[Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Neal Campbell K3NC]

Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?

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[Flexradio] SDR 5000

[Phil LaMarche]

I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
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[Flexradio] SDR 5000

[Phil LaMarche]

I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Tom Homsley]

SDR-5000 ad is at

 

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[Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Mike McCown]

  Curious, how do the new 5000 owners like their radios vs. the 1000? 
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Philip Covington]

On 4/4/07, Neal Campbell K3NC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>
> Neal Campbell K3NC
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Give us some details about the SDR-5000 ad please.

73 Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[philip gentile]

where did you see this? (month & page?)

phil AB2JL

- Original Message - 
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To: "Flex-radio Reflector" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000


> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>
> Neal Campbell K3NC
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>
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Alan NV8A]

On 04/04/07 02:37 pm Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:

> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?


I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything 
about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.

Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Philip Covington]

On 4/4/07, Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04/04/07 02:37 pm Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
>
> > Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>
>
> I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
> about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
>
> Alan NV8A
>

Maybe Neal is a time traveler?

73 Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[W2AGN]

Philip Covington wrote:
> On 4/4/07, Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On 04/04/07 02:37 pm Neal Campbell K3NC wrote:
>>
>>> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>>
>> I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
>> about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
>>
>> Alan NV8A
>>
> 
> Maybe Neal is a time traveler?
> 
> 73 Phil N8VB

I rather suspect a belated April Fool.


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Alan NV8A]

On 04/04/07 03:35 pm I wrote:

>> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?

> I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything 
> about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.

I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST, 
which Diamond Club members are receiving already.

I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for 
purchase) at Dayton.

Alan NV8A


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Philip Covington]

On 4/4/07, Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 04/04/07 03:35 pm I wrote:
>
> >> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>
> > I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
> > about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
>
> I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST,
> which Diamond Club members are receiving already.
>
> I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for
> purchase) at Dayton.
>
> Alan NV8A

See, I KNEW he was a time traveler!

Now if Neal will give us some details from the ad...

73 Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Jim Lux]

At 01:30 PM 4/4/2007, Philip Covington wrote:
>On 4/4/07, Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On 04/04/07 03:35 pm I wrote:
> >
> > >> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
> >
> > > I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
> > > about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
> >
> > I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST,
> > which Diamond Club members are receiving already.
> >
> > I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for
> > purchase) at Dayton.
> >
> > Alan NV8A
>
>See, I KNEW he was a time traveler!
>
>Now if Neal will give us some details from the ad...

Or, perhaps, Flex-radio will post it on their website? That's the 
usual practice unless there's some funky contractual restriction with 
the magazine. Embargoes are common for editorial content (papers, 
etc.), but kind of unusual for ad campaigns.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Terry Fox]

I heard it is in the May 2007 QST.  Those who get quick delivery have the
issue already.  For the rest of us, any day now
Terry

- Original Message - 
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To: "Flex-radio Reflector" ; "Neal Campbell K3NC"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000


> where did you see this? (month & page?)
>
> phil AB2JL
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Flex-radio Reflector" 
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM
> Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
>
>
> > Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
> >
> > Neal Campbell K3NC
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > visit our DX Spotting clusters at: dxc.k3nc.com
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Alan NV8A]

On 04/04/07 05:52 pm Jim Lux wrote:

> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
 I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
 about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.

>>> I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST,
>>> which Diamond Club members are receiving already.
>>>
>>> I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for
>>> purchase) at Dayton.

>> Now if Neal will give us some details from the ad...

> Or, perhaps, Flex-radio will post it on their website? That's the 
> usual practice unless there's some funky contractual restriction with 
> the magazine. Embargoes are common for editorial content (papers, 
> etc.), but kind of unusual for ad campaigns.


I am deducing from the personal e-mail I received in reply to my 
follow-up query about specs. and pricing that those are not yet publicly 
available -- IOW, that the ad. is a teaser containing little real 
information.

Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Terry Fox]

As a follow-up, I think there is even a "review" of the new rig, along with
pricing.
I don't have my copy yet, I'm going on what a little birdie told me (DDS
joke there).
Terry


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To: "philip gentile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex-radio Reflector"
; "Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Terry Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000


> I heard it is in the May 2007 QST.  Those who get quick delivery have the
> issue already.  For the rest of us, any day now
> Terry
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "philip gentile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Flex-radio Reflector" ; "Neal Campbell
K3NC"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
>
>
> > where did you see this? (month & page?)
> >
> > phil AB2JL
> >
> > - Original Message - 
> > From: "Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Flex-radio Reflector" 
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM
> > Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
> >
> >
> > > Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
> > >
> > > Neal Campbell K3NC
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
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> > >
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Bob Maser]

Why doesn't a Diamond member of ARGL scan the ad and put it on the 
reflector for all of us lesser guys to see?  They probably called it the 
5000 because it going to be 5 times as much money.

Bob W6TR
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To: "Terry Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "philip gentile" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex-radio Reflector" ; 
"Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> As a follow-up, I think there is even a "review" of the new rig, along 
> with
> pricing.
> I don't have my copy yet, I'm going on what a little birdie told me (DDS
> joke there).
> Terry
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Terry Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "philip gentile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Flex-radio Reflector"
> ; "Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Cc: "Terry Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
>
>
>> I heard it is in the May 2007 QST.  Those who get quick delivery have the
>> issue already.  For the rest of us, any day now
>> Terry
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "philip gentile" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "Flex-radio Reflector" ; "Neal Campbell
> K3NC"
>> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
>>
>>
>> > where did you see this? (month & page?)
>> >
>> > phil AB2JL
>> >
>> > - Original Message - 
>> > From: "Neal Campbell K3NC" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> > To: "Flex-radio Reflector" 
>> > Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 2:37 PM
>> > Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000
>> >
>> >
>> > > Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
>> > >
>> > > Neal Campbell K3NC
>> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > >
>> > > visit our DX Spotting clusters at: dxc.k3nc.com
>> > >
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[W2AGN]

"Bob Maser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
(04/04/2007 19:23)

>Why doesn't a Diamond member of ARGL scan the ad and put it on the 
>reflector for all of us lesser guys to see?  They probably called it the 
>5000 because it going to be 5 times as much money.
>
>Bob W6TR


If they have the money to be a Diamond member, they are probably  
afraid  the AMATEUR RADIO RIPOFF LEAGUE would sue.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Robert McGwier]

Now now John.   The president of ARRL is a proud SDR-1000 owner and a 
reader of this group.  He and the technology task force and CTO for the 
League have been staunch supporters of SDR and its implications.  The 
"SDR-5000"  is no longer a real secret.  I suspected it would not be a 
secret from the minute the ad copy hit Newington.  ;-).


Truth in advertising:  I am the ARRL SDR working group chair for 
whatever that might mean.

Bob
N4HY


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> "Bob Maser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> (04/04/2007 19:23)
> 
>> Why doesn't a Diamond member of ARGL scan the ad and put it on the 
>> reflector for all of us lesser guys to see?  They probably called it the 
>> 5000 because it going to be 5 times as much money.
>>
>> Bob W6TR
> 
> 
> If they have the money to be a Diamond member, they are probably  
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Terry Fox]

I think it's great that Flex is keeping up with the times, and can't wait to
see the info on the SDR-5000.

The ARRL has been one of the promoters of SDR technology, especially
recently.  I think they see the advantages, and the handwriting on the wall.
QEX is a great way for technically-savvy hams to promote new ideas and
technology.  Big companies may be at the forefront of technology, but the
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Go for it Bob and the League.  Keep up the focus on technology.  That is a
significant part of what keeps our hobby relevent.
Terry

- Original Message - 
From: "Robert McGwier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "W2AGN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Flex-radio Reflector" 
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 7:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000


> Now now John.   The president of ARRL is a proud SDR-1000 owner and a
> reader of this group.  He and the technology task force and CTO for the
> League have been staunch supporters of SDR and its implications.  The
> "SDR-5000"  is no longer a real secret.  I suspected it would not be a
> secret from the minute the ad copy hit Newington.  ;-).
>
>
> Truth in advertising:  I am the ARRL SDR working group chair for
> whatever that might mean.
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
> W2AGN wrote:
> > "Bob Maser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > (04/04/2007 19:23)
> >
> >> Why doesn't a Diamond member of ARGL scan the ad and put it on the
> >> reflector for all of us lesser guys to see?  They probably called it
the
> >> 5000 because it going to be 5 times as much money.
> >>
> >> Bob W6TR
> >
> >
> > If they have the money to be a Diamond member, they are probably
> > afraid  the AMATEUR RADIO RIPOFF LEAGUE would sue.
> >
> > John - W2AGN
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[John Kolb]

Did that QST issue come out on April 1?

John
KK6IL

 Jim Lux <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> At 01:30 PM 4/4/2007, Philip Covington wrote:
> >On 4/4/07, Alan NV8A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On 04/04/07 03:35 pm I wrote:
> > >
> > > >> Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
> > >
> > > > I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
> > > > about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
> > >
> > > I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST,
> > > which Diamond Club members are receiving already.
> > >
> > > I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for
> > > purchase) at Dayton.
> > >
> > > Alan NV8A
> >
> >See, I KNEW he was a time traveler!
> >
> >Now if Neal will give us some details from the ad...
> 
> Or, perhaps, Flex-radio will post it on their website? That's the 
> usual practice unless there's some funky contractual restriction with 
> the magazine. Embargoes are common for editorial content (papers, 
> etc.), but kind of unusual for ad campaigns.
> 
> Jim, W6RMK 
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Edward J White]

I love the term "AMATEUR RADIO RIPOFF LEAGUE" same people that asked us for 
life membership and never having to pay for any awards I guess they have 
another rip off for the Ham.
Ed
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  - Original Message - 
  From: W2AGN 
  To: Bob Maser 
  Cc: Flex-radio Reflector 
  Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 6:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000



  "Bob Maser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  (04/04/2007 19:23)

  >Why doesn't a Diamond member of ARGL scan the ad and put it on the 
  >reflector for all of us lesser guys to see?  They probably called it the 
  >5000 because it going to be 5 times as much money.
  >
  >Bob W6TR


  If they have the money to be a Diamond member, they are probably  
  afraid  the AMATEUR RADIO RIPOFF LEAGUE would sue.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[ah6jr]

What? No response from Flex?

