Re: [gentoo-user] laptop's getting hot, any hints?
I have a Presario 1500 as well and experience the same (albeit worse) problem. When it first started experiencing symptoms, I noticed because itw ould shut down during large compiles. I found that it would hit 85 degrees C and then just kick off. Blowing it out really, really well gets the temps int he sub-74 degree range and everything seems peachy. Granted, that's only getting it as low as what you are concerned about. However, I've been operating this particular computer for over a year at these temps with no problems (except for having to take the time to spray canned air in every month or so). Nick On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:51:39 +0800, mel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I'm running Gentoo on Compaq Presario 1500 for almost a year now, and everything is fine and dandy except for one thing: the CPU gets hot quickly whenever I emerge large packages (xorg, mysql, kernels). Currently I don't have any control apps (speedfreq, cpufreq), and I resort to distcc (which keeps the CPU temp somewhere between 65 deg C to 68 deg C - without it it goes as high as 74 deg C). Another thing that I do is Ctrl-S to suspend the compile, let the CPU cools down, and Ctrl-Q to continue. The fans are all working fine. Question: What other things I can do to cool the CPU while emerging? Will using cpufreq/speedfreq helps? --mel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Presarrio900 ,,,new to gentoo !
Hi I am new to gentoo Linux.And I am trying to use gentoo in my Compaq Presario 900 laptop. Has anyone installed in Presario 900 ? Please suggest me.. Rgds uglyjoe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Custom Bootable CD
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 20:37:04 -0500, David Corbin wrote: So, your recommendation would be to simply boot of the CD specifying my root directory, hand mount /boot, and re-LILO if I have a problem. (The CD will have to have resierfs support) It doesn't appear that I'll need access to /usr to restore my system. Is this right? Knoppix has all you need, but it is a pain setting up RAID and LVM manually. Once option would be to put the necessary steps into a shell script and save it on a USB device, then run it once Knoppix has started. -- Neil Bothwick Yes, I've heard of decaf. What's your point? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A peculiar DNS puzzle...
On 2005-01-22 19:18:45 + (Sat, Jan), Steve wrote: I've a small network with a WinXp PC, Gentoo PC and Dlink 504T ADSL router/NAT/Firewall/Ethernet Switch box. The Dlink serves DHCP services and DNS to my LAN - these DLink services have been verified as working flawlessly from my WinXp PC. The DLINK has an IP address of 192.168.1.1 (as is default) and this is my default gateway and DNS server setting under XP where everything seems to work fine. With Gentoo I opted for a stage3 install from the 2004.3 universal live CD - and found problems without having installed anything significant from portage. The first problem came when trying to run emerge --sync - where I couldn't do DNS lookups at all in a chrooted environment... Have you created /etc/resolv.conf also in chrootet environment? Or only in live CD environment? * my resolv.conf file has nameserver 192.168.1.1 - which looks correct according to the docs. I've not installed a Gentoo name server (such as bind) - I was under the impression this wasn't strictly necessary. /etc/resolv.conf in new install? And you're right. It's not necessary. Can anyone tell me if I'm following best Gentoo practice configuring my nameserver only in resolve.conf ? I humbly believe that you do. Would installing a caching nameserver be a way to resolve the problem or complicate the issue of resolving this bug in my install? You may try. As far as I know 'djbdns' (which I'm using) contacts root servers and descends down from them, so it would bypass your local DNS troubles. However it may be worth to spend some time trying to understand what is causing the problems. It may pay back later. pgp4E3LAFuwg3.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] laptop's getting hot, any hints?
Some went as far as sticking their notebook in the fridge! http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=158739 --mel Nicolas Bailey wrote: I have a Presario 1500 as well and experience the same (albeit worse) problem. When it first started experiencing symptoms, I noticed because itw ould shut down during large compiles. I found that it would hit 85 degrees C and then just kick off. Blowing it out really, really well gets the temps int he sub-74 degree range and everything seems peachy. Granted, that's only getting it as low as what you are concerned about. However, I've been operating this particular computer for over a year at these temps with no problems (except for having to take the time to spray canned air in every month or so). Nick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:06:13 -0500 (EST), A. Khattri wrote:
It should. Sounds like something is wrong with the file. I don't
remember any { in .config.
No { in any of my kernel configs:
# grep { /boot/config-2.6.*
Do you get the same error when you run make menuconfig with no .config
file? It sounds more like the error relates to the makefile than .config.
--
Neil Bothwick
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Re: [gentoo-user] kde-3.4, no sound and pesky volume box
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:54 -0500, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I thought beta was when most bugs were worked out, with the input of users? Yes, so: 1) You should expect bugs. 2) You should report bugs. Otherwise, there's no point in running a beta, and the bugs could remain in the release version. -- Neil Bothwick File Not Found - Loading something that looks similar -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Two sound cards with ALSA
I've got to sound cards sblive and ac'97. But out-line of sblive has burned. Is there way to use two sound cards in this mode: first card redirects their output to the second. Can i do so with alsa? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) I guess I'll have to install without knowing the truth... Xavier -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:23:08 -0500 Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 03:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) Have you registered? If not, try registering yourself here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/createaccount.cgi I am registered and I can't access the bug either. Cheers, Renat -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:39:36 +0100 Renat Golubchyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:23:08 -0500 Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 03:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) Have you registered? If not, try registering yourself here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/createaccount.cgi I am registered and I can't access the bug either. Cheers, Renat -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I can't acces et either... And I'm logged in -- Crasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Renat Golubchyk, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:23:08 -0500 Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 03:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) Have you registered? If not, try registering yourself here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/createaccount.cgi I am registered and I can't access the bug either. Me too You are not authorized to access bug #79183. From Social contract: - We will not hide problems We will keep our bug report database open for public view at all times; reports that users file online will immediately become visible to others. Exceptions are made when we receive security-related or developer relations information with the request not to publicize before a certain deadline. - We have an exception here.. :-S -- You will soon forget this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Me too You are not authorized to access bug #79183. From Social contract: - We will not hide problems We will keep our bug report database open for public view at all times; reports that users file online will immediately become visible to others. Exceptions are made when we receive security-related or developer relations information with the request not to publicize before a certain deadline. - We have an exception here.. :-S -- You will soon forget this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Ic -- Crasha -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3) wrote: Renat Golubchyk, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 04:23:08 -0500 Phil Sexton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 03:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) Have you registered? If not, try registering yourself here: http://bugs.gentoo.org/createaccount.cgi I am registered and I can't access the bug either. Me too You are not authorized to access bug #79183. From Social contract: - We will not hide problems We will keep our bug report database open for public view at all times; reports that users file online will immediately become visible to others. Exceptions are made when we receive security-related or developer relations information with the request not to publicize before a certain deadline. - We have an exception here.. :-S Mozilla have the same policy with regards to security-related bugs, if they're considered serious enough, so its not a gentoo only thing. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 21/01/2005 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 04:31, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: I was actually logged in when I got this message. Without being logged, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. To see this bug, you must first log in to an account with the appropriate permissions. In any case, I do not think it should be necessary to log in just to look at a bug report. Hmmm same here and it also doesn't show the number if you search for ALL evolution either. -- Phil Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy Naomi's Fancy performances: http://naomisfancy.virtualave.net/schedule.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Monday 24 January 2005 08:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) I'm a bit curious too so I had a look for some more information. The ChangeLog says this *evolution-2.0.2-r1 (23 Jan 2005) 23 Jan 2005; Mike Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/evolution-2-CAN-2005-0102.patch, +evolution-2.0.2-r1.ebuild, +evolution-2.0.3-r1.ebuild: New revisions for 2.0.2 and 2.0.3, including CAN-2005-0102 patch. See bug #79183 So there is the reference to CAN-2005-0102, which is the problem that the patch is meant to fix. I don't know if this is the only, or even best, place to find this information, but Google helped me find this http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-0102 Which says ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. I guess I'll have to install without knowing the truth... Yes, for now at least. -- Ian. EOM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 10:07 +, Ian Hastie wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 08:58, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on bugs.gentoo.org, I get: You are not authorized to access bug #79183. Well, I didn't know some bugs are so bad that the have to be kept secret :o) I'm a bit curious too so I had a look for some more information. The ChangeLog says this *evolution-2.0.2-r1 (23 Jan 2005) 23 Jan 2005; Mike Gardiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] +files/evolution-2-CAN-2005-0102.patch, +evolution-2.0.2-r1.ebuild, +evolution-2.0.3-r1.ebuild: New revisions for 2.0.2 and 2.0.3, including CAN-2005-0102 patch. See bug #79183 So there is the reference to CAN-2005-0102, which is the problem that the patch is meant to fix. I don't know if this is the only, or even best, place to find this information, but Google helped me find this http://www.cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2005-0102 Which says ** RESERVED ** This candidate has been reserved by an organization or individual that will use it when announcing a new security problem. When the candidate has been publicized, the details for this candidate will be provided. I guess I'll have to install without knowing the truth... Yes, for now at least. So it is for a security issue that we cannot access the bug. On the other hand, it is not difficult to have a look at the (very short) corresponding patch: /usr/portage/mail-client/evolution/files/evolution-2-CAN-2005-0102.patch from which one can deduce what the bug was ;o) Xavier -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Problem with SATA hard disk
