Re: G3 powerboook naming

2004-06-17 Thread Larry le Mac
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Wallstreet I, Wallstreet II, Lombard, Pismo
To be more specific:
Kanga - Wallstreet - PDQ - Lombard - Pismo
:o)
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Re: G3 powerboook naming

2004-06-17 Thread Dean
Ok, I'll bite.
What does PDQ stand for?
Dean
Larry le Mac wrote:
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Wallstreet I, Wallstreet II, Lombard, Pismo

To be more specific:
Kanga - Wallstreet - PDQ - Lombard - Pismo
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Re: G3 powerboook naming

2004-06-17 Thread Eugene Lee
On Thu, Jun 17, 2004 at 12:31:22AM -0700, Dean wrote:
: 
: Ok, I'll bite.
: What does PDQ stand for?

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=pdq


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Re: G3 powerboook naming

2004-06-17 Thread Larry le Mac
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: What does PDQ stand for?
Pretty Damn Quick
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread MTH
On Thursday, June 17, 2004, at 05:05  AM, Steve Fuller wrote:
No specific recommendations, but if money's tight that's another good
reason to go with 'b'.  I wouldn't worry too much about 'b' being
obsolete, as 'g' will be obsolete soon as well. :)
Good point. Thanks Jeff, Laurent, Frank  Bob - I think I'll go with 
the
airport card
and an inexpensive B router. Now that you've got me started, on to
Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card is 
a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a 
wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an 
Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my 
knowledge, a genuine Apple Airport card will NOT work in this slot as 
the pinout on the Apple Airport card is different (and unique to 
Apple). You will need to purchase a standard PCMCIA 802.11b wireless 
card for your Pismo, so you will need to research what cards are going 
to work for you and whatever OS you are using on your computer.

Just thought that I'd clear up the terminology a bit, as it can make a 
difference when you are buying hardware.

Steve Fuller
That is not correct, the Pismo introduced in 2000 is Airport ready.
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Tony Coult
No, the Pismo has an internal Airport (but not Airport Extreme) card 
slot. Tony C.

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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Fuller
No specific recommendations, but if money's tight that's another good
reason to go with 'b'.  I wouldn't worry too much about 'b' being
obsolete, as 'g' will be obsolete soon as well. :)
Good point. Thanks Jeff, Laurent, Frank  Bob - I think I'll go with 
the
airport card
and an inexpensive B router. Now that you've got me started, on to
Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card is 
a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a 
wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an 
Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my 
knowledge, a genuine Apple Airport card will NOT work in this slot as 
the pinout on the Apple Airport card is different (and unique to 
Apple). You will need to purchase a standard PCMCIA 802.11b wireless 
card for your Pismo, so you will need to research what cards are going 
to work for you and whatever OS you are using on your computer.

Just thought that I'd clear up the terminology a bit, as it can make a 
difference when you are buying hardware.

Steve Fuller
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Re: G3 powerboook naming

2004-06-17 Thread Larry le Mac
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What does PDQ stand for?
Wallstreet/PDQ's official names are Series and Series II
PDQ = Pretty Damn Quick
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_300.html
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out of curiousity

2004-06-17 Thread LookInsideMyHead
How hard is it for people when they respond to messages to CUT the below out 
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Getting the list in digest mode it drives me crazy AND i have to think is a 
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And yes, I know this has come up before BUT still many people continue to be 
lazy which lead me to be curious as to the why???

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Re: out of curiousity

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 17/06/04 08:53, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 How hard is it for people when they respond to messages to CUT the below out
 of the response?
 
 Getting the list in digest mode it drives me crazy AND i have to think is a
 simple fix on the part of anyone who responds to a message to just quote the
 important parts.
 
 And yes, I know this has come up before BUT still many people continue to be
 lazy which lead me to be curious as to the why???

I guess that's just because they're... lazy.

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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:

 Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card is
 a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a
 wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an
 Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my

Eek. My bad. Didn't know this. Thanks for clarifying that.

 knowledge, a genuine Apple Airport card will NOT work in this slot as
 the pinout on the Apple Airport card is different (and unique to
 Apple). You will need to purchase a standard PCMCIA 802.11b wireless
 card for your Pismo, so you will need to research what cards are going
 to work for you and whatever OS you are using on your computer.

 Just thought that I'd clear up the terminology a bit, as it can make a
 difference when you are buying hardware.

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Re: out of curiousity

2004-06-17 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How hard is it for people when they respond to messages to CUT the below out
 of the response?

Minimally difficult (I'm using PINE)...but it's actually required, I
believe IAW the FAQ.

 Getting the list in digest mode it drives me crazy AND i have to think is a
 simple fix on the part of anyone who responds to a message to just quote the
 important parts.

 And yes, I know this has come up before BUT still many people continue to be
 lazy which lead me to be curious as to the why???

Human nature. Now, when this list expands beyond our own solar system
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Re: Wallstreet Crashes

2004-06-17 Thread Bill Buckhaults
Bob;
 I trashed preferences you suggested and ran Tech Tool Lite. I  removed 
Bookmarks folder but have been unable to locate Netscape cache folder or 
Netscape Global History file. The problem is now less frequent but too 
early to know if it is corrected completely. Many thanks to both Bob and 
Laurent for their response.
Bill

Bob wrote:
The National Enquirer reports at 3:00 PM -0400 6/13/04, Bill 
Buckhaults wrote:

 

My trusty Wallstreet for the past five years is now driving me nuts. It
frequently crashes while surfing with Netscape Navigator 7.1, but only
when I try to use bookmarks. It gives  error message #1 or #2 and
sometimes states Control strip extension address error and other times,
Finder address error. I run OS 9.1 with 96 megs of ram on a 233mhz
processor.
Can someone please provide advise or suggestions? Any help will be
appreciated.
TIA
   

The easiest step in trouble shooting is to try to determine if the 
problem is software related.