I smell a rat!!!

(I didnt say I smell like a rat)

Stan
AH6JR


On Wednesday 04 April 2007 12:03 pm, Alan NV8A wrote:
> On 04/04/07 05:52 pm Jim Lux wrote:
> > Just saw the ad in QST for the new radio. When will it go on sale?
> 
>  I've just looked through the April QST again without seeing anything
>  about an SDR-5000. There doesn't seem to be a FlexRadio ad at all.
> >>>
> >>> I have been informed in a personal e-mail that the ad's in the May QST,
> >>> which Diamond Club members are receiving already.
> >>>
> >>> I'm *assuming* that it's going to be on show (even if not available for
> >>> purchase) at Dayton.
> >>
> >> Now if Neal will give us some details from the ad...
> >
> > Or, perhaps, Flex-radio will post it on their website? That's the
> > usual practice unless there's some funky contractual restriction with
> > the magazine. Embargoes are common for editorial content (papers,
> > etc.), but kind of unusual for ad campaigns.
>
> I am deducing from the personal e-mail I received in reply to my
> follow-up query about specs. and pricing that those are not yet publicly
> available -- IOW, that the ad. is a teaser containing little real
> information.
>
> Alan NV8A
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Question

[Jerry Flanders]

Looks like a very good rig.

Does it have hardware ALC provision for compatibility with modern amps?


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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[kl7jdr]

What is the chance that the SDR-5000 /C, /D models come bundled with Linux ? 

 73's , Bruce

   KL7JDR

Bruce W. Mills
P.O. Box 1500
Soldotna, Alaska
  99669  - USA

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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Brad A. Steffler]

Frank,

With the advent of Ubuntu Linux, as well as Fedora Core (and possible 
Knoppis and Xandros), I have been increasingly impressed with ease of use
AND ease with which we may use the command line to modify the OS, 
especially Ubuntu.

Do you know if Power SDR can be run under WINE, or Cedega, or Crossover 
(either Personal or Professional) in the interim between its Win XP
only incarnation and a native Linux version? This assumes a Linux 
version is an eventuality.

I think most amateurs fiercely resent the DRM intrusiveness of 
Microsoft's Vista.  I know I do.The future does appear very nice for us 
freedom
loving hams. Just yesterday I read that the frame buffer(s) in AMD's new 
GPU will not be accessible outside the GPU.
( http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/28/14OPcurve_1.html ). This is, 
apparently, a  device  to placate the "premium content providers"
(read RIAA and MPIAA and their member businesses).  It also destroys one 
reason why we buy PC's in the first place - freedom of  flexibility.

All of this is to say that I believe that Linux, and not MS Windows, is 
the wave of the future. In economic terms, MS and, now, AMD, are making
it too costly for the average American to use their products, although 
this reality will probably take 1-2 more years to begin to sink in.
This opens the door for a supplier of such freedom and flexibility to 
step in.

If I am correct, the conclusions vis-a-vis Power SDR are obvious. Linux 
needs to be at the forefront as its home OS.

Brad A. Steffler
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Tim Ellison]

To quote Tony the Tiger, "Its Grrreat!"

Now don't get me wrong, the FLEX-5000 improved on an already excellent
SDR-1000.  I still use both.  You can only really get a good idea of how
you sound on the air by listening to your audio with a high quality
receiver and the SDR-1000 + PowerSDR fits that bill perfectly.

-Tim

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike McCown
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Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

  Curious, how do the new 5000 owners like their radios vs. the 1000? 
Mike, N3HY

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Neal Campbell]

So far the radio has exceeded my expectations. The rx is very smooth
and as sensitive as anything I have ever used (I thought the SDR1K was
the best but there is no 11.5khz hump and I haven't seen any birdies,
etc.). The lack of calibration really is nice, you don't really
appreciate it until you just turn it on and the radio tells Powersdr
what to set things at.

Fit and finish are light years ahead of the SDR1K. The size of the
unit is a bit smaller than I had expected from the pictures and I like
that, it takes very little desk space but it looks like a professional
radio.

The recent changes to PowerSDR are good for both the SDR1K as well as
the 5000a but I think we are seeing the next generation delivered with
1.10.

73
Neal k3nc

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Robert McGwier]

Mike McCown wrote:
>   Curious, how do the new 5000 owners like their radios vs. the 1000? 
> Mike, N3HY
> 


Hey Mike!

I really like that call.  I have had my Flex 5000 for almost two months. 
  It is a much better radio than the SDR-1000 but the thing that gets me 
going is the potential.

The SDR-1000 was not very sensitive on 10 and 6 meters.  On six,  stone 
deaf might be kind.  The Flex 5000 is both sensitive and clean on both 
10 and six meters.  Mine puts out 100watts (or more if I push it) on 
both bands.  The CW keying is cleaner.

The SDR-1000 was a little clunky due to all of the cables and connectors 
you needed.  It was a great performer but wires were dangling 
everywhere.  The Flex5000 has power,  firewire is the only connection to 
the computer,  and antenna.  It has 3 antenna jacks (SO-239's) and 
myriad other connectors for Rx In, and Rx Out and transverter full 
duplex ports (or common).  And on and on.

The full duplex nature of the radio will allow satellite operation very 
quickly after it comes out.

Look through the web site and you will see lots of documentation, etc. 
and come back here with questions.

Bob
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000

[Steve Kirk (KW5TX)]

It MUST better because...its a lotmo   m o n e y  ...  :)

and I didn't even know my SDR1000  _*HAD*_*__* 10 and 6   ...lol

kw5tx

Robert McGwier wrote:
> Mike McCown wrote:
>   
>>   Curious, how do the new 5000 owners like their radios vs. the 1000? 
>> Mike, N3HY
>>
>> 
>
>
> Hey Mike!
>
> I really like that call.  I have had my Flex 5000 for almost two months. 
>   It is a much better radio than the SDR-1000 but the thing that gets me 
> going is the potential.
>
> The SDR-1000 was not very sensitive on 10 and 6 meters.  On six,  stone 
> deaf might be kind.  The Flex 5000 is both sensitive and clean on both 
> 10 and six meters.  Mine puts out 100watts (or more if I push it) on 
> both bands.  The CW keying is cleaner.
>
> The SDR-1000 was a little clunky due to all of the cables and connectors 
> you needed.  It was a great performer but wires were dangling 
> everywhere.  The Flex5000 has power,  firewire is the only connection to 
> the computer,  and antenna.  It has 3 antenna jacks (SO-239's) and 
> myriad other connectors for Rx In, and Rx Out and transverter full 
> duplex ports (or common).  And on and on.
>
> The full duplex nature of the radio will allow satellite operation very 
> quickly after it comes out.
>
> Look through the web site and you will see lots of documentation, etc. 
> and come back here with questions.
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[daves]

ZS6AVM Wrote:
 
I'm pleased to see that the SDR-5000A is being heard on the Bands, I spoke with 
my friend John (W5GI) on 20M, signals were not that great (5/7). even at that 
signal John was sounding great
Now, I have a question, and perhaps there's a reason for this, there'll be an 
SDR-5000A, SDR-5000C, and an SDR-5000D, what happened to the SDR-5000B 
Is "B" like the number 13, or is there a particular reason for not labelling a 
Rig as a "B" model. Perhaps "B" is associated with "Beta"
Also, when will we be able to purchase Caps and T-Shirts from Flex?. Would be 
great to have them, so that we as Flexer's, can promote these great products at 
swop meets across the globe. Its rather lonely here in South Africa, being the 
only SDR-1000 owner, hi !
 
Looking forward to hearing the response with regards the above
 
Be seein ya
 
Dave 
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[daves]

ZS6AVM Wrote:

 

Is the SRD-5000 series over priced ?

Well, in the eyes of many it may well be over priced !

Why do I say this ? – The concept of Software Defined Radio isn’t being 
embraced by too many Amateur Radio operators, therefore the customer base is 
extremely small, and competing with the conventional Radio manufacturers. 
Therefore R&D and overheads need to be recovered to ensure sustainability, and 
viability

Having said that, Flex is not really going to attract that many new users, or 
converts by raising the prices as they have done

Flex are selling a Radio which has not been embraced the majority of the Ham 
community. Flex should be making an effort to attract and expand their customer 
base, and raising prices isn’t exactly going to do that

There will obviously be a following of dedicated Flex users who will probably 
pay any price to keep up with the latest Flex hardware, but that isn’t going to 
grow the company. They will be relying on these dedicated users to keep 
themselves in business

Flex are competing against the big guns (Yaesu, Icom, Tentec, etc), who may 
well embrace the SDR concept and start producing there own SDR’s

If this happens, Flex will find themselves hard pressed to compete with the 
these manufacturers, who have vast resources and manufacturing capabilities, 
and will therefore be able to produce an SDR at much lower pricing than Flex 
are able to do

So, for the time being, Flex are the only SDR manufacturer, and will probably 
retain that market until such time that other manufacturers perhaps enter the 
SDR market

In my case, the exchange rate between the US$ and the South African Rand is 
approx 7:1, that means a Flex-5000A @ $2,800-00 will cost me approx R20,000-00, 
excluding shipping and import duty. As you can see, this makes it extremely 
expensive

As much as I would like to enjoy this new Radio, the exchange rate and pricing 
make this prohibitive

 

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[Flexradio] SDR 5000 Pricing

[daves]

ZS6AVM Wrote:
 
The intention of my mail was not to stir up a hornets nest, nor was it intended 
to know Flex Radio Systems
I believe that the SDR's are really great radio's, and I have been using my 
SDR1000 from day one. I disposed of other rigs, e.g., FT1000MP IV field, TS780, 
and Icom ProII
The proceeds of these were used to procure the SDR1000 and a 3 Element Stepper
I have nothing but praise for the guys at Flex, and for the great product that 
they have, and are still producing
The SDR1000, is probably the best audio platform out there, in fact there is 
nothing that comes even close, and that was my primary reason for getting an SDR
Additionally, the whole concept and the need for something completely different 
made the SDR1000 the only choice, and still is (apart from the 5000 series)
The problem I have is one which is out of my, or anyone else's control, that 
being the crazy exchange rate, which makes the importing of anything really 
expensive, therefore way beyond the means of the average Ham here in SA
When I win the Lotto I'll be gettin me a new SDR5000, hi
 
Regards
 
Dave
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 problems

[Dave Blaschke]

I am experiencing strange problems with my SDR-5000, which have just 
recently appeared. Before I contact Flex directly, I thought I would 
ask here and see if anyone has experienced a similar situation.

