hamlett's herd: A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=692 GRABBSON/ANFR-Y-150-S 1985-06-17 Untrained stallion, evaluated red. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 70 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=784 RO SANDY'S KATE C-669/A BOF-D-477-M 1990-02-06 Trained mare, thrown gray, evaluated blue. Bred to Grabbson. This is a Blue Ribbon mare Score on Conformation Evaluation was 82 (Blue Earth 2000) A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4668 AMANDA'S BEAUTY C-621/A EIL-C-1393-M 1989-06-15 Trained mare. Is bred with colt at side. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 72.75 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=4765 NORTH CREEK GJOI/A KS-K-1411-M1997-05-06 Trained and bred mare. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 79 (one point short of a Blue) A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=200024 SKYVIEW SVEN/A TH-K-1009-G 1997-05-31 Gelding, trained. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 74.5 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=1372 A. S. RINSKA/A PAM-H-795-M 1994-05-08 Trained mare, bred to Grabbson. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 73 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100406 SKYVIEW HENRY/A TH-P-1645-S 2002-05-05 Colt. This one is out of Guri the imported Norwegian mare was bred in Norway to the stallion named HERMANN N-96-2707 A HREF=http://www.nfhr.com/ponyweb/ponyweb.cgi?horse=100379 VIKTOR FRA SKARHAUG N-00-2529/A N-N-1555-S 2000-06-13 Stallion imported from Norway, evaluated as a 2 year old with a yellow. Score on Conformation Evaluation was 69 Hope this helps some of you out. === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Norway Stallion Eval dates
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] The young stock show in Forde is on Saturday, the 26th of April [that's ah-preel...]. The stallion evaluation in Nordfjordeid is May 1 - 3. This is from Oda Meunch-Bronk of Switzerland, and Linda and Halgeir Vie of Forde [that's fur-duh...], Norway. Hope to go and to see you all there! Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Re: NFHR Carson City Eval
This message is from: Mike May, Registrar NFHR [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 03:38 AM 8/19/2002 +, you wrote: This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have not yet applied to Mike May for the Eval, and still wish to do so, please do so asap... I belive the closing date is nigh! nite,Kmac I think some of Karen's message was cut off at the end. The closing date for the pre entries for the Carson City Evaluation is Aug 19th. Yes that IS today. Get to the mailbox right now. Mike === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Executive Director Registrar PO Box 685 Webster, NY 14580-0685 Voice 585-872-4114 FAX 585-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
NFHR Carson City Eval
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone!For those of you curious about what the site conditions will be like for the Carson City Eval, I have posted the pictures on my Picturetrail site: http://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Click onto the album titled CVEC - NFHR Eval (CVEC refers to the Carson Valley Equestrian Center). I have included some info on lodging/camping as well.If you have not yet applied to Mike May for the Eval, and still wish to do so, please do so asap... I belive the closing date is nigh! nite,Kmac Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: Click Here
Re: carson City Eval, Butterfly Bits Swimming
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Karen- Checked my P.O. Box today and there was the Evaluation package, thanks! I'll see how my schooling goes with Knute. If we're ready, we'll enter the performance (wouldn't mind doing conformation for the experience, but I'm afraid we'd be laughed out of the arena...) If we're not ready, I will attend as a spectator/slave. Looks like a good time, and driving distance from home. See you then! Brigid M Wasson San Francisco Bay Area, CA A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Our /A A HREF=http://ourfjords.freeservers.com/fjord1/Our_Fjordsx.html;Fjords/A A HREF=http://www.ourfjords.freeservers.com/fw/Fjordings_Wesx.html; Fjordings West/A / )__~ /L /L
RE:carson City Eval, Butterfly Bits Swimming
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, Just wanted to chime in on a variety of things here. i have been so swamped that i just do a quick scan of the List daily, but there are a few things I wanted to comment on: I mailed out the Application packets for the Carson City Eval just over a week ago. So far, I have only had one sent back and I mailed out almost 300! Boy was I stupid in forgetting to hire my barn rat teenagers to do the stuffing, adressing stamping. It took me almost 9 hours! Live learn ;~) So...if you are in the Westren Region, and desire to apply for this eval, please email me privately and I will send you the info. Also I cannot emphasize enough that if you don't have a horse that is ready to evaluate, but are curious about the process and want to learn more, please come and watch, and even participate as a volunteer. You can learn LOTS and meet many of your fellow fjord owners and breeders officials in the process. FYI, if you want to view the site where the Eval is to be held, I will be taking pictures of the Horse Centre and placing them on my Picturetrail site by 7/29. I will re-post this to the List at that time. --- Butterfly bits: The one depicted on the Countryside.com site is not a true Butterfly bit, as in the one used for driving, also referred to as a Post bit. In the traditional Butterfly/Post bit, there are 2 swept back tear drop shaped loops (shanks) below the bit's mouthpiece, (not one), and the cheek piece (that connects to the bridle cheeks) is not as high/tall, and has a round loop, not a reverse of the shank loops. Also, it is not very common, or desireable to use a snaffle mouthpiece on a curb bit, as this one depicts. Much more common to have a mullen mouth or low port = a solid mothpiece. I tried contacting the Glory bit company to order