Start by removing the following preferences, then reboot:
Finder Preferences
Mac OS Preferences
System Preferences
If that doesn't help, then:
Delete everything in the Netscape Cache folder
Delete Netscape's Global History file
Remove (not necessarily delete it yet) the Bookmark Folder and start 
with fresh bookmarks

If no improvement, then Zap your PRAM, preferably with TechTool Lite 
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 17/06/04 13:12, Frank P. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:
 
 Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card is
 a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a
 wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an
 Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my
 
 Eek. My bad. Didn't know this. Thanks for clarifying that.

Gee! This thread is one of the toughest I ever seen!

The Pismo has one PCMCIA slot *AND* one internal AirPort slot for an AirPort
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Fuller
On Jun 17, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
On 17/06/04 13:12, Frank P. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:
Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card 
is
a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a
wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an
Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my
Eek. My bad. Didn't know this. Thanks for clarifying that.
Gee! This thread is one of the toughest I ever seen!
The Pismo has one PCMCIA slot *AND* one internal AirPort slot for an 
AirPort
card.
Thank you to Laurent and all the others for the correction. The Pismo 
was a bit before my time, and I was basing my comments on outdated and 
obviously incorrect information. We all learn something new every day 
don't we? :)

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Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Imal Tornapart
Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the computer
ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see
the OS X boot option, not the 9.2, which I can get to thru the Startup Disk
control panel/system pref.  Any hope?  Do I need a special boot image or a
setting change?

How bout booting from USB, or is that just a dream for a 4-year-old
computer?


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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Frank P. Eigler
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:


 On Jun 17, 2004, at 12:50 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

  On 17/06/04 13:12, Frank P. Eigler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:
 
  Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card
  is
  a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a
  wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an
  Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my
 
  Eek. My bad. Didn't know this. Thanks for clarifying that.
 
  Gee! This thread is one of the toughest I ever seen!
 
  The Pismo has one PCMCIA slot *AND* one internal AirPort slot for an
  AirPort
  card.

 Thank you to Laurent and all the others for the correction. The Pismo
 was a bit before my time, and I was basing my comments on outdated and
 obviously incorrect information. We all learn something new every day
 don't we? :)

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More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Imal Tornapart
Hi, I'm Dan.

I'm brand new to the world of Mac (from years as a PC builder/fixer) and
have a nice G3 400 Pismo 2000, 20GB, 576MB, running 9.2.2 and X.  I have
been having a crash course on the whole Mac world for a week now, for the
first time ever, and am liking it so far.

I've been following this wireless thread, but I still have some reading to
do before I commit.  I must admit I am undecided as to my choice in wireless
hardware.  Apple hardware seems solid but limited in price range, yet the
affordable third-party gear seems to be touchier to get working on Macs.

I'm a low-end computing person, and would like to get as good a deal on the
wireless gear as I have so far on the box and accessories I've put together.
I don't need the fastest bestest gear on the block, but you-all seem to
share the same attitude of getting it working and keeping it for as long as
possible.

I have read so much conflicting data, even at Apple.com, that I can't
decide.  So where can I get hard technical info on the hardware in this
Pismo?  Is that a PCMCIA or an Airport slot?  Will one or another work
better with ClassicStumbler?  On and on..

Thanks for looking at my long-winded rambling.  I'll tighten it up next
time. :)

Dan

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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 17/06/04 15:48, Imal Tornapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, I'm Dan.
 
 I'm brand new to the world of Mac (from years as a PC builder/fixer) and
 have a nice G3 400 Pismo 2000, 20GB, 576MB, running 9.2.2 and X.  I have
 been having a crash course on the whole Mac world for a week now, for the
 first time ever, and am liking it so far.
 
 I've been following this wireless thread, but I still have some reading to
 do before I commit.  I must admit I am undecided as to my choice in wireless
 hardware.  Apple hardware seems solid but limited in price range, yet the
 affordable third-party gear seems to be touchier to get working on Macs.
 
 I'm a low-end computing person, and would like to get as good a deal on the
 wireless gear as I have so far on the box and accessories I've put together.
 I don't need the fastest bestest gear on the block, but you-all seem to
 share the same attitude of getting it working and keeping it for as long as
 possible.
 
 I have read so much conflicting data, even at Apple.com, that I can't
 decide.  So where can I get hard technical info on the hardware in this
 Pismo?  Is that a PCMCIA or an Airport slot?  Will one or another work
 better with ClassicStumbler?  On and on..
 
 Thanks for looking at my long-winded rambling.  I'll tighten it up next
 time. :)

AppleSpecs can sometimes help
http://www.info.apple.com/support/applespec.html. For the PowerBook
(FireWire or Pismo),
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=43126.

