Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
Latency is the reason we have not yet enabled working over a VPN, but not the reason it doesn't work. We use a protocol that generally does not cross a VPN (on purpose). If you know what you are doing with networks, it can be made to work, but unless you have a low latency network (most home networking VPN would not fall in this category), you won't be pleased with the results. Plus there is no audio, so you could see but not hear yet. We will tackle remote in the future which necessarily includes latency compensation and remote audio. Steve On Thursday, June 13, 2013, Gregory Zenger [N2GZ] wrote: Steve, Im curious as to why, shouldn't the VPN be transparent between the radio and controlling computer? Is it a latency issue? -Greg -- Steve Stephen Hicks, N5AC VP Engineering FlexRadio Systems™ 4616 W Howard Ln Ste 1-150 Austin, TX 78728 Phone: 512-535-4713 x205 Email: st...@flexradio.com Web: www.flexradio.com Click Here for PGP Public Keyhttps://sites.google.com/a/flex-radio.com/pgp-public-keys/n5ac *Tune In Excitement™* PowerSDR™ is a trademark of FlexRadio Systems ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
From what I'm reading, this describes a wired remote operation. Can the new flex radios be accessed truly remotely, via an Internet connection? On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, wrote: Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.com javascript:; writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz javascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ Flexedge mailing list flexe...@flex-radio.biz javascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software innovation and other technical SDR topics. -- *Best 73 de WA2SQQ Elmwood Park, NJ The only dumb questions are those we don't ask* ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
I understood this usage in the article to be LAN based with his shack on the other part of his property, not WAN and over the internet. But everything I read previously says internet remote usage will be coming in a later release when firewall and security has been nailed down. -Original Message- From: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.com Sent: 6/5/2013 8:30 AM To: k8...@aol.com k8...@aol.com Cc: flexe...@flex-radio.biz flexe...@flex-radio.biz; flexradio@flex-radio.biz flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience From what I'm reading, this describes a wired remote operation. Can the new flex radios be accessed truly remotely, via an Internet connection? On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, wrote: Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.com javascript:; writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz javascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ Flexedge mailing list flexe...@flex-radio.biz javascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software innovation and other technical SDR topics. -- *Best 73 de WA2SQQ Elmwood Park, NJ The only dumb questions are those we don't ask* ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
This is indeed a wired remote operation. As Tim has already follow up, Internet operation is both possible and a future enhancement for SmartSDR and the 6000 series. NOTE: I do operate this lot remotely using Skype or RemAud for audio. I use UltraVNC for remote control of the computer running either PowerSDR or SmartSDR. Stu K6TU From: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.commailto:wa2...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:29 AM To: k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com Cc: STU PHILLIPS s...@ridgelift.commailto:s...@ridgelift.com, Flex Radio flexradio@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz, Flex Edge flexe...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexe...@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience From what I'm reading, this describes a wired remote operation. Can the new flex radios be accessed truly remotely, via an Internet connection? On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, wrote: Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.comjavascript:; writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ Flexedge mailing list flexe...@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software innovation and other technical SDR topics. -- Best 73 de WA2SQQ Elmwood Park, NJ The only dumb questions are those we don't ask ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
And to be perfectly clear, that IP remote operation will include the audio streams? I can't imagine it being otherwise, but I've been surprised before. Thanks, Jim N7CXI Sent from mobile wireless Original message From: Stu Phillips s...@ridgelift.com Date: 06/05/2013 11:34 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.com,k8...@aol.com Cc: flexe...@flex-radio.biz,flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience This is indeed a wired remote operation. As Tim has already follow up, Internet operation is both possible and a future enhancement for SmartSDR and the 6000 series. NOTE: I do operate this lot remotely using Skype or RemAud for audio. I use UltraVNC for remote control of the computer running either PowerSDR or SmartSDR. Stu K6TU From: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.commailto:wa2...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:29 AM To: k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com Cc: STU PHILLIPS s...@ridgelift.commailto:s...@ridgelift.com, Flex Radio flexradio@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz, Flex Edge flexe...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexe...@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience From what I'm reading, this describes a wired remote operation. Can the new flex radios be accessed truly remotely, via an Internet connection? On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, wrote: Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.comjavascript:; writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ Flexedge mailing list flexe...@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software innovation and other technical SDR topics. -- Best 73 de WA2SQQ Elmwood Park, NJ The only dumb questions are those we don't ask ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
Don't see why not. Ten-Tec has been doing it with their Omni VII for years now. 73 Wayne K4ELO On Wed, Jun 5, 2013, at 02:27 PM, Jim Barber wrote: And to be perfectly clear, that IP remote operation will include the audio streams? I can't imagine it being otherwise, but I've been surprised before. Thanks, Jim N7CXI Sent from mobile wireless Original message From: Stu Phillips s...@ridgelift.com Date: 06/05/2013 11:34 AM (GMT-08:00) To: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.com,k8...@aol.com Cc: flexe...@flex-radio.biz,flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience This is indeed a wired remote operation. As Tim has already follow up, Internet operation is both possible and a future enhancement for SmartSDR and the 6000 series. NOTE: I do operate this lot remotely using Skype or RemAud for audio. I use UltraVNC for remote control of the computer running either PowerSDR or SmartSDR. Stu K6TU From: Bob Kay wa2...@gmail.commailto:wa2...@gmail.com Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2013 5:29 AM To: k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com k8...@aol.commailto:k8...@aol.com Cc: STU PHILLIPS s...@ridgelift.commailto:s...@ridgelift.com, Flex Radio flexradio@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz, Flex Edge flexe...@flex-radio.bizmailto:flexe...@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience From what I'm reading, this describes a wired remote operation. Can the new flex radios be accessed truly remotely, via an Internet connection? On Tuesday, June 4, 2013, wrote: Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.comjavascript:; writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ Flexedge mailing list flexe...@flex-radio.bizjavascript:; http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexedge_flex-radio.biz This is the FlexRadio Systems e-mail Reflector called FlexEdge. It is used for posting topics related to SDR software innovation and other technical SDR topics. -- Best 73 de WA2SQQ Elmwood Park, NJ The only dumb questions are those we don't ask ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on FlexRadio 6700 on air experience
Stu, Happy to see I made your blog. You sounded great with your FLEX 6700 and KW. I was running barefoot with my FLEX 5000. It appears you didn't have to work too hard to hear me. Next time I'll put the big AMP on. 73, Bob K8MLM In a message dated 6/4/2013 1:51:31 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, s...@ridgelift.com writes: Folks, Updated my blog this am with my latest on-air experiences with the FlexRadio 6700. http://bit.ly/18LFNl4 73 and enjoy! Stu K6TU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update all previous versions before PowerSDR v2.5.3 ??
Just install 2.5.3, it is all inclusive. Tim Ellison On 12/13/2012 9:36 AM, W1JCW wrote: I'm running 2.2.3 do I need to update all versions 2.3.5, 2.4.4 up to the current 2.3.5 or can I just upgrade to the current version 2.3.5 ?? 73- W1JCW John From: Tim Ellison, W4TME mailto:t...@flex-radio.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:05 AM To: Flex Radio mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v2.5.3 is now available for download To all Flexers, FlexRadio Systems is pleased to announce the general availability of the newest release of PowerSDR, version 2.5.3 intended for use with the SDR-1000, FLEX-1500, FLEX-3000 and FLEX-5000 software defined radios. PowerSDR v2.5.3 has several new features, existing feature enhancements and bug fixes. We recommend that all customers upgrade to v2.5.3 (see the links below). PowerSDR v2.5.3 contains several new enhancements and bug fixes. As with any new release of PowerSDR v2.x it is highly recommended that you review the PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes before installing. If you are upgrading from PowerSDR v2.3.5 and have not installed PowerSDR v2.4.4 which contained a new Firewire driver, the Release Notes will provide important information regarding the upgrade as there is a new Firewire driver and firmware that is not backwards compatible with previous versions of PowerSDR 2.x. While all the improvements and bug fixes are too numerous to detail, the following is a list of major changes since the previous official release, PowerSDR v2.4.4. A full listing is included in the Release Notes. 1.New FlexControl Basic and Advanced Operation Modes 2.Waterfall Low/High Levels now Stored by Band 3.New Keyboard Commands for Controlling the Drive setting 4.New Option to Disable Split on Mode Change 5.Default AGC-T Settings Refactored by Band for Better Signal to Noise Performance 6.New FHM-1 (Flex Hand Microphone) TX Profiles 7.Changes for Windows 8 Compatibility 8.NR, ANF and Noise Blankers Automatically Disabled When Operating Digital Modes Where to Download: PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=411 PowerSDR v2.5.3 Integrated Installer: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=410 We hope you enjoy the new version of PowerSDR v2.5.3 and have a great holiday season. - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update all previous versions before PowerSDR v2.5.3 ??