a 5 1/2 mouth Butterfly bit, but never got thru to them, so I had a bitmaker in the Sacramneto, Ca. area make one up based on a drawing I made for him. It took about 4 weeks cost almost $100, incl. sh, but I am very pleased with it. It is made of sweet iron,(not shiny silver, but dark metallic grey) with copper strips inlaid into the mullen mouthpiece.It has a very nice angle in the horses mouth too. One thing I really like about it, is that where the shanks join the mouthpiece, they are hinged by a barrel joint, so there is absolutely zero pinching. Very similar to a Myler bit, but unlike the Myler's, the shank and cheek pieces move as one, not independently, and are less squirrly. (Myler bits can have a bit too MUCH signal, making them confusing to the horse IMO - I have tried them on very well trained horses.) Anyway, if anyone wants a nice driving bit based on a traditional Butterfly, that can pass muster in a CDE presentation, let me know. I'll let you know who to contact. -- Swimming: be careful out there! Yes, it is a blast, but do be aware that some fjords ( and like myself!) have negative bouyancy (sp) , meaning that we SINK in deep water, not float. (too much bone/muscle mass compared to fat/lung capacity). Take it slow and easy when entering the water the 1st time, and let the horse figure out how to swim, by itself, before you try this as a group effort. I kinda learned the hard way the first time out swimming a not very bouyant fjord. We were ok in the end, but it was a bit disconcerting to see your horse disappear below the water while underneath you! Not to mention getting water n their ears. Also watch out for: waterweeds in ponds. They can entangle legs and make some horses a bit panicky, not a good place to be if you are swimming alongside. Make sure you have a good route out of the water, especially if you are creek swimming. And always respect your horse if it absolutely refuses to enter some section of a creek or pond.. It could very likely have a bit of quicksand under the water.* all of the above learned by experiece ;~) The most fun I ever had was in a deep creek channel, that we were able to approach very gradually, and once in, the horse swam and we were moved gently downsream at the same time. Big fun! Enjoy your summer! Karen McCarthyGreat Basin Fjords :: Carson City, Nevadahttp://www.picturetrail.com/weegees Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. Click Here
Re: NFHR Eval, Carson City, Nv
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 5/6/02 3:47:27 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We had the verbal commitment from you, now we need ya all to put your $ where your mouth is so to speak, and get signed up. Thanks Karen! Count me in send on the paperwork... Brigid
NFHR Eval, Carson City, Nv
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Just wanted to put out the word that the NFHR Eval Comm. has given the go ahead for the Eval planned for Carson City this fall, Oct. 19-20. Yipee! We did have a slight change in the venue, for the better IMO, as it is now scheduled to take place at a private barn that we will have all to ourselves, not at a public fairgrounds facility.It is less than 4 miles from the original place. So, this means that all of you folks who kindly responded in the affirmative to me via phone or email about participating, please look in your mailboxes soon for your confirmation/deposit letter. This is the next step in this process... We had the verbal commitment from you, now we need ya all to put your $ where your mouth is so to speak, and get signed up. If you have any questions in the interim, fire away, and I will do my best to answer them, and if I need help I will look to my regional Eval. comm. member, Anne Appleby, for enlightenment. Karen McCarthy Carson City, Nv _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Eval, not!
This message is from: Mary Thurman [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On a different note - our barn cats are big enough to have the run of the barn now, and it's been a hoot, as one of my friends would say, to watch them. I wish the video camera had been handy to capture Vilde's lip-grooming of one very happy purring cat. He rubbed and rubbed against her lips as she slimed him thoroughly, taking practically his whole head into her lips - no teeth. Peg, Hmmm. Maybe this 'cat grooming' thing runs in the 'family'? Line's grandson, Sindar, had a 'pet cat' when he was growing up. We got the cat as a kitten when Sindar was about 2 years old. That cat soon learned where the best place in the barn was: in Sindar's manger. He would sleep in the hay, hide in it and pounce at Sindar while he was eating, walk on the lip of the manger and rub on the horse's face. Sindar groomed this cat regularly, and visa versa. One day I heard Sindar clunking around in his stall, as if he were walking around in there. Upon investigating, I found 'his cat' carrying one of my leather gloves in his mouth dragging it around and around the stall - with Sindar happily following him and trying to grab the glove!! Of course, no video camera in hand - darn! The two of them were great pals until the cat disappeared one day(I suspect either an eagle or a coyote). Most of Line's offspring have done 'cat grooming' duty over the years. Both Flikke and Katya regularly groomed whatever barncat happened to jump up on their mangers. Line currently has a barncat for company. I'm a little worried about the colts and the cats, but so far, no problem. It's been my experience that the cats pretty much avoid colts until the colts learn some manners ;). Either that or they proceed to teach manners - claws out and swatting!! Our barncat/feral cat population once reached 26, so we have had LOTS of cats and kittens around our horses. I can't remember a single cat or kitten ever being injured by a horse - or any horse ever being seriously injured by a cat's claws. We HAVE had the occasional 'scratched nose', which probably got TOO close or too pushy(or 'toothy'). Keep the camera handy!! Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Tax Center - online filing with TurboTax http://taxes.yahoo.com/
Eval, not!
