[gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
Hi fellow gentoo fans, I'm running Gentoo on a Compaq Evo N800C laptop and do have trouble with the correct way to set up PCMCIA (cardbus) support for my Netgear WLAN card. I'm running gs-sources, as well as hotplug and linux-wlan-ng. During startup, hotplug tries to start cardmgr (?) which looks fairly odd to me. Afterwards pcmcia is supposed to start but finds its resouces busy because of that already started cardmgr. Therefore pcmcia fails (and wouldn't call net.wlan0 when a card is inserted) but hotplug wouldn't call it either. I've got pcmcia support compiled into the kernel (under general setup - PCMCIA/Cardbus support), as well as PCMCIA network device support and PCMCIA Wireless LAN under Network device support. (The help tells me I'd have to add corresponding user mode tools like pcmcia-cs to make it work). Somehow I've gotten that very same setup to work with gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r6, but in this case I must not have plugged in that WLAN card during boot, otherwise my card wouldn't get properly initialized or the interface be started. What is the preferred way of getting the card to work? Kernel support? pcmcia-cs? Linux-wlan-ng? I'd appreciate if you could point me to a working howto somewhere or give me some assistance. Best regards, - Christian -- Christian Aust mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 84500990 - Yahoo!: datenimperator - MSN: datenimperator GPG: 3C89AD72 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab
First, try paragraphs! On Thursday 21 August 2003 13:51, Scott Jones wrote: I never really have used cron but lately i have been trying to. I was trying to get it to check my email hourly by putting an entry into the cron.hourly directory. Well suffice to say it did not work. So i deleted the file and The /etc/cron.[daily,hourly,monthly,weekly] directories are use for system administrative stuff by convention. However, it should work anyway. next i was trying to use crontab from my local user. I could not so after much google searching I made a cron.allow file and added my user to it. This still didnt work. I added my users name into the cron entry in my /etc/groups file. Still no dice. To use cron as an unpriveleged user, that user must be in the cron group in /etc/group. Once that is done, logout and login again to update permissions, after which you can run crontab -e to edit your cron jobs. I think it's insane, but group membership only seems to be read at logon time. (somebody please correct me and/or tell me how to make it *always* read /etc/group!) The format for crontab can be found by running man 5 crontab. Finally i went and modifed the privledges onthe executable now i can use crontab as a normal user, but after more searching i found that there is a buffer overflow attack which can allow a non root user to get root privledges. I am the only user of my system so i am not to worried but i was wondering if someone more knowledgeable could tell me if what i am doing is silly. I haven't touched the permissions on my /usr/bin/crontab or /usr/sbin/cron. The info you found on the buffer flow overflow should have been tied to specific version(s). Did you check if the version you have is vulnerable? I imagine it probably is not. Either way, the default permissions seem fine. Should i just figure a way to do everything i want to do with cron from root. I personally am leaning toward figuring a way to do it just with root, because i figure there is a reason why cron and crontab were installed with the permissions they had. Your feedback is appreciated. I suggest re-emerging vcron (or whichever cron you're using), confirming you have correct permissions on /var/spool/cron/crontabs/* or perhaps just removing the /var/spool/cron directory before re-emerging vcron, and then using crontab -e to edit cron settings. Also, read man 1 crontab and 'man 1 cron'. Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab
Your '/usr/bin/crontab' should be owned by 'root:cron' with permissions '-rwxr-x---' Any unpriviledged user that shall use 'crontab' must belong to the 'cron' group. Login as an unpriviledged user and type 'crontab -l' to list your current entries. If that tells you your crontab is empty, everything is fine. You just create (edit) your private crontab with 'crontab -e'. If this doesn't work, please send copies of your permissions and any error messages. Gus Scott Jones [EMAIL PROTECTED] I added my users name into the cron entry in my /etc/groups file. Still no dice. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab
On Thursday 21 August 2003 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your '/usr/bin/crontab' should be owned by 'root:cron' with permissions '-rwxr-x---' Hmmm, mine (which I haven't changed) has permission -rwsr-x--- and owned by root:cron. Checking /var/spool/cron/crontabs/*, I find they have permissions -rw--- and are owned by root:user's group. Seems to me this is partially done to protect the user from directly editing /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username which then of course would not take effect until crond was restarted. Are you certain of what you wrote above? Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel 2.6 oddities
Jason Stubbs wrote: The best I've found is grepping /var/log/everything/current for modprobe. Of course, that only includes info of what modules errors happened after the kernel logger starts. It's not too informative either, but maybe a starting point. True. But even though I've added metalog to my boot runlevel, it still doesn't get a chance to record the earlier errors (like st, ide_tape, ide_probe_mod and I don't know what else). My biggest problem is to separate the real errors from the ones triggered by that stupid devfs/baselayout/module-init-tools/modules.conf bug that's been loitering on my systems for weeks now. Don't even know if it's a bug or not, but it sure is bugging me... Cheers Ulrich Plate pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab
I had a look at this yesterday evening. I will double check tonight. (Unfortunately, I find myself in front of M$ products all day long.) Gus Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ndnews.comcc: (bcc: Gustav Schaffter/CDS/CG/CAPITAL) Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab 21-08-2003 09:04 Please respond to gentoo-user On Thursday 21 August 2003 15:48, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your '/usr/bin/crontab' should be owned by 'root:cron' with permissions '-rwxr-x---' Hmmm, mine (which I haven't changed) has permission -rwsr-x--- and owned by root:cron. Checking /var/spool/cron/crontabs/*, I find they have permissions -rw--- and are owned by root:user's group. Seems to me this is partially done to protect the user from directly editing /var/spool/cron/crontabs/username which then of course would not take effect until crond was restarted. Are you certain of what you wrote above? Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
What is the preferred way of getting the card to work? Kernel support? pcmcia-cs? Linux-wlan-ng? I'd appreciate if you could point me to a working howto somewhere or give me some assistance. Best regards, I have a LinkSys WPC11 PCMCIA card up and running with kernel 2.4.21. I have NO PCMCIA support in the kernel, and pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng installed. IIRC I did add a service to my runlevel that starts the cardmanager (pcmcia?). Supposedly pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng have better drivers than the kernel. I guess that can depend on the card(s) you have. Gwen. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cron and crontab
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:00:06 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use cron as an unpriveleged user, that user must be in the cron group in /etc/group. Once that is done, logout and login again to update permissions, after which you can run crontab -e to edit your cron jobs. I think it's insane, but group membership only seems to be read at logon time. (somebody please correct me and/or tell me how to make it *always* read /etc/group!) hi, it's kind of silly but you could do: % sg cron -c 'crontab -e' from the current shell after being added to cron group. that prevents a logout at least. or newgrp cron, too. j. Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] /etc/group modifications [WAS] cron and crontab
On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:16, oleander wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 15:00:06 +0900 Jason Stubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To use cron as an unpriveleged user, that user must be in the cron group in /etc/group. Once that is done, logout and login again to update permissions, after which you can run crontab -e to edit your cron jobs. I think it's insane, but group membership only seems to be read at logon time. (somebody please correct me and/or tell me how to make it *always* read /etc/group!) hi, it's kind of silly but you could do: % sg cron -c 'crontab -e' from the current shell after being added to cron group. that prevents a logout at least. or newgrp cron, too. Yep, that works. It's more of a workaround though. Can anybody offer an explanation as to why do/should modifications to /etc/group only take effect at logon? Regards, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
A thing that I'm really missing is the gentoo counterpart to the FreeBSD Handbook. Or... Did I missed it? ISTM that one has to search accross the web to be able to use gentoo. First, it's extremly time consuming. And second, that's not acceptable for business purpose (although for hacker purpose, that's fine. I think, I will switch to gentoo at home). http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/glep/glep-0013.html This GLEP talks about the creation of a Gentoo Handbook, akin to FreeBSD's handbook, starting with the chapter on installation. YES! If we would have a Gentoo Handbook with the same level of quality as the FreeBSD one, I wouldn't see any reason to use something else as Gentoo ;-) Thanks! Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
Gwendolyn van der Linden [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:21:41 +0200: What is the preferred way of getting the card to work? Kernel support? pcmcia-cs? Linux-wlan-ng? I'd appreciate if you could point me to a working howto somewhere or give me some assistance. Best regards, I have a LinkSys WPC11 PCMCIA card up and running with kernel 2.4.21. I have NO PCMCIA support in the kernel, and pcmcia-cs and linux-wlan-ng installed. IIRC I did add a service to my runlevel that starts the cardmanager (pcmcia?). Thanks Gwen. Do I have to remove all PCMCIA support from the kernel, or just PCMCIA network devices and their drivers? I recall that when I removed the PCMCIA options from kernel hotplug support as well, compilation of linux-wlan-ng failed because of no PCMCIA support in the kernel. ;-( Best regards, - Christian -- Christian Aust mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] icq: 84500990 - Yahoo!: datenimperator - MSN: datenimperator PGP: A073 F9CD 2F23 25D2 EB95 E7A3 B9B4 2AF3 E103 DB5A -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/group modifications [WAS] cron and crontab
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 04:54:45PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:16, oleander wrote: it's kind of silly but you could do: % sg cron -c 'crontab -e' from the current shell after being added to cron group. that prevents a logout at least. or newgrp cron, too. Yep, that works. It's more of a workaround though. Can anybody offer an explanation as to why do/should modifications to /etc/group only take effect at logon? Because the owner and group ids are associated with a particular process when it's created, and normally aren't changed after that. Each process maintains a copy of what permissions it has, and passes those permissions on to any other process it creates. You don't want every process having to check the /etc/group file every time anything happens, do you? This way, only the login process really has to check the file for permissions. Basically, the /etc/group file is not some magic file that every program reads. Only programs that are explicitly written to read it do so, and /bin/login is one of those. Everything else just takes the permissions handed to it. And since only a process with superuser access can increase its own permissions... an unprivileged user can't do anything except call a setuid program like newgrp to add groups to a currently running process. However, from the newgrp man page: newgrp is used to change the current group ID during a login session. If the optional - flag is given, the user's environment will be reini- tialized as though the user had logged in, otherwise the current envi- ronment, including current working directory, remains unchanged. So just 'newgrp -' will work as a sort of re-login. ---+--- Bryan Feir VA3GBF|Advertising may be described as the science of Home:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | arresting human intelligence long enough to get | money from it. -- Stephen Leacock ---+--- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hi! The next point I'm eager to try is NPTL. I would like to have the latest version available, namely 0.55 (the v0.28 available with glibc-2.3.2-r1 is too buggy for me). For this, I need to install glibc-2.3.2-r3. How should I proceed? From my understanding, a simple emerge glibc won't do the trick, since the current (stable) package version is 2.3.2-r1. emerge /usr/portage/sys-libs/glibc/glibc-2.3.2-r3.ebuild I tried this yesterday already. I get the following error message: | !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-3.3-r1 | have been masked | | !!! (dependency required by sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3 [ebuild]) If I understood correctly, I need to install gcc-3.3-r1 first? (this is indeed required by nptl v0.55). Is it correct? My understanding was that emerge would take care about all dependencies, download eventually the new version required and compile it... But, it seems that I'm wrong... I have no problem to resolve all the dependencies manually, I'm just wondering if there is not a better way to proceed... Oh yes, an other question. What does mean ebuilds are masked? I saw already posts about the masking/unmasking thing, but I don't understand the underlying concept so far... TIA, Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