Hello world, I have just bought a new PC, a Dell Dimension 8400. I need a new dist of Linux to enjoy it. So I buy the complete DVD dist of Gentoo , 2004.3/x86. I am trying to install Gentoo on my new PC. The DVD boots OK and show me the prompt to continue with the installation, but there is no device for the SATA hard disk. It is supposed to be /dev/sda1 but there is nothing similar in /dev. The only thing I find are these lines in /var/log/messages. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd libata version 1.02 loaded. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata_piix version 1.02 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata: 0x1f0 IDE port busy Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd PCI: Setting latency time of device :00:1f.2 to 64 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFEA8 irq 15 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ATA: abnormal status 0xFF on port 0x177 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecdata1: disabling port Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd scsi0: ata_piix I try different options of the kernel at start-up, such as doscsi noapic but nothing works at all. Is there any method to recognize the SATA disk correctly? Could anyone help me? Thank you in advice. Javier Valladolid. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two sound cards with ALSA
Konstantin Selivanov wrote: I've got to sound cards sblive and ac'97. But out-line of sblive has burned. Is there way to use two sound cards in this mode: first card redirects their output to the second. Can i do so with alsa? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I'm not for 100% sure but I think you can redirect the sound via the .asoundrc file, just make an alias that puts the output of card1 to card2. Just out of curiosity, why do want to redirect it? Is it because hardware mixer support? - Name: Rick van Hattem Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
Hi. I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. ati-drivers : 8.8.25-r1 snip lspci :00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV Processor to I/O Controller (rev 04) :00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 915G/P/GV PCI Express Root Port (rev 04) :00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03) :00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03) :00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #1 (rev 03) :00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #2 (rev 03) :00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #3 (rev 03) :00:1d.3 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB UHCI #4 (rev 03) :00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 03) :00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d3) :00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03) :00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FR (ICH6/ICH6R) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 03) :00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) IDE Controller (rev 03) :00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller (rev 03) :00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03) :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV370 5B60 [Radeon X300 (PCIE)] :01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5b70 :02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5751 Gigabit Ethernet PCI Express (rev 01) /snip lspci contents of /etc/X11/xorg.conf with module 'radeon' instead of 'fglrx' snip #Section Extensions # Option Composite Enable # EndSection Section Module # This loads the DBE extension module. Loaddbe # Double buffer extension # This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables # initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module. SubSection extmod Optionomit xfree86-dga # don't initialise the DGA extension EndSubSection # This loads the font modules Loadtype1 #Loadspeedo Loadfreetype #Loadxtt # This loads the GLX module #Load glx # This loads the DRI module #Load dri EndSection # ** # Files section. This allows default font and rgb paths to be set # ** Section Files RgbPath /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb FontPath /usr/share/fonts/misc/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TTF/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Type1/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/CID/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/75dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/100dpi/ FontPath /usr/share/fonts/local/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/Speedo/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/TrueType/ #FontPath /usr/share/fonts/freefont/ #ModulePath /usr/X11R6/lib/modules EndSection # ** # Server flags section. # ** Section ServerFlags # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltFn VT switch sequence # (where n is 1 through 12). This allows clients to receive these key # events. #Option DontVTSwitch # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltBS server abort sequence # This allows clients to receive this key event. #Option DontZap # Uncomment this to disable the CrtlAltKP_+/KP_- mode switching # sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events. #Option Dont Zoom EndSection # ** # Core keyboard's InputDevice section # ** Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option XkbModel pc105 Option XkbLayout se EndSection # ** # Core Pointer's InputDevice section # ** Section InputDevice Identifier Keyboard1 Driver kbd Option AutoRepeat 500 30 Option XkbRules xorg Option
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Monday 24 January 2005 10:31, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: So it is for a security issue that we cannot access the bug. Supposedly. On the other hand, it is not difficult to have a look at the (very short) corresponding patch: /usr/portage/mail-client/evolution/files/evolution-2-CAN-2005-0102.patch from which one can deduce what the bug was ;o) As you imply it doesn't work very well does it. Looks like a buffer overflow of some kind. The patch looks kind of unpleasantly hackish to me. The only advantage I can think of is that it doesn't need to know the limitations of the hardware or compiler. It just detects the condition that allows the overflow to take place. -- Ian. EOM -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
Henrik Andersson wrote: Hi. I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. ati-drivers : 8.8.25-r1 Well... it might sound stupid, but I sometimes have the same problem with my compaq-monitor. My solution is to turn off and turn on the monitor, when I get the out of sync message. Usually my monitor works fine, but sometimes it doesn't like 1600*1200. Then I turn it off and then I turn it on. It might sound silly, but it works for me. Kristian Poul Herkild -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
Henrik Andersson wrote: Hi. I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. Section Monitor Identifier ViewSonic HorizSync 30-92 VertRefresh 50-85 Option DPMS EndSection Maybe you can try lowering the above values, although these settings should be correct there is a change that the monitor can't reach it. -- - Name: Rick van Hattem Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with SATA hard disk
You need to make sure you have compiled in the correct sata module in your kernel. That is going to depend on what chipset your Dell PC uses for sata. Either compile it in as a module and load it at boot time or compile it direct into your kernel. My motherboard has a via-sata chip, I compiled it into the kernel and it works just fine. If you compile as a module try using mod_probe to load it first to make sure it works. My Gentoo installation now boots from the via_sata drive. This is easy if you have onboard sata but trickier if you have a separate sata card. A quick google shows you have an intel sata chips and its onboard. Kevin. On Monday 24 January 2005 11:33, Javier Valladolid wrote: Hello world, I have just bought a new PC, a Dell Dimension 8400. I need a new dist of Linux to enjoy it. So I buy the complete DVD dist of Gentoo , 2004.3/x86. I am trying to install Gentoo on my new PC. The DVD boots OK and show me the prompt to continue with the installation, but there is no device for the SATA hard disk. It is supposed to be /dev/sda1 but there is nothing similar in /dev. The only thing I find are these lines in /var/log/messages. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd libata version 1.02 loaded. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata_piix version 1.02 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata: 0x1f0 IDE port busy Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd PCI: Setting latency time of device :00:1f.2 to 64 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFEA8 irq 15 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ATA: abnormal status 0xFF on port 0x177 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecdata1: disabling port Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd scsi0: ata_piix I try different options of the kernel at start-up, such as doscsi noapic but nothing works at all. Is there any method to recognize the SATA disk correctly? Could anyone help me? Thank you in advice. Javier Valladolid. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Presarrio900 ,,,new to gentoo !
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 01:54:50 +0545, raj kumar gurung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi I am new to gentoo Linux.And I am trying to use gentoo in my Compaq Presario 900 laptop. Has anyone installed in Presario 900 ? Please suggest me.. Haven't installed gentoo on that particular model, but had gentoo running happily on many other notebooks. Follow the handbook, you should be fine. Raise any problem to the user list or forum. I'm sure it'll end up OK. Good luck. -- Joe -- Money can't buy everything. Sometimes money can't even buy a gun... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Presarrio900 ,,,new to gentoo !
raj kumar gurung wrote: Hi I am new to gentoo Linux.And I am trying to use gentoo in my Compaq Presario 900 laptop. Has anyone installed in Presario 900 ? Please suggest me.. Rgds uglyjoe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Just google around: http://www.google.com/search?q=Presario+900+linux You might not find Gentoo specific information but a lot of common information about the laptop, that should be enough to install all the hardware. -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Presarrio900 ,,,new to gentoo !
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:09:51 +0100, Rick van Hattem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just google around: http://www.google.com/search?q=Presario+900+linux You might not find Gentoo specific information but a lot of common information about the laptop, that should be enough to install all the hardware. There appears to be 3 good links (about half way down the list) on this page that may assist: http://tuxmobil.org/compaq.html And as Rick suggested above, it should be enough to assist with installation. HTH, ...Ric -- Ric de France Ph: +61412945554 (international) or 0412945554 (Australia) == Do you, uh... Gentoo? Gent-hooo!! == -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:05:50 +, Ian Hastie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Monday 24 January 2005 10:31, Xavier-Francois Roblot wrote: So it is for a security issue that we cannot access the bug. Supposedly. On the other hand, it is not difficult to have a look at the (very short) corresponding patch: /usr/portage/mail-client/evolution/files/evolution-2-CAN-2005-0102.patch from which one can deduce what the bug was ;o) As you imply it doesn't work very well does it. Looks like a buffer overflow of some kind. The patch looks kind of unpleasantly hackish to me. The only advantage I can think of is that it doesn't need to know the limitations of the hardware or compiler. It just detects the condition that allows the overflow to take place. Whatever. The practice of secreting fixes is still complete horse feathers, and it reeks to high heaven. -- Collins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A peculiar DNS puzzle...