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I'm sorry to report that not enough folks have indicated a committed interest in an Evaluation in Washington State to justify further steps in getting one set up. We also lack someone experienced who is willing to oversee an Evaluation, so it looks like next year. I'm disappointed, as I'm sure many of you are, but I hope you will support the Nevada Evaluation if possible. Best of luck. On a different note - our barn cats are big enough to have the run of the barn now, and it's been a hoot, as one of my friends would say, to watch them. Under the open sky they skulk from place to place [a very good idea, given our eagle population.] And they have absolutely no fear of the horses, even MVF Fatso. I wish the video camera had been handy to capture Vilde's lip-grooming of one very happy purring cat. He rubbed and rubbed against her lips as she slimed him thoroughly, taking practically his whole head into her lips - no teeth. I'll bet she was going patooey, patooey, later, to get rid of the loose cat hairs, but it was adorable to watch. Our kitties were little fluff balls when Kelley brought them over, so we named them Killer and Spike. They are good mousers now, so they fit their names a little better, even tho they are still quite fluffy. I'm a little worried about the colts and the cats, but so far, no problem. I think we must get some miniature goats from the Sperls, though, because they are the CUTEST little beings I can imagine. They look like little barrels with 4 stubs and a head. Who could resist? Doug, maybe, but not me! Bye for now - Peg Peg Knutsen - Ellensburg, WA http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Eval. in our area?? and Ride with the stars??
This message is from: Deb Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is there any plans going forward for an Evaluation in the Michigan llonois Indiana area Does any one have any knowledge of the Ride with the Stars program in Lexington, Ky at Kentucky Horse Park. I am interested in attending. But I do not know of any one who has so have no reference per facility etc. I know that there are the different levels of attendance and that you can camp over. but how much and how close do you really get to the trainers. I understand that you have to request to get into the separate clinics and that you may sign up but no guarantee that you will get any or most of your choices??? For the cost I would like more for sure info. My interest is to take my rosier and have a fantastic play time. I went there when I was in junior high with 4 other horse crazy girls and one very, understanding mother. It was only a breeding farm then but they told us all about the plans to become this fantastic learning facility. From the information I have gotten the years I have always wanted to return. I actual y got to hold onto the lead line of the famous stallion CITATION on that trip, can you imagine how big a smile was on my face for the next month!!! Debi Williams Williams Hill Fjords Waterford, Pa Home of Tolgar,Tanja, Belle,Hilda, Beckett, Rosie and Daniel
More Libby Eval pictures on Mirror KB Ranch website
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, If you are interested in seeing the Libby Evaluation conformation shots, wander back over to t he Mirror KB Ranch website (pages 7-10). The shots came out GREAT! They look a little dark on the website -- but they can be lightened up without any problem. I'll be using them for the Record Book, but I contacted Kim and Kari and suggested they put up the conformation shots since folks may be interested in purchasing prints/digital images for their own use. All the ordering info in on their website. http://www.mirrorkbranch.com/fjord.html Sandy -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Virginia Eval + saddle for sale
This message is from: Sam Sue Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] I will be at the Virginia evaluation with my Lilly, BDF Lillehammer. I am looking forward to seeing all those Fjords in one place. I will not be arriving until Saturday morning and I will miss all the Friday socializing. I am selling an Orthoflex Premier dressage saddle and will bring it to the Evaluation. It is 3 years old and in very good to excellent condition, brown leather, 17 1/2 inch seat with stitched down seat, large thigh rolls, and System 2 panels. The saddlepad/booties that came with the saddle are like new because they were only used for showing, and I will sell it with an almost new OF neoprene girth. It has a deep secure seat, and with the stitched down padding, it is comfortable for long trail rides. I had significant back pain when I got the saddle, and it is a very supportive shape. New $1799.00, I am asking $1400. This is the same tree as the OF Stitchdown and Versatile saddles, and the only reason I am selling it is because I have my Versatile which is just like this one only an all purpose style. My dressage instructor wanted me to get a dressage saddle that did not lock me into such a deep seat, and after trying 5 saddles, I found one that both my horse and I can use. I have had good success with the Orthoflex saddles fitting my Fjords, and Lilly's chiropractic and massage therapist visits have only shown minor muscle and back problems, probably more due to my crooked riding than the saddle. Sue Banks [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.274 / Virus Database: 144 - Release Date: 8/23/01
RE: Carson City Pre-Eval Clinic Pictures
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] try adding an n after the second a so that it is http://revivantranch.4t.com Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, still light after 10 PM but losing daylight at 7 minutes a day! At 10:15 PM 7/27/2001 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen, your link doesn't work. All I get is a splash screen saying that this domain name is available for purchase. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: Carson City Pre-Eval Clinic Pictures
This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen, your link doesn't work. All I get is a splash screen saying that this domain name is available for purchase. Fred and Lois Pack Pack's Peak Stables Wilkeson, WA USA http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/3158 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Dudley and Karen Haines Sent: Friday, July 27, 2001 1:56 PM To: FjordingsWest-yahoo group Cc: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Subject: Carson City Pre-Eval Clinic Pictures This message is from: Dudley and Karen Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I loaded some of the pictures Dudley took at the Carson City Pre-Evaluation Clinic to our website. The address is http://revivantrach.4t.com Follow the link to Fjord Horses. Sorry the pictures take so long to upload. I haven't figured out how to do thumbnails yet. If anyone has some tips on how to do this, or knows of a good HTML tutorial on thumbnails, I would appreciate it. Hope you enjoy the pictures. Karen H
