Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers!
AA6YQ comments below -Original Message- From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:34 AM To: Dave AA6YQ Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers! Hi Dave I don't really have an opinion. Before the i-series Intel processors, AMD had a better approach with its integrated memory controller within the CPU and it could leverage its L2 cache in unganged mode (I guess theoretically) better than Core 2 Duo processors. Intel, however, killed the competition because it could reduce the die size while increasing the number of transistors and reducing the power(heat), so the Core 2 Duo outshone the original Athlon architecture. Intel has moved into the integrated memory controller space now with the I series and I suppose it has narrowed that gap so at the high end, Intel rules. AMD is trying to catch up on the die race but its still behind. But the reason I have no real opinion is that, outside of deciding whether to gang or ungang the memory controllers (and the motherboards default to unganged which seems to work better in multi-core chips), I don't have any real means of manipulating anything. There's the option to choose a processor with a larger or more effective cache, as you point out below. Windows and PowerSDR are what they are. Its interesting to see two different approaches to architectural cache in the same spec'ed processor. AMD has the Athlon 2 x2 250 which is the extension of the older memory architecture (no L3 cache, smaller L2 cache, strictly a DDR2-limited chip) and the x2 550 which has the same number of cores and processor speed but has a large l3 cache, higher memory access speed capability, DDR3 access, etc. In benchmark tests, the 550 of course does better as performance tests probably will show the advantage of the L3 cache. It scores 10-15% better in benchmarks if memory serves correct. But the X2 550 cost $90 while the X2 250 costs $60 and I have no problems getting 20us DPCs out of the X2 250. So did the L3 architecture provide any visible boost over the older architecture and at was it worth the 50% increase in price? I stuck with the 250. Seems reasonable. Would that $30 buy anything in terms of the ability to run non-trivial applications in parallel with PowerSDR? 73, Dave, AA6YQ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers!
Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] import database
There is a note in knowledgebase recommending the use of k9dur utility to load the database to a new release. If we should use that utility why is the import database button still in the setup? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] install firmware
What is the correct way to load a new release of firmware. I have gone to the flex web page and downloaded the firmware and it is loaded into the eprom . However if I go to knowledgebase , a two step process is given. I have done that and it seems to produce the same result. IM confused. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] import database
They do two different functions. The pSDR import function makes an old DB into the working DB using a copy function. Potentially overwriting new system default parameters. Ray's K9DUR utility copies only user defined parameters into a working database leaving the parts of the working DB that are hardware/DSP specific alone, which can preserve new default parameters a new database has created. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Art Holmes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:22 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] import database There is a note in knowledgebase recommending the use of k9dur utility to load the database to a new release. If we should use that utility why is the import database button still in the setup? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] install firmware
You are going to have to be more explicit in describing the two ways of updating the firmware. There is the way for 1.x.x.x firmware by downloading it from the web page and running the firmware auto burn method (http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50397.aspx ) and the new beta way of installing firmware that will be instituted when PowerSDR 2.0 is released where you use the Firewire control panel to select the firmware binary and load it from there ( http://kc.flex-radio.com/KnowledgebaseArticle50441.aspx ). In the new way, you load the firmware binaries on your PC as the first step, but it is not actually loaded into the radio until you do the second step which is using the FLEX Firewire control panel to perform the actual firmware load. This new or beta way is provided for people who are testing the alpha/beta versions of PowerSDR. Also, just a small point of clarification, firmware is actually stored in flash memory. Radio parameters are stored in the EEPROM. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Art Holmes Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:27 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] install firmware What is the correct way to load a new release of firmware. I have gone to the flex web page and downloaded the firmware and it is loaded into the eprom . However if I go to knowledgebase , a two step process is given. I have done that and it seems to produce the same result. IM confused. ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-ready computers!