For a more detailed description, there is also EveryMac.com
http://www.everymac.com/systems/apple/powerbook_g3/stats/powerbook_g3_400_f
w.html

You can use any wireless router that are 802.11b compliant. Then, use System
Profiler on OS X to check if your PowerBook has an internal AirPort card. If
it doesn't, you can probably get one cheap on eBay or maybe SmallDogs.
Unless you plan to transfer huge files on your network with another
computer, you don't really need 802.11g (54Mbps). If all what you're
planning to do is surf the Internet, receive and send emails, then 802.11b
(11Mbps) is plenty fast.

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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
On 17/06/04 15:20, Imal Tornapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the computer
 ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see
 the OS X boot option, not the 9.2, which I can get to thru the Startup Disk
 control panel/system pref.  Any hope?  Do I need a special boot image or a
 setting change?
 
 How bout booting from USB, or is that just a dream for a 4-year-old
 computer?

Are you talking about a Pismo or a Bronze (Lombard)? A Pismo should be able
to boot from a CD. I don't know what is a Knoppix boot CD, though, never
heard of it.

Pressing option at boot shows you the volumes that the Pismo sees as
suitable for booting. If your 9.2 installation doesn't show up, then it's
missing something and you might have to re-install.

I'm not sure a Pismo can boot from USB. With an external USB CD-ROM, it
could possibly do. It can certainly boot from an external FireWire drive.

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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 6/17/04 3:20 PM, Imal Tornapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the computer
 ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see
 the OS X boot option, not the 9.2, which I can get to thru the Startup Disk
 control panel/system pref.  Any hope?  Do I need a special boot image or a
 setting change?
 
 How bout booting from USB, or is that just a dream for a 4-year-old
 computer?

Knoppix, I believe, only supports Intel processors, not Motorola. And if I'm
wrong about that, you'd still need the Mac compatible version in order to
boot. YellowDog and SuSe are two distros that have Mac compatible versions.

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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Tom Wolfe
On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 16:55:57 -0400, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
 On 6/17/04 3:20 PM, Imal Tornapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the computer
  ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see
  the OS X boot option, not the 9.2, which I can get to thru the Startup Disk
  control panel/system pref.  Any hope?  Do I need a special boot image or a
  setting change?
  
  How bout booting from USB, or is that just a dream for a 4-year-old
  computer?
 
 Knoppix, I believe, only supports Intel processors, not Motorola. And if
 I'm
 wrong about that, you'd still need the Mac compatible version in order to
 boot. YellowDog and SuSe are two distros that have Mac compatible
 versions.
 
 david

There is a version of Knoppix for Mac, I hope that's the one you are
trying. I downloaded it and couldn't get it to boot on my iMac. From
what I understand not many people have actually gotten it to run. I
would try a CD that's known to boot in your drive. When my iMac was
brand new I partioned the drive to install Linux (it's a compulsion
among some of us to see if we can install Linux on every computer that
passes through our hands) and could't even get get the Mac restore disk
to boot. After wearing the helpful people on this list out I took it to
the Apple Store. The drive had a bad ROM. But I bet it's a problem with
the Knoppix. I can't help you with the USB question.

Tom


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Re: Using Apple DVD-Rom ATA/IDE drive/Wallstreet II?

2004-06-17 Thread Mikael Byström
Jeff, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I had a combo drive in an 
external FW case. I was able to watch a Star Wars DVD playing in the 
external drive on my G4 powerbook. I could not watch anything on my 
333mhz (no built-in decoder) Lombard with the same setup. I only tested 
it on the G4 with a video DVD to make sure it worked.

Well, do the combo drive have builtin hardware DVD movie decoding that
Apples DVDplayer can utilize? I'd guess not, as the Lombard didn't work,
so you were using the G4s builtin.
Anyone have any suggestions how to determine if you're using hardware or
software DVD decoding in your machine? I'd guess for example VLC isn't
using builtin hardware DVD-decoding if isn't supported trough OS X API's,
though I'd assume if you have a G4 VLC may offer software DVD decoding
and it might work anyway. 
I have very little real experience in this area, so any knowledgeable
info is welcome.

Anyway, for Wallstreets and OS X, I guess hardware decoding is out and
software decoding is the only way? Or? 

OS 9 may have very different scenarios I suppose.


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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 4:21 PM -0400 6/17/04, Laurent 
Daudelin wrote:

On 17/06/04 15:48, Imal Tornapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Hi, I'm Dan.
 
  I'm brand new to the world of Mac (from years as a PC builder/fixer) and
  have a nice G3 400 Pismo 2000, 20GB, 576MB, running 9.2.2 and X.  I have
  been having a crash course on the whole Mac world for a week now, for the
  first time ever, and am liking it so far.
 
  I've been following this wireless thread, but I still have some reading to
  do before I commit.  I must admit I am undecided as to my choice 
in wireless
  hardware.  Apple hardware seems solid but limited in price range, yet the
  affordable third-party gear seems to be touchier to get working on Macs.
 
  I'm a low-end computing person, and would like to get as good a deal on the
  wireless gear as I have so far on the box and accessories I've 
put together.
  I don't need the fastest bestest gear on the block, but you-all seem to
  share the same attitude of getting it working and keeping it for as long as
  possible.
 
  I have read so much conflicting data, even at Apple.com, that I can't
  decide.  So where can I get hard technical info on the hardware in this
  Pismo?  Is that a PCMCIA or an Airport slot?  Will one or another work
  better with ClassicStumbler?  On and on..
 
  Thanks for looking at my long-winded rambling.  I'll tighten it up next
  time. :)

snip
You can use any wireless router that are 802.11b compliant.

That's a pretty broad statement, Laurent. Can I clarify it a little bit?