Re: Carson City Pre-Eval Clinic Pictures
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Karen, I am looking forward to viewing the pics, but I could not access your site. Is the address correct? Is it not missing a n in ranch? Help!! Kmac, ...one of the computer-dly challenged _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp
Carson City Pre-Eval Clinic Pictures
This message is from: Dudley and Karen Haines [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi everyone, I loaded some of the pictures Dudley took at the Carson City Pre-Evaluation Clinic to our website. The address is http://revivantrach.4t.com Follow the link to Fjord Horses. Sorry the pictures take so long to upload. I haven't figured out how to do thumbnails yet. If anyone has some tips on how to do this, or knows of a good HTML tutorial on thumbnails, I would appreciate it. Hope you enjoy the pictures. Karen H
Libby Eval
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please, folks...those of you who are pre-registered for the Libby Eval in Sept. please note that TODAY is the deadline to get your final application in...do it now. ALSOwe are offering an opportunity for farms to advertises in the brochurebusiness card size ads only...for $10 .send a cheque and your card to Mike May. VOLUNTEERSfor those attending the Eval to watch..please consider volunteering a few hours of your time to make the event run a bit smoother...we need people to help set up the courses on Performance day (Thurs) to run papers back and forth ..open and close gates and umpteen different little jobsif you can spare some time please let us knowwe will be forever grateful cause 'there just ain't enough of us to go around '. Let us know by contacting either( myself) Ursula Jensen, Peg Knutson or Beth Beymer. Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
A number of things...Eval, Record Book
This message is from: Ursula Jensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just want to mention a couple of things . Firstfor those of you who will be attending the Libby 2001 Evaluation in Sept and then staying to participate in the PNFPG Show please be advised that your registration is due on July 17 (postmarked) AND that if you are bringing horses for the Show that are not being Evaluated you will have to indicate that stalls are required for those extra daysfor example we are bringing 5 horses but only 4 are being evaluated...make sure you send in the stall fee for any extra horses. Also..we need to continue to sell the Record Books and are looking for a workable solution to get these books out into the publicAside from direct order from Mike May and having them at a few of the larger exhibitions where Fjord folks are manning booths we are at a loss for ideas regarding distribution...If any of the regional groups have events please notify the Registry and Mike can send out a few books for sale. There always needs to be one person who is willing to be accountable and handle the finances. We are getting close to the break even point and would like to have most of the books sold before too long...Also remember them for possible inclusion on your Christmas wish list or recommend it to any new fjord owners. I encourage all of you to help promote this book so we can feel justified in putting together the next volume after this next set of 2001 evaluations. UJ WE are very busy with driving weekends which are going very well. We also have participated in a few events and local showsThe Pedersens have been here to pick up their bred mare Ayla who has since given birth of a Trinity's SamStein baby...boy did WE ever have fun that weekend. Our daughter Vanessa is getting married in August so our summer is just flying along...Finally have some good weather. Penfrydd's Raynor is now at a local trainer for a refresher riding course to prepare him for the upcoming Evaluation...boy do I ever miss that boy. All of you have a great summer and get out and enjoy those Fjordies...UJ Ursula Brian Jensen Trinity Fjords Box 1032 Lumby BC Canada V0E-2G0 http://okjunc.junction.net/~ujensen/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] (250) 547-6303
Turlock Eval...still nagging
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] WellI'm not out of town yet, so I can still nag. We have a few more horses, but still need more. Anyone need an application. As to bringing geldings. Yes, sorta, there is no reason to bring your lone gelding except that you learn a lot about Fjord conformation/standards by having yours included. And, if you ever want to sell your gelding, or buy another, the evaluations are a great place for shopping. Witness the fact that the Pierce's and Catherine L are bring back geldings from a *Norway* evaluation! Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turlock Eval...App's lost?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/11/01 5:37:30 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Will you know before May 14? SEnd in your application to ensure that the evaluation happens..Please? She is bad. Stress, stress, stress and deadlines, ugh. I'll certainly do my best to figure out my situation by then. I'd love to get some horses evaluated. My big problem? I'm a novice horse hauler. I've got an 80 Miley 2 horse bumper pull. I've got a 1500 Chevy truck. And it's a long drive for me to make, being a novice, with a somewhat light truck AND a special needs child with me. Anybody going to Turlock passing through Portland that wants to pick up a horse or two g? That would make it a LOT easier for me to decide. Otherwise, I'll fuss and figure and decide one way or t'other before May 14! Pamela
Re: Turlock Eval...App's lost?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Will you know before May 14? SEnd in your application to ensure that the evaluation happens..Please? She is bad. Fortunately, her horses are good. :) Bad Jean g I got mine! Actually 2 sets. Now if I can just make it to Turlock or Libby this year.. Pamela Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Turlock Eval...App's lost?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 4/11/01 5:25:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bad Jean g I got mine! Actually 2 sets. Now if I can just make it to Turlock or Libby this year.. Pamela
Re: Turlock Eval...App's lost?