Yes, or use Ray's K9DUR Data Transfer program http://k9dur.rnaconsultingservices.com/SDRDataTransfer.aspx Tim Ellison On 12/13/2012 10:15 AM, W1JCW wrote: So the only thing I should do is export the database and run the 235.exe ? Thanks John -Original Message- From: FlexRadio [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2012 9:06 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update all previous versions before PowerSDR v2.5.3 ?? Just install 2.5.3, it is all inclusive. Tim Ellison On 12/13/2012 9:36 AM, W1JCW wrote: I'm running 2.2.3 do I need to update all versions 2.3.5, 2.4.4 up to the current 2.3.5 or can I just upgrade to the current version 2.3.5 ?? 73- W1JCW John From: Tim Ellison, W4TME mailto:t...@flex-radio.com Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:05 AM To: Flex Radio mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v2.5.3 is now available for download To all Flexers, FlexRadio Systems is pleased to announce the general availability of the newest release of PowerSDR, version 2.5.3 intended for use with the SDR-1000, FLEX-1500, FLEX-3000 and FLEX-5000 software defined radios. PowerSDR v2.5.3 has several new features, existing feature enhancements and bug fixes. We recommend that all customers upgrade to v2.5.3 (see the links below). PowerSDR v2.5.3 contains several new enhancements and bug fixes. As with any new release of PowerSDR v2.x it is highly recommended that you review the PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes before installing. If you are upgrading from PowerSDR v2.3.5 and have not installed PowerSDR v2.4.4 which contained a new Firewire driver, the Release Notes will provide important information regarding the upgrade as there is a new Firewire driver and firmware that is not backwards compatible with previous versions of PowerSDR 2.x. While all the improvements and bug fixes are too numerous to detail, the following is a list of major changes since the previous official release, PowerSDR v2.4.4. A full listing is included in the Release Notes. 1.New FlexControl Basic and Advanced Operation Modes 2.Waterfall Low/High Levels now Stored by Band 3.New Keyboard Commands for Controlling the Drive setting 4.New Option to Disable Split on Mode Change 5.Default AGC-T Settings Refactored by Band for Better Signal to Noise Performance 6.New FHM-1 (Flex Hand Microphone) TX Profiles 7.Changes for Windows 8 Compatibility 8.NR, ANF and Noise Blankers Automatically Disabled When Operating Digital Modes Where to Download: PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=411 PowerSDR v2.5.3 Integrated Installer: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=410 We hope you enjoy the new version of PowerSDR v2.5.3 and have a great holiday season. - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update previous versions before PowerSDR v2.5.3 ??
No, you do not. Every version of PowerSDR is 100% independent of the previous versions and the latest version is all inclusive. Tim Ellison On 12/11/2012 5:24 PM, W1JCW wrote: Guys - If I'm running 2.2.3 do I need to update all previous 2.3.5, 2.4.4 versions up to the current 2.3.5 or can I just upgrade to the current version 2.3.5 ?? 73- W1JCW John From: Tim Ellison, W4TME Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:05 AM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v2.5.3 is now available for download To all Flexers, FlexRadio Systems is pleased to announce the general availability of the newest release of PowerSDR, version 2.5.3 intended for use with the SDR-1000, FLEX-1500, FLEX-3000 and FLEX-5000 software defined radios. PowerSDR v2.5.3 has several new features, existing feature enhancements and bug fixes. We recommend that all customers upgrade to v2.5.3 (see the links below). PowerSDR v2.5.3 contains several new enhancements and bug fixes. As with any new release of PowerSDR v2.x it is highly recommended that you review the PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes before installing. If you are upgrading from PowerSDR v2.3.5 and have not installed PowerSDR v2.4.4 which contained a new Firewire driver, the Release Notes will provide important information regarding the upgrade as there is a new Firewire driver and firmware that is not backwards compatible with previous versions of PowerSDR 2.x. While all the improvements and bug fixes are too numerous to detail, the following is a list of major changes since the previous official release, PowerSDR v2.4.4. A full listing is included in the Release Notes. 1.New FlexControl Basic and Advanced Operation Modes 2.Waterfall Low/High Levels now Stored by Band 3.New Keyboard Commands for Controlling the Drive setting 4.New Option to Disable Split on Mode Change 5.Default AGC-T Settings Refactored by Band for Better Signal to Noise Performance 6.New FHM-1 (Flex Hand Microphone) TX Profiles 7.Changes for Windows 8 Compatibility 8.NR, ANF and Noise Blankers Automatically Disabled When Operating Digital Modes Where to Download: PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=411 PowerSDR v2.5.3 Integrated Installer: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=410 We hope you enjoy the new version of PowerSDR v2.5.3 and have a great holiday season. - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update previous versions before PowerSDR v2.5.3 ??
With PowerSDR v2.4.4 and greater, this feature has been removed. You can uninstall previous version of PowerSDR and the skins do not disappear any more. Tim Ellison On 12/12/2012 10:56 AM, Neal Campbell wrote: With the exception of the skins folder (ie, if you uninstall a previous version prior to 2.3.5, it will delete the skins folder so when you run PSDR 2.3.5, it looks butt-ugly!) 73 Neal Campbell Owner Abroham Neal LLC Work:+1 540 645 5394 Mobile: +1 540 645 8171 On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 7:13 AM, Tim Ellison t.m.ellison...@gmail.com mailto:t.m.ellison...@gmail.com wrote: No, you do not. Every version of PowerSDR is 100% independent of the previous versions and the latest version is all inclusive. Tim Ellison On 12/11/2012 5:24 PM, W1JCW wrote: Guys - If I'm running 2.2.3 do I need to update all previous 2.3.5, 2.4.4 versions up to the current 2.3.5 or can I just upgrade to the current version 2.3.5 ?? 73- W1JCW John From: Tim Ellison, W4TME Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 7:05 AM To: Flex Radio Subject: [Flexradio] PowerSDR v2.5.3 is now available for download To all Flexers, FlexRadio Systems is pleased to announce the general availability of the newest release of PowerSDR, version 2.5.3 intended for use with the SDR-1000, FLEX-1500, FLEX-3000 and FLEX-5000 software defined radios. PowerSDR v2.5.3 has several new features, existing feature enhancements and bug fixes. We recommend that all customers upgrade to v2.5.3 (see the links below). PowerSDR v2.5.3 contains several new enhancements and bug fixes. As with any new release of PowerSDR v2.x it is highly recommended that you review the PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes before installing. If you are upgrading from PowerSDR v2.3.5 and have not installed PowerSDR v2.4.4 which contained a new Firewire driver, the Release Notes will provide important information regarding the upgrade as there is a new Firewire driver and firmware that is not backwards compatible with previous versions of PowerSDR 2.x. While all the improvements and bug fixes are too numerous to detail, the following is a list of major changes since the previous official release, PowerSDR v2.4.4. A full listing is included in the Release Notes. 1.New FlexControl Basic and Advanced Operation Modes 2.Waterfall Low/High Levels now Stored by Band 3.New Keyboard Commands for Controlling the Drive setting 4.New Option to Disable Split on Mode Change 5.Default AGC-T Settings Refactored by Band for Better Signal to Noise Performance 6.New FHM-1 (Flex Hand Microphone) TX Profiles 7.Changes for Windows 8 Compatibility 8.NR, ANF and Noise Blankers Automatically Disabled When Operating Digital Modes Where to Download: PowerSDR v2.5.3 Release Notes: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=411 PowerSDR v2.5.3 Integrated Installer: http://support.flexradio.com/Downloads.aspx?id=410 We hope you enjoy the new version of PowerSDR v2.5.3 and have a great holiday season. - ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz mailto:FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update fldigi
Johnnie, This looks to be a Fldigi interaction with you Firewall software. I think it is a false positive if you are downloading it from the same place you have always downloaded Fldigi from. Tim Ellison On 6/18/2012 10:45 AM, ATT Online Services wrote: I tried to update Fldigi with 3.21.45, but got a red warning that it could harm my computer, delete it. what's up. Johnnie w6hty ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on status of replacement device driver for Flex1500?