The most visible problem is that a very broad and nasty spur has 
appeared on 160 meters. It is about 10 kHz wide and centered on 1.826 
kHz. Similar spurs, with less amplitude occur at 1.850 and 1.858 on 
the high side, and on 1.804 and 1.818 on the low side. I also find a 
similar spur covering 5.334 to 5.343 kHz. These nasty signals are 
there with or without the antenna connected. If I connect an antenna, 
the baseline signal and spurs all rise the same amount..

At first, I thought that some external source was generating this 
interference. However I have turned off everything, excluding the 
computer on which SDR-5000 is running. After disconnecting the 
antenna and seeing the interference remain, I have to believe that 
the interference is being somehow internally generated.

I have tried reinstalling prior firmware, using earlier versions of 
PowerSDR, and complete computer reboots, but nothing changes.

If anyone has seen something similar to this, please let me know.

Dave, W5UN


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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 Sound Card

[kl7jdr]

Wonder how the the SDR-5000 sound card compares with the SDR-1000 Janus/Oxy 
card ?

 73's , Bruce

   KL7JDR

Bruce W. Mills
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Soldotna, Alaska
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Tim Ellison]

The odds are 0 to 1.   PowerSDR only runs under Windows and the two have
to go together to make a functional radio.

You could always load Linux  on it after you bought it, but I suspect
that would exclude you for any official FlexRadio support.


-Tim
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What is the chance that the SDR-5000 /C, /D models come bundled with
Linux ? 

 73's , Bruce

   KL7JDR

Bruce W. Mills
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Frank Brickle]

Thanks to the General Public License, the reverse is not the case.

73
Frank
AB2KT

On 4/13/07, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> The odds are 0 to 1.   PowerSDR only runs under Windows and the two have
> to go together to make a functional radio.
>
> You could always load Linux  on it after you bought it, but I suspect
> that would exclude you for any official FlexRadio support.
>
>
> -Tim
> -
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> Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux
>
>
> What is the chance that the SDR-5000 /C, /D models come bundled with
> Linux ?
>
> 73's , Bruce
>
>KL7JDR
>
> Bruce W. Mills
> P.O. Box 1500
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[W2AGN]

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> What is the chance that the SDR-5000 /C, /D models come bundled with Linux ? 
> 
>  73's , Bruce
> 
>KL7JDR
> 
Regrettably, slim to none. (more like none to none). It's a shame. If it did 
come with Linux, and a Linux Powersdr console, I would be saving my money, and 
would definitely be a customer. As it is, Powersdr is the ONLY program that 
forces me to keep a Win 2000 partition to run my SDR 1K.

John W2AGN

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Toby Deinhardt]

Hallo,

> forces me to keep a Win 2000 partition

maybe one should try to compile the console using Mono - a .Net 
implementation which also runs under Linux: 
.

Shouldn't need to change too much(?), but will require a bit of work.


vy 73 de toby


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Larry W8ER]

John W2AGN,

Why is it regrettable and a shame? To my mind the impact on Flex to 
support two separate operating systems would be regrettable and a shame. 
It would mean that a very busy software crew would need to divide their 
valuable time between Linux and Windows and not have as much time for 
enhancements on either?

-- Larry W8ER



W2AGN wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>   
>> What is the chance that the SDR-5000 /C, /D models come bundled with Linux ? 
>>
>>  73's , Bruce
>>
>>KL7JDR
>>
>> 
> Regrettably, slim to none. (more like none to none). It's a shame. If it did 
> come with Linux, and a Linux Powersdr console, I would be saving my money, 
> and 
> would definitely be a customer. As it is, Powersdr is the ONLY program that 
> forces me to keep a Win 2000 partition to run my SDR 1K.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Frank Brickle]

I think you might be misunderstanding a little how the development process
has gone up till this point.

A very significant number of features that helped solidify the SDR-1000's
popularity came from outside Flex. A significant number of those came from
the parallel Linux development, not from a Windows environment. A few
examples in particular stand out:

(1) all of the DSP code
(2) entire multitasking structure
(3) spectrum generation
(4) effective T/R switching
(5) the CW keyer and CW tone generation
(6) the compander
(7) multiple receivers
(8) full duplex

There are many more, but these will suffice.

All of these were developed under Linux and subsequently ported to Windows.
There are still about half a dozen features in the Linux code that have not
yet found their way into PowerSDR -- for example, 10-band ISO graphic EQ.

As a result of the decision by Flex to eschew Linux, there are some
interesting features under development that may never make it into PowerSDR
-- for example, full-band automatic signal classification and diarization,
fast SSB autotuning, co-channel interference mitigation...

I leave it to you to judge whether the loss of such features is regrettable.

73
Frank
AB2KT

On 4/14/07, Larry W8ER <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Why is it regrettable and a shame? To my mind the impact on Flex to
> support two separate operating systems would be regrettable and a shame.
> It would mean that a very busy software crew would need to divide their
> valuable time between Linux and Windows and not have as much time for
> enhancements on either?
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Robert McGwier]

Tim:

Where did this come from?   We have the Mini-ITX dual booting Windows XP 
and Linux and making sure that the hardware is supported by both OS's. 
Eric himself wrote the hardware code for Linux.  Linux support is 
definitely intended.  It is clear that Windows XP will be the dominant 
OS in the beginning but the Flex 5000C and SDR-X will both run Linux.

Bob
N4HY


Frank Brickle wrote:
> Thanks to the General Public License, the reverse is not the case.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> AB2KT
> 
> On 4/13/07, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> The odds are 0 to 1.   PowerSDR only runs under Windows and the two have
>> to go together to make a functional radio.
>>
>> You could always load Linux  on it after you bought it, but I suspect
>> that would exclude you for any official FlexRadio support.
>>
>>
>> -Tim
>> -
>>


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[W2AGN]

Frank Brickle wrote:
> I think you might be misunderstanding a little how the development 
> process has gone up till this point.
> 
> A very significant number of features that helped solidify the 
> SDR-1000's popularity came from outside Flex. A significant number of 
> those came from the parallel Linux development, not from a Windows 
> environment. A few examples in particular stand out:
> 
> (1) all of the DSP code
> (2) entire multitasking structure
> (3) spectrum generation
> (4) effective T/R switching
> (5) the CW keyer and CW tone generation
> (6) the compander
> (7) multiple receivers
> (8) full duplex
> 
> There are many more, but these will suffice.
> 
> All of these were developed under Linux and subsequently ported to 
> Windows. There are still about half a dozen features in the Linux code 
> that have not yet found their way into PowerSDR -- for example, 10-band 
> ISO graphic EQ.
> 
> As a result of the decision by Flex to eschew Linux, there are some 
> interesting features under development that may never make it into 
> PowerSDR -- for example, full-band automatic signal classification and 
> diarization, fast SSB autotuning, co-channel interference mitigation...
> 
> I leave it to you to judge whether the loss of such features is regrettable.
> 
> 73
> Frank
> AB2KT


All of which makes a better case for basing the 5000C and D on a Linux 
platform, 
especially since the computer is included. There is NO reason not to make use 
of 
the advantages of Linux.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Mike Naruta]

Please remember that the majority of the
Flexers are running PowerSDR on Windows.

There is room for both OS.


BTW, I'm migrating my PCs to Linux.
I may get one for Vista, but only to
help my clients with troubleshooting.


Mike - AA8K


W2AGN wrote:

> 
> 
> All of which makes a better case for basing the 5000C and D on a Linux 
> platform, 
> especially since the computer is included. There is NO reason not to make use 
> of 
> the advantages of Linux.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[Frank Brickle]

Brad --

There is a significant group of developers and users congregating around
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/dttsp-linux. A lot of progress is being made.
It's not confined to Linux. The SDR and UI code is up and running on Linux,
Mac OSX, and FreeBSD.

The major hardware target is still the SDR-1000 right now, but SoftRocks
work too, and we're expecting to put a lot of work into supporting a full
range of HPSDR configurations.

Come check it out if you're curious.

73 and thanks
Frank
AB2KT

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> Frank,
>
> With the advent of Ubuntu Linux, as well as Fedora Core (and possible
> Knoppis and Xandros), I have been increasingly impressed with ease of use
> AND ease with which we may use the command line to modify the OS,
> especially Ubuntu.
>
> Do you know if Power SDR can be run under WINE, or Cedega, or Crossover
> (either Personal or Professional) in the interim between its Win XP
> only incarnation and a native Linux version? This assumes a Linux
> version is an eventuality.
>
> I think most amateurs fiercely resent the DRM intrusiveness of
> Microsoft's Vista.  I know I do.The future does appear very nice for us
> freedom
> loving hams. Just yesterday I read that the frame buffer(s) in AMD's new
> GPU will not be accessible outside the GPU.
> ( http://www.infoworld.com/article/07/03/28/14OPcurve_1.html ). This is,
> apparently, a  device  to placate the "premium content providers"
> (read RIAA and MPIAA and their member businesses).  It also destroys one
> reason why we buy PC's in the first place - freedom of  flexibility.
>
> All of this is to say that I believe that Linux, and not MS Windows, is
> the wave of the future. In economic terms, MS and, now, AMD, are making
> it too costly for the average American to use their products, although
> this reality will probably take 1-2 more years to begin to sink in.
> This opens the door for a supplier of such freedom and flexibility to
> step in.
>
> If I am correct, the conclusions vis-a-vis Power SDR are obvious. Linux
> needs to be at the forefront as its home OS.
>
> Brad A. Steffler
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Linux

[W2AGN]

Mike Naruta wrote:
> Please remember that the majority of the
> Flexers are running PowerSDR on Windows.
> 
> There is room for both OS.
> 
> 
> BTW, I'm migrating my PCs to Linux.
> I may get one for Vista, but only to
> help my clients with troubleshooting.
> 
> 
> Mike - AA8K
> 

Yes, they are, no argument, but we are talking about the dedicated computer in 
the SDR-5000C and D. Making it Linux makes sense, as well as providing the best 
base for high performance features, as someone else pointed out.
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[Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[Phil LaMarche]

Not a single person responded!