The interesting thing about all this is the DPC latency vs. performance is a binary situation. It works until it doesn't. You don't observe a gradual degradation of performance. I think what you are dealing with when you are within the acceptable range of DPC latency is headroom to a certain degree. I have to agree with Neal is if it works and you are happy, there really isn't a reason to muck with it or spend $200 bucks to get a 15% reduction in DPC latency if your average is below 100 us. Does lowering the DPC latency numbers give you better protection when running other programs? Absolutely not. Example, I have a Core 2 Duo machine whose average DPC latency is ~50us. I can load up several other programs, some ham related, others not and now my average latency numbers are ~110 us with spikes up to 250 us. Still VERY respectable. Now, I can load this one little OBNOXIOUS program and WHAM! PowerSDR locks up repeatedly and reproducibly. That program is MS Outlook using the HTTP/RPC transport. Will a 20us DPC latency machine stop this from happening? No, it will not because Outlook will still generate 4000+ us DPC latencies. The only way to reduce DPC latencies that are this high is to stop using programs that cause you grief. Now, if you average system DPC latency is on the order of 1000 us, then by all means getting a PC that has a MUCH lower average DPC latency will allow you to run things on your PC that you might otherwise not be able to do. The bottom line is usability. If PowerSDR is working with little to no (my preference) freezes, then it really doesn't matter. BTW, not all PowerSDR freezes are DPC related. If you have low DPC latency and PowerSDR is freezing up, you a RFI issue. Either near field RF exposure or more likely common mode RF currents are getting back into the computer via the Firewire cable. Makes sure the computer and SDR hardware are grounded well. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ross Stenberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:12 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers! Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Hi DPC's after upgrading Firewire, PSDR and F3K firmware
Hello all, I am using one of Neal's machines. The only programs I run on it are PowerSDR and Logic 8. Occasionally I'll read a PDF or use Fire Fox to download a file such as upgrades to Logic 8 or Flex software. Automatic updates from Microsoft are turned off. Prior to yesterday my DPU's averaged around 730 with Logic and PSDR and around 70 with just SPDR. Yesterday I installed the new fire wire driver 3.5.0.7171, PSDR 1.18.5 and firmware 1.2.5.6 for the F3K. After doing so, DPC's with just PSDR running shot to 340 DPC's. Under the System tab, I checked off Show inactive devices and show additional details and did a scan. I cannot remember if the old driver had this feature, never used it if it did. Anyway after doing this I saw a warning about sidspeed. My 1st thought is damn how can this be. Downloaded the hot fix mentioned in the knowledge base and installed. Now, with just SPDR running my DPC's are at 76. With logic 8 and PSDR the DPC's are up near around 1300 with an occasional spike to 1800. With Logic 8 I usually have one log window what they call a spotlog and a telnet connection for the spotlog. It also monitors three rigs for freq. If I run Logic 8 with out the telnet connection DPC's are between 175 and 200. I turn on the spot log and DPC's spike to around 350. Now turn on the telnet connection and DPc's go to 1300 with spikes in the 1800's. Any thoughts why this is happening? Prior to yesterday the highest was around 730. -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:52 AM To: Ross Stenberg; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-ready computers! The interesting thing about all this is the DPC latency vs. performance is a binary situation. It works until it doesn't. You don't observe a gradual degradation of performance. I think what you are dealing with when you are within the acceptable range of DPC latency is headroom to a certain degree. I have to agree with Neal is if it works and you are happy, there really isn't a reason to muck with it or spend $200 bucks to get a 15% reduction in DPC latency if your average is below 100 us. Does lowering the DPC latency numbers give you better protection when running other programs? Absolutely not. Example, I have a Core 2 Duo machine whose average DPC latency is ~50us. I can load up several other programs, some ham related, others not and now my average latency numbers are ~110 us with spikes up to 250 us. Still VERY respectable. Now, I can load this one little OBNOXIOUS program and WHAM! PowerSDR locks up repeatedly and reproducibly. That program is MS Outlook using the HTTP/RPC transport. Will a 20us DPC latency machine stop this from happening? No, it will not because Outlook will still generate 4000+ us DPC latencies. The only way to reduce DPC latencies that are this high is to stop using programs that cause you grief. Now, if you average system DPC latency is on the order of 1000 us, then by all means getting a PC that has a MUCH lower average DPC latency will allow you to run things on your PC that you might otherwise not be able to do. The bottom line is usability. If PowerSDR is working with little to no (my preference) freezes, then it really doesn't matter. BTW, not all PowerSDR freezes are DPC related. If you have low DPC latency and PowerSDR is freezing up, you a RFI issue. Either near field RF exposure or more likely common mode RF currents are getting back into the computer via the Firewire cable. Makes sure the computer and SDR hardware are grounded well. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ross Stenberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:12 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers! Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Manual
Is the manual for the 5000, with schematics, available on line? Thanks Fred W1FC ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Manual
No. You need to contact FlexRadio Sales (sa...@flex-radio.com) to see if you are eligible for a free copy of the service manual. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of w...@aol.com Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 10:48 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Manual Is the manual for the 5000, with schematics, available on line? Thanks Fred W1FC ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers!
I have asked this same question several different times in different ways and have not got a definitive answer yet. I believe there are some here who would have you believe that if you do not run WIN XP and have 20us DPC or less, PSDR is not going to run properly. My own one month experience with Flex 5000a shows this NOT to be true, Before I tweaked my computer I did not have DPC's under 400-500us and occasional blips at 1000us. The DPC checker in the Flex driver said I could run in normal mode. I instead ran in Safe mode 1 per the Flex manual. I had NO lockups and NO problems with audio RX or TX, made at least 50-60 QSOes cw and SSB and RTTY. Then I got to tweaking the computer. I run (HORRORS) Vista - I can run WIN XP but much prefer WIN Vista for many reasons. It is superior to Win XP in many areas. I refuse to give up the many improved features of Vista just to run a radio. I went to Black Viper and Tweak Hound websites. Tweaked my services as much as possible. Then I got the sysinternals program and eliminated Many programs I no longer even had from autorunning.. The end result after all this is my DPC's are now under 20 us. YES, I am running Vista with a 4 year old HP A1450n AMD 4200 dual core computer and get DPC's of 25 us or less Note my HP has an ASUS motherboard and I use the internal motherboard (Agere) Firewire port Low DPC's are very possible with an off the shelf computer that does not run Win XP.. You will have to work at it.. BUT - - - - - - - - - - - I notice NO difference in the operation of PSDR. It runs the same as it did before I did all the tweaking. My Present Take on all this: Tweaking is fine, it will not hurt. DPC differences between under 20us and a few hundred us will not show up in the operation of PSDR.. Stan K9IUQ Ross Stenberg wrote: Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Is this computer sufficent?