You *can* use any 802.11b compliant WiFi router...if, and only 
if...there is a driver for it, either from the manufacturer, from the 
OS itself, or if a 3rd-party diver supports it. That applies to all 
OS versions, but especially OS X. If you can find one that meets that 
requirement, go for whatever makes you happy.

For additional features you may want in a WiFi router, please refer 
to my comments in the previous threads:
Wall Street, wi-fi, and OS 9.1   on 6/15
another wireless questionon 6/16

A question for those of you using 3rd-party cards or routers -- would 
you say that a person needs to be somewhat technically savvy to get 
these to work (not a total Geek, just a notch or two above a novice 
user)? I'm just curious. I don't think I would expect a fairly novice 
user to be able to install the Sourceforge wireless driver in OS X 
and be able to get it to work without help.

Then, use System
Profiler on OS X to check if your PowerBook has an internal AirPort card. If
it doesn't, you can probably get one cheap on eBay or maybe SmallDogs.

With only one PCMCIA slot, it seems more prudent to me to get an 
internal Airport card. You never know when you might want to use that 
PC slot for something else. For instance,  10/100 Ethernet card.

Unless you plan to transfer huge files on your network with another
computer, you don't really need 802.11g (54Mbps). If all what you're
planning to do is surf the Internet, receive and send emails, then 802.11b
(11Mbps) is plenty fast.

If I'm interpreting Laurent's comment correctly, he meant to say 
/or/ with another computer. (I'm an expert at making typos and 
omissions. g). I agree with his assessment completely.

Bob


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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Imal Tornapart
I believe you're right about knoppix being an Intel-only OS.. didn't check
first because it was faster to just pop it in and try.
I'll have to look into live-CD **ix options that are Mac compatible.

 Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the
computer
 ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see

Knoppix, I believe, only supports Intel processors, not Motorola. And if I'm
wrong about that, you'd still need the Mac compatible version in order to
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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Bruce Johnson
On Jun 17, 2004, at 5:00 PM, Imal Tornapart wrote:
I believe you're right about knoppix being an Intel-only OS.. didn't 
check
first because it was faster to just pop it in and try.
I'll have to look into live-CD **ix options that are Mac compatible.

Why not OS XI mean if you want to play with Unix on a Mac you may 
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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Steve Fuller
On Jun 17, 2004, at 6:39 PM, Bob wrote:
snip
You can use any wireless router that are 802.11b compliant.
That's a pretty broad statement, Laurent. Can I clarify it a little 
bit?

You *can* use any 802.11b compliant WiFi router...if, and only
if...there is a driver for it, either from the manufacturer, from the
OS itself, or if a 3rd-party diver supports it. That applies to all
OS versions, but especially OS X. If you can find one that meets that
requirement, go for whatever makes you happy.
Well, I would mostly tend to agree with Laurent's statement. The card 
that you place in the Powerbook will need a driver. If the router (or 
access point or whatever it is) supports setup via web browser (which 
most recent ones do), you won't need a driver to set it up. I have seen 
older access points (or routers) that can only be set up over USB 
initially. For those, you would probably need an appropriate driver to 
set the access point up. Fortunately, those are few and far between now 
if you purchase new. With used models, you may take your chances. Once 
the initial setup is done, you should be able to use any 802.11b 
compatible access point (or router) with an Apple Airport card for 
internet access.

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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread Imal Tornapart
Well, I bought this Powerbook from a friend, and it actually came with 9.2
and OS X; I think he thought it only had 9.2 on it.
I'm discovering more niceness every day with this computer..

It's a Powerbook Firewire, M7572, not a Bronze as I previously reported.  Is
this then a Pismo also?
scratches head which is loaded with PC specs but only recently with Mac
specs

This is a really cool, well-integrated machine.  It picked up my digicam
right off the bat with OS's own drivers, which is more than Widnows 2000
could do.
I hope I choose the wireless setup wisely.


 I believe you're right about knoppix being an Intel-only OS.. didn't
 check
 first because it was faster to just pop it in and try.
 I'll have to look into live-CD **ix options that are Mac compatible.


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Re: Pismo question - Boot from CD?

2004-06-17 Thread John McGibney
 
 Can the Pismo Bronze boot from CD? I have a Knoppix boot CD and the computer
 ignores it during boot.  Pressing Option during boot only allows me to see
 the OS X boot option, not the 9.2, which I can get to thru the Startup Disk
 control panel/system pref.  Any hope?  Do I need a special boot image or a
 setting change?
 
 How bout booting from USB, or is that just a dream for a 4-year-old
 computer?
 
 Are you talking about a Pismo or a Bronze (Lombard)? A Pismo should be able
 to boot from a CD. I don't know what is a Knoppix boot CD, though, never
 heard of it.
 
 Pressing option at boot shows you the volumes that the Pismo sees as
 suitable for booting. If your 9.2 installation doesn't show up, then it's
 missing something and you might have to re-install.
 
 I'm not sure a Pismo can boot from USB. With an external USB CD-ROM, it
 could possibly do. It can certainly boot from an external FireWire drive.
 
 -Laurent.

If both OS versions are on the same partition of the drive then Option
will not work. If a CD doesn't show up as a bootable drive then the system
version will not boot that machine. If you have X on one partition and 9 on
the other then you can select X or 9 via Option at start.