I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
 
Phil
 
 
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

Dave,

No B model in the works at this time but who knows what the future will
bring.

Shirts and caps will be available for sale in the next month or two.
Priority right now is to get 5000s in the hands of customers.
73

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
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512-535-5266



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ZS6AVM Wrote:
 
I'm pleased to see that the SDR-5000A is being heard on the Bands, I spoke
with my friend John (W5GI) on 20M, signals were not that great (5/7). even
at that signal John was sounding great
Now, I have a question, and perhaps there's a reason for this, there'll be
an SDR-5000A, SDR-5000C, and an SDR-5000D, what happened to the SDR-5000B

Is "B" like the number 13, or is there a particular reason for not labelling
a Rig as a "B" model. Perhaps "B" is associated with "Beta"
Also, when will we be able to purchase Caps and T-Shirts from Flex?. Would
be great to have them, so that we as Flexer's, can promote these great
products at swop meets across the globe. Its rather lonely here in South
Africa, being the only SDR-1000 owner, hi !
 
Looking forward to hearing the response with regards the above
 
Be seein ya
 
Dave 
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Philip Covington]

On 8/16/07, John P Basilotto W5GI <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Dave,
>
> No B model in the works at this time but who knows what the future will
> bring.
>
> Shirts and caps will be available for sale in the next month or two.
> Priority right now is to get 5000s in the hands of customers.
> 73
>
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI
> Marketing and Product Manager
> FlexRadio Systems
> 512-535-5266
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 1:24 AM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
>
> ZS6AVM Wrote:
>
> I'm pleased to see that the SDR-5000A is being heard on the Bands, I spoke
> with my friend John (W5GI) on 20M, signals were not that great (5/7). even
> at that signal John was sounding great
> Now, I have a question, and perhaps there's a reason for this, there'll be
> an SDR-5000A, SDR-5000C, and an SDR-5000D, what happened to the SDR-5000B
> 
> Is "B" like the number 13, or is there a particular reason for not labelling
> a Rig as a "B" model. Perhaps "B" is associated with "Beta"
> Also, when will we be able to purchase Caps and T-Shirts from Flex?. Would
> be great to have them, so that we as Flexer's, can promote these great
> products at swop meets across the globe. Its rather lonely here in South
> Africa, being the only SDR-1000 owner, hi !
>
> Looking forward to hearing the response with regards the above
>
> Be seein ya
>
> Dave
> ZS6AVM (The African VooDoo Man) - Hi !

I was guessing that "a" is because it is the first model, "c" because
it is the model with the computer integrated, and "d" for dual
independent receivers (or something like that...).  LOL...

Phil N8VB

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Eric Wachsmann]

I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first, the C
was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)

The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style door,
and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks in early
testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food, caffeine, and
the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users to never sleep.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

(with apologies to Lee Crocker, Dale Boresz, and Tim Ellison for stealing
their humorous ideas)

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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
> >
> 
> I was guessing that "a" is because it is the first model, "c" because
> it is the model with the computer integrated, and "d" for dual
> independent receivers (or something like that...).  LOL...
> 
> Phil N8VB



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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Thompson_Peter]

Toaster? I Think a microwave would be more apropriate;)


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann
> 
> I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first,
> the C
> was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)
> 
> The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style
> door,
> and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks in
early
> testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food,
> caffeine, and
> the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users to never
> sleep.
> 
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[John P Basilotto W5GI]

In texas B is on the keyboard twice- everything in texas is BIGGER and
Better- that's what I hear anyway!

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
FlexRadio Systems
512-535-5266



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Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

Yeah, perhaps ya'll don't have a "B" on the keyboards in Texas, even better,
I'm sure that ya'll are going send me a "B" model free of charge, so I can't
do all the "Beta" Testing out here in Africa, hi
The A,C, and D models are too expensive, the reserves in my "B"ank account
are very low

Be seein ya

Dave ZS6AVM

-Original Message-
From: Eric Wachsmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 August 2007 02:35 PM
To: 'Philip Covington'; 'John P Basilotto W5GI'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Dave Scully
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first, the C
was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)

The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style door,
and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks in early
testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food, caffeine, and
the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users to never sleep.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

(with apologies to Lee Crocker, Dale Boresz, and Tim Ellison for stealing
their humorous ideas)

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> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
> >
> 
> I was guessing that "a" is because it is the first model, "c" because 
> it is the model with the computer integrated, and "d" for dual 
> independent receivers (or something like that...).  LOL...
> 
> Phil N8VB



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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[daves]

Yeah, perhaps ya'll don't have a "B" on the keyboards in Texas, even better, 
I'm sure that ya'll are going send me a "B" model free of charge, so I can't do 
all the "Beta" Testing out here in Africa, hi
The A,C, and D models are too expensive, the reserves in my "B"ank account are 
very low

Be seein ya

Dave ZS6AVM

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From: Eric Wachsmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 16 August 2007 02:35 PM
To: 'Philip Covington'; 'John P Basilotto W5GI'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Dave Scully
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first, the C 
was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)

The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style door, and 
optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks in early testing.  
It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food, caffeine, and the 
excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users to never sleep.


Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems

(with apologies to Lee Crocker, Dale Boresz, and Tim Ellison for stealing their 
humorous ideas)

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> > To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
> >
> 
> I was guessing that "a" is because it is the first model, "c" because 
> it is the model with the computer integrated, and "d" for dual 
> independent receivers (or something like that...).  LOL...
> 
> Phil N8VB



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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Tim Ellison]

The required lead shielding added too much to the shipping weight and
you can't toast your crumpets in a microwave! 


-Tim

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Toaster? I Think a microwave would be more apropriate;)


> -Original Message-
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> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann
> 
> I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first,

> the C was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)
> 
> The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style 
> door, and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks 
> in
early
> testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food, 
> caffeine, and the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users

> to never sleep.
> 
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Giuseppe Campana]

Hi gang,

attached (I hope work) the ultra-rare image of "B" model

A very impressive combo of technology

73 Beppe
IK3VIG
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Tim Ellison]

The FLEX-5000 "bank" version!  I could use a Flexi-bank for saving my
loose change that would be used for getting more FlexRadio goodies. 


-Tim

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Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

Oh, I've been think about the reason why there isn't a "B" model, maybe
it would be very BASIC, an entry level model without any innards, just a
BASIC BOX, with a slot in the top where one can insert ones loose
change, so that some time in the future one will have saved up enough to
get an A, C, or D

Be seein ya

Dave

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Dave Scully
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

The required lead shielding added too much to the shipping weight and
you can't toast your crumpets in a microwave! 


-Tim

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Toaster? I Think a microwave would be more apropriate;)


> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> radio.biz] On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann
> 
> I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first,

> the C was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)
> 
> The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style 
> door, and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks 
> in
early
> testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food, 
> caffeine, and the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users

> to never sleep.
> 
> 

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Giuseppe Campana]

This in another oneB model

I'm sure. this B model.your XYL appreciate too !


73 Beppe IK3VIG





t 16.08 16/08/2007, you wrote:
>The FLEX-5000 "bank" version!  I could use a Flexi-bank for saving my
>loose change that would be used for getting more FlexRadio goodies.
>
>
>-Tim
>
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>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:54 AM
>To: Tim Ellison
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
>
>Oh, I've been think about the reason why there isn't a "B" model, maybe
>it would be very BASIC, an entry level model without any innards, just a
>BASIC BOX, with a slot in the top where one can insert ones loose
>change, so that some time in the future one will have saved up enough to
>get an A, C, or D
>
>Be seein ya
>
>Dave
>
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>Sent: 16 August 2007 03:29 PM
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>Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Dave Scully
>Subject: RE: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
>
>The required lead shielding added too much to the shipping weight and
>you can't toast your crumpets in a microwave!
>
>
>-Tim
>
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>Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models
>
>Toaster? I Think a microwave would be more apropriate;)
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > radio.biz] On Behalf Of Eric Wachsmann
> >
> > I think Phil is pretty close.  I think the A was because it was first,
>
> > the C was for computer, and the D was for Deluxe.  ;)
> >
> > The FLEX-5000B (as in Baking model with the toaster slots, oven-style
> > door, and optional cappuccino maker) posed some serious health risks
> > in
>early
> > testing.  It seems that the combination of fresh gourmet food,
> > caffeine, and the excitement of operating a FLEX-5000 caused the users
>
> > to never sleep.
> >
> >
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Alberto I2PHD]

John P Basilotto W5GI wrote:
> In texas B is on the keyboard twice- everything in texas is BIGGER and
> Better- that's what I hear anyway!
> 
> John P. Basilotto
> W5GI

  Yeah, I can confirm that. Many (too many) years ago I was in Texas in the car 
of a colleague, heading for a meeting 
with some other colleagues and customers. As we were a bit late, he drove at 
more than 80mph.
I said him "Hey Mike, I thought you had 55mph as speed limit in the US ?".
"NOT IN TEXAS !" replied him with a harsh voice...

That's how I started to learn that Texas is a country in the country...  :-)

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Thompson_Peter]

Beppe - very nice "appliance" radio.

I see no knobs and buttons - we really need Frank's 3d gui now that we
have to add all the cooking controls into PowerSDR.

> -Original Message-
> 
> Hi gang,
> 
> attached (I hope work) the ultra-rare image of "B" model
> 
> A very impressive combo of technology
> 
> 73 Beppe
> IK3VIG
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Models

[Tim Ellison]

And an LED clock that blinks "12:00" constantly too. 


-Tim

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Beppe - very nice "appliance" radio.

I see no knobs and buttons - we really need Frank's 3d gui now that we
have to add all the cooking controls into PowerSDR.