On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net wrote: On AM, the scope is useless as it only shows the audio waveform. Uh, I don't think that is correct. In the shack, its handy to have an Oscope to look at the transmitted waveform (to make sure the modulation looks good) and the received waveform to see what the other peoples modulation looks like. Yes. Actually the scope mode does show the RF envelope and would be useful for testing AM if the following were true: 1. there was some sort of easily-adjustable time-base with synchronization/triggering to stabilize the display; 2. the scope actually monitored the output of the transmitter after the PA. (Useful for any mode, not just AM.) Item 1 above requires some software effort. Item 2 above is possible to do if you can use the receiver (with appropriate attenuation) to monitor the output of the transmitter. If you really want a station monitor 'scope, I have the Kenwood station monitor/panadaptor that goes with the TS-520 or TS-820 I will let go. It will do what you want. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi All, I've finally got my brand new Flex3000 on air and have to say I am very pleased with the receiver performance! The filtering on CW is truly amazing! So my first real question to the group :) Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 in PSDR you can set the meter to read SWR during TX, which I have done, however regardless of the real SWR as measured on my SWR meter connected inline, the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1, however if I set the meter to REFPWR it shows a power reading when the SWR is high, IE: 2:1 which is correct. So can someone please do the same test and see if they get the same result, IE: the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1? If it works for you guys then perhaps my new F3K is faulty? I hope not, although the first one from the UK importer was DOA! I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
The SWR meter for all Flex SDRs only operates in TUN mode. It will not show SWR when you are transmitting in other modes. See page 39 on in the FLEX-13000 Owner's Manual. http://support.flex-radio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=271 -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:09 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading? Hi All, I've finally got my brand new Flex3000 on air and have to say I am very pleased with the receiver performance! The filtering on CW is truly amazing! So my first real question to the group :) Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 in PSDR you can set the meter to read SWR during TX, which I have done, however regardless of the real SWR as measured on my SWR meter connected inline, the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1, however if I set the meter to REFPWR it shows a power reading when the SWR is high, IE: 2:1 which is correct. So can someone please do the same test and see if they get the same result, IE: the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1? If it works for you guys then perhaps my new F3K is faulty? I hope not, although the first one from the UK importer was DOA! I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
Hi All, Just adding a few app's to my PSDR setup, I've downloaded and installed Comm-O-Comm and have it working perfectly with Band Master DX Cluster Client, I can now click a DXC spot and PSDR tunes instantly, great! My next thought was how do I get fldigi to talk to PSDR when the com port is already in use by Bandmaster? Until now I have always used Ubuntu Linux with fldigi and Hamlib which allows multiple app's to talk to the same radio on the same com port without any problems at all using RPC, however I am now running windows xp ( :( ) on a dedicated PC for the Flex3000 and have no idea how to get two applications to use the same comport for comm's to PSDR? Please excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I have used windows xp in about 10 years! ... Until now I always had Apple Mac and Linux in the shack with my FT1000MP and Tentec Omni Vi, both of which have been replaced by the F3K ;) I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi Mike. I'm observing the same swr meter reading you are even on SSB -Larry On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi All, I've finally got my brand new Flex3000 on air and have to say I am very pleased with the receiver performance! The filtering on CW is truly amazing! So my first real question to the group :) Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 in PSDR you can set the meter to read SWR during TX, which I have done, however regardless of the real SWR as measured on my SWR meter connected inline, the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1, however if I set the meter to REFPWR it shows a power reading when the SWR is high, IE: 2:1 which is correct. So can someone please do the same test and see if they get the same result, IE: the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1? If it works for you guys then perhaps my new F3K is faulty? I hope not, although the first one from the UK importer was DOA! I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
It is easy. DDUtil http://k5fr.com/ddutilwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike Tatum Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 12:20 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm! Hi All, Just adding a few app's to my PSDR setup, I've downloaded and installed Comm-O-Comm and have it working perfectly with Band Master DX Cluster Client, I can now click a DXC spot and PSDR tunes instantly, great! My next thought was how do I get fldigi to talk to PSDR when the com port is already in use by Bandmaster? Until now I have always used Ubuntu Linux with fldigi and Hamlib which allows multiple app's to talk to the same radio on the same com port without any problems at all using RPC, however I am now running windows xp ( :( ) on a dedicated PC for the Flex3000 and have no idea how to get two applications to use the same comport for comm's to PSDR? Please excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I have used windows xp in about 10 years! ... Until now I always had Apple Mac and Linux in the shack with my FT1000MP and Tentec Omni Vi, both of which have been replaced by the F3K ;) I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers!