To start from a bootable CD hold the C key at start. In some stubborn cases
you can try holding Command-Option-Delete to skip the internal drive and
have your Mac search around for another bootable drive.

To switch from X to 9 you need to open System Preferences and select
Startup Disk. From there you can switch to any bootable system on any
available drive.

To switch back to X you need to select Startup Disk  folder from the
Control Panels folder. I don't think the Pismo can restart into X just by
holding the X key upon start/restart. Try holding the X key and wait until
you hear a second bong.

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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Imal Tornapart
I've had an 802.11b Airport card in my Pismo (Powerbook Firewire 2000)
since 2001.
IF I wanted to upgrade to the 802.11g standard I would need to get a
compatible PCMCIA card.
Pismo 400MHZ G3, 768MB RAM, OS X 10.3.4
Turtle-Bear

Nice, that's very close to the system I have.  Which base station are you
using?

Are you confident that you can use 802.11g on this model, even as a PCMCIA
card? How about AirPort Extreme?
I was under the impression that the Firewire 2000 was only able to use
802.11b. Is this a driver issue?

Also, what about Mac OS 9.2? Will I be able to use an 802.11b or 802.11g
PCMCIA card in both X and 9.2?
Anyone have a tested combo so I can start with a known good setup?

I swear I am reading GB's of web pages relating to this issue.  Still just a
bit confusing, but it is getting clearer, slowly.
Better to measure twice and cut once, I think, even if that involves asking
scores of questions.

Thanks to all who have helped me so far, and there's more to come...

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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 17/06/04 20:58, Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 I've had an 802.11b Airport card in my Pismo (Powerbook Firewire 2000)
 since 2001.
 
 IF I wanted to upgrade to the 802.11g standard I would need to get a
 compatible PCMCIA card.

That is correct, sir. Again, the only reason why a 802.11g would be better
than 802.11b would be in the case where you want to frequently transfer
large files between your Pismo and another computer on your network. There
is currently no broadband access (cable or DSL) that will use all the
bandwidth of 802.11b, so it is really pointless to get 802.11g in the hope
of faster transfers from the internet...

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Re: Using Apple DVD-Rom ATA/IDE drive/Wallstreet II?

2004-06-17 Thread Andrew Kershaw
Well, do the combo drive have builtin hardware DVD movie decoding that
Apples DVDplayer can utilize? I'd guess not, as the Lombard didn't work,
so you were using the G4s builtin.
I think you might be confusing things a bit here.  The 
DVD-ROM/+/-R/RW drive itself doesn't have any logic that _decodes_ 
DVDs.  That is done completely by the host computer (either with 
hardware assistance or totally in software).

The Lombard doesn't have the horsepower to decode DVDs in software, 
so there's a CardBus card (actually a combo zoomed video card, IIRC) 
that does the decoding in hardware.  Without that card, you can't 
play DVDs in OS 9.  I don't have any experience with OS X software 
DVD playback, but the CardBus card isn't supported in OS X.

Anyone have any suggestions how to determine if you're using hardware or
software DVD decoding in your machine?
Sure.  OS 9, Wallstreet  Lombard = hardware decoder (PC card). 
Pismo and newer = software.  OS X = software.

There's sort of a misnomer here.  The higher end laptops do software 
decoding, but they hand a large part of the work off to the video 
card.  So while there's no true MPEG2 hardware decoder on the video 
card, the video card is still doing a lot of work and not leaving it 
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 17/06/04 21:18, Imal Tornapart at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've had an 802.11b Airport card in my Pismo (Powerbook Firewire 2000)
 since 2001.
 IF I wanted to upgrade to the 802.11g standard I would need to get a
 compatible PCMCIA card.
 Pismo 400MHZ G3, 768MB RAM, OS X 10.3.4
 Turtle-Bear
 
 Nice, that's very close to the system I have.  Which base station are you
 using?
 
 Are you confident that you can use 802.11g on this model, even as a PCMCIA
 card? How about AirPort Extreme?
 I was under the impression that the Firewire 2000 was only able to use
 802.11b. Is this a driver issue?
 
 Also, what about Mac OS 9.2? Will I be able to use an 802.11b or 802.11g
 PCMCIA card in both X and 9.2?
 Anyone have a tested combo so I can start with a known good setup?
 
 I swear I am reading GB's of web pages relating to this issue.  Still just a
 bit confusing, but it is getting clearer, slowly.
 Better to measure twice and cut once, I think, even if that involves asking
 scores of questions.
 
 Thanks to all who have helped me so far, and there's more to come...

A Pismo has only an internal regular AirPort card slot. AirPort (the 1st
generation) only supports 802.11b. If you want to use 802.11g, then you will
need to buy a 3rd party card and make sure they provide a driver for the OS
you want to use it with. This 3rd party card will be a PCMCIA card, so you
will need to plug it into the PCMCIA slot of your Pismo.

I haven't heard about any 3rd party 802.11g card that works in OS X right
now. That is not to say that it doesn't exist, but I haven't heard about
any. You could check the driver of IOExpert.com. They sell a driver that
supports a wide range of 802.11b card in OS X. Maybe they do support 802.11g
cards as well, I don't know.

I think that it will be hard to find anything 802.11g for OS 9. The OS
hasn't been updated in over 2 years and Apple has clearly stated that it's a
dead-end. So, most manufacturers and software developers focus their
resources for OS X and you're more likely to get support for 802.11g for OS
X only. However, you do have to remember that with OS X having maybe 2% or
3% of the computer market, few wireless equipment makers provide drivers
even for OS X. That's where IOExpert might come handy...