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Rob Dennison]

Hi Dave,

I agree.  Not producing a (perhaps loss leader) $500-$750 appliance radio
to go with the "luxury" 5K is a missed opportunity.  My guess is that a
low end radio appliance radio could be produced just by putting lower
quality a/d's in the 5K box (almost 0 R&D) and still have a radio that
out performs $1000 to $1500 radios.  Then flexRadio would get market
share!  Might have to add a low end logger to PowerSDR that would export
to big time loggers so could run in a LapTop

Can that $500 to $750 radio be far behind?

Gotta move fast before someone else does the $500 box for PowerSDR...

Rob ;o)~
AB7CF





On Mon, 1 Oct 2007 09:39:47 +0200 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> ZS6AVM Wrote:
> 
>  
> 
> Is the SRD-5000 series over priced ?
> 
> Well, in the eyes of many it may well be over priced !
> 
> Why do I say this ? – The concept of Software Defined Radio isn’t 
> being embraced by too many Amateur Radio operators, therefore the 
> customer base is extremely small, and competing with the 
> conventional Radio manufacturers. Therefore R&D and overheads need 
> to be recovered to ensure sustainability, and viability
> 
> Having said that, Flex is not really going to attract that many new 
> users, or converts by raising the prices as they have done
> 
> Flex are selling a Radio which has not been embraced the majority of 
> the Ham community. Flex should be making an effort to attract and 
> expand their customer base, and raising prices isn’t exactly going 
> to do that
> 
> There will obviously be a following of dedicated Flex users who will 
> probably pay any price to keep up with the latest Flex hardware, but 
> that isn’t going to grow the company. They will be relying on these 
> dedicated users to keep themselves in business
> 
> Flex are competing against the big guns (Yaesu, Icom, Tentec, etc), 
> who may well embrace the SDR concept and start producing there own 
> SDR’s
> 
> If this happens, Flex will find themselves hard pressed to compete 
> with the these manufacturers, who have vast resources and 
> manufacturing capabilities, and will therefore be able to produce an 
> SDR at much lower pricing than Flex are able to do
> 
> So, for the time being, Flex are the only SDR manufacturer, and will 
> probably retain that market until such time that other manufacturers 
> perhaps enter the SDR market
> 
> In my case, the exchange rate between the US$ and the South African 
> Rand is approx 7:1, that means a Flex-5000A @ $2,800-00 will cost me 
> approx R20,000-00, excluding shipping and import duty. As you can 
> see, this makes it extremely expensive
> 
> As much as I would like to enjoy this new Radio, the exchange rate 
> and pricing make this prohibitive
> 
>  
> 
> Dave
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Alberto I2PHD]

 > My guess is that a
> low end radio appliance radio could be produced just by putting lower
> quality a/d's in the 5K box (almost 0 R&D) and still have a radio that
> out performs $1000 to $1500 radios.

Well, maybe there will be other ways to reduce the manufacturing costs, but 
downgrading the AK5394A to something 
inferior is not going to save much money.  From another group :

 > The quote I got for quantity 10 AK5394A for prototyping the Janus from the
 > US distributor was about $17.00.

73  Alberto  I2PHD


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Philip Covington]

On 10/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ZS6AVM Wrote:
>
>
>
> Is the SRD-5000 series over priced ?
>
> Well, in the eyes of many it may well be over priced !
>
> Why do I say this ? – The concept of Software Defined Radio isn't being 
> embraced by too many Amateur Radio operators, therefore the customer base is 
> extremely small, and competing with the conventional Radio manufacturers. 
> Therefore R&D and overheads need to be recovered to ensure sustainability, 
> and viability
>
> Having said that, Flex is not really going to attract that many new users, or 
> converts by raising the prices as they have done
>
> Flex are selling a Radio which has not been embraced the majority of the Ham 
> community. Flex should be making an effort to attract and expand their 
> customer base, and raising prices isn't exactly going to do that
>
> There will obviously be a following of dedicated Flex users who will probably 
> pay any price to keep up with the latest Flex hardware, but that isn't going 
> to grow the company. They will be relying on these dedicated users to keep 
> themselves in business
>
> Flex are competing against the big guns (Yaesu, Icom, Tentec, etc), who may 
> well embrace the SDR concept and start producing there own SDR's
>
> If this happens, Flex will find themselves hard pressed to compete with the 
> these manufacturers, who have vast resources and manufacturing capabilities, 
> and will therefore be able to produce an SDR at much lower pricing than Flex 
> are able to do
>
> So, for the time being, Flex are the only SDR manufacturer, and will probably 
> retain that market until such time that other manufacturers perhaps enter the 
> SDR market
>
> In my case, the exchange rate between the US$ and the South African Rand is 
> approx 7:1, that means a Flex-5000A @ $2,800-00 will cost me approx 
> R20,000-00, excluding shipping and import duty. As you can see, this makes it 
> extremely expensive
>
> As much as I would like to enjoy this new Radio, the exchange rate and 
> pricing make this prohibitive
>
>
>
> Dave
>
> ZS6AVM

Now if the 5000c was the price of the 5000a, I'd say the price is
about right.  But for a radio that still must be tethered to a PC like
the 5000a, I don't think the price is justified for the majority of
potential customers.  There are a lot less hardware in the 5000a than
even the cheapest of offerings (~$700-$800) from the big three.

Phil

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Jim Lux]

At 03:36 AM 10/1/2007, Philip Covington wrote:
>On 10/1/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > ZS6AVM Wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Is the SRD-5000 series over priced ?
> >
> > Well, in the eyes of many it may well be over priced !
> >
> > Why do I say this ? ­ The concept of Software 
> Defined Radio isn't being embraced by too many 
> Amateur Radio operators, therefore the customer 
> base is extremely small, and competing with the 
> conventional Radio manufacturers. Therefore R&D 
> and overheads need to be recovered to ensure sustainability, and viability
> >
> > Having said that, Flex is not really going to 
> attract that many new users, or converts by 
> raising the prices as they have done
> >>
> > So, for the time being, Flex are the only SDR 
> manufacturer, and will probably retain that 
> market until such time that other manufacturers perhaps enter the SDR market


I don't know that this is truly the case.. 
Perhaps in the ham market, but there's also 
things like the DSP-10, the softrock, etc.

It's certainly NOT true in the commercial market, 
where there are a plethora of software radios 
available (they aren't inexpensive, though!).



>Now if the 5000c was the price of the 5000a, I'd say the price is
>about right.  But for a radio that still must be tethered to a PC like
>the 5000a, I don't think the price is justified for the majority of
>potential customers.  There are a lot less hardware in the 5000a than
>even the cheapest of offerings (~$700-$800) from the big three.

But the big three have substantially greater 
economies of scale, particularly in terms of 
support and amortization of R&D costs, as well as 
in manufacturing and distribution.

As to whether the price is justified for the 
majority of consumers, it really doesn't 
matter.  It's not a mass market product, but 
appeals to a niche market, and judging from the 
delivery times, more people want it *at the 
current price* than they can make, so it's 
clearly priced acceptably for that subset.

Jim, W6RMK



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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Jim Lux]

At 05:02 AM 10/1/2007, Rob Dennison wrote:
>Hi Dave, I agree.  Not producing a (perhaps loss leader) $500-$750 
>appliance radio to go with the "luxury" 5K is a missed 
>opportunity.  My guess is that a low end radio appliance radio could 
>be produced just by putting lower quality a/d's in the 5K box 
>(almost 0 R&D) and still have a radio that out performs $1000 to 
>$1500 radios.  Then flexRadio would get market share!


Maybe Flex doesn't want market share?  It would radically increase 
their support costs, and a loss leader that increases support costs 
is a quick trip to financial ruin.





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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Rick Markey, KN3C]

A $500 - $750 appliance radio?  Didn't Ten-Tec already do that?  It was
called the Pegasus.  Not a bad radio, I'm told for the price.  But
Ten-Tec dropped it in favor of the Jupiter which had knobs, but could be
run in the "Pegasus" mode from a computer.

And before Ten-Tec came out with the Pegasus, there was the Kachina, but
they stopped making ham gear and orphaned their customers.

I've been watching the reflector for over a year, in anticipation of
purchasing a Flex.  My procastination paid off and I have a 5000A on
order.  But I really do not understand what all the bitching about price
is all about.  Even at the new higher price, it seems to me that the
5000A is one helluva radio.  Is there something out there in the same
price range or less that's better?  If there is, I'm not aware of it.

As I see it the Flex is a niche radio, certainly not for everyone, and
will never sell in the numbers that the current crop of rice boxes sell.
Just the thought of having to connect the radio to a computer will stop
some hams dead in their tracks.  Not having knobs on the radio was
apparently enough of an issue to drive Kachina and Ten-Tec out of the
knobless radio business.  You might say "appliance operators beware,
this radio may not be for you!"

It seems to me that Flex has it figured out pretty well and have so far
survived where others have either failed or chosen to no longer compete.

de Rick, KN3C




Hi Dave,

I agree.  Not producing a (perhaps loss leader) $500-$750 appliance
radio to go with the "luxury" 5K is a missed opportunity.  My guess is
that a low end radio appliance radio could be produced just by putting
lower quality a/d's in the 5K box (almost 0 R&D) and still have a radio
that out performs $1000 to $1500 radios.  Then flexRadio would get
market share!  Might have to add a low end logger to PowerSDR that would
export to big time loggers so could run in a LapTop

Can that $500 to $750 radio be far behind?

Gotta move fast before someone else does the $500 box for PowerSDR...

Rob ;o)~
AB7CF



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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Rob Dennison]

Hi Alberto,

Actually the lower performance A/D's (and maybe a lower performance
mixer) are to create a continued market for 5Ks.  

Obviously there are price points for new boxes at about $800-$900, $1500
- $2500+ and $4500+  In an old style rig how much of the
circuitry/performance is different at each price point?  Not much I bet,
until you get to the high end.  If I were doing it I would just change
the SW, front panel and a few passive components till I got to the high
end.  Then slowly retrofit down the product line to maintain market
share.

Unfortunately our software is open sourced and public domain, there is no
front panel and dang few passive components so.. our strategy must be
different.  