Thanks for the suggestions so far... even though I don't think the issue is resolved... It has been useful that people have confirmed that I'm not doing anything obviously dumb - but I still haven't got to the bottom of this... Chris suggested: Why don't you put your ISP's DNS servers in /etc/resolv.conf instead of your router. and Mike Noble suggested something similar: Your DLink is not a DNS server. If you look at the configuration of the DLink you will find the DNS servers that it knows about. You then need to add those address to your /etc/resolv.conf file. ... You really only need the nameserver lines for DNS to work. While my Dlink might not be a DNS server - it certainly behaves like one. The documentation which accompanied the Dlink 504T recommends naming the router as the DNS nameserver. The configuration of the router allows me to get it to determine my ISP's name-servers by DHCP or to specify them myself. Windows is only aware of the IP address of my router as a nameserver (i.e. ipconfig /all only reports the IP address of my router and not the IP address of my ISP's DNS servers. My main reason not to just plonk the nameservers of my ISP into my resolv.conf file is that not only do I want to resolve the addresses of remote sites, but also the hosts on my LAN - to which I want my always-on router to dynamically assign IP addresses. Essentially I'd like to use the same configuration under Gentoo as has already been shown to work under Windows... and that is where I run into problems where DNS names sometimes erroneously resolve to 1.0.0.0 - which remains a peculiar puzzle. Mariusz wrote : from portage. The first problem came when trying to run emerge --sync - where I couldn't do DNS lookups at all in a chrooted environment... Have you created /etc/resolv.conf also in chrootet environment? Or only in live CD environment? Yes. I'd followed the instructions and had copied /etc/resolve.conf from the live CD environment to the chroot environment (i.e. /mnt/gentoo/etc/resolve.conf before doing the chroot) I have read other users complaining about DNS problems in the chroot environment when following the install instructions - and my experiences match those others have reported. While it is conceivable that I could have initially messed up by copying to resolve.conf instead of resolv.conf or something like that - having ran into difficulties I started from scratch being meticulously careful - I firmly believe that I followed all the instructions: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-quickinstall.xml to the letter - yet DNS names would not resolve for me in the chroot environment - hence preventing the last step in box 1.2. I've worked around this problem, however I thought it worth mentioning as: a) Confirmation that another 'first time installer' has encountered difficulties having followed the Quick Install Reference b) The DNS after chroot problem seems inexplicable right now - and is the first example of something strange with DNS in my Gentoo install. Mariusz also asked : /etc/resolv.conf in new install? Yes. Definitely! :-) It points at 192.168.1.1 (i.e. my router's address - just like under XP.) Mariusz also suggested : Would installing a caching nameserver be a way to resolve the problem or complicate the issue of resolving this bug in my install? You may try. As far as I know 'djbdns' (which I'm using) contacts root servers and descends down from them, so it would bypass your local DNS troubles. I am aware of djbdns - but as I have slightly more familiarity with Bind - I think I'd prefer to go with that if I run my own nameserver. There are, however several down-sides to installing a nameserver on my Gentoo box. I believe (as I think you do too) that it would eliminate any problems I have getting Gentoo to interact properly with the Dlink unit. The disadvantage would be that by bypassing the Dlink I'd also bypass the only device which is aware of the dynamically assigned names of the machines on my LAN... this is pretty undesirable. I suppose I could install a DHCP server on the Gentoo box and disable DHCP on the Dlink - but this introduces the disadvantage that my network becomes dependent on my Gentoo-box (with a noisy fan) where I'd prefer it to have been dependent only on the Dlink (which already represents a single point of failure) and operates silently. Additional observations... I emerged the bind-tools package and had a play with dig and nslookup. To further add to the intrigue of this bizarre problem - I was surprised to find that both dig and nslookup (like ping) correctly resolve addresses - whereas wget and lynx still stubbornly insist that sites not recently accessed by another LAN host - or from Gentoo with ping, dig or nslookup all resolve to 1.0.0.0! I've found one other user on the net complaing about the Dlink 504T failing to resolve addresses... he was using Redhat -
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with SATA hard disk
You should try modprobing manually, or using another livecd... These weekend I installed a Gentoo into a sata with reiser4 using the RR4 LiveCD... and its wonderfull... but you can try another one like knoppix and see if it recongnize your sata controller. []'s Mauro Javier Valladolid wrote: Hello world, I have just bought a new PC, a Dell Dimension 8400. I need a new dist of Linux to enjoy it. So I buy the complete DVD dist of Gentoo , 2004.3/x86. I am trying to install Gentoo on my new PC. The DVD boots OK and show me the prompt to continue with the installation, but there is no device for the SATA hard disk. It is supposed to be /dev/sda1 but there is nothing similar in /dev. The only thing I find are these lines in /var/log/messages. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd libata version 1.02 loaded. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata_piix version 1.02 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata: 0x1f0 IDE port busy Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd PCI: Setting latency time of device :00:1f.2 to 64 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFEA8 irq 15 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ATA: abnormal status 0xFF on port 0x177 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecdata1: disabling port Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd scsi0: ata_piix I try different options of the kernel at start-up, such as doscsi noapic but nothing works at all. Is there any method to recognize the SATA disk correctly? Could anyone help me? Thank you in advice. Javier Valladolid. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:58:30 +0100 Xavier-Francois Roblot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to | fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I | wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on | bugs.gentoo.org, I get: | | You are not authorized to access bug #79183. The bug will become open to the public as soon as we're allowed to do so. Lemme explain the issue... A fair number of security bugs come in via VendorSec. VendorSec's policy on security bugs is to keep the bug details secret until all their member distributions have released fixed versions. Gentoo is one of the VendorSec member distributions, and as part of that we have to agree not to publish details of security things we get from them until after the deadline. You could argue that we shouldn't be involved in anything like this, simply on principle. However, given the choice between giving our users secure systems, or not knowing about security bugs *at all* for anything up to several months after RedHat and Debian do, the decision was made to keep certain bugs locked for a while if this was necessary for us to see the bug information. (Note: we also restrict certain devrel bugs. These are to do with Gentoo internal developer management things, and aren't relevant to end users.) -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpsm42y3DQAr.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:14:21 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Whatever. The practice of secreting fixes is still complete horse | feathers, and it reeks to high heaven. Indeed it does. Take it up with VendorSec. We don't really have much choice but to play along (or we could chose to just not know about any kind of security fix until several months after RedHat and Debian do, but that's not really a very nice option). -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpKOK7ZVGONC.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Another option, The Cell
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:03:50 -0500 Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | I repeat, 1 Cell = 5 dual core Opterons. 4 Cells on a PS3 will walk | all over X86-based CPUs, or anything this side of an IBM z-series | mainframe. Unlike Quantum Computing, The Cell should be affordable | very soon. 4 Cells per PlayStation is going to mean really *BIG* | volume production, and the resultant economies of scale. Yes, but then any modern graphics card will walk over several opterons too, *if* the task is graphics processing. For anything else, they're pretty tame. Being able to outperform an opteron at one particular task isn't any kind of big deal. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpnSOO8aLnZc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] gaim and msn
Le vendredi 21 janvier 2005 à 21:55 +0100, Johan Van den Neste a écrit : Gaim 1.1.2 is out. It contains some minor bug fixes, and a working HTTP connection method for MSN. This should help out people behind strict firewalls Thanks to everyone who helped. It works correctly now. (Since I'm no longer behind a firewall, I just removed the http stuff) Fred -- Frédéric Grosshans [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A peculiar DNS puzzle...