Thanks Gwen. Do I have to remove all PCMCIA support from the kernel, or just PCMCIA network devices and their drivers? I recall that when I removed the PCMCIA options from kernel hotplug support as well, compilation of linux-wlan-ng failed because of no PCMCIA support in the kernel. I believe I did uncheck the PCMCIA support in the kernel, and did not have a problem with compiling. Will have to check tonite (when I'm at home) though... Gwendolyn. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udma question
Kevin Bucknum wrote: The fastest any device will ever run on that channel will be whatever the slowest device is. So even if you never use the CD/DVD drive, your hard drive will be limited to the speed of the CD/DVD drive. I don't believe this is true any more. hda - ATA133 hdb - ATA66 hdc - ATA133 hdd - PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-105 (/dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/cd) hdparm -t /dev/hda /dev/hda: Timing buffered disk reads: 124 MB in 3.03 seconds = 40.92 MB/sec hdparm -t /dev/hdb /dev/hdb: Timing buffered disk reads: 38 MB in 3.14 seconds = 12.10 MB/sec hdparm -t /dev/hdc /dev/hdc: Timing buffered disk reads: 126 MB in 3.02 seconds = 41.72 MB/sec Peter -- hmmm - I wonder if that is a recent change? I'm still on 2.4.20 and this is my hdparm -v -i I think that changed some time ago (I think it was in the times of ATA33). UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 *udma4 udma5 First is my 13 gig primary and second is my 30 gig secondary. I'll have to triple check the cable when I get home to make sure that's not the bottle neck. I know the board will do ata/100 since I had that drive on the other channel before I bought a dvd drive and it was doing it there. I think the point her is that the slave cannot be faster than the master. One note as to the way to connect your devices. I have 2 disks both ATA100, 1 DVD and 1 CD-RW (both ATA33) In my former system I had the disks as masters on the 2 IDE channels and the DVD/CD as slaves. Now, due to cable length problems I have both disks on one channel and the same for DVD/CD. Copying between both disks is noticably slower (due to the fact that IDE can not address both drives at the same time). Before I had my partitions split , in a hopefully intelligent way, across both drives, this doesn't speed up my system now anymore. Christian -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Blank make.conf
Hi, My make.conf got blanked while running mirrorselect, has anyone got a copy of make.conf that I could have (and modify) or know somewhere where i could get one, cheers, Christopher Cormack BT Retail - CCC - Technology Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] British Telecommunications plc Registered office: 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no. 180 This electronic message contains information from British Telecommunications plc, which may be privileged and confidential. This information is intended to be for the use of the individual (s) or entity named above. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us by telephone or e-mail (to the number or address above) immediately. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb mass storage
Pupeno wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Friday 15 August 2003 04:35, Klaus-Uwe Kempa wrote: David H. Askew wrote: it wouldn't show up as /dev/sgX or something like that .. i'm not that familiar with the psuedo scsi stuff Check /etc/fstab. Ihave usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfsrw,devmode=0660,devgid=432 0 0 I don't have it in my vfat, but it still mounts it: # mount | grep usb none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) I think it does not mount because I get after #mount: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usbHD type vfat (rw,nodev,uid=1000,gid=105). Why do You not change fstab? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Blank make.conf
thanks, solved the problem by doing a emerge portage thanks :D, Chris -Original Message- From: Jose Gonzalez Gomez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2003 12:53 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Blank make.conf Hope this helps Regards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, My make.conf got blanked while running mirrorselect, has anyone got a copy of make.conf that I could have (and modify) or know somewhere where i could get one, cheers, Christopher Cormack BT Retail - CCC - Technology Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] British Telecommunications plc Registered office: 81 Newgate Street London EC1A 7AJ Registered in England no. 180 This electronic message contains information from British Telecommunications plc, which may be privileged and confidential. This information is intended to be for the use of the individual (s) or entity named above. If you have received this electronic message in error, please notify us by telephone or e-mail (to the number or address above) immediately. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Got running Nvidia Drivers on 2.6, but not bootsplash
hi, i have now my nvidia drivers running on the new 2.6 pre kernel :-) My framebuffer are also working, but has somebody patched successfull the kernel for bootsplash? cu denny - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Got running Nvidia Drivers on 2.6, but not bootsplash
I read somewhere that bootsplash will have to be mostly re-writen due to the changes in framebuffer support in 2.6 kernels, its gonna take a while, can't wait tho. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:32 pm, Denny Schierz wrote: hi, i have now my nvidia drivers running on the new 2.6 pre kernel :-) My framebuffer are also working, but has somebody patched successfull the kernel for bootsplash? cu denny - This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Control X mouse events?
Hi there, can someone tell me how to tell an X window manager not to process a particular input? I have an app that uses ALT-right mouse button for a major functionality, but it seems to be globally defined to resize a window. I was using Icewm, but cant see how to do it in there. I'm currently looking at Sawfish, as that seems very configurable, but I can't believe how much documentation there ISNT for Sawfish. I was told it is possible to do this with Sawfish. Failing that, anyone know of a Window Manager that this is possible in. I'd switch to just about anything at this point. cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] audacity problem
Has anyone managed to get audacity-1.1.3 working? I emerged it with USE=-gtk2 and it compiles, but it spills out error messages on opening. I searched the foruns and someone had the same problem (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=64480highlight=audacity) but got no replies... Moreover, the help system is broken (file audacity-help.htb doesn't exist). TIA, -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ant build succeeded, but...
On Tuesday 19 August 2003 4:03 am, Frederic Soulier wrote: !!! ERROR: dev-db/postgresql-7.3.4 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 93, Exitcode 1 !!! (no error message) This is a known bug (#22875). I have the same pbm. Thanks. -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
Hi, I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Thanks, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
etc-update Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi, I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Thanks, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
Hi Martin, thank you for the quick response. I am sorry if i was not clear. I think I know how to handle ._cfg* files. It is not the case, but say I 'rm ._cfg*', how do I get them back? I want to reconsider some changes. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:46, Martin Larsson wrote: etc-update Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi, I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Thanks, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
hmm, then I think you will have to reemerge the packages Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi Martin, thank you for the quick response. I am sorry if i was not clear. I think I know how to handle ._cfg* files. It is not the case, but say I 'rm ._cfg*', how do I get them back? I want to reconsider some changes. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:46, Martin Larsson wrote: etc-update Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi, I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Thanks, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: CONFIG_PROTECT=-* emerge -e world -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] converting AVIs to VCD format MPEGs
Is there a recommended program for converting a DivX AVI to a VCD-ready MPEG? There was a program I used long ago in conjunction with vcdimager, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was called. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: Nope, just re-inspect the changes. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
Lloyd D Budd wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: Nope, just re-inspect the changes. Like someone else already said, I think your only option is to re-emerge. *cringe* -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
Hi Brett. Thank you for the swift reply. You provide sicinct info. Unfortunately, I cannot info for the negative case. Do you know the answers to my specific questions? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, brett holcomb wrote: Most packages have many options that they can be configured and built with. However, not everyone needs or wants all of them. For example, I may not want to compile a package with arts options since I don't use KDE. In another distro we have to use flags on the configure command line like: configure --without-arts Since we don't do this directly in Gentoo this handled with the USE flag. The USE flag tells Gentoo what options to build the package with. For example if you have a package who has an option to build with xmms you can specify xmms in USE and the package will be built with xmms. It's like specifying --with-xmms on the configure line. Conversely, -xmms says do NOT configure with the xmms option. By default, if a flag is not unset (has - in front of it in the USE variable) it is considered set and the package is compiled with that option. As above since I don't use KDE I have -arts -qt -KDE in my USE variable. Please note that the USE flag only applies to optional components for a package. If a package must have xmms to run then it will be compiled with xmms no matter what your USE variable is. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:38:09 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am trying to better understand flags. I believe I have reviewed each of the related documents, but I am still not sure of the impact of -flag when in an ebuild? For example when I 'emerge -pv xfree' the output is: x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r3 [4.3.0-r2] -3dfx -sse -mmx -3dnow -xml2 +truetype +nls -cjk +doc -ipv6 -debug -static Does this mean that debug is not avialable? ie USE='debug' will have no possible effect. Or does this ean that I can optionally remove debug using USE='-debug'? Cheers, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
I tried that no? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:57, Martin Larsson wrote: hmm, then I think you will have to reemerge the packages Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi Martin, thank you for the quick response. I am sorry if i was not clear. I think I know how to handle ._cfg* files. It is not the case, but say I 'rm ._cfg*', how do I get them back? I want to reconsider some changes. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 09:46, Martin Larsson wrote: etc-update Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi, I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Thanks, Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Printing problems.