Hi Stan Whats the question you haven't gotten an answer to yet? I understand you don't like XP but didn't understand what you were asking! As Tim said, if your machine, however you configure it, isn't misbehaving and you are happy with it, you shouldn't buy a new one period. Whether thats with Bootcamped Macintoshes, XP, Vista, Win7, etc. if it works for you, it just works. You can buy a machine at a store and it can work fine. I hope I provided some background from what I have experienced to help you choose that machine. If you like to build machines, I hope I can help you choose the right parts. When people ask me whats the best performing configuration, the answer is XP (home or pro). I can prove it. It doesn't mean its the ONLY configuration and I personally love Win7 (I now use it more than OS X even on my MacBook Pro!) but its not as performant. It is very likely that, on most systems, if you are working well in XP, you can be working well with Win7. Systems with dual core cpus under 2.5Ghz and small L2 caches are not systems I would make a guess on that, but YMMV. My goal is not to convince anyone that they shouldn't use Vista, Win7, XP or whatever nor scare you into buying my computers or not going to Best Buy and getting one of their $500 computers.I consider the service I provide in selling my own computers to be: 1. I have tested a lot of configurations so you are guaranteed to be getting one that works and works well 2. I have installed a lot of systems so you are guaranteed to be getting one that gives you the most performance for the buck 3. I have configured a lot of PowerSDR/HRD/MixW/fldigi/DXBase/DXLabs/MMTTY/AR User/N1MM/Writelog/etc/etc/etc. systems so you are getting something that is plug and play out of the box. Just getting the DPCs low isn't my business. And, I would be very happy to sell anyone a computer but I am just as happy to see you do it yourself and enjoy doing it. The goal is to let the Ferrari of a radio we call Flex-radios shine. We all are trying to make that easier for the newbie who thinks is hard to do. But there are a lot of folks that don't want to go thru the learning curve or take the time to do it themselves. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers!
Hi Ross My take on whether things work or not is whether you see PowerSDR turn itself off at an unacceptable rate (to you, not anyone else). I am sure that spikes of 1000us are absolutely fine as long as they do not last more than 1 or 2 bars on DPCLat, but again, if you do not hear a break in audio nor see the software turn itself off, you have a great working computer. As I said before, my goal of 20uz is what I can achieve with reasonably priced components so why accept something higher if you are custom-building a machine (which is what I do)? If you already have a machine that doesn't do 20us but doesn't break up, why spend a nickel to get 20us? Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 9:12 AM, Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.netwrote: Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading?
Hi All: My 5000A does the same thing, I remember asking this same question when I first noticed this and was told this is OK, not to worry. Try using the TUNE button and set the meter to SWR, then you´ll see the correct SWR reading. Mario - Original Message - From: Larry da Ponte n7bcp.la...@gmail.com To: Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Flex3000 No SWR Reading? Hi Mike. I'm observing the same swr meter reading you are even on SSB -Larry On Feb 14, 2010, at 9:09 AM, Mike Tatum m...@f5vkm.com wrote: Hi All, I've finally got my brand new Flex3000 on air and have to say I am very pleased with the receiver performance! The filtering on CW is truly amazing! So my first real question to the group :) Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 in PSDR you can set the meter to read SWR during TX, which I have done, however regardless of the real SWR as measured on my SWR meter connected inline, the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1, however if I set the meter to REFPWR it shows a power reading when the SWR is high, IE: 2:1 which is correct. So can someone please do the same test and see if they get the same result, IE: the PSDR SWR reading is always 0.0:1? If it works for you guys then perhaps my new F3K is faulty? I hope not, although the first one from the UK importer was DOA! I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] re install firmware.