The other thing that has to be factored in is the fairly hot computer
needed to run PowerSDR.  Many, like me, go out and buy a new computer
dedicated to the SDR.  That means the real cost is the SDR cost +
$500-$700 or more.  (Putting my behavior where my mouth is, that's
actually why I just bought a used 1K instead of a new 5K.)  

If you toss in a new computer that means that a SDR5K is really about
$3000 - $4000.  Sure a 5K is a bargain compared to rigs with comparable
specs, but now you are talking about a really serious ham. Our SDR5K
market is mebbe 50K people world wide divided among 5 other entrenched
and competent suppliers.

What's needed is at least an entry level SDR at mebbe a total (including
new computer) outlay of $1000 - $1500 total with the performance of  a
$2500 - $3500 rig.  Mebbe jigger PowerSDR so a user can start off on an
existing moderate performance computer and then up grade to a better
computer later with better on the air performance.

Here's the strategy that would suite me:  

1.  Buy entry level $700 -$900 SDR using an existing computer with a
"lite" powerSDR, DSP and buffers preset for 1.6Ghz computer (spec modest
performance.)  
2.  As first upgrade, customer adds hot computer for $500 - $1000  goes
to a "full" powerSDR and goes head to head with the $2500 to $3500 crowd.
3. Then buy a 5K to go with the hot computer and run with the big $4500+
dogs at a fraction of the cost. 

Nice thing is the investment spread out over a few years so the wife
doesn't go into total shock!

Suspect many of the current customers started with a 1K added hot
computer and are now upgrading to a 5K.

Need that entry level box!  Go for it guys!

73's
Rob
AB7CF





  
On Mon, 01 Oct 2007 16:56:00 +0200 Alberto I2PHD <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
>  > My guess is that a
> > low end radio appliance radio could be produced just by putting 
> lower
> > quality a/d's in the 5K box (almost 0 R&D) and still have a radio 
> that
> > out performs $1000 to $1500 radios.
> 
> Well, maybe there will be other ways to reduce the manufacturing 
> costs, but downgrading the AK5394A to something 
> inferior is not going to save much money.  From another group :
> 
>  > The quote I got for quantity 10 AK5394A for prototyping the Janus 
> from the
>  > US distributor was about $17.00.
> 
> 73  Alberto  I2PHD
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Duane - N9DG]

--- "Rick Markey, KN3C" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> A $500 - $750 appliance radio?  Didn't Ten-Tec already do
> that?  It was
> called the Pegasus.  Not a bad radio, I'm told for the
> price.  But
> Ten-Tec dropped it in favor of the Jupiter which had knobs,
> but could be
> run in the "Pegasus" mode from a computer.

Don't know the exact number, but there were quite a few
Pegasus radios made. Far more than the Kachinas 505's. I do
have to wonder though how many Jupiters are run a majority of
the time in Pegasus emulation mode. I suspect quite a few. I
do know that for my purposes the Pegs have served me *very*
well. In fact they played a big role in steering me into the
whole world of Flex and PC based SDR's in general.

> 
> And before Ten-Tec came out with the Pegasus, there was the
> Kachina, but
> they stopped making ham gear and orphaned their customers.

Kachina shot themselves in the foot big time by not
adequately supporting the 3rd party software developers.
Don't know if this was by conscious decision or a simple lack
of staff/financing. The 505 was also hopelessly bound by the
slow 9600 baud serial connection. The Pegasus was substantial
better supported for software developers, at least initially
than the 505 was. That support has all but stopped, i.e. no
new firmware for some time now. It also used a "RISC-like"
command set that allowed the 3rd party developers
considerable control of the radio's inner workings. The
Kachina was more limited in that regard.

> 
> I've been watching the reflector for over a year, in
> anticipation of
> purchasing a Flex.  My procastination paid off and I have a
> 5000A on
> order.  But I really do not understand what all the
> bitching about price
> is all about.  Even at the new higher price, it seems to me
> that the
> 5000A is one helluva radio.  Is there something out there
> in the same
> price range or less that's better?  If there is, I'm not
> aware of it.

In the end when you are buying a Flex-5000 you are buying
performance, flexibility, and a *real* potential for future
enhancements, especially for non conventional and innovative
UI's. No other manufacturer today comes close to providing
that level of future growth potential and capability
enhancements.  

> 
> As I see it the Flex is a niche radio, certainly not for
> everyone, and
> will never sell in the numbers that the current crop of
> rice boxes sell.
> Just the thought of having to connect the radio to a
> computer will stop
> some hams dead in their tracks.  Not having knobs on the
> radio was
> apparently enough of an issue to drive Kachina and Ten-Tec
> out of the
> knobless radio business.  You might say "appliance
> operators beware,
> this radio may not be for you!"

What I have seen over and over again starting with the
Kachina, then Pegasus, and now with the SDR-1000/Flex-5000A
is that those who approach these radios with a truly open
mind will be the ones who will "get it" and will also be
happy with them. If they don't start out with a fresh "let's
see what this thing can do that I couldn't do before" kind of
attitude then they will come away disappointed in one way or
another. So I've concluded that the key is to capture the
newcomers early and don't let them develop bad UI
habits/mindsets that evolve from using knobs and buttons ;). 

> 
> It seems to me that Flex has it figured out pretty well and
> have so far
> survived where others have either failed or chosen to no
> longer compete.

Or they gave up too soon, and/or didn't divorce themselves
far enough away from the knobs and buttons paradigm and/or
didn't put the proper energy and effort into the *software*.

Duane
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 Pricing

[Jim Lux]

At 08:58 AM 10/1/2007, Philip Covington wrote:

>Well, that is certainly true.  You can't blame a company for charging
>what the market will bear.  I just hope that after they hype/newness
>wears off and reality sinks in, that the customers still see it as a
>good deal.


I suspect that it's not a matter of charging what the market will 
bear, but more some reasonable margin on manufacturing and support 
cost.  It's a heck of a lot cheaper than commercial products with 
comparable capability (price something like a JTRS rack, or one of 
the SDR widgets from MindReady, for a comparison)

Small volume stuff with high complexity is expensive.  Consider that 
the original 3 board stack, without a box, power supply, etc, was 
several hundred dollars.  The F5K is a lot more stuff and a lot more 
touch labor in assembly than the original SDR1K.


>My comparison to the cheapest offers from the other manufactures was
>aimed more at the question of whether the large difference in price
>(more than double) justifies the maybe 50% increase in performance
>that only the most extreme "engineering trophy" lovers really need :-)

Kind of like race cars.. speed is money, how fast do you want to 
go.  Each increment in performance costs a substantial amount.

You're paying a substantial premium to be on the leading edge with 
ANY general purpose/general coverage SDR today (excluding limited 
function devices like softrocks or eval boards or USRPs)



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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 contest performance

[Dave Blaschke]

If you worked me over the weekend on 160 meters during the contest, 
you worked a SDR-5000.

I spent about ten  hours over the weekend giving the SDR-5000 a good 
CW workout on 160 meters during the ARRL160 CW contest. Worked  875 
QSO's in all states and 44 countries. The radio receiver is 
absolutely exceptional under high congestion conditions. I used 100 
and 250 hz filter mostly.

I had a few transmit glitches. These would occur whenever I let up on 
the CW key. Most were cleared by restarting PowerSDR, however, four 
required a shutdown and restart of the hardware, and one required a 
complete computer reboot. Such failures were very frustrating when I 
was running a pileup. So there are gremlins and bugs in there, NOT 
SURPRISING for a system of software this complex and open source.

I was using  release 1776 (as I remember) through 1780 for the 
contest. I used Winkey for direct keying in order to unburdon the 
computer a bit. My CPU runs at about 3.5 to 5 %.

Dave, W5UN


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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 VOX control

[Dave Blaschke]

I use a Heil microphone with the HC-5 element. When I select VOX , 
audio pickup  seems to be way too sensitive, as I have to set VOX to 
full scale (1000), and  even that setting is still overly sensitive. 
Are there other settings that affect VOX ? Anyone have any ideas how 
to handle this?

Dave, W5UN


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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Ross Stenberg]

I have owned an SDR-5000 for about 3 years now that has worked flawlessly 
(except for the blue power switch that sticks on occasion). This is just a 
question of curiosity. The other day I checked the power output on CW with a 
fairly accurate wattmeter. It closely agrees with the meter on PowerSDR which 
reads 122 watts. Is  this in the range that others see? Not bad for a 100 watt 
radio. All transmit calibration is as it left the factory.

73 Ross K9COX.
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Bill Roberts]

I noticed a tendency toward lower output on my F5KA when going from 1.18.5
to 2.0.16.  On the earlier release feeding a Heath Cantenna dummy load
(1.1:1 SWR typical), I noticed audio peaks between 120 - 147 watts on an RF
Applications digital power/swr meter.  Going to 2.0.16 brings typical peaks
to between 88 and 100 watts.  Similar changes are noticed in actual
operation using resonant antennas with no more than 1.2:1 SWR.  Gerald
commented briefly that some modifications had been made to produce more
compliant ALC action in the newer version of PowerSDR.  Given the same
readings on the MIC meter, I do need to increase drive level to 65 - 75
watts to get slightly under 600 watts our of my ALS-600 amp.  In all cases,
the ALC adjust control is at the 2 o'clock position on the amp.