I have installed the latest cups, foomatic and gimp.print. When I print the printer test page it prints ok. printing from gimp is OK, but printing from ghostscript or from any other program are only producing two thin lines on the top of the page. Anyone have an idea why. I have a Canon BJC-6100 printer. (And yes, I hate it, but can't affor a new one) -- Sigurd Stordal President of GOGS Experimental Petrologist -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
It depends on the package. If the package supports debug as an option then debug enables it, -debug disables it. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett. Thank you for the swift reply. You provide sicinct info. Unfortunately, I cannot info for the negative case. Do you know the answers to my specific questions? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, brett holcomb wrote: Most packages have many options that they can be configured and built with. However, not everyone needs or wants all of them. For example, I may not want to compile a package with arts options since I don't use KDE. In another distro we have to use flags on the configure -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
Lloyd D Budd wrote: Like someone else already said, I think your only option is to re-emerge. *cringe* Which I did with 'emerge -e world' :-( That's why the *cringe* is there :) -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:17, brett holcomb wrote: It depends on the package. If the package supports debug as an option then debug enables it, -debug disables it. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett. Thank you for the swift reply. You provide sicinct info. Unfortunately, I cannot info for the negative case. Do you know the answers to my specific questions? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, brett holcomb wrote: Most packages have many options that they can be configured and built with. However, not everyone needs or wants all of them. For example, I may not want to compile a package with arts options since I don't use KDE. In another distro we have to use flags on the configure -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
I would have thought that it indicates the default value -Original Message- From: Lloyd D Budd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 21 August 2003 15:13 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:17, brett holcomb wrote: It depends on the package. If the package supports debug as an option then debug enables it, -debug disables it. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett. Thank you for the swift reply. You provide sicinct info. Unfortunately, I cannot info for the negative case. Do you know the answers to my specific questions? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, brett holcomb wrote: Most packages have many options that they can be configured and built with. However, not everyone needs or wants all of them. For example, I may not want to compile a package with arts options since I don't use KDE. In another distro we have to use flags on the configure -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] converting AVIs to VCD format MPEGs
On Thursday 21 August 2003 16:17, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Is there a recommended program for converting a DivX AVI to a VCD-ready MPEG? There was a program I used long ago in conjunction with vcdimager, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was called. Search for ripmake in the bug base, or you could also try the scripts attached here. divx2vcd/svcd/vcd. If you use ripmake then a lot of calculations are done automatically for you. You will need mplayer installed. -- Sigurd Stordal President of GOGS Experimental Petrologist divx2cvcd Description: application/shellscript divx2svcd Description: application/shellscript divx2vcd Description: application/shellscript -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Look, you DON'T want to play with NPTL if you are still struggling to meet dependencies. The ebuild gave you enough info for you to go off on your own and satisfy what it was asking for by manually unmasking some stuff, slotting it appropriately if it isn't already, etc etc etc. To play with glibc, you MUST be proficient in all-of-the-above, including portage, compilers, the kernel, patching (you must patch your 2.6 kernel), etc etc. You've demonstrated that you are not. Start smaller. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 03:39, Loic Domaigne wrote: Hi! The next point I'm eager to try is NPTL. I would like to have the latest version available, namely 0.55 (the v0.28 available with glibc-2.3.2-r1 is too buggy for me). For this, I need to install glibc-2.3.2-r3. How should I proceed? From my understanding, a simple emerge glibc won't do the trick, since the current (stable) package version is 2.3.2-r1. emerge /usr/portage/sys-libs/glibc/glibc-2.3.2-r3.ebuild I tried this yesterday already. I get the following error message: | !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-3.3-r1 | have been masked | | !!! (dependency required by sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3 [ebuild]) If I understood correctly, I need to install gcc-3.3-r1 first? (this is indeed required by nptl v0.55). Is it correct? My understanding was that emerge would take care about all dependencies, download eventually the new version required and compile it... But, it seems that I'm wrong... I have no problem to resolve all the dependencies manually, I'm just wondering if there is not a better way to proceed... Oh yes, an other question. What does mean ebuilds are masked? I saw already posts about the masking/unmasking thing, but I don't understand the underlying concept so far... TIA, Loic. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
On Thursday 21 August 2003 23:13, Lloyd D Budd wrote: (B Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (B (a) does this mean that debug is not available? (B or (B (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? (B (BNeither. "-debug" means that the package supports the debug flag but that it (Bis disabled with the current use flag settings. (B (BJason (B (B-- (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:44, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 23:13, Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? Neither. -debug means that the package supports the debug flag but that it is disabled with the current use flag settings. Thank you, I feel so enlightened! -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 09:13, Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? That means you do not currently have 'debug' in your USE flags, therefore the package will not be built with 'debug'. If you did USE=debug emerge -vp xfree, you would see the -debug changed to +debug. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ROyXXVaO67S1rtsRAtJxAKCQmIaSBezvGE+K2hqATyukBLE9bQCguFVY ewWqTFaulHiifH35TIj1geQ= =KnXC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP
Jason Nielsen wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003, daniel wrote: On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote: I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can. Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp. I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated. Try this: 1) Pull the HD from your old system and shove it in your new one. 2) Fire up your new system with the Gentoo install CD 3) Mount your old partitions under /mnt/gentoo say 4) make a chroot jail like you do when installing .. at which point, the new Athlon system starts using the P3-optimised binaries, and if they don't work, starts segfaulting. You might as well just boot the system directly on the new hardware (compile yourself another kernel first ;P ). 5) modify make.conf to your liking (athlon-xp CFLAGS and new USE stuff) 6) emerge -ueD world 7) when finished unmount the chroot jail 8) Rebood to your new system. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] converting AVIs to VCD format MPEGs
Sigurd Stordal wrote: On Thursday 21 August 2003 16:17, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Is there a recommended program for converting a DivX AVI to a VCD-ready MPEG? There was a program I used long ago in conjunction with vcdimager, but I can't remember for the life of me what it was called. Search for ripmake in the bug base, or you could also try the scripts attached here. divx2vcd/svcd/vcd. If you use ripmake then a lot of calculations are done automatically for you. You will need mplayer installed. I found a program called kavi2svcd. There is no ebuild for it, so I created a quick n' dirty one. I'll clean up the ebuild and submit it to bugzilla. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem starting firebird
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:09:40 +
Daniel Harik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hello guys,
i've justed emerged mozilla-firebird-bin
when i goto /opt/MozillaFirebird/
and run:
./MozillaFirebird-bin
i get this:
./MozillaFirebird-bin: relocation error: ./MozillaFirebird-bin:
undefined symbol: __new_handler
It seams to happen to Sunbird and Thunderbird as well, is there any
possible way to fix it?
MozillaFirebird-bin is not the executable you want. You need to
execute ./MozillaFirebird. Somewhere along the way MozillaFirebird-bin
gets executed, but not directly by you.
FYI, here's my (freely stolen a long time ago) script to execute
MozillaFirebird. I like to keep one and one only copy of MozillaFirebird
running. Change to HOME and PATH variables and make this executable in
one of your $PATH libraries.
#!/bin/sh
export MOZILLA_FIVE_HOME=/opt/MozillaFirebird
MOZILLA_PATH=/opt/MozillaFirebird
# Seems like pidof resides in /sbin on some boxes
# Modifying the PATH to reflect that
PATH=/sbin:${PATH}
if [ -z `pidof MozillaFirebird-bin` ]; then
# No MozillaFirebird running
${MOZILLA_PATH}/MozillaFirebird $@
else
# MozillaFirebird running - open a new window
${MOZILLA_PATH}/MozillaFirebird -remote openURL($@ ,new-tab)
fi
Good luck.