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Pismo Sleeping/Booting Saga

2004-06-17 Thread Hoju Dingo
Hi Folks
As I mentioned previously, my Pismo (Powerbook G3 (Firewire), 
400Mhz/512MB/40GB)
is suffering from a sleeping (i.e. not waking up) and booting (i.e. not 
booting up)
malady though to be precise the hard disk seems to turn on fine (as I 
hear it hum)
but nothing pops up on the screen and no chime occurs. I have no real 
clue but
suspects include the main battery, PRAM battery,
PMU and any other parts involved in booting and sleeping ...

1. One previous suggestion was to reseat the memory and daughtercard but
the fact that the Pismo eventually boots from AC (after overnight, some 
8 hours without
power attached ) makes me wonder about other suspects ...

2. I thought if I replaced the worn out main battery (LiIon) it might 
help but it
didn't ... in any case it runs well on AC power (once booted up ...).

3. I then thought it might be the PRAM battery is worn out ... maybe it 
is
though I removed it and tested it with a voltmeter and it read 6.4 Volts
but of course I didn't wait any time to see how long it held that
charge ... could it be worn out too? But in any case even when it was
charged up it didn't boot the machine up ... but perhaps it loses charge
after being left overnight and then the PRAM is in some default state
allowing reboot ??? I also borrowed a working Pismo 500Mhz (damaged 
screen, poor thing!)
and swapped PRAM batteries and mine still didn't boot whereas the Pismo 
500Mhz did
on my PRAM battery ...

4. Once booted up ... putting it to sleep is usually permanent (no 
screen waking up
though the keyboard lights are live, and hard disk hums) ... and 
reboots do
not usually bring the screen up either ... I generally have to do some
magic (not sure what works) ... reset the Pismo using the rear button, 
remove
battery, and try to reboot from AC ... sometimes it works after some 
hours left alone.

I'm lucky (?) I extended my AppleCare ... so I will put it in for 
service soon
but I hate to be without it and I need to backup regularly (in case the 
service folk
kill the drive ... hmmm ... could it be a drive problem ... I installed 
a 40GB Travelstar
in late 2002 ... but it seems to run fine ...)

Sorry about the length, it is still a mystery to me (I hoped it was 
just a PRAM
battery problem since I occasionally lose dates)

Thanks for any help and suggestions,
Regards
Harry. (DownUnder in Canberra which is getting chilly! Snow in the 
Mountains!)

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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Bob
The National Enquirer reports at 7:39 PM -0500 6/17/04, Steve Fuller wrote:

On Jun 17, 2004, at 6:39 PM, Bob wrote:

  snip
  You can use any wireless router that are 802.11b compliant.
 
  That's a pretty broad statement, Laurent. Can I clarify it a little
  bit?
 
  You *can* use any 802.11b compliant WiFi router...if, and only
  if...there is a driver for it, either from the manufacturer, from the
  OS itself, or if a 3rd-party diver supports it. That applies to all
  OS versions, but especially OS X. If you can find one that meets that
  requirement, go for whatever makes you happy.

Well, I would mostly tend to agree with Laurent's statement. The card
that you place in the Powerbook will need a driver.

Ack, when I cross wires, I really cross wires. You're absolutely 
right. It's the card that needs the driver. I should have said setup 
software. The WAP will need to be configured and the end user will 
need to have some way of doing that.

Laurent, I owe you an apology. I came down with a sudden case of 
foot-in-mouth disease.

If the router (or
access point or whatever it is) supports setup via web browser (which
most recent ones do), you won't need a driver to set it up.

I have not kept up with the changes in 3rd-party WAPs. I just 
remember seeing numerous complaints about some units being extremely 
difficult to setup because of the lack of Mac software or Mac 
support. Perhaps, as you say, all that has changed in the last year 
or so. I know that some manufacturers have  an IP addresses that can 
be accessed via a browser to assist the buyer in setting the unit up.

I have seen
older access points (or routers) that can only be set up over USB
initially. For those, you would probably need an appropriate driver to
set the access point up. Fortunately, those are few and far between now
if you purchase new. With used models, you may take your chances. Once
the initial setup is done, you should be able to use any 802.11b
compatible access point (or router) with an Apple Airport card for
internet access.

I was thinking of some possible changes that might need to be made 
from time to time. Like turning on or off WEP or WAP; changing 
encryption codes; adding or removing MACs in the access control 
section. That sort of thing. But as noted above, if you can set up 
the unit initially, the changes shouldn't be much more difficult. 
Personally, I make more changes than the average bear because I'm 
still using dialup and have more than one ISP. So every time I need 
to use another ISP, I have to tell the base station to use  different 
information. It's easy to forget that most people don't have that 
situation.

Thanks for catching my faux pas. I hit a mental bad block every now 
and again and it gums everything up. :-/

Bob


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Re: Pismo Sleeping/Booting Saga

2004-06-17 Thread Laurent Daudelin
on 17/06/04 21:29, Hoju Dingo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Folks
 
 As I mentioned previously, my Pismo (Powerbook G3 (Firewire),
 400Mhz/512MB/40GB)
 is suffering from a sleeping (i.e. not waking up) and booting (i.e. not
 booting up)
 malady though to be precise the hard disk seems to turn on fine (as I
 hear it hum)
 but nothing pops up on the screen and no chime occurs. I have no real
 clue but
 suspects include the main battery, PRAM battery,
 PMU and any other parts involved in booting and sleeping ...
 