 

 Bill Roberts

Radio Station K8DXX

 

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 problems

[Dudley Hurry]

Dave,

There will be some anomalies that you might see either connected to a 
dummy load or without an antenna that lay in the noise floor because 
the noise floor is so low.  Most radios might not even hear or see 
their noise because the noise floor is higher and covers these sort 
of things up..  Even if you see something, it should not be in the 
passband of the receiver,  and try turning on SR (spur reduction) 
which is normally off on the 5K but if the noise shifts when SR is 
engaged,  usually indicates an internal generated noise.   These 
things will show up from time to time,  but if they are a big 
problem,  be sure to turn it in via the Bug Tracker

http://support.flex-radio.com/login.aspx

73,
Dudley
WA5QPZ



At 03:02 PM 2/25/2008, Dave Blaschke wrote:
>I am experiencing strange problems with my SDR-5000, which have just
>recently appeared. Before I contact Flex directly, I thought I would
>ask here and see if anyone has experienced a similar situation.
>
>The most visible problem is that a very broad and nasty spur has
>appeared on 160 meters. It is about 10 kHz wide and centered on 1.826
>kHz. Similar spurs, with less amplitude occur at 1.850 and 1.858 on
>the high side, and on 1.804 and 1.818 on the low side. I also find a
>similar spur covering 5.334 to 5.343 kHz. These nasty signals are
>there with or without the antenna connected. If I connect an antenna,
>the baseline signal and spurs all rise the same amount..
>
>At first, I thought that some external source was generating this
>interference. However I have turned off everything, excluding the
>computer on which SDR-5000 is running. After disconnecting the
>antenna and seeing the interference remain, I have to believe that
>the interference is being somehow internally generated.
>
>I have tried reinstalling prior firmware, using earlier versions of
>PowerSDR, and complete computer reboots, but nothing changes.
>
>If anyone has seen something similar to this, please let me know.
>
>Dave, W5UN
>
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 problems

[INOUE Takafumi]

Dave,

I have a similar problem with both SDR1K and Flex5K.
With my SDR1K the nasty spur(or noise?) centered at 14.126 is most prominent.
It rises the noise floor by 10 to 20dB and covers +-10kHz.
Others occur at 3.54, 7.069, 21.186 and each has different level and width.
It looks like a plateau on the panadaptor display and on some bands
the shape changes periodically.
It is heard within the passband and actually interfers weak signal reception.
Turning on the spur reduction shifts the noise frequency somewhat but
the noise still can be heard.

When I got my 5000 I hoped that these noise did not exist any more.
It still exists for example at 3.570-3.580, 7.140-7.160, etc. with my unit.
But when the antenna is connected it does not cause problem in practice so far.
I wonder it is due to the lower noise floor of the unit itself or the
higher man-made noise at my new location.

I'd like to know how these noise is generated (and can be eliminated).

Takafumi
JI3GAB

At 03:02 PM 2/25/2008, Dave Blaschke wrote:
>I am experiencing strange problems with my SDR-5000, which have just
>recently appeared. Before I contact Flex directly, I thought I would
>ask here and see if anyone has experienced a similar situation.
>
>The most visible problem is that a very broad and nasty spur has
>appeared on 160 meters. It is about 10 kHz wide and centered on 1.826
>kHz. Similar spurs, with less amplitude occur at 1.850 and 1.858 on
>the high side, and on 1.804 and 1.818 on the low side. I also find a
>similar spur covering 5.334 to 5.343 kHz. These nasty signals are
>there with or without the antenna connected. If I connect an antenna,
>the baseline signal and spurs all rise the same amount..
>
>At first, I thought that some external source was generating this
>interference. However I have turned off everything, excluding the
>computer on which SDR-5000 is running. After disconnecting the
>antenna and seeing the interference remain, I have to believe that
>the interference is being somehow internally generated.
>
>I have tried reinstalling prior firmware, using earlier versions of
>PowerSDR, and complete computer reboots, but nothing changes.
>
>If anyone has seen something similar to this, please let me know.
>
>Dave, W5UN


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed]

[Larry Taft]

I would expect the first round of improvements and bug fixes will 
appearabout 20 minutes after the F5K hits the street. This is why the 
Flex Radio is the best way to go for ham radio. As the SDR1000 has 
shown,the open software/small amount of modern hardware system brings 
changes and fixes on a daily basis, sometimes faster than an old fart 
like mecan keep up with.

I will soon send in my prepaid order.  Just have to get past tax time.

73, Larry  K2LT
(only 55 years in ham radio)

Phil LaMarche wrote:
> Not a single person responded!
>
>
> I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
> a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
> practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
> I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
> Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
> fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
>  
> Phil
>  
>  
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[Bob Tracy]

Phil,

I'm not sure you've asked a question that has a finite answer.

Since you are a Flex user now, you've already overcome a large part of the
learning curve.  Before I retired I used to tell my programmers that if they
wanted to find the bugs in their code, just turn it over to the users.  It
can be an humbling experience!  So, I suspect that for the first few months
after the F5K family hits the streets there will be a flurry of little bugs
to squash.

Keep in mind that a lot of the code used in the new radio has already been
tested (by lots of users) in the latest SVN releases.  I don't have any
personal knowledge of what the new radio looks like but I suspect there are
sections of code that can only be tested with the new hardware and that is
where the majority of any problems will crop up.  Having said that, I also
know Eric and Bob are extremely competent software designers and the code
will be as solid as possible at first release.

Look back on your experience with the SDR-1000.  There may be one or two
persistent bugs that haven't be squashed but the majority are fixed with
days (if not hours) after reported.  I expect the same response time will be
true on the new radios.

So when do you jump in?  That depends on your tolerance threshold, I think
I'd do it early on just on the bet this new series of radios will be better
(I have trouble even imagining this) than my SDR-1000.

73,


Bob K5KDN

P.S. I've been licensed for 52 years so we must be at about the same "state
of maturity" where learning new stuff is not quite as easy as it used to be.
:>)

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Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed



Not a single person responded!


I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.

Phil


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[Frank Mayer]

That depends on a lot of things.  Most of which cannot be forecasted.  Some 
rigs come off without a hitch from the beginning.  Other rigs never do get the 
bugs out.  
That said I think factory support is extremely important.  Flex Radio has 
always impressed me in that regard.  Like my grandfather used to say,  "It's 
not a Stradivarius"  Place the order and have fun.  Flex will hang with you.
Frank,  WA3JBT
  - Original Message - 
  From: Phil LaMarche 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 10:23 AM
  Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed



  Not a single person responded!


  I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
  a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
  practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
  I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
  Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
  fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
   
  Phil
   
   
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[petervn]

I would like to help you Phil, and read you question.
 
But what I could tell you is a bit of gueswork.
The software for the 5000 will be not so difficult and
pretty good as most of it mirrors the 1k software.
and a bug stil remaining will be found (and corrected) in no time.
So you do not have to wait for that.
 
The hardware is straigtforward, but a problem there may take 
more time and possible sending back the hardware. I am sure
the men (and woman) at flex will do a good job but some
shortcommings will show only as more sets are sold and used.
I would wait a 100 to 200 days after first deliverry if I want to be sure.
 
That is the little bit that I can contribute...
 
73 de Peter pa0pvn
 
groeten Peter
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Sent: Sun 15-4-2007 16:23
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed




Not a single person responded!


I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.

Phil


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[k5nwa]

What answer do you want to hear? It will be a will guess no matter 
who gives an answer. Maybe that is why people don't care to venture 
into that question.

My guess as a Star Trek fan is 6 month 2 days 3 hours 47 minutes and 
17 seconds give or take one second.


At 09:23 AM 4/15/2007, you wrote:

>Not a single person responded!
>
>
>I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am not
>a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
>practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve should
>I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
>Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
>fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
>
>Phil
>
>
>Philip LaMarche
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[Edwin Marzan]

Hi Phil,

I am one who never purchases version 1 of any product especially computer 
software and hardware. That said, I believe you should monitor the reflector 
when the new product is released to see what problems if any are being 
reported. I'd say wait at least 3 months but no more than 6 months (ballpark 
figure based upon gut feeling). Also note that demand for the new units will 
be high and it may take some time after you make your decision to actually 
obtain one.

Additionally, most problems are immediately adressed by Flex so if you do 
encounter a problem your resolution will not be far behind.

Hope I helped!



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "Phil LaMarche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed
>Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:23:03 -0400
>
>
>Not a single person responded!
>
>
>I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I am 
>not
>a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with loads of
>practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve 
>should
>I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love my
>Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and have
>fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
>
>Phil
>
>
>Philip LaMarche
>LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>www.instantgourmetspices.com <http://www.instantgourmetspices.com/>
>www.W9DVM.com <http://www.w9dvm.com/>
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

[Tim Ellison]

I can understand some folk's reservation about waiting for the 2nd or
3rd production run of the radios before buying one, but history shows
that FlexRadio is much different than other hardware manufactures.  When
the SDR-1000 came out, there were various ECOs that corrected problems.
You could send in your radio and get the fixes that matched the
production units being sold at that time, so your risk for getting a
version that is not like later versions is just about nil.  Mine was
purchased 2.5 years ago and it has all of the changes (sans the RoHS
board) so that is identical to the last ones produced.

As far as software is concerned, if you are using the SDR-X code, you
are already running the same code that will ship with the FLEX-5000.
You are just not using the F5K specific hardware code, which I am sure,
will be well "beat up" by the beta testers before they ship it after
Dayton.

I plan to have one in my shack in June.

-Tim

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Sunday, April 15, 2007 12:50 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed

Hi Phil,

I am one who never purchases version 1 of any product especially
computer 
software and hardware. That said, I believe you should monitor the
reflector 
when the new product is released to see what problems if any are being 
reported. I'd say wait at least 3 months but no more than 6 months
(ballpark 
figure based upon gut feeling). Also note that demand for the new units
will 
be high and it may take some time after you make your decision to
actually 
obtain one.

Additionally, most problems are immediately adressed by Flex so if you
do 
encounter a problem your resolution will not be far behind.

Hope I helped!



Edwin Marzan
AB2VW





>From: "Phil LaMarche" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: [Flexradio] SDR 5000 advice needed
>Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2007 10:23:03 -0400
>
>
>Not a single person responded!
>
>
>I will be purchasing the new radio but have a question for advice.  I
am 
>not
>a electronic engineer or computer genius.  A ham for 58 years with
loads of
>practical experience.  That said, how long into the 1st release curve 
>should
>I wait to have some of the bugs stomped on by the smart guys.  I love
my
>Flex and with the help of other Flexers, I have been able to learn and
have
>fun and I love the radio.  Sold a PRO 3 to get it.
>
>Phil
>
>
>Philip LaMarche
>LaMarche Enterprises, Inc.
>www.instantgourmetspices.com <http://www.instantgourmetspices.com/>
>www.W9DVM.com <http://www.w9dvm.com/>
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 and XVTR power

[Dave Blaschke]

How does one set the power to a low value for output to a 
transverter? I need milliwatts, not watts, for my LT2S.