--
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worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:41:29 -0500 Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look, you DON'T want to play with NPTL if you are still struggling to meet dependencies. The ebuild gave you enough info for you to go off on your own and satisfy what it was asking for by manually unmasking some stuff, slotting it appropriately if it isn't already, etc etc etc. To play with glibc, you MUST be proficient in all-of-the-above, including portage, compilers, the kernel, patching (you must patch your 2.6 kernel), etc etc. You've demonstrated that you are not. Start smaller. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 03:39, Loic Domaigne wrote: I tried this yesterday already. I get the following error message: | !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =sys-devel/gcc-3.3-r1 | have been masked | | !!! (dependency required by sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3 [ebuild]) If I understood correctly, I need to install gcc-3.3-r1 first? (this is indeed required by nptl v0.55). Is it correct? My understanding was that emerge would take care about all dependencies, download eventually the new version required and compile it... But, it seems that I'm wrong... Quick answer. If you emerge generic-package-name, portage finds the appropriate version and all dependancies. If you emerge specific- package-name, you are responsible for finding any dependancies that can't be met automatically and resolving them yourself. If looks like the package you are trying to emerge has a dependancy that is still masked, so you need to unmask and emerge that dependancy first. As the other poster said, do you really want to do this? You are getting into an area of experimentation where even some experts may not choose to tread. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 09:10:38 -0500 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: CONFIG_PROTECT=-* emerge -e world Whoa, baby! Not a good thing (TM). If you emerge something that updates fstab, passwd, group, etc., you are DOA. Never do this! -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] converting AVIs to VCD format MPEGs
Andrew Gaffney wrote: I found a program called kavi2svcd. There is no ebuild for it, so I created a quick n' dirty one. I'll clean up the ebuild and submit it to bugzilla. If anyone is interested, I submitted a *rough* ebuild[1] to bugzilla. This is the first ebuild I've created so please don't yell if it doesn't work :) I installed it with an empty DEPEND and then filled it in afterwards. [1] http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=23398 -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing problems.
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:17:00 +0200 Sigurd Stordal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the latest cups, foomatic and gimp.print. When I print the printer test page it prints ok. printing from gimp is OK, but printing from ghostscript or from any other program are only producing two thin lines on the top of the page. Anyone have an idea why. I have a Canon BJC-6100 printer. (And yes, I hate it, but can't affor a new one) A common cause of this problem is emerging ghostscript without USE=cups in effect. Cups has screwed around with ghostscript and can no longer use it without cups-supplied options. Try emerging ghostscript again. -- Collins Richey - Denver Area if you fill your heart with regrets of yesterday and the worries of tomorrow, you have no today to be thankful for. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] dev-db/firebird-1.0.3 - Please test
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, dev-db/firebird is going to to marked as stable soon. I've sent a message asking to test it several weeks ago, got almost no replies. Here's the message again, please test and report success/failure: Please help testing the new ebuild for dev/db-firebird. It's currently marked as ~x86, so make sure to have it in ACCEPT_KEYWORDS. This ebuild should close bugs #15071 and #16237. It features the following changes: - - Kills lingering gds_lock_mgr processes left after emerging (#15071) - - latest stable firebird release - 1.0.3.972 (#16237) - - firebird placed under /etc/xinet.d (disabled by default) - - 70firebird placed under env.d to add PATH, ROOT_PATH and CONFIG_PROTECT - - config function to add gds_db to /etc/services - - isc4.gdb and isc_config moved to /etc/firebird and symlinks to them under /opt/interbase added. This will prevent fututre emerges from overwriting the passwords db (which is the current situation). Right now it is just for the classic (i.e: inet) server. The super (i.e.: standalone daemon) will be added hopefully soon. Please backup your current isc4.gdb if you have any and move it to /opt/firebird after emerge. Cheers - -- Meir Kriheli MKsoft systems http://www.mksoft.co.il -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RRYBRkS5DWK1mZkRAixDAJ0XZkBFDBWgfrV2O8xrMwXaH8vVowCggWJm 772nGtVE+XdfHuagtQyuVGE= =7k+2 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] audacity problem
Jorge Almeida wrote: Has anyone managed to get audacity-1.1.3 working? I emerged it with USE=-gtk2 and it compiles, but it spills out error messages on opening. I searched the foruns and someone had the same problem (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=64480highlight=audacity) but got no replies... Moreover, the help system is broken (file audacity-help.htb doesn't exist). TIA, -- Jorge Almeida I don't have it in front of me, but I believe I have Audacity 1.1.3 working. I run straight KDE and QT, though, not GTK and Gnome. With a broken help, I'd suggest a re-install of audacity to see if that clears up some of your problems. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
It depends - if the package you are installing knows about a debug option then it will use it, if you do -debug you tell it not to compile in the stuff for debug. It's package dependent, not Gentoo. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:13:21 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:17, brett holcomb wrote: It depends on the package. If the package supports debug as an option then debug enables it, -debug disables it. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:02:11 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Brett. Thank you for the swift reply. You provide sicinct info. Unfortunately, I cannot info for the negative case. Do you know the answers to my specific questions? On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, brett holcomb wrote: Most packages have many options that they can be configured and built with. However, not everyone needs or wants all of them. For example, I may not want to compile a package with arts options since I don't use KDE. In another distro we have to use flags on the configure -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
Aren't use flags defaulted to on so that if the package knows about debug and you don't explicitly say -debug then it will include the debug option. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 11:00:21 -0500 donnie berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 09:13, Lloyd D Budd wrote: Hi Brett, So if a package has '-debug' then (a) does this mean that debug is not available? or (b) does this mean that I can optionally remove debug? That means you do not currently have 'debug' in your USE flags, therefore the package will not be built with 'debug'. If you did USE=debug emerge -vp xfree, you would see the -debug changed to +debug. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/ROyXXVaO67S1rtsRAtJxAKCQmIaSBezvGE+K2hqATyukBLE9bQCguFVY ewWqTFaulHiifH35TIj1geQ= =KnXC -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:51, brett holcomb wrote: Aren't use flags defaulted to on so that if the package knows about debug and you don't explicitly say -debug then it will include the debug option. Apparently not... at least not on ppc. Do some default to on? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] audacity problem
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: Has anyone managed to get audacity-1.1.3 working? I emerged it with USE=-gtk2 and it compiles, but it spills out error messages on opening. I searched the foruns and someone had the same problem (http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=64480highlight=audacity) but got no replies... Moreover, the help system is broken (file audacity-help.htb doesn't exist). TIA, -- Jorge Almeida I don't have it in front of me, but I believe I have Audacity 1.1.3 working. I run straight KDE and QT, though, not GTK and Gnome. With a broken help, I'd suggest a re-install of audacity to see if that clears up some of your problems. Nope. I also run KDE, and I installed audacity twice before posting. I tried again with CFLAGS=-O2 and it didn't get better... Maybe something to do with drivers or something like that (but how is one supposed to know?). I use alsa. Thanks anyway. -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb mass storage
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 08:23, Klaus-Uwe Kempa wrote: I don't have it in my vfat, but it still mounts it: Here I meant fstab, not vfat (this problem really got my nerves ;) # mount | grep usb none on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) I think it does not mount because I get after #mount: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usbHD type vfat (rw,nodev,uid=1000,gid=105). Why do You not change fstab? Do you mean that the fact that mine says none where yours says usbfs makes mine not work and that adding the fstab line would solve it ? I'll try it then. Thank you. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.kde.org - --- Help the hungry children of Argentina, please go to (and make it your homepage): http://www.porloschicos.com/servlet/PorLosChicos?comando=donar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RNMvLr8z5XzmSDQRAqqTAKC0otWTonvyB1/Kkq53DNprmFqaGgCg0/Ms gLB+wsKUqZqlcKVF8YhYZdk= =UQXB -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb mass storage
Pupeno wrote: usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/usbHD type vfat (rw,nodev,uid=1000,gid=105). Why do You not change fstab? Do you mean that the fact that mine says none where yours says usbfs makes mine not work and that adding the fstab line would solve it ? I'll try it then. Thank you. With virtual filesystems like devfs, usbfs, etc., the device to mount does not matter. I believe it just ignores it completely. I always use 'none' as the device to mount so as not to confuse it with the fs type is the fstab. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] audacity problem
Jorge, Nope. I also run KDE, and I installed audacity twice before posting. I tried again with CFLAGS=-O2 and it didn't get better... Maybe something to do with drivers or something like that (but how is one supposed to know?). I use alsa. Thanks anyway. -- Jorge Almeida Hmm. One of my Audacity installations is on a SuSE system. The other is a Gentoo PPC. Both have worked well for recording, although the sound on the SuSE system isn't set up right so it has a warble to it when played on *that* system, but .mp3 files created there work when played on any other system. Somewhere in my hazy memory (getting old stinks) I seem to recall debugging some compile option problems on the PC system, but it has been more than a year and I'm not clear on what they were. Some dependency that was weird... Sorry I can't be more helpful. Have you asked the Audacity list? In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hi Collins! Quick answer. If you emerge generic-package-name, portage finds the appropriate version and all dependancies. If you emerge specific- package-name, you are responsible for finding any dependancies that can't be met automatically and resolving them yourself. If looks like the package you are trying to emerge has a dependancy that is still masked, so you need to unmask and emerge that dependancy first. Thanks, that's what I wanted to know!!! I'll search about this unmask concept. Of course, if someone has some links, they would be appreciated ;-) As the other poster said, do you really want to do this? Sure! See my previous reply! You are getting into an area of experimentation where even some experts may not choose to tread. You know... to be an expert doesn't say much... Regards, Loic. ~~ An expert is someone who spends their life/career learning more and more about less and less until they know absolutely everything about nothing at all. ~~ -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:24, Loic Domaigne wrote:
Thanks for your reply!