 1. One previous suggestion was to reseat the memory and daughtercard but
 the fact that the Pismo eventually boots from AC (after overnight, some
 8 hours without
 power attached ) makes me wonder about other suspects ...
 
 2. I thought if I replaced the worn out main battery (LiIon) it might
 help but it
 didn't ... in any case it runs well on AC power (once booted up ...).
 
 3. I then thought it might be the PRAM battery is worn out ... maybe it
 is
 though I removed it and tested it with a voltmeter and it read 6.4 Volts
 but of course I didn't wait any time to see how long it held that
 charge ... could it be worn out too? But in any case even when it was
 charged up it didn't boot the machine up ... but perhaps it loses charge
 after being left overnight and then the PRAM is in some default state
 allowing reboot ??? I also borrowed a working Pismo 500Mhz (damaged
 screen, poor thing!)
 and swapped PRAM batteries and mine still didn't boot whereas the Pismo
 500Mhz did
 on my PRAM battery ...
 
 4. Once booted up ... putting it to sleep is usually permanent (no
 screen waking up
 though the keyboard lights are live, and hard disk hums) ... and
 reboots do
 not usually bring the screen up either ... I generally have to do some
 magic (not sure what works) ... reset the Pismo using the rear button,
 remove
 battery, and try to reboot from AC ... sometimes it works after some
 hours left alone.
 
 I'm lucky (?) I extended my AppleCare ... so I will put it in for
 service soon
 but I hate to be without it and I need to backup regularly (in case the
 service folk
 kill the drive ... hmmm ... could it be a drive problem ... I installed
 a 40GB Travelstar
 in late 2002 ... but it seems to run fine ...)
 
 Sorry about the length, it is still a mystery to me (I hoped it was
 just a PRAM
 battery problem since I occasionally lose dates)
 
 Thanks for any help and suggestions,
 
 Regards
 Harry. (DownUnder in Canberra which is getting chilly! Snow in the
 Mountains!)
 

It sounds like a PMU that has gone south, but it's a real tough problem to
diagnose...

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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo
Dan,
We use the snow Airport base station (not extreme). It was fairly easy 
to set up (followed directions for most secure - for wireless - 
network). We made a few stumbling mistakes, but finally got it working. 
Works nicely with our Qwest DSL.

DSL Modem-Router---Ethernet Switch---ABS
The above ethernet switch is distribution for ethernet throughout our 
house.

I've seen lots of talk about wireless 802.11g PC cards and I would 
check out http://macwireless.com first if I was going to buy. Seems 
like a great website.

BTW, for our purposes Airport Extreme = 802.11g. You just can't install 
an Airport Extreme card in a Pismo due to a different type of port and 
hardware protocol. So the only way to go for extreme speed is a 
PCMCIA wireless card.

Can't actually help you because I haven't shopped yet. Can't help with 
OS 9 issues and wireless PC cards either, but the Airport card 
installed in my Pismo works fine on OS 9.2.2 and Jaguar/Panther.

Turtle-Bear
On Jun 17, 2004, at 7:18 PM, Imal Tornapart wrote:
I've had an 802.11b Airport card in my Pismo (Powerbook Firewire 2000)
since 2001.
IF I wanted to upgrade to the 802.11g standard I would need to get a
compatible PCMCIA card.
Pismo 400MHZ G3, 768MB RAM, OS X 10.3.4
Turtle-Bear
Nice, that's very close to the system I have.  Which base station are 
you
using?

Are you confident that you can use 802.11g on this model, even as a 
PCMCIA
card? How about AirPort Extreme?
I was under the impression that the Firewire 2000 was only able to use
802.11b. Is this a driver issue?

Also, what about Mac OS 9.2? Will I be able to use an 802.11b or 
802.11g
PCMCIA card in both X and 9.2?
Anyone have a tested combo so I can start with a known good setup?

I swear I am reading GB's of web pages relating to this issue.  Still 
just a
bit confusing, but it is getting clearer, slowly.
Better to measure twice and cut once, I think, even if that involves 
asking
scores of questions.

Thanks to all who have helped me so far, and there's more to come...
Dan

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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Clark Martin
At 5:39 PM -0600 6/17/04, Bob wrote:
The National Enquirer reports at 4:21 PM -0400 6/17/04, Laurent
Daudelin wrote:


 You can use any wireless router that are 802.11b compliant.
That's a pretty broad statement, Laurent. Can I clarify it a little bit?
You *can* use any 802.11b compliant WiFi router...if, and only
if...there is a driver for it, either from the manufacturer, from the
OS itself, or if a 3rd-party diver supports it. That applies to all
OS versions, but especially OS X. If you can find one that meets that
requirement, go for whatever makes you happy.

You CAN use any 802.11b compliant WiFi ROUTER.  No drivers are 
required for anything.  You will likely want one that can be 
configured via a web browser making it independent of operating 
system.  A WiFi INTERFACE CARD requires a OS specific driver, but not 
the router.


For additional features you may want in a WiFi router, please refer
to my comments in the previous threads:
Wall Street, wi-fi, and OS 9.1   on 6/15
another wireless questionon 6/16
A question for those of you using 3rd-party cards or routers -- would
you say that a person needs to be somewhat technically savvy to get
these to work (not a total Geek, just a notch or two above a novice
user)? I'm just curious. I don't think I would expect a fairly novice
user to be able to install the Sourceforge wireless driver in OS X
and be able to get it to work without help.
You don't have to be technically savvy to set it up, unless anything 
goes wrong.  But fortunately that never happens, does it.