It is a compound driver; there is a low-level streaming part (the one that had the bug) and an high-level driver that communicates with the hardware. Both are still be worked on and integrated together. Hopefully some of the internal alpha testers will get a crack at it in a week or so.The latest official update is on the home page of the web site. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of David Feldman Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:15 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Update on status of replacement device driver for Flex1500? Has there been an update I missed? I understood at last a sample radio had been received by the toolkit vendor but missed any subsequent updates. Thanks, ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update on status of replacement device driver for Flex1500?
David, The custom USB driver is fully functional in our lab in 64-bit mode. The DDK vendor promised to send us the 32-bit version next week. We then have to do the full integration into PowerSDR and the installer. Once that has been completed it will go to our alpha testers. If they find no problems we will then release to beta. Regards, Gerald Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR President and CEO FlexRadio Systems(TM) 13091 Pond Springs Road, #250 Austin, TX 78729 Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 202 Email: ger...@flex-radio.com Web: www.flex-radio.com Tune In Excitement (TM) PowerSDR(TM) is a trademark of FlexRadio Systems On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:14 PM, David Feldman wb0...@yahoo.com wrote: Has there been an update I missed? I understood at last a sample radio had been received by the toolkit vendor but missed any subsequent updates. Thanks, ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flexradio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flexradio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update: Acer netbook the 1500
Mike, Thanks for sharing you setup information. I suspect that the ATOM N270 is a bit under powered for low latency operation which is paramount for CW. I have an ATOM 330 desktop machine and even that processor struggles at times just running digital modes with DSP NR. Also routing the output AF through VAC will incur additional latencies that make matters even worse. On the CW sidetone issue, there was a post theis AM on FlexEdge regarding updating the firmware to get AF gain control of the CW sidetone feature in PowerSDR v2.0.6 -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Mike WA8BXN Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 11:19 AM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] Update: Acer netbook the 1500 I have made good progress getting the 1500 operational on CW and SSB. The most important setting was the audio buffer size to at least 1024, and 2048 works even better. VAC to get audio out the computer speakers does not work very well. On CW either the keyboard function of PowerSDR or an external keyer with its own sidetone must be used. I had to increase the tune power level from the default to get my auto tuner to work (a T1). The Acer netbook I am using is running XP and has an N270 processor, 1.5 GB RAM. Display size needed to be set to 1024 x 768, giving a scrollable virtual screen size. The entire PowerSDR window is visible on the actual 1024 x 600 display. CPU utilization is around 30%, with the PowerSDR display refresh rate set to 3. I am using panadapter mode. 73 - Mike WA8BXN ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Buy the SteppIR vertical and the beam. I have them both the BigIR vertical and the 20m-6m beam and think they are the best antennas you can buy...I recommend them to anyone. They are worth the hassle...I was just grousing about the fact that they seem to introduce a new product every other week but can't deliver on a timely basis the original products they introduced years ago. I apologize for being guilty of character assassination of well intentioned people trying to work through their growing pains...no place for that kind of thing on this reflector. Frank N1UW -Original Message- From: Larry Rappaport [mailto:r...@lmr.com] Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 2:31 PM To: n...@gokarns.com Subject: RE: [Flexradio] update? Thank you. I was just about to buy their big vertical to be followed by their 4 element beam. Not now. I have been spoiled by Flex and DXLab - their service is outstanding. 73, -- Larry Rappaport, W1HJF r...@lmr.com -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Frank Karnauskas N1UW Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:24 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? You want to experience the epitome in world-class lousy service? Buy something from SteppIR. Been there done that three times. No need to go into model railroading or astronomy to get some of that. Frank N1UW -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Tondee Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:22 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? You know I can understand someone being miffed at how long a preorder takes if they were actually charged for the merchandise at the time of preorder but Flex doesn't do that. Common sense would tell you that they are just as anxious to get the radio to you as you are to have it. All those preorders are money in limbo for them. You guys are lucky you don't also have model railroading as a hobby. Preordering models is the norm there. Most are limited runs so if you don't preorder, you don't get one and sometimes it takes over a year or more before you finally see the merchandise. Oh, and if enough folks don't preorder, they simply don't make the model. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 6/15/2010 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
I never jump into these frays.? Until now.? At what point does the integrity of the brainos at FlexrRadio Systems?need to be challenged?? Do you presume not only?that they are the?genious?behind producing the hottest transciever on the market today but that they have the resources of Omnicom and Interpublic of New York, WPP of London and Publicis of Paris?? Perhaps not. ? How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Nevertheless, many of you feel compelled to nit-pick FlexRadio Systems' marketing strategy.? OH PLEASE!? Do you burn?the local weatherman at the stake for blowing a forecast? ? Go find something else to whine about.? You are messing with today's Art Collins and you look silly. ? P~~~! ? ? ? WA5KRP Texas -Original Message- From: Neal Campbell lt;nealk...@gmail.comgt; To: Kevin Hobbs lt;ve...@cogeco.cagt; Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tue, Jun 15, 2010 8:55 pm Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Hi Kevin You must have missed the exchanges a couple of weeks ago with a few users proclaiming loss of faith (and worse) at the plans that Gerald would frequently make to the user community. He has gotten bitten several times by these few and after while I am sure decided that advance information, even caveated with the usual disclaimers abt stuff happens was not valuable to the user community nor their reputation. This is a classic case of be careful what you ask for. You might get it! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs lt;ve...@cogeco.cagt; wrote: gt; Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT gt; gt; It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking gt; your potential customers to PREORDER. gt; Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an gt; order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon gt; as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So gt; let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at gt; least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED gt; for gt; nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems gt; not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation gt; and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we gt; would simply like some factual progress reports. gt; gt; I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff gt; happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its gt; ready there would have lots of fireworks. gt; gt; So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands gt; their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. gt; gt; Kevin gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; gt; -Original Message- gt; From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz gt; [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM gt; To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz gt; Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? gt; gt; FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship gt; dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear gt; anything until products are actually shipping. gt; gt; When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be gt; PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a gt; personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order gt; ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the gt; rooftops too :-) gt; gt; I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the gt; engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues gt; for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are gt; working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to gt; sacrifice gt; quality for a rushed delivery. gt; gt; gt; -Tim gt; gt; -Original Message- gt; From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz gt; [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman gt; Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM gt
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Well boys and girls, looks like I started this by asking when to expect the update... sorry about that. I can add that I would prefer to wait than rush into something that is not ready. i was one of the first users of the ftdx9000d. Yaesu released it way to early trying to catch up with the icom 7800. They were sorry they released early and had headaches for 3 years, and headaches again on the upgrades. The new and upgraded 9000's are spectacular. Yaesu promised to begin the upgrades during october of 2008 and missed that date by 8 months. They did not keep us updated on the new schedule or when we would be called in. that upset a lot of loyal customers. Eventually we all were called in and taken care of. the upgraded 9000 was worth waiting for, however the communication could have been better. Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, wa5...@aol.com wrote: How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Yup! I was just there last week. They were all there burning the midnight oil on the F1500 and the VU module. They are *NOT* sitting around, drinking coffee, and laughing at the posts here. They were working their butts off dealing with real engineering problems. I am an EE but not in their class (at least not with RF) and some of the bugs had them scratching their heads. They want to ship but if it isn't quite working right, what should they do? Ship anyway? They know what the problem is but the cure is in the fiddlin' details and I can assure you, I watched them methodically tracking down each little fiddlin' detail. In good faith Flex has published their target dates. Then the bugs cropped up. They are squashing them one-by-one. You (everyone) will get your radio as soon as the last bug is crushed. Give the guys a chance! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.916.367.2131 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