You're welcome. ;)
Ok, I'm a newbie in Gentoo. Right. I don't know how work the
ebuild process, and AFAIK there is no document explaining how it
works in all extend. That's what I'm missing.
The docs section of gentoo.org is huge. Portage docs are there too.
To play with glibc, you MUST be proficient in all-of-the-above,
including portage, compilers, the kernel, patching (you must patch
your 2.6 kernel), etc etc. You've demonstrated that you are not.
A stupid question? How Does someone become proficient?
By starting smaller, like by breaking gnome with the ebuilds from
breakmygentoo. Search the desktop forum.
Don't you thing that at a given point, he has to give a try?
Not necessarily, but you need to start smaller.
And make mistakes? And learn from that mistakes?
Don't worry, there are opportunities to make SMALLER mistakes.
Until he slowly performs better and better. And utimatively
become proficient?
See above.
Don't you think that Every Guru was first a beginner?
I'm a ten year veteran of Linux/BSD/Windows/name your OS, but
spent considerable time playing with gentoo before playing with
glibc ebuilds. How do you expect to recover from a glibc failure?
(I don't know if you ever learn a foreign language for instance.
But if you want to master another language, that's definitively
the way to proceed).
I once knew German. The difference is I didn't kill myself when I
used broken grammar.
I choose to try Gentoo for 2 reasons:
1- First, I want to evaluate this distro for business proposes
(which means among other things, getting a stable OS version etc.)
So, for this case, yes I definitively agree with you. Actually, I built
a version using much of the stable released offered by Gentoo
(Ok, I just put some optimization flags in the CFLAGS to improve
the code on the machine I'm running).
Gentoo is great, but YMMV due to your needs being different.
2- Second, I want to evaluate Gentoo for hacker purposes
(i.e. my private use). It's clear that I'm willing to try every dangerous
things. I don't see why I shouldn't?
Because we don't want to hold hands with someone doing the hard stuff
before they learn how not to shoot themselves in the foot. If you want
to hack, learn the following:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
my $problem=$ARGV[0];
while (defined($problem)) {
if (solve_my_own($problem)) {
print Yippie!\n;
} else {
search_forums_for($problem);
search_mail_archives_for($problem);
try_again_to_solve_my_own($problem);
post_to_forums_about($problem);
email_list_about($problem);
}
}
First I need NPTL to answer the questions related to this implementation
on c.p.t. Second, I'm bored of LinuxThreads, because I master it
(as 'simple' user + internal). Third, I have fun in learning new things.
And forth - I will probably get flammed for this one - Linux is _not_
the BEST Unix technology available on the market... But, fact is that
I'm *LOVING* this OS.
Best is subjective, and subject to ones needs. There are things Linux does
better, etc etc.
Are you saying that I'm simply just too stupid to use Gentoo and that
I should switch to RH instead? Which could be, everyone has a
limit after all!
I'm saying you haven't exhausted your resources, and you should learn to
walk before yadda yadda...
Or maybe it's not the right mailing list to discuss such a topic like
NPTL v0.55 ???
There are forum threads about it. Happy searching.
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Loic Domaigne wrote: Ok, I'm a newbie in Gentoo. Right. I don't know how work the ebuild process, and AFAIK there is no document explaining how it works in all extend. That's what I'm missing. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-user.xml http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/portage-manual.xml http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33534 These three should get you started. Cheers Ulrich Plate pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Going from P3 to Athlon XP (fwd)
On Wed, 2003-08-20 at 08:56, stephen wrote: I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can. Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp. I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated. Try this: 1) Pull the HD from your old system and shove it in your new one. 2) Fire up your new system with the Gentoo install CD 3) Mount your old partitions under /mnt/gentoo say 4) make a chroot jail like you do when installing .. at which point, the new Athlon system starts using the P3-optimised binaries, and if they don't work, starts segfaulting. You might as well just boot the system directly on the new hardware (compile yourself another kernel first ;P ). 5) modify make.conf to your liking (athlon-xp CFLAGS and new USE stuff) 6) emerge -ueD world 7) when finished unmount the chroot jail 8) Rebood to your new system. Ah yes I suppose that is true... at Step 4 then you need to untar a stage-1 1.4 tarball for Athlon-xp under /mnt/gentoo. First, see what will get over-written but I doubt anything that won't be getting wacked soon so no problem... also make a backup of /mnt/gentoo/etc, say /mnt/gentoo/etc2. Then follow on with instructions this also has the nice effect that all will be compiled with a Athlon-xp comipiled GCC... just like as if you did a bootstrap. You won't need to compile a new kernel as you are still using the Gentoo 1.4 CD kernel. Does that work better for you MAL ;-P! Cheers, Jason -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hi!
The docs section of gentoo.org is huge. Portage docs are there too.
I was probably getting tired yesterday in searching accross the web..
I missed the Portage Manual (I read the Portage User Guide, though).
Your mail invited me to look at the gentoo.org more closely.
Thanks!
A stupid question? How Does someone become proficient?
By starting smaller, like by breaking gnome with the ebuilds from
breakmygentoo. Search the desktop forum.
Yes... That's a good advice!
But the question is: Do I want to follow it ? ;-)
Don't you thing that at a given point, he has to give a try?
Not necessarily, but you need to start smaller.
You are right... I think, I will start playing with the ebuild first.
And when I'm confident enough, I will try that bigger jump
called glibc.
Actually, I have already tailored my own glibc on another system.
So, I'm not a newbie in this regard.
How do you expect to recover from a glibc failure?
Well, in the worse case you have to re-install everything from
scratch. But that's something I'm familiar with. I worked formerly
in a company where the hardware we were getting was still at
'development stage' (IOW totally buggy).
Did you ever try to get a stable system running on a buggy
Hardware? That's a really funny...
In one of my system, I have two set of glibcs: the official, and
my customized version. I use a symlink to switch between both.
But I'm not sure that this solution is feasible with the current glibc...
I'll look at the source, and check the dependencies against NPTL.
(As of LinuxThreads, there is a relatively clean seperation between
glibc and llibpthread. I don't know if it's still hold). Even if it's OK,
I'm not sure this fit with the Gentoo ebuild process...
Alternatively, I could probably set-up several partitions, so that
I'm sure to boot at least a stable version, even if things got
definitively broken for the experimental one. I have to investigate
this more closely.
I once knew German. The difference is I didn't kill myself when I
used broken grammar.
Oh... Killing software is not really a problem. That's sometimes
means spending hours in re-installing all the things, but not more.
Killing Hardware, that's more problematic ;-) Did you ever kill
Hardware?.
Gentoo is great, but YMMV due to your needs being different.
Agree!
Because we don't want to hold hands with someone doing the hard stuff
before they learn how not to shoot themselves in the foot. If you want
to hack, learn the following:
#!/usr/bin/perl -w
my $problem=$ARGV[0];
while (defined($problem)) {
if (solve_my_own($problem)) {
print Yippie!\n;
} else {
search_forums_for($problem);
search_mail_archives_for($problem);
try_again_to_solve_my_own($problem);
post_to_forums_about($problem);
email_list_about($problem);
}
}
I usually follow your Algo (my version is written
in FP language, though ;-). As I said before, I was
probably tired in searching without much success
so that I missed some important links :-(
Best is subjective, and subject to ones needs. There are things Linux does
better, etc etc.
Agree.
Are you saying that I'm simply just too stupid to use Gentoo and that
I should switch to RH instead? Which could be, everyone has a
limit after all!
I'm saying you haven't exhausted your resources, and you should learn to
walk before yadda yadda...
Yup!
Or maybe it's not the right mailing list to discuss such a topic like
NPTL v0.55 ???
There are forum threads about it. Happy searching.
Many thanks!
I'm really getting a positive feeling about the Gentoo's
community!
Loic.
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Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:56, Lloyd D Budd wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:51, brett holcomb wrote: Aren't use flags defaulted to on so that if the package knows about debug and you don't explicitly say -debug then it will include the debug option. Apparently not... at least not on ppc. Do some default to on? No, not all USE flags default to on. Take a look at /etc/make.profile/use.defaults to see what a system starts out with. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RSBKXVaO67S1rtsRAgOJAJ9SfDjyAR59wcd5X4ipXP5W6dX6LgCgyYgB d24SK7EtuW00UlpA8gJs8JU= =ef/n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Correct way of installing PCMCIA?