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Re: More wireless questions - Pismo Bronze

2004-06-17 Thread Jeff Hubatka
That's a pretty broad statement, Laurent. Can I clarify it a little 
bit?

You *can* use any 802.11b compliant WiFi router...if, and only
if...there is a driver for it, either from the manufacturer, from the
OS itself, or if a 3rd-party diver supports it. That applies to all
OS versions, but especially OS X. If you can find one that meets that
requirement, go for whatever makes you happy.
For additional features you may want in a WiFi router, please refer
to my comments in the previous threads:
Wall Street, wi-fi, and OS 9.1   on 6/15
another wireless questionon 6/16
A question for those of you using 3rd-party cards or routers -- would
you say that a person needs to be somewhat technically savvy to get
these to work (not a total Geek, just a notch or two above a novice
user)? I'm just curious. I don't think I would expect a fairly novice
user to be able to install the Sourceforge wireless driver in OS X
and be able to get it to work without help.

Routers are generally set up through a web browser, and don't need 
specific drivers. The wireless cards, on the other hand, do need 
drivers. Installation of the sourceforge driver isn't any harder than 
installing another program, but the fact that the troubleshooting steps 
are to install each component separately a number of times can be 
confusing. I installed it a dozen times and never got the Proxim 
Harmony card to work, but the WaveLAN Gold worked first try for me with 
my TiBook.

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Re: Using Apple DVD-Rom ATA/IDE drive/Wallstreet II?

2004-06-17 Thread Jeff Hubatka
Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:25:04 -0600
From: Andrew Kershaw [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using Apple DVD-Rom ATA/IDE drive/Wallstreet II?
Well, do the combo drive have builtin hardware DVD movie decoding that
Apples DVDplayer can utilize? I'd guess not, as the Lombard didn't 
work,
so you were using the G4s builtin.
I think you might be confusing things a bit here.  The
DVD-ROM/+/-R/RW drive itself doesn't have any logic that _decodes_
DVDs.  That is done completely by the host computer (either with
hardware assistance or totally in software).
The Lombard doesn't have the horsepower to decode DVDs in software,
so there's a CardBus card (actually a combo zoomed video card, IIRC)
that does the decoding in hardware.  Without that card, you can't
play DVDs in OS 9.  I don't have any experience with OS X software
DVD playback, but the CardBus card isn't supported in OS X.
The 333mhz Lombard requires a PC card, the 400mhz model has a decoder 
chip on the motherboard.
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Re: another wireless question

2004-06-17 Thread Thomas Ethen
The reason that you didn't know it, it that the statement isn't true! The
Pismo does have an Airport Slot.

Tom

on 6/17/04 12:12, Frank P. Eigler at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 17 Jun 2004, Steve Fuller wrote:
 
 Just to clarify something I've seen in this thread, an Airport card is
 a wireless card that uses 802.11b to communicate between itself and a
 wireless access point (WAP) or other computers. This card requires an
 Airport slot to work. The Pismo only has a PCMCIA slot. To my
 
 Eek. My bad. Didn't know this. Thanks for clarifying that.


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Wireless Condo. . .

2004-06-17 Thread Zoltan
Hello all,
I have been living in my wireless condo for almost two years now. . 
.the setup is a PowerMac G4, PowerBook (Pismo), iBook (snow), and a 17 
PowerBook G4.  The iBook is my roomates.  All of these computers; with 
the exception of the PM G4, have an Airport (b) installed in them all 
running Panther 10.3.4.  Each have a gig of RAM and are used almost 
24/7.  I have several clients/friends who come over from time to time 
and they've got their ibooks, powerbooks, and laptops (yea. . .PC's 
actually ARE in my life!) and they already have their computers 
configured to work with my Airport base station.  In otherwords, 
someone could walk right onto my deck, whip out their portable computer 
and after turning it on they are connected automatically via broadband.

Now, here's the question.  My source for the internet is going to 
change.  I am currently with Charter Communications who provided my 
cable modem.  I'm having issues with their customer service and am 
tired of them screwing up my bill every month.  I have already given 
the go with Earthlink DSL.  Supposedly, they have stated they can offer 
the same speed of 3Mbps down and 384kbps up for only $34.95 a month.  
Sounds good but surfing is believing right?  What I need to know is 
what I will be needing to do to my router, if anything, to get this new 
DSL modem up and running.  There's going to be changes to the hardware 
as well.

Right now the system is as follows:  Cable modem (Charter), to Linksys 
Router.  PowerMac G4 and the Airport Station are connected to router.  
The other computers are connected via Airport.

The new setup will not include the PowerMac G4, and have the DSL modem 
instead of Cable, along with the Airport station and the mentioned 
Power/i/laptops.  Will I need to update firmware in my router?  Or do I 
even need the router anymore?  Can the DSL modem simply plug directly 
into the Base Station?  Also, what type of setup is recommended to 
share my Epson printer in this network?  Before, nobody needed to 
print, but now it's become second nature for printing.  Just wondering 
folks. . .will figure it out eventually, but I figured I'd throw this 
question out to this list, since everyone in this list is like me. . 
brilliant Mac users who simply love computers!  :)

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