I emerged the bind-tools package and had a play with dig and nslookup. To further add to the intrigue of this bizarre problem - I was surprised to find that both dig and nslookup (like ping) correctly resolve addresses - whereas wget and lynx still stubbornly insist that sites not recently accessed by another LAN host - or from Gentoo with ping, dig or nslookup all resolve to 1.0.0.0! I would try to scan /etc/hosts - maybe there is something strange? Probably you already did that... :-) Something in /etc/networks ? Some PROXY settings are in effect? Wget and lynx are using some library that has troubles? I'm still suspicious that this is something to do with IPV6 - which would explain why Windows users have no problem (as none of the Windows DNS tools support IPV6) - though I can't explain why using emegre to rebuild with USE set to -ipv6 in make.conf makes no difference... I also wonder if the whole 1.0.0.0 problem may be explained by some poor choice I made when configuring my 2.6 kernel... even though I thought I'd been pretty restrained and only enabled what to me seemed to be the obvious options. If you can, try to scan the network traffic - ideally, do it from two boxes - the machine that has problems, and from an external one - to see what data goes physically on-the-wire (in case the kernel does something bad) Using 'tcpdump' or 'ethereal' you should be able to see the DNS queries and responses, and maybe that will give some enlightment? Strange and interesting. ;-) Good luck! pgpAtyJwjICyQ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: AMD64 vs P4 w/HT
I know some admins who are looking to try Oracle RAC on amd64, but have some 64bit vs 32bit issues for a number of things. If they could run Oracle in 64bit and some of the helper applications in 32bit that would solve a number of their issues in a production enviroment... testing updates would be much easier. Happen to have any links on this? There is work going on for the next release of Gentoo on x86_64 in getting the multilib environment working properly. But no, no links on Oracle at the moment. And given everything I've seen on Oracle both when I was actively involved - V3 on a 36-bit Dec KI10, and as a user now, I'd recommend staying away from Oracle if at all possible. Any software that requires a set of specific libraries, even on Red Hat Enterprise, has some serious issues with working at all. But if you want to keep track of what's going on with 64-bit and 32-bit multiple library environments, subscribe to - gentoo-amd64. Also I'd been googling around and hadn't found anything about running 32bit drivers, fiber hba card, in a 64 bit kernel. The answer appears to be no, but no one has said anything definite. Fiber HBA card? Like Qlogic? It's in the kernel. And any decent FC card has been 64-bit complaint for ages. The only issues I've seen are some Wireless cards and useless winmodems. Real hardware has 64-bit drivers. Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
Rick van Hattem wrote: Henrik Andersson wrote: Hi. I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. Section Monitor Identifier ViewSonic HorizSync 30-92 VertRefresh 50-85 Option DPMS EndSection Maybe you can try lowering the above values, although these settings should be correct there is a change that the monitor can't reach it. strange is that it works fine with 'radeon' but not with 'fglrx'. However I found a modeline that seemed to fix the problem. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
hi, Is there a way to slow down specific I/O operation, f.e. a copy of file from one disk to another or from one partition to another. I dont bother if it takes a little bit longer, but dont want it to take alot of i/o bantdwith of other processes running currently in the system - http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2004-12-08-004-32-OS-BZ-DT-0005 snip MS Office is popular in the same way as heart disease is the most popular way to die. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xorg Problem: ati
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 19:43:04 -0800 (PST), death rince [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Folks, [massive snip] (II) LoadModule: i810 (II) Reloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i810_drv.o (II) UnloadModule: i810 (EE) Failed to load module i810 (once-only module, -1073748652) [snip] *** If unresolved symbols were reported above, they might not *** be the reason for the server aborting. Hopefully this means we can ignore all those hideous things. Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting Seems that the i810 driver is the issue...try configuring with fglrxconfig rather than Xorg -configure. -- Be the person your dog thinks you are -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Two sound cards with ALSA
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:35:42 +0100, Rick van Hattem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not for 100% sure but I think you can redirect the sound via the .asoundrc file, just make an alias that puts the output of card1 to card2. Thanks, i'll try to do something with .asoundrc Just out of curiosity, why do want to redirect it? Is it because hardware mixer support? There was some hardware problem with my favorite sblive. Something happends with its output and now i can't use it (but card work in general). I actually may use second soundcard, but i prefer emu10k. Thus i need this redirecting to use second card just like output device. (Sorry for my english) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Is there a way to slow down specific I/O operation, f.e. a copy of file from one disk to another or from one partition to another. I dont bother if it takes a little bit longer, but dont want it to take alot of i/o bantdwith of other processes running currently in the system - http://linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2004-12-08-004-32-OS-BZ-DT-0005 snip MS Office is popular in the same way as heart disease is the most popular way to die. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list try rsync -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-3.4, no sound and pesky volume box
On Monday 24 January 2005 03:47 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:54 -0500, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I thought beta was when most bugs were worked out, with the input of users? Yes, so: 1) You should expect bugs. check 2) You should report bugs. check Otherwise, there's no point in running a beta, and the bugs could remain in the release version. I guess my question is should I not have posted this here, I thought if it were a bug someone else might have seen it and found a solutin, hence I asked here. But the first response I got made me think some were irritated that I asked here... Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.9-ck3| Win4Lin 5-1-18c netraverse.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-3.4, no sound and pesky volume box
Michael W. Holdeman ha scritto: On Monday 24 January 2005 03:47 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:54 -0500, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I thought beta was when most bugs were worked out, with the input of users? Yes, so: 1) You should expect bugs. check 2) You should report bugs. check Otherwise, there's no point in running a beta, and the bugs could remain in the release version. I guess my question is should I not have posted this here, I thought if it were a bug someone else might have seen it and found a solutin, hence I asked here. But the first response I got made me think some were irritated that I asked here... Mike Solution, if only one on a list that have hundred of post at day is irritated simply don't care about him. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kde-3.4, no sound and pesky volume box
I apologise if my curt reply yesterday was offensive. I wasnt even irritated. It wasnt meant to be offensive. But logical because of the product being Beta. Perhaps theres a Beta Bug track for kde that you might want to look at and see if the bug is listed there? Your question sounded like you were reporting a bug on a release product. Bastian Balthazar Bux wrote: Michael W. Holdeman ha scritto: On Monday 24 January 2005 03:47 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 21:01:54 -0500, Michael W. Holdeman wrote: I thought beta was when most bugs were worked out, with the input of users? Yes, so: 1) You should expect bugs. check 2) You should report bugs. check Otherwise, there's no point in running a beta, and the bugs could remain in the release version. I guess my question is should I not have posted this here, I thought if it were a bug someone else might have seen it and found a solutin, hence I asked here. But the first response I got made me think some were irritated that I asked here... Mike Solution, if only one on a list that have hundred of post at day is irritated simply don't care about him. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Win key in KDE
Have not found the way to release Win key from the KDE Menu pop up (I'd like to use the key with StarDict). What have I missed? Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Win key in KDE
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:25:04 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Have not found the way to release Win key from the KDE Menu pop up (I'd like to use the key with StarDict). What have I missed? KDE Control Centre - Regional Accessibility - Keyboard Shortcuts Reassign the key for Panel/Popup launch menu. -- Neil Bothwick Echo Speak: Whale oil beef hooked -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:58:30 +0100 Xavier-Francois Roblot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Hi, the last unstable version of evolution 2.0.3-r1 was released to | fix bug #79183 according to the ChangeLog. Since I am a curious guy, I | wanted to have a look at what this bug is. But when I search for it on | bugs.gentoo.org, I get: | | You are not authorized to access bug #79183. The bug will become open to the public as soon as we're allowed to do so. Lemme explain the issue... A fair number of security bugs come in via VendorSec. VendorSec's policy on security bugs is to keep the bug details secret until all their member distributions have released fixed versions. Gentoo is one of the VendorSec member distributions, and as part of that we have to agree not to publish details of security things we get from them until after the deadline. Yes it's a wonderful way to incite problems within the community. Not your fault, or gentoo's, obviously, but vendorsec is a machination of politics and I have difficulty seeing the benefit of their approach in any circumstance. I suppose I am at the extreme end of opinions on this topic, but whenever (politics X) happens, I get frustrated. You could argue that we shouldn't be involved in anything like this, simply on principle. However, given the choice between giving our users secure systems, or not knowing about security bugs *at all* for anything up to several months after RedHat and Debian do, the decision was made to keep certain bugs locked for a while if this was necessary for us to see the bug information. IMO, you have to decide on what is considered more important for the users and where gentoo's ideals lie. If engaging with vendorsec is _worth_ the irritation, then recognize that there is going to be a backlash from some members of the community. I believe that ideals (or approximations thereof) are only attainable if you try to implement them. You may already be aware of the parallel discussion regarding vendorsec in the linux.kernel newsgroup. _k -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 14:33:36 +, Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:14:21 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Whatever. The practice of secreting fixes is still complete horse | feathers, and it reeks to high heaven. Indeed it does. Take it up with VendorSec. We don't really have much choice but to play along (or we could chose to just not know about any kind of security fix until several months after RedHat and Debian do, but that's not really a very nice option). OK. Perhaps someone could publish this standard exception prominently on the gentoo site so as to avoid wasted time in threads like this one. -- Collins -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling bootup info
LOL! On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:03, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: Sevak Avakians wrote: Anyone know how to disable the text output in the bootup and startup portions? I'd like to replace it with a nice graphic if possible. switch monitor on 2 minutes after PC :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with SATA hard disk
Javier Valladolid wrote: Hello world, I have just bought a new PC, a Dell Dimension 8400. I need a new dist of Linux to enjoy it. So I buy the complete DVD dist of Gentoo , 2004.3/x86. I am trying to install Gentoo on my new PC. The DVD boots OK and show me the prompt to continue with the installation, but there is no device for the SATA hard disk. It is supposed to be /dev/sda1 but there is nothing similar in /dev. The only thing I find are these lines in /var/log/messages. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd libata version 1.02 loaded. Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata_piix version 1.02 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata: 0x1f0 IDE port busy Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd PCI: Setting latency time of device :00:1f.2 to 64 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ata1: SATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0xFEA8 irq 15 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd ATA: abnormal status 0xFF on port 0x177 Jan 23 23:46:04 livecdata1: disabling port Jan 23 23:46:04 livecd scsi0: ata_piix I try different options of the kernel at start-up, such as doscsi noapic but nothing works at all. Is there any method to recognize the SATA disk correctly? Could anyone help me? Thank you in advice. Javier Valladolid. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I have a similar dell machine that uses sata by VIA. * boot with livecd, no need to enter doscsi * insert the sata module (modprobe sata_via) * partition the drive (cfdisk /dev/sda) eventually some other sata-module fits instead of the via. try using 'lspci' to determine the sata chip in your computer. //Henrik -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nautilus doesn't work
I'm using GNOME-2.8.1 and I've a 30GB disk formated with reiserfs mounted at mnt/xyz. While I can delete and move files on this disk through the terminal, I canot do so using nautilus. When I try do delete a file on this disk with nautilus it just ignores me and does nothing ... Can anybody tell me how to change this ? antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Win key in KDE
I have already looked there: nobody use the Win key. But KMenu pops up nevertheless :-( === On Monday 24 January 2005 19:36, Neil Bothwick wrote: === On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 19:25:04 +0300, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Have not found the way to release Win key from the KDE Menu pop up (I'd like to use the key with StarDict). What have I missed? KDE Control Centre - Regional Accessibility - Keyboard Shortcuts Reassign the key for Panel/Popup launch menu. -- Neil Bothwick Echo Speak: Whale oil beef hooked -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] A peculiar DNS puzzle...