Try this tutorial, it helped me get my wpc11 working http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=26716highlight=wpc11sid=c03023ac8e8abde7472cbd0e41f1aa01 Tom -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE
Hello, If I write USE=kde in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed. If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't need the optional support. Correct? But what does USE=-kde means I found one sentence about it in the documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not writing kde. Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does `-kde` in a package means. I use the term kde in a package to refer to the answer I get from emerge -pv package Thanks, Yuval Scharf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] audacity problem
Jorge Almeida wrote: Maybe the help problem lies in some fault with the ebuild (I don't have the skills to check this kind of thing). Perhaps someone who have it installed in a PC will reply. As to the rest, can you tell me what sound server do you use? aRts? I wouldn't be surprised if I'm doing something wrong regarding the global sound setup, it's not easy to get information about such things. Regards, -- Jorge Almeida I'd be surprised if it was the ebuild, although it is possible. My Mac version is Gentoo on a powerbook, and I really don't remember what the sound driver is, but it just workedTM. This was done from the PPC ebuild, so it should be the same code and almost the same ebuild. The PC version was done on a SuSE automatic install, so again I don't know what the sound was, but I believe it is an old SoundBlaster. In Harmony's Way, and In A Chord, Tom :-}) Thomas A. Condon Barbershop Bass Singer Registered Linux User #154358 Interfere not in the business of Dragons, For you are crunchy when flamed and taste good. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE
Hello Adam, I think that in the last part of your e-mail you wrote something wrong. I found out (please correct me if I'm wrong) that emerge -pv package gives you the status of your USE words that the package cares about. Apparently this status is gathered in for different places. Yuval Scharf On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Adam Scriven wrote: On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 09:51:59PM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote: If I write USE=kde in /etc/make.conf it means that if I emerge a package with KDE optional KDE support the support should be installed. Correct. If I don't add kde to USE it means that I'm indifferent to kde so I don't need the optional support. Correct? No. Not having kde in your USE means you are accepting the defaults, whether that be ON or OFF. But what does USE=-kde means I found one sentence about it in the documentation and I can't understand the difference between -kde and not writing kde. Putting -kde means you are explicitly stating you DO NOT want KDE support, no matter what the default is. That is how Gentoo gets around people changing the make.defaults file, which is where these defaults are stored. Similarly, If a package has `kde` in it, it has optional support and if it doesn't have `kde` in it, it is indifferent to KDE. But what does `-kde` in a package means. I use the term kde in a package to refer to the answer I get from emerge -pv package I'm not 100% sure about this, I believe it's the same thing as the USE flags, just for packages specifically and not for the entire system. So, you could want KDE generally, but NOT for a specific package, so when you emerge that specific package you USE=-kde emerge Package first. I think.I'm pretty new to this Gentoo stuff myself, but I think I'm slowly getting the hang of it. Hope this helps(and I'm right!) Adam -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:46, Shawn wrote: Don't you think that Every Guru was first a beginner? I'm a ten year veteran of Linux/BSD/Windows/name your OS, but spent considerable time playing with gentoo before playing with glibc ebuilds. How do you expect to recover from a glibc failure? I just wanted to say, this isn't very hard to be honest. I had some problems with mine (after the system had been running for about 6 months). I know what caused the problems (me). I was able to correct it by shoving in a 3 stages cd and chrooting and remerge, I think. It was something like that. But the process took maybe a half hour. Christopher In 1968 it took the computing power of 2 C-64's to fly a rocket to the moon. Now, in 1998 it takes the Power of a Pentium 200 to run Microsoft Windows 95. Something must have gone wrong. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hello, Can someone describe in a few sentences why it is so dangerous to install a newer version of glibc. And also what is the gain from getting NPTL? Do you think it improves performance very much? When is it suppose to be part of the stable version? Thanks, Yuval Scharf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] circular dependencies
I was doing a round of package cleaning and noticed something odd: upstairs root # qpkg -q -I kdebase kde-base/kdebase-3.1.2 * DEPENDED ON BY: app-cdr/k3b-0.9 x11-libs/qt-3.1.2-r4 upstairs root # qpkg -q -I qt x11-libs/qt-3.1.2-r4 * DEPENDED ON BY: app-cdr/arson-0.9.7-r3 app-cdr/k3b-0.9 kde-base/arts-1.1.3 kde-base/kdebase-3.1.2 media-video/avifile-0.7.38.20030710 Qt depends on kdebase, but kdebase depends on qt?! WTF? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Idle time
Hi, I having a tiny problem with the idle time being ridiculously large in the output of my 'w' command. For example: $ w 14:01:45 up 5 days, 13:18, 12 users, load average: 1.25, 1.21, 1.18 USER TTY LOGIN@ IDLE JCPU PCPU WHAT root vc/1 11Aug03 15:38m 0.39s 0.39s -bash roberts vc/2 Mon16 15:38m 10.68s 0.00s /bin/sh /usr/X11R6/bin/startx roberts vc/3 Wed19 15:38m 0.03s 0.03s -bash roberts pts/0 Wed23 0.00s 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/2 Tue11 0.00s 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/3 11:49 12285days 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/4 Wed22 0.00s 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/5 10:22 12285days 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/7 Wed23 12285days 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal roberts pts/6 Wed09 30.00s 7.58s 7.54s ssh flare roberts pts/8 11:46 12285days 0.00s 5:36 gnome-terminal Any suggestions? Mike
RE: [gentoo-user] audacity problem
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003, Condon Thomas A KPWA wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: Maybe the help problem lies in some fault with the ebuild (I don't have the skills to check this kind of thing). Perhaps someone who have it installed in a PC will reply. As to the rest, can you tell me what sound server do you use? aRts? I wouldn't be surprised if I'm doing something wrong regarding the global sound setup, it's not easy to get information about such things. Regards, -- Jorge Almeida I'd be surprised if it was the ebuild, although it is possible. My Mac version is Gentoo on a powerbook, and I really don't remember what the sound driver is, but it just workedTM. This was done from the PPC ebuild, so it should be the same code and almost the same ebuild. The PC version was done on a SuSE automatic install, so again I don't know what the sound was, but I believe it is an old SoundBlaster. I was asking about your sound server, not soundcard (mine is a SoundBlaster too). Since you use KDE, it's probably aRts; maybe it's not that important, since too many things are different in a powerbook :) Thanks again, Tom. -- Jorge Almeida -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT: Apache2 Configuration Questions
Hi, These questions are probably slightly off-topic, as they're not uniquely relevant to Gentoo as a distro, but I know how helpful knowledgeable my fiends here are, and how long the Apache documentation is, so I thought I'd throw these questions to the floor and see if anyone has any quick tips. I've used Apache before, and found it easy to install simple webpages sites under it, but I have not really dug much deeper than that. Following instructions at Gentoo.org I have installed Squirrelmail that works fine - those instructions took care of the php ssl stuff for me. I have recently got global DNS sorted for my LAN: I got a free subdomain of eu.org, and used Bind on my server to host the DNS entries (free secondary DNS from GraniteCanyon.com). So now the server in my airing cupboard is addressable as stroller.uk.eu.org. It is also addressable as www.stroller.uk.eu.org foo.bar.uk.eu.org anything-you-like-as-long-as-it-is-not-a-valid-hostname-on-my- lan.stroller.uk.eu.org. All my files are in /home/httpd/htdocs/somedirectory My first question is: is it possible to have apache return requests for stuff.stroller.uk.eu.org with /home/httpd/htdocs/stuff/index.html ? Is it possible to do this automagically for all foo.stroller.uk.eu.org bar.stroller.uk.eu.org grunt.stroller.uk.eu.org ?? Secondly: is it possible to redirect http://mail.stroller.uk.eu.org to https://mail.stroller.uk.eu.org to ensure encryption..? (Actually, I'm sure the answer to both of these is yes, so the real questions are how do I do these things?;-]) Previous installations of Apache that I have had, have allowed me to browse to myserver.com/somedir/ and see a list of files to click on download (or click on view in the browser in the case off pictures) if there is no index.html in that directory. On my default Gentoo installation of Apache2 I get the message Forbidden - You don't have permission to access /somedir/ on this server. How can I change this behavior..? I think it is best to enable directory contents listings on a per-directory basis. I've had problems with files with spaces in the names in the past before - when clicking on the link in the directory listing it the file won't download. IIRC this is something to do with the space character and %20. Can anyone tell me about this..? Finally, it's be kinda handy to arrange my webpages on a template basis: if Apache finds no index.html but does find content.txt it should dynamically create display a page from cat'ting some predefined head.html with content.txt and a predefined tail.html. I believe that Apache's server-side includes does this. Is that correct, or am I much confused..? Does anyone have any pointers to suitable tutorials, or any helpful advice on this..? Many thanks for comments - I'm not (just) trying to skip my homework, but hopefully inviting discussion from the wise heads around here who can demonstrate their superior knowledge. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Going from P3 to Athlon XP
On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:06, Dave I wrote: On Wed, 20 Aug 2003 07:56:32 -0500, stephen wrote: =) I'm replacing my P3 850/Asus CUV4X with an Athlon 2700+/Asus A7N8X-X, but =) would like to keep my gentoo intact as much as I can. =) =) Currently I use CFLAGS=-march=pentium3 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer and =) have things like mmx and sse in my USE flags (should I take those out and use =) 3dnow instead?). I also use LVM with vgroups for usr, usr/local, var and tmp. =) =) I wonder if this will even boot now. Can anyone give me some hints about the =) best way to make the transition? Any help appreciated. =) For what it's worth, my -march=athlon-xp -O2 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer HD booted on a P4 machine, didnt play with it though because it was just accidental that it booted from that HD. I recall that some time ago I tried to recompile huge program on P3 machine with march=athlon-xp (just to see how it'll behave) and after that I was able to run it w/o any problems. How this could happen? -- WinErr: 678 This was the last level in Windows. Do you want to play another game? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A beginner question about USE
On Thu, Aug 21, 2003 at 10:20:01PM +0300, Scharf Yuval wrote: I think that in the last part of your e-mail you wrote something wrong. I found out (please correct me if I'm wrong) that emerge -pv package gives you the status of your USE words that the package cares about. Yup, you're right, sorry about that. Adam -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue
USE=apache2 emerge mod_php -Original Message- From: Greg Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 2:31 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue I emerged mod_php and apache2, but can't seem to get mod_php working. I found some posts on the Gentoo forums that say to uncomment APACHE_OPTS=-D PHP4 in /etc/conf.d/apache2 but I don't see it there to uncomment it. I tried just adding it but got errors on restart. Can someone send me a url for apache2 + mod_php ? Thanks, -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hi, NPTL is not dangerous, is the next step on kernel generation. Now take a look on this article: http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/technicalArticles/JavaTechandLinux/RedHat/ Regards, Luis Morales Scharf Yuval wrote: Hello, Can someone describe in a few sentences why it is so dangerous to install a newer version of glibc. And also what is the gain from getting NPTL? Do you think it improves performance very much? When is it suppose to be part of the stable version? Thanks, Yuval Scharf -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Control X mouse events?