I am running power sdr v 1.1.8.5. If I download firmware 1.3.0.8 and run from the flex website, I get the same result as following the recommended more complicated two step process of download, save and then install. What am I missing? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Dedicate PC for Flex
Ronald G. Parsons wrote: Now I have two computers dedicated to my FLEX -- the second being a netbook on my desk which I connect to the FLEX remotely from the den. A long firewire cable? How long? So, whether you have one, two, (or more) computers for your FLEX, it's YOUR personal choice. Ron W5RKN -- Regards, TOM BLACKWELL, PO Box 25403, Dallas, Texas 75225 http://N5GAR.Org ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] UCB-DDUTIL transverter control
I am in the process of building one of the K3TUF UCB board kits and I hope to use it with DDutil to control numerous transverters down the road with my 5K. I am a bit confused on the setup and would like to corespond with someone who is running this type of setup with their 5k. Looking at the old versions of PSDR it looks like you could specify any or all of the 16 relays with a UCB setup screen but I don't see it in 1.18.3 it seems that only the transverter setup screen has any UCB info on it and it is not clear to me what relays would be actuated by these settings. Also looking for reccomendations on a transfer relay that could be easily controled by this setup with multiple RF taps, at least 4 and up to 8. 73, Bob KA9UVY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Dedicate PC for Flex
Alan If you see these spikes and nothing is disrupted in PSDR, there really isn't a problem is there? Do you have any symptoms of a problem while running the radio? If you are having problems, I would not invest any more in that motherboard/cpu/memory. AMD Athlon X2 250 - $65, ASUS M2A74 microATX motherboard - $60, 2GB of G. Skill DDR2-1066 memory - $53. For $178 you can have a retooled system that will really work well. Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 8:44 PM, Alan NV8A n...@charter.net wrote: On 02/13/10 04:53 pm, Neal Campbell wrote: I don't think the 3DConnexion device is a logitech so it sounds like you don't have the config I was talking about but instead have the one I recommend. 3DConnexion is now a Logitech company but was not originally, it seems. You might google for a program called processhacker.exe and run it while you are running your PSDR setup. It acually has an entry for DPCs in the display and color codes those processes that are grabbing a lot of resources. You might luck out and see what pops in and out when you see the 7000us spike which will provide more to investigate. I installed ProcessHacker 1.11, the latest that is claimed to be stable. It does indeed show a line for DPC, but all it tells me is the CPU usage. Even when DPClat showed a spike of 2500, I could find nothing in ProcessHacker to tell me what had caused that spike. ProcessHacker did give me some useful information, however. Since it showed me the path of some processes that were running, I could see that they were part of CA Internet Security, and I killed them off. I then Googled 'ProcessHacker,exe DPCs' in the hope of finding out how to have the program tell me what programs or processes were responsible for the DPC spikes. I did not find that information, but I found on a PreSonus forum a thread dealing with DPCs. One suggestion was to run processhacker from the command line with parameters that would suspend acpi.sys (but it needs to be reenabled before shutting the machine down). Also in that thread was a link to an official PreSonus document that says that the nForce4 chipset is the cause of many DPC problems -- precisely the chipset on my motherboard. So do I now (a) put up with it; (b) find a different Socket939 motherboard, so I don't have to buy a new CPU and new RAM (but I would undoubtedly still have to reinstall Windozzze); or (c) get a more recent motherboard with compatible CPU and RAM (and again I would have to reinstall Windozzze)? One other type of software I avoid is the video card display managers (like ATI's Catalyst, etc). These things are almost as onerous as Logitech stuff and again you just need the drivers, Windows can manage the rest unless you are a gamer and want to overclock the GPU, etc. I already had Catalyst disabled. 73 Alan NV8A ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] UCB-DDUTIL transverter control
If you are running the SDR1000, the ext ctrl panel is available in SETUP, but the 5000 does not display it. This is with the current PowerSDR V 18.5. On my 1000, I use this panel to set up bandswitching for my quadra amp. Seems to me that the UCB would work just as well through DDutil with the 5000, assuming the voltage levels from the parallel port are similar to the voltage levels at the 1000's ext ctrl port. (They may or may not be.) I understand Phil is working on the prototype for the flexwire interface for his UCB. Maybe then we can use it for the 5000 directly from PowerSDR. Jerry W4UK At 03:58 PM 2/14/2010, Robert delaney wrote: I am in the process of building one of the K3TUF UCB board kits and I hope to use it with DDutil to control numerous transverters down the road with my 5K. I am a bit confused on the setup and would like to corespond with someone who is running this type of setup with their 5k. Looking at the old versions of PSDR it looks like you could specify any or all of the 16 relays with a UCB setup screen but I don't see it in 1.18.3 it seems that only the transverter setup screen has any UCB info on it and it is not clear to me what relays would be actuated by these settings. Also looking for reccomendations on a transfer relay that could be easily controled by this setup with multiple RF taps, at least 4 and up to 8. 73, Bob KA9UVY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] [Flexedge] flexwire
I have some boards left over from another project that could talk flexwire, but what does it say or hear?! I could listen and see what it says under various conditions but figuring out what commands it might respect is a bit problematic. Do we have any even preliminary and/or varying per svn data on this?? Jim - W4YXU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Mic Voltage 5000a
Can someone help, I had a short in my mic, which I corrected, but no longer have any voltage available when I connect the mic to the 5000a, I assume there is a current limiting device, resistor or regulatory in the radio that I need to replace but I can't find it on the schematics. Anyone know which board I should look on first? Thanks Fred W1FC ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-ready computers!