I am really not sure how asking for an update gets repeatedly translated into ship me something ready or not ... -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Brian Lloyd Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:41 AM To: wa5...@aol.com Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, wa5...@aol.com wrote: How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Yup! I was just there last week. They were all there burning the midnight oil on the F1500 and the VU module. They are *NOT* sitting around, drinking coffee, and laughing at the posts here. They were working their butts off dealing with real engineering problems. I am an EE but not in their class (at least not with RF) and some of the bugs had them scratching their heads. They want to ship but if it isn't quite working right, what should they do? Ship anyway? They know what the problem is but the cure is in the fiddlin' details and I can assure you, I watched them methodically tracking down each little fiddlin' detail. In good faith Flex has published their target dates. Then the bugs cropped up. They are squashing them one-by-one. You (everyone) will get your radio as soon as the last bug is crushed. Give the guys a chance! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.916.367.2131 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
i have no problem waiting. 73 paul w8jn On Wed Jun 16th, 2010 7:41 AM EDT Brian Lloyd wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, wa5...@aol.com wrote: How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Yup! I was just there last week. They were all there burning the midnight oil on the F1500 and the VU module. They are *NOT* sitting around, drinking coffee, and laughing at the posts here. They were working their butts off dealing with real engineering problems. I am an EE but not in their class (at least not with RF) and some of the bugs had them scratching their heads. They want to ship but if it isn't quite working right, what should they do? Ship anyway? They know what the problem is but the cure is in the fiddlin' details and I can assure you, I watched them methodically tracking down each little fiddlin' detail. In good faith Flex has published their target dates. Then the bugs cropped up. They are squashing them one-by-one. You (everyone) will get your radio as soon as the last bug is crushed. Give the guys a chance! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.916.367.2131 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
Hi Kevin I don't think these voices of support are directed towards you in any way. You asked the question many of us want to ask but are not so the boys can get on with it. But we still want to know! We got a note from Gerald indicating they were alive, well and burning the midnight oil. Thats the best we can get right now. 73 Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:14 AM, paul glassman highschooldiv...@yahoo.comwrote: i have no problem waiting. 73 paul w8jn On Wed Jun 16th, 2010 7:41 AM EDT Brian Lloyd wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, wa5...@aol.com wrote: How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Yup! I was just there last week. They were all there burning the midnight oil on the F1500 and the VU module. They are *NOT* sitting around, drinking coffee, and laughing at the posts here. They were working their butts off dealing with real engineering problems. I am an EE but not in their class (at least not with RF) and some of the bugs had them scratching their heads. They want to ship but if it isn't quite working right, what should they do? Ship anyway? They know what the problem is but the cure is in the fiddlin' details and I can assure you, I watched them methodically tracking down each little fiddlin' detail. In good faith Flex has published their target dates. Then the bugs cropped up. They are squashing them one-by-one. You (everyone) will get your radio as soon as the last bug is crushed. Give the guys a chance! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.916.367.2131 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
I agree ... I am not even complaining ... just offering some points of view -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 10:20 AM To: paul glassman Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY Hi Kevin I don't think these voices of support are directed towards you in any way. You asked the question many of us want to ask but are not so the boys can get on with it. But we still want to know! We got a note from Gerald indicating they were alive, well and burning the midnight oil. Thats the best we can get right now. 73 Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 8:14 AM, paul glassman highschooldiv...@yahoo.comwrote: i have no problem waiting. 73 paul w8jn On Wed Jun 16th, 2010 7:41 AM EDT Brian Lloyd wrote: On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 2:34 AM, wa5...@aol.com wrote: How many of you have been to their Austin, Texas offices?? Having been there personally, I can tell you it is an underwhelming experience.? It AIN'T FANCY.? Waddyreckon it's because they're devoted to making -?no -?EVOLVING - cutting edge radios while employed by an entreprenuer trying to?cover the next payroll?? Yup! I was just there last week. They were all there burning the midnight oil on the F1500 and the VU module. They are *NOT* sitting around, drinking coffee, and laughing at the posts here. They were working their butts off dealing with real engineering problems. I am an EE but not in their class (at least not with RF) and some of the bugs had them scratching their heads. They want to ship but if it isn't quite working right, what should they do? Ship anyway? They know what the problem is but the cure is in the fiddlin' details and I can assure you, I watched them methodically tracking down each little fiddlin' detail. In good faith Flex has published their target dates. Then the bugs cropped up. They are squashing them one-by-one. You (everyone) will get your radio as soon as the last bug is crushed. Give the guys a chance! -- Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL 3191 Western Dr. Cameron Park, CA 95682 br...@lloyd.com +1.916.367.2131 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/16/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update? INTEGRITY
At any OTHER mfg can you get similar access to anyone who actually, sincerely, gives a big fuzzy about your concerns? I will take honest errors in forecast dates over the usual BS we would get elsewhere. Flex is made in USA and I have NEVER had any interaction with ANY of their personnel, including Gerald, which was in any way less than positive. Maybe Flex is hearing these complaints because they DO listen! 73 from a loyal customer: Jim McLester W4YXU ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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You know I can understand someone being miffed at how long a preorder takes if they were actually charged for the merchandise at the time of preorder but Flex doesn't do that. Common sense would tell you that they are just as anxious to get the radio to you as you are to have it. All those preorders are money in limbo for them. You guys are lucky you don't also have model railroading as a hobby. Preordering models is the norm there. Most are limited runs so if you don't preorder, you don't get one and sometimes it takes over a year or more before you finally see the merchandise. Oh, and if enough folks don't preorder, they simply don't make the model. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 6/15/2010 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2941 - Release Date: 06/16/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Yes, Michael, and you can add astronomy to model railroading! If you want a large mirror you will order and pay for it and then it might take more than a year for something to appear on the doorstep! And I am ashamed to admit that some of these complainers are almost as old as I am. In otherwords, old enough to know better. But then, perhaps I am expecting too much. It certainly isn't hard to find someone with twenty or thirty years of experience---one year repeated twenty or thirty times! 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Michael Tondee mat...@netcommander.com To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? You know I can understand someone being miffed at how long a preorder takes if they were actually charged for the merchandise at the time of preorder but Flex doesn't do that. Common sense would tell you that they are just as anxious to get the radio to you as you are to have it. All those preorders are money in limbo for them. You guys are lucky you don't also have model railroading as a hobby. Preordering models is the norm there. Most are limited runs so if you don't preorder, you don't get one and sometimes it takes over a year or more before you finally see the merchandise. Oh, and if enough folks don't preorder, they simply don't make the model. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 6/15/2010 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo
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You want to experience the epitome in world-class lousy service? Buy something from SteppIR. Been there done that three times. No need to go into model railroading or astronomy to get some of that. Frank N1UW -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Michael Tondee Sent: Wednesday, June 16, 2010 3:22 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? You know I can understand someone being miffed at how long a preorder takes if they were actually charged for the merchandise at the time of preorder but Flex doesn't do that. Common sense would tell you that they are just as anxious to get the radio to you as you are to have it. All those preorders are money in limbo for them. You guys are lucky you don't also have model railroading as a hobby. Preordering models is the norm there. Most are limited runs so if you don't preorder, you don't get one and sometimes it takes over a year or more before you finally see the merchandise. Oh, and if enough folks don't preorder, they simply don't make the model. 73, Michael, W4HIJ On 6/15/2010 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus
Re: [Flexradio] update?
FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Hi Kevin You must have missed the exchanges a couple of weeks ago with a few users proclaiming loss of faith (and worse) at the plans that Gerald would frequently make to the user community. He has gotten bitten several times by these few and after while I am sure decided that advance information, even caveated with the usual disclaimers abt stuff happens was not valuable to the user community nor their reputation. This is a classic case of be careful what you ask for. You might get it! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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There are two extremes 1. Giving a date you cannot achieve for shipping 2. Telling the customer it will be ready when its ready Kevin you are correct Flex is being arrogant. People will understand if you give a date and miss it as long as you attach an explanation for it. But saying it is ready when its ready is a non starter. It appears they are busting their butts to get it done therefore give a tenative date they hope to make is best --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: From: Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? To: 'Tim Ellison' telli...@itsco.com, 'paul glassman' highschooldiv...@yahoo.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:22 PM Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Kevin, We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Your place in the queue is determined by the date of your pre-order. Many people feel that being in the pre-order queue has value, given that the radios have to be scheduled into our office over time for the upgrade. I will give you the best information I have at the moment. As of this afternoon, we are now very pleased with the performance numbers we are getting on both VHF and UHF with the early in-house production units. Over the next week, we will start bringing in the first few radios for retrofit and testing. If all goes smoothly with the early early upgrades, we will release manufacturing to build the first large production run, which we expect will take roughly four weeks give or take. We will then start scheduling the queue at a rate that will allow for a reasonable turn around time in the factory. Thanks for your patience. Regards, Gerald Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR President and CEO FlexRadio Systems(TM) 13091 Pond Springs Road, #250 Austin, TX 78729 Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 202 Email: ger...@flex-radio.com Web: www.flex-radio.com Tune In Excitement (TM) PowerSDR(TM) is a trademark of FlexRadio Systems On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz
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Being involved in commercial products with a substantial software component I can see Flex's new position to be hesitant to keep estimating ship dates. planned, approximately, etc. quickly become dates cast in stone in the customer's mind. Often times it's only after a key issue is resolved that another will rear its ugly head. Issues related to the Flex 1500 USB driver have been cited as one of the show stoppers. Perhaps as the release gets closer a list of critical issues that must be resolved before boxes go out the door could be listed. 73, Tim N9PUZ (In the queue for a Flex 1500) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Well if you look at it from a different point of view, my 5K works great with the present release code, and when 2.0 comes out. I'll give it a few weeks and wait for 2.01 so I don't have to deal with any bugs or issues, software is complex and a programmer is always going to miss something, and I'll let all of the early jumpers b!tch and complain about any issues, while I'm smiling and operating. I'm also the same person, that never does an operating system upgrade until a dozen or so of my co-workers already have gone through it, found all of the bugs, fixes and hot patches figured out and I work in the IT world. But I don't have any issues on my systems, I never have to stay up till 2 in the morning trying to get something to work, and my blood pressure never has to raise due to software. Well I hope I didn't scare off any of those that like to jump on the band wagon, and lead the way, I need all of your input so I don't have to go through the same issues you had to. Well, 73's and like a good bottle of wine, when it's ready, it's ready, Mike KE7WRJ HL9QST --- k1...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Burt k1...@yahoo.com To: 'Tim Ellison' telli...@itsco.com, 'paul glassman' highschooldiv...@yahoo.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 19:19:49 -0700 (PDT) There are two extremes 1. Giving a date you cannot achieve for shipping 2. Telling the customer it will be ready when its ready Kevin you are correct Flex is being arrogant. People will understand if you give a date and miss it as long as you attach an explanation for it. But saying it is ready when its ready is a non starter. It appears they are busting their butts to get it done therefore give a tenative date they hope to make is best --- On Tue, 6/15/10, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: From: Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? To: 'Tim Ellison' telli...@itsco.com, 'paul glassman' highschooldiv...@yahoo.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2010, 9:22 PM Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman
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There should be a point in every software project where all show-stopper risks have been identified and resolved (including new risks discovered in the process of resolving known risks). Forecasting delivery dates before reaching this milestone is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time, and pisses off the pig. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of Tim N9PUZ Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:38 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Being involved in commercial products with a substantial software component I can see Flex's new position to be hesitant to keep estimating ship dates. planned, approximately, etc. quickly become dates cast in stone in the customer's mind. Often times it's only after a key issue is resolved that another will rear its ugly head. Issues related to the Flex 1500 USB driver have been cited as one of the show stoppers. Perhaps as the release gets closer a list of critical issues that must be resolved before boxes go out the door could be listed. 73, Tim N9PUZ (In the queue for a Flex 1500) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2937 - Release Date: 06/15/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Dave, You do have a point, but I spent over 10 years at Cisco Systems, you know the guys who's equipment and software pretty much run the internet backbone. In the 10 years I was at Cisco, we never had a DUE date,,, When the new equipment or software was right, it would be release. People should be glad that companies like Cisco, Juniper, HP, BBN, Lucent, Nortel and others only release software when the engineering team, thinks it correct, sure there are a few bugs after the release, but just think what your internet access would be like, if they release code on a date, when people wanted it... 73's, Mike KE7WRJ HL9QST --- aa...@ambersoft.com wrote: From: Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com To: Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:54:46 -0400 There should be a point in every software project where all show-stopper risks have been identified and resolved (including new risks discovered in the process of resolving known risks). Forecasting delivery dates before reaching this milestone is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time, and pisses off the pig. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of Tim N9PUZ Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:38 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Being involved in commercial products with a substantial software component I can see Flex's new position to be hesitant to keep estimating ship dates. planned, approximately, etc. quickly become dates cast in stone in the customer's mind. Often times it's only after a key issue is resolved that another will rear its ugly head. Issues related to the Flex 1500 USB driver have been cited as one of the show stoppers. Perhaps as the release gets closer a list of critical issues that must be resolved before boxes go out the door could be listed. 73, Tim N9PUZ (In the queue for a Flex 1500) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2937 - Release Date: 06/15/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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And I once heard that the best software programmer is an engineer ... there won't be many bells or whistles, no fancy graphics, just some code that mostly works ... but on the bright side it is good enough a lot sooner. Haha -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Dave AA6YQ Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:55 PM To: Tim N9PUZ; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? There should be a point in every software project where all show-stopper risks have been identified and resolved (including new risks discovered in the process of resolving known risks). Forecasting delivery dates before reaching this milestone is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time, and pisses off the pig. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of Tim N9PUZ Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:38 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Being involved in commercial products with a substantial software component I can see Flex's new position to be hesitant to keep estimating ship dates. planned, approximately, etc. quickly become dates cast in stone in the customer's mind. Often times it's only after a key issue is resolved that another will rear its ugly head. Issues related to the Flex 1500 USB driver have been cited as one of the show stoppers. Perhaps as the release gets closer a list of critical issues that must be resolved before boxes go out the door could be listed. 73, Tim N9PUZ (In the queue for a Flex 1500) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2937 - Release Date: 06/15/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.829 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2940 - Release Date: 06/15/10 14:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Thanks Gerald . that wasn't so hard . you could almost run for politics now . you said a lot without really saying anything and I bet people are mostly happy to at least have been informed about the progress. We are all trying to be on the same team. Thank you. From: Gerald Youngblood [mailto:ger...@flex-radio.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:38 PM To: Kevin Hobbs Cc: Tim Ellison; paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Kevin, We are damned if we do and damned if we don't. Your place in the queue is determined by the date of your pre-order. Many people feel that being in the pre-order queue has value, given that the radios have to be scheduled into our office over time for the upgrade. I will give you the best information I have at the moment. As of this afternoon, we are now very pleased with the performance numbers we are getting on both VHF and UHF with the early in-house production units. Over the next week, we will start bringing in the first few radios for retrofit and testing. If all goes smoothly with the early early upgrades, we will release manufacturing to build the first large production run, which we expect will take roughly four weeks give or take. We will then start scheduling the queue at a rate that will allow for a reasonable turn around time in the factory. Thanks for your patience. Regards, Gerald Gerald Youngblood, K5SDR President and CEO FlexRadio Systems(TM) 13091 Pond Springs Road, #250 Austin, TX 78729 Phone: 512-535-4713 Ext. 202 Email: ger...@flex-radio.com Web: www.flex-radio.com Tune In Excitement (TM) PowerSDR(TM) is a trademark of FlexRadio Systems On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http
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My advice is to refrain from forecasting a delivery date until all show-stopper risks have been eliminated. In my experience (22 years leading Rational Software's Product Group and engaging with its customers, which included Cisco and nearly every other company you mention below), the probability of not being able to achieve such a forecast is low, because the remaining work should be highly predictable. However, should an unresolved risk be discovered after the team makes a delivery commitment, then delivery should be delayed until the product meets the release criteria. Then team should determine why it missed that risk and what it will due to prevent a repetition. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: mcha...@theriver.com [mailto:mcha...@theriver.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 11:08 PM To: Dave AA6YQ Cc: tim.n9...@gmail.com; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Dave, You do have a point, but I spent over 10 years at Cisco Systems, you know the guys who's equipment and software pretty much run the internet backbone. In the 10 years I was at Cisco, we never had a DUE date,,, When the new equipment or software was right, it would be release. People should be glad that companies like Cisco, Juniper, HP, BBN, Lucent, Nortel and others only release software when the engineering team, thinks it correct, sure there are a few bugs after the release, but just think what your internet access would be like, if they release code on a date, when people wanted it... 73's, Mike KE7WRJ HL9QST --- aa...@ambersoft.com wrote: From: Dave AA6YQ aa...@ambersoft.com To: Tim N9PUZ tim.n9...@gmail.com, flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2010 22:54:46 -0400 There should be a point in every software project where all show-stopper risks have been identified and resolved (including new risks discovered in the process of resolving known risks). Forecasting delivery dates before reaching this milestone is like trying to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time, and pisses off the pig. 73, Dave, AA6YQ -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz]on Behalf Of Tim N9PUZ Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 10:38 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Being involved in commercial products with a substantial software component I can see Flex's new position to be hesitant to keep estimating ship dates. planned, approximately, etc. quickly become dates cast in stone in the customer's mind. Often times it's only after a key issue is resolved that another will rear its ugly head. Issues related to the Flex 1500 USB driver have been cited as one of the show stoppers. Perhaps as the release gets closer a list of critical issues that must be resolved before boxes go out the door could be listed. 73, Tim N9PUZ (In the queue for a Flex 1500) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2937 - Release Date: 06/15/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.730 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2937 - Release Date: 06/15/10 02:35:00 ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] update?