This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gail, Did you put stamps on the envelopes? (Running and ducking) Jean in sloppy, Fairbanks, Alaska, in the midst of spring break-upAt 03:55 PM 4/11/2001 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKI am almost positive I saw Denise's name on an envelope that I mailed. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Turlock Eval...App's lost?
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKI am almost positive I saw Denise's name on an envelope that I mailed. At 09:31 AM 4/11/2001 -0700, you wrote: This message is from: Denise Delgado [EMAIL PROTECTED] gail, no app came my way. denise northern calif. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Turlock Eval Deadline, May 14th..and forms available.
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it looks like I should have printed up return addresses for the envelopes I sent out. They would have been more clearly identified as from Fjord people, instead of people wanting you to buy things that come in plain brown envelopes. :) SoI am going to have to make an extra effort to drum up business for the evaluation. NOte: The deadline is May 14, not 15. I can e-mail forms in Word. Looking at whether I should convert to rich text format as well. LET ME KNOW IF YOU DID NOT RECEIVE AN APP, PLEASE. Gail. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: NFHR Pre-Eval. Clinic July 7-8
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] .Hear Ye!...Hear Ye!!Hear Ye!!! In anticipation of the NFHR Conformation-Only Evaluation, scheduled for Turlock Show, 9/28 Fjordings West announces a: Pre-Eval Clinic Saturday, July 7th at The Rafter P^M Ranch, in Carson City, Nv. *Followed on Sunday, July 8th, with a Horsemanship Trail clinic. The clinic will be taught by Beth Beymer, of Starfire Farm, Berthoud, Co., with assistance from Karen McCarthy, Great Basin Fjords, Carson City, NV. Both Beth and Karen have been involved in the NFHR Eval.Committee, and have presented horses in NFHR Evaluations with much success. Beth is currently a participant in the NFHR Evaluator Training Program. There will be a limited number of stalls (8) available on site, but there is stabling available off site (4 miles away from the ranch) at a very nice fairgrounds. The emphasis on Sat. will be on what to expect at an NFHR Evaluation, i.e. procedures, evaluators' expectations and presenting your horse correctly in-hand both for standing inspection and on the triangle. We will have some fjord horses available to use as guinea pigs for those of you who don't want to haul. Beth will be bringing videos, and we will have all of the current rules scoresheets available to dissect. There will be a mane trimming demo, as well as general tips on grooming for horse human. On Saturday night, Buckaroo Brucie, the resident ranch cook, will tantalise our tastebuds with his chuckwagon cooking...using his authentic 1880's chuckwagon battlion of dutch ovens.(He'll also regale you with every cowboy joke pun known to mankind, but that's beside the point...) Sunday the focus will be work under saddle, English and Western, in a Horsemanship Trail clinic. Beth has been a good student of some very well respected teachers, and she has proven herself to be very versatile and sucessful in Fjord and in Open competitions with her Fjord horses. As the ranch is located in an area that has many excellent training possibilities (arena w/ working gates lots of obstacles, open pasture with creek cattle, a park with a river, and a steep hill with challenging rocky trails) allwithin a mile of the ranch, this really lends itself to being an excellent classroom for a Trail clinic. Auditors and hands on participants are encouraged to reserve a spot before June 2nd. Prices will be very reasonable; we only want to cover direct expenses - neither Beth nor I are getting a dime,(really!) as we really hope to encourage education and participation in the NFHR Evaluations here in the West. This promises to be a great chance to learn + socialise amongst all your fellow West Coast fjordy friends! Carson City is but 35 minutes from the Reno airport, and we are at the junction of Interstates 395 and 50. There is great nearby lodging (thank you casinos!)and Lake Tahoe,etc,etc, is 1/2 hr. distant. For more info on these clinic(s), please contact Karen privately. I allready have 3 reservations, so get right on it! _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
Re: 5 mo. old eval
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/5/01 1:08:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can they really tell much at 5 months of age? Cute. You can definitely tell cute. (ROFL) Thanks Gail, That was most informative. LOL I KNEW that much., and its kinda like our kids, ALL of mine are cute!! HAHA I could probably handle the judges pointing out faults in the adult horses, but I'm sure my fur would stand up, if they criticized my babies! G MOMMA BEAR Michele Noonan Where it rained buckets last night, then froze today and now I have a lake in the yard, Want to come ice skate? Stevensville, Mt
Re:5 mo. old eval
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 2/5/01 1:08:31 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can they really tell much at 5 months of age? Cute. You can definitely tell cute. (ROFL) Gail Dorine Las Cruces, NM
Re: Lengthening stride / Eval results