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 15:55:55 +0100, Mariusz Pkala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I emerged the bind-tools package and had a play with dig and nslookup. To further add to the intrigue of this bizarre problem - I was surprised to find that both dig and nslookup (like ping) correctly resolve addresses - whereas wget and lynx still stubbornly insist that sites not recently accessed by another LAN host - or from Gentoo with ping, dig or nslookup all resolve to 1.0.0.0! I would try to scan /etc/hosts - maybe there is something strange? Probably you already did that... :-) Something in /etc/networks ? Some PROXY settings are in effect? Wget and lynx are using some library that has troubles? I'm still suspicious that this is something to do with IPV6 - which would explain why Windows users have no problem (as none of the Windows DNS tools support IPV6) - though I can't explain why using emegre to rebuild with USE set to -ipv6 in make.conf makes no difference... I also wonder if the whole 1.0.0.0 problem may be explained by some poor choice I made when configuring my 2.6 kernel... even though I thought I'd been pretty restrained and only enabled what to me seemed to be the obvious options. If you can, try to scan the network traffic - ideally, do it from two boxes - the machine that has problems, and from an external one - to see what data goes physically on-the-wire (in case the kernel does something bad) Using 'tcpdump' or 'ethereal' you should be able to see the DNS queries and responses, and maybe that will give some enlightment? Strange and interesting. ;-) Good luck! Now maybe I'm off base here but can you take the router out of the system and then see how your gentoo box works. Might be able to tell if it is the router or something about the gentoo box to troubleshoot. Kirby Walborn -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Rsnapshot question.
Hi Gentoo-User, I'm looking to use rsnapshot to perform a FULL backup on a daily basis of a production server to another server off-site. My question is - Do I understand that rsnapshot can be used for this task ? And which directory's should I backup - I am not 100% sure which are must have's and which are not. Thanks in advance. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
Henrik Andersson wrote: Rick van Hattem wrote: Henrik Andersson wrote: Hi. I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. Section Monitor Identifier ViewSonic HorizSync 30-92 VertRefresh 50-85 Option DPMS EndSection Maybe you can try lowering the above values, although these settings should be correct there is a change that the monitor can't reach it. strange is that it works fine with 'radeon' but not with 'fglrx'. However I found a modeline that seemed to fix the problem. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list I'm not really suprised actually, I had the same problem with my laptop (but with the nvidia drivers) I couldn't get it working on 1024x768 or it would display something very weird (I guess it doesn't warn about incorrect modes) so after changing them a little it worked :) -- Rick van Hattem Rick.van.Hattem(at)Fawo.nl -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds and ebuild path not specified
I'm trying to create custom ebuilds for a few packages for which I'm always having to specify USE flags on the command line. (For example, I have ``+X +qt ...'' in make.conf, but I want to emerge Nethack with ``USE='-X -gnome -qt''', Emacs with ``USE='-X''', etc.) I've set PORTDIR_OVERLAY to /usr/local/portage in make.conf, created /usr/local/portage/games-roguelike/nethack and copied nethack-3.4.3-r1.ebuild over as nethack-3.4.3-custom.ebuild. I then edited the ebuild, removing the X-related bits, but when I run `emerge -s nethack' I get a message: ,[ # emerge -s nethack ] | !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'games-roguelike/nethack-3.4.3-custom' not specified: | !!!None ` I've googled for this message and checked the Gentoo forums, but the solutions generally mention setting PORTDIR_OVERLAY, which I've already done. Anyone have any other ideas? Also, when emerge looks for the ``latest'' revision to install, how does it do this? If I create a custom ebuild file will it always override the latest ebuild in /usr/portage? Thanks - -- Michael J. Barillier | ``When you have to shoot, shoot. blackwolf(at)shadizar.dyndns.org | Don't talk.'' Public key available on request. | -- Tuco Ramirez -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds and ebuild path not specified
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:35:54 -0600, Michael J. Barillier wrote: I'm trying to create custom ebuilds for a few packages for which I'm always having to specify USE flags on the command line. (For example, I have ``+X +qt ...'' in make.conf, but I want to emerge Nethack with ``USE='-X -gnome -qt''', Emacs with ``USE='-X''', etc.) I've set PORTDIR_OVERLAY to /usr/local/portage in make.conf, created /usr/local/portage/games-roguelike/nethack and copied nethack-3.4.3-r1.ebuild over as nethack-3.4.3-custom.ebuild. I then edited the ebuild, removing the X-related bits, You should put, for example games-roguelike/nethack -X -gnome -qt into /etc/portage/package.use -- Neil Bothwick Do evangelists do more than lay people? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
raptor, Is there a way to slow down specific I/O operation, f.e. a copy of file from one disk to another or from one partition to another. I dont bother if it takes a little bit longer, but dont want it to take alot of i/o bantdwith of other processes running currently in the system try: nice --adjust=10 cp in-file out-file -- Tres -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another option, The Cell
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005, Walter Dnes wrote: The Cell has been vapourware for a while. However, the STI group (Sony/Toshiba/IBM) have recently been granted a patent for it, so there is actual info available now. Nicholas Blachford has a very good writeup at http://www.blachford.info/computer/Cells/Cell0.html where he discusses it in detail. The only part I don't like is Unfortunately the patent reads like it was written by a robotic lawyer running Gentoo in text mode, you don't so much read it as decipher it.G I resemble that remark, composing this email in mutt in a real text console. I've read it and it's a lot of speculative guesses. Only time will tell if this thing really delivers. The PS2 was supposed to be *really* fast too... 1) Built-in DRM. The S in STI Group is Sony, who have a lot of media properties and intellectual property. If they try to turn it into a Fritz-chip by having the DRM code unblockable, it's going to hurt sales. Remember the Pentium III serial number fiasco? If sony has anything to do with this I bet they are gonna have some sort of drm hardware on board the PS3. Hopefully ibm takes this chip serious enough to not put such crap on the cell chip. very afraid of Cell in the long run. Linux must be kept... a) portable, and I consider this obvious but maybe it's not... b) lean and mean enough to run speedily on CPUs other than Cell. I hope that the Microsoft fanbois developing the GNOME and KDE desktops take this to heart. Hear, hear! One of the reasons I avoid these desktop environments is that the dependencies are ridiculous and some apps/daemons are *really* annoying (gconfd, nautilus). Best regards Peter K -- We Can Put an End to Word Attachments: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Where to specify languages ?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Je Dimano Januaro 23 2005 18:51, Philip Nilsson skribis: The standard is /etc/env.d/02locales. JFYI. I do not have that file, am I missing some package or I just have to create it ? Thanks. - -- Pupeno: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://www.pupeno.com Reading Science Fiction ? http://sfreaders.com.ar -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFB9QkSfW48a9PWGkURAluCAJwIeNqmeI9p21au6m3QG60osD/BVwCfVB9/ AbekwIJmd5WP1Q5F9yTzU5Y= =ooMn -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:38:10 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | OK. Perhaps someone could publish this standard exception prominently | on the gentoo site so as to avoid wasted time in threads like this | one. You mean like in the vulnerability treatment policy [1] and the social contract [2]? [1] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/vulnerability-policy.xml#doc_chap2 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpbFymTZP7jc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Rsnapshot question.
On Mon, 2005-01-24 at 17:13 +, Mal Herring wrote: Hi Gentoo-User, I'm looking to use rsnapshot to perform a FULL backup on a daily basis of a production server to another server off-site. My question is - Do I understand that rsnapshot can be used for this task ? And which directory's should I backup - I am not 100% sure which are must have's and which are not. Thanks in advance. I don't use rsnapshot, but I do use rsync in my own little scripts to do the same things. The important thing is the -a and -D flags. -a is a series of useful flags, as seen in the man page. And -D handles device files properly, so it really is safe to back up /dev . Having /dev backed up is nice in the case you need to restore, and learn the hard way not having /dev/console and /dev/null at the minimum at boot means you can't boot. You could exlude /proc and /sys , but really it doesn't make much of a difference. Be sure to include /boot , and note that you might have that as a seperate partition, and not automatically mounted at boot. So be sure it's mounted at backup time, then umount it afterwards. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:37:48 -0500 Keith P Hassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | You could argue that we shouldn't be involved in anything like this, | simply on principle. However, given the choice between giving our | users secure systems, or not knowing about security bugs *at all* | for anything up to several months after RedHat and Debian do, the | decision was made to keep certain bugs locked for a while if this | was necessary for us to see the bug information. | | IMO, you have to decide on what is considered more important for the | users and where gentoo's ideals lie. If engaging with vendorsec is | _worth_ the irritation, then recognize that there is going to be a | backlash from some members of the community. I believe that ideals | (or approximations thereof) are only attainable if you try to | implement them. Those members of the community can go and take it up with VendorSec. Most of our users would prefer to get security fixes immediately, rather than several months in the future, even if it means having to wait a while for the fix information to become public. This is the first time anyone's suggested that we leave people with insecure systems rather than agree to keep bugs restricted for a while in order to get access to vulnerability data sooner. Hopefully VendorSec will end up reducing their restriction periods. I'd suggest asking them to try to keep the waiting time down rather than trying to get rid of limited access bugs altogether, it might get you further. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpgdOrhYTiJW.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Where to specify languages ?