Jonathan Kelly wrote: Hi there, can someone tell me how to tell an X window manager not to process a particular input? I have an app that uses ALT-right mouse button for a major functionality, but it seems to be globally defined to resize a window. I was using Icewm, but cant see how to do it in there. I'm currently looking at Sawfish, as that seems very configurable, but I can't believe how much documentation there ISNT for Sawfish. I was told it is possible to do this with Sawfish. Failing that, anyone know of a Window Manager that this is possible in. I'd switch to just about anything at this point. cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Have a look at openbox or blackbox ( they have no keybinding without epist or bbkeys) or enlightenment (very configurable) with e16keyedit and e16menuedit. Kenneth -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue
USE=apache2 emerge mod_php Great, but where is this documented? I hate asking questions if I can read some docs first. I'm sure I must have just overlooked the docs for this. -- Greg Donald http://destiney.com/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] pkg -flag
I thought the docs stated they default to on - it's been a while since I've read them. On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:56:02 -0400 Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 12:51, brett holcomb wrote: Aren't use flags defaulted to on so that if the package knows about debug and you don't explicitly say -debug then it will include the debug option. Apparently not... at least not on ppc. Do some default to on? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
begin quote On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:25:17 +0300 (IDT) Scharf Yuval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Can someone describe in a few sentences why it is so dangerous to install a newer version of glibc. And also what is the gain from getting NPTL? Do you think it improves performance very much? When is it suppose to be part of the stable version? nptl 0.55 is in a KEYWORDS=-* masked version of glibc it needs kernel 2.5* (preferrably 2.6 to build) 2.6 is testing, bloody edge and prone to do weird things at times if you downgrade to 2.4 you get error, tried to kill init. kernel panic messages. Generally, it worked. until my harddrive died. then the machine didn't work anymore. :( //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
I can tell who lived through the a.out - ELF transition... *BSD waited quite a while longer than Linux. Or even libc5 - glibc... Or even other ABI breakage!!! On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 16:22, Spider wrote: begin quote On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:25:17 +0300 (IDT) Scharf Yuval [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Can someone describe in a few sentences why it is so dangerous to install a newer version of glibc. And also what is the gain from getting NPTL? Do you think it improves performance very much? When is it suppose to be part of the stable version? nptl 0.55 is in a KEYWORDS=-* masked version of glibc it needs kernel 2.5* (preferrably 2.6 to build) 2.6 is testing, bloody edge and prone to do weird things at times if you downgrade to 2.4 you get error, tried to kill init. kernel panic messages. Generally, it worked. until my harddrive died. then the machine didn't work anymore. :( //Spider -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
begin quote On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell who lived through the a.out - ELF transition... *BSD waited quite a while longer than Linux. Or even libc5 - glibc... Or even other ABI breakage!!! parts of it I've done (libc5-glibc) gcc 2.95- 3 and so on. it hurts. especially in systems with less package management than Gentoo has.. (LFS) But still, its never fun to be locked down with only a partially broken kernel and a system that wont run without it. //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 23:40, Spider wrote: begin quote On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell who lived through the a.out - ELF transition... *BSD waited quite a while longer than Linux. Or even libc5 - glibc... Or even other ABI breakage!!! parts of it I've done (libc5-glibc) gcc 2.95- 3 and so on. it hurts. especially in systems with less package management than Gentoo has.. (LFS) But still, its never fun to be locked down with only a partially broken kernel and a system that wont run without it. I do not know if I am just lucky, but late 2.5's and now 2.6's runs fine for me (ok, so I usually only use -bk's, and I keep an eye on LKML for patches ... ). Anyhow, the transition *should* be smooth (after getting 2.6 to run - there are a few catches on first configures for it, and remembering to install module-init-tools, etc). I do not know for kde, but gnome works fine, and just one or two stuff need some major updates (valgrind for one). I have been using nptl since nov/dec last year, and in general most of the major issues have been solved - I would however recommend to use the latest gcc/glibc/binutils (3.3.1, 2.3.2-r3 and .5-r1) though, with preferably a 2.6.0-test3-bk2/3+ kernel I think, as that fixes a slight issue with child threads (the kernel). Regards, -- Martin Schlemmer Gentoo Linux Developer, Desktop/System Team Developer Cape Town, South Africa signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] mod_php issue
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 21 August 2003 8:58 pm, Greg Donald wrote: USE=apache2 emerge mod_php Great, but where is this documented? to be fair, I dont think its documented. More 'heavily implied' mixed with a little Gentoo experience emergeing mod_php without apache2 in your USE flags, will cause [AFAIK] it to be compiled as if its to be used with apache 1.3.x . As apache2 is now one of the available use flags, as listed at http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml then portage will compile mod_php for use with apache2. I hate asking questions if I can read some docs first. I'm sure I must have just overlooked the docs for this. heh im the same :P - -- Mark -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/RVBKzrmqzOOQUj8RAmWKAJ4mXdwrsK+FhTaCuBu2QJqPoVggEQCgqOM5 Gi4b9X3xdyTgkHplof7Gtns= =CSB3 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Did you ever try to get a stable system running on a buggy Hardware? That's a really funny... So funny I split some knuckle skin on the stupid machine! I see... In one of my system, I have two set of glibcs: the official, and my customized version. I use a symlink to switch between both. But I'm not sure that this solution is feasible with the current glibc... I'll look at the source, and check the dependencies against NPTL. (As of LinuxThreads, there is a relatively clean seperation between glibc and llibpthread. I don't know if it's still hold). Even if it's OK, I'm not sure this fit with the Gentoo ebuild process... Be aware that things like nvidia-glx need re-emerging to select the right thread model. Yes, I knew this already. I believe, mozilla is another candidate to the re-emerging... (I don't have a nvidia card BTW). But so far, I don't have anything with my 2.6.0 Kernel installed yet... So I'm safe (that's very relative!). One thing that I'm wondering, is if the magic -pthread flag of gcc links against to right libpthread... (LT or NPTL depending on the kernel version you are using). I have to do some more researchs on this... Alternatively, I could probably set-up several partitions, so that I'm sure to boot at least a stable version, even if things got definitively broken for the experimental one. I have to investigate this more closely. This should be your goal IMHO. Yes. Definitively. I believe, I'd like to have e.g. both gcc-3.2.x and gcc-3.3, installed on different directory. I'm sure that possible with Gentoo... But I need first to search how to do this. I once knew German. The difference is I didn't kill myself when I used broken grammar. Oh... Killing software is not really a problem. That's sometimes means spending hours in re-installing all the things, but not more. Killing Hardware, that's more problematic ;-) Did you ever kill Hardware?. Nope. glibc changes are unlikely to cause that. I knew... I have already killed some hardware with software. Once I damaged my floppy drive with a driver programmed by myself (it was written in ASM, and I made a mistake in a while loop... It looped indefinitively... As a result the floppy drive's head went to a place it shouldn't have go. Surprisingly, since then, I never wrote a broken while loop again...) I killed also more expensive hardwares, but I prefer to pass on these ones (it was more a mechanical mistake than a software one)... But fortunately, it doesn't happen to me so often. XFree was written for this purpose. :-) I'm really getting a positive feeling about the Gentoo's community! I'm glad to see someone who takes the tough love (I'm not talking about forced anal penetration ;) ) in a positive way. :-) Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
And as I mentioned before, don't be surprised when your X server fails to start if you have an nvidia card and are using glx. On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 16:51, Martin Schlemmer wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 23:40, Spider wrote: begin quote On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:29:10 -0500 Shawn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can tell who lived through the a.out - ELF transition... *BSD waited quite a while longer than Linux. Or even libc5 - glibc... Or even other ABI breakage!!! parts of it I've done (libc5-glibc) gcc 2.95- 3 and so on. it hurts. especially in systems with less package management than Gentoo has.. (LFS) But still, its never fun to be locked down with only a partially broken kernel and a system that wont run without it. I do not know if I am just lucky, but late 2.5's and now 2.6's runs fine for me (ok, so I usually only use -bk's, and I keep an eye on LKML for patches ... ). Anyhow, the transition *should* be smooth (after getting 2.6 to run - there are a few catches on first configures for it, and remembering to install module-init-tools, etc). I do not know for kde, but gnome works fine, and just one or two stuff need some major updates (valgrind for one). I have been using nptl since nov/dec last year, and in general most of the major issues have been solved - I would however recommend to use the latest gcc/glibc/binutils (3.3.1, 2.3.2-r3 and .5-r1) though, with preferably a 2.6.0-test3-bk2/3+ kernel I think, as that fixes a slight issue with child threads (the kernel). Regards, -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 16:59, Loic Domaigne wrote: One thing that I'm wondering, is if the magic -pthread flag of gcc links against to right libpthread... (LT or NPTL depending on the kernel version you are using). I have to do some more researchs on this... Most things linked against linuxthreads just work when you install glibc+NPTL, because the LT libpthreads.so.* are just replaced by NPTL libraries that get resolved similarly by the runtime linker. As far as gcc is concerned, it's the same lib. LT is no longer really there. I believe, I'd like to have e.g. both gcc-3.2.x and gcc-3.3, installed on different directory. See the SLOT dealy in the ebuild. I'm using 3.3.1 slotted as 3.3 which prevents it from overwriting other similarly slotted gccs. Once I damaged my floppy drive with a driver programmed by myself (it was written in ASM, and I made a mistake in a while loop... It looped indefinitively... As a result the floppy drive's head went to a place it shouldn't have go. Surprisingly, since then, I never wrote a broken while loop again...) Floppy drives, while harmless, can make scary sounds... -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?]