This message is from: Starfire Farm, LLC [EMAIL PROTECTED] OK Lauren I'll try ... here's what I've done. When training the lengthenings my instructor says at first just think fast, ie give the aids to GO and he will figure it out. If he breaks to canter its no biggie, just bring him back right away and keep asking. You need to keep the contact with the bit, the horse will try to stretch way out and get on the forehand which is not what you want, so keep good contact and light squeezes with your leg, or touches with the whip (behind the saddle not in front). This works with my guy and we are starting to get really good steps. In working trot I never hold him back, working trot is his normal gait with lots of energy, just ask for MUCH MORE in the lengthening. Same for canter. Hope this helps some. Hi Lauren, I agree with Lori, just do it at the rising trot and don't ask for too much or for a long time. Be satisfied with little trys in the beginning, it will come with time. The power must come from behind, and it takes time to build that muscle strength. Sometimes it helps to ask after some canter work prior to asking for lengthenings. Also, pay close attention to the horse's rhythm while you do this. Any loss of rhythm is an indication of loss of balance. Slow him down and start again. To help transfer the riding to driving, I use a voice aid as I'm riding. I'll say something like, Trot on in an energetic voice and make a noise specific to that gait. I try to get the horse to go from my voice command eventually, as lots of folks out there use hissing and other sounds, and your horse can think he's supposed to respond when he hears it. Watch to be sure that your horse is reaching underneath his body with his hind legs, and not kicking his hind legs out behind him as you are asking for this work. His hind legs should be tracking straight, not spreading wide. Spreading indicates a loss of balance, also, and is incorrect. Above all, take your time. It will come. Beth -- Beth Beymer Sandy North Starfire Farm, Berthoud CO http://www.starfirefarm.com
Re: Lengthening stride / Eval results
This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] fjords wrote: What I am hoping to discover is how I can train the difference in a trot, I understand a collected trot and working trot but to extend, do I just give him more leg contact more rein ? OK Lauren I'll try ... here's what I've done. When training the lengthenings my instructor says at first just think fast, ie give the aids to GO and he will figure it out. If he breaks to canter its no biggie, just bring him back right away and keep asking. You need to keep the contact with the bit, the horse will try to stretch way out and get on the forehand which is not what you want, so keep good contact and light squeezes with your leg, or touches with the whip (behind the saddle not in front). This works with my guy and we are starting to get really good steps. In working trot I never hold him back, working trot is his normal gait with lots of energy, just ask for MUCH MORE in the lengthening. Same for canter. Hope this helps some. Lori Albrough Moorefield Ontario http://www.bluebirdlane.com
Re: N.F.H.R. Eval at Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] OOPS I meant to send that to kathy Rollins AND I'M GONNA BE THE ELF! LOL LOL LOL LOL I HOPE I DONT SCREW THIS UP THANKS TO ALL THAT HAVE SENT IN YOUR SIGN UP FORMS, IF YOU WANT ME TO SEND YOU ONE, JUST EMAIL ME AND I'LL GET ONE OFF TO YOU [EMAIL PROTECTED] REMEMBER THE DEADLINE IS DEC 5TH!! SIGNED THE ELF THAT DRINKS SPIKED EGGNOG
Re: N.F.H.R. Eval at Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As soon as you know the aproximate costs of partipating in the Evaluation, As I have never done this, I will know for sure But, I am definetly planning on participating if at all possible, Are there many weanlings that are evaluated? I will have two. and atleast one mare if not two Michele Noonan Stevensville, Mt PS If I can help in anyway, as inexperienced as I am, I would love too!!
Re: N.F.H.R. Eval at Libby
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (James Rollins) During these formitive planning stages of the proposed evaluation in conjunction with the Libby show we are trying to get an idea of how many folks plan on participating. If you are planning on bringing horses to be evaluated in either the conformation portion or one or more of the performance tests please let me know. This will help us on the eval committee be able to budget for this program. Giving us an idea that you are planning on attending this eval in no way, (at this point), locks you in to anything. However, around January more official paperwork will be mailed to you regarding the specific details of registering for the evaluation. Plese note that there will be a limited number of horses that we can fit in time-wise to this two day proposed eval. The working number at this point is 35. It will be important to those who are serious about participating to honor all deadlines regarding paperwork. The Eval committee is very pleased to hear that so many fjord owners are interested in the Evaluation process. So much has already been done, past and present , to insure that we continue to move forward and educate fjord owners about preparing and participating in these evaluations. I look forward to hearing from you on this matter. You may contact me at 1-(509)-276-7304 or E-mail me at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally wish you all a Blessed Holiday season filled with lots of joy and happiness, and of course Fjords! Respectfully submitted, Kathleen Rollins Evaluation Committee
eval, show, etc.