On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 13:12:15 +, Pupeno [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Je Vendredo Januaro 21 2005 20:58, Antoine skribis: Pupeno wrote: I'm currently defining the language to use in my gentoo installation by adding LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8 export LANG LC_ALL to /etc/profile, which afaik, it's bash only, is there a better place to specify it ? a better way to do it ? If you want anything but US English then you should also put it in make.conf - put the line LINGUAS=fb (where fb is the language you want, in your case en) in somewhere. You shouldn't need to though, as this is, bien evidemment, the default. Cheers Antoine ps. this will compile with the language specified if it exists. I don't think there would be many packages that didn't have English though! Hello, thanks for the reply. I'm already doing that. I have more than english in my LINGUAS variable and there's a package that has the english strings as optional: mplayer (or so I was told). Anyway, that's about compiling, and not running. Thank you. You mention running in your email? I read language to use in my gentoo installation. Sorry if I am not quick enough... Cheers Antoine -- G System, The Evolving GUniverse - http://www.g-system.at -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds and ebuild path not specified
| !!! aux_get(): ebuild path for 'games-roguelike/nethack-3.4.3-custom' not specified: | !!!None The problem's more than likely being caused by the '-custom' at the end of your ebuild name. Try changing it to nethack-custom-3.4.3.ebuild, instead, and see if that clears up your issue. ...you'll also (more than likely) have to move the folder in your PORTDIR_OVERLAY from games-roguelike/nethack to games-roguelike/nethack-custom... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ati-drivers and 1600x1200
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Henrik Andersson wrote: I'm trying to run xorg with the latest ati-drivers @ 1600x1200. When using the 'fglrx' module, all I get is a out of sync message from my monitor (viewsonic vp201s). Other screen resolutions can be applied but the monitor has 1600x1200 as optimal resolution (tft). I have the correct V/H-sync lines in xorg.conf. When I use the 'radeon' driver it works perfectly. I've also tried using the config generated by '/opt/ati/bin/fglrxconfig' with no success. What happens if you use the fglrx-optimised version of xorg.conf and delete the H/V-lines? This should let X autodetect the screens capabilities. Section Monitor Identifier ViewSonic HorizSync 30-92---Remove these VertRefresh 50-85---two lines. Option DPMS EndSection Is the monitor connected via dvi or vga (d-sub)? Mvh Peter K -- We Can Put an End to Word Attachments: http://www.fsf.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: AMD64 vs P4 w/HT
Bob Sanders wrote: There is work going on for the next release of Gentoo on x86_64 in getting the multilib environment working properly. But no, no links on Oracle at the moment. And given everything I've seen on Oracle both when I was actively involved - V3 on a 36-bit Dec KI10, and as a user now, I'd recommend staying away from Oracle if at all possible. Any software that requires a set of specific libraries, even on Red Hat Enterprise, has some serious issues with working at all. Actually general 32bit jails sounded interesting enough on their own since this will likely be a problem for legacy software for the next 1-3 years. Yeah most OSS stuff won't have any issues, but slow moving enterprise oh you need to pay $5k for the 64 bit version software will probably be around till the next upgrade cycle. In this case it's one of the 50 largest Oracle installtions in the country... or was when I worked there. I don't think they can avoid Oracle at this point, though moving to amd64/Linux/10g would significantly cut their hardware costs. But if you want to keep track of what's going on with 64-bit and 32-bit multiple library environments, subscribe to - gentoo-amd64. will do. Fiber HBA card? Like Qlogic? It's in the kernel. And any decent FC card has been 64-bit complaint for ages. The only issues I've seen are some Wireless cards and useless winmodems. Real hardware has 64-bit drivers. It's an EMC fiber hba... and of course has vendor supplied drivers that aren't in the kernel at large and aren't 64bit or so they have said. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 10:37:48 -0500 Keith P Hassen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| You could argue that we shouldn't be involved in anything like this,
| simply on principle. However, given the choice between giving our
| users secure systems, or not knowing about security bugs *at all*
| for anything up to several months after RedHat and Debian do, the
| decision was made to keep certain bugs locked for a while if this
| was necessary for us to see the bug information.
|
| IMO, you have to decide on what is considered more important for the
| users and where gentoo's ideals lie. If engaging with vendorsec is
| _worth_ the irritation, then recognize that there is going to be a
| backlash from some members of the community. I believe that ideals
| (or approximations thereof) are only attainable if you try to
| implement them.
Those members of the community can go and take it up with VendorSec.
Most of our users would prefer to get security fixes immediately, rather
than several months in the future, even if it means having to wait a
while for the fix information to become public. This is the first time
anyone's suggested that we leave people with insecure systems rather
than agree to keep bugs restricted for a while in order to get access to
vulnerability data sooner.
The problem is that vendorsec is a political entity first and a security
entity second. Signing up with vendorsec is a tacit endorsement of
their policies; the short-sighted response is that this makes security
fixes more timely for your product, but there is a cost to not having an
open security-reporting policy. There is definitely a balance to be
achieved here, but my point is that if you fundamentally disagree with
vendorsec's policy about disclosure, then alternatives should be
considered--even if that means a cost to the _short-term_ capacity of
Gentoo to provide security updates.
This might seem ridiculous to you, but I think that the spirit of the
open-source community is what is at stake in this regard.
Hopefully VendorSec will end up reducing their restriction periods. I'd
suggest asking them to try to keep the waiting time down rather than
trying to get rid of limited access bugs altogether, it might get you
further.
Get me further? It's really Gentoo's decision, not mine; I am just
commenting. Linus made relevant remarks on this in another newsgroup:
And similarly, I think truly open disclosure is another fundamental
-treatment-, in that it doesn't _allow_ the mentality that vendor-sec
tends to instill in people. Well, maybe not 'treatment' per se: it's
more like admitting you have a problem. ...It's like alcoholism.
Admitting you have a problem is the first step. vendor-sec is the
band-aid that allows you to try to ignore the problem ('I can handle it
- I could stop any day').
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Re: [gentoo-user] Custom ebuilds and ebuild path not specified
nb == Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to create custom ebuilds for a few packages for which I'm always having to specify USE flags on the command line. (For example, I have ``+X +qt ...'' in make.conf, but I want to emerge Nethack with ``USE='-X -gnome -qt''', Emacs with ``USE='-X''', etc.) I've set PORTDIR_OVERLAY to /usr/local/portage in make.conf, created /usr/local/portage/games-roguelike/nethack and copied nethack-3.4.3-r1.ebuild over as nethack-3.4.3-custom.ebuild. I then edited the ebuild, removing the X-related bits, nb You should put, for example nb games-roguelike/nethack -X -gnome -qt nb into /etc/portage/package.use I didn't realize that could be done, but now that I've actually *read* the relevant parts of the Gentoo documentation I see that it'd be the easier solution. Amazing what a little reading will accomplish ... *groan* :) Thanks, Neil! -- Michael J. Barillier | ``When you have to shoot, shoot. blackwolf(at)shadizar.dyndns.org | Don't talk.'' Public key available on request. | -- Tuco Ramirez -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 12:16:32 -0500 Keith P Hassen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | The problem is that vendorsec is a political entity first and a | security entity second. Signing up with vendorsec is a tacit | endorsement of their policies; the short-sighted response is that | this makes security fixes more timely for your product, but there is | a cost to not having an | open security-reporting policy. There is definitely a balance to be | achieved here, but my point is that if you fundamentally disagree with | vendorsec's policy about disclosure, then alternatives should be | considered--even if that means a cost to the _short-term_ capacity of | Gentoo to provide security updates. | | This might seem ridiculous to you, but I think that the spirit of the | open-source community is what is at stake in this regard. Sure. We could also rip out all non-Free software from the tree if we wanted to. But then, if Debian aren't being anal about VendorSec then we're in no position to do so either. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpMlop90jW3f.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] A peculiar DNS puzzle...
On Monday 24 January 2005 16:55, Mariusz Pkala wrote: I emerged the bind-tools package and had a play with dig and nslookup. To further add to the intrigue of this bizarre problem - I was surprised to find that both dig and nslookup (like ping) correctly resolve addresses - whereas wget and lynx still stubbornly insist that sites not recently accessed by another LAN host - or from Gentoo with ping, dig or nslookup all resolve to 1.0.0.0! I would try to scan /etc/hosts - maybe there is something strange? That would be consistent. So I'd say: No. Probably you already did that... :-) Something in /etc/networks ? Same here. Some PROXY settings are in effect? Proxy settings in wget and linx don't effect DNS lookups. Wget and lynx are using some library that has troubles? Could be but not the resolver library because that is the same for all apps. I'm still suspicious that this is something to do with IPV6 - which would explain why Windows users have no problem (as none of the Windows DNS tools support IPV6) - though I can't explain why using emegre to rebuild with USE set to -ipv6 in make.conf makes no difference... I also wonder if the whole 1.0.0.0 problem may be explained by some poor choice I made when configuring my 2.6 kernel... even though I thought I'd been pretty restrained and only enabled what to me seemed to be the obvious options. If you can, try to scan the network traffic - ideally, do it from two boxes - the machine that has problems, and from an external one - to see what data goes physically on-the-wire (in case the kernel does something bad) Using 'tcpdump' or 'ethereal' you should be able to see the DNS queries and responses, and maybe that will give some enlightment? This is, indeed, good advice. Filter on DNS traffic and compare queries from wget to those of working applications. Same for for replies. Uwe -- Alternative phrasing of the First Law of Thermodynamics: If you eat it, and you don't burn it off, you'll sit on it. http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
I'd get rid of the section below Your X server might be trying to load the VGA driver rather than the fglrx one. Tony Boom wrote: Section Device Identifier Standard VGA VendorName Unknown BoardName Unknown # The chipset line is optional in most cases. It can be used to override # the driver's chipset detection, and should not normally be specified. #Chipset generic # The Driver line must be present. When using run-time loadable driver # modules, this line instructs the server to load the specified driver # module. Even when not using loadable driver modules, this line # indicates which driver should interpret the information in this section. Driver vga # The BusID line is used to specify which of possibly multiple devices # this section is intended for. When this line isn't present, a device # section can only match up with the primary video device. For PCI # devices a line like the following could be used. This line should not # normally be included unless there is more than one video device # installed. #BusID PCI:0:10:0 #VideoRam256 #Clocks 25.2 28.3 EndSection -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Another option, The Cell
Walter Dnes wrote: I repeat, 1 Cell = 5 dual core Opterons. 4 Cells on a PS3 will walk all over X86-based CPUs, or anything this side of an IBM z-series the thing about the cell, is that it will have something similar to a POWER5 as the general purpose CPU, but it will have 8 Attached Processor Units (APUs). The APU's are vector processors - like a cray. This doesn't mean they are automatically superfast. They are superfast for specific operations, and those operations must be designed to take advantage of the vector processor. In a way, it's like designing an application for a multi-processor machine. If you didn't design it with multi-processors in mind, then simply adding more processors won't speed up the application. A good intro to this would be here: http://www.nus.edu.sg/Major/SVU/techinfo/vector_processing.html Just because the author says 5 opterons = 1 cell, doesn't mean that you'll be able to load up Gentoo on your PS3, and install a stage1 in under an hour. It does mean that a properly designed SETI client would be able to chew through some data sets in the fraction of the time of the opterons. However, look for some new advances in gcc because of this. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Configuring 2.6 kernels
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 22:06:13 -0500 (EST), A. Khattri wrote:
It should. Sounds like something is wrong with the file. I don't
remember any { in .config.