Hi Neal I am not sure what I missed lately . Some good examples: Yaesu leaks FT-5000 mysterious images one month . a month or so later users have radios. Apple leaks Iphone 4G . it kills sales of iphone 3G as everyone waits . so 4G better get released quick for Apples sake. Judging by Gerald's latest VU progress report . now probably would have been the right time to announce a VU module and start taking preorders . sure hindsight is 20/20. All I know is that lack of good honest communication with one's customers almost always leads them to quickly becoming someone else's customer. KH From: Neal Campbell [mailto:nealk...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 9:54 PM To: Kevin Hobbs Cc: Tim Ellison; paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? Hi Kevin You must have missed the exchanges a couple of weeks ago with a few users proclaiming loss of faith (and worse) at the plans that Gerald would frequently make to the user community. He has gotten bitten several times by these few and after while I am sure decided that advance information, even caveated with the usual disclaimers abt stuff happens was not valuable to the user community nor their reputation. This is a classic case of be careful what you ask for. You might get it! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software www.abrohamnealsoftware.com (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER Amateur Radio: K3NC Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/ DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Hobbs ve...@cogeco.ca wrote: Tim ... I know this is the company line now ... BUT It is kind of difficult to NOT make forward looking statements while asking your potential customers to PREORDER. Ie: there was a V/U product announcement with lots of details and I got an order confirmation on Oct 29 last year stating I would get an email as soon as it shipped ... that led me to believe that it wouldn't take too long. So let's be reasonable ... if you want pre-orders, isn't it fair that you at least tell people something ...especially if they have been PREORDERED for nearly 8 months? Telling customers that it'll be ready when its ready seems not only a little bit arrogant, but could possibly hurt Flex's Reputation and Sales. I don't think anybody wants you to compromise quality ... we would simply like some factual progress reports. I worked in the custom automation business for years ... and I know stuff happens ... but if I told any of my customers it'll be ready when its ready there would have lots of fireworks. So while I do understand Flex's point of view ... I hope Flex understands their Customers(emphasis on the customers) point of view. Kevin -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Tim Ellison Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 8:43 PM To: paul glassman; flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update? FlexRadio has stopped making forward looking announcements related to ship dates for hardware and software products, so you are not going to hear anything until products are actually shipping. When the FLEX-VU5K and the FLEX-1500 become fully available, there will be PLENTY of announcements on the reflectors, web site and you will get a personal notification or a shipping notice from FlexRadio when your order ships or is ready for integration. They will be shouting this from the rooftops too :-) I know for a fact that every bit of energy is being applied by the engineering and software development teams in resolving the gating issues for delivery of PowerSDR v2, the FLEX-1500 and the FLEX-VU5K. They are working as hard and as fast as they can, but they are not going to sacrifice quality for a rushed delivery. -Tim -Original Message- From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of paul glassman Sent: Tuesday, June 15, 2010 7:50 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update? Dudley, Anybody?? hihi Is there an update when we will be shipping back to the factory for the 2 mtr 70 cnt install Best 73 Paul w8jn ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ No virus found in this incoming
Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi
Just a quick note to report on my activities at the ARRL. At 1800 UTC I was joined at W1AW by about 15 employees of the ARRL, including Dave Summer. I officially handed over a FLEX-5000 (an upgraded beta unit) for use at their station. Following the official presentation, I spent about 90 minutes demonstrating the radio and discussing the world of software defined radio. I was then invited to take a tour of the ARRL complex, which was very interesting. I returned to the station at 2000hrs UTC to begin operating ( a hour later than promised). I experienced high SWR problems, which turned out to be a bad coax cable run from the antenna box to the F5K operating position. I began operating as soon as the problem was repaired but had to cease operation at 2047 UTC so that the regular broadcast could begin. I worked about 50 stations in about 30 minutes despite terrible band conditions. The F5K performed flawlessly and was fun to use with their monster antenna system. I worked several FLEXERS but Dudley, WA5QPZ had, by a large measure, the strongest signal of any station worked. The 5000 is now a permanent part of W1AW/ARRL and available to anyone to use when visiting there. I recommend a visit to the ARRL-it's like a Smithsonian museum for amateur radio. 73 John P. Basilotto W5GI VP Amateur Division (NA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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UHMMM, wonder what beta upgrades are included in this 5K? Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flex Radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi Just a quick note to report on my activities at the ARRL. At 1800 UTC I was joined at W1AW by about 15 employees of the ARRL, including Dave Summer. I officially handed over a FLEX-5000 (an upgraded beta unit) for use at their station. Following the official presentation, I spent about 90 minutes demonstrating the radio and discussing the world of software defined radio. I was then invited to take a tour of the ARRL complex, which was very interesting. I returned to the station at 2000hrs UTC to begin operating ( a hour later than promised). I experienced high SWR problems, which turned out to be a bad coax cable run from the antenna box to the F5K operating position. I began operating as soon as the problem was repaired but had to cease operation at 2047 UTC so that the regular broadcast could begin. I worked about 50 stations in about 30 minutes despite terrible band conditions. The F5K performed flawlessly and was fun to use with their monster antenna system. I worked several FLEXERS but Dudley, WA5QPZ had, by a large measure, the strongest signal of any station worked. The 5000 is now a permanent part of W1AW/ARRL and available to anyone to use when visiting there. I recommend a visit to the ARRL-it's like a Smithsonian museum for amateur radio. 73 John P. Basilotto W5GI VP Amateur Division (NA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi
I was more concerned over John's latest promotion the Vice President of the Amateur Division! I would imagine he is on the short list of any number of Obama staff positions. I would hate to lose him! 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Jim Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Flex Radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi UHMMM, wonder what beta upgrades are included in this 5K? Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flex Radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi Just a quick note to report on my activities at the ARRL. At 1800 UTC I was joined at W1AW by about 15 employees of the ARRL, including Dave Summer. I officially handed over a FLEX-5000 (an upgraded beta unit) for use at their station. Following the official presentation, I spent about 90 minutes demonstrating the radio and discussing the world of software defined radio. I was then invited to take a tour of the ARRL complex, which was very interesting. I returned to the station at 2000hrs UTC to begin operating ( a hour later than promised). I experienced high SWR problems, which turned out to be a bad coax cable run from the antenna box to the F5K operating position. I began operating as soon as the problem was repaired but had to cease operation at 2047 UTC so that the regular broadcast could begin. I worked about 50 stations in about 30 minutes despite terrible band conditions. The F5K performed flawlessly and was fun to use with their monster antenna system. I worked several FLEXERS but Dudley, WA5QPZ had, by a large measure, the strongest signal of any station worked. The 5000 is now a permanent part of W1AW/ARRL and available to anyone to use when visiting there. I recommend a visit to the ARRL-it's like a Smithsonian museum for amateur radio. 73 John P. Basilotto W5GI VP Amateur Division (NA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi
The best way to keep him is to BUY MORE FLEX RADIOS! Neal Campbell Abroham Neal Software Programming Services for Windows, OS X and Linux (540) 242 0911 - Try Spot for OS X, the intelligent DXCluster Client at www.abrohamnealsoftware.com - $15.99 - For a great dog book, visit www.abrohamneal.com - See the FlexRadio Systems Flex-5000a in action at www.flex-videos.com On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 11:21 AM, Lee Mushel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was more concerned over John's latest promotion the Vice President of the Amateur Division! I would imagine he is on the short list of any number of Obama staff positions. I would hate to lose him! 73 Lee K9WRU - Original Message - From: Jim Cox [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Flex Radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:40 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi UHMMM, wonder what beta upgrades are included in this 5K? Jim K4JAF - Original Message - From: John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Flex Radio' FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz Sent: Tuesday, December 09, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Update from W1aw/W5gi Just a quick note to report on my activities at the ARRL. At 1800 UTC I was joined at W1AW by about 15 employees of the ARRL, including Dave Summer. I officially handed over a FLEX-5000 (an upgraded beta unit) for use at their station. Following the official presentation, I spent about 90 minutes demonstrating the radio and discussing the world of software defined radio. I was then invited to take a tour of the ARRL complex, which was very interesting. I returned to the station at 2000hrs UTC to begin operating ( a hour later than promised). I experienced high SWR problems, which turned out to be a bad coax cable run from the antenna box to the F5K operating position. I began operating as soon as the problem was repaired but had to cease operation at 2047 UTC so that the regular broadcast could begin. I worked about 50 stations in about 30 minutes despite terrible band conditions. The F5K performed flawlessly and was fun to use with their monster antenna system. I worked several FLEXERS but Dudley, WA5QPZ had, by a large measure, the strongest signal of any station worked. The 5000 is now a permanent part of W1AW/ARRL and available to anyone to use when visiting there. I recommend a visit to the ARRL-it's like a Smithsonian museum for amateur radio. 73 John P. Basilotto W5GI VP Amateur Division (NA) ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/ ___ FlexRadio Systems Mailing List FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/flexradio%40flex-radio.biz/ Knowledge Base: http://kc.flex-radio.com/ Homepage: http://www.flex-radio.com/