Maybe if you are on the hairy edge? If I run normal mode, with very low audio buffers, everything works fine, until I make a recording and try and play it back, then the radio starts stuttering and is unusable. So maybe the dpc numbers impact something like this? On the slow laptop, I cant even run in normal mode without problems and the delay in the monitor is VERY long. Brett - Original Message - From: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com To: Ross Stenberg ross.stenb...@charter.net; flexradio@flex-radio.biz FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-ready computers! The interesting thing about all this is the DPC latency vs. performance is a binary situation. It works until it doesn't. You don't observe a gradual degradation of performance. I think what you are dealing with when you are within the acceptable range of DPC latency is headroom to a certain degree. I have to agree with Neal is if it works and you are happy, there really isn't a reason to muck with it or spend $200 bucks to get a 15% reduction in DPC latency if your average is below 100 us. Does lowering the DPC latency numbers give you better protection when running other programs? Absolutely not. Example, I have a Core 2 Duo machine whose average DPC latency is ~50us. I can load up several other programs, some ham related, others not and now my average latency numbers are ~110 us with spikes up to 250 us. Still VERY respectable. Now, I can load this one little OBNOXIOUS program and WHAM! PowerSDR locks up repeatedly and reproducibly. That program is MS Outlook using the HTTP/RPC transport. Will a 20us DPC latency machine stop this from happening? No, it will not because Outlook will still generate 4000+ us DPC latencies. The only way to reduce DPC latencies that are this high is to stop using programs that cause you grief. Now, if you average system DPC latency is on the order of 1000 us, then by all means getting a PC that has a MUCH lower average DPC latency will allow you to run things on your PC that you might otherwise not be able to do. The bottom line is usability. If PowerSDR is working with little to no (my preference) freezes, then it really doesn't matter. BTW, not all PowerSDR freezes are DPC related. If you have low DPC latency and PowerSDR is freezing up, you a RFI issue. Either near field RF exposure or more likely common mode RF currents are getting back into the computer via the Firewire cable. Makes sure the computer and SDR hardware are grounded well. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ross Stenberg Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:12 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Things I have learned after 8 months selling Flex-readycomputers! Neil, thank you for sharing your knowledge with us. I see that your goal is avg 20us DPCs. What is your take on performance hits due to higher DPCs? I believe the Flex position is that performance should be acceptable if DPCs are no more that 1000us as shown on the their driver DPC latency checker. Does it really make a difference if ones DPC is 138us or 543us? 73 Ross K9COX ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Comm Oh Comm!
Read up on hub4com - it can connect serials together, so multiple apps can share one port. Might work for you. Jerry W4UK At 12:20 PM 2/14/2010, Mike Tatum wrote: Hi All, Just adding a few app's to my PSDR setup, I've downloaded and installed Comm-O-Comm and have it working perfectly with Band Master DX Cluster Client, I can now click a DXC spot and PSDR tunes instantly, great! My next thought was how do I get fldigi to talk to PSDR when the com port is already in use by Bandmaster? Until now I have always used Ubuntu Linux with fldigi and Hamlib which allows multiple app's to talk to the same radio on the same com port without any problems at all using RPC, however I am now running windows xp ( :( ) on a dedicated PC for the Flex3000 and have no idea how to get two applications to use the same comport for comm's to PSDR? Please excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I have used windows xp in about 10 years! ... Until now I always had Apple Mac and Linux in the shack with my FT1000MP and Tentec Omni Vi, both of which have been replaced by the F3K ;) I look forward to hearing from you. Thanks. Mike Flex3000 PSDR v1.18.5 FW Driver v3.5.0.7171 F3K Firmware v1.2.5.6 M0AWS / F5VKM http://www.f5vkm.com ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
I believe the addition of that mode will be an upcoming feature in PowerSDR after the V/U module for the FLEX-1500 is released. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of David McKenzie Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 5:51 PM To: flexradio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
What is legal besides NBFM? We are adding full FM repeater support including tones, proper shaping of the audio (which is what I think you mean instead of what you said). this is for everything but is precipitated by v/u. Bob --Original Message-- From: David McKenzie Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz To: flexradio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Sent: Feb 14, 2010 5:51 PM I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