No { in any of my kernel configs:
# grep { /boot/config-2.6.*
Do you get the same error when you run make menuconfig with no .config
file? It sounds more like the error relates to the makefile than .config.
Yes, it doesn't matter if I have a config file or not.
It certainly looks like a Makefile problem as speculated earlier.
The weird thing is Im not doing anything unusual - just the standard
emerge of gentoo-dev-sources...
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[gentoo-user] Is it advised to wait for 2005.0 for a first installation?
Hi I've been following this list for a while and been downloading some documentation trying to prepare myself for my very first Gentoo installation. From what I have understood by reading the couple of last gwn:s from last year the 2005.0 release will mean some changes to basic things like the default kernel being 2.6. I've also seen on this list that upgrades of glibc and, in some cases, kernel 2.6 have caused problems. So, now I'm wondering whether it is adviceable to wait for the 2005.0 release with all its updates or whether I can just as well go along with 2004.3 and get the updates through Portage? My ideas about my installation are the following: - Use a stage 1 just because it is interesting to do all the compilation/installation steps. - Use 2.6 because it seems stable enough to be used. - Stay on the stable branch (for starters at least). In December 2004 I picked up (from the Gentoo-web) that 2005.0 might be released in January 2005. Is there any more resent word on when 2005.0 will be available? /Jörgen -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.2 - Release Date: 2005-01-21 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] nVidia GeForce4 MX 4000 - X doesn't work
Hi all, I just got a GeForce4 MX 4000 and I'm having trouble getting it working with Xorg 6.8.0-r4. Ideally I'd like to have it only connected to my TV, and not have a monitor or keyboard. When I start X using the 'nvidia' driver (nvidia-glx 1.0.6629-r1) my screen initialises correctly, and I get a mouse pointer appearing as well. I see a white line in the top left corner of the screen, going right about 200px. If I move the mouse up towards the line the mouse turns into resize / move pointers depending on where it is. All programs seem to load, I get no errors in .gnomerc-errors, and all processes seem to be running. If I connect using VNC (either the vnc extension or x0vncserver) I see exactly the same as on the screen. If I change the driver from 'nvidia' to 'vesa' everything works fine, except I obviously can't configure TV and it's slow. lspci -v output for my card: :01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x] (rev c1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) Flags: bus master, 66Mhz, medium devsel, latency 248, IRQ 201 Memory at dc00 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) Memory at d000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M] Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2 Capabilities: [44] AGP version 3.0 Every time I start X using the nvidia driver the kernel says: agpgart: Found an AGP 2.0 compliant device at :00:00.0. agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 4x mode agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 4x mode Of course, I've merged and loaded nvidia-kernel-1.0.6629-r1, and it seems to load fine. My xorg.conf and Xorg.0.log (-logverbose 5) are posted online: http://www.bootc.net/xorg/ I hope someone has an idea or two! Many thanks, Chris -- Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bootc.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
On Monday 24 January 2005 19:51, Tres Melton wrote: raptor, Is there a way to slow down specific I/O operation, f.e. a copy of file from one disk to another or from one partition to another. I dont bother if it takes a little bit longer, but dont want it to take alot of i/o bantdwith of other processes running currently in the system try: nice --adjust=10 cp in-file out-file nice is about CPU usage. I don't think there is a way to throttle I/O for a speciffic process from one disk/partition to another w/o doing it for all processes. Well, I never attempted such a thing and therefore never investigated it. But from my understanding of how it works I can't see a way. Of course, you could write your own versions of cp and such that understand a throttle option, but it really had to be done at application level. What are those other processes that need all the i/O? That might give us an idea how to deal with it. Uwe -- Alternative phrasing of the First Law of Thermodynamics: If you eat it, and you don't burn it off, you'll sit on it. http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Monday 24 January 2005 19:57, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Those members of the community can go and take it up with VendorSec. Most of our users would prefer to get security fixes immediately, rather than several months in the future, even if it means having to wait a while for the fix information to become public. This is the first time anyone's suggested that we leave people with insecure systems rather than agree to keep bugs restricted for a while in order to get access to vulnerability data sooner. Right. Hopefully VendorSec will end up reducing their restriction periods. I'd suggest asking them to try to keep the waiting time down rather than trying to get rid of limited access bugs altogether, it might get you further. Let's all do that. Uwe -- Alternative phrasing of the First Law of Thermodynamics: If you eat it, and you don't burn it off, you'll sit on it. http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Monday 24 January 2005 19:16, Keith P Hassen wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Hopefully VendorSec will end up reducing their restriction periods. I'd suggest asking them to try to keep the waiting time down rather than trying to get rid of limited access bugs altogether, it might get you further. Get me further? It's really Gentoo's decision, not mine; I am just commenting. Political entities are senitive to pressure. So, yes, bombarding them with requests *might* get you further. No guarantees, of course. This is the real world. Uwe -- Alternative phrasing of the First Law of Thermodynamics: If you eat it, and you don't burn it off, you'll sit on it. http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Secret bugs?
On Monday 24 January 2005 19:53, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 09:38:10 -0700 Collins Richey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | OK. Perhaps someone could publish this standard exception prominently | on the gentoo site so as to avoid wasted time in threads like this | one. You mean like in the vulnerability treatment policy [1] and the social contract [2]? [1] http://www.gentoo.org/security/en/vulnerability-policy.xml#doc_chap2 [2] http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/contract.xml :-) Alright, this intrigued me from day 1 but I always delayed asking it. Ciaran, how is that name of yours pronounced? ;-) Uwe -- Alternative phrasing of the First Law of Thermodynamics: If you eat it, and you don't burn it off, you'll sit on it. http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: AMD64 vs P4 w/HT
In this case it's one of the 50 largest Oracle installtions in the country... or was when I worked there. I don't think they can avoid Oracle at this point, though moving to amd64/Linux/10g would significantly cut their hardware costs. I wonder if Oracle's customers ever notice that Oricle itself doesn't run it's business on it's latest software - 11i (iirc), rather back on 9 something? But it's sure happy to let it's customers pay for the privledge for testing the software. It's an EMC fiber hba... and of course has vendor supplied drivers that aren't in the kernel at large and aren't 64bit or so they have said. I wonder if it's the old i960 based raid card? Probably best to chuck it and replace it with something more recent. But then, there's some clause in a contract the prevents that or the driver has a special proprietary mode that would require removing all the data, flashing the firmware in the disk array to something more current, then reloading all the data. I really loathe Enterprise solutions... Bob - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
On 17:26 Mon 24 Jan , [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, Is there a way to slow down specific I/O operation, f.e. a copy of file from one disk to another or from one partition to another. I dont bother if it takes a little bit longer, but dont want it to take alot of i/o bantdwith of other processes running currently in the system I think you want nice and renice. They can give different priority levels to certain processes. For example if your file copy and another process wanted to do something at the same time, the other process would be given the chance first. Bill -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Is it advised to wait for 2005.0 for a first installation?