This message is from: Knutsen Fjord Farm [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow, Sue G., did I ever get in heck? Whew! Fortunately, I agree with you about what Should happen regarding having geldings Evaluated. What I meant when writing was what probably Would happen. It seems that many, if not most, geldings go to folks who want them for personal use and would not be interested in going to an Evaluation. Sorry. I'm glad you wrote so clearly of the reasons why geldings Should be Evaluated. By the way, I just checked, and out of Erlend's 41 registered offspring, 23 are mares. Pretty standard. I don't have the exact count on how many have been Evaluated so far, I'll have to ask Mike. I'll find out soon, though, because I'm putting together an Erlend calendar for next year [I have to do something with all those photos] and am going to send one to each owner of an Erlend kid, with a request for an update on that horse. I'd be very excited about a national show. I've been impressed with some of the good thinking and great ideas that have been sent in. I definitely would want to come with horses, but after going to Turlock so soon after Libby, I know we'd need a good separation from Libby, or the every other year arrangement. It was too much for us and for the horses, even though they were entered in very few classes in each show. Also, I think some of the rest of us believe we have the cutest fjord filly at our place Silly Willie was so torqued off at being away from mom for a few hours that she was actually nursing from Pepper - and Pepper was allowing it. Willie kept going around to the other side, thinking maybe that would do the trick, but nothing came out. Pepper finally got bored and walked away. Bye for now - Peg Knutsen http://www.eburg.com/~kffjord/
Cincinnatti Eval Training - Roomie, Tourist Info Wanted
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, I have reserved my auditing spot at the Evaluation Training Seminar in Cincinatti for the Nov 11-12 weekend. Now have to make hotel reservations and air flight reservations. Soanyone want to share a room? Any sights (Fjord or otherwise) I should try to take in at the same time? I might stay a bit longer if there are things I really must see! TIA Gail Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: couple of ideas: NFHR Eval.
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] In my aimless musings =)) I happened to think of how wonderful it would be if a conformation/evaluation educational video could be made for the overall general Fjord public. Ruthie, NW MT Ruthie, Don't discount those aimless musings, they actually might go somewhere! Actually, I was thinking about the Evaluations the other day,(while dragging the pastures!) I was trying to figure out a way to A) make them more economic for people that had more than a couple of horses to show, and B) more accessable, by possibly tying in with an established fjord showand this is what I came up with: What about offering a couple of the performance tests as classes at a fjord show ? For example, offer the beginning draft test. If the horse allready had a qualifying conformation score, and it recieved a good test score, then it could go into it's overall score. Of course the judge for the show would have to be qualified as a NFHR Eval. judge. So, you are all wondering, what about a second judge? Well how about having a pre-qualified Learner judge as #2 Judge? Even if this were to never gain approval w/ the NFHR, what about the various shows offering a couple of performance tests to help get people horses acquainted with the system? I am going to try to do this at next years Turlock show. If anyone has anymore brillant ideas, pro or con, let me know... Karen in semi-stormy N.Nevada _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
Re: Another Idea from the Eval. Seminar
This message is from: Margaret Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Sent: Saturday, April 08, 2000 9:34 AM Subject: Another Idea from the Eval. Seminar This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] FJORD FORUM at the Regional or National LEVEL I am thinking about hosting a WEST COAST FJORD FORUM in November here at our farm if there is interest. 1. Education on training, evaluations, feeding... 2. Forums on promotional event, breeding, history and any other subject 3. One on one, group to group, gathering of the minds 4. Social time to get to know the people involved and to share ideas, thoughts and the LOVE OF THE FJORD. Anyone have interest in going??? having a West Coast Fjord Forum in Nov. 2000??? Anyone in helping to teach or instruct??? You can email me in person or via the list... [EMAIL PROTECTED] How about having this event in conjunction with the Scandifest show in Turlock, Calif at the end of September or here in Southern California when the Europeans are here for the Dutch Keuring in mid October? I think this would allow more people to attend by consolidating events. Margaret Strachan Village Farm Nuevo, CA http://www.pe.net/~barry/
Re: Another Idea from the Eval. Seminar
This message is from: John and Martie Bolinski [EMAIL PROTECTED] Catherine, I would LOVE a forum such as you suggest. But I am on the EAST coast. How about it folks, anyone on the East coast interested?? Martie in MD Catherine Lassesen wrote:FJORD FORUM at the Regional or National LEVEL A place where Fjord owners can come and be educated and to discuss Fjord subjects FACE TO FACE.
Another Idea from the Eval. Seminar
This message is from: Catherine Lassesen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Here's another subject that was brought up at the Seminar in CO. Remember... I am just the person throwing out the ideasSome are mine, some are from others too shy to write in... Catherine Lassesen, Oregon FJORD FORUM at the Regional or National LEVEL A place where Fjord owners can come and be educated and to discuss Fjord subjects FACE TO FACE. I see that we can start at the regional level and move towards a national level. Prices best for our group would be to have it in RENO or LAS VEGAS. (For the National Level) I am thinking about hosting a WEST COAST FJORD FORUM in November here at our farm if there is interest. 1. Education on training, evaluations, feeding... 2. Forums on promotional event, breeding, history and any other subject 3. One on one, group to group, gathering of the minds 4. Social time to get to know the people involved and to share ideas, thoughts and the LOVE OF THE FJORD. Anyone have interest in going??? having a West Coast Fjord Forum in Nov. 2000??? Anyone in helping to teach or instruct??? You can email me in person or via the list... [EMAIL PROTECTED] If we all learn and educate ourselves to improve just one thing about our farm, breeding program, riding program or the lives of our Fjords... is it not worth it? My 2 cents worth.. Catherine Lassesen (OK Shoot me, All I need is another project to do...)