I'm no developer, but try emerge --noconfmem :-/ -Heschi - Original Message - From: Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?] Hi, before I further boffo my system, any devel that is online know the solution? Cheers, Lloyd -Forwarded Message- From: Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed? Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:03:50 -0400 On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:25, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: Nope, just re-inspect the changes. Like someone else already said, I think your only option is to re-emerge. *cringe* Which I did with 'emerge -e world' :-( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
Hi! Can someone describe in a few sentences why it is so dangerous to install a newer version of glibc. In a few words. Everything in your system depends on glibc. Normally, one should emerge world if glibc is updated. IOW, it means that all utilities/programs use glibc (the DL version). Even the kernel uses glibc (the static version, obviously, since the dynamic loader isn't in the kernel). So if this lib is broken, your whole system is broken. Nothing works anymore... And also what is the gain from getting NPTL? Do you think it improves performance very much? When is it suppose to be part of the stable version? Sure it does improve performance... But only for multi-threaded applications. I don't know if you are much involved with Pthread programming. When not, then I would stick to the standard LinuxThreads (provided on every 'stable' version of Gentoo). Even if it's not the bleeding edge of the technology, that's something that *WORKS*. NPTL is still under development... As an avid Pthread programmer, LT is just annoying me because it's departs from POSIX in some aspects (notably, the signal stuff) and it's slow by designed... I want try to the new NPTL technology. NPTL (Native Posix Thread Library) is developped by Ulrich Drepper, one of the main glibc maintainer. This guy works now at Red-Hat. So that's not really a surprise that RH v9.0 was the first distro (AFAIK) to support officially NPTL (it was I believe v0.28). Personally, I can't afford v0.28, because the stack upwinding is broken in many places. BTW v0.28 is the official NPTL release supported by the 'stable' glibc (you have to enable it explicitely in the USE flag, though)... Luis gave you an interesting link as starter. If you like more info about NPTL, a good document of Ulrich can be found at: people.redhat.com/drepper/nptl-design.pdf (this doc assumes that you know already much about Pthreads). Regards, Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
nptl 0.55 is in a KEYWORDS=-* masked version of glibc According to the GF5 FAQ on the gentoo forum, -arch means: doesn't work for architecture arch. Does -* means: doesn't work for ANY architecture? it needs kernel 2.5* (preferrably 2.6 to build) 2.6 is testing, bloody edge and prone to do weird things at times I'm running 2.6.0 (mm serie). It was warmly recommended on the forum... No problem so far, except during the installation... But I expect problems to come ;-) if you downgrade to 2.4 you get error, tried to kill init. kernel panic messages. Maybe not if you are using the redhat serie (AFAIK, the RH-guys patched the 2.4.20 kernel so that it works with NPTL). Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
I do not know if I am just lucky, but late 2.5's and now 2.6's runs fine for me (ok, so I usually only use -bk's, and I keep an eye on LKML for patches ... ). I started with 2.6.0 mm (SMP + Preempt seems to work fine so far ;-). Do you think that's OK? I have been using nptl since nov/dec last year, and in general most of the major issues have been solved - I would however recommend to use the latest gcc/glibc/binutils (3.3.1, 2.3.2-r3 and .5-r1) though Yup! I do agree... Loic. -- COMPUTERBILD 15/03: Premium-e-mail-Dienste im Test -- 1. GMX TopMail - Platz 1 und Testsieger! 2. GMX ProMail - Platz 2 und Preis-Qualitätssieger! 3. Arcor - 4. web.de - 5. T-Online - 6. freenet.de - 7. daybyday - 8. e-Post -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?]
Yes, that is it! I now remember previously considering this option, but I get the meaning from 'man emerge'. Thanks for everyone that assisted, Lloyd On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 18:19, Heschi Kreinick wrote: I'm no developer, but try emerge --noconfmem :-/ -Heschi - Original Message - From: Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 12:46 PM Subject: [Fwd: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed?] Hi, before I further boffo my system, any devel that is online know the solution? Cheers, Lloyd -Forwarded Message- From: Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] how to trigger ._cfg* to be installed? Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2003 10:03:50 -0400 On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:25, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 10:10, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Lloyd D Budd wrote: I did an 'emerge -e world' in the hopes that I would have all of the cfg change files. This did not occur. Any one know how to accomplish this? Are you trying to overwrite all your config files with the defaults? If so: Nope, just re-inspect the changes. Like someone else already said, I think your only option is to re-emerge. *cringe* Which I did with 'emerge -e world' :-( -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lloyd D Budd [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Printing problems.
The current canon drivers seem broken. There is a bug filed against gimp-print as #25747. Seems gentoo is using the development gimp-print which is badly broken in 4.3.18 and 4.3.19. The stable is 4.2.5 which is in portage - went to that and I can print again. Can any other canon users who have been hit by this add to the bug so A. show that a number of people are being affected by this, and B. portage gets put back to a working gimp-print BillK On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 23:49, Collins Richey wrote: On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 16:17:00 +0200 Sigurd Stordal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have installed the latest cups, foomatic and gimp.print. When I print the printer test page it prints ok. printing from gimp is OK, but printing from ghostscript or from any other program are only producing two thin lines on the top of the page. Anyone have an idea why. I have a Canon BJC-6100 printer. (And yes, I hate it, but can't affor a new one) A common cause of this problem is emerging ghostscript without USE=cups in effect. Cups has screwed around with ghostscript and can no longer use it without cups-supplied options. Try emerging ghostscript again. -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] auto-copy installed ebuilds to PORTDIR_OVERLAY
Hi, I have noticed that emerge sync will remove ebuilds that are installed. Is there any way to disable this? Failing that is there an option to auto-copy installed ebuilds to PORTDIR_OVERLAY? script/tool? Thanks! Lloyd -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] enabling iptables
Hi all I keep making a mess of recompiling my kernel to use iptables. Apologies in advance for the basic nature of my ignorance. First installation of gentoo, used cd's 1 2, stage 3 tarball plus the GRP. Gentoo-sources and genkernel to build the initial kernel. Iptables weren't in the kernel. iptables package emerged OK. I've now tried multiple times to enable iptables, using configurations from my debian and mandrake set-ups which work fine on the same box. I cannot get the exact same options - can't find CONFIG_NF_NAT_NEEDED anywhere during make menuconfig on gentoo. That aside, the networking options are identical, the kernel builds fine (make clean make bzImage make modules make modules_install) and boots without any obvious problem. However, modprobe ip_tables gives the errors unresolved symbol nf_register_sockopt and unresolved symbol nf_unregister_sockopt. I've googled around but found nothing useful, perhaps because several servers time out. 3 questions: 1. Is there some obvious option I need to build in here, perhaps the NF_NAT_NEEDED thing I can't find? 2. Am I missing out some crucial stage in getting the modules inserted? 3. Or what? Many thanks for any assistance. Richard -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Control X mouse events?
Hey, On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 22:24:55 +0200 Kenneth Macdonald Karlsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jonathan Kelly wrote: Hi there, can someone tell me how to tell an X window manager not to process a particular input? I have an app that uses ALT-right mouse button for a major functionality, but it seems to be globally defined to resize a window. I was using Icewm, but cant see how to do it in there. I'm currently looking at Sawfish, as that seems very configurable, but I can't believe how much documentation there ISNT for Sawfish. I was told it is possible to do this with Sawfish. Failing that, anyone know of a Window Manager that this is possible in. I'd switch to just about anything at this point. cheers. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list Have a look at openbox or blackbox ( they have no keybinding without epist or bbkeys) or enlightenment (very configurable) with e16keyedit and e16menuedit. Kenneth No, if I run openbox without epist, ALT-R-Mouse-Button still does window resize. Either it's hard coded or it's configured *somewhere*. I know I can't find it. Thanks anyway. Jonathan. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to install NPTL v0.55?
begin quote On Fri, 22 Aug 2003 00:50:41 +0200 (MEST) Loic Domaigne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nptl 0.55 is in a KEYWORDS=-* masked version of glibc According to the GF5 FAQ on the gentoo forum, -arch means: doesn't work for architecture arch. Does -* means: doesn't work for ANY architecture? -* Means disabled for all architectures (not necessarily doesn't work but too close ) if you downgrade to 2.4 you get error, tried to kill init. kernel panic messages. Maybe not if you are using the redhat serie (AFAIK, the RH-guys patched the 2.4.20 kernel so that it works with NPTL). Haven't tried. Don't have hardware to try it on either. :/ //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