Bob, Apparently you are of the opinion that VHF activity is limited to sideband and FM repeaters. There is plenty of 2 meter simplex action in New England, both horizontally and vertically polarized. There is also a good deal of 6 meter FM during openings for when you are sick of the '59 goodbye' contacts. In its current form, I don't believe the deviation is wide enough to sound full on a decent 2 meter rig. One thing is for sure, the FM transmit quality between my IC-271 and the Flex is astounding. If proper shaping of the audio fixes this, I'll be a happy camper. 73's Dave K1FSY On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: What is legal besides NBFM? We are adding full FM repeater support including tones, proper shaping of the audio (which is what I think you mean instead of what you said). this is for everything but is precipitated by v/u. Bob --Original Message-- From: David McKenzie Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz To: flexradio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Sent: Feb 14, 2010 5:51 PM I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
That was not my question. as a VHF/UHF operator I am aware. I asked if it was legal to be wider than nbfm. The principal difficulty with our FM system is the lack of any pre-emphasis and deemphasis (audio shaping). At the request of several people, specifically some in Europe, we narrowed the deviation to make the radio and software legal. Thus my question. It was a serious one, not flippant. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: David McKenzie k1...@vhfwiki.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:57:03 To: rwmcgw...@gmail.com Cc: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz; flexradio Reflectorflexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Bob, Apparently you are of the opinion that VHF activity is limited to sideband and FM repeaters. There is plenty of 2 meter simplex action in New England, both horizontally and vertically polarized. There is also a good deal of 6 meter FM during openings for when you are sick of the '59 goodbye' contacts. In its current form, I don't believe the deviation is wide enough to sound full on a decent 2 meter rig. One thing is for sure, the FM transmit quality between my IC-271 and the Flex is astounding. If proper shaping of the audio fixes this, I'll be a happy camper. 73's Dave K1FSY On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: What is legal besides NBFM? We are adding full FM repeater support including tones, proper shaping of the audio (which is what I think you mean instead of what you said). this is for everything but is precipitated by v/u. Bob --Original Message-- From: David McKenzie Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz To: flexradio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Sent: Feb 14, 2010 5:51 PM I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] UCB-DDUTIL transverter control
Oh no.. I did not realize that support for mapping the various bands to the X2 pins on the SDR1000 is missing, or is it placed somewhere else, or is there an option setting to get the tab back? Robert delaney wrote: I am in the process of building one of the K3TUF UCB board kits and I hope to use it with DDutil to control numerous transverters down the road with my 5K. I am a bit confused on the setup and would like to corespond with someone who is running this type of setup with their 5k. Looking at the old versions of PSDR it looks like you could specify any or all of the 16 relays with a UCB setup screen but I don't see it in 1.18.3 it seems that only the transverter setup screen has any UCB info on it and it is not clear to me what relays would be actuated by these settings. Also looking for reccomendations on a transfer relay that could be easily controled by this setup with multiple RF taps, at least 4 and up to 8. 73, Bob KA9UVY ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Is this computer sufficent?
Mine does not show a true waveform of the TX AM signal. It does not show modulation in the negative direction. it shows the carrier on TX, and the positive modulation. I don't need any sort of sync setup, I have a scope on the IF of the homebrew receiver and it shows a nice waveform on transmit and receive, without any sync. I was told the display in the flex uses the receiver to monitor the transmit signal. What I would like the flex to do is to do what the scope and homebrew receiver do, show an accurate display of the AM modulation. Brett - Original Message - From: Brian Lloyd brian-wb6...@lloyd.com To: Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net Cc: Tim Ellison telli...@itsco.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 11:41 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Is this computer sufficent? On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 7:33 PM, Brett Gazdzinski brett.gazdzin...@verizon.net wrote: On AM, the scope is useless as it only shows the audio waveform. Uh, I don't think that is correct. In the shack, its handy to have an Oscope to look at the transmitted waveform (to make sure the modulation looks good) and the received waveform to see what the other peoples modulation looks like. Yes. Actually the scope mode does show the RF envelope and would be useful for testing AM if the following were true: 1. there was some sort of easily-adjustable time-base with synchronization/triggering to stabilize the display; 2. the scope actually monitored the output of the transmitter after the PA. (Useful for any mode, not just AM.) Item 1 above requires some software effort. Item 2 above is possible to do if you can use the receiver (with appropriate attenuation) to monitor the output of the transmitter. If you really want a station monitor 'scope, I have the Kenwood station monitor/panadaptor that goes with the TS-520 or TS-820 I will let go. It will do what you want. -- 73 de Brian, WB6RQN/J79BPL ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM?