So, now I'm wondering whether it is adviceable to wait for the 2005.0 release with all its updates or whether I can just as well go along with 2004.3 and get the updates through Portage? Most of the info that you see fly across this list is typically related to a) folks not RTFMs (i.e. glibc problems) or b) folks trying to get 'esoteric' hardware functioning (i.e. cutting edge or significantly old stuff). I'd encourage you not to wait. The only difference between the 2004.3 and 2005.0 cd's (someone please correct me if I over-simplify) is that a later version of the cd typically will result in less network traffic (newer cd's will have newer information, less to fetch for a --sync et al.). Regardless of the CD version that you use, the end result from an emerge --sync / emerge --update --deep world will be the exact same system; the starting base doesn't matter. As for the 2.6 thing, the 2004.3 cd boots using 2.6 (not 2.4 like previous versions) so you'll know right up front that a 2.6 kernel will work. The scripts and tools in gentoo (i.e. genkernel et al) will help you get your kernel up and running. Most importantly, just follow the steps as outlined in the gentoo handbook and you'll do fine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is it advised to wait for 2005.0 for a first installation?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:20:01 +0100 Jörgen Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | In December 2004 I picked up (from the Gentoo-web) that 2005.0 might | be released in January 2005. Is there any more resent word on when | 2005.0 will be available? The 2005.0 target release date isn't public, and won't be made public until just before we actually flip the bits on the mirrors. That way, if there're any changes needed, we won't be pressurised into meeting arbitrary deadlines. Having said that, http://releng.gentoo.org/ lists a provisional target release time which may or may not correspond to the actual release date. -- Ciaran McCreesh : Gentoo Developer (Vim, Fluxbox, shell tools) Mail: ciaranm at gentoo.org Web : http://dev.gentoo.org/~ciaranm pgpJBp9nRsp3a.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: AMD64 vs P4 w/HT
Hi there, On 24 Jan 2005, at 19:25, Bob Sanders wrote: In this case it's one of the 50 largest Oracle installtions in the country... or was when I worked there. I don't think they can avoid Oracle at this point, though moving to amd64/Linux/10g would significantly cut their hardware costs. I wonder if Oracle's customers ever notice that Oricle itself doesn't run it's business on it's latest software - 11i (iirc), rather back on 9 something? But it's sure happy to let it's customers pay for the privledge for testing the software. Ah, this is where the marketing folk lag behind a little! I work for Oracle, in Apps IT, and I can say that our GSI production environment is in fact running on Database 10g and Applications 11i. This is, admittedly, something that only happened quite recently, but it's a long shot away from 9i. Regards, Chris -- Chris Boot [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.bootc.net/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Is it advised to wait for 2005.0 for a first installation?
When 2005.0 comes out, there will be a 2005.1 in the works A wait strategy ensures you never install... On Mon, 24 Jan 2005, Dave Nebinger wrote: So, now I'm wondering whether it is adviceable to wait for the 2005.0 release with all its updates or whether I can just as well go along with 2004.3 and get the updates through Portage? Most of the info that you see fly across this list is typically related to a) folks not RTFMs (i.e. glibc problems) or b) folks trying to get 'esoteric' hardware functioning (i.e. cutting edge or significantly old stuff). I'd encourage you not to wait. The only difference between the 2004.3 and 2005.0 cd's (someone please correct me if I over-simplify) is that a later version of the cd typically will result in less network traffic (newer cd's will have newer information, less to fetch for a --sync et al.). Regardless of the CD version that you use, the end result from an emerge --sync / emerge --update --deep world will be the exact same system; the starting base doesn't matter. As for the 2.6 thing, the 2004.3 cd boots using 2.6 (not 2.4 like previous versions) so you'll know right up front that a 2.6 kernel will work. The scripts and tools in gentoo (i.e. genkernel et al) will help you get your kernel up and running. Most importantly, just follow the steps as outlined in the gentoo handbook and you'll do fine. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Dennis Allison * Computer Systems Laboratory * Gates 227 * Stanford University * Stanford CA 94305 * (650) 723-9213 * (650) 723-0033 fax * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Is it advised to wait for 2005.0 for a first installation?
Jörgen Andersson wrote: I've been following this list for a while and been downloading some documentation trying to prepare myself for my very first Gentoo installation. From what I have understood by reading the couple of last gwn:s from last year the 2005.0 release will mean some changes to basic things like the default kernel being 2.6. I've also seen on this list that upgrades of glibc and, in some cases, kernel 2.6 have caused problems. So, now I'm wondering whether it is adviceable to wait for the 2005.0 release with all its updates or whether I can just as well go along with 2004.3 and get the updates through Portage? You can go ahead if you like, or if you don't mind waiting, you will save yourself some work when 2005.0 comes around as you won't have to migrate. Infact you could do an installation now on 2.6/udev and save yourself most of the later hassle, except our docs aren't too good on this style of installation. When 2005.0 comes around we will have full migration documents and the default installation will make installing 2.6/udev painless. In December 2004 I picked up (from the Gentoo-web) that 2005.0 might be released in January 2005. Is there any more resent word on when 2005.0 will be available? If all goes to plan it will be released sometime in the first half of February. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
Hello Billy, Monday, January 24, 2005, 6:40:14 PM, you wrote: BH I'd get rid of the section below BH Your X server might be trying to load the VGA driver rather than the BH fglrx one. Didn't work either. -- Tony. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Registered Linux user #316959 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7037908 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] nautilus doesn't work
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm using GNOME-2.8.1 and I've a 30GB disk formated with reiserfs mounted at mnt/xyz. While I can delete and move files on this disk through the terminal, I canot do so using nautilus. When I try do delete a file on this disk with nautilus it just ignores me and does nothing ... Can anybody tell me how to change this ? antonio Mabe i should add that nautilus works fine on my root partition - and that the problem I'm talking off occured one or two weeks ago, seemingly without any connection. antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Java API or protocol specification for Heimdal / Kerberos admin
Hi there, I'm searching for a Java API, or at least some kind of protocol specification so I can write my own, to manage a (Heimdal) Kerberos server. I would like to be able to create, update and delete principals, including their passwords, programatically, so I'm able to create an administration tool. Thanks in advance, best regards Jose -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Disabling bootup info
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_fbsplash#Installing_fbsplash_and_splashutils nice boot up Sevak Avakians wrote: LOL! On Fri, 2005-01-21 at 11:03, Norbert Kamenicky wrote: /Sevak Avakians wrote: Anyone know how to disable the text output in the bootup and startup portions? I'd like to replace it with a nice graphic if possible. switch monitor on 2 minutes after PC :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list / -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
Hi Tony, Didn't work either. Maybe you should eBay that Ati and pick up an Nvidia card. :) Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
Maybe you should eBay that Ati and pick up an Nvidia card. :) That's what I did with my 9800XT and now I have a V/GT 256 card which is twice the size, louder and requires a 500W power supply for the same amount of theoretical performance (as the two perform the same in Windows). Chris -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT: AMD64 vs P4 w/HT
Hi Chris, Ah, this is where the marketing folk lag behind a little! I work for Oracle, in Apps IT, and I can say that our GSI production environment is in fact running on Database 10g and Applications 11i. This is, admittedly, something that only happened quite recently, but it's a long shot away from 9i. That's good to know. Didn't you start the move to Linux on 8 or 9? Or have you been running 10g/11i all along? fwiw - we've been running 11i for a few years now. Bob -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] nautilus doesn't work
this is a work around and not the answer but many people arent happy with nautilus some alternatives are konqueror or gentoo I myself prefer gentoo ( not the linux distro, the file browser ) Antonio Coralles wrote: I'm using GNOME-2.8.1 and I've a 30GB disk formated with reiserfs mounted at mnt/xyz. While I can delete and move files on this disk through the terminal, I canot do so using nautilus. When I try do delete a file on this disk with nautilus it just ignores me and does nothing ... Can anybody tell me how to change this ? antonio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
Hello Bob, Monday, January 24, 2005, 7:49:30 PM, you wrote: BS Maybe you should eBay that Ati and pick up an Nvidia BS card. :) I've been thinking the same. However I have a perfectly good Nvidia sitting here in the very box the Radeon came out of a few weeks ago. The NVidia wouldn't run Half life or Medal of Honour in XP though, that's why I bought the ATI. -- Tony. The Bat! 3.0.2.10 Registered Linux user #316959 PGP Key http://www.theboomclan.com/pgp.txt http://www.1and1.co.uk/?k_id=7037908 smime.p7s Description: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Any way to kill frozen X/KDE?
Peng wrote: On 01/23/05 17:48, Douglas James Dunn wrote: um you go into X and load xterm and type glxgears XD Sorry. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list ctrl+alt+backspace -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:46:08 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote: I don't think there is a way to throttle I/O for a speciffic process from one disk/partition to another w/o doing it for all processes. As someone has already suggested, use rsync. See the man page for the --bwlimit option. -- Neil Bothwick Bang on the LEFT side of your computer to restart Windows -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] new ati-drivers
Hi Tony, The NVidia wouldn't run Half life or Medal of Honour in XP though, that's why I bought the ATI. Makes sense. I hate to offer this next suggestion as it's a plain shot in the dark, but maybe try - emerge -eat ati-drivers-extra Then reboot when all is done. Bob -- - -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] slowdown copy operation ? how ?
Uwe Thiem wrote: try: nice --adjust=10 cp in-file out-file nice is about CPU usage. On Con Kolivas' mailing list there was talk with Jens (the cfq maintainer) about cfq-ts (CFQ with time slices). He had write priority support, but later took it out - however read support is still in and very useful. Con later included the work in a ckdev (ck development). I haven't used it, but there are some benchmarks that suggest a nice'd copy command has restricted CPU *and* IO until the normal CPU and IO jobs are done. Latest 2.6.11-rc1-ck2 with cfq-ts-20 (and fixes) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.ck/2184 latest cfq-ts-21 (not fully tested) http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.kernel.ck/2219 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