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Hi Bob, Could you and Eric describe which routines have changed between Pr15 and this latest build (i.e. the routines within display.cs, setup.cs, etc.) to support and display the higher sample rates? I've been modifying my Preview 15 code for other reasons, and Id'd like to roll your and Eric's mods into the routines that I've already modified. Thanks! - Jeff, WA6AHL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Robert McGwier Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 7:00 PM To: FlexRadio Subject: [Flexradio] Update If you can download from svn and build, please do so and test the 96000 and 192000 sample support IF you card can support it. It does not yet check to see if you card is good to go on those rates. Eric had not made clear that he had modified and cleaned up display.cs as much as he has. It was a four line change to display.cs and a two line addition to setup.cs and a fix to the (never before tested) change of rates control. Bob -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged!
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Fine Biz Bob Beautiful display at 96 kHz. Wish I had had it during the ARRL CW. 73 de Jerry NO2T At 10:00 PM 2/26/2006 -0500, you wrote: If you can download from svn and build, please do so and test the 96000 and 192000 sample support IF you card can support it. It does not yet check to see if you card is good to go on those rates. Eric had not made clear that he had modified and cleaned up display.cs as much as he has. It was a four line change to display.cs and a two line addition to setup.cs and a fix to the (never before tested) change of rates control. Bob -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged!
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Very nice, Bob, at 96000 at least. No difference I can see with the delta44 except twice the panadaptor width and half the width on the signals. Great to see +- 20 kHz. Now I need a sound card that will do the 192000. Is that gonna be the firebox talked about here? Richard, W5SXD Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (02/26/2006 21:00) If you can download from svn and build, please do so and test the 96000 and 192000 sample support IF you card can support it. It does not yet check to see if you card is good to go on those rates. Eric had not made clear that he had modified and cleaned up display.cs as much as he has. It was a four line change to display.cs and a two line addition to setup.cs and a fix to the (never before tested) change of rates control. Bob -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged!
Re: [Flexradio] Update
According to the web site, the presonus firebox is capable of 96 kHz. The 192000 here is done with my Lynx. The issue with the offerings I can see that do 192000 is two gazintas, two gazoutas. You could do 2 Audiophile 192's and gang them in M-Audio Audiophile 192 control panel I THINK so don't jump yet. Bob richard allen wrote: Very nice, Bob, at 96000 at least. No difference I can see with the delta44 except twice the panadaptor width and half the width on the signals. Great to see +- 20 kHz. Now I need a sound card that will do the 192000. Is that gonna be the firebox talked about here? Richard, W5SXD Robert McGwier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: (02/26/2006 21:00) If you can download from svn and build, please do so and test the 96000 and 192000 sample support IF you card can support it. It does not yet check to see if you card is good to go on those rates. Eric had not made clear that he had modified and cleaned up display.cs as much as he has. It was a four line change to display.cs and a two line addition to setup.cs and a fix to the (never before tested) change of rates control. Bob -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged! -- AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats, NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman Laziness is the number one inspiration for ingenuity. Guilty as charged!
Re: [Flexradio] update to .net
Just in case there may be still some confusion, Microsoft is offering the Express Editions for free. They are not time limited - they will run forever.see http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/11/07/489897.aspxPhil N8VBOn 11/10/05, Sami Aintila [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Larry, Not everyone is on the instant Microsoft upgrade wagon, particularly hams. You can say that again. I use Visual C++ 6.0 (circa 1998) for all myWindows development. And for the kind of work I do, I don't feel anyreal need to upgrade. But I certainly wouldn't expect or recommend anyone who wants to start programming modern Windows applications toget VC6 just because I'm happy with it.Now, for the first time, you can get free (as in beer) Visual StudioExpress Editions. Making PowerSDR compatible with these tools will probably enable a much larger group of people than ever before tostart experimenting with the source code. But maybe we can't havethat, because someone likes (or at least has paid for) his earlierversion of Visual Studio. Of course, changes required to PowerSDR source between .NET 1.1 and2.0 are trivial, as Phil already pointed out, and probably even thebeginning programmer can learn how to make them. But having to do that with every new version that comes out is simply a nuisance.OK, maybe we can have it both ways. Let the official PowerSDR binaryrelease remain .NET 1.1, but simply modify the source to make itcompatible with the Visual Studio 2005 Express tools as well. But those modifications really have to be in the official PowerSDR sourcecode instead of everyone having to make them on their own.It will probably require nothing more complex than a couple of#ifdef's, but I'll let someone more knowledgeable in .NET (Phil?) comment on this.73, Sami OH2BFO___FlexRadio mailing listFlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz-- Philip A Covingtonhttp://www.philcovington.com
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A. Got it. I should have realized that as the implications of the upcasting would have been pretty large. Thanks for the clarification. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: Philip Covington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 12:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Sami Aintila; FlexRadio Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Actually, the difference comes from the fact that in .NET 1.1 the System.Math.Floor() had only one function prototype: System.Math.Floor(double). In .NET 2.0 there are now two prototypes: System.Math.Floor(double) and System.Math.Floor (decimal). In .NET 1.1 all other types were automatically converted to double for the Floor function. In .NET 2.0 the compiler does not know what conversion to do on its own since there are now two possibilities. Sorry, I wasn't clear in my last message about this... the decimal type itself is not new, but the decimal type is new for .NET 2.0's Floor function. 73 de Phil N8VB On 11/10/05, Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Phil, I have made the changes to the source for Preview 5. It is interesting that this cast is required though. The decimal type is present in v1.1, but I guess the rules about automatic casting have changed. It looks like in v2.0 when you use 2 doubles, it possibly upcasts to a decimal. In v1.1, it would just use a double. Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Philip Covington Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 11:22 AM To: Sami Aintila Cc: FlexRadio Reflector Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net A really simple change is all that is required. To compile PowerSDR console with either .NET 1.1 or .NET 2.0 this simple change would have to be made to: Lines: 12147 12221 12301 12435 12510 12591 12710 12753 12802 the change is: original code: ...(int)Math.Floor((spectrum_grid_max -num)... .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 code: ...(int)Math.Floor((double)(spectrum_grid_max -num)... Note the cast to double to unconfuse the compiler about whether Math.Floor is dealing with a double type or a decimal (new in .NET 2.0) type. By making this change to the current source code, PowerSDR console with compile with both VS 2003/.NET1.1 or VS 2005/.NET2.0 (and Express). Phil N8VB -- Philip A Covington http://www.philcovington.com