My apologies if my reply came over as hostile, I'm used to having to defend VHF as something more than former CBers on repeaters. I'm not familiar with the European rules, but from what I have dug up it looks like narrow FM is 20K0F3E emission above 10 meters. Most NBFM radios look to be set up for a maximum 5KHz deviation for roughly 15KHz bandwidth. Using a deviation meter I just measured a 2.6KHz deviation from the Flex-3000 on 51.500MHz using the built-in two tone test. I'm wondering if it will be possible to fatten the deviation to at least 4KHz, which is what I consider adequate for high quality FM QSOs, and on par with $150 mobile rigs. On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 7:17 PM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: That was not my question. as a VHF/UHF operator I am aware. I asked if it was legal to be wider than nbfm. The principal difficulty with our FM system is the lack of any pre-emphasis and deemphasis (audio shaping). At the request of several people, specifically some in Europe, we narrowed the deviation to make the radio and software legal. Thus my question. It was a serious one, not flippant. Bob Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -- *From: * David McKenzie k1...@vhfwiki.com *Date: *Sun, 14 Feb 2010 18:57:03 -0500 *To: *rwmcgw...@gmail.com *Cc: *flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz; flexradio Reflector flexradio@flex-radio.biz *Subject: *Re: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Bob, Apparently you are of the opinion that VHF activity is limited to sideband and FM repeaters. There is plenty of 2 meter simplex action in New England, both horizontally and vertically polarized. There is also a good deal of 6 meter FM during openings for when you are sick of the '59 goodbye' contacts. In its current form, I don't believe the deviation is wide enough to sound full on a decent 2 meter rig. One thing is for sure, the FM transmit quality between my IC-271 and the Flex is astounding. If proper shaping of the audio fixes this, I'll be a happy camper. 73's Dave K1FSY On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Bob McGwier rwmcgw...@gmail.com wrote: What is legal besides NBFM? We are adding full FM repeater support including tones, proper shaping of the audio (which is what I think you mean instead of what you said). this is for everything but is precipitated by v/u. Bob --Original Message-- From: David McKenzie Sender: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz To: flexradio Reflector Subject: [Flexradio] Will Flex-1500 have wide FM? Sent: Feb 14, 2010 5:51 PM I ragchew on 2 meter simplex FM and have a transverter that can do it, but since my flex-3000 only does narrow FM, it sounds like crap on transmit. Is the 1500 going to support reasonable FM performance? ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Did anyone visit the Flex booth in Orlando?
Just wondering what people's first impression of the FLEX-1500 was. -Tim - W4TME ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Did anyone visit the Flex booth in Orlando?
Tim, Yes, it was totally awesome to see it in action. It was great to see Greg and the rest of the crew. Very small and light weight. Can't wait to receive mine! 73, Mack WB4MAK From: telli...@itsco.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; flexra...@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 20:50:48 -0500 Subject: [Flexradio] Did anyone visit the Flex booth in Orlando? Just wondering what people's first impression of the FLEX-1500 was. -Tim - W4TME ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Slow Tuning With V1.18.5
I just updated from V1.18.3 from V1.18.5 and noticed on Panadpter if I click and drag to change frequency it is painfully slow. When I drag the signals seem to freeze and then catch up with the cursor. I used SDRData Transfer program to move the database. I'm using Windows XP with a Dell dual core 2.13 GHz computer. If I start V1.18.3 the response is very quick. Am I missing something when I changed to V1.18.5/ 73. Ron ny3j ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Slow Tuning With V1.18.5
Noticed that also. Maybe back to 1.18.3 is for me. Will try it tomorrow. BTW, I ALWAYS start with a fresh database. Saves hearing the I told you to reset the database!! amd64x2 5000 3g ram. DPC averages in the 20's and peaks at almost 100 with everything, plus the latest model of kitchen sink running. Even OUTLOOK (2003) doesn't cause a problem here, but I am surprised. Jim W4YXU From: Ron Wenig rwe...@verizon.net To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Sun, February 14, 2010 9:46:55 PM Subject: [Flexradio] Slow Tuning With V1.18.5 I just updated from V1.18.3 from V1.18.5 and noticed on Panadpter if I click and drag to change frequency it is painfully slow. When I drag the signals seem to freeze and then catch up with the cursor. I used SDRData Transfer program to move the database. I'm using Windows XP with a Dell dual core 2.13 GHz computer. If I start V1.18.3 the response is very quick. Am I missing something when I changed to V1.18.5/ 73. Ron ny3j ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
[Flexradio] Consistent Sound Output on PSDR V1.18.5
New to Flex 3000 by about a week but gaining great momentum. Seems that when I use PSDR V1.18.3 I can start/stop, turn off/on, etc and have audio output every time. When I installed and use V1.18.5 I have found that occasionally when I start there is no audio. I can even recycle the Flex with no change. If I reboot the computer then the audio output is fine. Once this failure has occurred I can stop V1.18.5, close it and then open V1.18.3 and all is fine - every time. Firmware is V1.2.5.6 FlexDriver is V3.5.0.7171 OS is Windows XP - SP3 Thanks for the help. Jon W1JDB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Consistent Sound Output on PSDR V1.18.5
Jon, I take it that you mean receiver audio out... Same in the headphones? Also try try the Audio output test in the Test Tab of Setup, see if there is no audio out under Test also. Thanks, 73, Dudley WA5QPZ Jon Bromberg wrote: New to Flex 3000 by about a week but gaining great momentum. Seems that when I use PSDR V1.18.3 I can start/stop, turn off/on, etc and have audio output every time. When I installed and use V1.18.5 I have found that occasionally when I start there is no audio. I can even recycle the Flex with no change. If I reboot the computer then the audio output is fine. Once this failure has occurred I can stop V1.18.5, close it and then open V1.18.3 and all is fine - every time. Firmware is V1.2.5.6 FlexDriver is V3.5.0.7171 OS is Windows XP - SP3 Thanks for the help. Jon W1JDB ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