Re: NFHR 3/8/00 BOD Minutes, Breed standard and Eval stuff
This message is from: Mark and Lisa McGinley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks Mike, I'm heading out tomorrow to western Montana to pick up three Fjords from Phil Petty (I only get to keep one!) and I printed out both the Evaluation info and the Breed Standard for some casual reading when I'm not driving. Thanks for getting those up on the web site. If anyone wants to get a hold of me I'll be gone a week. Yippee! Mark McGinley Mariposa Farm Washburn, Wisconsin
Re: Eval 2000
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: Larson [EMAIL PROTECTED] If we can get organized in time, maybe we could help (in grunt fashion) with the 2000 eval in Co Springs/Carson City. I'm hoping it's later in the year, though, as May is foaling month here. Your thought about helping out is certainly appreciated...and I know, I myself would certainly reciprocate in kind... So far it looks like mid July is the date we are shooting for,for Carson City, and so far so good as far as arena avail and (most) of the judges are concerned...We only need some commitments from owners and breeders. This is serious folks, LETS make it happen! __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: NFHR publications/Eval. Results
This message is from: Karen McCarthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ursula, I think that a handbook is long overdue. Perhaps we don't have to go to the extent of colour printing, but if it contains a decently scanned BW photo - great! The idea Mary presented re. publishing the individual scores, is right on, as far as I am concerned. This is the very essence of the Evaluation, and I think it will help to keep the judging more accountable, ( more on that later), and when I participated in WB Breeding shows w/ my Trakehner, the scores were posted publicly and available to all. I think it is a very good way to learn, and keep things on an even keel , all at the same time. The judging as it stands now, could use some tweaking as well, IMO. We have 2 judges in the arena, conferring all along w/ each other, and possibly swaying each others decisions one way or the other as well...I know it happens, as I have seen the x'd out numbers on the score sheets. If each judge was scoring independently of the other, and each had a scribe to assist in recording the comments as they were given,and then the scores were averaged, ( like in a dressage test), I think that would be an improvement. Then, when all the horses were brought out and ranked, and the judges wanted to make a comment about why they felt one horse was stronger as compared to another, they would have the opportunity to discuss with each other, before the participants. I realise that this process is still in it's infancy, nothing is ever perfect, but we can only try to close the gaps... Good thoughts and discussion tonite - keep it up! Karen ___ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com
Re: Agenda for NFHR conference call Stallion Eval.
This message is from: SUSAN L GIARGIARI [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello to myself, What's the matter with you! You forgot to get rid of the letter you were replying to! Like everybody wants to read it all over again! OK. it won't happen againpromise. Sorry! Sue G. --
Re: Bored Fjord - Cyber Eval
This message is from: Gail Russell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, my computer seems OK, and the pictures of FJ are still there. But running a bit to catch up from two days of fooling with my computer. Re bored Fjords: Just leave something you value within reach. Gunthar chewed my brand new stirrup leathers (on the saddle) when I turned my back for a minute. He chews the reins if you sit around on him while at a clinic (this horse does not take the bit in his teeth, he grabs for the reins!) He knows how to flick his head down so a loose rein will fall into his mouth so he can chew. Sure feels funny trying to ride him when he has one of the reins in his teeth. Or you can leave all the grooming equipment within reach of the paddock. They'll spread it all over the paddock, including picking it up and carrying it 50 feet away. :) Back soon. Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Manners/Cyber Eval.
This message is from: Cynthia_Madden/OAA/UNO/[EMAIL PROTECTED] To Terry, Regarding Patrick's ground manners/dominance issues. When we got Tank as a 2-year old, he had never been halter broken. We used Linda Tellington-Jones TTeam methods to teach him and had great success. If you do not have access to her books or tapes, let me know. In fact, Tank has apparently forgotten some of what he knows about this over the winter and we are about to start a little retraining session, especially before my granddaughters come to visit. If anyone has any good ideas about the mouthiness issue, I would like to know about it. It is Tank's only real irritating trait. I know a lot of Fjords are like this. One of my favorite images of Blue Earth is seeing the Fjords in their stalls standing in the corner so that four of them can have nose conversations. Cyber evaluations - Tank and I have discussed this. He is perfectly willing to share the limelight with Gunther. He doesn't care what you say about him as long as you ARE talking about him. I can't wait to hear what Julie will have to report after her visit to Norway. On evalutions - As Tank is a gelding, I have no plans to enter him in a evaluation other than if it becomes a vanity issue. I do feel they are essential for breeders and it behooves (is that orginally a horse term?) non-breeders who have Fjords to know what constitutes a good Fjord. The shows at Woodstock, Turlock, Libby and Blue Earth are times for everyone to get together to show off their horses and have fun! They are very much family occassions. My granddaughters come every year for Blue Earth and have a blast. I compare Blue Earth to a chataqua event. I hope that more evaluations can be made available to breeders and the issue of their availability is important given their numbers and geographic spread. Another point of evaulations is to recognize stallions that are superior for breeding. I for one want to hear a big cheer for geldings! They are always there for you - not worried about mares or babies or seasons, just about their next meal. More geldings are a good thing. They are very marketable as using horses. Let's have the best stallions for breeding and the best geldings for using and lets have lots of places to show them off so that the public wants to buy them! But don't forget we need good quality mares also. Cynthia Madden, Coordinator Office of Sponsored Programs Research University of Nebraska at Omaha