Dave, W5UN


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 contest performance

[lwloen]

> If you worked me over the weekend on 160 meters during the contest,
> you worked a SDR-5000.
>
> I spent about ten  hours over the weekend giving the SDR-5000 a good
> CW workout on 160 meters during the ARRL160 CW contest. Worked  875
> QSO's in all states and 44 countries. The radio receiver is
> absolutely exceptional under high congestion conditions. I used 100
> and 250 hz filter mostly.
>
> I had a few transmit glitches. These would occur whenever I let up on
> the CW key. Most were cleared by restarting PowerSDR, however, four
> required a shutdown and restart of the hardware, and one required a
> complete computer reboot. Such failures were very frustrating when I
> was running a pileup. So there are gremlins and bugs in there, NOT
> SURPRISING for a system of software this complex and open source.
>

Congratulations on your results!

The big issue, IMO, is the youth of the firmware.  Once we get past some
of these, I predict you'll find the rig outstandingly stable.  I'd say 3
to 6 months, based on my own history with both rigs.  It has nothing to do
with open source IME.  We just need a bit more burn-in on the firmware. 
That's no surprise, really.

And, I would have been doing the production PowerSDR for a contest, at
least these days I would, but to each his own.



Larry Wo0Z


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 VOX control

[Tim Ellison]

Are you using an SVN version or 1.10.3?

-Tim



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Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 VOX control

I use a Heil microphone with the HC-5 element. When I select VOX ,
audio pickup  seems to be way too sensitive, as I have to set VOX to
full scale (1000), and  even that setting is still overly sensitive.
Are there other settings that affect VOX ? Anyone have any ideas how
to handle this?

Dave, W5UN


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Kevin Hobbs]

Hi Ross

Doesn't agree with what I see ... my 5000 used to make very close 100W (a
little under). After recent return from VU upgrade I am only seeing 70-86W
HF-50. I will try to recalibrate when I get a chance and see if I can find
my missing watts!

Kevin


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Sent: November-27-10 10:01 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

I have owned an SDR-5000 for about 3 years now that has worked flawlessly
(except for the blue power switch that sticks on occasion). This is just a
question of curiosity. The other day I checked the power output on CW with a
fairly accurate wattmeter. It closely agrees with the meter on PowerSDR
which reads 122 watts. Is  this in the range that others see? Not bad for a
100 watt radio. All transmit calibration is as it left the factory.

73 Ross K9COX.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Bill]

Is that into a dummy load or an antenna?

On my Flex5, using the antenna always results in a higher wattage than 
the dummy load.




On 11/27/2010 9:01 AM, Ross Stenberg wrote:

I have owned an SDR-5000 for about 3 years now that has worked flawlessly 
(except for the blue power switch that sticks on occasion). This is just a 
question of curiosity. The other day I checked the power output on CW with a 
fairly accurate wattmeter. It closely agrees with the meter on PowerSDR which 
reads 122 watts. Is  this in the range that others see? Not bad for a 100 watt 
radio. All transmit calibration is as it left the factory.

 73 Ross K9COX.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Ray - K9DUR]

Ross,

Was that into a dummy load?  If not, what is the SWR?  If the SWR is not
1:1, you will see a false high power reading.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info


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Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2010 10:01 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

I have owned an SDR-5000 for about 3 years now that has worked flawlessly
(except for the blue power switch that sticks on occasion). This is just a
question of curiosity. The other day I checked the power output on CW with a
fairly accurate wattmeter. It closely agrees with the meter on PowerSDR
which reads 122 watts. Is  this in the range that others see? Not bad for a
100 watt radio. All transmit calibration is as it left the factory.

73 Ross K9COX.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Peter E. Beedlow]

Similar interesting output indications here. For example on 12 and 17-meters
60 watts output to a dummy load and if I leave the drive slider at 100 watts
I get a hard crash of PSDR and the computer. (Stock 5KC and V1.18.3) If the
problem persists after there is a really stable version of PSDR 2. I'll
deal with the problem then.

Pete, NN9K


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Sent: November/27/2010 9:22 AM
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Subject: Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

Is that into a dummy load or an antenna?

On my Flex5, using the antenna always results in a higher wattage than 
the dummy load.



On 11/27/2010 9:01 AM, Ross Stenberg wrote:
> I have owned an SDR-5000 for about 3 years now that has worked flawlessly
(except for the blue power switch that sticks on occasion). This is just a
question of curiosity. The other day I checked the power output on CW with a
fairly accurate wattmeter. It closely agrees with the meter on PowerSDR
which reads 122 watts. Is  this in the range that others see? Not bad for a
100 watt radio. All transmit calibration is as it left the factory.
>
>  73 Ross K9COX.
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 power output

[Ross Stenberg]

That was into a good 50 ohm dummy load at about 1.2:1 SWR




Ross,

Was that into a dummy load?  If not, what is the SWR?  If the SWR is not
1:1, you will see a false high power reading.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 and Win 2K

[Ross Stenberg]

I am attempting to use Win 2K with an SDR-5000. I probably assumed
incorrectly that the combination would work since The SYBA Firewire card
installed fine and PowerSDR 10.1.4 seemed to work fine as well. The driver
3.0.0.70 will not install correctly and shows up as a sound device. I read
in the knowledge base that since Firewire is not natively supported in Win
2K but assumed it would not be an issue since the recommended SYBA card
would work. Any ideas? Thanks for any suggestions (I know...just buy a new
computer, it is an Athlon 3400+ or get XP... or even worse Vista)

73 Ross K9COX




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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 and blind Ham

[dl2rdh]

Hello !

I search a software which permits blind Ham´s to control the SDR-5000.

Vy 73 de Wolfgang, DL2RDH



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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 fails some tests

[Dave Blaschke]

I have the SDR-5000. If I press CTRL-SHIFT-P and run tests, is it 
normal that several of the tests will fail?

Dave, W5UN


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[Flexradio] SDR-5000 problems, follow-up

[Dave Blaschke]

I have reloaded the Firewire driver and latest firmware in an attempt 
to get a fix on my problem. Now, whenever I attempt to start a clean 
and new PowerSDR, it gives the usual message of transferring data 
from the EEPROM, then stops and gives the message "Bad Data detected 
in EEPROM, PA Power (B30M,4)=15745620...000.

Anyone know what this all about? I will call Dudley tomorrow.

Dave, W5UN


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and XVTR power

[Bob Tracy]

Dave,

I think it is spelled "ATTENUATOR" ;>).

73,

Bob K5KDN

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How does one set the power to a low value for output to a 
transverter? I need milliwatts, not watts, for my LT2S.

Dave, W5UN


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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and XVTR power

[Dale Boresz]

Dave,

You should drive your transverter from the "XVTX/COM" BNC connector on 
the rear panel. It's my understanding that the drive level from the 
XVTX/COM port is about 5 to 8 dBm. In order to use this port however, 
you'll have to use the "XVTR Setup" form, accessible from the "XVTRs" 
menu option on the PowerSDR menu bar.

73, Dale
WA8SRA


Dave Blaschke wrote:
> How does one set the power to a low value for output to a 
> transverter? I need milliwatts, not watts, for my LT2S.
>
> Dave, W5UN
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and XVTR power

[Ray J]

The  XVTX/COM  port is not low power??
 I would think it is but i don't have one so i am only guessing


Ray J
W9RAY


Bob Tracy wrote:
> Dave,
>
> I think it is spelled "ATTENUATOR" ;>).
>
> 73,
>
> Bob K5KDN
>
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>
>
> How does one set the power to a low value for output to a 
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>
> Dave, W5UN
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and XVTR power

[Edward J White]

Let all of us have the answer too please

Dave Blaschke wrote:
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> transverter? I need milliwatts, not watts, for my LT2S.
>
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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and Win 2K

[Tim Ellison]

Ross,

Please review the PowerSDR Compatibility Statement
http://www.flex-radio.com/Support.aspx?topic=PowerSDR_Compatibility

PowerSDR is not fully supported on Win2K.  But doesn't mean you can't get it to 
work.

BTW, The FLEX-5000 Firewire driver is recognized by Windows XP as a soundcard 
device.  Your best bet is to get a supported operating system.  I would 
recommend XP over Vista for reasons that are not related to PowerSDR.  An 
upgrade to XP can be had for less than $100.
http://edirectbuy.net/index.php?categoryID=87


-Tim


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ross Stenberg
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 5:25 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and Win 2K

I am attempting to use Win 2K with an SDR-5000. I probably assumed
incorrectly that the combination would work since The SYBA Firewire card
installed fine and PowerSDR 10.1.4 seemed to work fine as well. The driver
3.0.0.70 will not install correctly and shows up as a sound device. I read
in the knowledge base that since Firewire is not natively supported in Win
2K but assumed it would not be an issue since the recommended SYBA card
would work. Any ideas? Thanks for any suggestions (I know...just buy a new
computer, it is an Athlon 3400+ or get XP... or even worse Vista)

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Re: [Flexradio] SDR-5000 and Win 2K

[Charles Greene]

Ross,

What modem are you using?  I successfully used a AEA 2232 radio modem 
with my SDR-1000, on Pactor I and HF packet.  PII and PIII should 
work as well if I had a SCS modem.  If this is of interest, contact 
me off line and I will send your the details.  I am using a Firebox 
but  did not interface the modem through the friebox.

Chas



At 05:24 PM 1/28/2008, Ross Stenberg wrote:
>I am attempting to use Win 2K with an SDR-5000. I probably assumed
>incorrectly that the combination would work since The SYBA Firewire card
>installed fine and PowerSDR 10.1.4 seemed to work fine as well. The driver
>3.0.0.70 will not install correctly and shows up as a sound device. I read
>in the knowledge base that since Firewire is not natively supported in Win
>2K but assumed it would not be an issue since the recommended SYBA card
>would work. Any ideas? Thanks for any suggestions (I know...just buy a new
>computer, it is an Athlon 3400+ or get XP... or even worse Vista)
>
> 73 Ross K9COX
>
>
>
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