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Eric, For your information, I downloaded .NET 2.0 and have it installed. So far the SDR is working fine. For the group I do have a question. Does anyone know if I can have Visual Studio 2003 in my computer and also download C# 2005 express and use either program without creating a problem? Jerry WK0J - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio To: 'Philip Covington' ; 'FlexRadio Reflector' Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Good to know Phil. My only reason for commenting was that a customer a while back downloaded a beta version of .NET 2.0 and ended up reformatting his computer in order to get things back to the way they were before he loaded it. J Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message-From: Philip Covington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio ReflectorSubject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Eric,There is no conflict with having .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 on the same machine. The Assembly contains the data about which version to use (that was part of the idea of having metadata in the assemblies). Also, since PowerSDR is compiled against .NET 1.1 it won't automatically use .NET 2.0. As a matter of fact VS 2003 won't compile for .NET 2.0 unless some things are changed. You would have to use VS 2005.I have .NET 1.1, .NET 2.0, and Mono installed without conflict. Phil N8VB On 11/9/05, Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would strongly recommend that PowerSDR users do not upgrade to v2.0 until we have verified that either our current version or an upcoming version works is compatible with the new version (unless you are comfortable with the process of getting back to v1.1). I don't know how hard it is to uninstall, but my experience with uninstalling these sorts of things from MS is not good. ;) Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tomSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:41 PMTo: flexradio@flex-radio.bizSubject: [Flexradio] update to .net Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 out as xp update. ___FlexRadio mailing listFlexRadio@flex-radio.bizhttp://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz -- Philip A Covingtonhttp://www.philcovington.com ___FlexRadio mailing listFlexRadio@flex-radio.bizhttp://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz
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Thanks for the link, my cable modem will be busy tonight. I now have the Beta version installed and have been playing a little with your SharpDSP code. The MS C# IDE is a bit on the slow side so you need a very fast machine, but using the SharpDevelop IDE is way faster. http://www.icsharpcode.net/OpenSource/SD/ On the issue of upgrading, that can be a sore issue with many, specially if you don't use is on a daily basis. I've been using Delphi 7 for many years and have not upgraded, because I have not needed it, I'm comfortable with it as it is, it does the job for me. Myself, since I'm not familiar with .NET, and if I must learn one, it might as well be the new one. Right now I'm trying to figure out if I need a change in my software development platform, I'm very comfortable with the Borland/Delphi IDE, the 2006 edition includes Delphi, C++, and C# under one IDE, that is very tempting since I really like their IDE vs the MS model. Maybe I have not figured something out about the MS IDE model, but in Delphi changing the visual aspects of a project is so simple, and wiring code to different events is very simple, such as dropping something on a button or box, dragging, etc. It's all built in and the procedure code is written for you. With MS it is more of a struggle, and apparently I'm not the only one that thinks so, I see comments from persons on the FlexSDR team commenting about the difficulties of adding more buttons to the IDE, and how they will have to rewrite the code. In Borland/Delphi environment that is something that you just don't even worry about. I'm in no big hurry, I'm hopping that Alex will release the code to the Rocky software. Then there no decision to make, just upgrade Delphi and keep on trucking. In the meantime I keep playing with C# and SharpDevelop. Free software is good, specially if you don't have anything,but learning a new set of libraries is awful, and Microsoft has a nasty habit of changing all the API's and libraries every couple of years, I'm getting too old and set in my ways. Enough ranting, may the farce be with you. At 10:33 AM 11/10/2005, you wrote: Just in case there may be still some confusion, Microsoft is offering the Express Editions for free. They are not time limited - they will run forever. see http://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/11/07/489897.aspxhttp://blogs.msdn.com/danielfe/archive/2005/11/07/489897.aspx Phil N8VB SNIP Not everyone is on the instant Microsoft upgrade wagon, particularly hams. -- Philip A Covington http://www.philcovington.comhttp://www.philcovington.com ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Cecil Bayona KD5NWA www.qrpradio.com I fail to see why doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results every time is insanity: I've almost proved it isn't; only a few more tests now and I'm sure results will differ this time ...
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Great, thanks Phil Jerry WK0J - Original Message - From: Philip Covington To: Jerald Jones Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; FlexRadio Reflector Sent: Thursday, November 10, 2005 2:04 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Jerry,You can have VS 6, VS 2002, VS 2003, and VS 2005 as well as Express editions on the same computer with no conflict.73 de Phil N8VB On 11/10/05, Jerald Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Eric, For your information, I downloaded .NET 2.0 and have it installed. So far the SDR is working fine. For the group I do have a question. Does anyone know if I can have Visual Studio 2003 in my computer and also download C# 2005 express and use either program without creating a problem? Jerry WK0J - Original Message - From: Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio To: 'Philip Covington' ; 'FlexRadio Reflector' Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Good to know Phil. My only reason for commenting was that a customer a while back downloaded a beta version of .NET 2.0 and ended up reformatting his computer in order to get things back to the way they were before he loaded it. J Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message-From: Philip Covington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:16 PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; FlexRadio ReflectorSubject: Re: [Flexradio] update to .net Eric,There is no conflict with having .NET 1.1 and .NET 2.0 on the same machine. The Assembly contains the data about which version to use (that was part of the idea of having metadata in the assemblies). Also, since PowerSDR is compiled against .NET 1.1 it won't automatically use .NET 2.0. As a matter of fact VS 2003 won't compile for .NET 2.0 unless some things are changed. You would have to use VS 2005.I have .NET 1.1, .NET 2.0, and Mono installed without conflict. Phil N8VB On 11/9/05, Eric Wachsmann - FlexRadio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would strongly recommend that PowerSDR users do not upgrade to v2.0 until we have verified that either our current version or an upcoming version works is compatible with the new version (unless you are comfortable with the process of getting back to v1.1). I don't know how hard it is to uninstall, but my experience with uninstalling these sorts of things from MS is not good. ;) Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tomSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:41 PMTo: flexradio@flex-radio.bizSubject: [Flexradio] update to .net Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 out as xp update. ___FlexRadio mailing listFlexRadio@flex-radio.bizhttp://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz -- Philip A Covingtonhttp://www.philcovington.com ___FlexRadio mailing listFlexRadio@flex-radio.bizhttp://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz -- Philip A Covingtonhttp://www.philcovington.com
Re: [Flexradio] update to .net
Of course, changes required to PowerSDR source between .NET 1.1 and 2.0 are trivial, as Phil already pointed out, and probably even the beginning programmer can learn how to make them. But having to do that with every new version that comes out is simply a nuisance. OK, maybe we can have it both ways. Let the official PowerSDR binary release remain .NET 1.1, but simply modify the source to make it compatible with the Visual Studio 2005 Express tools as well. But those modifications really have to be in the official PowerSDR source code instead of everyone having to make them on their own. It will probably require nothing more complex than a couple of #ifdef's, but I'll let someone more knowledgeable in .NET (Phil?) comment on this. 73, Sami OH2BFO This is a sensible strategy and exactly what I hope happens. That way, we still have binary code that interfaces to 1.1. That's what I most care about. The real question will be when someone desires to use the new function in .Net 2.0. IMHO, this had better be for something substantial, because it will make a forced upgrade for a lot of people. The fact that they can still have 1.1 on their machine is nice, but not necessarily disposative. Adding a big chunk of new code often has unexpected consequences. Some nonSDR code, for instance, may adapt to what level(s) of .Net code is available for all I know. Whether easy or hard to do in .Net, such practices have always existed. That could make things unstable beyond our own PowerSDR code. For a typical user, it would be a great mystery if this situation is even possible and something bad happened. What is relevant is we have a very capable and proven software stack -- PowerSDR plus .Net 1.1. If we change to PowerSDR plus .Net 2.0, I predict addtional instability for some time to come on our own code base at least. At the very least, this ought to be introduced as part of our beta/preview work long before it becomes part of the official supported download. In the end, I think that will be easier for everyone, whenever we make the move. People need to plan this sort of thing a lot more often than is commonly realized. Larry WO0Z
Re: [Flexradio] update to .net
I would strongly recommend that PowerSDR users do not upgrade to v2.0 until we have verified that either our current version or an upcoming version works is compatible with the new version (unless you are comfortable with the process of getting back to v1.1). I dont know how hard it is to uninstall, but my experience with uninstalling these sorts of things from MS is not good. ;) Eric Wachsmann FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of tom Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:41 PM To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz Subject: [Flexradio] update to .net Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 out as xp update.
